That'll be my bumper sticker (25 October 2024)

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus Lush Nights podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
That'd be.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Seven past eight eight oh seven. Good evening and welcome.
I will bring you updates of the cricket when that happens.
That I imagine I'll be going for a break soon
because India will be all out. Keep you updated with that.
Not ball by ball, but certain certainly not over by over,
but session but session, session by session. That's my plan
for you tonight. I hope it's good where you are

(00:33):
in New Zealand. Welcome now one four two four nine,
Washington on four of seventeen bulls. Bum ra boomra on
zero of zero bulls too, So I'll keep you updated
with that. Now. The path of a talk host can

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have twists and turns, and it is nothing if not
unpredictable with as far as what happens between eight and twelve. However,
there is one beast that's more unpredictable than most, or
there's one beast that's less predictable than most, and that
is the friday before a long weekend. Who knows what

(01:21):
people are doing. I think people are in party mode,
or people are in out and about mode, or people
are and go to the batch and mow the lawns mode.
So I'll try and serve all masters and make it
interesting tonight. I'm not entirely sure which way to go.
G Washington got a six. I shouldn't have said that

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they'll be in the bin shortly, he seems for every good.
So I will try and serve the masters, whatever masters
we have. If you are on a long journey, text
me where you're going and how far on that juney
are You might be going away for the long win.
Just text me, because then I think thout the next furs.
We can keep an eye on where you are that
could be of interest to me. We ourselves aren't going away,

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but we can follow you. So if you're on a
long journey, text me to where you are headed and
how far through you are. Anything interesting, like how is
the driving and how is the traffic. That's one thing
we can do. If you've got breaking news or see
something interesting with something as you usually want to talk about.
Plenty of chance, plenty of time tonight. I'm here till
twelve to come through with that. Also, Oh eight hundred

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eighty ten eighty and nine two nine two. By the way,
the weather down south is supposed to be not good. However,
way way way down the bottom of the weather has
been very very good, but windy, incredibly windy. But it's
sunny and carless. But I think tomorrow the next day

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are poor and snow is forecast. Snow is forecast for
much of the South Island. So if you're a trucky
and you're a weather update or just Johnny the driver
got a weather update, bring that through to us. Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine to nine to
text here till twelve, looking forward to what you've got
to say, and I will bring you everything you need

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to know tonight between now and twelve. So yeah, but
if you've got stuff, and if your updates of where
you are driving, you might have the family, you might
be going to the batch, to mother lawns, you might
be going to what's those things, what do they call them?
A booker, batch and Airbnb. I think the only main
particular providers of that sort of thing. Let us know

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where we are going. So if you're on a roadie,
let us know, and we can do the roady where
it just text us from time to time every hour
or something. Let us know where you are. It's ten
past eight. It's what they call NCT non curated talk.
I'm here till twelve entry level talkback topic for you
until you get our hair head around the weather and

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traffic and the long weekend and the mood of the nation.
It is chip sandwich day. I don't know that's important
for you. Evidence shows a potato chip sandwiches have been
around in the United States since the nineteen fifties. I
would imagine this is just my prediction. I would imagine

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the chip sandwich quickly followed the advent of sliced bread.
I would imagine before sliced bread, the chip sandwich wasn't
such a thing because your bread slice of bread wouldn't
be as regular or as easy to fold. And I'm
reading on the page now about chip sandwiches. In twenty fifteen,

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two different people went so far as to open establishment
strictly dedicated to serving chip sandwiches in Belfast and West Yorkshire.
Both of those shops claimed to have been the first
crisp sandwich shop in the world. Then, in twenty twenty one,
subway sandwich shops in the UK started offering walker chips
as a topping for their sandwiches. Don't get me started

(05:01):
after my bad experience at Moscow when I brought the
bread roll in the bag of chips that was thirty
dollars eighty. I like a chip sandwich as much as
anyone to treat it, probably have once a month, although
the other day the kids asked for what we call
a chip fold over, and they wanted marmite on these.
I thought I'd prefer my without the marmite, but anyway,
I'm subtle. Dave Marcus, welcome a road update from you.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
Good evening, Hey, good evening, mate. Yep yep. Just traveling
on from top for up to Hamilton, but I decided
to take the back road. And I just want to
give a shout out here because in the middle of
movie was a hearty dumpling container, just right in the middle,

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just out towards end up poor you be road just
before my again or wait.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
I couldn't believe it, a gift, like a gift from
the gods.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
I stopped there for my dinner and coming up through
Chelm too now and heading through Hamilton. I'll tell you what,
who will the middle of the country in the country
won Who just won the sheep.

Speaker 3 (06:16):
So you're talking are you talking state? Are you talking?
You're not talking State Highway thirty two. You're talking off
State Highway thirty going through the because man a keino
stood on the side road, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (06:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, it was just like uh sort
of they call it the Wister dexis long one Lake Topaul.
So if you to do the Great Lake Cycle Challenge,
I'm guessing you're coming off for Hippie. He's intersection there
and there's a Hearty Dumpling shop.

Speaker 6 (06:49):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
They so I had to do a shadow because that's
my dinner.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
And there's a real few. Are you in a track
or a car?

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (06:59):
Okay, okay, that's brilliant. Okay, we'll see now they seem
to be busy. They were good people.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
Yeah yeah it was actually in fact, there are that
many carso pulling in. This will have been about wolves
just after seven and after turn people down, they're closing
the shop.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (07:20):
Yeah, coming, I'm.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Coming up the west side of Lake Topur and that
State Higway thirty two. Then you come to a place
called Faka Maru and you can turn left to mona
quin Or.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
Yeah, this is just before they turn off. There's a
there's a road if you're on the western access on
there thirty two. They're Intersex Worth Poi Hippie Road. Okay, wow,
that's so good. So just before Fukamda is about maybe
fifteen to twenty minutes before Artie Dumplings.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Oh that's brilliant. Okay, I appreciate you coming through that, Dave.
That's made my night. That's what we want to know.
The pick of the food trucks hardy dum and I
like the way they're called hearty dumplings because the way
he said hearty. Only Dave could say hearty hearty dumplings.
But any way, I can know exactly because there's one
road that they say that. I can't see where their

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road is on the map because they're all called highways.
But he's got the he's got a more localized name
for that road. But cheapest creepers. I want to be there.
And New Zealand sorry, India are all out for one
five six India Trail by one oh three. I presume
we put India into I presume we bet. I don't

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think we're going to go for the outright or anything
like that. I don't think he's going to do anything
tricky with that one. So there we go. We're talking
food trucks and we are talking chip sandwiches, because there's
chip sandwich day to day. I don't know think about
chips these days. Is it used just to be chips,
used to be playing chips or chicken flavor or salt

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and vinegar. Now there's so much more complicated. I don't
there there's thick one ones, there's kettle ones, There's all
sorts of ones. I don't know what would be the
ones best ones for chip buddy, you might want to
mention that as well. Tonight and your favorite road stops
after the hearty Dumplings. If anyone can text me exactly
where it is, I'd like to send people there. I'd

(09:23):
like to go there myself. Actually, well that it won't
be tonight. O wait one hundred and eighty Teddy at
nine two nine to de text There'll be a break now.
I would imagine the cricket Marcus. We are on our
way to Albany, Western Australia, have come from the Margaret
River region. By the way, we are eating Smith's crisps
as we drive Diana Margaret River gorgeous.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Hi.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Marcus currently had an airbnb a patterns Rock and Golden Bay.
The weather is terrible, heavy rain and windy, Mike, it's
a trouble with long weekends. You pay your money and
you take your chance. Although I imagine for some people
the great long weekends they're sort of insie batch that
they've borrowed or rented or convinced the person, and it

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rains and rains and rains. Then you find that cupboard. Now,
first you find the old record player with the cabinet
full of LPs. That's fun. Then you find the board games.
You have the best weekend of your life, playing risk,

(10:31):
listening to Solid Gold Hits Volume seven. We've all been there.
It's always good. Get in touch. I'm looking for a
map of the Hearty Dumpling. Did you work out where
that was?

Speaker 6 (10:41):
Dan?

Speaker 3 (10:42):
I tried, We all tried, but he gave that road
a different name. That was where I where. I couldn't
work out where it was. But it doesn't look like
you go through. It doesn't like it looks like you're
probably Oh, no, I would have gone that way because
he mentioned he would have gone that way. Because he
didn't mention he went through Tiawamu too, So you must

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have gone up that way. Can't infect work out exactly
where it is. But if you do not, let us know.
If you're going on long trips, he uns know where
the you arehead of. There's something else you want to
talk about to. I'm up for everything. That long weekend.
You how it does. You might be an uberist. Let
me know how it's going. Where you are off the
big cities, if they're dead as a doornail or flat tech,
that's what I want to know about as well. So

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eight hundred and eighty taddy and nine text. Oh here
we go, Hearty Dumplings, just just north of Maro Tidy
School State Highway thirty two. Oh yeah, I thought it
might have been that on the old thirty two. Oh
there's the old State Highway thirty two. What the old

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finances are of a.

Speaker 5 (11:55):
Of a.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Dumpling caravan in the middle of nowhere? I suppose all
about putting on Facebook where you're going to be and
getting the locals in volved. Oh we're way down there,
I see where we are. Okay, okay, okay, a t
hoid ode. There we go. That's where that is brilliant

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Stateharwa thirty two. Oh yeah, so it's sort of halfway
between we'd leave the site or the leave go past
Lake topor towards Fuckamado.

Speaker 8 (12:29):
Brilliant.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
That's it. We've got that sort of Okay, happy with that. Thanks.
Dave nineteen passed eight eight hundred eights. Hey, we've got
the cricket, A lot of sport on this weekend too.
We've got Rugby League, We've got the baseball tomorrow. I
think that starts about half past twelve. That is the
LA Dodgers versus the Yankees. It's going to be exciting also,
So get in touch. My name is Marcus. Welcome, oh

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eight hundred and eighty to Teddy and nineteen nine TwixT
ups ups ups eleven days to the US election. I
can tell you that this was the this and this
day in nineteen seventy one was the last scheduled ended
our steam train trip and New z and I can
tell you where it was from. It was from christ

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Church to Dunedin, the Overnight Express, which was the end
of steam trains for one hundred and eight years. They
called it the dieselization. There are steam trains, but they
belong to rail heritage groups. That's what you need to know.

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I get in touch. One names Marcus twenty past eight
oh eight hundred and eighty eighty and nine. Chip sandwich Day,
Any suggestions, any local variations, anything you've tried Nigella. She
puts butter, not mayo, on two pieces of bread, filled
it with crisps. She uses salt and vinegar flavored Walkers crisp,

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which is the same as Lays in the United States.
I guess you're doing it locally. You use Bluebird Is
that right? And one of those new she Shei ones
I suspected all made by the same company. There will
be variations for chip sandwiches. I don't know what those
variations are.

Speaker 9 (14:15):
Well.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
I think in the UK they call them crisps, Veggi marmite,
that's optional. I don't know what the other variations would be.
I'm sure we wouldn't mind. Someone says tomato sauce, vinegar
mayonnaise or brown sauce like HP oh wait one hundred
and eighty nineteen nine ticks you want to come through

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Marcus sort, keep those texts, keep those emails coming. Just
to back you up. India all out for one five
six Marcus case here, big fan of the show. Really
love what you do. Hey, since we're talking about food trucks,
such an awesome food truck in Hamilton named Momo House
end Zed does amazing Nepalese. They recently had their generator

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stole and that sucks. The people who did that were mean,
but they make amazing food. Love your stuff, Markers, have
a good one. Momo Momo. Could you tell us where
Momo wasn't Hamilton? I'd like to know more about that.
Marcus traveling from New Plymouth to the Mandol Criman I
potationed a good trip so far. Stopped in Ta for KFC,
left home three point thirty, a few stops for us

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and dog good weather. Never know which route you'd go
between Coramandlin, New Plymouth or the other way. So well
done you for that. I'm just trying to think out
which way you would go. Oh yes, straight up to Ta,
then cut across straight up to Ta and you go
probably across to Hobbiton. Would you I think you go
that way? Well, maybe you might go through Morrinsville. You've

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got three or four choices, depends where on the Mendle
you'd want to go. That would be my take. Oh,
how you're going? People and New Zealand are in seventh
finiloftra fly. I got a boundary fairl early on, so
that's the situation. So yeah, Lathan got the boundary. I
think he's on seven off three balls, so that's an believable.
By the way, there's been some discussion about what dat

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ita is. It's Crisp Sandwich Day, not chip sandwich Day.
The chip sandwich is like a chip, but deep fried
chip from the were like a soft chip, which is
also good. I'll talk about both tonight. I'm not fast.
I've got texts about that, Marcus. Just by way of clarification,
there are crisp sandwiches and there are chip butties chip

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butties which are proper hot potato on white sandwich bread
bloom and marvelous. Marcus stopped for Scooper Chips on the
way home to make chip butties for Tea. Since I
now know it's chip sandwich Day, chip buddies count right, absolutely, Marcus.
I thought the chips at the shop were especially labeled
for me, but on closer inspection I realized it red cut,

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thick cut. That's a joke. There's good texts. I need
some of your calls too, to know. I don't want
to beg too much for calls because we'll get them going.
I left there to last Sunday to travel with three
dogs to the National Dog Obedience Show at christ Church.
Lovely weather in Ferry Crossing was great on the Condamara

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must have got the right fuel. Many stops in the
one fifty crayfish. Tuesday night, the turner people registered for
the show. It's raining, now what sort of dogs do
you show? And someone's asked about the origin of the
chip Butty and I found this one post which is
sounds slightly racist to me. It was supposedly invented by

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Nouren O'Neill, an Irish mum who was financially struggling to
feed her eighteen children. As the story goes, Norene filled
a sandwich or just two sides of bread with crisp
because it was cheaper than regular sandwich filling, and as
a result, the famous crisp sandwich was born. I think
that's garbage, that's my take on that. But there might

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because since it seems to be since we are in
the golden age of crisps or chip, there might be
some special chip that you've discovered as the best for
your chip sandwich. But now it's all Cajun chicken or
chicken tery archy or lamb and Rosemary with a pincher Cardiman,
all that sort of stuff. So you might want to

(18:23):
have mentioned on that, Marcus. Any updates on New Zealand
Courtena club at the weekend. No, but I don't know
what that is Marcus. We are traveling from ran fairly
Shield Country heading to Westport to pick up Bolt white
bait for Christmas from mumsies. Wow, what a great trip

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because I thought you would get I thought you'd be
close to white bait where you are there. We're waiting
in Willington to ford the faery cheers Harry Bolts. Oh yep,
I won't read out your names. I think it's a joke,
but you need He caught me out there. It was

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h A R R I gap b U L s
AC so yes, people up to play tonight. I think
we are the different sorts of chips there would be
for a chip butty, but when a Chris butty, I
think probably would be the way to differentiate that one,
because I reckon you probably go as far as do

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something like chuck a twisty or a cheesel or a dorito.
I mean you will have invented something though, now maybe
a dorito with tabasco sauce or something. It's all good.
Four there's a four seventeen without loss. They're on fire, unbelievable,

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just coming right forward and just slugging the ball and
Marcus welcome, good evening, Hi end hi.

Speaker 10 (19:53):
There would you wanted some call? So I'm not a
chip person really, but there is sexually a New Zealand
chip Cheney chips quite a few different flav and there's
a New Zealander associated with it. And I'm just trying
to think. I can't vouch for the taste of the

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ship chips, but surely the name's the best. Anyway, the
person associated with the kitchen chip someone will know and
ring in. I can't remember he has had us I read.
I must have read about his life.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Yeah, I'm sure you have. I think it's all made up.

Speaker 10 (20:40):
No, no, no, no. His father had some controlling interests
of the tunnel under the English Channel. He worked there.
I can't remember all the other things. I thought, Gosh,
what a fantastic interesting life. He's yes, he is a
New Zealander. Someone will ring in.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
I think probably one's fully aware of who he is.

Speaker 10 (21:06):
Yes, do you can you produce the name off hand?

Speaker 3 (21:11):
I can't, I'll produce. I'll produce the name off hand.
Ad but thank you for that. He's the guy of
the sports cafe. But he's got one of those chips also. Yeah,
so he's big on chips, but I think some of
the some of the the stuff on the chips is
kind of the legion of the chips. Yeah, I'm getting

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confused what I'm saying, but you kind of understand. Thanks
and twenty five to nine keep in touch. Eight hundred
and eighty nine nine it'll twelve Lee Hart's the guy's
name that we are one hundred ahead against India and
India there is nothing comfortable about that. Come on, Kiwiz.
I don't know the subtleties of cricket matches in the
I se that Washington's loudly appealed but no result there.

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Whaka CHANGI he does the beer in the chips, although
I think they're made under license by I think that
like a regular chip. That's my take on that one. Chips,
Marmite cheese and watercress classic mixed with modern. You chucked
that in a restaurant. You could chuck that in a
restaurant Marcus. In nineteen forty three, we stay with our

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Auntie Biddy and Masterton. She had a shop where she
sold chips and hamburgers. Her main customers were American soldiers.
US kids were given the jobs of taking the spuds
from the peter and put them into the chipper, then
slice them directly into a hot fat to cook. I
can still recall the smell. There'll be the smell of
the chips. I would imagine Auntie Biddy. Where would the

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Americans being null? Where have they been based in Masterton?
Where are they being at Featherston? Though? Was there an
army camp at Masterton? Seems a long way inland. Oh,
we're getting some good information now, Hearty as dumplings have
been at the pop intersection for the fast part to
six years. Real good. Our go to stop en route
Auckland to Inlock. I found them on Google Maps. It's

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quite a nice set up. Good off street parking. It's brilliant.
It's on my list. I'm going to do it. I'm
going to do a as recommended on zb talkback Pilgrimage.
I've got the dumplings there, I've got the homemade bounty
bars at the food caravan at Faery Mead. I've got
Sally's soup. And then is it called Sally's noodle soup?

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I think so Sonya's Noodle soup. It's all happening, Eric Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 11 (23:36):
Yes, I just going to have to look a couple
of days ago. But when knew Nisan about the Rastein
train going from christ to Dan, the night train, that
would be the Friday night run. That's a fridy night
run that you could freep one, it wasn't it.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Yes, that's right, yep, copy that.

Speaker 8 (23:57):
Yeah, I must.

Speaker 11 (23:58):
I must have been in bed that night. But as
I told the lovely assistant, as songs you produced that,
I lived in Hazelden Road, which is probably a k
away from the space, but that's when the trek went
through Eddington.

Speaker 7 (24:15):
Right through.

Speaker 11 (24:17):
I lived by the Raby Trick in Eddington. That's an
old subjecbt of christ.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you did you work for the railways?

Speaker 12 (24:28):
No?

Speaker 11 (24:28):
No, I worked for other throom for I bought a
house for one thousand, eight hundred pounds just before a
couple of years before we changed over our money to
different currency. So mayighty two. So I must be the
freet or just that freet wear in the steat that
their last train went through the sleeper.

Speaker 8 (24:49):
You might next day.

Speaker 11 (24:51):
That next day I heard that the last steam plain
before they put the diesels on for the sudden before
they changed because I had the old red characters. But
in those days there's no videos. But I had an
old eight millimeter camera and movie camera which round crop work.

Speaker 3 (25:12):
Yes, that's right.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
I stood.

Speaker 11 (25:14):
I stood on the road crossing in Selwyn Street and
although it wasn't sound, but at least I've got the
two engines coming past. But what happened? They're not happy
state a little bit earlier. There's quite a lot of
shade because opposite my place was a Champions flour mill,
which is probably quite a big building. So there's quite

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a lot a lot of shadows on the train. But
at least I got the train going past.

Speaker 7 (25:41):
And was it?

Speaker 3 (25:42):
Did you did you film the last train going past?

Speaker 11 (25:45):
Yes, the last train going through? It was that three
the the limited going through to your place, not black
but in the cargo. Okay, so he filmed it, and
I've still got the film, but I don't think they
have got it compt to the DVD. But the rest
I got it, and I just then the trainer's going

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back and net free turning around and met the carriages.
And then you've got the smoke going over Grove Road
leading towards the old and into the railway station.

Speaker 3 (26:17):
Man, okay, okay, tell me something, tell me something, Erica,
you good is? Are you well and hearty? After your
time and your break?

Speaker 10 (26:26):
No?

Speaker 11 (26:26):
Then and then hospital. I wasn't hospital. I came out
of us a couple of days ago.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
Good, and you're better out.

Speaker 11 (26:36):
I want to hold up. I've got a drip in
the I've got to stay there for two hours. I've
got to stay. I've got miss Maud coming every day
for the next six weeks to shift. I'm plug dinner right.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Oh God, you should show you should show your railway
foot and she might be interested.

Speaker 11 (26:52):
Oh well, it's going back, but I'll have to dig it.
I'll have to do it. The older, the old movie
movie project.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
I'd like to see that sometimes. Eric, nice to talk
to you. Good luck with all of that. Hope it
goes well with the drip and everything like that. So yeah,
you't be going too far for labor weekend, but nice
to have a chat, do you. There we go ten
away from nine Marcus. Let's all go that we've got
to show bits and bobs. But you'd never know. By
midnight i'd be standing room only thirty three without loss.

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Latham on nineteen Conway on fourteen years in and lead
by one three six runs. We got in there out
very cheaply at home their home. Wooh oh, shees all go.
We are talking food trucks and out of the way
places that are worth stopping at. We're talking Americans in

(27:44):
the whited Lappa during World War two. And chip sandwiches,
the ones with crisps, not the one with soft chips.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
And if you've got any regional variation with one of
those that I've invented, someone said, someone said one that's
quite a good one with watercress. I'm liking that a lot. Chips, marmite, cheese,
and watercress. I'd leave out the cheese. I'd probably just
do the chips, the marmite, and the watercress. I'd put
something else in there to give it a bit of

(28:15):
shina se qua or a bit of omami. You don't
know what that would be. Do you check a bit?
Would you check it? What's even that foodmented? Would you
check a bit of Oh, we would check anything in there? Actually,
good little kim chi. You could check in there anyway,
Get in touch, Marcus till twelve. She's all on and

(28:36):
we are looking at why the Americans were in the
Wide Apple during World War Two. Marcus the American soldiers
with the Solway Showgrounds local historian and Juno Mark Pacey's
just recently off his own back put a plaque there
follows men way to go. Cheers Ross. I don't know
much about that at all, the Solway Showground, So if
you've got some information, don't mind getting a bit of

(28:59):
history about that. I have walked past the Solway Showground.
Isn't know had a military background, but who knew. It's
got a military kind of look to it looks pretty
old school, cheapest. It looks like the Indians are celebrating.
I feel funny calling them the Indians. India is celebrating, I.

Speaker 13 (29:21):
Should say.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Devon Conway, LBW Bold Washington out for seventeen off twenty
five balls, so successful breakthrough for India. This test isn't
over yet. Sort of thing you say to create interest in,
isn't it? Beck at your Marcus till twelve if you
want to be a part of the show. Oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty getting touchhead of the end?

(29:46):
Anything else you've got, any breaking news, any non breaking news,
Sidney wallabees, let us know about that. Yeah, yeah, Greg, Marcus.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Welcome, Hey Marcus.

Speaker 14 (30:01):
Here you go.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
Good Greg. I've chucked checked my earphones on so I
can hear you properly.

Speaker 14 (30:04):
Welcome perfect.

Speaker 15 (30:08):
Hey.

Speaker 16 (30:08):
I don't know why the Americans were here in Wafat
during World War Two, but just to sort of add
into the conversation, I'm the youngs of a very large family,
and my parents got married in nineteen thirty five. My
father was an engineer, but he was on his last
lead just before World War two ended. But one thing

(30:31):
he used to say was that when the Americans left
New Zealand, they left a huge amount of surplus supplies,
and one of those supplies was electric motives, large electric motives,
and my father bought one from the Americans for next
to nothing. I remember saying it, and he used it

(30:51):
and he was making a bench store, so that and
he needed a motor to house measure because he was
building our family home at the time.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Great story. So he cut timber with an engine, a
saw made an engine that the American gis had left
there in Masterton.

Speaker 16 (31:11):
No, it was it was less than autumn. Sorry, sorry,
there's no no conets to worry about.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Oh okay, I see, yep.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
It was just the fact that you know, it's.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
So we're just cutting off the lines. They agree. But nice,
I've got unfortunately run to the news. So I appreciate
you coming through and nice to hear from you. So
we'll continue talking in that vein. Also afterwards, I'm interested
in building long trips for the long weekend. If you
are on a hicky you or hitting somewhere, let us
know where that is and how far through that journey
you are. We've got people going to dog shows, we've

(31:44):
got people picking up white bait, we've got people going powering,
and we've even got people raving about the hearty as dumplings.
And I'll put that on the Facebook page. That looks fantastic.
And with that we've gone and put one of the
topics is out of the way food trucks that are

(32:04):
worth basing your junior where there you go. That's that,
that's the situation. Out of the way food trucks that
are worth basing your journey around. Now that's a complicated topic,
but I'm up for it because you get that great
idea of going to a food truck in the out
of the way place. G But also you think also, well,
you know, good on them for getting out of way

(32:25):
to set their business up. They're out of competition. I've
picked it up on I've checked on the Facebook page
Hardy as Dumpling State Highway thirty two south of Fukamru.
Really nice setup they've got. Looks like they're probably chucking
a bit of a fee to the people that are
on the land in front to get in touch. You

(32:46):
want to mention that we're also talking about it is
crisp Sandwich Day, which we're using called chip sandwich, but
a cold chip, not a hot chip. I'm looking for
exciting variations for those and ways to celebrate those. Someone
has says salmon and chips makes an nice club sandwich. Wow,

(33:10):
sounds excellent. You've got the amega threes of the salmon
and then the crunch of the chips, and then someone
talked about working in their mothers No, not their mother,
Auntie Biddy's chip shop in Marter'son in nineteen forty three.
Her main customers were American soldiers. Now, I didn't know

(33:33):
anything about American soldiers in Marston and World War Two. However,
through my gurgling during the news, I've learned, in fact
that there was a large number of them, and a
book has just been written about them, and they'd been
in the Battle of Guadalcanal, had a tough time there,
and they came to New Zealand unwell to recuperate, and

(33:58):
they stayed mainly I think at Solway. That's my understanding.
They camped at the Solway showgrounds while on leave from
combat in the Pacific. I'm not quite sure I have
the numbers that were there. They talk about several God,

(34:19):
it's always hard for me to understand what they mean
about when they talk about two battalions, how many battalions.
Some of the might better to tell me about that
there were two battalions that were there for rest and recreation.
Were mainly rest and recuperation, although they did enjoy rabbit hunting,
which was popular with the locals because no one liked
the rabbits.

Speaker 7 (34:39):
So there we go.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
I've learned a bit already. Tonight lines they're free for
you eleven past nine. Any of these things we are
talking about tonight, there's something else you want to a
pine about or mentioned good. But if that's not enough,
there might be something else you want to mention. Yeah,
get in touch. We may as well make it. Marcus.
I'm at the Mini Nationals at Lake Carpedo. We have

(35:02):
one hundred and thirty nine minis, of which ninety are
classics from all around us and Mikey. The first thing
I think is I wish they were all classics. I
don't like the modern minise, but I maybe that's a
fun time. Imagine some will be yellow. The Mini Nationals
at Lake Carrpedo. So it seems as though this is

(35:24):
a long weekend. There's big four car clubs. Because I've
already learned there is a courteena car thing happening at
New Plymouth. But backatch, if you want to talk about
any these things, it's nice to hear from you. He'sil midnight.
My name is Marcus. Welcome o eight and I'll keep
you update with a cricket, not ball by ball, but
probably over by over. Certainly we let you know about wickets,

(35:47):
and I'll we let you know about controversial decisions. Latham's
on twenty four footy balls young sixteen or eighteen fifty
eight four to one us in lead by one six
y to one runs. I'm sort I think we're the
most out of the way food track i've come across
has been. I think I've been up north of westportin
was that I've been biking. I was surprised to see

(36:08):
one coming down the road. Whilst coming down the road,
that's a great looking cricket study. And what's the hell
in the background? If someone I'd like to climb that? Seann,
it's Marcus. Good evening and welcome.

Speaker 15 (36:22):
Just a little tumorous bit from way back in the forties.
The local people didn't really like the Yanks here. They
were grizzled about them, and they were overpaid, oversexed and
over here.

Speaker 6 (36:39):
And the.

Speaker 15 (36:42):
Soldiers that were away fighting the wall had their arms
behind their backs because the girls were always looking for
somebody to go out with. And the Yanks were very
very good gentlemen and dates and they were very very popular.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
It looks like, yeah, well, thank you. Sure, it looks
like an interesting book this guy's written about them. The
book is for sale too, So I'll tell you the
name of the bookcase might be curious about that. He's
a journalist and he's just released this book was released,
and Mark Pacey is the guy's name. It's called I'll
find the name of the book. It's available with the
local whitkeles. Looks like a grape read looks like a

(37:21):
youngster of a rooster of the guy that's written at
Our New Zealand Home is a book about the marine
stay in Masterton. They were camped next to the girls' school,
which is interesting and so maybe what Sean said is
maybe a misconception, because it says the book makes clear
masts and locals embraced the Americans, inviting them for Sunday

(37:44):
roasts and to help with pest control on farms, helping
iron their uniforms, and setting up a community watering hole
the American Red Cross Services Club. What if any of
them stayed there, that would be an interesting angle to
look into, wouldn't it. Our New Zealand Home is available
at Headley's Book Sellers for a Good Bookshop and Paper
Plus and Marston can be ordered online. Marcus am staying

(38:07):
in Queenstown this long weekend. Just spent over an hour
waiting to get the best and biggest burger I've ever
had at fur It's called fur Burgers, It's called ferg Burgers. Damn,
it's busy, well worth the weight. I'll get one tomorrow again,
but pre order it, Hamish, I don't know you could
pre order them. I took the kids one last time

(38:30):
there and it went pretty well. Actually it went pretty
well because just as our order came up, a table
became available. It's always good when you've got kids to
get a table. They're not good sort of eating and walking.
They shouldn't have to be. But what's excited when the

(38:51):
table became available? Anyway, get in touch Marcus till twelve
this mad Friday. You might be driving, you might be
an uber person that's gonna let us know how busy
the city is. And there might be something else you're
desperate to mention. It is chip day or chip sandwich day.
I'm thinking with the dumplings. I wonder if you could
order a head. That would be interesting, wouldn't it. That's

(39:14):
a sign of a re sophisticated food cart where you
can phone ahead and say you're on your way. Although
I was also looking at where the food cat is
this one that we've talked much about. I thought, perhaps
it's on the top of a road you want to
you'd want to indicate with plenty of warning before that
right turn. I'm worried about that, slightly concerned about that.

(39:36):
You might have some information about that also, but very
good when it's on Google Maps. Hand and Marcus, welcome,
I HEADN Marcus, how he does?

Speaker 5 (39:48):
Good?

Speaker 3 (39:49):
AHEADN what's happening?

Speaker 10 (39:51):
Good?

Speaker 6 (39:51):
God?

Speaker 17 (39:52):
He just wanted to sort of start a bit of
a conversation around the whole.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
I said, what's happening?

Speaker 17 (40:00):
What's happening? Yeah, I'm just driving in a minute home,
hitting home, but.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
But not going away for the long weekend.

Speaker 17 (40:11):
No, no, no, no, no, I'm I'm a bit of
a demand. I've got a wedding to plan and pay for,
and you are an apprenticeship to get signed off on.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
And are you a wedding planner?

Speaker 17 (40:24):
No, no, no, no, it's my own wedding.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Oh, when where's the when's the wedding? In March, middle
of March that's six months away, isn't it.

Speaker 17 (40:34):
Four and a half? Now?

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Yeah, you aren't counting down. Okay, anyway, what do you
want to say?

Speaker 17 (40:42):
Yeah, I just wanted to start a bit of conversation
around Obviously, there's some new legislation around the whole gang
patches situation, and I just wanted to hear people's thoughts
on what their thoughts are about that the law includes
wearing gang patches in your own home. Personally, I have

(41:05):
no issue with outlawing things in public. I mean, it's
illegal to walk around naked in public, but I feel
like it would be a bit of an overreach of
the lord to outlaw me walking around make it in
my own home. So I just wanted to hear what
people's thoughts are. Personally, I'm not involved with any gangs affiliated,

(41:26):
not even really from that part of the community in
any way, but it just seems to me like it's
a bit of an overreach. And how do they enforce
that because you could almost be guaranteed that people are
going to where their patches in their own homes. They
have some of the boys over for bears, I'd imagine

(41:48):
that something they do. So how do you enforce that
because as soon as someone's doing that in their own home,
they're now crossing the boundary of the law.

Speaker 3 (41:57):
So I don't even know if it's illegal to be
naked on the street. I think that might depend on
local bylaws.

Speaker 17 (42:06):
Is it not illegal to walk around completely?

Speaker 3 (42:10):
I'm not entirelysh I can't find the law. I can't
find the law myself.

Speaker 17 (42:15):
Yeah there are.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
I mean, there are laws for a decent exposure, but
that means if there's someone else there that you're exposing
yourself to. But I appreciate you. Start ahead, and thanks
for coming through. Wayne. It's Marcus. Welcome. Good evening.

Speaker 18 (42:28):
Oh, good evening, Marcus. No, you were talking about the
way rapper situation. Yes, and you were saying you didn't
know much about it. So during the Second World War
nineteen forty one or two or three, they head a
prisoner at prison camp over in Petterston.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
Oh yeah, and yeah, I'm very aware of that with
the Japanese with the right ye yeah. No, I think yeah, yea,
because that comes up and talk aback quite often with
Pea because it's in fact, just the other night we
talked about where artifacts rare artifacts, and some woman had
a walking stick that her husband gave her that was
carved by the Japanese that were in turn there, because

(43:13):
it seems like they had quite a good relationship with
the you know, they they made stuff and they it
seems like they had quite an interesting time. Well, of
course it was a riot there and people got shots.
I shouldn't attract from that.

Speaker 18 (43:26):
No, I think you're right. Actually, yeah, because they had
the person and take a Christmas and everything was apparently
going right from what I've repleached, and they had and
then the second intake and yeah, it's got a work worse.

Speaker 3 (43:40):
But what But what I didn't realize that we're talking
about there was a large how many people in the battalion.

Speaker 18 (43:48):
I've got no idea.

Speaker 3 (43:50):
I've got no idea because it's one of those things
that military people know about, Oh battalion, there's that many,
easy to go. But there were several battalions staying in
masts and for rest and recreation, which I never knew.
I guess they just had were looking for land to
put people somewhere, come into Wellington, put them on a train,
seeing them to Marston for recuperation.

Speaker 18 (44:10):
I'll tell you, I'll I'll will tell you one funny
story my grandfather, so he was with a German heritage.
But they had arrived in New Zealand dec In eighteen
seventy six on a ship called the Fritz Router. I
think it was was supposed to go to America, but
it got waylaid here and they went through a few issues,

(44:34):
you know, in the early nineteen hundreds. But he got
selected to go to the Second World War. And of
course his surname was Shorts.

Speaker 14 (44:43):
Oh wow, yeah, okay, and he was private Shorts.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (44:49):
But he didn't talk much about the war, but he
always told me you're that, you know, seeing it Trent
and Army camp and they used to march over the
over the Roman tackets, you know, to the and that
the training at the dime.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
Yeah, I feel we need I feel it would be great.
It's the same no one watches TV now because I
feel it'd be quite good. The time seems to be
about right to do a good history of New Zealand
during World War Two because a lot of those stories
kind of probably were told at the time. I think
a lot of the stories people would find quite interesting.

Speaker 18 (45:24):
Yeah, I think, you know, all the years after the
war and there you know, and you can understand soldiers,
you know, wouldn't like to talk about the war. My
grandfather was like that. And when he passed away back
in nineteen eighty nine, the ARI say people walking up
you know, at his service and that. But he wasn't

(45:44):
either one that actually was involved with the ARIA. But
it was fine that they could say, you know, it.

Speaker 3 (45:49):
Was nice to hear from you. Why you have a
good long weekend. Thank you. Roberts Marcus, welcome you.

Speaker 7 (45:56):
Yea good rob good.

Speaker 9 (45:58):
Are you watching the cricket?

Speaker 19 (45:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (45:59):
I am. I just went black for a while. I
couldn't work out what.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
That was about.

Speaker 9 (46:02):
It crazy that have just put the fast bowler on
now hey, bit of opening with them for a couple
of overs to start with.

Speaker 19 (46:13):
Well, that's just.

Speaker 9 (46:13):
Crazy, isn't that?

Speaker 3 (46:15):
Someone texted me a great show? But sorry Mark because
I got to go watch the cricket. Potentially history in
the making is this? Have we never won a series
with one test but never a series? Is that the case?

Speaker 8 (46:26):
That could be?

Speaker 20 (46:27):
Right?

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Yes, okay, I'll try. You don't know for sure they'll do.

Speaker 9 (46:30):
You No, I don't, I'll try. I remember I think
it was nineteen eighty eight, was the last time we
won apart from the last Test, Yeah, when John Wright
was the coach and that.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
Was I presume these bowling figures are the best since Hadley?

Speaker 19 (46:44):
Is that right?

Speaker 9 (46:46):
Well, it seems to be said and did pretty well
to me.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Yeah, well say it was a second best or Google
has news never won a series in India. The last
time the key was triumph was in nineteen eighty eight
when they secured one through six one victory overall. This
is only the third Test win for New Zealand in
fifteen series India, so it looks like it would be
the first Test series for my quick reading of that.

Speaker 9 (47:09):
Yeah, I just thought it was crazy that they've just
put the opening bowler of the fast bowl we're on
now seventeen over Zeroon and they didn't even open with
them with the brand new ball. Just crazy.

Speaker 3 (47:23):
There's a pretty scattered run out there, or attempted run
out there as well.

Speaker 9 (47:26):
Rob Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, Oh good mate, have a
good night.

Speaker 3 (47:30):
Eh, nice to talk to you too.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
Someone might want else want to a pint on that.
So I think I think this would be the I
don't think we've Yeah, he's.

Speaker 21 (47:44):
So.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
The last Test victory was in nineteen eighty eight. So
I believe we haven't won a series. Could someone confirm
that with it's It's slightly hard for me to clarify
that via the texts or via the email anyway, Marcus
News talks, they'd be get in touch with us eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty and nine to nine to text, Hi, Marcus,

(48:04):
it's uber gym. My grand father, Robert Scott Beveridge, was
a captain of the New Zealand Army World War II
and a sergeant in the New Zealand Army World War
One at Gallipity. He was killed in a motor vehicle
extent when an army truck rolled I believe it was
the Libertucker Hill and he was stationed at Marston at
the time. Thanks he was as an aside. He was

(48:25):
my mother's father and was fighting in Gallipoli at the
same time as my father's father. He was my mother's
father and fighting in Gallipu at the same time as
my father's father, and both survived. So both uber Jim's
grandparents were fighting at Gillipoli at the same time and
both survived. There we go so talk about Masterton during

(48:47):
World War II and I knew that there was all
sorts of places where the American soldiers were in New Zealand.
I just didn't realize they're in Marthterrton because it just
seems like such an out of the way place. But
I guess, you know, as long as you had a
place where there was room for them to camp, you
get them there by train hand each the ports. I
presume they came from Guadalcanal into Wellington and got trained

(49:11):
up there and stayed there for recuperation, then got sent
back to combat. I guess that's my understanding. Seventy eight
for one. New zeal in lead by one hundred and
eighty one runs seventy eight for one. I've seen a
few familiar Kiwis in the audience at the last test.

(49:32):
I don't know quite who's there. It was the old
guy from the share owners Association. Forget his name. He
looked familiar guy with a bed. Anyway, someone will know
Thoma's Marcus. Good evening and.

Speaker 19 (49:44):
Welcome, good evening. So I've been interested in the numbers
of the soldiers. Yes, I was aware that a brigade
was a thousand men because I was the supervisor that
Saver was a brigadier general. Right, but I've looked in
a dictionary and there's three battalions in a brigade. Brigadier

(50:05):
general to a brigade we had We had about twenty
platoon in the territorials.

Speaker 3 (50:15):
So it seems to be quite flexible.

Speaker 19 (50:19):
Well, he definitely stated one thousand men to.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
A brigade, okay, how me to a battalion?

Speaker 19 (50:26):
Well, the third of a brigade.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
Okay, so that's three hundred and thirty or something, isn't it.

Speaker 19 (50:30):
Yeah, that's that sort of thing. Yeah, minded it very
bit's depending on the accuracy the shooting, wasn't.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
It, Yes? And how far through the war they were,
of course too, because it come back from Guada Canal too.
So yeah, okay, appreciate that time.

Speaker 19 (50:45):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
Twenty seven to ten seventy eight four two in the
Cricket for Ravendra is in we are talking about soldiers
during World War Two in Masterton. Yeah, reinterest what you're
going to say about that? It's quite interesting. From the
wide Lapper College website in nineteen twenty five, The News

(51:06):
in ninety twenty five, the US Navy's Pacific Battle Fleet
twenty seven vessels visit New Zealand during a good will
tour of the South Pacific. On a day trip to Marston,
the Marines Betweed to a rugby match featuring Wirreed Upper
College's first fifteen to the local WYAMCA. Following this, the
relationship between the two countries to strengthen. In World War II,

(51:26):
the US Marine called Third and Fourth Defense Battalion rested
and recuperated and mastered at the Solway Showgrounds and the
showgrounds in town now known as Soldiers Memorial Park. During
the time, two thousand US soldiers enjoyed a taste of
the whited rappa, hunting, fishing, jungle, training in the tarouas,

(51:47):
training exercise at Riversdale Social Dances, et cetera, et cetera. Today,
soldiers of Memorial Park, Fleet Street and the new housing
area the Barracks are all named in memory of their contribution.
Ten soldiers in a section, three sections of the platoon,
three owns in the company, and three companies in the battalion.

(52:12):
It makes it two seventy good evening, Graham ats Marcus, Welcome.

Speaker 8 (52:19):
Yeah again, Marcus, just hearing a story about the US
Marines and Martin and I grew up on the Cavity coast,
but then was raised and paper Gain and slomon Oza.
A lot of those US Marines fort So lived in
gun and now where a lot of them had spend
their lives but lost their lives, and also raised in Madang.

Speaker 17 (52:43):
So in Medan.

Speaker 8 (52:44):
My brother was one day cutting the long grass of
a bush knife and he's cutting this grass and next
to this clunk clunk, clunk, And as he's cutting the grass,
he discovers this unexploded shell from World War two. Still
wow wow. And so my father sort of, you know,

(53:09):
says to us, us kids, you know, there's four of us,
don't play with the shell, you know, don't touch the shell.
And you know, of course, over the next few weeks
we start, you know, playing with the shell, jumping around
this unexploded shell. He rings the public get in defense
force and reminds him that the shell is there. They

(53:30):
eventually tune up. Don't turn up with you know, like
a robot or sort of armor of any kind. But
they turned up in shorts sandals to a high ace
and they chuck the shell on the back of the
high ase.

Speaker 6 (53:46):
You know.

Speaker 8 (53:46):
So yeah, so yeah, quite quite amazing.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
Really, how big was the shell? I'm thinking one that's
about a foot long and three inches across the bottom.
Is it how big they were, right right?

Speaker 6 (53:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (53:58):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's lots of them all through
the islands, they like through the sim I was Ryland.
You know, often in the back garden there was you know,
light bullets, you'd find you odd grenade.

Speaker 5 (54:09):
You know.

Speaker 8 (54:09):
You go into villages and there would be just these
piles of mortar shells just rusted and lying in the sun.
You know, that are everywhere, you know, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Were your was your family in the extractive industry or
spreading the word?

Speaker 17 (54:26):
Yeah, neither of.

Speaker 8 (54:29):
You would even be You would either be a missionary
and mercenary.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
You know, or and you were neither nah no, my
dad for world health.

Speaker 8 (54:39):
Organizations, so your health. So yeah, but often our mercenaries
or missionaries one of the kind days.

Speaker 3 (54:47):
And is that when were you there in the in
the eighties are we talking?

Speaker 2 (54:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (54:52):
Seventies and early eighties.

Speaker 19 (54:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (54:53):
It was a fantastic child today, you know, through the islands.
You know, I actually grew up finger. I was brown,
came back from New zond and just go and I
was white.

Speaker 6 (55:00):
You know.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
It was yeah, d there were still heaps of stuff
from the water evidence of the war.

Speaker 8 (55:07):
Yeah, he's just stuff, particularly World War two, you know,
particularly a lot of coat bottles, actually a lot of
coat bottles added massivelyction of coat bottles, uh, left over marines.
There was army helmets, bayonets, rusted rifle shells, you know
that you would still have the have the metal there
of the rifle shells. Yeah, everywhere, grenades, mortars, live shells, yeah, yeah,

(55:34):
just stackloads of it.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
Yeah, because I kind of was of the opinion that
most of the better was around Guada Canal, not on
Guarda Canal, but I presume it was both landforces and
sea forces.

Speaker 8 (55:43):
And now a lot of us on Guarda Canal, Panatina
Ridge and just up from us here was there was
heaps of stuff. You could just walk up as a
curt and you just have a little bit of a
dig around and you know, lucky not to blow ourselves
up really to be honest looking back on it, but
find live ammunition just like that. Really, some of my

(56:06):
room was filled with warheads and shells and plates and
bottles and yeah, all sorts. Yeah, yeah, lots lots of
stuff budding around stole in the isles.

Speaker 3 (56:18):
Nice to hear from your Graham. Thank you so much.
At eighteen to ten, Marcus kemped about the back of
the Why can I campfire? Burning glass of red Paradise
in the backyard? Love listening about Marsden Tonight, Burton Murritt.
Thanks Burton murt Just coming to Lumstone. Oh that's the wow.
Switch drivers? You want to switch drives before the Devil's staircase.

(56:42):
How to make the best crisp sandwich? You know, I
say crisp because I'm trying. I know, we don't call
them crisps. I'm trying to distinguish between hot chips and
cold chips, so we don't get topic creep. Sometimes with
talk back, I think there's people that deliberately give topic creep.
But if you noticed on Facebook pages like you might

(57:02):
have a like, there might be a nostalgia page or
like a these always people are deliberately doing topic creep.
There'll be a post about something, they take it in
a direction no one wants to go, and then the
whole post is lost. You notice that drives me crazy,
Johnny Marcus, Welcome.

Speaker 6 (57:22):
Good evening, Marcus. Yeah, I was just listening here standing
here over the frying pan making piplots. I was recalled
a conversation I had with you not too long ago
about a friend of mine from Greidal Canal who's from
the Mormon Church, and so he's a Solomon nitor and

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he's over here and we're just talking at my kitchen
table about the stuff he collects from the battles that
are up in the bush. And so the old magazines
rusted together, and there's this old artillery and stuff like
that that's been blown up and it's also crashed Mitsubishi

(58:04):
zero wreckage in there. Now they make a bit of
scrimshare and jewelry and stuff like that. And it's very common,
like the previous caller scene for people to find live
unexploded ordnance. And you said they're very casual, like the

(58:26):
previous cours sees about people which will be around shorts
and sandals thrown on the back of a truck and
another place, and ither think about that there was significant
warfare on the land with the fight for the airfield there,
and if people are interested in that kind of history,
there are some YouTube channels where they have people Australians

(58:52):
and New Zealands who do the commentary. So it's it's
not all flash lights and sirens, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
I'm just curious. Yeah, it's only one hundred and sixty
thousand people live on Guider Canal. It's not already Well,
it's a pretty it's a pretty rugged looking island, isn't it.

Speaker 6 (59:09):
Yeah. And so a lot of people go out fishing
and diving an iron bottom Sound where there was a
significant amount of warfare, and of course there was the
ramming of the Japanese submarine, the biggest submarine by the
New Zealand TWI and the Kiwi. And this was quite

(59:29):
a heroic piece of warfare where the commander of the
two he asked permission from his crew, offering them a
week off and bears on Queen Street if they made
it home if he could ram the submarine. And in
the wreckage of the submarine, there was one New Zealand
life and there was a lot of machine gun We're
done from this converted fishing trawler, these two converted fishing

(59:55):
trawlers in the New Zealand's maybe acting attacking this Japanese
sub And so some of the wreckish that they found
had like an Enigma type machine or some codebooks to
do with advanced planning and other operations, and this was
was able to give them intelligence which also saved lives.

(01:00:18):
So it's documented. Yeah, and it's a very interesting piece
of theater. It's been recreated using slot not cartoon graphics,
but quite similar like Peter Jackson has done in the past.

Speaker 3 (01:00:31):
What's the what's the what's the YouTube channel called? Or
do you know anything about?

Speaker 8 (01:00:38):
If you just google.

Speaker 6 (01:00:41):
Ki we and till We Strike Japanese submarine Guidal Canal,
you can on or look put that in the search
box for for YouTube. You can look it up and
watch the reenactment of it, and there's there's also lots
and lots of material on it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
So appreciate Johnny. You go back to the pipees. But
thank you so much for calling. And good evening, Garriet's
Marcus welcome.

Speaker 7 (01:01:03):
Yeah, good evening, Marcus. Just I lived on the island
of Rendover in the western Provinces of the Solomon Islands,
and I lived up there for quite a while. I
lived not far from where the PT bats were kept
the two lagi as well, and that's where the great

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PT one O nine was based during the Second World War.
And here went over visited Kennedy Island, which used to
be called plum Putting Island, but they call it Kennedy
Island now. It was the first island he got to
when he got out of the crack when they smashed
into a Japanese destroyer wrecked the PT one O nine

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and they all swam with little island there. So the
history up there is amazing. They were doing a lot
of saw milling up there when I was there, and
they had these portable sawmills, and I watched them cut
the straight the coiller. They had this beautiful quilla and
they'd be cutting it down next minute the blade and

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the big round blade and the sawmill would go pang
and there'd be sparks. And it was when they were
they were still hitting bullets that were lodged into the
into the timber.

Speaker 22 (01:02:21):
It was.

Speaker 7 (01:02:24):
So there's a lot of stuff up there that's hangover.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
Well from carry When were you there?

Speaker 7 (01:02:33):
I was up there seven years ago. I lived up
there for nearly year.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
Yeah, And was it anything interesting that took you there,
because it's hardly anyone on win David at about four
thousand people.

Speaker 7 (01:02:45):
Yeah, Yeah, Rendovers are very small land. I really I
was helping supervise an airport at Munda and they were
making the airport at Maunda into an internationally acceptable airport,
so putting in light some security fencing and that so

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big jets could land there. It was a very strategic
airport because there was a lot of a lot of
cross cross flying going on above it and it was
the safety reason. So I was there and the New
Zealand High Commission we're doing the all the work on
the airport there and yeah, so it's an incredible place

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and the people are just so damn nice. They're just lovely,
lovely people were locals and you know that they they
I was just treated so well up there. But I
enjoyed my time up there, and especially the Second World
War stuff. I'm absolutely obsessed with it. And that was,
you know, because Kennedy was on there and a JFK fan,

(01:03:51):
and you know, it was it was quite amazing being
on that island of Rendover because that was where you know,
they had the big, the big the PT base was
there as well, so that was that was quite a
But it looks.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
It looks so much. It looks almost impenetrable the island, doesn't.
I mean, there's not much roads or anything on it.

Speaker 7 (01:04:11):
It's a big there's a big mountain in the middle
of it which is quite high, and to really just
it's jungle. I mean, it's still jungle. Markets it's it's
you know, there's not a lot of people, as you say,
to live on window. There's a few villages. They they
have villages scattered all around on the on the coastline

(01:04:33):
sort of, and they'll build a village that might only
be three hundred people live in the village.

Speaker 15 (01:04:37):
But you know, and.

Speaker 7 (01:04:40):
The stuff up there is hardly ever been touched, and
you know all the old ordinance that's lying around. And
I dove on a plane it was a Japanese it
was an American hell cat and got that story go
all night. But how it ended up in the water.
It's only nine meters down in the water.

Speaker 12 (01:05:00):
And I dove on it.

Speaker 7 (01:05:01):
There and you could, you could, you could get inside
and sit in the pilot's It was still unbelievable. Yeah,
it was still you know, and great note.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
I don't believe it there because I got the news,
But thank you so much for calling. I really appreciate it.
I never heard of that island as well. So that's great.
Thank you. You have just rejoined me for me to
tell you that there has just been a wicket, So
here we go. I'm just watching it again. Here's the
bowl spinning. I don't even hear the bats, but it
is at the stage, but I'll bring that to you.

(01:05:33):
It's clean. Bold right took both middle and off stump
out and I'm just trying to see if the headshot
to see who the bowler was, and I haven't seen
that yet, so just hold your horses. I'll bring this
detail to you. They're just showing a woman in the
travender is it flip?

Speaker 11 (01:05:49):
Oh boy?

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
Revendra for nine, Bold Washington. Where you can make that
ball move? Revendra Bold Washington for nine. The Guade Canal
topic creep. It was Fantastics thro the Formative Award winning
show tonight from Murray. I've got to say that, as
you probably know, not as you know, but my knowledge

(01:06:14):
of World War Two is not huge, so I'm always
fitty into I mean, it's just so there's just such
a huge amount to learn. That's why I like people
with their passion. But the reason we're onto this topic
talking about Guida Canal because we started talking about chips
and someone rang and said that they remember there that

(01:06:36):
there aren't Betty making chips for the American soldiers and
Masterton in nineteen forty three. And I said, why would
the Americans be in Mastered at nineteen forty three? And
they were there, two battalions of troops recuperating from the
devastating battle in Guadalcanal. So I presume they went by
train and they camped Solway Park, and I presume they

(01:06:59):
then trained back down to Wellington then went back to combat.
That would be my understanding, you know, but it's not
a part of I knew that there were American camps
all around New Zuum, I didn't realize they were in
Masterson as well. Seemed a long way inland for me. Anyway,
That's what we are talking about tonight, and out of
the way food caravans that are worth taking a bend

(01:07:23):
in the journey. For another question, someone says, sadly, we
lost our dad last weekend. So men, my siblings are
tasked with cleaning his rental property. Dad was always a
sea dog at heart. Unfortunately the kids aren't so keen,
so imagine our surprise when we open the double garage
to stacks of old life jackets, diving suits and old
diving tanks. Can we dump them all on the skippin?

(01:07:46):
Or where else? Can we dispose of nine scuba diving
tanks and suits? Where would you dispose of I've got
no idea because I presume they've got to be careful.
You can't just crush them because I'd explode. So if
anyone knows what mat can do, I'd like to hear
from you about that good evening Gillet's Marcus.

Speaker 13 (01:08:08):
Welcome, Oh good evening, Marcus. I can't believe you've brought
up the Americans and Masterton. I was a small child
of five, and very well still remember those beautiful young men.
My father was a animal of hospitality, and we did

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have our house at weekends full of these young men,
and my dad was a big wonderful cook and cooked
their roast dinners. My mother befriended these lovely young fellows
and wrote to their mothers. I still have the letters
the mothers wrote back. I still have the toolbox one

(01:08:50):
of them called Thomas Knight Leaft and gave to my dad,
and I still use his hammer with Thomas engraved on
its hickory hand or I just can't believe to hear about.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
It, because I been lovely stories. Jill, What lovely did
you say? Did you say that your mother wrote to
the soldiers mothers, Yes, a lovely thing to do, What
a lovely thing to do?

Speaker 13 (01:09:17):
And I still have the leaders because she was a
keeper that they wrote back, especially when those young men
went after Pacific and so many of them were killed.

Speaker 3 (01:09:30):
So they came after battle and they went back to battle.
That is it the same I went.

Speaker 13 (01:09:34):
Off, yes, to the Pacific, and the Japanese killed them.
It was terrible, not all of them, of course, but
they were dreadful battles. And the leaders I have are amazing.

Speaker 14 (01:09:50):
Jill.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
Did you did you find out because you befriended these
people when they came to Masterton? Then did you get notices?
Did people tell you they'd been killed in combat? How
did that communicate the mother's right?

Speaker 13 (01:10:02):
Of course, yes, there several just the were half a
dozen special ones. I've even still got photos of these
beautiful young boys. And of course they were so handsome,
and they had Lilly's and stockings and chocolates and cigarettes

(01:10:23):
that weren't available because it was wartime. And there were
a few young women I think who became very friendly
with some of them.

Speaker 3 (01:10:33):
But children, any of them come back and live in masters.

Speaker 13 (01:10:37):
Sometimes it had never happened, and.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
The man with the hickory hammered. He survived.

Speaker 13 (01:10:44):
No, Tommy was killed. He was called Tommy Thomas Knight.

Speaker 23 (01:10:49):
No, he was killed.

Speaker 13 (01:10:51):
It's one of the letters I've got from his mother
years so they're pretty old and tatty now. But my
mother was a keeper and I have been those. I
have lately been going through old things and it's funny
I'd come across these things and now you've bought it up.

Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
It's amazing to have the hammer is such a techtile
thing to have too, that he has.

Speaker 13 (01:11:17):
Oh, I love my hammer, I believe it or not.
I keep it in the kitchen draw.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
I can imagine that. Are Are you still in Masterton, Jill?

Speaker 10 (01:11:27):
No?

Speaker 13 (01:11:28):
No, My dad was a bit of a gypsy and
we moved heaps of times, and i lived most of
my life in Wellington, but I'm back in Parmiston, Norse now.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
I like the way you use words, Jill. Did you
say your father was an animal event for entertaining? Is
that thought you see?

Speaker 13 (01:11:48):
Yes, he missed the hospitality and we lived in the
big old there's a Renald who in those the Renal
family had a lot to do with my rapper in
the early pioneer days. And we lived in the old
rental house twenty one works upright, I still remember very well,

(01:12:09):
big old barn of a place. And as I say,
at weekend, it was filled with these young men.

Speaker 7 (01:12:20):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:12:21):
I can't believe it's I like the way you say.
Your mother's a keeper too, so I know that what
you mean.

Speaker 13 (01:12:25):
She keeps stuff, yes, And the letters and and there's
another beautiful letter from one of the Americans who finally
got back home to America, and it's to my mom
and dad, thanking them for their hospitality and how he

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missed us, especially the tooy beer.

Speaker 8 (01:12:51):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
Oh that's a real story, Jill. I really appreciate you coming.
That's marvelous. I've loved that. Thank you. Hi Katrina at
s Marcus good evening. Hey, good, thanks, Katrina.

Speaker 5 (01:13:06):
I was just ringing to stay that I'm a granddaughter
of one of those American soldiers.

Speaker 13 (01:13:11):
Wow.

Speaker 19 (01:13:12):
Yeah, my.

Speaker 5 (01:13:15):
Grandmother she was living in Masterton and they came to
town and she had my mom in nineteen forty four,
so obviously wasn't too long after the soldiers they'd been there,
and she ended up moving to America to be with

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him and had my mother and another and my auntie
had two children. So she stayed in the state for
maybe about ten years, and then they stood up and
she came back to the little old Masterton after living
in LA And then my mum as a young lady

(01:14:02):
at sort of eighteen, she got on the Oriana ship
and went and visited her father. And yeah, it's quite
quite an amazing story story.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
It's a great sty and and your mum and him
got on all right, he was that was all good.

Speaker 5 (01:14:19):
Yeah, yes, they were had a mum adored him and
he adored her. But just obviously back then they didn't
really couldn't afford to fly. And so mom, you know,
there's a photo of her on the ship, and so
that you know, she went by ship to be with him,

(01:14:40):
and then she ships back home to Masterton and that
was the last time she saw him really, And so
I never actually got to meet him. But when I
turned to any one, I flew over to LA and
I actually went to his grave and he died. Yeah,
so he died before I got to see him to

(01:15:02):
ever meet him, but I it was it was really
quite special, like to go over there, and I went
to his grave and actually found met his wife that
he was married to when he died, and she my
mom came with me and she gave mum his bible
and his medals, and and yet every blast thing she

(01:15:27):
had of his has my mother.

Speaker 2 (01:15:30):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:15:31):
So yeah, it's sort of you know, quite.

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
How old was he when he died.

Speaker 5 (01:15:39):
He would have been.

Speaker 3 (01:15:43):
In sixteenth's quite obviously quite he's quite young, Okay, yeah, yeah, young.

Speaker 5 (01:15:49):
For you know what we call old age these days.
So he might he might have he might have been seventeen,
quite remember when he's Yeah, when he died, but he
was a pilot, asider pilot, and he had carried on
flying throughout his life in the States. But yeah, sort

(01:16:09):
of a love story that didn't really work.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
Out, but well you wonder how they would work out too.
We've probably known some of for such a short amount
of time as well, and such kind of intense circumstances.

Speaker 5 (01:16:22):
Yeah, And I just think of my grandmother, like how
she was in Masterton in the forties and ended up
living in Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
Exactly what exactly.

Speaker 5 (01:16:35):
What the difference of life. So she ended up back
in Masterton, and I was actually brought up there and
went to primary school there. But yeah, I just think
what an amazing time for her to sort of, you know,
the contrast from Masterton to Los Angeles would have been unbelievable, you.

Speaker 3 (01:16:58):
Know then and pretty it's a pretty dramatic thing to
have happened to your grandmother. Did that all work out well?
I mean, to have that happen, to go over there
for teen years, need to come back to Marston with
everyone probably knowing what had happened. Was that something that
worked out well for her or did that cause her
concern or No?

Speaker 5 (01:17:15):
I think she really struggled because I don't think there
was sort of chilent support back then, so that would
have been like in the fifties. And so she worked
at at wy Wrapper College and then she worked at
the Daily Telegraph. So she had to work full time

(01:17:37):
throughout her life with her two daughters, to raise her
two daughters. So she didn't have you know, she didn't
have much. She never drove. She rode a bike everywhere,
and so yeah, so she sort of, you know, she
did it pretty tough being a single mother. It was

(01:17:59):
not not the thing, especially in a small town, and
so she never remarried or had another man in her life.

Speaker 3 (01:18:09):
Well, it's quite a story. Well did she know of
any were there anyone else? Was there anyone else in
that situation?

Speaker 5 (01:18:17):
I don't know, okay, because I was probably a bit
too young to know, you know. Yeah, if any other
you know, women of head dad has met those soldiers
that came to town. Whether, yeah, I don't know, because.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
I'm sure there'd be all sorts of I'm sure there'd
be all sorts of judgment about that as well. In
small towns too. That wouldn't make things easy.

Speaker 5 (01:18:41):
Yes, yes, And so I think that's why she ended
up sort of alone really, you.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
Know, till she.

Speaker 18 (01:18:51):
Died.

Speaker 5 (01:18:52):
But yeah, it was, Yeah, quite a story. I wish
just those moments when you're young, and I wish now
I could see her again and ask all those questions.

Speaker 3 (01:19:03):
Did you did your grandfather have any other children from
any other relatives still in America? No, that's that's the
end of the line.

Speaker 5 (01:19:09):
He never had a children here, so that was the
end of the line. But yeah, it's just such a
shame because I when she died, I was maybe when
my grandmother died of we're that eighteen, but I you know,
prior to that, you know, at that age, you just
sort of bore engrossed in your own life. I I've

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got to see her again to ask her all these questions.

Speaker 19 (01:19:34):
And was she was?

Speaker 10 (01:19:36):
She?

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
Really? Was she young when she had your was your
mother was born?

Speaker 10 (01:19:44):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:19:45):
Not like you know particularly, but yes, young. I suppose
you know, early twenties was normal.

Speaker 3 (01:19:52):
Yeah, okay in that era she wasn't, you know, not
like like a teenage, not like a teenager. Yeah, okay,
well no no, so.

Speaker 5 (01:20:02):
Yeah, I also I could have her story again now.
But and and you know, he you know, I mean
I remember him ringing on the phone and talking to Mom,
and I remember us kids all sort of wanting to
hear his American accent. And that was kind of like
the special thing when granddad rang from America because even

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in the phone calls were.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
So expensive, that's right, got to make him sure to
toll call, to to call.

Speaker 5 (01:20:33):
I can't even imagine what the price of them would
have been.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
And then I wonder what that ten years would have
been like for your mother over there with him, because
obviously it didn't work out. So I mean that would
have probably been your mother and that was in Los Angeles,
was it? You said, yes, and.

Speaker 5 (01:20:47):
Essentially so Mum. I think Mum has been torn and
still is to this day because she has decided her
that loved America and had lived there. So then when
she went back at eighteen, she went there, and I
just think the bravery of my mother and my grandmother

(01:21:07):
jump on those boats and head off to this you know,
strange land of watching belief. So we mom went. She
when it worked over there and got to know him
as an adult, and she needed like she was young,
and I think she was eighteen nineteen when she was there,

(01:21:29):
and then maybe came home when she was about twenty so,
and then got back on the ship and came all
the way back to New Zealand and went back to
Mastertown and next when she met my dad. So that
was sort of the last trip. But it was just impossible.
Once she met my dad and had us kids, there

(01:21:49):
was no holiday and to America to your father, So yeah,
quite a distance.

Speaker 3 (01:21:58):
Really, there's a lot of that story. Would be amazing
if your grandmother kept a diary, wouldn't it if you
had all that information, would all those questions would be
because you did eve think of keeping a diary because
you probably think it's not that interesting, but it's fascinating.

Speaker 5 (01:22:10):
Well, she never talked She never talked of it either,
and I think that was because she was it was,
you know, shameful to be a single mother.

Speaker 3 (01:22:19):
Yes, it wasn't that she was still wasn't that you
were still in love with him?

Speaker 9 (01:22:22):
Was she?

Speaker 3 (01:22:22):
Or that wasn't.

Speaker 5 (01:22:24):
I don't know, Okay, I think I think, I don't know.
I thought it was like homesickner. She was so far
away in the foreign place with these two children.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
Incredibly hard, yes, and then to come back.

Speaker 5 (01:22:38):
But obviously and then be sort of scorned, like for
being the single mother in the fifties with two children
that was sort of.

Speaker 15 (01:22:47):
No, not normal.

Speaker 5 (01:22:50):
So and then she worked and she was a working
man trying to raise wouldn't have heads a lot and with.

Speaker 3 (01:22:56):
No driver's license, the challenge having two kids with their drivershere.

Speaker 5 (01:23:05):
But I because we know I was young, her play
and she just fits me on the carry great. Yeah,
I mean she was the fastest woman she was doing,
you know, like she fights everywhere. So yeah, so I'd

(01:23:27):
love to know the story now, but I do feel
for my mum because I think she's sort of torn
with this American, you know, a soldier that she was
quite in awe of that be not headback around you often,
I'm going to go right.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
Up the headlines, Coatria. But thank you so much for
that story too, and telling all us all of that,
and so I've asked you any study questions. But that's
an amazing story. So thank you so much. Good evening, Carol.
It's Marcus.

Speaker 21 (01:23:56):
Marcus, the previous caller. Maybe if she takes the DNA
like I did, and I'm seventy plus open a new
world to do that, honestly anyway. But what I want
to talk to you about is just two brief stories
about the Americans at Second World War. It's about them

(01:24:20):
and chewing gum and the Scots with their bagpipes. It
was the school holidays and he exited. Look I'm still stocked.
I'd love to get this out of assistant school holidays.
And the painter who's painting our house came in for
lunch and one of the boys said to him, I'm

(01:24:43):
learning the bagpipes. Well I think this, of course he
would have had he had PTSD. You should have seen
his face. He wasn't a smiler that the painter wasn't it.

Speaker 18 (01:24:55):
But he was a.

Speaker 21 (01:24:57):
British soldiers and he was a sergeant and they was
somebody in those day're not saying they're not today. But
he was a British soldier in the Second World War,
you said, And he flipped, and I nearly tired. He said,
don't talk to me about the Scots. For their name's
McGregor me. Don't talk to me about the Scots. He said.

(01:25:19):
The enemy knew everywhere we were. He must have been
in Europe, I think. And you know during the war,
he said, Well, I didn't know the Scots played their bagpipes,
and apparently they did. And then he flipped again. Marcus
and the Americans, the Americans, he said, they had chewing gum,
chewing gum all over my camp. Not you, our camp,

(01:25:43):
my camp. And you know I never dawned on me.

Speaker 10 (01:25:47):
We grew up.

Speaker 21 (01:25:47):
It was the chewing gum era. And this is what
he said. The Americans had chewing gum all over my camp.
You can imagine it, couldn't you spitting it out?

Speaker 3 (01:25:59):
I can really imagine it. I can really amaze it.

Speaker 21 (01:26:02):
Anyway, I got another one to tell you about Cornwall Hospital.
Do you remember when you were in Auckland Cornwall Hospital
next to green Lane Hospital, which the Americans built in
nineteen forty two, Yes, you do well. I was a
junior nurse then and it was an I asked this.

Speaker 3 (01:26:22):
I wasn't born there, my brothers. I was born in
the new hospital. The new hospital was born that replaced
the old one, because that one was there the old
Field hospital, wasn't it.

Speaker 21 (01:26:30):
But I thought this was clever. The Americans built this hospital.
And I asked this question. It was one night I
was on night duting. It was rather spooky. Everything's quiet,
and I couldn't imagine why this corridor was so wide?
And do you know why it was wide? Because the
American jeeps would drive into the corridor and dropped the

(01:26:54):
patient off on the wards because the wards were to
the le I thought that was clever.

Speaker 3 (01:27:00):
It's really clever. What do you think it's really clever.

Speaker 8 (01:27:04):
I didn't know that, but that's that's true.

Speaker 21 (01:27:07):
Not I's wondering and Masterton and Met where the Americans
built any hospitals like that day.

Speaker 3 (01:27:12):
I think they were just I think they were just
camping there. I just think it was a recovery thing.
But someone else will talk more about it. Carol Butt,
thank you very much for calling. It's twenty six to
twelve eleven. Marcus, an American World War Two soldier buried
at Way Committee Is Chief is King Chief Fargo Stabler
of the Sioux Nation. He took his war ride home
to the States, but they returned to Living Point Chief
and brought up their family there. He played cowboys Indians

(01:27:35):
with their local children, provided them with chewing gum. He
took part of the Farmer's Christmas Parade, riding a horse
and full Indigenous American cheap costume. Prime Minister Muldoon attended
his funeral. The New Zealand Public Work Department built almost
without exception, all the camps and hospitals for Americans to occupy.
John My grandparents lived up the road from where the
American soldiers were staying in Hamilton during the war. There

(01:27:57):
are apparently lots of great parties that my grandparents would than.
One of my grandmother's friends had a baby to one
of the soldiers. About fifty years later, of the Americans
sold you came back to New Zealand caught up with
my grandparent. It was pretty amazing. Thank you, thank you,
Thank you. Mark's I know it's not something usually do,
but could you please wish Darren a happy birthday? He's
listening always as would make his day. Happy birthday, Darren,

(01:28:22):
and don't say something. I know it's not something usually do.
I'm always up for a shout out or a birthday request.
Thanks for the cricket updates. Marcus reigning little Akiloa. That's George.
Thank you, George. It's something that is of interest too.
When we talk about American soldiers during New Zealand and
World War Two. You might know this, but Corporal Don Adams,

(01:28:45):
who was maxwell Smart. During World War Two, he joined
the Marine Corps and participated in the Battle of Guadalcanal.
When his service ended from being shot in combat and
contracting blackwood of fever complication of malaria, he was evacuated
hospital for more than a year at a Navy hospital
in Wellington, New Zealand. After his recovery, he served as

(01:29:10):
a drill instructor. I don't know where that US Navy
hospital was, but some of you will know and let
me know about that. I don't think i'd heard about
that or knowing about that Get Smart, great face, great character.

Speaker 12 (01:29:32):
Do do do?

Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
Is that the tune? I think it was Linda. It's Marcus.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
Welcome, Hi Marcus.

Speaker 23 (01:29:40):
I was just turn on the radio and whod you
mentioned about Don Adams. My dad was in the New
Zealand Air Force and he was actually in the parachute
section at Guadalcamal and he was actually a Tenton cell
maker by trade before he joined the Air Force and
during the war, and he met up with Don Adams

(01:30:04):
and they got together and they designed in this yacht
between them, and they built the yacht and Dad made
sales out of parachutes, and they used to sail together
over in the Quada Canal. And then they both got
sick and they were both evacuated to New Zealand. Dad
had daggy fever and John ended up in the hospital.

(01:30:29):
As you mentioned. Yeah, And it was years later that
we happened to be watching Get Smart on TV and
and Dad was sitting there and they said, oh my god,
it's him and yeah, and so he made the made
the connection that it was his old mate that he
used to sail with over and yeah, over in the island.

Speaker 3 (01:30:54):
So did he reconnect with him at all? I suppose everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:30:58):
Want to know.

Speaker 23 (01:31:00):
Yeah, it was just the It was just the two
of them just happened to get together with the schools
that they had. And Dad used to be a yachtie
and so yeah, and of course DoD was and the
navy and had sailed. So the two of them got
together and Dad made the sails out of parachutes and

(01:31:21):
in a way they went, Wow, you.

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
Don't kind of imagine them having much free time there,
do you?

Speaker 5 (01:31:26):
So?

Speaker 23 (01:31:26):
I like that, Well, I think they.

Speaker 10 (01:31:30):
Must have.

Speaker 23 (01:31:31):
I know that Dad used to talk about the Americans
because they kind of been too far away from where
the New Zealanders wherein they because they said that they
were watching this citrus tree waiting for the fruit to
ripen until somebody decided that they would taste them. And

(01:31:53):
they realized that they'd been rife all the time, but
they hadn't colored because of being in the tropics.

Speaker 12 (01:32:00):
It was.

Speaker 23 (01:32:01):
Yeah, and the Americans here they just skinned the trees overnight.
So yeah, they had a lot of a lot to
do with each other.

Speaker 3 (01:32:10):
Well it's a good story. Thank you for coming through that.

Speaker 19 (01:32:12):
I like that.

Speaker 15 (01:32:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:32:14):
They become a stand up comic after World War Two,
and then of course the rest is history. Change his
name to Adams, so we at the head the list
when it came to auditions. By the way, from that
Lasco to other of course, the Polish people were at
pai Here Tour, not at Featherston. They're quite famous too,
a little Poland they called it. And of course though
people became a reinfluenial group with the New Zealand. A

(01:32:34):
lot of those people that came across there were at
pa Here Tour, the Polish refugees, Tom Good Evening, you
get Evening Markers.

Speaker 22 (01:32:44):
I was just a little guy in the nineteen forty
two and just a couple of sort of corrections. Firstly, yeah,
you've just mentioned that the Polish guys were rehabbed into
pie A tour and in the prison of war camp
with the Japanese was at Pearson and that was originally

(01:33:05):
a training camp for World War One soldiers. But in
nineteen forty two were the Americans and there were a
lot of them. I don't know exactly how many, but
at least a thousand. They were camped at Solway, which
is where the showgrounds are, and we had three of
them billeted at home. My old man was overseas up

(01:33:27):
in the islands, and we had these three American guys
here and I was only a little black and I
can remember obviously there weren't many men around them days
because they were all all overseas and these they were
just probably just young marines, and they looked huge fellas
to me. They were very big, and I remember them,
you know, shooting rabbits and things. So that was back then.

(01:33:51):
They actually signed the Visitors Book, and I've often thought
that I should try and track them down with all
the modern technique that we've got these days, to see
where their families are still alive. They won't be, of course,
but you never know.

Speaker 3 (01:34:05):
So they signed the Visiting Book your house.

Speaker 22 (01:34:06):
Is that what you're saying, Yes, yeah, yeah, we're.

Speaker 3 (01:34:10):
Talking to a number of people tonight that had there
a sort of situation. Of course, some of them would
have gone from there, gone back into combat as well.

Speaker 15 (01:34:17):
Well.

Speaker 22 (01:34:18):
They were all here, I think, in my understanding was
that they were here sort of on before they headed
off to Guada Canal.

Speaker 3 (01:34:25):
That's right, they've been at Guada Canal. They're going back
to Guida Canal. So some of those people, PEPs could
not have survived as well.

Speaker 22 (01:34:32):
I'm afraid that would be the case here. The losses
up there were pretty horrendous here.

Speaker 3 (01:34:35):
Exactly. Yeah, anyway, so does it does? And you're still
in Masterton?

Speaker 22 (01:34:40):
Are you well out of Mastard in the year okay,
the twenty case out of Masterden, But is there's.

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
Still any acknowledgment of that time and their soldiers there?

Speaker 22 (01:34:51):
Not so much at Solway, although I think that there's
a this. We've got a guy and who writes for
the local paper and he writes these part of the
archives and there, you know, they do a great job.
They put in some some great articles and I think
there's some. I haven't been to the Sways Aragons recently,
but I'm just not sure whether there's some recognition of

(01:35:13):
them there this Sydney is.

Speaker 3 (01:35:15):
I think a guy that's written a book has just
put has just put a plaque. There were memorial there.

Speaker 2 (01:35:20):
Moment.

Speaker 3 (01:35:20):
I think it's just happening almost content contraneously.

Speaker 22 (01:35:24):
Yeah, I guess that's right.

Speaker 3 (01:35:25):
Is nice to talk Tom. Thank you. Eight past eleven, Gwyneth.
It's Marcus, Hello Island.

Speaker 20 (01:35:31):
Marcus. I just wanted to bring you up to tell
you that there was also an American camp pat at
Glenn Massey. Do you know where that is?

Speaker 3 (01:35:42):
Is it in the North White Cato? Is it where
we're talking?

Speaker 20 (01:35:45):
Yeah, we're going out towards Freglin.

Speaker 15 (01:35:47):
Yeah, okay, yeah it was.

Speaker 20 (01:35:49):
It's just out from Narrawahia. A lot of people don't
know that there was an American camp there and the
Marines occupied it and they did all their island hopping
training out on beaches out Raglan Way, Materira and out

(01:36:10):
there before going over So he's over to God God.

Speaker 3 (01:36:19):
Now I wonder why they put them there was the
room for accommodation for them, and.

Speaker 20 (01:36:23):
What was it they made the camp in the old
h what do you call it? Pottery in the old
pottery yep? Placed there England. That's a year. But they
were strategic there really because on that road there was

(01:36:46):
the Hope Hoover Camp, the Tirapa Camp en Force camp
and so they were in a good position if the
Japs came in through Ragland, yes, because they suspected of
them coming in through Ragland through up Northland. You know,
they didn't know where they were going to actually come in.

(01:37:09):
They were just there, well, they were there to do
their island hopping training. That's why they were there.

Speaker 3 (01:37:18):
Well, and you've lived there always is that we've always been.

Speaker 20 (01:37:22):
Well, that's where I grew up.

Speaker 3 (01:37:25):
Yeah, no, okay, thank you, Gwyneth Shanan. Didn't convert us
all to baseball. That's my concern. Twenty nine away from
twelve one seven, nine for four. It's been a goodish session,
forty two overs. We certainly lead one seven nine for four,
a fairly goodly turning eighty two runs. Get it to
five hundred that I'll be happy, good evening, John AT's Marcus.

Speaker 16 (01:37:47):
Hello, Hello Marcus.

Speaker 15 (01:37:51):
Well, my mother worked in a hospital in Wellington which
was for the American Navy. It was Lower Hut Hospital.
It was set up. Lower Hart Hospital was set up
specifically to look at of the Marines who were based
at Pikockareki when the main marine base in New Zealand

(01:38:15):
was at Pikockareki and Lower Hut Hospital was created by
the New Zealand government to look after the Marines and
the nurses there became specialists in tropical diseases because that
was the main thing that the Marines faced. In fact,
I remember my mother saying there were more marines taken

(01:38:37):
out of action by diseases tropical diseases than were killed
by the Japanese.

Speaker 3 (01:38:43):
Yes, sure, wow.

Speaker 15 (01:38:46):
And the reason the Marines went to New Zealand was
that the Marines took the view that Australia was likely
to fall to their Japanese, so they didn't want to
have their base in Australia. And it was only when
Douglas MacArthur, who was not a Marine, he was the
American Army commander, he came out a little later and

(01:39:06):
said We're not going to surrender Australia. We're going to fight.
I'm not going after Australia. So the American Army was
mainly based in New South Wales. That the Marines decided
to base themselves in New Zealand because they took a
more pessimistic view on how they were going to defeat

(01:39:27):
the Japanese.

Speaker 3 (01:39:29):
And am I right in thinking that hospital that the
government built would be called Silverstream Hospital?

Speaker 15 (01:39:35):
No, No, it's right down in the center of Lower
hatt Still big hospital.

Speaker 3 (01:39:40):
Because I see there was, because there was a big history.
There was a big hospital at Silverstream also built by
the government. Yes, I don't know about four four American troops.
I think there was one that Eleanor Roosevelt came to
that was the one that Don Adams was at, called
Silverstream Hospital. It says, well, yeah, yeah, I didn't know that.

Speaker 15 (01:40:05):
Certainly, Lower Hut Hospital was the one that my mother
worked in, and it was created specifically for that. Another
interesting little thing was, of course, the war ended very
suddenly with the atomic bomb, and nobody expected the water
end so quickly and quite suddenly. All those marines just

(01:40:25):
went home, and the hospital had a staff full of
people who were experts in tropical diseases, but no patients.
So the New Zealand government decided to lend the staff
to Pacific island countries, and my mother went and worked

(01:40:48):
as a barefoot doctor in Fiji, and other staff went
to places like Indonesia and other islands in the Pacific
to utilize the skills they got in dealing with tropical diseases.

Speaker 3 (01:41:03):
Well, that's some good thing that's come from it, I suppose,
thank you very much for that. Twenty five to twelve
oh eight hundred eighty ten. If you're online there, hold on,
we'll get to you soon. Oh eight hundred eighty thaty
and nine two ninety two to text. There's a good
website pages. This one's called US Marines and using in
nineteen forty two to nineteen forty four. It's a fairy
fulsome website. It does say Silverstream Hospital provide of the

(01:41:26):
main hospital services Marines and other US personnel stationed in
the lower half of North Island. Sixteen hundred Beard Hospital
in thisw she referred to as US Navy Hospital Hospital
number six and upgraded to US Navy based Hospital number four.
Twenty thousand patients using silver Stream over the twenty one
months that operated. And it's Marcus, good evening and.

Speaker 12 (01:41:49):
Welcome, Oh good evening, Marcus. Yes, I can remember the
Americans coming to Papacoura. I would have been about for
three and four and five years old, and they came
to Papacouh and they had a camp on a Ponga Road,
and they had one down Open Hecky Road and one

(01:42:11):
in Drewery. And they used to come to our place
on a Friday night and play cards with Dad. And
Mom used to do their ironing for them. But they
were very generous people and they used to shower us
with stubbly gifts. And I can remember the red chewing
gum they used to have and they used to give

(01:42:33):
this to these packets of red chewing gum, and then
there'd be little blue boxes of nuts, and being only
three and four where we just loved them. And we
used to go undneath the house and eat these boxes
of nuts. But they used to come to every Friday
night or most Friday nights and played poker with Dad.

(01:42:57):
We used to wander the money.

Speaker 3 (01:42:59):
I wonder how all that was organized. I guess people
were just volunteer.

Speaker 12 (01:43:02):
A well, yes, well they actually just walked past our
gate all the time because the other Hecky railway station
was just down the road and that's used to travel
in and out by train a los and but no,
they were very generous with their gifts and what they
used to bring us. And we used to hang over

(01:43:23):
the gates because we were scared the Japanese had come
around the corner and we'd run inside, scared stiff, the
Japanese are coming, and then the next thing there would
be Americans walking past.

Speaker 3 (01:43:35):
Must be it must have been terrifying.

Speaker 12 (01:43:38):
Well, yes, well we actually tried to speak Japanese, but
we couldn't. We pretended we could. No, it was, it was,
and it was lovely when they used to come and
play cards and sometimes come for a meal, and Mum
used to have this big pile of ironing done for them.

Speaker 3 (01:43:55):
Nice to hear from you, and thank you so much that.
By the way, there has been a book in the
cricket not a good one. Tom Latham out for eighty
six lbw Bold Washington. This guy Washington seems good every
time I look up at Washington Bowld. Someone Phillips is
in Blundle on twenty four footy nine balls. He's in
one eight three for five lead by two eight six.

(01:44:15):
Hello enit's Marcus.

Speaker 2 (01:44:17):
Welcome living Marcus. I trust your world.

Speaker 3 (01:44:20):
Yes, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:44:21):
Ian Well, I'm an I'm an old Gore boy, but
I live up and I live up in Auckland.

Speaker 3 (01:44:26):
Goodness.

Speaker 2 (01:44:28):
I run the Corraka War Memorial Hall, and it was
it was built just after the war. And we've got
a big rock in the front of it with a
with a with a you know, inscription on it given
to the people of Karaka for their services to the
American services during the war. Okay, and also added Tahiti

(01:44:52):
they had an aerodrome.

Speaker 3 (01:44:54):
Yep, yeah, I have I have discussed that at some length.
That's a pretty amazing story that one, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:01):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:45:02):
So the war, the war, the Karaka War Memorial Hall
that was a gift from the Americans or dedicated to
the Americans.

Speaker 2 (01:45:09):
It was just dedicated to them, to them, it's there's
there's there's quite a lot of crack cracker men that
were that never came back from the war, and of
course there's a big plaque on the wall for them
as well.

Speaker 8 (01:45:24):
It looks like it.

Speaker 3 (01:45:24):
Looks like a tough kind of a hall. So it
looks like it's a fairy, busy hall to manage. They're
old Ian.

Speaker 2 (01:45:31):
It's it's used every day.

Speaker 3 (01:45:34):
I'm looking at the fellows a lot of Indian weddings
and Dwali and all sorts of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:45:39):
I took an order today, booking today for November next year.
So let's how busy the hall is.

Speaker 3 (01:45:47):
It's what's a good looking hall. It's it's functional, it's tidy,
it's clean, looks like it's got a good kitchen, fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:45:55):
It's got a good man operating it to good committee.

Speaker 3 (01:45:59):
Who what's the legit? Are they owned by the local
council or is it its own trust.

Speaker 2 (01:46:06):
It's a it's a community hall. It was built by
the community for the community, but going through the like
seventy five years now it's been up and of course
the community couldn't look after it, so they gave the
hall to the council.

Speaker 10 (01:46:24):
But we.

Speaker 2 (01:46:26):
We get a very small donation from the council once
a year. We get nothing this year because of the
things I had so but no, no, it's well looked
after and it's fully booked all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:46:38):
Are you in love with those egga panthers out in
the beckle out the front door? Could you get rid
of those?

Speaker 2 (01:46:42):
They've gone?

Speaker 3 (01:46:43):
Matey, God, I hate panthers. Must have been on fire.
I'm looking at what what did your plant instead in?

Speaker 19 (01:46:51):
Just lord?

Speaker 3 (01:46:51):
Oh god, that's the answer. You're a good man, brilliant.
He always destroys a photo for me. If I see
egga panthers, ghastly things. Don think they banned down south?
You see people planning them quite a lot terrible things,
it'll be my bumper sticker. It's good, good hall, really

(01:47:11):
good haul love a hall. What interesting night tonight thanks
to all the callers. We are camping in KTERI up
in the Luton in the camper van. The rain is
pouring down about six inches away from my head, but
can't turn off the radio. So good. We play cars
at your show often, especially in camping. Thank you for that.

(01:47:32):
Hello Donald, it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 5 (01:47:34):
Gooday.

Speaker 14 (01:47:35):
I don't I'm on the west side of the North Island.
But my grandmother and father told me for years going
and out of Wellington that as you came into Wellington
before the motorway car through through the valley at the
back there you came along the coast there and between
the picton ferry and the stadium. Now is Waterloo Key? Sorry,
it might be at at Renames. I think it's at

(01:47:57):
a Key. And for years there opposite where all the
coke cruise boats full on their sideways, there was a
long low building that looked like it was temporary. Had
looked about it like a long school classroom thing, and
there was as best as I believe, it was put
up in a hurry during the war, and it was
a hospital. So it's right on we say, Atakey, opposite
where you look out onto where the line is full

(01:48:18):
up today, and it had a fire. It lasted well
into the sixth season, was a fire there. There's now
a roundabout through the Wellington Railway yards. I believe that
was a hospital for a top for servicemen. Also there
was silver Stream Hospital, actually I was years later, I
believe became a senior person's home and it was always
rather run down and wasn't particularly well regarded as for
its condition. Hus Hospital was a general hospital open in

(01:48:40):
nineteen forty three. I don't know about the American aspect there.
This is a bit all my time. It was also
huge camps for Americans at Pipakerrechi obviously and memorials there,
and there was also they were also stationed at a
place called Anderson Park, which is on the left as
you go up Bowen Street to go towards Cororian Botanical Gardens.
It's now a cricket ground. I believe that was full

(01:49:03):
of American servicemen, so that might be where they name
Anderson came from and there I think they were also
at Trents and Camp. But I know that some American
soldiers were marched from Pycock Ereki up to Foxton.

Speaker 8 (01:49:15):
I believe.

Speaker 14 (01:49:16):
I don't know where they did it both ways, but
they certainly marched as far as Foxton, which is quite
a distance. My grandmother mentioned she died in sixty four
when I was fourteen, that she had American servicemen around
for Sunday lunches sometimes and she lived and lived in here.
That's my knowledge of If you want to see some
superb shops of Wellington during the war and great big
brown Sepia photos hugely enlarged with three or four feet

(01:49:37):
by about five feet, they're in the McDonald's opposite Wellington
Railway Station. The shops of Wellington during the war and
one of the station being built about nineteen thirty six
minutes only party built an American serviceman in the war.
They're great pictures are in McDonald's opposite Wellington Station and
Bunny Street.

Speaker 16 (01:49:54):
They're well worth a look.

Speaker 3 (01:49:55):
Appreciate.

Speaker 15 (01:49:56):
They don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:49:56):
I have just been there recently, didn't even notice them,
but thank you. There's a text from someone that says,
can you ask donald had they finally got the clock
at Parvison North Hospital? Please well, I top all all
my strength when he meets in the silver Stream Hospital
is having a surprise. You an't going to check out
the clock, don't mention the clock. Very good.

Speaker 1 (01:50:20):
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