Who doesn't love a retro thrill (14 June 2024)

Marcus discusses making rugby better, collection succession plans, moving to Australia, and why NZers love to support England in international football.

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Marcus lush Nights podcast from newstalksed
be height seven.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
If not now, will be in twelve seconds. Welcome with
every My name is Marcus hurdled twelve. Tonight. I'll keep
out data with a Rugby two fifteen thousand people. They're
disappointing crowd for the semi Blues versus the Brumby. So
Brumbies are down the Blues in looking to score. If
that went right, they'd be up to twenty twenty twenty
seven could be good if they kicked that.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
That is.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Interesting. I don't know if anyone's going to call about
rugby tonight. I was listening, no lot listening. I was
reading about some of the comp some of the comments
Eddie Jones had made about rugby. He said it's a
game that's bankrupt, and he reckons what rugby needs. Right.
This is Eddie Jones, who no I much likes, but
sometimes he's but the human headline. He says what rugby needs,

(00:55):
it needs the rugby equivalent of twenty twenty cricket. Now,
I'm not entirely sure what that is. I think he
thought it might be twelve the side. Now I don't
know if that's a thing or not, if that would be.
But it seemed as though the game had a bit
of a reject But anyway, you reject things too often,

(01:16):
you lose all of it. So look, we might even
talk about that. I've got nothing much planned tonight for
the show because I think it's gonna be a b
and a bits and Bobby. There'll be people doing all
sorts of stuff. The weather's not great. There'll be people
at the rugby. There'll be people watching the rugby. That
we people watching the league. That'll be people watching the basketball.
Although I hear Tony say it was the Southland Sharks

(01:38):
were the bottom. I thought I thought the Parmeerston North
team was at the bottom one or two. So anyway,
but forty two eighteen in the first quarter, that's not
looking good at all. Anyway, get in touch if you
want to talk about any of these things. But there
will be room for the show to breathe tonight. There
be a lot of stuff. Oh, I've had the kids
home sick today too. They've got some bug going around

(02:00):
the school. Oh so yeah, they're not in a good
ployer there. I mean, you know what kids are like.
Kids bounce back quite quickly hopefully, but yes, which is
a shame because the boy's got Rugby tomorrow and we
disappointed to miss that. So that we're looking forward to
trudging around bluff tomorrow morning. But that's not going to happen.

(02:24):
The Taranaki year is by the way over the south
in Sharks at the situation now anyway, So look, we
will give the show a chance to talk about what
you want to talk about tonight. I feel fairly resigned
to have a fairly chilled out show. But yeah, I
watched a bit of off. I kind of I wish

(02:45):
I'd got a bit more involved in the T twenty
Cricket World Cup because parp on New Guinea, I can't
imagine that. I don't know what happens with cricket there,
but you know, they look they were keen. Unfortunately Afghanistan
go at the end was hitting sixers off them. But
you know one there of course as well, terribly underattended

(03:05):
cricket tournament. They've got you Gander tomorrow, so I'm sure
there's some great stories there of players that have made
it for the local team. But anyway, I wasn't saying
much of that. I thought Luke Ronky's comments to a
little bit thin during the news that we're representing our
but late. Yeah, Brian Marcus, good evening and welcome.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
You know, Marcus, hows it going good?

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Thank you, Brian. What do you want to tell me?

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Or I just heard your comment and by the way,
I love your show. I heard you comment around You
know what, we need a T twenty format for rugby
and we've already got it, and we had it the
Rugby seven's and they got rid of it.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
I don't necessarily know that that's what Eddie Jones was
referring to, because I was thinking exactly the same thing.
And I think they want the game that's got the
line outs and the scrums, well but a bit more
of the Yeah, they wanted kind of a hybrid between
the sevens and the fifteen match. So what would that

(04:04):
look like?

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Oh I don't know what that would look like. But
I mean the T twenty. If you're a cricketer, you
know that the T twenty isn't real cricket. It's just
a big bash. It's just all about offense. It's about attack,
it's about scoring.

Speaker 5 (04:18):
That's what rugby seven's is.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
And you know we had a great thing going in
Wellington and you know T twenty. I've been to T
twenty before and it's a great atmosphere. It's very vibrant,
generally a lot of drinking, you know, people dressing up,
and we had that.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
In rugby seven's and apparently it was.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Too much, you know, it's too you know, just too
much energy and they got rid of it. Maybe I
think what Eddie Jones is I think he's using the
wrong metaphor for what he wants. He's looking for something that,
you know, maybe is bridging the gap to you know,
combined rugby with league. You know, maybe he's thinking, our
league's exciting, lots of scoring, seems to be easier to watch.

(04:56):
How can we make it more like league? Because if
they were T twenty, we've got it.

Speaker 6 (05:00):
It already exists.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
I think the point for T twenty with I think
T twenty is playing the bills. Now it's made the
whole the IPL fore. You know, there's huge money there
and it funds everything.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
So well, what didn't they bring back the rugby sevens?
I mean, I think there was lots of money invested
in that, right people you could you couldn't you know,
buy a ticket for love or money. You know, they'd
sell out all the time.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Kind of people got sick of it though, didn't.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
They No, no one got sick of it. The only
pomple that they got sick of it were the police,
you know, and the local politician and the nimbis who
didn't want you know, the noise and the drunk people
and everything else. It was a great time.

Speaker 7 (05:39):
Well.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
I always thought if you had to dress up as
as a naughty nurse and get drunk to enjoy a game,
it doesn't make it a great That means the spectacles
not great. That was always my thought when it came
to sevens.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
Oh no, I mean the football itself, I mean the
footy itself was probably secondary to you know, the actual
event was you know, the people, the fans more than
I mean, I look having gone myself, you know it
said I didn't watch the whole game, You're watching the
crowd more than anything. But it was such a good
atmosphere and it was a good advertisement for what rugby

(06:13):
could be like someone would go to the seven. I mean,
I've never been into rugby, but this is quite exciting.
I wonder what real rugby looks like.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
This is former Wallaby's coach to his rugby union is
not financially sustainable in its current form and needs to
innovate to survive. The truth is outside the top forty
in a Rugby World Cup, rugby isn't a sustainable product
without outside investment.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Well, I mean they need to be. I mean everyone
talks about, oh we need more fans or we need
to go to more countries and they need to be
played in more places. Well, how many more countries than
places can you get? You've got football like soccer, you've
got basketball, I mean even in European balls probably bigger
than rugby and rugby league. You know, maybe they need

(06:57):
a combined league and union.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
Well maybe the game's done is dash, you know, maybe
that's over. Maybe they've had one hundred years of it
and people want something different to do. I don't know
the answer to that, but I'm just trying to work
out what a twelve what a twelve a side game
would look like.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Oh, there'd be more scoring, but I don't know who play.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Because you've got more space, So you've got more space,
So it's a highest scoring match.

Speaker 3 (07:17):
It did have to be high scoring that you know,
you did need more you more fit people, more wingers,
you know, not so many forwards. You probably get away.
You probably do away with the scrum as well. You
just say, look, that's just too slow because to play
the ball. You know, things like.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
That count me out. Brian, I'm not going to watch that.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
Oh, but that's the thing. You've got to produce something
that's exciting, that's fast, lots of high scoring because look,
I'm actually a basketball fan myself, and I watched the
NBA a lot, and the NBA to me, is not
what it used to be. I'm a big nineties fan,
and it used to be very low scoring. Every point,

(07:56):
every score meant something because it was so hard to
get the ball in the hoop. Whereas now you know,
there's no defense, it's just scoring, and it really littles
you know what the value of a score is. It
says you just know, well, someone's going to score. It
says who can score the most rather than who can
you know, play the best basketball?

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Nice to talk, right, and enjoyed that a great deal
more than you can imagine. Fifteen past eight, My name's Marcus.
Welcome twenty seven thirteen Blues over the Breus. The Brumbies
by the way too. I have something else I've had
to say, but I appreciate you, Brian. It's good to
get a nice conversation, to get the whole go around.
So last night we talked about vegetable soup, and I

(08:39):
got I've made a big old thing of vegetable soup.
You know, what are those things called that you buy
from overseas, those French kind of pots anyway, in one
of those, and I got it this mory. I looked
at this, I thought that's not good. Too many different flavors.
So I'm going to strip it right back. So I
started from scratch. I thought, that's soup I'm not happy with.

(08:59):
And it had cool shit, and it had all sorts
of stuff, and so I stripped it right back and
I just did the Kings mix. I just did the leak,
the onion, the garlic, a little bit of ginger, then
the Kings mix, then just carrot and celery. And I
did put the two stock cubes in after last night,
vegetarian stock cubes, because we all know the key to
a good vegetable soups meat, and I wanted to stay

(09:22):
true to the core. And it was good. It was
really good, apart from the kids throwing up afterwards because
they were unwell, but yeah, it was good soup. So
there you go. I think I've cracked that. So I
think I've found my soup and I'll tweak it now.
If anything, I wanted more liquid in it. I did
the nine cups. Probably next time i'll do twelve cups.
I'm not saying I'm a soup gur who don't ask
me for the recipe. I'll by the way too. Now

(09:48):
I meant to tell you this. The Bluff School is
having a school trip to Rock Euro Stuart Island and
there's a fundraiser which they're selling a recipe pock. It's
twenty dollars, lots of seafood recipes in it. If you

(10:12):
want to copy, email me and we'll post it out
for free. So I just as I left the house,
Finics said, that's what we've got to do. We've got
to do the old You've got to sell some of
the cockbox. That's pretty old school. I don't know how
many per family we've got to sell. But if you're

(10:34):
like I know some people are like collect or cockbook obsessives,
because you won't get cookbox for much longer, and it
all be internet pages. So there's some classic recipes. I
haven't fully looked at it yet. I was going to
a bread sandwich, but I don't think they're interested in that.
Pauline as Marcus good evening.

Speaker 8 (10:55):
Oh Hello, how are you Marcus well Good Pauling. Yeah,
so I'm not very happy to that. I'm not a
happy Chappye. They're going to Flora date down water in
North Otiger stung on us. It was in the paper
market tonight.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Mass medication of the population.

Speaker 8 (11:14):
Of course it is. Even though I'm eighty five. Next month,
I've got to spend money that I'll have to borrow
to get a jet in to take the flu ride out, okay,
and I've got insurance and stuff. Say this, Michael Baker
or Ashley Boomfields is forcing it onto the council. Forty
years ago the.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Same thing was so for I can't with all the
earnestes in the world, I can't be bothered if you're
eighty five and are worried, because the irony is and
I don't want to take called it florid, but the
irony is the majority of a great deal of time
in operating theaters is spent removing all of children's teeth

(11:54):
because their teeth. Healthcare is so bad because they've got
unfluoridated water. So I've got huge We've got huge waiting
lists in hospitals because so much of the operation time
is spent for people with oral hygiene. But I'm not
going to get into if you at eighty five are
going to get so worked up about fluoride. You're too
self obsessed, Pauline that you are your self absorbed. Start

(12:20):
thinking of others and their teeth.

Speaker 8 (12:22):
Well, let them go to the dentist. I don't want
it in my water.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Seeps escalated anyway, were sweeze at the end, there got
a fright, but she didn't want to goodness gracious, Yeah, markets, Marcus,
good evening and welcome.

Speaker 9 (12:44):
Oh hi Marcus. Just one point in order to make
hopefully a useful one. I get leak and potato soup.
It's sort of a and I get it up at
a caf and era. It's a case really better than
anything homemade.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Which which cafe and you era?

Speaker 9 (13:05):
I don't want to you know it's called vicky one.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Oh you're on the corner there. I'll tell you what's
good Usbeck and Remers the other day. Right, and I'm
a long time student of Rimoela. But they because it's
never had a second hand shop. But that dove shop
opposite the Vicky, won't you that's a well run shop.
And then that's tremendous.

Speaker 9 (13:27):
You've been in there, Yeah, I got two pairs of
shoes in there.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Very it doesn't smell like a second very well run.
Extremely it's and got quite a bubbly vibe to it.

Speaker 9 (13:38):
Yes, I think I think that there's another one where
I live in Yeah, I think some of them are
quite well run.

Speaker 2 (13:47):
Yes, unbelievable because in the old days you go to
a because you see they get all the retired people
and they they've got good work ethics.

Speaker 9 (13:56):
Yes, yes, I was going to work and one, but
I just retired shortly after that. You're right there. I
think I may be wrong, but I think it's the
Catholic Church that runs them. Is that greet Well?

Speaker 2 (14:12):
I always thought the Catholic Church ran Saint Vinnie's, but
I don't know who the dubs are. You probably right,
it's probably a rebrand.

Speaker 9 (14:19):
We'll think you good and I hope you enjoy some soup.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yeah, No, good on you. Just if anyone does, I
know you people will be volunteers out there. And the
church shops or what if you call them secondhand shops?
Do they have Do they have massive rooms out the
back where they wash and dry everything? Because everything seems
immediculately done. How do they do that? Anyway? If noone's

(14:47):
got the information about that, I'd be curious today. Because
the old day's secondhand clothing shop, they always smelled it.
But but these days that you know, it's as good
as new clothes. I don't know what they do with it.
Good evening, Jamie. It's so I sound boring, don't they, Jamie,
it's Marcus. Good evening.

Speaker 10 (15:06):
Yeah, good evening though, Yeah, just a seving a shower mate.
When you had your debate there about the rugby, So
this is a legit. He wants to change the game
into a simpler form to make it more palatable to
the public, it he jones.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, well, yeah, that's that's what he says.

Speaker 10 (15:25):
So I got to thinking about the dynamics, right, So
the only thing you can do to increase tries you
have to increase space. So you're either increasing the size
of the field to put a bigger gap between the
fifteen men, or you're taking men off. So let's say
we take two men off, and then we say, I
have no speed up the scrum, so they've got to
be really quick, and then we do away with lineouts

(15:45):
because you know that's time consuming. Then suddenly we've got league,
you know, cerning men, no lineouts, quick scrums. And then
if we want to shrink it down again, say we
take another four guys off, and you've got nines, which
is the smaller equivalent to league already. And then if
we just take another couple off, you've got the seven.
So the only thing you can really do is, let's

(16:08):
let's look increasing the size of the field, maybe converted
into maybe an AFL rugby cross and encourage more kicking
crossfield kicking and stuff. But you can't do that because
no one's going to be able to increase the size
of their field. But we have every other version of
the game. I mean, what are you going to do?
Have five? You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
And he's someone that's been around the game for a while,
you think, but yeah, I look, I don't know.

Speaker 10 (16:37):
He's smarter than me, mate, But I am just thinking
that every version we can, and then once we get
to fives, don't we just half the field because there's
only so few plays. And then at that stage, wouldn't
you just play tens at a full field, which equivalently
the nines. I mean, there are no other options unless
you're going to increase the size of the field and
dramatically change the game that way to create the space

(16:58):
which gives us more tries whicheby one wants. But I
just don't know, Die.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
I just wonder. I just wonder why rugby was initially
fifteen people.

Speaker 7 (17:09):
I don't know.

Speaker 10 (17:12):
Maybe that maybe they worked out the sides of the
field and thought, well, this is the gaps in between.
I don't know. I don't know. But the only way
I know you can increase public loving a game is
to simplify it, to stupefy it. Because in the old days,
everyone played rugby mates, so they'd all sit around and
watch it. They could all understand it. But now you know,
you can't really have mauls and stuff because no one
really gets what's going on there, so you've got to

(17:32):
cut that out, and then you've just got a league.
But I think an AFL cross, you know you are
encouraging more than just your first five full back, half
back to kick the ball and have like you know
what you're doing, those huge cross kicks and stuff. Have
a bigger way, bigger field. Maybe that would be a
version of the game that everyone can enjoy. You'd have

(17:53):
lots of more tries because we've created the space, but
you'd be in you know, it'd be more kicks and
I don't know, it would be a bit more of
an exciting game because if you watch.

Speaker 5 (18:02):
The Aussie rule, it's quite quite a good sport.

Speaker 10 (18:04):
It's because there's no real cackling and stuff, but it's
been quite a bit more exciting.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
It's about every time I watch Ozzie rules, I'm always
surprised how much loose ball there is. To me, it
doesn't flow that well. I'm surprised how often the ball
kind of goes to ground and it always looks like.

Speaker 10 (18:24):
Yeah, I'm not sure. There might be a rule where
if you like you're on the ground and you grab it,
that's the dead balls. They sort of just try and
flick it around to each other to keep the play
going and flow your fluid. But yeah, I don't know.
If you put more rugby in like more style things.
So in the same situation they could grab the ball,
go to ground, everyone sort of hugs in and then
you you know. But I think that would make the

(18:44):
game a lot better than trying to achieve what we've
already got with nine and sevens in league.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Nice to hear from me, Jamie. Thank you. The future
of rugby, he says. He he says a lot. We've
got such a crowded probe, and I think if we're
able to come up with the quality of a T
twenty and rugby that was designed to bring a lot
of money and more new spectators of the game, than
freeing up three or four weeks in the year schedule
would be well worth it. He says a move towards
shorter games with reduced players feels inevitable. He reckons that

(19:15):
twelves would be an instant rugby that was easily digestible
and quick, but still maintain the shape and ethics of
the purest fifteen man version. He says rugby is unsustainable
in Japan too. It's just because the corporates pay for it.
But also I'm not very mindful if you start messing
with things, you know, if anything goes no one goes.

(19:38):
If you start messing and changing the rules all the time,
people just get lost. That's what happened with the NPC.
They changed the competition all the time. But you know,
I'm glad it worked for the Rugby Union because they've
got real challenges and of course you've got silver Silver Lake.
They want to click the ticket too, don't. They want
the return on their investments, and I can't see the

(19:58):
amount of money they're returning getting bigger than I mean,
a lot of empty seats at Eden Park and I
think it's only about fifteen thousand there for a semi
oh yeah, as I say, Look, I mean if someone
like Eddy Jones is saying they need to monetize rugby,
they need to just change the form because people stopped
watching it. I don't think people stop watching it because
it's too long or not enough tries. I think all
that stuff's fine. I think the problem rugby has is

(20:21):
there's not enough games where all the best players are.
It's a real nail biter and this appears to be
one way traffic to The Blues have scored first off
and now their way ahead get in touch. By name
is Marcus Hddle twelve. There's something different you want to
mention too. Be nice to hear from you. But if
anything goes on the Friday, free for all. So yeah,

(20:45):
looking forward to your input tonight. Oh eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty and nine to nine two to text.
If you do want to come through, be good to
hear it. By the way, fifty there's some quite interesting
articles out and about because this year is the fiftieth
year anniversary of all sorts of things like Nixon going

(21:10):
and streaking, an Ari versus former and all that sort
of stuff. Yeah, it's come. I thought about that. You
have fifty years. It's all sorts of things, fifty years
since the Exorcist. We talked about that earlier on this year.
Kind of a frightening part of the aging process when
you realize it's fifty years since things that you remember.

(21:32):
I nevern know what more to say about that, but
Lion's free if you want to get amongst it tonight.
My name is Marcus hddled twelve. Marcus, can you please
se me the debtors and how to order the Seafood
Recipe Book? Now, I don't know if it's sef I
don't know if it's seafood. I think it's all sorts
of things. I'll thaw that to Vanessa. She can be
in charge of this. She's more the commedee focused person.

(21:55):
I'll get a bit of a preview. I'll get a
copy of the book to tell you what the recipes
are like. They'll be tried and tested, they'll be Oysterman's
kind of There'll be recipes for chowder and stuff like that.
I would think, probably recipes for mutton birds. But twenty
dollars price to sell. I think each pupil's probably got
to sell twent or each school, each member of the
school's probably gott to sell twenty. I think what you

(22:18):
do these days is y just buy them all and
then give them away. Is it the way it works
with fundraisers? I don't know anyway. Twenty seven away from
nine enjoyed the start to the show quite lively. That's good.
And if there's something else that you want to talk
about and mention, get amongst at oh eight hundred eighty
ten eighty and nine to nine two de text looking

(22:40):
forward to your calls. That looks like the Brumbies have
just scored. Maybe not, maybe they just got denied before
the try line for got a huge overlap. It was
a try. They're begging International bath Day today.

Speaker 9 (22:54):
Two.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
We don't know what you're supposed to do for in
national Birthday, but there we go. And also forty years
since Muldoon called the snap election and then of course
that brought in the rogernomics for six years. That's happening
as well. Anyway, there we go. Oh eight hundred eighty

(23:15):
ten eighty nine two nine two de text. Well done
to the woman from Gore who collects pens. She's got
between thirty six and thirty eight thousand pins.

Speaker 11 (23:26):
Brilliant.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
I'm a great fan of collecting. However, I think if
you are a collector, from what I've experienced, you need
to have a plan for when you're no longer on
this planet. I don't think you can. Actually I don't
know what you do with thirty six thousand pens. I

(23:52):
think probably it's just been the last years of your
life kind of uncollecting them and giving them away. Because
don'tink anyone wants to inherit thirty six thousand pens, because
what might be your love will not probably be the
next generation's love. I don't think any museum wants them,
so I'll be curious to know where people are with
collecting and the legacy of that and what happens when

(24:13):
that goes. So there's another Cockbow Cuff soul. That's good.
That's two already brilliant. By the way, I mean only
only only order the book if you want to buy

(24:35):
the book, because we're a family that both works. We're
not in straightened circumstances. It's just more than you might
enjoy the cookbook. We don't need you to buy them
for the kids to go on the trow, particular kids
to go on the trip. We're quite heavy to fund it.
I don't want to do radio begging. There's a nice
old school kind of a fundraiser anyway. Oh, by the way,
don't want to freak the sheep. But I did actually

(24:55):
think that tonight I was going to change the theme
tune for the show. I thought probably. I spent most
of the I spent most of the days singing journey
Don't Stop Believing. I thought, gee, there'd be a good
way start the show instead of Jennifer Usher. I just
did quite not the lyrics fit in just a small
town Girl. So yeah, maybe I'll see if I can
cut up it out of that, and we might see

(25:16):
if we can actually bleed that into have an alternative
in case I think bad happens to Jennifer Rushi, in
case stand can't play it one night because boy, well
that's a song and I haven't it. And as you know,
my whole journey journey is all there because of band
Aid when him singing that well, not the American one
with him going so well, and we are the world.

(25:41):
So there we go. That's my anecdote of that one.
I'll see what people do. I don't want to oversell
the boox. But what people do do is they people
that are food historians, and I've met one a food historian,

(26:05):
and what is catnip to Then they love going around
the church fares and getting old community recipe books. So
if you get like.

Speaker 12 (26:14):
The Molesburn Woman's Farming Guilds Recipe book from nineteen twenty seven,
becomes quite interesting historical document because you can find out
what foods were people eating and the.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Changing diet and things like that. So yeah, it's pretty interesting.
So there we go. There's another book to Vanessa that's
five sold that we sold out tonight it's brilliant. I
should be very pleased about that. And she gets start

(26:49):
making the cheese rolls. Anyway, I'll see if I can
get she's home with sick kids. I'll see if I
can send them some copies of the recipes. If I
can do that, sold five books already. Can you send

(27:10):
me some screenshots of the more interesting, more interesting recipes
and put some wood on the fire recipes recipes? Who
bet of anything you buy on Tibo? Lorraine? It's Marcus.

(27:32):
Welcome Marcus.

Speaker 11 (27:35):
How do we get the recipe book?

Speaker 2 (27:42):
Are you an email?

Speaker 11 (27:43):
Money?

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Well?

Speaker 3 (27:45):
How do you know?

Speaker 2 (27:46):
It might be rap? I don't know if it's any
good or not. I mean, I feel terrible promoting something
I don't read, know much about.

Speaker 8 (27:53):
Then come up from the South Island.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Special see exactly where about to you? Lorraine?

Speaker 7 (28:00):
Too?

Speaker 11 (28:00):
Hockey in the very plenty?

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Okay? Have you got the internet?

Speaker 7 (28:04):
No?

Speaker 11 (28:05):
But I can get I can my daughter, of course.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
No, I'll shout you a copy of Lorraine. You just
give Dan your address and I'll send you a copy.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Okay, are you absolute star?

Speaker 2 (28:18):
That's me? Well, you wouldn't something you lose some I
feel bad about our Oh I'm a o friend, but
we'll give you a recipe book. We can't win every
battle ever, being sworn it by an eighty five year
album before anyway, Yeah, she didn't know it was going
to be such a big seller, but yeah, I'll spring

(28:39):
for Lorraines Lorraine Lorraine, Lorraine, Lorraine, Lorraine Lorraine talking about
Rugby how to make Rugbill only on Eddie Jones's comments
that the game needs some version of the rugby version
of twenty twenty for people to become a global game
and for people go nuts on and to fill up stadia.
But you see, you get that wrong and then you're

(28:59):
going to get yourself in a world of hurt. Also,
people that collect things, I'm interested in this. There's this
girl woman who's got thirty six thousand pens. But what
I'm interested in with people that collect things is what
happens for the next generation. What do you do with
your collections? Because I'm sure for most people to give

(29:24):
them up is a terrible thing to do. But if
you spend your whole car, if you spend your your
whole life collecting pens, then you know, want your children,
what do you do with them? Because they're going to
want to honor your collection, but they mightn't be into pens.

(29:45):
Just thinking aloud. Oh eight hundred eighty each eighty nine
to nine to detect eight from nine. My name is Marcus, welcome,
looking forward to what you want to say? Get in touch?
Oh eight hundred eighty twenty two zip in the rugby league.
So that's interesting. That's a really interesting result because actually
the camera raiders are about number six the hit parade

(30:07):
they've done all right, So yeah, so that's an interesting result.
There it's halftime there also tonight at Canberra. I will
keep you updated with that one. And so there there
we go. Oh, by the way, Bridgton, how are we
going with Bridgeton? Anyone watched that yet? It's not something

(30:29):
that I would watch, promise, but it's caused a fee
bit of controversy because it seems to be I think
it was always sort of quite a runchy kind of
a show, but I think it's come back and it's
particularly raunchy.

Speaker 13 (30:52):
Now.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
Is that good or bad? I don't know, but it's
I don't do they call it botus riper. I'm not
quite sure what they call it these days. So you
might want to talk about that as well anyway seven
away from nine, but anything goes as the Friday free
before looking forward to what you want to talk about? Oh,
eight hundred eighty eight nine two nine two texts North
Queens and Cowboys against canber Of course that's the team

(31:14):
that is playing. So we'll keep you updable the scores
in the next segment of the show. But yeah, if
you do want to talk on air, eight hundred eighty
ten eighty and nine nine two to text here till
midnight tonight, So looking forward to what you want to
say here till midnight. Jim steadn along from twelve. Keep
those texts coming through. I've forgotten about the texts. I've

(31:37):
been too busy with the emails. You said, free postage
on the recipe book. Do you realize it'll probably be
over five bucks per book to post I have a
problem with that. But it's best to email me at
the stage rather than text me. I can't really get

(31:59):
the text through. Marcus thirty thousand pens why off topic?
But in the news break Google Volkswagon add prank. Very good. Okay,
look at that. What sport are you most forward looking
to in the Olympics. It's a really good question. It's

(32:19):
a really good question. I'll watch everything at the Olympics.
I love the Olympics, not the swimming, not the boxing,
not the weightlifting. I kind of think the gymnastics is
a bit cruel sometimes, orthough I like some on Biles.
Is she going back there? For me, the sport I

(32:41):
like the most is probably middle distance running. I am
the pole vault. Well, I think it's track and field
for me. I have to look at the full lists
of sports I do. I will enjoy. I'll enjoy the cycling.
I'll enjoy the mountain biking, I'll enjoy the marathon. Don't

(33:04):
enjoy the heptathlen Oh, sim On Biles will be there.
It's exciting you imagine being good at Yeah. No, I
don't know what my favorite sport would be. I guess
it would be track and field. I think there's probably
football too. Was he were the under the under twenty
three teams? Anyway, I'll look into that for you anyway. Now, well,

(33:30):
what else the people say? VI text our email Marca
Marcus at newstalk zb dot co dot z. Don't stop believing.
A fantastic track closed out the final scene of the
final episode of the Sopranos. I never watched I love
the Sopranos. I never watched the last episode. All can

(33:55):
Counsel remove my neighbors recycling but in giving them a
clear plastic bag for future recycling. This after they received
a third and final warning for not rinsing out all
recyclables and not removing lids. Wow, that's old school. Marcus
watched Bridgeton last night. Yep, a little raunchy, but tasteful.

(34:21):
The issue with some people would have been the threesome.
There we go. Didn't know they had those in those days,
but there we are. It's a situation plenty if people
are texting me about their collections, which I'm enjoying, Marcus.
I collect head caps nine hundred to date. I would

(34:43):
pass it to charity when that time comes. Brian Wellington,
will you want some of it? Also has got a
big collection of what is a head cap? By the way,
is it a cap for the head? I thought it
was like a hubcap head cap. Yeah, okay, I guess
you gotta say head caps. Ath If you said caps,
people would not know what that was. Marcus. Collections can

(35:05):
be a lot of fun with you purch the world
or trade me or the second hand shops. It's all good,
but it's a hobby like knitting or running or chess.
Don't fool yourself that your kids are going to want
your collection, or that it's going to be worth the money.
It's just a hobby. It will probably end up in
a recycling center. But it's given you pleasure. That's okay.
So what do people do with it? If you're collecting
pens or business cards or teaspoons and you're about to

(35:29):
go into a home or something, what do you do
with them? How can you preserve that collection and give
it to someone that What do you do with that?
What contingencies do people have? Really curious about that because
I often wondered about that. What do you call the
next generation? That inherits it what a farmers have? What's
it called the what's that whole thing with the next generation?

(35:51):
Your whole play? What's the word? I'm looking for the word?
What you're supposed to say? Anyway, Mike, it's Marcus. Welcome, Yeah, Hi, greetings.

Speaker 5 (36:01):
You mentioned Highland Park supermarket in Auckland. Yeah, yeah, there
was a big wedhouse style. I think it might have
been a big fresh supermarket in Highland Park and East Auckland,
and it was brought out by Countdown, which has become

(36:22):
Woolworth and right next door, right, I'm telling you, right next.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Door was another Woolworth. And so for years there.

Speaker 5 (36:32):
Were two supermars, there were two supermarkets two well back
then your two Countdown supermarkets next door to each other.
So yeah, it's just an example of how the competitive
nature of supermarkets is, you know. And so there were
two two brands the same. The smaller one had more

(36:55):
of a more character, had a better atmosphere. So I
used to go to that, but it's since been I
don't know how the how it God bought out or
you know how the dealings went. But Pack and Save
have now brought out the smaller one on a massive
site and legacy construction of building a Pack and Save

(37:18):
now right next to the Countdown.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
So yeah, and then and then it's going to be
the biggest Peck and Save. It's one hundred million, one
the biggest in the country.

Speaker 3 (37:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah, I would never call a hard and Park a suburb.
It's just where how it meets Pakatana, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (37:34):
That's exactly right.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah, I wouldn't. I don't think that's it's a dumb
name for I don't even think it is a suburb.
It's probably something in the real estate agent's come up with.

Speaker 14 (37:43):
Yeah, no, that's right.

Speaker 5 (37:45):
But no, I mean I always thought it was crazy.
You have two countdown supermarkets next door to each other.
You know, it's a smack of competitive practices. But no,
that a site. No talking about the collections at home

(38:05):
we've got We've got folders of stamps. We haven't the
stamp collect them.

Speaker 7 (38:12):
We got to.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
I really enjoyed stamp. I mean, my brothers were. I
loved stamps. I mean that was really exciting.

Speaker 7 (38:19):
Oh it is.

Speaker 5 (38:21):
It's nostalgia, it's I mean, it's history. And I've got
stuff that was passed down from my great grandfather from
the nineteen twenties. But for some reason, I don't know why,
I've never really looked into it. I've just ignored it.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
But I mean, yeah, I mean, you get on trade
me these whole Stamp albums for South for like one hundred.
But you know there's someone's life's collection. What I wish
i'd I used to collect folding rules. But what I
wish I collected was milk tokens. Because you when you
want a collection, you want something that's when you're moving town.
It's not gonna it's not going to take up much

(38:56):
space because like pens and teaspoons, you've got to have
all sorts of display cases and they're just dust traps.
So you really want something that's kind of kind of
small and easy to collect. Reckon. But stamps are great.

Speaker 5 (39:09):
Yeah, I mean it's such a big part of our history.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
So you know, how old are you?

Speaker 5 (39:19):
Nearly fifty?

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Do you remember when phone cards came out and there
was a real frenzy for collecting those.

Speaker 5 (39:26):
I'd have to check in my draw but I still had.

Speaker 11 (39:31):
I still have.

Speaker 5 (39:33):
I still have an original two dollars phone card from
the telecom phone boxes. When they went to the cards.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
Much much charge left on it. What was it that
the animals on them? Were they?

Speaker 5 (39:47):
Yeah, I'd have to check. But definitely a collectible item
for sure.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
But not I mean, that's collapsed, isn't it, because it's
it's it's technology that's no longer of use to anyone.

Speaker 5 (39:59):
Yeah, well yeah, it's derelict.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Yeah, but it was quite it was quite good. It
was quite good technology for ten years. You have a
phone call, I mean it worked really it worked really well.
You'd always have a phone cut in your wallet in
case you were lost or something. Before mobile phones, it
was fantastic thought it was. It was state of the art,
just gone, ah yeah, okay, and you're talking to you, Mike,

(40:24):
thank you. Quit well on my head, never know what
the what the There is a special phone cards section
on Trade me Antics and Collectibles, but it's pretty poultry.
Eight telecom phone cards five dollars and that's high denominations,

(40:47):
so you buy now five dollars. So yeah, they're valueless.
There's no I don't know any phones you would use
them for, even for a retro thrill. Who doesn't love
a retro thrill? Loller ats Marcus good evening.

Speaker 15 (41:01):
Yes, we'll turning up their home pack in this is supermarket.
The two countdowns were one was food Town and the
smaller one was food Town. Then High and Park got
built out by a MP and a lot of the

(41:21):
places all closed down.

Speaker 16 (41:24):
And so.

Speaker 15 (41:26):
Now I didn't know they were going to be putting a.

Speaker 5 (41:29):
Pack and save in there.

Speaker 15 (41:30):
But was having all these supermarkets we had, and how
we had a count a food Town which is now Countdown,
and then we had another sugment. These two countdowns and
how it fairly close together. And we've got too many supermarkets,

(41:51):
you know. And then this Botany we've got New World countdown,
Pack and Save and yeah, all these places, you know,
I mean, all the stop they've got in all these supermarkets, you.

Speaker 11 (42:10):
Know what I mean, they're all close by with all
when a range.

Speaker 7 (42:13):
Of five kilometers.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Weird, but they must make a fortune because we go
to them and we buy stuff, and they've always seem busy.

Speaker 15 (42:23):
Yes they are, but you know, I mean, you're only
it's I just once upon a time we had all
these petrol stations. Some of them have closed down and
become other around Botany, to Otara and Pacaranga there was
about seven or eight petrol stations. Two bps have closed

(42:48):
down that you know what I mean, We've we've got
too many Pack and Savors going into Highland Park. This
is going to be absolutely crazy because when you go
to Botany, which is just down the road, there's another
pack and say.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Goodness, nice to hear from your Lola. Because I thought
we're all going to be shopping from home, doing online shopping.
They've got those massive car parks. No one will use
good evening, Bread, It's Marcus. Welcome today market, how you mate?

Speaker 10 (43:20):
Good?

Speaker 7 (43:20):
Thank you?

Speaker 9 (43:22):
Good good?

Speaker 14 (43:22):
Hey, look I'm calling you out. Do want your voice?
I went across the Australia and Brisbane and honestly, for
the first time, I just think I might have to
leave New Daling and I want to have a chat
about it. Because you're a knowledgeable man and everyone's told
me the grass think greener. But when you go over
and experience it pretty hard to doubt.

Speaker 10 (43:42):
You know.

Speaker 14 (43:43):
What's your thoughts on it?

Speaker 2 (43:46):
What's your circumstance? Bread? Have you have you got a care?
Have you got a job you can do there?

Speaker 14 (43:54):
I'm going to sell some pretty very goals. But yeah,
I think it's just more of a lifestyle change, you know.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
So you're going for Are you an Auckland at the moment?

Speaker 9 (44:06):
Fortunately? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Yeah, Well, no one's liking Auckland because the housing market
is unaffordable, and the housing market's unaffordable because the transport
system is so bad and no one's got the bravery
to do anything about it. Yeah, I think it's Auckland's
going to be a hard facts.

Speaker 14 (44:22):
I reckon what do you what do you think about
the cost of living? Like I just noticed people just
there just seem to have a better ratio of lifestyle
and enjoyment, you know, which is really important.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Well, it seems as though they're building materials. Their bricks
and stuffs are cheaper, and they can build houses cheaper,
and that must be because the land's cheaper and the
lands cheaper. And then the Brisbane Premiere came out and
he said it's going to make public transport fifty cents
to go anywhere. Meanthile back here, we've got people actually
doubling up the price of transport that was you know,
so they're progressive and you've got to.

Speaker 14 (44:56):
Narl on the You kind of hit the nil on
the head with building products too, because they have to
be brands proved, so we actually knock out a lot
of foreign building products, like we don't have a lot
of U FAN systems here, which is a real shame
because they're actually far more advanced than us in our marketplace,
which is, you know, New Zealand should be striving to
build cleaner housing that actually more goes down the passive

(45:17):
route because we have huge problems on services, as you
probably know, and if we did that we could actually
alleviate some of those problems through design and build.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
You know, it's on the arm.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Do you own a house?

Speaker 14 (45:31):
I don't mate it.

Speaker 3 (45:32):
I might.

Speaker 14 (45:33):
I'm in the housing industry though, so I do contribute
to some problems, you could say.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
I mean, yeah, I don't know Brisbane at all. I've
only ever just been through the airport going to Hamilton
Island for a work function, but I've never you know,
my experience is more with New South Wales and a
little bit of stuff with Audelaide in Melbourne and with Perth.
But we were just recently right around New South Wales

(45:58):
and catching up with friends of ours that moved over there,
and boy, they love it. As far as my point
of view, I love it because of the public transport,
because I'm a that's I quite enjoy that stuff, you know.
I like when you're on holiday when you just get
around on the trains or the light rail, and it
seems to it seems to function really well, which makes
living there more affordable.

Speaker 14 (46:16):
I reckon, I just never even thought I'd leave the
land of what I've grown up on, where my ancestors are,
and you know, you sort of wave a goodbye and
I feel like I'm one of the fifty thousand all
of a sudden doing that.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
You know, but it's only two hours on a plane.
I mean, it's incredibly reversible, isn't it.

Speaker 13 (46:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (46:37):
I mean, but New Zealand. A lot of us are
leaving he you know, like you when we're on the
plane even you know, you see a lot of keys.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Oh absolutely, and not a lot of coming back. And
a lot of smart people are going too because they
see that, you know, New Zealand's getting more into just
sort of becoming a bolt milk bolt commodity market, you know,
and doesn't seem to be progressive when it comes to
things like concerns with climate change or anything like that,
so or infrastructure. So I think anyone that wants to

(47:06):
sort of help to help to build a progressive, better society,
I mean your ends, not into the ends, not into
that at the moment.

Speaker 14 (47:16):
And it's I think, if you want to better yourself.
I think they're quite hard on those that are trying
to be fair anyway.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
So I think that people aren't going because of the
cost of I think the people aren't going because there's
a cost of living crisis. I think people are going
because there's a crisis of foresight and belief. It seems
as though no one inspired living news in them because
it's because everything is also you know that with the
government is everything is so sort of it's like the

(47:45):
government of the of the boomers, of the people that
are just oh, you have a rental home, do that
and use as much fossil fuels as you can, And yeah,
I must, I must.

Speaker 14 (47:56):
If you obviously you're successful, there's no doubt about it.
If you had your time gain you're young, starting out,
would it be something you would consider? If you had
no ties, maybe just your missus, would.

Speaker 17 (48:06):
You do it?

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Do I regret not having moved? Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 7 (48:12):
No?

Speaker 14 (48:12):
No, if you had your time again, would you move
given today's current position?

Speaker 2 (48:16):
If you you know, well, I mean the reality is
I probably could work anywhere. I probably could do that.
What would make me go and do it? I don't know.
I mean, I guess I've probably always enjoyed New Zealand's
geography and the history of it. I've been quite fascinated
by the place. But yeah, I sometimes I wonder what
keeps me here?

Speaker 7 (48:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (48:36):
Yeah, I'd have to say, yeah, but why would you
go Brisbane? Why would you not go to one of
the other states.

Speaker 14 (48:44):
To be honest, I just know a couple of people
over there, which would make them move a lot easier,
and to me, climate wise, I think it works. It's
still close enough to home to fly back, you know.
To be honest, I sort of liked it. How it's
a bit it is a bit bigger city, but they
seem a bit least business, you know, which I sort
of liked, but more relaxed.

Speaker 13 (49:05):
You know.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Let's see if we can see if someone can come
through and tell to us about the downsides of it,
because I'd be happy to talk about that. Nice to
hear from your brain. I appreciate the topic suggestion too.
The pros and cons are moving to IZZY. It's the
topic de jure at the moment, just like it was
forty years ago with Muldoon. Everyone was going to IZSI
then Okay, So I've almost got too many topics out
there at the moment. What we're talking about and I

(49:26):
couldn't think of the word. It's a succession plan like
farmers talk about succession planning. But you've also got to
talk about succession planning for your collections. So if I
had twenty five thirty six thousand pins. I'd be wanting
to probably find the world's best pen collector and see
if you can combine with them. Could I probably want
it to become part of the world's biggest collection. Teaspoons

(49:50):
are a hassle because quite often when I've gone around
the second hand shop, I've just found ziploc bags full
of tea spoons. I'm thinking, boy, oh boy, that's a
sad legacy. Someone spent their whole life collecting all those pens.
That is almost the journey of their life, all those
places they've been to. It's just in a jumble sale. Steepers, Zack,

(50:17):
it's Marcus. Good evening and welcome.

Speaker 6 (50:21):
Hey, how's the game, Marcus? Yeahah again, Now it's just
I was was heading to the super market and I
heard a conversation about over all about to do with
moving to Australia, because yeah, it's quite an interesting topic
because there are of course a lot of people that are.
But then talking to other people, there are a lot

(50:42):
of people coming over here as well. But I guess
with the pros with Australia, not just because of I
guess you get paid more depending on what you do.
It's just interesting what you mentioned before about what are
the I guess cons with the well when I went
to visit Sydney. Yeah, it's a lot more dense and

(51:05):
of course, like where I stayed on the coastal, the
Northern coast, you know, to do with it's quite full on,
like especially with speed cameras and it's just and driving around.
You do have to travel a lot more so I
staying in Wellington. It's not it's you know, it's kind

(51:26):
of everything's at your forefront. It's not not as as intense,
but there's definitely a lot of pros from moving over
there by means of what they offer, by means of
what you do as a job. I was offered like
double the salary for the same kind of work and

(51:52):
you know, I guess, and because I love surfing, just
the coastline was pretty pretty awesome as well.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
But yeah, what what Why did you not? Why did
you not go?

Speaker 7 (52:08):
Ah?

Speaker 6 (52:08):
I just yeah, I've just been contemplating. I mean, I
actually I am going to go over to South America
next week just to visit some friends in that. But
it's yeah, definitely been on my mind because when I
was over there in January to visit some friends and
that I thought, Oh, I'm just going to walk around

(52:28):
the garage because I'm a mechanic. I just like, you know,
see what there is and see, you know, just just
spent one day. We went around and the guy offered
me on the spot sixty dollars an hour, which I
was like the serious like, yeah, like what is this
and he's like yeah, like you know I was.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
I was like, holy heck, I know, did he want
to look at your your qualification? Let's pre stand if
you say you're a mechanic, it's taken you are a mechanic, right,
everyone knows what to do, do they?

Speaker 6 (53:03):
Sorry?

Speaker 9 (53:03):
What was that?

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Did he want to have a look at your qualification?
Who just assumes you know what you're doing?

Speaker 17 (53:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (53:09):
I think though, like when I walked in and just
started chatting to him, you know, and just it was
European specialists and all this gebber, he kind of knew
what I was talking about. And so when I walked
away and then I got a phone call, he just
came up to because like, oh, yeah, by the way,
this is what I'm offering all this, And I was
kind of like, I mean, of course you'd probably want

(53:32):
a proper interview and you know, have a look at
the CV and so on.

Speaker 9 (53:36):
But it was just kind of.

Speaker 6 (53:39):
Yeah, I was kind of like in shock, like woll
But I know that when I was staying there talking
because I'm I love this topic and like curious on
how everything works.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
And a Sydney based for surfing.

Speaker 6 (53:54):
I don't, I don't think it is. I was checking
out and talking to people. I think the south of
Sydney apparently it's a lot the girl better.

Speaker 17 (54:05):
But like.

Speaker 6 (54:08):
When I was up in Queensland, I mean, Colin Gattle
was awesome, Byron Bay is amazing, but compared to Indonesia, Hawaii,
it's like, you know, I don't, I don't know if
there is. I didn't get to spend enough time in
TICKI tour around.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
But yeah, it's well, I guess the problem with Sydney
You've got to find a place you can afford that
you can actually handy to the beach, because you know,
otherwise you end up miles western son how on the
train to go surfing. That's I'm gonna move on, Zach.
But nice to talk to you, I think, probably to
the last guy, I guess my probably take on Australia
is that the capital gains tax is a good thing.

(54:45):
For PULSI super is a good thing. It means the
country is much wealthier, a lot more money invested for beginfrastructure.
But also do think you'd be concerned about places with
the temperatures heating up? I mean twenty years Australia might
be unlivable fifty one degrees to day in Mexico. Yeah,

(55:07):
so you know Western Sydney should be hot as heck, Marcus,
I have thousands of dollars worth of collector's packs of
phone cards, eg. Like John A Lomu phone card pac
times three sucked in collector get in touch with talking

(55:29):
about well three things. If you are a collector, what's
your succession plan? Because I think the thing about collecting
the joy is the chase. And then you know, what
do you do with it? Well, I mean that's not
really here in or there is it? I suppose you

(55:49):
display it beer cans and stuff like, oh you got
a lot of beercands, Steve, Yeah, that's right, But then
what do you do with it? I always like those
books about people, like that book, the Orchid Book. Who
was that Susan Orley on that guy that was mad
about collecting orchards got them all and then just wonder
they gave up and went to something else entirely. There's
the best thing about obsessions. Give it ten years and

(56:11):
move to something different. You don't want it to define
you if there's something else you want to also, succession
plans for collecting. I'm looking at that article that woman
from Gore who's got thirty six thousand pens and never
much uses pens anymore?

Speaker 7 (56:27):
Do we?

Speaker 2 (56:27):
Now we're all texting. I don't think any museum would
want them.

Speaker 11 (56:34):
No.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
I mean that's the other thing about museums. I don't
want collections, do they. There's not much they can do
with it. They're short of space. So yeah, collections and
succession plans and what you're going to do with your
collections when you're no longer around. Is there someone you're
going to give them?

Speaker 7 (56:50):
Two?

Speaker 2 (56:51):
Or where would you give thirty six thousand pens? I
don't know who would want them. I don't even know
if they work. Pens probably don't work after a while,
do they. They're all it looks like they're all big ones.
Not the way that you tip upside down and there's
a bus that goes up and down. I've always liked
those ones. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty and nine

(57:15):
two till will be good to click snow globes. That's
always fun, isn't it? Shake them up? Love a snow globe.
But look, the lines there are free. If you're coming
home from the rugby, let us know about that. Then
appear to be a huge amount of people there at

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the rugby, but you might have driven home from that.
The Blues have won, they've seen off the Brumbies were
the four try blitz in the beginning of the first half.
So yeah, this whole eight people going through to the
point end of the competition. Of the eight teams, probably
slightly underwhelming with the matches because they've all been gone

(57:56):
exactly to form. Then those teams are out. They don't
get a second go either. It's not like you get
the second chance. Interesting enough too, they've moved the other
semi final tomorrow to so it doesn't coincide with the
Warrior to the Warriors match, which probably is unheard of.

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They're making a bit of a song and dance about
them the Footy Show last night and they took that
as a victory that Super Rugby has moved a semi
final to fit in with an NRL game. Good on
them for doing it, but I kind of can't believe
they did.

Speaker 10 (58:30):
So.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
I thought the sort of a rule that you never
spoke about the other competition, cause that's going to stick
in a crawl. Mataik Manawa installation lights up via duct harbor.
If I was a retailer there, I'd be thinking, jeepest, creepers.
What about the cantilever bridge. The fact they can't fix

(58:53):
that is absolutely mind boggling. The fact that I don't
even know the story too much, but the fact they
allowed it to be in a position that people couldn't
cross on it where it was up in Auckland last week.
I did wander around that area a couple of times
and it did seem as though the area across the
bridge was a ghost zone. Went to Sandford's, grab some

(59:13):
fish and wandered around there a little bit, as you do.
There's a good bookshop there, there's a good nautical bookshop there.
I thought that was pretty good. Actually, now in the
UK there's a pole that's put Nige or Faraj as
a reform party ahead of the Conservatives. Which is pretty
much unheard of since he's only decided to run for

(59:35):
about two weeks ago, so that's just come through. I
haven't seen the actual numbers or knowing the size of
the survey. Snow globe collection would be funny. If you
want to show them off, you'd have to shake them all. Oh,
you'd have a machine you get your kids on, something

(59:56):
out of lego. You'd be like you watch collector to
keep them wound. I'm sure you could do something with
your snow globe thing. Be a good thing to collect.
What about here a good thing to collect? Egg timers?
It's the thing you want, something that there's plenty of
them out there that's not kind of sought after. Although

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the trouble with collecting now is that most of the
second hand shops have gone online, so it's just doing
trade me searches and buying stuff and in your speed,
your whole life worries you have to get bad feedback
because you're a slow payer. Collecting stamps and coins as

(01:00:40):
a kid, expanding my knowledge of different nations and also
helped me pass school see geography, which surprised my geo
teach a big time. By the way, what helped the
maps the most. We're maps and Atlas box back then
all the common countries always bink and non common with nations.
We yellow, yes, snow globe pretty awesome, But what about

(01:01:00):
the old classics the lava lamp? Why has no one
mentioned coins? I collect coins and plan to frame or
organize them in a way that can have a blur
beneath the cord, or an organized album, or sell the
other less valuable and rare ones. Marcus. I came back

(01:01:23):
from a three years ago and regretting it now and
miss it since I came back, life is sucks. My
relationship fell apart, my daughter's education is suffered back here,
which you did say, well in Queensland, what has become
of our beautiful country? Our country tis of thee. I
couldn't agree more, Marcuss. New Zealander is in such a right.
Our eighteen year old daughter and six year old son

(01:01:44):
are all planning on hitting to Australia sers they get
their qualifications. It's incredibly sad to think they can't see
a future here. Hopefully things will change the next two
to three years and they will change their minds. Well,
I can't see housing getting any affordable for young people.
So I can't see anything changing. They can talk it big,

(01:02:05):
they can promise, but the reality is their actions, and
that's not about cheaper housing and more affordable housing. So yeah,
no one's the pace I think of people leaving will increase.

(01:02:26):
And then you're looking at a situation like a place
like in the Cargo, which struggles to attract people anyway.
At the best of times. Goodness and the TEP might
really get turned on, Johnny, It's Marcus. Good evening and welcome.

Speaker 14 (01:02:52):
I'm just making some moonshine and I'll go you.

Speaker 18 (01:02:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:02:56):
Yeah, I've just brought a still off t mode and
it's arrived, and I've got this crazy recipe translated from
Mandarin into English, and I'm having lots of fun. I've
got my mashed potatoes and my tomato pure and all
my sugar and yeast and stuff. But I was just
wondering if anyone might know if there's a moonshine club

(01:03:20):
around the Bay plenty or telling it, because all I've
been able to find online is just forums with people
asking lots of questions.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
And such a Johnny, it's a still, is it?

Speaker 13 (01:03:32):
Yes?

Speaker 11 (01:03:32):
It is?

Speaker 13 (01:03:32):
It's a three pot still with a thumper and a
condenser what they call it reflex condenser.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
What it cost n tu.

Speaker 13 (01:03:41):
It was two hundred and fifty dollars and it does
ten meters, so three gallons. And I've got a recipe
that's hocking Ton gold that's come from my great great
grandfather that we've found.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
What's your raw material? You using the still?

Speaker 13 (01:03:59):
Oh? Look, the recipe of China says to use rice
or potatoes, But I've used five pounds of potatoes that
appeled and into a runny mesh. And I've used a
can of tomato paste and some lemon and twenty pounds of.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
Tomato paste, yes.

Speaker 13 (01:04:17):
Sir, yes, tomato paste for what a lemon? This is
to go into the mash to create the flavors.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
And today, are you making a general vodgar or whiskey?
A whiskey?

Speaker 13 (01:04:30):
Obviously, I'm making a sugar wash of moonshine. So I'm
making moonshine the old fashioned way, So.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Okay, So it's not any particular liquor. It's just it's
not whisky, it's not gen It's just called moonshine.

Speaker 13 (01:04:44):
Right, that's right, Yes it is.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
Yeah, Okay, I'll find out more. It's not my specialty
topic brewing, although I did judge your homebrew competition once
and Tiano people had come out sort of from the
wilderness to end. It was pretty extraordinary. It was a
good night. We're talking stills and brewing alcohol. Because there

(01:05:09):
is a still available on TIMU, a three gallon stainless
steel still. I don't know much about that, but if
anyone's done that or broader still, be really keen to
know how that works. Could you tell me what sort
of alcohol you'd be making if you'd be putting tomato

(01:05:36):
paste in it? Because I thought it still you just
had pure alcohol, just flavored it, whether it be gin
or yeah, well gin of those ones. Otherwise whiskey. You
gotta have barrels and stuff takes a bit longer. You've
got something to say about that. I wouldn't mind hearing
from your eight hundred and eighty eight eighty night, particularly
brewing alcohol. Yeah, alcohol still, I found it. There are

(01:05:59):
two hundred and twenty three dollars. It's exactly when you
see says Thumper set alcohol still, three gallon stone and
steel alcoholist, live with copper tube and build a dermometer
and water pup double thumper keg. So he's just done
potatoes and rice. So we brought one of those stills,

(01:06:27):
I mean only an you make five leaders our call
and you're good to go, aren't you be? Good school
science project? Helen. It's Marcus. Good evening.

Speaker 11 (01:06:36):
Oh, it's good evening, Marcus. Now I heard the other
day there's a mega doubt drought being forecast for the
seven States of Australia which people might like to look into.
Forecast to last up to twenty thirty years and will
particularly affect the Murray based Murray Darling Basin where the

(01:07:00):
water supplies for Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide come from. And there's
an awful lot of people live in Australia now, so
I just thought, you know, you were just saying, you know, well,
you know what you'll say. So I just thought, well,
I've just had that, so people might like to actually

(01:07:22):
have a look at that.

Speaker 9 (01:07:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Absolutely, I think there's all sorts of challenges where you
get look at Mexico and Texas and places like that,
they're all short of water. Phoenix. I mean, I think
the water shortage is going to happen a lot sooner
than people think I guess there's also desalination or something,
but that would desalination. You're probably going to have to
burn fuel to power the desalination. That's complicated to isn't it.

Speaker 11 (01:07:44):
Yeah. A lot of the country towns so for a
while I've been recycling their sawage water. So yeah, it charming,
isn't it. Yeah, because they've got no water. So you know,
anybody who's moving over there, just keep an eye on that.
And they don't burn all your bridges.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Well that's the one good thing about you. One good
thing about Isa. Despite despite the incredible rate increases council
have to pay for good water reticlation, we do have
a lot of water.

Speaker 4 (01:08:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:08:18):
Anyway, there we go.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
Nice to hear from your Helen Stills. Who's got a
still Marcus? We have three Stills. There are great home
grew homebrew groups on Facebook and also Jesse Still in
Jesse Still at New Zealand is excellent Ruby Ruby Marcus.

(01:08:48):
Australia is an opportunity to accumulate wealth and areas where
living expenses, vehicles and wages are paid head over and
exports some dollars back home. Marcus had to make move
back from Ossie to be close to family. Two fifty
k in the bank readed by a house, but was
a contract geologist. Bank wouldn't them alone to buy a house,
So off we went back and bought a place over there.

(01:09:09):
Hasn't looked back. Why wouldn't they give a geologist alone?
So Marcus, don't forget the Euro's kickoff this weekend. Will
you be supporting? Who are you supporting it to? Coming home?
I guess I look, I don't know a huge amount
about European football, but I've watched enough of the World

(01:09:32):
Cups and I love England. I don't know why I
suppose to as a child growing up watching the FA
Cup and knowing too that they run the World Cup
and nineteen what was it sixty eight and that they
always go well until they don't go well. Yeah, I
guess it's the team I identify with because it's probably
the team I know the most about, because just by

(01:09:53):
us mos As you do know all about it. So yeah,
I follow England like their coach. I haven't looked at
this real Madrid player they've got that such a star.
I have meant to do a bit of research about that,
haven't yet, But yeah, I will support I don't know
if I'll support them, but I'll watch England. I enjoy
the drama of it all. I take it so seriously.

(01:10:15):
I see the German government, I think, well, Jim and
I saw an articles. So they're encouraging the fans to
smoke marijuana rather than drink alcohol because I think it
might make the English fans more chilled out. Eighteen past ten, Hi, Brendan,
it's Marcus.

Speaker 4 (01:10:31):
Good evening, Marcus, good evening.

Speaker 9 (01:10:33):
How are you good?

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Brandan?

Speaker 7 (01:10:36):
Are you do you?

Speaker 14 (01:10:37):
Are you?

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
You're English? Are you excited about tomorrow?

Speaker 4 (01:10:41):
What's going on tomorrow? I haven't got a clue.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
It's just the European cap Okay, that's.

Speaker 4 (01:10:48):
Rugby, so no worry about it.

Speaker 7 (01:10:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:10:51):
Collecting.

Speaker 4 (01:10:52):
My brother a great collector, and he's got Crans ornaments
for Africa and also a sab that he kind of
half restored and then he said, I'm going to buy
another one for parts, and he's got another one there
and it's kind of a bit of a joke in
the family. We have a good laugh about it, and

(01:11:15):
I've told him, I said, you know, the moment you die,
I'm going to sweep up all those ornaments, put them
in one of those starts, put you in there with
it and bury you in it, because I said, I'm
not sawing it all out up at the option.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
No, it's a terrible it's a terrible it's a terrible
liability to leave someone a collection because they'll be heartbroken
to know how much it meant to your brother. But
just goes oh straight and.

Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
The skipp I've told him, I said, I said, literally,
the day you croak, we'll just have that car boot sale.
I said, it's all going out the door. And we
have a bit of a laugh about it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:49):
But yes, he's the people's collections are worthless.

Speaker 4 (01:11:55):
Yeah, yeah, it's just it's just memories, isn't it. It's
just it's like totographs.

Speaker 9 (01:12:00):
I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Well, I think the excitement is the joy of finding it.
If you're in some garage sale and you always that's
the hit, that's the addiction, and you never lose that
thrill of finding one. But you never completely say because
you're never going to click every single one of those.
But yeah, I think it's a weird psychology.

Speaker 4 (01:12:19):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I think I think it's it's a
sort of moment in time thing, you know, where you
go oh, you know, you have associations rather like people
do with music. You know, you hear a song and
you you know, it takes you straight back to a certain.

Speaker 9 (01:12:33):
Time in your life.

Speaker 4 (01:12:33):
And I think people do that, they collect mementos and
ornaments and souvenirs from different places, and that, yeah, sometimes
goes a bit too far. It's not a case of
you know, it's not a hoarder. It's not these guys
that you literally can't get in the house for. But
there isn't much shelf space. And if there was an earthquake,
it could be the end of end of my woes. Anyway,

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we'd get rid of a few of them in one go.

Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
Give me an example of what sort of ornaments he collects.

Speaker 4 (01:13:02):
Ah, On one side, it will be you know, lots
of different you know, quartzes and stone and different sort
of not not precious stones, but just you know, bits
of various different anthracites and courts and various bits. And

(01:13:22):
then it will be sort of China ornaments and yeah,
just all sorts of sort of nick naked stuff. I
hate this stuff. I hate the bloody dust gathering lemon stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
But there we go. Nice to hear from you Britain.
Thank you're twenty one past teening markets Marcus, welcome.

Speaker 20 (01:13:43):
Why do we support England when it comes to soccer.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
I've never understood it history.

Speaker 5 (01:13:49):
Our mastimate is look on my first.

Speaker 20 (01:13:54):
As a conscious sort of human being. With eighty two
when we qualified, yep, and they had they made it
into the second round and they had this. It was
the three teams in the second round of the AD two.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
Scott We played Scotland Russia and we played Brazil Brazil
and they hammered.

Speaker 7 (01:14:19):
Us, but they loved us.

Speaker 20 (01:14:21):
They loved us because we were so competitive. They thought
they'd beat us by like thirteen nil and they went
out and we we actually got major plaudits from the
Brazilian media for our competitive nature and that thing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
But back to England, although we did have some players
like Winton Rufer, I mean there were there were generational
players that were playing for us as well, so it
was you know, I was quite involved in that because.

Speaker 3 (01:14:48):
Yeah, how old are you Marcus?

Speaker 6 (01:14:50):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Were I forget? But I bought in nineteen sixty five.

Speaker 20 (01:14:55):
But look, so you're five years older than me.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
I used to work at as an intermediate school. Could
we'd work at Newmarket Park, selling programs and working on
the school board and that was the form, so they'll
always be and there'd be suburbs versus Mount Wellington. And
then of course there was a team called I think
it was Good Monday where it came along with John
Adshead was the coach. So club football was huge and

(01:15:21):
of course everyone had a Northern English accent. So that's
why we support Elers because you know that that for
all those years they were the basis of our team.
And then of course Newmarket Park fell down the gully,
so then Mount Smart became the venue for all those matches.
I think we played Saudi Arabia and Kuwait and China.

(01:15:42):
I think out there it was an exciting time.

Speaker 20 (01:15:45):
Ye Chinese Taipei. Yeah yeah, yeah they were actually China,
they were China. But look those those were amazing, amazing days.
But I've always I've always felt like, if England do
well in this tournament, and I'll even change the accents,

(01:16:06):
if England do well, freaking love it. It's something unusual
about I wouldn't support them in anything else, not a chance,
but if they win the.

Speaker 2 (01:16:19):
World Cup, I'll go to love it, I must. But
this is the year, Yeah, yeah, yeah, if they were
a year.

Speaker 20 (01:16:27):
World if you're wider thing, so eighty two they weren't
they they won in sixty six, they made it the
semifinals and seventy then they missed two World Cups in
a row, seventy four, seventy eight. They didn't qualify, didn't
qualify to make the tournament. They only just qualified in

(01:16:50):
eighty two. Eighty six are the semifinalists, the Gary Linka,
Garry Garry Linker and the boys Magnificent tournament ninety Italian
ninety But that year own ninety six that they had
with what's the thing that the crazy drunken n oh Gazer,

(01:17:19):
when Gaza had the Paul Gasco and had the tournament
to end all tournaments. Personally, you know that volley over
the lob of volley, phenomenal stuff. But we're waiting on them,
We're waiting on England.

Speaker 6 (01:17:36):
So come on, you, palm.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
I gonna watch because I think it's free to where
people need to know it's in. It's TV INSI plus yeah, yeah,
which is great too, so amazing.

Speaker 20 (01:17:46):
I couldn't believe that when I looked sort of like
this is free, I said the old man last night
I said, you got that widget on your phone? I
s the telly you didn't understandable bloody widget? You know,
you know, I think I'll bring your sister mate. You
get the sort of yes, Mark.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
You you're a good call. But you can't go off
on a tangent. What do you collect?

Speaker 6 (01:18:12):
I was spoken about this.

Speaker 3 (01:18:13):
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
David Bowie. David Bowie albums, David Bowie albums, albums.

Speaker 20 (01:18:21):
No, just albums, not not kitschy stuff, just just just
the beast.

Speaker 2 (01:18:27):
How many albums you got?

Speaker 20 (01:18:30):
Everything?

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
Such a notable answer. How many would that be?

Speaker 10 (01:18:35):
Mark?

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
This everything's on. I don't know would there be ten
or fifty or one hundred?

Speaker 20 (01:18:43):
Notice least than that because what I went for, Look,
it just happened by mistake, actually just a bit of
a thing. I realized that the New Zealand e M
I who printed his record, was such a small market,
and it was like the Christianity Sandra, New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
It was a pretty it was a pretty harroring movie
that to sees a fourteen year old and pretty boring.
Actually yeah, look I never gelved into that then.

Speaker 20 (01:19:19):
I remember you were seeing it and going, oh that's
not for me, Like germ and j Yeah, oh, gym
and junkies living now and change today.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
I like the train aspect of it. That was good.
But anyway, yeah, yeah, there.

Speaker 20 (01:19:34):
Was something kind of some redeeming factor or something. But no, look,
it was just a thing that I fell into and
I realized that there was quality and the New Zealand
releases that were and it just went oxactly kind of
an investment in some respects.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
Okay, olive there, Buck. I want to get some more
people before the headlines.

Speaker 7 (01:19:59):
But thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
Sorry to ask you a questions and cut you off. Yeah,
Rayot's Marcus.

Speaker 19 (01:20:03):
Good evening, Good evening, Marcus.

Speaker 7 (01:20:06):
When you again.

Speaker 19 (01:20:08):
Going back to the old days Marcracy, when I'm going
back with English football and all that sort of stuff
the old days here when when when Liverpool and all
those played in Liverpool and Everton and Merseyside and west
Ham and all they were good games of football, you
know for the f A cap and all that sort
of stuff. But there's these modern games now they're playing.

(01:20:31):
But the Manchester United playing away overseas and all it.
And then Liverpool there's a Liverpool player and the Liverpool
team now they're all ropers and all that, and it's
it's such an outrated game there. It's with the penalty
shootouts and all this sort of stuff, and that it's
not the same as the old days here with when

(01:20:52):
I am the younger days here, I've been notch awake there.
We used to play with all the football boys there.
They're all more of their own teams. And you know,
it was the games here and you have a morning
off work there to watch the FA Cup and all
that sort of stubble. It's it's not the same charisma
as what it used.

Speaker 13 (01:21:11):
To be in the old days.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
Although although you imagine you go back to nineteen seventies
when we watched the FA Cup was on black and
white small TVs. The picture was appalling. The thing that
you remember most was the sound of the crowd because
the mic it was more. It was more an audio
experience and a visual experience of often thought, because the
singing and the it was unbelievable.

Speaker 19 (01:21:33):
Yeah, but it's a say of these things are there overseas.
Now it's it's just money, many money. The other's playing
millions of dollars in the players and all that.

Speaker 9 (01:21:43):
Sort of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
Oh, it'll be too negative. It's a good thing and
people looking forward to it. Sports. God, Sport's a good thing.
Professional sports not a problem. And surely you'd like the
Era tournament because everyone that's playing for England is from England.
You write about foreign players in your Manchester United if
you can't prese some anyway, nice to hear from you. Ray,
you'll keep a sneaky eye on football this weekend. Is

(01:22:05):
that that's a bit of you, is it?

Speaker 9 (01:22:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Well you have something to say, you'll have something to
say about it. You'll support some team that's not England,
or you will support it. It will be one way
or the other.

Speaker 16 (01:22:13):
With you, it's always well, there's always the great you
know wannabes England isn't there. You know everyone thinks that
England will be good in England somehow always managed to
disappoint us. So yes, I'm thinking maybe it'll be something
like Belgium.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
Or Portrait order can go all the way. But we
shall see and you'll watch it. You'll support that, you'll
be you'll get in front of the TV for some
of them. Yeah, I'm sure we'll see some of them.
Thank you. Tony twenty nine away from eleven so it
starts tomorrow Germany Scotland seven o'clock tomorrow morning. That's the
big game. That's tomorrow am then Hungary, Switzerland on Sunday

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and Spain, Croatia Sunday, Italy, Albania Sunday, Poland, Netherlands Monday, Slovenia,
Denmark Monday, Romania, Ukraine. They'll be emotional. That's Tuesday, England,

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Denmark on the twenty first of June. Oh Serbia, England
on Monday. Well, of course, a twenty eight away from
eleven moname is Marcus, Welcome, good evening, brewing your own alcohol, Marcus.
I collect flag patches from countries that I've visited when
I saw them on the bottom of my North faced
bag that I use when I visited. The only travel
with carry on I'm able to quick get away from

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the airport. James Marcus, what Sky channel is the European
game on tomorrow? I don't think it is. I think
it's on TV and ZED Plus. It's on Duke twenty three. Duke.

(01:23:50):
What's normally on Duke like antique Pickers or something, isn't it?
But also it's on TV and ZED Plus, which I
think is a website listener said like a grandparent's I'd
watch that, you'd chrome cast that from your phone to
your TV. I kind of write, there, Dan, if you've

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got a smart TV, the Apple be on the TV.

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
So there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
By the way, don't be scared of asking us about technology.
If you're having trouble with your TV, that we're all
about that. It be some pair of the old days.
They never mentioned TV because people turn off the radio.
But you know where we know that you've got a
mirrord of things you might want to do, and some
of you might be listening to the rail and watching
the football at the same time. Rule adults apart from
those that aren't. Marcus, the homebrewed spirit made for a

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still generally a tee for five hundred model. First to
make a wash, which is twenty one liters of water
at three degrees filtered water, Oh yep. Then sugar in yeast.
What's the guys in tomato paste for I'll read that
when I've got more time. Twenty six to eleven. David's Marcus, Welcome.

Speaker 18 (01:25:08):
Good evening, Marcus, how are you this evening?

Speaker 15 (01:25:10):
Good?

Speaker 2 (01:25:10):
Thank you?

Speaker 9 (01:25:11):
Steve.

Speaker 4 (01:25:13):
A couple of things.

Speaker 18 (01:25:14):
First of all, the gentleman who was from the bay
of plenty, who was talking about it still in his
Tomato paste and bits and pieces. The answer to his
question is that there's a home brewers and winemakers club
pretty prominent out of Wakatani, and they do a lot.
It won't be hard to find them.

Speaker 6 (01:25:31):
They do a lot of competitions and pieces.

Speaker 18 (01:25:34):
My uncle is heavily into his winemaking, and Carrau in
that region won a few awards and things with them.
And that's where you go.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
But in regard to that, I hang on, hang on,
just stop there and your first words in regards to that,
So we're going to stop at your uncle. Is he
growing grapes there?

Speaker 18 (01:25:53):
Yeah, he's a big connoisseur. So he went and purchased
about seventeen different varieties of grapes and setting them all
up in his backyard and rows put netting over the
top of them. And he's got shard and a great
and white grapes and Fina noire grapes and you name it.
He's got all sorts of things.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
It's fantastic because you don't hear of hobbyist. You don't
hear of hobbyist. I know a lot of people into
making fruit wine and stuff like that. But yeah, so
he's in Coado and he's using grapes. That's good to know. Okay. Anyway,
in regards to stills, yep.

Speaker 18 (01:26:24):
Don't regard to still. I own a still, and it
was It was manufactured by my father, who was an engineer.
He took a fifty liter kid, ripped the center piece
out of it by the gas welding it out, gas
gas cutting it out, and he took the mac union
joint off the back of a stainless steel milk tanker,
welded it into the center. A two meter long column

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on the top of it filled with glass marbles with
like a little grill on the bottom so that fill
all the bonding fate could go up. But two hot
water cylinder elements, one on either side of the still
on the inside, so basically cut a hole on the side,
put those and then manufactured a reflex condenser by putting
a a coiled piece of stainless steel tubing within a

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code to speak, and then white water goes around the
outside like a water jacket and pulls it all down.
When I run that thing, I can get ethanol out
of that thing at about ninety eight percent pure. The
question is ethanol is flavorless, and if you're doing it properly,
you're getting alcohol out of this thing. So what's the
point of putting all of the flavoring and everything in

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the wash if the main idea is to get it
out as pure as possible, which has no flavor.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
Okay, So could you just buy pure ethanol and then
flavory yourself. What's the point of the still ethanol to
be cheap, wouldn't it?

Speaker 18 (01:27:47):
Yeah, but it's hard to obtain unless it's commercial because
they've put other things in it in order to stop
people from doing exactly that. That's why you go blind
if you drink mets because all mess it's basically the
methanol is poisonous. But you can easily get ethanol out
of methylated spirits. So that's why they did it to
stop people being able to obtain alcohol cheap leaves.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
So what do you actually what do you what are
you putting in your still?

Speaker 18 (01:28:13):
It's literally a sugar, a sugar and dextros. Dextros being
glucose basically, so sugar normal table sugar is start starting.
We're not going to get into the chemical formula here,
but it is basically it is a more non broken
down version of the broken down version is gluecose that

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and some yeasts that can handle the high alcohol content,
and you basically let that some men out until such
time as it stops and the yeast is dead because
of the fact that it gets through high on alcohol,
and then you distill it. So all you're trying to
do with all your fancy bits and pieces in your
wash and all your other things is obtain fermentation. And
you're just trying to get that fermentation so that you

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can get an alcoholic content.

Speaker 3 (01:28:58):
And you make it understood.

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
How sorry, yeah, are you making gins?

Speaker 10 (01:29:04):
Well?

Speaker 18 (01:29:04):
No, The thing is that normally, like the hobbyist and
meat turns around and buys flavorings, you can there's heaps
of them, heaps of different brands and things, and you can.

Speaker 5 (01:29:15):
You can still go to the likes of bin in stores.

Speaker 14 (01:29:17):
A lot of the thin in stores, the bulk food.

Speaker 18 (01:29:19):
Stores around the country, a lot of them have a
department in the back that actually has all your paraphernalia
and all your barrels and all your flavoring. Then you
can buy all your yeasts and things from them as well,
so you make your ethanol and then you flavor it.
So one of my favorites is to get a thickening
powder and you add theth andol to the thickening powder,

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your water it down to about twenty four percent. Then
you add a flavoring to it, and then that's a
base for a liqueur, and you can make a fifty
fifty sort of added to cream at the time, and
you've made Bailey goodness space.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
So thank you, nice to talk, thank you. Wow. Oh
I T hundred eighty to eighty nineteen nine to the
text one of his Marcus Welcome nineteen to eleven. You
can also buy flavor as vodka and buy any flavor
essence to make any spirit you want. Yeah, I don't
quite like the science of that. Just may I call
they just buying flavorings. I always thought i'd want something

(01:30:15):
slightly more. Oh and I don't drink too, by the way,
so it's funny how you get invested. I'm not gonna
make it that way. Actually that's what I don't drink.
I do enjoy the whole process of it. If I
am quite fested alcohol, happy to have stills and stuff
like that, wine making and all those things. But yeah,

(01:30:35):
what Sky channel is. The European game Tomorrow please Tomorrow morning,
Germany versus Scotland is on the Duke channel, channel number
twenty three. Not every game is on Duke, but all
fifty one games are free on TV and z Plus,

(01:30:56):
which is a website. So you're either chrome cast it
to your TV. You've got a smart TV, which you
probably all should have now and even I'd know how
to do that, and you can watch it there along
with task Master and all those other fun things that
people like to watch. So your TV and z Plus.

(01:31:18):
So yeah, so we're no longer in that terrible time
of all that stuff with Spark and that complicated situation.
It seems like sports be kind of come more available.
I don't know why Tvan did got the rights to it.
Does it not worth anything? Or is that a that
might be a hangover of Spark. Spark might have brought
the rights to it now obliged to broadcast it, like
happened with another tournament recently. Yeah, Victor, welcome, nice to

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hear from you. It's Marcus.

Speaker 7 (01:31:43):
Good evening, Oh hot storry Marcus. Hello, how are you tonight?
I'm okay. So we've got we've got a. I'm Victor
from Huntley. I always text them, But you know, to
who who where I grew up, my dad who's passed
away now, and we have those homes still up there,
and who was a builder pads when all his life

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and collected woodworking and engineering tools.

Speaker 3 (01:32:13):
And we have.

Speaker 7 (01:32:17):
A huge garage which is full of all the functional,
everyday tools that were used in our business. But we
converted the it's one hundred year old home and odahu
on the Teanecky River, and we put a reinforced floor

(01:32:37):
in the roof of the second story and we turned
that area door. Dad and I turned that area into
a private museum and there must be two or three
thousand individual tools on display up in the roof, and

(01:33:00):
downstairs is another huge room for his tool club friends
that used to come over, and that is also all
the best stuff and we just don't know what to
do with it. It's just so it's a beast of
burden really to us.

Speaker 2 (01:33:17):
Yeah, that's what I always think about it, Because did
you discuss it with him? Did he have a succession plan?

Speaker 3 (01:33:24):
Not at all.

Speaker 7 (01:33:24):
No, he was completely you'll just do as you're told.
He was a hard man and he died two years
ago of dementia in the lockdown and the last lockdown
he died in a secure dementia ward. But he was
an awesome dad and he looked after his family for

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the max. But yeah, it's one hell of a collection,
some of the stuff, and it is Christine like he
would do up a lot of it that to a
new condition and display it as it would have been
in a new condition. And then there's another grade of

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the collection, which is the used condition. And then there's
even another grade of the real dilapidated stuff, because that
still creates even though it's all dilapidated, and it's some
of the pieces would be the oldest things we've got

(01:34:29):
basing that early braces like drilling holes of wood, Yes,
and some of them would be about seventeen twenty something
like that, pretty pretty early. And the value of it,
of course is quite colossal. So I'm not going to stay.

Speaker 2 (01:34:46):
Where but no, I actual but I know that part
of the town because I didn't know I did that
walk right around the edge of Auckland, so it wasn't
there I'd actually been to before. They know all that
sort of area down by that that yea, what there's
a park down there isn't there seaside.

Speaker 7 (01:35:02):
Park road Park, Radio road Park, seaside two side parts.
Why it's a beast of burden literally.

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
Obviously if he was in the tool club, what's the
response of the tool club people, are they kind of.

Speaker 7 (01:35:21):
Perhaps, well, I thought they'd have been all over it,
like a bunch of you know, or his mates would
have been all right, But honestly, with only only a
couple of them of the.

Speaker 2 (01:35:32):
Well, that's quite that's quite respectful, because I know what
collectors are obsessive, don't do anything to get hold of
stuff they haven't got, so that's probably quite respectful.

Speaker 7 (01:35:41):
He's got four of the most sought after tools in
the world, which is as you imagine an ordinary woodworking plane. Yes,
such a Stanley plane. It's pre nineteen hundred ones of
the number one, so it's only two inches long.

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
Oh well okay, but it works perfectly.

Speaker 7 (01:36:02):
They were for the show, the salesman to take around
into to show. But so it's the number one standing
pre nineteen hundred and there are four of those, and
they're like, I'm not starling, but on a good day
you could probably get three grand each for those and
they're like the tall corrector's the Vanna and it took

(01:36:25):
him fifty years to get one of them. That's how
where they are.

Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
And that's pre the internet, isn't it.

Speaker 17 (01:36:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:36:34):
You know Dad used to scour the trade in exchange
newspaper and you find old people that were clearing SIGs
and stuff like that, and you know, only to clear
their shed for them. And yeah, and it's my brother
and I was sort of we love looking at some

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of it. But when you go up into the loft,
thing really turned into a museum, it's mind bending.

Speaker 2 (01:37:05):
Was it a good and it was a He was
a good craftsman, obviously.

Speaker 18 (01:37:07):
Is that right?

Speaker 7 (01:37:08):
My dad was a dad was I think a very
very good builder. He was a very good painter. And
he was also a qualified electrician.

Speaker 2 (01:37:18):
Okay, well you and you, you and your brother don't
want to use the tools. I suppose you can't rely
use a planet there the two. Let there.

Speaker 7 (01:37:26):
I'm a builder in my own right, so I'm not
very well at the moment, but I've been building for
forty years. So I've I've got a big tool collection
of my own of just modern tools. I can use
them whenever I like, And that but.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
Does he have does he have good does he have
good like ivory folding rules and stuff for boat builders
and stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:37:51):
Yes, there are a collection of rulers. I counted the
rulers the other day. Is probably one hundred and ninety
rulers at the moment, and there's five hundred and eighty
would we in plane like wood and metal ones going
back a couple of one hundred years, And they're all

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rebuilding them in pristine and you know, and they all
attract russ. They've all got to be wiped down with
vassaline and clean at least once a year, otherwise they
all go rusty, even though they're upstairs in the dehumidified room.
I mean, you know what I mean. It's and he

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also had vintage cars, so I've got we've got managed
to get rid of all of those and we kept
the best one, which took me a year to get running,
and I've just got it going and it's nineteen thirty
three Plymouth and yeah, it's a beautiful car and we've

(01:38:57):
we've got. Luckily, the registration was put on hold, so
it's still registered. But once again, what he do with it?
It's too old to drive on the road. It's one
hundred years old, nearly.

Speaker 2 (01:39:10):
Yeah, I don't know. That's the thing. That's why we're
talking about succession. There's also all sorts of museums that clap.
But you know, I don't necessary trust museums unless they've
got very good governance and a very good I think
too much stuff goes missing from museums has got an
extremely good lountry and good security.

Speaker 10 (01:39:29):
Well.

Speaker 7 (01:39:29):
Our neighbor, Jimmy Francis, was also a vintage car club collector,
order man next door. He died four years ago, and
his daughter came over from America and he had stationary
engines was his big thing.

Speaker 2 (01:39:46):
Yes, he had huge ones, huge and.

Speaker 7 (01:39:49):
She gave them all to a guy that starting up
a museum and mercer. So he just take a lot
and then as far as we know, he hasn't even
built his museum.

Speaker 2 (01:40:02):
Yeah, yeah, that's it. Yeah, Because yeah, that's always my
fear that people we can talk a big game and
say they need to go for a good home, but
then because actually, I mean, there's not much interest in
private museums people, but you know there aren't. There aren't
great because because if you're not in tools, you're not
gonna ben in tool. It's going to be a huge amount.
But it's a right. It's not a huge interest, is it.

(01:40:24):
I mean that's the thing about no interest show.

Speaker 7 (01:40:27):
People want to see it, they have a look at
it and they go, well, what's all this for? Or
they say, ah, these tools were irrelevant these days no
one uses Well my dad knew that. That doesn't mean
it's not what it was about for him.

Speaker 2 (01:40:41):
And the thing is, if you because I know a
bit about old tools, because I get it, you know,
I do have collected them over the years. But there's
always got every second had shot. There's always thousands of
those narrow planes for windows. What are they called.

Speaker 7 (01:40:55):
They're called the wooden ones. They're called a molding plane.

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
Yeah, so many molding planes, it must be there must
be one hundreds of thousands in the country.

Speaker 7 (01:41:03):
So each one had an individual shape. It's blade to
make your shape.

Speaker 11 (01:41:08):
He's of wood.

Speaker 7 (01:41:09):
So to make one particular molding, if it was by
the heavy scrolled mold, you might have ten different planes
that you to make it.

Speaker 19 (01:41:17):
And so you they are.

Speaker 7 (01:41:19):
It's just like I say, it's colossal, it's mine being there.

Speaker 2 (01:41:22):
And now with the elementium windows, you've got no interest
in the molding plane. Have you un thess she got
some old anyway.

Speaker 7 (01:41:28):
Apart from what Dad use them, I've never even used
one of those.

Speaker 2 (01:41:32):
Hey, look, Victor, I better run on. Nice to really
nice to hear from you, and I hope things are
looking up for you too.

Speaker 18 (01:41:39):
So yeah, a.

Speaker 7 (01:41:41):
Struggle at the moment, but I'm staying with it, and
ZB keeps me going, Yeah, well the night, I've got
a bit of pain and I can't sleep without your guys.
I don't know what I do.

Speaker 2 (01:41:53):
Okay, Well, nice to hear from you, Victor. Always nice
to hear from you. So thank you. Eighteen past eleven
and Marcus. Heart of the show this week, changing dog
for it from all Essentials to posse from Pardo. Thank you,
We'll save fifty per week. Tonight was the grumpy eighty
something year you must have treated the first half hour.

(01:42:18):
I let the first F bomb go that I dumped
the rest because the rest was really the rest. She
really went to town. It didn't really I mist understood
the first F bomb, but the next one, boy, yeah,
I'm glad you enjoyed that. I got a bit a
grief from that from one person. Marcus were making alcohol.
The first ten to twenty percent that comes out as

(01:42:39):
poisonous myth and I must be collected separately depending on
what you're fermenting. And ye stews. We used to start
our fire soaked in tea bags. Marcus, I'm sorry if
I missed it, but did you find the lost tvre?
I might caring. Yes, I grew my I brew my
beer in a grainfather conical Fermenta and glico'chiller. I produced

(01:43:01):
twenty five letters of commercial grade lager IPAs and stout
great to share the beer amongst family and friends. Marcus,
I clayed World War two memorability and have a large
model tank D Day diorama. Marcus just received my nurik
in You Are UK, which is traditional coreen fermentation starter

(01:43:24):
for my thirty k year of rice I will make
into sold you so exciting count Wait, it's actually cheaply
just by over the calendar, but like you, I enjoy
the process. Getting touched nineteen past eleven. My name is Marcus.
Welcome twenty two zero souths over the Broncos Cheapest. It

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really is against form because the rabbitozer I think they
are seventeenth. They are way down the bottom and Brisbane
were top eight.

Speaker 18 (01:43:55):
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:43:58):
They are eighth. It's sixteenth versus eighth. And also we've
got to play the cricket match against Angola and Papua
New Guinea. H Sorry, I thought, as I said at
Angola seemed like a strange thing to say Uganda and
Papua New Guinea. So I don't even know if we've

(01:44:22):
played those countries before. They certainly put it the welcome
made out to everyone for the twenty twenty World Cup.
But yeah, it's a disappointing thing that New Zeand's not
there at the point end of that one, so there
was that as well. Anyway, come on, let's be hearing
from your twenty nine away from twelve o'clock. My name
is Marcus hid On midnight tonight, Hey Marcus. At our

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local op shop, you can tell the nations from deceased
estates when several shelves a pair of just teapots or
ceramic caps or ginger jars and souvenir tales, that's exactly right.
Or when it's undated with teaspoons. I've seen massive tea
spoon collections. The other things I've seen in secondhand shops

(01:45:08):
is you know, used to get those folding matchbooks or
match box they call them matchbooks. I think with promotional
things with the printed on cardboard. Is that what you
call them matchbooks? People love collecting those. Unless you displayed them,
they weren't much used to just all get all dusty.
I think they're called matchbooks. The other thing that people

(01:45:29):
are made on collecting also would be like someone would
go overseas and collect like a ceramic giraffe, like a
tiny one. Then every time someone will go overseas and
get them, oh we have to get a giraffe. Rod Marcus,
he collects those and sort of, you know, within twenty
years time words got round and if you're overseas, you said, oh,
I get that for Marcus. So these people sort of

(01:45:51):
with a house of a thousand and four thousand different
little miniature giraffes around the house, or camels or Dalmatian dogs,
and of course once those people die, what do you
do with all of those? No one's going to want
four thousand ceramic dalmatian dogs into damation dogs, and most
people aren't. So you what succession plan do you have

(01:46:12):
for those well salt and pepper shakers to poison chealice
or teaspoons or badgers. So you might be one of
those collectors and what you're playing at the end for
all of that stuff because no one really wants them.
They're not of any value. They're just an interesting kind

(01:46:34):
of a document of we have been Louise. It's Marcus. Welcome,
thanks for calling a good evening. Hi, Louise.

Speaker 21 (01:46:43):
Hi collections. Yeah, I've got a couple of collections. I collect, uh,
mostly art echo, but lid since for as well. Lady lamps.

Speaker 2 (01:47:03):
Oh yeah, tell me what they are. That's that's a
it's a bowl held up by a steel statue of
a lady.

Speaker 18 (01:47:09):
Is that right?

Speaker 21 (01:47:11):
Oh, there's a huge variety. Some of them are plast
some of them are metal. And I've got some original
from originals from the nineteen thirty so the early reason
I've got.

Speaker 2 (01:47:24):
Sorry, sorry, I could just describe what they are again,
are a physical statue of a woman?

Speaker 7 (01:47:29):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (01:47:30):
Holding a ball?

Speaker 7 (01:47:30):
Is that right? Yes?

Speaker 11 (01:47:31):
Yes?

Speaker 21 (01:47:32):
Yes, holding a ball or sitting with a ball in
a hat. The variety. Some of them are plastic as
some of them. I don't have any brass ones or
anything Lutch or you know. Yeah, those skies are limits
as far as value goes have these things, and that's
why I already got forty.

Speaker 2 (01:47:52):
Are they all played? Are they all plugged in? Louise?

Speaker 11 (01:47:56):
They can all go?

Speaker 21 (01:47:57):
Yes, I haven't got more plugged in, but yes, they
do all work.

Speaker 7 (01:48:03):
Yeah, don't.

Speaker 21 (01:48:04):
I asked my daughters what they're favorite ones are. So
one of them was the most expensive one of her
favorite and the other one one of the cheap ones,
which I was quite surprised that. So I'm thinking about
putting their names underneath them or something, but I don't.
I don't think they'll be taking them to an op
shot somehow. I have seen lots of people's collections of

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op shots.

Speaker 2 (01:48:30):
Are you still acquiring them? And do you see them
around very often?

Speaker 10 (01:48:34):
No?

Speaker 21 (01:48:36):
No, they're pretty hard to come by, even on trade.
Me at the moment of a Barsney one on but
I think it might be a rip off, a repoll
or something.

Speaker 2 (01:48:49):
What what what did you say?

Speaker 10 (01:48:50):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
What's when did you say it was?

Speaker 10 (01:48:51):
Or what?

Speaker 21 (01:48:53):
Bartany which is the Australian Black Lady ones?

Speaker 7 (01:48:57):
What's what's that?

Speaker 2 (01:48:58):
What's that word?

Speaker 21 (01:49:00):
Barty B A R S O N Y. George Barsney
he made them in the fifties, and sixties. Wow, and yeah,
they're commanding up to You can pay two or three
grand to one of those, depending on how rare it
is you are. You aren't getting any change out of

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a grand to one of those at moments. They're very
hot because the mid century is so hot at the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:49:28):
And Barsony was a Barsony was an Aussie.

Speaker 21 (01:49:32):
Yes, George Barsney, him and his wife made them. They're
extremely considerable. I'm not sure where they were actually an Aussie,
but the lamps are all over the place. They also made,
you know, ladies holding ash trays and a few varses,
and some of them were ceramic, and they weren't black,

(01:49:56):
they were sort of white or cream. And those ones
are particularly expensive and rare. Yes, it's interesting. I've always
of them.

Speaker 2 (01:50:07):
And did did you even produce any?

Speaker 7 (01:50:11):
No, not that I know of.

Speaker 21 (01:50:15):
Most of mine I've got off eBay. Oh okay, yeah,
I did find one and it was a Barsny and
a second hand shob and I meant to beat him down.
I didn't realize how much it was worth it. Anyway,
there's a lot of kids through eBay. You know your

(01:50:35):
hope you keep the fingers and toes crossed that it's
going to come over in one piece. Yeah, yeah, people
who sell them pretty good like that. Actually they packed
them extremely well. Yeah, metal ones are sacie obviously, but
yeah they're very popular.

Speaker 2 (01:50:58):
Must hear from me? Always think I didn't know about
Barstyn interested in that he was a migrant after the
war from Europe obviously, to coming acro us in Guildford
and Sydneys where he made them good Evening Christ's Marcus.

Speaker 7 (01:51:12):
Welcome Marcus.

Speaker 17 (01:51:15):
Do you want me to give you a quick rundown
of the East Coast of the best places to move
to in Australia?

Speaker 2 (01:51:21):
What's your top five?

Speaker 5 (01:51:24):
My top five?

Speaker 17 (01:51:27):
The best place to go to currently for all the
different reasons is Brisbane. The second best place to go
is the Gold Coast. The third best place to go
is Melbourne.

Speaker 5 (01:51:42):
The fourth best.

Speaker 17 (01:51:43):
Place to go is Harvey Bay, which is northern Queensland,
and the fifth best place to go is Sydney. Wow,
and I've lived in.

Speaker 11 (01:51:55):
All of them.

Speaker 2 (01:51:56):
What's Harvey Bay about?

Speaker 17 (01:51:59):
Oh it's beautiful, It's absolutely beautiful. The only problem with
Harvey Bay is it's a three hour trip.

Speaker 7 (01:52:10):
From Brisbane.

Speaker 17 (01:52:12):
Three and a half hour trip from Brisbane to Harvey
back any industry there, Oh absolutely, there's ye. Heavy Bay
has the whale watching.

Speaker 2 (01:52:24):
Oh yeah, and it has.

Speaker 17 (01:52:29):
Well, it's expanded immensely since I actually finished my high
school there before I went to the University of Queensland.
And when I was there, there was one high school.
There's now seven high schools Shippers, and I'm only fifty five.
I'm only a couple of years younger than you. Yeah,

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there was one high school and it was Harvey Bay
Height and now and they even have they have one
hospital and one private hospital. My father when he fell
over on the building side and they had to whip
him up to Maryborough Base.

Speaker 5 (01:53:12):
Hospital because there was no hospital in.

Speaker 3 (01:53:16):
Harvey Bay at the time.

Speaker 17 (01:53:18):
And then they whipped him open and they found that
he was blind with cancer and.

Speaker 6 (01:53:22):
He died two years later.

Speaker 2 (01:53:24):
So the story, well it's not sad now, yeah, it's said, oh.

Speaker 17 (01:53:33):
Well anyway, you know, but he didn't know that he
had cancer, but yeah, but they wiked him open and
shut him and then he whipped over to Mexico to
Tijuana and tried to save his life and.

Speaker 2 (01:53:47):
Around there what what was what was Tijuana promising?

Speaker 11 (01:53:53):
Oh?

Speaker 17 (01:53:54):
Well, Bruno Lawrence had been there previously. Yeah, okay, and
and they had this sort of wheat grass and liver
diet and but Dad was Dad lost. Dad lost half
his weight in one month. And i'd actually just come

(01:54:16):
back to New Zealand at the time, and when I
went out to the airport, the only thing I could
identify him by was his voice.

Speaker 2 (01:54:24):
And I looked at him and he'd gone, that's heartbreaking, Chris.
And of course too that he'd gone on world to
Tijuana on false hopes too, so he's wasting his valuable
time doing things like that out of desperation.

Speaker 7 (01:54:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:54:39):
Well, I mean there was well, he was a pretty
powerful he was a detective in the New Zealand Police
Force and everything, and then he became a builder. But
he dropped, He dropped half his weight in one month,
and he looked like he had a big head and

(01:55:01):
a skin corriage. And I couldn't believe it. I just
couldn't believe it. And you know, I just, yeah, it
was a pretty amazing thing at Auckland Airport. Yeah, and
he said, no, sorry, I'm sorry, I'm going to get better.

Speaker 7 (01:55:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:55:21):
But anyway, I mean, you know, some people do, but
Dad had left it far too long.

Speaker 2 (01:55:29):
Well, he didn't. He didn't know, Chris, Well, he didn't.

Speaker 17 (01:55:32):
Know, and he was a big, powerful man. He was
eighteen stone man. He was a nine stone man when
I saw him. So to go from eighteen stone to
nine stone, I can't even believe the body can do it,
but I've seen it.

Speaker 5 (01:55:52):
It's incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:55:54):
We were talking about moving to Australia. I don't want to.
I mean not not that that cut down. I like
you talking about your father, but are you are you
thinking of moving there? Chris? Is that something that you
if you're wreaking out the five top places?

Speaker 17 (01:56:06):
Well, well, what's happened to me recently is because I
had an injury. Kay keana Ara have given me an
apartment in Northcote on the fourth floor was the most
beautiful views over Auckland. So that's actually hampered my situation.

Speaker 5 (01:56:32):
Wow, bastard, the bastes.

Speaker 3 (01:56:36):
I had it all planned.

Speaker 17 (01:56:39):
I've been waiting for my mom turns eighty next month
and she's going to the Gold Coast for her celebration,
and I'm doing this sneaky trip over to meet her
on the Gold Coast on her birthday. I hope she's
not listening because she Oh my God.

Speaker 2 (01:56:59):
I might have actually just Okay, we're going to get
out of there while we can. It's hope not Christopher
was a surprise.

Speaker 5 (01:57:06):
It was space to be a surprise.

Speaker 17 (01:57:08):
But I don't think she's listening because I know that
she's done well tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:57:12):
Okay, nice to hear from you, Chris Marcus. My mother
collected bells and her sister collected ol figures, and at
the funeral, they were all there and anyone was welcome
to take their favorite one. Most of them went, that's
a good story, and other Texas is. I went to
a funeral of a lady who collected China elephants. The
family gave everyone at the funeral. One of her elephants

(01:57:34):
is a keepsake. That's a great thing to do. Where's
your elephant wrong? Oh Maaj's died. Yeah, the family gave
it to me. That's a great thing.

Speaker 1 (01:57:43):
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