Full Show Podcast: 22 February 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
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Speaker 3 (00:45):
Good Morning, New Zealand. Welcome to News Talks eDV. Jack
Taine with you through it in the day today and
what a weekend we have. We've got the derby, the
third derby in the A League between Auckland FC and
the Phoenix kicking off and Tarmaqa Makoto Auckland this evening
five o'clock. Cannot wait for that Electric cab in today
two in christ Church. That is it's really morphed into

(01:06):
like an incredible concert slash festival experience. Hey, I mean
just look at the lineup this year, The Prodigy, the Kooks,
astonishing for the three. So we're going to take you
live to christ Church as Electric av continues in our
feature interview after ten o'clock this morning. I'm really excited
about this. One Groove Armada, four time Glastonbury headliners are

(01:26):
going to be with us. They'll be with us right
after ten o'clock. Right now, though it is eight minutes
past nine Jack And in the end it was just
over an hour, just over an hour between being asleep
on the floor of Auckland Hospital to standing bewildered under
the delivery sweet lights helping to dress my newborn son.

(01:48):
Marva had been induced on Sunday. The scans had suggested
that all was okay, but that our baby was a
wee bit small for his gestational age, and we spent
an oddly serene day waiting for the induction medication to
kick in. You know, they give you like a dose
of the stuff every day two hours until you go
into labor, but sometimes it takes a few hours to work,

(02:11):
and sometimes it can take days. It was actually, it
was weird. It was kind of lovely in a way.
Marv and I just had a really chill day. We
both read for hours in between the doses. We went
for coffee, we went for a stroll in the domain.
Marv constantly assessing babies every shift and every hint of
a contraction. My goodness, though when it happened, it happened

(02:38):
zero to one hundred a blur. I won't, I won't labor,
you sing with all the details, but well, it's become
clear to me that there was a reason every parent
has a birth story. It was just it was surreal.
It felt like a week's worth of crazy experiences happened

(02:59):
in the space of about fifteen minutes. It was beautiful,
it was it was violent, it was it was wild,
it was traumatic, it was thrilling, it was animal, It
was all all these different things. Marvel was incredible, She
was amazing. I felt so proud of her and yet

(03:20):
so helpless at the same time, and weirdly, through it all,
I felt kind of calm. I'm not bragging about that.
I'm not saying that calmness was a good response. Honestly,
I was probably just a bit stunned. And it turned
out that our son was too. When he came out,
they had to hurry him off and chuck him on

(03:41):
the oxygen, and he regained his color soon enough. I
kind of took my cues from the well, from our
amazing midwife and from the other hospital staff who were
standing around. They weren't freaking out too much, and so
I didn't either. The scans were right. Our son was
small for his gestational age, about five and a half pounds,
so two and a half kgs at a turned baby,

(04:04):
but what he lacked in size he made up for
in his capacity to feed. Once he joined us. There
can be no doubt he has inherited my skin tone,
my hair color, and my appetite. This morning is the
longest that I've been away from him in his life,
but at five days old, I know him well enough

(04:25):
to know that right now he is probably feeding. And
isn't it amazing how instinct works out of the womb,
almost totally blind, and yet he absolutely throws himself at
the boob, head back, mouth wide latch. Who taught him that? Okay,

(04:46):
I've got a few random takeaways from the week. Number
one the placenta. Wow, I mean that thing could feed
a family, for my goodness. Number two, we had three
nights in hospital and a couple more in birthcare afterwards,
and if our experience of the New Zealand healthcare system
this week is any to go by, it is being

(05:08):
almost completely held together by migrant workers, Indian people, Filipinos, Europeans,
South Americans, pacifica. They were fantastic and for all the
justified concerns over the healthcare system as a whole, we
had a really positive experience and just felt so grateful,

(05:29):
so grateful to the people who were working in what
can often be very tricky conditions. And my number three
takeaway women's bodies. Oh my goodness. I mean men might think, oh,
we can run a bit faster, or we can jump
a bit higher, but honestly, women's bodies to have the

(05:50):
capacity to grow an entire human being from his skinny
little frog legs folded up to his belly, to his
tiny little fingernails, to the lightest fur on his pink
little cheeks, to grow him, birth him, and then, having
done it all, having done everything, to immediately switch to

(06:10):
nourishing him day and night, hour after hour after hour.
What can I tell you about our son? Well, I
think he's got his mum's eyes. He sucks his thumb.
His first music was the Coln Concert and he made
sure to stay up to watch Will Young and Tom

(06:30):
Latham score centuries against Pakistan. His name is going to
be finalized soon enough, and when he's bulked up a bit,
he's got a long list of visitors waiting to meet
him too. After five nights away yesterday, I put our
son in his car seat and drove him home. His
older brother ran home from school and cuddled him on
the couch through the madness and exhaustion of the week,

(06:53):
running on caffeine, sugar and love. We sat there together
a family and it was perfect. Jack dam ninety two.
Ninety two is our text number if you want to
get in touch. This morning, Jack at Newstalk ZEDB dot
co dot Nz. We are heading into Oscar season, and
so this morning our film reviewer is doing something a
little bit different. She's looking at two Oscar nominated documentaries

(07:16):
in her reviews this week, so we'll share those with
you very shortly. Kevin Milner is going to be in
next right now, it's fourteen minutes past nine. I'm Jack Tame.
This is Newstalks ZEDB, a little bit.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Of way to kick off your weekend.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
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Speaker 3 (07:35):
Congratulations Jack, Are you getting much sleep? Ha ha ha ha.
We all know, we all know the answer to that. Yeah. Look,
it's fair to say that our sun seems more focused
on feeding and sleeping at the moment, and that's absolutely
fine by me. But yeah, we're getting used to the
there's not a whole lot of routine at the moment
on that front, but I'm sure it's I'm sure it's

(07:56):
going to come. I am pleased that he's managed to
time has run for the champions trophy, so that at
the very least, if we are sitting there waiting for
him to finally nod off, I can grab my iPad
and chick in on the latest game. Ninety two is
our text number. If you want to see a sub message.
Don't forget the standard text costs apply if you are
seeing your sub message, and I'll get to some of

(08:17):
your messages very shortly. Kevin Milne is with us this morning.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Morning sir, and congratulations Jack to you and Marba. Your
life's changed forever of course, and and and your peace
was just superb Thanksgiving. Yeah, yeah, it's.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
I mean, I just feel like all the cliches are
all the cliches ring true, you know, like all of
the kind of the whole crazy blend of emotions and
you know, and the sweeping feelings of love and all
of that stuff is so true. But I can also
see why everyone has a birth story. Everyone, you know,
Everyone's like, oh, here's what happened. To me, Here's what

(08:58):
happened to me. Here's what happened to me. It feels
like this really what's strange about it. It feels like a crazy,
kind of wild and and definitely traumatic experience. But you
have these really intense positive emotions and these really intense
kind of you know, fearful emotions and all these other things.
You have it, but no one else in your life
is having it. So you and your your partner are

(09:20):
having it. No one else in your life is having it.
And then you have it, and then three hours later,
with a bit of luck, things are all good and
you know, and the world's gone back to normal and
you're moving on. Yeah, it's oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Now what do I.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Take it that your lovely baby boy doesn't have those
piercing blue eyes.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Well, they've sort of got he's we think they've caught
it kind of gray blue at the moment, and so
we and Google says that it's going to take a
few months for that to be finalized. So yeah, we're
waiting to see if he's got there. He has inherited
my pink skin, which is I mean, my wife's because
she's Middle Eastern, you know, she's got the lovely kind
of olive his skin. And we did look at it

(09:59):
and look at them the other day and we thought, oh,
maybe he is looking a bit olive them. We're saying
to each other, that's good. He's got a bit of
the olive undertones to his skin. And then the nurse
walked in and she said, oh, your baby's looking a
bit jaunt us. I probably need to take him outside
give him it a son. Okay, but yeah, we'll see.
But anyway, Kevin, you want to talk about baby names

(10:20):
this morning?

Speaker 4 (10:21):
Well, I thought, saying that we waited for the official
announcement of your gorgeous baby boy's name. I talk about
baby naming. Firstly, McKee advice not to you, but to
the listeners really is, if you're not one of the parents,
stay out of it. But I admit that I've been
unable to resist trying to help my son and his

(10:42):
partner with names for their boys. For the record, they've
not gone with any suggestion I made for either of
their two boys, and good on them. The second point
i'd say I reckon is that if you don't like
the name that someone else has given their child, don't
say anything negative. The line has drawn.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
The curse that is cast.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
As Bob Dnnan had put it, no one is going
to change the name of their baby because you don't
like it, but they may well remember for the rest
of their lives that you expressed the dislike for their
child's name. I think even subtle statements of dislikes, such
as well, that's an odd one or a cheerless never

(11:21):
heard that name before, is unwelcome. Nor can you get
away with saying nothing. In my opinion, there's only one
way to react when parents announce the name of their baby.
It is fabulous love it. I think it's reasonable to
our parents why they chose the name and where did
that name come from, as long as you're genuinely interested

(11:42):
and not just trying to make a point. It's interesting
how babies' names come under intense scrutiny, jack, isn't it
when they're announced. I remember when our daughter was born
and we called her Tommy. People would look puzzled and say,
but that's a boy's name. Did they think that we
had somehow made a mistake, We'd bought the book of

(12:04):
names and had chosen on the wrong list, the boys list.
When people said to me, but Tommy's a boy's name.
I've found that some simple just to say it isn't anymore.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
So there we go and we.

Speaker 4 (12:20):
Look forward to hearing, Yeah, in good time, the wonderful name.
I'm sure you'll come up with.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Well, it's funny how you get six weeks I think,
or so it's six weeks or so to kind of
finalize it and decide it which is good. And we've
you know, we've we've i mean been given it a
bit of thought. And my wife and I have slightly
different approaches because she's I've been like, let's get organized,
come on, let's sort of out a name before he's born,
and she was like, no, I've got to I've got
to meet him before I can before I came. So

(12:47):
we sort of had a bit of a long list.
Tell you the other thing that is the thing that
has changed baby naming these days chat GPT. Oh, it's
one of them. It's really because you know, there are
all sorts of apps for baby naming in these things
these days, but you can go to go to something
like chat GPT and you can say, oh, you know,
what's a three syllable name of Persian origin that starts

(13:13):
with the letter T, and then it'll come up with
lots of different you know, lots of different options like that,
and then you can say, what does that name mean?
Compare it to some other options. It's yeah, it's changed
the game a little bit. So I will make sure
to report back on that front when we've when we've
got a lockdown given.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
I have no doubt.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
Well, congratulations again, Jack, Absolutely brilliant. Please hear thing's gone well.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
Yeah, really appreciated Kevin. Kevin Wilm with us this morning.
Thank you for all your lovely messages as well, so
says Jack. I cry with joy this morning. That's beautiful.
Thank you, Sue. Oh, it's you and our son together.
I'm not sure it's my words. It's moving him necessarily. Jack.
Congratulations to you and Marva. Great news. I really enjoyed
your story this morning, says Carol. I appreciate it, Carol.

(13:54):
Don't worry. I'm not going to go on and on
and on about it this morning. There are rather things
happening in the world. Although anything to distract us from
the Chief Crusader's result last night probably isn't a bad thing.
We'll get us Sporto's thoughts on that in a couple
of minutes. Right now, it's twenty three minutes past nine.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Getting your weekends started.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
It's Saturday morning with Jack team on NEWSTALKSB.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
We are going to make the most of the last
of the stone fruit this summer. Befourteen o'clock. We've got
a peach and blueberry Franger Penny Tart recipe this year
with you, which sure sounds absolutely fantastic, doesn't it. I'm
sure our Sporto will be into that. Andrew Saville is
with us this morning.

Speaker 5 (14:34):
Good morning, sir, Morning Jack, big congrats, Thank you to
you and your lovely wife. Welcome to the club. The
couple of couple of key concerns though, and you're opening
spiel the use of the word violent and the placenta
could feed a family of four.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
But I mean, do you not? I mean, I was
in the delivery suite. Birth is this is violence. It
is violence looks like a you know, at least at
least in our experience, it was, although it.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
Must have I didn't see much. I almost fainted and
had to sit a seat in the corner. Was useless money,
do you go?

Speaker 3 (15:14):
I mean, I don't think I felt more useless in
my life or more helpless. You know. I'm just like,
there's not a lot I can say right now that's
gonna make my wife feel better, And there's nothing that
the doctors or the midwives need me to, you know,
really help out with. I'm just going to keep my
mouth shut. And so Marve didn't really want to be
touched while she was having contractions, and of course, so

(15:36):
I sort of just going through this intense pain and stuff,
and the midwives a kind of looking at you, thinking
like why and you want rubbing her back or something like,
she really doesn't want me to do that right now.
But of course you look like a bit of a
muffet just sitting there in the corner. And yeah, I
mean a percenter. Wow, if you were to packaged that
up and you know, put it in one of those

(15:57):
plastic trays, a little bit of cling film over the top,
and put it in the freezer and a you know,
in a supermarket somewhere. I mean, this is the thing, though,
this is it is. We are animals.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
I think the nation has just pushed it scrambled eggs
and bacon aside. And what a bit I mean, hey,
given what happened last night. Can I suggest some names,
maybe Clayton, Damien Sammapenny.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Yeah, I'm not I'm not sure I'm going to be
going in those options. The Crusaders wasn't that they were bad,
It's just that the Chiefs were really good.

Speaker 5 (16:31):
Made that second half from the Chiefs. Yeah, yeah, that's
the first half. I think the Chiefs only led seventeen
fourteen at the break, and the Crusaders in that first
half scored a another stunner of a try pretty much
length to the field. What we're noticing already in the
first couple of weeks, Jack, is that the play is
a lot quicker. It's a lot more open. We're seeing

(16:51):
obviously a lot more tries and points scored. It has
really become a game of a robe of patrician and
also physical attrition as well. But in that second half,
the Chiefs got the proverbial put up them at halftime
by the coaching staff. They came out and they scored

(17:12):
five tries in the second half, twenty nine unanswered points
in thirty minutes against a Crusaders team. Like you say,
they didn't play too badly compared to last year. Anyway,
I thought Damien McKenzie was on five from fullback and
whenever he came into first receivers something would happen. He's
an outstanding form already. I thought the Chiefs pack was immense,

(17:34):
huge scrum, number of penalties from the scrum for the Chiefs,
but also the Chiefs pack is mobile. They're all ball players.
So that second half, if you ever want to watch away
how to play modern day rugby, that second half for
the Chiefs. The key concern, as I mentioned, the pace
of the game now, a lot of injuries, a few

(17:55):
head injury assessments last night. It is going to be
pretty much last man standing. I think if this Super
Rugby season carries on the way it is.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
Derby Day in of course the third derby between Auckland
FC and Wellington Phoenix. What do you think the chances
are that the Phoenix get up? They've lost the other
two derby games so far this season, but what do
you reckon the chances are they might pull off a victory.

Speaker 5 (18:21):
They wouldn't surprise me if it's a draw, wouldn't surprise
me if they'd slipped in a tight win. It's a
sunny day in Auckland, which is good great for the
sold out crowd again today, probably run twenty four to
twenty five thousand, which is superb for this new team. Look,
the Phoenix will be up for It is this feeling

(18:43):
between the two teams which is fantastic for football and
for the sport, for sport rather in general. It'll be
fantastic atmosphere. So look, yeah, it's going to be I'm
sure a hard fought game. The Auckland FC team is shown.
They can score late late late in the game and

(19:03):
win type games. The very close team and morale, I'm
sure it is pretty high. They still lead the competition,
which is fantastic for a first year outfit. So really
looking forward to to number three Derby later today.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
Yeah, a bit of this mooting for Joseph Parker. So
he's going to be fighting what's the name, Martin Pecoli.

Speaker 5 (19:22):
Yeah, well let down. He hasn't fought since this is
Parker last March, and he's trained so much in the
last twelve months. He's had a fight and then it's
been called off. He's had other fights and it's been
called off, and then it was his big chance to
go for a world title again tomorrow in Saudi Arabia
Daniel Dubois, the Englishman pulls out ill. There are some suspicions,

(19:44):
as you come to expect and boxing that how ill
was he or is he? It's all rather murkhy and clandestine. However,
there is no world title on the line tomorrow morning,
and now it's become more of a banana skin fight,
I think for Parker because maybe subconsciously he might well
relax a bit knowing there's not a world title on

(20:05):
the line. Martin Pecole is a big, big bloke. He's
a banger, as they say in boxing, So this is
a This is a tricky fight for Joseph Parker, but
good on and for taking it on, and good on
Martin Baccoli for taking it on at two days. Notice.
This fitness might not be right up there, but it
should be an interesting fight. Although you're very disappointing for
Joseph Parker to not be up for a wheel title

(20:27):
a year.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yeah, it is all right. Thanks v great to get
great to chat, sir, how Sporto Andrews Saville Before ten
o'clock this morning, we're going to share that recipe for
the peach and blueberry Fran Japanni Tart. Next up, our
film reviewer has her thoughts on a couple of Oscar
nominated documentaries. Right now, it is twenty eight minutes to
ten and your Projectaime on Newstalks, he'd be we're mixing

(21:07):
things up this morning on Newstiks. We wouldn't usually play
the Prodigy, not before ten anyway, but of course the
Prodigy are playing Electric AV this weekend in christ Church
two Day Festival and it's really just gone from strength
to strength Electric AV. So before before the day said
we're going to take you live there. Get a bit
of a take from our man on the ground as
to how it's all gone down so far. Here amazing,

(21:29):
amazing line up the Prodigy, the Kook's playing, it's Electric
AV as well. So we're going to get the full
rundown on Australasia's biggest FESTI before twelve o'clock right now though,
it's time to get your movie picks for this weekend.
And Francesca rud Can, our movie reviewer, is here with
us this morning.

Speaker 6 (21:44):
Killedo oh, good morning Jack, And just like everybody else,
I just wors like congratulations to you. It's very exciting
to hear about the new addition to your family.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
Thank you, thank you. It's very kind. Yep, And I'm
sure you will understand if I'm slurring my words this morning.
It's just a little, just a little bit. It's one
of those kind of weeks. Yeah, I can.

Speaker 6 (22:04):
And I'm just really strolled that we had some good
news because the two films that I have picked to
talk about today are definitely very confronting films that really
the sort of face the worst about humanity. So I'm
glad that you're able to give us some good news
while I then kind of get quite somber, gretty.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
Yeah, but that's yeah, I know you said, you go,
as I.

Speaker 6 (22:26):
Said, just before we launch into them, I just want
to say, of course, the Oscars are coming up on
the third of March. Doc Play, which is a streaming service,
this week on the twenty fourth of February, they're actually
going to be screening at least three of the OSCAR
nominated documentary so that's Black Box Diaries, No Other Land
and soundtrack to the Coudit Her There's They've also got

(22:47):
a couple of other films on there which were shortlisted
for Best Documentary as well. The Biby files and things,
so there's a lot of really great material on there.
If you like the documentaries, This week is a week
to head to dock play check out.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Okay, that's that's a really good tip. I love to
search out the Oscar nomin docks because I always I
always think, you know, you can never get to all
of the Oscar films, so you probably can for the ESCA,
but I can never get through them all. But I
always prioritize the documentary because they are amazing. Although, as
you say, these two sound pretty pretty gritty and confronting,
so let's have a listen to the first one. This
is no other Land tho thousand Palestinians beast one of

(23:30):
the single biggest expulsion decisions. Sinceny is really occupation of
the Paradlanian territories began. Okay, that's no other land. And yes,
as the trailer suggests, this is fairly topical at the moment,
it is.

Speaker 6 (23:46):
And look, it's no surprise that this film has ended
up on the Oscarists nominated for Best Documentary. It has
been winning awards all around the world at all the
major film festivals. It cannot for probably political reasons, get
a distributor distributor in the US, but I think that
that will probably change soon. This is a film made

(24:07):
by a Palestinian Israeli collective. So it's led by Palestinian
filmmaker Basil Adra and he's from the West Bank. He's
an activist and he's also a lawyer. He's young, he's
about twenty eight years old now, but he has been
filming what has been happening in his area, for in

(24:29):
Masafa Yata since he was a young boy, since he
was a teenager. His parents were also activists. He is
joined by an Israeli journalist, Yuval Abraham, and then there's
a couple of other people involved. But these two are
not only kind of directing and producing this film, they
also are kind of they star in it as well.

(24:49):
We follow them on their journey and it captures the
slow distraction of the occupied West Bank area region of
Musafa Yatta. And look, they have been fighting since the
nineteen eighties to remain on the land, the Palestinians who
live there. The Israelis want to turn it into a

(25:12):
military training zone, and they've been able to sort of
go to the courts and prevent things happening and things.
But then pretty much since twenty twenty, the Israeli authorities
argued that the Palestinian communities had not been permanent residents
to the area and they didn't have the right to
live there. So they then began sort of in twenty
twenty two, going in and just destroying people's bulldozing people's homes,

(25:37):
cutting off the water, the electricity, and so you see
these people, you see this all happening. So it's an
emotional film without trying to be emotionally manipulative, if you mean,
because they're literally just standing their film with what happens
and how it's all unfolding, and the way everybody's treated
and the ankst and the emotion around it. It is
really heartbreaking because there doesn't seem to be any solution

(26:00):
or any hope, and that's what you really get from
these two filmmakers, and as they they capture all this
in real time. And yeah, what's also really interesting is
the relationship between the two of them, which also gives
you a bit of an understanding about this area and
what it is like to live there. So of course

(26:21):
Buzzil he is from this area. He went to university
he got a law degree. There are no jobs in
the West Bank. He can only work in construction. He
can't leave the area. He is under military law. Whereas
Val who comes from Jerusalem to film and write stories
and work with him on this project, he is free
to go wherever he wants. He's civilian law. So there's

(26:45):
this really great contrast between the two of them. There's
two young men about the same age, and the different
lives that they're able and not able to live is
also kind of made quite transparent in the story.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
Right, Yeah, that sounds really interesting and like you said,
really confronting as well. But yeah, it's going to be
interesting to see, given the kind of politics around it,
how that does at the OSCARS. Given it can't even
get a distributor in the US, so that's no other land.
And next up another documentary nominated for an oscar. In
a couple of weeks time, let's you listen to Black

(27:17):
Box Diaries.

Speaker 6 (27:18):
I have tell s about what happens.

Speaker 7 (27:23):
Scared, but all I want to do is talk about
the truth.

Speaker 8 (27:28):
Many people already witness what kind of negative reaction I've got.

Speaker 9 (27:35):
Or just a systems not origin.

Speaker 6 (27:37):
Without these recordings, no one would believe what I heard.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
Okay, that's black Box Diaries tell us about it. Francisco.

Speaker 6 (27:45):
Yes, So this is also a documentary which has sort
of been years in the making as well. This is
a story of the Japanese journalist who investigates her own
sexual assault and an attempt to sort of modernize some
quite antiquated sexual assault laws in Japan. She already Ito
it directs and is the face of this film. Is
this journalist and she was raped in two thousand fifteen,

(28:08):
and the beginning of the film shows us this particular incident.
So a very senior journalist, she was applying for a job,
she went to meet him. Turns out it was a
dinner she claims to have been drugged, and then on
the taxi on the way home, the journalist takes me
back to the hotel, even though she claims that she
wanted to be let off at a station. And then

(28:28):
and then she's taken into the hotel and the assault happens,
and the film this is sort of announced to us
at the beginning of the film with a conversation with
her taxi driver, and then you see the footage of
her being dragged out of the taxi at the hotel,
clearly dragged and sort of taken into this hotel. So
it's quite a harrowing start to this story, but it's

(28:51):
basically we follow her as she then decides to come
forward and requests a civil yet sorry, criminal needs to
be brought and only about four percent of sexual assaults
reported in Japan. It's not something people want to do
and they very rarely put their faces out there, and
she's actually decided, I have to do this. This is ridiculous.

(29:11):
I have to do this. I have to we have
to try and change these laws in our and our
attitude towards sexual assault. And this causes a bit of
a fraction, you know, causes a bit of friction with
her family. And then we follow her on this journey
and she loses the criminal case, but she then brings
a civil case, which she need wins, and she writes
a book about it, and she's sort of documented this

(29:35):
in this film the whole way through once again. And
then of course in the middle of all this, me
too happens and finally people go, hang on, this is
really big, quite scandalous case. Because the journalist also who
was involved was a close friend of the prime minister's
So there was a lot of scandal here but no
one picked up on it, which just and she got
a lot of abuse and she you know, life was

(29:55):
very very difficult for her for about eight years. But
you know she's she's stuck to her guns and has
had quite an impact when it comes to talking about
sexual abuse in Japan.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
So it's amazing. Y. Yeah, so that's black Box Diaries.

Speaker 6 (30:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
I was thinking our Oscar nominated documentaries ever very uplifting,
and then I remember my Octopus teacher won Oscar, didn't it,
and that was that was cool. I don't know if
it was uplifting, but it was, you know, it was
as gritty as these ones. Anyway, they do sound like
amazing bits of storytelling. So thank you very much, Fantasica
black Box Diaries and no Other Land her film picks

(30:38):
for this week. Both of those are nominated for an
Oscar which is on March third, I think New Zealand time,
and we'll have all the details for them on the
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You should see what names I hear. Sometimes I think
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Speaker 10 (31:40):
Hey, hey, congratulations, thank you, thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
We've done a lot of feeding for all of us
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Start dropping your meals off now, so shall be that
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Speaker 3 (31:58):
Yes, yeah, I could say, hey, you've got a delicious Yeah,
you've got a delicious recipe for us this morning, a
peach and blueberry frang of panny tart. And the yellow
peaches are just sort of like, you're perfect right now.
The white peaches are maybe just past it, but the
yellow peaches are on points, I think.

Speaker 10 (32:16):
So yeah, and the Golden queens, and I just wanted
to slip this little recipe and now at this sort
of end of feed because to be honest, peaches and blueberries,
you know, they won't be around forever people, so we're
really going to get into them now, I reckon. So, yeah,
this is a beautiful franchi of pony tat and it's
super easy. You can make it even easier for yourself
by buying the sweet short pastry that kind of goes

(32:37):
on the base. And then we have this beautiful frang
of poney filling that is studded with the fruit. So
I'll run your street and it's super easy. Heat your oven.
It does it is it a bit of a hot
heat two hundred degrees celsius. That's not fan bake. If
you want to go fan bake you're more like one ninety.
Place the tray in there to heat up as well,
because we're going to put our tart on there, and

(32:57):
I think the great thing is that sort of helps.

Speaker 11 (32:59):
The pastry cook.

Speaker 10 (33:01):
I've used a twenty five centimeter loose spottom tart and
that's sort of fluted around the edges, so that's kind
of like a kish tin something like that, but not ceramic.

Speaker 11 (33:09):
You want it in here.

Speaker 10 (33:11):
Put the sweet roll, your sweet short pastry out so
that it fits and comes up the sides. The great
thing about short pastry jack is it falls apart easily,
but it's easy to do a patch up job. It
doesn't have to be perfect because it's going to get
smothered with a whole lot of other yummy stuff.

Speaker 11 (33:27):
So if you you know, if it tears a little bit,
just patch it up and no problem.

Speaker 10 (33:30):
Prick it all over with the fork and then pop
that in the freezer and chill it while you make
your french. A parney filling. French party filling is ground almonds.
A ground almond filling. I like it, though it doesn't
have the taint of sort of almond essence or mars
a pen or anything like that it's just that beautiful
filling nut of the nuts. You cream some butter and
two hundred grams of soft butter, and I love this

(33:52):
time of the year because if you leave the butter out,
it's that perfect consistency for creaming it with sugar one
hundred and fifty grams of kast of sugar and then
just beat that and it'll go really light and creamy.
You want to add in three eggs, but I do
that one at a time, sort of beating kind of
for about twenty minutes twenty seconds in between each one,
and then stir in two hundred grams of ground flow

(34:13):
of ground almonds and four tablespoons of plain flour. You
could use gluten free flour for that and be no
problem mix it until it's just combined. I don't worry
with vanilla escnce or anything with this jat because I
think it just we just want the pure, beautiful flavor
of the peaches and the blueberries to come through. So
then we spoon this filling over onto our chilled pastry

(34:36):
and spread it nice and evenly, and then stud it
with the four fresh peaches peeled and quart it and
one hundred and fifty grams of blueberries and just throw
that on top. The sort of the fringe of pani
will actually rise up around the.

Speaker 11 (34:51):
Fruit a little bit as well.

Speaker 10 (34:53):
Put it on that heat to tray cook it for
about thirty five minutes or until the filling is ready set,
and it's kind of a beautiful golden brown cool it.
I think it's much better eaten cold, this tart, although
what I should say is you can also brush the
top of it with some warmedhummet honey or maple syrup
and it just gives it that gloss, you know, which

(35:15):
I think is really what we're after, and serve it
with some beautiful whipped cream and it's just beautiful. It's
such a gorgeous tart for dessert or just snacking on.

Speaker 3 (35:25):
The thing is the franchi panny. Just like ground almonds.
There's something magic. It's the fat content, like it really
just give it's the fat content. It really gives it
something special.

Speaker 12 (35:37):
Eh.

Speaker 11 (35:38):
It's so rich and beautiful.

Speaker 10 (35:40):
You've got three eggs to enriches, so there's actually lots
of protein this tart, so it's quite filling. You're not
going to find yourself going back for more and more
because it's just bubblegum. You know, you really are quite
satisfied eating this. I just absolutely love it. Can I
just say that you've caught me this morning. I've just
stepped out of a judging panel where I'm helping to

(36:00):
judge the Outstanding.

Speaker 11 (36:01):
Food Producers Awards for New Zealand.

Speaker 10 (36:03):
Yesterday I was on seafood this morning, Jack Paul me,
I've been on gelato.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Yeah, you just see, if you just work yourself into
these positions, I love that. Can I just say you
can just say and all of us are just going
to feel nice and.

Speaker 11 (36:19):
For the results coming.

Speaker 10 (36:20):
Up, because I mean I just imagine some beautiful gelato
or ice cream to go with this tartan.

Speaker 11 (36:26):
Yeah, it would be pretty fantastic.

Speaker 3 (36:27):
It would be just just oh, sorry, you go.

Speaker 10 (36:32):
I was just going to say, I've also included online
and the faced pastry. Miss if you want to make it,
you know, making it yourself, but you know you can
make it easier by just giving some strawboard And.

Speaker 11 (36:42):
Sorry, what were you going to say?

Speaker 3 (36:44):
I was just going to say, make sure you pick
a gelato that's nice and elastic. That's what I like
about my rich It's nice and striches superb Okay, well,
look we'll put that recipe up on the news talks.
He'd be website. Thank you so much, Nikky, and you're
your very tough gig and we will catch again soon.

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That's crazy. One of the most successful electronic dance artists
or duos certainly of all time. They are making their
way to New Zealand, of course, and right after ten
o'clock they're going to join us to tell us about

(37:42):
their tour, tell us about how electronic music is changing,
and tell us about some of the other things in
their lives. There cannot be many electronic music artists who
are passionate regenerative farming enthusiasts, for example. So yeah, really
looking forward to catching up with the boys as well
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Speaker 3 (39:12):
Ah So Good. Groov Ar Mada are legends of dance
and electronic music. Tom Finlay and Andy Cato make up
the duo and have been pumping out tracks for more
than a quarter of a century, now building a reputation
as one of the very best. They've captured the magic.
They've reached iconic status. They've had to cancel gigs because

(39:34):
they were scared that too many people would turn up. Yes,
that's the thing, and now they're coming back to New
Zealand to round off our summer with a bang. Tom
and Andy of Groove Armada are with us this morning.
Kioto guys, welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
You very much. Tom.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
Maybe we can start with you. I don't want to
make either of you feel old, but I'm all too
aware it is almost what thirty years since you guys
started playing music together. Is the rush that you get
from being on stage, whether it's djaying or as part
of a live performance, is the rush the same today
as it's always been.

Speaker 14 (40:11):
It's it's different, but like it's still there, you know,
it's still really exciting. It's like, in some ways it's
like it's quite intense because of that sense of like,
you know, we're probably near the near the twilight of
our crib and the dawn, so you're kind of conscious
that you need to kind of, you know, really kind
of savor these moments. You know, I guess we've got
a little bit more experience and they haven't got that

(40:33):
kind of that you know, first night nerve stuff is
probably a little less intense to me than it used
to be.

Speaker 15 (40:38):
But yeah, no, it's always really exciting.

Speaker 14 (40:40):
It's always sort of trying to come to a new
space and assess the vibe and try to make the
right decisions in the heat of the moment.

Speaker 15 (40:46):
That's still as complicated as ever been.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
You know, Am I right in thinking that you guys
have supposedly retired three times? I don't believe the rumors.

Speaker 16 (40:56):
It was to do with the it was to do
with the live shows, and we called it. We called
it a day with the live shows a couple of
times and then made very joyful comebacks. But the dejailing
has always been there since the beginning. It's always been
a kind of unchanging backbone of the whole group of
marketing experience.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
Yeah, yeah, that makes it. So what is it that
keeps you hanging on? What what keeps you in, you know,
savoring the kind of experience that you always have.

Speaker 14 (41:26):
I mean it's just, you know, like it's done for
It's just a really love to be able to do
for a living, you know, like it's like we still
love music, you know where music file files sort first
and foremost and so and then partly it's just that
sort of I think we grew up, like I said
one did, but for us in that kind of the
weekend was such a key part of our experience.

Speaker 7 (41:44):
You know.

Speaker 14 (41:44):
Peteng used to say welcome to the weekend on a Friday,
and that was just like what everything was about. And
I still feel like I live in that rhythm a bit.
You know, I can't quite imagine not having the odd
adventure on a weekend. So this this is a great
way of doing that and getting paid for as well.

Speaker 15 (41:58):
So it's perfect.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
It's amazing how much music has changed in the last
you know, in the last few decades. Obviously, with the
digital revolution, the tools that are available to artists and
musicians have massively expanded. How do you, guys reflect on
the music that you were making in those early years
with the kind of tools that are accessible for artists
these days, Well.

Speaker 16 (42:21):
It has completely changed, what you're saying, And like all things,
there are good bits and bad bits, you know. So
the idea that you can make a sort of professionally
rendered recording without out leaving your bedroom or actually without
leaving your bed in a lot of instances, is kind
of amazing and liberating. On the other hand, looking back
on some of the early music we made, restriction on

(42:41):
options is a very creative force, and I think making
music in the world where everything is unlimited choice is
quite challenging.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
You know.

Speaker 16 (42:51):
I watched my son do it, and we wrestle with
it a little bit now as well, though we haven't
quite got all the plugins that he has. But yeah,
it's not always more, is not always better?

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Can you explain that to me, explain the restrictions sometimes
being creatively beneficial thing.

Speaker 16 (43:08):
Well, like you take out the river for example, we're
defining tune for us. So that happened because we'd gone
off to the middle of nowhere to get some piece
and quiet to write a few tunes to promote some
London parties. And we went down the shop to buy
some beers and potato waffles, which was our kind of
daily Russian, and on the counter was a CD that

(43:29):
was Sounds of the fifties Americana, and we threw that
in the heap on the on the sort of off
chance there might be some samples on there, and they
had this song by Patty Page called Old Cape cod
really lovely tune, really nice cards. I had my trombone
with me because I was still making a living at
the time from playing jazzkig, so I needed to practice,
so we copied the cords. I was practicing the trombone, thought, oh,

(43:51):
you know, that sounds quite nice. How can we remember
that we had no microphone, but there were some speakers
in the cottage and if you flip the wires on
the speaker, it becomes a microphone. So we take those two.
A guitar lead managed to record the trombone and then
on the sample at the time computer at that point,
so you have a tiny amount of memories. You can
only only use little snippets of the vocal, so you've

(44:12):
got celloitate microphones, snippets of vocal, two string noises to
choose from, on the synthesizer, on one bass sound. The
whole thing's done in forty five minutes, and so I
think it means that you focus on the idea rather
than the sounds, rather than getting obsessed with the sounds
when you haven't got a great idea.

Speaker 3 (44:28):
It's the it's the classic Keith Jarrett Coln concert dichotomy.
I'm not sure if you guys are familiar with that story,
but Keith Jarrett, playing improvisational jazz on a piano, played
perhaps his greatest ever gig on a piano that wasn't
tuned properly and the top keys and the low keys
had to be absolutely smashed to get any noise out

(44:49):
of it. And consequently, by having to think outside the square,
it kind of sparked a creativity that might not have
otherwise been sparked, which is amazing. Yeah, that is quite
remarkable that the human creativity can work in that way.
Do you think that that electronic music and that dance
music is particularly susceptible to AI and the changes that

(45:13):
that technology is going to mean for our societies.

Speaker 15 (45:18):
I think, to some extent it might be.

Speaker 14 (45:19):
But I also think that sort of you know, great
dance music, like any form of music, will always out,
you know, the stuff that really deserves to be that
sounds distinct.

Speaker 15 (45:28):
And brilliant, Like, you know, AI is not going to.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Take the half punk.

Speaker 14 (45:31):
You know that A is probably not going to create
ology either, like these kind of really unusual collisions of sound.
I still think that'll be fine, But yeah, there probably
is a kind of dirge of wish wash kind of
you know, cocktail lounges dance music at one nineteen beats
a minute that AI is going to knock out pretty successfully.

Speaker 15 (45:48):
But now that's going to change the world.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Yeah, at least there's like a frision or a magic
that maybe still comes from the human element or the types.
At the very least you're listen to Newstalks, did the
Jack Taim speaking with Tom and Andy who makeup Groove
Our Mader The March shows How important are collaborations for

(46:10):
you guys from a creative perspective in particular, how has
that helped to maintain the magic that you get from
creating music.

Speaker 16 (46:20):
I think it's been been critical, you know, I mean
the and just an amazing privilege to spend time, you know,
in studios sometimes tour buses on stage with people like
Candy Staton, Richie Richie Haven's, Nana Cherry and a whole
host of other people, and you know, there's just something
about that. It's just such an exciting moment when you're

(46:41):
making music and you and you come up with with
with a lovely kind of sonic pad, and then you
send that off to someone, or you work with someone
in the studio and guide them a little bit and
you and you get a load of vocal ideas, and
in amongst it all, I think what we've always been
quite good at is having the antennae to say that
bit there, and that moment where you hear the bit

(47:03):
in the vocal with those particular chord changes and just
the hairs go up on the back of your neck
and you build it all around that. You know, that's
that's a magical thing. So getting that input from people
of that caliber to work with has been amazing.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
Is it just a case of trusting your gap?

Speaker 2 (47:21):
What else is there?

Speaker 3 (47:22):
Really?

Speaker 16 (47:22):
I mean, it's like either you feel it or you
don't feel I think one of the lovely things about
Tom and I work it together so long is that
it will be completely unspoken and we're working on a
tune and it's gone a bit too far my way
or Tom's way, and we won't even have to say
it directly, but there'll be a mainly unspoken exchange that

(47:45):
goes on there until eventually it ends up in the
groove Armada lane. It's a pretty wide lane, but it's
also it's a very distinctive blend of where both of
us are happy.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
How do you distinguish between each of those respective ways
your weigh and Tom's way?

Speaker 16 (48:02):
These are things that you just can't really put into words,
you know, But but you know when whenever we go
into these situations, like I'm already knowing what Tom's feeling
about it, and the same will be true the other
way around. And it's these unspoken trade offs, I think,
which mean that despite having wildly eclectic styles across the albums,

(48:23):
there's something about it all, which says groove Im.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
Tom, You're trying to be a CBT therapist, right to
tell us about that?

Speaker 14 (48:31):
Well, yeah, I'm doing I'm practicing as a CBT therapist now,
so well I'm more of a counselor now. But I
work at a university in London called King's College London,
so I do that, yeah, three days a week and
it works really well. Actually it's like I just came
back from work today and it was really lovely day
actually what with students and had some really interesting conversations

(48:52):
and then but they're really supportive of me, and you know,
like when I tell them I'm going off to Australian
New Zealand.

Speaker 15 (48:58):
To do some dates, they're always really behind it. So
it's that perfect.

Speaker 14 (49:01):
But it's been a really lovely thing to do, and
I particularly love this population now.

Speaker 15 (49:06):
Originally in the NHS, you.

Speaker 14 (49:08):
Know, the National Health Service, which was which was good,
but I started doing time then during the pandemic so
it was kind of pretty stressful for lots of different reasons.
But now I'm sort of you know, working with students,
a really interesting group of people, and no one got
any clue what I do for a side hustle.

Speaker 15 (49:24):
It's really nice.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
Yeah, what was the attraction about about CBT therapy in particular,
because it seems, I mean, it seems like a fascinating
thing to be involved with.

Speaker 14 (49:35):
Yeah, I mean there's there's you know, like I think
I struggled with my mental health. I was quite depressed
about fifteen years ago, and I think at that time
there wasn't the kind of conversations going on about about
mental health, particularly in the music industry. There are now,
and I really think they're great, and people are much
more open about talking about that.

Speaker 15 (49:54):
So I I am just personally, CBT was quite effective
for me.

Speaker 7 (49:57):
You know.

Speaker 14 (49:58):
It's about kind of essentially saying that your thoughts or
opinions they're not facts, you know, in finding more adaptive,
healthy way to relate to your thoughts, you know.

Speaker 15 (50:07):
And I found that was really useful for me.

Speaker 14 (50:10):
Actually these days I do a bit more than just CBT,
but it.

Speaker 15 (50:13):
Really spoke to me and it was usually helpful for me.

Speaker 14 (50:17):
Luckily, I've been really good since then, you know, and
actually a lot of techniques I've taken from that are
really helpful when I'm out on the road and I'm
under probably a bit more stress and I would be normally.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Yeah, oh that's fantastic. And Andy, we've seen you with
mister Clarkson and hopefully when you're in New Zealand you
might even have a bit of an opportunity to tour
around here. But tell us about your involvement with regenerative farming,
because yeah, I know that's an area that many of
our listeners are increasingly interested and it's quite remarkable.

Speaker 16 (50:49):
Yeah, I mean it started on the way back from
a gig when I read an article about the environmental
consequences of food production. I hadn't thought about it much
of the time, but it had a line in there
which said, if you don't like the system, don't depend
on it.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
So I began and all this.

Speaker 16 (51:03):
You know, coming in cold of a plant of the
seed in my life, trying to grow some vegetables for
the family, and you can only really describe it as
a spectacular sized rabbit hole. That led to me selling
my publishing rights to finance a farm in France, getting
a very humbling lesson in how hard it is to
be a farm and the range of skills required, how
hard it is to replace a system that we've developed,

(51:26):
you know, for good reason originally, but a food production
based on chemistry the suppressors nature with one based on
biology that collaborates with nature. But also that when we
do do that, you know, the solutions to our health,
bio diversity, climate crisis they're all there. And having seen that,
it became a mission that I couldn't let go of.

(51:47):
So now in the UK, under the name Wild Farmed,
we have a business that works with one hundred and
fifty farmers and trying to get food from these farming
systems onto the high street so that every day people
can make these choices and feel empowered to do so.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Well, gentlemen, it is a real pleasure to speak. We
very much appreciate you giving us your time. Cannot wait
to have you in New Zealand. Thank you so much,
Tom and Andy.

Speaker 15 (52:10):
Thanks hello, Jach So you soon, catch you.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Soon, catch you very soon. In fact, Groove Armada are
in New Zealand for a four date tour, so they're
going to be at Gardens Music Festival in Auckland's Domain
next weekend. They're then going to Queenstown, christ Church and Wellington.
So all of the details for Groove Armada's shows are
going to be on the news Talks he'db website News
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Speaker 9 (53:40):
More in Natara, More in a Jet, and congratulations on
the birth of your baby. That's such lovely news. And
I hope you've got lots of good TV shows lined
up to keep you going through this late night early
morning sessions.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
Yeah. Yeah, we've already done a few bit of watching,
although my wife was concerned that he was less than
seventy two hours old and seemed to be watching an
awful amount of cricket. She thought relative to relative to
go on exactly exactly. Anyway, three shows that we might
be able to watch a stream at home over the
next few weeks. Let's start off with the show streaming

(54:13):
on Netflix. Tell us about Robert de Niro in Zero
Day Here.

Speaker 9 (54:18):
This is a big new political thriller series that's just
come to Netflix, and it stars Robert de Niro in
his first major TV role, and he's going straight to
the top. He's playing an American president who is hauled
out of retirement after a major cyber attack on America
leads to thousands of deaths and the country is thrown
into chaos. And Robert De Niro's character has given these

(54:42):
huge powers to lead the investigation into what happened. But
the deeper he digs, the more lies and cover up
he finds, and the question comes is he actually the
right man for the job or is he being set
up to fail? You know, who can he trust as
America falls apart in front of him? Now, this series
was made before Trump became president again, but there's no

(55:04):
doubt that it does feel quite timely in terms of
misinformation and people not trusting the government and conspiracy theories.
But I don't want to overeg it. This is very
much a bingeable Netflix conspiracy thriller. Probably a lot more
talking in this than it is a big action, fast
paced drama. You know, it is a bit formulaic, a

(55:25):
bit predictable, but I think there's more than enough happen
here to keep you watching for all six episodes. Denero
is great and surrounded by actors like Jesse Plemons, Angela Bassett,
Joan Allen, Connie Britton is an amazing cast in that
you know, it's a blockbuster kind of conspiracy thriller and
you won't have to think too hard about it. It's
great for a weekend watch.

Speaker 3 (55:46):
Nice. Okay, cool, that sounds really good. That's Zero Day.
That's on Netflix, starring Robert de Niro. Next up on
Disney Plus tell Us about a Thousand Blows.

Speaker 9 (55:56):
This is a new historical drama about boxing and it's
been created by Stephen Knight, who made the show Peaky Blinders.
So if you love the sense of time and place
that peaky his hands mixed in with some gritty, colorful drama,
then this is the show for you. It's set in
London in the East End in the eighteen eighties, and

(56:16):
it centers around an illegal boxing ring in the back
of a pub and walks to young friends who have
just arrived that day from Jamaica and they get pulled
into this underground boxing world where there are no rules
and everyone is just trying to survive, and so you
see the city through their eyes. But there's a lot
going on in this show. You've also got this all

(56:36):
female bunch of pickpockets who work the town, and you've
got the owner of the pub, a guy called Henry Sugar,
who is a bare knuckle boxing champion. He's a pretty
terrifying kind of guy and played by Stephen Graham, who
never does a bad TV show in my opinion. So
this show grabbed me right from the start. I came
to this thinking, you know, boxing drama. I don't know

(56:57):
about this, but it pulled me in straightaway. Beautiful costumes,
big energy, intriguing characters. It's inspired by real life people
and experiences, and then just kind of takes that and
runs with it. The boxing scenes can get quite brutal,
but there's just so much else here going on to
love as well.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
Oh fantastic. Okay, that's a thousand blows from the maker
of Peaky Blinders. So that's on Disney Plus. And finally,
this is the very controversial new music behind White Lotus.
White Lotus in the first two seasons had that amazing

(57:36):
theme song that was kind of just a little bit
like unsettling or off putting. There was something about it,
just some little kind of chordal difference that made things
there's a little bit different and kind of distinguished it
from lots of shows. So anyway, White Lotus season three
has a new theme song and a new location. It's
out streaming on Neon now tell us about it.

Speaker 9 (57:57):
Yeah, a lot of people sort of split about the
new theme song, whether you know, they were sort of
expecting that offset version but then got this very new
quite di one.

Speaker 7 (58:07):
But yeah.

Speaker 9 (58:07):
This is the third season of HBO's The White Lotus,
which is a dark satire. It's been created and written
by Mike White, who has always been very interested in
the intricacies and layers of human behavior. And each season
of The White Lotus is set in a five star
luxury resort. This season it's in Thailand, and it's about
a group of wealthy people who stay at the hotel

(58:30):
and the staff who have to cater to their every
whim and it kind of skewers all the terrible behavior
of the rich and the privileged and the power and
class systems that it's all built on. And every season
starts with a murder, and then we go back in
time and try and work out which one of these
characters has been murdered and why, And they're all pretty awful,

(58:52):
but it's a brilliant drama. I must admit I don't
always know what's going on in The White Lotus. I
kind of go along for the ride a lot of
the time, but it's very sharp, very clever and beautifully
made as well. And this season, New Zealand actor Wilgana
O'Reilly is starring in the show, which is huge to
be part of such an award winning show with this
big international cast and she was fantastic in the first episode.

(59:13):
So I love White Lotus. It said's so great to.

Speaker 12 (59:15):
Have it back.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
Yeah, yeah, I really cannot wait to watch that. Thank
you so much, Tara. Those shows for you once again.
Zero Day is on Netflix, A Thousand Blows is on
Disney Plus and White Lotus season three is streaming now
on Neon. It has just gone ten thirty.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack Team
on News Talks.

Speaker 17 (59:41):
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Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Ah watch. I was there. If there was a weekend
not to be able to go to a music festival,
this is probably it for me, unfortunately, but I'm missing
out because it is the biggest party in Australasia. Electric
av kicked off in the three Auto Tuhi christ Church yesterday.
It's celebrating its tenth year and tens of thousands of

(01:00:24):
people came together in the rain at Hackley Park yesterday
with the same number expected today for day two. And
when we say big, we mean big. At Electric AV
they've got about sixty acts, five stages. It's like a
seventeen hour music marathon. And some of the names they
have attracted to Electric Avenue this year, My goodness, you
got the Prodigy, Chasing Status, Empire of the Sun, lab Tas, Shultana,

(01:00:47):
shape Shifter and Wilkinson amongst some of the big names
including that included in that lineup these guys. Of course,
the coops are playing there. Not bad quickview fun facts
for Electric AaB view. They've got one hundred and eighty
thousand square meters for the Sight Era with those five stages,

(01:01:08):
that's about twenty rugby pictures, six hundred porn loos in action,
more than five k's of fencing. They've spent four hundred
grand on security, five million dollars on the artist fees
and there are two hundred and thirty crew working Electric
AV this weekend. Anyway, before midday, we're going to take
your live to Electric Avenue and christ Chris Schultz is
there for the weekend is partying along. He texted us

(01:01:30):
to say that yesterday alone he did thirty thousand steps
at Electric AV, so he's hopefully had a bit of
time to recharge for day two. Before eleven o'clock on
news doorg z'db though, we will be sharing with you
some tips for bredy monarch butterflies in your backyard, and
for everyone enjoying the moshpit at Electric AV. Doctor Brian
Betty is here with his top tips on recovering from

(01:01:52):
sprained ankles. Next up, though, our texperts in that's twenty
five to eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the MC asking Breakfast.

Speaker 18 (01:02:02):
The troubles in New Zealand have been having played out
in number form yesterday as a half years old release,
profits down eighteen percent to one hundred and six million
in New Zealand's tub Executive Greek four and isbek whe
this's what's your biggest problem? The engines or the new
planes you aren't getting?

Speaker 12 (01:02:15):
Primarily, I would say the engines firs stuck. We're heading
into a period mic where we're going to have eleven
of our aircraft done available, it's going to be about
seven thousand seats a day. We have to cover that
by bringing in leased aircraft because we just cannot get
enough engines out of rolls.

Speaker 18 (01:02:33):
Royce and Crawdon went back Monday from six am the
mic asking Breakfast with the rain driver bela news talk ZB.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
Well, the US government had been investigating how crypto currencies
were traded, but the new president has meant for some
big changes on the crypto front in the US. Our
expert Paul Stenhouse is here with the details. He's a
big crypto guy at the best of times. But yeah, well,
I mean, if only you had been a big crypto guy, right,
because it's a whole lot more today than it was

(01:03:04):
three months ago.

Speaker 13 (01:03:06):
I mean I did I did make a little bit
of money out.

Speaker 3 (01:03:12):
Did you have a mean coin or did you just
go with bitcoin?

Speaker 6 (01:03:14):
No?

Speaker 13 (01:03:15):
Just bitcoin. I was just scared to do the others.
But I do know people who have made like six
figures bitcoin.

Speaker 11 (01:03:20):
Yeah, it's pretty.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
Incredible, well like five grand don't laugh, I mean that's impressive. Yeah,
probably a few people have lost money as well. To speak, Paul,
but you don't hear about these stories anyway. Anyway.

Speaker 13 (01:03:35):
No, So the people used typically is called Coinbase, and
Coinbase was the target of the SEC's investigations as the
sort of biggest player, and the SEC was sort of
looking at the crypto market and saying, this looks a
lot like stocks, this looks a lot like bonds, and
those types of things typically need to be registered with

(01:03:57):
the FBC. There are very strict rules and regulations about
how you sell them, how you don't lock up periods,
about information and all sorts of things. And they went
pretty similar. And so there was this investigation taking place,
and now with President Trump, it seems that that has disappeared.
Jack the Coinbase CEO, said that the SEC says that

(01:04:20):
they're going to fully dismiss its investigation. No penalties are
applying to it, and it's basically case closed. Here's one
thing that's interesting to note. Though Coinbase gave seventy five
million dollars to pro crypto packs, they made a seven
figure donation to Trump's inaugural committee, and the CEO gave
about one point three million dollars in personal contributions.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
Sure they're not those things aren't related at all, totally
independent series of fact. Speaking of the US government and
the big changes that are underway. Despite President Trump's close
relationship with Elon Muski La Musk of course, being the
founder of Tesla, the US government is turning off its
EV charges.

Speaker 13 (01:05:02):
Yeah, maybe it's because they don't have enough Tesla's and
they've got other cars and who knows. But there's a
government branch called the General Services Administration that's sort of
like the ones who run all the facilities of the government,
and they are now starting to shut down turn off
all of the EV charges they had started to put
in because Biden was on a mission to basically try

(01:05:24):
to get over half a majority of the six hundred
and fifty thousand federal vehicles to be evs. And of
course if you have evs, you need charges, you need infrastructure.
They have basically now said that it is quote not
mission critical to be spending time, effort, money on these charges.
So instead of just turning them off or letting them

(01:05:46):
break and not fix them, they're actually working to remove
those exact things they had already started putting them in.
They were talking about sort of eight thousand plugs that
were as across the federal government, and they've already started
to buy EV's Jack, they've already started to buy fifty
eight thousand as of March last year.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
The late the number was, so.

Speaker 13 (01:06:08):
What happens to the cars that they've audited?

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:06:11):
Are they going to be sold? Are they going to
be put into storage? It seems like a little bit
of a waste.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, a lot of changes on that
front at the moment. It's hard to keep up, so
thank you for bringing those to our attention. Paul, Paul
Stenhouse our texpert. There in a couple of minutes, doctor
Brian Betti's in with his tips on recovering from sprained
ankles and what distinguishes a sprained ankle from other injuries
you might have in that department eighteen to eleven on
Newstalk ZEDB.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
A little bit of way to kick off your weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
Then with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack, taym and Vpuard
dot co dot nz for high quality supplements used talk ZEDB.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
Thank you very much for the name suggestions this morning.
Congratulations Jack, Special baby boy. Call him John. My husband
was John. Whenever we had an argument, he would always say,
remember remember John is a gift from God, after all,
That's the meaning of the name. Well, you don't need
to tell me, Jill. After all, Jack means John. John
is my dad. John is also my grandad, and both

(01:07:07):
of them love to remind me that John means gift
of God, gift from God. Gift of God. Yeah, gift
from God. I think you're right on that oneety two.
If you want to send us a message, Doctor Brian
Betty is here with us this morning. Killed de Brian.

Speaker 19 (01:07:21):
Oh, cure ob Jack, and congratulations.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
Thank you. I was saying earlier. You know, I'm fortunate
in life not to actually have heaps of interactions with
the health system at the stage of life, you know,
And so this is one of the one of the
bigger ones I've had this week. And you know, I
know the system is under huge pressure at the moment,
but my goodness, it only underscored the kind of respect
I have for your colleagues, the nurses, the midwives, the doctors.

(01:07:45):
That is such a good job.

Speaker 19 (01:07:47):
Yeah, yeah, look, I think we've you know, I agree
we're under pressure, but we actually have fundamentally a very
good health system when it's needed.

Speaker 5 (01:07:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:07:55):
Yeah, that's one of the things that we sometimes do. Forget.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
Yeah, I mean I would say, I had a really
positive experience of the health of the Earthier system. Not
to say, you know, like not to say, you know,
everything was perfect, all the kind of facilities that they
had available to the perfect or anything like that, but
I just I thought that did such a good job.
And my goodness, Like I you know, I knew that
we had lots lots of migrant people working in the
health care space, but my gosh, it was the people

(01:08:22):
that was like, you know, it was like being in
the United Nations. It was amazing. Yeah, and it really
and again yeah, I felt we felt so cared for
and yeah, it was actually just great to see.

Speaker 19 (01:08:32):
So it's really fantastic to hear.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (01:08:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
Anyway, this morning, we're focusing on sprained ankles, and they
are one of the most common injuries that I'm sure
you see. What what is a sprained ankle?

Speaker 19 (01:08:44):
Yeah, look, so look, it's an injury that occurs when
you roll or turn your ankle in an awkward way. Now,
the commonest injury we see is we're foot turned inwards
and and it strains the outside of the ankle, and
we call that an aversion inversion injury, and it damages
the structures on the outside of the ankle. Now, the

(01:09:05):
injury itself and you turn the ankle causes strains or
tears in what we call the ligaments with the little
fibrous ropes that hold the ankle together or tendons, which
are again little fibrous sort of ropes that attach muscle
two bone, so they staylize the ankle and they fold
it in place. So when you when you roll the ankle,

(01:09:26):
they get strained or they can tear, and it causes
sometimes quite a bit of problem.

Speaker 3 (01:09:33):
Yeah, I mean speak from personal experience here. Yeah, they
can be they can be really really rough. So what
are the risks of a sprained ankle and the main
symptoms obviously a bit.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Of swilling, yeah, look, look, looks.

Speaker 19 (01:09:46):
Obviously big risk is often sport, so rugby, soccer, hockey, tennis.
That's where you get these rolled ankles. You know, someone
in the tackle, they go over on the ankle and
they have to limp off the field. So obviously sport
is a big risk factor, but there's a couple of
other hidden ones. So often walking on uneven surfaces, if
you're not fit, you're at a greater risk of a

(01:10:07):
sprained ankle. Wearing shoes that don't quite fit that can
give you a risk, and if you land awkwardly, if
you jump off a step or do something like that
will actually cause it. And the other one, which is
quite interesting is if you've had a previous sprained ankle,
you are more at risk of another sprained ankle of
caurim because it does weaken the joints slightly. So it's
just something to be aware of now. As you said,

(01:10:30):
the big, big symptom is pain, pain straight away after
your roll the ankle, and that's how people can plan on.
Often that's really painful to walk on the ankle, and
they'll notice them swelling often on the outside of the
ankle and bruising starting to develop, and it's very very
painful to touch. So that restricted movies sometimes. The other

(01:10:50):
thing that's quite interesting that people describe is a bit
of a popping sound or a sensation of popping when
they do it, and that's quite common as well.

Speaker 3 (01:10:59):
Yeah. I had a really rough sprained ankle about eighteen on,
probably about a year ago. Actually I am playing football.
I made a heroic tackle, of course, but it was funny.
It was just just one of those things where I
kind of came into contact with the other player, and
I could tell, like I could tell my ankle was
smashed before I hit the ground, you know, like you ye,

(01:11:24):
So how do you treat them?

Speaker 19 (01:11:26):
Yeah? Look, the immediate treatment is something called rice r C. Now,
that is rest, So you need to stay off the
ankle for the first forty eight hours. Ice is really
really important because ice reduces are swelling. So generally we
advise getting some ice onto the sore part of the
ankle for about twenty minutes every two hours, and you

(01:11:48):
do that over a two day period. Now, you can
use p's out of a freezer, it's fine, a pack
of peas, an ice pack, whatever you got, just slap
it on for twenty minutes for a couple of hours.
Bandage around the ankle is really good because that compresses
it because what you're trying to do is stop swelling
in the ankle and to elevate and stay off it,
keep the ankle up. So those four things are really

(01:12:08):
really important. Plus you can use some paracetamol or panel
just for the pain. Now, look, if it's generally, if
it's not set or settling in the next fourt out hours,
generally you need to see your doctor. We may order
an X ray because sometimes you can get small fractures
off the bone on the outside of the ankle. We
call those abulsion fractures or something more significant. And sometimes

(01:12:32):
we'll get obviously a physio involved because they can do
exercises to strengthen the ankle, mobilize the ankle, and actually
help with pain with some of the techniques they use. Now,
be realistic. It takes up to six weeks to heal,
so sometimes it can go on quite a long time,
and you need to be realistic and the only other
thing to know. If it's very severe, we may use

(01:12:55):
what's called a moon boot, which is like a plastic
cast that you can take off and on means you
can walk a little bit, but keeps the ankle sort
of in position and sort of acts like a cast
and helps with the swelling and pain.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
And what about prevention? How do we stop getting a
sprain nkele in the first place?

Speaker 19 (01:13:12):
Don't play rugby or soccer. Yeah, look really important before
you play sport. Warm up. Okay, we know that actually
reduces the risk of injury. Gooden shoes are important and yeah,
you've actually mentioned stiletto so high heels are actually a
risk for rolling the ankle, and we do see that.

(01:13:34):
It looks staying fit and practicing balance and exercises so
often as you get older, things like tye chen that
are really really important because actually strengthen the ankle and
they help with balance and that can reduce the risk
of spraining or turned ankles. So yeah, there's a couple
of basic things you can do to try and prevent them.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
Yeah, very good. Hey, thanks so much, Brian. We will
catch you again in a couple of weeks. Stop to
Brian Betty there with his tips for us. It's nine
to eleven. We're in the garden next on New Storks.

Speaker 1 (01:14:00):
He'd be gunning with summer at steel Shaft where it's
fall about the accessories to.

Speaker 3 (01:14:05):
Eleven on you be a man in the Gardener's Rude
Climb Past. He's here today the Rude.

Speaker 20 (01:14:12):
Cure Jack and also congratulations on behalf of Julie and myself.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
It's absolutely beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
Yeah, thank you. Well, yeah, well we've got a bit
of a theme on the show this morning. Breeding is
the theme and from the time Household to the Climb Past,
garden and monarch butterflies.

Speaker 20 (01:14:31):
Yeah, and how they get born and all that.

Speaker 5 (01:14:35):
I don't know.

Speaker 20 (01:14:36):
I had this feeling this might come up one day
and there it is. Yeah, you know, you know, we
all know about the monic butterflies and all that sort
of stuff, and they have all sorts of troubles when
they're in your garden. I mean, sometimes you have not
enough food. He's talking about food, you know what I mean.
And you know, we we have these things growing as

(01:14:58):
cutterpillars on swamp plants for instance, or a range of
different Asclepias species, which are actually quite beautiful. But when
they run out of food, that's when things get really tricky.
So a lot of people ask what do you do
when you haven't gotten a food? Well, first of all,
make sure you don't get too many caterpillars, you know,

(01:15:18):
avoid that sort of stuff, chick. And the way is
that the female monic butterflies lay egg after egg after
egg on one plant. And if you say, if a
plant maybe a meter or so tall, that could have
maybe only five caterpillars or six to make them go
to the end of their life.

Speaker 3 (01:15:36):
Side, because they are of course the hungry, hungry caterpillars.

Speaker 20 (01:15:41):
Well, you think you've got a son that's hungry. You
wait till he grows up as a boy.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
That works.

Speaker 20 (01:15:48):
But in order to avoid getting too many caterpillars on
your plants, for instance, I keep my caterpillars inside the
tunnel house so no female monarch can get in and
lay more eggs on that particular plant. You know, I
tell these females fly to Auckland and do something with
your life.

Speaker 7 (01:16:05):
Await anyway, So.

Speaker 20 (01:16:09):
That's those are the sort of things. And the other
thing that you can have you can have troubles with wasps.
So if you got your plants outside with the caterpillars
and you suddenly realize that the number of caterpillars are diminishing,
check for wasps flying by the German wasp, common wasp,
paper wasps on it. Because these guys are literally predators
that knivores, and they will eat and destroy your your caterpillar.

(01:16:33):
So be aware of that good trick. Here, grow them
under netting so the wasps can't gather them or put
them in big pot plants pots, and then you actually
change their position around the house and then the GPS
system of the wasp goes like, I know that was
a caterpillar here where the hell is it and they
can't find it. It takes weeks for them to find

(01:16:54):
it again.

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
Oh that's a very good tip. Oh thank you. Okay,
that's a year. That's really really good advice. Lovely.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
Yeah, yeah, yep, yep, that's the one.

Speaker 20 (01:17:03):
And then finally, and this is something that happens with
the of the chrystalist to a of a caterpillar to
a crystalist sometimes. Can you imagine that you have to
take your skin off and then hook your your caterpillar
toll if you like, into the silken bed. That is
a really that is circu to so lay in your garden.

Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
Wow, give us some of the stuff. Yeah, I knew it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
I knew it, and you know all about it though
you are.

Speaker 20 (01:17:34):
So you read it on the stuff on the air
website and you'll find out you can hang them back up, just.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
Like that superb excerpt catching your next week for compass
in the garden for us after eleven o'clock. Stuff you
didn't know you can compost. The compast that you can compast,
we'll see it with you. A few surprising little items
coming up very shortly. It's almost leaving a clock. Don't
use time on us Dogs be.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
Yeah Saturday mornings with Jack Tay keeping the conversation going
through the weekend with beepewt dot cot for high quality supplements,
used talk.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
A couple of big places to be this weekend all
around the country. Actually go Media Stadium five pm this evening.
You've got Auckland FC versus the Wellington Phoenix, the third
Kiwi Darby in the A League this year. Of course
Auckland f C won the first two.

Speaker 7 (01:18:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:18:50):
I'm obviously supporting orkand f C and this although I've
always loved the Phoenix, but I don't know, it does
feel like maybe this could be the Phoenix. Is this
could be the day. Anyway. We'll catch up with Jason
Pine before midday get his thoughts on that. The other
place to be is the three Hagley Park and christ
Day two of Electric Ev. The Prodigy playing this evening.

(01:19:10):
You've got lots of bands, Crungbin, the Kook's playing, Rude
of Mental, Fat Foot's drop. Anyway, We're going to take
your life to Hagley Park here and Chris Schultz about
how Electric Ev is being received there this afternoon. It
is Australasia's biggest two day festival. So yeah, man, that
is very much the place to be this weekend. Right
now eight minutes past eleven, Jack, and time to catch

(01:19:31):
up with our sustainability expert Kate Hall's with us this morning.
More do you know?

Speaker 8 (01:19:35):
Hello, good mind?

Speaker 6 (01:19:36):
Jack?

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
Hey, I think am I like a lot of people,
and that when I think of composting, I just think
about basic stuff, right Like I think about you know,
like clippings from the garden and maybe a bit of
you know, fruit and vegetable scraps, that kind of thing.
But this morning, you've got some interesting bits and pieces
that we can compost that many people will be surprised by.

Speaker 8 (01:20:00):
Yeah, I think pretty often thing has compost is just
like a food waste disposal system.

Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:20:05):
But you know, like anything that is natural and you
can break down, we can pretty much put it put
in our compost and it's really good for our compost.
And there is so much more that you know, we
can put in there that isn't just our corn cold
or banana appeal.

Speaker 3 (01:20:22):
Okay, I'm going to start with the most disgusting one
pet and human here.

Speaker 8 (01:20:27):
Yes, you can put it in there. I mean some
people like to pick it up in their washing lines
so that birds can then take it and use it.

Speaker 7 (01:20:35):
Who does that?

Speaker 8 (01:20:37):
Maybe it's just.

Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
Me, Oh.

Speaker 8 (01:20:44):
So lovely, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
First see, okay, okay, what I'm imagining is, you know,
the stuff that you get out of the drain, that's
what I think you're going and putting that up all
the neighbors appearing over the fence, going.

Speaker 8 (01:21:00):
To again now but human here and pit here. I mean,
it does take quite a while to down in your composture.
But you know, especially if you have one of those
big classic black bins, it's you're not going to see it.
You're going to just go through and yeah, keep breaking down.
So yeah, that's great. Even because I'm traveling around at

(01:21:20):
the moment, I try to kind of keep my hair
and keep stuff as much as possible. And then you know,
every every person's compost is different too, so I do
if you're composting someone else's space, just ask for permission
around what they want in their compost.

Speaker 20 (01:21:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21:36):
Yeah, that's so you can do nail clippings as well,
presumably because it's all kind of the same stuff, right,
But what else?

Speaker 8 (01:21:44):
So your cardboard, toilet paper rolls and air castles, that's
actually one that's not just that they can compost. It's
actually really important for your compost. So the majority of
people who come to me say, I tried composting, but
unfortunately it just got too stinky and wet and messy
and gross. And that's because they didn't put enough carbon

(01:22:05):
the brown stuff, dry stuff. Yeah, and the composts been
to balance out all of the green wet stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:22:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:22:12):
So yeah, ripping up to your toilet paper rolls. When
we hit a dog who was really good at wrapping
up toilet paper rolls and then we could put it
straight in the compost. So the smaller the better for
anything in the compost or breakdown faster. So that's another
great one. And also wine corks, so you know, just
the ones, not the ones that are not the plasticky

(01:22:33):
ones plastic, but again, chop them up and you can
put them in your compost.

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
Ah, very good. Okay, you can do paper towels and
napkins even if they're used, but there's probably some stuff
if they've been sucked in grease or that is something
like that, they're probably not going to work.

Speaker 8 (01:22:47):
Right, Yeah, definitely, I mean depending on kind of what
the grease is. You know, again, everyone has their own
different compost etiquettes for their personal composts them. But like
for us, if it's been used to wipe down some
oil or butter or whatever, we put that in our compost.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Sure, and it's fine.

Speaker 8 (01:23:07):
I mean, we try to use reusable paper tails and netkins,
but eminently sometimes you have them around, so yeah, you
can put those in. Sometimes there are different netkins that
do contain a bit of plastic, which you can often see.
You know, there's really really thick one that actually feel
like a reusable one, So that's probably the ideal because

(01:23:31):
you know you're popping a little bits of plastic through
your compost. And same with tea bags. We often think, oh,
you know, that's just paper, but only putting tea bags
in your compost, then there are microplastic free. So often
it will say on the box these days, or there's
some good lists online that you can usually find. Watch brands,
so don't put plastic in their tea bags.

Speaker 3 (01:23:53):
There's probably one of those ones. We assume that they
do have microplastics unless they're advertising that they don't, right.

Speaker 8 (01:23:58):
Yes, yeah, it's just like with your recycling, if you
don't know if it can be recycled put it in
the den, you know, you don't want to contaminate. Yeah,
the recycling then, or or a compost them.

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
Yeah. Nice. The toothpicks and bamboo skews. This is a
good one in barbecue season in particular, because often you
get those skewers and that you don't really want to
put them in the ben either, can again be a
bit dangerous.

Speaker 8 (01:24:17):
Yeah, totally spike he again, cut them up into as
many little pieces as you can bother with in your composts,
and that will help break them down.

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
I hadn't thought about this one. You can put old
cotton socks in the compost.

Speaker 8 (01:24:31):
Yes, yeah, so something is completely cotton or completely wool.
Sometimes they are lastain is you have to take off
kind of trimmings or even a little tag if it's
like a little tag on your cotton undies. Yeah, take
those bits off because they won't break down. There are
some alstones that are fully plant based, but they're very

(01:24:53):
rare so lately that it won't be so yeah, cut
those off. And then I mean you can cut your
undies or socks up and put them in the compast.
Or a fun experiment is just putting it straight in
and then you could do it up later and you
could see kind of how fast it's breaking down, because
it does break down, and you can see it just
kind of like slowly disappearing.

Speaker 3 (01:25:14):
Ah good, this is relevant for me. You can put
dead house plants.

Speaker 8 (01:25:20):
You can, I mean, there's some different species that ideally
shouldn't go in your compost because they can be invasive species.
The classic purple long hang ones that yeah, to put out.

Speaker 3 (01:25:36):
They are the only one I can get alive. So yeah, yeah, yeah,
basically I think it's actually going to be a good
it'll be a good sorter. Basically, if I can keep
it alive, then it's like species and it won't need
to go to go fast.

Speaker 19 (01:25:49):
Okay, good.

Speaker 8 (01:25:50):
Yeah, but yeah you can put yeah, you know, hat
flowers that you've been given a bunch of flowers or yeah,
little bits of house plant, dried leaves, anything like that.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
And pencil shavings you can check in there.

Speaker 14 (01:26:05):
Two.

Speaker 8 (01:26:05):
Yes, yep, you can again some pencils. You know, every
pencils made differently, that's predominantly. Yeah, it's just wood, and
you can put that in your compost too.

Speaker 3 (01:26:17):
Yeah, very nice. Okay, we'll put the full list up
on the news talks that'd be website, because it's one
of those things you just if you can build that
kind of consciousness into your routine when it comes to
you know, when it comes to your compost, and so
you're not automatically just putting things in the bin. Yeah
you can. Actually you can have a much richer compost presumably.

Speaker 8 (01:26:35):
Yeah, totally, because again you're not just putting food based,
which is kind of a lot of the same thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
a rich compost has a lot of different elements and yeah,
it all kind of flows together. It's just like everything
in nature. The more kind of diversity and differences there
are likely the more it will flourish.

Speaker 3 (01:26:56):
Oh nice, hey, thank you so much, Kate. We will
catchigin very soon, Kate. All you can find her of
course on the social media platforms by searching ethically Kate.
And like I say, all of those good things to
possible be on the news Talk's he'd be website. Just
so you know, before midday, we're going to get your
book picks for this weekend, and one of them is
this amazing new biography on Jackie Kennedy Nassas And I

(01:27:17):
know what you think you probably thinking, come on. We've
had the film, We've had, however, many books. She is
one of the most documented people of the twentieth century. Yep,
that's true. But the thing about this new biography is
there are a whole series of details and facts and
stories that had never been shared in public ever before.
So we're going to tell you about some of those,

(01:27:37):
and we'll save a couple as well, tell you about
the new book about Jackie Kennedy and assas before midday.
Right now, it has just gone seventeen minutes past eleven Travel.

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
With Windy Woo Tours Where the world is Yours.

Speaker 3 (01:27:49):
For now eighteen past eleven on News Talks V Travel
Correspondence Mike Yardley, and he's with us.

Speaker 7 (01:27:55):
Now, Hi, Mike, Good morning jack. Fantastic news about the baby.
And I'm particularly impressed your son has been introduced to
Champions Trophy cricket so early in his life. I hope
he becomes the nation's good luck charm for the next
few weeks.

Speaker 3 (01:28:10):
Well, yeah, this is It's funny you mentioned that, right,
because obviously we are a big cricketing family. Certainly my
side of the family are keen cricketing fans, and so
it's funny because we were at or Concentral Hospital and
then after you've been at Auckland Hospital you can be
discharged to Birthcare and Parnell, which is just on the
other side of the domain, if you know, the Central Auckland.

(01:28:31):
And so the thing about the domain is they have
lots of cricket pitches at this time of year. So
once once we had been discharged, so we watched the
Champions Trophy and then once we've been discharged, and the
nurser said, oh, I feel free to take him outside
for a bit of walk, get a little bit of
sunshine on him. I said, okay, And I'm pleased to
report that not only has he watched a Champions Trophy match,

(01:28:52):
he's also spent an hour in the domain watching a
bit of social cricket in person. So there you goots, Yes, exactly,
very much, grassroots, very much, grassroots. He's gone and watch
a bit of T twenty, but a social Tea twenty
on Thursday night. That was that was a bit of fun.

Speaker 16 (01:29:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:29:09):
Hey, anyway, don't rush, don't don't rush to get him
to watch the Crusaders anytime.

Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
At the moment, as far as I'm concerned. At the
very last Hey, we're focusing on Cannoby this morning though,
and the hinterland treats in the Hurunui district, and so
this is the sort of area in North Canterbury, kind
of inland a little bit. And you've been jet boating
on the Wyo River, Hagard.

Speaker 7 (01:29:32):
Was that absolutely superb jackets the first time I have
taken a blast down that magnificent braided river. So this
is the river that starts in Lewis, pass by the
Spencer Mountains actually and then just charges across the Hurnui landscape.
And in places that river, the rapids, man, they can

(01:29:53):
be quite frisky. And I had this driver Karen, he
was a wizard behind the wheel, even though he said
to me this is only my second day on the job,
which added a bit of a frizzon to the experience.
But it's such a scenic thrilling ride because you go
from narrow gorges to braided shallows. And last week when

(01:30:13):
I was there, it was just the most beautifully sunny day,
so that water it just shimmered like liquid jade. But
aside from the thrills and the spells, it is such
a novel advantage point to just soak up that landscape
and all of its sort of layered richness in the area.

Speaker 3 (01:30:31):
Yeah, the rock formations are pretty impressive.

Speaker 7 (01:30:33):
A they are really impressive. So just south of the
Wyo Fiery Bridge, which is that bridge leading you into
hand the springs the gorge, the Wyo Gorge, it has
these fascinating rock walls and the terraces particularly is where
I really got my geological Jolly's Jack Marble Point is

(01:30:54):
the highlight. So there are these limestone rock outcrops that
sort of tumble across the countryside and then rising up
from the river banks outcrops of red tinted crystallized limestone.
So back in the day, apparently it was sold as
Hemma marble. And then as you look at these rock terraces,
you can also see the Hope fault line, and beneath

(01:31:18):
that a fossil line imprinted in the rock, and that
has unearthed all manner of ancient marine fossils dating back
thirty million years when apparently the river was actually a beach.
So that was all quite enough to blow my mind.

Speaker 3 (01:31:34):
Yeah, yeah, that's amazing. Are the hot pools cranking and
hand mass springs at the moment or is it kind
of too hot?

Speaker 7 (01:31:42):
Curious you ask, Jack, because when I was there last
week the mercury was nudging thirty degrees, but there were
hundreds of people quite happy to sizzle themselves in that
piping hot water, which I thought was a bit weird.
But then again you've got the cold pools there as
well if you need to cool off, so twenty two
poles at that complex to hop scotch your way through.
Then you've got the water slides. It is such a

(01:32:04):
perennial people tractor, the thermal polls and spa, but I
reckon it's definitely best at night when the temperatures have dipped,
or even better when you've got a bit of dappled
snow on the mountain range. But it's just such a
runaway hits that complex.

Speaker 3 (01:32:22):
And tell us about your spa experience.

Speaker 7 (01:32:26):
Well, the spa at Hanma Springs is one of New
Zealand's busiest spas, so people go crazy there, put their
facials into have a feet retreat apparently as a big
thing Jacker feet retreat, or you can have the full
body of fear. So I was booked in for this
standard message right, a relaxation massage but as I chatted

(01:32:47):
to my therapist, to Sophie, who was fantastic, I started
listing off all of my various complaints and she switched
it up into a deep tissue recovery massage, which was
the most searing, transformative and most brutal body batting experience
I've ever in counter it. But I felt so liberated

(01:33:08):
an hour later and I just floated out of the
joints like a happy little cloud.

Speaker 3 (01:33:13):
Yeah, probably because you, But no, that does sound sounds
sounds good every once in a while. Sounds like a
bit of me too, So we would use some good spots.
What would be your recommendations for good kai in Haimna.

Speaker 7 (01:33:25):
Well, there is a place which is like a one
stop shop for you Jack Fudge Gelato, So yeah, it's
like a double dip fresh and premi fudge and gelato.
But for top notch, definitely dying At number thirty one

(01:33:45):
on the main street in Hannah, I tried the beetroot aranchini,
which was absolutely stuffed with an almond and cheese filling.
God there so good. The mains were dominated by locally
sourced meats, but definitely leave room for dessert. The warm,
sticky licorice pudding so good. And then the creative cocktail.

(01:34:08):
So I tried a mushroom sour, which is like a
modern take on a whisky sour, I know, and it's
infused with mushroom powder. So the idea is you get
like the earthy richness of the fungi with the classic
blend of whiskey lemon and a creamy egg white froth.
So it's savory and et centracy and it's really good.

Speaker 3 (01:34:30):
Yeah, wow, okay, yeah, I do you know, mushrooms are
one of the one of the few things I don't
like eating.

Speaker 7 (01:34:37):
Seriously, I thought you'd be a mushroom.

Speaker 3 (01:34:39):
Man mushrooms and just never have been. I'm always like,
why would you eat from us?

Speaker 9 (01:34:45):
You know?

Speaker 3 (01:34:46):
But then I suppose I like blue cheese, so I
don't know anyway, So yeah, I'm not sure I'm going
to leap at that option, but sounds that there'll be
some other creative little options for me. And if you
grow vineyards, what would be your recommendations for wineries in.

Speaker 7 (01:34:59):
Yes, indeed? Yeah, well the White Pit of Valley of course,
big wine country, so lots of little boutique vineyards. I'm
a big fan of George's Road Wines, particularly if you
like Sarah or Peno Gree or Rose. Everyone seems to
love Rose at this time of year. Another great winery
stop is tall Less once again, very small boutique vineyard

(01:35:19):
and data exceptional Rose. But I really like the Omahe
Road pen and Wa, So if you're having a week tasting,
add the pen and Wa to you to your list.
It's all cherries and raspberries and plums. It's just a
delicious pinot.

Speaker 3 (01:35:33):
Jack sounds fantastic. Hey, thank you. We will put all
of those tips for exploring the hinterland treats in the
hurda Nui district up on the Newstalks. He'd be, we
have son catch you next week Mite, Thank you. Jack.
Mikey Audley our travel correspondent there before midday on Newsborks
he'd be, will take your live to the O three,
just down the road from the Hurdanui Electric Avenue. Day

(01:35:55):
two and Australasia's biggest festival, drawing tens of thousands to
Hagley Park. Next up, though, we'll see what Jason Pie's
planning for us this afternoon on weekend Sport, ahead of
his beloved Phoenix taking on Auckland.

Speaker 2 (01:36:07):
DEFC Getting your weekends started.

Speaker 1 (01:36:14):
It's Saturday morning with Jack Team on News TALKSB.

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
Do you know I think it's like twenty years since
this album was released. Oh that makes me be old.
The reason I know is because I played trombone in
high school. And when I was in high school, my
trombone teacher always said trombone is the most diverse in instrument.
You can play it in the widest range of bands

(01:36:50):
and playing with the widest range of musical styles. And
I always thought, really, I was playing in orchestras and
stage bands and jazz bands and that kind of thing.
Absolutely love the trombone. But the year after I left
high school, Fat Freddies came out and I was like,
that's where I should have been playing trombone. I should
have been playing trombone and the up group. Anyway, the
reason we're playing you Fat Fridyes this morning is because

(01:37:10):
they are one of the many great acts playing an
electric av in christ Church Hadley Park this afternoon. Day
two will take you there very live, very shortly. Then
after mid day, Jason Pine is with us with Weekend Sport,
a big weekend of sport in the Big Game this
afternoon for your beloved Phoenix Piny.

Speaker 21 (01:37:27):
Indeed Colt A Jack. Yeah, look great to be here
in Auckland for Darby three point zero this afternoon. Good
day in prospect where the wives sell out in coming.
They've even i think managed to squeeze some more seats
out at at Go Media State in this afternoon.

Speaker 3 (01:37:40):
So well they've set up the little bank now the
grass Bank, which is fantastic.

Speaker 21 (01:37:44):
Yeah, so you can fit some more in there and
sell more tickets. Look, we're looking at twenty seven thousand
turning up. I mean in your wildest dream, would you've
imagined it?

Speaker 3 (01:37:52):
You know, yeah, yeah, it's just I mean, it is
just amazing to see, you know, to see see football
in the A League in New Zealand with this kind
of following, and obviously that you know, the ORG and
SEV nailed the promotions around the team have nailed the experience.
But yeah, yeah, the the winning hasn't hurt as.

Speaker 21 (01:38:08):
Well, absolutely, and you have to congratulate all parts of
that football club on and off the field for what
they've done. And you're right, it does help when you're winning.
But you know, they are very quickly engaged with a
huge number of supporters here.

Speaker 3 (01:38:20):
Yeah, I know, we get you know, we're trying to
build the whole Derby thing into an intense rivalry and
all of that. I mean, I've got to say I
love the Phoenix still. I mean, I'll be backing all
de seat this afternoon, but I absolutely love the Phoenix.
I do. And I reckon, I reckon. This could be,
this could go against the grain a little bit. Is
that crazy for me, madam? I'm just sleept deprived at
the moment. Well, I mean that could all. I mean,

(01:38:41):
both things can be true. I get the feeling that
it won't quite be the walkover that many would expect.
If they, if they, if you dropped in from out
of space and saw a team at the top of
the league by five points and another time in the numbers,
you say, okay, we'll walk second win the game. But
the Derby just adds an extra layer. Funny things happen
under pressure. You know, some players wilt, some players thrive

(01:39:04):
in the spotlight. You know, moments and micro moments are magnified.
It'll be it won't be a one v ten situation.
This is an outlier. This is a one off occasion
for momentum confidence all irrelevant this afternoon. Crusaders humbled last night.
It wasn't like they played terribly against the Chiefs. But

(01:39:26):
Clayton mcnaughan's team look really strong, don't they. Chiefs are good. Yeah,
Chiefs are good.

Speaker 21 (01:39:30):
And he won't get carried away because they were good
two years ago and last year made the Grand Final
both times, lost both times. Maybe you've got to lose
two to win one, Jack, I don't know, but they
have never beaten the Crusaders in the entire history of
the competition by as Biger margins last night twenty five
points and the twenty minutes from about minute fifty to
minutes seventeen just talk about putting the foot down and

(01:39:51):
the Chiefs looked every injured team that will go deep again.
So yeah, I mean for the Crusaders, obviously they got
the win last weekend against the Hurricanes. They'll dust themselves
off and get ready to go again. But yeah, Super
Rugby continues to deliver under the roof tonight and Duneedan
Highland is blue? Is that said to be another breaker?

Speaker 3 (01:40:07):
Yeah, we'll be. What's on the show this We're.

Speaker 21 (01:40:09):
Just after midday A Louis Vastrata and Kellen Elliott from
what we've seen hopping into the studio for a chat.

Speaker 3 (01:40:14):
So we'll do the like I've just said, so good.

Speaker 21 (01:40:18):
Yeah, player, what a player he is, Yes, he's he's
going to be on to us. We'll talk rugby after
one and Zoey Hobbs on the show after two o'clock
as well. Looking forward to chatting to our fastest ever
woman over one hundred minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:40:30):
Yeah, superb. Oh, that'll be so good. Looking forward to
this afternoon, sir, Thanks Jack. Jason Pine behind the mic
with Weekend Sport. He will be with us right after
the midday news. Before midday, we're going to take you
to Electric ev and christ Church. Your book picks for
this weekend. If you're looking forward to a weekend on
the Couch Snakes.

Speaker 1 (01:40:46):
Saturday Morning with Jack Team fulk Show podcast on iHeartRadio
powered by News talks 'b.

Speaker 3 (01:40:53):
Twenty three to twelve on News talks, 'd be time
to get your book picks for this weekend. We've got
two non fiction reads and Katherine Rains our book reviewers
here with them for us Killer Katherine. Okay, let's begin
with this new book about Jackie Kennedy and now it's
called Jackie Public, Private Secret by Jay Randy Tarabelli.

Speaker 22 (01:41:12):
So, as you say, there's been a lot of biographies
written about Jackie, and this is the product of hundreds
of interviews that a timporarly conducted over thirty years, as
well as previously unresd material from the JFK library. And
so you get this really interesting perspective of her quite personal,
behind the scenes and not a bogger of biography that
really reviews world events from her perspective, but it all

(01:41:34):
studies the Kennedy presidency or those kind of things. But
you get this portrait of what feels like the more
elusive Jackie Kennedy and assis and her relationships with her
parents and siblings and step siblings and friends and colleagues
and all sorts of people. And it isn't told chronologically,
but it's interconnected and you get these moments, and so
this picture of Jackie in her life builds up like

(01:41:56):
that insights to her relationship with her father and her
very overbearing mother, and her relationship with her stepfather, and
there's this always this undercurrent of tension and competition with
her sister Lie and you know, talks about her marriage
to JFK and his assassination and her marriage to Aristola Analysis,
but also about her projects and her issues with feeling
safe and secure and how she rebuilt her life and

(01:42:18):
the publishing world and her editorial work and her relationships,
and then with her cancer diagnosis and the events and
her family. And she shows her as this very stubborn
and elitis woman, but also very kind and caring and
focused in her approach to life. And so it's not
this scholarly intellectual biography of her, but an interesting read
about her life all the same.

Speaker 3 (01:42:37):
Nice. Okay, that's Jackie Public Private Secret by Jay Randy
Tara Barelli. That's a great name, isn't it, Jay Randy.
Next up tell us about the Let Them Theory by
Mel Robbins.

Speaker 22 (01:42:51):
So I'm not usually a particularly massive self help book reader,
but this one kept appearing everywhere I looked. And the
start of this book talks about Mel Robinson. It focuses
on her and how she ended up in that self
help space in her podcast. And she was raised in
Michigan and attended doubt Mouth and went to Boston College
for law, and she worked practicing law and it's thirty one.

(01:43:14):
She decided that she hated that, and she hired a
life coach who actually told her that she'd make a
good life coach. But actually the story kind of skips
a little bit further and in her late thirties and
she's pregnant with her third child and her husband, Chris,
is laid off from his tech job, and he starts
this pizza restaurant chain, which fails, and they go into
this complete financial free form, and she begins drinking heavily

(01:43:35):
and taking medication, and at forty seven becomes a real
turning point for her. She receives a diagnosis of ADHD
and dyslexia, and this is how she kind of ends
up in this space. And the let Them theory focuses
on how you think about relationships and control and your
own personal perspective on things and how you want to
advance things. It's the first half of it is about

(01:43:56):
not trying to manage other people, and in the second
half she turns to this other concept from them to
let me and realizing that you cannot take control and
you take responsibility for.

Speaker 9 (01:44:06):
What happens next.

Speaker 22 (01:44:07):
And it's one of those self help books that either
resonates with you, or it doesn't. It doesn't have massively
earth shattering new information, but good reminder about real life
challenges and insights on how to navigate change and the
need for control, and reminds us that we're actually responsible
for our own success and failures and our happiness and sadness.
And you can't control other people's thoughts and feelings, but
you can.

Speaker 11 (01:44:27):
Control your own.

Speaker 22 (01:44:28):
And so, yeah, I found a very interesting perspective on
what she talks about.

Speaker 3 (01:44:32):
That's good. That brought you around to self help books.
Maybe or a few more.

Speaker 22 (01:44:36):
I don't know then I quite go that far, but
I did find this, and I listened to a couple
of her podcasts and things and the things she talks
to that's really interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:44:42):
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fair enough, No, it sounds good, it does. It sounds
really interesting. Thank you, Kasin. So that's the let Them
Theory by Mel Robbins and Catherine's first book, the one
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Speaker 3 (01:46:11):
Right here in part of the Sun and Walking on
a Dream. They were one of the day one acts
at Electric Avenue in christ Church. Hagley Park plays host
now to the biggest two day festival in all of
Australasia and Chris Schultz has the very difficult gig of
going along to Electric. I have thirty thousand steps on

(01:46:32):
day one Chris, that's very impressive. How are you feeling.

Speaker 23 (01:46:36):
Like I've been hit by a bus jack. I was
not prepared for what I went through yesterday. I thought
i'd stretched enough, I thought i'd drunk enough. I got
plenty of sleep, but nothing really prepares you for like
just a full festival day, you know, like running around
a massive site like that. Hagley Park is huge. It's

(01:46:57):
a really big place. They've got five stages set up
in there, and yeah, I honestly don't think I've been
to a festival of that scale since the days I
used to go to Coachella.

Speaker 2 (01:47:08):
Yeah, those kind of.

Speaker 23 (01:47:09):
Big overseas events. It really is something. The city is
maxed out. You can't get accommodation. There's cues for food
places all over time. You can barely get a flat
white at the moment. It's that busy down here.

Speaker 3 (01:47:24):
Oh it's great. I mean, christ is just thriving at
the moment, so you just love to see it. You
got five stages at Electric gave teens of thousands of attends.
Talk us through your experience of day one.

Speaker 23 (01:47:36):
Just pumping from the moment I got there. This is
thirty six thousand people on the site, So you're just
kind of running around trying to like not get that
feeling of fomo. You know, you want to catch everything
you want to see, so you know, I saw a
shape shifter playing with the christ Church Symphony Orchestra. They
sounded meaty and grunty, local lads in the hangar. Actually,

(01:47:59):
the biggest moment for me came in the evening, and
for a lot of people it came.

Speaker 3 (01:48:04):
With The Dudes.

Speaker 23 (01:48:04):
Now, the Dudes are a band that nearly fifty. They
turned fifty in a couple of years and their big
anthem is Bless that's about forty five years old. I
did not expect to see probably about twenty thousand people
crammed into a stage area to see them hanging off
their every word, going completely and utterly ballistic. It was

(01:48:26):
just one of those kind of special moments where the
sun was going down. I guess everyone had had a
couple of drinks, so Bliss felt like the right song
to plan that moment. But Peter Rulich could have not
even believe it. He was sort of grinning on stage
and at one point I think he said something like
this feels Shakespearean because you know, it was just so ridiculous.

(01:48:46):
He's a band, you know, at the age they are,
with the career they've had, suddenly having this.

Speaker 7 (01:48:52):
Maybe possibly the biggest moment they've ever had. Yeah.

Speaker 23 (01:48:58):
Electric, Electric is a great word for it.

Speaker 19 (01:49:01):
You know.

Speaker 23 (01:49:01):
It was a really well planned day that sort of
started with a bit of reggae, but then they moved
into some of the more summary acts. Tash Sultana as
an Australian busker who plays all her own instruments on stage.
She just kind of runs around doing the guitar and
the drums and was really well timed for a sort

(01:49:22):
of late afternoon set, and then it sort of moved
into the more dancing acts for the evening that the
drum and bass headliners Chasing Status put on a the
kind of pounding, huge firework display that you'd expect at
a festival of this scale. You know, you need someone
to close it out like that, and they did a
really good job at all.

Speaker 3 (01:49:41):
Yeah, and some amazing acts playing today. So you've got
the Prodigy top of the list, But run us through
what you're looking forward to today.

Speaker 23 (01:49:49):
Well, the Prodigy of the Big One. They were last
here in twenty nineteen and I saw them in Auckland
and that was the last show with Keith Flint. He
died just a couple of months later, so that is
going to be a special one. Apparently they do pay
tribute to him during a show, and the shows aras
Full On and Electric A, The Fat Freddy's in Lady six.
I think the local acts on my must see list today.

(01:50:14):
They're always great, especially in a festival atmosphere. I'm also
looking forward to seeing DJ Shadow. He's he made introducing
one of the great vinyl hip hop instrumental albums of
all time, and he always puts on a great show
with a really good visual display too, so he's definitely
on my list.

Speaker 10 (01:50:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:50:33):
Nice, and I mean it's going to be massive today,
even bigger than yesterday, presumably given give us some of
the acts that are playing today. Yeah, are you going
to do thirty thousand steps?

Speaker 11 (01:50:43):
Do you think.

Speaker 23 (01:50:45):
I'm going to rest up? Well, I've got a couple
of hours before this thing's kicks off. I'm gonna put
my feet up, I'm gonna have some lunch and shell
and yeah, there are scooters. I'm going to try and
get around with scooters. I got an Ober the other
day and the guy said it's his busiest day of
the year Electric Avenue. Oh yeah, and it's almost impossible
to get a taxi or an ober. But they've got
these scooters around the so I think I'm going to

(01:51:07):
log and download the AP for one of those and
try and get around using that.

Speaker 3 (01:51:11):
I think that's wise, Yeah, very wise. I always remember
my sister went to a big festival a couple of
years ago, and she was really looking forward to the
festival and to celebrate and to get ready for festival seasons.
She brought herself a brand new pair of Doc Martins.
And if there are any shoes you were going to
choose to wear to a festival where you're going to
be spending fourteen hours on your feet, I can tell

(01:51:32):
you right now that Doc Martins are not a good choice,
so long as you've got something a little bit more comfortable.

Speaker 23 (01:51:39):
There were a lot of Doc Martins yesterday.

Speaker 3 (01:51:41):
Well, if they're warning, it's not so bad. But if
there are a new pair of Doc Martins and the
leather is still a bit firm, yeah, not so much.
You'll be tending to those blisters and wounds for months afterwards.

Speaker 5 (01:51:53):
I reckon absolutely.

Speaker 3 (01:51:55):
Yeah, Hey, look a joy today, Chris really appreciate you.
You give us a call and yeah, we'll all be
enviously thinking of you and looking forward to hearing about
all the performances today, including the Prodigy Tonight Schultz in
christ Church for Electric av twenty twenty five, Australasia's biggest
two day festival. We'll pick one of those acts. How
about Crungbin. Crungbin playing today. They're friends of the show

(01:52:16):
We interviewed Crungbin, so they're playing today in christ Church.
We'll pick one of their tracks and play out in
a couple of minutes. Right now, it's nine to twelve
on news Talks.

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Speaker 3 (01:52:34):
I've got a bit of a decision on my hands
this afternoon, so I have season tickets to talk and
DEFC got on the badwagon nice and early. Me and
roumy our boy have been going along to all the games.
He's been absolutely loving it so far. But I don't know.
When our baby sons just five days old, do I
really want to be spending another couple of hours away

(01:52:54):
from home? It's a tough one. I think. I don't know.
Maybe I'll say to my wife this afternoon, you know,
it's in the we want to make sure that our
elder boy feels like he's included, feels like he's getting
plenty of attention.

Speaker 14 (01:53:07):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:53:07):
It's a bit of a tough transition. Maybe it's an
a interest for me to take them along to the
game this afternoon. I can try that. We'll see how
we go. Anyway. Thank you so much for all of
your lovely messages all throughout the morning and congratulations. I
really do appreciate it, and I'm sure I'll be boring
you with lots of baby spam and you know, updates
over the next few weeks and months as I go

(01:53:28):
through this kind of seminal life experience. For everything from
our show, you know where to go Newstalk zb dot
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Thanks to my wonderful producer Libby for doing the tough
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Jason Pine is going to count you down to the

(01:53:51):
Phoenix afc Kee Wee Dhabi in the A League this
afternoon when he kicks off weekend sport right after the
midday news. We're going to leave you though, with one
of the bands playing an Electric Avenue and christ Church
this afternoon. The band is crumbin this song as people everywhere.
I will see you next week.

Speaker 1 (01:56:36):
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