Full Show Podcast: 01 February 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:44):
Good morning, Welcome to Newsbalk's ed V. I'm Jack Tam
behind the mic through to midday today, Pinching a punch,
pinchon a punch first to February already. I know it's
one of those little weekends though, where I think heaps
of us are having barbecues this weekend, heaps of us
catching up with mates next weekend sort of the same
a you know, because especially if you take off the Friday,

(01:05):
although the kids are all back at school, but if
you take off the Friday, you get the four day weekend. So,
given it is barbecue season on newstik sai'd be before
ten o'clock this morning. We have a perfect recipe if
you've got to take something to a matespace for a barbecue,
you want to look like you put in a little
bit of effort. A delicious salad salad recipe that really
doesn't take too much work. And well, speaking of delicious,

(01:26):
little numbers, We've got a saucy little number for you
before ten o'clock as well, we're going to tell you
about Baby Girl. This is this new movie with Nicole Kidman,
basically a high powered CEO. That's Nicole Kidman's character puts
her career and family on the line when she begins
a torrid affair with a much younger intern, something we

(01:48):
can all relate to. I hope not. Well, we'll tell
you about Baby Girl before ten o'clock this morning, so
looking forward to that. Right now, it is eight minutes
past nine chime. Well, Donald Trump, you would have to say,
isn't wasting any time whatsoever. We can be sure of that,
whether it is his executive orders Greenland or his extraordinary

(02:11):
cabinet appointments. The President's strategy for his first few weeks
in ovis is obviously to move as quickly as possible,
to flood the zone, as they say in politics. And
for his opponents, there's just so much to be outraged
about they can't really keep up. But of the many
crazy things to observe, I reckon RFK Junior's confirmation hearing

(02:36):
this week has been a bit of a standout for me. Obviously,
the guy is wahy and unconventional, but having someone with
his history of campaigning against vaccines in such an important
public health row is extraordinary even by Donald Trump's standards.
Potentially dangerous for sure. But anyway, look, I don't want

(02:59):
to talk about vaccines this morning. Don't worry. I want
to talk about food because despite his unconventional persona, despite
how much I disagree with things he said about vaccines
and actions he's taken in the past, not everything about
rfk's health philosophy, if we can put it that way,

(03:19):
should be discounted. Not everything's loopy. And when it comes
to his attitudes towards ultra processed foods and America's big
food industry, I am one hundred percent on RFK Junior's side.
So in a nutshell, he reckons that like America's ultra
process food industry is contributing to and making Americans less healthy,

(03:44):
the combination of processing and you know, the use of
artificial engineered ingredients, factory farming, and excess sugar has contributed
to alarming health alarming health outcomes, And honestly, I agree,
I totally agree. Speaking personally, I reckon it was Michael
Pollan you know that amazing American author. I've actually had

(04:06):
him on the show a couple of times, so we
can call a friend at the show, Michael Polland it
was from him that I first adopted a bit of
a food philosophy of sorts, because he came up with
those simplest food rules when investigating food and nutrition. His
rules eat food mainly plants, not too much. But for

(04:26):
a long time now I reckon my food philosophy has
been the more that food has been processed, the more
it's been tinkered with, the more that it's been optimized
and engineered, the more that it has numbers for ingredients,
the worse it probably is for your health. Now, don't
get me wrong, I absolutely love junk food, absolutely love it. Right,

(04:49):
life is too short, though, as far as I'm concerned
to only eat numbers. I would just much rather have
a big wedge of carrot cake or a slab of
ginger crunch from a fancy cafe than junk food that
comes in a package. So I'd much rather have have
a pizza from an independent pizza place or an uncle

(05:12):
Man's Malaysian luxA than a combo and a coke from
one of the big chains, and I know they've made
efforts to improve their offerings over the years, but speaking personally,
it is I think almost eighteen years since I've had
anything from the likes of McDonald's or BKKFC, not even

(05:33):
a single fry, And honestly, I doubt I will ever
eat that stuff again in my life. In America, though
it is obviously much worse. Everything is processed, everything comes
in a packet. Every aisle at the supermarket is a
middle aisle. I'll never forget when a key we mate
came home for a month or so over summer and
accidentally left a bag of bread in the pantry of

(05:57):
his New York apartment while he was overseas, and so
he returned after four or five weeks, expecting to find
a writhing blob of blue pen nicillin in his pantry,
only to discover a bag of bread without a single
spot of mold, without a single spore anywhere. Yes, we wondered,

(06:19):
if that bread can survive a month in a warm cupboard,
what's it doing to us? And yet, on average, despite
spending twice as much on healthcare per capita than other
large wealthy countries, life expectancy in the US is five
years lower. It's bananas A. Well, it's not bananas. I

(06:41):
suppose it's yeah, high fruit tose corn syrup. A. They
spend twice as much per person on healthcare only to
live five years less. We can't pin at all on
ultraprocessed foods, but diet certainly plays a role in that
about half of the trillion US dollar supermarket industry they

(07:04):
reckon as ultra processed food in New Zealand dollars. That
means that the ultra processed food industry in US supermarkets
is worth about eight hundred and fifty billion New Zealand
dollars every year. So if RFK Junior is confirmed and
can break through some of the vested interests that underpin that, honestly,

(07:28):
all power to them. Jack D ninety two ninety two
is the text number if you're going to send us
a message this morning. If you are going to text me,
don't forget the standard text costs supply you can email
me as well. Jacketnewstalksb dot co dot nz is my
email address. Speaking of delicious food, I stumbled upon Auckland's
Latin Fiesta last night, which I can tell you is

(07:50):
a bit of me Altia Square kicked off last night,
so I went and had instead of having anything ultra
process I had a delicious pull pork with plum sauce
and hallumi arapa in Altia Square last night. I think
it's kicking off again today goes over the weekend. So
if you are in the nine and you fancy a
bit of a feed, I can strongly recommend the erectors
there as opposed to anything ultraprocessed. Kevin Melon's gonna kick

(08:13):
us off in a couple of minutes. Right now, it's
fourteen minutes past night. It's Saturday Morning of Jack Tame.
This is Newstalk's EDB.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
No bitter way to kick off your weekend.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
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Speaker 2 (08:28):
EDB seventeen past nine on News Talks, EDB. Roy says, yeah, Jack,
good food is natural medicine if only we could all
afford it. It's a ripoff, says Roy. Yeah, well, yeah,
that's true. Jack. Totally agree with you. Oppose RFK Junior
when it comes to vaccines. Think he's totally mad on
that front, but he has a lot of good points
when it comes to the big food industries in the US.

(08:49):
Ninety two ninety two is a text number if you
want to send your message this morning after ten o'clock
this morning. Cannot wait for this. Our feature interview this
morning is with Key We sing a songwriter Nadia Reid.
She has has some big changes in her life over
the last couple of years. She's become a mom, has
two new kids to new kids too. She's had two
children since her last album, and she just moved. She

(09:14):
has upsticks. She and her husband have moved from Port Charmers.
One of you would have to send the most beautiful
parts of this country to Manchester of all places in
the UK. She's just about to release her brand new album,
so we're going to catch up with her after ten
o'clock this morning. She's going to tell us about the move,
so looking forward to that right now though, time to
catch up with Kevin Milne, who's with us this morning.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
More than a Kevin in her and having new year Jack.
I know we've sort of moved on a bit now
since genuine first, but lovely to hear your wonderful voice again.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
Yeah, great to be speaking Kevin. Yeah, very much.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
So, Yeah, it's in your I take it you're getting
quite close to what lits describe it as D day
delivery day.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yes, yes, well, every morning I wake up, I sort
of think, well, that could have been the last nice
seven or eight hoar slop that I'll have in a
wee while. And every night before we go to bed,
my wife trolls me by saying, oh, I think tonight
could be the night that baby comes, and I say, don't, don't, will,

(10:18):
don't will yourself into labor at eleven pm. What we
need is to have a really nice, RESTful night and
then hopefully, you know, you wake up in the morning
and at nine am or something you think are things
are things are going to happen. But yes, it's very
much We're in countdown mode at the moment. Kevin.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
So are you nervous?

Speaker 2 (10:34):
Yeah, yeah, I suppose. I'm just excited. I think, you know,
I think I think we feel relatively organized and stuff.
But it's that weird sort of that sort of you know,
just a you kind of just that weird waiting feeling. Really,
you know, you know that life's about to profoundly change,
and you know we're not running off for any sort
of adventurous tramps or anything like that. Right now, you're

(10:57):
just sort of just sort of waiting.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Throwing my mind back forty two years to when we
head out first. Yeah, I was that we had end
up at the maternity to be told no, you're too early,
go back home. Yeah, for some reason, that's scared. I
just was sure I didn't want that to happen. Yeah,
we did leave it a bit too late.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Well, I think now they have that that that does
seem to happen to people. So you left it a
bit late in the end, did you.

Speaker 4 (11:26):
Yeah, Well then yeah, Alex was poking his head out
virtually before we've even got we got caught in the trap.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
It's probably a happy medium somewhere in the middle. I think. Yeah,
they've got these apps now so you can you can
time contractions, so you get it on your phone, so
you can time contractions. And then I think that's how
they try and work it out. You know, they work
out the frequency and intensity of the end of the contractions.
And if you're the dad, you can be sitting there
with your phone saying, right, give us a number out

(11:54):
of ten, how bad was that one? And then you
do the timings and then when they reach a certain point,
you say, okay, let's let's scurry along. So anyway, if
I'm not here at some point, you're really like you
recognize where Kevin. But anyway, Yeah, you have in the
last week or so, Kevin, You've struck some credit card fraud.

Speaker 5 (12:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Last Saturday, I went to Harvey Norman to buy a
phone charger and my credit card was rejected and they
couldn't tell me why. I assumed it was their issue.
Later that morning, I used the same credit card to
fill up with petrol, same thing, card rejected. When I
got home, I discovered that overnight we got an email
from the Bend's head saying that temporarily blocked our credit

(12:37):
card account. This was due to activity outside our normal
spending patterns. In the early hours of the morning. Apparently
five withdrawals had been made on our account by companies
in the United States, each withdrawal for around about five
hundred bucks. Fortunately, the BNZ had picked up the unusual

(12:57):
activity after just two withdrawals and blocked our account, so
the later three attempts to take money from our account
were prevented. Anyway, the email told us to call the
suspected fraud number on the back of your credit card.
The bank security person told us who had to do
two things, closed down the credit card and set up another.

(13:21):
They had already started that process, and we had to
put an acclaim against the bank to refund the one
thousand dollars or so taken from our account in the
first two withdrawals that they hadn't been able to stop.
That process was very swift, and the bank's already refunded it. Jack,
I've yet to establish if this fraud was in any

(13:42):
way enabled by us, but I was impressed by the
bn Z. My takeaway is, if your credit cards rejected
at a store for no apparent reason, don't just assume
you vented. You emptied your account yourself. Someone else might
be trying to empty it for you. Call up the
bank that issued the card right away.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah, I think that's really important advice. You know, you
want to be in contact with your bank immediately, and
most of them, you know, the big banks, with their
phone lines. Now you can if you're suspecting credit card forward,
you can get through to a human being pretty quickly.
You can also put your put your credit card on
hold on a lot of apps now, which is you know,
can be quite useful if you suspect that there's some
weird transactions underway and you don't want anyone else going

(14:26):
in there and you know, and and spending all your money.
So yeah, I'm glad that things worked out for you
okay in the ink, even because, my goodness, there are
certainly plenty of stories where they don't.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
My goodness, it must be happening all the time. Now,
these are the guys that the security guys just it
was just another phone call, really, just another somebody else
of their customers had had their account raided. Yeah, you know,
it's just it's very insane. I'm looking forward to finding
out a bit more about how it happened.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah, yeah, well see, yeah, thanks Kevin. Glad to hear
that things are well with you and that things turned
out okay. And look, Kevin, you're not the only one
who had a bit of drama Jack this time. Last week,
my niece was weekending in Parwanui water broke at eleven
forty five pm, headed off for the Pukakoy maternity Bubb

(15:19):
arrived at one am, though on the side of the
road atma Oh my goodness. Fiona you're stressing Me's not
the only one, Ryan says Jack. The apps don't always help.
My cousin's water broke at eleven fifty seven, hopped in
the car, headed to the hospital, delivered on the side
of the road. I wonder if Ryan and Fiona are related,
as those timings seem to work out. That seems that

(15:39):
wouldn't surprise me entirely. Only two ninety two. If you
want to send us a message, our Sporto andrews Saville
is here in a couple of minutes. It's twenty five
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Speaker 1 (15:49):
Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack team
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Speaker 2 (15:54):
That'd be okay, good news, Ryan and Fiona are related.
I just did think it was crazy that you'd have
two people texting to say that that had a bit
of a birthing drama last weekend at exactly the same time.
But it sounds like everything went well. So I'm pleased
to hear. Pleased to hear that. Right now is twenty
seven minutes past nine on Newstalks. He'd be our sport
Andrew Saville is here with us this morning, called.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
Us a Jack.

Speaker 6 (16:16):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, yeah, very well, thanks so two big calls from
two of New Zealand's most accomplished dames in the sporting
realm this week. Let's start off with Dame Sophie Pasco,
who friend of the show I reckon honestly, of all
our amazing interviews, we had that incredible interview with her
last year and in the second sort of latter half

(16:39):
of last year, and she's announced she's going to retire.
It was it was just one of these kind of
really frank, amazing exchanges. So we're going to make sure
that's on our Facebook page this morning if anyone wants
to go back and listen to that. But she has
announced that she's going to retire.

Speaker 6 (16:53):
Not a great shock really in the greatest schem of things.
She was winding down any way, but she now can
you move ahead with the rest of her her life?
I think I think she'll somewhere down the tree become
involved in swimming, swimming coaching and what having ever be
lost to the sport, which is good, But I mean,
where do you start with Dame Sophie Pasco. She not

(17:16):
only captivated the nation on a regular basis, winning all
those medals at Paralympics and paralworl games and.

Speaker 7 (17:25):
What have you.

Speaker 6 (17:26):
But the motivation, I'm sure Jack, She's given so many
people over the years to get over setbacks or just
even try swimming, or try sport or get into activity.
I don't think that can be underestimated when you look
at Sophie Pasco competing and swimming and you see the

(17:48):
joy that that brought her, and obviously all the hours
and hours and hours of hard work and training, but
not only motivational but inspirational on that front for so
many years too. And I think she deserves all the
accolades she's been receiving the last year, the last few days.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah, of course, Yeah, Yeah. It's sort of hard to
imagine that she won't be involved at you know, a
really high level and swimming or administration or you know.
I feel like we're still going to get the benefit
of catching up with Sophie pass go in a pre
public facing position for years to come.

Speaker 6 (18:21):
And when you have an accident like that as a
kid or any age, I suppose, or a setback at
any age, I suppose you can go either way, can't you.
And you can curl into a ball and and and
succumb to life's challenges or you you get up and
lift up again and keep going and find something that

(18:46):
that that motivates you. She clearly did with the swimming,
and again not only winning championships and medals for herself
and her team and family, but also providing such a
huge amount of inspiration.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
For a nation.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yeah yeah, no, well said so. From one dame to another.
Dame Lisa Carington has committed to the twenty twenty eight Olympics.

Speaker 6 (19:09):
And again not totally surprising. She sort of left it
open ended after Paris and the tail end of last year.
But she's in. She's in such fantastic physical shape and
I would assume mental shape. I'm sure she's taken a
break since Paris away from training and probably never ever

(19:30):
takes a long break from physical activity. But she's at
the peak still, So why would you And yes, it's
what is it, three years away? But why would you
not want to keep going? A lot can happen, I
suppose across a three year span, but she appears to
be well and truly motivated to carry on. And isn't

(19:51):
it amazing? Jack looking at those stats during the week
when she pretty much confirmed she was carrying on there's
Michael Phelps at the top of the ladder when it
comes to winning Olympic mess I don't think he'll ever
be beaten. But then in second place, there's an number
of legendary athletes on eight golds. And if Dame les

(20:12):
Sir Carrington won another goal, just one more in LA
in a few years time, she'd become the second most
successful Olympian in history, which is which is quite remarkable.
That's sagging.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
It's crazy, isn't it. That is just yeah, that is
actually stunning like that, that really is.

Speaker 6 (20:31):
I was looking on the list the other day. You're
saying bold and swimmers like Katie Ladecki and and some
swimmers from yester year as well, just legends of sport
globally and in history. And and Damelely Sir Carrington is
right there in the thick of it. And and if
she has success in LA and you can bet your

(20:51):
bottom dollar if she makes it through those three years
she will, then she will confirm her place in the
great of Olympic history.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Are you going to orkan def Sea tonight?

Speaker 4 (21:04):
No?

Speaker 3 (21:04):
But it is.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
With the Latin for Yesta, So maybe that's a it's
a question of priority for you, isn't it. Yeah?

Speaker 6 (21:10):
It closes with the what the Latin for Yester?

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Yeah, I didn't know was I stumbled across the Aucland's
Latin for Yester last night, which was great.

Speaker 6 (21:17):
So if you're in it's New Year, it's the Wali soon,
it's it's I don't want to spread myself too soon.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
Look, it's a. It's a.

Speaker 6 (21:29):
It's a very sunny, warm, one of those warm moighty
days in Auckland, so a big crowd expected for that
that Auckland see game later this afternoon's still top of
the table. It's going very real.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
Well yeah, yeah, I can't wait for that. Thank you
for our sporto Andrew Saville. The two is our textnun.
We'll get to more of your messages in a few minutes.
Right now, it's twenty seven to ten. This is Nadia Reid.

(22:14):
That song is called Hotel Santa Cruz. She's our feature
interview after ten this morning. It's what five years I
think since she released her last album. So since then
you had COVID blah blah blah, you've had well, she's
had two children and she's moved from Port Chalmers to
Manchester of all places. So she's moved right across the world.
She's gonna be with us after ten this morning. Tell

(22:34):
us about the move, why did she decide to upsticks?
And we'll have a bit of a listen to her
new music as well. So looking forward to that right
now though, time to catch up with our film review
of Francesca Rudkin is here with us.

Speaker 3 (22:45):
Morning.

Speaker 8 (22:46):
Good morning.

Speaker 9 (22:47):
Oh I last Nadia.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
Yeah, she's great, She's really amazing. She's yeah, yeah, that'll
be it'll be really something. So yeah, looking forward to that. Hey,
I have been excited about your films this morning. I've
been a bit cheeky about Nicole Kidman, but I feel like, well, no,
just I feel like this is a bit col Kim
is sort of having a bit of a moment at
the moment.

Speaker 8 (23:07):
He do you feel like so good in this film?

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Is she? Okay?

Speaker 8 (23:12):
It's really good in this film, and I feel like
she's been snubbed at it by the Oscars. But shoul
we haven't listened to the trailer.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Let's have it listened. Okay, So this is Nicole Kidman,
Antonio Bandettison, Harrison Dickinson in Baby Girl.

Speaker 9 (23:24):
Okay, you need to have a conversation.

Speaker 10 (23:28):
You're very young. I don't want are you?

Speaker 3 (23:31):
I think I have power over you because I could.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Make one call and you everything.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
Does that turn you on Winn's room?

Speaker 4 (23:41):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Dan, okay, tell us about baby Girl.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
Yes.

Speaker 8 (23:47):
So this is a very sort of sexy, erotic thriller.
It's a very complex, challenging and most likely polarizing film.
I really loved it. It's directed by Helena Raim and
it starts Nicole Kidman, Harris Dickinson and Antonio Banderaz and
Nicole Cadman. She plays a ceo Rommy and for all appearances,

(24:07):
she has it all. She has an amazing job, she's
a female leader in business, she has a beautiful home
to gorgeous children. It's successful theater director, her husband. But
she's really at the sort of point in her life
where she's prepared to blow it all up, just destroy everything,
to kind of find herself and sort of start fresh.
And the catalyst of the young intern Samuel, played by

(24:27):
harr Dickinson. He has quite a unique character. Actually, he
challenges her. It's sort of an inappropriate manner in the workplace.
He's quite bold, but he's also young and kind of
lacks a sophistication to him as well, and he's a
hard character to pin down. One minute, he's kind of charming,
he can be cruel, they can be sexy, angry, and

(24:48):
then really sweet and quite immature. And that's because he
kind of represents a fantasy for Mommy. She's able to
delve into, kind of and explore some of her darkest
sort of sexual needs. There's been a lot of reaction
to this film for the reason I just mentioned, from

(25:09):
a woman wanting to explore her dark a sexual needs,
to a female leader abusing her power over an employer,
e to the way that Ronny deals with her marriage.
But it's fabulous in the way it's so confrontational. You
can't leave this film without going, Okay, that was really
full on. There was a lot going on here. Let's

(25:30):
start unraveling there and potentially having some really interesting conversations
with your girlfriends. Nicole CapMan is absolutely fantastic in this film. Look,
I think it's fair to say, and people will know
where I'm coming from when I say this, but often
when we see her in TV shows and things now,
she's what I call lit out like she's lit in
such a way that she just you don't see her age.

(25:52):
She always looks amazing in a maculate and she does
in this film as well, But I think she's been
shot a little bit more naturally. You see the crow's
feet on her face, you see the lines on her face,
you see her as a middle a woman, Yeah, addressing
kind of her sexual needs. And I think that's really
important for you to relate to her. You'll love it

(26:13):
and you'll hate it. Like her behavior and her actions,
you kind of understand them, but you won't like them all.
But I just felt like she's really put herself out there.
This is a very brave role. Okay, she sort of
did it with eyes widehu many years ago, but she
had a husband by her side when she shot that film.
In this particular film, obviously she's older.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
You know.

Speaker 8 (26:34):
It's a film about a middle aged woman exploring her sexuality,
and she really puts it all out there.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah. Oh that sounds great, sexy, ironical Saturday morning. So
I love it and I'm here for it. I'm here
for it. Okay. So that is Baby Girl that's showing
in cinemas now, and like you say, lots of buzz
around that one. Let's have a listen to our second
film for something completely different. This is You're cordially invited

(27:06):
taking into the bradal suite.

Speaker 11 (27:07):
My sister is getting married this week.

Speaker 12 (27:08):
I think there might be a little mistake because my
daughter is getting married.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Ooh no, we've double booked your weddings. What.

Speaker 13 (27:15):
Oh, I'm calm, Oh, I'm super cold.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
Ah that old classic situation, A recent and Will fair
all are the familiar voices you probably recognize. They tell
us about You're cordially invited.

Speaker 8 (27:30):
Well, this is directed by Nicholas Sola, and really the
trailer sums it up beautifully. This is a fun romantic comedy,
the kind of misses as much as it hits. It's
very much reliant on its two likable leaves. Will Farell
is a solo dad. His wife died years ago and
he's raised his daughter. They're very close. She comes home

(27:51):
from college and says, Dad, I'm getting married, and he goes, ah, okay,
and he's shocked by the whole thing, but decides he's
going to give his daughter that the wedding of her dreams.
At the same time, Reese with a Spoon plays Margo
and she wants to give her sister her wedding of
her dreams, and they book the same venue and they
turn up and it's on a little island and there's

(28:12):
not a lot of other options, so they decided to
share the venue, and chaos kind of ensues.

Speaker 14 (28:16):
Some of it is really funny, some of it just
misses being funny, and it's a bit odd or a
bit crass, But all in all, this is meant to
just be a pleasant crowd pleaser, and it kind of
ticks that box.

Speaker 8 (28:30):
Although I spent most of my time admiring Reef's Witherspoon's
hair and wondering whether I should get bangs. So that
tells you how gripping tells you how mostly gripping this
film is jack so much at all. But you're actually
just you know, taking in the haircuts and the clothes.
But look, if you after some light hearted, silly fun,
this is screaming on Prime.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah, is it?

Speaker 15 (28:50):
Like?

Speaker 2 (28:50):
You know how, like will Fare, all movies almost have
their own kind of they're almost like a genre unto themselves.

Speaker 8 (28:58):
Yeah, And that's the thing. It kind of goes halfway there,
jack fully there, And so when they do kind of
go along that irreverent kind of slightly haughty key Will
Ferrell kind of approach it sort of jarred a little bit. Yeah,
it's a bit of a mix. It's it's and that's
why it didn't quite work for me. Okay, but I

(29:18):
think the two leads are great together, be great together.
They drive the whole thing. It's fun, it's light and
you know you might getting your haircut out of it.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
Yeah, okay, well, okay, open minded. I do love Will Ferrell,
so yeah, thank you. So that's your cordially invited. Francesca's
first film is Baby Girl, and all of the details
for those movies are gonna be up at Newstalks hearb
dot co dot nz Ford slash Jack. That is, of
course the best place to go for everything from our

(29:47):
show Baby Girl is showing in cinemas, and the one
with Will Ferrell and Reese Withersplane you're cordially invited as
showing on Prime video if you just feel like veging
out on the couch as well this weekend. You don't
really want to leave home, you just feel like watching
a couple of good shows, maybe binge watching some shows
at home. Good news. After ten o'clock this morning, we

(30:07):
have our screen time segment, we're going to tell you
about Rogue Heroes. You might have seen the first season.
It's a season kind of about that the Mavericks who
formed the Sas around the Second World War, and that
the first season was on TVNZ. Plus they've just released
a second season of Rogue hero So I'm going to
tell you a bit more about that very So next up, though,
our cook is here with this week's feature recipe, and

(30:29):
this is a perfect salad if you're heading to someone's
for a barbecue over the next couple of weekends. Call
it to ten. You're with Jack Tame. This is news doalg' EDB.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
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Speaker 2 (30:48):
Thirteen minutes to ten on your Saturday morning. Nicki Wix
is our cook and she's with us this morning morning.

Speaker 16 (30:54):
Yes, good morning Jack.

Speaker 2 (30:56):
So rappers have you had them before?

Speaker 8 (30:59):
Rappers?

Speaker 2 (31:00):
I love it, Rapper, you love a little chicky little rapper.
I had a surprise I rapper for dinner last night,
which was so it was that I just was basically
I was going to David Sadaris, Right, David Sadaris, the
amazing what you were there last night. I felt like, honestly,
I felt like I knew half the audience. So I'm

(31:21):
surprised we didn't bump into each other.

Speaker 16 (31:23):
I was surprised we didn't know. Anyway, our listeners are
going to get so bored with.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Us, Okay, yeah, well I'm going to talk about it,
tell them about David David sadaras a little bit later
in the show. But so before I went to David Sadars, obviously,
my my one offul wife, Marv is thirty eight weeks pregnant,
so getting in dinner early was of an absolute focus,
and I thought, we'll go to Tanuki's Cave, the legendary
where I was. Of course you were well because you
got in before us. We couldn't get a seat at

(31:48):
Tanuki's Cave, so and Steering went outside. We're at Altier Square.
They were having the Auckland. They were kicking off the
Orkland Latin Fiesta. So I ended up having a delicious
South American. There's always a debate whether it was the
Venezuelans or the Colombian who invented at epas, but it
sort of the national food of both. So I had
and a rapper with pulled pork plum sauce and halloomi

(32:10):
last night, which was amazing, and it was about the
size of a baby, to be honest. So my wife
looked really similar afterwards.

Speaker 16 (32:17):
Yeah, so I used to go to Conch before they
closed down. It was the only other place that I
knew that did that. Because so for our listeners, so
they are are they father beans?

Speaker 2 (32:28):
No, I think it's called worn. You think, Oh you
mean that goes in them? Huh yeah, that goes there. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
could we will be father beans? Mine was.

Speaker 16 (32:36):
It's kind of and it's kind of like I always
describe them, it's kind of like a corn English muffin.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
Yes, yeah, that's actually the word.

Speaker 16 (32:43):
Thinking about it a little bit like you know, if
you can imagine it made out of corn or polenta,
and so that they sort of he's easily quite stodgy,
but then you mix it, you know, you can fill
them with all sorts of wonderful ingredients. I love them.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
They're majestic anyway.

Speaker 16 (32:56):
Yeah, and we're talking about that because of bean salad.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
Oh yeah, got nice. I'm glad that you thought of
a transition, because I was just going to say, well, yeah,
you've got a delicious salad rest for us, because there
is sort of barbecue season at the moment, especially over
the next few weekends. I think, so yeah, people around
the country.

Speaker 16 (33:12):
People around the country have got long weekends and we're
all still barbecuing. Like, man, what I love about this?

Speaker 10 (33:17):
Really?

Speaker 16 (33:17):
I mean, it's your quintessential Kiwi bean salad. I don't
think I've barely changed it at all over the years.
I think it's just so great for convenience sake, Jack,
you could definitely use canned beans. But I've got to
tell you, if you go and buy a selection of
dried beans from your local bolk store or wherever you

(33:38):
get your dried beans from, and soak them and cook
them up, it's going to be better. They've just got
more what I say, grittin determination about them. They've got
more bite to them. The canned ones are fine, but
they can be a little bit mushy. So anyway, this
is a great one. Also because lots of us have
got tons of green beans or purple beans, runner beans
coming out of the garden as well. So look, I

(34:00):
take one cup of sliced green beans lightly cooked. I
just sort of shot them into not little bits, but
of two or three centimeter slices, and I pour boiling
water over them. Jack, because if you boil them and
forget about them, they go that beautiful gray color. If
you just tip boiling water over them, maybe drain it
and do it twice, and you just leave them to
sit in that, then actually you just get the beautiful crunch.

(34:23):
But they are still a little bit cooked, which is great.
Now the dressing. You want to sim of this in
a little pot. Three quarters of a cup of sugar. Mmm,
I know that's a lot of sugar. And I say
in my recipe, this recipe was in my latest book
and more from a quiet kitchen, I say, any will
do I use white sugar and look at that so
and one cup of side of vinegum and a quarter

(34:43):
of a cup of ootlive water and you kind of
simmer all of that together until the sugar is dissolved.
Set that aside, and that's going to call the rest
of our salad ingredients. We've got a cup of those
sliced beans, We've got three to four cups of soaked
all the canned beans you can use kidney beans, black beans, billotti,
any of those.

Speaker 10 (35:02):
All of those.

Speaker 16 (35:03):
Just make sure if they're the canned ones, that you've
drained them quite well. Half a red of half a
red onion. You can slice that really thinly.

Speaker 13 (35:10):
If you don't like raw.

Speaker 16 (35:12):
Onion, I recommend slicing it or dicing it and then
chucking it in a little bowl of water with some
lemon juice in it. It'll take a little bit of
the sting out of it for you if you're not
really a huge raw onion fan. But I do recommend
you still use it in the salad. A cup of
diced red green or yellow capsicum, again in season at
the moment, which is great. Half a cup of diced cucumber,

(35:34):
again fantastic because it's in the season. Half a teaspoon
of salt or more, you'll do that to taste later.
On quart of a teaspoon of ground black pepper. And
I like a small handful of kind of parsley through that.
So toss the salad, you know, all together with the dressing.
And there's loads of dressing in this, and the reason
for that is I then store this in a container

(35:56):
and I'll feast on it throughout the week, or take
it to these places if I'm going there, and you
can keep adding to it so as those beans keep
coming out of that garden, you know, the rut the
green beans, or as the capsicans coming out of the
garden or some you know, you've got another one. You
can just keep adding to it and the dressing will
kind of keep it all fresh. And it's really good
for a week, maybe even a little bit longer. And

(36:18):
I just love it. It goes with absolutely.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Everything, certainly does. Yeah, that's so fantastic. That's nice. I
reckon you have to go raw onion even a little bit,
you know, Yeah, I think so you just want that bite.
You just want that part, don't you think.

Speaker 9 (36:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (36:33):
And I'm and as I said, I'm not a big
raw onion fan, but I'll always do the little soaky,
soaky thing and it's great. It just works a treat
with a little bit of lemon juice. It still tastes
like but it's just taken a little bit of that burnout.
Sometimes that can repeat on people. I think I think
you start saying that at a certain day.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah, starts repeating on me.

Speaker 16 (36:52):
I've never enjoyed that date saying that to me once
something might repeat on me.

Speaker 8 (36:58):
I was like, it's not a.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Great line, the romance a little bit. You wouldn't hear
that Nicole Kidman baby sexic thriller. No, I don't think
you would not. Hey, thank you so much. We're taking
it into Will Ferrell or exactly exactly that recipe will
of course be on the news talksz'db website.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
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Speaker 2 (37:29):
Why I've done an absolutely terrible job this morning of
getting to your comments and feedback. So thank you very
much for all of your messages. I swear after ten
o'clock I'm gonna do a much better job. Jack says, Nigel,
totally agree with your comments regarding processed foods. Feels like
processed foods and ultra processed foods are having a little
bit of a moment at the moment. Yes, I think

(37:49):
you're right with that one, Nigel. My ethos around food
has always been that if it comes in a packet,
it isn't a whole food, and that ultimately whole foods
are going to be more nourishing for you, going to
be more nutritious, probably not quite as delicious as some
of the ones in the center aisles of the super Yeah. Yeah,
I think you're probably right on that one, Nigel. It's funny, right,

(38:11):
don't they say that in nature? I think it's really
hard to find foods that have the combination of carbohydrates,
sugars and fats that you often get in ultra processed foods.
But anyway, you look at those health stats and the
health spending in the US, and then you correlate that
with the diet and I reckon that. Rfk Jr on
that point, if not on many others, talks a lot

(38:31):
of sense. Anyway, more feedback after ten o'clock ninety two
ninety two's the text number you can email me like
Nigel did. Jacketnewstalksb dot co dot nz is the email address.
Don't forget. Our feature interview right after the ten o'clock
news is ki we Museo. Nadia read she has just
upsticks moved across the world with her young family to Manchester,

(38:51):
which has a bit of a musical dynasty as it is,
so catching up with her about that her new album's
about to be dropped as well. News is next though
it is almost ten o'clock. I'm Jack Tame, It's Saturday
morning and this is Newstalk ZEDB.

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Speaker 2 (39:23):
Just so good Day. In less than a week's time,
Kiwi Museo, Nadia Reid is going to release her fourth album.
The album is called inter Now Brightness. It's her first

(39:46):
album in five years, and from what we've heard so far,
it is a record of poise and beauty and a
little bit of fun as well. Nadia Reid is with
us this morning, Kilda, Good morning.

Speaker 17 (39:58):
Ah Keilder, it is good morning. I'm in the night.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
The I think of the night, Well, this is it.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
I feel like that we should confront the elephant in
the room immediately, which is that into our brightness. Marks
has shifted on lots of different fronts, but I suppose
it also, Mark's a literal shift for you. You're speaking to
us from Manchester, of all places, and this is your
new home.

Speaker 13 (40:24):
It is been here fourteen months.

Speaker 17 (40:29):
Yeah, it's it's it's starting to feel at home now.

Speaker 13 (40:33):
Yeah, it's taken me a while.

Speaker 17 (40:35):
I think anyone that's been to Manchester, well, anyone that's
been the UK knows that arriving in the depths of
winter is a tough one. But it's grown on me
and yeah, it's feeling good.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
It's a shock, isn't it. When you see the sun
setting like quarter to four in the afternoon, you think,
hang on, hang on, I'm being robbed here.

Speaker 17 (40:59):
Totally, and just you know, we're just like taking Vitamin
D every day because you actually don't see I mean,
there was a little bit of sun today, but yeah,
I'm hanging out for a Kiwi summer for sure.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Yeah. So why Manchester, Why Manchester of all places?

Speaker 17 (41:21):
Well, my management lived here, I and my press agent
lived here, lives here, and so I visited over there
last well since twenty sixteen. I visited Manchester a lot,
and well, I toured the UK a lot, and I
think initially I was I really was quite smating with Brighton,

(41:44):
and you know, I really like London and I think
those places perhaps were just a little bit well, it
just didn't feel like the right time to be in
London and so we went up north and knew three
people and just kind of took a bit of a

(42:06):
risk c really and it's I mean also, I think
there is a bit of an exodus happening at the moment,
Like people are leaving London and moving sort of all
over the place because they want more room. And you know,
even my friends in London who have very fancy jobs,

(42:28):
you know, they're still in very small flats and I
just wanted a bit more.

Speaker 13 (42:33):
Space.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Yeah, good for you.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
It's not like Manchester doesn't have a rich musical history
as well, so you know exactly, yeah, yeah, oh very good. Well,
one adventure for you and your family. But like I say,
into ow Brightness kind of marks a bit of a
shift on multiple fronts, including stylistically. And so you've got
a collection of tracks that have written all over the place,

(42:58):
I think from Port Charmers to Tama Chema, Koto Auckland
to tenor Reef of all places. So what were you
trying to achieve with internap Runness.

Speaker 17 (43:11):
I think this album was that the approach was different
because when my third album Out of My Province came
out March twenty twenty, that the whole natural order of
things was kind of interrupted. You know, we were all
going through this universal experience of the pandemic, and of

(43:33):
course the borders closed, and so suddenly my year of.

Speaker 13 (43:38):
Touring was suddenly.

Speaker 17 (43:41):
Not there, and so I didn't get to kind of
stretch that album's legs and you know, kind of have
the natural time an experience to write the next album.
So it actually took me two years to write. And
you know, at one point I thought, well, I don't
have terribly much to say. You know, we were sort

(44:03):
of inside, we were in our home homes, and at
times it was quite confronting.

Speaker 13 (44:09):
But it turns out I did have.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
I had.

Speaker 17 (44:13):
I wrote twelve we recorded twelve songs Tina, which made
it onto the album. So somehow throughout that those two
years and a few years prior, I wrote all these songs.
And I suppose in terms of what we were trying
to achieve it, I didn't terribly think too much too

(44:36):
far ahead. Really, you know, I think sometimes when you
said out, I mean, I've made four albums now, and
every every time I've made a record, there's always a
point in which it feels really impossible, or it feels
too hard, or that you can't see the end, and
so I suppose I was just trying to make the

(44:58):
best use of time with everyone, you know, being in
the country. And also I was pregnant with both my
daughter is over the two years, and so there was
this sort of sense of I don't know, sort of
urgency perhaps that you know, I wanted it in the

(45:18):
bag before the baby came, and it didn't. You know,
it wasn't done until I flew out to the UK.
That was the marking point of it being finished.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
You're listening to Jack Tame on new Stalk ZB. I'm
speaking with Kiwe Museo, Nadia Read and Nadia you mentioned
your kids. So in the years since your last album
you have had two. How do you feel that has
kind of changed your perspectives or changed your creative output.

Speaker 13 (45:57):
I mean, it's it's it's a huge, it's a huge thing, and.

Speaker 17 (46:03):
You know I've been I mean, I could say so much,
but it's been so much better than I expected. And
I think there was this fear around, you know, do
I have to choose? And I remember before I when
I first met my now husband.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
You're listening to Jack Tame on news Talks. I'db I'm
speaking with Kiwei Museo, Nadia Read and Nadia you mentioned
your kids. So in the years since your last album,
you have had two. How do you feel that has
kind of changed your perspectives or changed your creative output.

Speaker 17 (46:46):
I remember saying to him, like, if I have to choose,
you know, I want I don't want to give up music,
like I want this career. You know, it's so it
feels so fulfilling to me. It gives me such great purpose.
So if someone's making me choose, I choose this and
then slowly I sort of, you know, softened into.

Speaker 13 (47:08):
Things.

Speaker 17 (47:08):
And then I've had had the two girls, and you know,
I've got an abundance of women musicians that inspire me.
You know, Tammy Nielsen, I've had like amazing talks with
her about how how she manages motherhood and touring and
you know, I mean, I we don't want to talk politics,

(47:31):
but c Cinda I done was an amazing you know
at that time, you know, to see a woman having
a job and being a mom, you know, it was
meaningful to me politics aside. And so I suppose, you know,
I feel proud at the moment because I do have
both I'm making it work and I have a really

(47:53):
good co parent, and I think it's uh, you know,
I read a quote recently by another artist who said,
you know that the pram in the hallway isn't the
enemy of art, and so I guess that's kind of
just my I'm feeling invigorated by yeah, by living in

(48:18):
this time where where I'm not saying it's easy, but
but it's given me this deep sense of meaning. Mother
mothering has given me a deep sense of meaning and
it's but then it's humbling.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
The reason sorry to talk that. I think on the
first track on the album is it Emmanuel, I think
you had an experience because you were leaving Port Charmers
and you know, kind of packing up home and you
had a young baby, and there was a sense in
writing that song that yeah, there was you sort of

(48:58):
get you get hit by the wave of purpose that
that people talk about coming with parenting, and you sort
of you know, and you're left contemplating some of the
big questions in.

Speaker 17 (49:07):
Life totally, And I think it's you know, the first
line is yeah, like can this circle never break? There's
there's far too much at stake now, and I think
I had that sense of you know that there's someone
else that really matters, and the other the other sort

(49:28):
of thing I sort of have kept in the well,
I keep it in the back of my mind as
a as a Carlion quote that where he says, you know,
the greatest burden a child must can carry is the
unlived life of its parent. And I suppose I keep
that in mind when I'm when I'm out doing this

(49:49):
crazy thing on stage, you know, and traveling and doing
this sort of bizarre, mysterious work that you know, the
more fulfilled I am, the better the better mum I
can be.

Speaker 13 (50:05):
And so yeah, so it's I guess I suppose I've answered. Yeah,
I mean it's it's been better than I expected.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Yeah, yeah, putting that out and put it on the
tea towel, Like.

Speaker 17 (50:26):
You know, when I was pregnant the first time, I was,
like I said to my husband, like, if someone tells me,
if I hear one more person say enjoy your sleep,
well you can, I'm going to scream because I mean, yes,
like it's tiring and it's crazy, but also like you
can't forget that you're deliriously tired, but like it's just

(50:50):
it's also really just deliciously joyful as well. So there
was this kind of and I love to sleep, you know,
I could sleep ten hours every night, so I was
really worried about my sleep. But you know, you just
sort of you're all jacked up on the hormones. And yeah,

(51:10):
and also as a touring musician, like my friend Holly
for Brooks said like, we're actually like pretty well trained
for this mothering thing because we're used to like not
getting much sleep and like sort of being under high pressure.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Time zones and just kind of no routine and yeah, yeah.

Speaker 13 (51:30):
Exactly, so it's actually quite good training for.

Speaker 3 (51:35):
It.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
So you're back home just before Christmas. I think you're
touring in the UK shortly, and what's the plane are
you gonna bring? Like come back here but later in
the year and maybe do a bit more touring.

Speaker 17 (51:46):
It's yeah, we're looking at November, so I really want
to catch the Selfishly, I'm going to time it around
summer because in December and January it's just a small
hair yah.

Speaker 13 (51:59):
But also yeah, it's.

Speaker 17 (52:01):
Just timing, and but I can't wait to know, I think,
and I'm lucky that, you know, I have this sort
of job that's going to bring me back every so often,
and my band is still living there, so it's I
definitely have a lot of sort of heartstrings still pulling.

Speaker 13 (52:23):
Yeah, well across the oceans.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Yeah, oh, I'm pleased to hear that. Hey, congratulations on
Into Our Brightness and yeah, good luck for the for
the next few weeks and for touring in the UK,
and we do very much look forward to having you
back on home soil.

Speaker 13 (52:38):
Oh, thanks so.

Speaker 2 (52:39):
Much, really good to chat, Nadia. Nadia read. Her new album,
Into Our Brightness is out on Friday on all of
the usual streaming platforms, or you can pick up a
vinyl copy at Nadia Reid dot com. Right now, it
is just coming up to twenty one minutes past past
ten on News Talks. He'd been a couple of minutes.
If you're looking forward to a weekend on the couch,

(53:00):
I feel like some binge watching. Three fantastic shows to
recommend in our screen time segment.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
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Speaker 2 (53:15):
Twenty three past ten on your Saturday morning, which means
it's screen Time Time on News Talks EDB. Screen time
expert Tara Ward is here with her picks for us
this weekend. Hey Tara, good morning. Three new shows watching
or streaming at home. So tell us first of all
about Paradise on Disney Plus.

Speaker 18 (53:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (53:34):
This is a fantastic new American drama that's just dropped
this week, and it feels like a mix between The
West Wing and The Truman Show. It's created by Dan Fogelman,
who made the very popular show This Is Us, and
it stars Sterling K. Brown and James Marsden and Sterling K.
Brown plays the head of the security service for the

(53:55):
American President and he arrives at work one day to
find the president dead and has to work out what
has happened and who's responsible. And there's a lot of
flashbacks that flesh out the relationship with the President and
how they've worked together over the last few years. But
the thing about the show is that there's something happening
in the background, very quietly, that isn't quite right. There's

(54:16):
something strange about the world that this story is set in.
And there's a twist at the end of episode one
that I won't give away, but it changes things completely
and gives the show quite a different tone and direction
in a good way. It's a really interesting idea and
makes the show stand out from other political thrillers.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (54:36):
I like this a lot.

Speaker 19 (54:37):
It's taking that well known format of the American political
thriller and playing with it and having a bit of
fun with it, but still giving us believable characters and
tense drama. The story does unfold quite slowly, but it's
smart and slick. There's a bit of mystery in there
as well, and it's just really entertaining storytelling.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Toe superb Okay, that's Paradise. It's on Disney Plus on
TV and Z Plus a new series of Rogue Heroes.

Speaker 13 (55:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (55:02):
This is a great BBC drama. It's a World War
two series in the North African desert and it's inspired
by true events. It's the story of how the ESAs
was formed during World War II, and so it follows
three British soldiers who in nineteen forty one are feeling
pretty disillusioned with the progress of the war. They come

(55:23):
up with this idea that they could do more damage
on the ground than in the air, and they formed
this group of soldiers who parachute in behind enemy lines
and fight the enemy when they lest expect it. And
they kind of made this up as they went along.
They lived by this ethos.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
Of no rules.

Speaker 19 (55:39):
They would recruit other soldiers who were troublemakers and had
no problems doing things a little bit differently, and the
show follows these guys as they keep risking their lives
to pull off these unlikely feats in the war. So
it's full of adventure and danger and fights and explosions.
There's some really big energy here. It's got a modern

(56:01):
soundtrack which adds to that as well, but funny too.
There's lots of humor in this which keeps at light.
The cast is great. It stars Dominic West and Alfie Allen.
The characters are all, you know, likable rogues. They don't
always do the right thing, but you can't help like them. Again,
another really entertaining, well made show, and it's not trying

(56:23):
to stick completely to the facts.

Speaker 8 (56:24):
It's not trying to give a history lesson.

Speaker 19 (56:26):
But it's just a lot of fun to watch.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Yeah, okay, great, it sounds awesome. The new series of
Rogue here, So that's on TV and Z Plus and
on Netflix, tell Us about the Recruit.

Speaker 19 (56:36):
Yeah, another new spice thriller. I feel like there's been
so many spy Fellers coming out lately. But this is
the Recruit on Netflix. It's the second season drop this week.
And this series is directed by Doug Lyman, who made
films like The Bourne Identity, Mister and Missus Smith Edge
of Tomorrow, so you know he knows how to make
an action packed blockbuster and that's effectively what The Recruit

(56:57):
is in TV series form. This is about a young
CIA lawyer who, on the first week of the job,
gets caught up in an international case involving a former
spy who is threatening to leak important classified details unless
he can help her get out of jail. And look,
I'm not going to pretend this is the best TV

(57:17):
show ever made. This is another show that is just entertainment.
If you want an action thriller that is bingible and
has a bit of charm to it, this will do
the trick. You probably won't remember it for a long
time afterwards, but you'll have a great time watching it.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
Yeah nice, Okay, it sounds good. So that's the Recruit
that's on Netflix. Rogue Heroes is on TVNZ Plus and
Paradise is on Disney Plus. Thank you so much, Tara.
We will talk again this time next week. Right now,
it is twenty eight minutes past.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
Ten, getting your weekend started.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team on News talk zbeah It.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
A bit of a twist in an old favorite day.
That's sing It Back by Young Franco featuring Danna Williams.
So Young Franco is like an ossie DJ who's released
his debut album hot off the summer festival circuits. He
was in New Zealand playing at R and V in
Gisbon over New Year's Rhythm and Vines, originally from Brizzy,

(58:32):
but probably best known for remixing the work of some
of the hottest artists in the world right now, the
likes of Charlie x X and Dua Lipa, sampling those
classic disco tracks that we know and love as well.
The album For the album, rather Young Franco has really
kind of leaned on collaborators to create a bit of
a mix, a bit of a blend genre wise. The

(58:54):
album's called Frankie Baby, and we're gonna make sure we
save a little bit of time on the show so
we can have a listen before twelve o'clock today, before
before eleven o'clock. Rather, we're in the garden with rue
kleimb passed our man then the garden. Next up though
our Texpert where the big week and robotaxis and AI.
Right now it is twenty eight minutes to eleven.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic Hosking
Breakfast turns.

Speaker 12 (59:21):
Out the United States now our second biggest export market,
where once Australia was everything. Now it's third. So China,
the US and now Australia trade mins to Tom mclo's, well, look.

Speaker 20 (59:28):
I think there's softness in the Australian market, so that
filmed us through to sort of our trade. But it's
still very very important to us about what's happened in
America is they are consuming more and as their economy
is growing quickly, they're looking towards many countries of the
world and New Zealand. Incidentally, although this isn't to do
with President Trump. When he became president last time, our
trade with the US grew very very quickly, and although

(59:49):
there's a bit of uncertainty about what he might or
might not do around tariffs, my prediction is New Zealand
exporters will do very very well in the US market.

Speaker 12 (59:56):
Back Monday from six am the Mic Hosking Breakfast with
the Rain Drover of the Last News Talk ZB.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Twenty five to eleven on newsbook zib. Well, the AI
world was sort of turned on its head this week.
Went out of nowhere a Chinese company, and a Chinese
AI model run by a company called deep Seek was
released to the world and for a fraction of the cost,
like a one hundredth of the cost of the likes

(01:00:22):
of chat GPT produced what appeared to be a pretty
effective generative AI model. So you could go online and Jay, hey,
write me an essay on the fall of the Roman Empire.
I need two thousand words, and I need it in
fifteen seconds, and it could do it. Our texpert Paul
Stenhouse is here with the details, and Paul, this sort

(01:00:43):
of came out of nowhere. A it did.

Speaker 5 (01:00:46):
And the thing that was so fascinating about it not
just that cost Jack there was so much lower than
what these US firms have spent on AI. It's that
they've managed to.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Do it with old hardware basically right.

Speaker 5 (01:00:58):
So one of the big things here was that the
US had basically put a ban on in vidious chips
going over to China to be used for AI. They
wanted to make sure that the US was best positioned
for this you know AI revolution or still will be
the best position for this revolution. And so China was
really forced to make do with what they.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Had and make do did they?

Speaker 5 (01:01:24):
Because it's just like that's the piece of this that
I think stunned people. And that's the reason that the
stock market just took an absolute beating. Yeah, I mean
in videos shares fell of its market cap in a
day because of this new this new model.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
It did make it a few bit of a back, right, So,
I mean I think it was that that as a company,
I think and Nvidia lost more value than any other
company in the history of American cheer markets. Well, you know,
in that in that twenty four hour period they had
made a bit of it bad. It was a year.
It was a massive shock.

Speaker 5 (01:02:04):
I'm just quickly looking as you typed. I mean it's
still it is still down on where it started the week, Yes, yes,
but has certainly like.

Speaker 15 (01:02:13):
Yeah, I mean, it just moved.

Speaker 5 (01:02:15):
I think it was so scary. Is it just moved
the whole market, right, because there were all those flow
on effects, because I think for the first time, the
analysts have really started to think maybe this like maybe
what we're doing isn't necessarily maybe the hype isn't there,
or maybe what we've got isn't necessarily the best. And
it just just the ricochet where people were just really

(01:02:37):
questioning the value of this company. Now that is the
most valuable company I think in the world at.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Least, was Yeah, it's going to be amazing, amazing to
see how they kind of tech companies in the US
respond as well. Now, let's talk robotaxis, because more robotaxis
are headed to the streets. There are a few cities
in the US where have become kind of a common
thing to see. You know, when I was when I
was in Arizona a few months ago, you know, there
were these kind of robotaxes every week obviously instead of

(01:03:06):
and value you see them all the time. But now
Tesla is starting a robotaxi service in Austin, Texas.

Speaker 5 (01:03:13):
Austin, Texas right by their big HQ. Yeah, and that
I mean, Elon says it's going to be in June.
So let's wait and see if that actually happens. I've
been talking about this fully autonomous driving for quite some time,
and that's what this robo taxi service will be. There'll
be no human driver behind the wheel.

Speaker 10 (01:03:29):
It just turns up.

Speaker 5 (01:03:30):
And how it's different from those other services like the
ones you saw in Phoenix and SF like might have
seen them under the name Weimo. They've got all these
kind of instruments on and sort of around the car.
They do like light our radar technology, and there's like
things that spin and it looks very kind of sophisticated
and you know future, Yeah, something from the future. But

(01:03:53):
the Tesla from what we know, is just going to
be using it's standard Tesla cameras that they've already been using,
which is a really big step forward if that can
actually go the distance. Yeah, because that technology is significantly cheaper,
doesn't rely on expensive hardware. It's largely software based. It's
just literally using cameras. And they've been testing out their

(01:04:16):
full drivers function in San Francisco with safety drivers behind
the wheel. And now it seems that and this is
the thing, it seems that they will be just standard Teslas.
Elan's talked about something interesting over the years he's had
to stream of these robotaxis where you could buy your
own Tesla and then contribute it back when you're not
using it to the Tesla network. So one would assume

(01:04:39):
that the Robotaxi service will be a step in that
direction and they will just be standard Tesla's. But another
fun thing about the Tesla Jack and it's self driving.
Did you know at the Tesla factory when a car
is born, effectively, when it is completed, it drives itself
to the loading dug.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
Cute?

Speaker 2 (01:05:00):
So I mean that is cool. I suppose that can
they just program it right? You would hope that for
all of the self driving technology that have enough confidence
in the technology that the can drive through the factory floor.

Speaker 5 (01:05:12):
Yeah, yeah, drives it drives it to the loading dock
and gets gets put on a well, I don't know,
I guess in a ship or yeah, truck or something
and off it goes.

Speaker 20 (01:05:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
Hey, were you were you a SIMS fan when you
were a kid? Twenty five years since the SIMS were invented,
I was of saying, sorry to interrupt you, I was
a SIMS fan. This is it's a computer game right now.
The SIMS were a computer game where you would sort
of simulate a life and you you'd run, you'd basically
run these people and run their lives and build a

(01:05:44):
house and they go to jobs. Yeah, whole families. And
it was always weird because it was the first game
where you just it wasn't even really a major purpose.
It was just sort of you were just building someone
else's life and.

Speaker 5 (01:05:56):
You were trying to make money?

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Were you Maybe you were? I wasn't nearly Oh yes,
right yeah, yeah. Anyway, it's back, it's back.

Speaker 5 (01:06:07):
It's it's been twenty five years, and to celebrate that,
they are re releasing SIMS and SIMS too, which I
just think is kind of It's so fun. I mean
that game, you see, that was a massive step forward
when it was released. I remember thinking the graphics were
just incredible. You know, you had the full design control
of designing your house. They had all these expansion packs,

(01:06:29):
do you remember those? Were you seend them on vacations
and dates and all sorts of things, and it was
sort of like the you know, you got your parents
to buy you the SIMS and then you had to
go and you know, trick them into seeing if they
could buy you the expansion pack to do more and more.

Speaker 18 (01:06:43):
Well, yeah, it's back.

Speaker 5 (01:06:44):
If you own Windows ten or Windows eleven. You can
download it from Electronic Arts or Steam which has which
has lots and lots of games and things. No love
for Matthews as yet though, because I'm just full of
fun facts today. Did you know that there's a Sims
movie in the works?

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Ah? I had no idea, right, Okay.

Speaker 18 (01:07:00):
So I think I think kind of like the Barbie hype.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
Just yeah, mate, So not as money and ol ja Paul,
there's money in nostalgia millennials.

Speaker 5 (01:07:11):
I still remember the cheat code in terms to type
in to get unlimited money.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Oh, what was it?

Speaker 5 (01:07:16):
Was? Rosebud. You typed in Rosebud, Rosebud Rose. I must
have typed in Rosebud.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
I don't know how many rose bud? Ah?

Speaker 19 (01:07:25):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Am I right in thinking that that is the that's
from Citizen Kane? Isn't it that? I don't know it's
a Citizen Kane. Ah, Paul, You see you're thinking yourself
as a as a as a storied and cultural man. Yes,
for goodness sake, I'm not going to give it away.
You've got to watch Citizen Kane. Are you serious even

(01:07:50):
problem you haven't seen, Citizen Kane.

Speaker 5 (01:07:52):
I probably have.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
I just for goodness problem, I have get back to
your screens for goodness. Okay, all right, hey, thanks, thanks
so much for great did yet our textbit Paul Steinhouse,
The school is back. If it's not already back, it's
back this week. That means, of course, stationary is got
to be sorted. That means lunchboxes, that backpacks has to
be sorted. It also means, gulp, a return of head lice.

(01:08:15):
Doctor Brian Betty's with us in a couple of minutes
with his advice on avoiding head lice if you can
seventeen to eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
No better way to kick off your weekend than with
Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Day and vpw it on
co dot z for high quality supplements used talks eNB.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
First of February means school is back, which means, unfortunately
for some families, knits are back as well. It's one
of those really common but incredibly frustrating medical conditions, and
doctor Brian Betty is with us this morning with his
advice on how to treat it and hopefully how to
avoid it as well. Morenedner Brian I'm morning Jack.

Speaker 7 (01:08:52):
Nice to be here again.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Yeah, nice to be speaking with you. Happy New Year. Yeah,
what are headlights? And who gets them?

Speaker 8 (01:09:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:09:00):
Look the tiny little insects that actually live on the scalp.
And they live on the scalp because they actually live
off blood. They suck blood out of the scalp. So
these tiny little insects, and what they do is they
lay eggs on strands of hair. So they lay these
little eggs that over about a week start to hatch
and you get more of these little little insects in

(01:09:22):
the scalp, living off off off the scalp. And yeah,
they cause these problems. They do not carry disease. So
one of the misconceptions about them is, oh, my kid's
got you know, sort of set of head lies. Gosh,
it's poor hygiene, that's what's caused it. That is not
the case. Head lice cannot live outside of the scalp.
They actually jump from from head to head basically, So

(01:09:46):
think of kids in schools are often playing around rubbagene.
They're there there, their scalps touch and if one child
has head lice, they often jump to the other child
and you start to get a spread occurring so nothing
to do whatsoever with hygiene. Anyone can get head lice.

Speaker 2 (01:10:04):
Yeah, okay, and how do you know that some.

Speaker 7 (01:10:07):
Yeah, so look the thing you need to look out for,
and often the first sign that happens it's intensely itching.
So what you'll notice is your child starting to scratch
at their head. Now, if they don't do that normally,
you'd need to start to think, well, gosh, is this
head lice. So the scratching can cause little scort saws
on the scalp. You can get these little red areas

(01:10:28):
on the scalp that you start to notice. But if
you look closely at the base of the hair, you'll
often see the little headlights, like little insects of the
little legs. Or the other giveaway is you find these
little little what looked like grains of sand stuck to
the strands of hair, and those are the eggs that
they've laid. And typically you'll find those behind the ears

(01:10:50):
or around the back of the neck. And it's very
very distinctive when you see them, and that's a really
really core indicator that you know, knits, cooties or headlights
is part of the issue.

Speaker 2 (01:11:00):
Yeah, what do you do about them?

Speaker 7 (01:11:02):
Look, there's really two things and you've got to separate
out the two problems. One you've got to kill the
live adult insects because if you don't, they keep laying eggs.
So that's really really important. So to do that, we
use a shampoo dimethic comb. You use it twice a week,
once then seven days later because they tend to hatch
over a seven day period. Now, the important thing about

(01:11:23):
dimethic cone, it is not an insecticide. What it actually
does is just suffocate the little life, so it's very
safe to use with your child. So number one, you've
got to kill the insects, so that's really really important.
But you've got to get rid of the eggs because
if you don't, they will continue to hatch and continue
to cause a problem. Now, to get rid of the eggs,
you've got to use what's called a knit comb. You

(01:11:45):
often get those from the chemist, very fine little metal combs,
and you wet comb the hair. So what you do
is put in some conditioner, cheap conditioner, anything will do,
keep their hair wet and then start to comb out
the hair. Now, the the thing about that is you've
got to be really pedantic about it and you've got
to do it every day for about one to two

(01:12:06):
weeks because you've got to get rid of all those
little little eggs that are stuck to the histrands of here.
And so you keep doing it till you see no
more eggs coming out. So look, yeah, bit of a mission,
but you've got to do those two things are two
separate issues, and you've got to approach it that way.

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
Yeah, it's one of those things too, right, If one
child in the family has it, you've got to check everyone.

Speaker 7 (01:12:27):
You absolutely have to. So you have to assume that
if one child's got it, it may have jumped to
the other. So generally we recommend that if we're treating
one child, then the other children in the family actually
or all the other members of the family treat with
this shampoo aka twice a week as well, just to
make sure there's no live ones that have jumped to
the other child. Really important to tell your school if

(01:12:51):
there's an outbreak, so they can warn other parents to
look out for it, because again that tends to spread
through schools. You tend to get outbreaks very difficult to
prevent because these live little bugs just jump from one
to the other and kids are always playing around together.
And look, one thing I do need to say is
sometimes you know old wives tale that you can use
kerosene or fly spray or anything like that, just don't.

(01:13:14):
It's dangerous not to do it. Just just just go
with the shampoo which suffocates them. And pedantic knit combing
the way to go.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
If you were here, or your scalp is itching right now,
don't worry. You don't have knits. That's just what happens
when you have these comments inevitable, right and mom start
doing it, and I'm like.

Speaker 21 (01:13:35):
The thousands people out there stretching exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
Okay, I've got one really disgusting tip. This is really disgusting.
So I'm just wondering, if you haven't had your breakfast
just yet, just take a deep intake of breath. So,
being one of four, when we were kids and there
would be knit outbreaks in the tame household, that was
usually a bit of a mission getting everyone sorted. And
Dad used to do the wet combing, and we'd get
the big knits out with the wet comb, you know,

(01:14:02):
and he put them down on the table and you
have a you'd have a knit there and My job
was use the back of a dessert spoon to crush them,
crush them, and that's how you know. They did.

Speaker 7 (01:14:14):
Very satisfying thing to do, though, Jack.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Very satisfying, very effective, extremely disgusting. So my apologies. Hey,
thank you so much. Brian really appreciate that the advice,
and we'll make sure it's available online as well. Right now,
it's nine minutes to eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
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Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Climb passes our man in the garden this morning, counter route.

Speaker 18 (01:14:39):
Thank you, Jack. I just want to take on about
your first child being born at the time when you're busy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
Oh yes, yeah, because my.

Speaker 18 (01:14:48):
Son here in New Zealand was born in nineteen eighty
seven on the afternoon after I did an interview, my
very first interview on new storgs. He'd be with a
guy called Lacon Smith.

Speaker 10 (01:14:59):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
Is that right?

Speaker 18 (01:15:02):
That was before he became an one of those nonsense
haters of of climate change. Anyway, it was hilarious, so
I left, I left the studio, went to the hospital
and there was Tristan Wow being born. Yeah, so that
you can fit it in.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
Yeah, yeah, well yes, no, yeah, trust me as much
as I love my work that that will be the
priority whenever it does happen. So the phone is very
much notifications are on at the moment, and my wife
can be sure that I won't be screening her calls
anytime soon, So that's good. It's just so yeah. Anyway,
we're turning our attention from here lights and it's two

(01:15:42):
mites in the garden to mighty mites in the garden
this morning. We're really doing our very best to make
sure that no one is listening to the show.

Speaker 18 (01:15:50):
I will always get hessels from people, say, what did
you talk about follicorn mice for? Why did you write
that every person has eye lashes with foll mid Oh yeah,
it's really I do this trick with kids. They love
it though, anyway. But the my group is is a
but this is the point that my group is a
really weird group. And we've got in this case spider mites.
So I discovered them a couple of weeks ago and

(01:16:12):
I had to spray them this done. They are absolutely
because it's warm and dry. These are the pest you've
got to be careful with in glasshouses and tunnel houses,
but also outside in your garden beans and things like that,
and in our case in frenchy pany. So yeah, what
does it look like. Well, it's all in the stuff online.

(01:16:33):
But I'll tell you what. If it looks like an
incredibly dense website with the tiniest millions of creatures walking
through that website, it's probably those spotted spidermites. So what
you do, Yeah, well, there's not much you can do
about from basically spraying depends on what you've got the

(01:16:54):
things on. If it's something like tomatoes, or if it's
something like edibles, you can't use any made nasty chemicals,
of course, But what you can use is mean oil,
and that's what I would recommend. Other side of the leaves,
top side of the leaves, left and right side of
the leaves, the actual web itself. And if you do

(01:17:17):
that two, three, four times five days apart, you can
get on top of it. I just mentioned it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
Yeah, very good, Okay, Hey, thank you. You'll be pleased
to know that. I think our garden has set an
all time record for the number of passion vine hoppers
and fluffy bones. I just, I mean, just while we're
speaking of insect control, Oh my goodness. Yeah, unbelievable the summer, Rude, unbelievable.
How many I've got? So maybe I can hit you

(01:17:45):
up again about that sometime soon. I know you've always
got tips on trying to control them. Thank you very much, sir,
Rude climb past in the garden and photos of those
incredible intricate webs are up on the News Talks he'd
be website so for everything from our show, News Talks,
hedb dot co dot mded Forward, slash Jack before twelve o'clock,
new music from Young Franco, a book from Elis Phenie.
I've got to got to recommend. News is next though

(01:18:07):
it's almost eleven o'clock is Saturday morning. I'm Jack Tam
and this is news Talks. He'd be.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
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Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
Ah to Mondy here, good morning. If you're just sending
on the radio, I'm Jack Tame with you on News Talks.
He'd be this Saturday through the midday. Things are going
from bad to worse for anyone concerned about the Six
Nations and Warren Gatland's Wales team. They've just conceded another try,
so they're now down forty three to Nils against France

(01:19:07):
with a couple of minutes left in that game. But yeah,
things aren't looking great. Not voting terribly well for Warren
Gatland at the moment. So I went to David Sadaris
last night. If you don't know David Sadaris, he is,
I mean, where have you been? What do you read?
He is just it's kind of hard to describe him.
He's he's an irreverent American slash British but American writer,

(01:19:32):
radio contributor, all round humorist. He's just he's he's an
extraordinary writer, like a New York Times bestseller however many
gazillion times over. And he writes these personal essays that
are kind of irreverent, observational, little vignettes on life. And

(01:19:53):
there's something that is just brilliantly funny about David sadaras.
So I was really really excited to go and see
him last night Auklands town Hall. And he was reading
some of his work and kind of reading some of
his diary entries. But this really interesting the thing happened
when I was there. He was talking a little bit
about his process. And anyone who knows David Sadaris knows
that his stories sort of they come across as effortlessly easy.

(01:20:18):
They're just like the stories that you would tell around
at dinner table, or you would talk about your weekend
away or something like that. And anyway, he was talking
about his process, and he explained that when he's touring
the world and he's reading his pieces, often what he
does is he goes and he reads a piece that
he's written, and he considers the audience reaction. He listens
to the audience laughter, and then as soon as he's

(01:20:40):
finished performing, and as soon as he's finished all of
his book signings and things, he goes back to his
hotel room and he writes the piece again, or rewrites
the piece again, or edits the piece again. And he
said that sometimes he'll do it twenty times. So he'll
read the same piece, and as he's reading it to
an audience, he'll wait for their reactions and he'll write

(01:21:01):
little notes on his papers, and they'll go back to
his hotel room and he'll edit it. Heel word here,
or have changed the structure of a sentence there, and
the thing that I just found really amazing about that
is when you read his stories, you get no sense
that it's been agonized over. You get no sense that
it's something that has been like excruciatingly difficult. But it's

(01:21:23):
one of those things that shows you kind of genius
takes work like he's really had to, He's really had
to work at his craft to shape the stories into
the brilliant little vignettes and essays that they are. So yeah,
it was an amazing evening. And you know, he was
a full crowd at the Auckland Town Hall last night,
which comes as no great surprise but a real privilege

(01:21:44):
to be there for David Sedaris. And I love it
when you you know, you have a writer like that
or an artist that you love, and you get a
bit of an insight into their creative process and it
surprises you and you realize that, actually, you know, he's
almost the sort of writer you could think, well, well
I could write a story like that, How hard can
it really be? And then you realize, actually, it's, yeah,

(01:22:05):
it's genius, that's how hard it is. Anyway, a real
pleasure to be there tonight. If you are looking for
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Though it is eleven minutes past eleven, Jack tea time

(01:22:26):
to catch up with kind of course, psychologist Doogle Sutherland
from Umbrella Wellbeing more than a Doogle cure.

Speaker 15 (01:22:32):
Jack, Hey, jealous of you going to see David Sedaris
last night. That would have been a great experience.

Speaker 6 (01:22:39):
I love I love as I love his box.

Speaker 15 (01:22:41):
Yeah, hilariously funny, aren't.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
They They're so funny. They're so funny and so but
he does it. He's I reckon he's the all time
master of the tangent. That's what I reckon he is.
You know, he like he starts out a story on
one subject, goes off on a wild tangent, and the
tangent might last five thousand words, and then brings it
back round again at the end, and it's just it's

(01:23:04):
just brilliantly clever. Yeah, he's a credibly cly man.

Speaker 15 (01:23:07):
I'm amazed about how one person can have so many
hilarious things that have happened their lives.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
It was a really good thing. Last night, someone asked him,
because he took questions from the audience, someone said to him,
do you think that you have an interesting life, like
an abnormally interesting life, or do you think that your
life is And he said, no, no, it's just that
I look for the kind of the funny. You know,
He's like an observational comedian. He looks for the funny
things in everyday life and is able to kind of

(01:23:33):
shake them in a way that is really relatable but
also just so funny. Yeah, yeah, but love Sorry.

Speaker 15 (01:23:41):
Apparently he loves people telling him dirty jokes when they're
when they're lining up for their books signed. If you
can tell him the worst terrible joke you can you
can think.

Speaker 3 (01:23:49):
Of, he loves it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
Well, he actually shared some of those last night, so
I won't be repeating them on air right now. No, no, exactly. Yeah, yeah,
but it was that funny thing, you know, because when
I read his books, I'm always like, oh, it just
seems so it's so easy, so the story that the
storytelling is so relaxed, and yet it's actually can you
know how ever many iterations to get each piece into

(01:24:10):
that form, which I just I think it's Yeah, I
think it's wonderful. Hey, anyway, you have spired a very
interesting survey. It's come across your desk, looking at a
kind of global mental health crisis and how it's impacting workplaces.
Because the thing is, we've talked about wellbeing in the
workplace for many years now, but even though for many
people last year was an especially stressful year, certainly when

(01:24:34):
it comes to kind of economic conditions, a lot of
workplaces have been pulling back a bit on wellbeing measures.

Speaker 21 (01:24:41):
A yeah, they have.

Speaker 15 (01:24:45):
It's ironic in a way, isn't it, Because I think
everybody kind of universally acknowledges that, you know, we want
to refund on twenty twenty four and don't want to
go through that again. And it was terrible for you know,
people losing their jobs or worrying about losing their jobs.
And yet at the same time, lots of organizations and
an effort to save money sorts, oh, we'll cut back
on the what can we do with out what are

(01:25:06):
the what do we see as the as the nice
nice to hand, And so they cut.

Speaker 4 (01:25:11):
Back on.

Speaker 15 (01:25:14):
And I'm veering away from using the term well being
nowadays because I think it's becoming a bit tainted. But
if you think about it, they're veering away from pushing
away a little bit from providing support for people's mental health.
I think, if we can put it that bluntly, and
that's and I think that's exactly the opposite thing that

(01:25:35):
they should be doing, which links back into that survey
that I that I spied. It came out just before Christmas,
so one of those ones that you know, I kind
of read it and went, oh, I tuck that away
and come back to it.

Speaker 6 (01:25:46):
But it was it was from.

Speaker 15 (01:25:48):
Deloitte's in the UK, and they looked at they particularly
looking at the financial sector, and they found that, you know,
high rates of burnout in the financial sector. And they
priced that at a cost of about ten thousand dollars
per person per year. And you think about that in
terms of, you know, if we're thinking about productivity, you know,

(01:26:10):
we're thinking about making sure that we are really wanting
to get our economy growing, then you think about the
cost of ten thousand dollars per person per year across
our economy. It's staggering. Really, I think it has a
real effect on how much we produced as a country.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
Well, this is the thing. It's easy from an employer's perspective,
right to think, well, you know, support for mental health
and stuff is a nice to have, but actually, if
your work, like you know, so many businesses say that
people is our number one is a number one asset, right,
but if your people are not in a good place,
it ends up costing the business. It effects a business's bottom.

Speaker 15 (01:26:51):
Line absolutely if you think about some of those if
you delve into some of those symptoms of burnout, things
like you know, the core symptoms of burnout are exhaustion,
making mistakes at work, and poorer work performance, then it's just,
you know, it's obvious how that would have an impact

(01:27:13):
on productivity. And that's you know that I'm talking sort of.
I guess that's particularly around you know, white collar workers,
to coin a horrible term, but people who are in
you know, stereotopically blue blue collar jobs. If you're exhausted
and tired and not concentrating, you know, a slip up
there and that through your mental well being, a slip

(01:27:36):
up there could have quite catastrophic consequences for you or
people around you. You know, you inadvertently put your hand
in the mincing machine because you're a bit tired and distracted,
and so it's it's you know, there's some real costs there.
I think that that if only we sort of if
we took off the label of well being and just
looked at it in terms of human performance, then maybe

(01:27:59):
that's that maybe people go, oh, actually, maybe we should
be investing in this if if we really think people
are our number one, you know, assets, next, we want
to make sure that asset is finally tuned and working
just as well as it really can be, if we
really want to get our productivity levels up.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
Yeah, yeah too, right, So what would be your advice
the into businesses and employers who maybe have been pulling
back a little bit on some of the mental health
and even though you hate the term well being.

Speaker 15 (01:28:28):
Support, yeah, look, I think it is. Firstly, there's that
I think, change, change how you think about it, and
you know, be persuaded by the evidence. There's there's truckloads
of evidence now that that. In fact, I think world
health organizations said that globally, twelve billion working days a

(01:28:50):
year are lost due to depression and anxiety. And that's
that's a cost of well over a trillion dollars. Now
that's globally. But you if you stop thinking about it
as well being and thinking about it as mental health
or human performance however best you want to think about it,
but think about it through the lens of well sorry,

(01:29:11):
through the lens of productivity. I think that might quite
dramatically change what you do and for people and businesses,
for staff. It may be that just in this economic time,
you have to adopt a bit of a pragmatic approach
and maybe you sort of turn down the volume on
the term well being and talk about mental health and

(01:29:34):
how well you can perform if you are at your peak,
and that may have perhaps more purchase when you are
asking for things from your employer. And I think to
it at a meta level. You know that I know
the government's really keen to get you know New Zealand.
You know, productivity up this year and this is going

(01:29:54):
to be the year when we really have an economic turnaround.
And I think they would do really well to look
at these as well and think, actually, what can we
do to support the people of New Zealand. Two hance
their mental performance and hunts their mental health atwork because
we know that that's probably going to be a key
to getting the economy going again. So I think it

(01:30:16):
can happen both at an individual level and an organizational level,
and then at a political national level as well.

Speaker 2 (01:30:23):
Very good. Thank you, dougle appreciate your time. As per
That is Google Sutherland. He's a clinical psychologist with Umbrella
Well Being. Before midday, we're going to listen to some
new music from Young Franco. Young Franco is a Brisbane
based DJ who kind of mixes up old DISCOI tracks
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(01:30:44):
kind of summary dancy light music, So looking forward to
playing some of that next up. Our travel correspondents in
for the Saturday morning. Right now, it's nineteen past eleven.
You're with Jack Taime on newstalk ZEDB.

Speaker 3 (01:30:55):
Travel with Windy Woo Tours Where the world is yours
for now?

Speaker 2 (01:30:59):
Now, Travel correspondent Mike Yardley is taking us for a
few walks and wings and Marlvra this morning Gilder, Jack,
what is the best way would you say to start
the day? Right at the top of the south there
and Pickton.

Speaker 21 (01:31:14):
Well, as you know, Jack Pickton is ringked with some
salivating trails. I reckon a really good head clearer to
start the day as the Bob's Bay Track. So if
you're in Pickton, head over that coat Hangar Bridge by
the Marina, around to Shelley Beach and then onto Bob's Bay.
It there is such a short and sweet hillside stroll
on the harbor edge beast of all. You've got such

(01:31:35):
a goodvantage point. Watch the fairies pulling in out of
pict In typically not on auto.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
Pilot, yes, typically not, hopefully not. I think I think
we can be cautiously optimistic that they've learned from mistakes
last year. Yeah, so did you go up Snout Track?

Speaker 21 (01:31:54):
Yes? I did, Jack, And obviously all the locals will
tell visitors you've got to do Snout Track. And the
full walk all ride is about twelve kilometers. But if
the Marquis use of Queen Charlotte Sound all the way
to the head of the peninsula, that's what makes the
walk the gift that keeps on giving its view with demo.

(01:32:17):
And if you do want to cheat, you can just
drive through a lot of it to Victoria Domain up
to the Queen Charlotte viewpoint. Car park which overlooks to
Secai Bay and Karaka Bay, which is where the fairy
grounded last year. In fact, I think from that car
park viewpoint is probably where your auntie famously did her

(01:32:41):
live on the scene radio cross last year.

Speaker 2 (01:32:43):
Yeah, that's right, they've got the call up, got the
call up. Yeah, that's I think that's exactly where it was.

Speaker 21 (01:32:50):
Yes, So from that, from that carpark deck, I was
just going to say, if you do want to do
a short walk from the car park, it's just forty
minutes walking time to the very tip of the peninsula
to the snout and then the other really cool walk
also including Victoria Domain as the Pectm to wayca wad Trek,
which is actually a doddle of a walk. Most of

(01:33:12):
it is flat, fabulously through bush so you get a
lot of birds on zipping you all the way to
the serene sites of Waikawa Bay.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
So when you feel pekish and pickton, yeah we issue did.

Speaker 21 (01:33:25):
Well, I reckon toast your lords. It's hard to beat.
So this shop is right on the waterfront across from
the marina and people just go gager over the a
gourmet soudo toasted semis I reckon. The Ivan is perhaps
the best of the lot. The ivan is like a
mashup of astrami, saur kraut and pickle. It is just

(01:33:49):
so good, such a great way to fill your walk.
And if you are looking for something a bit more
substantial aid from the day, my suggestion would be Cortado,
very Mediterranean based menu, lots of tapers, lots of small plates,
things like Spanish meat, bulls Land to starter and Cortato.
Jack is owned by a Mark and Joe Yardley, so

(01:34:11):
it's got to be good.

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
Right, Yeah, Yeah, you can trust that it's not related.

Speaker 6 (01:34:15):
I have to have to point.

Speaker 2 (01:34:17):
Out, Hey, it's all right, Andie Bob's already had a
shout out.

Speaker 21 (01:34:22):
That's the nepotism.

Speaker 12 (01:34:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:34:23):
If you want to combine some really good work walks
with endangered bird life on a Queen Charlotte cruise, where
would you say as good?

Speaker 21 (01:34:32):
Yeah? If burning is your bag, I would suggest do
the half day jaunt to Motawada Island. I only recently
went to Mottawara for the first time recently with Beach
Comba Cruises. So beach Coma do these fantastic calf day
excursions until about the end of April is the season

(01:34:52):
and it's such a thriving island century. So you've got
this amazing one way track around the hell and the
reason it's so good is because you get the most
incredible lookout points like, for example, the cop straight lockout.
Oh yeah, cracking perch across to the North Island in
cox Strait. But yeah, it's all about the birds, to

(01:35:14):
be honest. Jeck and Motuara has been predator free for
over thirty years. So over the course of a couple
of hours I encountered gray warblers, the South Island saddleback,
the kakaiki, which of course is one of our great
parakeets in the South Island Robin. Also the Marlborough green gecko,
which talk about green, it's more like vivid emerald. The

(01:35:38):
Marlboro cream gecko. It looks like it's been sort of
dipped in a de luxe color chart. It's just amazing.
So yeah, alongside the geckos, you will be twitching on overdrive.

Speaker 2 (01:35:49):
Ah. How special Motuara is close to ship Cove.

Speaker 21 (01:35:53):
Isn't it It is, so this is another little sort
of special add on to the excursion. You get a
shortly layover at Chip Cove and I just love ship Cove,
but it's just stineped in history. You can feel the
history at chip Cove because I mean James Cork dropped
anchor the on five separate ocations. He loved to ship Cove.
Some of the earliest sustained contacts between Europeans and Maori

(01:36:17):
occurred at chip Cove and it was harmonious. The Coocker
Monument so cool because it's got one of the original
canons from the Endeavor, and then alongside that that gorgeous
carved for Fenowa, which vividly illustrates the wonderful legend of
Coupe and the giant octopus he chased in these waters.
So yeah, I just think ship Cover is one of

(01:36:38):
the heart stealing destinations in New Zealand. It's also, of
course the start of the Queen Charlotte track if you
wanted a walking and talking with the birds.

Speaker 2 (01:36:47):
Yeah, And from the beautiful peace and serenity within the
New Zealand Bush to some big V eight engines taken
to the skies or the twelve in some cases, the
big air show is returning to mail to Blenham, isn't it.

Speaker 21 (01:37:03):
That's right? Yeah, I thought we should mention this because
it's not that far away Easter weekend the Classic Fighters
air Show, and there's going to be over one hundred
aircraft taking part. Vintage planes fight at aircraft from both
world Wars, lots of jet age specimens, A lot of
them are locally based at Omaka Aviation Heritage Center, but

(01:37:23):
also there are dozens coming from across New Zealand and internationally.
I got a sneak peak jack at some of the
props in the displays that have been worked on which
will form part of the spectacles at the air show.
So it's quite a big production they put on and
they are pulling out all the stops. So yeah, if
that sounds like a bit of you, I would strongly

(01:37:44):
suggest you booked your tickets, but perhaps more importantly your
accommodation Toronto ahead of Easter in Blenham.

Speaker 2 (01:37:52):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, great advice. Hey, Mike, given was what November?
I think you had the Christmas decorations up at your place.
We know you love, we know you love the festivities
over the Christmas period, but given us now February third,
I just needed to triple check you have taken your
Christmas decorations down, haven't you.

Speaker 21 (01:38:11):
I got a bit of a shock when I looked
at the gallon of the bloke. I have a very
big weekend task. You hit them.

Speaker 2 (01:38:18):
By We're gonna if you. I'm going to check in
this time next week. Don't make us stage an intervention,
will you. I mean we're almost getting We're we're not
too far off the point where just to leave them
up in time for next Christmas.

Speaker 21 (01:38:31):
Mike, I can just notice there are some white jackets
down at the front gate. Jack, Yes, that could be
the reason.

Speaker 3 (01:38:39):
Help.

Speaker 2 (01:38:41):
I'm good luck with that. Thank you so much. And
we'll put all of your tips for traveling through Marlborough,
especially ahead of the wonderful war Birds Festival over Easter
weekend up on the News Talk we se'd b website
before midday new music from Young Franco. We've got your
book picks too. Right now it is eleven thirty.

Speaker 3 (01:39:02):
Getting your weekends started.

Speaker 1 (01:39:04):
It's Saturday Morning with Jack team on News Talks B.

Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
New st Vit you with Jack Tame Jason Pine isn't
for weekend sport this afternoon ahead of Auckland FC's match
five o'clock this evening. What used to be called Mount
Smart and I can never remember the new name, Go Media,
Go Media. Stadium Party's going to be calling that game
as well. Of course. I'm good to see you sir,
Good to see you Jack. Yeah, you've got a big
interview speaking of Auckland FC this afternoon.

Speaker 22 (01:39:46):
Yeah, head coach Steve Corrick is going to pop in
on his way to the game presumably. I'm not sure
what his game day routine is. They tend to get
there a couple of hours before kickoff, so five o'clock.
That's three o'clock, so yeah, I think he can probably
fit us in around mid day, he says. He says
he will, so we'll take his word. Yeah, Ken to
also just read the pulse of Auckland FC fans and
also just then total stuff I'm hearing around how people

(01:40:09):
are just jumping on board with this team. It's become,
you know, especially with kids, something that is cool to
do to go along and watch Auckland FC play. So yeah,
looking forward to to chatting to Steve Coricker after midday, yeah,
and getting out there to go media and watching them
take on MacArthur this afternoon.

Speaker 2 (01:40:24):
It's so good. I mean, I you know, I take
our boy along and he we've got tickets for every
game of the season and he just absolutely fizzles over it.
The family kind of atmosphere they've built there is just
superb and you know, when you've got the two Kiwi
teams competing as they are, it's just Yeah, it's a
really exciting time for New Zealand football.

Speaker 22 (01:40:41):
I think, Yeah, we've got the Derby in three weeks
as well, Jack the third yes of the third edition
of the Derby. Auckland FC won the first two of course,
but yeah, there's been a bit of breathing space between
that magnificent game in early December and now. So yeah,
in three weeks time, I get the feeling we're heading
for another sal out at a go media for that one.

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
Tell you what Warren Gatton is having a rough time
of things at the moment.

Speaker 22 (01:41:02):
Isn't he forty three nil? I don't know what is worse,
upping forty three points or not scoring any Yeah, in
the game of rugby, nila is such an uncommon thing
in rugby. I mean, you find a way to score
a try or kick some points or something. But even
after one game of the Six Nations he already I
mean imagine going out to face the media after that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:23):
It's pretty tough. I mean even before the game, this
is the Wales have just gone down to France. Even
before the game there were people questioning his coaching future, right,
but a performance like that, you'd have to say, my goodness,
the pressure is really tripled if anything. Yeah, yeah, I
was on the show this afternoon.

Speaker 22 (01:41:39):
Well apart from Steve Carriker after mid day, Dame Sophie
Pasco with us. Yeah, I mean, what a what a champion.
She's been officially retiring this week. She's going to join
us after one o'clock. We've also got Rob Penny on
the show. The Crusaders, in fact, all six New Zealand
based Super Rugby teams having preseason matches. I'm not sure
what you can take from them when they are thirty
and forty man squad. Yes, but I think you know

(01:42:02):
more so with Rob Penny. Came to chat to him
about what he learned last year and how he plans
to turn things around this year. He's on the show.
But a cricket for you as well, and other bits
and pieces too. I'm sure we'll find room for whatever
pops its head up.

Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
Very good, looking forward to it. Thank yous sir, enjoy
the show and the game. This afternoon, Jason Pine with
us for weekends Sports. Steve Coriker, the aukand DEFC head
coach with us right after the midday news. Before midday,
We've got that new music from Young Franco. And I've
got this book from Alice Feenie. I'm going to tell
you about next.

Speaker 3 (01:42:31):
No better way to kick off your weekend than with Jack.

Speaker 1 (01:42:34):
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Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
Alice Feeney, New York Times bestselling author However Many Times Over,
is back with a brand new book. It's called Beautiful Ugly,
and our book reviewer Katherine Rains has been reading it
and is with us this morning. Counter Catherine, Good morning, check.
So tell us about Beautiful Ugly.

Speaker 23 (01:42:57):
So this is you open with this struggling author, a
guy called Grady Green, and he's talking about his wife's disappearance,
which happened over a year year ago. And a year
ago while she was on the phone to him, she
saw a woman lying on the side of the road
and she got out to help her. And she hasn't
been seen since, and her car was found abandoned at
the roadside, and he's really tortured by what happened to her.

(01:43:20):
He can't sleep, he can't write, and then out of
the blue, his agent offers him an opportunity to live
in this remote writing cabin in on this very strange
little Scottish island, and this cabin was who an old
deceased author had lived there, and he kind of seems
thinks it's kind of worth it if he can rescue
his career and give himself some headspace and think about it.

(01:43:43):
And without giving any of the story away, there's lots
of twists. There's some very eccentric characters, there's dual timelines
and point of views, and some very odd behavior. But
this whole underlying feel of the novel on the island
just sort of adds to the sinister level of foreboding
and you get twisted affter twist, and this tension and

(01:44:03):
suspense is excellent and you honestly keep flapping the pages
because you just need to know what happens next.

Speaker 2 (01:44:08):
Okay, it sounds sounds groping, Yes, it sounds, yeah, sounds fantastic,
it is it is, okay, cool So that's Beautiful Ugly
by Alice Feoene. You've also read A Dangerous Game by
Mandy Robotham.

Speaker 23 (01:44:20):
So this is set in nineteen fifty two and in London,
and it's during the Great Smock where it's estimated about
four thousand people died. So this adds the sort of
level of I don't know, undercover suspense to everything. And
you know, London is still struggling after the end of
the war. And you meet this young war widow. Her
name's Helen Dexter and she's called Dexi most of the time,

(01:44:43):
and she was in the midst of the action during
the war, even putting herself in danger. And now that
the war's over and she's joined the police force, but
she finds herself being given very manual work that pre
war chauvinism is back and force, and she's almost just
the tea lady and she rarely wants to fulfill her
dreams of becoming a detective. And there's this guy, Harry Schroeder,
and he's a police detective in Hamburg and despite being

(01:45:07):
anti nat pretty anti Nazi in Germany, he survived World
War iiO, although his wife and daughter didn't and he's
haunted by this, and he's sent to London on assignment,
and Jex's life really changes when she meets him, because
they both end up being tasked with hunting down a
Nazi war criminal that Harry had studied with. But this
war criminal has had a total face reconstruction and so

(01:45:28):
they now have to prove who he is and who
he was, and so there's secret negotiations and the injustice
of this person who's manipulating the system, and there's this
just really good sequence of events that keeps you really engaged.
It's kind of that almost old school Cat and Mouse
thriller felt into it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:43):
Yeah, brilliant. Okay, that's a Dangerous Game by Mandy Robotham.
That sounds like a bit of me. I reckon that one.
Thanks Catherine, Thanks both those books. A Dangerous Game and
Beautiful Ugly will be up on the Newstalks. He'd be
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and partyish and summary and that is exactly what he's
managed to do on this album, because you'll have that
kind of beachy jazz morockey's voice sounding all amounts of awesome,

(01:47:46):
and then you'll have artists like on the opening track
where it's real you know, the band the Streets or
maybe gorillas like that kind of spoken kind of singing.
It's called wake Up, and it's a real good like
power into the album. It makes me think of the
in between us. Yeah, yeah, which you know there was

(01:48:08):
a time ode, but the real punchy speaking, almost.

Speaker 9 (01:48:12):
Rap kind of style.

Speaker 2 (01:48:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:48:14):
I actually looked the word for that jack for speak singing.

Speaker 2 (01:48:18):
Oh yeah, what is it?

Speaker 9 (01:48:19):
It's sprit guzang.

Speaker 2 (01:48:22):
That's one of those German words. I feel like the
Germans got words for everything, right, don't they ever. They've
got like a word for the feeling when you put
your hand in a in a like a grain of
in a sack of grain. Oh yes, that.

Speaker 24 (01:48:33):
Kind of yeah, yeah, but it sounds exactly like what
it is Frigersang's speaking sing cool, but just put one
on it and then it sounds fairly confident.

Speaker 2 (01:48:43):
I got You can buy like a book of them,
and I feel like confident I got it for my
dad for Christmas one.

Speaker 15 (01:48:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:48:48):
Yeah, that sounds like a dead girl. Yeah, you'll get
it one day.

Speaker 1 (01:48:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:48:52):
And this is great.

Speaker 24 (01:48:53):
So there's that kind of real punchy stuff. It's really
R and B hip hop influenced. There's the electro dance thing,
which I think is what Young Franco was kind of.

Speaker 9 (01:49:02):
Known for anyway on his sets that he.

Speaker 2 (01:49:04):
Does in his shows.

Speaker 24 (01:49:06):
But this has got this real international feel because he
has used the featured artists and their kind of genre
or where they come from to really create this music,
which yeah, again, it just means that right throughout the
album you're never getting anything that's the same and identical,
and a really cool way to lean into those featured artists,

(01:49:26):
a lot of them. It's I think he's getting quite
renowned on the circuit, especially in the UK, where he
can kind of like to stalk someone and know they're
in town and then message them and be like, hey,
would you like to come into the studio for and
put some vocals down or put your kind of version
of production onto the song, And that's kind of a

(01:49:46):
lot of what this album is based on.

Speaker 2 (01:49:48):
It's quite smart, it's.

Speaker 24 (01:49:50):
Really smart, and it's fun, Like there's some real stump
like this as a standout.

Speaker 9 (01:49:54):
It's one of my favorites.

Speaker 24 (01:49:56):
It's got vocals from Grammy nominated Carlow and her vocals
on Man, it's just so commanding and strong, and it's
got like a Mary J.

Speaker 9 (01:50:07):
Blige sort of.

Speaker 24 (01:50:10):
But real sharp at the same time. And I think
that's also his production that comes in underneath it. But yeah,
for me, it was a standout. Then you've got give praise,
Give thanks. That's a big single that's doing quite well
at the moment, and it's real reggae and fused drum
and bass. General Levy is the guy who does the vocals,
and he does that cool reggae vibration riff thing with

(01:50:31):
his voice.

Speaker 9 (01:50:35):
Don't make me to it.

Speaker 10 (01:50:38):
Reggae.

Speaker 24 (01:50:39):
It's this rattling role kind of thing with a trail
a whole lot of vocals and you're like, how are
you breathing and making that noise at the same time.

Speaker 9 (01:50:48):
See, that's going to make you have to go and
listen to it.

Speaker 2 (01:50:50):
Yeah, I am, so you can get what I'm thinking.

Speaker 24 (01:50:52):
It was really good Daydreaming, which.

Speaker 9 (01:50:54):
We're going to play a little bit of.

Speaker 24 (01:50:56):
It's got this disco funk, real sliding bass, but a
strong piano melody in it, and he says it's all
about being lost in the beauty and awe of the world,
which also is kind of like a really good way
of looking at his album.

Speaker 9 (01:51:10):
You sort of get lost in.

Speaker 24 (01:51:11):
The the variations and the quite punchy sort of production
that's behind a lot of these and like I say,
you can go real cruisy, beachy, but then these real standout,
sort of hip hop le tracks. I just think it's
really fun for that, Like I feel really uplifted by it.
I think he's got a really beautiful energy about him.

(01:51:32):
Here's a bit of a throwback, like there's a ninety
nostalgic sing it back.

Speaker 2 (01:51:37):
You can think of that before.

Speaker 24 (01:51:42):
It's such a catchy little gem.

Speaker 9 (01:51:46):
And Don william Yeah, you got it.

Speaker 2 (01:51:48):
That's gonna be.

Speaker 9 (01:51:50):
Yeah, yeah, Daniel Williams voice on that. So it was just.

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
It's all right, you justs that's all right.

Speaker 24 (01:52:01):
It's a it's an album where he's like made connections
and then he's just started to use the is to
help inspire his music. And I feel like it's an
album you can put on lots because of the variation
that you've got in it, and there'll be some that
maybe are your real jam and if you're not really
into R and B or hip hop, you know, that's
okay because there's only one or two tracks and you
go on to the next track, but kind of sit

(01:52:22):
with it for a bit because some of those ones
that are a bit like jarish at first have ended
up being kind of my favorites.

Speaker 2 (01:52:28):
Yeah, yeah, right, because it.

Speaker 24 (01:52:29):
Mixes with those styles and genres, and I'm quite yeah,
it's nice to hear all of it in one big album.

Speaker 2 (01:52:34):
Cool sounds like it sounds cool in every sense. Sounds
like like producer Libby is quite judgmental about music, and
you know, because she's a you know, she's GenZ and
so I just I'll make sure that I have this,
like you know, if I drive past her, I'll make
sure I'm playing with on the stereo creed. But at
the same time, it does sound like I might actually enjoy.

Speaker 24 (01:52:54):
It, and you might sound like you've been th rhythm
and vine yes Litlapalooza or exactly Slender in the Grass,
those kind.

Speaker 2 (01:53:00):
Of exactly exactly. No, it's just so really good. Okay,
I'm listening. I'm looking forward to to listen to ittle
bit more, So, what did you give it?

Speaker 9 (01:53:09):
It's a great weekend album as an eight out.

Speaker 2 (01:53:11):
Of five eight out of five.

Speaker 10 (01:53:13):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:53:14):
Five, that's saying it's definitely, I mean a half.

Speaker 9 (01:53:17):
Eight point five. I'm trying to say eight point five.

Speaker 2 (01:53:19):
Do you know what it's like when people say, oh,
we're giving You know, when you hear athletes and they say, oh,
we gave one hundred and ten percent. Yes, it drives
me nuts when people say that, because I'm like, you can't.
You cannot give more than one hundred percent. You cannot,
you know. New ratings eight out of five, eight out
of five. There you go, very good.

Speaker 9 (01:53:38):
I listen to music, but I can't always speak words
or numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:53:41):
Hey I can't sing. We'll get our limitations. Thank you
so much. A Stelle. I'm eight out of ten for
Young Franco's new album, It's Frankie Baby. We're gonna have
a bit more of a listening to a couple of
minutes right now. It is eight to five. Now, it's
eight to twelve on News Talk CB.

Speaker 1 (01:53:58):
A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday mornings with
Jack Day and vpewre dot co dot Is. It's for
high quality Supplements, News Talk.

Speaker 2 (01:54:07):
It is six minutes to twelve, which means I have
to get a rigg ale on so that Jason Pine
can prepare for weekend sport. He's with us right after
the midday news augand FC coach Steve Corriker is going
to be his interview to kick off the show this
afternoon ahead of their game at five o'clock this evening
at Go Media Stadium. For everything from our show, news talks,
dB dot Colo instead Forward Slash Jack is the best

(01:54:30):
place to go. You can find us on Facebook as
well by searching Jack Tame. Thanks to my wonderful producer
Libby for doing all the difficult things for us this
morning and for guiding my musical tastes. Speaking of musical tastes,
I reckon this is one for all of us. Young
Franco is his name. He's an Aussie DJ. His new
album is called It's Frankie Baby. This song is called Daydreaming.

(01:54:51):
I will see you next week.

Speaker 11 (01:54:53):
Last of the Wild, Last of.

Speaker 25 (01:55:02):
The Wild, I can be all the things to trump

(01:55:33):
best to keep its feel.

Speaker 5 (01:55:39):
Trifted into the slip Street, come back on a cold,
get that.

Speaker 10 (01:55:52):
Up the control Hut.

Speaker 20 (01:55:55):
But the sting.

Speaker 8 (01:55:57):
Behind miss.

Speaker 10 (01:56:03):
And the start to find HM time.

Speaker 11 (01:56:14):
Last in a While Day Back in the Wild.

Speaker 1 (01:57:03):
For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, listen live
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