The rabbits of the sky (10 July 2024)

Marcus talks about the Canada Geese problem plaguing the waterways and farmland of Canterbury (and, as it turns out, everywhere else as well).

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus lush Night's podcast from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
I'd be.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Greetings, welcome, myname is Marcus. Here till midnight tonight Wednesday,
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know what I mean, if you're not going to help
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(00:35):
or whatever, that's not not being too arduous. A couple
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(00:55):
let us know. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
nine two nine, text them or call them. So if
you have got breaking news, so yeah, eight hundred and
eighty eighty nine nine to detext here's something they hadn't
thought of talking about. Was just popped up in my alerts.

(01:16):
Calls have been made to make the over populating Canadian
geese pests and artierroa three News Reportagillian Speedy says the
species has become a pooping poleesta, a pooping polluting pest
and parks in the city and by the rivers in
Canterbury and fed farmers said they can do a significant

(01:39):
amount of damage. Four thousand air hectare of damage they
could do and that could be overnight. You get only
one chance of growing the crop for the year. How
much would they eat? Well, they eat more than a sheep,
or the same as his sheep, or half a sheep.
But they're big units. I don't know if they're good eating.
I wouldn't mind talking about Canada geese. I know in

(02:00):
the past there have been cuhls, and some of those
have been deemed to be cruel. I think someone drove
into them with jet boat or something like that, which
no one thinks is a good idea. But yeah, if
they're going to get declared a pest, I then wonder
what happened and what's going to change. What legislation have
they got and how would they address things. They call

(02:23):
them the rabbit of the sky. It's a great expression.
The rabbit of the sky. Make sure I'll say that
number of times one goose a quart of a sheep.
Four geese one sheep. That's the equivalence. The rabbits of
the sky apparently live in a gray area. No one's

(02:44):
taking the lead to get rid of them. Now here's
something to and buckle yourselves up. They are aggressive, they
are territorial. But the staggering thing is, and here's something
don't google it, but how much excreted do you think

(03:05):
each goose would produce a day? Wow, they must have
very inefficient diet or they're not getting much out of
the grass they eat. Is it grass? I presume it is.
How much do you think they excrete? It's an extraordinary amount.

(03:27):
They also pose a threat to aircrafts. Mm. There you go.
And I don't know why. It's just a problem in Canterbury.
We've got any Canada geese experts out there, I'd like
to talk about this. And I presume they're from Canada.
I've been much more aware of them since the quake.

(03:49):
I don't know that to think. I don't know when
they came to christ Juction when they became it, or
Canterbury when they became a big deal. If you are
an expert on Canada geese, let's write in the bread
bastard of what I'd like to talk about. Wow, the
rabbits of the sky. Never heard them call that? Of
course they call the pigeons the rats of the sky.

(04:11):
But the Canada geese the sheep of the sky. Let's
be hearing from you if you want to talk about
those eight hundred eighty eight ten eighty nine nine two
text geese. Canada geese and what needs to happen to those?
I presume they're not good eating, and I presume they're

(04:31):
not exciting hunting because they're so big, and I imagine
easy to kill.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Is that right?

Speaker 3 (04:36):
You got something to say about this? I'm willing for this.
Eight hundred eighty eight Addy text calls Yeah, I'm liking
this as a topic. Actually factually the sheep of the sky.
And how much do you think they excrete? One Canada goose?
And I'll give you a clue, it's more than I thought.

(05:03):
I'll never get the time that one. At the time
I hit one on the highway and people sought after.
I think their feathers are quite good for cottaway. I
think people went back and got the feathers which are
surprised by Oh, rabbit to the sky, sheep of the sky. Exactly,
there we go, Yeah, ditch, Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
Good Ay Marcus, how are you going good?

Speaker 3 (05:24):
That's good, ditch.

Speaker 5 (05:25):
I'm just driving home from a well, going between rabbit
jobs at the moment, and I do. I do a
lot of Canada geese work throughout the year, so I'm
fascinated by your topic. You're in Canterbury, No, I'm in
the Auckland region.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Oh really, okay.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
Yeah, and Canada geese are a huge problem up here.
It's nice to see your discussion starting finally around Canada's
since when Look, the numbers have been building rapidly in
the last thirty forty years. We now have Canada geese
where we didn't have them in such numbers thirty years ago.

Speaker 6 (06:01):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
And the hunters like them. They're worth eating.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
I wouldn't bother.

Speaker 5 (06:08):
I've done thousands of them, and I would certainly not
eat Canada's. It sort of looks a bit like beef
and smells a bit fishy.

Speaker 6 (06:16):
They're they're not a clean bird to be near.

Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yeah, sure, yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
They always give you that impression that they're quite a
foul animal are always dirty, and when you handle big
numbers of them, you feel a bit yet to be honest, Yeah, okay,
it's a shame to see such big numbers wasted, but
the reality is the numbers are so big, massive numbers
have to be could to get on top of them.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Well, are you talking about what is it? Farms near
rivers and histuaries?

Speaker 5 (06:42):
Yeah, and any sort of government owned water bodies. A
lot of our dams have Canada bees issue.

Speaker 3 (06:47):
Okay, so look look like in the white tarkanis and
who know a dam's places around there? They be Canada's
I'm calling them that.

Speaker 5 (06:53):
Now, absolutely, and a very famous flock which I've worked
with at Rosedale on the northern end of the Auckland
City Motorway system. On the north shore side, there are
peninsula on all. Pretty much every water body I look
at now has Canadas on it for at least part
of the year.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Okay. Do they affect the other birds? They scare the
other birds away?

Speaker 5 (07:16):
No, not that I've seen. Where you see them, you
tend to see a conglomerate of all water birds, but
Canadas are always by far the most humorous one. Site
I work in South Auckland at Pocacoe. You know, there
might be three thousand other species over the combined area,
and there might be up to five or six thousand
Canadas and that same site.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
What needs to be done? I mean, if they declared
them a pest, I mean, does what is legislation going
to change? What is that going to mean?

Speaker 5 (07:46):
Okay, So they used to be on the game bird schedule,
which meant you're only allowed to kill a certain number
at a certain time of the year. When the population
started getting really out of hand, that was shifted and
they were taken off the game bird schedule. So an
unprotected animal under the Wildlife Act, which allows you to
control them year round, turns out there's only really one
one or two ways to really seriously control them. Historically,

(08:08):
they've always been shot because they were a game bird
with a shotgun, and that's just not effective on a
flock of three hundred birds. And even if you've got
ten guys all camoed up and going keen, you're never
going to kill enough of them to make a difference.
I started work on them about twenty five years ago,
and I started doing them on the water during the
malt so it is at a period towards the end

(08:29):
of the year. It used to be in October, Now
it's moved all the way through to March. With the
climate changes. They're on the water and they lose all
of their feathers and they can't fly, and it's a
really good time to bag them all in one go.
As discussing a job as it is, it's not a
pleasant job at all. If you need to take out
a massive flock of Canadas, that's a very good way.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
To do it, and that is legal now to do that?
Is that what you're saying? You can do that now
anyway that.

Speaker 5 (08:56):
Is currently legal. So you ask, you know, what would
changing the legislation to declare them my pest do? I
guess it would open up funding avenues and certainly up
discussion and more importantly, research issues around Okay, if we're
now responsible for controlling them, what is the very best
way to do that? And then you start to see
all the different methods from around the world come together

(09:18):
and you end up with a handful of usefuls.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Do you know what they are? Is there some sort
of bio weapon or anything they can use?

Speaker 5 (09:25):
No, but flocking birds? You know, they all gather in
the same place at various times throughout the year. So
if you've got a method that can address them all,
then and you know a point that they're using, and
there has been research in the last few years on
the movements of Canada's around the Auckland region, you know
that the options are going as passive as you can
and feeding them all something and then either penning and trapping,

(09:49):
which leaves you with a whole bunch of live geese
that have then got to be managed so you can
herd them in Canada. They heard them while they're in
the molt and they can't fly.

Speaker 7 (09:57):
They heard them.

Speaker 5 (09:57):
Into pens and can you imagine how gruesome a task
that would be?

Speaker 3 (10:01):
And then exterminate it. Are you guys happy with the
sorts of fire arms that are required? Do you need
the multiple shot ones that you can't get any more of?
You up special legislation for that sort of arsenal.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
Doing them, doing them as I have been with a
semi automatic twenty two that is still legal under all
the arms changes. People will have other firearms that they
choose for whatever reason, to use on them. But I
find small and quiet the least disruption to everybody there,
and you can just quietly work your way through quite

(10:35):
a significant number at a time.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
So it sounds like you don't like them, is that right?

Speaker 6 (10:40):
Look, I love.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
All animals, but I have to be honest, and every
time I handle big numbers of canadas, I get really
yupped out. They're a gross animal.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
They live on.

Speaker 5 (10:51):
They're often on stagnant water. They're always a bit dirty,
they're always very poopy. They are a very messy bird.
And the real problem with canadas, I mean, other than
the year round damage to various crops, is when they
come out of that molting period, they've lost two thirds
of their body weight over about a sort of six
or eight week molt, will they put one hundred percent

(11:12):
of that body weight back on inside about ten or
twelve days from the paddocks adjacent to where they've molted.
And that's where you see. I've never actually asked myself
what the comparison is between how much of goose seats
and how much a sheep eats. I would put it
at a quarter. I think you were on the monet.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah, yeah, So that's just that's just straight past you
to go well after the I'll go straight to the
grass and just need it all, Is that right?

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (11:35):
Absolutely, and they'll clean out paddock after paddock.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, you can't really, you can't fence them out.

Speaker 5 (11:42):
Pandemic to hair.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
I can't fence them out, can you?

Speaker 8 (11:46):
What's that?

Speaker 5 (11:46):
Sorry?

Speaker 3 (11:47):
You can't fence them out between those and wallabies, they'll
take over.

Speaker 9 (11:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (11:51):
Look, if if i'd say, if you're looking at fencing
a bird that can't fly for only a very small
water of the year out and you're barking up the
wrong tree, it's going to end up in that paddock.

Speaker 3 (12:03):
But really good to really good to hear from here,
because look, I don't think well, I don't know that
I've seen a lot in Auckland, but maybe I'm not
looking out for them because they've got that very very
common sort of chin strap white thing and they're every
easy recognize, aren't they. They're going to be one thing.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
Well, they are, but they're also a bird that we
would definitely call quite cryptic. They can vanish in nothing
when they nest out in the paddocks. They're nests individuals.
And I see them because I I search paddocks at
night doing rabbit work and they lay down like a
snake in the grass. They are a very cryptic animal
when they want to be and when they know what
you're up to. Man, do they know how to hide?

(12:39):
You know, when you've got reeds and things. Canadas are notorious.
It just vanishing and you're going, heck, I know there's
eighty birds here somewhere.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
You know, woll look really great to talk to you.
Thanks so much for that. By the way, the birds
are four and a half kilos. Their excret is a
kilo a day, so they're excreading twenty percent of their
body mess, which is a lot. And that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (12:58):
I mean.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
I'm spending time in christ did to know up the
avon everywhere it's kind of a it's kind of a
liquid mess to it. I don't like talk about it,
but it's not pleasant. I haven't noticed them in Southland.
I mean, I've got to make it's a hardcore birder.
But yeah, I look at the lagoons on the way
to work. There's a lot of plovers, there's a lot

(13:19):
of spoon builds. There's also a lot of shags, a
lot of voice to I don't see a lot of
Canadas because we're right by the water. A lot of
birds outside the house from time to time. In fact,
we get the photographers coming for the turns, the hardcore
birders with their big lenses. I said of the kids,
hardcore birders. Someone says, why not dehydrate their meat package

(13:44):
it into cheap cat and dog treats. Don't know you
could do that. I mean you're free too. Two geese
is one sheep on a grass consumption Marcus. This is
one of the downsides of fencing off waterways that encourages
wild fowl, increase the spread of salmonella and eke ole.
This is Canadian geese pukikos, all types of wild fowl.

(14:04):
The dead geese could be used as food. We have
Canada geese here in South Taranaki. They are like a
plague downe in the Mackenzie Country. The local farmers are
over them. They sour paddocks with their excrement. They sour
paddocks with their excrement. Goodness, huge problem in the high country.

(14:28):
Station did quite clean off the water, Marcus. The geese
go great in a que and meat product like bear
sticks or salami. Underrated, Marcus. Pukicko should be a pest
to make a mess. The underground Chicken of the sky.
We're all about the geese, or the Canadas as they

(14:48):
call them already. I'm calling them Canada's because that guy
knew what he was on about at the jeepers creepers.
But that's the thing. That's the thing about a non
curated talk. You could have an interview. Shake has spend
three days chasing that guy wouldn't get anyone as good
as a ditch first came off the rank flip right
in the bread basketball. We're on about ditch hiding like snakes.

(15:10):
Wonder what his dreams are like? Did you think where
that when Ditch was talking out there at night? I reckon,
I've been no good at that stuff. You'd start getting possessed,
you'd start anyway. I don't know what you'd start doing. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty. It's all about the geese, the
Canada geese. They've been here since nineteen oh five. Nineteen

(15:37):
oh five, that's how long we've been here. Wide spread
in the South Island and Pastal areas of the eastern
Fiddles of the Southern Alps. Their distribution is expanding in
Field and in Southland. In the North Island, distribution still

(15:59):
a flex locations of which birds were released during the
past thirty years. Although this looks behind. See the total
populations around sixty thousand, so it's not that many. Yeah, herbivores,
aren't We all prefer the sugar laiden bases of short

(16:21):
grasses partial to clover on the water. They agnible it
seed heads of marginal siedges. Who'd want to be a
marginal siedge. We are talking all about the Canada geese tonight.
The number is eight hundred and eighty ten eighty nine
nine detext and Mario calls will be great. Some of
your cockies, let us know what's happening with that. You

(16:42):
might be making salami about them. They would have flown here,
by the way, I mean they would have. Someone says,
any idea how the Canadas arrived fly er introduced They
would have been introduced for game. I would think Marcus
Carpeti has a massive issue with Canadian geese. They do

(17:04):
cull them sometimes they destroy trees and up streams. They
turned playgrounds with a water feature into a disgusting mess. Wow,
I can imagine that day.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
Flup.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
That's not what you want. Text of the night. This
is the text of the night, Marcus, what's all this
Canadian goose talk? Aboot? This is a good text. The
number you have text is no longer a use Please
check and try again. You've not been built for this message.
We're all at the Canada geaest tonight. But as soon

(17:41):
as the guy said ditch not, Chris talked about handling them.
They're a filthy bird. A you don't want to cat.
You don't want Tony Colai Solami or a campaigler back
to cherizo. Wow, the big units one if they've killed
anyone like you get sometimes you you're out boating, like

(18:04):
up a river and a canonel hitch. They'll come close.
They fly low. A lot of people want to feed
them to dogs. They get rid of all the feathers.
It's probably hard to process most of the weight. It's
probably feathers. Would you want to do that? I don't know. Well,
Fancy did say you could heard them. Wow, they can't

(18:27):
fly when they're on the malt lot to digest from
that call. Actually, it's all about the Canada geese tonight.
Where do you see them? They're taken over your farmer,
They destroyed your backyard and your waterway. And your water feature.
Good evening, Colin, it's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 6 (18:45):
Good he here you go.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Good Colin.

Speaker 6 (18:47):
Hey, I don't know whether you've talked about this, but
they're looked out as species A. But they used to
open them up every now and then going up to
Lake Rodowiti and you're going from Warden up the back
road and go up through there, yep. And there were
thousands of them there. A couple of mates of mine

(19:07):
when I was there. They used to go up there
and they just shoot hundreds.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Of them, and I imagine that's probably not that enjoyable,
is it.

Speaker 6 (19:16):
Well, no, one of the boys he had a heart attack.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Actually, superscreepers, that's a sentence. You said. They're well, what
would that.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
He did?

Speaker 6 (19:27):
Honestly, But they used to go and stand a hut
up there and shoot them. They just shoot them by
the hundreds in the weekend. And they said it was
just amazing, you know, these damn things just came out
of everywhere.

Speaker 10 (19:38):
And they were right up.

Speaker 6 (19:40):
Between that ward road at the back rode going right
up to him now yep, And they were sort of
halfway up there, and it was just amazing. And I've
driven that road and I've actually seen them sitting in
the paddock there and yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Yeah, I imagine too. Once you start seeing them, you
probably see them everywhere. Ruins the countryside for you.

Speaker 6 (20:01):
Ah yeah, but they're only a bird.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
They'll be right.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
Well, I reckon for your farmer growing wheat or barley
or something, and they come in there and eat your
whole crop. It's like the Bible with the locusts.

Speaker 6 (20:14):
Yeah, but hang on. They're leaving a kilo of fertilizer behind.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
No, apparently it's the wrong. Apparently it's so sour and
strong it just kind of turns everything. It's not good fertilizer.
I don't I don't know.

Speaker 6 (20:26):
Okay, okay, so okay, that's nothing grows.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah, that's right. It kills the soil, so it's probably
too liquid.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Who imported them?

Speaker 6 (20:36):
Why were they imported to New Zealand?

Speaker 10 (20:38):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (20:38):
Why is everyone imported into news in for game birds
sort of their game Bird Association or some idiots they
thought it'd be fun to go and hunt them. They
had no idea there'd be no predators for them, and
they'd go like topsy.

Speaker 6 (20:51):
I think they still have that open weekend up there,
going up to the lake up to the hemelet you know,
through there to the hamlet. Yeah, they came late.

Speaker 3 (21:01):
They came in nineteen oh five. A lot of the
stuff came earlier. Yeah, okay, it was introduced as a
game bird in nineteen oh five.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (21:12):
Well, Pete when he said he used to go out there,
he said, you'd shoot them, but you'd grab a hold
of them around the neck and sort of hear them
over your shoulder. But you couldn't carry them farther because
I used you know, like heavy.

Speaker 3 (21:23):
Yeah, well the five and a half kilos, five of those,
it's twenty five kilos and there'd be an awkward thing
to carry too, Yeah, fether.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
And carry out. So you didn't shoot me any before
the first day because you're having a feast. And then
after that boom, you tewed him out of the sky.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
Is this the guy that had the heart attack?

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (21:41):
Yeah, that was Pete.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
Is he still with us?

Speaker 6 (21:44):
No, he's not.

Speaker 3 (21:46):
Did he go he died that weekend?

Speaker 6 (21:49):
Yeah, after that weekend he came out. They brought him
out in an ambulance and yeah, he didn't survive it.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Weeks later.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
Oh hell, call it whate that's a sad story, Colin,
but thank you for that. Cheefers anyway, wait ten and
eight to you tell you? And nine I don't have
to either. Is there any good? That's probably only upside
I thought for you Cotaway North and they're emerging as
a threat. It's not the wallab easy to be the geese.
The Canadas will get you. Franketts, Marcus welcome, Hello, Yeah, Hi,

(22:22):
Franket's Marcus good.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
Yeah, Marcus. Yeah, just something a little bit that's not
the same thing. But about the Canadian geese, I think
they were they the geese that brought that. I think
it was an earbus down onto the Hudson River.

Speaker 3 (22:37):
That's right without Scully.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
Yeah, I think the film was made. I think Tom
Hanks took the took his the captain. But yeah, so
and that was everybody was got off that plane because
it didn't sink for for some time. But yeah, so
there's just something about these geese that, yeah, and not.

Speaker 3 (23:06):
Do we don't know yet what brought what is strike
that plane taking out of Queenstown. Do we that was
Canada geese or that was.

Speaker 11 (23:16):
If that was ducks, I think they were ducks, the
Canadian the Canada geese, I think what happened with those
and those I think that the engines were they just
mashed them up in the engines and of course the
the turbines were clogged, and then the engines just stopped.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
And it was a miraculous piece of flying. It was
brilliant and he was able to the day. The weather
was good, the water wasn't choppy was Landing a plane
on water is very very It's very hard to do
because the tam sheer will shew, you'll turn over shell.

Speaker 12 (23:49):
Looks but.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Very really to planes land on water. Sorry, it happens
very really too with mid with planes landing on water.

Speaker 4 (24:01):
Yeah, there are certain planes, like the Catalina planes. They
will land the normal plane. The sea has to be
really flat or also overturned.

Speaker 12 (24:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
So, but that was a very miraculous piece of flying. Brilliant.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Are you are you seeing them where you are?

Speaker 4 (24:22):
I know I'm in Papakura, so I haven't seen them.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
No, Okay, we'll get more information, thanks, Frank. It's all
about the Canada's to that Canada geese. Yeah, where are
you seeing them? And how bad are they? It's what
I thought was quite telling when they talk about kids
pond with a water feature and all around the Avon too,
because they have got beautiful parkways and walkways now. But this
kind of they do make it unpleasant because you can't
go You can't go out and wait and forget it,

(24:48):
or use the old high pressure hose every day, but
you need to terrible. I don't know what the solution is,
but I did sound about Crawley shooting them on the
malt on the lake. It's his job, though, tough man
than me. Twenty one away from nine mane of is

(25:08):
Marcus welcome, Oh eight hundred eighty Today it's all about
the malt and the geese, the Canada geese. You want
to come through who I'll keep you updated other news
throughout the course of the evening. But I'm excited about
this as a topic. Actually, fields aren't a new territory here.

(25:32):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty nine to nine two
to text. Let's be hearing from him. You'vet anything to add,
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine two nine
two to text. So that's what we're about tonight. Kirs
Starm has arrived in Washington to meet Biden. I guess
he'll get more than a pull side yep. Now, I

(25:58):
think Trump has challenged Biden to a game of golf
with a million dollars prize with ten point ten stroke
count each way, which explained is twenty strokes for those
that don't know golf. I'd watch it. I'd actually watch

(26:20):
it with Trump cheating and I don't know what Biden
would be doing, but anyway, I think it's worth doing.
Getting touched. My name is Marcus Hitt, twelve o'clock, looking
forward to what you've got to say. It's all about
the geese, the Canada geese eight hundred and eighty ten

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eighty and nine to nine to text. Hittle, twelve o'clock.
Keep those texts coming. Also, nine two nine was the
text number. So first we had the problem with the Wallabies,
and now it's to Canada geese. Cheapers wade as much

(27:06):
like call them the rabbits of the sky. Rabbits aren't
a problem anymore. The geese had beating them to the grass. Jim, Marcus, welcome,
good evening.

Speaker 6 (27:20):
Here, good day.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
What do you got Jim, Oh.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
She just wanted to talk about your golf match that
you were propositioning before.

Speaker 3 (27:27):
No, Trump's propositioned it.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Wondering if if he was going to get in contact
with that porn star that he paid off, maybe just
to get a bit more views.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
For the golf match.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
For the golf match, absolutely, and if Borden started talking
to his son and his drug dealer.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
It could be a real huh Yeah, I think Stormy Daniels.
I think a Stormy and Biden. So you want Stormy
and Biden, you Stormy and Hunter as the Keddies? Is
it the answer?

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (28:02):
I went to get some views. Is what the hits
and social media now is it? It's going to get
some You probably could be a viral star. Trump people
seem to be compelled by and we speaks like a comedian.
That's the trouble with him with his callbacks anyway. Getting
touched to look at the Canada Geese. My name is
Marcus Hill twelve, it'll be the shindy. Always think I

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recognized that guye Jim and Marcus.

Speaker 13 (28:26):
I didn't the thing.

Speaker 14 (28:27):
My name's Marcus Hiddle.

Speaker 6 (28:28):
Twel it'll be.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
I recognize that guy.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Jim theyn Hello, how I it's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 15 (28:40):
Hello.

Speaker 16 (28:40):
I thought I'd just flown up because of originally from England,
but I'm now a peey. But a long time ago
with my late husband and I went back to Britain
and the farmers were not allowed to shoot those birds
and they re havoc everywhere.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
And how was that resolved in.

Speaker 16 (29:05):
I don't know it would be, because we can't. We
were just there on a visit. We had become mu
Zealand then. But it's all in warm parts, in the
lovely walk part of the country. I got all this
mess on it and it was just ridiculous, and I
just wondered if anybody knew why they did that.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
I guess the English have a different relationship with the
ghost after that gorgeous story of Snow Ghost. Do you
remember the one?

Speaker 16 (29:35):
No, oh, don't.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
You remember that? Don't remember the story of snow It
was something to with Dunkirk, wasn't it. The ghost didn't
come but you remember that?

Speaker 14 (29:45):
No Ah.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
It was a gorgeous book.

Speaker 16 (29:50):
And I don't think that my age, I'd be buying
the book. Maybe somebody will bring in idea. No, I
don't know it.

Speaker 3 (30:00):
Oh, well, you know, was it the lighthouse birds nursed
back to flight? It was a great story, snow Goose,
But of course that wasn't the Canada goose. The snow
goose was different. Pick your goose, Marcus. Canada geese greasy,
waterproof feathers from overlapping armor to shock gun pellets need
to be shot from behind to the pellets compenetrate the overlaps.

(30:22):
Gavin Canterbury, what's there down like? Because there's those range
of jackets have got Canada? They got? Is it good
down now? Everyone's got those giant puffer jackets? Is it
goose down in there? Marcus? The geese a pesky, yit
majestic bird. Love to see them swoop by the farmhouse

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before they land. Terrific noise they make, but alas the damage, Marcus.
I go fishing for coy, carp and huntley at a
big lake and there's thousands of Canadian geese there at
night time. Just to amuse myself, I get my really
bright torch out and aim it at the Canadian geese
that camp out in the pond. All of a sudden,

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the thousand geese start moving up and down the lake
until they settle, and then I get my head torch
out again. But a fun don't really see many hunters
year around targeting them, do they think it's the sun
coy carp. That's another bird that's wreaking havoc. I'll ditch
will be onto them too. You'd hope, wouldn't. You got

(31:26):
a lot of faith in ditch, Marcus. Our father used
to go shooting Canadas at Lake Elsmere with others. I
still remember mother scrubbing the feathers off in the watchhouse.
The meat taste good, game me in dark, but he
had to spit out the shotgun pellets when eating them.
Although I'll tell you what that guy said. He said
that meat's quite dark and meat and also fish smelling.

(31:52):
I don't think that sounded good, mind. I guess you
could use that to describe the mutton bird. It's not fishy,
though it's oily cod livery. It's all about the Canadas.
My name is Marcus. Welcome refreshing to be off the
g strings oh eight hundred eighty nine to nine to

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detect title twelve breaking news when that happens. It's all
about the Aratary Ferry. Why they give them a button
that shouldn't be pushed sounds like a design fault to me.
Who wouldn't want to push a mystery button? Yeah? Eight

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hundred eighty ten eighty. The headlines are there at the
We're on topic 'ron trend headline Canada geese taking over
Kenterbury Yep, Peter, nice to hear from your. Greetings and
good evening, Hi, Peter.

Speaker 8 (32:48):
I likewise to you, Marcus. Lovely to hear from you. Well,
to be talking to you. Plan and christ Church not
far from the Heathcot River. Yeah, and it's quite noticeable
over the last few years the increase in Canada geese
numbers on the river and around Ale. I worked on

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farms on and loft for a lot of my life,
and I know that for particularly high country farmers, but
a lot of downland farmers in Canterbury as well. The
geese have become a real scourge. They eat four geese
will eat the equivalent of one adult sheep, and in
so doing each goose will deposit up to a kilo

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of fecal matter, which not only neat to they eat
the grass, but they foul the pasture to make it
any the less unpalatable to the animals following up. They
are also vectors of E. Coli, various other bacterias. I
think sol Manella as well, but we know what happened

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with the eg Colo debarcle about three years ago up
and have a north So that represents a real danger
to humankind as well.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
I think international studies show that the populations increase thirty
seven percent year on year, So three years you've double,
So that's kind of what you're up against day. I mean,
that's like, that's that's that's extraordinary growth.

Speaker 8 (34:12):
Yeah, they're a very cunning bird too. Some years ago
they endeavored to sort of halt the population explosion by
injecting the eggs in the high country with a formula
and a based poison which killed the embryo. But the
poor and the poor old mother goose would sit and
sit and sit, and by the time it came that

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the eggs hadn't hatched, their breeding cycle had come to
an end. But I don't know what sort of success
rate they had with that. But they're a magnificent looking bird.
But by joes, are they a dirty scourge on our environment?

Speaker 3 (34:45):
And they're reckon up all the area around the estuary
do they They're all sort of that grassland ereck because
they're a lot of planting and stuff around cross dirge
with the birds kind of lose its desirability, don't it.

Speaker 6 (34:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (34:56):
And they spread of course, having been waterbers as they
are their host to salmonella and E. Cola and what
have you, which can then be sort of introduced to
the wider bird population. And then you have dangers from
you know, like even passing on to birds that might
frequent sort of urban environments, and then you have an
ongoing problem from that as well.

Speaker 3 (35:17):
So they're getting into people's backyards and gardens, Are they
spoiling those or they stay clear of that?

Speaker 8 (35:21):
No, No, they're not, because they're very weary birds. Even
I noticed that on the head. They are very very weary,
and they'll often have a lookout. The others will be
grazing away and they'll have one to take turns at
being a lookout and given an alarm call. Show they're organized,
very organ They're an intelligent bird.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Yeah and organized, which is a deathly combination, really, isn't it.

Speaker 10 (35:46):
Absolutely?

Speaker 8 (35:47):
Yeah. When you see them in their organization as such
that will you see them coming towards you, it's almost
like a platoon of stormtroopers with their bow.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
Wow, you really have gone there with that? Okay, okay,
could you heard them up? Could you you must be
ab to do something with a hot with one of
those vehicles with a big fan on the back, heard
them out or something.

Speaker 8 (36:10):
You know, there was a very contentious activity that occurred
on Lake Aliesmere or three or four or five years ago.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Someone went into them with a jet with a jet boat,
didn't they And that was bad, I did.

Speaker 8 (36:21):
And at certain when they're molting, of course they were
unable to fly, and they're able to be herded into
a big raft of live birds. And unfortunately they didn't
go about it in a particularly appealing manner. They clubbed
them to death on the water and left them.

Speaker 12 (36:35):
But I think.

Speaker 8 (36:38):
That in parts of the world they actually heard them
to the shore with either a helicopter a jetboat and
then more humanely dispatch them on shore, which is probably
a route that we need to be looking at taking.

Speaker 6 (36:50):
I think.

Speaker 3 (36:51):
So you put them into a fenced area and then
you put them down there into a narrow area and
put them into it, and then.

Speaker 8 (36:58):
Yeah, and humanly dispatch them and you know, more like
an Avatar style sort of because everyone knows that the
meat on the bird is very consumable and quite delicious
and so yeah, and in that in that case, I
sort of wonder, is there like some sort of business possibility,

(37:19):
you know, to harvest them and do something with the meat. So, yeah,
where we have a check at history as regards introducing
animals that have come to bite us in the bum,
as it were.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
Pretty much, it's pretty much all the colonists have done
has brought pests. The pokicker came here on their own volitions,
so we called them a native even though they flew across.

Speaker 8 (37:47):
But all the others, yeah, you're right there. Yeah, disaster
and and and daily almost I'm reading how you know
what wild garden escapes like plants that were introduced and
becoming more and more of a problem. And then of
course with the world trade, so we're finding all these

(38:07):
blooming insects and clouds coming along containers and then escape
the into the environment.

Speaker 3 (38:14):
So they've got keywa fruit whild on the West coast.
I could talk all night. We're talking Canada geese. They're
called the rabbits of the sky. They're taking over. Yeah,
it's a big deal. I never really thought much about it,
but boy boy, now I can't think of much else.
They're organized. They've got some that are on watch and

(38:36):
there's centuries extremely well organize, extremely worrying. Do you want
to talk about this eight hundred and eighty ten. I
don't know what the solution is, some sort of bio weapon.
Probably No one's drying up and said we should get
the unemployed to hunt them. That's normal people ring up
and say we should get the unemployed to go out

(38:56):
there and get them. And then people probably think, well,
actually giving the unemployed a whole of steaming automatic rifles
is probably not the smartest idea. Not that they would
do anything underwood with them, but it could be a
recipe for I mean, things would go wrong, you would think.

Speaker 15 (39:19):
So.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
No one's saying that, which is a surprise. But yeah,
if you've got any input on this, don't if anyone's
doing anything with the feathers. Remember the other night, No,
a while ago, we talked about peacocks and what a
pest they are. There's no shortage of things that are

(39:40):
taking over. I've got about the peacocks too. What do
they do? They's not hide up in trees and they're
not much usy that they eat a lot of the
chro I think they foil the land also. So if
you've got something to talk about, say about have to
say about this eight hundred and eighty Teddy and nine
two nine to detext It's all about the Canada geese.

(40:06):
Marcus and Canada. They are referred to as honkers. Didn't
know that, but beck catch if you want to talk.
My name is Marcus. Welcome hddle twelve. It's Canada geese
and I presume in Canada they are not the apex predator.
They are here because there'll be moose and wolverines and
things that'll be eating them. Mine. You have never seen

(40:28):
anyone on a loan eat a Canada goose. I don't
catch much on a loan. Do they get some fish?
And that guy didn't get a moose? But then the
then the wolverine took it all and I enjoyed my
obsession with a loan when that was going on. Debus,

(40:54):
how's the go mate? Good?

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Yeah? You're talking about those beds, yep.

Speaker 6 (41:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (41:03):
When I was growing up, we had a lot of
uh peacocks.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Yes, Marcus. Imagine if bird flow arrived in New Zealand
and the world, Canadian geese spread it with their fecal matter,
go through the pasture to dairy kettles into the milk.
We observed clouds, We observed, We observed clouds and coastal
taraniki that turned out to be real large flocks and
one hundreds of geese. Apparently they can strip a panic

(41:30):
of pasture really quick, Margaret, Marcus, how about using boot
camps to round them up and kill them? That's great,
I thought, you say, said the Canadian geese to boot camp.
But how about using boot camps to round them up?

(41:50):
And that'll come up. Someone mentioned that that'll be on
my talkback Bengo for this year. Marcus. Have you seen
SpaceX ten test launch of their new spaceship the most
amazing thing you'll ever see? Held off on YouTube?

Speaker 2 (42:08):
Rick?

Speaker 3 (42:08):
Thank you, Rick. So, yeah, we're all gonna die because
of the bird fluid. It's going to get now, milk bags.
Not eat the untreated milk. He'd be mad to eat that.
At the drink that at the moment he'd be mad
to drink milk, to be mad to drink milk. But
you know I can't say that. Not allowed round up

(42:29):
some feral cats, let them loose on the Canada geese.
Just a thought, thank you. How do you insult a
Canada Geese call him American people in quite a humorous
mind tonight, which is good, it's positive. What's amazing is
they say there's only sixty thousand. You wouldn't think that

(42:54):
would be that hard to get that many. If one
hundred people get ten a day, at sixty days, they're
all gone and you've got she sounds like he's getting
about five hundred a day. It's a great name. It's
a great name. Nivett's Marcus. Welcome.

Speaker 15 (43:17):
Yeah, good evening, Marcus. That's ye needs here that I
just wondered if you wanted to talk about a different
sort of a bird. I'm just having a cup of
coffee here and I've got a big thing that the
coffee was in. It's called a hummingbird. Do you want
to talk about that or another night?

Speaker 3 (43:38):
Oh I'm not trade?

Speaker 15 (43:40):
Okay, Well it's got a photo on here. It's a
beautiful looking bird. There's Hummingbird coffee roasters, nectar, fair trade
organic organic whole beans and something else and his fresh
stovetop and then underneath over the back there it's got

(44:06):
coffee is every to us and yeah it's made in
Selwyn Street, Edrington. Christchurts it gives you all the the
phone numbers have to contact us on eight hundreds such
and such a number and store and everything. I just

(44:29):
had a laugh when we're talking about listening listening to
all these birds all night, like big giant birds and
all the restaurant and I thought, well, well, holding out
about this coffee bird thing.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
Now, the Hummingbird's on the packet, not on the cup.
Is that right?

Speaker 15 (44:43):
Yes, it's on the packet. No, there's no cup, come
with it.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Okay, how do you make your coffee?

Speaker 12 (44:49):
Oh?

Speaker 15 (44:49):
Well, I don't know, but that's here. I've just made
it like every other coffee. Ahead of the a level
teaspon of coffee, yea, and the same with sugar level
teas then and then a bit of milk just to
color it.

Speaker 6 (45:05):
And boiling water okay, milk and first.

Speaker 15 (45:10):
Yeah, yeah, put put the milk, sugar coffee and the
and the cup will start and then put the water
in and stir it, and uh, there's my coffee.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
Have you always done hummingbird coffee? It's a bit of
a market brand.

Speaker 15 (45:24):
No, no, no, no, I've never had no, I haven't
so I always trink this.

Speaker 3 (45:31):
Why have you got hummingbird tonight, well.

Speaker 15 (45:34):
Come in a packet for me. There was delivered from
a lady up the north Orn. What had actually happened
is she had lost her wallet down here and cross
she undernned. Well, no, she knew she had lost it,
and they advertised on the street. Z'd be radio for

(45:55):
anyone to look out for the swallet. And anyway, I was,
you know I live in Cristias. Yes, so I was
in the homeby mall and I saw this wallet there,
but I didn't know she had been advertisingly. I've picked
up the wallet and it had this lady's name and
phone number in it, and there was about fifty dollars

(46:17):
in cash in it. A little bit more than that.
It was a fifty dollars a night and a ten
dollar note and change. And anyway, when I got home,
because I don't have a cell phone, herything. And when
I got home, I wrung her up and said, look
there if you lost your wallet, because I've got it.
She says, yes I did. I couldn't didn't know what

(46:38):
she had done with it. So I told her that
where do you live or you want to cover under
my place and get it? And she said she didn't
have a car or anything. And she had two young
daughters with her, and I said, well, I'll deliver it.
So I dropped around her place and gave it to her.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Was she had Hornby, No, she was in there Rollston.

Speaker 15 (47:05):
Oh yeah, Troopers, which is not far from Hornby.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
Anyway, I was in Rolliston today. Caught the bus two dollars.
It's a good bus. It's a good look. It's a
good good library they got there. Boy, that was pumping.

Speaker 13 (47:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (47:17):
Yeah, it is a good library.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Right library. They let me guy, I see, could you
charge my funding? We have the beacon check. The librarian
charged my phone.

Speaker 12 (47:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (47:26):
And there's pretty a car parking at the back.

Speaker 6 (47:27):
Of that library.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
I was on a bus, didn't it it did I?

Speaker 15 (47:30):
Oh no, no, that's right.

Speaker 12 (47:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
I didn't know where to get off the bus. I
got off the wrong side of town. I thought, well,
I thought the terminal would be at the main but
he took me, took me to some god forsaken place
on the far side of town. It was a thirty
seven minute walk across Rolliston to get to the library
to recharge my phone.

Speaker 15 (47:46):
Oh hell, maybe ten minutes from seven or eight minutes
from the library where in Roliston.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
Yeah, oh, I should have come for a coffee.

Speaker 15 (47:55):
Yeah, you should have.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
What road? Was he road named after an artist like
Pollock or Rehnwa.

Speaker 15 (48:01):
Or no, he was named after it important like that.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
It's but a lot of the roads were named after painters.
Looking at the streets as I wandered around, my.

Speaker 15 (48:12):
Name better than painters, and better than people that name
their roads after for themselves. My name's like, my name's
a lot better than anything.

Speaker 3 (48:21):
What's your street name?

Speaker 15 (48:23):
I'm not talking about that. Oh I can do a
street name is excuse me, it's Rockfield.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
Oh yeah, yeah. It worked quite well the bus system
there actually, you know, they've got good information. We wouldn't
catch a bus. You'd be a driver, would you?

Speaker 15 (48:42):
Yeah yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:43):
But the bus goes the bus goes, doesn't go on
the main road, goes on the road beside the railway
past that inland Port where the containers are stacked high.

Speaker 15 (48:51):
Yeah that's right, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:52):
Pretty interesting. A lot of people just ride the buses
just for the hell of it, like they're not going anywhere.
I think they're just like a bit of a chat.

Speaker 15 (48:59):
Yeah that's right.

Speaker 17 (49:00):
Yeah, yeah, But why are you at Hornby Hub?

Speaker 3 (49:03):
Why would you not go? Is this stuff you can't
get in Roliston? Oh?

Speaker 15 (49:07):
Yeah, no, no, I go with the bean Zi Bank.
And now I always go to Hornby to see ye
as I something to do with banking. But otherwise I
go to rollers So it's easier for me to go
to Rollerston than what it is to go to Hornby.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
There's a new sushi place opens here tomorrow, three hundred
free meals from twelve o'clock.

Speaker 15 (49:29):
Oh I heard that.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Just around the corner from the light just next.

Speaker 15 (49:33):
To the library in Rolliston. In Rolliston, Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
I don't know if I don't know how quickly that
run out, But it seems you've got a kids in
the light of the library of very busy, busiest library
i've been to.

Speaker 15 (49:45):
Yeah right, yeah, Lego.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
And computers and there's a cafe in there, and there's
activities and people studying and cheap as just an elderly
couple having you in there today?

Speaker 12 (49:56):
Were you no?

Speaker 15 (49:57):
I wasn't No, No, I was busy. Yeah, I've got
Heaston East to do. I'm seventy nine years of age
and in the three months time i'll be the eighty.
But no, the heaps and heaster things to do I've got.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
Did you give you a whole hamper or just the
hummingbird coffee?

Speaker 15 (50:16):
No? Just no, no, the whole, the whole. It's in
a bag. No, no other hamper with it. It's just
a bag of coffee.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
It's pretty good, pretty generous.

Speaker 15 (50:25):
But it's a big bag. I'd have to look at
the fine detail.

Speaker 3 (50:30):
But I think we've I think we've had great detail
from the packet.

Speaker 15 (50:34):
It would have to be there have to be three
key of it. It's not just a week pegget of coffee.
It's yeah, I could probably look it up, but it's
pretty fine.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
I mean there's one bag of three kilogram of coffee
or was there other stuff there as well?

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Oh?

Speaker 15 (50:51):
No, just just a coffee.

Speaker 10 (50:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
How BIG's the bag? Would it be as big as
a loaf of bread?

Speaker 12 (50:57):
Oh?

Speaker 15 (50:57):
You get a loaf from bread? Just to be inside it.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
It's hard to visualize what you're talking about. And it's
instant coffee. It's not coffee grounds.

Speaker 15 (51:06):
No, it's sinstant coffee. Yeah, it's got on the date
he had missed before the twenty seventh or the seventh,
twenty twenty four.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
Which you haven't got long. It's only ten days away.

Speaker 15 (51:19):
Yeah, yeah, I keep the gun for first three months.

Speaker 3 (51:24):
You went to sleep. It was a while ago. You
got the coffee, yeah.

Speaker 15 (51:28):
Yeah, yeah, for sure. It's just that I was talking
about it tonight, so I haven't Yeah. Yeah, I just thought,
well i'll ring you up to see the fence.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
Have you been in Rolliston moving there in the same day?

Speaker 15 (51:40):
Yeah, well yeah, I didn't go down yesterday.

Speaker 3 (51:43):
Are you living Rolston right, yes?

Speaker 15 (51:46):
Yes, well I lived halfway between Hornby and Rolliston.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Are you on that country road beside the railway. Are
you near the dog kennel back?

Speaker 15 (51:56):
No? No, no, not that hard and if you can
look up your nappers, I'm on Burkett's Road B double
T yes, burker Road.

Speaker 4 (52:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
Assure it's not plunge your coffee.

Speaker 15 (52:09):
Plunger No, no, under stay thing that have plung you.
I've just been making it late.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Does it taste all right?

Speaker 15 (52:17):
Well, it tastes good. It's not good.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
It's not gritty, it's not you haven't got Is it dissolving?

Speaker 15 (52:23):
Yeah, it's just like the ordinary coffee that I get,
which is great. So it's not a it's not a
granule thing that you've got to put it in a
coffee grinder or anything. It's not nothing like that.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
We're all but intrigued. Nev cheaper is one of the
more interesting conversations of my life eight hundred and eighty
twenty nine to text South Island's sixth BIGUS community, Ralston
just after blend them might be the fifth. Anyway, Canada,

(52:57):
Geese and public are always up for a bus trip.
Love a bus trip. Always surprised on busses. How many
times to get a bus swap drivers halfway through that?
Why would you swap a driver put their card on,
They got to get their seat comfortable. We just right
to get the end of the route and then change
your driver. Anyway, so very efficient and well run bus system.

(53:22):
There's always a noisy bus. There's always like a perspect panel.
That kind of.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
I reue.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
If I was running a bus company, I'd have a
I'd have a checklist for the drivers, like is the
bus incredibly noisy every time it goes over a bump
with like a perspects panel? Yes, tick and take it
to the deep out the end of the day and
just get that fix. That would be my tip. Apart
from that remark would be good and what I've noticed

(53:51):
with the people of christ Church where they're on the buses.
When they get off the buses, they just say thanks,
which I'm a big fan of because for a long
time they to say thanks driver, and I thought that
was slightly I felt uncomfortable with that thanks driver. I
thought that was a bit sort of upstairs downstairsy. But yeah, thanks.

(54:15):
So then they're also all of them thanks, hey, thanks,
and I think it's become more natural and relaxed rather
the thanks driver. Anyway, it's a minor comment on manners
and society. But there we go. We are talking Canada. Geese.
Didn't see many did up the Avon, but not in
the in the outlying areas of Rolliston. And he's right,

(54:42):
I don't think there were any banks in Roliston. He's
probably going to catch the bus to go to his day.
He's not in Rolliston, he's in Burkett's Road anyway. I'm
sure that's coffee grounds. Wouldn't you think there was coffee
grounds a dan. It's filled to coffee, isn't it. So
what's that? I mean, he's excited by it. Clearly it's

(55:03):
changed as world. But but cheap is a level teaspoon
and a level teaspoon of sugar and milk. Marcus. Hummingbird
coffee comes in big bags for cafes, but they don't
make instant coffee. Love to know what Nev has been drinking. Yeah,
but that's infested out of my new favorite. Clearly, clearly

(55:29):
thought it was interesting after I around the entire packet
of what was happening in it. But always when I'm teaching,
talk back to the other students and always say behind
every callers a story, they're just waiting to get out.
It's a bit like therapy. And for Leeve it was
not much about the humming bird, was more about finding
the wallet, not taking the money. Marcus. We're infested with

(55:53):
rock pigeons, rat with ring rats with wings. They're considered pests,
are okay to kill. Can you please ask your audience
the most human way of disposing of them? Marcus. The
hummingbird is the species of bird that can fly in reverse.
Just listen to the coffee man, Marcus, it will be
expresso or plunge your coffee. Yeah, I can see exactly.

(56:15):
It's like one of those cafe It's one of those
cafe packs, isn't it. They all ground and just to open.
That's why I have to. It's got such a short
dispose of date. It'd be great to use on their
marketing campaign. And Greg's guy that found a wallet and
got and switched, but'd like him have a plunger or

(56:37):
something to make it slightly better or a drip later. Anyway,
Welcome people. My name is Marcus Haddle twelve. We are
talking heaps of black swans at Blockhouse Bay Beach. They
have just derived from nowhere about one hundred, either in
the sea or even grass on the shore. Yes, it's

(56:59):
hard to like a swan. We're brought up to think that.
I mean, after the ugly duckling, they're a graceful, exciting
and or what excous on. I don't know. I've got
my doubts. Anyway. The New Zealand dollar two and fifty
seven years old today, that's right, a decimal currency day.

(57:22):
We have discussed this a year ago. Is that we
discussed a year ago today? Dan, People said they were
at the bank and they were some guys on the
train that took the money around the country. It's quite
interesting discussion. Is there our topic this day a year ago?
Dan's just looking that up. Marcus FYI. They are usually

(57:42):
referred to as Canadian geese. No, we call them Canadas.
They have virtually impossible to shoot us. Their extremely cunning.
We have them up here in the munw A two
and they decimate our crops overnight. We also have rooks,
which are horrible. Thanks Jackie H. The rooks are taking
over too. And there's minor birds in christ Jurch. I

(58:04):
don't know that they'll breed, might be too cold for
them anyway. My name is Marcus Hurdled twelve twenty four
to twenty four to ten. Back soon, very Marcus. Hello, welcome.

Speaker 7 (58:18):
Hello Marcus is Berry speaking?

Speaker 3 (58:20):
They Berry?

Speaker 7 (58:22):
Yeah, I just want to talk about I've had both
domestic geese and Canada geese experience.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
Great.

Speaker 7 (58:31):
We used to have domestic geese when I worked from
as a kid, and then they got out of hand
and then we in up with five hundreds of things
and no easied a third of our one hundred acres
farm of grass in the summer.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
Do geese have a big what's the group of eggs called?
Is it a clutch?

Speaker 12 (58:50):
Oh? I don't know.

Speaker 7 (58:54):
We were called it a nest.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
But okay, and the geese have yeah, five or six
eggs do they twenty twenty? Oh wow, cheap is okay.

Speaker 7 (59:03):
And you might have about six or seven little because
we used to a goose eggs equivalent to about three
hen eggs. Yep, so it was always good eating.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
Were you breeding them for the eggs?

Speaker 8 (59:15):
So?

Speaker 3 (59:15):
Were you doing it commercially?

Speaker 15 (59:16):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (59:17):
No, We had them for the Christmas dinner and peer
Wath celebrations during the year yep. But also we've got
a poppy down coromantel and one with power Harbor is
absolutely full of Canadian geese.

Speaker 3 (59:34):
Goodness, okay, And that's quite a recent thing.

Speaker 7 (59:39):
We've noticed in the last five or six years probably
or maybe longer now when the Lake will three managed
to shoot one and they gathered to see what was
eating and it was full of baby flounder. So you
can see why there's not many flounder around now.

Speaker 3 (59:57):
I don't think Canada geese are of that grass and
the floating search.

Speaker 7 (01:00:04):
They all seat baby flounder.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (01:00:08):
So something else for you to think about, um hm,
are you okay? And I reckon I should get rid
of every single one of them. They're only they're not
even native and they just destroy a local foreigner.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
Anyway, a horrible, horrible.

Speaker 7 (01:00:25):
And as you say, they deficate when we had we
had two pets and they could round the house and
they were good watch dogs. But the fasts they eat
the grass that was coming out the.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Other end cheap is okay? Well, look I appreciate you
coming through with that, Barry. That's goodd and tail. Thank
you for that, John Marcus. Good evening, welcomes.

Speaker 18 (01:00:49):
Look at a massive overseas deficit. And I'm sitting here
looking at it, going why isn't anybody hearting these gudeas
up and sticking the along the sheet and fun and
nobody to get rid of our overseas deficit?

Speaker 3 (01:01:05):
Okay, who would do that? Like the ram raiders?

Speaker 15 (01:01:09):
No?

Speaker 18 (01:01:10):
No, some probably a lot which is in me that
can or some rain put up a whole lot of sheet,
random all up.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
But they eat that much grass. You better off doing
something people want, like beef.

Speaker 18 (01:01:24):
The market's pouring out of beef, is it?

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
But if you notice much demand for Canada geese, because
I haven't.

Speaker 18 (01:01:32):
Wait for Christmas time, it'sportant to America. The Americans eat a.

Speaker 3 (01:01:36):
Lot of geese, do they You eve seen Trump eat
of goose?

Speaker 18 (01:01:42):
I could say something very sarcastic about I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:01:44):
Know the turkeys the Americans, don't they?

Speaker 15 (01:01:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (01:01:48):
And geese.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
When's the last time we seeing American eat the geese? Goose?
I think the English the English love of goose.

Speaker 18 (01:02:00):
Oh, there we go, there's another market. Okay, yeah, just
seems like a logical thing rather than just killing them
and burying them and find somewhere to for a market.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
Find what.

Speaker 18 (01:02:17):
Find somewhere for a market for them? Okay, thanks, are
not a logical thing to do for me.

Speaker 3 (01:02:26):
So there's sixty thousand geese in the country, right Canada.
Geese were they were worth twenty thousand dollars twenty dollars
each to sell.

Speaker 18 (01:02:34):
You were saying that good to know, mate, Well, well.

Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
That's got a million dollars. If you sell all the
geese overseas, you've made a million bucks sets without all
your costs. I don't think we're going to pay the
deficit off with that, are we?

Speaker 15 (01:02:46):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:02:47):
But long term.

Speaker 18 (01:02:50):
A million dollars a.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
Year, Well you're not, because you've got to farm them
and export them and pluck them and treat them and
pay your text and your GST and whatever and you
yeah anyway, yeah, okay, Well think you this way.

Speaker 18 (01:03:04):
You start up with sixty thousand ft them breed, you
end up with a million of them, then you've got
ten million.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
I think we're trying to get rid of them, aren't we?

Speaker 18 (01:03:14):
Only because they're causing a lot of problems. But if
we uh change them up and find a good market
for them.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
Are you an entrepreneur? Have you got an entrepreneurial background?

Speaker 15 (01:03:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 18 (01:03:27):
I just don't have the capital.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Okay, what do you want to do? If you get
we get you other money? What's your playing?

Speaker 18 (01:03:34):
Just that random all up.

Speaker 3 (01:03:37):
Is that you're playing.

Speaker 18 (01:03:39):
If I had the money, it's just what I do.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
I just round them up and.

Speaker 18 (01:03:45):
Find them.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Could you get a loan?

Speaker 18 (01:03:50):
Not in my talent situation. Unfortunately you bankrupt pretty much.
I didn't want to meet that on here, but.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
Yeah, well yeah, okay, I don't want to pry either, John.
But thank you. Just coming up to the break.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
My name is Marcus Hill, twelve. I hope it's good.
We you are, oh eight, one hundred and eighty Taddy
and nine. It's talk about the goose all the Canadas.
Poland's big with geese, Egypt big with geese, Iran is

(01:04:26):
big with Geese, Jordan, Turkey, Hungary Geese, Germany Geese, France Geese,
China geese. Not so much in the US of A.

(01:04:48):
Youet good, fat off a goose to render Peter Marcus welcome. Hello,
yeah hi, it's Marcus. Good evening, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Good evening.

Speaker 10 (01:04:59):
Look, one of the problems with these geese is the
fact that there's not the shooters out there, you know,
like I've been a duck sheet for a number of years,
and because of all the red tape and everything now
involved with Flora, I might.

Speaker 3 (01:05:13):
Be wrong about the Americans. Not anything Geese. Someone said
they've just rewatched six feet under in them. Is that
about the Is that about the uh all with the
many wives, the poly polygamy cult on it. That's anyway,
that's the funeral directors, Marcus, I've been rewatching six feet
under this episode with the mum cooked a goose for Christmas.

(01:05:36):
Skypanders are good eating. Also, no need to have a
game bird license to hunt them. We don't have Canada geese,
but we have hawks. We feed them dead poss and
watch them tear them a bits. I love drip coffee,
Sonya Karaka. We have a lot of geese and paraparaumu.
Thank you for that. We are talking Geese, Geese, Canada

(01:06:01):
Geese or Canada's as we call them. If you want
to talk about this good it's the top of tonight.
And could you drink if you were given granulated coffee,
could you drink it and think it was instant coffee?
That's what most of us are actually obsessed about. So

(01:06:26):
you might want to talk about that also tonight. Oh
eight eight eighty nine two nine to text. My name
is Marcus welcome. There's something else you want to mention
what I don't reckon as good as they call them
the rabbits of the sky, but they're actually more on
the water than the sky, aren't they. They should be

(01:06:47):
called the rabbits of the lake or see rabbits what
a Canada goose spend more and spend more time in
the lake than I don't know, get amongst it. If
you want to talk about this, my name is Marcus welcome.
Hehit'll twelve geese, number one topic of the geese. Number

(01:07:10):
two topic still geese. And that guy on his coffee
with a three kilogram bag must be coffee grounds, must
be a cafe catering Peck but he's going to get
through it all. So many questions from that call, Oh,

(01:07:39):
eight hundred eighty Teddy and nineteen nine to the text.
Anything else you want to have just try do get
in touch. Oh eight hundred eighty Teddy and nine two
nine to the text, Ellen, it's Marcus. Good evening, and
thank you for calling.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Yeah, I got a Marcus thing and a second I'll
just get this thing organized here. Yeah, there's Canada geese idea.
I've got a pretty substantial entrepreneurial background, and I think
it's an interesting idea. But I missed all the metrics
on how many geese there are and everything like, Okay,
how did that all stick up?

Speaker 3 (01:08:13):
Just just turn your radio right off? Okay, just so
I can.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
I'm just trying.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
Yeah I can. I can appreciate you. That's better?

Speaker 5 (01:08:20):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
How's that this won't bloody turn on?

Speaker 3 (01:08:24):
What's what?

Speaker 5 (01:08:25):
What if you?

Speaker 3 (01:08:25):
What are you picking there? What do you got in
the car? Where are you?

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
How weird is it I'm driving in Hobsonville and Auckland.
How weird is that I can't burn the bloody phone
the radio from the car?

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
It is your?

Speaker 3 (01:08:38):
Is your? iHeart radio on? As well.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
Well, I don't know, it's all come up red lights on.

Speaker 3 (01:08:46):
I mean the problem with the problem with the problem
with you is you rung up and you see your
entrepreneurial but you can't even turn your radio.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
Yeah, well entrepreneurs. Yeah, we're a pretty analogue lot. Really.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
Okay, there's sixty three in Canada geese, right they eat
they eat four of the meat as much as a sheep,
and they defecate a kilogram of matter each day, which
you wreck your pasture.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
Yeah, yep, So maybe there's a good way of finding
what to do with that goose menu of it. Now,
let's let's figure out the goose meat thing I have.
I have, I've eaten Canada geese. It's more it's gamey,
I think is the is the is the is the
nabord for it? It's it's it's not like a commercially

(01:09:41):
grown goose, which are the food you know, the commercial
geese that particularly out of the China and the French geese,
et cetera. They're quite a different thing. Yep. But but
who cares. There's probably a market for it if it's
presented correctly. You can probably sell a possum if you
presented it correctly to the market, Like kiwi fruit was

(01:10:02):
just a weed until somebody changed it the kiwi fruit,
and you know, the rest is history. They're going to
taste it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
It looks like it looks like beef, and it tastes
quite fishy, tastes like what it tastes quite fishy.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
I wouldn't call it fishy, but what that's what Ditch.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
Died and he's like a Canada geese expert. But yeah,
do you want to know if they eat them in Canada?

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Yeah? Well, I think they're sort of a hunter's you know,
a repast or something of the type of food. But
the long on the sort of the sixty thousand of them,
I don't think you could build a market around sixty
the other the units across the whole of New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (01:10:50):
But if you pin them up, they breed really quickly.
But the trouble is, yeah, they'll ruin all your past,
your putting sheep on it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
Yeah. Well, if you if you pen them up and
and you've got to feed them, they're not going to
live on grass if there's duck food available, you know.
So aha, now here's an idea. Okay, in the same
way that the the shrimp farms sell the tourists the feed,

(01:11:26):
which the and als are the trout farms sell the
tourists to feed. And it's a big gig to go
and feed the trout and la la la, and you've
gone by ten cents worth of duck food for two
dollars for a bag, and then that fed to the
geese because the geese, if they're given a you know,

(01:11:48):
something more nutritious and easier to digest than grass, they'll
eat it. So okay, So this becomes this is this
is the entrepreneur idea bleeding out of a step of head. Then,
in the same way that trout farms and oha channel, are.

Speaker 3 (01:12:12):
They trottle salmon?

Speaker 2 (01:12:16):
Trout? Trouts are legal to sell?

Speaker 3 (01:12:20):
I think I think there's salmon farms, are they?

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Did I say trout farms? Yeah? Sorry, okay yeah, the
so okay, So it becomes a goose experience. And then
the goose meat becomes something exclusive. You'd have to sell
it in some value added system because you know, people

(01:12:44):
are just after a piece of meat and it's poultry.
Then they're going to buy chicken, aren't they because it's
so cheap. But yeah, it's it's it's I think it's
an interesting it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
Come back with your business proposal. Ellen Stevid Marcus welcome.

Speaker 13 (01:13:00):
Yeah, wild ones aren't worth eating. I've been given one
and it was very gaming. As you say. You got
to catch them and domesticate them, get them in a
flock and feed them good tacker seed. The foragers they'll
eat anything.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
So hang on. You got one that you got, you got,
you got one. This is not the progeny. You get
one as an adult and you can actually improve its meat,
can you.

Speaker 13 (01:13:25):
Yeah, you've got to catch them and put them in
a truck, run and feed them good food.

Speaker 3 (01:13:30):
He would it take?

Speaker 13 (01:13:32):
You know? They most birds are like a foragers. They'll
eat anything. They'll lead each other if they find a
dead one. They're not worth eating. The wild ones we'll
have freeing over them with the hanger and she's got
a oh. She go about twenty five or thirty on

(01:13:52):
the property and she feeds them good tacker. Now you've
got to remove the oil glend out of the tail
because they preen themselves with that oil, and the moment
you kill them, that oil goes right through the meat.
It's like having an engineer's oil your egg in your mouth. Yeah,

(01:14:14):
you've got to domesticate them.

Speaker 3 (01:14:16):
It's like, hang on this questions, It's like having an engineers.

Speaker 13 (01:14:20):
Oil your egg in your mouth. Okay, yeah, are horrible. Yeah,
you've got they've got them around there Hamilton Lakes.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
So when they're when they're alive, do you have to
remove the oily glend from them?

Speaker 13 (01:14:35):
No? They just the moment you kill them. Okay, at
the moment you're in their neck. You've got to get
in there and get that oil gland out. It's the
base of the tail. They use that oil to preen there.

Speaker 17 (01:14:47):
Sure so, so Steve, if you're trying to purge one
in your backyard and your chicken run, would you be
feeding it mesh and grain and stuff?

Speaker 13 (01:14:58):
Yeah? The only one I got. What I did was
for a got them for Christmas. I got down a bakehouse.
I got two big, clean set bags full of old
garlic bread.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
Wow.

Speaker 13 (01:15:20):
I sort of pre he was eating a lot of
that garlic bread, and I sort of pre But you know,
wild ones are not just not worth looking at to
take the purge. Oh, you probably got to keep keep
him for two or three weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
And did that one taste all right? Did it.

Speaker 13 (01:15:43):
Yeah, it was as good as gold. Yeah, but yeah, no,
they'll say the only one I've had that was a
wild when it was only shot for dog tacker. Even
the dog wouldn't eat it. Is there a true game bird?
Someone said, if you you know, you put it in

(01:16:04):
a muslim bag and hang it, hang it in a
safe or cool store for three or four weeks, it
might improve in flavor.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
That it sounds like it's not worth the hassel.

Speaker 13 (01:16:16):
No, it's not worth the hassle. No, there's a lot
of meat on on a good one. But yeah, they're
just what they do. They can't the rangers they want.

Speaker 10 (01:16:29):
To get rid of them.

Speaker 13 (01:16:29):
They just shoot. They just showed them and or feed
them poisoned grain and and just yeah, you get rid
of them that way.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
Most of the birds at the Hamilton Lake are most
of them Canada geese.

Speaker 13 (01:16:42):
Yeah, there are damn nuisance.

Speaker 12 (01:16:44):
That's because.

Speaker 13 (01:16:47):
Yeah, you know, people walk around the lake.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
And they saw what they're now saying. It's two kilograms
poor bird per bird of excrement.

Speaker 13 (01:16:55):
Yeah, yeah, it's damn nuisance on your shoes. It goes everywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
Oh yeah it's not. Yeah, it's it's it's it's almost
like a semi liquid too. It's not a it's terrible.

Speaker 13 (01:17:08):
Yeah, yeah, I agree with you there, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
Okay, oh well, look I appreciate that that's interesting about
the old oil gland, Steve, but thank you, Marcus. My
sister and I took our four toddlers to the lake
to feed the ducks. The Canada geese came and chased
the ducks away, and they all flocked around us to
get bread and started hissing and fighting. All six of
us climbed onto the roof of the car to get
away from the marauding pack. Some road workers nearby came
and chased them away with their shovels. Of rescued us,

(01:17:33):
we still call the hisses wow. Oh, by the way,
this is interesting. In the UK, children's daily sugar consumption
halved just a year after the sugar tax. The amount

(01:18:00):
of sugar consumed by children from soft drinks in the
UK halved when the Year of the Sugar Tacks been introduced. Tax,
which came to force in April twenty eighteen, has been
so successful that experts have said the expansion together other
high sugar foods and drink products is now a no brainer. Yep,

(01:18:25):
it went from seventy grams to forty five grams a day.
Pretty interesting there about Texas. They work. That's why the
food lobby fought tooth and nail to withhold them. And

(01:18:46):
we're successful with that, by the way, with some other skullduggery. Yeah, John,
A's Marcus. Greetings and good evening. Good thanks, John.

Speaker 14 (01:19:02):
I'm currently driving. Yeah, I'm on a farm. We've got
a lake on our farm and we've been petted with
geese forever in a day. My grandfather, like my uncle,
used to shoot them an occasionally used to eat them.
All they used to do was cut the breast out

(01:19:23):
of them and eat them. But none of us in
the family have that's done that for many years. But
but they held a peace and we struggle to get.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
Rid of them.

Speaker 14 (01:19:33):
They're they're incredibly intelligent, to be honest.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
So people say, what are the numbers, Like this is
on one lake you've got, how would you like a
couple of hectores or smaller than that? That's hectares seven
seventeen one seven or seven zero seven zero, okay? And
how many birds would be on there? A couple of hundred.

Speaker 14 (01:19:55):
Here we're usually between two and four hundred at.

Speaker 3 (01:19:58):
A time, and is that kind of the fixed amount
and that lake can sustain or is the population going.

Speaker 14 (01:20:06):
Up at flatrates filler Sometimes you might get a lot
sty or one hundred, but quite often I'll come and
you know, in a couple of hundred at a time.
But realistically they cause knowing the troubles to the lake,
you know they you know that their manure causes all

(01:20:28):
sorts of nutrient issues with the lake. For a shallow lake,
and where got serious issues with nutrient loading for thousands
of years. There's been birds on the on the lake,
but the last couple of hundred years, but last one
hundred years cheeks and swans also caused quite a vague
issue in terms of manure loading on the.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
Lake and what what ultimately if that tips what ultimately
happens with the lake.

Speaker 14 (01:20:56):
There's not much it can really do, I mean, apart
from shooting and shooting the birds. But we're currently trying
to work things out at the moment. But there's been
a lot of research done around the effects on the lake. Yeah,
but it's such a tricky thing.

Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
But the lake can die, can it doesn't support any life?
Is that what happens.

Speaker 16 (01:21:18):
No, the lake.

Speaker 14 (01:21:19):
The lake had eels and many eels and cocker bodies
by much else. They used to have water muscles. Okay,
I haven't seen them for many years, but yeah, the
gigs are just sur real issue for the lake and
for the farm around it. And to shoot them it
is that that's bloody tough. You might get one or

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two hundreds that have coming, and may get three or four,
but really, yeah, you know, you really want to get
fifteen or one hundred all in one hand. We've tried poisoning,
but you tend to get some other birds in the
mix as well, so it's not a not the best
thing to her, to be honest. So yeah, you vector

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shooting and China hit them, but their bloody and tell
their bloody tough.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
Are you cropping?

Speaker 14 (01:22:10):
Yeah, wear cheap beefs some crops.

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:22:14):
Are there is there a cost on how much they're
ruining your crops?

Speaker 14 (01:22:20):
I haven't worked it out, but the paddocks around the
lake that tend to be poisoned by the manure, maybe
at certain times in the year they sort of come
and garb it, so you might you might the crop
and the way they might try and graze some out,
but then they'll come and you know, if it's just grass,

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they end up sitting in the middle of the paddock.
They'll flying at night because they know they get shot
during the day. I'll flying at night and I'll graze
at night and then be gone early.

Speaker 18 (01:22:49):
In the morning.

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
Well heartbreaking, yeah, okay, yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:22:53):
So tricky.

Speaker 3 (01:22:54):
Have you thought of hurting them during the molten too?
A pen.

Speaker 14 (01:22:59):
My Cartain is a shooter on Lake Elsmere and they
round up all the flappers about to thousand and the
year and they had to inject each one of them
to kill them, which seemed like a waste. You could actually,
if you're not knock them on the heads, you can
then provide them to yo things. To be honest, I've

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got to be process for food.

Speaker 3 (01:23:23):
So you gotta and you gotta. You've got to inject
you round them up, you've got to inject them individually.

Speaker 14 (01:23:27):
Yeah, bloody stupid and the outer cast Okay, yeah, but no,
we haven't done it.

Speaker 7 (01:23:34):
We haven't tried it.

Speaker 14 (01:23:35):
We don't get to get flappers on the farnel. We
just sort of get that sort of one year old
and older.

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
Out of on your farm. When it comes to everything else,
rabbits and the like, that'd be the biggest. They're the
biggest use in so are they the Canada geese.

Speaker 14 (01:23:51):
They would actually have to be. Yeah, they to do
the most damage. I mean, when we have pegs, we
have dear but they're reasonally manageable. We have tears which
cause all sorts of issues with their irrigation and rabbits,
but they come and go. No, I'd say the Geezer
talked about the words in terms of crop damage and
stock is shoes in terms of poisoning.

Speaker 3 (01:24:13):
Okay, neat to hear from you, John, thanks so much
for that. There we go seventy away from eleven. John
Att's Marcus, good evening.

Speaker 19 (01:24:21):
Hello, it's John speaking. I was just ringing with a
bit of history. My father used to have a sheep
station up the espert And Gorge and all the rounholders
were battling. This would be at least forty years ago,
and the Canada geese were a real problem then for them,
and they were used to there was always a battle

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between those days. They were protected and there's always a
battle with the local ranger.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
You know.

Speaker 19 (01:24:53):
He wanted to catch them out and they would heard
them and flappers and do away them by whacking them
with a mustering stick, which I couldn't I couldn't be there,
I couldn't do that. But anyway, they would always trying
to keep the numbers down. And then one day I
heard that they were going to take a few up
to why Ketto and introduce them there. Yeah, no kidding

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in the local runholders says, you're mad, but you know
they thought, oh, I know that the story was there
was that many shooters in Auckland, that in the North Island,
that they would keep the numbers down. Well guess he's
been proven right there by all your phone calls.

Speaker 3 (01:25:35):
Yeah, so you know, you know in your father's time, right,
it was the It was the the game shooters that
were protecting them because they wanted to be able to
shoot them. That is that what drove the whole movement
of keeping them.

Speaker 19 (01:25:51):
Yeah, well they were introduced, I guess, and the ranger
because they were protected.

Speaker 3 (01:25:55):
That was his job to yea. And they're protected something.
They're protected because they're a game bird, right.

Speaker 19 (01:26:00):
Yeah, I imagine there was a season. I don't I
can't remember the details there, but you know, I suppose
we're allowed to kill the young ones, of course, but
in the finish the ranger, the numbers built up. There's
always an argument about how many were in all the
local farmers with their precious autumn feed were getting it
tramped and eaten by the geese at night, you know.

(01:26:20):
And you couldn't with such a scope up there, you
couldn't beat the beggars. But one thing I'd dislike to
remember that no one's talking about is the pollution of
our waterways. You said, how minutes they poo out the back,
but you can't tell me they don't go out in
the lake and hold on. They must let go. And
you know, it's basically it sounds very like.

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
The rabbit introduction.

Speaker 19 (01:26:43):
To me, it's been a disaster.

Speaker 3 (01:26:45):
And you're right. I read when I was googling up
beforehand it did say that they've become a problem, the
white cat on Auckland because there were more recently introduced
up there for games. That's crazy. But the guy rang
beforehand he is a professional hunter called ditch right. He's
he's a lot of his workers hunting them on the

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or Con Regional council, you know, the reservoir damns they're following,
which which can't be good, I mean with bird flow,
and they like that's the bad thing in it.

Speaker 19 (01:27:15):
Yeah, I know, they're just too good at breeding, and
they're very smart, and they the hearing's very good. I
can remember riding out on a motorbike to just chase
them off the paddicks, you know, with gunshot, but you
never got anything. But they even up there. At one time,
they even had a go of herding them onto a
lake with an aeroplane and I was there then and

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they you know, and they shot them with several shooters.
It was all top secret in those days because the
the you know, the ranger, if he found out, they
would they would get them in deep trouble. But anyway,
I think the geese, I'm not sure what the situation
is now. My father hasn't got the place up there,
but you know, they were just too good at breeding

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and too smart. And they eat this precious tacker that
you go into the winter with for your animals, you
know sort of thing, and they stand on, you know,
in the frost than that the big feet, big mobs
they used to stand on the feed and you know,
ruin it that way as well, sort of thing. But
I think you know, I don't know if anyone's done
any real research, but you know, we're always New Zealand's

(01:28:20):
big on cleaning up our waterways. I would have thought,
you know, these are doing it under our very noses,
you know. I know around Lake Elves, round Lake Elsbire,
they're doing all sorts of things to try and clean
up the water. And the sell and huts are being
shut down because they're polluting the lake Elsmere.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
Et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 19 (01:28:40):
But here's these millions of birds or whatever number is
on the lake itself, and they eat on the surrounds
and then go on the lake and pull it straight
in the water well, and no one's blinking. I about that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
I take your points, John nicely made. Thank you. Marcus.
Always talking about geese reminds me of saying is nerv
of the saying is nervous as a goose and a
Douvet factory. Marcus. The bombing of the Rainbow Warrior is
such a shocking and arrogant act by France, all about
them wanting to get to the nuclear testing in the
Pacific and not own up to the effect on people
and places there. You go, Yeah, I don't think anyone

(01:29:21):
thought that the French were smart by doing it, and
ultimately because of that pressure they stopped. Well, that's amazing.
They were doing it for so long, really, right until
the well write into the nineties, I think. Anyway, get
in touch if you want to talk me talking Canada
geese and this date eighty five, eighty five, the rain

(01:29:43):
eighty four, Let me just bring that up. But anyway,
eight hundred and eighty tenty and nine to nine de
text if you want to be a part of it,
Marcus till twelve it would have been nirty five to
I remember it well, Trevor, it's Marcus.

Speaker 12 (01:29:55):
Good evening good Marcus. Yeah, just a quick source on
Canada geese. So I would agree with Steve. They're actually
done good eating. Not sure quite what the objection is
to them, but they cook up beautifully in a slow

(01:30:16):
cooker and make a lovely games too. Yeah. Can't agree
with the people who say they're the devil with feathers
or something. You know. Look, I'm very sympathetic to the
people who have geese as a problem, and I realize
that down in the South Island and in the high Country,

(01:30:40):
and that they have been far too numerous and I
don't know how people can control them in that big country.
They are such strong flyers and they're, like one of
you earlier callers said, incredibly intelligent animals. And as a

(01:31:01):
result of that, they're going to be fairly hard to
bring down in terms of their numbers. Some areas didn't
have them at all. I'm thinking of parts of Taranaki
and so on where they are now appearing. And I think,

(01:31:23):
again your earlier callers have sort of shed a lot
of light on that there aren't so many shooters. There
isn't the number of shooters out there to control them,
regardless of the fact that they can now be shot
all year around, and so the numbers will obviously continue

(01:31:45):
to increase. Don't know really how again, what you do
about that. I'm one of those people who sees them
as as quite a noble sort of a bird. I'm
not romanticizing them or anything like that, but if you
watch them a little bit, they are I think, quite

(01:32:08):
quite amazing to watch in terms of the strength of
their flight and in terms of their social characteristics, and
you know, the way they look after one another in
the in the flocks and things like that. It's quite interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:32:25):
I'll be curious though, from a tagged one how far
they roam and fly?

Speaker 12 (01:32:31):
Oh I would I would think that they could travel
a tremendous distance if they chose to. I think probably
they have a home base and and would prefer to
stay around that area if they've got some water and
you know, food and the conditions for a reasonable sort

(01:32:55):
of living. But but my guess is, as you're hinting,
that they could cover an enormous distance if they really
wanted to be.

Speaker 3 (01:33:04):
I hadn't heard, but there peared to be in Northland.
Well they're paid to be. I hadn't really recognized them
in Auckland, but they are a problem there and they
are a problems in Northland.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:33:13):
I don't know about those areas, but certainly in parts
of Taranaki where I visit, the numbers are definitely increasing,
no question about it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:29):
You just look at the I see Northland Northern District
Council North and Regional Council have got notices warning about
yeah about them. Late nineteen sixties they established in the
North islds for introductions as game birds. So it makes
you wonder about the game people, whether it be birds
or deer or whatever they go on about it. But

(01:33:50):
I wonder how well they are good at managing things
if they've actually supported the Canada geese going right around
the country.

Speaker 12 (01:33:57):
Yeah, I think these things are a bit of a
tightrope walk and away. I imagine that the old guys
who were keen to release from one hundred years ago
further back, didn't for one moment imagine that they were

(01:34:18):
going to become as prolific as what they are.

Speaker 3 (01:34:21):
You know, they're taking them at they're interest seemed to
the North and then in the nineteen seventies to the
Whiteadow in Northland and Auckland, which kind of seems daft
on it.

Speaker 12 (01:34:30):
It does, it does, Yeah, I think you've got to
be pretty careful about that. Unfortunately, they seem to be
pretty much all over the country now one way or another.

Speaker 3 (01:34:43):
I didn't think they're around in Southland because I haven't
seen them bluff, but people to a Tarpli and the
wire Rither say they're all there. So there must be
some reason. They must be the feed for them there
or something.

Speaker 12 (01:34:53):
Yeah, I don't know. But for the North I have
some friends at Tiano who hunt them, and so they must.
They must be around in that part of the South Island,
but Cloud I'm not sure about Sassouf.

Speaker 2 (01:35:09):
Was you okay?

Speaker 3 (01:35:11):
Okay, I'll look nice to talk to Trevor. Thank you
that we are talking Canada Geese. It's fourteen parts eleven.
There's something else you feel judy bound to mention tonight.
That's going to be nice to hear from you. I
see Sephora the retailers to close in Queen Street. They're
the ones that caused all that fuss when they opened
with all the confetti and stuff that was going into
the waterways. They've got two other stores in Auckland, New

(01:35:31):
Market and Sylvia Park. I never know what they sell.
This is an interesting story. A protection perimeter drawn around
the Endurance, one of the world's greatest shipwrecks, has been
widened from a radius of five hundred meters to fifteen
hundred meters. The extended zone will further limit activities close

(01:35:56):
to the vessel, which sank in nineteen fifteen during an
ill fated Antarctic expedition led by celebrated polar explorerer Innes Shackleton.
Already no one should retrieve or even touch objects in
the protected zone. The perimeter update is a recognition that
the debris from Endurance, including Crewe belongings, may be strewn

(01:36:18):
across a larger area of ocean floor than previously thought.
The ship lies three thousand meters down in the Weddell Sea.
Of course too, the ship had already broken up before
it sank. Was a collier, I think, with thick walls,

(01:36:44):
got struck in the got stuck in the ice a
unseasonally cold summer and winter, and it got ource bound
and then of course crushed. But yeah, that was amazing
when they found that. Two years ago March twenty twenty two,
they found the ship. It's been called the single most

(01:37:04):
difficult wreck to find anywhere on the globe. Pretty amazing
they found it. It says very few people have the
expertise to visit the Endurance today, but this is unlikely
always to be the case, and as the world warms
and the frozen floes in the Polar South catered to retreat,
opportunities to access the wreck will increase. It says. Deep

(01:37:28):
diving technology is certain to become more capable, which raises
the worrying prospect of looting or of crash damage resulting
from careless submersible operations, and also fishing is sure to
become more commonplace in the Weddell Sea, and the risk
of trawlers discarded getting tangled in the wreck as an

(01:37:49):
additional concern. There you go. Of course, the crew reached
Elephant Island in the other boat, the James Cared, which
I think is restored in somewhere. Anyway, that would be
of interest to some of those Shackleton nuts. People seem
to love them. Huntley alone has one hundred and they

(01:38:12):
wreck the paddocks, eat out good grazing, and defecate everywhere.
Trump's never played a game of golf. We didn't cheating. Well,
that would be the excitement of watching it. There'd be
cameras there, Marcus, Canada geese are a peace. They difficate
in paddics and where they crap it does not grow
back the grass. They are not native. Well this is

(01:38:38):
I mean, everyone knows this, this is what we've talked
about all night. No one says they should be protected,
no one. No one's pro Canada geese. Right, it's a
bit stating the obvious. There eighteen past eleven, Marcus till twelve.
There's different stuff you want to talk about. I can
handle that maybe nice not to be talking about g

(01:39:00):
strings again. Lambertas, it's Marcus. Good evening and welcome I Lambertas.

Speaker 20 (01:39:06):
Hello, it's your your local voice projector here.

Speaker 10 (01:39:10):
How do you go?

Speaker 3 (01:39:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:39:11):
Good?

Speaker 6 (01:39:12):
What's up?

Speaker 14 (01:39:13):
Oh?

Speaker 8 (01:39:14):
Are you bring up these geese? And I'm thinking, you know,
we we've had football matches at Bay Mid.

Speaker 20 (01:39:19):
Park canceled because really the old geese had managed to
take over the whole pitch just pre season and use
it as a defication post area or area really so you.

Speaker 3 (01:39:32):
Can play because of the geese or because of the
state of the field.

Speaker 20 (01:39:36):
Because here the amount of the guano that was there
or whatever.

Speaker 10 (01:39:41):
Yeah, doesn't worry me.

Speaker 3 (01:39:43):
Read but anyway, cow many years ago?

Speaker 12 (01:39:46):
Was that?

Speaker 6 (01:39:47):
Oh it was only this only about three.

Speaker 3 (01:39:50):
Months ago and the match was canceled.

Speaker 20 (01:39:53):
Yeah, we we had to use other pictures elsewhere.

Speaker 3 (01:39:56):
M hm god goodness, okay, wow, anything else.

Speaker 2 (01:40:04):
I couldn't think of.

Speaker 8 (01:40:05):
It's quite now, you know, on the way.

Speaker 3 (01:40:07):
Home, you know, either way home from what ah just been.

Speaker 20 (01:40:11):
Helping a friends doing a bit of work at his place.
Oh yeah, between football training.

Speaker 3 (01:40:18):
Have you eaten Canada geese?

Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
No?

Speaker 20 (01:40:21):
No, no, you would think there could be a bit
of a market, wouldn't there, you know, it could be
could be good for feeding some people.

Speaker 3 (01:40:28):
People say they've got an oil glend that actually taints
all their food and it tastes quite unpleasant. So I'm
kind of getting two schools a thought of people, whether
it's it's worth eating or not.

Speaker 8 (01:40:39):
Yeah, I don't know it did.

Speaker 20 (01:40:40):
Actually, when you were about people farming geese, you know,
aren't some geese farmed for there for the royal glend
for particular things or this, or their.

Speaker 3 (01:40:49):
Livers or I know, the farm their livers in cral practice,
I don't know they're farm for their for the oil glend.
Is it using perfume or something?

Speaker 2 (01:40:57):
Is it?

Speaker 14 (01:40:59):
Or maybe maybe?

Speaker 10 (01:41:01):
Yeah, it wouldn't even if the arapists that want to
do that.

Speaker 3 (01:41:05):
Yeah, okay, well looked up lampourdos. But nice to hear
from you. Thank you, goose and the oil gland. Here
we go. I've got an article from Jestic Waterfowl. We
get quite a few emails about oil glands and feather issue.

(01:41:28):
The oil gland is just about the tail of a
duck or goose. You will frequently see a bird taking
the bill they were preening together. You just spread over
the feathers using their combs inside their bill. Wow. So
this is the thing. It's like there, it's like their Wow.

(01:41:51):
It's their wet weather kind of center. They're waterproofing. Had
no idea about that. It's called the uropigeal gland, the
preme land or the oil gland. Had no idea. It's

(01:42:16):
the waterproofing unit. Ducks Petrol's pelicans yep. And in fact,
with a flamingo it gives it their pink color. Huh.
Learning By the way, Jacob Ree's mog the cartoon Tory right,

(01:42:42):
they're going to make a TV show about him and
his children. It's called the British Kadeshians.

Speaker 2 (01:42:53):
Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:42:57):
Given the kids all net all Latin names. Alfred Wolfrick Layson, Pyrus, Sixtus, Dominic, Boniface,
Christopher Thomas went with Somerset, Dunston, Peter, Theodore, Alfige, Mary, Anna, Charlotte, Emma,
Helena and Beatrix went with Fitzwilliam and Sam Charles Fitzwilliam.

(01:43:18):
They're the ubertofs. If they're making a TV show about them,
could be good, could be bad, depends how dysfunctional the
family is. I suppose sets the news from the UK
and get in touch if you want to talk. Marcus
till twelve oh, eight hundred and eighty eighteen, a pet

(01:43:39):
Colbert from Dallas has died age seventy seven. She was
Dora May. Someone will remember that, Marie, it's Marcus welcome.

Speaker 9 (01:43:51):
Oh are you talking to me?

Speaker 12 (01:43:53):
Mark?

Speaker 3 (01:43:53):
Is your name Marie?

Speaker 15 (01:43:55):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:43:55):
I am okay, Well I'm talking to you.

Speaker 9 (01:43:57):
And I'm from from fan Nui by the beautiful River
God and I live not far from the railway bridge
and the railway line. I have to cross it when
I go on to town, the railway line.

Speaker 13 (01:44:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:44:09):
And my father was on the railway years ago. He
ended up as a guard at Ty Happy and then
he left and we didn't like leaving Ty Happy.

Speaker 12 (01:44:18):
No worry brothers and me.

Speaker 9 (01:44:20):
But anyway, I wanted to talk about decimal currency. Yes,
the show I was a teacher in Dannybook at the
time that came in on the tenth of July this
year was the ad on radio and it.

Speaker 13 (01:44:36):
Got really really boring.

Speaker 15 (01:44:39):
In the end.

Speaker 9 (01:44:41):
Plus also we had this funny mat that was given
to us for the education board, and then you had
to frisk the kids before they left for home so
that they would cough with this plastic money.

Speaker 3 (01:44:55):
See if it was given plastic money? Right, yeah, I'd
like to say that.

Speaker 9 (01:44:59):
Okay, yep, I had got one, I think one coin
here here still and I could send it down to you.

Speaker 3 (01:45:06):
The whole set. I wanted pristine.

Speaker 9 (01:45:09):
Bring up an education board or who's the minister of education?

Speaker 7 (01:45:14):
Now?

Speaker 3 (01:45:15):
I don't know. I don't know if we've got one?
Have we?

Speaker 12 (01:45:17):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:45:17):
Probably not?

Speaker 9 (01:45:18):
Were they all were in New Zealand?

Speaker 3 (01:45:21):
Were they on cardboard? Were they kind of peckagistic?

Speaker 11 (01:45:25):
It was past?

Speaker 3 (01:45:26):
But were how did they? How were they? How were
they presented?

Speaker 9 (01:45:30):
Just like what the real coins were going?

Speaker 6 (01:45:33):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (01:45:33):
But they didn't come an envelope for a first day covery.
They just you just gave them out, did you.

Speaker 12 (01:45:38):
He just threw the class.

Speaker 9 (01:45:40):
Room and told them to pick them up. Come and
tell us what coin they had?

Speaker 3 (01:45:45):
A really simple after the old pound, shilling and pence,
which was quite complicated, wasn't it.

Speaker 9 (01:45:48):
It was in mathematics, terrible Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:45:52):
The kids handle it well, yeah, they loved it, okay.

Speaker 9 (01:45:56):
And so did I. But I also wanted to tell
you how I live near an old rest home, and
we wanted to know who these new people who have
come to live there are because they're going to work
for f Co the meatk it works.

Speaker 3 (01:46:15):
It's hard to get freezing works people where they come from?

Speaker 9 (01:46:18):
They came from viet Nam, Oh wow. And they go
by taxi to the meat works, which is quite a
long way from here. Yeah. And I got into trouble
trying to find out last Saturday morning. I knocked on
the door and this young guy comes to the door
and I'm saying, oh, all my neighbors want to know
where you come from. So he said Vietnam. With that,

(01:46:42):
fire alarm goes and all of these young people, men
and woman, come out and stand near the foot path,
and out comes this Kiwi guy in his hot suit
with fire department written on the back, and he quizzes
them who pressed the fire alarm and none of them

(01:47:04):
say it a thing. And he said it again and again.
Then this young guy slowly walks up to the front
and he gets told off, and I think he was
given a job to do. Then the s guy turns
on me and says, where do you come from? I said,
I'm a neighbor, and our neighbors nosyink.

Speaker 3 (01:47:29):
That's the best way to welcome your neighbors and ask
them where they're from.

Speaker 9 (01:47:33):
Yeah, I think you're allowed to do that in New Zealand.

Speaker 3 (01:47:36):
It's not really. I don't know. I feel a bit
funny about that.

Speaker 9 (01:47:40):
Well, I thought it was funny.

Speaker 13 (01:47:42):
Where did you think a teacher?

Speaker 3 (01:47:45):
Why we're in the opposite of why we're so keen
to know where they were from?

Speaker 9 (01:47:50):
Well, all my neighbors are saying, do you know where
those people come from? And I'm thinking no, because that
used to be all old people in there. A friend
of mine was a resident there, and I went to go.

Speaker 3 (01:48:02):
You need a neighborhood picnic or a party for them.
They won't be feeling good with people say we're from.
I felt awkward about that.

Speaker 9 (01:48:08):
Do you really?

Speaker 3 (01:48:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:48:10):
I didn't feel a bit awkward. And then I remembered
there's a retired principle from our Moho school just around
the corner. So I walked round to see Henry four
and I said, Henry, do you know where those kids
come from? Round at the old Lady Joy Rest home
And he didn't, So he invited me in while he

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had his breakfast, and he gave me a cup of
tea and we started to talk about all sorts of
things to do with education.

Speaker 3 (01:48:40):
Great, great, I thought it was.

Speaker 9 (01:48:43):
I enjoyed myself.

Speaker 3 (01:48:44):
Are you still teaching?

Speaker 9 (01:48:46):
No, No, I'm too old.

Speaker 3 (01:48:48):
I'll be eighty, yeah, don't be ridiculous.

Speaker 13 (01:48:51):
Eighteen no, eight eight zero.

Speaker 9 (01:48:55):
But I did do spelled tuition one on one with
kids with autism and dyslexia and that sort of thing.

Speaker 3 (01:49:05):
Are your guests at the rest home at the freezing works?
Is there english good here?

Speaker 9 (01:49:10):
I thought it was excellent? Yeah, so I thought, oh
I was going to offer any of them needed help
with reading because of my spelled training.

Speaker 3 (01:49:21):
That's I'm thinking too.

Speaker 21 (01:49:23):
Yes.

Speaker 9 (01:49:26):
And the lady taught me for spelled. Her name is
Esther Williams.

Speaker 13 (01:49:33):
Do you know?

Speaker 9 (01:49:34):
Esther Williams was another ister Williams, a film star, and
she swam and all her films. Williams is a great woman.

Speaker 15 (01:49:46):
She jimps everywhere.

Speaker 9 (01:49:48):
She and I have done the Otago Rail Trail bike
ride together, and we don't often teach kids because we're
so busy out in the great outdoors.

Speaker 3 (01:50:01):
Him lay is a freezing work, say em no, f
oh yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:50:07):
The older niece used to work there in the office.

Speaker 3 (01:50:11):
What were Ester Williams's movies?

Speaker 9 (01:50:14):
I don't know any of those. Some older people than
me would probably know older than eighty.

Speaker 3 (01:50:22):
I can't think what if films were No.

Speaker 9 (01:50:24):
I can't either. I might have seen a few when
I was a kid and we lived at Martin and
we went up by bus from the railway station in
the afternoon to go to the movies, and then the
bus brought us home again. We didn't walk too far.

Speaker 3 (01:50:39):
I think it's opposite Clark Gable and somewhere I'll find you.
Does that ring a bell?

Speaker 12 (01:50:43):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:50:44):
No, Andy Hardy's Double Life. A guy named Joe.

Speaker 9 (01:50:47):
Babs what book are you looking at?

Speaker 3 (01:50:50):
Bathing Beauty? She's starting? They could do that you plym
with Pools.

Speaker 9 (01:50:53):
Yeah, and I hope Yester Williams is asleep our Easter
Williams will I'll be in trouble exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:51:00):
I believe you go before we get more trouble. Marcus
Kenada geese would be delicious of cook properly. German people
cook goose all the time. You have with a different geese,
and it's Marcus.

Speaker 11 (01:51:09):
Hello, Hi, Marcus.

Speaker 21 (01:51:12):
I live in the Far North and you're after you
on the Far North where the geese are up here.
They came on Mount Camel opposite home, well, right up
the top. Yeah, and they make a real messine. Every
year all the shooters up here go out and have
a big blaze up and shoot them. This year they

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came across. These birds are so cunning. They got in
behind all the wild pigs, so when the shooters went
to have a big shooter, they had to get through
all the world pigs first.

Speaker 2 (01:51:44):
Wow.

Speaker 21 (01:51:45):
Yeah, but they do make a hell of a mess
of the farmland. And they breathe prolifically.

Speaker 3 (01:51:53):
And you've been there for a while, have you am.

Speaker 21 (01:51:57):
I've been here now for thirty years.

Speaker 3 (01:51:59):
And they've always been there, or they're coming. They're in
bigger numbers more recently, our bigger numbers.

Speaker 21 (01:52:05):
Well, they've been here in big numbers for quite a
while now. And each year all the shooters get out
and you know, have a big blaze up and cut
the numbers down. But the next year it's up again.

Speaker 3 (01:52:20):
See, there must have been a lot of wild pigs
there as well.

Speaker 21 (01:52:23):
Here's a lot of wild pigs. Yeah, wild wild dogs.
Even the dogs don't eat them.

Speaker 3 (01:52:30):
Yeah, I've heard the street that the wild dogs it's
always quite terrifying. But anyway, it's amazing about the wild
pigs of the would make a good video. I'd think it.

Speaker 21 (01:52:39):
Would make a good movie. You could make a good
movie out of it.

Speaker 3 (01:52:42):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, nice to talk to you and thank you.
There we go. That's it for me. Time for me
to go to bed. People back tomorrow night. Jim steaded
along next, That's a night on Canada Geese. Not what
I expected to do, but enjoyed that greatly.

Speaker 1 (01:52:55):
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