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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast
from News Talks AB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Twenty five to eleven on Newsbooks. Well, the AI world
was sort of turned on its head this week. Went
out of nowhere a Chinese company and a Chinese AI
model run by a company called deep Seek was released
to the world and for a fraction of the cost,
like a one hundredth of the cost of the likes
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of chat GPT produced what appeared to be a pretty
effective generative AI model. So you could go online and Jay, hey,
write me an essay on the fall of the Roman Empire.
I need two thousand words, and I need it in
fifteen seconds, and it could do it. Our Textbert Paul
Stenhouse is here with the details and Paul, this sort
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of came out of nowhere a it did.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
And the thing that was so fascinating about it not
just that cost Jack there was so much lower than
what these US firms have spent on AI.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
It's that they've managed to do it with old hardware basically, right.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
So one of the big things here was that the
US had basically put a ban on in Vidia's chips
going over to China to be used for AI. They
wanted to make sure that the US was best positioned
for this you know AI revolution or still will be
the best positioned for this revolution.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
And so China was really forced to do with what they.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Had and make do did they because it's just like
that's the piece of this that I think stunned people.
And that's the reason that the stock market just took
an absolute beating.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
I mean in Vidio's shares fell.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Of its market cap in a day because of this
new model.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
It did make it a few bit of a back, right, So,
I mean I think it was that that as a company,
I think and Nvidia lost more value than any other
company in the history of American cheer markets. Well, you
know that in that twenty four hour period they had
made a bit of it bad for the year. It
was a massive shock.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I'm just quickly looking as you type. I mean it's
still it is still down on.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Where it started the week, yes, yes, but has certainly
like yeah, I mean, it just moved.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
I think it was so scary.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Is it just moved the whole market, right, because there
were all those flow and effects because I think for
the first time the analysts have really started to think
maybe this like maybe what we're doing isn't necessarily maybe
the hype isn't there, or maybe what we've got isn't
necessarily the best, and it just it just the ricochet
where people were just really questioning the value of this company.
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Now that is the most valuable company I think in
the world.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
At least, was Yeah, it's going to be amazing, amazing
to see how they kind of tech companies in the
US respond as well. Now, let's talk robotaxis, because more
robotaxis are headed to the streets. There are a few
cities in the U where they've become kind of a
common thing to see. You know, when I was when
I was in Arizona a few months ago, you know,
there were these kind of robotaxis every weere. Obviously in
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Silicon Valley you see them all the time. But now
Tesla is starting a robotaxi service in Austin, Texas.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Austin, Texas right by their big HQ. Yeah, and that
I mean, Elon says it's going to be in June.
So let's wait and see if that actually happens. I've
been talking about this fully autonomous driving for quite some time,
and that's what this robotaxi service will be there'll be
no human driver behind the wheel.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
It just turns up.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
And how it's different from those other services like the
ones you saw in Phoenix and is if like might
have seen them under the name Weaimo. They've got all
these kind of instruments on and sort of around the car.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
They do like light our radar.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Technology, and there's like things that spin and it looks
very kind of sophisticated and you know future, yeah, something
from the future. But the Tesla from what we know,
is going to be using it's standard Tesla cameras that
they've already been using, which is a really big step
forward if that can actually go the distance, because that
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technology is significantly cheaper, doesn't rely on expensive hardware. It's
largely software based. It's just literally using cameras. And they've
been testing out their full drivers function in San Francisco
with safety drivers behind the wheel, and now it seems
that and this is the thing, it seems that they
will be just standard Teslas.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Elan's talked about something interesting.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Over the years, he's had this stream of these robotaxis
where you could buy your own Tesla and then contribute
it back when you're not using it to the Tesla network.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
So one would assume.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
That the Robotaxi service will be a step in that
direction and they will just be standard Tesla's. But another
fun thing about the Tesla Jack and itself driving. Did
you know at the Tesla factory when a car is
born effectively when it is completed itself to the loading dock.
Speaker 5 (05:09):
Ah cute?
Speaker 2 (05:11):
So I mean that is cool. I suppose that can
they just program it?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Right?
Speaker 2 (05:15):
You would hope that for all of the self driving
technology that have enough confidence in the technology that the
can drive through the factory floor.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Yeah, that sounds amazing, drives.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
It, drives it to the loading dock and gets gets
put on a.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Well, I don't know, I guess in a ship or
a yeah, truck or something, and off it goes.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
Hey, were you were you a SIMS fan when you
were a kid? Twenty five years right since the SIMS
were invented. I was of saying, sorry to interrupt you,
I was a SIMS fan. This is a it's a
computer game, right now, that the SIMS were a computer
game where you would sort of simulate a life and
you you'd run you'd basically run these people and run
their lives and build a house and they go to job.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yeah, whole family. And it was always weird because it
was the first game where you just it wasn't even
really a major purpose. It was just sort of you
were just.
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Building someone else's life.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Well, Jack, you were trying to make money?
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Well you maybe you were.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I wasn't nearly as oh yes, right yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Anyway, it's back.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
It's back.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
It's it's been twenty five years, and to celebrate that,
they are re releasing SIMS and SIMS too, which I
just think is kind of it's so fun.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
I mean that game, you see, that was a massive
step forward when it was released.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
I remember thinking the graphics were just incredible. You know,
you had the full design control of designing your house.
They had all these expansion packs, do you remember those?
You send them on vacations and dates and all sorts
of things, and it was sort of like the you know,
you got your parents to buy you the SIMS, and
then you had to go and you know, trick them
into seeing if they could buy you the extension pack
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to do more and more.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Well, yeah, it's back.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
If you're on Windows ten or Windows eleven, You can
download it from Electronic Arts or Steam, which has which
has lots and lots of games and things. No love
for Matthews as yet though, because I'm just full of
fun facts today.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Did you know that there's a SIMS movie in the works?
Speaker 5 (07:08):
Ah? I had no idea, right, Okay.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
So I think I think kind of like the Bardie hype.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah. Mate, So not as money in nostalgia, Paul, there's
money in nostalgia Millennials.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
I still remember the cheat code in SIMS to type
in to get unlimited money.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Oh, what was it was? Rosebud? You typed in Rosebud, Rosebud, Rosebud.
I must have typed in Rosebud.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
I don't know how many rose bud?
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Ah?
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (07:36):
Am I right in thinking that that is the that's
from Citizen Kane?
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Isn't it that I don't know it's a Citizen Kane?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Ah, Paul, You see you think of yourself as a
as a as a storied and cultural man.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Yes, roerenh.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
For goodness sake, I'm not going to give it away.
You've got to watch Citizen Kane.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Are you serious?
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Even problem you haven't seen Citizen Kane.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
I probably have for goodness problem I.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Have get back here screens for goodness. Okay, all right, hey,
thanks thanks so much for great to check our TIS
at paul Stein House.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
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