Full Show Podcast: 01 April 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking
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and rural.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
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Speaker 3 (00:11):
Today, we talked new fairies, a new road cone hotline,
fewer rules in the workplace around safety and falling off
your office. Here does Auckland the airport cut their fees?
Does that mean a better grab a seat?

Speaker 4 (00:21):
Veal?

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Joseph Parker comes out of the corner after right Catherine
Fields in Paris and Rob Little does the mighty u
kss the're morning seven past six? If it wasn't a
swing in the mess, it wasn't the Nickel will I mean,
it wasn't the Nicola Willis. Let's repeat everything I've said
several times over on supermarkets. But it certainly wasn't what
was implied I would have thought by the fairies Minister
Winston Peter. So my impression as a voter was by

(00:43):
the end of March we would be getting detail on
new fairies. Did we get that? Not really? I mean
we got confirmation that new fairies are coming, but we
knew that anyway. We got confirmation they'd be cheaper than Irex.
But we assume that. But what else did we get?
And did you expect more?

Speaker 4 (00:57):
See?

Speaker 3 (00:57):
I suppose in a way, what does it matter? If
it isn't costing four billion and it solves an old
ship problem, then really we've got bigger fish to fry
right now. I would have thought, No, I didn't expect
to know the total cost because I assumed there would
be some sort of tendering process which needed to remain confidential.
But and this is the bit that once again lumbers
the government with this ongoing, if not building, reputation that

(01:17):
they don't actually do anything. Just what is it that
has changed since Peter's got the job of the fairies
off Willis? Willis spent all of last year allegedly sorting
out the Irex mess. We're all on the same page
with Irex. Of course, it was the Labor government at
their best, start out with one thing, blow the budget
on something else four point one billion and climbing was
a scandal, But canceling it was easy, which Willis did.

(01:40):
Then we stood by and stood by and stood by,
and finally, as Christmas approached, word of an announcement, and
the announcement was she'd lost the job, and Winston had
got it. He was pro rail. She may or may
not have been. I don't know. But you didn't need
to switch bosses, and you didn't need another three months
to basically announce that you'd gone back to the drawing
board and you want something cheaper, two ships with current

(02:02):
infrastructure to support them. Tenders, open bids, and tenders are
welcome as of today. Please, How hard is that? Because
that's where we're at. It's where we were in December.
It was where we were when we canceled iraqs, all
that time, all that water under the bridge for what.
But I suppose if they arrive by twenty twenty nine
and sold the issue yesterday, today and all the other

(02:22):
days will be long forgotten and will be several billion
dollars better off.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
News of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Not a good day from Marine. The pen and herb
chances of a presidential run in France, it's.

Speaker 5 (02:34):
A democratic as a keeple of Franz.

Speaker 6 (02:37):
The politics for the politicians, ZI don't choose for for
the judges. But these judges they have decided for the
Polish future of friends.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Work through the detail. At the moment we're getting set
for Liberation Day where everyone gets a terrify.

Speaker 7 (02:54):
They've ripped us off like no countries have ever been
ripped off in history. We're going to be much nicer
than they weren't to us, but in some stage of
money for the country.

Speaker 8 (03:06):
Never know that.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
As regards to the war on the so called the
ceasefire deal, the finished presidents Waden.

Speaker 9 (03:10):
Obviously he's the only person who can broke her a
piece a ceasefire because he's the only one that Putin
is afraid of, and in that sense.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Respect he refers to it. Of course, Trump a couple
of things out of Britain. Firstly, they kicked off the
litz heavy yeck about criminal migration summits.

Speaker 9 (03:28):
We need to treat people smuggling as a global security threat,
similar if you like, to terrorism. We've got to bring
to bear all the powers we have at our disposal
in much the same way that we do against terrorism.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
They're a little bit worried about the military and me
and mar post quake.

Speaker 10 (03:46):
Despite the earthquake, we've seen reports of ongoing air strikes
against civilian targets. Such a tax have had the devastating
consequences on local communities. Over the last four years, and
we condemn all the tacks which targets civilleans and civilian infrastructure.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
And the government's decided to show adolescences and you know
Netflix in schools. So Jack Thorne got the word to
pop into Downing Street.

Speaker 11 (04:08):
It was about facilitating conversations with charities and news groups
that really understand what's going on and hearing them speak.
It was just so inspirational and I hope a solution
can be found as a community to this problem.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
That does news of the world in ninety Yeah, I
for ring the pen. It was as bad as the
expected prosecutor. I only ever thought in the million years
she'd be banned from running for the presidency. But the
prosecutor had asked for a fine, jail and the band.
That was the surprise at the time. Everyone thought what
that anyway, they got it. So, yes, she's got the fine,
which isn't the end of the world. The jail side
of the equation four years, two of which are suspended,

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two of which is going to be wearing an electronic tag.
But the presidential thing is the major because she's the
front runner in a presidential race in France and she's
not allowed to run. Obviously, an appeal that's coming, but
all hell's going to break loose. As far as I
can work out, we'll go to Catherine in half an hour.
Twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
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Speaker 3 (05:09):
Couple of bits of good news. Germany inflation for March
two point three. They thought it would be two point four,
so that's in the right direction roughly. And I've got
some factory activity in China at a one year high,
and given our reliance on China, we'll take that, won't
we Fifteen past six, but open day my Wealth Andrew
Kellah grew.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
In morning, Very good morning, Mike.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
And another outlook from a bank, and it's a slog,
but we see some I think I see some light Handrew.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
Yes, it is. Yes.

Speaker 12 (05:36):
We had an update on sentiment of local business yesterday,
the latest iteration of the alien zed business outlook, and
the takeaway here, Mike is that there is good evidence
of economic recovery, but it's tempered, and I'm characterizing it
as a beige recovery as opposed to sort of vibrant, colorful,
frothy one. So that sort of tempered recovery seems to

(05:57):
be the current consensus, and look at us being supported
by things like employment confidence and consumer confidence and some
of the hard data spending actual employment. But look, there's
always plenty of interest in the aims of business outlook
and how it prints. And at the headline level, MIC
business confidence is held steady or it's stalled, depending on
your point of view. So it's coming flat, actually marginally

(06:20):
lower than it was in February plus fifty eight. Just
looking at the breakdown the Auckland's helping which is unusual
at the moment it's at plus fifty eight, but Wellington
plus forty five's that are still.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
There's a little bit gloomy down there.

Speaker 12 (06:32):
Now, the supporting acts did improve, so expected own activity
plus four points to plus forty nine. Past own activity
that's the best GDP indicator.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
That lifted four points.

Speaker 12 (06:43):
And actually if you look at the correlation that to
GDP markets suggesting quite robust GDP growth this year, which
I think maybe a little optimistic. Past employment rose one
point as well, and sort of pushing down into some
of the detail MIC export intentions. Unsurprisingly, the agrisector is
looking much more positive than manufacturing profit expectations have lifted,

(07:08):
but farmers are, in an.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
Z Owns words, a huge outlier to the upside.

Speaker 12 (07:13):
Cost expectations have pushed up, and inflation expectations one year
outs have lifted slightly in the A and ZD. Mike,
they do note this lift in inflation in the casion,
we need to be a little bit wary of this,
particularly with the inflation concerns that are kind of front
and center in other parts of the world. That's those
sort of inflations ticking up a little bit.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
That won't be round. Nothing here will.

Speaker 12 (07:35):
Derail the ocr cuts that we are expecting. But as
I think I've said before, I think you can expect
three in a quarter. You can expect fifty basis points.
But that's probably all you can be certain about at
the moment. Look, but Mike, look to summarize, the business
environments has definitely improved, but it does feel you called
it a slog I'd call it a hesitant process.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
And there's plenty of industry variation in there.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Okay, talk to me about the RB. Are they going
to change anything? And if they do, is that material
for you and me?

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Well, you know it could be.

Speaker 12 (08:04):
It's one of these slow burned things. But this was
actually in a way, this was a bit.

Speaker 5 (08:09):
Of a surprise.

Speaker 12 (08:10):
I mean, the RBNZ is going to review the bank
capital requirement. Now, this little bombshell was dropped yesterday by
RB and Z Chairman Neil Quigley during a hearing of
Parliament's Finance and Expenditure Committee. And the Bank is responding
apparently to increase scrutiny on the capital requirements and it's
monitoring of international views on capital stands and Mike, in

(08:32):
my view, it's hard not to feel the hand of
political pressure in the background as well. Yeah, look, my
understanding is the RB there's been suggested the RB they'll
look at the actual intended increases, the ones that they've
said they're going to do, but also potentially pause the process.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
So look the.

Speaker 12 (08:49):
Increase in capital requirement, so this how much capital the
banks need to hold in relation to their land.

Speaker 5 (08:54):
Look, it's a gradual process. It steps up every year
till twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 12 (08:58):
The announcement, Mike want here to have been coordinated with
the government, because the Minister of Finance issued a press
release around the same time. I would would make the
comment like these capital requirements They were strongly championed by
the now departed Governor Adrian or It seems highly unlikely that.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
This would have happened if he was still the governor.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
I think it should, like over.

Speaker 12 (09:21):
Time, create a slightly easier lending environment in New Zealand
and that respect, that is a positive to keep the
wheels of commerce turning.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
So I think a good it's a good development.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Lotion numbers on me.

Speaker 12 (09:35):
Yeah, So we're rapidly getting closer to a liberation day,
aren't we, Although for our US consumers it's probably more
like commiseration day. And the markets have been the market's
probably priced a little bit of this in we were
Offshore markets outside of the US reacted quite negatively yesterday overnight.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
It's actually not been too bad.

Speaker 12 (09:54):
That Dow Jones is up a quarter of percent one
hundred and two points forty one, six hundred and eighty
three P five hundred down point three eight five five
five nine, and then that's that though the one that's
been hurt a little bit. It's down one point two
percent two hundred and nine point seventeen thousand, one hundred
and thirteen. But yesterday, yeah, the fortzy one hundred lost
point eight eight percent eight five eight two. The nick

(10:17):
it got pretty smacked. It was down four percent. Real
concerns there about the impact of tariffs. That's down one thousand,
five hundred and two points thirty five thousand, six hundred
and seventeen. Shanghai compose it lost about half a percent.
The A six of ASX two hundred got really hit
one point seven percent fall seven eight four three. We
lost seventeen points. We were relatively modest fall twelve thousand,

(10:39):
two hundred and seventy point one four percent. Overnight kimi
as WEEKO point five to sixty seven one against the US,
point nine o eight two against the Aussie, point five
two four five against the europe We.

Speaker 5 (10:49):
Are hitting ten year lows. On the pound.

Speaker 12 (10:51):
It has broken through forty four point four three nine
three YEP. Not good if you're going on holiday. Point
eighty five point oh twogainst. The Japanese end gold is
surging three thousand, one hundred and eighteen US dollars and
Brankfrew seventy four dollars and seventy nine seventies.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Are interesting times. O MUT see you tomorrow, Andrew Kellah
jomowl dot co, dot M z asking me of interesting
Lawrence who runs or owns a chunk of Aston Martin
Stroll has raised more money for Aston Martin Ober Night
two hundred and fifteen million. What is also doing is
he intends to sell his minority investment in the F

(11:28):
one team to raise at least another one hundred and
fifty million. So if Lawrence isn't in the F one anymore,
are they still called Aston Martin? And if Lawrence isn't
in the F one and they're not called Aston Martin,
what about Lance? Does Lance lose his job? What happens there?
Interesting times too, isn't it? Six twenty one? You wre
at News Talk ZB.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
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Speaker 3 (11:57):
My Condor Works team, Yuki replaces Lance? Oh Go's just
the question if they're a hont of Works team, why
Gibbon Mercedes owner chunk of Aston Martin? Don't Aston Martin
US Mercedes? And if Yuke goes to Aston Martin? Who
replaces Yuki? At Red Bull?

Speaker 13 (12:11):
Do you ever actually get in the cars and go
run and around the track with this thing?

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Or that it's more exciting outside of the actual racing itself. Greenland.
By the way, Denmark's Prime Minister Fredrickson is going to
be visiting green They said, you see JD I'm coming
to Wednesday and Thursday. And in Greenland, Starma and Trump
had a big phone call and once again Trump says
everyone's getting a tariff has off tomorrow on Liberation Day,
but productive negotiations were held. According to Starma, if they

(12:38):
don't remain productive, in other words, of Liberation Day turns
up and everyone gets a tariff and they haven't been
carved out, which I suspect they won't be, then retaliatory
tariffs are coming from the UK. And if they come
from the UK, you then ask the question does the
UK does the US retaliate against the retaliatory and so
it goes run around in circles and that's a full
on trade war. So Tomorrow's going to be awesome. Fun

(13:00):
six twenty five.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
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Speaker 3 (13:06):
All year round Chilah Booth News. Last year, apparently we
got Wordy was involved in a new boxing slash crime
drama based in Wales. Sort of whiteboard deal, sort of
whiteboard are you using to come up with that. Anyway,
fast forward, we've got the trailer for salvable.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
You had one tough fighter. That's the level trend.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
Once it come on too late, he did, I'm done.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
We're not finished here. We finished ten years ago.

Speaker 14 (13:36):
Wellie, I'm tired of being a punchback.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
When did you get out?

Speaker 5 (13:43):
You know me always had me wars.

Speaker 15 (13:48):
Last time you get mixed up with that wreck, you
nearly lost everything.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Don't forget that.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
We'll hardly five hundred and I said, change or late.
We don't change people like ustaunch.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
What do you say?

Speaker 2 (14:02):
One last dance.

Speaker 5 (14:04):
I was so scared it'd end up like me.

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Oh yeah. The aforementioned laboof is the star Toby Keble,
who I looked up because obviously no one knows who
Toby Keble as. I looked him up more when I
hear him, but not as much as I went James Cosmo.
I went off him because he's been around literally forever.
It's out in theaters and various streaming services. On the
same day, and that day would be March the second, Mike.

Speaker 14 (14:29):
I think May the second. Correct, we've had Marched the second,
We've nearly had April the second.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Thanks Guinn.

Speaker 13 (14:39):
That's why I get paid the big bags, So that's.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Why you're here. Yeah, may the second? Where was I Mike?
The Greens are starting to sound like that cousin that
always has drama every week and new issue. Shall we
get into this or shall we be a bit adult
and try ignore it all. I'll have a think during
the news and let you know.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
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Speaker 3 (15:11):
Mike, it's somewhat funny that the Greens once again complaining
about one of their members. Maybe they should reflect on
their own processes. I mean that part of It's an
interesting part of the story for me, Mike. From memory,
the Greens and Labor, in conjunction with Labor was more
than happy to reach into the sam uff and dull
school days to try and spread the dirt. Yeah, but
what are you after is a tip for tap thing?

Speaker 5 (15:29):
Now?

Speaker 3 (15:29):
Is it that how you want to play that game?

Speaker 4 (15:30):
Mike?

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Yes, you need to cover the Greens up parliamentary standard
to at stake. Not an unfair point. No, get into it.
I'm so sick of these arrogant, condescending idiots gas lighting
and seemingly getting away with it. Rip them apart. So
that's driven by anger. I don't know that we want
to go down that particular track. Please ignore Chloe and
her colleagues are barking, Leave them and the nutters to unnus.

(15:51):
So Audrey Young, I can direct you to. This morning
is always a very good piece from her. Where she
sums it up, I think reasonably well. But more later
three minutes away from seven Ring La Penn and what
they do next Captron Field in France. Meantime back here,
it's Health and Safety Week is currently the government looks
to bring a bit of real world back to the
mad business of rules and regulation around the workplace in

(16:13):
our roads. The low risk businesses are set to have
life made easier good. The focus will be on risk
good as opposed to a lot of rules our workplace
relations in safety. Minister Brook Ben Belden is with u's
very good morning to you.

Speaker 16 (16:25):
Good morning mate.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Now, I was following yours pressure yesterday with the Prime
Minister with a great deal of interest, and you tease this,
you tease us with a whole seemingly a whole week
worth of reveals. Do you have a whole week worth
of reveals coming?

Speaker 16 (16:38):
I do, indeed, and not only that, but I've got
months of reveals coming. This is just the first of
the first tranch of health and safety reforms through the year.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Are you upending us?

Speaker 16 (16:49):
Well, what we've heard is that for most companies, by
and large, they're happy with the bones of the Health
and Safety at Work Act, but we are making some
significant changes. Like your said, one of the things I
heard from traveling from fang Day to Bluff talking to
small business and workers was that most of them don't
know what to do to comply. And we know that

(17:11):
businesses are already stressed. They're trying to figure out the
Holidays Act on top of this, as well as how
do you get money in and out of the door.
We're going to make it a lot clearer, so you
only need to focus on your critical risks, things that
will actually cause people harm, rather than posters saying warning
hot water or warning.

Speaker 17 (17:29):
Here is a staircase.

Speaker 16 (17:31):
We've got to bring some common sense back to New
Zealand and to business.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
How much of that is ideological on your part versus practical,
because in my experience. To be frank, A lot of
that stuff, you know, the silly stuff is ignored anyway.

Speaker 16 (17:45):
Well, a lot of it is companies finding they're spending
a lot of money on over compliance because they are
fearful of prosecution, you know. And we've heard it even
in the case of traffic management that sometimes some company
to speak, nearly half of their project cost on temporary
traffic management. So we're bringing some common sense back and saying, look,

(18:07):
in some cases you're doing too much, and in some
cases we need to focus less on the paperwork and
making sure that works safe, has a paper trail, and
more on how you actually reduce harm in your workplace.
Let's go back to what you can recognize as things
that could cause death or serious illness and injury, and
not sweet the small stuff.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
The road cone thing, the temporary traffic management is somebody
ultimately in this country in charge of that or is
it a local authority thing? And therefore getting on top
of it in a consistent fashion is going to be
a problem.

Speaker 16 (18:40):
We can get on top of it. What we've heard
everywhere in New Zealand is there are far too many
road cones. And I agree, Minister Chris Bishop is responsible
for ENZTA. They have a new temporary traffic management guide
that has been released, and what we'll be doing is
working together to ensure that people around the country know
that it is and that it is a risk based

(19:02):
guide and we should be fewer road cones on the streets.
But what I'm doing is guiding work Safe to go
out into the community, find instances of overs compliance, too
many road cones and actually tell people that they're doing
too much. We actually need some sense and letting people
know that there is guidance out there.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Is there this hotline, is there a person on the
end of it, are they offshore in Malaysia? And will
anything actually be done?

Speaker 16 (19:32):
What I've been doing is having some very blue conversations
with work Safe that the sport will be funded through
their baselines. Now we don't have a number for the
phone line just yet because I don't want people calling
in before the program's actually live, but we'll be working
for twelve months. People can let work Safe know. The
investigators will be going out and letting people know whether

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or not they're doing too much or whether they think
the guidance is actually sufficient and they're doing enough. But
my hope here. By the end of it is that
we will actually have a bit more respect for road
workers than people putting out the road cone, because we'll
be seeing less of it and they'll be less frustration.
People will be able to pick up their kids, go
to work and know that the road cones they're seeing

(20:15):
are genuinely there to reduce their harm and the harm
of people working.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
All I can do is wish you the very best,
appreciate your time, Brook Benfelden, Workplace Relations in safety minutes.
What's the corner over there by TV? And said, what's
it called a Nelson Street?

Speaker 2 (20:27):
And what.

Speaker 13 (20:29):
And Victoriausrea right.

Speaker 3 (20:31):
So yesterday perfect example. So the whole that's a major intersection,
eighteen minutes away from seven. Give me one of my
pasking eighteen minutes away from seven. So that's a major intersection.
Yesterday morning, at about two thirty, I saw the future
and that the whole intersection was being worked on. But
there was a truck, There were a small selection of cones,

(20:54):
not too many, and there were about half a dozen people,
and each and every one of them was actually working.
There were six people working. There were a minimal number
of cones. There was one truck I almost wanted to
stop and say one, congratulations, two take a photo to
prove it so it can be.

Speaker 14 (21:10):
Donetter than If you'd done that, then you would have
caused congestion.

Speaker 3 (21:14):
That's probably true, morning Mike. If you look at the
tariffs countries charged the US, you'd be you'd have to
back Trump, wouldn't you, Adam, that's the best tariff question
I've had yet The answer in a moment seventeen to.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
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Speaker 3 (21:33):
Talksp Adam's excellent question. If you look at the tariffs
that countries charged the US, you'd have to back Trump? Well,
yes and no. And this is where it's a good question.
The UK have a broadly speaking balanced portfolio. In other words,
there's not really a surplus one way or the other. Europe,
not so much Australia. It's in fact in the US's favor,

(21:54):
and yet they're still putting tariffs on Australia New Zealand
balance portfolio. We are free traders where the original free
traders were the ultimate free traders. We don't tear if anybody,
and yet the US are going to put tariffs on
us and that is where Trump is wrong.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
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Speaker 3 (22:15):
Captin Field morning, good morning mane. Yoh boy, oh boys.
So the fine they wanted, they wanted some jail time.
But this banning from the presidential run, how is this
going to implode?

Speaker 18 (22:25):
Well, yeah, what a day. What an earthquake for French politics.
Quickly going over at my a Paris court on Monday
found Marine Lapin, the head of the far right French
party of the National Rally, guilty for being part of
a scheme between twenty and four and twenty sixteen that
diverted funds that meant for European Parliament assistance. Some of

(22:47):
around eight point five million New Zealand dollars they diverted
and used it to pay party workers in France. Now, yeah,
she is barred from running for public office for five years.
She fail is a four year prison term, two of
that suspended. Now she can appeal the prison term. She
cannot appeal that five year ban on running for public

(23:09):
office because Billin and the French Parliament in twenty seventeen,
which said anyone who has found guilty of embezzlement and
her has a casterodial centence, has to be barred from
public office for a time. So really, Mike, just overnight
she found that her dream of climbing the steps up
to the Elisia Palace had disappeared. Her only hope. She's

(23:31):
got two chances, Mike. One is she can go to
the Constitutional Council and say that her being barred from
running for office undermines freedom of elections. That looks unlikely.
The other possibility is that she gets to go back
into the appeal court, she's completely exonerated, and all that
happens within the next year, which, as we know her

(23:52):
French tudicitional system is highly unlikely.

Speaker 3 (23:55):
She's due on television shortly. It'll be fascinating to see
what she has to say. How much difference is there
if you can answer this question, Catherine, between this was
marine le Penn's support of one percent. She was some
fringe nutter on the edge of that no one cared about
versus where she actually is and the implications of that.

Speaker 18 (24:11):
Well, that's exactly right, Mike. I mean, let's not forget
she took over the party in twenty eleven. She took
over from her father. It was a real outsider party.
It was a party that was never really suited for office.
It really did prefer to be the disruptor. She took
it over in twenty eleven, she changed the name of it.
In twenty ten eighteen, she normalized it. She would, I mean,

(24:31):
let's not forget Mike. Twenty twenty two, in the presidential election,
she got what thirteen million votes, forty one percent of
the vote. So this is why it's so important for
her mate, because she thought that in twenty twenty seven,
the tailwinds are all it's all going well for her.
She thought that this her fourth run at the presidency,
was going to be the one that got her over

(24:52):
the line. It's bad news for the party because there
really is no one else who's got the energy or
the no how to be able to to run a
successful presidential camera.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
I was just going to ask that is it plug
and play or is it her? You're voting for her
or you're voting for a movement.

Speaker 18 (25:08):
Well, you're pretty much voting for her. I mean, you know,
all of these far right parties have got one thing
in common, minde, is there's a clan at the center
of it, and then Lapenn clan has been there. Whether
you were there because you were married to a Lapen,
you were married to a niece of Lapen. That was
the core of it. And she had that, and she
had so many party faithfuls lined up behind her because

(25:31):
she was Jo Mahu Lapin's daughter. So it really it
won't be the end of the party in think let's
just wait for a couple of days see how the
party members react. But certainly you're the anointed successor. Jordan
Badella is twenty nine years old. He's got good approval ratings,
but it would be tough for him in such a
short space of time to come up to scratch to

(25:51):
be able to run a presidential campaign.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
Do you want to die?

Speaker 7 (25:54):
All right?

Speaker 3 (25:54):
Appreciate it as always Katherine Catherine Field in France, we
was ten away from seven.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
The my casting breakfast with a Veda retirement. Communities news
togs had been.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Away from seven. So this is what Audrey says this
morning in the Herald. For all the people that go
are what about the mainstream media? Where's the mainstream media?
And the Doyle case it may be. She writes that
questions were asked and answers were given. It may well
be that a story is of such importance and sensitivity
that it's been considered by lawyers. Chloe Swarbrick, she writes,
must surely know that MP's cannot use any words with impunity.

(26:23):
Swarbrick must now by now know that what Doyle thought
was acceptable does not, of you necessarily shared by the
Rainbow community. She must surely know that a party's vetting
process has failed. Peters and his fellow keyboard warriors should
know by now that speculating aloud can have a huge
impact on the more deranged members of society. The voting
public will know by now that the culture wars that

(26:43):
are tearing the US apart are growing part of the
parliamentary process. Here Winston Peters is leading it, but the
Greens are giving them all the ammunition you want, So
she takes a fairly measured view, as does Audreys want.
My concern is this, I cannot overstate the despair I
currently feel about the state of this country generally, and
the political game in general specifically, and the sort of

(27:06):
nonsense that passes for news these days. And this is
a very good example of it. And I'm assuming the
people who are texting me about the Peter Phillia do
understand that the child in the photo is his child.
It's his child is the critical part. And if you're
still texting me and you don't know that, then you're
not following the story properly. What he did was idiotic,

(27:27):
beyond any with any measure. He's an idiot. But equally
the party are idiotic for not offering any sort of guidance.
And there are a bunch of whiners, and there are
a bunch of weird oh's, and I don't take them
remotely seriously. I dismissed the Marry Party. I dismissed the
Greens because I have bigger fish to fry, more important
issues to deal with, and we should all be focused

(27:48):
on big, bigger, bigger issues than this. Sadly, a lot
of people seem to think otherwise. Five minutes away from seven.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
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Speaker 3 (28:03):
Now, some green shoots, more green shoots for the Economy
Centrics credit data number of people behind in payments is
down again. Four hundred and eighty thousand of US are
behind in payments that's eleven thousand down on January Good.
One hundred and seventy five thousand over due by thirty days,
which is seven point three percent better than a year ago.
Seventy three thousand are overdue by more than ninety days.

(28:24):
Been a long time since we've had two consecutive months
of areas dropping, So that's the good side. Mortgage aureas
down good, twenty three thousand people people looking to borrow again,
with new mortgage lending up twenty two percent. Credit card
areas improved slightly. Good, personal loan areas up slightly, vehicle
loan areas up Justice smage zero point one to five
point seven. So the vast majority of us are doing fine.

(28:45):
Thank you those behind on the retail energy payments, they've
dropped now seven percent better than a year ago. Good demand.
Mortgage applications for new homes up thirteen percent year on year,
credit card applications up twenty two But as I always,
I have no idea whether you're applying for credit because
you're desperate and you need it, or you're feeling bollish
and you want to go buy something. Business credit defaults

(29:07):
still bad. Defaults are up eighteen percent year on year
transport and construction the vast majority of cases thirty eight
and thirty five percent, respectively, So that's not good liquidations,
that's a trail number, though liquidations are also up thirty
seven percent. That's always at the end. It's like the jobs,
the last thing to get corrected in an economy. That's
coming right a liquidations and the job numbers, but overall

(29:28):
just a little shade or shard of light. Now the fairies.
Bloker was sitting on the Administerial Advisory Group until he wasn't.
There's a guy called Mark Thompson, so Nikola Willis hired him.
So what's he make of the fairy announcement? We'll also
ask Winston Peters After seven thirty and looking forward to
a catch up after eight Joseph Parker talks World heavyweight
boxing litters as well meantime news as next the news

(29:51):
talk said.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
News, opinion and everything in between. The Mike Hosking breakfast
with the range Rover. The are designed to intrigue.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Can you've to seven past seven? So we got another
piece of sorts. On the next stage of our long
and winding Faerry journey. Companies tender on a slightly bigger
ship than the current ones. They're rail and able, they
don't need new wharves, and they're cheaper than ires now.
The former chair of the Ferry Ministerial Advisory Group, Mark Thompson's, well,
there's Mark, very good morning to you. Good morning Mike,
as I understand that you got involved in all of
this back in twenty fifteen. Do we need to be here?

(30:24):
Has this taken way longer than it ever needed to?
Is this a bit of a shambles?

Speaker 19 (30:29):
Well?

Speaker 20 (30:30):
I don't think anyone could argue that it should have
happened faster, But I guess you know that's all history
now and we can't change that. I guess that the
key now is making sure that whatever we agree right
now actually happens and happens as as quickly and efficiently
as possible.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Did you get anything from Peters yesterday that you couldn't
have got from Willis last year?

Speaker 20 (30:56):
I mean, the problem to be solved hasn't changed, hasn't
changed since twenty fifteen.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
I guess.

Speaker 20 (31:04):
The current fleet is a mix of rail and what
they call ropeck ships. You've got aging infrastructure, so nothing's
changed in terms of what's required. But I guess it's
the challenges when you've got a mix of rail and road.

(31:25):
There's no silver bullet. You know, you've got to overpick
one or the other. In Winston's pick rail, which is fine.
So they just got to get on with it.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Do you worry? I mean, did you do enough work
to work out if you announced what he announced yesterday
put the tenders out, can they build winter tender and
deliver by twenty nine and five years? Four years? In
other words, I.

Speaker 20 (31:46):
Think I think that's a challenge. We know that from
our work in the shipyards in Europe last year that
there's a lot of activity up there, and there's currently
changes in regulations around fuel and everything that current fery

(32:07):
operators in Europe been sitting on their hands waiting for
some sort of steer on future fuel requirements. So there
is a possibility there will be an influx of orders
that could could compromise the timeline that the Winston's talking about.
But it's tight. You know, four years from go to

(32:28):
woe everything will have to you know, you'll have to
have just spinnaker up and have a calm sea.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Is those future proofing or a patch up? What are
he announced?

Speaker 7 (32:41):
Well?

Speaker 20 (32:42):
If you believe that rail is required on the cocks trade.
This gives a solution, but they've got to make sure
because freight is constant and passengers a seasonal, you've got
to make sure that the ship can configuration can can
meet both demands. It's not just one market that's it's
several markets. And therefore the Ratariah used to be able

(33:06):
to do three sailings a day and they've got to
make sure that the new ships can do that to
meet the seasonal demand. Otherwise you're going to really need
three ships.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Which we don't have obviously, Marke appreciate your insight. Mark Thompson,
former chair of the Ferry Ministerial Advisory GRIPS. Something tells
me we'll be talking about fairies for a few milli years.
Yet ten minutes past seven past get the Reserve Bank,
as Andrew told us earlier on moving on its capital
requirements for retail banks, now, this is the amount of
money that banks have to put a side for trouble.
The counter argument from people like the Finance Minister is
the more you have to put aside, the more expensive

(33:37):
doing business becomes. The former Reserve Bank banker Reserve Banker
Michael Riddell is back. Well, it's Michael, very good morning
to you. This announcement yesterday from Quigley the chair. Is
this political or do they genuinely want to.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Have a look.

Speaker 20 (33:52):
Such?

Speaker 21 (33:52):
I suspect most of it as they've read the tea
leaves on the wider environment. There's been a lot of
back from both these community bankers and the Minister of
Finances herself, and so you know the uncertainty here. Is
it a serious review or is it sort of window dressing?

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (34:10):
Is it easily quantified? The number? Can you look at
other countries, other size economies and go, well, this is
what it happens X equals wine come up with a.

Speaker 21 (34:18):
Number not quite that simply, but you should be able
to make big steps in that direction. You know, take
let's take Australia or you know, Mark Sweden fromong those
sorts of places as perhaps and look at what capital
they require to be held against particular house and exposures,
what capital ratios that require an aggregate for similar types

(34:40):
of leaning books. Yeah, you shouldn't be able to get
to those numbers, and the Bank never did that openly
in that twenty nineteen review when Adrian put on such
high So one of the tests is how open they're
willing to be. Another is that said they're bringing in
international experts. Well, as always you choose your own experts.
They've got to choose people who are genuinely independent and

(35:02):
are open to change, which is.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
My next thing. If they do change, does this prove
it was an Adrian thing?

Speaker 21 (35:09):
Oh, it was very clear it was an Adrian thing.
Everything in the or years was dominant personality. But you know,
the question still is will they changed very much? And
I heard Hawksby say yesterday at we see that they
still think their stance is defensible. So it'll be a
bit surprising if they changed very much. Maybe they take
the last percent off the increase in the capital requirements.

(35:31):
And you know, one of the uncertainties also is you
know who is the new governor. This is a review
that go take the next six to nine months. You'd
certainly hope we have a new governor in place by
the end, and that person should have a Simian influence
and should want to have material influence and was thinking
before the bar amongst the final decisions.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Good stuff, Michael, appreciate your expertise as always, Michael Ridell
form a reserve banker. And the argument from the retail
banks is, of course, and has been for years, that
the reason the margins are so much higher here than
they are at retail level from the Australia in partners
is because of the cost of the reserve banks. So
the reserve bank gets whipped into shape them presumably the
margins squeeze as well. So we'll look forward to that,
won't we. Thirteen minutes past seven current polling Labor along

(36:11):
with the Greens and Murray Party can win the twenty
twenty six election. Voters need to have their eyes open
to the values and behavior of the people who are
potentially unex government. Very good point. That's the point I'm
super happy to engage in. And I'll tell you why,
because it's not as much the Green's problem as there's
Labour's problem. How Labor get around this and how they
deal with it, and how they answer it or don't

(36:32):
answer it is going to be the great discussion point
of twenty twenty six from their point of view. My
can'd despair about the politics. Also, I wonder whether shifting
back to first pass the post is ever going to
be a possibility. Answer No, it is not, Mike, I
share your despair. Unfortunately, when the Greens command ten percent
of the vote, someone has to take them seriously. Well know,
you don't not unless they're going to be in government,
and they're going to be in government. That's at the
behest of the Labour Party. And that's why you need

(36:54):
to go back to the Labor Party. But ask yourself
this Tamotha Paul, who up until yesterday was the was
the posted child for the Greens idiocy. Ask yourself the
Wellington Central good morning. Explain to me what you saw
in her majority six thousand. Explain to me what you
saw in her what part of the defunding of the
police idea you thought was brilliant and you wanted some

(37:15):
more of that please? Or was it the dejaying skills
that she's brought to the Parliament. You voted for it,
you want it, You seemingly like it. Same with Chloe Swarbrick,
who increasingly looks to be the most inept and hopeless
leader the Greens have ever had as their party slowly
but surely implodes with personal problems, but people seemingly want it.
So answer that question, why do you vote for it?

Speaker 1 (37:37):
Fourteen past the Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on
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Speaker 3 (37:44):
Talks ab US talksv Joseph Parker aftert for you Winston
Peters in a couple of moments on the Ferries Now.
The vexed relationship between Auckland Airport and the airlines got
another airing yesterday, as we told you on the program
when it broke as the Commerce Commission report into the
airport's charges was released. Mixed bag. ComCom says the forecast
revenue was too high and the charging around planned upgrades
that was okay. The Auckland Airport CEO is Kerry Hudahunganui,

(38:06):
who is with us. Very good morning to you.

Speaker 16 (38:08):
Good morning mate.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
I noticed you moved as quickly as you could yesterday
once the ComCom release came out. Were you simply testing
the water to try it on until you get told otherwise?

Speaker 19 (38:19):
No, not all. I mean that's the ragime working as
it's intended to. We had sat in the draft report
that came out in July last year that if they
continued to see a difference in that range than what
we'd targeted for, we would move, and we did. The
difference really being about probably how you treat comparative sets
and risk off the back of the pandemic, probably being

(38:40):
that the funnel driver of that difference of view on
what that targeted return should be. If you take that
into account.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Do you accept what the ComCom says because they're right
or because you have to.

Speaker 17 (38:55):
Listen as one of the.

Speaker 19 (38:55):
Things, because it does come to risk, right, and risk
is one of those elements that is not always black
and white. Certainly, coming out of the pandemic, you saw
that play right.

Speaker 17 (39:05):
And a lot of that risk sits.

Speaker 19 (39:07):
With the airport, and when you invest in infrastructure, if
the passengers don't turn out, for example, we've had a
slower recovery and tourism across in Vettings, then we plan
to that risk sits with the airport, that doesn't sit
with others. So no, I think it's that element of
the regime balancing all of those things in the long
term interests of the consumers, actually not in the short

(39:28):
term interests of airlines or airports for that matter.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
The advantage you have is, of course, per passenger, it's
a handful of sets of not a couple of bucks,
as opposed to some of the stuff you're arguing about
about the increase in the cost of airlines, is the
relationship you have with your customers i e. The airlines
more fractious than it should be.

Speaker 17 (39:48):
I think you need to probably split it out, Mike.

Speaker 19 (39:51):
And what I say is that at operationally running safe
seamless operations is the goal of both airlines and airports.
There's a symbific real relationship there. We rely on each
other for our fortunes. So on a day to day
basis and looking towards things like future innovation or technology, we.

Speaker 17 (40:08):
Work really well together. Every five years, when you get
into pricing, there is always tension and it is fractious.
Nobody wants to cost to go up, which is understandable.
We're facing those pressures as well. So I think the
pricing conversations are different than what I would describe kind
of the day to day and ongoing relationship.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
Appreciate your companies almost carry Ho tohung ANDOUI. Who's the
Auckland their airport? So other things on the Commerce Commission yesterday,
which I thought was really interesting. I may be overreading it,
but they would due to make their decision on the
Contact Energy takeover at Manua massive decision and massive deal
in a world I would have thought this didn't stand
a hope in hell of getting clearance on I may

(40:49):
be completely wrong, but they delayed their decision until March nine.
They didn't say why, but we'll stand by to stand by.
Let's go back to Wellington in just a moment. Seven Ty.

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twenty four. I sort of hinted at this the other

(42:12):
day when the monitor for the Wellington City Council put
out a second report. Now my question was given there
was leaking and dysfunction still and the punter allegedly was
at their wits end. What now?

Speaker 21 (42:23):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (42:23):
What now? Do we just get more and more reports?
Well lo and behold another. Wellington Operations had their own
monitor in the form of the Commerce Commission. Yes, the
aforementioned Commerce Commission, who have been brought in to oversee
the mess at Wellington Water. Now the Minister has not
seen any improvement, apparently no real change and unless stuff happens,
there are rate rises gil or for no real gain. Also,
he says, so once again we ask what do the

(42:45):
Commist Commission do? Do they write reports as well? And
if those reports tells the place is still as shambles,
how many reports does it take for someone somewhere to
actually fire up a little bit of action? I can
also add, and this is an overarching observation, just how
dysfunctional does well Wellington need to get before it literally
implodes on itself? The electric changes last week they were

(43:05):
all in Wellington? Why because people have left? And to
be frank, who can blame them? Then we come to
Tamotha Paul, who made what most observers seemed to suggest
was one of the most extraordinary comments about the police
anyone's ever heard. Ever, her good friends and labor called
them stupid, The Prime Minister call her insane, and yet
she holds an electorate. As I mentioned to biomet Ago,
are the good people of Wellington Central And by no
small margin, I might add, they looked at her credentials,

(43:27):
they decided all they liked. They liked her enough to
vote for her. Sir Wellington, what's the story, eh? What
level of madness and dysfunction are you willing to tolerate
before change comes? Is change ever coming? Do you actually
want change? Do you mind paying a lot more than
you need to for stuff that doesn't work? I mean
it's a crummy council, a lot of broken pipes in
a mad mpok. As long as I don't know you,

(43:49):
cycle ways are fun to ride on. Did I mention
the trains can't beat Wellington on a good day? So
when Wellington was your last good day? And why are
you putting up with it? Hoskington twenty six. I knowe
that Radio New Zealand, using our money, taxpayers money, have
entered into the world of polling. So they appear to

(44:09):
have taken over the Read Research poll that TV three
has dropped or stuff has dropped because they don't have
any money. So it's now the Radio New Zealand Red
Research poll, which I welcome to be fair because the
more polling the better we all like a poll. So
this morning there is a poll, their first poll. It's
their inaugural poll. Oh my god, it's almost as exciting
as a liberation day tomorrow. But here is the poll.
What did the numbers tell us National Act in New Zealand? First?

(44:31):
When the election. If an election was held today, that
gets sixty two seats, which is enough to govern national
thirty three percent, Labour on thirty two, Act Are on nine,
New Zealand First on seven, Green Party on ten. Don't
believe it to party Marion five has never happened, never
will So the poll's wrong, obviously, but it's still fun.
Undecided six point one percent at this particular point in time.

(44:54):
The key number which is interesting is the country going
in the right direction. Forty three points five percent say yes,
so let's start that tide's turning for the government. Forty
three point five say yes, forty percent say wrong. So
when the tide is in the right direction, the government
of the day generally wins. Let's talk ferries with the

(45:16):
rail Minister or the ferry Minister Winston Peters. After the
break ahead of Joseph Parker in the studio.

Speaker 20 (45:21):
After eight.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
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Speaker 3 (45:35):
Let's look forward to the catch up with Joseph Parker
when he's in the studio where it's after raid the
clock this morning, meantime of twenty three minutes away from
back to the wharf as we await the arrival of
the new ferries by twenty twenty nine. What we got
yesterday two fairies, a little bit bigger than the current ones.
They can take cars, do rail and people. They won't
need a new infrastructure and they will be a great

(45:57):
deal cheaper than the whole Iras miss anyway, Minster Winston Peters.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
Is with us.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
Very good morning to you.

Speaker 5 (46:03):
Good morning.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
A lot of questions this morning about the third ship.
Do are we not getting a third ship because we
wouldn't need one with the two, or because we can't
afford it.

Speaker 22 (46:13):
The reality is we don't need one. We've got bigger, better, faster,
more mobile ships coming. The contract will be not two
years as usual getting ready will take only nine months
to do that, so everything's being speeded up and we've
got options between the ship builders. They don't know who
they are. There'll be a serious contest and we're very
confident of the outcome.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
Do you know what they're going to be giving you
by way of a ship? Are you down that far
down the track or not?

Speaker 22 (46:40):
They'll be given all the specifications and they'll have to
meet those specifications in that tender.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
Okay, how confident on a scale of one to ten,
ten being your bulletproof confident that it can be sorted
and delivered with no delays, no excuses by twenty twenty nine.

Speaker 22 (46:56):
Well, we're seriously confident about that because we've talked to
some of the shipbuilders. I went and saw the Koreans
and talked to them about the mess that they were
having to deal with. How we'd handle it. The so
called break fee with them is going to be far
less than the three hundred million. They understand. They want
to be a competitor, but we've also got other competitors
in there as well. We cannot tell you who they're

(47:17):
going to be, so that they don't know each other
and can scheme up against us. We're going to go
about this what you do as a tough trader and
ensure we get the best outcome. So I'm very confident
going forward that what we're going to have is what
this country needs. In fact, Mike uk Massive and the
dog and hop on there and get to the South
Island just like we used to do.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
Okay, So the Koreans are they favored because there's some
sort of you know issue around the contract previously, or
does everyone go in even Stevens.

Speaker 22 (47:47):
The latter, everyone will going even Stevens have been no preference.
We've got a very experienced team in the holding company
we've set up. We've got some people who know what
they're doing. They have been in this business a long
time terms of proper procurement process. That's why we're able
to speed everything up, and that's why we're able to
answer it with great speed. The mess we were in
hereded last December and put it together, take out the

(48:10):
Christmas from two months flat.

Speaker 20 (48:11):
We've done it.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
What did you give us yesterday that Willis couldn't have
given us in December?

Speaker 22 (48:17):
Well, the problem was she was here is a nightmare
that was was mina cost four hundred and one million
dollars had blown out to four billion dollars in which
eighty percent was infrastructure. No one knew how on earth
that happened. And then she had to stop it right then.
And people said, no, you should keep on building those
big ships which we're not going to use, and then

(48:37):
you can sell them. Now you're selling on a bias
mark and you're going to get ripped off two times.
So she had to make that decision, and that she
had an outfit call the ministry or advisory group who
advised her on only one option that's rail enabled only,
and they didn't look at the other options. When we
looked at all the options, the one that came out,
and all these experienced people said the one that came

(48:59):
up was the best. That was the carry on with
the traditional rail on rode on. The kind of decision
that was made by some smart politicians back when we
used to be number one in the world. Yeah, making
the same decision again.

Speaker 3 (49:12):
I don't want to cause a fight here, but it
seems to me that and I don't care. Look if
we get fairies, that's fine, whatever. But what I'm saying
it looks to me like your pro rail, she probably
wasn't as pro rail. You got the job, are you're
going to get some rail fairies?

Speaker 4 (49:24):
Is that?

Speaker 3 (49:24):
Because it just seems a lot of time from the
cancelation of ires to where we are now. And I
can't see why it's taken so long.

Speaker 22 (49:33):
Well, because look when you start off with a project
that was in May of twenty twenty when I charged
them with going to find two fairies for four hund
and one million dollars that was captured that to come
back and find in twenty twenty one, they were signing
up to a contract that would blow out, as Treasure
I said, to four and more than four billion dollars.
It's a nightmare. Four Minister Finance. She's trying to get
a head around an economy where borrow and hope was

(49:56):
the plan. Nothing that was ever going to work, and
she's taken a long time to get on top. But
so she's been absolutely, in my view, vindicated, and she
had enough wisdom to say when we said, hang on,
we think we've got a better option, can you look
at it? And she said, okay, you have a look
at it and see.

Speaker 3 (50:09):
If you can do it.

Speaker 22 (50:09):
And that's what they did last December. So she'd made
two wise decisions in my view. And why she's blamed,
why she's blamed for trying to fix up a message
beyond me.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
Why are you wading into the Benjamin Doyle thing.

Speaker 22 (50:23):
Because it is simply outrageous, it's disgusting, and nobody in
the mainstream media was asking any questions at all. You've seen
other members of Parliament with a post, just one post
being pillar read and ripped part by the mainstream media.
And here's this outrageous, disgusting sort of online stuff going on,

(50:43):
with all these lousy excuses for it now, and they're
trying to say that it's just picking on Rainbow people. No,
I've got thousands and thousands of Rainbow people contacting me
and I can show you online now who are saying,
mister Peters, keep going, this.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Is not us, what should happen?

Speaker 22 (51:01):
Well, my question is why haven't the man treat people
ask the Green Party what is going wrong with your party?
How can you possibly image that as the party that
was started off by fitz Simon's way back then.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Ye see here's well look, let me answer on behalf
of at least me. I just find that. I just
think we've got so many issues in this country to
deal with that weird o's in the Green Party can
be parked to one side. I mean, if we were
sailing fantastically and life was brilliant, sure we can dabble
with us, but we got bigger fish to fry right now.
And I just don't know that fringe nutters is a

(51:34):
topic of conversation at length that we want to involve
ourselves with. I mean, you can't be Look at you, mate,
You're one weekend you're with Marco Rubio sorting out one
of the most important times in our life, and then
the next minute you're dabbling with Doyle and his bloody
social media.

Speaker 5 (51:51):
Yeah, tell you what.

Speaker 22 (51:52):
Because this country is a great democracy was begun in
eighteen fifty four. We've got Murray voting in eighteen sixty
seven women and eight ninety three. We're a world leader
on law and or on reforms, and we have some
fundamental Western principles and ethics. That's what I'm standing out for.
If you think they're a mere bagtel, I disagree with you.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
If you allow this.

Speaker 22 (52:11):
Discussing thing to be the image from Parliament, then I
tell you what we're going to do with it. This
country's not democracy is not going to be worth knowing about.
Walking into Parliament with all sorts of heat barbs on
and all.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
Sorts of gear on barefoot.

Speaker 22 (52:23):
It is a disgrace.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
I get it, and I hear it. But Winston Tamotha Paul,
the people of Central Wellington, Wellington Central looked at her
and they said, we love it. We want more of it,
and she got a majority of six thousand. Now, I
don't argue that that's right. I'm just saying that's democracy,
and you can't argue with democracy.

Speaker 5 (52:40):
That's right.

Speaker 22 (52:40):
You can't argue with democracy, but you can make sure
that in a democracy, the people know what they're in for.
She won't win an a seat next time. I'm telling
you now, not with Frori and all the other the
three k's moving into her electorate. But here's the point
when you say that you'd be far you feel far
safer with a gang and the dark alley than you
would be a policeman or policewoman, and you've lost the plot.

(53:01):
This is disgusting.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
But ultimately on Doyle, what should happen? I mean should
have been in front of the police. I mean pointing
it out's one thing. That's fine. So we pointed out,
So where does it go? Does it go to the police? Well,
I mean, what do you do the guys a List
member and a Green Party they're unusual people who would
defend this until they're blue in the face. They are
what they are.

Speaker 22 (53:18):
No look, elements of the system have one rule for
one group of politicians and a different rule for another one.
You've got to party Mayra and Nair's broke every electoral
rule there is broken. The charities acting against they're still
parked up there acting in total illegality, and no one's
calling an account. I went through three court cases which
when I was totally innocent, I've proved and smashed the
Serious War Office, and the media wouldn't give me any

(53:40):
credit at all. See what's going wrong in this country?
We have got We've got a massive failure. It's Semis
by your not the failure, but Simmis by your program.
You hear both sides of the story. But the mainstream
media I just want to hear one side of the story,
and that's the Left.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
Appreciate your time. When Stimpeter's Royal Minister and commentator on
events of the day seven forty five good.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
The Mike Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered
by News Talks, it'd be Mike.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
How refreshing's Winston? I don't know, reasonably refreshing Mike, love
him or hate? And Winston's like fine wine. He seems
to get better with age. Here's my observation of Winston.
He needs a purpose in life. And he's got a purpose,
not necessarily that specifically in what you just heard, a
bit of purpose of being foreign minister. And I mean
that was a guy on fire, seventy nine years old
about to turn eighty. That guy's on fire. I've had

(54:29):
him on this program where you think, how many was
it last night? Winston? How late have you just got up?
Was the alarm? You know what I mean? You're talking
about two completely different people. The guy's got purpose more Winston, please, Mike.
Never thought I'd say, but Winston would be prime minister.
Go Winston. Totally agree, Winston one hundred percent right, Winston
kep blah blah blah blah. And so it goes on
a very good point from earlier on Mike. I've just
been making a list of all the Green Party problems

(54:53):
and the people who have been in trouble, rather than
making excuses for many of her party members. Chloe Swarbrick
needs to be a real leader and publicly show she
won't tolerate this behavior. Well, in that very good point
is also your problem. She will only do that if
she thinks you're right, but she doesn't. She's right, you're not.
And she's one of them. She's no different. I don't

(55:13):
know why you would think by her simply being leader
that she would suddenly not be what she is, which
is exactly the same as they are. They're all the same.
They're all highly unusual people. And the best point Winston
made a moment ago was this is nothing like the
party of Jeanet fitz Simon. So if you go back
to Rod Donald and Janet fitz Simon's, which I can
and Winston obviously can, they were a genuine green party.

(55:36):
And I've said this on the program a million times.
If you got in this country like the Germans do,
a proper green party, an environmental party, you would be
doing well. But they're not. They're all social engineers, stalinists,
Marxist nutters, weirdos, wonks, highly unusual people that don't represent
any anything mainstream, farless the environment. Think about the last

(55:59):
time they talked about the environment, Minindez March whining about
behavior and leather jackets, and yesterday about Peter Filler and
social media and Tamotha Paul defunding the police and being
a DJ. Where do plants, national parks, frogs, the environment,
any of that come into it. You don't hear any

(56:19):
of that mention. They're not a Green Party anymore, and
I think they're happy not being a Green party. But
then I go to this morning's poll ten percent, they'll
take it ten away from it.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
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toksdad b seks.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
Away from it. James Shaw Mike got out just in time.
I mean, you think about what James Shaw stood for
Jeanette fitz Simon's Rod mcrod donald. How uncomfortable would James
Shaw be right now dealing with what he was dealing
with yesterday. If he was still the leader of the
Greens Party, he would have been sick and read in
the face with embarrassment. Basically. Andrew Vance wrote very well

(56:58):
of Tamoutha Paul over the weekend. She said was a
lengthy piece, but she said, timoth Paul is what happens
when politicians get their ideology from TikTok. I mean, doesn't
that sum it up perfectly? In the Chloe Swarbrick era,
She writes, the Greens have been reduced to a caucus
of anarkitties. It's quite good posting out a flood of
social justice clickbait. They indulge in culturally progressive obsessions, moored

(57:21):
and symbolism and identity, none of which is accompanied by
economic or material analysis. This makes them the instagram v
reality of politics. And that's all been under Chloe Swarbricks,
rain and watch, and they seem to embrace it, and
they seem to like it. Let me ask you this question,
one of those please actually glean five minutes away from

(57:42):
eight asking let me ask you this question, so hawks
By first of all, I was right when I asked
about the wine the other day. I had a suspicion
that there are certain regions around the country, as the
picking continues at this particular point in time in the
wine industry, that this could well be one of the
great vintages of all time. Because I'm sorry for the
farmers who are really dry and would like some water.
I do note this morning that the media watched the

(58:03):
media in the next couple of days with the atmospheric river.
There's an atmospheric river coming, and you just stand by
for the Herald to produce eight hundred and twelve thousand
stories between now and then.

Speaker 13 (58:13):
Please tell me it's not going to be a weather bomb.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
It's not a weather bomb, not it's not a bomb,
but it is a river. It's an atmospheric river, and
it is headed our way. So it is only Tuesday.
So we'll have.

Speaker 13 (58:25):
Stories for changes wrong about that, either that we're not wrong.

Speaker 3 (58:28):
About us not. You can't go and take the seriously glen.
It's an atmospheric river anyway. So for all the farmers
who are dry, apologize, But grapes love a bit of
dryness in hawks By. I know they're talking about this
vintage being as good as thirteen. If you know anything
about wine, thirteen was one of an ethereal vintage, one
of the greats, and so I think that they will
not be alone in having a particularly spectacular vintage. All

(58:51):
of which is very good. But I'm reading about solar
and Hawk's Bay and the small town of Ongong is
going to be surrounded by three solar farms. And the
question then is how many solar farms? Has too many
solar farms and how big they need to be. One
is one hundred and forty four hectares, the other one,
the small one's thirty and the third one is two
hundred and thirty nine. So you've got just quick maths

(59:12):
for you had about four hundred and fifty hectares of
solar panels around a small town. Now I like a
solar panel personally. I'm not against a wind turbine, and
I'm not against a solar panel. But at four hundred
and fifty hectares for as far as the eye can
see and further, that's a lot of I mean, yes,

(59:36):
it's renewable, fantastic, But if you're in the middle of that,
what's that due to your quality of life? And that's
sort of in a way where we are heading stand.

Speaker 5 (59:45):
By Ding Ding.

Speaker 3 (59:47):
Joseph Parker is next.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
Setting me agenda and talking the big issues, the mic Hosking,
breakfast with al Vita, retirement, communities, life your way, togs.

Speaker 3 (01:00:03):
A certain past day time for a couple of rounds
with Joseph Parker. It was supposed to be then Neal Dubois.
Of course that he got ill, or did he? Anyway,
they found a bloke in the Congo who stepped up
under you get beaten up quite badly. A rematch with
Dubai is possible, although Dubois and you sick might happen first,
Although should you sick fight Parker first, and where does

(01:00:23):
Anthony Josh are flitting to all of this? Geez, how
many questions Joseph Parker is with.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
That sounds you know what? That sounds confusing? Well, listen
to you trying to explain it. It is quite a
confusing sort of scenario.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Isn't that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:00:37):
Help good to see you, by the way, And so
you've been on holiday and beautiful you look amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:00:43):
Beautiful time of the family, had a great holiday, s
morphiji bull of a knacka talofa I'm happy and I'm
back there.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
You go, So let me just just help us work
through what's going on here. So the Dubois thing could
be a rematch, but we don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
It could be a rematch. But the Yusick and du
bois looking at unifying the belts. The Boy has one
title and Usk has three titles, So unification does trumpet
a mandatory. They've made me mandatory, which means I should
fight Yusick next. But there's a lot of things happening
in the background where they're trying to make this big
fight against the Boy and music. Then you have Jasaora

(01:01:19):
jumping in the mix. He's been ordered to fight du Bois,
So There's a lot of different ways that this will
play out.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
Right, where do you sit right now this morning talking
to me? You don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
I have no idea what's happening next. All I can
all I'm focused on now is just training. I got
George Locker here in New Zealand, training, eating, spending time
of the family, finding a good balance in life. But
at the moment, I have absolutely no idea who I'm
fighting next.

Speaker 3 (01:01:41):
How do you prepare physically for something that you don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:01:46):
I am driven and I'm motivated. My goal is to
become champion of the world. My next goal is to
become unified champion, undisputed. So because I have these goals
in mind, I'm doing everything I can now to prepare.
But I don't even know next. But I love it.
I don't know what's thanks about. I love it. I
love my job. I love waking up every day. I'm

(01:02:06):
always in good mood at the moment because I'm at
a deficit in terms of eating, which means I'm eating
less food. I do get grumpy a lot faster with
the kids. Sorry kids, Sorry life, But I love it.
I love it because I enjoy what I do, and
this purpose.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
We were talking about the software and the Lockhart thing
is interesting. What appears to me to have happened to
you is in the last couple of years, you've got
some people around you that have enhanced your ability to fight,
that have immeasurably improved who you are and what you're about.
Is that fair?

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
That is fair? As a fighter, you think you know everything,
or you think you know most of it, and you
think you have the best balance in life or the
best balance in training. But I was missing all of that.
Now I have the perfect balance in terms of strength conditioning, boxing, training, recovery,
strength conditioning, I mean nutrition. And I found the team

(01:03:01):
that works for me, Andy Lee, George Locket and myself
putting in the work and we make a great team.
David Higgins doing the negotiations and behind the scenes.

Speaker 3 (01:03:09):
Okay, Andy, Andy Lee, he seems to have made a
measurable difference. He seems to be really good at what
he does.

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
Andy, I always had and in he's been the best.
But the one thing that I was missing was George
the strength condition of nutrition, which I now I understand
how important it is. The food that you eat helps
with recovery, helps with sleep, helps of energy.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Yeah, it's amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
Is amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
Food is the answer? Is everything the gut, the gut,
the microbiome, or what you eat, how you eat.

Speaker 4 (01:03:35):
I feel like we don't even understand all of that,
and I'm only I'm only understanding that now and learning
about it more every day.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
Is I h got anything to do with it? In
that broad heavyweight idea that you you grow into being
a champion at the right age, you need to begin
your thirties or thereabouts.

Speaker 4 (01:03:52):
The prime time for a heavyweight is thirty onwards, and
I do feel like I'm growing into that prime time,
and I've given myself a few years to be involved
in the boxing. But as as a heavyweight, thirty onwards
is good. For the lighter weights, it's once you hit
thirty you sort of decline. And I'm not sure why
there's a big difference. Maybe the young the lighter fighters

(01:04:13):
for a lot more punches, sure, and the heavyweights do
pick their shots and throw big bombs. But for us
thirty onwards as prime.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20):
I should I suppose to ask you about Dubois and.

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
The bloke you've thought, Martin Bercoli.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
Yeah, I'd never heard of him.

Speaker 4 (01:04:28):
I've had a lot of experience spiring him. He is
one tough man. Like even though I got him out
in the second round, then punches he landed did hurt?

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
Was that disappointing for you? I mean, how disappointed to
get him out? No?

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
Listen, I can only control what I can control?

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
So that was Is that true when you say that?

Speaker 4 (01:04:45):
Because it is true? Like if you ask the team
when they when d the fight and they said Martin
mccaulis next, I say, bring him on. Well, what can
I control is how I prepare for the fight. My
mindset and just staying focused on.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
That's a good way. That's good way to be. I
couldn't have handled it. I would have gone the guys cheating,
get in his hotel room fight he's not real dragon.

Speaker 4 (01:05:06):
Because I feel like there's why worry about things you
can't know?

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
So Dubois, so we don't know where we're at. What
would you like to do?

Speaker 4 (01:05:15):
What I like to do is fight d bi okay
and and reschedule the fight because he is.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
So you win that and you get the title, his title.

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
I wind that I'll get his title.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
Then you're onto USI pres and then you get then
you get his titles.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
Yeah, undisputed probably be the biggest and the best achievement
ever in boxing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
So if you could, if you could, if it was possible,
you are two fights away from being the undisputed heavyweight championship.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
Well, it's very possible.

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
Unfortunately that's not going to happen though, is it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
Unfortunately it looks like things are the other way. It
looks stay to Bay and you said probably fight, Yeah,
and I'm just going to stay patient and do.

Speaker 5 (01:05:49):
You have to wait?

Speaker 21 (01:05:50):
Though?

Speaker 3 (01:05:50):
So if du Boy and Usick fight, is there then
automatically a rematch in that contract.

Speaker 4 (01:05:55):
No, that's not unless they have a sounds so compid.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Well, it is complicated. It is complicated. But you would
want if you would say you're lost to you Sik,
you'd want a shot again at those titles, wouldn't of course, right,
So that then just delays you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
It just delays me what I am.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
And Higgins said the other day, he suggested, Joshua, where's
Joshua in all this?

Speaker 4 (01:06:19):
Joshua lost to Daniel Dubois, so he's looking for a
comeback fight. I don't feel like he's the money fight
as well, because of the big draw, a big name.
He puts bumps on seats. I'm not looking for a
big money fight. I'm looking for a title fight. I'm
not going to become a champion of the world. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
But the problem is that the money men want the money.

Speaker 21 (01:06:37):
Fight.

Speaker 4 (01:06:37):
Money men want the money, and the money men make
the cause.

Speaker 3 (01:06:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
So you know sometimes they say you're fighting this guy
and this is what you're getting, and you all you
have to say is Okay, I'm ready.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
I got to take a break. That cap you're wearing, yes,
do you buy them?

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
Yeah, I'm going to start making them. And this it
says two time on it, because that's my goal to
become two time world champion.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
Fantastic. I got to get one of those.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
I go.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
My wife says, I look stupid in caps.

Speaker 4 (01:07:04):
This cap will change all of that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
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Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
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Speaker 3 (01:07:17):
Talks seventeen past eight, Joseph Parker is our guest in
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Speaker 4 (01:07:22):
You know what eleven? Eleven out of ten?

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
You look?

Speaker 4 (01:07:26):
This morning?

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
My wife will be listening, and I've got the tech
from of you so sorry? So you don't want the
money fight? Joshua is the money fight. So do you
think you may have to put up with that?

Speaker 4 (01:07:38):
Sorry, I'll say you don't want the money fight because
you want the titles. Yeah, if that's the only fight
on the line, you have to take the only option,
you'll take any fight. I want to. I want to
be a fighter who keeps active. I want to keep
fighting because the only way to progress and get better
and get closer to the title is to keep fighting.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
Where's Joshua at? Do you reckon? He doesn't strike me
as something happened to him. I think personally, for what
it's worth, I think he won. He got a huge
amount of money, and he lost his mental edge, and
he's not as interested as he once was.

Speaker 4 (01:08:06):
I feel yeah, I feel like the last fight I
saw of Duboi, he just couldn't handle that type of
stale and someone who chased him down the ring and
put it on him from the beginning. And it's probably
that's probably how you're going to beat him. Anyone who
wants to fight in the future, that's probably how you're
going to beat him.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
Because I didn't see use it coming either in the
sense when you beat Fury, I thought, oh yeah, for enough,
and maybe that you got lucky. But twice you can't
argue with he's clearly.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
When you break it down yu six footwork, his hand movements,
his fans, everything about him he does perfectly. And that's
that's something that's someone I would love to fight, just
to test myself against the best in the world on.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
A scale of the is he the best outside of you?
So so you and whom you would see as the
two best boxes in the world, better than Justora, better
than du Boire.

Speaker 4 (01:08:53):
Better than Dubois, better than in order to say that
I need to test myself against.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
Of course, is Fury out for good? Do you think?

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
I think he's out at the moment, enjoying family time
and enjoying time for himself. But boxing one of the
things we can't leave it alone. And I feel like
Tyson's addicted to boxing, addicted to training, addicted to camp,
addicted to life inside boxing.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
Because he's one of those correct me if I'm wrong.
He's he seems to be able to do whatever he
wants in life and then get back to camp and
get himself in the sort of shape. He seems like
a freak like that.

Speaker 4 (01:09:26):
He is a freak. And when I did a train
of him, he is a beast best of a beast
of a man and a fighter. Yeah, but at the
moment he is I mean he has retired a few
times to come back.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:09:38):
My thing is that when you retire, I think you
should say out of the sport and enjoy your life
and then do something else what I would.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
Do so well, yeah, well I read somewhere Higgins said
this is this is it for you. So you've got
about a year left? Is that what I read?

Speaker 4 (01:09:51):
About two years left?

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
Two years left?

Speaker 4 (01:09:52):
Yeah, thirty five years old, sometime in about thirty five.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
So you win a title, you win all the titles.
You are the undisputed heavyweight champion of the world, and
you do what.

Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
Defend them a few times? Yes, and then when I'm
thirty five, it just says I'm about to turn thirty six,
I'll retire.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
But do you lose them and retire or do you
hold them and retire.

Speaker 4 (01:10:12):
Hold them and retire? Would be you retire just like
what Lenox laws.

Speaker 3 (01:10:16):
Did you retire to the champion of the world.

Speaker 4 (01:10:18):
Champion of the world, undisputed unified champion, of the world.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
Let's say that's true, and we all wanted to believe
it is. At that point, what do you how do
you feel the rest of your life given that that's
the I mean, no one gets that moment.

Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
No one gets that buzz or that moment of winning
a fight or celebrating after a fight. But when you've
achieved everything you set out to achieve, and you have
a beautiful, loving family who just at home waiting for
you and your content, then it's some for you to
do something else. And I just got it's just about
setting goals. If you have other goals in life that

(01:10:52):
you want to achieve, go and do that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
That's fantastic. I enjoy your company. I always enjoy your company.
I'm glad you could come and thank you because you
didn't have to. And the cap I will give back
to you. But keep it because how many of these
are there?

Speaker 4 (01:11:07):
There's one more left in my house.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
There's two. This is one of two.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
It's one of ten.

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m z asking my photo of a cap. Yes, no,
we've taken a photo of the obligatory cap. It's actually
quite a cool cap. It's cream ish and I was
going to say burgundy, but that's that's been mean to
the color it actually is. It's a it's a it's
a it's a burgundy ish red. Look at it online,

(01:12:41):
you'll see it. And it's got stitched in the back
two time for a two time champion, and then team
Parker is stitched in the front Team Parker. It's a
super cool cap. And I got sent to cap the
other day by the good people at Sawmill who make beer,
and that turned up in my in my letterbox, and
I told the letterbox story because that was a long
winded story about my letter box. I only discovered there

(01:13:02):
was beer in my letterbox through some sort of social
media application that my wife was running at the time. Anyway,
they sent very nicely a cap, and that was a
cap I put on because they were so excited about it.
And my wife said to me, she said, actually that
doesn't look too bad now. I ran with that, knowing
that there were caps out there that that I can
look good in.

Speaker 13 (01:13:22):
You'd have to say that the red bull one.

Speaker 5 (01:13:25):
Do you like?

Speaker 13 (01:13:25):
The red bull one wasn't one? No, that looked good?

Speaker 14 (01:13:28):
Apparently not, and neither was the The other hat that
they supplied as well, was that.

Speaker 3 (01:13:34):
The Luke Combs one. Now I got a Luke comnbes.

Speaker 13 (01:13:37):
You got a lot of hats I got.

Speaker 3 (01:13:39):
I gotta look at your hat stand. Oh, the women's
cricket one, I look good in that. I thought I
got a women's cricket one. But the red bull one
I got. I got a red bull one the other
day before certain things happened. But anyway, so I wouldn't
wear that anyway. Even if I did look good in
the cap, I wouldn't wear a red bull cap throwing
to the ground and stamp there exactly. So anyway, I
didn't look good in the red Craol cap. But now

(01:14:00):
I've got a Team Parker cap.

Speaker 13 (01:14:01):
Apparently Liam didn't look good at it either did the
who was it?

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
This morning? I was reading it was well, Sonda has
already said that he's driven the twenty one on the
SIM and it's not that hard to drive, so oh wow,
So there you go and he's also aiming for a
podium this weekend in Japan, so that is that is
fighting talk. I wish him well, but hell, I.

Speaker 14 (01:14:27):
Think he might find that when you aim for the
podium in that car, sometime it steers in different directions exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:14:31):
But also I note that Tony Tony Quinn, who's you know,
Hampton Downs, et cetera. He was quoted internationally this morning
saying it was a mistake as well with Liam, So
that's interesting and the Quinn's back Liam for a very
long period of time. But anyway, we'll talk more about
if one is the weekend gets a little bit closer,
a brief break, and then we'll go to Britain. Rod
Little's next.

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Speaker 3 (01:15:03):
The we're just having a funny old day, We're just
having a discussion. You realize it's the twenty fifth anniversary
of my turning up at Zidby here today, which we
didn't realize the first of April. Well, some people realize
because they keep records I didn't realize it. So the
first of April two thousand is when I turned up here,
and twenty five years later I've still survived technically.

Speaker 13 (01:15:23):
So it's the longest running April fourths joke of all.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
Time pretty much, so, isn't it. We're working out there's
a couple who have been here longer. Carey has been
here longer than I. Helen, who produces Carry has been
here longer than I have. But apart from that, I
think that I'm one of the longest service. Glenn comes
in a year later than me, so twenty four years,
Happy twenty fourth anniversary.

Speaker 13 (01:15:39):
So to be fair, I've been on the show longer,
very long time.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
Yeah, no, that is true. And also I mean you
can go back to ZB experience and you know other
zb's and stuff, but here at this zid B in
the form as it sits here today, twenty five years
so that's exciting.

Speaker 13 (01:15:56):
What does zed Be experience is that like a tribute.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
Band, it's not dissimilar. In Birmingham, they've got rubbish troubles.
So that required the Community Minister in Britain to say this.

Speaker 8 (01:16:08):
Ministers cannot legal intervene in this industrial action. This is
causing public health riss to the city for footable and
deprived residence as a result. I am aware that Birmingham
has today declared a major incident to give them the
mechanisms to better manage the impact on local residents.

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Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
Britain's one little Rod money to you.

Speaker 2 (01:16:34):
Good morning for eight years.

Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
Yeah, but and glorious years, I think. I mean, quantity
is one thing, Rod, but quality is another, isn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Isn't it? Just and it's my birth day tomorrow. So
there we are.

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
Why what are you? What are we dealing with? Fifty one,
fifty two, fifty three, give us a number route Yeah,
there we go quite close enough. We'll have a fabulous
day tomorrow. Now listen, we'll talk about serfs obviously because
tomorrow Liberation Day as well. But there's a reference to
Birmingham that what the bins, what's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
It's a big deal. Birmingham's bankrupt. Birmingham, ours second biggest city,
has been terribly badly administered by Lib Dems and Labor
over the last fifteen years. It's basically bankrupt. It's had
to cut back on everything. It's doing of one of
the things, arguably for most normal sentient human beings, the

(01:17:28):
only thing that a council has to do, which is
empty the bins. Just empty the bins. That's all you
have to do. And you can't do it. It's tried to
make redundant a whole bunch of workers from Unite who
empty the bins, and also is resisting a pay claim

(01:17:49):
of an extra eight thousand quit a year. As a consequence,
thousands and thousands of tons of rotting rubbish has been
left to molder on the streets of Birmingham. Rats the
size of leopards, so the locals save and certainly rats,
you know. And this does two things, and it's really

(01:18:11):
bad for a government which is finding it a little
bit at the moment but not doing a bad job.
It is a reminds people how financially maladroit the Labor
Party is, you know, to allow this to happen. Secondly,
hatching hock they are to the unions. But thirdly for

(01:18:32):
those people of a certain age, Mike, and you underestimated
with mine because I truly remember this. It brings back
the winter of seventy eight into seventy nine when Labor
was evicted from office, when every city in the country
had mounts of rubbish, you know, six foot high on
the streets. So it rekindles all those memories of labor maladministration,

(01:18:57):
and it's a problem for Labor.

Speaker 3 (01:18:59):
I'm not surprised now the Terriff's liberation day tomorrow. Last
I read, Wastarma was on the phone of Trump. They
were getting on fine. But Trump has also said that
everyone gets a tariff, and I've also it's been suggested
that if there are tariffs, then there could be retaliation.
Where are we at?

Speaker 2 (01:19:15):
Well, where we're at is a grave letdown for Sakia,
who had fostered a relationship which seemed to be going
pretty much okay ins so far as anyone could tell,
with Trump and his various ministers to State and Son,
and had been definitely very optimistic, indeed that we would

(01:19:37):
escape many of the tariffs which were going to be
slapped on the EU. Now we may escape one or two,
but nonetheless it looks almost certain and the government is
expecting this that we will have something like a twenty
five percent tariff on both car parts and British cars.
Now it may come comes a small surprise to you

(01:20:02):
and your listeners that we still make cars, but we
still make a few, and that's that's hurting our economy
at a time when it is the most sluggish economy
in Western Europe and isn't moving forward. It's more financial
trouble for Starma.

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
Is he going to retaliate though, well, he says he will,
or at least though he doesn't say that, because he
never says anything as kind of definite as yes or no.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
It's always somewhere in between yes or no new word,
which neither you nor I know, Mike. Yes, he hasn't
ruled it out, and I think what he will do
in that case is follow Europe what to see what
the European Union does in terms of reactive tariffs to

(01:20:52):
whatever Trump does, and I think do something similar the same.
But he is still in this incredibly delicate position of
trying to be a bridge between Europe and America, not
just over tariffs, not not just over general approach to
the world, but over really serious and very acute stuff

(01:21:14):
such as Ukraine and how to deal with Putin. So
it is a very very delicate part he has to tread.

Speaker 3 (01:21:21):
I've just looked up to your age, Rod, and tomorrow
is a very significant day. As it turns out, I'm
assume it's I'm assuming it's significant in Britain as it
is here in certain circumstances. Am I correct in saying.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
That, well, what you mean my birthday?

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
Yes, the birthday you are turning a number tomorrow, which
is significant in this country for a variety of reasons.
I take it as also significant in the UK for
the same variety of reasons.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
Yes, indeed it is. Yes, indeed it is. Yeah, yeah, And.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
How far you're pushing the boat? Then this is this
is an age to celebrate.

Speaker 2 (01:21:55):
Surely it is an age to celebrate. Yes, yes it is.
So I'm out with my wife's this evening. We're in
a pub miles from anywhere and hunkering down with large
amounts of alcohol. That's all I really want from my birthday, mate, you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
Know, all right, make go well and happy birthday for tomorrow.
Nice to catch up and we'll see you on Thursday,
Rod Little. The age we refer to as the Golden
ticket of sixty five. The only reason I know that
is Martin Brundle was going on about it the other
day and he's just turned sixty five as well, so
he gets his bus pass and it's pinching and all
sorts of other things. Speaking of cars and Rod just
before we leave it. They do make cars, and I

(01:22:34):
became particularly interested in this particular car the other day
because they've made the new one. This is Morgan, and
I think, I think I want a Morgan, and because
I've never had a Morgan, and Morgan are one of
the most of you do it right. The new one
I'm worried about because it's called the Super Sport and
they make If you don't know about Morgan, they hand
make their cars, and they're particularly worried about the tariffs

(01:22:55):
because two thirds of their business goes to the United
States and they only make it eight hundred cars a
year because they're all literally handmade. And they're a magnificent
looking car that really hasn't changed all that much over
the years. But the new one comes with a hard
top or a soft top, and the hard top is
as rude as it looks. As it gets the soft top,

(01:23:17):
it looks magnificent. It also has one of those unfortunate
have you ever had a BMW? The gear stick they
used to use for the automatic, which was a sort
of it didn't look that bad in the bed.

Speaker 13 (01:23:27):
Hang on the gear stick for the automatic.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
Yeah, it's you know, well, you have a gear stick
for an automatic select D or R or P. That
particular stick is used in the Morgan and it looks
rude as so if you've got the hard top with
that stick, you've got a super rude car. But if
you've got a manual with a soft top, you're in business.

Speaker 13 (01:23:45):
So no longer the cyber track's not for you anymore.
Well you're pining for a Morgan.

Speaker 3 (01:23:52):
It's not a bad all.

Speaker 14 (01:23:53):
That saw quite a nice cyber truck yesterday sinking into
the water because it float well. It had tried to
back a jet ski and then.

Speaker 13 (01:24:04):
It had all gone wrong apparently, and apparently they do
not fot.

Speaker 3 (01:24:07):
Oh, well that's a shame, and then all the bits
fall off as well. Would the bits float or go
straight to the bottom of the world. Anyway, if you're
into cars, look up the latest Morgan Supersport, which is
a brand new cards Worth looking at fourteen Away from nine.

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Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
Mike I remember your first show twenty five years ago.
You confidently didn't miss a beat on that day with
a seamless transition from Homesey, and have performed consistently and
strongly in the following twenty five years. Sam, You're very
nice to say, unfortunately completely wrong because the first show
twenty five years ago wasn't taking over from Paul. It
was Saturday mornings and so, but that's not to say

(01:24:47):
that my first show taking over from Paul, which is
about seventeen and a half years ago, wasn't seamless and
exceptional and on that you're right, you're one hundred percent correct.
It just wasn't twenty five years ago. Well that's the
way I remember it. Anyway, it might have been bollocks.
Who would know. Sky Television. I didn't have time to
raise this with Rod, but Sky Televisions in the UK
Sky two thousand of their call center jobs are at risk.

(01:25:09):
They reckon that more customers want to complain online and
they're going to close three of their ten US UK
customer service centers, three of their ten. They've got ten
customer centers, so people declining call volumes. They're in Stockport,
Sheffield and lead Central seven percent of the total workforce

(01:25:32):
has been laid off. And you think to yourself when
you hear those numbers. Two thousand people, seven percent of
the workforce, it's obviously a very big company. Do you
know how many calls they get each year of people
just moaning? Twenty five million? Twenty five hallo dos jen

(01:25:56):
my signal? It's not working? What's happened? What you're doing?
What are you doing? This is a third time I've
had to call you this month. What's going on? Twenty
five million times over? You couldn't pay me enough to
do that job. Nine minutes away from nine.

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of course, and bet responsibly. Asking story floating around over
the weekend that was done by the Helling Clark Foundation
and it turns out that Australians are happier and less
divided than we are. And I sort of didn't mention

(01:27:27):
it because I thought, you know, it's just another one
of those perception type operations. Anyway, the guy who did it,
the co author of the reporter is, of course the
famed economist shummer bielle e cub who is I mean,
if you know the story of shummer Bille you know
who he is. Anyway, he said, and I quote, I
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(01:27:48):
good as or a little bit better than Australia. And
I thought, if you ever want evidence of an economist
knowing literally nothing about what's going on around them, that
statement does it perfectly. Five minutes away from.

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
Nine trending now with ware House the home of big brand.

Speaker 3 (01:28:07):
Vetamens Davy's back. You know he fell off his pedal
board a lot in the election campaign in the UK.
He's the head of the lib Dems anyway. Today he's
launched his local election campaign in Oxfordshire because they've got
the local elections coming up. So he was running around
a horse course. This is the sort of thing, This
sort of thing they do in Britain, a horse course
where people stick a hobby horse between the alleges and

(01:28:28):
run around when they're not ringing sky TV they go,
I'll tell you what you fancy sticking all sea between
your legs, running round a track. That's the sort of
thing they're doing Britain anyway, What were they asking it about, Well,
the teriff and Elon Musk of course.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Talked about tariffs on Tesla. Do you think people should
boycott Tesla?

Speaker 15 (01:28:46):
Well, let's get tariffs on them first, that that will
really get Do you think people should buy Tesla cars?
I don't interfere with people's choices. What I do think, though,
which is by one I would not buy one. Well,
Elon Musk is of my favorite fan. He's so kind
and generous to everybody. He's not, obviously I'm joking. This

(01:29:06):
is a man who's squatting in the White House, the
richest man in the world, and he says horrible things.
He backs extremely right wing parties and does so much
damage to America, let alone to anyone else. And I
think by saying we should have taris on Tesla's not
only is it pushing back against Donald Trump, but it's
making Elon Musk hurt.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
I think that's a good thing.

Speaker 15 (01:29:29):
I think it's good and smart strategy.

Speaker 3 (01:29:31):
Joos and obviously has literally nothing to do with local
body elections in Britain, so he was just a little
bit off piece there. But nevertheless, I had a ball
twenty five years on men come on the business. He
has come. I think, I hope anyway. Bag Tomorrow Morning, Heavy.

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