Full Show Podcast: 02 April 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Your source of breaking news, challenging opinion and honors, backs,
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Your Way News, Togs head been.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Wire, Welcome today America's cup again are the marry Party
and their privileges chanting big day of voting in America?
Are two congressional seats that could up in the balance,
and the seat of the Supreme Court in Wisconsin. Any
us in the Rugby Union of cut a deal, Mark
and Jinny and the politics after eight rigidalesty Price, they
roll up as well, pasking well, welcome to the day
seven past six. Here was the headline to mark the

(00:32):
day we aren't ready. The next pandemic is coming and
in that line of paranoia is everything that was wrong
with the five year anniversary. That's the right word of
our first lockdown for COVID. As two commissions have or
continue to wide through any number of submissions at all
a waste of time. There are those who are determined
to forecast doom and as such would do exactly the

(00:52):
same next time as they did five years ago. I
noted Ashley popped up for a bit of a chat,
told us the bird flues are worry and he should
have listened more. I mean, what's that actually mean? Listen more?
Does it lead to anything? Of course it doesn't. It's
a sop. The epidemiologists who flooded our living rooms would
unquestionably be no different than COVID two point zero than
they were in the original. In fact, if anything should
have come out of twenty twenty in lockdown, it should

(01:14):
have been we don't mark anniversaries at all. We shouldn't
be allowed to interview either Hopkins or Bloomfield or Adern
about COVID. Ever again, hearing them witter is bad for
your health. It's triggering. One report's already out, of course,
a reflection, ironically of the COVID response itself, limited in scope,
a stitch up, designed to look like you've had a
bit of a look at how we handled it in
terms of reference, very much designed not to elicit anything

(01:36):
too dramatic. Part two driven by the new government of
ghast at Part one scandalous limitations as working away feverishly
as we speak. But it doesn't matter what it sees.
Nothing will come of it, because, as I said from
day one, luck is the predetermining factor. Get a government
of confidence. You stand a chance. Get it the enterlope
as we did. You're done for. If I learned anything
it's that warnings about doom from the likes of Bloomfield

(01:58):
mean little or nothing, and that if any government ever
tries half the stuff they did on again, from the
pulpit of truth to vaccine mandates, the lockdowns for spurious reasons,
the reaction will be vastly different. And you didn't need
the Commission of Inquiry to figure that out.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
News of the World in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Oh boy, talk about a build up. It's Rose Gardens
three pm eastern to Mars. But nothing to worry about.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
We have a lot of countries friend and voe. I
always say friend in voe, but the friend in many.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
Cases is worse than the foe.

Speaker 5 (02:30):
They took advantage of us, and we are going to
be very nice by comparison to what they were.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
And the new Canadian PM doesn't see it that way.

Speaker 6 (02:38):
We have a plan and it's detailed, and we need
one because this will go a long way to help
Canadians weather the storm intensified by President Trump's terrorists in Britain?

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Are they still clinging to the hype some sort of
deal can be struck.

Speaker 7 (02:53):
I would want, ideally to be Frank to be able
to exempt us from this moment. I think that our
trading relationship is a very strong and fair and balanced one,
So I don't believe there's the need to do this,
but I do believe we're in a position to reach agreement.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Also in Britain'saquia is handing out a little bit of
dash in the form of a national living wage increase,
which means, as they're so famously saying in nineteen ninety three,
things can only get better.

Speaker 8 (03:15):
Wages are going up higher than prices. I'm not going
to stand here and say people don't feel the impact
of BILS. Of course they do. I understand that the
question is are we making them feel better off? And
that's why the national living wage today is so important.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Queuing isn't so convinced.

Speaker 9 (03:29):
By the end of this parliament, families across Britain will
be three and a half thousand pounds worse off because
labors simply do not understand how the economy works. They
think government creates growth.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
It doesn't do the in Beck state side, do you
remember Luigi, the bloke who relligiedly shot their health boss
well the ag PAM from Florida wants.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Indeed, the murder was an act of political violence. Mangoni's
actions involve substantial planning and premeditation, and because the murder
to place in public with bystanders nearby, may have pays
grave rest to additional persons.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
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By the way, the RB yesterday in Australia four point one.

(04:49):
That's the cash rate. They didn't move it, mind you,
no one was expecting them. To the Eurozone this morning
though it did move. The inflation came in dipped to
two point two, so they're on the right track. Twelve
past six.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
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Speaker 2 (05:10):
The word on Liberation Day tomorrow is it's twenty percent
on everything for everyone, and you then ring Donald up
and go can we cut a deal? That's the word
we've currently got. Fourteen past six from j and my
Wealth Andrew kellerher Welcome to the day, Good morning, Mike
and the dairy Auction. I note there are some good
and some overall it's good.

Speaker 10 (05:31):
We're up, yeah, I reckon, We're we're sort of inching
closer to Liberation Day, aren't we? And tomorrow at sunstay,
what does it not be about nine o'clock out time?

Speaker 2 (05:39):
At eight o'clock I've got three in the Rose Gardens.
It will be about eight o'clock out on.

Speaker 10 (05:43):
All good, so all will be revealed. So this is
actually the last global dairy trade auction pre tariffs, and
we have no idea whether or not that will impact
in it, don't we.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
But look for that last one at the headline level.

Speaker 10 (05:56):
Yeah, I think it's a good outcome at one point
one percent rise in the Global Dairy Trade Index. Index
has been as sort of a steady upward trend since
really since August twenty twenty three, and now back to
levels we saw maybe mid twenty twenty two. Now, obviously
we're interested in the component levels as usual as some
volatility and variability, and the supporting players a butt A

(06:18):
down one point two percent, Motz Sorella down four percent,
but the main players whole mill powder relatively unchanged down
zero point one percent and stable is good. An interesting
step up in skim milt powder a five point nine
percent game there that pushes it close to the highest
level seen in twelve months, actually probably almost for two years.

(06:39):
So a good broadening of interest, shall we say that.
But nothing here to derail the dairy sector.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
Good news story at the.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Moment, good stuff and miss Bullet came to the party.
Four point one was expected, right.

Speaker 10 (06:51):
Yep, So she said this is the RBA cashret review.
Monetary policy continues to be restrictive, looking for the Bank
will rely on data and evolving risks to guide future decisions.
They are cautious about the outlook for inflation Australia. They
really need to be confident that progress has been made
so that they can continue with the moved out move

(07:12):
lower and the casher over. There reasonable focus or a
reasonably high degree of focus on the labor market from
the RBA. They noted that it continues to be tight.
They talked about uncertainties. Remember uncertainty is the key theme
for twenty twenty five and if what you say is
right about what Trump's are going to do on the tariffs,
that uncertainty just continues, doesn't it, because it continues to

(07:34):
be a moving feast. They said, Notable uncertainties around the
outlook for the Australian domestic economic situation and inflation, what
will happen with household consumption, and very obviously the outlook
outside of Australia with the global issues.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
After the announcement was.

Speaker 10 (07:55):
Made there the Governor as again obviously referenced the tariffs
and she did say, I mean, if we paraphrase what
She said, it's not good for a small, open economy,
which is reasonably applicable to New Zealand as well. She
made an interesting comment, Mike I thought that that in
the short term, fiscal support and an improving economy in
China could provide some sort of positive offset to that

(08:17):
potential negative impact of tariff's. She said the tarif announcements
for impacting global confidence and that could be amplified if
the scope of tariffs is widened. So, if you want
to summarize it, I'd say it's a very slightly hawkish hold.
Markets in Australia's still confident they will get a couple
of ray cuts coming.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
And presumably they get the raycut, the retail picks up.
That was weaker two, wouldn't it.

Speaker 11 (08:42):
Yeah, very very slightly so.

Speaker 10 (08:43):
Retail sales in Australia earlier in the day, very very
slightly weaker than expected. But at this stage you probably
probably nothing overly dramatic there.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
And I see in speaking of China, I do see
light there.

Speaker 10 (08:55):
Yeah, I reckon, we are getting slightly better news out
of China. So yesterday you had this what's called the
Kaijin manufacturing data. This is a PMI Now the Kaijin
report is that it's a private survey and it's seen
as a good count or adendum to the official data.
And the outcome was surprisingly resilient. Market improved at the
fastest pace in four months, rose to fifty one point
two in March. So expanding, you're seeing continued export growth,

(09:19):
I left in employment and production. Actually employment expanded for
the first time in nineteen months, a little bit of
a sustained rise in new orders. New export sales increased
at the quickest pace in nearly a year.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
So it very much.

Speaker 10 (09:31):
Supported what we saw in the official data. Look, it's
not seismic, but the Chinese economy just looks a little healthier,
and so that's got to be good news for us, right.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
I reckon it is. Now what are the numbers?

Speaker 10 (09:41):
So actually, look, we've got sort of a sea of
green across equity markets at the moment.

Speaker 11 (09:47):
The Dow Jones just.

Speaker 10 (09:48):
Dipped into negative territori as we while we've been talking.
But it looks okay. The Dow Jones is down fifty
points in the moment. That's only a point one percent fall.
Forty nine hundred and fifty two. The S and P
five hundred up per point three percent fIF five thy
six hundred and twenty nine and the Nasdaq A test
has actually rallied overnight. The Nasdaq up point six percent

(10:09):
seventeen thousand, four hundred and five Yeah. Overnight, the Forts
one hundred gained point six of a percent eight six
three four. The NICK was basically unchanged three five six
two four. Shanghai Compett up point three eight percent three
three four eight. The Aussi's Yesday gained just over one
percent seven nine two five. Was that plays there, and
we gained about a third of a percent on the

(10:30):
INSIDETX fifty up forty three points twelve thousand, three hundred
and twelve. Kiwi dollar point five six nine six against
the US point nine oer eight three against the OSSI
point five to two seven five Euro point four four
zero seven against the pound eighty five point one seven.
Japanese yend gold still strong three thousand, one hundred and
nine US dollars and breadcrud seventy four dollars and fifty.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Five bibulous work see you tomorrow. Andrew Kelleher, Jmiwealth dot
Co dot and zsky Diam came in with very good
numbers with the first call of car sales in America,
notably because Americans are busy buying cars before they get
tariffed into oblivion. So sixteen point seven percent jump on
the quarter, notable gains and full size SUVs because we
all know Americans like a big truck and who doesn't

(11:13):
my food bag back home. They're back in growth. Second
half sales stronger good sales up five percent. They preserve
their gross margin good. Full year profit expected to be
in line with last year's. That's good too. They've launched
my food Bag Shop, so that's one off meal solutions
care packages. That's quite clever. Gifting without the need for
subscriptions are quite like that anyway. There full year results

(11:35):
coming in May. Sex twenty one News Talk Setbo.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
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Speaker 3 (11:47):
Talk set b.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Actually speaking of cars, Tesla reported yesterday they plunged thirty
six percent, worse performance of any period since twenty twenty two,
third biggest decline of any quarter ever. The irony is
because of course, you know what's going on with Elon.
The irony is dozers say they claim one hundred and
forty billion dollars, but he's lost four hundred and sixty
billion value in market cap. By the way, if you

(12:09):
want a bit of fun, Corey Book is on the
floor of the house. At the moment, Cory Book is
a Democrat. They're filibustering to try and prevent the Republicans
doing stuff they don't like the Republicans doing. So he's
allowed officially to talk as long as he can and
so far. I started watching him yesterday and he was
dressed in a nice black suit. He's a big guy,
and I thought he the record is over twenty four hours,

(12:30):
not much over twenty four hours, but a bit over
twenty four hours, twenty four hours and eighteen minutes. And
it was set when it was it the seventies, can't remember.
It doesn't matter anyway. I thought, this guy doesn't stand
a chance of going twenty four hours and eighteen minutes.
He's running at eighteen plus at the moment. You're only
allowed water. You can't stop, and you've got to keep standing.
So if you want to watch a bit of that,
you can. Newsmax is the other one of fascination.

Speaker 11 (12:51):
At the moment.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Newsmax is a very minor cable operator. In America. It's
sort of probably to the right of Fox. It's the
fourth biggest cable viewed platform in America, behind Fox, MSNBC,
and CNN, And between say December and March of this year,
their average audience was three hundred and nine thousand, which

(13:13):
is smaller than this program. The cable shows all over America,
so we've got more audience than they do two hundred
and eleven people daytime point being they floated, it's very
unusual for a cable company to float on the New
York Stock Exchange. Their shares have gone through the roof
more than one hundred percent today alone. It's weird ass

(13:35):
Sex twenty.

Speaker 12 (13:36):
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Speaker 2 (13:45):
So I got a little something for the Beatles fan.
So the Oscar winning director Sam Mendez, who did American
Beauty in the Bond film Skyfall, Inspector is producing four
count them, four biopex on the Beatles, each film telling
the story through the eyes of you guessed it, an
individual Beatle. Paul mescal who was from Gladiator Too. He's

(14:06):
playing Paul McCartney. Barry Keogan is ringo star Joseph Quinn,
who was also in Gladiator two as the Emperor is
George Harrison Dickinson, best known for Ironclaw and Baby Girl
is John Lennon. They're describing it as the first bingeable

(14:27):
theatrical experience. I don't even know what that means. All
four films are going to be released in proximity to
each other, which is wise because when you see the
Paul Ar, I wonder where the ring girl wants a boy,
and you don't want to sort of go say fat
on the track you forgot about it and go I
don't worry about it anyway. I've given you early warning
on this and there'll be no excuse, and don't come

(14:47):
back to me and go, oh, come on, I forgot
about April twenty eight, not April to twenty eighth, April
twenty twenty eight. So you got a bit to you
got a bit to worry about.

Speaker 11 (14:58):
Now.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
This morning, we'll talk a bit about the America's Cup
of course, the Enios. Speaking of sport, the Aeneos thing
has been sorted out with the rugby union. So that
and politics. Wednesday after Right with Mark and Jinny, the.

Speaker 1 (15:11):
News and the news Makers, the Mic asking Breakfast with
the range Rover villa designed to intrigue and use togs'd be.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Get into this.

Speaker 11 (15:20):
Mic.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
I cannot believe our government that I voted for being
so short sighted. Read the America's cup. I thought we
were open for business. We clearly are not. That's the
one that's going to come back and bite them. Of course,
you can't say we're open for business then you've got
no money or the pro I mean we don't have
any money obviously, all the prospect of business and investors
down the drain, just like that, very very sad, I
think Christine, I wasn't I come from the point of
view when Grant Dalton was on the news a couple

(15:42):
of weeks ago said windows open, we need to get
talking and get something sorted. I had absolutely no expectation
whatsoever that we were going to put a deal together
in any way, shape or form. So when the news
came yesterday I wasn't remotely surprised. But on balance, and
we'll talk to Mark about this because he's with us
after eight, on balance, I think they've made a mistake.
Twenty three to seven a couple of elections that will

(16:05):
explain shorty with Richard Arnold too in Florida. The significance
of them is that the Republicans lose. They've already they
got barely got a margin in the House anyway, so
it could get super ugly. And then we've got this
sort of the eelon obsessed fight in Wisconsin over the
Supreme Court. But more with Richard Shortley meantime, back here,
remember Brook van Velden. She told us on the program
the other day there was a suite a plethora of

(16:28):
change coming this week under her watch. The latest is
that landowners will no longer be liable for recreational accidents.
This is for you know, Hunter's fishers, kai, because that
sort of thing. You may strike a bit of trouble
on your land and you being held responsible. Currently, White
Ireland actually might be a very good example of this.
Health and safety lawyer Anthony Harper of Grant Nicholson is
with us. Oh sorry, but Anthony Harper's the company, Grant
Nicholson's the person, Grant my sincere apologies, good morning, and

(16:52):
a very good morning to you. Is the law crying
out to be reformed?

Speaker 11 (16:56):
No, not at all.

Speaker 13 (16:58):
This is a solution in set for problem.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Okay, so what about White Island. Would that not be
a good example of where things got a bit muddy.

Speaker 14 (17:06):
Yes, I think that's fair and it's probably the only
example where we've seen things good a bit muddy. But
ultimately the court did its job and in the High
Court for Current Management Limited was acquitted. So the law
actually worked as intended. And if you look back into
our history, this reform is really going to if I
take you back to Cave crack in so the nineteen nineties,

(17:29):
it's going to give a free pass to landowners when
there's actually something arising out of their land, like platforms,
like bridges, like other things of that nature which might collapse,
and say you're going to get a free pass.

Speaker 13 (17:42):
You know, the law is already not.

Speaker 15 (17:45):
Involving farmers and public bodies routinely getting prosecuted for the
activities of other people on their land.

Speaker 16 (17:53):
It's just not something that works out New Zealand.

Speaker 11 (17:55):
The regulator does, right.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
So this is my next question. How much of this
is about a white island or ak preak and therefore
dock or some public entity versus Bob on his farm
letting some fisher people through who then go and hurt themselves.

Speaker 17 (18:10):
Well, the examples that the Minister gave were firstly, if
you had farmers working on a farm property and then
you've got a horse trecking business working on the farm
or already the health and safety workout deals with that
because there's a carve out for farmers except where they're
actually doing the farming activities. So a farmer already would
not be liable for the horse treking activity business. It's

(18:33):
also intended then to be wider, so you're.

Speaker 15 (18:35):
Write the likes of councils, dock schools, anybody else where
there might be recreation activities occurring on their properties. But
I've acted for a wide range of public sector organizations,
including schools actually after fatal accidents on their grounds and
they're not getting prosecuted now. So really this is not

(18:57):
something where the major impetus from the business or the
health and safety community was Minister, we need you to
change these things. There were lots of things that the
consultation exercise last year for the Minister told her we
do want change, because she hasn't packed those up. She's
just running with things like this and the new road

(19:19):
cones hotline.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
So are you are you trying to play this down
to the extent. So you're a lawyer and this stuff
doesn't bother you. But so I think of the school example.
If something happens on your school, people are devastated and
they worry and they fret, and over a sustained period
of time, because the wheels of justice turn extremely slowly,
you might be able to at the end of it go, hey,
don't worry, it all worked out.

Speaker 18 (19:39):
Well.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
Meantime, my life has been wrecked. And you see what
I'm saying. I mean just because all sorts of stuff.
So if I can say, look, it's not my fault
and I know that, then that's better for me, isn't it.

Speaker 15 (19:50):
Yes, it is.

Speaker 13 (19:51):
But we've already got limitations in the law, which says
that you're only required to act so far as is
reasonably practicable, and that word reasonably has to do some
heavy lifting. So the law already doesn't actually impose any
obligation on organizations more than what is independently if there's
reasonable Does that mean that sometimes if we are going
to be a risk averse, Sure, yes it does. But

(20:13):
if we say the school as an example, I would
say that we do want schools to be cognizant of
the risks that are arising from their grounds. We don't
want them to be leaving equipment out overnight. For example,
that children can climb onto or have topple over onto
them and crush them to death, which is a real

(20:34):
life example that I had to act for a school
when that happened.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Okay, So it's ideology that's driving. This is a nacked ideal.
Just get the state out of people's lives.

Speaker 16 (20:42):
Yeah, I think it is.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Okay, Grant appreciate it very much. Grunt Nicholson, who's health
and safety lawyer at Anthony Harper. It's eighteen minutes away
from seven. I'm not only talking about Brookban Belden. The
other day I was talking about Wellington, Wellington on a
good day and all the problems you're having. I note
this morning our read it in the Herald. It's very interesting,
it's almost funny. It's sort of comedic and laughable. So
Tori up A, she got together some movers and shakers
for a business group so that they could, you know,

(21:04):
guide her through what was happening to this wonderful city.
I note this morning two of them ere quipped because
they got sick of going to meetings, because no one
listened to them. Eighteen to two.

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Speaker 19 (22:24):
Good morning, good wind, He.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Make thought of this time. Tomorrow Rose Garden should be fun.

Speaker 5 (22:30):
Yeah, it is the eve of the announcement of the
Trump TERRFF plan. Liberation Day is what Trump is calling it,
but it remains unclear just what will be done, who
will be liberated, and what will they be liberated from.
Wall Street is down a bit right now, after what
is the worst start to the US stock market for
several years. President Trump will announce his plans at a
Rose Garden event, says his press rep today. In relation

(22:54):
to this, the.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
President will be addressing the decades of unfair trade practices
that have ripped our country off, American workers off.

Speaker 20 (23:01):
It has hallowed out our middle class.

Speaker 5 (23:02):
Many other Trump aids indicating they have little idea of
what's going to be happening. So the Trump tarifts are
expected to take effect immediately, and what we have heard
of the twenty five percent tariff that is expected to
be imposed on imported cars and car parts is that
those tariffs could increase car prices here by thousands and
thousands of dollars. Trumpers sent he doesn't care if those

(23:22):
car prices go up, But in Detroit, in the area
of Stilling Heights, which is part of the city northern
side of the city, Mayor Michael Taylor says he is
very concerned about what might happen with all of this.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
He says it would be devastating.

Speaker 21 (23:37):
We're bracing for the worst, hoping that there's some change
in his plan. But if these tariffs go into effect,
and if they stay in effect for any period beyond
a couple weeks, it's going to have a devastating impact
on the local economy and Sterling Heights, where we have
four large automotive manufacturing plants and dozens, if not hundreds
of auto suppliers. About forty percent of our are directly

(24:00):
related to the auto industry.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
And that's a lot of work.

Speaker 5 (24:02):
As you said, any new plan that might be intended
for his area would take he reckons about five years
to start operations, So it will consumers carry the load
for years ahead? That is the issue.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, indeed, then we've got these votes today, a couple
in Florida, one in Wisconsin. How does that unfold you? Reckon?

Speaker 5 (24:19):
Yeah, well, it is election day for a court seat
in Wisconsin. Who cares, right, except maybe a handful of
people wearing cheese heads at a Packers football game. But wrong,
there's nothing voter has become the first big test of
Trump and Musk since they moved into the White House.
It's also a race where a Trump win could flip
the balance in the state Supreme Court and allow for
redrawing the federal election map. So pretty significant on a

(24:42):
national front. Same also for Florida, where we have a
couple of special elections by elections. One is to replace
Mike Walts, the National Security Advisor, of course, as the
one who set up these signal gate chat including a reporter,
and if the Dems win that it would likely be
good night, Mike. But back to Wisconsin. This is a
race where on Monk Musk has pumped in some thirty

(25:02):
five million dollars New Zealand for the contest among two
contenders people almost no one had ever heard of Susan Crawford,
the LIB and Brad Shimmel lea trumpsters. So Musk is
accused of trying to buy this election. And the campaign
advertising has been insane. We're talking one hundred and thirty
million dollars New Zealand for a court seat. And the

(25:24):
commercials are slamming Crawford and Shimmel as been pro crime,
both of them, pro crime, pro rapist, pro pedophile. Here's
a little sample of what's been on TV.

Speaker 18 (25:33):
This streets like any other in Wisconsin.

Speaker 21 (25:37):
But the new neighbor is a pedophile thanks to Judge
Susan Crawford's sweetheart sentence.

Speaker 11 (25:43):
Oh corrupt is Brad Schimmel.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Shimmell give a plea deal to a man caught with
child porn.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Crawford let the predator out in just four years.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Brad Schimmel let a sex predator loose on our.

Speaker 12 (25:53):
Kids, creating the weakest walk free, well rapist walk free.

Speaker 5 (25:57):
Called Crawford's negligence utterly discs what the hell has going
on in Wisconsin. Yeah, instead of building a wall with Mexico,
some are suggesting maybe they should put a wall up
around Wisconsin. If there was so many pedophiles and rapists.
Then Elon Musk flew in this week for a kind
of political rally. He put on a cheese had hat
spoke to a crowd of two thousand people who had
to sign a document saying they were Musk supporters. However,

(26:20):
some protesters got into this fake town hall and bood
Musk as he took to the stage. Welcome to politics, Elon,
who then handed out a couple of million dollar checks
he said he would give to random voters. That led
to a lawsuit Mike claiming Musk was trying to buy votes,

(26:41):
but the Wisconsin court said the election lotto could proceed
without saying why. Musk then began his big million dollar giveaway,
announcing the.

Speaker 13 (26:53):
First check goes to Nicholas Jacobs.

Speaker 5 (26:56):
So this dude jumps on stage wearing a pack of sweatshirt.
Now we find he wasn't even from Wisconsin, and he
wasn't chosen by chance. In court Elon Musk, a lawyer
told the judge that when the mega billionaire said the
voting sweet stakes was random, he didn't mean there was
an element of chance. The opposing lawyer called that crazy, absurd.
You know Elon would give everyone in this country, say

(27:16):
a billion dollars. Mic, we could all stay home and
set this out until then, it appears you cannot trust
some politicos even with a million dollar votes.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
It is too much fun. Richard Preciator Richard Arnold in
the States, and Matt Terrell, who was Marca Rubio's former
go to man, is with us. Back with us on
the program after seven o'clock nine to seven.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Dogs dead.

Speaker 11 (27:39):
Be leading this morning.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
There's increasing speculation. Happens periodically, but apparently this has got
a vibe to it that there's an election coming in Ukraine.
He's eyeing the summer. It's coming into summer at springtime
there at the moment, but he's eyeing that it might
be time. It was due, of course at the end
of last year, got suspended to under martial law for
obvious reasons. But it increasingly looks like he might try,

(28:03):
especially if the ceasefire takes hold. Of course, five minutes
away from seven.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
Well, the ins and the outs, it's the fiz with
business favor. Take your business productivity to the next level.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
We have a lot of the various workplaces and jobs
and we're not loving our jobs. Unfortunately. This is the
SEEKH Evolving Working Life Report surveys. So what we got.
We've got fifty four percent of us, over half of
us regretting our career choice, and we would choose differently
if we could do it all over again. I find
that profoundly sad, the younger ones who do it the hardest.

(28:36):
But then again, you'd expect that sixty one percent of millennials,
and when there's I mean, does a millennial even have
a career. I mean, I've been in this job for
three weeks now and I hate it. The money's no
good and I'm not running the place and they don't
give me days. In lou gen Z fifty six, gen
X fifty one, the boom is forty one. Main reason
for regret, of course, is money that didn't earn enough,
followed by their passion changing, which I suppose that's evolution,

(28:59):
isn't really. Thirty six percent of people say their passions
change work being unfulfilling. A quarter of people said that
bad work life balanced twenty two percent of surprise that's
not I are those who regret their choice, though forty
one percent say they're open to a career change button.
And this is the problem. Forty one percent say they're
open to a career change, but are you doing anything
about it? No, of course you're not. Your moaning you

(29:20):
spend you're spending too much time moaning to seek. Only
six percent are actively working towards changing anything. If you
loved what you did, eighty five percent would likely work
into their seventies. See that's the power of loving what
you do. Fifty eight percent say they'll be working longer
out of necessity rather than choice. So that's that. Now,

(29:42):
after seven we'll do the America's Cup. We need a
national plan. Don't we do this a cup thing every
three or four years? And Grant goes, hey, we need
a meeting, and Auckland Council go, oh, you will ruin
and we'll have a bid text at the same time,
and then the government goes on, no, we don't have
any money, and then we have a bit of a
fight thing happens. That's basically it was Wayne Brown. Did
you get it was Wayne Brown? It wasn't bad. Wayne

(30:03):
Brown was So we'll talk about that. As I say,
Matt Terrell, Marco Rubio's mate, is back on the program
with these votes in America Today Politics Wednesday for you
after eight Mark Mitchell and Jinny Anderson.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
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Speaker 2 (30:26):
Seven past seven, So no America's Cup. In New Zealand,
again it was potentially a three way Auckland, private and
Central government coming to the party. Central was the letdown.
They don't have the money. So that was that. Major
Events Group founding director Chris Simpson, well us, Chris, very
good morning to you.

Speaker 22 (30:39):
Good morning Mike.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
As profoundly disappointed as you may well be. I had
zero expectation a deal was ever going to be made.
Did you honestly think it was possible?

Speaker 18 (30:49):
Now?

Speaker 22 (30:49):
I was probably a bit similar to you. Really, I
knew kind of the level of investment and the current
so the position that the government has and the challenges
that we're sort of facing in the major event space.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Yeah, although it's seventy five million, the government of quoting
seventy five million, whether that take care or not, who
would know, But seventy five million spread over several years,
it's hardly big Bucks. It's a couple of million dollars
a month.

Speaker 22 (31:12):
It's hardly big Bucks compared to other countries and what
they're investing in major events started as big Bucks for
New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
Do we have the poor man's syndrome at the moment
we feel poor, we act poor, therefore we are poor?

Speaker 22 (31:26):
I think, well, I'm a little bit biased, but I
think we actually do currently. Like, obviously we can't take
on the Middle East and what they're investing in major events,
but when you see our neighbors across the ditch and
what they're spending on major events. We are in a
space where we've historically hosted world class events and we've
managed to get through over that time just because we've

(31:50):
got great track record in delivering world class events. But
that doesn't sort of cut it anymore, and almost as
an assumption that we're going to win major events as
a rite without sort of significant levels of investment.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
We've got to get out there and get them. So
does this need to be national? Is that part of
the problem? National? Be local? So it's always you know,
it's Auckland or Wellington or christ Church versus the government.
Does this need to be run from head officer to
speak or not.

Speaker 22 (32:14):
I think, look, at the end of the day, we're
a tiny country, so we need to work together on
the world stage to really go after events that we
think are really good for the country. But really, you know,
we all have the same strategy in mind and what
we're going after and what's relevant to New Zealand and
what reinforces our brand fillers and all that sort of stuff.
So I think, you know, we do need to sort

(32:35):
of hunt as a pack. We're not going to get it,
you know, if the government's not into something in the
city is. And then of course we've got the challenge
of regional dispersal because outside of a couple of cities,
there's very little major events funding sitting in some of
the smaller regions.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, you've got to want it, basically, don't you. Chris
appreciate you're inside Christenson, who's the Major Events Group funding director.
I also wonder if there's a little bit of something
about the America's Cup in the visually as an event.
There's the angst flu ride vaccine mandates in Grant Dalton.
They'll get you going every time ten minutes past seven,
and a sign of how ragged. Some of our democratic

(33:12):
processes are The Murray Party are not turning up to
their Privileges Committee appointment today. Couldn't you see that coming
a mile away. They've got a laundry list of issues
they claim haven't been addressed.

Speaker 11 (33:20):
So what now?

Speaker 2 (33:20):
Constitutional law recks. But Graham Edgel is back. Well there's Grahame.
Very good morning to you.

Speaker 16 (33:24):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
So what now? Because I understand the Privileges Committee can
basically do anything they want to. The balls in their court,
isn't it.

Speaker 16 (33:31):
Yeah, I mean it's there's the hearing. They chose not
to turn up the Privileges Committee, will I would guess
make a decision. Yep, this is already they've already made
an interim decision so that they had one laboring peak.
Penn Hennede was involved in the Harker as well. They
made a finding on his They said it in his
case it wasn't contempted parliament, but it was disorderly and

(33:54):
I think he apologized and so yeah, they can make
sort of the same recommendation or a slightly different different
recommendation if they feel it was the behavior was slightly
different and go from there.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Where does the sit in terms of seriousness for a
privileges committee and their reputation going forward. Do you think.

Speaker 16 (34:14):
Not that serious? But you know, sort of the committee.
We'll just you know, it's the committee is doing what
it was told to do. You know, speaker has there
are a couple of complaints to the speaker, The Speaker
referred the issue, and the committee is going to make
a decision or recommendation. It's not a particularly serious breach,
I don't think. If you remember, say, for example, that
the Julian Jenta one was probably slightly more serious, but

(34:36):
you know, she relatively quickly apologized and that was part
of the resort. Well you know, they said, well she's apologized. Yeah,
that was good that we wanted and that's what happened.
And so it's a similar level maybe, but yeah, maybe
even slightly less serious.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
Does it go to the wider issue of attitude and
respect and professionalism and what we may or may not
expect as punters of our leading institution.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
I ain't.

Speaker 11 (35:02):
Maybe.

Speaker 16 (35:02):
I mean it's sort of like it's the different parties
involved here are playing for their own audience, I think.
And it's not it's a political matter, not a legal
matter or anything like that. It's the you know, there
is some benefit to being the party on the outside
saying you guys need to change. And I think the
Marti Party is you know, they're inn opposition, you know,

(35:23):
quite firm lockstep on the government on passing their bills
that they all agree to the next two three years,
Marty Marty is not going to get much of its
legislation passed and they see some benefit to this, and well,
they're politicians, just like everyone else in Parliament. As a politician,
when they see a political benefit of doing something, they're
going to do it.

Speaker 13 (35:42):
Other parties the.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Same very realistic view. By the way, are you following
the South Island water case.

Speaker 16 (35:48):
Slightly?

Speaker 23 (35:48):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (35:50):
Is it worth talking about? I'm trying to follow it,
but it's going on for a tremendous amount of time
with a great deal of complexity, and I'm working towards
the idea that it will probably end up being nothing
based on the fact that need to be done by
Parliament or am I wrong?

Speaker 16 (36:03):
I mean that would be my guess. You know, the
time to really talk about that case is when it
comes out with a decision. To be perfectly honest, okay,
you know, sort of having that sort of thing. And
at that point, you know there'll probably be an appeal
whichever side loses, but you'll have a bit of an
argument and a bit of a discussion to be okay,
well we've got our court decision. You know there's probably
be an appeal, so that'll delay things again whichever side loses.

(36:27):
But that's the time to really have a discussion rather
than sort of you're guessing what a judge's got to
do when he heard from all these lawyers.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
So far, Okay, Graham, I'll get you on at the time.
Appreciate very much, Graham Edgelo. It's worth following because it
has the potential as a nightA who's you know, the
government doesn't run the place we do when it comes
to water argument, which, as I say from my reading
so far, is going nowhere, but it has the potential
to go somewhere. Thirteen past seven, ask getting my word,
how much good news do you want on red meat

(36:55):
for February numbers out this morning. We are going gangbusters,
so not only cows being milked, but cows and sheep
being slaughtered and sold off for steakes and barbecues. One
point one billion, which is a twenty five percent increase
on last year. Just imagine increasing your business by twenty
five percent year on year. US largest export market that
could well change tomorrow, increased by thirty two percent, so

(37:17):
that's good. China's up five percent. The EU got some
very big growth in the EU, which is exciting. Our
sheep meet up forty two percent. The value and this
is the key up eighty four percent because volume of
exports at the EU since February of nineteen. Netherlands up
forty five percent, UK up forty two percent, Japan's up
sixteen percent. We seemingly growing stuff on the land. At
the moment, we can do no wrong.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
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Speaker 2 (37:46):
News Talk said, been, Mike, how's labor going to work
with the Murray Party? What a very good question. Funnily enough,
I was thinking about exactly the same thing yesterday, and
I have something for you on that. Before seven thirty.
Mike hows that we've arrived as a state whereby the
Murray Party feel above the law. They're not, as Graham
just explained, it's got nothing to do with the law.
Doing a harker in Parliament is not against the law.
No one's getting arrested, just against the rules, which doesn't

(38:07):
make it legal. It's a rule based. Then, by the way,
we're govies arrived. They got the clearance yesterday Medsafe have
given you can get And here is the scam around
all of this. You can get a zempic in this
country for diabetes. But I know from I was going
to say from personal experience and not personal experience. I
know people who have got a zempic and they don't

(38:28):
remotely have diabetes. If you know the right doctor and
the right circumstances, you can go get a zepic for
the usual reasons that Hollywood uses as zepic. Anyway, we're
Gov's an alternative to a zempic, and that has been
cleared by Medsafe for weight loss as opposed to diabetes.

Speaker 23 (38:43):
So I was worried there for a moment if you
had had personal experience, because you just disappear.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
With I would be completely disappearing, by the way, just
to restore the fact that there is But sorry, I
forgot to mention Matt Terrell has disappeared. We may or
may not get him. I don't know. But the point
of this is the big vote today that Richard sort
about line in wisconsined probably more importantly in Florida. And
the only reason I wanted to tear along was to
work out whether or not Walsall Gates, whose seats are up,

(39:10):
whether the Republicans stand any real chance of losing that,
because it's two eighteen, two thirteen in the House. Lose two,
ye're two sixteen, two fifteen, and you're in real, real trouble.
But my assessment would be that the seats of Walts
and Gates are safe for the Republicans if for no
other reason, Trump's parked himself in Florida and has turned

(39:32):
the place increasingly Republicans. So that would be my yes.
If I get something different from that, I'll let you
know anyway to restore my faith in humanity, and if
not humanity, certainly the Wider and New Zealand public poll
out yesterday this is the read research stuff on the
school lunches, the question who's responsible for school lunches? And
you'd think, listening to the media, it was I don't know,

(39:52):
the government Social Welfare Department. It actually turns out to
be parents. Who would have thought so when you the
average middle of the road New Zealander who gets up
in the morning and goes to, oh, I don't know
a job and drops their kids at oh I don't
know school, then the chances are you packed them something,
or god forbid, they've actually packed their own lunch anyway.

(40:14):
So when you do a poll on this, sixty one
point five percent of us think it's actually the parents
role to supply the lunch of the day. That perhaps disturbingly,
thirty two point four percent think it's the government's job.
And in that we should all be deeply, deeply worried

(40:35):
if I ask you whose job is it to give
you a kid lunch? And a third of this nation goes, oh,
that'll be the government. Where buge it? Seven twenty.

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As some people have been this week about social media,
the Greens and their behavior. The bigger issue, I thought,
is not the Greens, but labor and all who might

(41:59):
support them into government. See as much as we may
froth and hyper ventilate about any given issue, on any
given day or small firestorm. Who runs the country and
how is what we all ultimately should be focused on.
Given we will not be going back to a single
large party ever again won because COVID is not repeating,
and even if it did, I doubt we would panic

(42:20):
again electorally the way we did. And two, given Labour
left their own devices literally destroyed the place. Most of us,
for good or bad, have come to the conclusion that
a mix of parties under this MMP system we seem
to have voted for is accepted and here to stay.
So National need at least one player, probably two, and
the same applies to Labor now. For now, National seems

(42:40):
to have got lucky and or well organized. Now, whether
you're supported or not, broadly speaking, National act in New
Zealand first get along fine. Media tries to stir up
bits of trouble around minor matters periodically, and we yet
to see I guess, a full blown campaign post their
first term, where the gloves might come off you, punches
might get thrown, but overall things accordial and well managed. Labor,

(43:00):
on the other hand, need certainly the Greens, possibly the
Marray Party. Both are increasingly Ropey. Both are increasingly belligerent,
Both are increasingly fringe. Both are an electoral nightmare for
a so called mainstream left wing party. The Greens of
James shaw, Rod Donald and Jeannette fitz Simon's they are
long gone. The Marray Party of Peter Sharples and Tariana
Turia long gone. Both the current Greens and the Murray

(43:23):
Party are anti establishment disruptors who revel in a type
of anarchy, almost as though they're outside the system. All
of which is fine if you like that and want
to vote for it, but it's completely incompatible to running
a country, even for a Labour Party that's become increasingly
left leaning and socialist. If you don't need or want
to be in power, and I don't think Arthur Greens
will marry party actually do. You can say whatever you want,

(43:45):
but Labour do want to be in power. And their
problem is they're going to end up having to answer
for an increasingly unhinged rebble, or at least try to
dress it up as something they can handle. And that's
their problem. And I don't think they have the wherewithal
to even come close to pulling that particular trick off.
Asking so Mike, a National MP has to fall on
his sword for touching somebody's arm, and yet a Green

(44:05):
MP transitioning his son to become a full of barh
blah blah. And this isn't the point. So this is
the agenda that's said, Why did Bailey quit because he
had expectations on him? Why won't this guy be in
any trouble at all with the Greens because he has
no expectations on him. And the way the Green Party
run their party and the way the National Party run
their party are two completely different things. And that's my point.
Labour's going to have to deal with that. Mike. I

(44:26):
wonder if that third of New Zealanders know where the
government get their money from. Of course they don't. They
don't care. Anybody who answers the question where do you
think your score kids lightly your kid's school lunch comes from?
Says the government wouldn't have the slightest idea about economics,
debt or anything to do with the economy broadly. Mike,
exactly what you said about the Marray Party. It's against
the rules. It seems that Mary believed they don't need
to follow any rules. Why then should any of the

(44:47):
rest of us, because we're better than they are. That's
the whole point. That's how society works. Otherwise you simply
sink to the lowest common denominator. My congratulations for twenty
five years of top class commons since broadcast. Go you
good thing. Jim's very nice if you missed that twenty
five years on z B yesterday I did allude apparently,
and my wife asked me yesterday, can you see what

(45:07):
the hell were you talking about? I said, two different
sorts of z be's and it's gone on longer than that.
What I meant by that is the history of z
be's an interesting one. And I worked many years ago
for three z B in christ Church before it became
News Talks v B, and I worked for four z
B and Duneedin before it became News Talks ed B.
So in terms of my z bishness, there's been more
than twenty five years worth of zedbness in me. But

(45:31):
this twenty five years is just news talk zed B
in the studio, well actually not in the studio and
other studios. But now it's getting really you've really cleared
that up, and I sound like a kerfuffled old fool don't.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
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Speaker 2 (45:54):
Can you ask Mitchell if the government can afford the
or counter for the America's Cup, how they can afford
school lunches? Well, the that is it's a coalition, Diggle,
and they all universally agreed to the problem, although in
a trimmed down version. As we well know, this is
extra and once you've set your budgets and you don't
have any money that's there, Well, that'll be their argument.
I'm sure, but you're right. I'll ask Mark after eight Mike,
we have ourselves to blame for the expectations of the government.

(46:15):
Should cut a lunch. We've taken responsibility for our kids,
six months maternity leave, twenty hours free childcare, Working for families,
WINS is a source for an emergency expense. Of course,
the government should make my child's lunch. Mike, you're forgetting
how fringe actor is. You can say actors fringe if
you want. But at the end of the day, what
I was talking about was behavior, not policy. It's behavior

(46:36):
and professionalism, and you can't argue that act aren't professional
and well behaved. Mike totally agreed. Don't have kids if
you can't make them a lunch. Morning, Mike, on school lunches,
you're spot on. It'll be interesting to get a perspective
of the thirty percent who put their argument that the
government should pay. Tell you the interesting thing that reminded
me the other day, and I alluded it to it
on the program. There was a Radio New Zealand journalist,
a senior Radio New Zealand journist whose name's up forgotten.

(46:57):
It doesn't really matter, she tweets out tweets since deleted.
Of course, once it got made who Anusia Bradley? So
Anusia Bradley tweeted out that she was disappointed that the
school would dropping the school lunch and she would have
to make all her child would have to make their
lunch because the school had probaded. Now a senior journalist.
My point at the time was a senior jour journalist

(47:19):
Radio New Zealand earned six figures, so, in other words,
that she's not sure to bread and jam, so she
was expecting. So that's the mentality I was talking about,
This mentality that even though you can you don't, because
the government will take care of you. Mark and Jinny.
After eight we found Matt tell by the way out

(47:41):
of phone problem. He apologizes. We'll get among a couple
of moments, just working through quickly these votes today in
America to see it. England dramatics going to happen, right,
we got a deal. The New Zealand Rugby Union and
the former sponsor in THEOS have sorted this thing Out's confidential,
but the word is the union got all of the
money for this year and a little bit of extra
go away money as well enios off the uniform. A
new deal needs to be done. The managing director of

(48:02):
Halo's what, Simon Porter, is with us. Simon, very good
morning to you.

Speaker 24 (48:06):
You might just finished making my.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
Sandwiches. Do the government doesn't for you?

Speaker 12 (48:13):
No?

Speaker 3 (48:13):
I know.

Speaker 24 (48:14):
Actually to be fear, my wife made them. But I
put them in the stool bags this morning, so I
think that.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Counts no fair enough. It's a joint contribution. There, you go,
well done. So if they got this year's money the
union and they got a little bit of go away
money to keep it out of court, is that a
win for the union.

Speaker 21 (48:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 24 (48:32):
I think so.

Speaker 22 (48:33):
Absolutely.

Speaker 24 (48:34):
I think they've got you know, some prized assets now
to sell back on the shorts and the training Jersey.
They've got you know, a tour to Africa next year.
They've got the Nation's Cup starting, they've got the rug
World Cup shortly. They've got an opportunity to go out
to market now probably and not have to you know,

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it's probably a bad term, but fire sale to get
it on to get something into the coffers. They've actually
got a time now to make sure they get a
good deal and probably something that might last a bit longer.

Speaker 18 (49:06):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (49:07):
Well, I was going to ask about is link the
issue when you go into what was a multi year deal,
are you taking a bigger risk as opposed to one,
two or three year deals or not.

Speaker 3 (49:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 24 (49:15):
Well, last time they were in market for Front of
Jersey they ended up doing I think it was about
six year deals with Alchrader on the Front of Jersey
with Anios and then Taysher Pharmaceuticals which is the Liverpood
and Hi Rugby Championship and they were six years. And
I think they'd like to get through a Rugby World
Capital tagged into Pinnacle events, but also the collective agreements

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with the players are generally three years duration, so I
imagine there's also a little bit of thinking around trying
to do six years get yourself through two sort of
collective agreement cycles. So now we're previously they had all
those sort of assets, we're all going to come off
at one time. They've actually got an opportunity now to
sort of probably break that cycle and get a longer

(49:59):
term partner that might not be coming off at the
same time as el tread who's got the frontages right?

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Has the Aeneos deal in any way shape or formed
into the All Blacks image? In other words, do people
believe it was in EOS. They don't have any money,
that's their problem. It's nothing to do with the All
Blacks and their value.

Speaker 24 (50:17):
I think that's probably a tough one to read from
down here in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
I mean, the All.

Speaker 24 (50:21):
Blacks are very much pitched as a global brand, and
I think they are a global brand. And in the OS,
I mean, I like fucking I like yachting, So I
knew in EOS were before they signed onto the All Blacks.
But I don't think there's probably a huge understanding of
whom and EOS are down in New Zealand, So I
don't think. I think it's probably been a net positive one.

(50:42):
You know, it's a big step taking legal action against
a company the size of Ineos particularly, you know, these
sponsorship deals, lots of them get broken and it's normally done,
but done behind closed doors. And so to take that step,
you know, in some ways I have admirations from using
on Rugby for you know, for taking that step and
actually go no, we're going to show the courage of
our convictions. We're in the right and we are going

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to take the legal step and go out there. And
so I think overseas has probably been viewed as a
bit of a curiosity. I don't think it would have
dented the brand at all. I do think it's probably
a good thing that it's been done by way of
sentiment as opposed to ever going to court. I don't
think anyone ever really wins apart from the lawyers when
it goes to court. So I think that, you know,

(51:24):
it's a net positive as far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 2 (51:26):
Great stuff, Simon, appreciate your expertise as always. Simon Porter,
who's the Halo Sport managing director. We like him eighteen
minutes away from eighty.

Speaker 18 (51:32):
To task gime.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
I'm completely and utterly the wrong person to talk about this,
but this draft English curriculum, there's a couple of things
going on here. This is the draft seven through thirteen curriculum.
I'll come back into a moment. Doesn't have enough Maori
in it, that's according to the teachers. But be that
as it may. It does have a lot of Shakespeare.
And I'll run you through a few of the options,

(51:53):
and I'll tell you why I'm completely the wrong person
to ask.

Speaker 1 (51:55):
Seventeen to the Asking Breakfast, a full show podcas on iHeartRadio,
Power by the News Talks, it'd be.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
Away from it. So this curriculum draft curriculum year seven
through thirteen structured so students in year sevens and eight,
seven and eight would establish fundamental skills in reading, writing,
and oral language, transitioning into text studies. Language studies from
years nine through thirteen and years seven and eight should
learn to handwrite with stamina and fluency while maintaining legibility, size,

(52:28):
spacing and stops, and to type efficiently and accurately. See
I can do none of that, and it hasn't held
me back. And this is where I sort of fall
by the wayside. Unfortunately, I hated school and I hated school.
I can't work out whether I hated school because most
of my teachers were useless or because I had a
bad attitude. I only went to school to play sport,
and I went to school to play sport and past

(52:50):
school certain yui, which in the eighties was what you
needed to go out and basically get a job, and
that I couldn't wait to get out into the real world.
Now is that on me or is that on the
education system? Anyway? I've never used a colon or a
semi colon in my life. You'd also learn to spell right.
So I can't spell well. I can spell okay, but
not particularly well my.

Speaker 23 (53:08):
Hand How do you spell adolescence?

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Exactly precisely? And that's the sort of thing that I
would trip up on. And Katie's superbt spelling, and she's
one of those people. I always go, how do you
spell adolescents? And he goes bing and I write it down.
My handwriting is shocking. It hasn't held me back in
any way, shape or form. Because we use typewriters these days.
To be able to type's probably a thing colon's and
semi colon's really typewriter. But you know what I'm saying,

(53:34):
if you end up in a in the legal profession,
I guess by years nine and ten students would know
what they needed to use accurate grammar and punctuation. Anyway,
it turns out in year thirteen, this is the interesting part.
In year thirteen, they're going to do Shakespeare my understanding,
and I've got a bit of experience, get having five
kids go through the system, my understanding of the year thirteen.
By the time you got to thirteen, you can pretty

(53:54):
much choose whatever you like. And suddenly Shakespeare is compulsory.
And I don't know why. Now, I did Beth in
the fifth form and it was boring, as I mean,
let's be honest, we're all sitting around Gayara. Shakespeare absolutely
sermonal work. It's crap. Yes he invented a lot of
words in the English language, and yes he's an interesting bloke,
and yes, if you want to know about the Globe
theater and what he did and stuff, that's well worth

(54:16):
knowing and learning and understanding. But to make it compulsory
is another step. Some of the stuff you're doing in
year seven and eight. For drama, you can do Anne Frank,
you can watch Bridge to Terror Beetha. There's some poetry
of World War one poets in year nine, poetry of
World War one poets.

Speaker 11 (54:35):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (54:35):
I mean, really, Macbeth is still year nine and ten, fantastic,
mister Fox, quite cool whale Rider. Current year eleven, you're
doing Lord of the Flies, year twelve, The Handmaid's Tale,
Shakespeare's sonnets, I mean, honestly in year twelve, but you're

(54:55):
getting You're seventeen years old and you're doing some sonnets
by Shakespeare, Hamlet in drama, the Truman Show. See they're
mixing it up. So I suppose they could argue, you
get a bit of this, bit of that, bit of
Yng bitter Yang, pride and prejudice in year thirteen The
Waste Land by T. S. Eliot or Fellow by William Shakespeare.
Once again, anyway, there's a bit of upset. You'll note

(55:16):
there's not a lot of Maori in that. And so
somebody walked out, some teachers college or teachers group union
walked out, and they won't.

Speaker 23 (55:22):
Having it depends how you do your production of Othello.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
That is true and that's that's the key to this, Glenn,
very good point. I know you weren't looking to make
quite as good a point as you did, But the
point is it's how you do it just having these
headlines or you do a bit of You can balk
heads to death with this stuff, or you can open
their eyes to something magical in the wider world. So
the key is, as always, and the skill and quality
of the teacher.

Speaker 23 (55:46):
I hate it when I accidentally make a good point.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
Yeah, well, don't do it again. Ten away from eight.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
The Hosking Breakfast with Vita Retirement Communities News togs Head be.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Given away from a as I mentioned earlier, Big Day
in America. They're voting on a couple of things, special
elections and Wisconsin for a seat on the Supreme Court,
couple of congressional races in Florida. A Republican strategist managing
partner and find howse strategies Metterill's back with us, Matt, Morning.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
With you.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Is there any chance that the Republicans are going to
lose Florida?

Speaker 3 (56:15):
I don't think so.

Speaker 20 (56:16):
Look, I think Republicans feel confident they're going to win
that race, and maybe by a closer margin than previous
election cycles for that district. But look, the truth is
the Democrat candidate has raised a significant amount of money.
That's not nothing. But the end of the day, I
think Republicans feel good about winning that race. I'm confident

(56:37):
Republicans will win that race, maybe a litle bit closer
in the margin, potentially under ten points or so.

Speaker 23 (56:42):
But we'll see what happens.

Speaker 2 (56:43):
Okay, then we come to Wisconsin. How serious is that
in which way? If it goes the wrong way, what unfolds?

Speaker 20 (56:50):
Well, look, I think that's a different race in the
sense that it's taking place in the battleground of battleground states.
The bottom line is, I think this is not just
about what happens in that race in terms of who's
gonna win it, but also what does that mean in
terms of the signal it sends in terms of where
the pulse of the country is. You know, if the
Republican bactor, I should say, President Trump backs candidate and

(57:11):
that race wins, I think it's very telling about the
mandate that he has the strength that he has when
it comes to the electorate. But look, you know, if
the Democratic bat candidate in that way, race wins. Obviously, that's,
let's me something that Democrats are going to rally behind.
Obviously they're low in the polls right now, They're proper
rating is not is not good right now, So I
think they're looking for any opportunity to to increase that.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Is there some sort of mark on Elon seeing he's
being particularly active in Wisconsin? Is it or is it
all about Trump?

Speaker 20 (57:44):
Look, I think it's it's really not necessarily about either.
I mean, look, sure Elon Musk is involved in terms
of you know, uh, contributions in terms of his his
pack and those elements, but so are you know, Democratic
leaders may look Governor J. B. Pritzker, a billionaire is
donated to the Democrat back can'tate in that racecus billionaires

(58:04):
on both sides, But in terms of funding and contributions,
I think at the end of the day, this race
is about the issues that Wisconsin voters care about. For example, redistricting.
That's a huge issue many voters are concerned about in
the state. Obviously, it's something that I think the electorate
will be focused on. There'll be national trends in this race.
Knows a question about it, But the end of the day,
it's about what the Wisconsin voters think, and they're concerned

(58:25):
about key issues such as a redistricting and other issues.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
So if the Republican gets up in Wisconsin and they
win in Florida as well, that's a good day for
Trump and liberation die tomorrow and its business as usual.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 20 (58:38):
Look, let's let's see what happens here in terms of
the outcome. But look, if Republicans do well, obviously going
to strengthen President Trump's mandate. If Democrats have any wins,
you know, then obviously it's gonna be something that they
rally around. But I think Republicans feel good going in
to the election.

Speaker 15 (58:53):
Here.

Speaker 2 (58:53):
Great stuff, good to catch up, appreciate it very much.
Met toill Republican strategiest managing partner refly house strategies have
four minutes away from eight Michael. I went to Limoit High.
Murray Leach put on my report only play sport here.
Murray Leach was my teacher as well. He did me
in geography, sixth form geography at what it was, spend
a lot of time. He had one of those offices
at the back of the classroom. I don't know how
that happened, but you went into a classroom and at

(59:15):
the back of the classroom was an office. Murray Leach
used to spend his entire time listening to the cricket.
He'd come in and he'd say, I want you to
read today pages eighteen through eight hundred and twelve, knowing
full well that none of us would do that or
even come close. And then he'd retired to the back
office and turned the cricket on. When Peter Sharp was
doing the commentary, Peter Sharp was also a Limward High
operator as well. You see, so I mean most of

(59:36):
the world came out of Lindward High.

Speaker 11 (59:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 23 (59:40):
I wish they did teach like they taught me Old
Day's Eh.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
I've told this through a million times. I did the
truth about the Fonds, which was an unauthorized autobiography, and
I did that in years Form four, Form five, and
Form six, the same one each year, and I got
different marks every year. Didn't harm me, just saying Mark
Mitchell and Jenny Anderson five Moments Away Politics Wednesday on

(01:00:07):
the Mike Hosking.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Breakfast, Mike Hosking will be faithful, engaging and vitally The
Mike Casking Breakfast with the Range rover Villa designed to
intrigue and use Tom's dead be in my life.

Speaker 9 (01:00:25):
I've learned a lot, not from things that.

Speaker 5 (01:00:31):
Good, from things that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
I have none. Isn't she incredible? I love her Ellison
Kraus and she's back with the Union Station. If you
don't know the story, She's done two things in her career.
Wan Is do her solo thing, and then she was
with Union Station, which is her backing band and this
is the first time she's recorded with them for fourteen years.

(01:00:53):
They were backing her way back in nineteen ninety, so
she's been around a long time. So this is ten tracks.
These are songs that she's collected did during the band's hiatus,
so presumably she collected these songs rang up Union Station
said hey, guys, I've got some songs. Just backed me
up and we'll call it an album, which is what
they've done, and it's called Arcadian. She reminds me a

(01:01:17):
little bit of Nancy Griffith, the late Great Nancy's given
a little bit of Emilu Harris.

Speaker 11 (01:01:22):
Why don't you.

Speaker 22 (01:01:25):
Maybe I can get it?

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Ten tracks, thirty five minutes and fifty one seconds, Lovely
Isner eight minutes Past sake, Mark Mitchells will it's along
with Jenny Anderson.

Speaker 18 (01:01:34):
Good morning, good morning, good morning, Good morning, Mike morning, Jenny,
Good morning Mike, and happy anniversary.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Thank you so much. It's very kind of You've been
listening for the whole twenty five years and loving every minute. Ginny.

Speaker 18 (01:01:45):
I don't know if it was the full twenty five years,
but I haven't been listening for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
Good on you, Mark. How much heat are you taking
on the socials as they say over not giving the
America's cup people the money?

Speaker 25 (01:01:57):
Not as bad as what I thought it might have been,
but the reality of it so I mean, of course,
you know, we want to have the America's Coupy. It's
such a big part of who we are as a country.
But the reality of it was is that the government
seventy five million dollars of tax bars money at the
moment is needed in health, in education.

Speaker 11 (01:02:12):
It was just too much.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
Did it go to cabinet? Did it get seriously considered?
Did you fight your corner? Did any of that happen
or no?

Speaker 11 (01:02:20):
Yeah, I got absolutely got seriously considered. It went to.

Speaker 25 (01:02:24):
You know, the Major Events team and MB of course
the Minister of Finance has got oversight on there and
killed it. And well there's there were big discussions head
around it. Let me assure you of that, and looking
at every angle in terms of course we'd love to
have the America's Cup. Hey, at the end of the day,
everyone knows that we're fiscally runder the pump. Seventy five

(01:02:45):
million dollars of tax bars money is a lot of money,
and there's other areas of that we want to prioritize
at the moment.

Speaker 18 (01:02:50):
Can you really come like that? But can I just
say that, but there was enough money for it, which
tacks in I think today or yesterday the two point
nine billion dollars of ex breaks to lean lawds. There
was money in the budget for that though, Well that's that.

Speaker 11 (01:03:05):
Is just complete nonsense.

Speaker 25 (01:03:06):
And by the way, when labor was in last and government,
you prioritize money for other years as well, and not
the America's Cup. And as much as we'd love to
host the America's Cup.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
As much as much we've love just pointing out my
and there's nothing.

Speaker 25 (01:03:20):
Stopping and there's nothing stopping if there's other funding available
for it still be hosted in New Zealand, but at
the moment this goverment.

Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
See, I mean, you can go down this track as
long as you want. I mean, I personally argue parents
should make school lunches and we should save one hundred
and something million dollars on that, and therefore we can
fund the America's Cup. But can you, honestly, Ginny hand
on heart, given the fiscal circumstances of the day, say
you would have done anything different.

Speaker 18 (01:03:43):
Well, I haven't seen those negotiations. We probably would have
given it one more punt to see if we can stick,
because those spill ow the benefits we saw last time
were significant for small businesses, for the local economy. When
you bring that many people into the country and have
that much attention on New Zealand, that the money that
comes into country has repeat benefits for the local economy.
And that's a great thing. And right now people are

(01:04:06):
crying out for the extra hope and a bit of
extra money for local tourism that comes in through that stuff.
So my view is that if there was an opportunity
to have another crack in another round of the DNE appreciation,
we would have had a crack.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Three years seventy five, twenty five a year, it's two
million a month. Did you look at it that way?
I mean you spend more on photocopying than that.

Speaker 11 (01:04:28):
No, we just looked at it.

Speaker 25 (01:04:29):
In the sense that, well, of course there was you know,
the Minister of Finance and NBA major events that went through,
did the analysis and looked at what it was going
to be the cost to the tax par and.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Well it's seventy five over three years as two million
dollars a month. I've done the numbers for you. You didn't
even need to ring well, NBA could ring me.

Speaker 25 (01:04:44):
Well, I think that the reality of it is is
that is that most key we would support having the
America's Cup year. There is a threshold in terms of
what key we think we should be investing as a country.
Seventy five million dollars at the moment for us as
a lot of money.

Speaker 11 (01:04:58):
We do have to prioritize.

Speaker 25 (01:04:59):
We do have to make tough decisions, something that labor
didn't do when they're in governments.

Speaker 11 (01:05:03):
Why we're in the situation now.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
All right, Well, I mean it is what it is. Obviously, Jenny,
look big picture here. When you looked at the Mallori
party yesterday and the Privileges Committee. When you look at
Tamotha Paul time several, when you look at the bloke
who's been texting out weird stuff, honestly, hand on heart
in an adult way, explain to me how you run
a country with that lot.

Speaker 18 (01:05:26):
Well, watches show you've.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
Put anyone of any one of them.

Speaker 18 (01:05:30):
So are you wanting like five words to someone?

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
No, No, I'm just saying. I'm just saying this is
going to be a major major issue for you guys
next to you, because these guys are weirdos, and you're
going to have to explain to New Zealand that don't
worry about it. We're in control here and we'll we'll
bring them into line, so vote for us.

Speaker 11 (01:05:49):
Well, Hipkins is supporting them as well.

Speaker 18 (01:05:51):
It's ridiculous, it's not true.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
True, So you.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Didn't he go down our Merriment's all okay?

Speaker 18 (01:06:02):
Absolutely, each of those issues, each of those issues are
separate ones, the one because you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Pile them up into a great, big, heaping pile of
weirdness and you and you you know it's not your fault,
but it is your problem. You've got to explain it.

Speaker 18 (01:06:17):
Well, that's why we continue to be a strong organized
opposition that holds this government to account on issues that
don't make sense to say when they say we don't
have enough money.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
No lit all of that. And so you will go
out and.

Speaker 18 (01:06:30):
That's what if we make sure we're a tight ship.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
You and fantastic and so you go into the election
and you want. I get that. But in an environment
you're going to need the dreams of not the Maori Party,
and they are not.

Speaker 18 (01:06:47):
So can I find out? So I'm I glad to
talk now? Is it now?

Speaker 11 (01:06:50):
I talk? Really interested?

Speaker 18 (01:06:53):
Just chicking. We stick to what we know and do well,
which is holding this government to account and making sure
that we are out there every day talking to New
Zealanders and making it clear that it's not okay right
now key weis are doing it incredibly tough. They don't
have enough money for food or rent or mortgages, and
you have a government giving two point nine billion dollars
away to landlords this month, or the minimum wage increases

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by thirty five cents, not even enough to meat inflation.
They're the real problems.

Speaker 11 (01:07:23):
Basically.

Speaker 25 (01:07:24):
So basically you've had the Green Party come out with
a full frontal attack or on our police suit.

Speaker 18 (01:07:29):
By the way, and I've been very clear on this
program about that Mark right when it broke, I was
a just one to be asked whether we would I
think the Mark said, so what do you say, Jenny
when tamathacys we're going to defund the police and my
exec No, Tamotha, We're not going to defund the police.

Speaker 11 (01:07:46):
I know you're very sensitive about this, but just let
me finish.

Speaker 25 (01:07:50):
So basically, you had the Greens come out and to
tech our police.

Speaker 18 (01:07:53):
Are you going to restate what Mark just are years ago?
To restate what white this is? Because I think that's
what you're going to do. Mike, Like, can you get
a funny joke? You just like to keep telling it
again and again?

Speaker 11 (01:08:04):
Can I for this, Jinny?

Speaker 18 (01:08:05):
Or yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:08:07):
You?

Speaker 25 (01:08:08):
So basically you had the Greens come out and to
take the police. You had Hipkins as the leader of
the Labor Party, come out and condemn those comments. Then
he gets on a call to morrow but Davidson, the
leader of the Green Party, and he becks out of
it and says, oh, no, I think the Greens have
raised legitimate issues. This is these are the two parties
I want Key Weis to think about this very carefully.
Labor and Greens voted against every single public safety piece

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of legislation that we've brought to the House this term.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
I gotta go to the break Let let me do
this and I'll come back in the moment.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
But quarter past day, the Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show
podcast on Ihard Radio, cow it By News.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
Talks it Use Talks. There be eighteen past eight to
Mark and Jinny with this politics Wednesday. Let me change
it up slightly for your Jinny. The Marray Party in
their contempt the Privileges Committee, are you comfortable with the
way they're behaving? She there were gone, disappeared? What's happened there?

Speaker 11 (01:09:01):
Here? Not here?

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
Jenny's gone, She's disappeared, gone, She's sorry, So you're back?
Did you go? Did you go get some advice from
the spin doctors? Jenny? What was happening there?

Speaker 11 (01:09:16):
No?

Speaker 18 (01:09:16):
I did not. I don't know what happened. That made
a funny noise.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
So Mary Party, let me ask you, the Mary Party
in their contempt of the privileges, are you comfortable with
that or not?

Speaker 18 (01:09:24):
Well, Penny went to the Privileges Committee and hey.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
When he behaved himself and said sorry and did the
right thing though he.

Speaker 18 (01:09:32):
Did make the point though that he stood by doing
the hucker, And I think this is a tricky new
area for Parliament. It's when is the hucker okay? And
when is it not? Well, that's the privileges job is okay,
it is. Indeed.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
What I'm asking though is let's take you as Labor
seriously and let's take national seriously. And you've got these
fringe weirdos on the side just becombing their nose at history, heritage, professionalism.
What you want. Does that sit comfortably with you or not?

Speaker 18 (01:10:04):
Well, it's a new territory we're navigating. So it's one
that is tricky, and it's the one with a speaker
has a clear role in terms of determining what happens next.
But yeah, it is new area. We believe Labor we
want to be part of the Privileges Committee and part
of that. But Penny did note when he went through
that process that he stood by doing the hooker as well.

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So that's an issue for the multi party to navigate.
But it will be an interesting time for Parliament how
we respond and how this works its way through.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Do you recognize.

Speaker 25 (01:10:35):
I just think that you know it's really important that
we have standards in our parliament. I see school groups
coming through all the time.

Speaker 11 (01:10:41):
Yep.

Speaker 25 (01:10:43):
We should have strong debates and there's no doubt about that.
In a bit of rough and tumble, but standards are important.
Behavior is important, and I think standards have slipped oddly lots.
We had a Green Party member in the House the
other day with the leather jacket on, trying to look
like Fonds rally. We got the Married Party that get
out of their seats come forward and start doing a
hark with obviously with the obvious intent of trying to

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intimidate other members of the House. You've got a Green
Party member that came over and was abusive towards a
you know, another National Party member. I just the standards matter,
and actually we meant to be leaders and we should
be providing, we should be setting the standard exactly.

Speaker 11 (01:11:19):
And so you know that's my thoughts on well done.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
A quick question for you, Ginny, as regards last week's
discussion on things. You're not going to cancel for the
sake of canceling. If broadly speaking what Peters comes up
with the fairies is fine, you won't do anything about
it. It is what it is, yeah or no.

Speaker 18 (01:11:34):
New Zealand needs rail enabled fairies and it's a real
I think it's a real lost New Zealand. We've had
to pay three hundred billion billion so far for the
break fees.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
Like no, no, no, we're now to play anything for
the breakthrough so far and if.

Speaker 18 (01:11:48):
We get they keepnet paper that was made available. Note
step that was seen. It was leaked, I think actually,
but it was seen. Three hundred million was put in
the four break fees.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Yeah, but that's everything, that's last year of infrastructure and
the whole lot. If we get hund aid to make
those ships right that off, it'll be a non event.

Speaker 18 (01:12:09):
Well that's that's yet to be determined. But we've got
exactly what we had in place before, but it's smaller
and it's taken another two years on top of what
we're waiting.

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
But if they get what they get, you're not going
to do anything about it is what it is, and.

Speaker 18 (01:12:26):
We've said got them that that's the high way. We
want that through the cook straight. It's critical for New
Zealand's infrastructure and we will support here.

Speaker 25 (01:12:33):
There's just massive cost blow.

Speaker 11 (01:12:36):
It's that the textpoker couldn't afford.

Speaker 18 (01:12:37):
Under labor and out under you as well.

Speaker 11 (01:12:41):
No, it's not true. It's going to it's going to be.
It's going to be far more economic for the text parent.
It's going to deliver a world class We.

Speaker 18 (01:12:46):
Have seen no prices Mike on what it will be.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
So well, they're going to be less than four billion,
aren't they? And I think Peters has said that, and
he said, quote unquote, it will save us billions. So
if it saves us billions, it'll be cheaper, won't.

Speaker 18 (01:12:57):
It will take a look when we see those.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
All right, Nice to see you, guys, Dan Anderson, Mark
Mitchell for another week eight twenty two.

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you said she couldn't answer the question. That's my point.
I'm trying to allude to next year, and this is

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where it's going to get tricky for the Labor Party
because mark my words, there are going to be any
number of questions about now, what are you going to
do about the Greens here? What about the Greens policy there?
What about when to party? Mari said this, how are
you going to handle that? And that is going to
haunt them from the day that election is called to
the day that we actually come to vote. Mike, my

(01:14:36):
ten year old makes his own lunch. We provide the
goods and he puts it together and it's up to
him to do it in time and how he likes
it to pieces of fruit, a little snack packet and sandwiches,
whatever he puts in. Nick, please don't text this program
with your middle class efficiency and organization. No one's interested
in that. What we want is to function and upset
and misery and lots more of it so the government

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can step in and wipe everyone's bum and solve everyone's problem.
Steve Price on the election campaign After the news, which
is next? Here is news talk, sadly.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
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Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Be Mike, I thought National was supposed to be smart
and business savvy. The GST take on the increased revenue
across the America's Cup would double or triple their investment,
which is even more revenue to spend on schools and health.
They just don't get it. That is an argument. It's
one of those you can understand both sides of Buy
was a judge and this was a tribunal, and Mark
Mitchell presented the government's argument, and you presented the people's argument.
I'd probably side with you, not by a lot, by enough,

(01:15:44):
because big events help and anything that brings in reputation
to the country and people to the country and money
to the country and helps hospow and it helps tourism
and stuff we're all for and we should be into
see it as an investment, not an expense. They saw
it as an expense, do they? And I think the
clue from Mark was he talked to Nicola about it,
and you can see why Nichola is at with the
money at the moment. In the moment, you see it
as an expense. They have no money. They've got less

(01:16:06):
than no money. They're not running a surplus for years
to come, and so you can understand that from a
straight up and down. Is there any money in the wallet? No,
there isn't well, we're not spending what money we don't have?
You get that part? Is it an investment that will
potentially pay off several times over? Yes, that's the bit
and the part you've looked into. We're open for business?

(01:16:27):
Are we really twenty two minutes away from nine?

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
International correspondence with ends and eye insurance? Peace of mind
for New Zealand business see Pride in Australia, Good morning
to you.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
Yeah, that arguments a bit like the Grand Prix and Melbourne.
You'll be honest, I mean, two hundred million dollars a
year in a state that's broke with debt going through
the ceiling and basically having to cut basic services. But
do you give up a global event that any country,
particularly Asian countries would grab with both hands, or Sydney
would even take it? You know, you don't say, look,

(01:17:00):
we're just going to have to ride this out. We've
got a contract for this thing for the next I
think it's ten years, so why would you get rid
of it?

Speaker 11 (01:17:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Exactly. Mus Bullet came to the part, well, I mean
if she'd cut, I suppose the government would have been happy,
but no one was expecting a cut.

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
Were they no, not in the middle of an election campaign.
I mean, the Reserve Bank is benificisely independent. Politicians tell
you that. The Bank tells you that, but they're aware
that to do it in the middle of a campaign.
We're only in week one with four weeks to go,
would be seen as too political. I mean, the government

(01:17:35):
would have seized upon that and said, see, we're in charge,
we know what we're doing. Interest rates are going down,
inflation's going down, which it really is not. You've got
to reelect this because if you have a risk on
this other mob, you don't know what's going to happen.
I An incumbency, as you know, Mike, is a great
advantage when you're a first term government. In particular, no
first term government in Australia has lost government since nineteen

(01:17:59):
thirty one, in the middle of the Great Depression, when
Joe Lyons was the Prime Minister, So the Bank was
never going to do that. Interestingly, it was the first
decision of this new Finance Board that's now attached to
the Reserve Bank rather than the Reserve Bank Board itself.
That was a change that Jim charm has made and
we're going to probably see every economist is telling me

(01:18:22):
maybe one at best two infrastrate cuts between now and
the end of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
Okay, now, Liberation Day, you have more to lose than
we do. See, we've got a balanced portfolio. In fact,
here's the ironing of you. I think it's tipped in
favor of America. And you had that phone call with
Elbow and Trump and he hasn't been able to get
back on the phone to him since. And you're going
to get ping, don't you.

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
Well everyone's engines divided on this, but we shouldn't because
we've got a seventeen point nine billion on a trade
surplus at the United States. I mean, we buy a
hell of a lot, much more from them than that
they furchased from us. But there are a couple of
interesting little twists to this that could cause Australia some pain.

(01:19:03):
The main one would be that if he wacks a
lot of tariffs on China, which is probably likely, then
China might stop buying as much of our mineral exports
as they do because they won't have to make as
much because they won't be able to sell as much. Also,
China might flood the Australian market with cheap products, but
overall we should be okay. But the meat industry is

(01:19:24):
the big one.

Speaker 2 (01:19:25):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
The majority of Australian meat. When I read this, I
was staggered, is produced for export and most of that
goes to the United States. This industry, I mean it
employs half a million people. We exported in twenty twenty
three latest figures to get almost three point nine billion
billion dollars worth of meat to the US. They're our

(01:19:47):
biggest meat importer. They've overtaken China. And the meat producers
of the US don't like it at all. They keep
getting into Trump administration years over there and saying, listen,
this mob is flooding with their cheap meat. We shouldn't
let it happen. So that's one area that will be
probably to look at. And the other thing is pharmaceuticals.

(01:20:07):
Because of our pharmaceutical benefit scheme, we buy in bulk,
so we buy all the drugs that we need made
by the Americans and we then put it on our
scheme and then Australian's play the retail price as opposed
to individuals buying American drugs to use in Australia. So
that's another thing. Apparently they're upset by it, but we're
going to just.

Speaker 22 (01:20:26):
Have to wait and soon.

Speaker 2 (01:20:27):
Funny, it's funny, and you'd be know about this. The
news media bargaining code is tied up there as well,
because we were looking at you and if it went
well with you, we were going to try something similar.
But that's not going to go well with you because
Netflix is American, along with a bunch of others, and
if you're going to go at them, they're going to
go at you. So I think that's dead in the
water as well, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:46):
The air Meta is the big one, of course, and
the Australian government is introduced this and the Americans don't
like it, and you're going to imagine the Zuckerburts of
this world are going to be in Trump's year. So
we'll have to wait and see what happens with that
Thursday morning, our time and your time, so we'll see
what happens.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
Okay, now, just background this because it has been going
on for a while. So the acting Victorian Police Commissioner
quits after forty one days and you go, well, hang on,
why was he acting? And then that's where the story began.

Speaker 3 (01:21:10):
Of course, Yes, we're in the middle of a crime wave,
the worst ruth youth crime figures we've ever seen in
our history. Every night, people breaking, kids age thirteen fourteen
breaking the house of steel, cars get out on the freeways,
drive it two hundred kometers an hour, smash them up
and run away. I mean, that's a simplification, but that's
what's happening. And at the same time, every vapor and

(01:21:32):
tobacco shop in the stake gets burned down because organized
crime figures are involved in selling illegal tobacco. So that's
the crime wave. The chief commissioner pushed back. The former
chief commissioner shown pattern pushback on the government who wanted
to and did soften bail laws, so these kids are
in a bail revolving door. He was going to have

(01:21:54):
a five year contract extension that was chucked up, thrown away,
putting the bin. So he I was sacked in the blog.
Who replaced him was supposed to be the hand picked
choice to be the new commissioner. Forty one days later,
we wake up this morning and he said it's all
too hard on gone. So we have a state with
five million people in a crime wave and no one

(01:22:15):
in charge of the police.

Speaker 11 (01:22:16):
Force.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
Great, good on you all right, mate, go well catch
up next week's appreciate it very much, Steve Price. Yeah,
so this is for New Zealand, the news media Bargaining Code.
I've argued all along it was never going to work.
It was a complete and utter waste of time. But nevertheless,
big that as it may. We were looking to Australia.
This is the news media Bargaining Code. Was the law
that would make your netflixes, your metas all those sort
of people pay in some way, shape or form for content.

(01:22:39):
There may be some sort of role. For example, if
you want to make movies in Australia, then you have
to employ Australians. But if you take the content then
you've got to pay for it. There's a tax on it,
all that sort of stuff. Anyway, it's dead in the water,
and if it's dead in the water there, it's dead
in the water here. Obviously, meantime, home prices as a
result of yesterday, not directly, but of course the first
cup from there are b have continued to rise. The

(01:23:02):
house price in Australia. Melbourne up zero point six percent
for the quarter, Sydney up zero point five percent. Melbourne's
media now is just under a million. Sydney's medians just
under one point five million. If you want to see
some boom areas of Australia and housing Perth up eleven
point three percent in a year, Western Australia's Midwest twenty

(01:23:24):
five point four percent in a year, Townsville and Queensland
twenty four percent, The York Peninsula, which is where they
sort of seen rockets off periodically. No, it's not. I
made that up seventeen point two percent. So I mean
there are some booming, booming parts of Australian housing at
the moment. Eight forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
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Speaker 2 (01:23:51):
There's some Ongoe coverage this week about tower On a
city council, and I'm sure it's not unique to tower On,
but I wonder if it's unique to souls or whether
this is just regular, ordinary every day's stuff in workplaces.
So four hundred and seventy thousand dollars is what the
city council spends on coffee, machines and coffee for the
council workers. Their total bills one hundred and twenty eight million.

(01:24:13):
That's for staff, salaries, perks, expenses, et cetera. They got
thirteen hundred full time staff members. Does that strike you
as a lot for Tower on the City. This is
not the whole Bay of plenty because you've got the
Western Bay of Planning in the bay, a pen of
regional and all that sort of stuff. This is just
Tower on the City, thirteen hundred full time people. May
Drysdale's the mayor these days looking to slash one hundred jobs.
But there are five hundred and fourteen staff that are

(01:24:35):
paid above one hundred thousand dollars. There are two hundred
ninety six of them paid above one hundred and twenty
thousand dollars. So that's good money. That's a lot of
people being paid a pretty reasonable amount of money. Their
chief executive is one of the highest paid CEOs in
the country. He gets paid more than his equivalent in
Wellington and christ Church and yet he's in Towering Or.
He's on six hundred and six thousand, seven hundred and
fifty five dollars plus fringe benefits. The fringe benefits, by

(01:24:57):
the way, read a very interesting piece on fringe benefit
tech spt you ever looked into that. That is the
most they're look at they're reviewing it at the moment.
The idea put out a discritionon document and it is
the most convoluted pile of nonsense in the history of
convoluted piles of nonsense. And I don't have time to
talk about it. We might tomorrow. Anyway. I first became

(01:25:20):
involved with FBT when I got given a car. I
had a job, and funnily enough, it was radio in
New Zealand and I got given a car as part
of my job, and the FBT discussion around it was
the most absurd thing you've ever seen. Anyway, be that
as it may fourteen million on consultants. You can get
donuts this week if you work for the Tower on
the City Council, you get donuts. They do that. You

(01:25:43):
can get a interest free loan if you want to
buy an e biker rescuter. Now not against the interest
free loan because you have to pay it back, but
presumably the council gets the money from somewhere and they
may be paying interest on that. That doesn't make sense
to me. You get an additional week of annual leave.
There's access to group life insurance policy. Now this gets
into the area I'm not sure that's unusual. I think

(01:26:04):
a lot of companies offer a company wide access or
opportunity to things like insurance. There's five thousand for staff
returning from parental leave. There's flu vaccination. Most companies do that.
I think there's a contribution. If you want your eyes
examined and some glasses, they'll help pay for that. There's
subsidized physiotherapy, massage. Is this going beyond the realms of
what a council or an employer should be offering or

(01:26:26):
are you sitting there listening to this going, oh, well,
my boss, officers, what are you talking about?

Speaker 23 (01:26:30):
I'm being message right now. What's the problem with that?

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
Very good question? Nine away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
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Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
Who pays the fpet to the governor and all of
those perks. That's why I raise the questions. Very good questions,
very valid question. So as part of the documentation that
the idea put out at the moment in essence, you
can cars a good example, So if you use your
car exclusively for work to go from say one job
site to another, you exempt if you use your car

(01:27:01):
like everybody does like you go from one work site
to another, but then you pop home, you're supposed to
pay some sort of fringe benefit tax. Very few people
I suspect do. If you use it entirely for your
personal use, you fully hit. What about gifts, Well, they're
talking about the idea that's something under two hundred dollars.
So when you nanodize and the company sends flowers to

(01:27:21):
the funeral, do they pay FBT on that or is
that ridiculous? Of course it's ridiculous, but you need to
have some sort of rule or understanding or language around it.
So they're thinking about a couple of hundred dollars a
perk of the job. Somebody goes, mate, well done, great week, congratulations,
I'll buy you a beer, So no FBT on that. Congratulations,

(01:27:41):
well done, I'll take you and the family to Disneyland FBT,
I'll take you out to dinner more than two hundred
dollars FBT, And so it goes on. So there is
no right or wrong or well they're trying to find
out what a right or wrong is. But I mean
it's as loose as a goose, as they say. Five
away from nine.

Speaker 12 (01:27:59):
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Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
Let me take you live to the floor of the house.

Speaker 19 (01:28:06):
Blooming fall served and he has a son Navy seal.
We should have a reverence for those people because a
lot of them didn't make it back. A lot of
people didn't make it back, and a lot of people
who came home came home.

Speaker 3 (01:28:20):
With horrible wounds.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
Book in visible and invisible his voice because he's emotionally
wrapped up in what he's saying all because he's been
standing there now for twenty one hours. So this is
the filibuster effort of Corey Booker, the Democrats, who is
looking to stall any form of business in the Congress.
Started at seven pm Washington time yesterday, which was midday

(01:28:43):
our time, because that's when I started watching, and I thought,
this guy's going to take his jacket off, and he's
going to loosen his tie, and he's going to roll
up his sleeves and he's going to but you can't
do that and not allowed to. So he's now been going.
It's coming up four pm Mere time, and so he
will have been going for twenty one Our strong Therman,
the famed strong Therman in fifty seven was trying to

(01:29:04):
prevent the Civil Rights Bill from passing. He talked, it
didn't work, obviously, our twenty four hours and eighteen minutes.
He can take questions, so the other Dems are asking
him stuff, so nice long winded question, so he can
sort of pause. What makes it really interesting is he
isn't allowed to sit down, So that's stamina. So twenty
one hours of standing up in a suit and a jacket.

(01:29:25):
I would have started without the jacket, because you're warming
yourself into it, aren't you. I would have started without
the jacket myself. And if isn't what their situation is there,
it's a fair coal. So he's not allowed to sit down.
Now he's a really interesting case. It's not allowed to
go to the toilet. So then you've got your hydration issue,
because hydration in exertion is critical and if you exert

(01:29:49):
and don't hydrate, you fall over. So you need to
balance up the hydration with the exertion this but also
not overhydrate because then that then becomes presumably a problem.
Highland twenty one hours full of American soul in counting
we never meet it home back tomorrow morning from six
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