Full Show Podcast: 20 July 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:45):
What in New Zealand? Good morning, Welcome to news doorgs EDB.
Jacktamee with you through the midday today. So this time
next week, at exactly this time next week when we
are speaking this time next week, the opening ceremony of
the twenty twenty four Olympic Games will just have finished.
And this morning on Newstalks EDB, we want to get

(01:06):
you prepared for the Olympic Game. So how are we
doing it? Well, very simply, we're doing it with nutrition
before ten o'clock, the kind of nutrition to get you
in optimal shape for the games. That is, of course,
an apple and BlackBerry sheep pancake. Yes, cake is the
kind of nutrition you will need to prepare for these games.
And then after ten o'clock this morning. Really really looking

(01:27):
forward to this, Dame Valerie Adams is with us in studio.
Get this. This will be the first Olympic Games since
the Sydney Olympics that Dame Bell is not competing, So
this is the first time since the Sydney Olympics in
the year two thousand that Dame Bell is not going
to be throwing a shot put. So she's gonna be

(01:49):
with us in studio as she prepares to fly out
for Paris. Right now it is eight minutes past nine
Jeck team. Apart from my beautiful wife, of course, the
last person I thought of before I dozed off last
night was Dave Day had texted me a few hours
earlier when I was filling in for Heather on Newstork's

(02:10):
dB Drive yesterday afternoon, to say that he'd been driving
home from Livin to Palmerston North when he had stopped
off to fill up the car with petrol and he
had encountered a bit of a problem. Dave explained that
he'd filled the tank, but as he walked over to
the foyer and tried to transfer money between his bank
accounts in order to pay for his petrol, his internet

(02:32):
banking wouldn't work, so there he was stranded waiting for
an enormous global technology outage to be sorted so that
he could transfer the cash, pay for his fuel and
finally get back home. Although some of the tech outages
seemed to have been fixed, they are still affecting thousands

(02:54):
upon thousands of significant operations around the world this morning. Airports, airlines, hospitals,
emergency call centers, TV and radio stations, banks. Who's to
say Dave isn't still out there madly swiping at his phone,
refreshing a blank page on his Internet banking waiting, still waiting.

(03:17):
The outage, of course, was caused by this company, crowd Strike.
It's a cybersecurity company which is ironically charged with protecting
its clients. And there is no reporting at this stage
to suggest that this problem was caused by like a
malicious act or a cyber attack, anything like that. It's
just a plain old mistake, a plain old error, and

(03:39):
already some experts are describing it as the single largest
IT outage in history. Quote this is what Y two
K wishes it was, someone said on redit. Tell you what, though,
it is a salient reminder just how fragile and interconnected
many of our modern digital systems really are. A see.

(04:02):
I would describe myself as being kind of mid tier
when it comes to the uptake of technology. I'm not
a total yuppie. But I have a chat GPT account,
I back up my data on the cloud, I use
Apple Pay on my phone, and I absolutely abhor cash.
I hate cash notes, coins seriously. In twenty twenty four,

(04:27):
all of that clutter, Ugh, I want to go about
my business with the fewest things possible. I don't think
I've had a wallet that was actually capable of carrying
hard currency in at least fifteen years. But if the
last thing I thought of before I hit the hay
last night was poor old Dave, miserable in the dim

(04:49):
light of a living petrol station fore court, the first
thing I thought of this morning was how to avoid
Dave's predicament. On the way to the studio, I stopped
by an eightm and withdrew a few hundred dollars in cash,
not a crazy amount, just enough for a tank of gas.

(05:10):
Jack D ninety two ninety two is our text number.
If you're gonna fit me a text, don't forget the
standard text costs. Supply you can email me as well.
Jack at NEWSTALKZEDB dot co dot nz. Heaps of awesome
sport on at the moment, as well as the Olympics.
We're gonna be looking at the All Backs chances this
afternoon two thirty. This afternoon, of course, they are taking

(05:30):
on Fiji in San Diego, of all places. I was
scathing about this at first. I thought, Oh, for goodness sake,
this is just a this is just a grab for
a quick buck. I still think that, but I have
been persuaded to maybe temper my attitude just a little bit.
After all, the next Roby World Cup I think, has
been held in the US, so they're trying to drum
up a bit of support. And you can imagine that
the All Backs versus Fiji in the North American summer

(05:53):
is gonna hopefully mean some fast, free flowing rugby. Anyway,
we'll look at that very shortly. Right now, it is
thirteen minutes past nine. Kevin, Melon's gonna kick us off next.
I'm Jack Tame. This is news Dog's EDB A litle.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
Bit of way to kick off you weekend, then with
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Speaker 2 (06:14):
Here's some feedback. We can all agree with Jack. You're
a fool. Yeah, Cash is King Jack a great reminder,
you've always got to have access to cash, Jack, I
always have cash. I keep one hundred dollars in my
car just in case twenty dollar notes. And here's a
really good point from Hamish. One thing that's spun out
of the christ Church earthquakes was the need to hold
cash in the house. We now have two hundred dollars

(06:35):
to three hundred dollars stashed for such things. Thank you
for your feedback. Yeah, I mean that is just kind
of I don't know. It's not that I know that
I've been lazy necessarily, but I've just kind of taken
it for granted. I suppose. Yeah, but all of a sudden,
all you need is a quick check out outage, and
all of a sudden you're stuck right your strandard like
Dave and they live in petrol Station fore court, desperately

(06:58):
hoping that some technology on the other side of the
world is going to be upgraded sometime soon. Flip me
a text if you want. Ninety two ninety two is
our text this morning. Kevin Milne is with us. Kevin,
did you get hit by the outage at all?

Speaker 3 (07:11):
No, it wasn't.

Speaker 4 (07:12):
I was hit by a few red wines.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Actually very good. Nothing was slowing you down. It's actually
amazing just to look at all of the different businesses
it's affected. But keep in mind that this wasn't a
malicious attack, so somewhere there has probably been some human era,
and yet it's still able to cause, you know, incredible
disruption around the world. So you can only imagine, you know,

(07:35):
what might be possible if a more malicious actor is
able to get the hands or get access to this
kind of technology. Anyway, Kevin, this week, you've got a
great story about the late great Norm Hewit.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Yeah, it was said this week hearing of the passing
of a Norm Hewitt, former All Black, he crossed the
lives of a wide range of people. An amazing character,
of course, wasn't he an All Black sokker who could
win dance starts? Just unbelievable, remarkable. But I thought i'd
tell you my story. I was found watching my son

(08:08):
Jake playing rugby for Paraparomu College, and before the game started,
our lads noticed that Norm Hewitt appeared to be coaching
the other team. I think it was some pat silverstream
this unsevered outside of it. Then something surprising happened. Norm
leaves his side and wanders over to our team. To

(08:29):
our boys to light, he gives them a bit of
a pet talk. You could have heard a pin drop,
our lads clinging on every word. I can't remember who
won the game, but afterwards Norman came back over and
asked our lads that they'd be interested in his coming
over one afternoon a week for some coaching. The part
of Primu team couldn't believe it, and for the rest

(08:50):
of the season, Norm Hewitt would drive three quarters an
hour from the hut to Bata badah Umu to help
our players. I was mystified by all this, and one
day I asked Norm why seem to have switched allegiances.
He said the team he had been with wasn't particularly
interested in what he had to say. He put it
down to the fact that rugby that was compulsory at

(09:14):
the college involved. But he said the Paraperomu boys soaked
up his advice, so he changed scenes. My son was
probably the main beneficiary of Norm's coaching, because Jake, like Norm,
played hooker. Norman taught him all the dark arts. Actually,
I was a bit concerned about some of Norman's tactics.

(09:36):
It was all right for someone of Norm's muscle to
wind everyone up in the opposing front row, but I
didn't want my son to get flattened. Another thing from
the sideline, I started seeing Jake loudly talking to the
opposing hooker while he was trying to throw the ball
and putting him off. I thought that the opposing hooker
doesn't eventually take a swing at Jake, one of their

(09:59):
parents might. But it didn't happen for years after Jack.
Whenever I knocked into Norm, you'd asked me, has Jake
getten on? I'd say, well, nobody's knocked him out yet,
and we both have a good laugh. So near we
are normally who have gone at fifty five? What a
neat guy. Indolences to his wife Arlene and the fun out.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, it's a really lovely story, Kevin.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
I love that he passed on the dark arts because
I think can appreciate that there are a few dark
arts when it comes to rugby front rowse Absolutely.

Speaker 6 (10:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Can I just also just add that in my neighborhood
and Ramadi Beacher, we saw the passing of Michael Kenny
at just sixty during the week heavyweight boxing gold medalists
at the Auckland Commonwealth Games and nineteen ninety so condolences
to his wife Maria and the family.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Thank you so much, Kevin. You take here and we
will catch you again very soon. Kevin Milne there with
us this morning. Thank you for your messages. Jack. I
heard your comments regarding the IT outage. You say you
abhor hard cash. So what you say, So what you
say now, Jack? Well, I say that I went to
the EIGHTM on the way to work this morning. The

(11:19):
thing is, you know, I remember back to the christ
Church earthquakes and I was there the afternoon of the
christ Church earthquakes and obviously have family in christ Church
who were affected. And I think at that time it
was much more common to carry cash. I think it's
the era of being able to pay with your phone
that has marked a really significant transition, right And from

(11:42):
what I've seen, a lot of people were still able
to pay with their phones during this outage. However, it
was actually accessing internet banking which was causing some problems.
But yeah, I think there is a lot to be
said for having a little bit of cash on hand, Jack.
I recently had a card glitch. After I filled up
my car with gas to the two No. One hundred

(12:02):
and seventy dollars. I knew I had some cash at home, though,
and the attendant let me drive home and return with
the cash. How nice was that? Cash is still king? Yeah,
that is really nice. I wonder if you had to
leave your driver's license or your credit card or something
like that. Ninety two ninety two. If you've got some
thoughts this morning, that's our text number. It's just coming
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Speaker 5 (12:24):
Getting your weekends started.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
It's Saturday morning with Jack team on News TALKSB Jack.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
I missed what happened to Dave. Well, I don't know
what happened to Dave. If Dave's listening this morning, Dave,
for all we know, Dave could still be in that
petrol station four court and living tuned into News Talks.
He'd be waiting for updates, waiting for his online banking
to come back online. I suspect that he might have
been able to resolve that situation. I certainly hope he has.

(12:52):
But if Dave's listening, please Dave send us a TEXTA
this morning, Jack. I'm eighty years old. I worked in
a bank for twenty six years and I never carry cash.
Tell you what I'm going to from now on. It
was a bit of a worry last night, says Marie. Oh,
this is a good point. Donna reckons that she has
one hundred dollar note stash between her cell phone and
her cell phone case. So if you put it right

(13:13):
behind the hope behind the phone and you kind of
sandwich it in there, she says, that way you always
know you've got cash. But also by keeping it with
your phone, hopefully it's safe. And also it's not really obvious, right,
so hopefully no one's going to take it as well.
And that's a little tip there. Thank you. Dona ninety
two ninety two. If you want to send us a
message before ten o'clock this morning, two fantastic movies to
tell you about. Our film reviewer is going to be

(13:35):
here very shortly, but right now it's time to catch
up with our sporto. Andrew Saville, Good morning, sir, how
are you? Yeah? Very good things. Massive sporting weekend. We
had the Warriors last night, the All Blacks tonight, with
the Tour de France coming to an end, and the
Olympics in less than one week officially now. But let's
start off with the Warriors last night, and it was

(13:56):
one of those games you just felt like they had
to win. They got back in it after a terrible start,
and yet it wasn't to be.

Speaker 3 (14:04):
I thought, Gee, that's doing well to get back into
this game, because they looked dreadful at the start, but
also had that inevitable look about it. That noment of
what they did near the end. I don't think they
were going to win. I don't know how on Earth. Yes,
he's the backup goalkicker channel, but he missed a sitter
which would have leveled it at twenty or basically out

(14:25):
in front of the post or just to the left
from every left Kirker dragged across the face of the uprights.
Not great at that level. You should get those sorts
of goals ten times out of ten, and that would
have been twenty or would have probably gone to golden point.
And who knows what might have happened with the Warriors
or a little bit of wind in their sales. But

(14:47):
that sort of sums up this season and now they
sort of teetering and thin. It was seven rounds ago
they pretty much got to win every game or most
of those games to have a firm chance of making
the top eight. So after so much promise or bouts
of promised during the season, once again the Warriors are
looking for lifelines.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Yeah. Yeah, it's a real shame because I felt like
it just it felt like it was gone and then
it was bad and then it slipped away.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yeah, others themselves. Now I knew I've had a huge
g inury toll or an injury list at certain parts
of the season, but that often happens to them. So
they will wait and see what happens in the next
five or six weeks, whether or not they can make
the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Now now I have, I'll be the first of them.
I've been grumbling a fear bit about the All Blacks
playing in San Diego. I can understand a bit of
an argument about trying to drum up some excitement before
the next World Cup, But what do you reckon the
chances are that perhaps we're taking this game just a
little bit lightly then actually, in Southern California conditions, i e.

(15:49):
A very very hard pitch. Having six debutantes and a
lot of changes from those England tests means that actually,
maybe All Blacks are just a little bit vulnerable.

Speaker 5 (15:57):
Here, I think so.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
I think one of those games, remember what they say
during the week at the back of their minds, it
will be the little bit of little bit. Maybe the
Fijians won't put up too much of a fight late
in the game. Anyway, I think they'll stick with the
All Blacks for a while. And yes, a number of
new combinations in this All Black team, so you've got
to take that into consideration. The last thing, the absolute

(16:24):
last thing the All Blacks would want to happen today
is a loss. That would be shocking, to say the least.
But this coaching team, the new coaching gym, has had
to do this. They need to look at some of
these new faces before the Rugby Championship. They've got two
games against Argentina to begin with, so they can probably

(16:44):
tinker a little bit there as well. But I'm interested
to see him, intrigued to see how Ethan Blackadder and
Luke Jacobson go with Sadia and the loose. I'm also
intrigued to see how Billy Proctor, a man who's come
into this test squad with big raps on him and
he's played very well for the Hurricanes the last couple
of years. I'm looking forward to seeing how he goes

(17:06):
at It should be a lot more free flowing than
the England Test matches, that's for sure. It is an
evening game in San Diego, but it'll be warm, hard
and fast service. I think the stadium is actually part
of a university and holds about twenty five thirty thousand,
so it's not one of the big big venues on
the West Coast. Will it captivate the locals, probably not.

(17:29):
You'll get a lot of expats there, for sure, Its
Gems and New Zealanders. But if this is Rugby's latest
attempt to surge into America, I don't think it's taken
you know, one hundred odd years of people trying to
get it to take hold in the States. This ain't
going to change much, I suppose from a marketing point

(17:50):
of view and a financial point of view. Long term, look,
they would have probably made more money out of holding
a year. Yeah, But long term I can sort of
see what they're trying to do.

Speaker 7 (18:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:03):
So apparently I googled the small Fijian Americans and I
wrote this down. There are thirty two thousand Fijian Americans
and the whole US apparently, but although those numbers are
like ten years old, so maybe a few more than that,
And apparently seventy five percent of them live in California,
so there could be a good little turnout in Sacramento.

(18:24):
A bit of a trip, but.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, I think it's pat New Zealanders. As I mentioned. Also,
there's a massive obviously a massive Pacific Island community overall
in southern California, so i'd imagine you'd be disappointed of
the game doesn't sell out, but i'd imagine it'll be
a fairly decent crowd there. Look, I just echoed before

(18:45):
I go Kevin's thoughts this morning on two of our
most loved and outstanding sports with Michael Kenny. And of
course you are, Henry.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
Oh Save you're breaking up there. You were breaking up there.
But I know this is an important point you want
to make, So we'll see if you can just get
into a slightly clearer spot there, because yeah, I know
over the years you've spent a lot of time talking
to Norm Hewitt in particular, and that you have some
really fond memories of both of their performances. So we'll

(19:22):
see if we can pop you back up on the
line and you can give us your memories. There's going
to be really interesting for Dame Valerie Adams when she
is in Paris this time next week. She's got a
couple of official duties while she's over there. This year,
she does a lot of stuff in the athlete advocacy space.
But it's kind of peculiar, right. In previous Olympics, she

(19:42):
hasn't necessarily been able to go to the opening ceremony,
she hasn't necessarily been able to get into the whole
vibe of the village because, you know, because she's been
focused on her own performance. She's been focused on preparing
for her event. So this time around she can enjoy
the atmosphere that comes with the Olympics, although she's probably
going to be hankering for the track and wanting to

(20:05):
get out or chack and field and get out and
actually perform as well. You'll be watching that competition thinking, oh,
could I be out there. She's gonna be with us
after ten o'clock this morning and really looking forward to that.
Sav you're back. Sorry you both out there, but I
know it was an important point you wanted to make.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
So I don't think it's part of his it business. Lookye,
Michael Kenny passed away the last day or two. Great
memories of him and winning gold in the boxing in
nineteen ninety, captivated the nation at Auckland Calm Games, and
then morm Hewitt's passing as well. Normal always always a
great INDIVI. You always had something to say, a story
to tell on and off the field. One of those

(20:41):
unforgettable sort of war Blacks. And who can ever forget
that that heart er against England was Richard cockraw in
his face. So yeah, sad loss of two outstanding sportsmen
in the last few days.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Now, I've well said thanks v catch us soon Andrews
havevil our sport over there. Twenty eight to ten on
News Dog zb's Catch News talk Z be You with

(21:24):
Jack Tame this Saturday morning twenty five to ten. Adell
has actually announced that she's taking a break from music.
She has spent the last two years playing a weekend
residency in Las Vegas. Kitching two years in Las Vegas though,
come on, that's about a year three hundred and sixty
two days too long in Las Vegas if you're asking

(21:45):
me anyway, She says she misses her life from before
she became a major celebrity. She wants to pursue some
other creative outlets for a while, so she's just gonna
take a bit of a break, which is very nice.
Thank you for your feedback, Jack. Cash is also good
for budgeting, says Peter. It makes it easier to track
how much you've left and how much you've spent. If
you use f pozz all the time, In my opinion,

(22:06):
it's really easy to overspend. I think you're probably right
on that, Peter. Although the thing I find with cash
is if say I have fifty dollars, right, and then
I'm like, where am I going to spend this fifty dollars?
And the problem is that I find it really hard
to spend a total of fifty dollars. So I might
buy say I bought some groceries and they were thirty

(22:28):
two dollars sixty. Then I'm like, oh, that's really annoying
because I've got seventeen dollars forty left. What's seventeen dollars
forty And then I buy a coffee for five dollars
and I'm like, right, I got twelve dollars forty left.
What can I do with twelve dollars forty you know
what I mean? And so then I end up not
spending a few dollars or I then have to painfully
try and pay half in cash and then half with

(22:49):
a credit card, with an f poscard.

Speaker 8 (22:52):
Know.

Speaker 2 (22:52):
I'm all about convenience, Peter, and that's what got me
in a packle last night. Anyway, thanks to you for
you back ninety two ninety two. If you want to
send us a text. Our film reviewer is Francesca Rudkins.
She's here with us this morning. Killed her. Did you
get caught up in the crowd strike outages at all?

Speaker 6 (23:08):
No?

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Oh, that's good. I'm glad. I'm glad to hear. Yeah,
glad to hear.

Speaker 6 (23:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
I think a large slab of the world has so
there's nothing to be.

Speaker 9 (23:17):
I live a nice quiet life. I have a lovely
Sammies in the last night and watched Chalie Jacks the
whole wood and all have all revolved around me and I.

Speaker 6 (23:24):
Have no idea what was going on.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
Very good, Oh, very good, please to hear it. Okay,
two different films this morning. Let's start off by having
a little listen to a film that is showing in
cinemas at the moment. This is Horizon.

Speaker 7 (23:35):
These people think are toughness, smartness, I mean enough. Oh,
this will be there someday. Don't army of this earth.
It's going to stop those wagons coming.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
The dude, Kevin Karsner tell us about Horizon.

Speaker 9 (24:03):
Okay, this is Horizon, an American saga. Chapter one. Chapter
one is three hours and one minute long. Jai, there
are three more chapters potentially to come.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
I can tell you right now, I'm not going to Los.

Speaker 10 (24:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (24:18):
Well this is the problem. Okay. So this is a
Western chronicles the great migration West during the Civil War era.
In this first chapter, we meet a variety of characters
who all have their own storylines, but they seem to
be descending, sort of converging on this new settlement called Horizon,

(24:39):
which of course is not welcomed by the locals whatsoever.
A lot of set up in chapter one, a lot
of different storylines, as you mentioned. Directed by Kevin Costner.
He's put thirty eight million of his own money into
this film. He's funded the rest with the help of
two mystery investors and by selling off the sort of
the foreign rights to it. I will sit and watch

(25:02):
every minute of this because I love a Western, and
I'm really happy to sit back and let this all
play out in front of me. But it did occur
to me Jack that most people like you will go
I don't have three hours one minute plus trailers to
go and watch this film. So if you don't go
and watch the first film, you're not going to go

(25:24):
and watch the next three films at the movies. So
in my mind, I'm going, why is he releasing this
in cinemas? Why is he making this a film when
if you don't get people in to watch the first film,
no one's going to turn up and watch the reft.
It's going to be a huge flop. And of course
what has happened exactly that. So this first film is

(25:46):
playing in cinemas here in New Zealand. The second film
they have announced just this week, Chapter two, which also
costs one hundred million to make, that is going to
be pulled from cinema release and that is going to
go direct to videos somehow. So the crazy thing about
this is it looks wonderful. It's great storytelling. I as
I say, you know, I love a Western, and he

(26:08):
wanted to Capture the Yellowstone Crowd. So why didn't you
make this a TV show? It's going to be twelve
hours by the time it's finished. So I just wonder
whether a little bit of ego and I'm going to
make the Great American Western and it's going to be
twelve hours long and we're going to be talking about
this for decades. I wonder if just think a little
clouded there when essentially he could be potentially, you know,

(26:30):
making one of the best TV shows we've seen in ages. Anyway,
if you love a Western and you've got three hours
in one minute spare and you just want to go
and sit and watch, but you are probably committing yourself
to another, you know.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Yeah, another at minimum. Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay, all right
The Horizon. Okay, yeah, bit of a shame, all right,
that's Horizon starring Kevin Costner. Next up, something completely different.
This is also showing at the movies. Let's have a
listen to Fly Me to the Moon.

Speaker 5 (27:01):
Public support for the Moon mission is right off. The
space is a bloated man. Lassa needs a marketing specialist
and you are the very best.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Okay, this has got Channing Tatum and Scarlet Johansson, Yes,
Fabia's cast.

Speaker 9 (27:20):
I saw the trailer and I thought, this is a
little bit of may a fun romantic comedy, but a
little bit of depth because they've set it around a
historical event, so they've been quite clever with Apollo eleven's
trip to the Moon, the first moon landing. And I thought, great, perfect,
and look, this was really pleasant. Sunday afternoon doing I
went and saw it with Tim and Lola. We went
to the movies last Sunny afternon and it was great.

(27:41):
But unfortunately it didn't quite They didn't quite nail It
starts off great, lots of sassy lines. You've got Scarlet
Johnson who definitely keeps this film afloat. She's just gorgeous
as this sassy marketing hot shot who finds clever ways
of getting clients on board and also selling any anything.
And she brought in to help the NIXT administration brings

(28:02):
her into NASSA because they say, look, people are interested
in the eventnam more, no one is interested in the
strip to the Moon, and we need to sell the
strip to the Moon because we need the funding. So
she comes in and of course you know all the
very serious you know scientists that NASA, you know, do
not quite relate to the through sassy New Yorker and

(28:23):
Channel Tating plays the launch director, and they are, you know,
two quite different FeAs in the pod, but of course
both very good looking and there's some chemistry there, so
you kind of know where this is going to go.
And I said, start up at a hyen or finished
with a bit of humor, but it just lags in
the middle. So unfortunately it didn't quite become the you know,
the fabulous fun I thought might be. But interestingly, just

(28:46):
like The Fore Guy, another kind of romantic comedy that
was released earlier in the year with Emily Blunt and
Ryan Gosbin, this is also flopped at the box office,
so it only pulled in ten million in it because
Horizons flopped terribly. They pulled about ten million in on
opening weekend domestically, as has this film, as did The
Four Guy. So we don't seem to be heading to

(29:08):
romantic comedies at the moment. But a full on psychological
horror called Deep Legs, Long Legs.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
Long legs, right, long legs, legs, Yeah, long legs.

Speaker 9 (29:20):
Yeah, long Legs has absolutely absolutely blow on the box
office away. So who knows what the customer wants right now.
But this is kind of delightful if you do like
a romantic comedy and you want something light and pleasant.
As I say, it didn't quite sort the heights. I
was hoping that would, but it's still fun.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
Yeah, nice, Okay, thanks Franchesca. I appreciate that. That is
fly Me to the Moon. Francesca's first pick was Horizon.
That's someone with Kevin Costner will have the details for
both of those movies up on the news talks. He'd
be website Jack. We got a text from friends last
night before we knew about the IT outage, who were
in a bar in Broadbeach stray Are and said the
system went down, so drinks for free. We thought they

(29:57):
were joking, but they weren't. Yeah, how good. I would
use cash more, but the coins are far too heavy
and too far too bulky. They need to be made lighter,
as they have in some countries. We always keep at home,
says Shane. But I never carry cash. Yeah, that's I think.
Maybe that's a good. That's a good position to have, right,
cash at home, But not carrying cash is kind of understandable.
Ninety two ninety two is our text number if you

(30:18):
want to flick near message that delicious sounding apple and
BlackBerry sheep pancake recipe for you next.

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Speaker 2 (30:34):
Thirteen minutes to ten on newstalks 'b cook, Nicky Wicks
is here with us. Hey Niki, Hey, good morning Jack.
Before you get in today's into today's recipe, I just
wanted to share with you a bit of a shout
out from fellow friend of the show, regular contributor travel
corresponding Mike Yardley. He said he just wanted to say
shout out to you because he said, your self sourcing

(30:56):
citrus putting recipes from last week is utterly amazing. It
has been a huge smash it across the wider family
this week. So there you go.

Speaker 11 (31:03):
Fantastic.

Speaker 12 (31:04):
I love it.

Speaker 11 (31:04):
I have eaten so much of that last month.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Yeah, yeah, it's so good.

Speaker 11 (31:09):
Oh great, got on, I love it.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Good.

Speaker 6 (31:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Okay, let's please get to today's recipe and then we're
going to talk about an event later this week. But yeah,
this sounds amazing.

Speaker 13 (31:18):
Yeah, look, This is an apple and BlackBerry sheet cake,
and a sheet cake is really a sort of left
over It's almost a catering turn and a bit of
an American term as well, that you sort of make
these cakes on a large scale, on a huge, big
sheet pan.

Speaker 11 (31:31):
I've reduced this down to.

Speaker 13 (31:32):
A little Swiss rollton, which I love doing because these
cakes cook really really quickly, seventeen to twenty minutes and
it's done and yet it's still got a decent puff
on it, and then you can sort of cut them
into nice big square bits I think are really economical
or ergonomical to both fit in the lunchbox but.

Speaker 11 (31:49):
Also to eat.

Speaker 13 (31:50):
You get none of that you know, that nosing thin
bit at the end or anything like that, as you
do a wedge and it's delicious and it's utterly economical
as well, because it's really got flour, water, sugar, sugar, flour,
bit of yogurt, couple of eggs, bit of fruit. And
at this time of the year, fruit is a bit
of a challenge. Apples aren't at their best, so I
love to cook.

Speaker 11 (32:11):
They've come out of cock stores and I use just
some frozen blackberries, so it's great. Here's what you do.

Speaker 14 (32:16):
It's kind of weird, so hang it all right.

Speaker 13 (32:19):
Oven He goes on two hundred degrees not fan bakedicular
bake greas and line a shallow Swiss rollton. It's about
twenty times thirty centimeter triangle, and I line it with
a large piece of baking paper, and I kind of
twist the corners up so that the side sit up
a little bit. It's a good little trick to use.

Speaker 14 (32:36):
And then here you go.

Speaker 11 (32:36):
This is how it starts, which is so weird. In
a pot.

Speaker 13 (32:38):
You bring the butter and water to a boil, and
that's one hundred and fifty grams of butter, two thirds
of a cup of water. Bring that to the boil,
and then after that's boiled, stir in half a cup
of brown sugar and half a cup of white sugar,
and then followed by some dry ingredients one and a
half cups of flour. You could swift it if you like,
but you just make sure that a one teaspoon of

(32:59):
baking soda is kind of mixed in with that flour.
Pinch your salt, teaspoon of cinnamon. Sometimes kids don't like cinnamons.
You could leave it out, make a jot of difference, really,
but I love that with the apple, and you give
all that a really good stir, and then add in
and all of this is done with a spoon. No
beeders know anything. It's a one point wonder. Add in
a third of a cup of yogurt. If you don't

(33:19):
have yogurt, you sour cream. If you don't have sour green,
but you have cream frish great. If you don't have
any of those, put some lemon juice and some milk
and it'll work, okay, because you want that acidulation that
kind of works with the baking soda and gives it
our puff. Two medium eggs, you lightly whisk those first,
and then I chop up about two one and a
half maybe two apples I use Granny Smiths and half

(33:41):
a cup of frozen berries.

Speaker 11 (33:43):
Throw that through the batter, and then pour your batter
into the dish, into your lined tin.

Speaker 13 (33:48):
Bake it for seventeen to twenty minutes, and call it
for ten after that, and then I say, while it's warm, Jack,
which is unusual for a cake, but I think I know,
it kind of goes glossy and then it cracks a
little bit when.

Speaker 11 (34:01):
It cools down all what.

Speaker 5 (34:02):
I love that.

Speaker 11 (34:03):
I love that.

Speaker 13 (34:04):
Yeah, I just use the vanilla based ice, saying one
and a half cups of icing sugar. It's a thin
layer of icing sugar, one teaspoon of melted butter, two
teaspoons of vanilla extra and enough sort of hot water
to make it make sure it can kind of be
poured over.

Speaker 11 (34:16):
The cake and you're done. And it is great. And
I've eaten far too much of this one this week.

Speaker 7 (34:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Oh that sounds so good. Nice, Oh this is you'll
be happy that the wider Yardley family will be delighted.
Oh good, family, go for it. Hey, so you've got
an event this week later later this wee can bleed them.

Speaker 6 (34:35):
Yes, I have.

Speaker 11 (34:36):
So next Thursday, the Marlborough Book Festival starts.

Speaker 13 (34:40):
I arrive on Friday and I've got two sessions Saturday
and Sunday Friday night. I'm also part of the lineup
that does those sort of imprompt you without notes talks.

Speaker 11 (34:49):
I'm very nervous about that. Yeah, it should be great.

Speaker 13 (34:52):
Some great authors, Emily Perkins there, Rachel King, So McCauley. Fantastic,
just a fantastic line up there. So get your tickets
and I'd love to see that. I'll be talking about
what it's like to make a TV food show, all
the little stuff that goes on behind the scenes. Yes,
my Box, the Quiet, the Quiet Kitchen series, So yeah,

(35:13):
I can't wait.

Speaker 11 (35:13):
I love Marlborough.

Speaker 13 (35:14):
Yeah, absolutely beautiful in and around me Blenham or anywhere
in TEYNAMU get yourself.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Along, so good, Okay, thank you. Hey, I'm just because
I'm all about sharing the love. Jack. We can cur
the self sourcing citrus as it was utterly divine, says Gwen,
So so thank you. Hey, there you go. Look we're
just sharing the love this morning. Thank you so much. Nikki.
We're going to make sure that apple and BlackBerry sheet
pancake recipe is up on the news Talks. He'd be
website and Caroline is just like your notes, So Jack,
we can I find this amazing citrus self sourcing pudding

(35:44):
or the recipe. You can find that online as well,
Carolyn News Talks. He'd be dot co, dot ended Ford
slash Jack. So you find everything from our show there,
but you can also go back to last week's show
and find everything from last week's show, including that amazing recipe.
Marks is Jack or the power of the crowd strike
outage and the various complications people have had with money

(36:05):
over the last twenty For ours takes me back to
a time when we received our pay in cash on
a Thursday and a small brown envelope, then putting our
share into a jar for the week's bills and our flat. Yeah,
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Speaker 2 (36:31):
Be a lot of people feeling very vindicated. This morning
has to be said when it comes to having a
bit of cash. So I was fine, thankfully, I've been
fine so far. Touch would with the outages caused by
this IT problem. They've caused all sorts of issues around
the world. So banks have been affected, airlines, airports all

(36:54):
over the place. Some of the biggest companies in the
world have had really significant outages. You can only imagine
there will be hell to pay at this company, CrowdStrike.
Just imagine being the CEO of CrowdStrike yesterday. This is
this is the company that provides cybersecurity services via Microsoft
to various companies around the world. I mean, what an

(37:14):
absolute nightmare of a day. Now your company's being blamed
for the single largest IT outage in history. Only so
many times you can say sorry. I suspect there may
be some legal cases that follow all of this. Anyway,
Jack just proves cash is still king. I have a
safe full of cash for days like this. Thank you.

(37:37):
It's probably a good thing you're not sending your address
through with these kind of messages this morning as well.
But no, I've made my way to an ATM this
morning and have picked up a little bit of cash
just to get me through in case of another crisis.
After ten o'clock we will catch up with our texpert
this morning. He's going to give us the very latest
on this outage, what caused it, and how long it's

(37:58):
going to take until everything is back up and running again.
As well as that, I've got to tell you about
this amazing new BBC thriller that has just been released
In our screen Time segment. We always recommend new shows
to you and Tara, our screen time expert, has one.
She Reckons is fantastic THEPEBC Thrillers. I'll tell you about that. Plus,
of course, for the first time since the Sydney Olympics,

(38:20):
Dame Valerie Adams is not competing in Olympic Games. She's
of course won two gold medals, a silver, a bronze
and if she prepares for Paris twenty twenty four as
a fan. She's with us in studio. Cannot wait for that.
News is next. You're with Jack Tayme. It's Saturday morning
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Speaker 2 (39:12):
Good morning. You're Jactaime on Newstigs eDV and we are
exactly one week away from the twenty twenty four Olympic
Games in Paris. Kiwi athletes have been training, competing, pushing
hard to qualify for Team New Zealand, and one hundred
and ninety five athletes are currently making their way to France.

(39:33):
As someone who knows the feeling all too well, having
competed at a whopping five Olympic Games and one a
staggering two golds, a silver and a bronze medal in
the shop put as Dame Valerie Adams this year, though
she's not competing, although she's preparing to head to Paris
in her new advocacy role. Dame val is with us
in studio Keilder. Good morning, Calder.

Speaker 15 (39:53):
How's it going?

Speaker 2 (39:54):
Very good things.

Speaker 16 (39:54):
It's good to see you, Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
What is it like preparing for your first Olympic Games
in more than twenty years in which you don't actually
have to compete.

Speaker 15 (40:06):
It's a little bit different. I think the stress levels
are a bit different, and it's different stresses now. You know,
before it was a performance higher training pretty much at
the cliff edge, you know, kind of aiming for that
one centimeter at a time type of thing, where now
it's a different type of stress, you know, preparing presentations
for council meetings and you know, traveling and all the
rest of it. So it's it's good in one sense,

(40:29):
and then the other sense, it's it's a stressful as
well because it is a different role. Yeah, but at
the same time, looking forward to go and enjoy the
games from a spectator's point of view.

Speaker 2 (40:41):
As a post of competing, that must be so nice. Yeah, yeah, actually,
because I think I don't know if it was real
where it was, but I think I spoke to it
at games once and and see, like, do you actually
watch the game certainly before your event? Yeah? Yeah, never never, yeah,
And so like for you it's going to become a
novel experience actually just watching the Olympics.

Speaker 15 (41:01):
Yeah, absolutely, like watching the whole day if I wanted to,
and sitting there and getting tired and all the rest
of it whilst enjoying the games.

Speaker 16 (41:07):
But you don't watch it.

Speaker 15 (41:09):
You're focus on your event, and that is that you
don't know what anybody else is doing, because that's just
the whole that's.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Just the way it is.

Speaker 15 (41:14):
Where now it's like you can actually pick who you
want to watch and who you want to follow, and
get up at three o'clock in the morning before you
actually shoot out, but go into Paris all the rest
of it.

Speaker 16 (41:22):
But it's going to be great.

Speaker 15 (41:23):
I think, you know, this is going to be a
games to remember after what happened in Tokyo, so globally,
I think it's going to pretty much uplift everybody.

Speaker 16 (41:33):
I hope. So I mean, I hope, But that's the aim, right,
is it?

Speaker 12 (41:36):
One?

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Of the things I love about the Olympics is I
get really intensely into sports that I don't necessarily follow
for like three years and nine months, you know, and
then all of a sudden I've become like an expert
on diving or whatever.

Speaker 11 (41:48):
Else.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Are these sports that you are really excited about seeing that?

Speaker 15 (41:51):
Isn't that a typical journalist? Particular sports that I'm looking
forward to. I'm I really enjoy basketball joining the Olympic
Games because it's quite you know, it's quite intense, but
in a different way. I love three yeah, absolutely, But
then I do like things like gymnastics, you know, because
it's so such a novelty. We don't even really have

(42:13):
it here in New Zealand and obviously following the New
Zealand crew. But all in all, I think it's going
to be a very different games, right because there's so
many villages that they have to and countries, not just
in France. You know, you've got Tahiti putting up surfing,
so it's very unique and it's very French.

Speaker 2 (42:31):
How do you think about breakdancing?

Speaker 16 (42:35):
Listen?

Speaker 15 (42:36):
Breakdancing They take some skill and take some work and
it is quite competitive. I mean, but you know, it's
quite hard to judge or to you know, get a
winner out of it.

Speaker 2 (42:46):
I think, you know, I'm a real.

Speaker 16 (42:51):
Uh you know, old school when it comes to the Olympics.

Speaker 15 (42:53):
But equally, I know that we have to move with
the times, especially with the youngsters coming through, So you
have to be open minded and be a bit more
have a mind. That's a bit towards the innovation way
because within athletics we're trying to do the same thing
to get more viewers and spectators on board, especially from
a broadcasting point of view.

Speaker 16 (43:11):
You talk to us about that.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
How is athletics kind of moving with the times a
little bit?

Speaker 15 (43:15):
Yeah, I mean, you know, we introduce things like the
mixed relay, you know, very unique events, and you have
like the relay Champs over and the Bahamas and all
the rest of the whole idea for us is actually
how do you grow the sport globally and how do
you get more participants. Also, research shows that for example, throws,
for example, there is a massive drop in viewership.

Speaker 16 (43:35):
So from a from a sporting point of view.

Speaker 15 (43:37):
We actually have to look at this and that's why
it's because you know, female throws is a lot less
interesting than male male throwers.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
How do we change that?

Speaker 15 (43:45):
You know, we have looked at ways of trying to
you know, bump that up, like changing implement weights and
with the horizontal jumps. You know, there's so many fowls
when they do jumps. Okay, how do we avoid this
because you know, six six jumps and then they've foul
four jumps, there's only two valid jumps.

Speaker 16 (44:01):
You know, how does that become boring for spectators?

Speaker 17 (44:04):
Right?

Speaker 15 (44:04):
So we have to be a bit more open minded,
and sometimes it's very difficult because you've got to get
the buy in from the athletes and buy in from
the old school spectators.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
Yeah, that's very interesting. I hadn't perhaps appreciated that that
level of analysis came into every sport and athletics that
you know, you're looking at the kind of viewership and
going you know what, Actually, we do have an opportunity
to improve things here.

Speaker 15 (44:27):
Because because at the end of the day, broadcasters and
people with the TV companies like your own, that's how
we get our money. Right, So we actually have to
work together and actually find ways and how do we
get more people to be interested in the sport, and
if it means moving around and maneuvering some things here
and then then that's what we've got to look into
the mix relay for example, you know, people were a

(44:48):
bit spectacle. You know, oh, this is probably not a
good idea. How do we make this, you know, entertaining,
But in fact it's been a big hit and now
it's part of the program. So we just have to
be a bit more open minded, but equally making sure
that the athletes get the buy in on it.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
And it's going to have the balance, like you don't
want to to make something a spectacle for the sake
of being a spectacle. It's still you know, you're still
got to be.

Speaker 16 (45:12):
True to the sport.

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Yeah, at its core. Yeah, do you think you know
that that shows Sprint on Netflix has kind of applied
the Formula one drive to survive behind the scenes drama
model to sprinters. Are there other like sports and athletics
that you think would could you imagine yourself?

Speaker 15 (45:33):
No, the sprinters are like Hollywood stars. They are very dramatic,
you know, they're over dramatized things. You know, they're very
out there. And you've got the Americans versus the Jamaicans.
It makes a little bit less loud than the Americans are,
and I think it brings a massive insight as to
what goes on in that sprinting world. But that's the entertainment. Yeah,
that's where most of the money comes from. Is this

(45:55):
one hundred sprints. So at the end of the day,
it's ten seconds. You've got to get the start right.
You can't foster, and you've got ten seconds to run
your heart out and try and win.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Okay, you can't foster. Just as as as a layman,
I look at that and I'm like, really, we're going
to We're going to just qualify someone over one false start. Yeah,
that's so much pressure.

Speaker 16 (46:17):
It's so much pressure.

Speaker 15 (46:18):
But once upon a time you can get too false starts.
So athlete on the line, you get two false starts,
so you could be starting for the next half an hour.
So it was pretty much because broadcasters were getting annoyed, right,
so it says one false start, one hurt, you're out. Yeah,
and they learned it pretty quickly and you know, hardly
at least false starts. When it happens, it's quite dramatic.
That's what TV likes, that's what spectators like, that's what

(46:40):
the viewers like.

Speaker 16 (46:40):
Is actually that that drama, Oh this person's false start,
or they were a favorite to win.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
I looking at the key athletics team apart from your
very notable absence, of course, it's like it strikes me
as one of the strongest athletics teams across the boards
we've had in a long time. Is that is that fair? Yeah?

Speaker 16 (47:00):
That that is fair?

Speaker 15 (47:01):
Certainly, Like put it this way, there's heaps of potentially. Yeah, yeah,
I think that's that's the right word. It's actually massive potential.
Quite a young team, you know, coming through the ranks,
and there's a lot of pressure on them to perform,
right because ultimately, you know, we've had a good history
of bringing back medals at every Olympic Game since I
competed apart from Olympia Athens. So there is a lot

(47:24):
of pressure on there, but so much potential. Who knows
it is the Olympic Games. It is a pinnacle of
everybody sporting career when they get there. But you know,
you got the likes of Eliza making the comeback again,
lots of pressure ZOI within the sprints, but anything could happen.
So I mean, I just hope that they will go
out there and do their best, which I know they would,
and I hope spectators and viewers, especially us Keyy's that

(47:46):
here supporting, remember and know and just realize that everybody
out there competing for our country is doing their ultimate
best and whatever the results will be will be, and
just be a bit kinder with any comments or remarks
that you might want to make. It's interesting because you know,
tall poppy syndrome, it is a thing in our country,
and we like to give a opinions and our two

(48:08):
cents on people's performances. But let me tell you something
from someone who has been there, done that multiple times,
five Olympic Games. I know what it's like to perform
well and succeed, and I know I also know what
it's like to underperform and actually get to ridiculed and
actually abuse for it. And then when a gold medal
seven days later and then I was a national hero,
it's not a good place to be and so just

(48:28):
be a bit mindful.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
That's that's really interesting that if did that affect you
when people were giving you a.

Speaker 15 (48:33):
Step of course, because that twenty twelve, like you know,
I got silver medal and then all of a sudden
it was like silver metal was not good enough, which
is crazy, you know, but I think you know nowadays,
you know, the accessibility to to athletes through social media platforms,
et cetera. It's it's out there, right, So yeah, it
did impact you because you're aready on the ground anyway
down on dumps and then extral on top of that

(48:56):
isn't helpful. But equally, you know, seven days later the
results changed and then all of a sudden, I was
a national hero. So not everybody has the capacity to
deal with that, you know, it is quite hard, but
but truth be told, you know this like how you
deal things mentally and high performers do go hand in hand,
so you have to put some tools and resources around
to try and combat that.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Are they are there things like that you will be
doing with New Zealand athletes to try and advise them.
You have any contact with them, So I'll go, you know,
if I see them.

Speaker 15 (49:25):
Yeah, yeah, I'll be in contact with them, but no,
so I'm there solely for world eforts, you know, but
I will definitely go and see I.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Mean you're going off on the door right of course.

Speaker 16 (49:34):
Yeah, yeah, of course I'll go see them and and
and support them absolutely.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
That's sort of because I mean for some of them,
especially when I think about how young athletics team is,
it seems to me like a lot of them I'm
sure would benefit from having your experience with those kind
of those kinds of considerations, right, I reckon, honestly, just
delete social media off you.

Speaker 16 (49:56):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, just log off, just took
it off. Yeah, it must be so hard to do that.
For for some athletics, it's hard because that's the like,
that's how they kill time.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Yeah, of course that's it. You can't you try not
to burn to about energy. Right, So you're sitting in
the village and then you're scrolling and then you see
something that really annoys you.

Speaker 14 (50:12):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (50:13):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
And some of some MTI experts who reckons they can
throw further than you or jump higher than you. Yeah great, yeah,
here we go. Prize money as well. Yes, how are
you feeling about that?

Speaker 18 (50:23):
Great?

Speaker 2 (50:24):
So fifty thousand dollars per event, right right?

Speaker 3 (50:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (50:27):
Okay, So what difference will that make for for for
athletes in terms of motivation and in terms of the sport.

Speaker 15 (50:34):
I think it's gonna like, you know, a lot of
people gain from the athletes and gain from the Olympic Games, right,
you know, with sponsors and you know the we're just
talking about the TV broadcasts and stuff, you know, So Athletics,
you know, I big up to them for putting something
like this together, to making it happen, because you know,
the athletes who deserve it, you know, they are Ethics

(50:55):
for example, is the pinnacle of the of the Olympic Games.
And for me, I think it's a step in the
right direction, and it's up to the other sports that
they want to follow suit. You know, there was a
bit of stick back from the OOC about it. You know,
it's not part of the Olympic movement and blah blahlah
and all this was h but at the end of
the day, for me, I think it's it's a positive movement.
I think it's something that hopefully all the other sports

(51:16):
looks into because we've got to you know, compensate our athletes,
you know, for winning at an Olympic stage and for
doing what they do. Athletics is not a very you
can't make a lot of money like you're.

Speaker 16 (51:28):
Doing golf and all the rest of it. So this
is going to help absolutely.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
I just think it makes it it seems only fair
to me.

Speaker 16 (51:34):
Yes, thank you.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
In order to compete at the highest level, you have
to we all know this. You you surely have to
be a full time athlete. Almost everyone is a full
time athlete, right and and there are sports like you say,
it might be all right if you're an NBA star
and you're playing playing for the USA basketball team or
something like that, you're probably going to be okay, But
there are so many sports where there isn't that kind
of money. Not Surely you want to see athletes actually,

(51:57):
you know, compensated for their work but also supported to
get better in the future. I think it's sort of obvious.

Speaker 15 (52:02):
Absolutely, So I think like for me and for our sport,
hopefully every other sport can lock it and go, okay,
we got to do something like this, probably not up
to the same standard, but do something, you know, because
that means that they value their athletes because they're gaining
from it totally.

Speaker 16 (52:14):
So let's see.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
So do I ask it, what moment of these games
are you going to feel the biggest like pang in
your chest, like, oh man, I wish I was out there.

Speaker 15 (52:27):
Probably when I'm at the track and you know, funny enough,
it's probably maybe when I'm watching the woman shot, yeah, maybe, yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (52:34):
Although I was at the Eugene World Championships the year
after I the year i'd announced my retirement, and someone
asked me if I was competing, Yeah, and I was
actually going to watch the qualification. I was like, thank you,
but no, actually I just got to be a spectator.
But I think when the woman shots on, only because
the last Olympic Games, the story and the hardship took
me to get there, and you know, the COVID and

(52:55):
all the rest of it, I think that's probably going
to be like, oh crap, Like it would have would
be nice to be out there. But at the same time,
on the second breath, I'd be like, na broch, do
so I know exactly how you're feeling, how you're feeling.
You probably didn't sleep last night, probably hardly, you know,
wanted to eat anything Like I am almost like undone
with that. You know, five Olympic Games is enough?

Speaker 2 (53:15):
Yeah, And how special to be there in this capacity
as well to be able to actually enjoy the games
whilst also contributing.

Speaker 15 (53:21):
Yeah, absolutely, And for you know, for me it's about
going there and on a different capacity but wanting to
use your platform and your experience to make change, you know,
because if you want to make change, you've got to
be at the table, not serving coffee to the people
at the table. And I soon realize, you know, I
mean knew before ethics is are very europe centric. Sport
ethnics has are very you know, heavily focused on what's

(53:43):
happening in Europe and also America. Also, they've also got
to realize that, Ohian, your exist, South America exists, Africa exists,
you know. So I'm able to bring that aspect into
onto the table and actually have conversations with our council
members to be able to just let them know remind
them that you know, we do exist down here, even
though our time zones are pretty effed up and we've
got to have meetings at one till four in the morning,

(54:05):
but we're here for it.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
One last question. Have you been in France or in
Paris before where you haven't had to eat like an athlete?

Speaker 8 (54:13):
No?

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Because here's my tip, I reckon you want to you
want to land in Paris and you immediately want to
go to a patisseri or bologerie or whatever. Two arm
and croissants just to start the day and champions breakfast
and coffee of course, yeah, you can do that absolutely.

Speaker 15 (54:31):
No, I haven't been there as a non athlete, so
I am looking forwards for and you some some buggets
bound and croissant.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
There you go, perfect. Hey, it is so good to
see you enjoy enjoy the Olympic Games and all the
very best.

Speaker 16 (54:44):
We will thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
That is Dame Valerie Adams. How good. Yes, less than
seven days now until the opening ceremony at Paris twenty
twenty four. Right now, it's twenty three past ten.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
Start your weekend off in style. Saturday Mornings with Jack
Tay and bepure dot co dot inst for high quality
Supplements Used Talk said.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Be hey, Jack, what refreshing interview with Dame Valerie this morning.
Thank you. Honestly, I agree, and I just it's so funny.
I have had the privilege of interviewing Dame Vale like
quite a few times over the years, and you know,
a lot of the time it's like she was getting
ready for big competitions and had all the kind of
pressure with competitions and everything, but just there was just

(55:26):
such a it was so it was just lovely. I
really really enjoyed that, really enjoyed having a chat with her,
and I just hope she has the best time at
the games. If you want to flick us at text
this morning, ninety two ninety two as our text number,
Jackie News Talks b dot code olings ed is the
email address. If you are looking forward to a weekend
of not feeling like an Olympic athlete, you just feel
like plunking on the couch. Good news, Our screen time

(55:49):
expert Tara Ward is here with her picks for us
this week.

Speaker 19 (55:52):
Hey Tara, good morning, I've got all us everyday athletes.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Yes, exactly. Well, you know, recent recovery is a very
important part of training, they say these days, it's all balanced, Tara.
So let's start off with the show streaming on Prime Video.
Tell us about Those About to Die.

Speaker 19 (56:08):
Yeah, this is Prime Video's new big historical epic. It's
the series they're hoping will become the next kind of
Game of Thrones, and it's set in ancient Rome. It
starts to Anthony Hopkins and it's about the dirty, corrupt
business of entertaining the masses through gladiatorial sports. So it's
about the people that run that world in Rome and
the people who get caught up in it. And Anthony

(56:28):
Hopkins plays the improvis pat who is choosing which one
of his sons to pass his throne onto and deciding
who will have all that power to oversee the city
and control the blood Sport. There's a lot going on here,
lots of characters, lots of politics and power struggles, all
through different aspects of society. And I think that's because
the show is trying to recreate that game of throne

(56:50):
scale and the vastness of the Roman Empire. And probably
the best part of this is the action sequences, the
chariot races and the gladiator matches. The show is directed
by Roland Emerick, who made films like Independence Day and
The Day After Tomorrow. So there's lots of big visual moments,
lots of CGI. Look, it's not the best well written
show that the characters are a bit cliche, but it's entertaining,

(57:13):
you know, it's a bit of fun and it really
brings that Roman world to life.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Nice, okay, cool, that's those about to die. It's on
Prime Video on Neon tell Us about the Jetty.

Speaker 19 (57:22):
Yeah, this is a new BBC crime drama. It lands
on Neon from tomorrow and if you enjoyed broad Church,
I think you'll like this as well. It's a similar
kind of police drama set in a small community where
there's a lot of seedy stuff going on beneath the surface.
This stars Gina Coleman. She plays a detective in a
lakeside tourist town in the north of England. Her husband

(57:43):
recently died, she's got a teenage daughter, and when a
local boat house burns down, she starts linking that crime
to a cold case disappearance and the pregnancy of a
local teenage girl. And there's a lot of storylines in
the first episode and obviously they're going to come together
somehow as the show goes on. But it's set in
a small community where everyone is connected and everyone knows
everyone else's business. I will say the first fifteen minute

(58:06):
also are a little bit slow, but stick with it.
Once it gets into the police drama, it really finds
its feet. It's very atmospheric and moody. Genna Coleman is
great in this, and a lot of the early reviews
competed it to Happy Valley. I'm not sure it's quite
that strong, but it's a well made, slick thriller tax
all the boxes that you would expect, and with only
four episodes, it's a nice title story.

Speaker 2 (58:26):
Yeah nice Okay. So that's on Neon, That's the Jetty
and on Netflix. Skywalkers.

Speaker 19 (58:32):
This is a new documentary that landed last night. And
if you're scared of heights, this might not be one
for you because this is about two Russian rooftoppers. And
a rooftopper is someone who climbs to the top of
skyscrapers or scaffolding or cranes without any safety gear on.
They do it just for fun, just because they can,
and you might see them on social media doing headstands
or pirowetes hundreds of meters above the ground. And so

(58:54):
this documentary follows two of those rooftoppers, Ivan and Angela,
who met through rooftopping. They've fallen in love and they
are training to climb one of the highest skyscrapers in
the world in Malaysia together and so you get an
to why they do. This's how they conquer those fears.
The cynical part of me, Jack says, social media plays
a big part of this. It's all about being seen,

(59:14):
getting that perfect sunset photo.

Speaker 11 (59:16):
At the top.

Speaker 19 (59:17):
But the photography in this documentary is incredible. My stomach
turned several times just watching this because of the heights
and the risks they take. It is mind boggling. And
it's one of those documentaries that you watch, you know,
your jaw dropping the whole time.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
I can't watch it. I can't do it, Tara. No,
I just I don't think I can do it because
I just I find I mean, it's so dangerous. I mean,
this is I can I can tell, this is me
having moved from adolescence into middle age. I think, I
just I can't even look at photographs of people taking
risks like this, knowing that they're okay, knowing that they've
posted the photographs. I can't look at it. But I'm

(59:51):
sure there'll be some people who've got stronger stomachs than me.
Thank you. That's Skywalkers, So that's on Netflix. The Jetty
is on Neon, and Those About to Die, the one
with Sir Anthony Hopkins is on Prime Video. And I'll
tell you what. Horra's picks have done very well at
the Emmy With the Emmy nominations, they're out this week

(01:00:13):
and they included some of our screen time favorites. The Bear,
which is that gritty one said in Chicago with the
very hunky chef in a stressful kitchen that has been
categorized as a comedy, which is pretty controversial. But it
picked up twenty three Emmy nominations for its second season,

(01:00:35):
which I think is the all time record for Emmy nominations.
Shogun had twenty five nominations, so I think The Bear
got twenty three for comedy, which is a record for
a comedy. Shogun got twenty five nominations for its inaugural
season as well, and some New Zealand stuff did well.
Wetter FX were up again for awards for their visual
effect works for their work on Ripley and New Zealand

(01:00:56):
created shows Reservation Dogs and What We Do in the
Shadow also received nominations, as did Annasawai. So there you go.
Right now, it has just gone ten.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Thirty, getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack
Team on News Talks.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
B I give her my.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
There's something.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
This is Griff. Griff's one of the UK's kind her
fastest rising singer songwriters at the moment. She's made massive, massive, massive,
bounds in the last couple of years, going from her
self produced debut mixtape all the way to being an
opening act for Taylor Swift at Wembley Stadium. Ain't no thing.
Griff is a bit of a pop crafts woman. She's

(01:01:57):
been described as tenacious, wise beyond her years, and now
her debut album is out. It's called Vertigo and we'll
be listening to that after eleven this morning. Speaking of Vertigo,
Michelle has sent me a note.

Speaker 12 (01:02:09):
Jack.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
You were the guy who put us onto the Free
Solo movie. Come on, you absolutely loved it and you
don't have the stomach for Scott. What is it Skywalkers?
Someone it was Rooftoppers. No, it's Skywalkers. Yeah, good, very
good point, Michelle. I'm more than prepared to hand that
to you. I don't know why I could handle a
movie about a guy climbing up El Capitan in the

(01:02:32):
U Smite National Park without any ropes. But I can't
look at photos of people climbing skyscrapers and dangling off intennas.
I think there's like an element of professionalism. Maybe that
comes with Free Solo. I don't know. Yeah, it's a
totally legitimate point. I can't tell you why I distinguished
between those two things. Before eleven o'clock on news Talk,

(01:02:55):
he'd be the things you need to do in the
garden right now to make sure they're prime for spring.
When it comes to fertilizing, Yes, there are lots of
things you should be fertilizing in winter. So our man
in the garden going to give us his tips. Next up,
our texpert on what this incredible IT outage actually means
and what we can do to avoid it in the future.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 20 (01:03:20):
Three hundred and eighty one thousand dollar. The main benefit
sanctions are also up significantly in the job seeker area.
Social Development and Employment Minister Louise Upston with there's a
lot of people on the benefit it.

Speaker 21 (01:03:30):
Is, and unfortunately the numbers that we were expecting were
these very challenging economic time.

Speaker 20 (01:03:35):
How many people are on there because it's no fault
of their own versus how many people are on there
because they can't.

Speaker 22 (01:03:40):
Be bothered, Well, I think that's the really difficult one.

Speaker 21 (01:03:43):
I think there will be a chunk of them that
have got used to being comfortable there, But I think
the majority really will be in a position that they
want to be in work and the steps that they
can take to improve their chances.

Speaker 20 (01:03:55):
Back Monday from six am the Mic Asking Breakfast with
Mayley's Real Estate News Talk ZB.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
Well, they are already calling it the single biggest IT
outage in history. This issue with a company called CrowdStrike,
which provides cyber security services to various companies through Microsoft,
has effected thousands and thousands of operations around the world.
Our texpert Paul Stenhouse is here to explain it all

(01:04:21):
this morning. So, Paul, from what we know at this
stage what happened, this.

Speaker 11 (01:04:26):
Is a mess.

Speaker 23 (01:04:27):
These are companies that actually were trying to do the
right thing. I think that's the first thing to point out, right,
they actually invested in technology to try to prevent things
like ransomware attacks and effectively got ransomware attacked by the
very company providing the software to prevent it. Craziness. Now,
it seems that this wasn't actually a software update per

(01:04:49):
se that caused this, right, It was actually more of
a content update, And that's a little bit of a
different thing.

Speaker 11 (01:04:55):
Why if we get.

Speaker 23 (01:04:56):
Behind the scenes and talk about some of the nitty gritty. Usually,
when you do a software update, when you're going from
say version one point one to one point two, organizations
typically get the chance to re view that and they
choose when they would actually roll out that update.

Speaker 11 (01:05:10):
They usually test it both. CrowdStrike would have tested it
very extensively.

Speaker 23 (01:05:14):
The company that's going to roll it out to their
wide wide network would have tested it.

Speaker 11 (01:05:20):
That didn't happen with this.

Speaker 16 (01:05:21):
This was an automatic update.

Speaker 11 (01:05:22):
That was sent globally to all of the crowd.

Speaker 23 (01:05:26):
Strike customers basically to update their software to do, you know,
look at the latest detection algorithms and update information about threats.
It's like when you back in the day when you
had the antivirus your Norton's or your AVGS or whatever
it was, you used to go away once a week
and would get the latest updates. That's the best kind
of example of what we think this was trying to do.

(01:05:49):
It's the type of update that usually they just roll
out and it goes off without a hitch, and I've
probably done hundreds of them, not thousands of them, right, But.

Speaker 11 (01:06:00):
There was something in this update where there was.

Speaker 23 (01:06:03):
A file that was corrupted that when they rolled this
out to all the Windows machines. It didn't go so well.
And I think it's really important to note there was
nothing wrong with Microsoft or Windows say.

Speaker 11 (01:06:14):
This wasn't anything to do with Microsoft.

Speaker 23 (01:06:16):
It was just unfortunate that you know, there's largely three
types of operating systems, Windows.

Speaker 11 (01:06:22):
Mac Os, and Linux.

Speaker 23 (01:06:23):
Now, the Linux and mac Os updates either seemed to
go fine or they weren't updated at the same time,
but it was the.

Speaker 11 (01:06:30):
Windows update that rarely just took down super large customers.

Speaker 23 (01:06:36):
Crowdstrikes says on the website they have twenty nine thousand customers,
which does sound like a lot, but these are clearly large,
large corporations. And the thing is is they've taken down
This is the hard part, not just the terminals that
you can see and use, So not just when you
call someone call center and maybe it's taken down the
computer they are using to pull up the records. There's

(01:06:58):
a very good chance it also took down the server
in the background. And even worse is it could have
taken down the servers that hold the information about things
like encryption keys and other recovery methods needed to get
back in. We'll oh, this is for some companies, this
is going to be as bad as a ransomware attack

(01:07:20):
would have been, really truly and some of these machines.
So basically, when this got rolled out, it sent the
computers into a recovery boot loop.

Speaker 11 (01:07:29):
So it's forced the.

Speaker 23 (01:07:30):
Computer to restart it said there's an error. It can't
start restart in.

Speaker 14 (01:07:34):
A way you go.

Speaker 23 (01:07:35):
So the problem is that when they roll out this
new update, the computer actually has to get it, and
sometimes it can take fifteen updates, like going through the
restart process before the software downloads fixes itself and then
is able to actually boot properly. Some computers that are
using you know, encryption and things like that, they may

(01:07:57):
need to be manually updated each one, one by one,
and some of them may just be bricked and will
need to be completely reformatted.

Speaker 11 (01:08:06):
Terrible.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Yeah, I had sort of thought, oh, things look like
they're improving now, but if that's the case, it's going
to take ages to sort this out. Thank you so much, Paul.
That sounds what a fiasco, to say the least. That
sounds devastating and concerning, but remarkable that this has happened.
So obviously we're going to bring you any updates when
they come through to the newsroom. It looks like we're

(01:08:27):
going to be reporting on this for some time to come.
In a couple of minutes on news Talks, there'd be
we'll catch up with our master of wine. He's chosen
his best buy for us this week. Right now, it's
sixteen to eleven.

Speaker 5 (01:08:39):
A little bit of way to kick off your weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
Then with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay and Bepart
on code Z for high quality Supplements used talk.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
Zb it is one time with our master of Wine,
Bob Campbell. He picks his best buy for us every week.
Gold Bob, good morning morning for your best bye this week.
You've chosen a main divide Reasling twenty twenty three from
North Canterbury. So tell us about it.

Speaker 22 (01:09:04):
Well, I love Reasoning, so it's always a pleasure to
to to display a wine of that. I'm so affectionate
towards Reasoning New Zealand. In my view, Reasoning is New
Zealand's top value wine. It's slightly unfashionable, so that drives

(01:09:26):
the price down, but it doesn't seem to affect the quality.
You can get great wines at good prices. The main
divide is also Pegasus spays the entry level wine and
Pegasus spay have got a history of producing cop top reasoning.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
And what does it taste like, Bob?

Speaker 22 (01:09:48):
Well, it's a slightly sweet reasoning with I call it
was restrained lusciousness that's sort of balanced by the rich
right acidity. It's got a suspicion of betritus, and I
should explain that betritus is a beneficial vineyard mold that
someone's called noble rot that adds weight in concentration to wine.

(01:10:09):
So that's a plus in my view. It's a good
sweet sour interaction. It gives the wine like a pleasing tension,
which is good stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
Yeah, very good, And you reckon this is really good value.

Speaker 22 (01:10:24):
Yes, the regular retail price for this wine is twenty
one dollars ninety nine, but I found at Veno Fino
in christ Church for seventeen ninety nine. That's a really
good price. Also the Wine Hub in christ Church for
twenty dollars. Cantabrians seem to appreciate good value wines.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
It's always it doesn't have to travel quite as far,
does it, whether it's in pigs, which is good. So
what would what would you measure with Bob?

Speaker 22 (01:10:53):
Well, I just enjoy it with the comp without the
complication of food. But if you do want food, you've
had something slightly sweet like apple tart is quite a
good match.

Speaker 4 (01:11:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
And do you think this will age?

Speaker 22 (01:11:09):
Well? Yeah, it does age very well. It becomes richer
and more complex. It's sort of changes rather than gets better.
It gets better if you like that style of sort
of age reasoning, or otherwise drink it young. I quite
enjoy it when it's real little beef.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Very good. Okay, Bob's wine for us This week A
main divide Reasling twenty twenty three from North Canterbury, Jack Dam.
Today we have Lisa from Beech.

Speaker 5 (01:11:41):
Gardening with steel shop free accessories this winter.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
That's still shot climb passes our man in the garden killed.

Speaker 11 (01:11:49):
Jack.

Speaker 14 (01:11:50):
Is everything all right with your TOUI?

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Everything is going very well with the TWI thank you.
In fact, I'm actually I'm actually leaving town for a
couple of days. So here's what I've had to do
with the bird feeders. I'm leaving town for five days
this week, and so I figured I'm worried that I've
created a dependence for both the tohoe, the Silver Eyes
and the twoy So I've been trying to wean them
off it, not not not wean them off completely, but

(01:12:14):
just try and reduce the dependency. So I've been putting
out a bottle every second day this week.

Speaker 14 (01:12:20):
What do you think, Oh, good on you. Well, you
don't have to go that far. Honestly, they can cope
with that because they'll have other check teams in the neighborhood.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
Yeah, of course I know, but I just I didn't.
I would, you know, hate to hate them starving while
I'm away.

Speaker 14 (01:12:37):
They were, they were now, But honestly, I see my
my bellboards and Towho doing the same thing. They do
a circuit circuit literally around the neighborhood, and if somebody
goes on holiday or goes away or something like that,
they just go to somebody else. But they will always
come back to check.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
You, Yeah, just to make sure, like to check if
it's there you mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:13:00):
Yeah, to make sure that you haven't hung something up
sneakily somewhere where they didn't know.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04):
It was nice. Yeah, I love it. It's so so
nice and just one of those little things you can
do during the winter months. And of course that's what
you're focusing on this morning. Is this winter drags on?

Speaker 22 (01:13:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 14 (01:13:17):
I do, in fact, yeah, And I'll talk a little
bit more about birds another day in a couple of
weeks time. But yeah, right at the moment, of course,
because it's winter, everything is slowed down and there is
basically not much growth going on, et cetera, et cetera,
et cetera. Plants are dormant, which actually helps because it
means that you can actually transplant them or cut them,

(01:13:40):
you know what I mean, trim them and do all
that sort of stuff without causing a lot of troubles.
And a lot of people know that this time of
the year it's actually not a fabulous time to go
and fertilize them because they're not going to use the fertilizer. No,
that's as simple as that. So the NPK that we
normally use in spring and summer and autumn is no

(01:14:02):
longer if you like required as much. Right, But here
comes the thing. I often get questions at this time
of the year. For instance, why is my lemon tree
not fruiting that? Well, why isn't producing fruit? And you
get it for other trees of course, in the in
the other times of the year, and and and that
sort of you get those sort of questions, and now

(01:14:24):
now you get the questions, I've just been burning my
fireplace or or or you know, your ultra low emissions burner.
Can I use that particular ash as pot ash which
is the k of n p K.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
Yeah you know what I mean? Ye, yes, yes you.

Speaker 14 (01:14:45):
Can, absolutely can, but don't go over the top. I
would say, that's really not what you need to do.
So yes you can use it. And basically what I
do with my U L E B I I scrape
off the ashes from the from the base if you like,
from the base of the of the of the the heater,
and I take it into the garden and I literally

(01:15:08):
spread it very thinly over the root zone of the
plants that are going to be using flowers and fruit
in a couple of months time. If you would put
it on too thick, it almost acts like.

Speaker 3 (01:15:24):
A what do you call it?

Speaker 14 (01:15:26):
A layer of of something that sticks to it. It's
it's not nice. It's oh what do you call it? Well,
it's yeah, it's almost like cement, but it's not like that,
not to thick.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
Yeah right, okay, okay, that's good.

Speaker 14 (01:15:40):
Okay, So let's number one, the ash from the fireplace. Yes,
you can use that. And that is, of course the
K by the way, pot ash. Potash, which is the K,
by the way, case stands for carlium. Did you know
that kalium. That's that's the Latin word for that particular
K in the periodic system. And and and it's actually

(01:16:00):
only the English and some other people have decided to
call it potash, but still use the K as the
the letter for the material. That's an interesting thing to
have a look at. Sodium is another one, nautria. But anyway,
spread it around your garden and do it when it's
quite windy, so it actually goes like a dust all
over the place, and slowly when it rains, it'll soak

(01:16:23):
down into the ground. And by the time comes October
or September or even August, sun plants and they start
to the plants start to look for nutrients. They sundas
as surrounded by the pottage. And that is going to
be really cool for your spring flowering and spring fruiting
expectally what it's about.

Speaker 2 (01:16:43):
Oh, very good, thank you, that's great.

Speaker 14 (01:16:46):
It's good.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
Hey, yeah, very good. Yeah, how are you a David
beacam fan.

Speaker 14 (01:16:50):
I certainly am because I always watched the soccer like
I did of course last week.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
No good, yeah, very good. Okay, Well the reason I
ask is I think we've got the book for you.
After eleven o'clock this morning. Rude oh nice. Yeah, we're
going to be catching up with our book reviewer Catherine
and she's chosen a book that's she says it's all
about money, sex and power, the Beckhams. So we're going
to tell you about that. That'll be one for the
Christmas stocking. Maybe rude out for you, Thank you very much, sir,

(01:17:17):
catch you so as well as that. After eleven o'clock
our sustainability expert with her top tips on reducing the
amount of plastic in your home. That'll be really interesting.
It's almost eleven o'clock though, News is Next Year with
Jack Tam and This is News doorgs EDB.

Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
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Speaker 2 (01:18:11):
Cold It Easy, Good morning, Welcome to Newstalk's EDB. I
feel like we are all focusing on warmer climbs today,
especially with the Paris Olympics about to kick off, and
of course the All Blacks playing in San Diego this afternoon.
We're going to have the call live for you on
newstalk ZEDB as they take on Fiji two thirty. That
game is set to kick off. I think the stadium

(01:18:32):
holds about twenty five thousand when it's totally full, so
it'll be interesting to see what kind of crowd they
can draw in southern California. But sticking with the warm
climbs theme, very shortly, we're going to take you on
a virtual trip to the Peloponnese Peninsula in Greece. When
our travel correspondent joins us. Right now, it is eight

(01:18:54):
minutes past eleven. Jack and our sustainability expert Kate Hall
aka Ethically Kate, is here. Calder Kate, good morning.

Speaker 6 (01:19:03):
Have you passed it fore July?

Speaker 11 (01:19:05):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
Yeah, happy player, stick free July. I would be lying
if I said I knew this was the plastic free month.
But also, but knowing you, I know that you will
be leaning in harder than most. How is plastic free
July going for you?

Speaker 6 (01:19:19):
Well, it's honest for me, like I think even last year,
I kind of not boorycotted it, but I was a
little bit.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
No, I think I know full July.

Speaker 5 (01:19:30):
No.

Speaker 6 (01:19:32):
I think it's just it can be it can feel
really repetitive each year when you when the plastic free
July comes around and you look around the world and
you think, gosh, I've been doing this for like seven
eight years now, and it you know, I can just
it can feel like people do token stick actions during
plasic free July and then you know, then they don't

(01:19:54):
treat the rest.

Speaker 24 (01:19:55):
Of the year like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but I
mean yeah, not.

Speaker 6 (01:20:01):
To sound negative, but I guess I'm I don't go
as all in a probably you'd expect me to, mainly
because plastic isn't my only focus. To you know, plastica
is a very small part of the king.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
I think it competed to most of us. You probably
have a life that is more consciously free of plastic
than most others.

Speaker 6 (01:20:22):
Yes, yeah, but there's always there's.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
Always always exactly yeah, exactly. So you have some tips
this morning, ten top tips on reducing plastic in our homes.
So talk us through the first couple.

Speaker 6 (01:20:35):
So I thought this is kind of like a ten
ten kind of as a simple list that people listening
can either see how many they got out of ten,
and I'd be interested to know how many you already
do out of ten. Jack, yep, Yeah, So here we
go quick fire. The first one, bring your own containers
when you're eating out. So if you ring up to

(01:20:56):
order Indian takeaways, bring your own containers to get them.
Bring your own containers, just carry them in your car.
If you're getting any food that is out reusable produce
bags and grocery bags, so actually bringing them with you
and not just buying another plastic based reusable bag. But

(01:21:18):
actually we're using what you have. It's really really key.
How are you going so fad to added two?

Speaker 2 (01:21:25):
I would I don't take my own containers when eating out,
but that's because I usually eat everything. Yeah a peg,
so I usually eat everything, So that's not usually.

Speaker 6 (01:21:35):
But I mean, like if you're getting you know how
if you're getting takeaways, they're usually come in those pesky
little reusable but it's still just wasteful. We have so
much tougher at hard but that's good, there's room for improvement.
Food one, avoid plastic food wrap, so I mean glad wrappers,
so you know twenty eighteen. Yes, so putting bowls of

(01:22:00):
your food to cover it, you know, reasonable containers, these
X wraps, like, there's just so much we can do.
I haven't the bread wrap for a long long time,
and I get by no cup, no coffee. That's a
rule that a lot of people around the country used
to either sit down and have they have hair cup
if they don't have their reasonable cup with them, because
coffee cups are always lined with plastic. It doesn't matter

(01:22:22):
what they're made from, they're yeah, no good and they're
single used to shopping and bulk so for things like
rice and baking ingredients, flour, sugar, chickpeas, seeds, bring your
own jars to a bolkbin store and stocking out with
those so you don't have any you know, the plastic
bags around those items. Using bar soap or refilling your

(01:22:47):
soap at refill store. So it's really a simple one.
Just in your kind of your hand washing routine or
your shower, just using classic bar, carrying reasable cutlery in
your car or your handbag. It's really good, especially if
you're going, you know, out festivals or if you're someone
who is on the go a lot and eating a

(01:23:08):
lot out ditching plastic bend liners.

Speaker 2 (01:23:14):
That's that's a hard one for a lot of people.
And do you and you even Enclode, don't you you
even include the ones that like disintegrate a whole lot faster.

Speaker 6 (01:23:23):
Yes, because I mean they're not they're going into lanfill
and that's a yeah ear tight even compossible things. They're
not going to really break down a lanfill. They're going
to be mummy fied and we just don't need them.
Like if you if you compast and sort your rubbish correctly,
you're you don't need a bendliner. It's not stinky or

(01:23:43):
missy or yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's a simple one. Saves
money too to add bendliners when you're shocking this. So
that's number eight. How you going? How many do you reckon?

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
I reckon? I'm at about four four.

Speaker 4 (01:24:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:24:00):
That's good because.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
You can you can now to improve Yeah exactly.

Speaker 6 (01:24:08):
Okay. Last two is stop buying bottled water or bottled drinks.

Speaker 2 (01:24:12):
I'm good there, I'm good, I'm in the clear there.

Speaker 6 (01:24:16):
Yeah, good because I thought because in New Zealand we're
still so like it's amazing the clean water sources we
have compared to other countries. It's just incredible that most
taps we can just drink straight from and so, but
the water, yeah, we still spend millions. I think it
might even be billions of dollars a year on bottled

(01:24:38):
water in.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
New Zealand as well as people who win. They you know,
when like bottled water first became a thing, I was like, oh,
that's never going to make any money. Look, what a
dumb business.

Speaker 4 (01:24:48):
There is.

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
No one's no it's even going to buy that. And
it's like, oh.

Speaker 4 (01:24:51):
Okay, now it's oh my gosh.

Speaker 6 (01:24:54):
Yeah, even even here, you know, in a country that
has running hat water that's generally clean, we still spend yeah,
so much money. So that's a great money. Say the too, well,
just bring your own reasonable bodle. And number ten is
for the tea drinkers amongst us choosing loose leaf tea.
So even our tea bags have macroplastics on them, and

(01:25:17):
so loose leaf I also think is much more delicious.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
Oh man, I know, plastics just in everything, aren't they. Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:25:27):
Yeah, well plastic three July. I mean you could look
at yeah, most things in your in your life and
your home and your pantry and plastic has in some
shape or form, come into contact with every sing or.
Yeah makes that so.

Speaker 5 (01:25:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:25:43):
Number ten choose loose loose leaf tea. Some tea bag
companies now they have tea bags that don't have macroplastics,
but still it's still a single use item. I've got
a little metal kind of tea strainer which is a
reusable kind of like a reusable tea bag.

Speaker 2 (01:26:01):
Yeah yeah, yeah, it kind of like has the pinching action.

Speaker 5 (01:26:05):
Eh.

Speaker 6 (01:26:06):
Yeah, You've got to be careful and not not kind
of look at too too much otherwise loosely everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
Yeah, yeah, okay, I reckon, I'm going to say four
and a half.

Speaker 6 (01:26:19):
Okay, that's good. It's not really it's good because no,
but I think it's good because I get excited when
there is room for improvement, because you know, like, yeah,
that's it'll be interesting to know people listening what they
got out of ten high. Yeah, well never is what
we need to do.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
Yeah, okay, no, very good. Hey, one questions has come through.
What what about dog poo bags?

Speaker 20 (01:26:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:26:47):
Dog poo bags? I mean when I had a dog,
I carried a jar and a little scoop that was
a reasonable sealed bag, and so I then took that
home and put it in essentially just a hole in
my garden. That was a dog poo compuff I made.
So again dog poo bags same as beIN liners.

Speaker 22 (01:27:06):
Yeah, not good.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
Yeah, sort of no winners there. It's sort of a
grim sort of metal image.

Speaker 5 (01:27:11):
Really.

Speaker 6 (01:27:12):
I mean I felt like.

Speaker 24 (01:27:13):
When I'm walking along the yeah, scooping out my dog's
poona jar, because that created some really good chats and.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
You got a good scooper. Maybe the scooper is actually
less grim than doing the kind of the hand and
the bag reversed, you know that technique.

Speaker 24 (01:27:30):
That's quite great, exactly, it's quite grim. The warm Yeah,
with a scoop I can honestly stand. I can honestly
say after four years of using a scoop and a jar,
I didn't touch like, I didn't get dogs.

Speaker 6 (01:27:45):
On me, you know, like it's it was. I found
the scoop plastic and handshop and found a jar that
was a perfect size of the size of my dog's poos.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
That's very good, Thank you so much. I'll be fascinated
to see how people go with that list of ten
items or ten things you can do to reduce plastic
and plastic usage in Plastic Free July. So there we've
got so far four and a half out of ten.
That's mine. I reckon you can beat that. Ninety two
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Speaker 4 (01:28:23):
Good morning Jack.

Speaker 10 (01:28:24):
No predictions in the sporting world.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
I'm glad that you said it because it was on
the tip of my tongue. It was on the tip
of my tongue. It was a good game last week though.
It was a good game, very good game.

Speaker 10 (01:28:35):
I'll tell you what. I'm very excited for Hamilton Boys
high today.

Speaker 2 (01:28:39):
Courtiers and no oh yeah right, yeah. I thought played
so well last week, really good. I think he is
a high stress moment as well.

Speaker 10 (01:28:48):
Oh totally. You know, I think he of the three,
I know TJ's obviously out, but of the three, I
think Courtiers would be my starting pack.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
Yeah, I think he might be mine as well. Actually well,
so I've just based on that performance last week, as
you know. Anyway, so it'll be interesting to see how
he goes this afternoon. But this morning we are focusing
on the pellop Knees Peninsula. Say that three times fast
are the Peloponnese Peninsula and Greece. So compared to Athens,
compared to the Greek islands, this is a lesser traffic,

(01:29:17):
slightly less touristy region.

Speaker 10 (01:29:19):
Right, definitely, jack yep, far less trampled. But it's the
stuff of legends. And as you wander around the peninsula,
it's like myth and history just constantly overlap. It's where
Paris of Troy eloped with Helen, the Argonauts set sail
and said to the Golden fleece. It's where gods walk

(01:29:39):
to the earth, meddling and mortal affairs. So for history buffs,
there's just so much to blow the mind in southern Greece.

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
Yeah, the Paris Olympics, of course less than seven days away. Now,
so what about Olympia.

Speaker 10 (01:29:53):
Yeah, the western Peloponnese is home to the Valley of
the Gods. So this is where the ancient Olympics began
nearly three thousand years ago. And it's interesting when you
look back at the history, all regional hostilities would be
suspended for these games, which were very much staged in
the honor of the God of God's Zeus. And when
you go to Olympia today, there's not actually a lot

(01:30:14):
left from the majestic temples and the athletic facilities, because
the Roman emperor at the time ordered them destroyed as
he converted to Christianity. But you do still get a
hint of the sanctuary's former glory. And of course it's
still here that the Olympic Flame begins its journey every
four years.

Speaker 2 (01:30:33):
And Olympia wasn't the only meeting place right for ancient
sporting festivals in Greece.

Speaker 10 (01:30:39):
That's right. And the reason I thought we'd mentioned this
is because I went to a place called Epidorus in
the Peloponnese, and you do get a real flavor for
ancient sporting conquests at Epidorus. The place is home to
what they call the Sanctuary of Asclepius. Now, Asclepius was

(01:31:00):
the god of medicine and the son of Apollo Jack,
But three thousand years ago this sanctuary was famed across
the Mediterranean as a place of miraculous healing and apparently
being licked by a snake was considered the most powerful cure,
believe it or not. But alongside their medicine, they also
staged amazing sporting contests. And you can still see the

(01:31:25):
ancient stadium at Epidorus and also this massive amphitheater, one
of the best preserved ancient theess of Greece. So it
seats about fourteen thousand people and I just love it.
How at these ancient theaters you go on to the stage,
you drop a coin and it can be crisply heard
from the highest seat. You cannot beat old school acoustics.

Speaker 2 (01:31:50):
Yeah, oh that's cool. Okay, what's so popular about Naplio?

Speaker 10 (01:31:54):
Yeah, this is just twenty minutes down the coast from Epidorus,
and Naplio is a sweetheart spot. It's considered by Greeks
as one of their most romantic cities and it was
actually the first capital of the newly born Greek state
back in the early eighteen hundreds. So lots of architectural
eye candy, lots of hilltop castles, Ottoman fountains, Venetian townhouses,

(01:32:20):
and interestingly, if you're a fan of Bucklaver, which is
such a loved sweet treat right across the keeping the
Turks love, and of course Info They've got their own variation.
It's raisin Bucklover, which.

Speaker 5 (01:32:39):
Is really really good.

Speaker 10 (01:32:41):
I would get a godful or two of that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:43):
Jack raisin Bucklover, okay, because sometimes you don't want to
mess with the classics. But I'm open minded when it
comes to my Aegean sweets.

Speaker 10 (01:32:52):
Okay, that is true, by the way. Yeah, once you've
had a gobful of raisin Bucklaver, definitely go to a
souvenir shop Info because they are very very famous amongst
Greek as the city that produces the best worry beads
conboloi and it's because of the amber beads. All of

(01:33:13):
the amber beads are produced in Naplio, So if you
want a real authentic souvenir, you can go wrong with
a conbloi from Naplio.

Speaker 2 (01:33:22):
Right, Okay, that sounds awesome. So for history buffs, what
ancient site would you say is the best of all?

Speaker 10 (01:33:30):
Do not miss Myceny. The myceny in civilization dominated Greece
a thousand years before the Golden Age of Athens. And
the thing about Mysony is not only did it call
the shots over much of the Mediterranean over three thousand
years ago. But the ancient citadel which you can see
today has been so incredibly preserved. Now, the legend is

(01:33:55):
it Jack that Cyclops was enlisted to help build Mysony,
And when you look at the size of the stone
blocks and its fortress war you do have to wonder
those limestone blocks weigh six ton.

Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
That's amazing.

Speaker 10 (01:34:15):
How did they do that? Yeah, three and a half
thousand years ago?

Speaker 2 (01:34:20):
That is stunning, isn't it? Speaking of engineering, the Curranth Canal, Yes.

Speaker 10 (01:34:26):
Well, with a photo stop at comes a path through
the Corinth Esthmus, which links the G and C with
the Ionian Sea. So this canal enabled a four hundred
kilometers shortcut for ships heading to Athens. But it's amazing
because imprior Nero was actually the first to start building
this canal over two thousand years ago. It was abandoned

(01:34:47):
when he died and it wasn't actually started again until
the nineteenth century. And it was actually the Sewers Canal
that inspired the success of the Corinth Canal. But yeah,
it's a gorgeous site.

Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
Oh wow, Yeah, that's amazing. So is the Peloponnese Peninsula
easy to get to?

Speaker 6 (01:35:06):
Yes?

Speaker 22 (01:35:06):
It is.

Speaker 10 (01:35:07):
So it's only about an hour or so west of Athens,
and it's if you look at a map, you'll notice
that it's like this peninsula hanging kind of dangling from
the rest of the Greek mainland by that narrow isthmus
Slippernth canal. So you can do it by way of
day trips. So there's lots of guided tours day trips
from Ethens. If you've got a bit longer, just self

(01:35:30):
drive your way around the region. It's a revelation and
it's a head blast with epic ancient history.

Speaker 2 (01:35:36):
That sounds so good. Hey, thank you, Mike, really really
appreciate that. Enjoy the game this afternoon without having made
any bold predictions. Eh, thank you, Jack good Man. Mike Yardley,
I travel correspondent there will put his tips for exploring
the Pallow Ponnese Peninsula and Greece up on the newstalk'sz'db website.
Thank you so much for your feedback. Bills look in
your note to say Jack, you know how career bags

(01:35:57):
are really strong, you know, sometimes they can be really
hard to open as well. They make great washable binliners.
I've used the same one for about three years. Wow, Bill,
that's impressive. Just wash it out with warm sobe water
when needed, says Bill. The record so far six out
of ten of Kate's plastic free so I was four

(01:36:18):
out of ten, which I thought was I thought was
pretty average. But six out of ten isn't. It's only
fifty percent improvement. It's not that far ahead, is it.

Speaker 5 (01:36:25):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
One close to ten out of ten. Year ninety two
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Speaker 5 (01:36:38):
Getting your weekends started.

Speaker 1 (01:36:40):
It's Saturday morning with Jack team on Newstalks EDB, New

(01:37:04):
Stalks B.

Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
You were Jack Tame just after eleven two on your Saturday.
Jason Pine has a vital job this afternoon getting us
all prepped and ready for the All Blacks kicking off
against Fiji San Diego of course at two thirty this afternoon.
Hey piney, Hey Jack, how are you feeling about this one?
Is there any possibility do you think that maybe we're

(01:37:25):
just taking this game a little too lightly? I wouldn't
have thought so.

Speaker 25 (01:37:29):
I think when the All Blacks play FIGI we should
expect the All Blacks to win that game, you know,
much as Fiji have improved markedly in recent years. They
beat England at twicken them last year beat Australia at
Rugby World Cup. That's a low bar, of course, but
you know they have improved the fact that this game
is at a neutral venue probably doesn't help either side.

Speaker 4 (01:37:49):
Really.

Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
I think if it was up in Suva and you and.

Speaker 25 (01:37:51):
I talked, you know, on the Drive show yesterday about
how good it would have been if we were looking
forward to a game in Fiji, we're not.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
I don't know if that plays into it. The All
Blacks should win.

Speaker 25 (01:38:01):
A lot of guys going to get a chance to
debut this afternoon and push their case for play in
the Rugby Championship starting fifteen or off the bench. I
think it'll be pretty comfortable, but I'm looking forward to it.
I think after two tough test matches against England, I
don't think we'll have the stress levels we had the
last two cent No, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:38:20):
I think I think hopefully all going well that should
be the case. What do you make of this Warrior's
performance last night? I know Andrew Webs is not trying
to blame Janelle Harris Taveta, But this is going to
people will scoff at this. I reckon I could have
made those kicks, at least one of them. At the end,
I feel very confident I could have made it that conversion.

Speaker 25 (01:38:41):
And look, I think most people would say the same.
But you know, more correctly, most people, most professional rugby
league players who are in charge of place kicking, would
make that. And yeah, it wasn't the reason they lost, no,
but the fact remains, if that kick goes over the
one that the last one he misses, the scores are
level and we're down a different path.

Speaker 4 (01:39:00):
Right.

Speaker 25 (01:39:00):
It just feels like another one that got away from
the Warriors. You know, it's very very hard to to
unpick what's going on. Remember at the start of the season, Jack,
you know, this is a team largely built on last
year's team that was so good, plus with some additions
the likes of Roger to Varsischek Chanel, Harris Tavita, Kurt Capewell.
You know, it's a good team. And now we're into

(01:39:22):
mathematical possibility discussion again. When it comes to the top eight.
We were all hoping this would be top four, even
top two, and it just hasn't gone to plan at all.
So yeah, we will unpack that this afternoon straight away,
after midday, actually before we start our rugby build up.
But as you say, look I only have to get
us through to a round two thirty this afternoon, so

(01:39:42):
it's actually depending which way you look at it, the
show's either shorter or longer than it usually is. Yeah,
I don't have quite as much to do, but I
am looking forward to Elliott Smith and Frank Buntz bringing
us this call this afternoon.

Speaker 12 (01:39:54):
Good.

Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
And then of course this time next week the Olympic
Games will have officially started. At the very least we
will have had the opening ceremony and those couple of
sports that start early and that kind of thing. How
are you feeling about it?

Speaker 22 (01:40:04):
Oh?

Speaker 25 (01:40:04):
So excited. I love an Olympic Games, and look I
just can't wait to become an expert in fencing and
wrestling and sport climbing.

Speaker 2 (01:40:12):
I wanted to say about the gym, like the floor
competitions and the gymnastics, Yeah, absolutely, all that stuff.

Speaker 25 (01:40:18):
Yeah, you know, for two weeks every four years, we
become experts in sports we never normally watch. Yeah, I
love the Olympic Games and I cannot wait to be
part of our coverage of it over the next two weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:40:29):
We'll say it's going to be epic. Thank you so much, sir.
Looking forward to shafternoon, Jason pine behind the mic for
weekend sport. He will be with us right after twelve
o'clock and as Piney mentioned Elliot Smith, the voice of
Rugby on Newstalks, he'd be joined by Frank Bunce for
that call the All Blacks taking on Fiji in San
Diego from two thirty our time this afternoon twenty five
to twelve.

Speaker 5 (01:40:48):
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Speaker 2 (01:40:58):
Got three and a half out of ten. I'm glad
that I'm not the only one doing halves on Cake's
list of plastics that you might not need any house anymore.
He reckons that glad rap or cling film like plastic
rapp is the hardest one for him. I think that's
maybe one of the easy ones to get out in
my case anyway, if I just think about it, Because
you can use, you know, you can use You can

(01:41:20):
just get a bowl and just cover it with something else,
can't you if you're putting in the microwave? Yeah, and
you can wrap food and other things if you're putting
in a lunch box, can't you? Paul anyway ninety two
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me an email if you prefer twenty two to twelve
on news talks, he'd be in time to catch up
with Katherine Rain's our book reviewer this morning Tilder, Catherine,

(01:41:40):
Morning Jack. Okay, we've been talking about this new book
of yours about the Beckhams. Talk tell us about all
the details that the money, the sex, the power of
the beckham story.

Speaker 26 (01:41:50):
So this the idea of this was to piggyback on
the Netflix stock the Beckhams, which of course was produced
by themselves. So I don't think any of us were
only any illusion that it was a watson or confession
from them. But this book has kind of, to be honest,
every table story that you have probably ever whole ever read,

(01:42:10):
and it's you know, decades old things really, you know,
kiss and tales and gossip about attending parties and of course.
You know, it talks a lot about David Bemson fidelity,
alleged infatality and detailed accounts of his text messages and
travel history with people like Sarah Marbeck and Rebecca Lows
and Danie l. Heath and so you know that's kind
of what maybe their viewpoint were, you know, their marriage

(01:42:32):
viewpoint was like in two thousand and four or twenty
years ago, and so lots of that. I didn't find
anything new in that. And you know they talk about
the tom Bao. That author talks about the Beckhams being
obsessed with money so they have to remain this global
brand and constant public interest and a lot of allegations
about tax avoidance and decisions made with reading money in mind,

(01:42:53):
and you know, gaining status, and a lot about Beckham's
move to Real Madrid and then departure for America and
they were ready. He calls them mercenary decisions and about
financing and disputes, and yeah, the Victoria doesn't escape particularly
lightly herself. You know, he talks about her brand and
you know, being paid top dollar and people realizing that

(01:43:14):
she has no substance, and it's I guess and probably
the most revealing part of the book is when he
talks about David Beckham wanting a knighthood and he talks
about it being kiboshed by Victoria and nobody. I liked
the idea of Lady Victoria because she's got too many
houses and too many servants and doesn't tip in restaurants.
So and it's just, yeah, it's it's interesting about their

(01:43:36):
media profile, and you know, and you get to the
book and you wonder why they're still married.

Speaker 16 (01:43:41):
And you know, despite all of what Tom.

Speaker 26 (01:43:43):
Bowers, you know, talks about, you know, they do maintain
a position in pop culture, and they've built their brand
from the bottom up, really and you know, maybe they're
all both just a little bit smarter than we're giving them.

Speaker 2 (01:43:54):
A Yeah, okay, it sounds interesting. That's The House of
Beckham by Tom Bower. You've also read All the Colors
of the Dark by Chris Whitaker.

Speaker 26 (01:44:03):
To be a bit careful in how I tell the
narrative of the story, so I don't give too much
it away. But it takes place over twenty five years,
from nineteen seventy six to two thousand and one, and
it follows the life of two characters Saint and Patch
as they navigate their early teenage years to uphood in
the different pas that their lives take. And it's set
in the Ozarks, in a small town called Monte Clair

(01:44:23):
in Missouri, and it starts right at the end or
near the end of the Vietnam War. And at the
heart of this is Joseph and his nickname's Patch. And
he's a local boy who was born with one eye,
hence the nickname. And he has this amazing act of
bravery where he salv's wealthy family's daughter Missy from addiction
and sets off this chain of events that intertwines him

(01:44:45):
with lots of people around And so you get this
blend of a missing person story and a serial killer
thriller and a love story. And Patch's relationship with Saint,
his absolutely unwavering best friend, is showcases that power of
loyalty and persistence throughout. And it's a real dark and
gritty look at how trauma shapes lives and hope always

(01:45:05):
endures and friendship changes. And yeah, it's beautifully written, and
it's engrossing and completely captivating.

Speaker 2 (01:45:12):
Right, Okay, that sounds very very very good, very good. Okay,
that's all the Colors of the Dark by Chris Wedeker
Thanks Katherine. Catherine's first book, the completely different one was
The House of Beckham by Tom Bauer. If you're interested
in those books, you'll find the details on our website,
News Talks, heedb dot co dot inded Forward, slash Jack
and a couple of minutes on News Talks, he'd be

(01:45:33):
new music from the British artist. The British singer songwriter Griff,
who is kind of the big deal coming out of
the UK at the moment, just released her debut album,
So we're gonna have a listen to that.

Speaker 1 (01:45:44):
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Speaker 5 (01:45:52):
Used talks b.

Speaker 17 (01:45:55):
John the bag because the bottom, oh you could have
told mend my elbows with.

Speaker 2 (01:46:22):
This is anything. It's by Griff. She's a British singer
songwriter and it's just released her first album. The album
is called Vertigo. Stelle Clifford is our music reviewer. She's
been listening to the album Hey Stelle, oh.

Speaker 18 (01:46:37):
Morning, I'm loving on Griff. Her name is Sarah Griffiths,
but she decided that didn't sound like a pop singer.
It sounded like a forty year old mother with three
children in a career. And I was like, that's absolutely amazing.
So she just shorted it down to griff This is
an artist I've been following for a couple of years.
So a friend of mine went to a showcase she

(01:46:57):
has to come to New Zealand a couple of years ago,
I think, and she had some of it on Instagram,
and you know how you that's how we find people,
and we scroll and go down a rabbit hole, and
I just really loved kind of her whole esthetic and.

Speaker 8 (01:47:09):
Arty sort of vibe. Wiffy Griffy if you want to find.

Speaker 18 (01:47:12):
Her Instagram so you can tell she's a little bit
humorous in her approach to being a pot star. Back
in twenty twenty one, she won the Rising Star Award
at the brit Awards, right, and that kind of set
her on a trajectory where everything changes, you know, from
someone who's she self taught herself how to record and

(01:47:32):
produce music from some YouTube tutorials on her brother's laptop,
and that's kind of c where she started because you
can now and I love that that's what she wanted
to be, all of the parts of what a performer
and a singer songwriter is, and I think that's really awesome.
Couple of EPs she's released prior to this full debut album,

(01:47:55):
which means she's really starting to hone her craft. And
on top of that, after winning that Rising Star Award,
you know, she's opened for some artists like Dua Lipa,
Ed Sheeran, Coldplay, and then she's been on the Era's
tour with Taylor Swift. Yeah, big pop artists where you
can like, if you haven't honed your craft yet, you're

(01:48:15):
going to be learning as you go pretty quickly, right,
to be opening is a huge x like that. It's
led to some really cool relationships for her. I mean,
she's gone from being an eight year old girl on
her iPod listening to Tata to opening for her. But
then there's a song on this album called Astronaut and
Chris Martin of Coldplay is playing the piano on that song.

(01:48:37):
Cool collaborations, right, and I think really good inspiration for
her of what she's doing. But still this artist who's
like she is who she is, so she's not trying
to replicate those people or be anything else, but I
think beautifully influenced.

Speaker 8 (01:48:52):
By those people. Yeah, Voodigo is the lead.

Speaker 18 (01:48:57):
Single obviously from this album of the same name, which
I know you're going to play some of really soon.

Speaker 2 (01:49:02):
End.

Speaker 18 (01:49:02):
She actually said she wrote this in between being really
busy on tour, and I think when you listen to it,
and if you've ever had bodigo, it's horrible and it's
that kind of you know, when you feel really tipped
upside down and imbalanced. And she says, from the busyness
of what it is to be on tour, I think
you could also listen to it and it could.

Speaker 8 (01:49:19):
Be about a relationship. And I like that about her writing.

Speaker 18 (01:49:23):
There's a real vulnerability and emotional connection to what she's singing,
and those songs kind of work well to speak of
where she's at, but they speak to something else as well,
so you know, it's kind of all encompassing for your audience.

Speaker 8 (01:49:36):
There's these little in the production.

Speaker 18 (01:49:37):
There's there's these little tings and in sudden breaths like
that kind of almost.

Speaker 2 (01:49:43):
Panic like, yeah, like you're having a panic attack or something.

Speaker 18 (01:49:46):
Yeah, you know, not like when you're standing and they're
supposed jump off the sky tower. Or whatever, and everyone's
like that's your brain's like no, that's can't be real.
So it kind of has that kind of like sort
of urgency and panic about it. And I think it's
really clever mixing the production and she's really good at
that stuff, Like you get those beautiful catchy hooks and
melodies and harmony, but then there's little special things on

(01:50:08):
the production and it kind of is.

Speaker 8 (01:50:09):
Scattered right throughout the album, but you get to hear
very cinematic at times.

Speaker 18 (01:50:14):
She's someone I think one of her first music videos
very cinematic approach to her and danced and she sewed
all the costumes.

Speaker 8 (01:50:21):
Like what can't she do?

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
That's impressive.

Speaker 18 (01:50:25):
Yeah, definitely listen to the final track where Did You Go?
I mean listen to all of it, but that one
there's no instruments.

Speaker 8 (01:50:31):
It's all her voice.

Speaker 12 (01:50:32):
Oh.

Speaker 18 (01:50:33):
What I love about this is someone on her debut
album is showing us what she can do with her vocals,
and that's she's got a huge range.

Speaker 8 (01:50:42):
Yeah, she can go through quite a few octaves.

Speaker 18 (01:50:44):
But also just the cleverness because it took me actually
a couple of listens to go, hang on, I don't
think these are actual instruments, So taking some of the
recordings and she's distorted them to sound kind of like
a heavy guitar or bass kind of sound.

Speaker 2 (01:50:58):
Right. I thought you just meant like a total archipella track,
but she's she's made with her voice. Yeah, yeah, it.

Speaker 18 (01:51:04):
Still sounds Yeah, that wasn't really clear that yes, yeah,
So just these layers of production where you know that's yeah,
there's always just it's very very clever. And again I
didn't actually pick it straight away. Sort of get to
the end of an album and you're kind of listening
to the whole ethos of something, but actually you dive
in a bit deeper. Yeah, And it's really clever, and

(01:51:24):
it's kind of nice I think sometimes to know those
things before you go go into it bigger, more grandiose
production than probably she's done on her EPs. Again, that
says someone who's perfecting her craft and figuring out who
she is as an artist, and I.

Speaker 8 (01:51:39):
Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 18 (01:51:41):
You can go bigger in production and try some really
big soundscapes, but you can still be so vulnerable and
what you're singing about. Some of her lyrics are very
clever in what she's saying. I mean astronauts about someone
saying they want some space, right, Yeah, we'll go on
then go to space, you know, and you're.

Speaker 8 (01:51:59):
Like, oh, that's kind of you're still a bit of
tongue in sheet.

Speaker 2 (01:52:02):
Yeah, you're putting down there. Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:52:04):
And I think in a pop new escape, it's nice
to have those lyrics who have tried to be a
bit clever and a bit fun. Yeah, because at the
end of the day, that's what the music's about, right,
So yeah, thank you artists.

Speaker 8 (01:52:16):
Yeah, definitely worth. Get on with you, Griffy and check
out some.

Speaker 2 (01:52:19):
Of it's playing. She's playing in New Zealand, right, she's
touring here. She's come to the Power Station next month.

Speaker 11 (01:52:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:52:24):
Yeah, very good, live, real fun, nice work.

Speaker 2 (01:52:27):
Oh very good. Okay, would you give it?

Speaker 8 (01:52:29):
It's an eight out of ten, great eight.

Speaker 2 (01:52:30):
Out of ten for Verdico by griff Okay, we'll pick
out Vertigo so we can never listen to that song
as well.

Speaker 16 (01:52:35):
Thanks nice.

Speaker 2 (01:52:35):
You take care of Stelle. We will catching him very soon.
The style Clifford there with Us said is nine to
twelve on Newstalks EDB.

Speaker 1 (01:52:43):
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Speaker 2 (01:52:51):
Two thirty this afternoon, the All Blacks Fiji from San Diego,
Elliott Smith and Frank Barnt are going to have the
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to that game of course, Jason Pine is going to
be with us right after the twelve o'clock news. With weekends,
I'm gonna be back with you next Saturday morning, coinciding
with a kickoff of the twenty four twenty twenty four

(01:53:13):
Paris Olympics. Cannot wait for that until then for everything
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Thanks to my wonderful producer Libby for doing the tough stuff.
We're gonna leave you with Griff. Her debut album is
called Verdigo and this is a song by the same name.

(01:53:33):
I will see you next week.

Speaker 12 (01:53:36):
Well well, well, well a lord, start Phil, I tell
curs you talk hi, B you could to me. Oh

(01:54:06):
it's such a shame. And I wasn't asking for a lifetime.
I was just asking you to take her haad, just
for a minute or night?

Speaker 2 (01:54:18):
Was it too much to ask?

Speaker 12 (01:54:20):
You're scared of the lines. That's vertical. You wanted life,
Go see Sal. You ran away. That's cutching gold. You're
scared of love. Well all you felt alive. That's klinical.
You felt secure. That's called home. Couldn't take me, that's lexical.
You're scared of love for all? Well, aren't we all.

Speaker 5 (01:54:52):
Thought that I could be alone.

Speaker 17 (01:54:54):
Change you, not that I could be alone in the boom.

Speaker 5 (01:54:57):
I'm just affecting rocom of things.

Speaker 12 (01:54:59):
Before I thought, lady, I could fix you too. I
wasn't asking for a life time. I was asking you
to take my head. Just a million nine wasn't too much.

Speaker 14 (01:55:11):
Too ice.

Speaker 12 (01:55:13):
You're scared of hens. That's where to go. You wanted
Life's go see Sal. You ran away. That's rue. You're
scared a lot well will you felt alive?

Speaker 8 (01:55:25):
That's chinical.

Speaker 12 (01:55:27):
You felt secure.

Speaker 19 (01:55:28):
That's called home.

Speaker 12 (01:55:29):
Couldn't take that's Mexico.

Speaker 8 (01:55:32):
You're scared a.

Speaker 5 (01:55:33):
Lot fell We all said, look, and then we do.

Speaker 12 (01:55:37):
You'll bet your pascone and you think you got foll
have to your fl.

Speaker 5 (01:55:44):
That's happen you you start hides.

Speaker 2 (01:55:47):
That's where to go.

Speaker 12 (01:55:48):
You want to life, go see your show.

Speaker 11 (01:55:51):
You a way, that's touch you go.

Speaker 12 (01:55:53):
You're scared a lot of found but all were happy.

Speaker 5 (01:55:57):
All you.

Speaker 12 (01:56:07):
Scared hurts that's vertical. Your line lights go seasho you anyway,
that's touchingle you scare all well? Line Real Well, Line Real.

Speaker 1 (01:56:19):
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