Full Show Podcast: 29 June 2024

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(01:10):
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(01:32):
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Speaker 4 (02:07):
Jack Team.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
I really don't know what he said at the end
of that sentence. I don't think he knows what he
said either. That was it, that was at the moment,
the line, the death knell, and the crazy thing about
the words that probably best defined the twenty twenty four

(02:30):
presidential election debate is that Donald Trump wasn't blustering or
lying or even being mean. He was being honest. I
don't think anyone who had seen Joe Biden's attempt at
an answer honestly disagreed. Election debates are rarely significantly consequential.

(02:53):
You know, they might give a candidate or a party
a little bump in the polls for a week or two,
or you know, some choice clips for social media or
campaign advertisements. But as much as the Democrats are in
damage control today playing down the significance of their candidate's
performance last night, this will go down in history as
the moment that lost Joe Biden the presidency, the moment

(03:17):
where it became absolutely crystal clear for millions of people
watching live and the billions of people watching the subsequent
clips on the Internet, that either Joe Biden stands down
or Joe Biden will be defeated. The crazy thing to
remember is that everything about the debate was played on
his terms. This was the Democrat's big play to dispel

(03:41):
the criticisms of his competence and energy. Joe Biden took
a full week to prepare, a week as president to
prepare for that performance. His team requested rules around the
microphone being cut off to stop Donald Trump from interrupting,
And yet with all of the prep all of the resources,
he stood there with his mouth gaping open, a sort

(04:05):
of dithering, honestly pitiful, sometimes incoherent picture of a diminished
elderly man. If the goal was to prove the president
had the energy and the sharpness for four more years.
It was a stunning own goal. Trump didn't damage Biden.
He didn't need to. Biden damaged Biden. And if you

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step back for a moment and just take the politics
out of it at a simple human level, it was sad.
I've covered the last three US elections, from Biden's vice
presidential debates in twenty twelve through to his win in
twenty twenty. I was in a freezing Delaware car park

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on election night four years ago, and I've long felt
personally that age alone is no reason for someone not
to be president. You can't say that someone's too old
to be president, but instead that a lack of them
and vigor most certainly is age. Isn't the concern Competency is.

(05:12):
I've taken time to get to this point. Like twelve
months ago, you know, I thought that Biden might be
able to dispel the criticisms and the noise. Now, comparing
that debate performance with his debates from just four years ago,
I cannot see a way in which he recovers his campaign.
If the Democrats are going to win the election in November,

(05:33):
they need a new candidate. It's got to be someone young,
someone relatively centrist. Whatever it takes to pressure Biden to
stand down, they must do it, and do it now.
If you step back, there are maybe a couple of
positives in this. Just imagine for a moment if this
wasn't an abnormally early election debate. That was one of

(05:55):
the things that really distinguished this debate. It's way earlier
than they would usually have them. Imagine if yesterday was
a couple of weeks before the election. Even though it
is an unpreceding situation, there is still time for the
Dems to scramble and to find a new candidate. You know,
it's funny in watching the debate or the fallout from

(06:17):
the debate and imagining what's going to happen if Biden
does stand down. I was reminded of our own election
in twenty seventeen when Andrew Little stepped aside and Jacinder
Ardun became Labour's leader, and you know she enjoyed that
huge surge and popularity. Just sinda mania. It is totally
possible to imagine a world in which a new Democrat
candidate would experience something similar. Can't be Biden, can't be

(06:42):
Karmela Harris. And look, even if a new candidate didn't
experience a just sinder Mania effect. Even if a new
candidate was defeated come November and lost to Trump, would
the result honestly be any worse for the Democrats than
that which they're heading towards right now. It's simple, as

(07:03):
far as I'm concerned, either Joe by and stands aside
or Joe Biden will be defeated. Team ninety two ninety
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send me a text. Don't forget that standard text costs apply.
It's interesting I see Joe Biden's out there today saying, oh, yep,

(07:24):
it's true. I don't quite have the same energy for
debates that I used to have, and Brack Obarmas out
there saying, oh, look, you know we've all had bad nights. Nah. Nah,
this is in another stratosphere altogether. I'm sorry, I just
I cannot see a world in which that performance is
going to be recoverable before November. But let me know
your thoughts. Very shortly. We're going to catch up with

(07:45):
our sport. I get his thoughts on the Warriors Broncos
for Mataliki weekend tonight. Right now, it's fourteen minutes past nine.
Kevin Milon will kick us off for our Saturday Morning
together next This is newstalg ZEDB.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
No better way to kick off your weekend than with Jack.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
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Speaker 3 (08:08):
Thank you so much for your messages, he pouring in Jack.
I'm an American, I've never felt so incredibly embarrassed and
distraught from my fellow country. But what a catastrophic debate.
I am all the more grateful to be living in
God's own says Lizzie. Thanks Lizzie, best opening monologue ever.
Jack totally agreed Jack. The scariest thing about Biden's performance
is that he's currently the president and he appears to

(08:30):
be incapable of doing his job. I mean, yeah, that's concerning.
The thing is I reckon. This is a really good
argument to be made that Biden's record as a legislator
and as president is pretty good. Not perfect by any
suching the imagination, but it's pretty good. But yeah, I
don't think anyone watching Last Night would have had much
confidence in his ability to get through the next six months,

(08:53):
let alone the next four and a half years. Honestly, Jack,
it was a poor result for Biden. But how can
you say Trump didn't lie? You're dreaming. No, I'm not
saying that, Dallas. Trump absolutely lied, and of course he lied.
But isn't it interesting that the focus today is not
on Trump's line? The focus is entirely on Biden. What
I'm saying, he didn't lie. And there was that one line,
that line where he said I don't know what he

(09:15):
was just saying in that last sentence, and I don't
think he did either, because I'm personally watching it, I
had zero idea what Biden was saying. Anyway, Ninety ninety
two is the tech number if you want to flick
us a message. Kevin Milne is with us this morning.
Killed Kevin happy Matadikiya.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
Mana White here, Mariky. I thought you're opening monologue, as
was the listener. But excellent. Yeah, I just I watched
with astonishment myself.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
I mean this, there's scrambling today. The deams are scrambling today.
I don't know. I just I just there's no way
of getting out of that.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
For me like that in the first place, who was.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Biden Team Biden agreed to it. They were the ones
who said, yeah, let's do it. So they dictated the terms.
They said, we want to have a microphone that gets
cut off so that Trump couns are up. Biden he
prepped for a week. That was the result of a
week's prep. Yes, I'm sorry as a fiesco. So yeah, anyway,
it's going to be very interesting to see what happens
from here. But of course neither party has had it's

(10:18):
you know that they're they're annual conference where they're oh there,
they conference ahead of the d NC, ahead of the
ahead of the election. So there is in my views,
still time for them to get in another candidate. But
they really need Biden to come out and say, you
know what, actually I'm gonna I'm gonna be the one
to step aside.

Speaker 5 (10:35):
But yeah, it's just surrounding, isn't it, Jack, that that
that the Dems don't have somebody else?

Speaker 3 (10:42):
Oh they do know, They've got they've got I mean,
they've they've got dozens of people who who could put
together a more energetic campaign. I mean, I I think
personally Josh Shapiro is a name to watch. He's the
governor of Pennsylvania, which is, you know, considered a bit
of a swing state. It's a really important state. And
he's you know, younger, more energetic, more capable of debating.

Speaker 6 (11:06):
It well.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Because the president in America is all powerful, and if
the president decides that he wants to run for a
second term, then the president runs for a second term.
What they need is for people to take him aside
and say, look, you are threatening your legacy in the
most grave way possible, and not just your legacy, but
like the kind of state of democratic norms around the world.

(11:28):
And and you know, for everything that you've achieved in life,
you are going to do more damage than all the
good you've done if you stand and lose. And I
don't know who's gonna who's going to make that call,
but anyway, be very interesting to watch how this, how
this unfolds And Kevin, you were intrigued by another headline
during the week.

Speaker 5 (11:45):
Yeah, my headline of the week was news Herem's biggest
brain heading to Australia. I felt instantly disheartened. Who this
time Rocket Labs better back Matt or Nick Mowbray, the
Toy Entrepreneurs, graphics Maestro Sirian Taylor. No, none of them,
thank goodness.

Speaker 7 (12:04):
No.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
The biggest brain they were thinking about was Burma, the
Auckland Zoos elephant, New Zealand's last remaining elephant. It's considered
unfair that Burma should have to live as a lone
elephant any longer. He's off to Manato's Fari Park and
South Australia to join two other Asian elephants. I have

(12:26):
no issue with this, the Animal's Welfare's countermount. But it's
sad also, isn't it for New Zealand kids that they'll
no longer have an elephant to wonder at? Maybe we
could have bought more elephants over here, and I was
flying the flag for that initially. Then I heard Brisbane
Zoos already decided to replace the elephants that they have

(12:49):
once they die. They say the cost of setting up
a herd of elephants is phenomenal around at a guess
they said one hundred million dollars. Nonetheless, I find it
sad that kids won't have an elephant to see and
to experience first stand anymore. We all did you know,

(13:09):
do you remember when you first saw an elephant?

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Jack, I don't remember when I first saw one, but
I do remember some of the more special encounters I've
had with elephants. They are just the most graceful, magnificent animals.

Speaker 5 (13:24):
Yeah, speaking of encounters, we had a delightful elephant at
Wellington Zoo, Kamal. I once had to be filmed climbing
up onto her by her enormous ear, by gripping onto
its ear, climbing up and throwing my leg over, and
then had to do a little talk to camera. Of course,
once I got up there, the cameraman wanted me down again.

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He hadn't got the shot quite right, so mclimb up
went on about five times that kamal gorgeous gorgeous elephant
was very patient. The thing I can tell you, if
you don't already know about sitting their back on an elephant,
is that its hairs pshit trousers give you a saw bottom.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Did you know?

Speaker 8 (14:06):
I didn't know that?

Speaker 3 (14:09):
And that feels like the other thing you only learn
from experience.

Speaker 5 (14:12):
Yes, anyway, bond boy, as you're very very right to
have some mates around you. We wish you're well.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yeah, yeah, I was at the zoo yesterday. I've got
my yeah, my sister, my brother in law and the
three nephews and nieces up this weekend, which is so nice.
And so we went to the zoo with three quarters
of Auckland yesterday and had a bit of a look
and I thought, I said to them, then, yeah, this
is the last time we're going to be seeing here.
I think it's a good thing, isn't it. You know,
you want you want these animals to you know, companionship

(14:41):
and be happy years as much as possible. So yeah,
I think ultimately it's a it's a good thing.

Speaker 5 (14:46):
Yeah, yeah, I wonder really well, just going on what
there's the the zoo when Brislane said, wondering whether in
fact there will ever be animals elephants left in Australia soon,
in which case that would be difficult kids kids the
other side of the bloody world too, you know.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (15:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
One thing that was interesting for me yesterday was that
it was the first time I've been at the zoo
since I was fortunate enough to travel through Southern Africa
a couple of years ago. And my nephew was really, really,
really excited to see a rhino, and of course they've
got rhinos at Auckland zoos, so that was really exciting.
And they've got those kind of ridiculous you know, those
ridiculous bodies where they're so stocky rhino Yeah, yeah, they

(15:31):
all look like they're sort of you know, playing hooker
in nineteen eighty two for a sort of a regional
MPC team anyway. But the last time, yeah, yeah, incredibly fast. Yeah,
the last time I saw a rhino, it had just
been poached. I saw a rhino that had been that
had been shot dead and just a couple of hours

(15:51):
before and had had its had had its horn chainsawed off,
and yeah, it was it was quite startling. Yeah, to
see them yesterday, you know, see them obviously in a
much better state. But yeah, quite remarkable to think that
people could hurt animals like that.

Speaker 7 (16:05):
You know.

Speaker 5 (16:06):
Yes, I remember traveling through Kenya in a bas you know,
we're going around the wildlife back and one charge the
bas straight into the side of it.

Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yeah. Yeah, that's amazing game for anybody. No, no, I'm
not sure the insurance covers that. Hey, thank you so much, Kevin,
if you want to get in touch. Ninety two ninety
two as the text number. Heaps a messages coming through us,
so I'll get to those very shortly. Do the Warriors
have any hope against the Broncos? Tonight our sport is
with us next.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack team
on news talks'd be.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
Maria agrees with me, she says on the Texas Morning Jack,
You're totally right, Biden has to go. Paul's got an
interesting point, Jack, Did the Dems accept the debate in
order to set up Biden so that he would realize
his inadequacies the most subtle of coups. Do you know, Paul,
You're not the only one to suggest that some commentators
in the US are saying it was so bad, so

(17:05):
profoundly from Biden's perspective, that the only explanation was that
his team had had requested the rules for that debate
so that Biden would finally see what so much of
the world season him. Thank you for that. I'll get
Tomorry of text in a couple of minutes. Right now,
time to catch up with our sporto Andrew's sevel and

(17:25):
sav Speaking of bad performances, what do you think the
Warriors what do you think the Warriors chances are of
turning things around from last week?

Speaker 9 (17:34):
So I can guarantee they won't be having Joe Biden
for their pregame speech today. Nah, that would take about
six hours.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (17:45):
See, is it one of those anomalies that some of
these teams have every so often losing by sixty points?

Speaker 3 (17:51):
I mean, some of these teams of Warriors es, isn't it?

Speaker 7 (17:55):
Well? Yeah?

Speaker 9 (17:56):
I mean this is this sums up the last twenty
five thirty years, and that they often lose to teams
they should beat, and they beat teams they should lose to,
which keeps us watching and keeps us interested and I
think keeps that hardcore fan base that their is going
another sail out to the sevening at Nunt Smart Sonny
in Auckland. Hopefully that lasts through the day, big, big crowd.

(18:19):
It will be a great atmosphere and really crucial game
for both the Broncos and the Warriors. Brisbane's eighth on
the table seven and seven seven seven losses and Warriors
fourteenth on the table. I think they've won six but
the lost eight, so this could well be a turning
point for both teams. I remember last year and the
Broncos Jack had turned up without three Origin players. Jordan Riki,

(18:43):
this dashing second roll from christ Church won't play. He's
on suspension, and Adam Reynolds's veteran standoff he's not playing either.
Similar situation last year in Napier when the Broncos are
way down on numbers, but they still beat the Warriors
and then went on to win I think twelve of
thirteen games and make the Grand Finals. So this could

(19:04):
well be he turning game for both the team feel like.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
I feel like Warriors fans are given an advantage when
it comes to statistical analyzes because every season they're sort
of working out what is and isn't mathematically to the
need to make the exact exactly. You only need these
three results to go our way and then this to happen,
and then on the fourth September of ent.

Speaker 9 (19:29):
Isn't it great for younger Warriors fans they learn mass at.

Speaker 8 (19:32):
The same this is it exactly as I got.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
There's a public service element. So instead of telling me
why why Scott Barrett is captain, tell me why you
think Artie Savia isn't.

Speaker 9 (19:46):
That's a very good question. Hard to put the finger On.
I know why Scott Barrett is because of his crusader's
links and links with Scott Robertson. No disrespect to Scott Barrett,
outstanding test block, outstanding player and leader. But I think
your Blacks have mister beat in not appointing Artie Savia captain.
He's extremely popular. You only had to look at the

(20:09):
launch the other day in Willington, just absolutely mobbed by
the locals. He's an automatic choice obviously, whether it's seven
or eight World Player of the Year last year, inspiration
to not only his own community, but a number of communities.
So I think, yeah, the All Blacks and he's in

(20:30):
a rugby has missed a bit here. I'm hearing maybe
Jack that Scott Barrett won't be fit for the first
Test next week in Duneden. So you would imagine then
that Artie so would step into the into the captain's shoes.
Look fairly predictable across the thirty two squad. I think
it's gone up to about thirty six thirty eight with
players coming in his cover. I like the look of Wallace,

(20:52):
a Titi from the Chiefs. A couple of those barging
runs off the back of the scrum. He looked he
just excuse me, he just looks like a Test match
number eight, big ball runner, big tackler. I know there's
been to talk about Hoskins to you from the Blues,
but I think Wallace a tt it's probably better suited

(21:13):
to the way the All Blacks are going to play,
and in that number eight position a true I think
chest match number eight. Look, the starting fifteen for England
next week is going to be very close to Ian
Foster's number one starting fifteen, so nothing much changes on paper. However,
the way the All Blacks will play, I think we'll

(21:33):
see some differences there, although they've only got ten nineteen
days to prepare, so it's it's pretty dark quick compared
to say a Super Rugby preseason. So looking forward to
next week, will we'll be with you live from the
Cheese role Capital next Saturday morning. And don't forget the
football back on TV and Z tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
I just love in the football this Our entire house
is totally Euro focused at the.

Speaker 9 (22:01):
Moment for and in German. The German take on Denmark
as seven big game on Monday. England Slovakia.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
Yeah, very good, thanks Sev. Get you so in that
as our sporto Andrew Savill, thank you so much for
all your messages.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Jack.

Speaker 3 (22:15):
There's only one American born Democrat on the planet who
could pull a win out of the bag. Michelle Obama. Intelligent, young, strong, attractive, happy,
family swamp experience, global politics, experienced, articulate, perfect, She could
absolutely smash Trump. I have a couple of things with that, Nicholas.
First of all, Michelle Obama, more than almost anyone on
the planet, doesn't want to be the US president from

(22:37):
all the cards. Absolutely hates politics, absolutely hates partisan politics,
not interested whatsoever. I also don't think she's the only
Democrat who could beat Trump. I really think there are just, however,
many dozen other Democrat candidates. They just need to pick
one who are articulate enough, energetic enough to come out
and point out the myriad lies that Trump is always

(22:59):
putting through all of his communications. And on that note,
just once again, I've had a couple of texts in saying, Jack,
how can you say that Trump didn't lie? No, of course,
Horse Trump lied. He lied all throughout the debate. The
one thing I said he wasn't lying about was not
understanding Joe Biden's sentence. But isn't it telling that a
man can make all of those lies in such a
public forum? And yet that's not what we're just discussing today.

(23:21):
That's not the main point to come out of that debate.
The one thing the whole world is talking about is
that Joe Biden clearly has a problem when it comes
to the energy required to be president.

Speaker 10 (23:34):
Zach bludge me, sure, sutch me.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
This is Dua Lipa, who is of course headlining Glaston
Breed literally as we speak, literally, as we speak, du
Alepa is headlining glass and Breath. How many gazillion million
people will be there over the weekend, knee deep in
the mud?

Speaker 4 (24:09):
N nh.

Speaker 3 (24:09):
She doesn't look too bad at Glassenbery this year, such
an amazing festival. So yeah, she is headlining. This is,
of course the next best thing. If you can't be
at glassen Ry best be with us on Saturday morning
on News Talks. He'd be because it's time to catch
up with our film review of Francesca Rudkin for her
picks this weekend. Hey Francesca, good morning. Let's start off
with a movie showing in cinemas at the moment. Tell

(24:30):
us about Inside oh, let's have a listen to Inside
Out too. This is joy coming you.

Speaker 4 (24:36):
Live in Riley's mind, our little girls growing.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Up so fast it should be nothing but smooth sailing
from Hello. Well, I'm anxiety.

Speaker 6 (24:45):
Where can I put my stuff?

Speaker 10 (24:46):
A new emotion? Sorry, we wanted to make such a
good first impression.

Speaker 4 (24:51):
What do you mean we?

Speaker 11 (24:54):
I'm envy?

Speaker 4 (24:55):
That's on we that's embarrassment.

Speaker 12 (24:57):
You're welcome to headquarters embarrassment.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Okay, that is sorry. That is inside Out too. So
that's showing in cinemas and time for the school holidays certainly.

Speaker 13 (25:06):
And so this is of course the sequel to the
twenty fifteen smash It, which we all loved because it
was original and clever and filled with humor and heart,
and it impacted affected everybody. Everybody sort of took an
emotional hit from that film. My daughter saw that film
when she was sick, possibly a little bit too young
to understand it all, but going back to see this
film at age fifteen, she was just nodding along, going, oh, yep.

(25:28):
Because I think any child who's been through puberty and
understands the concept of the renovation of the brain will
understand what's happening here to Riley, who's just turned thirteen,
and the control the skin side Riley's mind gets handed
over to new emotions, so anger and disgust and fear
and joy and sadness they're all still there, but they
hand over the console to anxiety, embarrassment, envy, on we

(25:52):
and her French accent, which I just love, and these
new emotions kind of take over and we go through puberty.

Speaker 14 (26:00):
I really enjoyed this.

Speaker 13 (26:01):
It's a delight to be back with this team. This
film doesn't have that same of emotional hits the original,
possibly because we're in familiar territory. We've sort of been
here before. I watched this and thoughts they've done a
very good job of appealing to young, younger, you know, kids,
which obviously is the point. It simplifies things at times,

(26:22):
But then there's just some lovely other gags which appealed
to adults who maybe had to deal with children going
through puberty. I think probably the most important thing to
know about this film is it is a pecks our film, Jack,
So while we're dealing with puberty, we Riley gets a pimple,
but not her period. She has friendship issues, but she

(26:43):
doesn't get crushes on boys and it all gets messy
with romance stuff like that. So they've pepped it.

Speaker 9 (26:47):
Still quite.

Speaker 15 (26:50):
Sweet, you know what I mean.

Speaker 13 (26:53):
It's still very pexi and sweet and trying to take
this step it the sort of story and advance her on.
And I think it's really going to work because, as
I said, there's lots of kids like my daughter who
saw the first one have now grown up and gone
through uh huh oh yeah when you remember anxiety coming
in yes, so you know it's a delight to have
them back. As I said, it doesn't quite have that

(27:13):
emotional part of the food film, but I think we'll
still be hugely popular in tolerdon Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Nice. Okay, that's inside out too, So that's showing at
the movies showing on Netflix. Let's have a listen to
a family affair.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
This is madness. Hey, yeah, this is your mom and
your boss.

Speaker 12 (27:29):
Do you hate it's weird?

Speaker 11 (27:31):
Mom?

Speaker 4 (27:36):
Sorry? If you can hear me, name the movie. I
want a Teen Choice Award for it.

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Okay, tell us about a family of.

Speaker 13 (27:46):
Okay, so romances have been would quite a romentous coming
at us? Yeah, we had and has away with the
idea of you. We've had Glen Powell's hit Man, which
is playing on Netflix, which is kind of a bit quirky.
We've had the Tennis love Triangle with Challenges, and we
had some fun. We had some action comedy with the
Fallout guy, and I sort of thought, okay, cool going
into a family said pretty good paths Zach from Nicole Kedman,

(28:08):
Joey King, Kathy Bates. I thought, great, this was going
to be some more sort of you know, decent escaped
for some stant sort of romance to kind of enjoy. Okay,
to be honest with you, it's just a little lackluster.
It's a little bit lifeless, pretty pretty familiar plot whereby
Joey King, she is an assistant to a Hollywood star

(28:30):
played by Zach Efron, who does a very good job
of kind of taking the mickey out of Highwood stars
and how they don't live in the real world, and
he falls for her mother played by Nicole Kidman, who
is sixteen years older than Haman, a very well known writer,
but her husband died eleven years ago and she sort
of presently got back out into the dating Wilson's then,
so you've got all these very sort of familiar tropes,

(28:52):
tropes here Jack familiar kind of story and off we go.
A lot of physical comedy in here. There are a
few laughs, but I don't think the chemistry was quite
there between Zack Fron and Nicole Caedman and just yeah,
just fout. A little lackluster, a little lifeless.

Speaker 9 (29:07):
Yeah, but you know what, it's a long weekend.

Speaker 13 (29:10):
If you need to slug it up and just want
some wine entertainment.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
Listen, see you could be an option. Okay, very good,
Thank you so much, Francesca. So that is a family
affair that's on Netflix. The first film the pixarl One
is inside Out too, that is showing at movie theaters,
and of course all the details for those films will
be up on our website Newstalk sidb dot co dot
mzed Ford slash Jack Hi. Jack says, Mike bad debate,

(29:34):
but Biden just mopped the floor with Trump and a
brilliant speech in Atlanta. There's still all to play for. Well,
I agree that there's still all to play for, but
I totally disagree that today matters.

Speaker 14 (29:42):
Mike.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Last night matted the debate, matted. That was the moment,
And sorry, Biden, utterly blew it. He completely failed, and yeah,
it doesn't matter how good he is today in front
of a crowd of his supporters. Last night was the
moment that mattered. Ninety two ninety two is the text
number if you want to flick us the message. This morning,
a delicious recipe for self sourcing banana and pecan pudding

(30:05):
for you in a couple the minutes on News Dogs.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
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Speaker 3 (30:17):
US fourteen to ten on News Dogs EDB Cook Mickey
Wix is here this morning, killed.

Speaker 6 (30:22):
A KYOLDA good morning Jack.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's I'm pleased to hear that you
are making the most of this holiday as you always
do by setting up in Paradise this weekend.

Speaker 16 (30:35):
Look, i am I'm a little fan of Camp Evans.
I never was, but then COVID came around. One of
the great things about that was that THHL, who owns
all the campas, they had to hire them out to
New Zealanders. Oh yeah for three day minimums, which it
never is it's usually five.

Speaker 7 (30:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (30:52):
This is not an advertisement, no, no, no, and they
were sort of fifty bucks a day, whereas usually there
are a lot more in summer.

Speaker 6 (30:58):
They are way beyond my reach. But at the moment,
I'm away, sitting right at a campground, right.

Speaker 16 (31:03):
On top of Mount Monganui Beach, and it is beautiful,
and I love my creature comforts. So I love the
idea of camping, just like the idea of I like
the idea of liking horses, but I don't, And.

Speaker 6 (31:17):
So this is great.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
I get to I have a little kitchen, yeah you.

Speaker 6 (31:21):
Know, and I have running water, hot and cold, and
a comfy bed.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
So but you have all the benefits of camping, but
without the possibility of a leaking fly, the leaking.

Speaker 16 (31:31):
Fly, the chili bin that even though you took a
million ice packs away, everything is still wet.

Speaker 6 (31:37):
And yeah, yeah, yeah, blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
Sounds paradise.

Speaker 6 (31:43):
How can we not be loving this weather?

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Well, speaking of creature comforts, this morning, you have a
creature comfort treaty dessert for us I do.

Speaker 16 (31:51):
I have a self sourcing banana and pecan pudding, which
I'm going to admit to the fact that I actually
bought a slice of something very similar on my way
down to the mount and I we heated it up
in a microwave or sun with custom gelato. But this
one you can make at home. This pudding is gooey,
it's caramel. It's got this beautiful light sort of bananarees sponge.

(32:15):
It's amazing, super.

Speaker 6 (32:17):
Easy to make. Jack throw your oven one hundred.

Speaker 16 (32:19):
And seventy degrees celsius butter a nice, big, large ovenproof dish.
There's no cooking for one year. This serves about six
or eight people. Soak some dates for half about fifteen minutes.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
It's some boiling hot water.

Speaker 16 (32:33):
I've used half a cup of dates, and once those
kind of soften up a little bit, you then drain
them off and blend them in a food processor. Add
two bananas too, nice right bananas, and blend all of
that until it's well mixed. If you don't have a
food processor, you could arguably do it on a chopping board.
Just chop, chop, chopp til it's all a big mash.
That's what you're after. And then in a big bowl,

(32:55):
whisk in two eggs, some brown sugar, and I've got about.

Speaker 6 (33:00):
A cup, but I think you could probably take.

Speaker 16 (33:02):
That down to about three quarters even two thirds of
a cup without that affecting the bake. So wisk off
those that sugar in the butter and that becomes quite thick,
light and fluffy. Adds the melted butter eighty grams of that,
and then throw in your dat and banana puree and
mix that till it's combined, and then fold in one
and a half cups of flour. That's got three taste

(33:24):
teaspoons of baking powder. You can again and cut that
back to but I quite like this with a good rise.
Half a teaspoon of cinnamon possibly in there, and seventy
grams of pecans. For a cheaper alternative, you could use
walnuts of work in there. Scrape that batter in der
grease dish, and then kind of like that old chocolate

(33:45):
self saucing pudding in a jug or even in the
bowl that you just mixed everything in. We're going to
do two cups of boiling water from the jug, about
half to three quarters of a cup of brown sugar
and one teaspoon of corn flour and seventy grams of
chopped up butter, and stir all that together and your
butter will melt in the boiling water and just carefully

(34:06):
pour it over.

Speaker 6 (34:06):
You about it it really feels like too much?

Speaker 2 (34:08):
You like?

Speaker 3 (34:09):
Yup?

Speaker 16 (34:11):
Bake it off for forty minutes or so until the
top is set and that cake Claire will be cooked
through and eat it sort of with I don't know,
cream ice cream, trusted all three.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
There's always the best, isn't it? The challenging that trying
to decide which which other desserts to have your dessert with.

Speaker 6 (34:32):
I know, I know, I know, and so look, this
is a real treat thing.

Speaker 16 (34:36):
But I just think with a long week end front
Zealanders in some parts of the country really need a treat.

Speaker 6 (34:42):
So yeah, you know, take it for someone else.

Speaker 16 (34:45):
If you don't eat too many sickly things, and take
it for them and take it to them and say
happy holidays.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Yeah, yeah, so good. So do I ask you you're
going to be taking a bit of a midwinter dip.

Speaker 16 (34:55):
Yeah, I took one yesterday. Oh an East Coast beach
for me is a real treat. Living on the wild
West coast is may I'm sorry, Oh yeah, of course.
Oh it's so great that white sand that those shells
standboard us.

Speaker 6 (35:10):
So yes, yeah, after I've spoken with you. That is
my little treat. I shall go and take a very
lovely refreshing.

Speaker 3 (35:18):
Oh how good, hey, thank you so much. NICKI go
and enjoy yourself. That recipe for a self sourcing banana
and pecan pudding will be up on the news Talks
EDB website. You know where to go Newstalks EDB dot
co dot nz Ford slash Jack for earthing from our show,
so Francesca's film reviews will be up there. Nicki's recipe
will be up there, and then after ten o'clock our

(35:39):
screen time picks the shows that you might want to
watch or stream this weekend, including a show we're going
to tell you about about Celendi on. I know there
are a lot of big Selendion fans out there. If
I'm totally honest, I do not include myself and that populace. Nonetheless,
you do you no judgment from me, So we're going
to tell you about that show after ten o'clock this morning.

(36:00):
Thank you for your feedback.

Speaker 8 (36:01):
Jack.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
There is really only one realistic Democrat candidate that, in
my opinion is Gavin Newsom. Very articulate, looks like a president,
says Scott Jack. My friends in the US all think
that Gavin Newsom, the governor of California, is being ready
to subthern for Joe Biden. Orchestrating this successfully would be challenging. However,
I agree that Gavin Newsom is super charismatic, that he's

(36:24):
really good in front of the cameras he goes on
Fox News. He defends himself really well. I think he
would be outstanding in debates against Donald Trump. I think
the problem with California Governor Gavin Newsom is that he's
the California governor in that California is a state that
people have a lot of strong thoughts and feelings about,

(36:44):
and his record in California is a little bit questionable.
Maybe Nonetheless, yep, I think he would be one of
several good possible candidates to take over from Joe Biden.
If indeed that happens, It is going to be fascinating
to see what happens in the next next week or so.
I reckon once the initial surge of analysis from that
debate ends and the Democrats actually decide whether or not

(37:05):
they can continue, it is going to be really intriguing
to watch seven to ten on News. Doalgs edb.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
Giving you the inside scoop on All You Need to
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Speaker 3 (37:20):
Edb There are two objects that should never be in
the same room together, Joe Biden's thumb and the red
button for the nuclear codes. Yeah, I mean this is
this is a really good point. This is one of
the problems. If Biden was to come out and say, ah,
you know, I am going to stand out, I'm not
going to run for president for the next four years.
What does that say about the next six months or so?
Because remember that whoever wins in November has to wait

(37:42):
until January as well, until they're actually sworn in as presidents.
Oh what a fiesco a fiasco of their own making.
It has to be said, thank you for that. Text
ninety two ninety two is our text number if you
want to get in touch after ten o'clock this morning. Ah,
a fascinating interview for you with Cozantino. He was named
the International Magician of the Year. But as well as

(38:04):
his conjuring and magician trick, he is a really keen
escape artist and that's really what I want to ask about. Hey,
I reckon. He is kind of like the Austrolasian version
of Harry Houdini. He says that Houdini was a real
inspiration for him, and so he's always doing those crazy
kind of stunts where he locks himself underwater with various
padlocks that he has to pick before he runs out

(38:25):
of air. So he's going to be with us right
after the ten o'clock news this morning, ahead of his
New Zealand tour. Cannot wait for that. It is almost
ten o'clock though it is Saturday morning. For this Mataiki Weekend,
I'm Jack Tayman.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
This is news Dog ZEDV, A cracking way to start

(39:00):
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Speaker 4 (39:07):
News Talk said, be.

Speaker 3 (39:33):
In a good morning. You've a Jack Taime on Newstalks.
He'd be this Mataniki weekend through the midday. An ultimate
master of illusion, Cozanino exploded into the world of magic
on Australia's Got Talent back in twenty eleven and has
since wild audiences around the world on stage and on
screen with his tricks and incredible death defying escape acts.

(39:56):
Cosentino has earned titles like International Magician of the Year
no Biggie, and he's here today to pull back the
curtain on the magic scene. Ahead of his New Zealand tour.
He old a good morning, good morning, great to see
him for having me seeing you in person, So take
us right back. How does one get into this kind
of business stupidity?

Speaker 12 (40:15):
I think looking back now, my gosh, No. I started
when I was twelve. I was a very shy kid,
believe it or not, very introverted, had a lot of
learning difficulties, didn't learn to read until I was twelve.
My mother was a school principal. She's going mad and crazy,
so she has this bright idea. She says, I'll take
him to the local library. For all the kids listening

(40:37):
out there, that's a place where they have books because
now you just go to Google, right doesn't exist, or
it does, but yeah, So she takes me to the library,
and that's the last place a Q you can't read, obviously,
really wants to be. So I'm looking at books with
pictures and I stumbled, by coincidento across a book called
the Encyclopaedia of Magic. I found that out later on.

(40:58):
But the reason why I opened it. It had these
beautiful pictures and posters or famous magicians, and to me,
they look like comic They predate comic books, but they
look like comic books. They're beautifully illustrated. If you've ever
seen these vaudevillian posts, they're gorgeous. So the book's open.
My mother sees open. She thinks, great, he's interested in
the book. I'm just looking at the picture and there's
a photo, like a drawing of a man in all

(41:20):
his handcuffs and chains. And I said to my mother,
what's this. Who's this? And she said, that's the great
Harry Houdini. And she reads his barline, which says, under
the post and nothing on earth can hold Heudeni a prisoner.
And I ask her what does that mean and she says, well,
you know, nobody can stop Eudini, and he would escape
from handcuffs and chains and people would lock you in
jails around the world, and people thought that he could

(41:40):
melt through them and de materialize. And I'm like, oh, wow,
he's a superhero. He's like in the comic books. And
my mother says, yeah, but he's not make believe, he's real.
So that was fascinating. Anyway, we worried a book. We
take it home. She reads these stories and adventures to me, escapades.
I'm very fascinated about Houdini, Howard Thurston, Dante. And in
the back of the book there's magic tricks. But to

(42:01):
learn the tricks, you had to really analyze the wording.
So you you read the description of the trick, what
it's supposed to look like to the audience, and then
you read the method or the secret, and it says
things like grab a packet of cards, put it in
your left hand. This is called mechanics script. So you
look at the little illustration, you go, oh, okay, and
then says put your left little pinky in this position,
and you go okay, And then you write indexing. So

(42:23):
by breaking down each word and analyzing it, I slowly
learned to read. And so it was the first time
that I was engaged and connected because before that, when
you're a child and things are difficult, you kind of
you push it. I don't want to do it. I'm
not good at it. Yeah, So I love learning these tricks,
and I slowly learned to read. And then I show

(42:45):
my father my first trick, which was making a little
coin vanish and he's a structural engineer, and he said
to me he was a genius. Yeah, I'm twelve and
he he makes bridges and buildings stand up using mathematics.
That's you know. So this coin vanishes and my father says,
how did you do it? And all of a sudden,
there's a transfer of power because I can do something

(43:07):
that my father cannot. So that's very empowering to a
kid who is struggling. Who is it has to stay
and at lunch time to do extracurriculum. Who's taken to
all these specialists because you couldn't read because they thought, oh, mak,
there's something wrong with his hearing, or you can't see
properly or whatever it might have been. And so now
I'm in control. And so all the original tricks that

(43:28):
I performed had to do with control and power. Like
I would take a five dollars none and make it ten.
I would eat fire, I made birds appear, creating life.
So that's how it started. And it became this obsession
of being in control, having that kind of power because
I had I didn't have any of it. And do
you think it was addictive?

Speaker 3 (43:43):
Yes, you know, having all of all of a sudden
feeling that that transfer of power. It's oh man, I
want I want to feel that again and.

Speaker 12 (43:49):
Again correct and the better you get, the more powerful
you get. It sounds like some kind of Jedi thing,
doesn't it. But really that's what it was about. As
an adult. Now it's not about that anymore. But as
a child, yes, I'm told when to wake up, what
to eat, when to sleep, what to do at school, sport,
I have to play, blah blah blah blah. And now
all of a sudden, I'm this little performer and I'm saying,

(44:11):
you know, pick a card and I'm going to read
your mind.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
So do you define yourself with any one thing except
for performer? Because it strikes me that you have this
real blend of talents and passions. Yes, you've got the
the there's the illusionist in you, there's the magician if
you like. But then you you love the escape act
as well, and you're a dancer like you have these
kind of these different threads to your performances.

Speaker 12 (44:36):
And all happened organically. I would go to the video
store as a little kid, and I'd go into the
nostalgic section and borrow a VHS tape on Gene Kelly
and Fred Astaire singing there, and so I don't even
know how to answer that, like that's what I was
just this is for dancing, correct. And I would just
watch these, these these old films of Charlie Chaplin and

(44:58):
and I remember the video store guy saying to my
mother once, why is your son in? Why is any in?
Like the eighties action section, look the current action section,
late eighties, early nineties, and my Mom's like, I don't
know you. Just like so I would just watch these
video tapes and I would watch them in slow motion,
fast forward and rewind and copy, and I'd put little
socks on and I would kind of skid around on
the tiles and mimic. That's even that predates the magic.

(45:24):
And then I discovered the book Judini and Escapes, and
then I kind of put the two together with the dat.
It wasn't like this a great genius idea. I thought, Okay,
I'm going to take this dance. I'm going to take
the escapes. I'm going to take the magic and combine it,
and now I'm going to have a career. I just
played around with things that I enjoyed and then it
kind of it came together, but there was pushback in Australia.

(45:44):
When I first started doing magic, I joined the Little
Magic Club. Young kids would go once a month and
I was entering a competition and I did my act
and they kind of review your act constructive criticism, and
the constructive criticism was take out or the dance, because
it's not a dance competition. It's a magic competition. And
I remember going home as a twelve year old, thirteen
year old, and I was really upset about it. And

(46:07):
I was like, you know, they've told me the act
is good, but you know the dance is all rubbish
and it should come out. And my brother, my older
brother who works with me, he still works with me today,
he was like, ah, time to get stuffed. I said, oh,
you know, I'm just going to do the act I
want to do. And I went to Adelaide as a
little kid. My father took me and I won this
competition against people twice my age and three times as experience.

(46:28):
I was doing the act that I wanted to do.
So all of a sudden, I've now won this competition
against peers, people better than me. You're older than me,
more experienced than me doing it my way, so that
set me on the path. Well, I'll just do what
I want to do.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
It's a validation, right, correct. I want to ask you
about some of the escape X because you've done some
crazy things and I as beast you can. Can you
describe to us your kind of mindset when you find yourself,
for example, locked up underwater trying to peck locks while
holding your breath for an extended period of time in
front of television cameras and a live audience, because it

(47:03):
strikes me as being the sort of thing that would
be totally overwhelming for ninety nine point nine nine nine
percent of us.

Speaker 4 (47:10):
It is.

Speaker 12 (47:11):
It's it's very so to hold your breath lying on
a couch, static, comfortable, no stress. I can go seven
plus minutes. That's amazing, it's and and that's not that
difficult to do it, and you can be trained to
do that.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
I can do three having not been training.

Speaker 12 (47:31):
So that's a long time because most people can only
do forty five ninety seconds, So that's a long time.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
You traine stuff.

Speaker 12 (47:38):
Do you push for it like you train for it?

Speaker 7 (47:39):
No?

Speaker 3 (47:40):
No, no, just naturally I can do three. But then
but then I start to convert like my chies starts.

Speaker 12 (47:45):
To yes, yes, but you can push through that.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's deeply unpleasant.

Speaker 12 (47:50):
Yes, it's deeply unpleasant. Wow, I'm impressed because most people
can't do three, but not the average.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
I mean that's it's to do seven. You have to
be able to completely lower your heart rate, right you have.

Speaker 12 (48:02):
Yes, it's under fifty beats. Yes, it's meditation. So what
I do is I go through the alphabet in my head,
starting at A, obviously, and I go through all the
people I know with the letter A in their name,
and then I go to B and I move on
and I go through a whole alfe abad. And the
reason why you do this is you distract yourself from
everything else that's happening around you, and you focus in,

(48:24):
and by focusing and zoning in, you can lower your
heart rate. And then once I finished all the alphabet
and then go into my my I go through my house.
I walk through the front door, and I picture vividly
my hand grabbing the front door and the key, going
inside and opening the door, then shutting it and walking in.
What's on the left hand side, what's inside the vase?

(48:44):
What pictures are on the wall and by the time
you go through this press and even just talking about
it right, you can so. But then doing it in
a tank with the cameras moving around so not static.
As soon as this add movement to it, it changes everything.
And then you add the pressure of going let's say
five meters or ten meters deep and half a hemisphere

(49:06):
of pressure on your lungs, it reduces it automatically by
fifty percent, so you don't have the capacity to do.
And then you have people watching on the outside. The
expectation of you know, the television crew and the network
and people that have come to see it live. It
all just kind of compounds very very quickly. And I

(49:26):
had the ambulance there and they were measuring my heart
rate and I wanted to go into an under fifty
beats for my first TV special. Yeah, and I was
going in at like ninety. It was because I was
just anxious. Yeah, of course, so I started on the
wrong foot to begin with.

Speaker 15 (49:41):
It is.

Speaker 12 (49:41):
It was terrible, but you in that moment you push through.
Something interesting about the escapes too. It's the only time
when I do it on stage. It's the only time
when I'm by myself and I can't hear the audience.
I can just hear my heartbeat. Very calm. I mean,
if you relate to this, if you hold your breath,
you know that kind of calm. It's really odd. There's

(50:03):
something surric.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
It's like it's like meditating.

Speaker 12 (50:07):
Yeah, it's really really special. It's a special feeling. And
when you get there and you can get to that
really calm state, that medication state, it's it's pretty epic.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Yeah, you're listening to news talks in the jec tam
speaking with Cosantino, a hit of his New Zealand shows.
Has anything ever gone wrong when you're doing that? Like,
what's the most wrong something has ever gone?

Speaker 12 (50:30):
We did a stunt called dropped. I was in a
perspects bubble. Oh yeah, perspects kind of I don't know,
explained like a perspects.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (50:38):
It's like a big bubble. Yeah, And it was dropped
ten meters deep in like a silo. It's actually like
a diving tank, a training diving tank, and the bubble
was the same width as the actual tank, so there
was no divers and no one could get to me.
A little hatch on the top and I was handcuffed
chained beally chains, locked up leg irons, and the night
before the TV special, so we set up all the cameras.

(51:00):
There was a special remote camera underneath, there was cameras
on the side, there was GoPros all over it, blah
blah blah, and we'll just take sting everything the night before.
So I'm doing my test run and I go down
and I'm only down there for like two and a
half a minutes. It's not a long hold, but again
five mint is deep. It's and I start to I
couldn't equalize the pressure in my head. So once I

(51:20):
got my first handcuff off, I'm trying to equalize my pressure.
I don't. That's one thing I hate. I hate the pressure.
Like if I do do a water tank escape and
I and it's kind of just on stage. I cannot
do my breath hole much longer. Once I get the
pressure on me me personally, I find that really really challenging.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
Just to be clear pressure as in the ear pressure
from being underwater.

Speaker 12 (51:40):
Wall correct the water pressure. Yes, so I'm being dropped down,
I'm ten meters deep. I start to feel the pressure
on my head. I get my handcuff off and I'm thinking, jeez,
there's a lot of pressure in my head. So I
equalize by blowing through my nose, like what you do
when you're on an aeroplane. And I hear this little
pop and I think, oh great, because there's a relief.
But then all of a sudden, this excruciating pain in
my right year. So I blew my right ear drum.

(52:02):
Yeah right, So of course if you blow. When you
blown drum, you get disorientated, you get nauseous. And I'm
locked up and chained and no one can get to me.
And this is rehearsal, and my my team is filming
it on an iPhone, just certain they know how to
tell the cameras how to film it tomorrow when the crew,
when everyone comes in. Anyway, I managed to get out
of all the chains. This is all on video, by

(52:24):
the way, on the tested go pro footage. And I
swim to the top and they can see it.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
I pop the top.

Speaker 12 (52:30):
They could do something's wrong. They could see in my
face and you can see it on a film. And
so my brother pulls back my hair and you see
the blood still coming out of my ear. Literally, so
blooty ear drum. And we had to cancel the entire stuff,
putting it on an aeroplane. Couldn't do my live shows anymore.
Had to go back to the network, explained to them,
you know the big stunt we had at the end
that we spent all this money on. Yeah, it's gone.
It's not. People Ala say, oh, you've dramatized it so much,

(52:51):
But it wasn't a you know, we didn't aim to.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
That wasn't even a lot worse could have correct. Do
you ever see that show. We're of the same generation
win stunts go bad?

Speaker 12 (53:02):
Yes, yes, yes, please, whatever you do, don't yes, I
know you see, it can all go pair shaped. And
when you're filming a TV show under a lot of
pressure and the time restraints, I just to accomplish what
they really want, you just don't have enough. There's not
enough budget to do it, to do it no matter how.
And also when you do, you're always thinking big for TV,

(53:23):
so no matter how much budget you get, for some reason,
it's never enough enough.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
Yeah, we're almost out of time, So tell us about
the show.

Speaker 12 (53:30):
Yes to send him. It's a celebration of my life
in magic ten years. Hence the name of the sendim
Who Latin for ten and off a decade, and I
bring together a close up slide of hand magic, so
it's all projected onto video screens and people sit opposite
me and we borrow objects, rings, and they sign cards
and they really participate in amazing things. Miracles happen under

(53:52):
their noses, and the whole audience gets to watch it.
And then these crazy death defying demonstrations. My head's in
a perspex box with kitchen knives dangling above my head
and I've got to get out and escape. And then
the illusions people appearing and disappearing and levitating and teleporting
and mind reading and predicting the future. And it's really
powerful because when you watch it on TV, you can

(54:13):
often justify what I'm doing in your head. You might
say to yourself, Ah, it's an actor, or it's set up,
which it's not, but you might say that, or if
I was there, I would know how it's done. So
when you come and witness the show, and you come
up on stage or your spouse comes up on stage,
and I read their mind and you go, well, hang on,
if this isn't set up. He doesn't know me, he
doesn't know my partner. How did he know how could

(54:33):
he do that? Or you're watching someone float through the
air and you're sitting in the front row and you're going, well,
there's no strings, there's no magnets, how is that possible?
So you get caught up in the atmosphere and people
around you are gasping and laughing, and so the show
is as immersive as you want it to be. So
you could just sit and watch the show and observe,

(54:54):
or you can participate and come up and make sure
the knives are real, or that the handcuffs are real
and that it's not gimmicked or set up in any way.
Or you can be the person who selects the cards,
so you know. So it's it's a really obviously it's
a magic trip, but there's a lot of humor, and
there's a dance and then there's all a little light
and we bring all the lighting in, we bring all

(55:14):
the sets in, we bring all the costumes, and everything's bespoke.
So it's a it's a great night of family entertainment
and no one really walks out from my experience, and
with toured just show in Singapore, Malaysia, all across Australia,
and no one really walks out saying, oh, I love
that trick where he levitated the person. What they do
walk out saying is that's a really good night of entertainment.
And that's the biggest compliment. Yeah, because they don't pin

(55:36):
it to just one thing.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Yeah, and I love that. I'm so excited to have
it here. We're gonna have all the details for to
seeing him up on the news talks. He'd be website.
But it is so good to see you, gys.

Speaker 12 (55:45):
Thank you pleasure, thanks for having me.

Speaker 3 (55:47):
That is Cozantino, magician, escape artist, extraordinary, got a big
hour on news talks. He'd be before eleven o'clock. We're
going to tell you about this incredible new AI system
they're getting up for the for the Olympics and a
couple of weeks time. So basically it tailors your Olympics
highlights to the sports you prefer. And you might think, oh,

(56:07):
well that's easy enough, right, So it works out that
you like the athletics, you like the swimming, so it
gives you that at the top of your highlights package
every day. But as well as that, it has computer
generated commentary. So it has computer generated commentary. This comment
has never actually said these words. It has commentary that
goes along with the sporting events, tailored to your likings.

(56:28):
So we're going to tell you about that very shortly
in our technology segment. Next up, though, if you're looking
for some nice light relief this weekend, three shows to
recommend in our screen time segment. Right now, it's twenty
four minutes past ten.

Speaker 1 (56:40):
Start your weekend off in style. Saturday Mornings with Jack
tam and vpure dot code on inzet for high quality
supplements used Talk.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
SEDB twenty seven past ten. You know what that means.
It's screen time time on news Talk seid B. Tara
Award has three shows to tell us all about. Hey Tara,
good morning. Let's begin with a new show streaming on
TV and Z Plus starring Julianne Moore, tell us about
Mary and George.

Speaker 6 (57:06):
This is a new historical drama.

Speaker 17 (57:08):
And if you think the historical dramas are a bit
boring or a bit stuffy, I think this one will
change your mind. This is a British drama set in
the sixteen hundreds and it's about the Villiers family who
are led by the matriarch Mary, who's played by Julianne
Moore and Mary is this cunning, calculating woman. She's a
desperate social climber and she'll do whatever it takes for

(57:29):
her family to survive. And she hatches this plan for
her second son to become a romantic interest of the king,
and the show is about how she schemes and plots
and pulls all sorts of strings for her son to
gain this position of power in a world where a
lot of other powerful people are determined to keep her
and her family in their place. It is based on
a true story, although I'm not too sure how historically

(57:51):
accurate it is, and I don't think the show cares
too much.

Speaker 6 (57:54):
It's just having a lot of fun here.

Speaker 17 (57:55):
This looks stunning. The costumes and the sets are just
so rich and gorgeous. It's just beautiful to watch. And
it's full of this really dark humor. It's quite irreverent,
and just so much energy and attitude here. I think
if you're a fan of The Favorite or the Great,
you know it feels quite similar to that those historical shows,
but with some real energy and sharp and funny and

(58:18):
lots of dark humor.

Speaker 3 (58:19):
Oh good, Okay, that sounds great. Mary and George is
on TV and Z Plus on Prime video. I Am Celendon.

Speaker 8 (58:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (58:27):
This is the new, highly anticipated documentary about the life
of superstar singer Celendion, and it was filmed not long
after her diagnosis with a very rare condition called stiff
person syndrome, which has meant she hasn't been able to
perform for a few years now and she can't sing
like she used to, and a lot of the documentary
is about her coming to terms with that diagnosis.

Speaker 6 (58:48):
And the struggle of not being able to perform.

Speaker 17 (58:50):
And for someone whose life has her whole life has
been performance and music and singing in front of thousands
of people every night, having to step away from that,
not on her own terms is quite devastating for her.
So this is Celene Dion as we've never seen her before.
And often when you watch a documentary about a famous
person or a musical icon, there's a certain.

Speaker 6 (59:12):
Level of ego involved.

Speaker 17 (59:13):
You know they're conscious or protective about what about being
seen in a certain way. But there's no ego here.
This is Celdion. You know, without a scrap of makeup on,
she is raw and emotional. There's some very tough scenes
in this. It really captures the reality of her life
now and it is hard to watch at times, but
there's hope here as well, and it's less of a

(59:34):
look back on her career, which was kind of a
bit more of what I was expecting and more of
a this is where I am now sort of explaining
that to her fans.

Speaker 12 (59:43):
But you'll need the tissues for this without a doubt.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
Oh nice. Well, yeah, sounds really good to see her
in that kind of unvarnished state. So that's I Am Celdion.
That's on Prime Video on Disney plus the third season
of the ever popular The Bear.

Speaker 17 (01:00:00):
Yeah, one of the most intense shows on television is back.
And this is the award winning series about a chef
called Kami who comes home after the death of his
brother and starts running the family restaurant in Chicago. He's
determined to turn this rundown but much love Sandwich bar
into a Michelin star restaurant and somehow bring his staff
with him despite their reluctance and lack of formal training.

(01:00:23):
And season three picks up with the restaurant about to open.
There's quite a different feel to the first episode at least,
but if you haven't seen the Bee. Yet I really
really recommend it. It's gritty and intense, and those early
episodes it feels like you're actually in the kitchen.

Speaker 6 (01:00:37):
It's quite stressful.

Speaker 17 (01:00:38):
The show keeps winning awards in the comedy category, but
it's definitely not a comedy. This is a drama and
a drama with a lot of heart as well.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
And so the leads, the lead actor, Jeremy Allen White,
is he's sort of become a bit of a superstar
kind of over night.

Speaker 7 (01:00:53):
Really.

Speaker 5 (01:00:53):
I know he was.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
He had a fair little success before, but he's really
kind of gone through to the next strata in terms
of success. You know, he's a very much a Hollywood
ay list Now. I might be putting on the spot here, Tara,
what do you think do you think do you think
he's really handsome?

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
I do think he's really handsome. Jack.

Speaker 17 (01:01:10):
Yeah, there's something I think because he's, as you know,
he's quite different and not necessarily trying to fit that mold.
Like everything about the beer is sort of against that
Hollywood TV show kind of ideas. So I think that's
maybe the appeal that he's quite different to that sort
of standard Hollywood manufactured hero.

Speaker 3 (01:01:29):
Because yeah, well yeah, I mean, you're not alone. I
know that he's sort of put up as a bit
of a heartthrob, but of a pin up these days.
My wife has made it very clear that she thinks
he's rather handsome as well, but of a dish. So well,
whether or not you find its stressful as one thing,
but there are plenty of reasons to watch the beer.
Thank you so much, exactly, Thank you so much. That
is The Beer is on Disney Plus. I am Selene,

(01:01:51):
Dianna's on Prime Video, Mary and George's on TV and
Z Plus, and all of those shows will be up
on the Newstalks dB website. It's just after ten.

Speaker 4 (01:01:58):
Thirty, getting your weekends started.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
It's Saturday Morning with Jack Team on News TALKSBS.

Speaker 10 (01:02:10):
Of shooting.

Speaker 11 (01:02:18):
Swell.

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
This is pretty ah. It's Anna Coddington. The song is
called Beams. She's many things, Anna Coddington. She's a musician.
She is a law student to mother and author, a
karate backed black belt.

Speaker 6 (01:02:39):
Get this.

Speaker 3 (01:02:40):
Before she actually decided to dedicate her time to music,
she did a master's degree in linguistics and wrote her
thesis on the way that New Zealanders pronounced words when
they sing with strong Kiwi accents. How interesting is that?
It's intriguing a She's got a passion for language, and
it's always played her like a really significant part in
her songwriting, which makes sense when you listen to her

(01:03:00):
music because she sings in both to El Maldi and
in English, and she describes her new album as her
own take on Maldi funk. So we're going to listen
to that album a little bit more after eleven o'clock
this morning. Yeah, she is. Yeah, that is really intriguing.
What an amazing thesis. I feel like there was a
real transition in about two thousand and two, two thousand

(01:03:20):
and three. I remember listening to Almenop's first album and
it was the first time I'd ever heard New Zealand
musicians really sounding like New Zealanders, you know. And if
you think about Almenop's music, you're familiar with element Pas
music and they're doing like it's eleven fifty seven, yeah,
and we're running out of time.

Speaker 7 (01:03:39):
It was.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
It was quite a novel thing just twenty years ago
to hear Kiwi singing with Kiwi accents. So yeah, look
forward to listening to a bit more of Anna Connington's
album after eleven o'clock this morning. If you want to
get in touch, ninety two ninety two as the text number, Jack,
the bear sounds great going to start binge watching that immediately.
I do recommend the bear, and I recommend watching it
during the daytime. Actually, it's a good that you don't

(01:04:01):
want to watch the Bear just before you go to sleep,
not because it's scary, but because it is stressful, quite
an anxious watch. So I think you binging it immediately
is a very good idea. Indeed, right now it is
twenty three minutes to eleven non news talks.

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
Edby entertain the Mic Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 18 (01:04:19):
I want to a need to have a few entrepreneurs
about the place with news of something bold and progressive.
One hundred million dollar surf park and Autland's been given
the green lights to John Kerwin as one of the partners,
and listen.

Speaker 9 (01:04:27):
These with us.

Speaker 7 (01:04:28):
Mike, I'm going to take you surfing. I'm going to
have you surfing, like in about a month, you'd be.

Speaker 4 (01:04:32):
Out there for entertainment purposes.

Speaker 18 (01:04:33):
Only I can assure you shouldn't need to be more
than just a wave park.

Speaker 7 (01:04:37):
I think you have to now, is it a thing?

Speaker 19 (01:04:39):
Like this.

Speaker 7 (01:04:39):
For me, it's about community. So what does the community
want now? Just can't be for surfers, you know, although
just foty four thousand surfers in Auckland alone, the data
center makes it sustainable. We're very teen to try and
put a solar farm up there as well, try and
make it as off the great as possible.

Speaker 18 (01:04:53):
Back Monday from six am the Mike Hosking Breakfast with
Jaguar News Talk.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
Zb AI is coming to the Olympics. Not a great surprise,
I suppose, given the hype around the technology, but it's
amazing to conser of the ways in which one streaming
service is going to be applying artificial intelligence to its products.
Our texpert Paul Stenhouse is here with the details. What's
it going to mean?

Speaker 20 (01:05:15):
Paul, Yeah, I think you need to be watching Jack
very closely because your job could be in jeopardy here
based on some of these advancements. Let me tell you so,
there's an Olympic broadcaster who's worked over here for both
the ABC and NBC, considered one of the great voices
of the Olympics, and they have managed to computer generate

(01:05:36):
his voice and he will be narrating personalized for you,
a show called your Daily Olympic Recap, which will be
on the big streaming service in the US called Peacock,
which has the rights to the Olympics during the course
of the games. And I am bringing you all of
the big highlights. Well it's not say you the folks
in America. Yeah, bringing all of the big highlights, and

(01:05:57):
it will be personalized. So if you say that you
really like rowing where I really like I don't know, archery,
you'll be getting more of that in your personal life feed.
And they don't even need to have a human behind
the microphone because they can do all of it with
this computer generated voice of a bit of a legend.
That's amazing, scary huh yeah yeah, can I can I

(01:06:20):
go one step further of the factor they didn't even
have to put him back behind the microphone to create
this voice. So what they did is they grabbed all
of his broadcasts from back in the day, train the
AI on that and then have effectively unleashed it.

Speaker 14 (01:06:37):
Now.

Speaker 20 (01:06:37):
Good news, he is being compensated, So maybe there's some
hope for your future check tain.

Speaker 3 (01:06:42):
Yeah, I don't know. I mean I feel sort of
mixed on this, like I can really see some upsides
to it, and of course you know some downsides as well,
But yeah, I don't know. It sounds like a sounds
like kind of a novel use of AI, and from
from a consumer perspective, it sounds odd. Do you want
to say? Kind of good?

Speaker 20 (01:07:00):
It's an interesting use case for it, right, Yeah, you're
going to get to see the things that matter to you,
but you're also going to get it the way that
is going to feel familiar, like what if you were
just watching it on TV.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
Yeah, so terribly interesting.

Speaker 20 (01:07:11):
I'm interested to see what other voices maybe come back
from the past.

Speaker 3 (01:07:15):
Right, so remember that with Anthony Bourdain that was a
bit creepy and that was very controversial when they did it.
But yeah, you're right, you can bring back all sorts
of voices with AI. Now, given the state of the technology,
Hey i am Microsoft is facing a multi billion dollar
fine in the EU. What's happening?

Speaker 20 (01:07:31):
Yeah, so the European Commission has sided with Slack basically
to say that when Microsoft put teams in with their
office bundle, that that was anti competitive. Slack went to
them and said, hey, we've got a collaboration platform. At
the time that was really about instant messaging, and they said,
how do we compete with this? You know people are
getting this for free. We're trying to basically charge people

(01:07:53):
for bucks and months per user. And they have sided
with them and said that Microsoft was forcing office customers
to acquire teams right. It also does not help and
the Commission said this too, that Teams isn't really operable
with any other competitors. So it may have looked at
it a little more favorably if say it integrated with Slack,
or you could easily have Slacked to teams type conversations,

(01:08:17):
and maybe it was a little more of an open
standard or open platform. But they said no, and so
they could be fined up to ten percent of their
global revenue, which puts the fine if they go through
with it, up to twenty one billion US dollars, which
is no small sneeze. And it's not the only time
actually this week, Jack, that the EU regulators have cracked down.

(01:08:39):
They've accused Apple two of breaking some of its digital
competition rules under the recently past Digital Markets Act, which
basically is trying to allow startups and small companies to
actually have a shot at competing against some of these
big giants, and this is all to do with how
you basically pay for apps on the App Store, So

(01:09:00):
Apple was also been slapped on the rest. It's going
to be fascinating to see how much they actually try
to crack down on this, because they really have been
leading in many ways some of this tech regulation globally.

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
Yeah, that's fascinating, Thanks, Paul, appreciate it. As always. That
is our texpert, Paul Stenhouse. Before eleven o'clock, we are
in the garden with our man Rude climb past. Next up,
if you're looking for a good drop this weekend, our
Master of Wine has his recommendation. It's quarter to eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
No better way to kick off your weekend than with
Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack, Tay and bepwured on co
dot Nz for high quality supplements used Talks EDB.

Speaker 3 (01:09:38):
Fourteen to ten on Newstalk's EDB Jack. Will the Democrats
be using AI for the next debate? Honestly, it'd be
a significant improvement, wouldn't it. Thank you for that. Ninety
two ninety two as our text number. It's time to
catch up with our Master of Wine, Bob Campbell for
his best buy this week and he has chosen an
Alan Scott cecerely a brute from Marlborough for twenty four dollars.
So why did you pick this, Bob?

Speaker 14 (01:09:59):
Well, I haven't chosen a struggling wine in a while,
so I thought we were over due for a good,
a good sticky as busy. Well, I should say I
also like it very much, especially at that price, So
that's a motive. It's a perfect stand by wine. Sparkling

(01:10:21):
wine is a perfect stand by wine in case of
unexpected visitors, and with the sort of weather we're having
at the moment, expect visitors. I mean people should want
to get out and get the get that gorgeous summer
weather in the winter. It's also a real crowd pleaser.

(01:10:43):
Who doesn't like sparkling wine. I mean it's so you're
on a winner there. And as I say, it's a
wine for all seasons. It's uh just just the perfect
wine for the for the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:10:57):
It's what does it taste like?

Speaker 14 (01:11:00):
Well, it's a blend of pino noir and chardney and
it's got a really creamy yeastern fused palette that's both
fresh and mellow. It's got a bit of maturity, but
it's but it's got freshness as well, which I like.

Speaker 7 (01:11:19):
It.

Speaker 14 (01:11:20):
It's got a perfect balance of sort of subtle sweetness
you're hardly aware of it, and mouth watering acidity that
that's very refreshing. It really really gives the line a
terrific lift.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
And you reckon it's pretty good value. Why is it
such a good bargain?

Speaker 14 (01:11:37):
Well, bottle famented starkling wine is expensive to make. You
won't find too many good examples under twenty five dollars,
and this is a standout in that category, so it's
just a winner.

Speaker 3 (01:11:51):
Yeah, yeah, where can you pick it up?

Speaker 7 (01:11:55):
Well?

Speaker 14 (01:11:55):
I found the best prize I found was from Whisky
and More in the White Kaddow and it was twenty
dollars ninety nine. Big barrel stores I found a few
were carrying it at less than twenty three dollars. Glengarry
in Auckland twenty two ninety nine is a good price.

Speaker 3 (01:12:14):
So no, yeah, and where would you what would you
met your web?

Speaker 14 (01:12:18):
Well, Canna Pays is the knee jerk sort of choice
for striking wine, especially seafood, particularly oysters. I love oysters
a not everybody does, of course, and it also like
have a good method champ nonoires. It doesn't need the
complication of food, so it's quite on its sign.

Speaker 15 (01:12:42):
And what it keep do you think it's good for
a few years.

Speaker 14 (01:12:45):
But the problem is it isn't vintage dated at most
aren't and so you never know all it is. So
my advice is drawing it up and enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
Very good. Thanks Bob, appreciate your time. That's our master
of wine. Bob Campbell has wine this week and Alan
Scott Cecilia Brute from Marlborough for twenty four dollars. It's
ten to eleven. Today we have Lisa from Beep.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
Gardening with still Shop free accessories this winter at still Shot.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
Tell you what is the weekend for anyone who enjoys
a bit of the outdoors. So if you like counting things,
you don't want to count sheep, you want to count
other animals. Good news the Whale and Dolphin Count. The
official Whale and Dolphin Count is this weekend, So if
you happen to be out on the water and you
come across some migrating whales, make sure you take part
in the Whale and Dolphin Count. But of course the

(01:13:34):
annual Garden Bird survey begins this weekend as well. It
goes for about a week or so, I think maybe
nine days or so. So yeah, lots happening this weekend
on that front. Now, Man in the garden root climb past,
I'm sure will be counting everything every which way. Good morning, sir,
I certainly will.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Good morning Jack. By the way, they're also doing spoon
bill counts here in Lake Ellesmere.

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
Oh, very good, just say it. Yeah nothing, they're not
counting really, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
No, that's right.

Speaker 7 (01:14:01):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Why don't we start counting in nitrogen and carbon for
a change. Let's make some compost.

Speaker 3 (01:14:08):
Okay, very good, Well that makes it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
Do you have a compost then?

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
I do have a compost bin, but it's mainly it's
very grass clippings heavy, I've got to be honest.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Yes, I would expect so. And then after a couple
of months it becomes quite slimy and yucky.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
Yeah it does. And I just shove it out the
bottom and then go and chuck it on the garden basically.
But I've put a few leaves in there as well,
a bit of nitrogen.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, But hang on the grass, what
do you think the grass.

Speaker 3 (01:14:33):
Is nitrogen leaves.

Speaker 11 (01:14:36):
Yeah, you got it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
So you're quite heavy on the nitrogen. So what I
want you to do is go and see somebody who
actually knows how to cut trees and chip it them down. Yeah,
and put those chips in your bin as well, because
generally speaking, and a lot of people don't realize that.
For if you have a ratio of carbon to nitrogen,

(01:14:57):
you need thirty carbon to one nitrogen. That is about
how so too much NuGen becomes really slippery and slimy.
Yeah right, Actually that's so that's quite an important one.
So if you're talking about compost starters, for instance, you
know you can buy compost starters.

Speaker 3 (01:15:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
Do you think do you think nature used to use status? No, No,
I don't think so. If you keep your thirty to one,
if you like got twenty five to one carbon to nitrogen,
you've got to start to basically built into the whole thing.
And I love that sort of stuff. Here's another one
I've just I've actually been doing all the myths. You
can now get it. They're the greatest myths for gardeners.

Speaker 4 (01:15:37):
Crushed shells. If you've got problems with.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
Slugs and snails, you put crushed shells down because that's
of course a very sharp material on which which the
on which the shells that what do you call it?
The oh, my goodness, shells, eggs, shells, you got it,
that sort of stuff. So what you then get is
you everybody says, slugs and snails can't stop go over
that because it's too sharp for them. Sorry, doesn't work,

(01:16:02):
because these slugs and snails will not go on the
surface direct They actually go on the slime that they produce.

Speaker 4 (01:16:08):
Huh, So they're never.

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
In touch with those shells. So forget about that. And
if you then put that same stuff, for instance, these
crushed shells into your compost bin, it takes a lot
of time for that to become a little bit of
of fertilizer, and be quite honest, a lot of years.
That is absolutely the time it takes to literally get
those fertilizers into the system. And on the other hand,

(01:16:34):
you don't really get much calcium and things like that
from those shells, so you might as well not bother
too much, just chuck it in and forget about it. Yeah, Hey,
speeding up composting. A lot of people say you need aeration,
that's right, and we need to turn the heap, you know,
with a fork or a spade, So every now and
then you turn it off to be quite honest, check,

(01:16:55):
I've just done my back in. Oh no, I fell
off the second story of of what you call it,
the double bed you know, bed double bed bug bed? Yeah, yes,
and yeah, so I can't really dig much at the moment.
And besides I don't have time to dig.

Speaker 6 (01:17:12):
And what does nature do?

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
Nature chucks things down and basically it will mix itself, right,
especially the creatures that live under the compost. Can I say,
rats and mice that make tunnels, et cetera, et cetera,
et cetera.

Speaker 4 (01:17:28):
Yeah, they're doing a really good job, there are on
the point.

Speaker 11 (01:17:33):
Yeah, you got it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
So there's so many of these different things. Have a
look on the website that they'll be put together for you,
and you'll find all the things about can you put
cooked food in the compost bed? Can you put pool
in the compost bed? Dead animals, left over meat? Of
course you can, because everything that once lived can be composted.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
Very good, Okay, thank you. Yeah, that device is all
up on the news talks he'd be website newstalks, he'd
be or code on in did Ford's last jet you
get well, rude, hope you're feeling a bit better. It's
almost eleven o'clock, which means news is next. You reject
timet Saturday Morning, and this is news Talk's.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
EDB Saturday Mornings with Jack Ta keeping the conversation going
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Speaker 3 (01:18:40):
Well, how about that? My goodness, you see, this is it.
We're on the cutting edge. On Saturday Mornings on Newstalk's
EDB nine o'clock. I start the show saying that's it
for Biden. He's done, he's done, He's done. Less than
two hours later, the New York Times editorial Board, who
no doubt are keen listeners to Saturday Mornings on Newstalks EDB,

(01:19:01):
come out and call on the president to end his campaign. Yep,
that's right. The New Times editorial board has called on
Joe Biden to drop out of the race. I'm just
going to read to you a couple of lines from
their editorial that has just been published. Quote. Mister Biden
has said he is the candidate with the best chance
of taking on the threat of tyranny and defeating it.
His argument rests largely on the fact that he beats

(01:19:23):
Donald Trump in twenty twenty. And get this, there is
no longer a sufficient that is no longer a sufficient
rationale for why Joe Biden should be the Democratic nominee
this year. That is, from the perspective of the President,
Joe Biden absolutely devastating, absolutely devastating. It's going to be
so intriguing to see how the White House and Joe

(01:19:45):
Biden's campaign team respond to that. But to have the
New York Times editorial board come out and say he
should drop out of the race just five months before
the election really is devastating. Right now, it is eight
minutes past eleven on Newstalk zb Jack. It's the twenty
ninth of June, this Martiniki weekend, which means we are
a day away from being halfway through the year. That's insane,

(01:20:09):
isn't it. It also means that we're about to start July,
and for many kiwis, July is an opportunity to take
a bit of a pause when it comes to drinking.
Dougal Sutherland from Umbrella Well Being, as a clinical psychologist
who's with US this morning, counter doogal.

Speaker 8 (01:20:25):
You're a jack happy happy matiki to you.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
Did you did you catch up with your better half
this week? Bony chance?

Speaker 5 (01:20:34):
I did.

Speaker 15 (01:20:34):
She said she'd bumped into you, or perhaps I don't know,
bumping into your quite right to made herself known to
get her own celebrity.

Speaker 3 (01:20:43):
Celebrity is a bit of a streets but it was
so nice. I was so just for our listeners and
unaware of us I was. I was standing on the
side of the street on Molsworth Street outside outside the
Beehive the other day and a very friendly person came
up to me and said, Hi Jack, Hi Jack, Hi Jack.
I said hi, and I did that thing with just
for a second, I searched her face, subconsciously thinking do

(01:21:04):
I do I know that this person? I'm should And
she said, oh, I'm really sorry. I'm Google Sutherlan's wife.

Speaker 4 (01:21:09):
So there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
It was lovely, lovely to speak with her.

Speaker 19 (01:21:13):
Thank you, you know, she texted me, since you've seen.

Speaker 3 (01:21:16):
You, Yeah, small world. Anyway, Drive July in a couple
of days, and it is a really good opportunity, whether
or not you are participating in Drive July or otherwise,
to pause and take stock a little bit of alcohol use.
And it is just an incredibly stressful moment in time
right now, And it's kind of understandable that lots of

(01:21:36):
people might be drinking a bit more than they would
like to be. But yeah, you know, the stress of
this moment, whether it's the economy or anything else, can
lead to some pretty you know, unhealthy behaviors.

Speaker 15 (01:21:49):
Right, yeah, absolutely, I mean yeah, even without the whole
drive your life thing, it's just as you say, very
it's a stressful time for lots of people. And when
we know that when people are stressed, they sort of
and we can all do this, we can kind of
slip into unhealthy behaviors. You know, you eat a bit
more junk food than you want to, You perhaps don't

(01:22:11):
exercise as much. And the other thing I guess is
that you can end up just gradually drinking a bit
more and a bit more and a bit more than
maybe is ideally good for you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:20):
Yeah, it can be a bit of a bit of
a slippery slope pain. And I think you know, and
I'm saying this from personal experience, like some of those
behaviors are kind of self rewarding, right, Like you say,
I just need to relax or I've got through the
week and it's a reward or you know whatever else.

Speaker 15 (01:22:40):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean I think we often do that.
We kind of justify our alcohol use by going, oh, well,
you know, it has been tough and I just need
this to unwind and to relax. And of course, if
you're using it to unwind and relax and it's more
stressful in your life than you might find that you're
gradually using it more and more.

Speaker 19 (01:22:59):
Because life is more stressful and you do need to
relax more.

Speaker 15 (01:23:02):
And so, as you said, it's a bit of a
slippery slope and it can be look at kevi if
it full to take up you lead a healthy lifestyle.
It takes willpower, and it takes a bit of you know,
it takes a bit of planning and strength and mental
strength and that kind of thing. So it's not surprising
and it's not a blame game at all. It's just
a good opportunity to recognize what you're doing and to

(01:23:23):
stop and have a bit of a look at and
you know what you are consuming.

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
Are there some some kind of telltale signs that maybe
your alcohol use is becoming a bit more problematic?

Speaker 15 (01:23:33):
I mean, the obvious one is that you're obviously spending
more money, or you know you have more you know,
there are more bottles in the recycling or whatever. But
I think some other signs are that it becomes a
little bit more difficult to enjoy yourself or to have
a social occasion without alcohol, or somebody might have made
some sort of pass and commented that.

Speaker 3 (01:23:54):
You know, oh gosh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:23:59):
Yeah, yeah, that sort of thing. Oh, you drinking, I
think too.

Speaker 15 (01:24:02):
The other thing is that you gradually end up drinking
more days than you perhaps used to in the past.
You know, maybe you only drink alcohol on a at
the weekend, and all of a sudden that's sort of
Tuesday or Wednesday, and you're having oh I just don't
have a bottle of glass of wine or whatever. And
that's another telltale sign that it's just leaking out sort

(01:24:23):
of more than perhaps that you would usually drink.

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
Yeah. Sure. So what would be your tips then, for
anyone considering drive July or a bit of a pause
on their alcohol intake. What would you suggest?

Speaker 19 (01:24:33):
Well, and I think even if you know, I would
say too, you don't have to be.

Speaker 15 (01:24:37):
A raging alcoholic to sort of do dried your live
if you were, I sometimes think of it, if you
dry curious, you know.

Speaker 8 (01:24:43):
What would it be like?

Speaker 4 (01:24:44):
You know?

Speaker 15 (01:24:45):
Yeah, then make a commitment. And we know that if
people make a commitment, either by writing it down or
by telling somebody else, that can often help us stick
to that sort of commitment to do a new thing.
So that's one thing is writing it down, keeping a diary,
and really keeping a diary focused on not not kind

(01:25:09):
of didn't have any drink today, didn't have any drink today,
but more what you did do instead?

Speaker 21 (01:25:14):
What?

Speaker 15 (01:25:14):
Actually, how has your life become a bit richer and
a bit better? What have you managed to fit in?
Maybe you've got more money and you're able to go
out for dinner or you know, buy I don't know,
whatever it is, because you had a little bit more money.
So I think keeping a diary to really make it
salient in your life.

Speaker 19 (01:25:30):
What what what benefit you're getting?

Speaker 18 (01:25:32):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:25:32):
Okay, that's interesting. Yeah, So basically trying to have some
kind of third party measures for accountability, right.

Speaker 4 (01:25:43):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:25:45):
Yeah, yeah, And we know that almost if you're writing
things down, you almost act as your own third party.
If that doesn't sound too weird. Yeah, accountable to yourself.

Speaker 7 (01:25:56):
Now.

Speaker 15 (01:25:57):
The thing I'd say too is if you do sort
of cut down, don't try to avoid, if possible, having
the whole sort of notion that come the end of
July blow out, you know, and I'm just going to
make up for it again. That's because that's really just
sort of going back into a bit of a binging pattern.
And and it may it may be that you get
to the end of the months and go and that's

(01:26:17):
a really great time to take stock and go, actually,
how has this month been for me?

Speaker 19 (01:26:20):
What have I learned?

Speaker 15 (01:26:21):
What have I what have I gained from this month?
And how do I take that and go forward with
it rather than just going, well, that's it and I've
done it, and now I'll just get really you know,
blotto this weekend.

Speaker 7 (01:26:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:32):
Yeah, I've got a lot of friends who, you know,
who in the last couple of years have have decided
to you know, to go alcohol free or to massively
cut down on their alcohol intake. And I'm yet to
come across someone who has gone through that and has
said it's been a bad thing in their life.

Speaker 4 (01:26:49):
You know.

Speaker 19 (01:26:49):
Yeah, absolutely, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:26:51):
You know, it's no one seems to have had you know,
regrets when they when they decide to make a decision
like that. And I suppose, you know, an opportunity to
like driver lie actually means that people can can take
stock a little bit and and maybe take a bit
of support from having other people around them going through
some of the little period.

Speaker 19 (01:27:10):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 15 (01:27:11):
You know, again, it's that sort of accountability and not
just sort of I'm accountable to somebody, but also the
sense of I'm doing it with other people, and that
often makes changing behavior easier because we know that other
people are doing it. It's not just us. There's some
support around and I can chat to other people and
that often helps us if we're trying to engage in
some sort of new behavior.

Speaker 3 (01:27:31):
Very good. Now, you guys have got a webinar on Tuesday, right,
so second of July, So if you can make it
through the first of July without a drink and then
you've got a tip through.

Speaker 15 (01:27:41):
Yeah, yeah, we've got a free webinar, so it doesn't
cost anything, and we're doing it in conjunction with a
place called State of Play, who are an alcohol free brewery,
and the founder of that's got a really interesting story
about he's started to drive July about four years.

Speaker 19 (01:27:54):
Ago and hasn't stopped.

Speaker 15 (01:27:56):
But yeah, I've got opportunity just to come along and
here some tips and some reasons.

Speaker 19 (01:28:01):
So if you're thinking about it, the easiest thing is
to jump.

Speaker 15 (01:28:05):
On Umbrella Well Being Facebook page actually, and you can
sign up through that, but it's just it's only half
a now, you can do it in your lunch break.
Just hear a few tips and tricks and maybe that
might be the motivation that you need.

Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
Superb love your work, Thanks so much. Dooglele is Google
Sutherland from Umbrella Wellbeing. We'll put all of us tips
there and a link to that Facebook page. She can
sign up for that webinar on the news talk zb website.
Before midday, we got new music to play for you
from Anna Coddington. She's a really interesting musician. She does
a lot of music. She mixes English lyrics and today

(01:28:37):
or Maudi lyrics. She's got a new album out called
So we're going to listen to that really kind of
beautiful music that will play you before midday. We'll have
your box picks as well. Next up, our travel Correspondent's
taking us all to Warmer Climbs on the Sunshine Coast
seventeen past eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
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Speaker 3 (01:28:59):
Mike Yardby is our travel correspondent. He's taking us on
a trip this morning through the great outdoors on the
Sunshine Post.

Speaker 8 (01:29:05):
Hey Mike, good morning Jack.

Speaker 15 (01:29:08):
I was just going to say, with respect to the
New York Times and Biden, I actually think Jill Biden
holds the key here for pulling the rip cord, and
I'm just amazed that she still seems to be insisting,
he say in the race, At what point is this
verge on looking like elder abuse? Yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
Think it does risk being really humiliating for him, and
for someone who's really cherished, you know, and has good
reason to cherish his record in public life and public service.
I think there's a huge risk that he completely destroys
that reputation by making the wrong decision here. And look

(01:29:48):
behind closed doors, just to imagine the kind of conversations
that are happening behind closed doors in the upper echelons
of power around the White House at the moment, Because
you know, I was amazing to look at the Joe Biden,
you know, after the debate last night when Joe Biden
can managed. He was hosting him with a support party,
and she was like, great to go, Joe. You answered

(01:30:08):
all the questions. I was like, yeah, did he Yeah,
good on you. You made noises sometimes the questions were asked,
but I just, yeah, I think you're right. I think
I'm sure. I'm sure those people closest to him kind
of hold the key here, including you know, his wife
and and also his senior advisors. Because nothing about the

(01:30:30):
performance made me think that he has, you know, any
real likelihood of beating Trunk. And that's I've got to
be honest, you know, that's a totally different position to
than one I previously had. I had previously, you know,
a year ago, I thought he's probably got it, he's
probably got it. But then seeing that last night was
just the detail for me. It was a yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway,
we'll wait and see what happens. I just think the

(01:30:51):
Dems have to be relieved that there's a bit of time.
I mean, if they are, you know, I mean the
better time. Not a whole lot, but it's a little
bit of time, you know.

Speaker 15 (01:31:01):
Just the one till we're lightning to having a newly debate.

Speaker 3 (01:31:03):
Yes, yeah, yeah. Anyway, So, like I said, we're focusing
on the great outdoors on the Sunshine Coast this morning.
And there are more direct services these days right connecting
New Zealand to the Sunshine Coast.

Speaker 15 (01:31:14):
Indeed, yeah, I think it underscores the growing love affair
we seem to have with the region. So in New
Zealand start their direct flights this week from Auckland to
Maruchi door and Jetstar as part of a big announcement
a week or so ago they will be flying the
route from later this year. So the welcome mat to
the Sunshine Coast is being very thickly laid out to Jack.

Speaker 5 (01:31:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:31:38):
Nice. Any mountains take your fancy.

Speaker 15 (01:31:41):
Well, this is the thing. You've got one hundred kilometers
of glittering beaches at your disposal. But don't just throw
your togs in the suitcase, because there are some seriously
seenic mountain trails worth packing your boots for. Two, you'll
definitely want to shimooze with the Sunshine Coasts rock Stars.
Those are eleven thrusting, vertical rocky columns that comprise the

(01:32:03):
Glasshouse Mountains. There are so many you can take, but
my favorite, the one I would highly recommend is the
Mount Nunu hike, And the reason for that is because
it's got this central position in that parade of mountain sisters.
So you just feel immersed in all of that glasshouse
glory when you get to the top of Mount Nunu

(01:32:25):
and it's it's it's not hard work that walk.

Speaker 3 (01:32:29):
It's got a few.

Speaker 15 (01:32:29):
Short, short steep sections, but it's certainly not strenuous.

Speaker 3 (01:32:33):
Oh very good. How about Coolam, Yes, north.

Speaker 4 (01:32:37):
Of Malula Bar.

Speaker 15 (01:32:38):
I'm sure many people who have been over to the
Sunshine Coast when they've been in Malula Bar, they look
to the north and they can see Mount Kolam. It's
like this volcanic dome rising up from the coastline. Quite
dramatic really. But the funny thing is, and I know
Kiwi snigger about this mountains in Australia. Now Mount Coolim.

(01:32:58):
It's altitude tops out at just two hundred meters, but
it's a mountain. The thing about it, though, is it's
twenty five million year old lack alith. You don't come
across a laculithe every day, Jack, And even though it's
only two hundred meters, it is amazing. The perspective going
up two hundred meters can give you. You get the

(01:33:20):
most irresistible wrap around panorama of the Sunshine Coast when
you are on top of Mount Coolam and both walks,
both Mount Munu and Mount Coolam. You can knock both
of those off in about ninety minutes.

Speaker 5 (01:33:35):
Definitely do them early in the day.

Speaker 15 (01:33:37):
Beat the heat.

Speaker 7 (01:33:38):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (01:33:39):
Okay, that's even in winter, you reckon. That's a key
or maybe might not be so bad this time of year.

Speaker 15 (01:33:44):
It's amazing when I'm over there a couple of weeks ago.
The days start off in June, July August at about
you know, six seven degrees, pretty fresh, but by eleven
o'clock she is twenty three, twenty four, twenty five degrees.

Speaker 8 (01:33:59):
Yeah, oh yes, go early.

Speaker 3 (01:34:00):
Yes, excuse my ignorance here, Yes, what's a lack oflithe?

Speaker 15 (01:34:07):
Well, from my schedule understanding, a laclith is formed by
a whole lot of magma pressing upwards and the rock,
the ignis rock forms into a dome like shape, and
that's that's what Mount Kulam is.

Speaker 3 (01:34:23):
Okay, very good. So I'm really putting you on this
one here. How do you spell it? L A C
c okay C C.

Speaker 15 (01:34:34):
O l I t H lack O lifts.

Speaker 3 (01:34:39):
Okay, yes, no, very good. It's an igneous intrusion. Very good.
Do you go all learning?

Speaker 8 (01:34:49):
Okay, I have won the Lounde suite.

Speaker 3 (01:34:51):
Yeah, very good, Mike, that's that's super impressive.

Speaker 5 (01:34:54):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:34:54):
Where is good for whale watching?

Speaker 15 (01:34:57):
Go out with Sunnery from the Lula Bar and over
the course of four hours you will be treeated to
the most magnificent spectacle of backs at play. Lots of
juveniles in particular, and true to form Jack. When you
think juvenile, you think show off. Yes, very flamboyant. With
the breaching of the water off Malulabar. These juveniles whod

(01:35:21):
you mentioned before eleven about whale counting really interesting now
the water's off Molulabarb. Obviously they form part of Australia's
Humpback Highway. Typically they play host of forty thousand humpbacks
cruising up from Antarctica to breed and give booth. The
Sunshine Coast population is growing at about ten percent a year,

(01:35:43):
which is pretty impressive.

Speaker 1 (01:35:44):
So the other.

Speaker 15 (01:35:46):
Amazing insight I glenned when I was out with sun
Reef satellite tracking has been observing their migratory path and
it's incredibly consistent, so they stick to the same north
south track within one degree year on year on a
ten thousand kilometer return swamp. That is pretty good navigation,

(01:36:06):
isn't it one degree?

Speaker 3 (01:36:08):
One degree? That's extraordinary. Yeah, yeah, that's amazing. Okay. What
makes Caloundra such a popular holiday base?

Speaker 15 (01:36:16):
Yeah, I would really recommend it because I think it
has been somewhat underrated by kiwis as a holiday hot spot.
But it's the southern bell of the Sunshine Coast, so
it's Bobymlulabar. But the thing about Caloundra they have got
the most insane abundance of beaches and bays fringing the
town and the headland. For example, there was this gorgeous

(01:36:38):
little beach to the south called Golden Beach and it
itches the waterway that separates Caloundra from the tip of
Bribe Island. So it's very smooth water and it's such
a great spot to do a bit of kayaking and
if you want a side serving of wildlife while you're
doing your kayaking, so many wading birds. You'll be floating
along with pelicans on a we float, you know, it's

(01:37:01):
just so cool. And then in the center of town
in Caloundra at Kings Beach, Queenslanders, right, this is one
of the all time family favorite beaches of the state.
And at the end of the beach the most spectacular
ocean pools complex and it's adorned with sail shades, so
if it's getting really hot on the day, you can
still swim in seawater in these ocean pools and the

(01:37:23):
free to use. So that really is a crowning jewel
of Caloundra.

Speaker 3 (01:37:26):
Oh nice. And how big and how long is their
coastal pathway?

Speaker 15 (01:37:30):
Oh wow, what a wopp are twenty five kilometers all
around the tucks and folds of the Caloundra So whether
you're on foot or by bike, it is such a
magnificent pathway and it will take you to all of
those fabulous beaches they have like Shelley and Moffatt, Golden Kings,
Dicky Beach. There's this fantastic memorial up on the headland

(01:37:53):
just past King's Beach called Centaur Park, and I mean,
it's a great spot for sizzling views, but the memorial
is to his Centaur. I've never heard about this, but
this was an Australian the hospital ship, and it was
sunk just off the host of Caloundra by a Japanese
submarine during World War Two. It killed two hundred and
fifty people. They were basically nervous on a hospital ship.

Speaker 3 (01:38:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:38:14):
So yeah, I've done a gorgeous memorial via to the centaur.
But yeah, make that pathway your holiday highway while you
gaze out on the humpback highway.

Speaker 19 (01:38:24):
Check.

Speaker 8 (01:38:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:38:25):
Yeah, so very good. Hey, thank you so much, Mike.
That does sound amazing. I've just googled it too. So
lack of lists, lots of lack of lists everywhere, well,
not lots xy they're kind of rear on Earth, but
apparently heats on the moon. Really a lot of lack
oflists on the moon and some of the some of them.
Yeah really yeah, yeah, so there you go. Okay, they're

(01:38:47):
all learning. But also not to be confused with a
batholith or a lot of life. Oh I know that
was concerned to you. Yeah, so you've got your lapolists,
your batholists, and your lack of lists. A lot of
lists in geology. Anyway, we're all learning. Thank you so much.
All of Mike's two for wintering over in the Sunshine

(01:39:08):
Coast to be up on the news talks. He'd be Wedstard.
It's eleven thirty.

Speaker 4 (01:39:14):
Getting your weekends started.

Speaker 1 (01:39:16):
It's Saturday morning with Jack team on News Talks EDB,

(01:39:37):
News Talks EDB.

Speaker 3 (01:39:39):
I hope you're enjoying your Marta Ricky long weekend. I'm
I've got my nephews and niece up visiting this weekend.
A sister and her kids have come up to the
Big Smoke, the O nine, all the way from Nelson,
very very exciting. We took the kids to their first
Indian dinner in a restaurant last night. So my two
year old niece, Elsie discovered mango lussies for the first time.

(01:40:01):
Fair to say she's a fan. Fair to say that
she got mango lussy across every single part of her
entire body, as well as every part of the table,
every part of the restaurant walls as well. This afternoon
we're heading along to Wauklande Museum. They've got that amazing
lego exhibition, so I cannot wait for that. But it
is of course a big weekend of sport as well.
The Warriors kick off at five o'clock home game this

(01:40:22):
afternoon against the Broncos, and the All Blacks training camp
is underway where Jason Pine will be broadcasting from this
afternoon for weekend sport.

Speaker 8 (01:40:30):
Gay Party, I've got a Jack Hado mate, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:40:33):
Very well, thanks, So big week come with the All
Backs being named, of course you're gonna be catching up
with the rais of this afternoon.

Speaker 8 (01:40:39):
Yeah, between one and two. Looking forward to chatting to
Scott Robertson. I'm really curious as to how the last
six months have been because ordinarily, of course he's been
coaching the Crusaders to glory, but not having the opportunity
this year and sort of having to sit on the
sidelines in many ways and watch and plan for what
lies ahead. And what lies ahead is a pretty interesting

(01:40:59):
back end of twenty twenty four for Scott Robertson and
for the All Blacks. Two Test matches against England, then
CG and Sandy Diego, the Right Championship of course, and
a Northern Tour fourteen test matches to look forward to.
So he's finally got his team together, he's finally got
his players and at the wonderful New Zealand Campus of
Innovation and Sport and Upperhart. They've been here since Wednesday,

(01:41:20):
so keen to find out what has been focused on
in the first few days and what the plan is
for the for the year ahead, and just a bit
more from you know, Scott Robertson's coaching toolbox as well,
to try and unpick up.

Speaker 3 (01:41:32):
It'll be interesting just to get a sense of how
exactly he has been prioritizing his time over the last
months or so, to get a bit of a sense
of his sense of direction for yeah, for the coming
weeks and years. How are you saying about the Warriors
this afternoon.

Speaker 8 (01:41:48):
I'm interested in how they go. I mean, obviously, you know,
what we all hope is that last week was a
complete outlier, an aberration, and something that will be remembered
in years to come and say, I remember that time
the Titans beat us sixty six six, and we'll all
sort of, you know, broke our s, broke our chins,
and look into the middle and wonder how it all happened.

(01:42:10):
I guess what we'll find out this afternoon is a
bit about the Warriors' ability to bounce back from disappointment.
And it was a huge disappointment for the most part.
Andrew Websters kept the same team thirteen of the seventeen
who played last weekend, we'll back up again today, so
he's given them the opportunity to go out and put
it right. Yes, I want to cover that off this afternoon.
And the Tour de France, one of the world's most
iconic sporting events, underway tonight. It's starting in Italy for

(01:42:34):
the very first time tonight New Zealand time, so I
want to want to have a decent preview of the
Tour de France as well.

Speaker 3 (01:42:40):
Nice hey, thank you, sir. Looking forward to this afternoon.
Jason Pine behind the mic for Weekend Sport right after
the twelve o'clock news before midday, We've got that new
music for you from Anna Coddington. It's a fourth studio album.
She's just a really interesting musician and creator, so looking
forward to coming out. Bit of Space so we can
play a couple of her new songs next up. If
you're looking for a cracking read this weekend, our book

(01:43:01):
reviewer has two recommendations for us haul It's twenty four
to twelve bit a way to.

Speaker 4 (01:43:06):
Kick off your weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:43:07):
Then with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Day and bepwured
on codet enz for high quality supplements used Talk.

Speaker 3 (01:43:14):
Zenb twenty to twelve on Newstalk z'be Katherine Rains as
our book reviewer. She's got two reads for us this weekend.
Hey Catherine, Morning Jack. Let's begin with Storm Child by
Michael Robotham.

Speaker 21 (01:43:27):
So this is in a series, and so this is
the fourth in the series of Ev Cormack, and you
get to learn a little bit more about her mysterious
past and she's very silent on her name and background
and a precaution for her own self preservation and she's
a for a psychologist to go. And I'm Sarah Cyrus,
Haven and Nottingham for the last three years. And they

(01:43:48):
decide to take a holiday trip to Cleethorpe's on the
Lincolnshire coast, and this horrifying site plays out before their
eyes as these bodies of migrants are washed up on
the beach, including a little boy, and there's a teenage survivor,
a boy named Arburn. And this tragedy has a particular
impact on Ev.

Speaker 6 (01:44:06):
And Cyrus works with the.

Speaker 21 (01:44:07):
Nottingham Police Force and he's drafted to help this inquiry
that's going on and he finds himself very involved in this,
and it turns out of a llegal boat trafficking of
refugees and gangs and led by this mythical guy they
call the Fairyman who damages the boats of refugees who
don't pay him, and you know, revengeful compensation and all

(01:44:28):
sorts of things going on, and the narrative alternates between
ev and Cyrus, and the situation brings back a lot
of Evie's memories and a little bit more of her backstory,
and he gets ever changing plot that's told in flashbacks
that trigger memories and drama and all sorts of things,
and these recollections from the present day storyline in this
dark tale. So you lots of things, the refugee situation

(01:44:49):
and modern slavery and Evie's mind and the way things
are working for her, and it's just it's a fascinating
unraveling of her tail, which is a little bit more
of her.

Speaker 3 (01:44:58):
Tail, Okay, called That's a Storm charb by Michael Robotham.
You've also read Agent Zoe by Clear Mulley, So this
is that's.

Speaker 21 (01:45:06):
The story of ELIZABETHA. Zowaka. She was a Polish World
War II female resistance fighter and her name was Agent Zo.
And so the story sort of starts out actually after
the war in September fifth, nineteen fifty one, and she
arrives home from her teaching job to find these two
officials waiting for her, and they ransack her flat in

(01:45:27):
northern Poland, and they find this cotton rail containing a
ten dollar note of all things, and only foreign currency
in communist Poland at that time carried a ten year
sentence including torture, and it was just an absurd part
of her story. And this woman who had fought to
defend eastern Poland from the Nazis. She joined the Home Army,

(01:45:50):
which was one of the largest resistance movements in Europe.
She'd run a network of couriers taking information to the
Polish government, which happened to be an exile in London.
She trained volunteers of the British Special Operations Executive and
of underground resistance fighters. And she was the only woman
that was parachuted back into occupied Poland. And there these

(01:46:11):
amazing physical challenges she undertook as well, you know, deep
snow and the Pyrenees and bombed by the English and
shot out by border guards and Claire Marlet Mulley, who's
told this story, said that Agent Zoe had set herself
to missions in life to bring freedom to a country
and the quality of opportunity, rank and recognition to her
fellow service woman. And she actually ironically achieves the last

(01:46:34):
one of those right at the end of her life,
and she's officially recognized and awarded the Order of the
White Eagle, and at ninety seven she was given the
military title of Brigadier General retired. And of course an
independent democratic Poland, which was her first wish. But she's
just an astonishing woman. And you know there's detailed account
of history in Poland in the twentieth century as well,

(01:46:56):
you know, invaded simultaneously by Hitler and Stalin, and you know,
the Poles were amazing. You know, they provided nearly half
of Britain's war time intelligence and you know, made these
and valuable contributions.

Speaker 6 (01:47:08):
To the war effort.

Speaker 21 (01:47:10):
And yeah, and then finally in old age, she's recognized
as who she should have been recognized and bright from
day one. But the story and yeah, is amazing as
she kind of steps through I can't all you know
of lots of these World War two female resistance workers fighters, sorry,
and lots of people and pilots and all sorts of things,
and you just the stories are unmanageable of what they

(01:47:33):
put themselves to.

Speaker 3 (01:47:33):
Yeah, sounds great.

Speaker 8 (01:47:35):
Cool.

Speaker 3 (01:47:35):
Okay, there's Agent Zo by Clear Mulley, Catherine's first book,
A Storm Child by Michael Robot, and both of those,
of course be listed up on the news talks he'd
b website. It's sixteen to twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:47:46):
Giving you the inside scoop on all you need to
us Saturday Mornings with Jack Dame and Bpure dot co
dot nz for high quality supplements used talks.

Speaker 3 (01:47:55):
B Oh, that's cool. A. This is Anna Collington. She's

(01:48:25):
just released a new album called That song is called Honeyback.
It features Troy Kingy and it's interesting because I think
she said this album is kind of a funky take
and that song has certainly got some funky elements. Ah,
and obviously Troy Kingy is into a bit of funk
from time to time as well. Anyway, our music reviewer
at cel Cliffe has been listening to the album. She's

(01:48:46):
with us Morning Now Marley Funk.

Speaker 10 (01:48:49):
That's where we're going.

Speaker 22 (01:48:50):
Cool, It's very cool and you know, the first listener
was like, Oh, it's got some Prince esque kind of
sound about it, and I think that is and A's
rhythm guitar that she does, but also those real strong
basslines and drums that come through. She's a fan of Prince.
I mean, who isn't. And then actually, when all the
things I've read about the album, I'm not alone and

(01:49:12):
you know, totally that was some of her vibe bring
that album together. And then yeah, like you say, when
you've got collbs like Troy Kingey he did that whole
funk album that he's done in his ten ten ten collection,
And she actually wrote that Honeybacks because you can hear
it's got a bit of sassay.

Speaker 10 (01:49:27):
Like take that boy.

Speaker 11 (01:49:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:49:29):
Yeah, So she was writing that to say to a friend,
you know, take your power back, let them be. But
then she wanted kind of like the guy's perspective of
what's their story, and in her imagination, imagine if the
guy came back and had some apologies and wanted to
take responsibility for what went down. And so that's kind
of where Troy comes in. But God, their voices just
blend so beautifully together. Their whole I think, just the

(01:49:54):
whole manner of those two working together is just such
a beautiful thing. This album is really important because I
for me, one of my favorite albums growing up was
Tucky from Mowana and the More Hunters. Yeah, when that
album came out, it blew my mind that someone could
do a bilingual album and just make to del Mardy
pop just for me. I don't know if i'd heard

(01:50:14):
that as much as I realized that it could just
be in this mainstream kind of way. And before you
know it, you're like singing along to all these songs
and to del Mardy and you don't necessarily have to
have a full understanding. I think you kind of just
get taken away with these catchy hooks and melodies. And
I mean, what a way to learn a language, right, totally.

Speaker 5 (01:50:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:50:36):
If I watched my five year old, you know she
can't read yet, so that's how she learns. She listens,
he takes it on board, and I think that just
continue through your journey of life. And I just think,
what a way to embrace the language then just singing,
and when they make it so catchy into this pop
kind of music, yeah, you know you're quickly getting sort
of taken away. With it, and I think that this
album from Anna is a new version of what that is.

(01:50:58):
It's got these really slip, funky beats that pull you
in the synth grooves every now and then, and just
a real beautiful blender of language and heart, and I
just think it's really clever. I like that combination as
well as just some absolute jams totally, which I think
is really really awesome. The opening track what you're going

(01:51:20):
to play some of as well. It's like even the
music video when you see her in it, it's like, yes, girl,
you are just fire in some sets, you know, like
you ain't ready for all the awesome of Anna. I
think it's great because often artists don't empower themselves like that,

(01:51:41):
you know, like check it out, we've got something awesome
to offer. So it's really refreshing to hear that. That's
my interpretation of the song. Anyway, she's got her coven
on the backing vocals. She's admitted they have a coven.
Chat Holly Smith, Nick Moore, Julia Dean's.

Speaker 6 (01:51:56):
Are in there.

Speaker 22 (01:51:58):
One of the great tracks you should definitely make sure
you listen to is call Your Mother Okay, amazing bassline,
she really plays with her voice in the verses of
the song. In some of the lyrics, you think that
you don't need me, but I'm the one that makes
the world go round.

Speaker 8 (01:52:14):
Hello.

Speaker 22 (01:52:16):
And it's a good reminder this long weekend you should
call your mother.

Speaker 3 (01:52:19):
Yes, it's on your to do lists. Sounds really good,
sounds great.

Speaker 22 (01:52:25):
It's great, stellar voice, and it's always had a wonderful voice.
And I like how she's quite sort of quite silky,
ah like this quality to it, but she's quite playful
in what she's delivering. So there's a real fun, energetic
vibe about this. And I think as someone who's done
the reclamation journey of her language, you know, it must

(01:52:46):
have been such joy to be able to then write
in the language. Yeah, put that music together, Like I
just I really feel that, and I'm like, that's so awesome,
and it just so it has a real positive energy
and quite danceable. Who doesn't need a little boogie, Yeah,
I don't know, around your kitchen or something this long
behand while you're calling your mother.

Speaker 3 (01:53:05):
Good auswer sounds really good. That's really good way of
a good listen. Yes, so what do you get?

Speaker 7 (01:53:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 22 (01:53:10):
Yeah, it's a ten out of ten.

Speaker 8 (01:53:11):
Ten.

Speaker 3 (01:53:12):
Ten, that's fantastic. So that's ten out of ten for
by Anna Collington. Hey, good news for your style as well. Yes, yes,
Anna is going to come on our show next week.
She's going to be our feature interview next week after
ten o'clock. So very much having a catch over there
then yeah, yeah, that's awesome. I know, I know it's
going to be awesome. So we'll pick out a good

(01:53:33):
song to play in a couple of minutes time. Thank
you so much, man, have a good Matadiki and we
will catch you again very soon. So ten out of
ten for like I said, we'll play you a couple
more songs in a couple of minutes. Eight to twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:53:48):
A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday mornings with
Jack Day and bpure dot co dot instead for high
quality supplements, news talks cool.

Speaker 3 (01:53:58):
That is us for another Saturday morning together. Thank you
so much for your company, all of your thoughtful texts
and emails throughout the morning. For everything from our show.
You can go to New Storks heb dot cot on
his zed forward slash Jack. You'll find all the good
stuff up there. You can find us on Facebook as
well by searching Jack Tame on Facebook. Jason Pine is
with you this afternoon. It's a special weekend sport. He

(01:54:20):
is inside the All Backs training camp after one o'clock
has feature interview this afternoon other than All Backs coach
Scott Raiser Robinson. It would be really interesting to hear
from those two together. Thanks to my wonderful producer Libby
for doing all the tough stuff. I'm back with you
next Saturday morning from nine until then, We're gonna leave
you with Anna Collington. Her new album is Miha ten

(01:54:41):
out of ten Now Music. Rea reckons it's worth This
song is called car two out of here.

Speaker 11 (01:55:06):
Don't both looking straight into the sun. You might get
a many in my land had done him, but you
won't be the only on the You're done A brown
baby shape to hear a tire Charles wish your love

(01:55:32):
before you say my name. Come to Joy Reddics. Then
I fired on the same to do Redics. I'll see
your giant's attention, Joy Red. Then I fire I say.

Speaker 15 (01:56:02):
Not to.

Speaker 11 (01:56:05):
D see your giant, Joy Joy the same, see your giant.

Speaker 4 (01:56:58):
It's a cry in change.

Speaker 1 (01:57:00):
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