Full Show Podcast: 21 December 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 2 (00:45):
Welcome to Saturday Mornings with Jack tam I'm free Hiscubudkin
filling in for Jack on his final show of the year.
It is a pleasure to be with you right coming
up this hour. Go to the movies might not be
front of mine at this time of the year, but
post Christmas it is such a good thing to do.
Get out of the heat and into air conditioning for
a couple of hours or past the time on a
rainy day, and from the twenty sixth of December, there

(01:08):
are some really good films to enjoy. So Chris Schultz
is going to run us through a few of them.
Andrew Saville joins us with his sporting Highlights of the year,
and Nicky Wicks has a peach, raspberry and blueberry trifle
cake for us. Sounds good, doesn't it, Francesca, how good

(01:28):
is the news about Liam Lawson? Regardless of whether you're
a Sergio Perez fan, whether you think max Is Stepan
as a teammate, as a you know what you think
of him as a teammate or of Liam Lawson as
a driver. He has achieved something extraordinary, something is select
few accomplish, and secured himselves a coveted F one seat

(01:50):
the twenty twenty five. This is truly something to be celebrated.
We've always struggled as New Zealanders to know how to
deal with Kiwis who have great success. We love our
poppies to a point, and then we tend to tear
them down or at least shock them a little bit,
just ask them.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
So.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
While I don't propose a seismic cultural shift and lose
our generally humble and down to earth attitude, I do
think a shift in how we acknowledge success would be
a good thing. If we are to become the best
little country in the world, we need people in whatever
field they'rein to aspire to be the best, and yes,
that sometimes requires talking yourself up to be a winner.

(02:30):
Liam Lawson knows better than anyone the environment he's heading into,
the money, the politics, publicity, and the egos involved. No
team is going to pick the guy that says, oh yeah,
if there's a space available, I'd love it. They want
someone who says I can do this. I want to
be the best, and I will do what it takes
on and off the track. To be a successful if
one driver, you need an extraordinary amount of confidence in

(02:53):
yourself and your ability. It's a mental game as much
as a physical and technical one. In response to the announcement,
Liam Lawson said, to be announced as an Oracle Red
Bull Racing driver is a lifelong dream for me. This
is something I've wanted, wanted and worked towards since i
was eight years old. And it reminded me of a
conversation that I had with Kiwi IndyCar driver Marcus Armstrong,

(03:14):
another great young man. I asked him why New Zealand
drivers were doing so well around the world when they
often don't have the money or connections to help them,
and he said to me that it's because we sacrifice
so much to do it. We must succeed. It makes
us want to be the best. Lem has wanted this
since he was eight. Marcus left New Zealand at twelve

(03:35):
to follow his dream. Their success is in a fluke.
A lot of people have helped them get to where
they are, but ultimately them behind the wheel making things happen.
Their role models for other young kiwis encouraging them to
be audacious, to dream big and just go for it.
So to all the haters who came out online and
had to go at lem Lawson after Red Bull's decision
to hire him, I say, Merry Christmas, No one cares.

(03:59):
I for one can't wait for the twenty twenty five
season to kick off. And how much more fun is
it going to be to have a young k we
to support Francesco So Andrew Savil will be with us shortly.
He's going to give us his thoughts on just how
big this move is for Liam Lawson. Look as nothing else.
It's just really good to have a great news story

(04:21):
at the end of the year, isn't it anyway? Keen
to hear your thoughts? Are you're rivved up for f
one and twenty twenty five? Now with this news you
can text? On ninety two ninety two, Kevin Milne reminisces
about Christmas as a kid. Next here on News Talks
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Speaker 4 (04:36):
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Speaker 2 (04:46):
Kicking us off this morning is Kevin Milne, Good morning.

Speaker 5 (04:50):
Kevin, Good morning, FRANCHISECA.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Do you like Christmas? Do you enjoy this time a year.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
I don't enjoy this time of year. I like Christmas Day, right,
and I like I love everything afterwards the build up
Christmas is not my favorite time of the year.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Do you have a long list of things you have
to do? Do you given?

Speaker 5 (05:09):
Yeah, and usually miles behind in achieving any of those.
The other thing that was that I get a bit
frustrated is you get invited to so many different functions.
And I don't say that to show off, because most
of them invitations by corporate groups who I've had any

(05:30):
something to do with during the year, maybe invested some
money or something like that. And suddenly I mind that
they want to they want to share a little light
lunch with me before good I'm not interested in any
of that stuff.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Really, Okay, you can politely decline.

Speaker 4 (05:46):
I promise you.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
My favorite memory of Christmas as a child, right. I
was brought up in the Catholic family, so every Christmas Eve,
the whole family, mom, dad, and the five kids would
head off in the car to midnight. Matt I was
the youngest, so I'd be woken up in the middle
of the night, dressed and then into the car with

(06:12):
the rest of the family to head to church. I
loved getting up in the middle of the night, it
seemed magical. But just as we're about to head out
the gate, it seemed every year my mother would announce
she'd forgotten something. She'd have to head back inside for
a minute. It used to drive me nuts. Why was
she always forgetting things? Anyway, Eventually we'd head off to

(06:35):
midnight match, getting home again about an hour later. When
we got back inside, something miraculous had happened under the
tree for all our presents. They went there when we left.
Father Christmas had been while we were out, and we
were allowed to open our presence there and then before

(06:55):
heading off to bed. It wasn't until many years later
Francesca the penny dropped I realized there was a link
between my mother forgetting something and having to go back
inside and the fact that magically there were always presents
under the tree when we got home. I don't go
to church anymore, but as a kid I just loved

(07:16):
that whole magical midnight mass routine. My only regret was
that we always seem to just miss out onseeing Father
Christmas himself. There were great memories, really, Francesca, and I'd
like to wish all our listeners are very, very happy Christmas.
I was at a funeral yesterday of a gorgeous forty

(07:38):
two year old woman who'll be terribly missed this Christmas.
So my heart goes out this year, especially the many
listeners who will be spending their first Christmas this year
without a loved one.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
Yeah, that's my great heart goes out to you.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
Yeah, no, that's a really lovely thought. You just reminded
me of one of my sort of childhood Christmas memories.
When I was little, we used to go to church
on Christmas Day, an Anglican church, and we weren't allowed
to open the majority of our Of course, you know,
Santa will have arrived, which was great, and maybe we
were allowed to open one or two presents, but we
weren't allowed to open the majority of them. We got home,

(08:16):
I had been allowed to open something before we got
to church, and then when we left the church, the
vicarcita said, and I was about five at the time.
I can still remember sort of, you know, with those
lovely small dresses that mums used to make, and things
and and what did you get for Christmas? And then
I promptly lifted up my dress to show on my
new nickers, much to my much to my mother's horror.

(08:40):
I don't actually that. We kind of went to church
after that. I just thought, well, got.

Speaker 5 (08:46):
These here we are you managed to share.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
I'm happy. I am happy to say that was that
was something that I was. I was through by the
time where I was six. So there we go. Merry
Christmas to you, Kevin. Thank you for those lovely thoughts today.
I think you've hit the nail on the head there.
Lovely to talk to you today. Take you eighteen of
past nine.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
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Speaker 2 (09:19):
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(10:23):
pressure the knock can understand the pressure the knockers not
to mention the financial commitment while you're trying to make
the grade and motor racing as a parent or as
a competitor. Trust me, we fully relate to this so huge,
huge congratulations to the Lawson family and the McLoughlin's and
Scott's parents and everybody involved. Thank you very much for

(10:44):
your text and joining us now to talk sport is
Andrew Saville.

Speaker 5 (10:48):
Good morning, Francesca.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Merry Christmas to you and to you too. I was
just saying, you know, it's amazing. It takes quick announcements
made about Liam Lawson and all, and the haters come out,
and the knock has come out and all the kind
of thing. I'm just going to stop for a minute,
regardless of what you think of him as a driver,
regardless of what you think think of the team. Actually,
this is huge.

Speaker 6 (11:10):
It is, it is, and I think i'd imagine I'd
imagine that a very very high percentage of those knockers
or haters, if I can use that term, would be
from overseas. It would be Sergio Periz fans, maybe Red
Bull fans. There's no doubt about it, though, that Liam
Lawson has got to where he's got because he's talented,

(11:32):
he's hard working, and Red Ball for a long time,
five or six years, have clearly seen something in him
that they love, not necessarily driving only driving on the track,
but the feedback, the engineering feedback he gives to teams.
He was their test driver, he's been the assimulating driver
for a number of years as well, and that all

(11:53):
adds in to the fact that he's now elevated to
the best team even though they didn't win the constructors
title this year because of a Stafan as the world champion.
I think it's what one of the best teams, if
not the best team. They have been for several years.
So it's quite amazing really, it's quite remarkable for New
Zealand sport and New Zealand to have a young kiwi

(12:16):
in a position like that for the first time since
Denny hum and Bruce McLaren in the sixties, a long, long,
long time ago, Chris Aymon in the seventies. It's a
remarkable achievement and I don't think you can you can
try and put it into context around other sport, but
it's it's an infinitesimal percentage amount that a young New

(12:41):
Zealand kid gets to drive, and if one let alone,
one of the greatest teams in the history of Formula One.
So I think Liam and his family, his families worked
bloody hard over the years and his private backers in
New Zealand that have backed them all the way from
when he was a young kid. Because he has been

(13:01):
getting basically no money to drive. He's had to have
private sponsors look after from the last several years to
survive in Europe and living costs.

Speaker 7 (13:12):
And what have you.

Speaker 6 (13:13):
That will now change when whether he's on the massive
millions that the staff and the Hamilton mat make. I
don't think at this point he is or will be.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
He's got time, Andrew, He's got time, that's right.

Speaker 6 (13:25):
I mean, he's only twenty two and if he performs
next year and year after the year, that's when the big, big,
big money will come for Liam Lawson.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah, I don't know if you heard me earlier. I
was saying that I had the pleasure of talking to
Marcus Armstrong this year and I said to him, why
do you why do we have so many keywis at
the top of sort of Indy car or you know,
and now in Formula one and things. And he just
said to me, he said, it's because we make such
a huge sacrifice to follow our dream. You know, our
families make a surprice. We have sex price. You can't

(13:55):
You've just got to be in it. You have to succeed.
I thought that was a really interesting comment to make
you know that nothing's been handed to these guys. They
have as you say, it's written over the years.

Speaker 6 (14:07):
Leam's family has put everything on the line and and
now the rewards will come. Carting in New Zealand is
strong and then the kids that perform and that go
through you know, but again there's been hundreds of kids
that go through carding and then to Europe and never
and never reached that that top goal of Formula One.

(14:27):
It is extremely hard to get a seat like Liam
Lawson has got. Red Bull's not doing it out of
charity or the goodness of their heart. Is very very cutthroat.
You have to be skilled, you have to be hard
working and you have to have a lot of support
around you and that's what Liham Lawson's had for many,
many years.

Speaker 2 (14:45):
What are some of your other sporting highlights of the
Andrew What have you enjoyed?

Speaker 6 (14:50):
Gee whiz, there's been so many and looking through the
Hallberg finalists that came out the other day, it's been
it's been a fantastic year and the Zealand sport you
had the Olympics of course, best ever Meddal Hall, Lisa Carrington,
Elise Andrews, Lydia Colem, a Twig and a Grimaldi. In
the Power Games, Finn Butcher, Hamish Kerr, Hayden Wild Black

(15:11):
Fund seven's the rowing team as well. Outside of that,
Emma Ratler, who's the world number one doubles player, Chris
Wood starring in the Premier League a little like Liam Lawson.
You know, it's a very very small percentage of footballers
from around the world to get to play in the APL,
let alone be a star in the Premier League in
England and Chris Woods one of those. Team New Zealand

(15:34):
winning the America's Cup again, White Ferns.

Speaker 2 (15:36):
Don't forget the White World Cup chams.

Speaker 6 (15:40):
Completely out of the blue. That was one of the
other major sporting highlights. So all round, I think it's
been it's been a fantastic year. And then if we
look to twenty twenty five, starting with the first Grand
Prix March, all eyes are going to be on Liam Lawson.
Then there's a lot of other sport during the year
which we will focus our attention.

Speaker 2 (16:01):
And it's been great to see Auckland FC takeoff as strong.

Speaker 6 (16:05):
And today in Auckland and Western United, which it's a
team from just out of Melbourne.

Speaker 5 (16:10):
Mate, I think they tick.

Speaker 6 (16:12):
Off about five o'clock and yeah, they've they've done some
fantastic things, will we so looking forward to the summer
ahead and you've got the tennis willing to Phoenix, Aukland,
f C Sale GP in Auckland and mid Jan a
lot of a lot of things to look forward to
other summer the next year. But I think a lot
of New Zealanders will now become instant if one fans
they haven't already Francesca.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Oh, absolutely, absolutely, yeah, why not when you've got you know,
when you've got you know, you've got a key drive
to survive.

Speaker 6 (16:42):
Yes, but Netflix crew were following leam Mawson around last
summer back in New Zealand, so I think that might
have been a little indication that big things were ahead
for them.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
Yeah, no, and that it is a brilliant way to
introduce people to the sport. I've got a daughter who's
pretty obsessed with F one. But you know, we don't,
we don't do Drive to Survive anymore because it doesn't
give you the real story. She'll tell you the people.
You need to go. You to follow Andrew in order
to get on the story.

Speaker 8 (17:09):
You know.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Oh yeah, no, I'm very much put in my place.
Every time I mentioned how much I enjoy Drive Its life,
she just sort of, oh.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
Really, it's fantastic, Andrew.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Have a really great break with the family. Thanks for
the contribution to the year. Always wonderful. What to hear
your thoughts on sport? Will you be participating in any
sport over the summer?

Speaker 6 (17:28):
It's competitive eating, you take it, you take it. I'd
probably go for gold on that the next couple of weeks,
and then apart from that it'll be in the sun
in christ DUTs or the far North and then back
into the sporting year. Looking forward to it.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
Sounds divine. Thanks so much, Andrew. Lots of great movies
around for the family to enjoy it over the holidays.
Chris Choltz is with us next with some of his suggestions,
and I just might throw on a few thoughts myself.
It is nine point thirty.

Speaker 7 (17:59):
You're so good for gitar skin.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
This is Saturday morning, so I'm Francisca filling in for
Jack with you until midday. Thanks you feedback. Morning Francisca
after fifty five years of following Formula one. It's giving
me goosebumps and brought tears to my eyes only which
my Formula one mentor my dad wasn't around to see
all the coverage we get now was or wasn't not sure,
but no, everyone seems just really quite excited and very

(18:41):
moved about the slam laws of news.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
So that is.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Excellent, right, Chris Schultz is with us in the studio.
Now is Talk Entertainment. Good morning, Good morning. Okay, you've
got a couple of films which are streaming for us
to talk about. First, let's have a listen to carry on.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
You're a low level tear so you're going nowhere. I'm
telling you how this goes one bag for one life.
We are I'm gonna go you listen to.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Okay, I don't know whether it's this time of year,
and I don't have a huge amount of time to
watch something if it doesn't grab me immediately. But this film,
I thought I'll take a quick look at this, and
it sort of starts and you've got this character who
works at an airport and he's on security and someone
makes him mention that there is a hearing aid. It's

(19:36):
sort of a little hearing aid device left, and so
he puts it in his ear. Now, who does that?
So at that point I went, I'm not sure I can.
I've got other things to do. Christmas is coming.

Speaker 9 (19:48):
It's pretty far fetched, and it doesn't really get any
less far fetched than that. At one point in this movie,
someone drives one of those buggies out to a plane
that's about to take off, dives into the cargo hold
and the plane they let it go. Like imagine being
a passenger on that plane. You'd be calling the police.
Everyone will be shutting that down, and no, they just
let it take off. It is that kind of movie.

(20:09):
But that voice you just heard, that's Jason Bateman. I
had to laugh. I watched this with my son last night,
and that was his first experience of Jason Bateman, A
very different experience to when I first saw him in
Arrested Development doing comedies. He's a villain in this, and
he's I think he's quite good. I think he's kind
of stern and he looks awful. He's got a baseball

(20:29):
cap and he's giving instructions to this border security agent.
I quite like the first half where they make the
tension that you feel when you're putting your luggage through
those scanners and you're going through the body scanners just
so much worse. It's at LAX. They filmed this at
an abandoned airport that's filling in for LAX, and I've

(20:50):
had some shocking experiences there like everyone, and I haven't
had one this bad though, where there's a terrorist and
they're trying to get something onto a plane to do
a certain thing and they're using a border agent to
do it. I look, this is a Christmas movie apparently,
really in the same way that Die.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Hard, because it said at Christmas time and everyone's going
on holiday, so the airport's really busy, which adds to
the tension.

Speaker 9 (21:11):
And there's a few Christmas songs in there to lighten
the mode. But I'm not mad at that. If you've
done all your Christmas presents and you've filled the stockings
and you need to mindless two hours, this will do it.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
This is on Netflix. You're right, it might be the
perfect film to watch on Boxing Day when you throw
it all and you can actually you actually feel like
you've got the time to waste. Let's have a listen
to during number two.

Speaker 10 (21:35):
And they had something we got called for jury duty,
the kind of a case. Maybe I didn't edit there.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Okay, this is directed by Clint Eastwood. And why isn't
this all at the cinemas?

Speaker 9 (22:03):
I don't know, it should be right, Yeah, yeah, it'd
be great in a cinematic experience. It's it's streaming. You
can rent it, I think to on a lot of
different platforms. So this is a courtroom drama, very simple setup,
but it's also quite far fetched. Like carry on, if
I'm going to try and describe it. It's a dura.

(22:24):
It's a journalist who gets picked for jury duty, and
as the trial starts it's a murder case, he realizes
that he actually may be the cause of the murder
and not the guy who's on trial for it. So
that's the setup which you need some suspension of disbelief there.
But they do pull it off. They really win. They

(22:45):
play it very straight, very serious. The actors in this
are big names. Tony Collette always incredible. She's the prosecuting
lawyer in this, and I think that's probably why I
bought into it, because she's just always so good. Yeah,
and she's in most of the movie. So yeah, this
is again, it's it's a it's a it's a standard

(23:07):
story told pretty straight with a few dramatic flares.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
But is it mostly set in the courtroom. There's some
flashbacks outside?

Speaker 9 (23:16):
No, really, no, there's a lot of flashbacks. Yeah, but no,
it's mostly in the court room and in the jura room.
So that's probably the best. But I mean, like, I'm
a journalist. I don't get called for jury duty. They
don't let me do it, and so that's also something
that's a bit far fetched, right as a journalist on
jury judy, I sort of was like, oh, no, that
doesn't happen. But I did like the behind the scenes

(23:37):
meschinations of like choosing whether someone's guilty or innocent. There's
a lot of that in there, and that's I don't know,
I'm into it.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
I liked it.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Excellent, well, I think anything. I mean, Clint Eastwood, he's
steady as a director, isn't he always?

Speaker 9 (23:52):
He doesn't know, He's like Ridley Scott. He doesn't need
to be doing How old is he must be late.

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Eighties, surely I'll google that. A lot of good films though,
coming through the holidays and as I've mentioned this morning,
Actually the cinema is a great place to be if
it gets too hot, or if it's if you've got
a few rainy days. Looks like there's a little bit
of rain on the way. It's said. It was a
great place to go, and there's some really good flicks
coming out Air Calm underrated, Yeah, I know.

Speaker 8 (24:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (24:16):
Thereas Boxing Day as a huge day, Honora as a
Palm deal winner. That is for the adults. Definitely Sonic
the Hedgehog, three of the franchise that just keeps on going.
I don't know how, but it's super popular. That's out.
You will not find me at the Robbie Williams Monkey Movie.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
I'm sorry. No, it's great fun. No, I was, I'm
not doing it. I was skeptical before I went as well,
because I just thought, okay with that, you know, Michael Gracie,
he's taken a gimmick and I'm not sure if it's
gonna work. And do you know what I'm not. I'm
not even a huge Robbie Williams fan. And I went
along and I laughed and I cried and I walked

(24:54):
out with a big smile on my face. It's just
the dose of it's just feel good. It's honest. It's
got his charm and his witness naughtiness.

Speaker 11 (25:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
I think you're being unfair. I think you should give
it a bit all right, Maybe you sold that.

Speaker 9 (25:08):
The other thing I just want to shout out to
is in January, the Christopher Nolan Imax season is beginning.
They're putting all of Chris Nolan's movies on at Imax again.
If you're in Auckland or you're coming to it's amazing,
all of the Batman movies, ten and Interstellar. If you
missed Oppenheimer on Imax, you get a chance to see
that again. They should be doing this with New Zealand's
bigger screen so much more so.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
That's a really great idea and a really good use
of that screen. Paddington and Peru, of course, my daughter,
My daughter's excited about when the Paddington films are great.
They're really great family films and I think they do
cater to both adults and children. Maybe, Chris, yeah.

Speaker 9 (25:43):
I think you're probably gonna find me more at a
nos Feratu, this horror.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Movie that's out on January.

Speaker 9 (25:49):
I'm more likely to go to that. I won't tell
my daughter to that.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
But for those out there, so Paddington Prue. This is
the third film Olivia Coleman, isn't it. She sings a
song like it's the sound of music. It's absolutely fantastic.
I've actually got Hugh Bonnyville on the Sunday session tomorrow
after ten and he's going to talk about it, and
also he's got some sets some news for Downton Abby
fans as well. Did you mention Wallace and Grommet?

Speaker 4 (26:12):
I did not?

Speaker 9 (26:13):
Is that still goy?

Speaker 2 (26:14):
I didn't even know that was.

Speaker 9 (26:15):
I mean, look, we're all just kind of killing time
to squid Game season two lands right.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
We're going to talk about that. We're going to talk
about that as well a little bit later on. Have
you seen Conclave too? Just very quickly because we've gotten there.
You're right, there is so much coming out in the
new year. So this is out on January ninth, and
this is a recommendation from myself. It's the one with
ra fines and it it's the one where they need
to select a new pope. Have you heard about this?
So this played at the British and Irish Film Festival

(26:43):
recently and it's coming back on the ninth and it's
absolutely fantastic, So write that one down. You were right
about Anura as well. That's another really good one for
the adults. Actually, this is interesting. Elliot Smith, who listeners
will know as our news talks. He'd be sports journalist
and also the voice of Rugby, knows everything about Rubby,

(27:04):
very very good taste in film. And when he goes
on tour like his is off, he might have an
afternoon or an evening spare. So when he was doing
the Northern tour with the All Blacks, he had he
had two little sort of spare afternoons. He goes to
the movies and he came back and he saw during
number two in a cinema they're playing in the cinemas
in France, which he enjoyed, and he came back and said,

(27:24):
you've got to see Innaura and I thought it was
the goodness me. Elliott hidden, just hidden, You're just a
hidden talents. He's got very good taste in music as well. Hey,
thank you so much for filling in through the year.
I know you pop up on Jack Show and of
course on a Sunday session. It's It's always good to
have you on board. Thanks for having have a lovely crusters. Yeah,
I appreciate it. It is a seventeen to ten News TALKSB.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
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Speaker 2 (27:57):
I thank you very much. Texts Clint Eastwood is ninety
four years old doing well, isn't he good on them?
Time for a recipe now? And Nicky Wicks is with us.
Lovely to have you. Good morning, Good morning, Francesca. Are
you under control for Christmas?

Speaker 12 (28:15):
Oh?

Speaker 13 (28:16):
I think is under control as you can be at
this time of year. I mean, look, if you're with
friends and family, who cares this will go wrong?

Speaker 11 (28:24):
Things will go right whatever.

Speaker 13 (28:26):
I'm just relaxed about it. You know what, can you do?

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Very good approach?

Speaker 13 (28:31):
It amazes me because every year it's as though the
twenty fifth. It's not like somebody you know randomly just
says Okay, it's gonna be the.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
You know it's coming.

Speaker 13 (28:38):
But every year you know, yeah exactly, you know what's coming.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
But there you go. You have got a Christmas trifle
cake for us today peach, raspberry and blueberry trifle cake.
You say it's really easy. Why in the back of
my mind? And I always think trifles hard.

Speaker 13 (28:56):
I know it's crazy, isn't it. And look, I'm pulling
this one out as the last one before Christmas. And
for those of you who are feeling out of control
and perhaps had planned a complicated dessert, can it and
do this one? It is super simple. I don't love
a trifle done in a bowl because you sort of
scoop it, and I don't know, unless you've got one
of those fancy clear bowls, glass bowls, I think it

(29:17):
ends up looking like a train wreck. This is a cake,
so it sits proudly, but it's moist and delicious and
it's exactly like a trifle.

Speaker 11 (29:25):
And look here I go.

Speaker 13 (29:27):
Listeners, close your ears if you're If you're a iron
must make everything from scratch. But this involves two straw
bought trifle sponges. You can make your own if you want.
Line a twenty centimeter spring form cake tin with baking
paper and then extends the height of the sides kind
of up with with a sort of double layer of
baking paper. So you've got sort of like a collar

(29:48):
if you like. Cut one of the sponges through the middle,
and then you want to make those sponges, which generally
come round or square, but if it's square, you want
to make it round. Leave one thick one, and then
you've got two thinner sponges by cutting one of them
in half through the middle, and then cut them to
the shape of your tin, and press one the thick
sponge into the base of the tin. Francesca. Then you

(30:10):
want to take a quarter, I mean a quarter a
third of the sherry and I've used seventy five meals,
and you want to sprinkle that over the custard, because
every good trifle has to have a little bit of
shit in there. If you're not into that, you can
always use orange juice. You want to top this then
with a layer of beautiful peach slices, and just a

(30:30):
layer of those around the edges, and then in the middle.
Really right fresh peaches are great. You're going to use
two cups of them, or you can use some really
simptined peaches as fine. Scatter over a third of a
punish of raspberries, and I squished them a little bit
because they're going to look really great bleed into the
sort of custard filling. And then you want to put

(30:51):
over some of a about two hundred meals of thick custard.
This is not an ad, but I do use the
meadow Fresh because they have an extra thick one and
that's the.

Speaker 14 (31:02):
One you want to use.

Speaker 13 (31:02):
Here, put another layer of sponge on top, the same
thing with the sherry, the fruit, the custard right until
you've got that last layer of sponge, and then top
the first laer the last layer with a bit of sherry.
Of course, press it down semi firmly all over. I
even put sometimes a dinner plate on top of it.
And then into the fridge it goes, and it can

(31:24):
really stay there for a couple of days if you like.
And it's quite good if it does, because all the
beautiful juices from the peaches, the raspberries, the blue and
everything that just kind of soaks in. And then just
before serving, whip up a bit of cream three hundred
miles of cream. We'll get you there easy, and spoon
that over and then cut some I used a punet

(31:44):
of blueberries here. Scatter over some blueberries. I'd leave some
hole in some cut and you'll have some remaining raspberries
at the stage too, scatter over some slithered almonds, because
every good trifle has a decent crunch to it, and
then dust it all with icing sugar. And that's the
graing is those blueberries. They pick up the icing sugar
so they sort of look like snow. And then you

(32:06):
really to serve and that's just on a plate, sharp knife,
cut it into big wedges.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Oh, it's absolutely delicious. And I love the way you
can do this a day or two before the chaos,
you know, so it can be done and ready to go,
and you can go. By the time we get to dessert,
I'm sorted. I don't need to get up and do
too much else.

Speaker 13 (32:24):
Yeah, and that is the key for anyone feeling out
of control, do as much as again. That actually an
effect is why a ham is so great as well,
because it doesn't have to be served hot. Salmon is
great for that. And any sort of dessert that can
be done like this a day or two a head.

Speaker 14 (32:38):
I'm loving it.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
So there you go.

Speaker 13 (32:40):
Merry Merry Christmas.

Speaker 15 (32:41):
Everyone, have a beautiful.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Time and a merry merry Christmas to you. Thank you
so much for your contribution to Saturday Mornings throughout the
year are always inspiring. Nicky, Thank you so much.

Speaker 13 (32:53):
It's an episode highlight for me. I love sharing these
recipes with our beautiful listeners.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Thank you very much too for your feedback. This morning.
Somebody says, oh, my gosh, totally understand read that movie.
We watched it last night. I think this person's talking
about carry on. They said, we watched it last night
and it was pretty far fetched Christmas even no people
in sight, no matter scene worse. Happy Christmas, Francisca, and
to you too. And that's the thing. I mean, it's
absolutely fine for movies to be far fetched at this

(33:20):
time of the year. We are all about the escapism,
aren't we, because there's a lot going on in our lives,
and that's what we want to sit down and have
a little bit of escapism. I think I was just
in one of those moods, you know, sometimes you do
sit down and maybe you're just not in the mood
to go do I have an hour and a half
for this, and so that was how I was feeling
about that. Thank you too for your comments on Liam Lawson.

(33:43):
Hi Franchisca, your comments on Liam Lawson making the Red
Bull if one team absolutely spot on. Let's celebrate this
to the max. Let's support him next year with positive
energy and enthusiasm. That was from Phil Brat. Text to say, Francisca,
A lot of people don't realize that Liam was driving
a substandard car for Red Bull. Even Yuki's car was
of highest speech. So he did well competing in this car.

(34:03):
He will now be driving the top tier cars. It'll
be exciting to watch his progress. And another text to say, sadly,
there are a lot of key he was knocking Lawson
as well, the tall poppy knockers. I'm just so over
the tall poppy syndrome. Honestly, let's just be done with it.
And another text here, I'm a fifty nine year old
male out in my shed listening to Newstalks e B.

(34:26):
Mister Milne's childhood story has filled my ears, my eyes, sorry,
filled my eyes with tears. How beautiful. Thank you for
your feedback. You can touch base anytime throughout the morning.
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Speaker 2 (34:51):
Now a good friend of mine. This week I was
having a chat to her and she said how she
had almost been someone had tried to scam her, but
the bank thankfully had stopped it then had canceled her
cards and she didn't lose any money or anything. But
she did make the point that it was kind of
clear to her that who had the people who tried
to scam he had quite a lot of information. They
had her email and phone numers and all sorts of
things like that, and she was a lot of when

(35:11):
she said, oh, you know, she'd be concerned about this,
and I said, well, you probably should change your passwords,
and she looked me into yeah, probably should change my passwords,
and we kind of there was that knowing glance between
us when we went, what's the bet she never gets
around to changing her passwords? Because so many of us,
I mean, it's it's you know, it's quite a laborious
thing to do. It's not a sexy New Year resolution,

(35:34):
but it is probably something we should all consider doing
at the beginning of next year, is updating and making
sure we've got really good, solid passwords it can be
a mission. But Paul Stenhouse is going to be with
us next out and he's going to make it really easy.
He has got passwork, he's got his password security one
oh one lecture for us, and he is going to
get us sorted so that we do that. Yes, some

(35:57):
on my list as well. It just kind of keeps
getting moved to the bottom of the list, and it
shouldn't be. It's actually really important. Okay. So at this
time of the year, we're all thinking, of course about
being with loved ones, about spending quality time with people
in our lives, and quite often that involves food. So
who better to have on the show than award winning

(36:18):
Kiwi chef Mark Gregory. Now, Mark he has spent his
career he has cooked for royals, for presidents, sports legends,
movie stars, but he knows a little something about just
cooking for your family as well. He has released a
beautiful new book. It's called Christmas at the Castle Cookbook. Yes,
Mark does live in a castle. We're going to be

(36:40):
talking about that as well, and he's got some beautiful
recipes in here. But also he's thought really clearly about this,
and he's got fun things and games and other things
that you can do at Christmas time to have a
wonderful time. Other thing, though, is that Mark also understands
the importance of giving back and fighting food and security.

(37:00):
So we're going to have a talk about that as well.
Mark Gregory is with me after the news. Next here
on news Dogs.

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Sin on mittle feeling when.

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Rocky ran the Christmas Tree.

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When you eat it bers.

Speaker 8 (38:22):
Let's be jolly bars with bars of hoy talking.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Rack Christmas tree. Have a happy holiday.

Speaker 17 (38:34):
Everyone dance it fairly in the news Oh fast Shine.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
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Speaker 2 (39:24):
This is Saturday Mornings. I'm Francisca Budkin filling in for
Jack Tame with you until midday. Lovely to have you
with us. Coming up this our squid game is back.
Are you up for it? Taraward with the Rundown on
the news series, Doctor Brian Betty has some really sensible
reminders for staying healthy these holidays and root Climb past
is going to explain why we should head into the

(39:44):
garden with a UV torch that's coming up in the
next hour. Now Christmas has crept up on some of us,
but I can guarantee, as a man who has been
in hospital all his life, for our guest today will
be well prepared. Mark Gregory is a chef who has
worked around the world. He's cooked Royalty music, legends, sporting
greats and has spent decades in top European kitchens. He

(40:06):
also appeared on TV shows like Really Steady Cook and
the BBC's Good Food Show and make was the first
KEYI chief to be awarded both the Master of Culinary
Arts by the Royal Academy and France's Master Craftsman status
as well. He was in twenty twenty two inducted into
the Restaurant Association's Hall of Fame and as a founding
trustee of dine Aid, the charity for New Zealand's restaurant industry,

(40:28):
and he's a massive fan of Christmas as well.

Speaker 18 (40:30):
Good morning, good morning, Francesca.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Lovely to have you with us, and thank you very
much for the book Christmas at the Castle Cook.

Speaker 18 (40:37):
Yes, isn't it fun?

Speaker 2 (40:39):
It is fun? Clearly you do like Christmas, hence you've
done a book about it. Is it a favorite timing year?
Is it a favorite food time?

Speaker 18 (40:49):
It's a favorite for so many ways. We all know
it's full of hope and joy and things like that.
At Christmas, all roads lead home. So people come home,
and we have four children and six grandchildren and we
get to see them alther these days online on your
phone because they can't all be in the same country.
But I think food, yes, I think a lot of

(41:13):
our early memories are wrapped up around food and Christmas
times and having fun, you know, eating, playing games, hanging out,
falling out, cracking a joke, And for us, I wanted
to put all that into a book. So in the book,
there's loads of things to make and bake for Christmas,
loads of gifts you can make, and then the final

(41:35):
section chapter is play. So there's loads of games you
can play in fact our Top twelve, plus a load
of things you can make and do with the family
during the holidays. So it's about, I hope, spending time
and reconnecting.

Speaker 2 (41:49):
Do you have strong traditions around Christmas or do you
mix it up? Do you sort of have the same
you know, I think that family expects but then occasionally
throw on a surprise or two both.

Speaker 18 (42:00):
I'll tell you a true story. This morning, we're having
a little bit of a party tomorrow someday. And I've
got some tags out because in Italy, when people arrive,
you get them to write on a little card something joyous,
something positive, and you hang it on the Christmas tree.
So your Christmas tree has filled with lots of little
cards or tags filled with people's best wishes. I got

(42:23):
them out this morning, ready for tomorrow, and my wife said,
what have you got those out for? I said, oh,
for the traditional people put happy notes on the treesh goes.
Oh we're not doing that again, are we.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Oh you're bringing a bit of positive thing into Christmas.
Oh we're not doing many, I said, my darling, are
you wearing green today? As the Grinch just got out
of bed? Oh, blease, but you do live in a
real life castle, maybe as close as it comes do
having a castle.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
And it is.

Speaker 18 (42:54):
It was built one hundred years ago by a captain
and he built it for his Scottish wife who was
missing Scotland. So if any of anybody knows Takapuna and Milford,
it's on the waterfront between in Takapuna and Milford. A
lot of people walk past it, you know, each day
on the coastal walk. So we live there.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Oh, it's a wonderful spot. I know it I very much.
The minute I saw it in the book, I said
a bit.

Speaker 12 (43:18):
Ah.

Speaker 18 (43:19):
It puts a smile on our faces every morning we
wake up.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
You've got one of the best views in your kitchen
if you're going to stand at a bench and do
some cooking looking straight out at ring a total.

Speaker 18 (43:29):
I spent almost twenty five years working in underground kitchens
in London and other countries. So you go to work
on the underground, you work underground, You go home on
the underground for about five months of the year. You
don't you do not see daylight. So now with that view,
we never ever take it for granted.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
No, it's so spiritual. Are you a Christmas hair man
or a Christmas turkey.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
We do both.

Speaker 18 (43:55):
My son wild if we do not have a baked
hand with caramelized pineapple, basically he won't come home. However, turkey,
I whilst cooking for a long time, we found a
way to lock in the moisture in turkey. So turkey
in our house is actually rather nice and not dry

(44:16):
because all we do is brin it. The secret to
it is to brin it, okay, and it locks. You know,
when you have smoked salmon or smoked chicken, they're always moist.
If you brine a turkey, it will end up moist.

Speaker 11 (44:28):
I thought that the.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
Problem with the turkey was people just overcooked it and
hints it was dry.

Speaker 18 (44:32):
I think these days with probes. Yeah, there are a
couple of great recipes in the book, but get yourself
a temperature probe and basically probe the turkey, check it's done.
And also I think I do about thirty five minutes
per kilo something like that, and then give it an

(44:53):
extra thirty five minutes at the end.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
See it all just feels like it feels like such
hard root For me, I've given up and I've gone.

Speaker 4 (44:59):
For the turkey.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Roland. You know what I mean? Yes, would you fantastic?

Speaker 18 (45:03):
Look I talked to someone this week. They're having a
leg of lamb. I was with someone last week and
they're having salmon. They're going down to talk on anyway,
they're having salmon, which they're doing on a barbecue. But
if you want the easiest Christmas ever, charge everybody forty
dollars for coming and do a seafood platter. Make a
seafood platter because they are expensive, so do charge everyone.

(45:26):
It's a big thing around the world now where people
are beginning to charge family members to come for Christmas
Day because there is a cost of living squeeze, not
just here in New Zealand everywhere. But you buy it,
even crayfish, it's all cooked. All you've got to do
is take it out of the fridge, put it on
a platter, and every and it spoils everyone a.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Couple of salads. It's really interesting you talk about that
because it's been quite controversial sort of over the last
few years, when you know it's hit the news that
some you know, a family member charged her family to
come for Christmas. But actually it makes sense if you
haven't divvied up the work. If you're not all turning
up with a plate yes, or the salad or the
dessert or something. Then and if one person is doing

(46:10):
all the work, I think it's a great idea, makes
it it's.

Speaker 18 (46:13):
A bad sharing. I mean weddings to give an idea,
weddings around the world, from China to Italy. Quite often,
when you have a big wedding outside of the immediate family,
everyone else pays for their own ticket. So you have
these in many parts of the world and have done
for many decades. Huge weddings. No one can afford them,

(46:33):
but everybody who wants to come can come, so that
you can invite the whole village, but they know that
they pay their for their seat.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
There we go. The book has lots of side recipes,
which is great for vegetarians, especially.

Speaker 18 (46:45):
My wife's a veggie side So that's why.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
You have cooked for some really famous faces. Haven't you
were you just seventeen when you cooked for Muhammad Ali?

Speaker 18 (46:57):
I think I was about a seventeen eighteen.

Speaker 5 (46:59):
Yes.

Speaker 18 (47:00):
Basically I had to do a party for Muhammad Ali
and he arrived around twenty minutes twenty five minutes before
his guests. I was a spotty teenager. It was two
o'clock in the morning because it was after an event,
and he talked to me for twenty minutes like he
didn't know me from a barus soap. But he was

(47:22):
so gracious and so considerate. And then when his guests came,
you know, he entertained them. The next morning when I
came in, there was a week's wages, which is about
sixty dollars at the time, waiting for me as a tip. Now,
it was definitely not about the tip, but how gracious
a man.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Absolutely, I mean, what is there more pressure on you
when you are cooking for presidents and rock stars and things?

Speaker 18 (47:49):
Actually not really, because I looked after Brad Pitt for
a couple of months and in London when he was
making a movie. And you know what, most people, the
stars themselves, are absolutely brilliant. The pains in the neck
are all around.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
Ah right, yeah, my goodness me right, it's interesting.

Speaker 18 (48:11):
Yeah, you know, give an idea. We looked after Ricky Martin.
He was a big star in the nineties and early
two thousands, massive star, and all he liked was fried
chicken and a salad night after night after night, fried
chicken and a salad like any chef can do that
with their eyes closed, so simple.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
I was wondering whether they're actually interested in food or
is it more about do they have quite specific dietary requirements?

Speaker 18 (48:41):
Very often yes, you get what's called the treatment, which
is a book of what they like and what they
don't like, and if there's any allergies, like where's King
Charles really no seafood because you can get you know,
he feels when he's traveling and doing things, he can
become sick more easily with fish and seafood. But then
you know, looking after Michael Jackson, you actually got the

(49:04):
recipes as well actual in ingredients, so it was like
cooking by numbers.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Oh my gosh, who seem to cooked for everybody? If
you could cook for someone today, who would you love
to be able to cook for?

Speaker 8 (49:16):
Oh?

Speaker 18 (49:16):
Good good. I have not been asked that.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
I'm just thinking about it because I suppose you actually
do want to cook for somebody who has an appreciation
for food, right, who loves it? Who would be who
wants to kind of be blown away rather than I
love that the fried chick.

Speaker 18 (49:33):
I think who I'd like to cook for? And I
haven't done it. Yet I'd love to go down to
City Mission one Christmas and do the big meal there
and help with that, purely because Christmas is like and
cooking for people is like a giant hug, and to
go and give all those people a giant hug at
Christmas time would actually be rather cool.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
And I know that you do give back a lot.
Can you tell me about dynad.

Speaker 18 (49:58):
Yes, donate. We work with many restaurants around the country.
I'm here in Auckland, there are many. Just go on
the website donate dot org dot nz and you'll see
all of the restaurants like hell Obeastie. We've got a
message the other day. They've already raised four six hundred dollars. Incredible.

(50:20):
You go to a restaurant, there's two dollars added to
the table bill, which is paid by you, the customer,
so only two dollars per table. We've raised about one
point two million dollars and one hundred percent of the
money goes to the food banks around New Zealand, so
not one centers taken out. Everybody volunteers. Sophie Gilmour and

(50:41):
Lauren and Jane Torrance does the pr Everybody volunteers and
that means all the money we fundraise can actually go
and help people.

Speaker 2 (50:53):
No, it's amazing because food and security is becoming a
real issue and we're seeing food banks really struggle at
the moment.

Speaker 18 (50:58):
Well on us, you know, a serious note. I was
talking with Helen, the city missioner here in Auckland a
little while ago. We said one in five families at
the moment, one in five are struggling with low food security.
So that's a deep concern. So basically, if you're going
out have a good time, please say yes to the
two dollars at the end of the meal, add another

(51:20):
two dollars if you wish to, and all of that
money will go and do some good.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Now, if people can pick up the book Christmas at
the Castle Cookbook, but also you've got a series on
YouTube and new cooking series on YouTube.

Speaker 18 (51:34):
Yes, I'm really happy. We only came out about a
month ago. We've just passed two hundred thousand views and
next year it's already been picked up by Apple TV
and Amazon. So it's all It's called Christmas at the
Castle and we've done eight programs. There's Annabelle White, there's
a friend of mine, Oliver Maurice who cooks on movies,
and my daughter and Elise who's quite a well known chef.

(51:56):
Yes overseas. So we've done a series all about Christmas.
Is the same as the book. We make something lovely
to eat, we make a gift, and then we play
a game at the end of each program.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
I love it, really nice to meet you and thank
you very much for the goodies that you brought me
as well. That was very kind of you. I feel
like I feel like Christmas is really coming now.

Speaker 18 (52:15):
Mark well ho ho ho, hold on to your Santa Hat.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Marke Gregory, thank you so much. It is twenty past
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Speaker 2 (52:34):
Holidays are almost upon us and I'm sure one I'll
have a little bit more time to catch up on
some viewings. Satara Award is worth us now with some
great selections of shows that are coming out over the
holidays that you might want to catch. Good Morning, Tara,
Good morning Okay for those brave enough, Squid Games back
part two, Yes.

Speaker 11 (52:55):
Squad Game one of Netflix's biggest shows.

Speaker 17 (52:58):
Season one came out in twenty twenty one and instantly
broke all sorts of records. It was Netflix's most watch
show ever for a while three years. The second season
of Squid Game drops on Netflix on Boxing Day. And
this is a show that deserves the hype. It's a
Korean show, it's a thriller, it's dystopian, it's a satire
as well. It's about one man who, in an effort

(53:21):
to pay off as gambling debts, enters this secret competition
with four hundred and fifty five other desperate people to
win a billion dollar prize. And the contest is made
up of a series of children's games, which seem pretty easy,
but there is a very big catch, and that's if
you lose a game, you die, So it's all or nothing.

(53:42):
But what makes this show so watchable is that, on
one hand, as you say, you've got to be quite
brave to watch this, it's quite bleak, it is violent,
but on the other there's a really dark humor to it,
and it's a beautiful show to watch. There's really vivid
colors and design here. It all feels a bit like
a beautiful nightmare. So season one is on Netflix now,

(54:02):
And if you haven't seen it yet and you're looking
for a show that will continually surprise you, that is
a bit twisted, a bit mind bending, and will stay
with you after you watch it, this is a great option.
And as I say, season two drops on December twenty
six and I expect it to break all sorts of
records straight away.

Speaker 6 (54:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
I mean, if you've had a bit of a disappointing Christmas,
you could always watch and it might cheer you up.
Exactly tell me about Missing You.

Speaker 11 (54:30):
So this is another new Netflix show.

Speaker 17 (54:33):
It's a mystery thriller that I'm picking will be a
huge hit over summer. It's adapted from a Harlan Coben
novel and back in twenty eighteen, Harlan Coben signed a
deal with Netflix to adapt fourteen of his books into
TV shows, and every time a new one pops up,
they become an instant. Shows like Stay Close, or For

(54:53):
Me Once or The Stranger. They are dramas that are
guaranteed to be very bingeable, very glossy, a bit far
fetched and ridiculous sometimes but very very watchable. And Missing
You is a British show. It's about it detective whose
fiance has been missing for eleven years and one day
she's swiping through a dating app and she sees her

(55:14):
presumably dead fiance on there and suddenly everything she thought
was true and solid has now been questioned.

Speaker 11 (55:21):
And this drops on Newye's.

Speaker 17 (55:23):
Day and I think this will be the perfect show
to watch if you are planning a lazy day on
the couch in the new year. The cast includes James
Nesbit and Lenny Henry, so there's lots of recognizable great
talent inness. It will have lots of twists and turns,
lots of secrets, lots of shady characters. It's just pure
entertainment for the holidays. It will pull you in and

(55:44):
you won't have to think too hard about it.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
Perfect for the first of January. And one of the
most beloved British sitcoms is back again.

Speaker 17 (55:53):
I know, I'm so excited about this one. This is
Gavin as Stacy the finale. It's the much anticipated return.
This show first premiere twenty years ago, which made me
feel very very old when I realized that. But this
is the common written and created by James Corden and
Ruth Jones, It's very warm and light and it's about
two twenty somethings.

Speaker 11 (56:13):
Gavin is from Essex, Stacy is from Wales.

Speaker 17 (56:16):
They have a whirlwind romance and get married and the
show is about how they bring their two very different
family and friends together. And since the show ended, there's
always been a lot of demand from fans that they
bring the show back to find out where these characters
ended up, to tie.

Speaker 11 (56:31):
Up all the Lucians. And so the final ever.

Speaker 17 (56:34):
Episode of Gavin and Stacey drops on Boxing Day on
TVNZ Plus and TV and C two.

Speaker 11 (56:39):
It's a one off Christmas special that will close the
chapter on Gavin and Stacey for good.

Speaker 17 (56:44):
And you know, it's always a bit of a risk
to reboot a show like this after several years, you know,
one that is so loved it can be hard to
replicate that original magic and a reboot, but I have
really high hopes for this one. TVNZ also has the
original series of Gavin and Stacey. It's such a delightful
comedy and I'm looking forward to this one so much.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
I think the last one off that they released was
about or the last Christmas special was twenty nineteen and
over seventeen seventeen million people watched it in the UK.
I mean they just what is it about this particular sitcom?
Why did it grab people so much?

Speaker 3 (57:19):
I think I think, you know, it is very warm
and it was just about ordinary people living ordinary lives.

Speaker 11 (57:26):
But there was just a bit of magic to it.

Speaker 8 (57:28):
You know.

Speaker 17 (57:29):
The cast was fantastic, The comedy is very very relatable
and sweet and funny, and I think it's just one
of those familiar shows that people kept going back to
and identify with. And they left that twenty nineteen special
on a cliffhanger, and so, I mean, great, great way
of getting people invested in it.

Speaker 11 (57:48):
So we're finally going to see it, see what happened
to it?

Speaker 2 (57:51):
Very excitation. Yeah, this was the show that kind of
launched James Carden. This is where I met him to
have turned him into a bit of a star.

Speaker 17 (57:58):
Absolute, Yeah, absolutely, it really launched him into the States.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Well, let's hope you know, it's the finale. Do you
think it will be the finale?

Speaker 3 (58:07):
They've said it as the end, so never all the
loose things.

Speaker 11 (58:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:14):
Oh, thank you so much, Tara. Thank you for your
contribution to the show throughout the year as well. Have
a Lovely Christmas and Holiday and Your Pleasure. Those film
those TV shows that Tara spoke about their squid game
That's hitting Netflix on December the twenty sixth. Missing You
is on Netflix on January first, and Gavin and Stacey
TV and Z Plus and tv Z two nine thirty

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pm on December the twenty sixth. You're with News Talks EDB.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Getting your weekend started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team
on News Talks EDB.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
This is Father John Misty.

Speaker 4 (59:10):
I quite like this.

Speaker 2 (59:12):
Father John Misty is a musician with an eye for
life's big topics. Likes to sing about religion and the
self and the sheer madness of life, but he also
enjoys sweeter themes, like he does in the song that
we were Just listening to Real Love Baby. Father John
Misty may come as no surprise it's not his real name.
His name is Josh Tillman. He's rather elusive when it

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comes to public speaking, but he does let us into
his thoughts through his lyrics and his new album. He
plays something of a spiritual tourist. His sixth album has
just been released under the name Father John Misty. It's
called mahsh mash Anna. That's correct, mahshmash Anna. Took me

(59:57):
a while to now that. And Estelle Clifford, our wonderful
music reviewer, is going to share some more tracks and
her thoughts on the album with us just for Madame.
I'm keen to hear more from from Father John Misty.
I'm gonna be honest, a bit bit new to Father
John Misty, so I'm looking forward to being educated. Hey,

(01:00:18):
of course, some of you are already on holiday. Some
of you may be a little bit like Libby and
I are counting down to being on holiday. But heading
into these summer holidays, there's just a few things that
we can all do to stay safe when it comes
to being in the sun, when it comes to where
we're swimming, making sure our water quality is really good,
and also that we've got really sensible food safety practices

(01:00:39):
on the go as well. So doctor Brian Betty's going
to be with us shortly, just with a little bit
of a reminder as how we can stay safe and
healthy throughout this summer. Your News Talks ab it is
at twenty five to eleven News Talks hereb and it's
time to talk technology and joining me now is Paul Stenhouse.
Good morning, Good morning. Where are you?

Speaker 15 (01:01:01):
I'm you?

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
You are in New York as it's snowing? Is this
snow on the ground.

Speaker 19 (01:01:05):
It was trying to snow earlier today, actually, but no,
it's just a little gray and cold.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Okay. I was really hoping you were going to set
this beautiful sort of white Christmas cut five for me.
But okay, but a slash on a bit of gray.

Speaker 5 (01:01:18):
Great.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Hey, yeah, you're talking about something today, which it's funny
you bring this up because I was sort of talking
to a girlfriend about about this during the week and
she'd almost been scammed and realized that probably the sensible
thing to do a bit of change all her passwords,
and then we can't look at each other, and we thought,
it's a bit of you today.

Speaker 19 (01:01:35):
You don't don't tell me it's password one two three
or one two three, four five six or thirty one
two three.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
Is the other pain to speak. But you know, people
pick one thing and then they kind of roll with
it across the ward, don't we It's what we do.
So I like the fact you're going to kind of
give us our password security one oh one lecture today
because this is It's not a sixty New Year's resolution,
but it is something we should all think about. I
recon heading into the new years, making sure our persons
are as tight as possible.

Speaker 19 (01:02:01):
It is, and so I've been doing the show now
for seven years, and every year the end of the year,
I try to implore people to take some time and
change the passwords. I think it took Jack about four
years to get on board, so you know you've got
a few years left franchisecap, but he does now sing
the praises of the password manager. Excuse me, and a

(01:02:22):
password manager is fantastic. Why because you don't have to
think anymore. You only have to remember one password to
get into your password manager, and then it knows all
of your passwords. And I can confidently say that there
are only sort of two passwords I actually.

Speaker 15 (01:02:39):
Now know by heart.

Speaker 19 (01:02:41):
I could not tell you my banking password. I could
not tell you my email passwords. I couldn't tell you
passwords for all sorts of things because they're all of
my password manager. They are very strong, they are very unique,
they are absolute random letters and characters. And I strongly
recommend a password manager if you're not going to go

(01:03:03):
down the past word password manager road. You think that's
a little scary, try something called a pass phrase and
that's where you kind of string multiple words or numbers
together and you can just come up with something completely
random like green jacket, people car, you know, whatever you
want to do. And something like that, though, is better

(01:03:25):
than password one, two three, okay? Or you know your
name or your kids' names, or your dog's name or
something along those lines.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
If you use a password manager and it gives you
this wonderful, unique, long, strong password, doesn't remember it for you?
Is it every time you open that app on your
phone or something?

Speaker 14 (01:03:43):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:03:43):
How you know how your passwords remembered? Yes, well, I
don't know if you're supposed to click remember me, but
that's what I do. It's so it's just there for you.
Don't have to think twice does it take? Its justrom
the password manager correct.

Speaker 19 (01:03:57):
And so if you're using something like one password, which
I use, it actually sinks across all of your devices, okay.
And so when you click in the password box, it
actually tries to auto fell with your username and password,
and it's it's so easy. It really is so easy.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
It took me.

Speaker 15 (01:04:12):
Now if it took Jack.

Speaker 4 (01:04:13):
You know, took.

Speaker 19 (01:04:14):
Badgering Jack four years once a year. It took me
badgering my parents for close to a decade almost weekly
that they needed to get on board. And they have
now and they finally trust the password manager. And they
now also don't know sort of the password to their
banking apps and things, which I think is good.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
Okay, So I has been and I said it has
one password or any other password manager like temporary gone
down or there's even an issue because I could imagine
that would be, you know, if you don't know any
of the passwords problematic, that.

Speaker 15 (01:04:46):
Would be that would be bad, That would be bad,
no something.

Speaker 19 (01:04:49):
So one password is the one I use, super reputable.

Speaker 4 (01:04:53):
They've been great.

Speaker 19 (01:04:54):
They don't know anything about your data. It's all encrypted.
It's it's a pretty good service. Look, the one thing
you have to know with your password manager is that
password to get in right, And so people are like,
oh what if I forget that?

Speaker 15 (01:05:06):
It's okay.

Speaker 19 (01:05:06):
Actually to write that password down. I know that sounds crazy,
but if you keep that password written down, keep it
in a safe and secure place, someone has to really
be going to look for that password. I would much
rather have someone like have to find my password written
down in a secret place than be using the same
passwords across all of my different digital services, because if

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one person gets into one of those, they can get
into all of them, which yes, is still the case
if they found your past we'd written down. But if
you stow that away in a really safe spot, I
think you're into a much better security posture.

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
It's like when you see someone who's written the password
on a poster and stuck it on the computer.

Speaker 4 (01:05:44):
Hey, look, do you know what?

Speaker 5 (01:05:45):
That's actually not that bad.

Speaker 19 (01:05:47):
I know that sounds crazy, it's not that bad if
the passwords a good password.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Okay, all right, So if you don't use a password,
blow your mind now you are. So if you don't
use the pass we've managed, you've got to make sure
you've got different passwords for different accounts. You strong passwords,
put you know, advantage of the multi factor authenticate authenticication, authentication.
I can't say that rude?

Speaker 4 (01:06:13):
Can I say one thing?

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
Though?

Speaker 19 (01:06:14):
Here's here's my one piece of advice. If you update,
I kind of think my passwords and tears. So if
you update one part of today, make it your banking password,
because that one really matters and make sure your email
passwords strong because that's tied to probably everything. And then
if you end up using the same password on you know,
you're random Woolworth shopping and your whatever. Okay, that's maybe okay,

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but don't use it the same one as your bank.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Paul. I'm going to make your day. The only two
have changed the same, my email and my bank. I've
done that.

Speaker 12 (01:06:43):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Good Merry Christmas, Paul. Thanks so much for your time today.
Love you to talk to you.

Speaker 14 (01:06:49):
Oh, there we go.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Normally I get Normally I do get a lecture about
things like that, but I can actually sort of cruise
towards the end of the feeling quite good about that.
Not Brian Beatty is with us. Next with Health that
is seventeen to eleven, a little bit of.

Speaker 4 (01:07:01):
Way to kick off your weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
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Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Joining us now is doctor Brian Betty.

Speaker 12 (01:07:13):
Good morning, Brian, Oh, good morning, Processkin.

Speaker 4 (01:07:16):
Nice to be here now.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
This time of the year, we're all thinking about putting
our feet up and relaxing, but there's still a few
things we've got to have in the back of our minds,
don't we when it comes to being say, healthy and
safe over the summer.

Speaker 6 (01:07:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:07:29):
Look, I think there's some basic things we need to
start to think about.

Speaker 20 (01:07:32):
You know.

Speaker 12 (01:07:32):
One's the sun. I think the second thing is water. Well,
I mean we often think of swimming and things and
swimming and water, but I think we need to think
about water quality and water safety. And the third thing
I think is food. Food is really really important over summer.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
Let's start with sun, shall we.

Speaker 20 (01:07:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:07:50):
Look, sun is one of the big big benefits of summer.
We all know that it's great for the outdoors. We
know that the sun is beneficial and improves mood, It
gives us vitamin D which strengthens our bones, and has
all these positives. However, one of our biggest dangers during
summer is actually the sun and that sunburn. We have

(01:08:10):
very very harsh sun in New Zealand with lots of
UV light. Now, the problem with that is we have
one of the highest rates of skin cancer, in particular
melanoma in the world. So there's about six thousand cases
of melanoma in New Zealand per year and that comes
from one thing, and one thing in particular and that sunburn.

(01:08:31):
So it's really really important we start to think about
the sun and we think about in particular protecting ourselves
against sunburn during summer. Now, obviously the slip slop slap
is a thing that's out there and that really still
does sitsand so we need to think about sunblock, loose,
long sleeves, long sleeve clothing, wearing hats, and for children

(01:08:54):
at the beach in particular, rash tops really really important
to protect their very vulnerable young skin. And just one
thing to note, cloudy days won't protect you against the sun.
Some of the worst sunburn I sea as people have
been out during a cloudy day, it tends to intensify
the UV light. So just be careful, so avoid been

(01:09:15):
burnt during summer.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
I think I learned that the hard way. Unfortunately, talking
about water quality, it's a really good thought because often
we just tend to think we see a bit of
water and we just jump on in, don't we.

Speaker 12 (01:09:28):
Yeah, look, look, yeah exactly. And again, you want to
swim in rivers, you want to go to the beach,
and it's a great part of summer, and we talk
about water safety, but we often don't talk about water quality.
So there is a hidden risk that occurs in our
beaches and our rivers and our lakes that we need
to think about, and that's contaminated water. Now contaminated water.

(01:09:50):
Regardless of what we do, if we go swimming, it's
quite likely will ingest a small amount of water into
the body. Now, if it's contaminated with bacteria, that can
give us tummy bugs and the dreaded vomiting and diarrhea
that everyone talks about. So it can come from where
we swim. So we do need to watch out for it,
and we do need to be slightly careful. So a

(01:10:11):
couple of the simple things to do is generally, as
a general rule, if there's been very heavy rain, avoids
swimming in beaches or rivers because what tends to happen
in heavy rain is storm water tends to overflow and
mix a little bit with serage and that tends to
run off into rivers and things. So very heavy rain

(01:10:31):
is something to watch out for. Look for the signs.
Often the council will put up the signs saying do
not swim at the beach, and there's a reason for this.
So if you see the sign, don't swim it means
the water is contaminated and there's a high risk of
developing sort of a tummy bug. Look watch out for strange,
strange smells, those sort of sulfur type smells that we

(01:10:51):
sometimes see around rivers. Discolouration can be another sign of
heavy runoff. And just avoid areas around pipes or colvets
where stormwater draine could be running into the beach or rivers.
So just some very very simple things to think about
to keep safe in the water.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Yes, I'm in the Auckland area, so I use the
swim Safe website which is fantastic and I know a
lot of regions will have something similar. Also really important, Brian,
is to keep our food safe over summer, especially in
the heat.

Speaker 12 (01:11:20):
Yeah, look the heat we know, and food that that's
kept warm or left on the bench and that's sort
of hot and things, it can create an environment that's
really really good for bacteria to sort of multiply and
sort of sort of start to take over the food,
and if we eat that food again, we can become
very very unwell. So there's generally considered to be what's

(01:11:42):
called the four seas that's clean, cook cover and chill,
so well worth remembering that, and that's the type of
thinking that will protect us and protect our food over
the summer days. So some general rules of thumb, you know,
keep your hands and surfaces clean, wipe them pretty frequently,
rinse your fruit and vegetables, and for goodness sake, just

(01:12:05):
wash your hands up to go into the toilet. It's
one of the big big areas where you get contamination
is where people don't wash their hands and then then
handle food. Now chicken in particular, which we love over
some it is a big, big problem. It tends to
hold some some bacteria in it, so it's really important
to separate chicken in a separate chopping board, separate your knife,

(01:12:29):
wash your hands after handling the chicken so you're not
touching other foods, and make sure it's cooked right through.
Undercooked chicken is a real real danger. Finally, a couple
of things is, you know, keep your food chilled, so
take it off and stick it in the fridge between
two and four degrees is generally recommended. And keep it covered,

(01:12:50):
keep it away from flies and bugs which may have contamination.
So again those very very simple things to just try
and keep the food safe. And prevent a sending up
with sort of these nasty stomach bugs which can occur
over summer.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
Doctor Brian Bet, thank you so much. Have a lovely Christmas.

Speaker 12 (01:13:06):
Thank you very much, and so to you. Francisca.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
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Speaker 15 (01:13:19):
Good morning Francisco. That good. How are you very good?

Speaker 2 (01:13:22):
And before we start, I must say a very big
thank you to you and King Seeds for my wildflowers
bend because blind, because when I think what I spent
you a couple of weeks ago, you were at King Seeds, Yeah,
said do you know anything I checkly said Eshley, yea
I do. And please you you sent them to me,
So thank you both.

Speaker 15 (01:13:41):
These people. Yeah, they're wonderful people.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
Yeah they help us and hopefully yeah you know yeah, good, good,
good going to do.

Speaker 15 (01:13:49):
This is what we do. So I've worked with these
things with your seeds at schools to get bumble bees attracted.
There's something I talked about to check a couple of
weeks ago or last week, I can't even remember. And
these people are always helping out schools and education and
stuff like that. Projects like that, and I think it's wonderful.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
I did get a little carried away because it was
a really large bag. So we're gonna have to be
I've got to warn the gardener or the family. My
partner bentually got to say to him, Hey, dude, a
whole of the things popping up here and there and there,
don't just think mounting their weeds. Just give them some
time because I've just scattered this stuff everywhere. But Christmas
is a really good time to be looking around our gardens.
And I am quite delighted by the photos of the

(01:14:30):
little owls that you sent me.

Speaker 15 (01:14:32):
It's funny that a lot of people with pet wolf
camp on Sunday. We quite often talk about it and
about the nest boxes, and people are really wanting to
do these things. So what we've done is see in
christ is we've got a little owl, which is a
species that comes from Europe. I know it well, from
the Netherlands, where it's called the stain owl, the stone owl,
if you like, tiny thing, and here and there in
the South Island. See them even during the day because

(01:14:54):
they sit on fences sometimes watching the traffic.

Speaker 8 (01:14:57):
Go by.

Speaker 15 (01:14:58):
But anyway, that's besides them. Actually, by the way, we
band at fourteen yesterday. Oh wow, that was at a
little hospital at Bank. But so these guys are all
over the place. We've got them breeding at the moment
and some of the young ready to fledge, others still
need a band around it. So I'm looking forward to
that and I usually take my grandson with me, who

(01:15:18):
was really keen to be part of that gig. He
loves that stuff. Can you imagine those a twelve year
old holding an owl? You know that sort of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
I'm gonna Yeah, it's just in the South Island, Yeah,
that one is.

Speaker 15 (01:15:32):
But we of course you've got Ruru and you've got
by House as well up in the north. So but anyway,
that's one of the things I'm going to do this
this this week actually at Christmas time. Good there you go.
One example that you.

Speaker 8 (01:15:47):
Know it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
There was some quite heavy snoring going on in our
house early on was a Friday morning at about and
I was wide awake and I sort of got thought,
I'm going to get up and walk around the house.
Cut ups, there's't it And sort of the night sky
caught my attention and I went outside. It was about
three am or something and gosh, really, it's a different world,
isn't it. But because normally we're we're tacked up in
bed and sound asleep, and I just start happy for ages,

(01:16:10):
looking at the stars and listening to the sounds. And
you've also got a suggestion about going out at night
with a torch in the garden. And if you can
use UV light and you just see the world in
a whole different way.

Speaker 15 (01:16:23):
That's it. So insects see everything through you spectrums. And
if you look at your favorite flowers and plants, you'll
see that they are not the color you think they are.
They are either blue or orange or yellow, whereas normally
they're white, you know, during the day. This is what
I mean. So I think this is something to do
with attracting the right pollinators in the night, so that

(01:16:46):
pollination still occurs in the night. So you don't know
that until you start mucking around with the UV torch.
I always say, best Christmas present ever.

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Yeah, it's a good idea. What else can you say
with this torch?

Speaker 14 (01:17:01):
Oh?

Speaker 15 (01:17:01):
Likeens yellow lines suddenly turning orange under that light? You
see uh white white? As I said, what the flowers
journing purple purple blue is the color they see the
best pollinators at night, So you get moths there, you
get all sorts of things, and there's stuff I never
see sometimes you know it's it's totally unexpected. But the

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best thing that I see at night is the pseudo scorpion.
We have scorpions in New Zealand that are tiny and
you find them sitting on burdle and things like that.
But you see them also hanging onto the legs of flies,
because that's how they transport themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
The fly is the uber Merry Christmas Road.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
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Speaker 2 (01:18:23):
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things happening around the country over the holidays. Mike Gordley
has going to take us, is going to whip us
through a few of them which might be happening close
to you.

Speaker 4 (01:18:54):
Francesca joining us.

Speaker 2 (01:18:57):
Now we have Kate Hall aka Ethically Kate. Good morning Kate,
Good morning Mary, Christmas and to you too, you are
ready to go?

Speaker 20 (01:19:07):
Yep, yep I am. We have pretty basic chill Christmas
with our families, so yep, I think I'm ready.

Speaker 11 (01:19:13):
Well that's all.

Speaker 2 (01:19:14):
That's sort of the way it should be, really, isn't it.

Speaker 20 (01:19:16):
Yeah, it's more special the people you spend it with.
And yeah, a lot of us will be together this
Christmas who haven't been, so it's good.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
Oh that is wonderful to hear. And so today we're
going to talk about being sustainable on Christmas Day and
you've got some tips for us. And I love the
first one because it comes with a certain amount of
presumption to it, So I love the first thing on
your list was bring reusable containers with you for food leftovers.
So just put them in your car, on your bag
and have them ready to go. But I love that.

(01:19:46):
It's kind of like turning up mum cooks. Mum's cooking
your mates by the way here and Michael the leftovers
that I'd love to take time to have a boxing
day thank you.

Speaker 18 (01:19:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (01:19:58):
Well, I mean there's that element, which you know, it
is probably coming from me as a child who will
spend part of Christmas Day mum's house. Bus. It's also
I've realized that sometimes the host doesn't have enough containers,
you know, for all the different things I've made, so
I have even brought containers with me and left them,

(01:20:20):
you know, and just being helpful.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
Then I think you're coming from a much more generous
place than I was.

Speaker 20 (01:20:26):
I mean both, it's it's yeah, it's a mixture. But
you know, often when you leave, people go, oh, take
this with you. Because we're talking about food based here too,
right that. I mean, there's so much food and one household,
everyone gathers together in one centralized place. Yeah, how is
that food going to continue to be eaten when there
are leftovers? Which is you know, it's such a privilege

(01:20:48):
to have leftovers and to have all this bounty your
food on Christmas Day, But how can we make sure
that it doesn't just kind of rot in the back
of someone's fridge? But you can distribute it to people
or even there's some local like soup kitchens and community
kitchens who could really do with that food. So bring
your reason containers and your handbag. You're able for the

(01:21:10):
presence or food that you're bringing to the to the
house who's hosting. Is just such a such a key
one of bruisb containers always come in handy.

Speaker 2 (01:21:19):
Well these days, you know, I very rarely go somewhere
where I'm not contributing something. You know, we don't sort
of you don't turn up at someone's house these days
and expect them to have done everything. We're all everyone's
aware of the cost of living, and we're all contributing.
And I think, actually, to be honest with you, Kate,
I think I do this really well. I do turn
up with what I'm contributing in the container, which just
happens to be perfect. When the host at the NC is, yeah,

(01:21:40):
look do you want to take this home? Can you
put it in your container? I go, oh, great, there we.

Speaker 20 (01:21:43):
Go exactly, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
So often we have those on us. A lot of
people are traveling, of course at this time of the
year as well.

Speaker 20 (01:21:53):
Yes, so obviously with transport, I know it's not feasible
for everyone. You know, if you're if you have a
fifty kilometer journey to get to your family on Christmas Day,
that might be a little bit too far of a
bike ride. But considering there's so many different ways that
we can do our transport a little bit more sustainably,
and that just involves a little bit more thought and

(01:22:14):
perhaps communication with other people who are also traveling, so
car pooling, considering best routes to take so that you're
driving less columbuss You know, general things like making sure
your hires are pumped up, that your car is all
good to go and as kind of fuel efficient as possible,

(01:22:36):
and if you can if you are close like i am,
i live on the Hibiscus Coast and I'm pretty close
to most of my family stops and places we have
to go doing things like biking or yeah, asking if
you have spare seats in your car, letting people know
that they can hop in with you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
I've got a teenager. I've got two teenagers, Kate, and
the older one has his license and a car and
things and still living at home. And it's always like
on ourg sea there, I'll meet you there. You know,
we're going as a family to this event. We can
all just go in one car.

Speaker 20 (01:23:12):
But it's just hard day, and.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
I'll get them myself. And you're kind of going, Okay,
let's try and think about this a little bit. In
a bit, let's look at picture here, which.

Speaker 20 (01:23:22):
And it's also I think sometimes you know, I'm coming
at it obviously from an environmental point of view to
use less petrol, but actually petrol costs money, so it
is good to clumb at it from a saving point
of view too, that actually you can save by doing
doing right by the environment.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
Now, the wrapping papers is an interesting one. I've done
numerous different things over the year, Kate. Over the years
I've used tea towels to wrap presence so that the
tea towel is also a present. A great tip if
you're if you've got a if you've got a kid
at kindy right now, you might have a stack of
paintings that you're your childhood at kindy, which fifty of

(01:24:05):
pretty much the same thing on quite a large piece
of paper, and one year I think they wrapped. I
think I used those to wrap all my Christmas presents,
which can be quite a useful way of perfect passing
on a piece of hard Yeah, but we do use
a lot of wrapping paper, don't we lift on year?

Speaker 7 (01:24:23):
We do?

Speaker 20 (01:24:24):
We do, And honestly, in my adult life, I have
never purchased wrapping paper. So it is absolutely just like
the examples you've said, even secondhand scarves from pop shops,
things like that. You know, the brown paper bags that
you've gathered far too many of because you've forgot your
user bags at grocery stores. You can cut those up

(01:24:45):
and turn them into really clever wrapping ideas. But also,
and my nieces know this, and missing at Christmas, they
make a little pile for anti kate of secondhand you know,
or the wrapping paper they put in a pile. They
know that it's going to be reused. So you know,
I know, it's only a few days until Christmas, and
so going out and getting some more to yoursels or

(01:25:09):
sicken hand scars isn't feasible. So actually thinking about the
wrapping pay that already does exist. It's already there, so
how can we salvege it for the next year?

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
Yeah, like if you having to get brown those brown
paper bags from the supermarket, get the kids to come
on them in paint on them or something. Yeah, tie
them up. Yeah, that's a good idea.

Speaker 20 (01:25:26):
Or if you don't have kids, just you know, paint yourself,
paint on them and see.

Speaker 6 (01:25:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:33):
Yeah, yeah, it's always good to do the arts and crafts.
You've also got a suggestion about composting as well.

Speaker 20 (01:25:40):
Yes, so I know a lot of people do composts,
which is great, but I think it is actually only
about three percent of people in New Zealand actually have
a home compost. So considering, especially if you aren't hosting,
so you don't have control over where your food scraps
are going. Considering again not being kind of the greenie

(01:26:02):
who turns up to Christmas, but just trying to be
helpful so that someone's rubbish blin is less stinky and
so you can actually take home those valuable scraps to
your to your chickens, to your home compuffs, so that
makes soil for your garden. I often will bring a again,
another container, just a container or sometimes a jar is

(01:26:23):
really good because it's air tight so it can sit
around for a while without producing any smells. So yeah,
thinking about where will food scraps go during the day,
and how can you best communicate that to the host
or communicate it to guests who come into your house,
that you have a clear compoft solution because that's you know,

(01:26:46):
it's a huge waste source, you know, banana peels, strawberry
tops and things like that, that we can actually dive
it from landfill, and that's really really important to that
we don't send it to landfill because it will not
break down there.

Speaker 2 (01:27:01):
You're going to be loaded up on this bike cake
fin Finally, though, attending events with content.

Speaker 20 (01:27:09):
Yeah, I think, you know, there's all these yeah, kind
of sustainable practical tips, but I think at the end
of the day, especially at the moment to go to
a Christmas gathering and actually before you go, rather than
just you're rushing around, you're trying to remember those containers
that Kate told you to bring, the combus bucket and

(01:27:30):
stuff like that. Actually, when you're on your bike, when
you're in the car, when you're having a shower, doing
your makeup before an event, thinking about what you want
from that moment and that experience with people and with
your friends and family. I think we just rush into
these things and they start to feel like obligations or

(01:27:53):
you kind of you don't remember the moments because it's
all just goes very fast. So I just highly recommend.
I think this is part of sustainable living is connecting
with people and actually thinking how can I bear show up,
how can I best be there for my family? What
questions can I ask? Who am I gonna make an

(01:28:13):
intentional time to talk to at this gathering? I think
is just huge at any point, but I think now
more than ever, I think a lot of people are
burnt out and we can just tokenly go to these
events and walk away that going with intent is going
to be a much more enjoyable, connective time for everyone.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
Do you know what you've just I just feel completely
relaxed after listen to you talk me and Kate. It's
really sort of sort of just this sort of this
effect on me. Adds have gone, oh yeah, this is
something to enjoy. We're all gonna we're all going to
get together and have this beautiful time together. Hey, thank
you so much, have a lovely, lovely Christmas?

Speaker 15 (01:28:50):
You too.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
That was Kate Hall. There you can find her at Ethicley. Kate,
did I completely relax? Isn't that?

Speaker 4 (01:28:56):
I want said?

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
That's so true? Stop the rushing around, stop the list stop.
Everything is going to be a really lovely time of
the year with the people that you love most. And
really it's as simple as that. It is eighty past
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Speaker 21 (01:29:18):
Morning, Francesca. Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas. Are your bells jingling?

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
Sorry, I don't know why, It's just okay, yeah, yeah, yes,
I don't quite know where my bells are right now.
Actually I'm not even quite too sure what the day is,
but we're getting there. Is Saturday, isn't it? Over the holidays,
though clearly in need of a few days off over
the holidays. A lot of us are staying home. I'm

(01:29:49):
staying home a bit, but some of us are tripping
around the country and there's all sorts of things taking place.

Speaker 21 (01:29:56):
Yes, there are some signature spectacles that you could actually
thread into your domestic vacation plans the summer. Interestingly, if
I say to you Auckland and January, chances are you'll
think the tennis the ASB Classic. But there is actually
another primetime sporting gig waiting in the wings, and you
will recall earlier this year we had the dolphin related

(01:30:17):
debacle and christ Jurge so sale GPS along awaited Auckland
debut will row into life January eighteen and nineteen off
Winyard Point. There's obviously a lot of vantage points around
the harbor, but if you want prime grandstand seating, I
checked out the website. There are still plenty of tickets
available to get right up close to those flying f

(01:30:39):
fifties as they do bettle.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
Do you know when you said to me, you know,
what do you think of when I say Auckland and January?
I just think of the nineteen eighties because what basically
happens is everyone.

Speaker 5 (01:30:49):
Leaves were absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:30:52):
Really that place to be, especially that sort of Christmas
and over New Year and things like that. Everyone goes.
You can drive anywhere and everywhere. You can kind of
get a park reof you want. You can really make
the most everything that Auckland has to offer with ease. Yes, no,
but you know it is I don't I don't know

(01:31:14):
whether people sort of think everyone sort of takes off
the beaches or late and they don't sort of think
about coming, but actually yes, and tennis is a great
reason to come. I think that kicks off on the
thirtieth and runs till the eleventh, and then we do
have sale GP, but definitely just those if you were
ever thinking of popping up and checking it out and
going to the gallery and do all those sort of
bits and pieces, it is a great time to come.

Speaker 14 (01:31:34):
It's fair good.

Speaker 5 (01:31:36):
Yeah, very good. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
There are some other exhibitions happening in Auckland as well,
aren't there.

Speaker 21 (01:31:41):
That's true, Yeah, I mean yeah, you could tie this
in with a generary visit to the Quensity as well.
Dinosaurs are Patagonia, which I'm sure you know about, Francesca.
That's on at the showgrounds until the end of next month.
The starring attraction. I really want to see this dinosaur.
He's called Pettigo Titan, the largest dinosaur ever found. He
weighs seventy tons, which is unbelievable, and his length has

(01:32:05):
span thirty eight meters, which is about the length of
three school buses. That is utterly insane. And an also museum.
The big summer summer gig is the Sharks exhibition. It's
just opened. I actually was chatting to some friends in
Australia who saw this a few months ago. They reckon
it's extraordinary. So I was created by the Australian Museum,

(01:32:28):
very much focused on the fascinating and often misunderstood word
of sharks. Very immersive apparently, lots of really interactive displays.

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
Yeah, you know, summer and then a shark exhibition kind
of takes me back to the summer that I watched
Jaws and my parents had just taken us to Australia
for the first time to see our cousins who lived
on the Gold Coast. And on the first night my
cousin played Jaws and I didn't go on the water
for two weeks. Oh we go, No, this does look

(01:32:58):
this does look amazing.

Speaker 21 (01:32:59):
Though this more helped you mystify your fears.

Speaker 4 (01:33:02):
Apparently, well there we go perfect.

Speaker 15 (01:33:04):
From media Perfect.

Speaker 2 (01:33:06):
What if legos at your kind of thing?

Speaker 21 (01:33:10):
Yeah, down South and dunners to her a Otago Museum.
It's been taken over this summer by lego minifigures. So
the exhibition is called Relics a New World Rises and
it was created by those Australian lego masters, Jackson Harvey
and Alex Tower. It was a smash hit an Oz
all sorts of really cool things, like they have repurposed

(01:33:32):
a retro video arcade and turned it into a futuristic spaceport,
all in Lego, so the kids will go crazy there.
If you're in rally to Papa, they traditionally turn on
a big summer headliner and I reckon, this is a
bit of you, Francisca. This summer's exhibition is the premiere

(01:33:52):
of the global tour of the then Westwood and Jewelry,
So it's all about the extensive history of her jewelry
design and creations, which all began back in the seventies
with a stall at the Portobello Market in London. So yeah,
that's on. I think it's on until April. It starts
next month at Tapapa.

Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
Got a bit of time for that one. Now, at
this time of the year, doesn't New Plymouth have a
Festival of Lights?

Speaker 21 (01:34:17):
Yes, tonight the night they turn on the lights, transforming
Poky Cuda Park into a lavishly illuminated nighttime wonderland for
five weeks. This is apparently New Zealand's favorite and longest
running light festival. I checked with the organizers. Over one
hundred and fifty thousand people flock to the festival, half

(01:34:37):
from out of town, so lots of ingenious installations, nightly
entertainment and if you want to check out the lights
from a different perspective, book.

Speaker 6 (01:34:45):
A glow row boat.

Speaker 21 (01:34:48):
They are wildly popular, so you want to book your
boat in advance.

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
Caroline Bay is, does it still have a speech carnival?

Speaker 21 (01:34:57):
Yeah, the one hundred and fourteenth edition, isn't it?

Speaker 11 (01:35:03):
I know?

Speaker 21 (01:35:03):
It kicks off on Boxing Day runs for a fortnight.
There is a real sort of timeless, down home vibe
to that carnival in Timadoo. Some say it's a bit hoky,
but I reckon it's as classic as hokey pokey and
no disrespect to some of the other beach carnivals in
New Zealand. January four is the day for the Cooks
Beach Carnival in Fiicianunga and also the Openaki Beach for

(01:35:25):
Carnival and Taganaki Brant any other events to mention super quick.
If you're on the Wild West Coast in late January,
check out the Driftwood Festival on Hoka Tika Beach January
twenty two. It's incredibly creative, so Basically all these competitors
construct the most whimsical, skodful pieces. Some of them are enormous,

(01:35:46):
all based on driftwood washed up from the Testamon Sea.
The size and the audacity of the sculptures is so good.
And wine time Finally, Francesca, two of our nation's very
best wine festivals are bubbling on the horizon. So Toast
Marsinborough returns January nineteen, and just across the Water, a

(01:36:06):
New Zealand's longest running wine and food festival, is back
on February eight. Blendham Accommodation Wild book out, so locking
your plans pronto for Marlboro February.

Speaker 14 (01:36:17):
I lent you to do.

Speaker 2 (01:36:18):
Thank you so much, Mike. He an lovely Christmas.

Speaker 21 (01:36:21):
You two friends. Yes, good, take care, take care.

Speaker 2 (01:36:24):
I of course there's more tips on summer attractions with
traveling for Mike. Will have an article up on our
website Newstalks EB dot co dot inze Ford slash Lifestyle
slash travel twenty eight past eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:36:38):
Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack team
on News Talks AB.

Speaker 2 (01:36:48):
Everybody on the travel Coming up at midday on News
Talks EB, we have Jason Pine with Weekend Sport, and
he joins me now.

Speaker 11 (01:37:03):
In the studio.

Speaker 2 (01:37:03):
Good morning, good morning, Good to see you've got a chair.
If anyone was listening to Darcy Watograve's Sports Talk this morning,
they would have known that we were doing we've been
doing a very big end of year clean of every
chair in the building and they took all our chairs away.
And so you came into the studio and I just
knelt down on your knees and to help me fortum,
which we all took a lot of photos because we
thought it was hilarious. But we've found you one dry chair.

(01:37:26):
Thank you. So it's good to have you with us.
What's coming up on the show, Well.

Speaker 22 (01:37:28):
We're going to answer a couple of questions. One, how
big is this Liam Lawson news?

Speaker 11 (01:37:32):
For me?

Speaker 22 (01:37:32):
Enormous. It's the massive, just probably among the three biggest
sports stories of this year, the fact that he's going
to have a full time Formula One drive in twenty
twenty five. Are going to unpack that, take a few
calls on it, but just really celebrate this amazing news.
And I kind of wonder, okay, if you and I
are talking a year from now, you know, obviously our
contracts have to be renewed. But if that is the

(01:37:54):
case and we're talking a year from now, what will
have had to have happened for it to be a
successful year for Liam Lawson?

Speaker 5 (01:38:00):
Good?

Speaker 22 (01:38:00):
Yeah, And so because he's a definite number two to
Max for Steppin in that team. So does he just
have to do what he's told? Can he try to
win races? Does he just have to keep his nose clean?
All that stuff? So we'll talk about Liam Lawson and
also the other question. Where is New Zealand's home of cricket?
The Basement Reserve has had that kind of mantra for
a long time, the spiritual home of cricket. A few

(01:38:23):
pesky Cantabrians believe that Hagley Oval well it's the home
of cricket, and I feel like you're among them.

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
Well no, but when I mean, whenever I watch on
the TV, I think the last time I watched Test
cricket I was at the Bay Oval. Actually I can't
remember when I last went to one in Auckland's probably forest.
But whenever I watch on the TV, every time I
watch when it's in christ Each, I think, how beautiful,
what a gorgeous spot to watch cricket. What a great

(01:38:49):
setting and I presume a pretty good wicket.

Speaker 22 (01:38:51):
Yeah, all those things. So and see this is the
reason why the noise, the hubbub is rising around christ
Church being taking that mantle. I think the basin's had
a lot of history happen there, but that in itself
is not enough because it can get a bit windy.

Speaker 2 (01:39:05):
So is the question with the future of Test cricket
in New Zealand.

Speaker 22 (01:39:08):
Well, I think that could be part of the conversation. Yea,
I think we open it up. And there's also these
other cricket grounds around New Zealand that are wonderful places
to watch. They'll never have a Test match because they're
too small or whatever or napier or a book a.
Cord A Park in New Plymouth has often talked about
it as a wonderful place to watch a game of
T twenty cricket. So yeah, we can we can kick
that around all on the FC. I've got a game
this afternoon as well. Cover that off and anything else

(01:39:29):
that comes to mind. I feel like I'm going to
do the duty. Like there will be a lot of
people at Christmas shopping right see for me, just stay
in the car, Stay in the car and just listen.
Call up if you want to, but look, we're here
for you.

Speaker 4 (01:39:40):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (01:39:41):
Thank you so much. Jason Park will be back to
make your afternoon of Christmas shopping and sitting in wonderful
Christmas traffic wherever you are an enjoyable experience. It is
twenty six to twelve.

Speaker 4 (01:39:51):
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Speaker 2 (01:40:02):
You're with Saturday Mornings. I'm Francisca with you until mid
day and joining me now is Catherine Rains.

Speaker 3 (01:40:07):
Good morning, Catherine, Good morning, Francesca.

Speaker 2 (01:40:10):
Good to have you with us. Now, You've got a
wonderful list of some of your Would these be your
sort of favorite picks from the year.

Speaker 11 (01:40:20):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 23 (01:40:20):
They're certainly books that have stayed with me that I've
thought about over time. So I think that's always a
sign of a good book.

Speaker 2 (01:40:26):
Well, perfect perfect timing, because of course there's a few
people out there probably still doing a little bit of
last minute shopping or think that today is a perfectly
good day to start their Christmas shopping. So it's going
together a few little ideas or if you're looking for
a book of course to take away over the holidays,
you've got some good suggestions for us. Should we start
with your fiction picks?

Speaker 23 (01:40:45):
So first up is The Waiting by Michael Connolly, and
when I also can write as many books as Michael
Connolly has done, and he still keeps it fresh, and
he continues the Bosh series, and in this Rene Ballad
is in charge of a cold case unit, and Bosh
has retired, but of course he occasionally helps out and now.

Speaker 14 (01:41:01):
His daughter Maddie is involved in volunteering at the unit.

Speaker 23 (01:41:04):
In the unit, and Connie is able to weave all
sorts of things into the narrative and distinct storylines and
develop and flesh out the characters, and he does it
in such an interesting way that it keeps.

Speaker 14 (01:41:14):
You really engrossed in the series.

Speaker 23 (01:41:17):
And then we have intermesio Sally Rooney for something really different,
and her writing is just superb. The way she writes
her dialogue and her characters and the interaction between two
people and the subtle nuances and the emotional ties between them,
and that human interaction and the story is about brothers,
and it brings in themes of mentality and belief and

(01:41:38):
wants and desires and these complicated lives.

Speaker 14 (01:41:40):
But it's really beautifully told.

Speaker 2 (01:41:42):
And Graham Norton had a new book out.

Speaker 23 (01:41:44):
He does This is Frankie. And in this you take
a trip with an older Frankie. She looks back on
the significant events in her life and she's sharing her
story with her Cara Damien. And it sets in decades
from starts in the nineteen sixties in New York and London,
and you kind of laugh along and cry and you
just don't really forget the remarkable story of Frankie and
the intrigue and it's just the stories one fe told.

Speaker 3 (01:42:07):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:42:07):
I know that a lot of people have had this
on their sort of best of all favorite books of
the year list. Greg Old's Southern Man.

Speaker 23 (01:42:14):
Yeah, the story has everything in his style and his history,
and it's set where America itself is teetering on the
brink of anarchy, and you find yourself very drawn into
the story. And it weaves together today's political climate and
Civil War era slavery issues, and it is in an
uncomfortable read, but it's a political and historical thriller that

(01:42:36):
shines a light on corruption and race, relationships and family
relationships and past and present, and it's a doorstop of
a book, but I couldn't put it down. I was
completely engrossed in the story.

Speaker 14 (01:42:46):
And his writing.

Speaker 2 (01:42:47):
And finally Catherine a news series from an author who
was one of my favorite guests of the Sema Sisian
session this year, Richard Osmond. He was just charming. I
loved meeting him.

Speaker 23 (01:42:57):
And he is charming, and he's an expert at those
k cozy crime novels. And in this se piltrays two characters,
Steve and Amy Wheeler, and their relationship with each other
and the interactions, and it almost makes me wish that
I was in the story with them, apart from the
fact that they're dealing with a dead body, a bag
of money, and a killer. But he also tackles some
serious topics like grief and loneliness and all along with

(01:43:19):
his trademark humor, and it leaves you with a very
heartwarming and charming story.

Speaker 14 (01:43:24):
And I don't think anyone does it better than Richard Osmond.

Speaker 2 (01:43:26):
No, he does it beautifully. And that book was called
We Solve the Murders. I'm really impressed with your nonfiction
list too. There's a few on here that I've got
in my pile to read over the holidays.

Speaker 11 (01:43:37):
So first up is.

Speaker 23 (01:43:38):
Framed Jim mcclosby and John Grisham, And this is about
suffering and corruption and faith and perseverance and hopefully, at
the end of it, redemption. And it's the account of
very real stories faced by some innocent Americans who've been
wrongfully committed and most of these people are still in
jail from it. And it is compelling and it makes

(01:43:59):
you stop and think and look at that corruption and
the racism and the misconduct and the flawed silence science
dodgy testimony. And it's told in alternative stories by best
selling author John Grisham and a guy called John Jim
McCluskey who has worked for forty five years to free
innocent people in jail. And it is harrowing, and yeah,

(01:44:21):
it really makes you you think and take a step
back at maybe how you can judge.

Speaker 14 (01:44:26):
People too quickly at times, and yeah, one of those
things that sticks with you for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:44:30):
I think I've got a bit confused there with David McCloskey,
who was the former CIA agent turned author this is
not him. No, Jim Okay, Jim Okay, cop, What else
have you got on your list?

Speaker 23 (01:44:40):
So I've got The Siege by Ben McIntyre, And this
takes you back to nineteen eighty when sixth guvernment take
twenty six hostages in the Iranian embassy in London, an
event that.

Speaker 14 (01:44:51):
Echoes across decades.

Speaker 23 (01:44:53):
And he's drawn on interviews and never be seen files,
and he constructs the six days from numerous perspectives. The
terrorists have forced into a situation, and the essays to
life and the profittional men doing their job to try
and end the siege. And then really interestingly, police constable
a guy called Trevor Locke, and he was a very

(01:45:15):
ordinary man and he responds to this terrifying situation, and
he was an amazing leader with unbelievable carriage and a
very high stakes operation. And it almost reads like a
narrative thriller. And sometimes you have to remind yourself that
this is well events.

Speaker 2 (01:45:32):
And we've also gone from here to the great unknown.
Of course this was was this Lesa Marie Presley? Did
she begin writing this memory and it was finished for her?
Is that how this went?

Speaker 11 (01:45:42):
Yes?

Speaker 23 (01:45:42):
She did, and she recorded. I understand lots of her
memories are on tape, so there was lots of lots
of things to refer back to. And Riley Keo is
her daughter, and this is told them both their voices,
so both Lessa Marines and her daughters. And it's fascinating
and sad, and it talks about addiction and relationships, the

(01:46:02):
great times in their lives and some very awful moments.
Already shows her mum as a deeply flawed individual. But
you know, in a world where she's the daughter of
course of Alvis Presley, so everybody has these expectations around her.
And I was engrossed and fascinated by the story. And
I think Riley does her mother some real justice in
the way that she talks about her. And yeah, it

(01:46:24):
was it was yet painful to read, but a very
interesting story.

Speaker 2 (01:46:29):
Oh an amazing list, fabulous suggestions there for Christmas and
the holiday's Casperine, do you get a break? Do you
get to put the books down? Or does the reading
just carry on?

Speaker 23 (01:46:39):
To be honest, the reading just carries on because it's
big part of my life and I enjoy it, so yeah,
I'm going to read it up. To be honest, there's
going to be some pretty light beach reading and there
at times as well, I think so.

Speaker 2 (01:46:49):
Yeah, well and enjoy the summer, have a lovely summer,
and thank you so much for your contribution to the
show and look forward to talk to you next year.

Speaker 14 (01:46:57):
Thanks Francisca, Merry Christmas and to you too.

Speaker 2 (01:47:00):
That was Catherine Rainsley with the list. Now we will
try and get that list up on our website News
talksb dot co dot z if you just want to
cover off because there was one list of books there,
so we will get that list up on the website
for you. If you just think, gosh, what was that
third book that Catherine spoke about. It is sixteen to twelve.
We've got some new music for you coming up next.

Speaker 4 (01:47:21):
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Speaker 4 (01:47:59):
With these.

Speaker 2 (01:48:03):
This is Mahshmash Hannah I did practice. This is the
new album and the single off the album by Father
John Misty and joining me now to tell me all
about Father John Misty, who I'm quite liking, is a
stale Clifford good morning more than it's.

Speaker 16 (01:48:22):
One of those words that you can almost say better
if you don't.

Speaker 2 (01:48:24):
Look at it. Mahsh Mashana.

Speaker 16 (01:48:26):
Mahsh Mashana, I believe is Hindu for a great cremation pit.

Speaker 2 (01:48:35):
Okay, it's a scene and certainly does. And I look,
I really like this sound. I'm gonna be with you
a sale. I'm not hugely familiar with Father John Misty,
but I kind of there's a sort of a retro
sound to this sound, to this this sort of I.

Speaker 16 (01:48:50):
Think he's one of those artists who's been somewhere where
he did start off being sort of like slow poppy
in his very early years, but he's transitioned into this
kind of like indie rock pop sort of artist. And
this album here, he's gone to a whole other level
because it's quite orchestral, got funk soul sometimes and like
so that's the starting song, which burg orchestral sweeps right,

(01:49:12):
and then straight after that you're into indie rock and
it's grunge guitar and you're like, wow, what.

Speaker 14 (01:49:18):
Is this guy?

Speaker 16 (01:49:19):
But that's interesting thing about Father John Misty. He is
a guy who actually, for quite a few years he
was a drummer in a band called Fleet Fox's.

Speaker 2 (01:49:27):
Oh yes, I know, Fleet Fox's okay falling into place now, Yeah,
So here's.

Speaker 16 (01:49:31):
Their drummer for a couple of albums in one massive tour.
He had done some solo stuff before that under his
own name, Josh Hillman, which didn't really go too far
for him, and then coming out of touring with them,
that was kind of like some material was coming to
him and he made this alter ego of father John Misty.
He's someone who was brought up in a very religious household.

(01:49:51):
They weren't allowed to listen to much modern music, and
I guess some of his albums have probably fallen into like,
you know, talking about what that is, because actually some
of his lyrics are very tongue in cheek and you know,
citing how it was for his life growing up. So
he's got quite a big background and being a musician.

(01:50:13):
He's also one of those people who he produces his
own stuff, but he's also worked on albums for like
Beyonce and Lady Gaga, Kid Cuddy. I think he's done
some producing on those kind of albums, so I reckon.
He's like Indie's music version of Ryan Tedder from One
Republic Gotcha. He's very musically talented, and you can tell
that when he can then release an album like this

(01:50:37):
where his lyrics are very poetic. If you think John
Lennon those kind of people, they write some really deep
stuff that you sometimes don't hear the first few times
and then you're like, ah, okay, I'm kind of going somewhere. Also,
why would you name your album after cromation Pit? But
it's kind of like him saying I'm shedding off that

(01:50:59):
and moving into a new season. So there's a lot
of rumors around this album being possibly his or one
as father John Misty.

Speaker 14 (01:51:08):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:51:08):
It's interesting though, when you say, you know, things might
not strike you at first, but they are the albums
I love. I love when you yeah, when you take
a first part in an album and you go, oh,
I'm going to listen to this again and again because
there is so much there. There is so much to
absorb and it's going to keep me, you know. Just
I love that feeling when you play an album for
the first time.

Speaker 16 (01:51:27):
I do too, And because he writes in that sort
of poetic and then slight storytellerway. You're like, wow, there's
something really evolving here. Mahashmashana. That song sounds like it
should be, you know, like a crescendo in a movie
when something quite traumatic or big has happened. And then
you go into the electro blues reverb on the mic,
and the lyrics that go with that are very think

(01:51:49):
what did they say, Mary Magdalene as kill Bill? So
you're getting kind of my idea of what you're listening to,
and I think you're right because you can stay with
that album for a long time. You don't bore of
something like that when there's like some really beautiful lyrics
that have been put together with then some incredible layering
of really clever music and musicianship and you know's and

(01:52:12):
he's not someone who's going to shy away from where
he's been that he has dabbled in drugs. He's become
a parent. Life is supposed to be this, and he
kind of shares all of that. How are we supposed
to cope in this world that seems so focused on
capitalism and greed? But actually it becoming a dad you
suddenly go, hey, the world is actually quite innocent through

(01:52:33):
their eyes. So it's an interesting thing to sort of
put into a concept. I guess he's on a lot
of concept albums because of that.

Speaker 2 (01:52:39):
You mentioned that sort of in the first couple of songs,
you're getting a quite different sort of genre. Does that
carry on throughout the album? Does he sort of settle
into a bit of a style.

Speaker 16 (01:52:49):
I would say that it leans quite heavily towards orchestral,
so there's a lot more of the strings and then
suddenly like big keys and things like that, but then
there'll be this one or two breakouts. But I would
say it's probably more orchestral than it is anything else,
which is why I think the song She Cleaned Up
really stands out, which you're gonna share a little bit

(01:53:11):
of just so you can hear the opposing kind of sounds.
There's also a bit of like that jazz funk sort
of keys, like he's at some sort of jazz bar
and a trumpet, and so it's quite a ride musically,
and not in a bad way though, like I think,
because he's so skilled at what he does, it's actually
a really enjoyable ride, and it keeps you kind of
with him. It is quite nostalgic, so definitely more of

(01:53:32):
that seventies leaning kind of soul funk sort of thing
going on. But again I think because yeah, I don't know,
I actually quite like it. It keeps me more interested
than when it's just one genre.

Speaker 2 (01:53:46):
Perhaps, you know, like absolutely no, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 16 (01:53:49):
But definitely more orchestral than he's probably ever done in
any of his albums before. There's a lot of big arrangements,
so that's obviously something he's playing with at the moment,
but it fits so perfectly with his storytelling and what
he's doing so that those big, crazy breakout moments. Screenland
is another one of those songs. Again he's lulled into
these like ballads and orchestral moments and then Screamland comes

(01:54:10):
out and it's exactly what you'd imagine in a song
called Screamland.

Speaker 2 (01:54:13):
Is what do you rate it, Estelle?

Speaker 16 (01:54:15):
I'm giving out a nine out of ten. This is
an album you should definitely give some time and it
will grow on you and I think it might become
one of those faves.

Speaker 2 (01:54:22):
Estelle, thank you so much for your contribution to the
show throughout the year, for always in me to good
new music and giving me some look. I think this
is going to be perfect as I drive around the gun. Yes, yeah,
thank you very much, and Merry Christmas. We're going to play.
As Estelle said, we're going to play another track. She
cleans up in just a moment. Six to twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:54:43):
A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday Mornings with
Jack Day and bpewer dot co dot zead for high
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Speaker 2 (01:54:51):
Be Thank you so much for joining us this morning.
Of course, coming up next Jason Pine is going to
be with you with Weekend Sport. She's going to be
talking cricket. Where's the Where is the home of test
cricket here in New Zealand. Steve's already text to say, man,
Eden is the home of the ODIs in Hagley Park,
the home of test cricket, And I tend to think
that steals onto something there. But finally, it's going to

(01:55:11):
be really keen to hear from you this afternoon. Thank
you so much to Libby for producing the show. You
are free, Libby, an amazing year, well done, and on
behalf of Jack and the whole team here. Thank you
so much for listening to Saturday Mornings throughout the year.
I am going to be back tomorrow morning on the
Sunday session at nine. If you're a Downton Abbey fan,
you might want to be listening to start to ten
because I've got Hugh Bonneville joining us for our final

(01:55:33):
show of the year. He of course is one of
the stars of Paddington Bear. The third film is out
on January first, so we've got some We're going to
talk all Paddington and Downton Abbey tomorrow. We're going to
finish up with some music from Father John Misty. The
album that we were talking about is my hash mahash
Mashana and this song is called She Cleans Up. Enjoy

(01:55:54):
us see tomorrow morning at nine.

Speaker 4 (01:55:56):
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