Full Show Podcast: 26 October 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Tam podcast
from News Talks at B.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
As the election he tough. It's Saturday Mornings.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
With Jacktam with bpewer dot co dot z for high
quality supplements News Talks b.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Calda, New Zealand. Good morning, Welcome to News Talks EDB.
Jack Tame with you broadcasting out of New York City
this morning, and my goodness, we have an extraordinary first
guest view. She is a woman who's lived an amazing life.
Her name is Sahi Hawkins. She was born in Addis
Ababa in Ethiopium. She was brought up in Australia and

(01:01):
she loved to dance. Not only did she love to dance,
she was a champion dancer. She went on to win
all manner of Latin dancing competitions, competing all around the world.
When one day Sahai Hawkins got a call. Now keep
in mind she was only sixteen years old. Just sixteen
years old. The Wiggles at that point had been around
and performing for more than twenty five years. They've been

(01:22):
around performing since before she was born, Sahai. They asked,
would you like to become the latest Yellow wiggle. She's
going to be with us after ten o'clock this morning.
Cannot wait for that conversation. Right now, it is eight
minutes past nine, Jack Team, and I'm riding this in
Central Park this morning. I'm right up in the northeast corner,

(01:42):
sitting on a bench by the Harlem Mere, the Harlem
Lake as it's known, about one hundred meters or so
from the apartment where I lived for the second half
of my twenties. It's funny, it's so familiar, the warm
evening air, people laid out with picnic mats, a guy
with a big plastic bin of turos, kids chasing each other, squealing, skylarking,

(02:08):
the sound of traffic crawling down Fifth that across the road,
steering down the length of Central Park is what I
think is my favorite obscure building in all of Manhattan.
The views from this thing would cost enough to make
an oligarch gulp. But it took until just a couple
of years ago for New York City to finally convert

(02:29):
this building from its previous use as a low security prison.
It must have had the best views of any prison
on the planet. I haven't been in New York for
two years now. When I was last year post COVID,
it honestly it felt a little bit dark.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Back in the day I used to be so blase
about safety. I felt more threatened in Central christ Church
late at night than I did in East Harlem. But
COVID changed that. You could sense that people were fearful
and untrusting. The good news is that it's better now.
It's better. It feels more like the New York I remember.

(03:13):
And so when I landed this week, I did my
usual thing. I got a coffee and a pastry. I
put in my headphones and I walked. It took me
a morning until I kind of had the rhythm of
the traffic, jaywalking with confidence and checking the right way
up the streets as I crossed. I rode the subway everywhere.

(03:36):
I mostly didn't need the map. It's amazing how you
can feed a kind of nostalgic for the gentle resistance
of a turnstyle bar, or for the lurching and the screaming,
the shuddering of a metal subway car staring dead eyed
through the windows into the black, even when a city

(03:57):
is familiar, Taking time away and then coming in and
visiting with fresh eyes gives you a perspective you don't
have when you're immersed in it, when you're living it.
And look, I'm realistic enough to accept it probably means
you look at things with rose tinted glasses. But there
is a reason that all of my old friends here

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have moved out into the suburbs. And the thing that
has surprised me most over the last couple of days
is that I think I feel it too. It's not
that I'm tired of New York. It's just that I'm
not sure I have the energy and the patience for
the hustle, for the horns, for the concrete, and for

(04:42):
the little studio apartments that cost four thousand dollars a month.
One thing doesn't change. Though New York is the best
city in the world. New York is the city, and
for two simple reasons I reckon Number one diversity. There
cannot be a city on the face of this earth
with a greater spread and mix of cultures, the cities, languages,

(05:07):
and socioeconomic extremes. The thing that everyone has in common
is that everyone is different, and the result of that
diversity is the greatest concentration of interesting food, music, and
art on the planet. And the other reason I think
it is the great city is public space. Because almost

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everyone lives in small spaces, Everything public is always busy,
and every public space is used, and there's a collective experience,
whether people are conscious of it or not. It means
that the tiny, tiny little strip of land on the
corner of Madison in one hundred and tenth Street, just

(05:49):
around the corner from my old apartment, has been converted
into a community garden. It means the benches alongside the
triangle of green at Broadway in seventy second are always
filled with people just watching the world go by. And
it means here tonight, on a random autumn evening, as
Central Parks leaves turn gold and the sun drops below

(06:12):
the west side, there are hundreds of people out enjoying
the moment, socializing, playing, eating, relaxing. It feels vital, It
feels alive. It even feels a little bit magical. Jack Team,
thirteen minutes past nine on your Saturday morning. You know,
I said last week, I think that it felt like

(06:34):
Hayley's comet. Seeing the black Caps performing as they were
in India, winning that first test was an extraordinary thing
to behold and yet I don't want to jenx anything.
Bah dare I suggest here we are again. It is
remarkable how well they are doing in India, three hundred
runs ahead of India, five wickets in hand in their

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second innings. Of course, India is still to bat, so
we're going to look at the black Caps chances without
trying to put the commentator's curse on them this morning.
Next up, Kevin Millon will get us under way for
our Saturday Morning together. It's thirteen minutes past. I'm Jack Tame.
This is news Dog's eDV live.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
From the campaign trail in the US. It's Saturday Mornings
with Jack team and be fured on code dot zet
for high quality supplements newstalgs.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
V News Talks eDV. Yes, you're listening to Jack Tame
broadcasting live out of New York as I prepare for
the twenty twenty four US presidential election and have plenty
more to say about that this morning. My first impressions
from being on the ground, or though it has to
be said that is amazing. As New York City is,
it is probably not the best place to have an

(07:38):
overall perspective of how things are shaping up in the US. However,
I have, yeah, already had a little bit of experience
in the last day or two with some people who
are very very passionate about the likely result from the election.
So I'll tell you about that very shortly. If you
want to get in touch this morning, ninety two. Ninety
two is the text number, you know, the deal Jacketnewstalks,
dB dot co dot NZED is my email address. Kevin Miln,

(08:00):
there's with us this morning, KalDer, Kevin A Jack.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
It's just extraordinary. Really, I can get over it, maybe
because I'm an old guy, but you know, it's sort
of incredible that you're announcing that you're coming in live
from New York as though you had just wandered down
the road from your place in Auckland.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah, yeah, it is amazing. We look. I never want
to say anything about too confident about the black Caps,
and I never want to say anything too confident or
cocky or optimistic about technology either, especially Kevin when we're
on you know, fifteen minutes into our morning together. But yes,
it is amazing when technology works, what you are able
to do in this world, and just how connected we

(08:42):
can all be. So yeah, very much a privilege to
be broadcasting from here this morning. And this is a
place that hasn't just caught my heart, it's caught yours
as well.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
Yeah, well, of course you're talking about being in Central Park.
And I saw Leonard Bernstein putting on a content in
New York Philharmonic one evening, probably about the round about
the same time of the year we are now, and
just all the lights of the high rises slowly coming
on behind him as the show went on. You know,

(09:13):
I reckon Manhattan's the center of the universe, like you,
so much going on there, so intense, as you said,
the hustle.

Speaker 6 (09:22):
I spent a week.

Speaker 5 (09:23):
Filming there in nineteen ninety six. It was a travel
video for tvns it's holiday program. It seemed you couldn't
fail to make interesting videos in New York. Just point
the camera, something happens in front of it. We were
filming long lens crowd shots and downtown New York when
the cameraman asked me to look into his eyepiece. Isn't

(09:45):
that Gianni Vasacci? And there was the renowned past designer
chatting on the sidewalk, so we got shots of him.
Following year, of course he was shot dead in Miami.
We were told there was going to be a huge
moon rise over the Manhattan skyline, which we were keen
to film. Unbelievably, we had permission to film off the

(10:07):
roof of the World Trade Center, off one of the towers.
We went up a few days early to check it out.
Quite an experience, of course, wandering around on the roof
of the then highest building in New York. But when
we tested the camera we got continuous distortion tend out
to be from all the broadcasting and telecommunications and tenna

(10:29):
that are up on the roof or were up on
the roof of World Trade Center, made it impossible to
film That left just the next best thing, Jack filming
the moon rise off the balcony of the Empire State Boilding.
But we weren't allowed to take our tripod onto the
balcony in case anyone tripped over it unless we paid

(10:49):
a twenty thousand dollars insurance premium for half an hour's filming.
We didn't have that sort of budget, so the cameraman
filmed the moon rise without a tripod off his shoulder,
which ain't easy.

Speaker 6 (11:03):
For our troubles.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
We got the most punishing images of a massive moon
rising up between the Manhattan high rises. The shots are
a bit shaky, but it turned out to be the
most glorious sequence in our half hour video of New York. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:22):
That's so special, isn't it. Yeah. I suspect that that
budgets and television certainly haven't improved, and that views might have.
But maybe getting permission is even more complicated than it
was back then. Heaven, it is, like you, I feel.
They call it the crossroads of the world, don't they,
And it does. It feels like a city around which

(11:44):
the world revolves at times. I just think, you know
that there can be no place on this earth that
has more languages spoken, more cultures represented, more people from
different backgrounds, rich and poor alike. I just it is
what makes New York magical. So obviously you experienced that
during a golden period.

Speaker 5 (12:03):
Yeah. Sure, But here we are sitting there talking about
this is though you were in Auckland, but you're actually
in there. You're sitting, isn't there. It's phenomenal, It really is.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, Yeah, no, it's very special. Hey, thank you so much, Kevin,
and thank you for your text this morning. Jack, Good morning.
Absolutely loved your introduction. The memories you have reminded me
of last year when I went back to Sydney, having
not lived there for nearly forty years. So much changes,
but still so much that I can remember. Enjoy your time.
This is clear, Thank you. Clear. Yeah, it's funny. So
I I lived here for five years, and long time
listeners to the show will know that for I think

(12:38):
four years we broadcast every week out of New York.
And it's funny. I've probably been since I have moved
back to New Zealand and lived at home, I've probably
been back or five or six times. And yeah, there's
always there's almost like a little adrenaline rush. I actually
have a playlist that I play every time I land
in the city and go for my sort of first

(12:58):
walk in the sunshine to try and get used to
the jet lag and get myself on the right on
the right clock. And yeah, there's something about it. There's
some sort of visceral reaction I have every time I'm
walking back through the city. Interestingly, though, I've just come
from Long Island today, so I've been out on Long
Island to an area that is very much divided between
Donald Trump supporters and Karmala Harris supporters. In fact, I

(13:21):
was just going through a couple of houses just before
coming here that had their lawn signs all laid out
for the upcoming election, like literally next door neighbors, ones
with Kamala Harris signs, ones with Donald Trump signs. You
can only imagine what disputes over the boundary line might
mean for those kinds of communities. But it's going to
be a fascinating time broadcasting here over the next couple
of weeks as we count down to the election. Next

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up though, we will talk about the Black Caps chances
as well as that, of course, the All Blacks Japan.
Kicking off just before seven o'clock this evening. Right now,
it's twenty three minutes past nine. You're with Jack Tame
on Newstalk ZEDB.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Getting your weekends started.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
It's Saturday morning with Jack team on News Talks EDB.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Twenty five minutes past nine on news talk's 'B before
ten o'clock was one. We're gonna have your film picks
for this week. Thank you for your text, Jack, good morning.
Thank you for your wonderful description of New York. More
special was the description of the people in New York.
I mean, that's it, That's what it is, right, Like
the thing I mean, this seems obvious, but the thing
that makes New York so special is the people. Like

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that's that's what makes the city so vibrant and alive
and all of that. And that's why the people watching
in New York is better than anywhere on Earth. One
of the things I love is like getting on the
subway or just sitting in the street on a bench
or something like that and looking at people and trying
to imagine what their lives might be. And the crazy
thing about New York is that you could be looking
at someone and they could literally be a billionaire or

(14:47):
like a you know, a film producer, or just have
an astronaut, have the most extraordinary job and story. Or
they could be someone who works at seven eleven and
has never left the Five Boroughs. You never know, and
I don't know. It speaks something, It speaks to potential maybe,
And that's that's one of the things I find so
so thrilling about that. Yeah, Jack, absolutely loved your opening

(15:08):
comment this morning. Transported me to the bag Apple have
been there three times. I reckon as you say, it
is the definition of a great city ninety two ninety two.
If you want to send us a message this morning,
Andrew savillour Sporto is here, and sav you know, the
whole time change thing is tricky at the best of times.
But when I woke up this morning and I saw
that the black Cats were three hundred runs ahead, five

(15:31):
wickets in hand, second innings, India still to bat, I
couldn't believe it.

Speaker 6 (15:35):
Like it just you must know what to say.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
I mean, yeah, unbelievable.

Speaker 6 (15:40):
You must have thought the Americans had got it around
the wrong way. Jack, I cannot believe you're a New Well.
I can believe you're in New York. I knew you
were going for the elections, but I cannot believe you're
in New York when there's a Yankees Dodgers World Series
in that city in a few days.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Unbelievable. So I've just looked it up. The tickets for
the bleachers at Yankee Stadium to go into the absolute
worst seats at Yankee Stadium, and they're selling on the
secondary market here because you can go on a website
and buy tickets that people have sold them, have already
bought them. They're about three thousand New Zealand dollars just
under three thousand New Zealand dollars for a game. Yeah,

(16:18):
although my friends are Mets fans, so they're all very
disappointed with there.

Speaker 6 (16:23):
That would have been now that they wouldn't know it
was if it was Yankees Mets.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
If it was Mets Yankees. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that would
have been. I think that your time would have stopped
in New York. But yeah, that that's that, that is
going to be remarkable.

Speaker 6 (16:34):
Before the election, that we prode a lot of a teaching.
I think that I think they're picking it the bit
of what most watch World series in history of that
starts today in LA with the Dodgers hosting. But yes,
the cricket quite remarkable. That first game clearly was not
a fluke. New Zealand made two fifty nine. First India
all out for one fifty six. Mitchell Santner, who hasn't

(16:57):
I don't think he's even taken a five book at
bag and test before. He's pretty much a white bull bowler.
Seven for fifty three. The Indians were all over the shop.
I think the rat Coli, I don't think I've ever
seen him play a worst shot in test cricket.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
They're Honestly, it was terrible if something, if something's to
happen to me while I'm over here, and and and
you know, Heaven forbid you find me at my funeral
in three weeks time. All I asked is that you
put up a big screen and you play that Verrat
COLEI dismissal on repeat. Honestly, it just injected into my veins.

Speaker 6 (17:31):
I just I just to say, well, there'll probably be
more than that at your funeral, Jack, But anyway, I
would say some nice words verat Coley when he when
he walked out to the crease of it, here we go.
He'll get two or three hundred probably, you know he's jue,
he's due and then bang gone. So one fifty six
all out New Zealand, one ninety eight for five, a

(17:53):
lead of three hundred after two days of a five
day test. If they could bat, I think Phillips, if
they can bat for another one hundred to two hundred runs,
two hundred would probably probably shut India out of the game.
But nothing is a given in India. There's still a

(18:15):
long way to go in this game.

Speaker 3 (18:16):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's it. You don't want to
get too ahead of yourself. But certainly if they're able
to continue things as they have so far, then there's
every reason to feel optimistic. It feels like there's this
Japan Test, I mean, obviously it's it's a warm up
for the for the for the real tests of the
Northern too. It feels like there hasn't been a huge
amount of excitement about it this evening. But it'll be

(18:37):
good to see the All Blacks back out there just
before seven tonight.

Speaker 6 (18:40):
Be good to see guys like Cam Royguard playing in
the All Blacks again.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
Please.

Speaker 6 (18:44):
Wallace Titi is being used at eight, Sevenpenny female back
at six, McKenzie at ten. He needs he needs a
good confidence boosting performance. It has thrown under the radar
jack and I think quite rightly because you know, you've
had the White Tunes winning a World Cup, You've had
the Black Cats winning an India, a lot of other
sport that has taken taken the tension away from the

(19:07):
All Blacks, which isn't.

Speaker 5 (19:08):
A bad thing.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (19:10):
The Kiwi's League Test is at six in christ Church
tomorrow against the Kangaroos. That's a big game as well.
And what about today they have Plenty Rugby travel to
Wellington to take on the Wellington Lines and the NPC
Final at three o'clock. It's fifty or nearly fifty years
since the Bay won their first and only First Division title.

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A massive day for Bay of Plenty Rugby.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yeah, that is going to be truly extraordinary. The atmosphere
is going to be magical this afternoon. Anything in particular,
you are looking.

Speaker 6 (19:43):
At what's the as someone who knows your way around
a knife from fork, especially in New York, what's the
first thing you go to, what's the first thing you
eat when you get there? I'm curious, Okay, So I
got in.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
So I came in on the direct flight the other night,
which is much I much prefer than the one where
you've got to stop on the West coast and then
and then fly across because it means you get in
about five hours earlier. So that it meant that I
had had time for dinner the other night. Went straight
to the local Italian restaurant, had a lovely little barrata.
Yeah yeah, get it straight straight into the barrata, and

(20:18):
then a little lasagna with some red sauce. Sorted me
out from a first meal. So not exactly a slimmer's choice,
just to pick not easy into things. And then here's
one thing I love. I can listeners know that I've
got a terrible sweet tooth. But one of the things
I love about New York is you can always find
a bakery open late. And so I went to my

(20:40):
favorite favorite bakery up open until midnight, went along there
a piece of carrot cake the size of a baby,
and away you go.

Speaker 6 (20:46):
You know you saw it, They said, Jack, where have
you been?

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly, Yeah, yeah, I'm glad to see
you know it was. You go to these places and
they're still you know there you go at eleven o'clock
at night on a Monday night and there are thirty
people in there. You think, oh, I just I love that.
I love a city where people go out to socialize
because you know, their shoebox apartments mean the next day,
it's not that much fun staying at home. Hey, thank

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you so much, sev. I appreciate your time as ever.
Andrew savil Our sport over there. Don't forget a course
that Newstalk's headb is going to have a live commentary
of the All Blacks Japan from about quarter to seven.
Kickoff is at ten to seven this evening, so coverage
will start about quarter to seven on Newstalks EDB tonight
before ten o'clock. Speaking of delicious food, we've got a
Japanese rice salad recipe to share with you. Right now.

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It is twenty seven to ten gees w any four

(21:54):
members to ten You with Jack Taime on news Storks ZVB.
Thank you very much for your texts and emails this morning. Jack.
Funnily enough, I am listening to you from the tranquility
of Picton and this time next week I will be
in Central Park supporting my wife and the New York Marathon.
A little bit anxious being in New York at election time. Wow,
you'll be fine in New York. There are other parts
of the US that might be a little bit heary,

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but that's right, it's almost New York Marathon season.

Speaker 5 (22:17):
Jack.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
Last time I was in New York, I was really
disappointed by the smell of pot everywhere, namely around Times Square.
Really cheap in the experience. I gotta say, you smell
a lot of that on the streets, not quite as
much as you maybe did a couple of years ago,
but you smell heaps of it. And you know, there
aren't quite as many dispensaries as there are, you know,

(22:38):
in New York as there are in other parts of
the US, but certainly the big move to legalize cannabis
here has resulted in smelling cannabis all the time. And
like you, you know, you don't want to be smelling that.
You don't want the kids to be smelling that when
they're out and about. If you want to get in touch,
ninety two ninety two is the text number jacket newsporoks
heb dot co dot NZT is my email of address.

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It's twenty three to ten, which means it's time to
catch up with our film reviewer, Francesca Rudkin, Kilda. Good morning,
So two different films to work through this morning. Let's
start off. But the first one, this one is showing
in cinemas starring Kate Winslet. Let's have a listen to Lee.

Speaker 7 (23:16):
Question is what are you going to do the meta.

Speaker 8 (23:22):
SA Media Europe.

Speaker 7 (23:23):
I just want to do my part.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
I'm with Volge magazine. No women allowed in the press briefing.

Speaker 9 (23:29):
We got to be kidding me.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
We don't say women to combat well that's a problem.

Speaker 10 (23:33):
Because I'm here. Why should the man get to decide?

Speaker 3 (23:37):
So that is Lee's starring Kate Winslet tell us about
a Francisca Yes look.

Speaker 11 (23:41):
A couple of weeks ago, I spoke about Social Roman's
performance in a film called The Outrun and mentioned that
it's very much an award worthy performance.

Speaker 10 (23:50):
And this is probably the second award.

Speaker 11 (23:55):
You know, deservingly award performance that I have seen heading
into next year.

Speaker 10 (24:01):
Kate Winslor is really fantastic in the film. She produced
it as well. She spent about nine years get this
film onto the big screen. It was adapted from a
book called The Lives of Lean Miller, and it was
written by Lee's son, Anthony Penrose, and she really throws
herself into this role. Lean Miller was an American model
and a fine art photographer. She was amused of Man Ray.

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She taught photography in the nineteen thirties. She was in Europe.
She was in France with a group of friends and
like a lot of people talking about Hitler, but not
really aware of the horror that lies ahead. And with
this story we very much pack up her life during
World War Two when she wanted to head to the
front line and be a war photographer. She was working

(24:43):
for Vogue magazine at the time, but women were not
allowed to go to the front but she managed to
find a few loopholes and really pushed back, sort of
against the rules and boundaries, as she had done her
whole life. And she was one of the first photographers
to uncover the reality of the Holocaust.

Speaker 11 (25:02):
Documentary documenting the horror that she found at Concentration Care,
which interestingly Vogue. The British Vogue refused to print because
they thought it would be upsetting, but the American magazine
did pick them up. I'm endlessly fascinated by what drives
war correspondence.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
And this film.

Speaker 10 (25:25):
Very much looks at that through the eyes of Lee.

Speaker 11 (25:28):
We see we learn a lot more about her, We
see the impact that this experience had on her.

Speaker 10 (25:34):
We sort of learn about.

Speaker 11 (25:36):
How her own personal life and experience has contributed to
the way she saw the world and therefore what she
was able to capture through the lens. This is a
female team is behind this film, and in a way,
it's a female team giving a sort of putting the
female gaze on a female perspective of war. And I

(25:56):
think this is one of the reasons which why her
photographs had become this era had become so famous. She
was often relegated to having to photograph's experience of war
and things like that, and had a beautiful understanding of
what it means to take a photo of somebody at
a very traumatic time in their life.

Speaker 10 (26:15):
She was a real, no nonsense, practical woman, a trailblazer.

Speaker 11 (26:20):
She Yeah, she's a great character, and you can just
totally probably imagine how Kate Winslet steps into her shoes.
The film also takes a look though, at the power
of photojournalism and war correspondence and the importance jack of
actually being on the ground and witnessing it for yourself,

(26:42):
which I think in this day and age we talk
a lot about also the power of photography.

Speaker 10 (26:47):
So the way this story is told is a young
journalist comes to interview her about her career, which she's
very reluctant.

Speaker 11 (26:53):
To talk about, and it gets to the point where
that she slowly opens up more and more and she
shows him photos of these concentration camps. And these are
actually wordless scenes. Nothing needs to be said in this
film at all. It's a little bit like the zone
of interest. Just the power of the image says it all,

(27:15):
and so you sort of the film very much kind
of takes a look at the power of photography and
what it can say, and really.

Speaker 10 (27:22):
There are no words. So yeah, great, great performance by
Kate Winslet. Lee is going to be definitely a film
not to miss this year.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
That sounds amazing. Okay, I'm really looking forward to seeing that.
Sounds incredible. So that is Lee. It is showing in cinemas.
Now your next film is also showing in cinemas. This
is Venom the Last Dance?

Speaker 9 (27:41):
Who sent that?

Speaker 6 (27:45):
Then?

Speaker 5 (27:58):
Every thing I know?

Speaker 3 (28:01):
That is Venom the Last Dance? Tell us about it?

Speaker 10 (28:03):
So Jack, we're going from this to the ridiculous here
but almost intentionally ridiculous. Probably one of the best things
about then in the Last Dances. It's one hundred and
nine minutes long. Good on you, Thank you for providing
us with a short.

Speaker 11 (28:20):
Sort of precise slice of entertainment that's perfect to eat
some popcorn and then head off and get back to
your lives. This is the third and supposedly final film
in the Venom trilogy. The Venom films are a little
bit of this that they took it one by surprise.

Speaker 10 (28:34):
The first one was released in twenty eighteen, and maybe
because there weren't a lot of other superhero films released
around that period, it did really, really well.

Speaker 11 (28:44):
It cost about one hundred million to make and it
grossed about eight hundred and fifty five minute, so it
was like one of the biggest box office surprise hits
of the year. It's a since they've gone, well, let's
just hipbout a few more. And I kind of, in
a way, I quite like the way these films are
quite bad. They feel very sort of half hearted. They're
a little bit ridiculous. The plot's really simple but still
didn't make a huge amount of sense. Tom Hardy just

(29:07):
carries this character of this another journalist, a journalist who
has this symbotic relationship with an alien, and the two
of them are just whacking and off they go, and
it's sort of a spin off of Spider Man, but
Spider Man doesn't really exist in this film. They crack
a few gags which do not work with some quite
good sort of special effects, and you kind of just

(29:27):
sit there going on this ride, going okay.

Speaker 10 (29:30):
I kind of I almost admire you guys managing.

Speaker 11 (29:33):
To make a success out of this and good on you,
but it probably is time to wrap it up.

Speaker 3 (29:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, it sounds good. Yeah, but I'm
not sure that one's for me. I'm going to go
with Lee. That was your first film, so that is
our venom. The last dance. Lee was Francesca's first film.
That's the one with Kate Winslet, and both of those
films will be up on the news talks He'd be website.
The easiest way to find all the stuff from our
show is to go to the website, find our show page,
and everything goes up there just as soon as it's

(30:04):
been on the radio. And if you don't really do
you feel like going along to the cinema this week,
you just think for a quiet night at home after
the All Blacks, maybe after the kiwis tomorrow night, good
News after ten o'clock this morning, got three new shows
to recommend you in our screen time segment, including Simone
Biles Rising Part two. You might remember before the Olympics

(30:25):
they put out like a couple of weeks before the Olympics,
Netflix put out a documentary series about Simone Biles about
her experience at the last Olympics the way she was
trying to rebuild her gymnastics career and then compete in
the Olympics this year. Well, of course there was going
to be a part two. So now that she has
competed in those Olympics very very successfully, triumphantly, even they've

(30:47):
put out the part two, so will tell you a
bit more about that after ten o'clock. Next up, though,
our cook nicki Wix is hair with a delicious long
weekend dinner right now. It's called ten.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Live from the US. It's Saturday Mornings with Jackame.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
With bpewre dot co dot Nz high quality supplements, news talks.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
It'd be thirteen to ten on new Stooks. He'd be
thank you so much for all of your texts and
your emails this morning, Jack loved, loved, loved, loved your
four loves. How about that four loves loved your opening
comments this morning. Fantastic description of New York. Have only
been there once. We'd love to go there once again.
It's on my bucket list. This is what It's one
of those great cities for coming back to. I reckon.

(31:30):
There are only so many cities on Earth that you
really want to visit multiple times in your life, But
I reckon New York's one of those not only do
you never run out of stuff to do, but also
it's great to see how a city changes, but doesn't
you know, And I feel like the city here is
always in motion. So thank you for that. Ninety two
ninety two If you want to send us a message
this morning, time now to catch up with our cook
Nikki works more than to Nikki.

Speaker 12 (31:52):
Yes, Morena. Had I known that you were in the
great Big Apple, I would have perhaps pulled out a
New York cheesecake or some Buffalo Wings.

Speaker 3 (32:00):
Or something like that. To be here to pull out those,
to pull out those.

Speaker 12 (32:06):
It's true, it's true.

Speaker 5 (32:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (32:10):
The color of the food in New York. How fantastic,
you lucky thing.

Speaker 3 (32:15):
I always think it's the world's biggest food court. You
want it, They've gone it basically somewhere, and there's going
to be a good version of it somewhere. So yeah,
it's been going hungry over the last few days. You
have a little bit of a long weekend treat for us,
a bit of an opportunity to use the long weekend

(32:36):
to make a big batch of some staples with a
twist to get you through the next week period.

Speaker 12 (32:41):
Yeah, I really do, because I think it's nice when
you've got a long weekend for those people that don't
want to be cooking all weekend to make a big
batch of something and then you can sort of be
scooping into it. And in this case, I have made
a big batch of Japanese rice salad. And I know
that might not sound like the sort of thing that
you were really after. Maybe you were open for a cheesecake.
You can do that too, but this salad.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
Is just great.

Speaker 13 (33:04):
It does.

Speaker 12 (33:05):
You need to when you're doing a big batch of
food or food that you want to last for a
few days or even longer, you want to make sure
that it's fruit will what us chefs refer to is
hold well. You know, like there's a cold slaw is
going to start weeping after a short period of time,
and that sort of thing. So you want to make
sure that it really does hold well. And this one does.

(33:26):
It's just great.

Speaker 14 (33:27):
Now.

Speaker 12 (33:27):
Look I have used it's sort of a healthy to
which I quite like over a long weekend because we
overindulge of a long weekend. This makes about six cups.
Now you can double triple it whatever. But first thing,
I do is pickle some mushrooms, actually jack, and these
just take a few hours or overnight, and I just
love these. All I do is I grab abouts, you know,

(33:49):
I sort of packet or about two hundred grams a
couple of handfuls of brown button mushrooms. You could use
the white button mushrooms if you like, but the button
ones are quite tight, which we love. Thinly slice those,
or if they're really tiny, you could have them whole
and throw those in a jar, really cram them into
a jar, and then put in one teaspoon of finely

(34:09):
diced onion, or you could use some chives or spring onion,
one teaspoon of grated ginger, one teaspoon of brown sugar,
seventy five meals of rice wine vinegar easily available in
the supermarket, and one big tablespoon of soy sauce. Mix
those together and pour those over your mushrooms, and then
top up the jar with boiling water and just leave

(34:29):
it for about two hours or overnight. They'll also keep
for ages. And they're just the most beautiful pickled mushrooms,
and we're going to use that in this beautiful salad.
The salad is just a manner of tossing a whole
lot of ingredients together. I've got four cups of brown rice.

Speaker 10 (34:44):
Or sushi rice.

Speaker 12 (34:45):
Both of those are quite short grained, need a good
rinse before they get cooked. I always use the steaming.

Speaker 15 (34:52):
Method, Jack.

Speaker 12 (34:53):
I've long given up trying to boil rice, and I
don't have a rice steamer, but I just steam it
in a pot. One cup of those beautiful shelled itt
a marmade beings that you can find in the frozen section.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Of the Oh, don't you love those?

Speaker 1 (35:05):
I love it.

Speaker 12 (35:06):
Make sure when you're selecting them you get the ones
that are shelled, otherwise you're going to be potting them.
And I just pour boiling water over those, and it's
enough to kind of cook them enough. Half to one
hole telegraph cucumber, slice that nice and thinly, three to
four radishes, your pickled mushrooms. And then you can add
to this, which I would sort of toss over at

(35:27):
the end, maybe some tuna chunks, maybe some hot smoked salmon,
maybe some shrimar, carrot. But you don't need to. It's fine,
so toss all the ingredients together. I do hold back
some of the radish for the top because it looks
so beautiful. Tumble it onto a big old serving plate,
and then drizzle over again. It's that sore bought roasted

(35:48):
sesame dressing. Oh I can drink the stuff, it's so good,
and so be quite lavish with that. Also, you know,
drizzle over a little bit of that pickling juice, a
good squeeze of lemon juice, and then scatter over your
remaining radish and your sesame seeds. And you've just got
this beautiful, colorful, amazing salad that you can just spoon

(36:10):
out for lunch or for dinner, maybe on its own,
maybe together with some barbecue chops or or as I say,
some smoked salmon. It's really delicious.

Speaker 10 (36:20):
It's just so good.

Speaker 3 (36:21):
It sounds fantastic. Yeah, and like you said, it's perfect
for the long weekend as well. Okay, thank you. So
what we will do is, look, everyone knows the deal.
We're going to go and put her on the website.
Hopefully no one's been scribbling down notes over the last
couple of minutes. If you want to make that at
home this weekend, it's really easy. Nicky's recipes are always
up on the website just a few minutes after she's
been on with us. Thank you so much. Nick. You

(36:43):
have a fantastic long weekend.

Speaker 12 (36:45):
Yeah you too. Enjoy that beautiful, big, thrumming city.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
I will do NICKI wick cook beer right now. It's
seven to ten.

Speaker 2 (36:53):
His week is ending.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
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Speaker 2 (37:04):
News talk to me.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
So, I suppose the obvious question at this point is
who do people in the US think is going to
win the US election? Or who do I think is
going to win the US election? Truth be told, I
think the answer, at least for me at the moment,
to both of those questions is exactly the same, and
that is, I don't know. The polls are crazy close,

(37:28):
whether it's the whether it's the popular vote, or whether
it is the swing states or battleground states that are
likely to decide the election. I'm going to be traveling
around the US over the next week or so. I'm
trying to get a bit of a steer from on
the ground. But I think what is obvious at this
stage is that if you look at those critical battleground states,
the poles are definitely worse for Karmala Harris than they

(37:51):
were for Joe Biden at the stage of the race,
and then they were for Hillary Clinton at the stage
of the race. Now that's not to say that the
poles are necessarily accurate, but it is to say that
the polls in those critical states are worse for Carmela
and thus might suggest that Trump is in a better
stage at the moment. Anyway'm going to tell you more
about my first impressions from life on the ground in
the US ahead of the election after ten o'clock this

(38:11):
morning as well as that cannot wait for our feature
interview this morning. She is, at sixteen years old, the
youngest person ever in the Wiggles. She's had an amazing life.
Her name is Sahi Hawkins and she's been to the
Wiggles for a couple of years now. She was a
champion ballroom dancer and Latin dancer. She's coming back to

(38:31):
New Zealand to perform alongside the Wiggles and a bit
of an unusual performance. So usually, of course their songs
are for kids. Well, just after New Years they're going
to be playing at a festival for adults. They're going
to be remixing some of the Wiggles classics for those
of us who grew up with those beats. So Sahai
Wiggle will be with us right after the tearcock news.
It's almost ten o'clock. News is next. I'm Jack Tame

(38:51):
broadcasting live from New York. This is news Talk as
the election.

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Speaker 3 (39:04):
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Speaker 3 (39:17):
Morning and welcome to news Dogs. He'd be yes, that's
just going to be going round and round and round
and round your head over the next three days or so.
Should get you through the whole long weekend. I reckon
the Wiggles, would you believe have been going strong for
more than thirty years now? And many of us and
I say us who grew up watching the Wiggles have kids,

(39:37):
and what started as a group of four has of
course become a group of eight, four men and four
women across a broad range of ages. Yellow Wiggle Sahai
is the youngest wiggle there has ever been. So she
grew up listening to the Wiggles and now she's going
to be performing alongside the Wiggles during the New Zealand
tour early next year with their big dance sound system

(40:00):
dance party. It's going to be the sort of performance
that you would expect, gets kids and their parents bogging along.
So Hi it is with a skeout, a good morning,
thank you, thanks for having me. It is so good
to see you and so good to have you back
in New Zealand. For people who aren't fully aware of
your story, can you tell us what is involved when
it comes to joining the Wiggles.

Speaker 7 (40:20):
Well, all of us have our own separate talents. But
I'm a dancer, So I literally went to dancing like
a dance school my whole life, and I trained up
until year ten. Mid year ten, the Wiggles asked if
I'd like to come on the road as a Wiggly dancer.
I said yes, and then halfway during the tour they said,
would you like to be a Wiggle?

Speaker 3 (40:38):
That's literally how it happened, and it's okay. Tell me
about the moment when they asked you to be a Wiggle.
Just like paint has the picture here.

Speaker 7 (40:43):
Okay, Well, there was actually two different circumstances. We had
a TV show called Fruit Sala TV, which was on YouTube.
It was a Red Wiggle at the time, and it
was really really cool. That was on a Zoom meeting
we had all the other the four Other Wiggles because
we've expanded to h with the Four Other Wiggles. John Pierce,
the current Purple Wiggle, he was on there with me
as well, and they said, would you guys like to

(41:05):
be part of our new tvc for TV right, and so.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Like they just say, hey, guys, hope you're having a
good day. Do you want to be part of the
TV show? And you're like, oh my gosh, or like
do they build up? Do they say, We've been really
impressed with you guys, your professionalism, your talents, or how
do they break it? Can you remember?

Speaker 7 (41:23):
I can't even remember. It was kind of a blow.
I was actually at school when that had happened. I
went into one of the little rooms and I put
my headphones on you at school at school? Yeah, literally,
So it was kind of surreal. I honestly can't remember
most of it, but what was pretty fast and we
kind of all had an inkling. Something was happening, but
we didn't really know it was that. And I think

(41:45):
even when they told us, we didn't realize we were
being wiggles. We just thought we were characters until we
got into the studio and they gave us skivvy's. I
got a red skivvy with the names Hire written on it.
Then I realized, oh, my goodness, I'm being a wiggle
right now, which is cool. And then so from there
we filmed that TV series and it was mid lockdown,
so I didn't see anyone for ages. And then I
think a week before we were like restrictions were ending,

(42:08):
we were about to go back into the world. They
asked if I could come into the office on a Monday,
and I was like, oh, I'm going back to dancing
and like my dance school. So I was like, oh,
can I come the next day just so I know
how the rest of my year is going to pan out,
and they said, we really really need you. I was like, oh, yeah, okay,
that's fine, it's not that deep.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
I'll go.

Speaker 7 (42:24):
And then that morning before I went in, they set
up a zoom meeting and they said, so hi, Like
that was where they kind of like said, we've been
really loving having you along the team. Would you like
to take over Emma's role and become the Yellow Wiggle?
And that was a pretty pretty surreal moment.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Yeah, that must have been incredible, like do you and
you get like the rush of a dreamland and all
of that when they're telling you. But you're trying to
be professional literally and like we.

Speaker 7 (42:49):
Had no clue, like we did not know. We thought maybe,
like I don't know, they were doing a new song
or something they needed me to bring something in. But
my mom and dad were sitting next to me. My
brother was off on the camera and they were Mum
was trying not to cry. She's like, oh my goodness.
And so it was I like, surreal, honestly amazing.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
You talked about your dance experience and you have just
been an incredibly successful dancer over the year. Salsa right, yes,
lots of American dancing.

Speaker 9 (43:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (43:16):
My brother's Colombian, so when we adopted him, I saw
their styles and when we were in Colombia and I
was like, Mom, I was about six, and I was like,
I want to do this. So when I came back
to Australia, did all the styles and then I went
into mainly somba and salsa, and I am eleven times
Australian dance champion and five times world champion.

Speaker 3 (43:35):
That's good, okay, So tell me about being in Colombia
and seeing the dancing.

Speaker 7 (43:39):
We were you we were in Karli and Bogata, we
went everywhere, and a lot of their dancing was with
the dresses and that's called coumbia, so that was their
cultural style. But I did see sausa on the streets
when we went to different like Latin like restaurants, like
they had dancing there, and I was like, oh my goodness,
I want to do this.

Speaker 3 (43:55):
I've never I don't think in all of my life,
I've never felt less coordinated or talented. Then traveling through
Columbia and going to like a salsa club and seeing
everyone just kind of like make you know, because the
thing about culser is you can just dance with a
stranger and just you just you follow each other, you
follow the lead, right literally, you un less. You can't

(44:16):
dance like me, which cause it's just like, oh my gosh,
it's so embarrassing. But it strikes me of the many
different dance styles as being one where if you are
just making it up in the moment, it must be
incredibly fulfilling. It must be. It must be an amazing
feeling when you're doing.

Speaker 7 (44:32):
Oh absolutely, And like you said, like they literally have
social clubs. That's what they like do. They literally go
and dance with others and it's so cool. I think
the music feels really like it really works with the rhythm,
Like even if you're not a dancer, you kind of
want to dance along to it.

Speaker 14 (44:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Yeah, it's it's remarkable what kind of energy is required
and being a wiggle because like everyone has bad days,
like even even like in the you know, if you're
having a really rough time of things, it must take
something special to be able to pick yourself up and
get on with it.

Speaker 7 (45:03):
I think it's such a group, like amazing group that
we work with. Everyone's friends will actually mates, so it
makes it so much easier. It doesn't feel like work.
And even if you do have a like a bad
day or a bad morning, as soon as you get
into the office, someone's cracked a joke and we're all
laughing again. So I think it's you've got to.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
Be possitively yeah, like it does it take something special
though as an individual, do you think that's kind of
part of the secret source and making you a successful
Wiggle You know, maybe something that not all of us have,
those of us who can be a bit grumpy from
time to time, that you can just push through that
when you are having a bit of a crappy day.

Speaker 7 (45:37):
I think so a little bit for sure, because I mean,
we couldn't be Wiggles going out and being mad in public,
you know, can you imagine, yeah, really ruined childhoods? But
I think, yeah, I think you've got to have that
certain like energy about you and that's why it's such
a good group to work with. Yeah, but yeah, yeah, no, definitely,
we definitely couldn't be walking out having a dancer upside.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
I'm sure I know the answer to this. But did
you grow up listening to the Wiggles music?

Speaker 7 (46:03):
Absolutely massive fan. I literally have photos of I went
to I think I've been to three of their concerts
before it became.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
A wiggle Oh my gosh, do you have you showed them?

Speaker 2 (46:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (46:12):
Yeah, I think there's there's a few of my Instagram
And I was going through my mom's like laptop the
other day and I found a video of me doing
like rockerby e Van when I was like two.

Speaker 3 (46:21):
So, yes, that's so funny because I feel like it's
the kind of soundtrack to a million childhood or to
like teen million childhood. So you know, it's pretty remarkable
that you can go from that that, I don't want
to say a brand, yeah, but a group canon dua
through generations like that, don't you think. Why do you

(46:42):
think that is?

Speaker 7 (46:43):
I think it all stems from the original four the
og Wiggles. They were all had back up in like
early childhood teaching, so they were all preschool teachers and
they all loved music. They literally had their own band
called the Cockroaches. Yeah, so they were pretty cool. And
then I don't know how that switch happened, but they
started making music for children, and I think because they
had such a mazing knowledge in both they could come

(47:06):
at it together. And also, our audience renews every few years,
so it's like, you know, it's not getting old because
you've always got a new audience.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
Yeah. Do you do you have a trick for getting
the songs out of your head at the end of
the day? Oh, I mean I when I first it's
not a criticism of the song, because they're amazing. About
of the reason that the groove is so successful is
because they are so catchy. But they are so catchy.

Speaker 7 (47:30):
They are so catchy. Honestly, every time we have a
new one, too get stuck in my head. I think
I listen to very different music when I'm at home
or in the.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
What's very different?

Speaker 7 (47:40):
What's very different? Oh, it goes from everywhere. So I
do love a bit of R and B and rap, yes,
but I also love some good old school dad tunes.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
So oh I like that.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Okay, give me the give me the like most hardcore
rap that you listen to.

Speaker 7 (47:53):
Oh my gosh, I'm trying to think. Okay, I like
more of the nineties vibes. I'm more of like with
Nelly and Biggie. Yeah like that.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
I like that.

Speaker 7 (48:02):
I like this stuff now, Like I still love like
Who's like Don Toler and like Kendrick and all that,
Like it's still like that too, but like definitely because
of my parents, Like I'll just listen to the Mannies Wratham, that's.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
So funny, Like yeah, talking about contrasts and nothing gets
resealed out of your here country grammar Ross. Yeah, yeah,
that's funny what surprised you about what surprised you about
the institution? Now that you are absolutely part of it
and you are touring and you are performing all the time,

(48:34):
what do you understand about the Wiggles that you didn't
understand when you're on the outside.

Speaker 7 (48:38):
I think how important it is when we do our
shows that were catering to children and that this is
their first time seeing a live concert. This is like
all experiences, especially with little ones, is very exciting for
their parents. So with Rocker by a Bear, for example,
everybody clap, you know, they clap three times. That's something amazing,
Like little steps are huge to them. So it's pretty

(49:00):
amazing to see it firsthand when we see a parent
watching their child like join along and they just be
with happiness. So that's pretty much stood out to me.

Speaker 3 (49:08):
Do you like kids?

Speaker 14 (49:09):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (49:10):
I mean no, of course, absolutely.

Speaker 3 (49:13):
Scandalers that would have said, I'm yeah, yeah, yeah, But
I mean, you know, because the OG four were came
from a background and in early childhood education, yes, you
were still at school, yes, literally, so it's not like
you've had heaps of experience on that front.

Speaker 7 (49:29):
Necessarily, No, And that's probably what I've learned the most. Yeah,
I joined when I was fifteen, so still half a child.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
School doesn't it well?

Speaker 7 (49:38):
Because I was a dancer, I kind of already went
to a bit of a I did like distance education,
so schooling online, and then it kind of like phased out.
But I was already doing that, so that that works
without any crazy headlines.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
There's fair enough to So tell us about the performance
you guys are going to be putting together in January
this year. You're going to mount the Wiggles Sound System Festival.

Speaker 7 (49:59):
Yes, this is pretty cool because Dorothy has now become
a DJ. She's she's leveled up. I mean, she still
does all the wiggle stuff, but she's now. We've got
remixes of the og Wiggles songs who need it, like
club vibes. We've got full house techno, and that's what
we're doing in January next year. Myself, I think John
and Anthony were gonna come out the younger ones. John

(50:20):
and I we're the ones who like to keep the
Wiggles trendy. And Anto is amazing. He's great, he loves
to join and he has no idea what's going on,
but he loves the party. So yeah, We're so stoked
to be coming back.

Speaker 3 (50:31):
That's such a good idea because it's like people you
know who are kind of like getting into middle age
like me, who like love a better that, love a
lot of club music, love the songs. Combine them together.

Speaker 8 (50:42):
There you go.

Speaker 7 (50:42):
Yeah, you get nostalgia and you get good beats.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
Yeah exactly. We're so good to have you back in
the country. Thank you so much for giving us your
time and congratulations on what you have achieved at a
ridiculously young age.

Speaker 7 (50:53):
No worries, thank you think Miss Long that is.

Speaker 3 (50:56):
A high Wiggle. So as I said, the Wiggles are
bringing their sound System Dance Party to Mount Monganui and
the Three christ Church. It's going to be there the summer,
set to be the most exciting kids and adults dance
festival on the planet. You can find tickets and information
at www dot Kyaevents dot co dot nz and we

(51:17):
will make sure that there is a link on our
website and on our Facebook page this morning as well.
Now before eleven o'clock, we're going to give you some
tips on what to do if you've got a problem
with webbing clothesmoths at your place. It's that time of year,
we might just start seeing a few of them around
or seeing the damage that they cause. As well as that,
our money guy with his top tips on preparing for

(51:38):
buying property, the things that you can do to help
bring the price down. Right now, it's nineteen minutes past ten.
I'm Jacktame. This is news Dog ZB.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
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Speaker 3 (51:57):
Twenty two minutes past ten on news doorgs EDB. If
you want to send us a message, ninety two to
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messages coming in, so I'm going to get to those
very shortly right now though it is screen time time.
Tara Reward is our screen time experts. She's with us
this time every week with her top picks for TV
shows to watch or stream at home. Morning Tara, Good morning,

(52:20):
a couple of shows I'm really excited about this morning.
Let's start off with the latest one streaming on Netflix.
Tell us about Territory.

Speaker 16 (52:27):
Yeah, this is a new Australian drama and it's sort
of a mix of Yellowstone and Succession. It's set in
the Northern Territory on the biggest cattle station in the country,
which is about the same size as Belgium, and it's
about the family, the Lawsons, who run the station. Starts
with the death of the son who's been running the
farm and that triggers a big power struggle about who

(52:49):
will take over. You've got the second son who wants
the job but as an alcoholic. You've got the wayward
grandson who's into some dodgy criminal activity. You've got businessmen
who want to come in and mind the land and
make a lot of money off it. And you've got
the daughter in law, who's played by the brilliant and
at All who is the most skilled and savvy of
them all, but is overlooked because.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
She's a woman.

Speaker 16 (53:11):
And so the family in the show is very dysfunctional
and this power struggle to take over and run the
farm is going to play out in this very dry, dusty,
remote location where you need to rely on the same
community of people who are also trying to undercut and
do a deal and betray you.

Speaker 12 (53:28):
It's a very series.

Speaker 16 (53:30):
It's exactly what you would expect from an Australian drama
in the outback. There's kind of no surprises here, but
I think this is Netflix making an Australian drama that
will hanniversal global appeal. A great cast. Sarah Wiseman and
Jay Ryan, both New Zealand actors, are in this.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
And yeah, I really enjoyed this.

Speaker 16 (53:47):
It's a compelling, easy watch for the long weekend.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
Nice. Okay, that's territory that's on Netflix. Very excited about
this next one, also streaming on Netflix. And we all
knew it was coming, didn't we Survowe Biles Rising Part two.

Speaker 16 (54:02):
Yeah, this is the second part of the documentary series
about the incredible American gymnast Simon Biles, And we talked
about this series a couple of months ago when it
came out before the Olympics and said, you know, if
anyone deserves a redemption arc, it's Simobiles.

Speaker 14 (54:16):
And now we have it.

Speaker 16 (54:17):
So Netflix have just released two more episodes of this series,
following Simon Biles as she goes back to the Olympics
and competes at Paris and fulfills that goal of battling
through the pain and overcoming all the things she's needed
to overcome to win gold. And I wanted to mention
this again today because so many people have told me
that they loved Part one of this documentary. Part two

(54:38):
episodes are just as good. It's about her life and
her sacrifices, what it takes to be the very best.
But also there's lots of footage of her competing at
Paris and lots of that behind the scenes action that
I just love as well.

Speaker 3 (54:49):
So if you enjoyed Part one, this is the icing
on the cake, do you reckon there would have been
a part two if Paris hadn't gone well? Or is
it like this is entirely as Part two, entirely contingent
on who doing well in Paris.

Speaker 16 (55:01):
No, I feel like it would have. They would have
made it regardless. I think she's the type of person
that is inspirational no matter what challenges she faces. So
even if she hadn't pulled off those goals in Paris,
I think this still would have been a pretty compelling
emotional watch.

Speaker 3 (55:21):
Yeah, yeah, nice, I'm really looking forward to seeing that.
So that is Simone Biles Rising Part two that's on Netflix.
In our third show I was on Netflix this morning
as well. It's an oldly bit of goody line of Beauty.

Speaker 16 (55:32):
Yeah, Sadly, I'm not here to say that there is
a new season of Line of Judy. I wish there was,
but I can say that all six seasons have just
landed on Netflix and as you say, an old bit
of goody. And if you haven't seen Line of Duty before,
I really recommend this probably one of the best British
drama series ever made. It's a thriller about a police
department who have to investigate corrupt police officers. So they

(55:53):
are investigating their colleagues and the deeper they dig, the
more corruption they find. And there is just twist after
twist after twist. It's a Jed Mercurio drama and he
is famous for dropping viewers straight into the action from
the opening scenes. There is never a slow start to
Line a Journey. Season one came out in twenty twelve,
but it is one of those shows that you can

(56:13):
just watch over and over again. It's in a Juridassic
and already it's in Netflix's top ten in New Zealand,
so we're loving it. And if you want something classic
and just so good to binge through this long weekend,
you can't go wrong with this one.

Speaker 3 (56:25):
Okay, I'm going to add to your recommendations for binging.
And I know this is a real favorite for many
people listening this morning. But on the way flying over
here to New York, I knew that i'd have to
pick out a couple of things just in case there's
just the selection on the plane wasn't to my liking.
So I did that thing where I subscribed to Apple
TV and I downloaded the full series of Slow Horses,

(56:47):
the latest one, because I didn't want to wait. I
didn't want to have to have it drip fed to
me over the last you know, two months or six
weeks or overlong. So I waited for the finale and
then I downloaded the whole series so I could binge
watch it in in one go. So good. Slow Horses
is just so good. So if anyone hasn't seen Slow
Horses yet, I'm going to add your recommendations that I
know you've talked about it before. You're a big fan

(57:08):
as well. Tara, Hey, thank you so much. So those
shows once Again, Territory, Simone, Biles Rising Part two, and
Line of Duty are all streaming on Netflix. It is
just coming up to ten thirty.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
Getting your weekend started It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team
on News talksb.

Speaker 6 (57:54):
Such a jam, is it not?

Speaker 3 (57:56):
She needs no introduction, of course. Kylie Minogue has been
at the forefront of global pop music for nearly four decades.
The Australian icon is hot off residency in Las Vegas.
She's gearing up for a world tour, and she has
just dropped a brand new album. It's called Tension two.
It is her seventeenth album. It follows hot on the

(58:17):
heels of her previous album, Tension, so that hence the two.
Like any self respecting dance queen, well dancing queen, Kylie
obviously wants to keep the party going. So she is
passed her unimpeachable nineties and two thousands run, but is
still delivering great singles. And that last album, Tension was
actually hailed as her best full length album in many years.

(58:39):
So we're gonna have a bit of a listen to
Tention too this morning. See how that stacks up. It's
not like a deluxe version or anything like that. It
is an entirely new record of glittering eighties nostalgia EDM
style pop. So we're gonna play a bit of that
before midday today. Thank you very much. Fair feedback this morning,
all of your messages Jack, fabulous description of New York

(58:59):
this morning. I visited for the first time last year
for someone who'd lived in London for ten years when
I was in my twenties, I was below and away.
It's far and away the greatest, most vibrant city I've
ever visited in my sixty three years. Thank you very
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Speaker 1 (59:19):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers, the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 17 (59:23):
Social investment Minister Nicola Willis is with us. To my eye,
it's got a slightly wooly sort of feel. I mean,
what is social investment, what specifically.

Speaker 18 (59:30):
Is it and what changes well you think about basic concept.
Everyone in New Zealand agrees, let's not have an ambulance
at the bottom of the clost.

Speaker 19 (59:38):
Let's build seas.

Speaker 18 (59:39):
That's what social investment's about. It's about proper prevention and
proper early intervention so that people don't go on to
lead life of crime. Wealthare dependency, under achievement, cleaning all
of that up and being much more pristical about what
we invest in and whether it's working.

Speaker 17 (59:56):
Back Tuesday from six am, the Mic Hosking Breakfast of
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Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
Twenty five to eleven, Non News talk EDB. We were
saying at the start of the show this morning, it
takes a little bit of technical wizardry to be able
to broadcast live from New York around the world, and
this week we've managed our technical wizardry with none us
than our tech spurt. Paul Stenhouse is with us this
time every week. He is, of course based in New York,
He's been living there for years, so this morning I

(01:00:24):
had the great pleasure of going out for a cup
of coffee with him before he set us up for
our show. Good morning, Paul, I.

Speaker 8 (01:00:30):
Know I saved the show with a USB adapter.

Speaker 3 (01:00:33):
Who would have thought, Ah, I mean, you are always
saving the day in some way, shape or form, But no,
it was wonderful to see you right before our show.
And for anyone who wants to see what Paul's backyard
looks like, I've put a photo up on our Facebook page,
So go and search out Jack Tame on Facebook or
go to Jacktame dot com and you will be able
to see Paul and I just minutes before the show

(01:00:55):
started this morning, catching up with one of the most
incredible views in the world. Anyway, another week, Paul and
more AI advancement. So we've got the new claud AI
being released, but a crazy powerful AI is apparently just
months away.

Speaker 8 (01:01:10):
YEA, So Chat GPT, the company that started at all,
can you believe not even two years ago? Says well,
there's some reporting that says that they are going to
be releasing a new model, which is apparently code named o'riyan,
in December, so that'll be about two years since this
thing launched. It's going to be Chat GPT maybe five.

(01:01:32):
We're currently at Chat GPT four.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
Jack.

Speaker 8 (01:01:35):
This is big though, because if this reporting is true,
they say it's going to be one hundred times more
powerful than the current GPT four. One hundred times more powerful?

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
Can I say that again?

Speaker 10 (01:01:49):
That is crazy.

Speaker 8 (01:01:51):
They're going to launch it a little bit differently though, previously,
than when they've had a new model as they call them,
come out, they put them straight into the latest chat
GPT software. They're going to do it a little bit
differently in the sense that they're going to give it
to their paying partners using their APIs first. So these
are the folks who are building honestly whole businesses on

(01:02:12):
top of chat GPT's business.

Speaker 7 (01:02:15):
It's big.

Speaker 8 (01:02:16):
It needs to work because they just closed a wait
for it, six point six billion dollar funding round and
they're working to restructure themselves now as a for profit company.
They currently are not for profit. So maybe instead of
open AI, do we think it'll be closed AI.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
It's so interesting. So I mean, in real terms, what
does one hundred times more powerful than chat GPT four
actually mean? Like, if I'm going on too chatgbt dot
com or using the app, how different does it look
to me?

Speaker 8 (01:02:50):
I think faster, it's probably going to know more, it's
going to probably sound a little smarter. I mean when
you think about what these AI tools can do, right,
they scan text and they know information from that text.
So you think, if it's going to be one hundred
times more powerful, if it can scan all of the

(01:03:10):
laws of the land, all of the past cases, it's
going to be a significantly smarter quote unquote lawyer and
give maybe better legal advice or defenses or whatever you
want to use it for think of the same thing
about software engineers.

Speaker 14 (01:03:26):
If it can go and it can scan.

Speaker 8 (01:03:27):
Code bases of current applications, it's going to know so
much more about those code bases, and it's going to
get to do more. It's going to do it faster,
and it's going to just the here and seem smarter.

Speaker 3 (01:03:41):
I mean, it's already remarkable what it can do in
terms of coding, right Like, it's just just just crazy
what AI is able to achieve just now in the
latest Claude model is doing just that. Meanwhile, Adobe says
that artists actually need to get on board the AI bandwagon.
I thought AI and artistry did not go hand in hand.

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
No they don't.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
Really.

Speaker 8 (01:04:01):
There's quite a backlash actually to that tech in the
whole creative community of all all sorts of artists, whether
they be painters or whether they be video editors. But
this VP who looks after all of the generative AI
at Adobe says, these artists, Jack, they are not going
to be successful in this new world without using it.
It basically says, get on board or you're going to

(01:04:26):
get left in the dust. But here's something that's interesting.
He did go on to say that human creativity will
still be a critical part and that there will be
a thirst for artists who do things by hand. So
maybe it's more that you should do the AI for
things just for fun and maybe there or for work

(01:04:48):
and then maybe do something that's may be a little
more artistic, for something that's a little more meaningful to you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
Yeah, ah, that's interesting. A it's going to be so disruptive.
Thank you so much, Paul. We appreciate your time. Pau
Standhouse is our text Bert and My coffee date this
afternoon in Manhattan before eleven o'clock. We're in the garden.
We're going to catch up with Rude climb Passed, who's
got tips on how to sort out any webbing clothes
moths you've got at your place. These are a bit
of a problem about this time of year. He's just

(01:05:16):
discovered a couple of his place, so he's going to
give us his top tips for that. Next up, though,
our money man with advice on getting the best deal
when buying a property. Right now, it's twenty to eleven
you with Jack Tame. This is Newstalk zb.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
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Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
Eighteen to eleven, Non News Talks EDB. It's really interesting
to look at a lot of the polling coming out
of the US at the moment, because no one anywhere
seems all that confident in it.

Speaker 5 (01:05:54):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
If you compare the poles at the moment, especially across
the electoral college, so you look at those swing states
or those battleground states that are all important for the
US election, Karmala Harris is in a worse position than
Joe Biden was polling at this time four years ago,
and a worse position Hillary Clinton was polling at eight
years ago. Now, there are a couple of ways to
interpret that. Number One, you can go, oh, well, she's

(01:06:16):
definitely in a worse position. But there is also a
theory going around, and I mean, this might just be
wishful thinking on behalf of the Democrats that the polsters
are so aware of under reporting Donald Trump's support that
actually they have overcorrected in their various polling models. So
when they look at the polls right now, they're saying, oh, well, actually,

(01:06:37):
you know, we always know that Trump does a little
bit better than his support from the raw data suggests,
so we're going to give him a couple of extra
percentage points, and what do you know, it's effectively a
toss up. So there's kind of two schools of thought
at the moment. One is that Donald Trump is looking
pretty good and maybe Carmala Harris isn't doing as well
as her predecessors. The second school of thought, though, is

(01:06:58):
that the polsters have overcorrected. No one's of course going
to know until after November six but it's going to
be fascinating to see how that turns out. Right now
sixteen to eleven, in time to catch up with our
money guy, resident economists at Opie's Partners, Ed McKnight is
with us this morning.

Speaker 5 (01:07:12):
Gol to Ed get a jack.

Speaker 19 (01:07:14):
Nice to speak to you, Yeah, nice.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
To be speaking to you. You've got tips for us
this morning on getting the best deal when buying a property,
and given for most of us is the largest or
the single most substantial purchase we will make in our
entire lives, this is one of those times you really
want to make sure you get the best deal available.
So let's start off with like a negotiation. What would

(01:07:37):
you say people need to think about if they're going
into a negotiation to buy a property.

Speaker 19 (01:07:43):
Well, the first thing is, if you really want to
get a good deal and you're negotiating, you need to
be prepared to walk away. What I see happens far
too many times with people who want to buy a
house is they turn up to the open home, they
fall in love with the property. One part that says
to the other one, I really want that house, and
then that weeken see overall negotiating positions, because then you're saying, actually,

(01:08:04):
we're just gonna We're willing to keep increasing our bid
or increasing our offer to be able to get the
house without being prepared to walk away. And I think
that falling in love with the house kind of syndrome,
if I can call it that, jack. It leads people
to say, I'm only going to look at this one
house and there's not going to be anything else that's
perfect for me. And in fact, it's funny that we

(01:08:25):
should be talking about this today because right now I'm
parked up in Mission Bay. I've got my family and
the car. We're off to look at open homes. And
what I keep reminding my fiance is there are lots
of houses out there if we fall in love with
one and we don't get the price that we want,
we've got to be willing to walk away. And I'll
tell you one other story which actually starts well before

(01:08:46):
the negotiation, and it's a good reminder from when I
was about twelve years old, I remember my mother selling
her house down in Harward in South Tararaanuky and she's
talking to a local real estate agent. Now this is
back when houses like two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
back in South Tararamukey. And the agent said to the mother,
how much you want for the house and she said, oh,

(01:09:07):
I'm seeing other houses being advertised around that two hundred
and fifty thousand dollar. Bark And Carroll, the real estate agent, said,
don't compare your house to what's on the market. Compare
it to what's sold.

Speaker 6 (01:09:20):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
This is a really.

Speaker 19 (01:09:21):
Important lesson for home buyers because it's very easy to
go on to grade me, to go onto one roof
to Conto real Estate dot Co dot NZ and get
a little bit disheartened when you see these really high
asking prices and cvs. And I've been doing this myself recently,
so this is a do as I do not just
as I say, but go on to one roof, go

(01:09:43):
on to homestock code dot nz and there are these
really interesting map features where you can just look at
not what's on the market, but what has recently sold.
So I would go through individually looking at the houses
that are selling, looking at the sales prices and saying, okay,
would I be happy with that price, because then you
get a sense of not what vendors are wanting, but

(01:10:04):
actually what is selling. And one other thing that's fascinating
is just letting yourself ignore the CV sometimes. So that's
the council value, our capital valuation, or the GV. Now
remember in Auckland, those gvs were set back in June
twenty twenty one, so they're over three years old now,
and at the moment, on average properties across Auckland there's

(01:10:26):
something about ten percent under CV. But in some of
the suburbs that I'm looking at right now, there are
some properties that are selling thirty three percent under GV,
and there are some that are selling at GV. Now
that doesn't mean that there are some people who are
negotiating spectacular deals, but it can also mean that those
gvs are way off. So when you're going out and
you're looking to buy a property, don't just look at

(01:10:48):
the GV. Don't just look at the arson price, change
your map, filters on one roof, or trade your homes
or credit and said, look at what properties are selling for,
because then you're an informed consumer.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
Yeah, that is such such good advice. I'll tell you
what though, it's hard, easier said than done, Like, don't
fall in love with the property. I think all been there.
You walk through the front gate and you're like, oh
my god, I'll do anything than this place, Like there'll
never be a house as perfect as this. What about conditions?
Are there any conditions that you should be attaching to
your offer? Do you think?

Speaker 19 (01:11:17):
Well, the main thing that we always say is if
you want a low price, and price is one of
your most important factors when you are looking to buy
the property. If in that mindset, then the best thing
to do was have a very very clean deal. So
before you put in that offer, if you can tick
off the LIMB report, if you can tick off solicitor's
approval of the contract, if you can tack off finance

(01:11:40):
and say I'm going to make my offer subject to
lawyer's approval, and nothing else. Then you're going to be
in a really strong position because then the seller is
going to say, I've got lots of confidence that this
deal is going to go ahead. And in fact, my
sister in law who's sitting in the back of the
car was selling your house. Well probably I'm just about
a year or two ago. She had two offers. One

(01:12:01):
was a cleaner offer that was a lower price, very
few conditions on it. Then there was one it was
fifty thousand dollars more but had a couple more conditions.
You know, somebody needed to sell their house, somebody needs
to go to the lawyers, somebody needed to get finance,
all of those things. She took the lover offer because
she had more confidence that that deal was going to
go ahead and she's going to be able to move on.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
Yeah, that is such good advice. Thank you, Ed, and
good luck in your search. Let's just hope that when
you do find that dream house, of course one that
you would still be willing to walk away from that.
The vendors have been listening to you this morning, so
they know that you are willing to walk away and
you're going to be a tough negotiator. Ed McKnight, now
resident economist at Opie's Partners. Thank you so much. Right
now it is eleven to eleven. You were Jack Tame

(01:12:43):
on Newstalks, he'd be.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
Going with still Sharp don't Best their biggest spring sale.

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
Ever, aw Man in the garden. There's Rude climb fasties
with us this morning, Kilder Rude Jack.

Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
You have you seen have you seen those little moss recently?

Speaker 3 (01:12:59):
Because I have the little what are they called the
Tinniola bisileela.

Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
Yeah, yellow biselliella, which is yeah, you've got espaniolare, so yeah,
that's the one. It's also known as the webbing clothes
w Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:13:19):
That's a least sort of glamorous name, really, isn't it. Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:13:22):
Yeah, But it tells you exactly what it does. The
caterpillars make little webs in your carpets and in your
clothes and all that sort of stuff. And the moss
that comes out there's a tiny, very beautiful yellowish moth
with a gorgeous orange headdo which its retely true. And
I used to see them in the Netherlands because they

(01:13:44):
were there too, mucking around in clothes and things like that.
But when you think about it, why does the moss
start specializing starting to eat your clothes. Yeah, well it's
very simple. If you have you ever eaten keratin h I.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
Mean not that I know of, I mean keratins and
here right, that's right, yeah, and it's.

Speaker 4 (01:14:07):
And it's in wool, and it's in say sheets things,
you know what I mean. So when an animal dies
in the forest, there's always something there that will clean
the corpse and that you know what I mean. And
this is the specialist that does all the carat and
type stuff. So they came into our houses a long
long time ago said, looked, there's a dead sheep on

(01:14:28):
the floor, and you don't worry about the thing. I'll
clean this up for you. I'll clean this up for
you real quick. And that's exactly what happened.

Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
The problem is that you hit don't have well actually
I don't want to speak for you, Rode, but most
of us don't have did sheep lying around in our
land rooms. We instead might have some wool carpets.

Speaker 4 (01:14:45):
Well, that's the point. So it is an absolute great
adaptation from those little moths. And Julie usually finds them
when she finds at this time of the evidence in
a fancy clothes cupboard. You know, I immediately get the question,
when's the last time you sprayed their favorite.

Speaker 5 (01:15:02):
Habitat do something?

Speaker 19 (01:15:06):
So what I do?

Speaker 4 (01:15:07):
Then, Z I go to Safe Works, which is a
company that is a safety company in Auckland crostis in Wellington,
and they had a wonderful aerosol ken which contains of
pro retroy, which I actually worked on when I was
younger at the Ministry of Anger and fisheads. Oh no, sorry,
math whatever, And yeah, we were working on forensis spraying

(01:15:27):
aircraft with a wonderful long lasting material that kills a
lot of different insects, including this one. And so if
you have this particular both then you see them especially
in christ He go to Safe Works. Okay, Safe Works
with an X that's on the on the x alf.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
Yeah, we're going to put up a good photo of
you in the plane as well doing the same thing.

Speaker 4 (01:15:50):
Man, I was only twenty five or so like that.
I can't read by how long? A bit yeah, a
bit older maybe, but yeah, that's what I used to do.
Spray that stuff to stop mosquitoes and things like that
coming into the country. That was a real quarantine job.

Speaker 5 (01:16:04):
So there you are.

Speaker 4 (01:16:07):
And while we're at this, same particular material can be
used to control house borer.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
Oh can It isn't the same the same spray from.

Speaker 6 (01:16:16):
Space to safe work.

Speaker 4 (01:16:18):
It's exactly the same activity ingredient.

Speaker 5 (01:16:20):
Yeah, and so this is the sort of.

Speaker 4 (01:16:22):
Questions you get at this down over the year as well.
And house borer are starting usually late in November, So
spray roughly late November if you've got any any housebor
in your house, and then in December when they mate
and they aches, you'll have them down before they think
of anything else.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
Fantastic. Okay, thank you so much for you're very good. Yeah,
you can get to get rid of two unwanted house
gifts at once, I suppose.

Speaker 4 (01:16:46):
Yeah, for the price of for the price of one aerosolt.

Speaker 3 (01:16:49):
There you are very easy, very good. Thanks. That is
Rude climbhouse down man in the garden. I'm going to
make sure we put those photos up on the news talks.
He'd be website as well, alongside all of Rude's tips
for getting rid of them at your place and safe works.
It's safe x is the one that he has that

(01:17:09):
really reckons has that really effective product. I was saying
in the show how amazing it is to be broadcasting
from New York and enjoying all of the various culinary
delights that New York has on offer. The one thing
I am perhaps not enjoying is the exchange rate, oh
sixty cents for a US dollar. So when I got

(01:17:30):
on the other night, went out, had dinner, and then
we went to a bakery that was opened until midnight,
because of course it's New York. Two pieces of cake.
Two pieces of cake cost me forty New Zealand dollars.
So yeah, you kind of want to pick and choose
when you're going out to the fancy restaurant. To say
the least. After eleven o'clock this morning, we're going to
catch up with our sustainability expert. Given the weather is

(01:17:51):
getting warm. She's got her top tips on sustainable sun
block options. It is almost eleven o'clock though. I am
Jack Tame broadcasting to you live this morning, a special
show out of New York City, the greatest city on Earth.
This is Newstalk ZV.

Speaker 2 (01:18:08):
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Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
Good, welcome to news Talks. He'd be if you were
just turning on the radio this morning. We have missed you.
Broadcasting live from New York City. I'm here working for
the next couple of weeks in the build up to
the twenty twenty four presidential election. A fascinating time to
be in the United States. Now before the day, today,
we're going to play you new music from Australia's highest

(01:19:04):
ever or highest selling fear female recording artist. I think
I've got that right, highest selling female recording artist. Yes,
it is, of course, Kylie Minogue. She sold more than
eighty million records worldwide. And this is kind of interesting,
but she has just been named one of the most
influential people in the world by Time Magazine. I maybe
would have thought that could have been the case fifteen

(01:19:26):
years ago, twenty years ago. Maybe, But anyway, she's probably
had it a few times, to be perfectly honest, But
she's just been, let's say, renamed one of Time Magazine's
most influential people in the world. She's got a brand
new album. Her last album was called Tension. This album's
called Tension two. Tension the first album of the Tension
series was really well received, like really catchy tunes on

(01:19:47):
their classic Kylie. So very much looking forward to having
a bit of a listen to Tension two before twelve
o'clock today. Right now it is eight minutes past eleven
Jack Team, and time to catch up with us sustainability
commentator Kate All aka Ethically Kate. More than a good
morning suns out, guns out, and that means that it
is time for us to talk sustainable sunscreens because I

(01:20:09):
feel like there are so many things you got to
think about with sunscreen these days. Okay, so you've got
to think about sustainability, you've also got to think about
getting sunscreen that doesn't bleed when it's on your face,
because there are few things that are worse in summer
than when your eyes sting from having running sunscreen. You
know they're feeling, Yes, absolutely, that's the part. So does

(01:20:31):
sustainability mean that you just have to accept you're going
to have sunscreens that they're going to be bleeding into
your eyes?

Speaker 15 (01:20:36):
To be honest, the sunscreens I have used for the
last several years, which obviously more sustainably made and a
better packaging are like the least bleedy sunscreen because they
are a bit sicker. Okay, kind of compromise a little
bit of the like they are a bit sicker, so
you're may be potentially a little bit paler. Yes, you know,

(01:20:58):
but you don't get that bleedy factor as much because
a lot of that, you know, running sunscreen to your
eye is because suns screens generally kind of the mainstream
ones have a lot of water content and like different
fillers and kind of yeah, a whole lot of stuff,
which mean I can definitely tell a difference when you know,

(01:21:18):
borrow my friend's sunscreen. That's not my classic kind of
thicker paste, you one, it's just not as pleasant and stinging.
You can you can tell the difference between good ingredients.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
And not so good.

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
That's a that's great there, so we can be more
sustainable and we can avoid having stinging eyes. Across somewhere.
It sounds like it's a class line, I think.

Speaker 15 (01:21:36):
So I think it's been like a little kind of
silver lining between yes, in my personal experience stopping to
better sunscreens, but and it has had I've learned a
lot about the sunscreen space just from a few friends
who make sunscreen, and it's said business, and it's really
complicated because, like you said, you're thinking about, Okay, is

(01:21:56):
this actually good for my skin? You know, like we're
putting the sunscreen on, should be putting it on relatively regularly,
especially in our face. It's really kind of an intimate product.
I think about is this good for our skin? What
about you know, we're going into the ocean and we
know that sunscreens can affect marine environment too, And then

(01:22:18):
also the packaging as well.

Speaker 6 (01:22:19):
Right, a lot of.

Speaker 15 (01:22:20):
Sunscreens are in plastic tubes and basically non recyclable. So
like without I'm not a chemist or like a sunscreen expert,
though I'm really I've been diving in unintended to this
topic a little bit more because it's so fascinating. But

(01:22:40):
kind of the key basics for me is I avoid
sunscreens with oxybenzone. And I always get this word wrong,
but Optimo states, so there are two really common sunscreens
because people check their sunscreens and out there are two
common ingredients that and your sunscreen, which aren't really FDA

(01:23:01):
proved and aren't great for our bodies. So looking out
for ones, and there's plenty on the market which don't
have those ingredients. So the main active ingredient in more
s the same we made sunscreens is often zinc zinc oxide.
Even then you'll see a lot of sunscreens, even some
of my favorites that I use say reef safe, you know,

(01:23:24):
ocean friendly. But there's studies coming out recently just saying, look,
we actually don't know how zinc effects are coral reefs.
Actually we can't say that it does or doesn't, and
those terms like reef safe aren't regulated. So for me,
it's more about, like I use sunscreen. I'll have you
my favorites soon, but I use sunscreen like you know,

(01:23:46):
on my face and as a kind of basic measure.
But it's about covering up and staying in the shade
and not actually it just relying on sunscreen, yeah, because
we can't, Yeah, we don't know enough about what does
and what doesn't affect marine life. So for me, sometimes

(01:24:07):
I'll have a little dip and then I'll go sit
in the shade and put on screen on then you know.

Speaker 3 (01:24:11):
Yeah, and it's especially for people who have a complexion
like you and I that's kind of important.

Speaker 6 (01:24:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:24:18):
So okay, so that's a really critical point. Refsafe doesn't
necessarily mean ref safe. That's kind of one of those
things that everyone can just say or sometimes makes things
look like they're better than they are. It's kind of
like low fat, you know, you're like, well, hang on,
so what do you recommend in terms of sunscreen brands?

Speaker 15 (01:24:34):
So I have done a lot of different sunscreen trials
in the last few years, and my top kind of
four favorites back to the Wild that's made in the
South Island, but or some Q Family Goodbye Sunscreen that's
really good, especially for people who are more like sporting
and outdoors. My Sunshine and Midge Sunscreen. So most of

(01:24:55):
those are also in like tins that can be recycled
or reused repurposed as well. Ye and yeah, made by
really cool local people, so we have options. You know,
those are you know, very viable, and a lot of
them much more cost effective these days too. And actually

(01:25:16):
I think when people think about sustainable sunscreen, they think
they just gotta, you know, put this like white paste
on me and look like a geek at the Yeah. Firstly,
like own it. My brother is really good. Actually he
is like really strong colored like zinc kind of space.

Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, like a like a cricketer in the nineties.

Speaker 6 (01:25:35):
Yeah yeah, like you know, we're.

Speaker 15 (01:25:37):
Going to own this. This is our house. You know,
the most stamable sunscreen you know, I think as the
one that we use. You know, it's not sustainable to
go out there and to yeah, be fried in the sunshine.
So using those options, but then also staying in the shade,
covering up and kind of staying out of that hole

(01:25:57):
I need to tan kind of culture.

Speaker 3 (01:26:00):
Oh super, thank you so much, Kate, really appreciate that.
Our sustainability commentator, Kate Hall. You can find her on
all of the social media channels and she does have
very interesting content. Actually it kind of makes you laugh,
makes you think as well. You can find her by
searching ethically, Kate, that's the easiest way to do it.
In a couple of minutes on Newstalk ZB, we are
going to take you from the bright lights and big

(01:26:21):
dreams of New York City to Reefton and the Lewest past,
two of the most beautiful parts of the South Island's
West coast. Right now, it's quarter past eleven. You're a
Jack Tame on news Doorg ZB.

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Well, you can't say we don't give you a variety
on Saturday mornings. That is the spice of life. Our
travel correspondent Mike Yardley is here this morning, and Mike,
I'm broadcasting from New York City, and this morning you're
here to tell us about one of the most beautiful
parts of alter it Or. And I want to be
totally clear here, I am not bagging on Reethan and
the Lewest past. I sincerely think that part of the

(01:27:00):
kind of central South Island and the west coast of
the South Island is incredible. But it's a contrast from
man happen, you could say, just.

Speaker 5 (01:27:08):
Ever so slightly.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
Jack.

Speaker 13 (01:27:10):
Yes, good morning to you and New York. It's spend
so great listening to you from the Big Apple. By
the way, just before we talk about reef down, are
you going to Trump's rally at Madison Square Garden.

Speaker 3 (01:27:21):
Well, I'm waiting to see exactly where we're going to
be over the next couple of days because I'm actually
first thing tomorrow morning, I am flying to Arizona, of
all places, So I'm going to go and do some
reporting in Arizona. I'm preparing myself for the thirty seven
degrees that it's going to be in Arizona, and then
I'm going to a couple of other spots this week
as well. But it's really interesting they've been the candidates

(01:27:44):
have been putting their plans out quite last minute because
obviously they're getting like real time polling data and they're
trying to work out where they might be vulnerable. But
of course Madison Square Garden has been planned for a while.
I've got a couple of mates who, in fact, I've
actually I've got some of my really close friends over
here are you know, very strong Donald Trump supporters and

(01:28:07):
you know, and are really excited about seeing him there.
He's it's funny though, he's been turning up at all
these different sports events. Obviously when he goes to Madison
Square Garden it's one of his rallies, but he's been
turning up at these you know, at NFL games, at
UFC games, so clearly he's trying to you know, get
him with a certain demographic at some of those events.
So yeah, that's that's that's gonna be. That's going to

(01:28:29):
be something to behold. Yeah, and the funny thing is like, sorry,
just the last point on this that people always think
about New York as being a really like a Democrat
kind of town, right, And it's true that like New
York City definitely skews Democrats, but it's easy to forget
how many million people live here and how many millions

(01:28:52):
are actually Republican supporters and Trump supporters. So even here
in the kind of heart of you know, left leaning
Democrat voting America, there are literally millions of Trump supporters.
So now I'm sure he will have no problem packing
out Medicine Square Garden. To say the last, Yeah, Anyway,

(01:29:13):
like I say, we're focusing on Reston this morning, and
Reefton's reputation as a starring tourist town is not in dispute.
But where is a new great place to stay?

Speaker 13 (01:29:23):
Well for you, Jack Post Usa, you will be needing
a beer back at home, so I've got just the
place for you. It's called the Brewer's Night In. And
this is such a singular accommodation experience in Repton. It's
a magnificent new addition to the town's amazing trobe of
heritage treasures. The thing about it, it's like a siren

(01:29:46):
too history a revitalized relic because it was Stuart Monteeth's cottage,
so he was like a wealthy young chap The Alden
reaped him in the eighteen seventies after making his fortune
in the Australian goldfield, and what did he decide to
do but become a beer brewer and a West Coast legion.

(01:30:09):
And of course the Montese legacy continues today. But the
thing about the cottage deck, it has just been so
magnificently period restored, so there's lots of authentic original features.
All of the handcut remove war timber is there, the
brass and copper fittings, even the cast iron woodfire. So
spending a night here it feels like you've traveled back

(01:30:30):
in time to the nineteenth century and there are some
very cool Monteths waiting for you in the fridge.

Speaker 3 (01:30:35):
Yes, yes, of course. I don't think it goes without
saying I should think so despite all of the history
and vintage features, is it comfortable. You're not sleeping in.

Speaker 20 (01:30:45):
Like a.

Speaker 2 (01:30:47):
Are you?

Speaker 13 (01:30:48):
No, not at all. I mean it's very cozy, very comfy.
That woodfire, for example, is just so toasty. But they
haven't gone berserk with the creechure comforts, which I think
is really good because you do want the history to
sing when you were there, and like very thoughtful touches,
like this enormous bathtub in the bathroom, so you can

(01:31:12):
just crack open a Montese. Have we soaken that bathtub.
They've got this fabulous music room. It's such a cool touch.
So they've got this vintage p and O and then
a stereo with a cracking vinyl collection to reel in
the years. But I just love the fact that you
are spending the night or two in mister Montefe's cottage.

(01:31:33):
I just think that is so special and it's only
about three hundred bucks a night. The other really cool
thing is the owner is a big animal rescue devotee,
so he has allowed you to brea so you can.

Speaker 6 (01:31:46):
Bring your pets with you.

Speaker 13 (01:31:47):
If you've got a dog, you're very welcome to bring
your fairy friend along with you.

Speaker 3 (01:31:51):
Excellent. Yeah, that's great. Okay, So what else peaud your
interest in reefing?

Speaker 13 (01:31:55):
Yeah, I was keen to see how the main Street
Broadway was looking, because I've always loved how in the
last ten years or so the movie set Goodlocks of
that historic main street just continue to atom and that
story continues. So the streetscape and Broadway at the moment
is just looking so resplendent. A new arrival, for example,

(01:32:16):
on the main street is step Tose Coffee Emporium and
once again it's very vintagely themed but a really good
spot for a caffeine shot before you hit the trails
all around Eton. Speaking of which, the Powerhouse Walk, which
is one of the most popular tracks, which is sort
of wrapped around the Andongohua River, very cool.

Speaker 6 (01:32:37):
Little update on this.

Speaker 13 (01:32:38):
The Powerhouse is the powerhouse that generated New Zealand's first
public supply of electricity back in the eighteen eighties. At
the moment they are trying to reinstate that powerhouse back
into operation, which would be a very cool thing. So
you'll see the workers there when you take a wander
on that walk.

Speaker 3 (01:32:59):
Yeah nice, Okay, So heading into Lewis Pass then kind
of inland. What is so distinctive about the Maruya hot poles.

Speaker 13 (01:33:08):
Yes, well, if you're looking for a wellness break on
the West coast, I think Maruya is fantastic. The wood
actually translates from Malori as shelter or comfortable place Maruria,
and man, it's just so perfectly named because a bit
like Hannah Springs. It was first used by Maori Ponamu
traders to sue their aches and wounds while hauling stone

(01:33:31):
across the path, but nowadays it's a magnificent hot springs
retreat and unlike the hurly burly of Hannah Springs, if
you're wanting something a bit more sedate. I love how
their hot pools are just so brilliantly elemental, as if
they're just all part of nature. And then you've got
plunge pools and saunas and steam rooms, really good on

(01:33:51):
site dining, but it's the sweet solitude of that location
or beech forests and beefy mountains. You can't beat it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:59):
I remember when we were kids in my family, my
parents took us there and we stayed a night there
and it just snow just a little bit when we
were on the high holes. It was the most amazing experience.
Its Yeah, so can you can you just purchase like
a day pass to visit Maria?

Speaker 6 (01:34:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:34:17):
I was really intrigued by this check So yeah, I mean,
I've got some really good accommodation options whether you want
swanky or cheap and cheerful. You can actually just camp
there if you want. But if you just want to
have a quick devil, yeah, you can buy a three
hour path which gives you access to those mineral rich
hot pools and also the sauna. The coursing about that
spring water, by the way, the GEO them will sprint water.

(01:34:38):
It spurits out of the Earth. It's fifty six degrees
celsius after being heated.

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
Up by the Earth's core.

Speaker 13 (01:34:45):
So they then call it down because obviously that's too hot.
You know, they have a soaken so they call it
down to thirty seven to forty two degrees in those
hot pools, which is quite hot enough. I think, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 3 (01:34:57):
I agree with you on that. What about like the
lewest Pass Wilderness, because the bush yavia is incredible.

Speaker 13 (01:35:03):
There are some really good walks nearby, a so many
jack and I mean, I think I've been guilty of this.

Speaker 6 (01:35:09):
I just ripping through the Lewis Pass without.

Speaker 13 (01:35:11):
Stopping a lot of times. But if you do want
to have a bit of a ramble, the Marula River
trailer is a cracker for those wide angle alpine views.
If you want to head into the forest just off
Lewis Pass Highway. The Waterfall Creek Walk is a short
and sweet forty minute family favorite, and the BirdLife in

(01:35:32):
Lewis Pass is prolific. I would suggest you strike out
on Rough Creek Track, which starts right on the side
of the highway. Every time I have done this track,
within ten minutes, I've had chirpy South Island Robin's side
up to me like sidekicks on the track. So if
you want a Robin Rondevous, the Rough Creek Track is

(01:35:56):
a sure bet.

Speaker 5 (01:35:57):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (01:35:58):
Yeah, so good. Hey, I don't know why I didn't
think of this earlier, but yeah, there is something that
of course connects that part of the world in the
Lewis Pass with the part of the world that i'm
broadcasting from this morning. A certain figure in New Zealand history.
Can you think of anyone off the top of your head.
I'm very much putting you on the spot here.

Speaker 13 (01:36:17):
Reefed in New York City. No, you'll have to help
me here, Jack.

Speaker 3 (01:36:21):
Okay, Okay, So it is reefed, and technically it's Crushington,
which is just outside of Reefton. But I mean, I
think even that the fine locals of Reefton would agree
that Crushington is Reefed and it's a suburb of Reefton.
So you might have even noticed a statue on the
way into town, have you seen that? Yes, yes, yes,

(01:36:41):
Jack Lovelock nineteen ten. Yep, and very sadly, of course,
he died at a subway station in Brooklyn, New York.

Speaker 13 (01:36:50):
So there you go as one cracking connection you've just
reached up here.

Speaker 5 (01:36:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:36:56):
Yeah, I'm a bit of a I'm a bit of
a Jack love Lock nerd. I'm a nerd for love stuff.
And so yeah, because he died Church Avenue subway station
in Brooklyn, and yeah, yeah, so do you go a
little little connection there? In nineteen ten he was born
in Crushington, just outside of Reef and went on, of
course to win Golden the fifteen hundred.

Speaker 13 (01:37:16):
How may Yeah, and just out of Reefdon Black's points
that neighboring beliefs. The museum THEA has the most amazing
collection all about Jack Globlock's life.

Speaker 3 (01:37:28):
Oh how about that. Look, we're all about connections this morning.
I reckon if we've put out something this morning and
said we're going to what connects New York and reefdon
I don't know how many how many listens would have
got there, I mean the reef and locals would have
to disqualify them. That'll get it immediately. But yeah, hey,
thank you so much, Mike. We're going to make sure
that all of Mike's tips on visiting Reefton and Lewis
Pas are up and available at newstalk SEB dot co

(01:37:50):
dot nz. It is just coming up to eleven thirty
Jason Pine with his plans for weekend sport next.

Speaker 1 (01:38:00):
Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack Team
on News Talks, EDB.

Speaker 5 (01:38:09):
On Your.

Speaker 3 (01:38:16):
Me Tell me Again twenty eight minutes to twelve on
News Stories. But you were Jack Table. I said this
time last week that I was preparing to go to

(01:38:37):
Auckland FC's opening game. Jason Pine was calling the game,
of course, and piney, I've got a report back. Yes,
it was an amazing experience, Like I just thought, the
organizers of the club everyone nailed it, absolutely nailed it.
It was perfect. It was so much fun. The atmosphere
was fantastic, but just real family fun as well. Like

(01:38:58):
we took along our boy. We went with some friends,
all of their kids as well, they had the big
bouncy castle slide down the embankment. You could get like
a box of milk and a little mini cookie time
for a dollar, so the kids were fueling up on that.
There were all sorts of interactive things and then of
course all condeft see one. So it was it was remarkable.
I just hope they can maintain that momentum and that

(01:39:20):
kind of experience for the rest of the season, because
they reckon if they will. If they do, they're going
to continue having really really good crowds like they did
last weekend. Was that your experience too? Exactly?

Speaker 21 (01:39:29):
It's it's as though you've read my notes. That's exactly
what I wrote down, as well as how good it
was in all areas. Yes, they won the game, that
was important, so on the grass they got the two
nil win, they got the clean sheet, they got off
to a winning star. But you're so right, Jack off
the park, the atmosphere created by everybody who turned up,
and it was I just loved it. And there were
the A list celebrities up in the corporate areas, you know,

(01:39:51):
and then there were as you mentioned, the families and
football fans down on the stands and then of course
the act of support the port behind the goal at
one end they added their own layer of real excitement
to the whole thing. I just thought it was a
home run. Wrong sport, I know, but I just thought
they did a terrific job. They built it this football club,
and people came and you know, if you went to

(01:40:13):
that last week, you'd be saying, Okay, when's my next
chance to go?

Speaker 14 (01:40:16):
Look.

Speaker 21 (01:40:16):
I don't know whether they'll get twenty five thousand there tomorrow,
but I reckon they'll get another good crowd and they've
started off on the right foot. So yeah, long may
that continue. It's been been far too long since we
had professional football in Auckland.

Speaker 3 (01:40:28):
Well, speaking of things continuing for long time's fingers cross
and for football fans in particular Chris Wood now the
second highest scorer in the Premier League this season. I know, Harland,
it's crazy, isn't it.

Speaker 21 (01:40:41):
He is just in a rich vein of form, and
actually not Ingham Forest should be very thankful for Chris
Wood because I don't think it's anybody else on that
roster who actually can score goals, but now he's doing
an amazing job. You're right, only Earling Harland has scored
more goals in the Premier League this season than Chris Wood.
It's a remarkable sentence to say, but look, he's just
I don't know, I don't want to use too many cliches,

(01:41:02):
but he is aging like a fine wine. He knows
what his game is about. He's scored different types of goals.
He is a very very very good Premier League striker
these days, Chris Wood, and again long may that continue.

Speaker 3 (01:41:17):
So my hot take on Chris Wood is that he
is one. He is a moneyball kind of player. You
remember that movie about those baseball players who are really
good but then maybe not necessarily the flashiest or whatever.
He is a guy who gets on base or does
the equivalent in football, right, Like he just there's something
about his positional play. He's big, he's fast enough, he's

(01:41:37):
certainly strong, and he's really calm in front of goal.
It is just so good for New Zealand football fans
to see him doing so well to India. So this
time last week we were kind of remarking on what
was a pretty extraordinary situation for the black Caps, and
things have only got crazier. Dere I suggest today could
be the day could be the day touching Wood obviously,

(01:42:00):
that the black Caps record and historic Test series victory
in India.

Speaker 21 (01:42:06):
Yeah, I think you dare suggest it. I think you
can't suggest it. And speaking of sentences, we never thought
we'd say Mitchell sant Na has bold New Zealand into
a when in position.

Speaker 3 (01:42:15):
Who would have thought.

Speaker 21 (01:42:16):
You know, he's never taken more than three wickets in
a Test innings before. He took seven for yesterday, the
eighth equal best figures ever by a New Zealand bowler
in our history of Test cricket.

Speaker 3 (01:42:27):
Incredible.

Speaker 21 (01:42:27):
And then I think the way we batted, and Tom
Latham in particular, the positivity he brought. What we're three
hundred ahead, Jack five down, there are still three days
to go. I mean, even if they're not going to
but even if they declared now three hundred's hard to chase,
they could get another you know, Phillips is in blundles
and if Phillips gets a quick you know, thirty or forty,
all of a sudden we're three.

Speaker 3 (01:42:48):
Hundred and fifty ahead.

Speaker 21 (01:42:49):
Plenty of time left on a turning pitch with Santa obviously,
but also Pateel, Phillips and Ravendra.

Speaker 3 (01:42:55):
If needed.

Speaker 21 (01:42:56):
We are in an amazing position. You know, we've played
this is the thirteenth Test series we've played in India.
We've lost eleven of them, eleven of the series of
the previous twelve. So it's not asself. We've got close
to even drawing his series from done that once. So
to be on the verge of winning one utterly historic.

Speaker 3 (01:43:15):
Yeah, yeah, it is amazing. Like I said, I just
wanted to get to hear myself, but you know, here's
a cricket van it is. Yeah, it's just so good.
So what's on the show this afternoon?

Speaker 21 (01:43:23):
I'm going to talk to Scott Styrus about the cricket
because you're keen to unpack that. And on the rugby,
Tony Brown leads us off after midday, one of our
great rugby minds these days, of course behind enemy lines
with South Africa. So Tony Brown after midday, Murray mixed
it after one and lots of chat this afternoon about
rugby and cricket.

Speaker 3 (01:43:40):
Superb. Yeah, looking forward to that. I shouldn't be asking
you what's on the show. I should be asking you
what's not on the show. Because it is another amazing
weekend of sport. Thank you, sir. Jason Pie will be
with us for weekend sport. He's behind the mic right
after the midday news and don't forget, of course that
news Talks he be is going to have a live
coverage of the All Blacks Japan from just after six
o'clock this evening. Right now it is twenty three minutes
to twelve. New music for you from Kylie Minogue before midday.

Speaker 2 (01:44:04):
No bit of way to kick off your weekend. Then
with Jack.

Speaker 1 (01:44:06):
Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay and bepured dot co dot
Nz for high quality.

Speaker 2 (01:44:11):
Supplements Used Talks MB.

Speaker 3 (01:44:16):
Twenty to twelve one News Talks VU with Jack Tayne.
This morning Katherine Rains our book reviewers here with her
two picks for the long weekend. Go to Catherine Morning Jack.
So let's begin with The Waiting by Michael Connelly.

Speaker 20 (01:44:31):
So this is the sixth in a spin off series
he has about Renee Ballad, and it's a spin off
of the Harry Bosch stories. And Harry makes an appearance
in this and Rene's a volunteer in the in the
LA Department's Open So Open Unsolved unit. And Harry's now
in his seventies and he's dealing with some serious health issues,
but him and Ballad are still friends, and the book

(01:44:52):
also brings in Bosher's daughter, Maddie, who's an LAPD officer
and in the waiting. There are three major investigations at play,
beginning with when Rene's outsurfing and she returns to her
car and discovers her department badge, gun, and ID card
have been stolen while she's been out on the water,
and it presents all sorts of problems for her. She'll

(01:45:12):
take serious heat if she reports the theft, and so
she decides that there's only one option, and that's to
turn to Harry to help her track down her valuables
and catch the guy who took them. And at the
same time, the open unsolved unit has uncovered this fresh
evidence suggesting that a long dominant serial killer, a guy
called the Pillowcase rapist, could be a superior court judge,

(01:45:33):
and of course that case requires some very delicate handling
and will put her unit in the whole department right
in the spotlight. And then Harry's daughter, Maddie, who's a
patrol officer as I mentioned, joins the team after stumbling
on some explosive evidence relating to this black Dahlia killing
back in nineteen forty seven, and it's one of the
most famous unsolvedveriders in the history of Los Angeles. So

(01:45:54):
you get all of these investigations going on and all
of these things going in, these subplots and investigations, and
it's really vintage Colony with those great subplots and lots
of suspense, and the store is all tiring together. And yeah,
he takes you deep in and it's a great read,
of course from Michael Colony.

Speaker 3 (01:46:11):
Yeah, of course, of course. Okay, that's The Waiting by
Michael Thornley. Next up The House We Grew Up In
by Lisa Juel.

Speaker 20 (01:46:19):
So this follows the Bird family through the years and
alluding to why they might be also estranged with each other.
And it's set partially in the present day and partially
in the past and spans thirty years, and those intervening
years are told on alternative chapters by members of the
Bird family and each of fighting their own demons to
build up this picture of the past. And then the
first time you go right back to the beginning of

(01:46:41):
their story, to this very sunny Easter Sunday in nineteen
eighty one. This Cotswell College, full of love and laughter,
and then all of a sudden you're in the present
day where they're back together again for the first time
in years, and there's the guilt and separation and bitterness
and you know what tore them apart in this heartbreak
and secrets. And the story mainly follows the mother, Lorelei

(01:47:02):
and her daughter Megan bird the most. And Laura, in
her children's eyes, was full of love and surprises, but
there's lots of red flags in the air, so she
wants to keep every single piece of her children's art,
and then she keeps items that are broken and useless,
and all of a sudden, her collections become piles of
stuff and more stuff, and the house that they grew
up and is no longer the house that they remember.
And is Meghan, who tries to be the exact opposite

(01:47:23):
of her mum, who hoards, and she lives in this
home that's spotless, without any clatteral mess. And then there's Death,
who's often invisible as the middle daughter, and she's on
this constant journey to find herself. And there's a study
and how tragedy affects everyone differently and causes these ripple
effects that take years to recover from. And so you
have the story that deals with death and trauma and
mental illness, but most of all about relationships and about family.

Speaker 16 (01:47:47):
And what ties them all together.

Speaker 3 (01:47:49):
Oh super okay, that sounds really good. Thank you very much, Catherine.
That's the House We Grew Up In by Lisa Juwell.
Catherine's first book. The latest one from Michael Connolly is
The Waiting And if you're wondering about either of those,
all of the information about those books will be at Newstoroks.
He'd b dot co dot nz Fords slash Jack Right.
Kylie Minogue has just been named one of Time Magazine's

(01:48:11):
People of the Year for twenty twenty four. She has
sold eighty million records worldwide, and her latest one has
just been released. It's called Tension two and we're gonna
have a listen in a couple of minutes. It's called
it a twelve one news talks.

Speaker 1 (01:48:24):
He'd be as the election, he tough, it's Saturday Mornings
with Jacktame with b fewer dot co dot it's for
high quality supplements used talks.

Speaker 2 (01:48:33):
He'd be.

Speaker 9 (01:48:42):
Let me thank you on Mino Scus Fine.

Speaker 11 (01:48:55):
School.

Speaker 3 (01:49:03):
That is Midnight Ride. It's by Kylie Minogue. It features
allvill Peck and dip Low. Kylie has just released a
new album called Tension two. In our music review as Stale,
Clifford has been listening Gilda, if.

Speaker 22 (01:49:17):
You would believe it, Jack, that's actually one of the
slightly slower tracks on the album.

Speaker 2 (01:49:23):
And I reckon.

Speaker 22 (01:49:24):
All the peck kind of makes me think a little
bit Elvis with that basic vocals.

Speaker 14 (01:49:29):
And remember that song about roses she sang with Nick Cave,
you know.

Speaker 22 (01:49:35):
That creepy yeah weld roses or whatever it was, like,
it kind of has that tone about it, and for
some reason that just works for Kylie.

Speaker 2 (01:49:44):
So here we go.

Speaker 22 (01:49:46):
This is one of those albums where we are just
all gonna be unabatteredly club loving Kylie fans, So.

Speaker 14 (01:49:53):
Just let your dance guard down and go where it is.
I Reckon It's like a DJ got up on the decks.

Speaker 22 (01:50:01):
They put the spin speed at one hundred and thirty
beeks per minute, cranked up the bass, we all gulped
down our Kylie prosecco, and we just, you know, danced
the night away. That's that's pretty much what this album
is delivering. It has ended up being a sequel album.
So last year her album Tension came out. I think
it was gonna be like a deluxe re release with

(01:50:23):
two or three new songs on it, but she felt
like she had more club stuff and dancing to do,
so it became this whole full sequel album, and I'm like,
I feel like only Kylie could be the person to
get away with this, and we all go, Okay, I'll
grab my sequence and let's just go here. I think,
unlike a lot of pop music, Tension and then Tension too,

(01:50:46):
they're not really they're not delving from a personal experience
or sharing any sort of emotion, you know, like they're
just some of the lyrics you're a little bit like
that's kind of cooky and crazy.

Speaker 14 (01:50:57):
But also it's very struttable.

Speaker 22 (01:51:00):
So I don't think. I don't think there's any need
to overanalyze too much of it.

Speaker 14 (01:51:06):
Because it's just fun.

Speaker 22 (01:51:07):
Like this week, I actually just needed something fun to listen,
and Kylie came and answered my prayers, and I feel
like I've just enjoyed this way more than I think
I realized.

Speaker 14 (01:51:17):
I kind of was going to.

Speaker 22 (01:51:19):
There's some really great intro riffs someone for me, which
is we're going to play a little bit of soon.
There's actually the starting riff that makes me think of
another song. I can't think what it is, but I
think that is the whole disco pop synth kind of thing.

Speaker 14 (01:51:32):
It sort of does that. There's a great song called
Edge of Saturday Night.

Speaker 22 (01:51:36):
If you're going out tonight, there's the tune you need
to put on beforehand. It's a co lab with the
Blessed Madonna, and those co labs are really working for her.
There's Tove low bb Rexa. The CEA song will be
familiar to a lot of people because it's been out
for a while. To me, that sounds more like a
CEA song than anything to do with kylele Minogue. It's

(01:51:56):
at the very end of the album, so it's kind
of an interesting choice to end with. But again her
cares she's haming up with these amazing artists, which again
just spreads out that fandom for her. Yeah, yeah, which
I think is great, and she's She's just had an
interview with Kellie Clarkson and they both talked about how
it's really cool at their gigs when they get those
younger fans now being like Oh my gosh, that new

(01:52:18):
song Locomotion is.

Speaker 14 (01:52:19):
So cool and we all go, oh no, if you're
real old. But also like, isn't that great. It's like
this whole cyclic thing and I love that too. Obviously.

Speaker 22 (01:52:31):
At her live gigs, she plays this new stuff, but
she isn't ashamed to go back to that old stuff
that got us into Kylie in the first place.

Speaker 14 (01:52:38):
Because she is the princess of pop.

Speaker 22 (01:52:40):
So just release yourself to these catchy beats, don't be
afraid dance, whether it's in your house or you've got
friends coming over in your car. It's a great way
to exercise. And then we'll all be like addicted to
her prosecco over summer.

Speaker 3 (01:52:54):
So yeah, yeah, she knows how to perform a perform
a pop banger.

Speaker 7 (01:52:59):
You I know.

Speaker 4 (01:53:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 22 (01:53:01):
And what comes next though, like does she stay with us?
I feel like she's done this electronic pop club thing now,
Like yeah, I kind of I wouldn't mind some emotive Kylie.
I don't know if he's ready to go there yet.
Will tour next year? New Zealand isn't on the bill yet,
but maybe that will come when she's in Australia. I

(01:53:22):
don't know for now though, Just go for it is
what it is. Don't don't totally sit there with their
critique paints on too hard.

Speaker 3 (01:53:29):
You know, Yeah, yeah, okay, great, So what did you
give it?

Speaker 14 (01:53:32):
It's an eight out of ten solid album.

Speaker 3 (01:53:34):
Nice? Yeah, okay, cool? Yeah, all right, Well, like Tension one,
like proved a lot of people wrong, a lot of
playing teacher one. Just Tension.

Speaker 22 (01:53:43):
Yes, you play this while you're starting around New York
and you're gonna, you know, you'll.

Speaker 14 (01:53:46):
Have a crowd.

Speaker 3 (01:53:47):
I'm going to be feeling the vibe. Yeah, yeah, okay,
all right, you sold me. Thanks, will have a bit
more to listen to. Can't even know it's new album.
It is Tension too, and just looking at it's like amazing.
In the last couple of days, like forty eight hours
of sales, they've sold twenty eight twenty nine thousand units
so far, which means that it's absolutely smashing the comp petition.
It looks very likely that Kylie Minogue is going back

(01:54:10):
to the top of the chart. So we will play
a bit more attention to in a couple of minutes.
Right now, it's eight to twelve live.

Speaker 2 (01:54:16):
From the campaign trail in the US.

Speaker 1 (01:54:18):
It's Saturday Mornings with Jack Team and BPURED dot co
dot n set for high quality supplements, news dogs.

Speaker 3 (01:54:24):
Evy, Well, my goodness, this morning has well, it's just
completely flown by, and not just because I am in
the city that never sleeps and everything is always going.
It is such a pleasure and a privilege to be
back in New York broadcasting and spending our Saturday mornings together.
I'm going to be broadcasting from the US again from

(01:54:47):
next weekend, which will be the last Saturday morning before
the election, which is the following Wednesday, New Zealand time.
So lots more to say on that presidential contest between
Carmala Harris and Donald Trump. Between now and then over
the next few days, I'm going to be traveling around
the US trying to get a sense of things on
the ground and some of these all important battlegrounds state.
So make sure you change stay tuned to Q and

(01:55:09):
A on tvn Z plus News Talk Seed B I'll
be reporting for over the next few days. I'll put
lots of photos up on our Facebook page as well.
Now for everything from our show, you can go to
NEWSTALKB dot co dot In the forward slash Jack. Thanks
to my wonderful producer Libby for doing the tough stuff.
Jason Pine will be with you this afternoon with Weekend
Sport for what is a huge weekend of sport. For now, though,

(01:55:32):
up the caps and we're gonna leave you with Kylie Minogue.
Her latest album is tensioned to this song is Someone
for Me? See you next week?

Speaker 1 (01:55:45):
Yah?

Speaker 2 (01:55:45):
You do you have someone for me?

Speaker 7 (01:56:41):
Like the way hold you?

Speaker 10 (01:56:43):
He's not scared to dance.

Speaker 7 (01:56:44):
You got another make a move, but I like the
way it touches the way you and I can tell
you it.

Speaker 10 (01:56:52):
Happy for your boss, Hoffy, Do you have some.

Speaker 2 (01:56:57):
For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame.

Speaker 1 (01:56:59):
Listen live to news Talks it'd be from nine am Saturday,
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