Full Show Podcast: 07 December 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:47):
Welcome to Saturday Mornings with Jack Tame. I'm Francesca Rudkin
filling in for Jack. Jack is off preparing for fatherhood,
which is very exciting. He's at his anti natal class today,
but he will be back with you next week. Coming
up on the show today, our film reviewer Chris Schultz
reviews a religious horror for you, You Grant of All People,

(01:08):
but if that's a bit much heading into Christmas. He
also reviews Lindsay Loewen's latest Christmas movie, which landed on
Netflix this week. Nikki Works has a delicious sounding mango
ice cream recipe for us. This morning and after ten,
we celebrate the twentieth anniversary of the Black Seeds album,
their breakthrough album, You Could Say On the Sun. Black

(01:28):
Seeds member Dan Wheatman joins us. Francesca so I started
counting headlines about Air New Zealand two weeks ago after
my flight from Nelson to Auckland was delayed by about
an hour. Then last Saturday, my partner flight from Napier
to Auckland was delayed after a bird strike. Neither delay
were hugely consequential, just a little bit irritating, but since

(01:52):
then there've been a number of press articles about issues
with planes. On the thirtieth and November and Air New
Zealand planes sat on the tarmac in Hong Kong for
hours before being canned after a fuel fould and then
Crui sickness, and Air New Zealand flight from Wellington to
Sydney was diverted to Auckland on the first to December
after engine problems, and a flight from Gisbon to Auckland
on December the second returned to Gisbon after engine problems.

(02:14):
The plan landed safely after shutting down an engine shortly
after departure. Investigations are underway for both engine issues. Anecdotally,
you don't have to search too hard to find someone
who'll share a story of a flight delayed or canceled,
often at the last minute. So it got me wondering
if we're experiencing more incidents, delays and cancellations than before.

(02:36):
Are we so are we experiencing more or are we
just complaining more? Do we feel we can complain more
because quite often we're paying good money to fly around
our little country. Recent figures released by the Ministry of
Transport which compared Jetstar and Air New Zealand services on
the main trunk jet routes that they compete on, so

(02:57):
that in September this year, Air New Zealand recorded eighty
eighty point four percent for on time departase that was
within fifteen minutes of schedule, and Jet Star was on
seventy eight percent. For on time arrivals, Air New Zealand
recorded eighty two point one percent, Jetstar eighty point six.
But in January this year, Air New Zealand was sitting
at eighty eight percent. It dropped to seventy seven percent

(03:21):
in March this year, so reliability has fluctuated throughout the year.
Another interesting figure, Air New Zealand's cancelation rate was one
point four percent, more than twice Jet Stars which was
zero point six percent. So yeah, the stats could be better.
We all accept airlines can't control weather that Air New
Zealand has had other issues to grapple with planes out

(03:41):
of action due to high global demand for engine maintenance
meant that ten jets were out of service in the
first half of this financial year. It's not expected that
this will be sorted until twenty twenty six. On top
of this, the travel market has been a mixed bag,
leading the airline to announce this week, Oh let's see,
I stopped counting the headlines. By this point they will
be running fewer flights on some domestic routes in twenty

(04:03):
twenty five. Who knows what this will do to the prices.
A one point four percent cancelation rate is actually tiny
in the overall scheme of things, but when combined with
all the other disruptions and the high prices, Air New
Zealand has its challenges cut out for them. For so
long they have been a beloved New Zealand brand, but
since COVID it's been like pushing a dreamliner uphill. Have

(04:25):
you run out of patience? Yet? The Air New Zealand
service and staff may be fabulous, but as long as
the fleet and financials remains under pressure, it looks like
it'll be difficult to quiet those headlines for a while.
Yet Francisco, So I am curious to hear from you

(04:46):
whether you have run out of patients. I actually flew
Jetstar recently to a funeral basically because it was, you know,
having to buy a ticket at a short notice, and
it was considerably cheaper, but it was risky. It was
a really time. It was a really type frame. I
was flying in an hour before the funeral started, and
I thought, oh, this is not going to go well.
But I was on the ground five minutes earlier than anticipated,

(05:11):
and I had the same experience returning home. I've always
been hugely loyal. I've always really enjoyed supporting a New Zealand.
But I'm at the point now where I am going
to shop around keen to hear from you. Ninety two
ninety two. It is twelve past nine News Talks.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
There'd be no better way to kick off your weekend
than with Francesco Saturday Mornings with Francesca Rudkin in for
Jack Taime and Be Pure Quality Supplements for Essential Energy.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
News Talks at b and as always here on Saturday mornings,
we'd like to kick off the little dose of Kevin
Melaney joined us.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
Now, Good morning, Good morning, Francesca. Yes, I have run
out of patience. I have run out of patience. I
ran out of patients years ago when actually in New
Zealand held an open day at the Carpety Airport PA,
and then the following week pulled out had about So

(06:08):
it was, yeah, weird behavior.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Really, I'm a bit of a slow adapter and I'm
ridiculously loyal. I've been saying I'm going to leave my
bank as well for thirty five years, Kevin.

Speaker 4 (06:20):
Yeah, I'm ridiculously loyal within New Zealand. I thought in
the good old days, when they're putting out those wonderful lads,
I thought they were really.

Speaker 3 (06:31):
My favorite New Zealand firm.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
Things have just gone rapidly downhill, as you pointed out.
And at the same time, I think Jets have lifted
their acts so much, as you say, they're so much
cheaper on some clients. Definitely worth shopping around now.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
And look, and I feel for anything on because it
does look like a whole lot of completely unrelated issues
have all kind of come at them all at once.
I mean, it's just been a very unfortunate sort of
collision of a whole lot of issue choose and then
you throw COVID on top of it, so it is
really difficult. I just don't think they're going to get
out of it in a hurry unfortunately. Anyway, let's talk

(07:16):
about some edgy art that you've recently gave.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
On the Higher Matters Pleasure on the Saturday, because I
want to talk about art, which I suspect also an
interest of yours. I may be wrong what it is,
No it is.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
I do have a degree in art history and a
few other things I've never got around to using.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
This week I saw the huge and impressive Banks the
exhibition that the New Wellington Convention Center. Banks has done
some sort of bad stuff that most people wouldn't approve of,
like one exhibition painting live animals, at another releasing two

(08:01):
hundred rats onto the flor just before the doors opened.
You could take your choice, go or go home. I'd
have gone. I'd have gone home. Yet I discovered at
the art of Banksy the guy is so wonderfully talented,
almost as good a writer and ideas man as a

(08:21):
street artist. Funnily enough, the week before I'd bought an
oil painting by a former New Zealand Krim Simon Kerr.
Simon was the leader of the Hole on Wall gang
that broke into banks and rated atm machines. He also
became famous for leading prisoner riots on the roof of

(08:43):
Mount Eden Jail. Simon did a long stretch in prison
where he discovered he had a talent for painting. I
think his works fabulous, and I couldn't resist buying his
portrait of himself as the pirate Blackbeard. Now this large
oil painting and our hangs in our lounge inviting guests

(09:04):
to put a side to Corum and let fly with
why the hell have you got that painting of black
Bed in here? And why do you support ex bank robbers?
And so you see my link between him and Banksy
in a way. I don't know how you answer a
question like that. It's a question intended as a statement,
isn't it.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
I was going to ask what the answer was.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Yeah, well I had the answer here at the Banksy exhibition.
Banksy himself quotes no less than eleanor Roosevelt quote the
role of art is to comfort the disturbed and disturb
the comfortable. Perfect I reckon, if anyone comes to our

(09:48):
place and wants to complain about the art, they will
hear the role of art is the comfort the disturbed
and disturbed the comfortable.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
Do you like that quote?

Speaker 1 (10:00):
I do?

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Which one is it doing more for you?

Speaker 3 (10:07):
I'm actually, in a way, I'm slightly pleasantly surprised at
people's open attitude to that picture of Simon k it's
really a picture of black Beard. Have you seen that
by any chance?

Speaker 6 (10:21):
No?

Speaker 2 (10:21):
I haven't. But I think the thing to remember is
that Simon's you know, his his his history, his his
story is really interesting. But the art has to sort
of speak for itself, doesn't it. It has to be as
you know, it has to be. It's the work that matters,
I suppose is what I'm trying to say. Is the backstory,

(10:41):
and his work is really stunning. I mean, I can't
imagine what it would be like the big scale, aren't.

Speaker 3 (10:46):
They It was a hell of a I actually put
it on. I did a real man thing. I was
on my own and I just had it framed with
a large, heavy frame, and I tried to put it
on the wall, on the bums up and managed to
do it. But my back's now a bit and it

(11:08):
could easily have ended in the most appalling disaster you
just need, which would have taken out the painting quite
a lot of my wife's favorite crockery. Why do men
do these sorts of things? I found the something I
knew all the time. Wait for somebody to come home
that are they?

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Well, now you can just sit and enjoy your extraoriny
new piece of art. Hey, if you do love Banksy
and if anyone else has been to that exhibition and
really enjoyed it. He released a film. It was called
Exit through the Gift Shop and it was released in
twenty ten. It's a British documentary and film by artist Banksy,

(11:50):
and it's a really great doco that's while worth catching,
I think you're probably going to have to pay for
it to watch it on a streaming service.

Speaker 7 (12:00):
But he.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Tells a story of a French immigrant actually who was
and Los Angeles who filmed a whole lot of street artists,
so it sort of follows along that path. Anyway. It's
really really well done. If anyone's looking for a film recommendation,
that's a movie that banks he made. It's great.

Speaker 8 (12:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
I saw some reference to that in the show actually,
and I love to see the whole thing. It's yeah,
he's such a highly intelligent dude, doesn't he really?

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (12:31):
Very much.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Sorry, it is going to be wonderful one day Kevin
to work out who he actually is. Thank you so much.
Nice to talk to you. Andrew Saville. Is what us
next with sport twenty two past nine?

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of techs in. It feels like a lot of people
are no longer loyal to Air New Zealand. Just about

(13:57):
every Friday take is delayed or canceled by Air New Zealand.
It's a ripoffsys one loyal Air New Zealand customer for years,
and other text reads CARDU, business, use, etc. Etca. My
experiences here has been awful, no care or recognition of
customer needs, complaints unresolved. Full computer says, no attitude. We'll
be definitely shopping around from now on. If you were
flying international, quantus of streets ahead, and if you don't

(14:20):
have to watch those cringey safety videos, thank you very much.
Ninety two ninety two is of course the text joining
me now to talk sport Andrew Saville.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
Good morning morning, Francisca.

Speaker 3 (14:31):
How are you.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
I'm really good, thank you, and I'm looking forward to
another day of cricket. It looks like a lovely day
in Wellington at the Basin Reserve.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
I think the black Cats would have been praying for
rain overnight coming tomorrow one of those I have one
of those Wellington Southerly's tear through. They're not in a
great position. In fact, the Test may well only last
three days, which is happening a lot in Test match
cricket these days. We have a really get a Test

(15:00):
match that goes five days because the way teams play
attacking cricket. But yeah, the black Caps in trouble. Around
two hundred still behind England and they've only got a
handful of wickets left in their first inning. So such
promising start yesterday, But like christ Church where the black
Caps bowlers got stuck into the English top order, then

(15:22):
the English fought back posted a half decent score and
then they've they've taken the top off the New Zealand
batting orders. So I'll tell you what though, The positive
is Francisca that if you paid to go and watch
yesterday at the base and you've got a heat of
a lot of cricket, you sure for your dollar yesterday
a lot of action, a lot of wickets, low runs.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Can the black Caps fight back to day thing.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Well, they've got a few batsmen left capable of half
decent scores at a Test match level. But this English
bowling attacks been bowling well, led by Ben Stokes and co.
So they need to get at least another one hundred
and one fifty. I don't think that all happened. Be

(16:07):
surprised if it did, and then the English will come
in and it's up to the New Zealand bowlers to
try and get stuck into them again. But I think
by the looks of things after just one day, it
looks as England rull and truly in the box seat,
and which would mean if they go through and win,
they've already won the series two. So with that food
Test to come in Hamilton. Okay, So the promising signs

(16:29):
we saw in India, Yeah, well that amazing historic away
series win in India now seems but a distant memory.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
Oh not at all. Just hold it, hold on tightly
to it, Andrew, Hey, he try, you know, keep the
best memories alive. If it does. Yes, if it rains tomorrow.
What did the black Caps need to do today? Okay?

Speaker 4 (16:55):
Yeah, hang on, score a few runs, try and eke
out like I say one hundred and one fifty and
then and then hope that their bowlers can bowling them
out rather cheaply. That's that's the only hope I've got.
You know, it's never Test match cricket, never over until
it's over. There's always a glimmer of hope. So we'll see.
That's what makes it so intrigue. And still, you know,
a great sport for a lot of people, not everybody,

(17:17):
a great sport for a lot of people to watch.

Speaker 2 (17:19):
I love it. There we go a bit of optimism
to end on. So of course that day two kicks
off at eleven am this morning and at five pm
this afternoon. It is all go At Go Media Stadium,
isn't it.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
Yeah? Mount Smart can't wait. It's a relatively fine day
in Auckland, a little bit overcast but warm. Great kickoff time.
The Auckland FC management made it very clear when they
were building this club that they wanted sort of late
afternoon kickoffs for families, primarily so the game would be

(17:50):
finished by seven at the latest and then you could
either go out for dinner afterwards or go home. So
great move, big big crowd there tonight, sold out twenty
five twenty six thousand, biggest New Zealand A League crowd
in history, and already it's quite amazing, Francesca, isn't it

(18:10):
already after ten twelve months of life. There's there's bite
between Auckland f C and Wellington Phoenix. There's feeling between
their fans. Auckland f C already have a group of
hardcore fans that behind that Southern goal every match it's been.
It has been quite a remarkable build of this club,

(18:31):
construction of this club, and quite a remarkable run so far.
Five games, five wins, no goals conceded. So looking forward
to this game.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
I'm really taken back, Andrew at how this team has
just exploded. It's not We've had other teams join the
A League and you know they're lucky to get three
thousand people along to watch them. Yeah, it's like, I'm
really taken back and I did not I did not
anticipate this and I didn't read the room.

Speaker 9 (18:59):
I think it's just started.

Speaker 4 (19:01):
It's just yeah, there's a number of factors. I think
they've got some big backers behind them, which number one helps.
You've got to win on the field. Yes, they have
very good management, They've got a well constructed team and
let's not forget you know, you think about the Warriors
twenty five thirty years ago. They had two or three
years to form as a club and to recruit players

(19:24):
and to get everything in order. That Kulc's had ten
months so to scour the world and come up with
five or six im book players of a certain standard
and good footballers, good people, and then sign a lot
of kiwis as well, and look to the future to
develop New Zealand players. It's been it's been a rapid
rise and it's been quite remarkable. The Phoenix, on the

(19:46):
other hand, they do have a chance today. They've been
playing some pretty good football though we well and truly
motivated after they got beaten home in the first local
derby a few weeks ago, so it should be a
crackible match. But I think what Auckland have c has
done so far, you know, the merchandise sold out in
the heartbeat, tickets going through the roof. Even last week
in terrible weather conditions in Auckland, ten fifteen thousand still

(20:10):
turned up. So I think they've done a great job
so far. Will it continue, probably not. It would be
a major, major surprise if they kept on and on
and on winning all games. But it's been a great start.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Oh, it's been a fantastic start. Thanks so much, Andrew.
Appreciate your time today.

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Right.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
If you love Hugh Grant and you do not want
to watch Love Actually Again, you might want to watch
his new film. It's called Heretic. He plays. It's a
horror film though an our sixteen horror film, and he
plays the villain, which is very much against type. This
is the first time he's had a role like this.
So just how good is this a film? Chris Schultz

(20:48):
with his verdict next here, next here on Saturday mornings
twenty seven to ten times out.

Speaker 10 (20:56):
Take it Away to the dark Side Your.

Speaker 11 (21:04):
Son I loved Oh.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
So, despite being more than a decade old, this song
topped the Spotify Rapped charts as the Australian song that
Ossie's listened to the most this year. The track came
out in twenty thirteen and it still frequents the number
one spot on the ARIA charts. To that is staying power,
isn't it, Folks. Later in the show, we're going to
be revealing the Kiwi song that Kiwi's loved The most.

(21:32):
I'm not going to be revealing my song because it
is absolutely shocking, and I don't mean like and yeah,
it's just it's a shocking song. And I actually it's
all a bit of a mystery my Spotify and rap
this year. I don't believe I've ever listened to the
song about a stripper, which turns out to be my
number one. Maybe more on that later anyway, Joining us
now to talk movies, Chris Schultz, good morning.

Speaker 7 (21:56):
Good morning, Francesca.

Speaker 12 (21:57):
I'm not revealing my number one either, because my daughter
hijacks my playlist and it's all Taylor Swifts.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Okay, well that's that's okay, that's acceptable. Mine was hijacked
by an eighteen year old boy who likes hip hop,
and I now have my number one song about a stripper.
I don't even understand the lyrics. I was just absolutely mortified.
I was like, who is this? So I go and
listen to this song and I was just like, holy moly. Anyway,

(22:25):
let's move on. We're going to talk about heretic. Let's
have a listen to the trailer.

Speaker 13 (22:35):
Are you interested in learning more about the Church of
Jesus christis Come on it.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
We just need to go home.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
I won't keep you if you wish to leave, but
I want you to choose which door to go through
based on your faith.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
So about this time of the year, Chris, most people
wouldn't you know, think, oh, yes, I'd love to watch
a Hugh Grant film. Let's pull out a romantic comedy.

Speaker 7 (23:04):
Totally true.

Speaker 12 (23:05):
That is the wrong time a year to be releasing
a horror movie. This should have been released two months ago.
At Halloween. We're all going to the beach, We're celebrating Christmas.
The Christmas music is on at the malls. Who feels
like going to a darkened cinema to watch a horror movie?
But yes, Hugh Grant is in this. This is a
huge change of pace for him. He's always been the

(23:26):
dapper English gentleman, the leading man in a rom com.

Speaker 7 (23:30):
But he's been pretty open.

Speaker 12 (23:32):
About Now at sixty four, he's not really getting those
opportunities anymore.

Speaker 7 (23:36):
So he's doing some weird stuff. We last saw him.

Speaker 12 (23:38):
And Willie Wonka playing an mpolumpa, and here he is
playing true evil and who knew he's fantastic at it?
This is the best reason to get to a cinema
to see heretic Hugh Grant. He's using those tricks. So
I think that's what makes this so clever. He's using
those tricks that he used in those rom coms. The

(23:59):
wry smile, the kind eyes, the very welcoming, gentle kind
of warmth he has, he wins you over, and then
in this he's just giving it a twist and he's evil.
He's playing mister Reed, a kind of creepy man living
alone who invites two Mormon women, young woman doing God's work,

(24:20):
spreading the message, into his home and then sort of
sets these traps for them. I mean, the trailer made
this look like Sore meets Labyrinth. You know, they sort
of go on this religious journey. He takes them on
this kind of cat and mouse journey trying to teach
them about religion. This film has so much to say,

(24:41):
almost too much to say about religion.

Speaker 7 (24:45):
The downside of it is the monologues in it.

Speaker 12 (24:49):
They almost overuse Hugh Grant. A little bit less is
often more in these kinds of movies. But then he
sort of launches into these monologues about religion and why
it's wrong, and then he sort of has these metaphors
where he's using radiohead songs. He sings Radioheads creep, he
brings in Judge our Binks from Star Wars. There's a

(25:11):
whole five minute sequence that equates monopoly to religion that
I'm still kind of getting my head around. So the
first half of the movie is all set up and
when you get to the second half, it's great, but
it just takes a little too.

Speaker 7 (25:24):
Long to get there.

Speaker 12 (25:26):
But Hugh Grant fantastic, I mean, this is I hope
he does more of this.

Speaker 7 (25:29):
He's he's just so good it.

Speaker 12 (25:31):
I really hope this is like a new thing that
he's just in like all of the horror movies now,
because he's so good at it.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
There's something a little bit different, some lighter christmasphere. We're
going to have it. Listen to the trainer for our
little secret. Imagine us.

Speaker 14 (25:46):
I'm spending the holidays with my boyfriend's family for the
first time.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
This is for you.

Speaker 14 (25:53):
Look it's his script talk that's from Easy.

Speaker 15 (25:57):
Here is all.

Speaker 14 (25:58):
He has a lot of family members too many to remember,
and his sister is also bringing someone I want you
to meet by.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
My axe busted. So my first question for your here, Chris,
is did you finish this film.

Speaker 7 (26:16):
That is an excellent question.

Speaker 12 (26:17):
I'm not going to respond I had it on in
the background.

Speaker 7 (26:23):
Let's put it that way.

Speaker 12 (26:23):
No, there are some bonkers Christmas movies around this year.
I read one complete box office disaster with Chris Evans
and the Rock trying to save Center. Hot Frosty, a
Netflix rom com in which a woman falls in love
with a ripped snowman who comes to life. But Our
Little Secret is on Netflix. This might be the weirdest

(26:45):
one of them all. This is part of the Lindsay
lohand comeback train that she's on. She's she's made a
few Netflix movies now she's she's sorted her life out.
She was a tabloid disaster for a long time, and
she's she's making movies again. She's actually a pretty good actor.
She's not the problem with Our Little Secret. The problem
is kind of everything else. It's just such strange film.

(27:09):
It's got this weird opening with like they go through
like ten years of highlights and most of them are
like Netflix things. There's a weird weed gummy sequence in
a church. It's about Lindsay Lohan. Her character goes home
with her new partner to meet the in laws and

(27:30):
then an X is there from ten years ago, and
they decide not to tell them that they know each other.
And obviously this is a rom com, so you can
see what's going to happen. But it's just it's so strange.
The characters sort of seem like they're all in different films.
They yell out lines that just don't make sense. At
one point, one character yelled out touche, but nothing that

(27:51):
had been building up to that moment.

Speaker 7 (27:54):
Need like he had no reason to say it.

Speaker 12 (27:57):
So you almost like need to watch this, like you
watch Tommy Wizzau's of the Room kind of ironically, maybe
have some drinking games, and I think you could have
a good time, like if you had a whole bunch
of friends or family over. Yeah, and you watch this
because it's almost so bad that it's good. It falls
into that kind of character.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
It left me asking the question when did Christmas movies
become all about romance and why? And then I went
down a rabbit hole and I really didn't get an
answer for it, except it's the season of love. We
all want good happy stories. Everybody you know. Apparently there's
an America anyway. This is a pressure to bring home
a partner, you know, at Christmas time. Basically, I've decided

(28:36):
Christmas movies don't like single people.

Speaker 12 (28:39):
Yeah, well there is actually a good example, right, Kristen
Stewart did Happiest Season like four or.

Speaker 7 (28:43):
Five years ago.

Speaker 5 (28:44):
I want to see.

Speaker 7 (28:45):
Yeah, that's a really good Christmas movie. You can do it.
It's just I don't know.

Speaker 12 (28:50):
We've all got our favorites, right, we all go back
and just play the classics.

Speaker 7 (28:53):
In our house is alf and Home Alone. We watch
those every year.

Speaker 12 (28:56):
To make a new Christmas movie that joins that canon
is so impossibly hard because you're fighting against, you know,
fifty years of film that everyone's already attached to their
favorite films.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
Thank you very much, Chris for putting yourself through that.
That's our little secret is screening on Netflix, and if
you want to head to the cinema's heretic it is
an R sixteen as well. Just bear that in mind.
Coming up after ten this morning, Dan Weatman from The
Black Seeds is going to join me to talk about
being in the biz for over twenty five years, what's
changed in the music industry over that time, and what hasn't.

(29:27):
Next up, though Mango I scream sixteen to ten.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Saturday mornings with Francesca Rudgin in for Jack daim keeping
the conversation going through the weekend with Bepewer Polity settlements
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Speaker 2 (29:42):
That'd be thank you for your feedback this morning. Text here,
interesting thing about Air New Zealand flights. I think to
improve on time stats. Is it a while ago they
increased some flight times by five to ten minutes. For example,
Wellington Auckland used to be one hour and is now
one hour five That is interesting. Thank you for that.
The text continues. I think for Jetstar it's that they

(30:04):
have no backup planes or can't change schedules easily with
the small feat so when they have no problems they
are fine, but any delay then ricochets throughout the day.
Thanks for your text, Thomas. Another one here. I'd much
rather in New Zealand but overcautious with their planes and
being delayed isn't a problem for me, but I'd be
pretty upset when we run into trouble thirty thousand feet
in Yet couldn't agree with you more muss and that's

(30:26):
why you know when my partner was told, oh, look
there's been a bird strike. We've got to get someone
and we've got to make sure it's all fine. We're like,
take your time. You know, no one wants to get
on a plane where there could be a potential problem.
So that and it wasn't a problem, and it was
just a bit annoying, but you know, Tim got home
in time for the dance show and everything was you know,
the world carried on. It really wasn't a big deal.
So I couldn't agree with you more there. You know,

(30:48):
we need to make sure that safety comes first. But
definitely a lot of you are texting just with your stories,
especially talking about the regions, and without that competition, there
seems to be a lack of care. At the end
of the day, they are a company and they are
there to make money. I don't have a problem, you know,
obviously supply demand. They've got a whole lot of other issues.

(31:08):
He spending thirty five million per upgrading each Dreamliner at
the moment, which is going on a rolling schedule. They've got,
you know, other things imposed on them that we're out
of their control. And we do want them to be
a successful, profitable company, you know, don't have a problem
with that. I think it just comes down to trying
to find a way with all these challenges to just

(31:29):
become more reliable and keep us little Kiwis flying with them.
And thank you very much for your text. Exit through
the gift shop available on Beam A Film. I mentioned
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watch the film at your leisure, so thank you for that.
Joining me now is Nikki Wiks. Good morning, Nikki, Good
morning Francesca. I don't think I've ever eaten mango ice cream,
oh my goodness, and I would like me we love
one right now? Absolutely, yeah, I do. Yeah.

Speaker 16 (32:10):
Look, I thought about this this week because for those
of us who were sort of unfortunate enough to be
in Auckland and perhaps other places too, on Thursday of
this week, two days ago, it was so stinking hot.

Speaker 17 (32:22):
It was just a week ago.

Speaker 16 (32:24):
We were all saying, when a summer going to arrive
and it's all drizzling and it's cold, Oh my goodness.
Thursday was a taste of things to come. And I
ate four mangoes a last week this week that we
just had because they are so good at the moment,
available in our supermarkets and fruit shops, and they're just
at their premium. We're getting these beautiful Australian mangoes. There's

(32:47):
a couple of varieties, either Calypso or what's my other favorite?
R two E two, which sounds like something from Star Walls,
I think. And you know you can get. You can
get to figure out what your favorite mango is and
then turn it into this beautiful ice cream. And this
is so easy. You do need a food process of
fantasca or a blender. Do you have either one of those?

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yes?

Speaker 17 (33:07):
I do?

Speaker 16 (33:07):
Then you are okay, okay, all right, you're in Hey.
Look I call it ice cream, which is a bit
naughty because ice cream really technically needs to have a
lot of cream in it. And this, in fact is
sort of a vegan sort of cheats version just because
it's easy. What you need is one cup of chopped
and frozen mango.

Speaker 6 (33:23):
Now I am encouraging.

Speaker 16 (33:25):
You to use fresh mango here, but when they're not
in season, you can get those wonderful packets of frozen
mango is fine and also tinned mango works, but it
needs to be frozen because we're making a frozen delight.
Here one large banana that's chopped and frozen to and
I always have those in my freezer. That's you know,
when the banana gets a little bit old, I either
turn it into a banana cake or I'll chop it

(33:46):
up and chuck it in the freezer for smoothies and
in this case, ice cream. The banana in any fruit,
ice cream gives it the creaminess, it gives it some sweetness.
So that's what we're after. Hear so, And then you've
got two tablespoons of either coconut cream or milk, or
you could use cream here, and that really just to
get it a little bit of looseness as we go,

(34:09):
and then place all of those ingredients into the blender
and pulse it until it's smooth and creamy. And it
will be and you can either serve it straight away.
I mean, honestly takes two seconds to make it. You
can scoop it into a cone. I don't know whether
you when you go and get gelato, Francesca, are you
a cone or a tub person?

Speaker 2 (34:27):
I'm a cone girl.

Speaker 16 (34:29):
Oh well, you are the right sort of person because
you get such a you get all the sensations by
getting your ice cream in a cone, so I must
have mad. I look a little bit down on people
who get it in the.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
In the little tubby ice cream.

Speaker 16 (34:45):
And the reason for that is you're going to get
that awful wooden spoon that is just no just sort
of drag over your toe. Whereas when you are eating
it from a cone, you're getting this whole malefield. The
tongue has got so many senses on it, so by
licking that ice cream, you're just getting this beautiful feeling.
So this scoops really nicely into some cones, and it's
fun to have ice cream cones at home, and but

(35:05):
you feel like a kid anytime you like.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
The only problem is I make a recipe like this
and it just doesn't last. It's gone, yeah.

Speaker 5 (35:11):
Right, I know, I know, I don't.

Speaker 16 (35:13):
The way to make it last is to not eat
it immediately. That's my favorite way to do it, is
to eat it the meating because it's that perfect consistency.
But if you pop it in the freezer, then of
course it's going to freeze to quite hut because it
has got a bit of liquid in there. And so
my recommendation with in fact, any ice cream that you
buy or make yourself is always take it out. If

(35:34):
it's gelato, take it out twenty minutes before serving, and
if it's ice cream, take it out thirty minutes and
it just will then soften to the ultimate kind of
scooping texture. So I just love this. And then you
can have fun with some garnishes. Manga goes beautifully with coconut,
so some toasted coconut on the top, maybe a drizzle

(35:54):
of passion fruit up or something like that. But you
can go crazy popcorn, sprinkles, crushed crunchy bars, whatever you like.
And I just think it is such a great way
to eat ice cream, and mango ice cream is amazing.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Thank you, oh, thank you so much, Nikki. You can
get that recipe at Newstalk ZDB dot co dot NZ.
I think I'll just chug that in a bag and
take it home and wip that up this weekend. It
is a seven to ten.

Speaker 1 (36:19):
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Speaker 7 (36:32):
Right.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Well, the Black Seeds have been entertaining us for over
a quarter of a century, now can you believe it?
Thanks you a little bit old, doesn't it. Next on
the show, Dan Weakman is going to join me to
reflect on their incredible career and to celebrate the twentieth
anniversary of their second album, was called on the Sun.
It's having a very special re release and Dan's going
to tell us all about it. Next, we're going to

(36:54):
finish the hour with a previously unreleased song. It's called
Rogan Josh. But this is a song that was a
live favorite. So if you've seen these guys play live,
you're probably familiar with song, but they had added it
on to this twentieth anniversary edition. We will be back shortly.
I'll leave you with a little bit of the Black Seats.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
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Speaker 18 (38:54):
True is what I get from you get the best
of me?

Speaker 9 (39:06):
True that you.

Speaker 11 (39:13):
Get the best of me.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
The Black Seeds have been jamming for over a quarter
of a century. They're infamous for their part in shaping
the modern Kiwi music scene, and have been blending funk, soul,
dub and South Pacific influences to develop a uniquely Kiwi
sound since nineteen ninety eight. Yep, it's been that long.
To celebrate the twentieth anniversary of the album that really

(39:37):
gave the band their breakthrough, on the Sun, their second album,
is having a very special re release, and Dan Watman
of The Black Seeds joins me, Now, Cura, good morning, Cura.
I feel really old reading that out. It's a quarter
of a century, over record of a century.

Speaker 15 (39:55):
Twenty six, I know, it's.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
How does that feel?

Speaker 15 (40:01):
I don't I used to.

Speaker 19 (40:02):
I think in the past I used to say I
used to feel old. But you feel proud, and I
think that's what takes over. And also we're still creating music,
so I'm excited. Just last weekend we're done in Wellington
working on album eight. And if I was coming here

(40:22):
and we were just celebrating this and it's twenty years
and we haven't done an album in five, you know,
in a long period of time, I think it'd be
a little bit depressed about that.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
That's a really good point because if I think about
bands who are touring. There are a lot of bands.
It's sort of entrend at the moment to have done
nothing for ten fifteen years and suddenly, you know, older
bands are hitting the road again, and there seems to
be a bit of a market for that. But I
get I can see that little difference that you've got there.
We're still really productive, and we're.

Speaker 19 (40:55):
Still really productive. I'm really excited. I was saying to
the boys about before doing a whole lot of media
to talk about.

Speaker 15 (41:06):
On the sun.

Speaker 19 (41:08):
That I'm just I'm so energized. My soul is energized
from what we did on the weekend of working on
this new album, and and that's partly before it because
it was so productive, and you know, I'm we're old fellas,
and you kind of start questioning, like where you're at

(41:29):
and do we carry I mean I do. I'm not
speaking for the rest of the guys, but you know,
how long do we do this? And but when I
come back to the band and we're all together and
we're creating and people are bringing ideas, it's just exactly
what I need. It's the medicine that I need. And

(41:50):
I think that's the same for the guys. And so
I come here today and I'm just you know, I'm
excited about twenty years on the Sun, but I'm very
excited about album.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
Mate, tell me about On the Sun. How formative was
this album to how the band sounded operate today?

Speaker 19 (42:07):
Well, yeah, I mean it's it's it's such a different band.
This is on the last last weekend, we had Brett McKenzie,
you know from Flight of the Concord Fame, come back
and celebrate because he was playing keys on this album
and wrote brought Fire the tuned Fire to our attention,

(42:32):
and we had Shannon Williams on bass and Rich Christy
on drums. And I think like this period is there's
a bit of naivety. There's there's just trying to young
and trying things and trying to achieve that. And I

(42:55):
think with Lee Prepper, who also recorded it, he's said
that as well, you know, like how do we get
you know, we'd.

Speaker 15 (43:02):
Go to Lin say how do we make this sound
like this?

Speaker 19 (43:06):
And like, oh, yes, well, you know, pully feed us,
make us feel secure and give us some sort of
answer and then we'd carry on. And and so we've
brought in you know, with fire. It's got the funk
part of it, and you can feel some of those
elements come into this this album.

Speaker 15 (43:26):
And then.

Speaker 19 (43:28):
You know, when Barney wrote brought the idea so true,
I personally didn't think.

Speaker 15 (43:36):
I didn't really think too much of it.

Speaker 19 (43:38):
I thought, yeah, that's a love song, and I'm not
at that stage in my life where I'm thinking about that.

Speaker 15 (43:42):
I'm I've said it before.

Speaker 19 (43:44):
I think I was in my nine inch nails face
and it still am still love that that heavier type
of music. And I didn't understand this, this what he
was saying. And then the music taught me. The song
taught me wonderful.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
To see it being released on vinyl. Is this the
first album you've released on vinyl?

Speaker 19 (44:05):
No, We've got that's our first album, Keep on Bushing
that was released on vinyl. We've got a remix album
from many years ago that's on vinyl, Into the Dojo
that's also on vinyl. Classic Album, and that's a that's
a gold vinyl. Yeah, this one, the double LP.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Got a new track on there.

Speaker 19 (44:30):
We've got two new tracks on here Rogan Josh and
so True in Today Muri and and that's that has
brought it to life again of a song that was
a romantic song, so true to a song that is

(44:53):
more of love for.

Speaker 15 (44:56):
Just the message of love.

Speaker 19 (44:57):
I think as where Barney feel's with with that song.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Yeah, it's interesting because because you have been around twenty
six year, you've seen the music industry, I imagine, change
an awful lot. We've seen the explosion of digital music.
We're seeing the re emergence of you know, of physical
media like vinyl and things. Does it actually does any
of that actually change the way a band functions and

(45:25):
exists or at the end of the day, is it's
still just the same. You get together, you write music,
you create, create the music, record the music to the
music is it Is it still the same as it
used to be?

Speaker 19 (45:37):
That is still the same. I don't think that can change.
I think we have to adjust to social media and
and what what what do we need to bring? What
do how much do we share? What are we sharing?
And and and understanding that and is and you know,

(46:00):
you can have so many pop ups of like if
you think posting every day is the way, then it's
not subscribe to this and.

Speaker 15 (46:12):
The one thing like the creative part of it. Yes,
that is still the same.

Speaker 19 (46:17):
I guess we have more technology now to record through
each have an individual interface to record into the last album.
During COVID we had zoom sessions and me and Niger
our keyboarders could set share share those sessions and.

Speaker 15 (46:38):
So that was great.

Speaker 19 (46:40):
But yeah, I think like this social media has been
something that we've had to adjust to. Not everybody's keen
on sharing in that way, and sometimes you can get
a bit burnt out of using that device, your phone
and sharing hey, this is what I've done today, or

(47:03):
do we have the content to put in there and
get in those sort of Yeah, And I think but
the one thing with this social media is that and
there's changed from the past, is that we can connect
directly to our fans and that's how I like. That's
what I love about it is that if someone's got

(47:26):
the time to message us on you know, recently on
a post about the fire video and then and you
can see it instantly how many people are sending great
messages to it. And it's like we need to message

(47:46):
back with a sentence and not just a heart. And
I have to take a step back, like I do
a bit of the social media, and I have to
take a step back, and my expectations on the other
guys are like, no, you're not. It's a headspace right
to be in there to reply back to somebody that
you're probably never going to meet. But I think of

(48:07):
it as that and you can't sell those ideas. Do
you have to experience it and get your head around it.
It's like I'm I can't easily message people because because
I've got my head into that space when I'm not
burnt out by social media.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
It's interesting you mentioned doing the recording via zoom because
we think of you as famously a Wellington band, but really,
is there anyone left to Wellington.

Speaker 19 (48:35):
Ryan Prebble, who's our latest guitarist, has played with us
for many years overseas.

Speaker 15 (48:41):
He is the only one in Wellington.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
So we've got Wellington is represented. So how does the
band work? Then, of course you've just been talking about
that it's a bad work because you just mentioned that
album number eight is and is in the book. So
what happens do you do? Do you do a certain
amount separately and then just sort of come together and
go through that credit point.

Speaker 19 (49:02):
I mean, it's it's it's hard and you don't want
to think about it's it's frustrating and which we get
together like we did on the weekend, all stay in
the studio and just trying to bring ideas. I brought
an idea, Barney brings an idea, Johnny our drummer, and

(49:28):
and we have some other demos that we had from
the previous session. So it's really in these small pockets
of time. So when we're down there, it is you know,
ten o'clock till if it's you know, three in the morning,
and that's not all of us, it's me and me
and Barney are very big on Okay, if you've got

(49:50):
a vocal idea to just just.

Speaker 15 (49:53):
Get down, let's just try it. Usually I'll be there like.

Speaker 19 (49:57):
Doing some percussion, just trying to use up that time
is just be as productive as possible and usually near
the end you get a bit burnt out. So yeah,
over the weekend it was like three point thirty.

Speaker 15 (50:14):
You're in bed. It's hard.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
You mentioned before day jobs, and I think that's a
reality of being for most musicians in New Zealand, regardless
of whether you're touring the world or not. What do
you do.

Speaker 19 (50:28):
I am a height safety supervisor.

Speaker 15 (50:32):
We install.

Speaker 19 (50:35):
Height safety systems like letters that probably get into this
building anchor points that you would have up there. So
I'm we're making it safe access. And so I supervise
young little crews for this company technical Rigging Services, which
my boss will be stoked about to get that on there.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
And I really wasn't expecting you were going to say.

Speaker 19 (50:59):
That, oh, the height safety supervisor.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
I'm teaching or I work here, you know, like it's
sort of something within within. I like that that you've
got two different worlds. Although that is quite that'd be
quite a new racking job. You've got to get that right.

Speaker 15 (51:12):
Yeah, you have to get that right.

Speaker 3 (51:15):
I think.

Speaker 4 (51:17):
I think.

Speaker 19 (51:17):
I think both my job with the seeds and that
job have made me I think routine is I need it,
and the responsibility that I have. I wasn't a supervisor
before in previous jobs, and that's just put me in
a good headspace for direction and what's coming next. And

(51:40):
and I think with the band, dealing with other people
has been helpful being a supervisor. It's it's not easy
if anybody would know to.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Have someone with better health and safety kind of consciousness.

Speaker 20 (51:56):
Yeah, yeah, the one of those guys is like, yeah,
they shouldn't have that post for a backstage. It's like
someone cover this cable play cones and barriers over here.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
I love it. I love it, Oh Dan, It's been
really good to talk to you. Enjoy celebrating this album.

Speaker 15 (52:14):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
So wait for the album number eight? When can we
expect that.

Speaker 15 (52:17):
That's going to be next year? Yeah?

Speaker 19 (52:20):
So yeah, you can get on the Sun. There's about
a thousand of these, like I was saying, have been pressed,
and yeah we've got the bonus tracks on there as well,
and just a little beauty.

Speaker 15 (52:34):
Yeah, so enjoy that.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Thanks for chatting, thank you, and on the Sun. The
anniversary version is available now right. Ted Danson is back
in a new He's the lead in a new Netflix show.
It's called Man on the Inside. Gonna be honest, I
didn't have great expectations for it, but it is a
little charmer tied Danson. He is just so incredibly likable.

(52:58):
I mean I still think of him as Sam from Cheers.
I just used to love watching that show as a kid. Anyway,
I am loving this gentle new comedy from him. We're
gonna hear what Tara Ward thinks of it next. It
is twenty one past ten. You have Saturday mornings on
News Talks at B.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Start your weekend off in style Saturday Mornings with Francesca
Rudkin in for Jack Tame and Be Pure Quality Supplements
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Speaker 2 (53:26):
Yes, good to have you with us this morning on
Saturday Mornings. I am Francesca filling in for Jack. He
will be back next week, right. Tara Ward joins us
now for screen time. Good morning, Tara, Good morning. Okay. So,
as I say every time when I get one of
your lists, so I do think to myself, I should
just quickly whip through these and check the check these
TV shows out and Black Doves, which has just started

(53:47):
on Netflix is fabulous. I'm loving it.

Speaker 17 (53:52):
Oh my gosh, isn't it great? I thought the same thing.
I thought. I know, franschhisse God is gonna love this one.
But this is a fantastic news spy thriller that's just
come to Netflix, and it comes with an all star
cast including Kara Knightley, Ben with Shaw, and Sarah Lancashire.
And whenever I see Sarah Lankash's name in a show
she's starred, and shows like Happy Valley and Julia, I
know that it's going to be good. And in Black Doves,

(54:12):
Kiara Knightley plays Helen, who is a spy who's spent
the past ten years masquerading as a politician's wife. She's
married to the British Defense Secretary. She's passing on all
sorts of state secrets and when her secret lover is murdered,
she teams up with another spy played by Ben Wishaw,
who's an assassin, and together they're going to try and
find out who is behind the murder, and of course

(54:34):
they uncover this international government conspiracy that inevitably is a
lot bigger than they think. And Sarah Lancashire plays the
tough spy boss at the top who's trying to keep
Helen in check. This is set in December in London,
so you've got this cold, festive setting for this quite
tight spy thriller. And I just thought this was a
lot of fun. It's a bit pulpy, it's funny. There's

(54:57):
a really dry humor in it, but it pulls you
in from the opening seconds. It just grabs you straight away.
You know it's got some spark to it and probably
a show that you want to suspend. Belief for you know,
you probably don't want to think about the details too hard.
But if you want a thriller with lots of action
and energy and twists this weekend, I don't think you
can go wrong with No.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
It's one pleasure to dworthy now. Sight Unseen is a
bit of a different take on sort of the traditional
police crime drama.

Speaker 17 (55:28):
Yeah, this is a Canadian police drama with a bit
of a twist. And if you love those kinds of
weekly network crime dramas like Law and Order or CSI,
I think you'll enjoy this as well. It's about a
police detective in Vancouver called Tess who discovers she has
a degenerative eye condition and is going blind, and she
makes a mistake on an important case and to right

(55:51):
or wrong and solve the case, she enlists the help
of a seeing guide who she connects with over the
Internet and her phone camera, and the seeing guide helps
her physically navigate the world and solve this case. The guide, Sonny,
is actually three thousand miles away in New York, so
they're never in the same room, but together they form
this unlikely team and they have to find a balance

(56:13):
between helping each other and not getting too tangled up
in each other's lives. So on one hand, this is
quite a generic police drama and again another show that
you know you'll need to suspend belief for because it
does push the boundaries of plausibility at times. But I
thought it was a really interesting twist for the lead

(56:35):
character to have this life changing condition, you know, she
experiences the world differently to her colleagues, and that makes
the show stand out among a lot of other crime dramas.
I think, you know, it raises issues about how we
move through the world and how we connect with other people.
And it also starts Daniel Gillies, who's a New Zealand
actor doing great things overseas. So if you're a crime

(56:55):
drama fan, yeah, this is definitely worth checking out as well.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
At this time of the year, sometimes we're reaching for
just something light and enjoyable, just a little something to
take the stress of the pressure of the world away.
And that was how I was feeling when I clicked
on Mann Inside the other day, with absolutely no expectations whatsoever,
but I just found it charming.

Speaker 17 (57:16):
Oh my gosh, it's such a gem. This is a
new American comedy on Netflix. The premise of the show
is delightfully bonkers, but it stars Ted Danson, who I
think is perfect for this role. And it's created by
Michael Sher, who is behind shows like Parks and rec
and The Good Place and Brooklyn ninety nine, so you
know this guy knows how to make comedy. And ted

(57:37):
Danson he's seventy six. He plays a retired professor who's
recently widowed and is hired by a private detective to
infiltrate a rest home in San Francisco. There's a jewelry
thief on the loose in the rest home and one
of the families of the residents wants to find them,
and so ted Danson's character turns amateur detective. He moves in,

(57:58):
he becomes a mole, he becomes a man on the inside,
and he's got one month to work out who's committing
the crimes. But what happens, of course, is that he
makes free with all these quirky residents and against his
better judgment, gets this brand new lease on life again.
It's very gentle, light and heartwarming, and it has these
lovely tender moments through it where the characters reflect on

(58:19):
life and death and aging and family. I love this.
This is a gem. It's there's so much comedic talent
and experience here, but it also feels very thoughtful and
you know, as you say, charming and genuine. It's just
a delight.

Speaker 6 (58:32):
Now.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
I couldn't agree more Ted Dance and he's just so likable,
isn't he so likable? His comedic timing is just brilliant.
And when I was watching at Tara, I thought to myself,
hang on, I've seen this. I've seen this premise and
it's based on a Chilean documentary called The Mole Agent.
So if you've seen that documentary, it will kind of
it'll come together in your mind. But I wondered whether

(58:55):
sort of the idea around that this is due to
kind of the popularity of other sort of shows like
Only Murders in the Building.

Speaker 17 (59:04):
Yes, yeah, I thought the same thing. I thought, if
you like Only Medics in the Building, you'll like this too.
Just sort of a more relaxed pace, something light to
just let wash over you. But but it isn't empty
at the same time, you know, there's there's there's beautiful
levels to this one.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Thank you so much, Tara. An excellent connection of TV
shows for you today, just whipping back through them Black
Doves that are screening on Netflix. Do not start it
unless you've got some time up your sleep, because you're
just going to want to binge through that. Sight Unseen
is on three now and Man on the Inside is
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This is Blue Eyed Mari by Kerala, the track that
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song by a local artist here in New Zealand on
this year's Spotify Rapped shouldn't really be a surprise because
it also did bag breakthrough Single of the Year at
the Music Awards back in May, and Kerala one best
roots artists that night in the group of Sword to

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huge popularity this year for their gender genre I should
say genre blending sound. There's eight of them in the band.
It was formed back in twenty seventeen by members of
the Royal New Zealand Navy and they remain pretty true
to Kiwi reggae roots in their sound, but they love
to try out a bit of soul. They've released their
second album, it's called Skeletons, and actually our music reviewer

(01:01:02):
Stealic Clifford is going to share a few tracks with
us before twelve and give us her thoughts on the album.
News out this morning that TikTok is set to be
banned in the US is really interesting. I'm going to
talk to Paul Stenhouse about that in just a moment.
This is, of course, on the back of a law
that was signed in April, and it requires TikTok's Chinese owner,

(01:01:24):
Byite Dance, to sell the app to a non Chinese
company by January the nineteenth or face a ban in
the United States. Of course, they appealed. That appeal has
come out overnight the US Court of Appeals has denied
their petition to overturn the law. More than one hundred
and seventy million Americans use TikTok to entertain and inform themselves,

(01:01:48):
so it's going to be really interesting to see what
happens next. Imagine that, what are you going to make
up a dance for now? You know, I mean that
you know, TikTok people just seem to make up a
dance for everything, The make up a dance when they
leave the house, the makeup a dance when they clean
their teeth, the makeup dance when they go out at night.
What are people going to do with your time if

(01:02:09):
they lost TikTok? Anyway, Paul Steenhouse will tell us how
he thinks this may all progress next year on News
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Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
You're with News Talks it being joining us now is
our tech commentator Paul steen House, Good morning morning. I
am really intrigued by what has happened overnight with tektok.
Of course, this is all to do with the law
that was signed in April that requires their Chinese owner
to sell the app to a non Chinese company by

(01:03:21):
January the nineteenth, will be banned in the United States. Overnight,
the US Court of Appeals they said, nap, We're not
going to overturn the law. So what does tektok do now?

Speaker 8 (01:03:32):
Well, they have done a lot actually leading up to
this point. They say that they've been working with all
of the US government departments and regulators and all of
that good stuff, and they don't think it should have
got to this point. They've also actually separated all of
their data outside of China, so they say that all
of the data that US users, that they have about

(01:03:54):
US users is in the United States. So they say, hey,
just because we are owned by a Chinese company does
not mean that we are doing anything nefarious.

Speaker 5 (01:04:06):
They say that this is an app that.

Speaker 8 (01:04:08):
Should be able to be used by anyone. Of course,
the US says a little differently. And one of the
things that the Court actually said was that it was
the fact that there was extensive bipartisan action by both
Congress and successive presidents that led them to side with
the US government say no, TikTok, you will be banned.

(01:04:30):
Next step is going to be the Supreme Court. And
the big argument that TikTok is making is that this
is a matter of free speech.

Speaker 15 (01:04:39):
Interesting.

Speaker 8 (01:04:40):
I heard you joke before about dancers, So is it
also about free dancers. It's going to be interesting, right,
because free speech at the moment has a re over here,
has a reasonably well understood definition, and so this will
be testing that definition to see if free speech also
applies to an app. And it's worth pointing out, actually

(01:05:02):
that I think that when this law was passed, TikTok
was the absolutely and there really wasn't anywhere else to
go and watch those kinds of videos. Right. A lot's
changed since then, and a lot has changed because of
that law too. Instagram reels has I've put a lot
of time and effort into promoting Instagram reels, and they
say now that thirty seven percent of all the Instagram

(01:05:24):
users use reels daily. Now that would not have been
the case when this law was signed. And about fifty
percent of the time that people spend on the Instagram
app is with reels, so reels has real traction. So
I think that if TikTok was to go away, it
would have left a big hole previously, that hole may
not be quite as large in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Paul, why doesn't China allow TikTok there? Oh no, it
does allow it better it does, Okay, no, it does.

Speaker 8 (01:05:50):
Yeah, But but what the US government has said that
they don't want the data. They previously said they don't
want data stored in China. The big fear is that
the data of the US users can be used in
nefarious ways, like deelicious ways, and they have had some
really bizarre instances of things where you know, if your
phone knows where you are and you've given your location

(01:06:12):
access to the TikTok app, they then may be able
to see things like where clusters of people are that
maybe they aren't supposed to be, maybe they're in a
secret location that they don't want them to know about.
It's that type of thing I think that they're kind
of concerned about.

Speaker 2 (01:06:29):
All Right, So we're gonna we're going to head back
to calls on this one, aren't we.

Speaker 8 (01:06:32):
Yeah, fact, well not just the court those it's a
Preme Courts two, which will which I mean, that's the
last place they can go. And then what they'll potentially
you'll visit the app store and the app won't be there,
or you'll visit TikTok dot com and there'll be I
don't know, there'd be a black screen, a blue screen.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
I don't know what's going to happen.

Speaker 5 (01:06:50):
We haven't seen this before.

Speaker 2 (01:06:51):
Well, while we wait and wonder, we can just enjoy
accurate predictions of the weather thanks to AI.

Speaker 8 (01:06:57):
Yeah, so you know, it used to be the minds
of you know, the weather forecasters who were telling us
what the weather was going to be doing. But AI's
changing all of that big time. A Google company called DeepMind.
They've basically taking all the AI things that are happening
and trying to find applications for them, and they have
managed to create very accurate fifteen day weather forecasts. So

(01:07:21):
over here at least anyway ten days typically the one
that you look at is the longest one. And when
you start getting around to that eight nine, ten day
market's not very accurate. AI is generating fifteen day forecasts
that are accurate, and they're actually creating those in minutes
rather than the current process that takes hours with a supercomputer.

(01:07:43):
And here's the bit that's kind of scary. One of
the senior researchers at this company. It's like we've made
decades worth of improvements in one years.

Speaker 2 (01:07:52):
Goodness me, incredible, Thank you so much, Paul, really good
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Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
Be it is time to talk money and joining me
now as Ed mcnight economist at Opie's Partners.

Speaker 4 (01:08:16):
Good Morning Ed, francis great to speak to you.

Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
You've got a lovely topic today, and when I think
that sort of fits the time of the year, you're
talking about the best way to give back.

Speaker 9 (01:08:29):
Yeah, it was quite funny because I ran into GM
Street the other day, who actually listens to this show,
and I said, I'm to go talk to Francisca. What
should I talk about? And he said, well, after you
have made a bit of money and you're financially secure,
what are some of the best ways to give back
and how much should you give back? No, so, what
a great topic, and it just made me think of

(01:08:50):
all the community organizations, the charities are not for profits
that had helped me.

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
Over the years.

Speaker 9 (01:08:57):
So I'm going to ask you this question in a second, Francisco,
about what those organizations are. But for me, I grew
up in Tahlanaki and the TESP Bank Community Trial they
paid for all of the computers in the primary school.
And then I was lucky enough to get some scholarships
to high school and the university, and you know, somebody
donated money so that I could get a bit of

(01:09:17):
a head start and education. I just thought, wow, there
are those aren't the only three examples, but there are
so many organizations, charities, of the profits, community organizations that
help all of us. And it just don't get thinking, oh,
maybe I should get back. I mean, are there are
any examples of charities that might have helped you over
your life?

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
I am trying to think about that. I know that
I have definitely given to charities which we might have
a personal connection to so for example, if my children
have been affected by something, or so our philosophy was,
because you know, you can be a little bit overwhelmed
with people asking you to contribute our philosophy and our
family was. You pick a charity a year and used

(01:09:57):
to cut that and as a family, we used to
sit and talk about it. And it could be, you know,
would often be so varied. It might be once, as
I mentioned something which we've been affected by all someone
in our family or a friend has been or it
could just be something really random that my kids came
up with it they wanted to support, and then you
contributed to that one, and then you picked a new

(01:10:18):
one the next year, and then you felt like you
were contributing, but it didn't become an overwhelming financial pressure.

Speaker 9 (01:10:26):
Well, I think that's a really good thing to involve
your kids with as well, so that they're thinking about
giving back over time. And I agree that it can
feel a little bit overwhelming to just respond to everybody
who's always asking.

Speaker 4 (01:10:40):
For money, because the rare resource.

Speaker 9 (01:10:42):
And charities are not for profits is always money, and
so they're always looking for more of it. And it's
totally understandable, but I agree that it's probably a better
idea to pick a couple of charities with U. It's
one year or one that you follow or two that
you follow over time and give them so you can
actually become quite involved. One of the really good things
about donating to charities and community organizations is you can

(01:11:07):
start to feel like you're part of a community, whether
it's just you're part of a group of people who
are donating, perhaps you get invited along to some sort
of think your event, or there's somebody at that organization
that you talk to. Now, in terms of how much
should you be getting to charity, of course, the answer
is how long is a piece of strength. But the

(01:11:27):
last thing about it is when you're very young, if
you're in your twenties, it's a bit harder to give
to charity because you're going to be on a low
income and you don't have a lot to spare. Once
you get into your thirties your forties, life gets a
little bit easier, but with mortgages and kids, it's still
pretty high. But I'd just say to people as you
get older, that's when donating becomes a bit easier. So

(01:11:49):
if you're in your twenties, said you're not able to
get a lot, that's totally understandable. But if you're in
your thirties, but just keep inviting it is to get
a bit older, it gets a bit easier. And that's
why you do see a lot of people who are
in their fifties, sixties, seventies who are incredibly generous with
charities because they pay their money and they feel it's
time to give back another little test year as well,
because you can kind of think of it as a

(01:12:10):
percentage of your income, and there's a whole hupit of
different people who sens about how much you should give.
But I kind of think, you know, one percent of
your architects income is probably a good starting point or
a good ballpark just to think about. So let's say
maybe you get a thousand dollars a week in your
bank account, you might think, oh, I'm going to give
ten dollars a week to a community organization, to charity

(01:12:33):
and not for profit whatever it happens to be.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
Ed mcnight, thank you so much for your time. Up
next road climb pass has us eating out of the garden,
but not from the veggie patch. His suggestions maybe a
little bit controversial. This morning. It is a five to
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Speaker 6 (01:12:54):
Good morning, Hey, very good morning to you. Frantisica would
be hungry.

Speaker 12 (01:12:59):
Yeah, yeah, no, do you know what I was?

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
I was, no, So I love to eat out of
my garden with the range of lettuces at the moment
providing beautiful fresh salads and spring onions, and the cucumbers
are taking off and the tomatoes are growing. And then
you've got some other suggestions for us, which I'm not
quite too sure whether I'm.

Speaker 22 (01:13:21):
Up for, to be honest with you, no, I know,
but I just I was going to talk about, you know,
what all these things do in your game, and these
creepy crawlies and slugs and snails and crabbed beetles and
who who grubb?

Speaker 6 (01:13:34):
I said to my who beetles are flying around? And know,
if you notice, if you're cooking at night and you've
got your light on in the kitchen, these huhu beetles
are literally smacking into your window. I always find it
really exciting, going bang crash, and there they come, you know.
And then I thought, you know what I should really
talk about that But then, of course, because I knew

(01:13:54):
you would be doing the gig today, I thought I'm
going to change this a little bit, because whoo beetles
they bite, by the way, if you pick them up,
it's really cool. But the point of course is that
if you talk about who beetles, everybody go says, what
about who grubs? And here we go. If we are
looking at our planet and we are having a hell

(01:14:16):
of a lot of cows and sheep everywhere, and meadows
and all that sort of stuff, and if we're looking
for alternative versions of protein MODI, we're eating whoo grubs
a long long time ago. And I thought i'd make
that point clear here on this particular program.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Look, I think if I was like the Wild the
Wild Foods Festival and Hockeyitecut, I think I'd be all
up for doing it. But I'm not sure I can
quite trust myself to go in the garden and give
myself a hooho grab or a snail and cook it
up myself. When it comes to the snails, you're just
talking about the general gun variety snail that's in our

(01:14:56):
backyards that we can cook up.

Speaker 6 (01:14:58):
Francisca, the French important wail from north from Africa, North Africa,
and they took it to Europe and they called it escargo.
That snail escaped to Belgium, to the Netherlands, to England,
to Italy and Spain and places like that, and a
lot of those local groups were eating those snails. Guess

(01:15:21):
what happened About one hundred and fifty years ago. People
arrived from Europe with their plants in their suitcases and
all that sort of stuff to New Zealand and introduced
that same snail into our TIUROA.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
Very well traveled species. How would you cook them? How
do you cook them?

Speaker 6 (01:15:41):
Well, it's very simple that don't forget people. If you
want to have a look at the website, there's a
complete if you like, treaty on how you eat them
and things like that. What I would do is you, first,
if you like, feed them something not plant material, but
something like stale bread, which means that their guts are

(01:16:03):
being cleansed by the stale bread, which are normally black,
will turn white after three or four days. That means
they're ready to cook. Then for fight, it's in boiling water,
not longer, otherwise they taste like rubber bands. What you
do then is you go to your medicine cabinet and
get the tweezes that you use for your eyebrows, and
you pull those things out of the shells, making sure

(01:16:25):
that you remember which body which is by now dead
and cooked almost belongs to which shell, if you like,
because later on in plating up that's quite important. Then
you put some garlic butter on the inner pan and
you quickly fry them for another three or four minutes,
no longer, otherwise they taste like garlic flavored rubber bands.

(01:16:46):
And then you can put those little bodies back into
the shell and basically plate them up with wonderful materials
like garlic and all sorts of other than pieces, and
you can actually eat that very simply and very wisely.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
The protein, I presume good protein.

Speaker 6 (01:17:03):
Yeah, it is absolutely brilliant protein.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Have you ever coocked up the hoho grabbers?

Speaker 9 (01:17:08):
One?

Speaker 6 (01:17:09):
Yes, I had. I had a team of a Dutch
group making a documentary, and I put them in the
pen basically in the in the in the in the
in the pen in the kitchen, and I forgot to
prick them. So what happens is inside the body everything
started to explode and puff it all ended up on

(01:17:30):
the ceiling, so I've had it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
Yeah, You've got to stop now. Thank you so much
for climing past. You painted a beautiful picture there. You're
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Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
Good to have you with us this morning on Saturday Mornings,
I'm Francisco Budkin filling in for Jack Tame. Jack is
preparing for fatherhood this morning. He's at an anti natal class,
which is very exciting a bit of a reality check
for him. Anyway, He'll be back with you next Saturday.
Our Mike Yardi is going to take us to the
Blue Penguin Colony in Oamaru. Who doesn't love a penguin?

(01:18:42):
Catherine has a fabulous book for f one fans, and
Estelle is going to give us her thoughts on the
new album from Kiwi band Corella, and we will of
course keep you up to date with what is happening
in the cricket Francisca right now though Kate Hall aka
Ethically Kate joins us to talk about her New Zealand

(01:19:02):
Made Food challenge that she set herself for the year.

Speaker 22 (01:19:06):
Good morning, Kate, have brin Jessica.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
So at the beginning of the year, I think you
spoke to Jack about this new challenge. It's not the
first time you've picked a challenge for the year, is it, Kate.

Speaker 23 (01:19:18):
No, I seemed like a challenge, and I kind of
I like the calendar year. I think, yeah, some people
poo poo the kind of New Year's resolutions, but I
kind of just pick a yeah, an annual challenge. I
find it is really helpful to yeah, do it in
the calendar year and to not think I want to
do it forever for my lifetime or go into it

(01:19:39):
with absolute but yeah, just to try it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
So why this year did you pick the New Zealand
Made Food Challenge?

Speaker 7 (01:19:46):
So?

Speaker 23 (01:19:46):
I thought, honestly, it was probably on the twenty ninth
of December. I really I am up for a challenge.
I'd like a change, and I thought it would be
good to around food, especially since I had heard just
so much from small food producers how much of a struggle.
I mean, it always is a struggle a small food producer,

(01:20:07):
but especially at the moment, and I've always tried to
buy produce and food as local as possible, but I
just kind of wanted to go that extra mile and
really really understand what we grow here in New Zealand,
what we have available to us, and what a diet
would look like without having access to international foods.

Speaker 2 (01:20:28):
Before we have a chat about what you have learned
from this challenge, just remind us again what the rules were.

Speaker 23 (01:20:34):
So the rules, I could still eat what was existing
in my pantry, so you know those kind of like
using up the soy sauce and things like that, because
that would have been wasteful if I just, you know,
throw that stuff out to start the challenge. I also
didn't want it to be a year of me losing friends,
so I decided that I wasn't about so if I

(01:20:56):
was invited over to someone's house for dinner, I could
eat whatever they served me. So yeah, I wasn't excluding
myself or creating kind of unfair demands on my friends
and family. And it was it was New Zealand made food,
so that doesn't necessarily mean grown, but I had a

(01:21:18):
strong emphasis on grown. So I tried as much as
possible for New Zealand grown too, but New Zealand made
was that absolute.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
So just how easy was this? It was?

Speaker 23 (01:21:30):
To be honest, it was easier than I thought in
some ways when you look around it almost it almost
felt like it was harder when I was doing kind
of more staunch, plastic free challenges. So it felt easier
to find New Zealand made food. But again it almost

(01:21:52):
sometimes felt too easy because of the labeling. It would
say made in New Zealand from local and important ingredients,
and I started to feel really kind of challenged about
the labeling and not act being able to know is this, yeah,
how much of this is actually New Zealand grown? And
it was very very vague, So I found that part

(01:22:14):
kind of hard, and that meant I kept a lot
to just eating, you know, kind of raw, not getting
raw foods, cooking them, but just the basics like vegetables
and meat and grains that I knew were grown here.
So yeah, the labeling was a big, big challenge, but
I think it's one of my favorite challenges I've done

(01:22:39):
so far. I've done a year of no new clothes
and minimalist challenges and things like that, but this has
really given me some good new habits going into twenty
twenty five and beyond to actually not just look at, okay,
where is my produce grown, which I think we're all
pretty good at in New Zealand when we're in the

(01:23:00):
produce section, but actually looking at our food and labeling too.
I really hope we get better that and there's more
laws around what people can put on their products. But
I've missed some foods like bananas and you know, like
black tea. We have one producer here in New Zealand,

(01:23:21):
but yeah, just things like that which are a bit
harder to find.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
I was going to ask whether it allowed for a
good variety in your in your diet.

Speaker 23 (01:23:29):
Yeah, I think at the start I was. I was
feeling the lack of variety. I missed rice a lot
because we don't have investigated people who have been attempting
to grow rice, which we can, but it's just the
machinery around the husking that rice to make it a
commercial and edible product. It's difficult, but maybe we'll get there.

(01:23:52):
So yeah, Keenwa, I really love and it's even better
for your body, it's even more nutritious. But I did
get a little bit sick of it. After Yeah, probably
after the sixth month, I was like, oh, how many
ways can I cook inga What about?

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
What about cost? Kate, did you notice any difference in
sort of what it cost you to eat?

Speaker 7 (01:24:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 23 (01:24:14):
That was a tricky one for me because I'm already celiac,
so I have to eat a gluten free diet. So
my food, you know, a loaf of bread for me
as a Celiac is you know, ten to twelve dollars
instead of I don't know what a normal of spread
costs these days of wheat four, but you know it's
maybe a third of that price, so it has hard

(01:24:36):
I know I can't do kind of exact comparison for
the everyday person, but I think, honestly, I don't think
it's as expensive as everyone thought it would be. Because
that was the first question. They're like, oh, you know,
it's all right for some who can afford it, But
I think because you then just say no to non
seasonal things. You know, you're not spending extravagant amounts on

(01:24:59):
a pineapple in June or you know, a punnet of
strawberries in July. You were just eating seas meaning it's
cheap in that season because there's an abundance of it,
So that also I think has connected me more to
the seasons and understanding. You know, like I got in
this veggie box from Misfit which is all Misfit kind

(01:25:21):
of vegetables directly from the farmers just yesterday some nectarines,
and I'm so excited for the stone fruit kind of season.
And I now really far more kind of associate different
seasons with those foods. And yeah, I really don't think.
I think it's quite a myth that New Zealand made
food is more expensive and just got to try it

(01:25:45):
and you'll see that actually it can mean that you're
saying no to a lot of those extra foods you're
thrown you're trolley without thinking.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
And Kate, was it time consuming challenge?

Speaker 23 (01:25:56):
Yeah, it was time consuming, mainly because the labels are
really hard to read. So at the satura the year,
at about seven am and a local supermarket opened, I
went to my bike to the supermarket and I just
spent probably an hour and a half just reading labels
and understanding what I could buy what was there. I

(01:26:18):
determined that a whole lot of rice crackers mainly made
in Thailand, so those out of the question and just yeah,
took that time. But I do these challenges so that
I can do that, you know, work and research up
front so other people can understand things too. So of
made a blog of over one hundred different New Zealand

(01:26:39):
made food producers and so hopefully you know, yeah again
this book that I've done this year, I've spent the
times that others don't have to to know that actually
it is possible with me, don't have to be absolute
about it. I actually need to confess all so that
I have bought some things like rice because several months

(01:27:01):
ago I felt pregnant and the first trimester was very
had with food. Even looking at vegetables was yeah, ad
bots make gag reflexes. So I had to be kind
on my body and though that actually I can keep
doing the challenge, but with a few little things thrown
in there, so that that's my commission.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
I'm not good on you for confessing it, but I
think everybody will totally forgive you for that. Kate, congratulations
on the pregnancy. Kate's blog is ethically Kate dot com.
If you want to go and have a read of
her challenge and also get the list of those New
Zealand food producers. It is sixteen past eleven travel.

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Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
Just before we get to travel, it is an absolutely
beautiful day in Wellington. But that's about the only good
news I have for you from the Basin Reserve. The
black Caps are our ninety seven four seven, of course
playing England there in the second test. Jasan pinealval with us.
Shortly to talk sport, but time to talk travel now.
Mike Yardley is with me.

Speaker 24 (01:28:08):
Good morning, Good morning, Francisco. I'm so depressed by the CREC.

Speaker 2 (01:28:12):
Yeah no, yes, just let's talk about penguins, because penguins
just make you feel good, right, yes, a feel good animal.
And in summertime it is a great time to enjoy
the penguin colony in Rrow.

Speaker 24 (01:28:26):
It is ground zero for flippand fun. I have to
say my first job in Radio Francisca was in AWMDUV
in the early nineties, so it's amazing to see how
that colony has really kicked on because when I was
there there were only about thirty breeding pears. Today these
hundreds of breeding pears, they've been busy breeding over the decades,

(01:28:49):
so that nightly penguin parade as the birds come home
from the sea is lavish and intimate. In the summer
months is peak season for the nightly parade because at
the moment I checked, therese over three hundred and fifty
penguins coming ashore right before you each night to return home.

(01:29:09):
So it's a really riveting encounter at sundown.

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
They did the blue penguins, aren't they. That's the smallest
penguin in the.

Speaker 24 (01:29:15):
World, little blue yep carara.

Speaker 4 (01:29:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
But this other wildlife there too.

Speaker 6 (01:29:19):
Isn't it?

Speaker 7 (01:29:20):
Well? There is.

Speaker 24 (01:29:21):
The really cool thing about the summer months for the
penguin parade is that as they scamper up the rocks
like nervous Nigel's, they have to generally navigate their way
around all sorts of bellowing fur seals who also sort
of park up hit the same site. So it's a
really cool little primal interaction. The seals do not eat
the penguins, I hasten to add and then just adjacent

(01:29:44):
to the penguin colony for a true dramatic spectacle. Sumter
Wharf is amazing. So this was like a Victorian era
wharf where a lot of our early frozen meat exports
were shipped off to the world. Nowadays it's a relic,
it's a deer. It's wharf, but it's been consumed by
the birds. So there are thousands of Otago shags that

(01:30:06):
have commentared the wharf. They've been busy breeding. There's lots
of chicks in their nests on the wharf at the moment.
It's the world's biggest Otago shag colony. It is a
chagathon of epic proportions.

Speaker 2 (01:30:20):
Whenever I think of Armora as well, I think of
the Victorian buildings there, those amazing historic buildings made out
of limestone.

Speaker 24 (01:30:29):
Yeah that's right. Yeah, you've got those gorgeous old stately
banks in the Opera House on Thames Street. And then
just around the corner on harborst Street. That is the
heart of the Victorian precinct because Harbor Street is home
to New Zealand's best preserved Victorian commercial streetscape brilliantly restored
and repurposed, so it just brims with galleries and artisans

(01:30:50):
on hospit. My favorite stops, I have to say, do
involve drinking, so there is surprise. There is the Craftwork Brewery,
which is a Belgian inspired the brewery really cool spot.
And then this stirring the hospitality treasure, the Criterion Hotel.
Now this pub has been pouring pint since the eighteen

(01:31:13):
seventies in the same building. It's been beautifully revitalized, really
elegantly furnished, and all of its storied history is sported
on the walls of the bar and the etery. The
etery itself is fabulous because it's just like a hymn
to the region's produce. I would suggest you whistle up
and Alps to Ocean platter, and that way you can

(01:31:35):
sample a bit of everything and wash it down with
a Criterion black Doris plum cider.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
Have you done the Alps to Alpine trail?

Speaker 24 (01:31:45):
Sorry, not the whole hog?

Speaker 2 (01:31:47):
No, No, I'm quite interested in that anyway, and that's
for another day.

Speaker 24 (01:31:51):
Anywhere else, I've got my trainer wheels on franchise.

Speaker 2 (01:31:56):
Anywhere else that you recommend to eat?

Speaker 24 (01:31:59):
A couple of coick tips from age fans are white
Stone cheese. The name will be very well known to
a lot of Kiwis because it's been a main day
of the New Zealand Premium cheese scene for about four decades.
It's globally, it claims this cheese company. I've got twenty
five varieties to nibble on and for the full glory experience,
the place to go is the white Stone Cheese Diner
in Deli. It's on Thames Street. You can whistle up

(01:32:21):
a high cheese as you do, and I have to
say it via double cream. Bree is unbeatable. One other
culinary rock star to add to your checklist. Riverstone, just
at the north of Olamado. Bevan Smith is still at
the helmet that kitchen on his parents' farm. All of
the produces hyper local because a lot of it comes
from the adjoining gardens. But it was really funny, Francesco.

(01:32:43):
A lot of locals said to me, they just go
to Riverstone to eat the cake.

Speaker 4 (01:32:47):
The cakes are so good.

Speaker 24 (01:32:49):
So I had to and I surrendered to a slice
of gooseberry and black currant shortcake with vanilla bean ice cream. God,
it was good.

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
Hey, was there anything else unique about.

Speaker 24 (01:33:06):
Well, it is Steampunk Headquarters. So the Victorian Precinct has
got this outfit called Steampunk HQ. It is wacky, it's whimsical,
it's eccentric. It starts with this full scale train engine
outside the front, spitting fire and billowing smoke, and then
inside you've got a museum of all sorts of weird

(01:33:26):
contraptions and bizarre machinery, lots of copper and flickering lights,
and out the back a whole lot of projects that
are in various stages of being steampunked. It's sort of
like a cross of industrial age, Victoriana and science fiction.
And in fact, their website's probably got the best piece
of advice steampunk must be experienced rather than explained.

Speaker 4 (01:33:50):
I think that's very you.

Speaker 2 (01:33:51):
I think that is so true. I think that is
very true. Hey, Mike just quickly got recommendations for places
to stay.

Speaker 24 (01:33:59):
I do love coming across a really distinctive accommodation experience
with a really good backstory. And oh my goodness, there
is this place I've just discovered called Cassanover House. So
it was built in eighteen sixty one. It's the oldest
stone house in the region and it's been impeccably restored.
They've spent about a million bucks doing it up. It

(01:34:20):
is just breathtaking. And the same people who renovated Cassanover
also renovated the Criterion Hotel, Katrina and Brenda the Fabulous.
It's like a masterclass in luxury heritage living. Absolutely, you've got.

Speaker 2 (01:34:34):
A book that place fantastic lovely to chat Mike, thank
you so much for all that. For more tips on
summer tripping in Oamaru, Mike's article is on the website
Newstalk ZIDB dot co dot mz Ford slash Lifestyle, Ford
slash Travel. It is twenty six past.

Speaker 1 (01:34:49):
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Speaker 7 (01:35:07):
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Is I think probably going to be another sure fight
hit from the man dubbed mister shake your shoulders. There
we go. Joining us now to talk sport is Jason Pine.
Of course, weekend sport coming up at midday, and let's
have a little look here. Where are we at Piney
where the black Caps are at one hundred and thirteen
for seven. So the morning hasn't quite They only started
at eleven, it's eleven thirty. Things haven't quite gone according

(01:36:05):
to play.

Speaker 13 (01:36:06):
Hasn't panned out as we'd hoped. Francesca, I think it's
fair to say you write a couple of wickets down
already this morning, including Tom Blundell. He's out for sixteen.
Well O'Rourke was in a Night Watchman, so they never
expect them to hang around for very long. But he's
out as well. You So one thirteen for seven, what
do they make to eighty? So it's still best part.

Speaker 5 (01:36:22):
Of one hundred and sixty hundred and seventy short.

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
This isn't test cricket. I should be sitting here bored.
I should be sitting here going I have nothing to
tell you, you know, I should be sitting here trying to
keep these people up to date, but actually have nothing
to say because we're just kind of, you know, gently
plodding on getting some runs. But no, it's all go.

Speaker 13 (01:36:39):
This is the generation we have created, the instant gratification generation.
Regardless of the color of the ball.

Speaker 5 (01:36:46):
Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 13 (01:36:46):
Test cricket used to be, you know, a game that
was played out sort of in quite long, extended periods.
I can't remember the last time we had a five
day Test. This one looks like it's hitting the same way.
It's already so far in advanced we feel, what seventeen
wickets in the Test match so far and we're only
half an hour into day two. As you say, if
they're still playing on Monday, it'll be a surprise.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
Hey, it's lovely to have you actually in the studio
with us, which must mean it's a footy weekend in Auckland.

Speaker 5 (01:37:12):
Game this afternoon, massive, this derby.

Speaker 13 (01:37:14):
It's going to be an absolute Bobby Dazzler out there
at Mount Smart this afternoon or Go Media Stadium. Twenty
six thousand people rammed in. You can't get a ticket Auckland.
They see you have quickly become this juggernaut of a
football team and a marketing exercise as well. We're not
a marketing exercise, but you know, just a marketing master
stroke Beavers doing it. Incredible really that twenty six thousand

(01:37:36):
people are turning up to watch a game between two
New Zealand Football clubs.

Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
Twenty six and fifty three, which is one more than
the last game. I love that stat. Are you surprised
by just how well you know this? This team has
launched itself both on the field and to be drawing
these crowds.

Speaker 5 (01:37:55):
Yep, absolutely no one expected it.

Speaker 2 (01:37:57):
I did it.

Speaker 4 (01:37:57):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
I didn't read the room on this. I thought it
would take them years to build an audience.

Speaker 13 (01:38:00):
Well, if you compare it to the last two teams
that came into the A League over the last four
or five seasons, Western United and mccar based out of
Melbourne and Sydney respectively, they got crowds initially of sort
of four or five thousand, and that's what that's where
it stayed. Here's Auckland, you know, sold out the first
game year, called a lot of RRR and rasumetas around
the first game, but it's been can continued. Thirteen thousand

(01:38:21):
turn out in the rain last week, the pouring rain
to watch them play twenty six this afternoon.

Speaker 5 (01:38:25):
On the field.

Speaker 13 (01:38:26):
It does help if you're winning, it helps people want
to jump on a bandwagon. But I get the feeling
that even even with and when they lose the old game,
people will still turn up because it's become this occasion.

Speaker 2 (01:38:35):
Is it evenly matched this afternoon? Of course we've got
Auckland FC currently top of the table, Wellington.

Speaker 5 (01:38:41):
Fourth at very even Ok. Yeah, there are two very
good defensive sides.

Speaker 13 (01:38:45):
So I get the feeling this one won't be a
sort of a five to four thriller, but it may
well be broken open by one of two things. A
moment of magic or a mistake. That's what happened in
the first RB and Wellington goalkeeping mistake broke the game open.
Auckland took advantage one at two nil.

Speaker 7 (01:38:59):
In the end.

Speaker 13 (01:39:00):
Yeah, there are so many there's so many layers to
this game this afternoon. The players know each other so well.
To New Zealand sides, there's nine hundred yellow Fever coming
to this game.

Speaker 5 (01:39:12):
You know.

Speaker 13 (01:39:12):
Wellington have been bringing games to Aukland for ages. They've
brought eighteen games here. Now for the first time they're
here is the Await team. This is going to be
an absolute.

Speaker 2 (01:39:21):
I love the way you described that, a moment of
magic or a mistake. It kind of sums up my life.
It's brilliant.

Speaker 13 (01:39:29):
Who's on the show today, we'll go inside both camps
with Costa Barbarusa, Sernando Pineke. After midday we're going to
be at the basin David Gower, one of the all
time greats of English cricket and to join us so
he'll be enjoying watching his countrymen take us apart. And
a bit later on Anna Grimaldi on the show param
gold Millis. She is an absolute diamond of a human being.
Can't wait to chet to her.

Speaker 5 (01:39:50):
After two she made me cry.

Speaker 2 (01:39:52):
I love who she did this just so much joy
in what she does.

Speaker 5 (01:39:55):
Right yep, yep, I love who too. Ye so chatting
to her today.

Speaker 2 (01:39:58):
Too brilliant, Thank you so much. Jason Pine will be
back in the studio at midday with Weekend Sport.

Speaker 1 (01:40:03):
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Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
It is time to talk books and I'm joined by
Katherine Rains. Good morning, Catherine, Morning, Francesca. David Baldacci has
a new book out.

Speaker 25 (01:40:23):
He does and this is this third in his Travis
Devine series and Travis has a very impressive background. He
served as an arranger, he's worked on Wall Street, and
he's currently what they probably term a fixer with Homeland Security.
And he's also because he's this kind of guy trying
to evade an assassin on his trail who's only known
as the Girl on the Train. And Travis is sent

(01:40:44):
to Seattle by his boss to for what seems a
very straightfall job helping the FBI escort a young girl,
a twelve year old named Betsy Odum to meeting with
her wealthy business man Danny Glass. And Glass is accused
of racketeering drug smuggling, and he awaits charges a trial
on multiple charges in Washington State, and he's seeking custody
of Betsy following the death of her peers in a

(01:41:06):
supposed drug overdose. And as Travis de dalves deeper, he
suspects our player around Betsy's parents' death. There's things that
don't add up, and what's Betsy's saying about what happened
really doesn't add up. And so what starts as a
really routine mission all of a sudden escalates into something
much darker and more dangerous, and he starts to uncover
this web of secrets, and it's an action packed story

(01:41:27):
with lots of twists and turns and an enormous dose
of tension. And it's a great page turning thriller.

Speaker 2 (01:41:32):
Okay. So if someone gave me this for Christmas and
I hadn't read the first two books, would it matter?

Speaker 25 (01:41:37):
No, it doesn't matter at all, and pick them up anywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:41:40):
Okay. Brilliant. Now, Matt Wyman, he has co written books
with some of the world's leading figures in sport, and
he has been embedded with the Mercedes IF one team
for twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four, and he
has new book out.

Speaker 25 (01:41:55):
He does so he after writing many of the books
that he did, and you know the research that he's done,
he's now very focused on the Mercedes AMG Patrona's IF
one team and he spends, as you said, a year
embedded with and he chronicles individual race weekends and story
with his time with the team's personnel.

Speaker 17 (01:42:12):
And he packs.

Speaker 25 (01:42:14):
Mercedes at a time where they had won eight Constructors
Championships and that ended for them in twenty twenty one,
and so this book covers a period when the winning's
over and Mercedes are really on the back foot, and
he talks about their culture and determination and that resilience
of the team. And the first sort of chapter includes
a lot of scene setting and background information about the
team and the support of F one, and I felt

(01:42:34):
like the book was targeted at a much wider audience
than just F one of Fersonalitio. So probably all of
us that watch Drive to Survive on Netflix would be
this is the perfect kind of book. And it's told,
as I mentioned before, the backdrop of those races across
that season and focusing on the individuals and their particular
roles in the team. So he talks to mechanics and

(01:42:55):
engineers and strategist and the pit crew and majastics and
pr folks, and then he also talks to Total Wolf,
who's the principal of the team, and he captures all
of those personalities and what's really interesting is some of
the personal crowns of the people on the team and
the passions and why they're in F one. And so
with the interviews with people like the team principal Toto Wolf,
and the drivers George Rushall and Lewis Hamilton, and yeah,

(01:43:17):
really interesting tales. And also included in this was Hamilton's
surprise move to decide to design for Ferrari, and so
it's covered in lots of detail from both Hamilton.

Speaker 2 (01:43:27):
And Wolf's right up to date, right.

Speaker 25 (01:43:29):
Up to date. And yeah, it's written really well, and
you feel like you have not part of the team,
but you know part of the inside knowledge of how
the team works because previously, before really Drive to Survive,
these teams were very private. So actually you find a
lot of information and a lot of things that you
wouldn't necessarily get to see or hear about. And you

(01:43:50):
know how things work and what goes on behind an
F one team.

Speaker 2 (01:43:53):
Yes, and if you're an F one aficionado like my
sixteen year old daughter is, then she will tell you
that you don't really get the full story watching Drive
to Survive.

Speaker 11 (01:44:02):
So no, you don't know, No, you don't.

Speaker 17 (01:44:05):
So this has a lot of the the scenes thing.

Speaker 25 (01:44:07):
You know, how the driver testing works and the simulators
and all that sort of stuff. So because you're a
little bit more insight than yeah, Drive to Survive, if one.

Speaker 2 (01:44:13):
Does brilliant, Thank you so much, Catherine. Are those two
books that Catherine mentioned there to Die For by David
Baldacci And also I must mention that he is actually
coming to New Zealand. He is doing one public event.
It is on Thursday, the thirtieth of January. It is
happening in Auckland. It has been presented by the Auckland Writers' Festival.

(01:44:36):
So if you are a fan of David's gripping suspense
novels and taught legal thrillers, you might want to come
and see him in person. So as I mentioned, that
event is on Thursday the thirtieth of January twenty twenty
five and you can get your tickets from Ticketmaster, dot
co dot NZ. The other book that Catherine mentioned there
was Inside Mercedes if One by Matt Wyman. It is

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Speaker 2 (01:45:42):
I am loving the vocals here. This is all there is.
This is a new song by Corella. It is off
their brand new album they've just released, Skeletons and to
tell me what you thinks of it. We're joined by
Estelle Clifford. Good morning, Francesca.

Speaker 27 (01:45:58):
Isn't that just a beautiful Always jealous of people who
can just stram the guitar so beautifully and then they
wire across it. You're like just falling in love with
those vocals and him as he sings, and Corella are
really really good at that kind of thing, that simple,
beautiful melody, and then suddenly all those layers you hear

(01:46:19):
underneath it with a percussion, like the whole this whole
album has got really great production, and then some are
really you know that paired that kind of beautiful singing,
and then suddenly you've got like the full horn section.

Speaker 2 (01:46:32):
There all go yeah yeah, bringing in that first of
all vibe.

Speaker 27 (01:46:36):
And I think when you can sing, that's the bid a, Like,
that's the bit that's going to capture everybody. If you've
got great vocals, then I reckon you're you're gonna draw
people into your to your album what you've got going on.

Speaker 2 (01:46:46):
Absolutely well, that totally got me there. Yeah, But I
think that's also great to know because I think we
people might be more familiar with some of the more upbeat,
full on tracks.

Speaker 27 (01:46:56):
Absolutely yeah, and they're on this album Skeletons covers all
of that, and it starts with that. You know, you've
got those big, huge summer big horn set and then
the big percussion comes in and all the voices singing
at once. So they've got that reggae dub soul funk
kind of thing going on where you can party and

(01:47:16):
dance along. But I sort of think they've also got
this awesome set in their album where you know those
bits where everyone just needs to take a little bit
of a quiet moment and love each other.

Speaker 2 (01:47:25):
Hey, tell me a little bit about these guys. I'm
not usually familiar with them.

Speaker 27 (01:47:29):
Yeah, So Peepee pharo Rawer and Tenaware they actually met
in the Royal New Zealand a navy so they're navy people.
I think Tenawere, if I'm correct, is still in the Navy.
So they actually started doing like a band that did
pub covers.

Speaker 17 (01:47:48):
So if you can.

Speaker 27 (01:47:49):
Master that and get everyone on the dance floor, I
reckon it's a great place to start. But they went
to one of the one Love festivals, and I think
that was the draw card for them, where they're like, actually,
we could probably start writing and creating our own music
and get up on that stage. Like a cool background
to have doing those bands that go and through the
pubs and stuff and make everyone happy. But then to

(01:48:10):
start believing in yourself and writing your own music and
your own stories. That was the instigator I think for
them at the One Love Festival, and then pretty much
over the last three years they have just been working, working, working,
working to really solidify what their sound is. They won
a couple of awards at the Alteredler Music Awards.

Speaker 2 (01:48:34):
Was that last.

Speaker 27 (01:48:34):
Year, I think it was an't it?

Speaker 1 (01:48:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 27 (01:48:38):
Yeah, So they won for one of their big singles,
blue Eyed Mardy beautiful song and really great and also
with that Slight Mardi Humor, and then also one of
the Breakthrough Artist Awards. So that sort of helps write
catapult you. And I've heard a few interviews with them
where they're like, well, this is the bit to remind
you that all that hard Mahi, all that hard work

(01:48:58):
does pay off, because suddenly you're starting to get recognition for.

Speaker 6 (01:49:01):
What you do.

Speaker 27 (01:49:02):
But it also gives you that fizz to be like, yeah,
let's keep working and creating more. And I think what
they've done with this album is really played and discovered
more of what their sound can be. I mean, it's
all extremely talented musicians, so they can probably do whatever
they want to be fair, but really sticking with that cool,

(01:49:22):
summer festival, fun, upbeat kind of vibe. There's a bit
of probably a political social commentary in some of the songs.
One's called Cookie. I was listening to it being like, Wow,
Cookie's really getting his beans, and then I realized they're
talking about Captain Cook. So we've all got our version
of history and how to tell that story. But it's

(01:49:44):
a really really catchy song and I liked it, but
I think there's, yeah, it's an interesting one to listen
to it. There's also a song called two Chuur, and
I figure that if someone can sing I'm too sexy,
then why can't you sing I'm too.

Speaker 17 (01:49:59):
Chuur to chur?

Speaker 27 (01:50:03):
It's so good, Like there's those beautiful Kiwi loquialisms. They're
just beautiful that you find on this album, and it
made me laugh and smile, and I'm like, that's the
wonderful thing that music can do as well as celebrating,
you know, a really upbeat kind of vibe about someone.

Speaker 2 (01:50:18):
Still, this is the second album, isn't it? Yeah, it is,
so you've seen quite a step up. Do you think
between that first and second album?

Speaker 27 (01:50:25):
I think someone do you know what I think it
is is confidence in what you're writing. That's often the
change that I think happens to people across their albums.
They start with something and it's beautiful and it's nice.
But I think that evolution and the hard work is going. Actually,
we can push that further. We can add more layers here,
We can use our vocals differently, we can write our

(01:50:48):
stories from our perspective, and that's what people follow artists for,
right to hear their version of something. Doesn't necessarily have
to be your version of something, but we can all
learn from there and grow. And I think as artists
that's really nice to hear them have that confidence to
do that too.

Speaker 2 (01:51:05):
Why does the whole reggae things sort of resonate so
much in New Zealand?

Speaker 27 (01:51:10):
It's really interesting because we have a real do you know.
I think we just all actually really love saying a
brass and horn section. It's pretty sexy when someone's up
there with the trump today.

Speaker 17 (01:51:20):
Maybe there's a bit of that.

Speaker 27 (01:51:21):
I think it has a positive, fun sound I think
culturally it's something that we can really embrace. We all
obviously like to shake our booty a little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:51:31):
Yeah, this just suits the vibe.

Speaker 17 (01:51:34):
It does, I think.

Speaker 27 (01:51:34):
And it also you know a lot of our musicians
do have a background in jazz and soul, and I
think that's part of an evolution of that music working
together good musicianship, right, absolutely, because those are the foundations
to being able to play any chord, being able to
push your vocals, play with your voice, play with your instruments.
Those foundations, you know, then open you up to stuff

(01:51:57):
and there's kind of you know, on this album, there
is that reggae thing. They've gone a bit pop. Sometimes
there's a bit of rock, and I think again, if
you've got those foundations, they kind of work together. And
also there's just something beautiful about positive, happy sounding music.

Speaker 2 (01:52:11):
Wrap it up for me, what we're going to rate
the number?

Speaker 27 (01:52:14):
Oh this is so hard for me, Francesca, this is
the hardest burd of anyone who as opposed to us
talking everybody up supporting Lab across their summer tour nine shows.
I think you're gonna love this album. I'm just gonna
go with a ten out of ten for beautiful sounds
and voices amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:52:31):
Thank you so much, Estelle. I always love Estelle's positivity
around these things. We're going to play a little bit
more from Corella after the break. It is eight to twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:52:43):
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Speaker 2 (01:52:54):
You look away for just one moment and then you
look back at the tally and England is batting. So
there we go, folks. Of course, Jason Pine will be back,
will be with you in just a moment at midday
with weekendsports, so he will keep you abreast of everything
which is happening between the black Cats and England. But yes,
the black Cats bashing innings is over and England is

(01:53:17):
now at the crease. Okay. Thank you so much to
Libby for producing the show. Thank you so much for
joining us this morning. Please join me tomorrow on the
Sunday session. I have some deliciously dorky people on the
show tomorrow. That is their words, not mine. QI Trivia Podcast.
No such Thing as a Fish is one of the
biggest global podcasts. They've been going for ten years. They've

(01:53:38):
recorded over six hundred episodes, They've got half a billion listens.
They average about a million downloads a week. Okay, so
you get the picture. They're huge. And the podcast is
hosted by very four very smart, funny people, and two
of them are going to join me tomorrow and we're
going to talk about this. Whole podcast is based around
them sharing the most interesting facts that they've found that week,

(01:54:00):
so we're going to talk about where they find these
quite obscure facts at times, and the popularity of the show.
So they're going to be with me tomorrow on the
Sunday session after ten a m. It's a great podcast,
actually perfectly summer if you're going to do lots of
driving around the country with your family. Good for the
whole family.

Speaker 11 (01:54:17):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:54:17):
We are going to finish up with some more music
from Corella. This is Skeletons. The album is self reviewed
with Skeletons enjoy, have a fabulous afternoon. I'll see you
back tomorrow at nine.

Speaker 11 (01:54:30):
Your Past Virgin, every much Duster they didn't go there
on this night again be the ones. If you want

(01:54:58):
me to let me show you what genever had the
word manka.

Speaker 1 (01:55:06):
Do they never made you?

Speaker 3 (01:55:09):
Come?

Speaker 11 (01:55:10):
Come baby, Come, Come, Come, B become come.

Speaker 7 (01:55:15):
The B.

Speaker 11 (01:55:16):
I can be the one one TB one one one,
TV one one.

Speaker 10 (01:55:25):
Send your armies. I will fight that one. By your
pass me hard you but fight that.

Speaker 11 (01:55:39):
Skeletons in the closet, don't scurvy.

Speaker 7 (01:55:43):
No.

Speaker 10 (01:55:43):
Every ghost of your past can virgin every ex amount
of spot.

Speaker 11 (01:55:49):
Don't sturve me. Nope. If they didn't see go, they
don't do. The skeletons in the closet.

Speaker 10 (01:55:57):
Don't scurvy No, every ghost of your past and virgi
the reaxing.

Speaker 11 (01:56:03):
Mount of spot, don't scurvy.

Speaker 7 (01:56:05):
No, he didn't.

Speaker 10 (01:56:12):
No, no, no.

Speaker 3 (01:56:19):
No, no no.

Speaker 1 (01:56:26):
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