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Speaker 1 (00:00):
New Zealand's Voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking
breakfast with the range rover villa designed to intrigue and
use togs headbs.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Hodding and welcome today, Frank Tariffs. Are we inline new
sanctions for the job this as part of this traffic
light system. We got the head of the Phase two
of the COVID inquiry in our palming in their council
and their obsession with busy drinks. So the lads in
the commentary box up prod Steve Price, Richard Arnold part
of the A team as well pasking welcome for the
week seven past six. We all love a poll and
I think David Seymour can take great heart out of

(00:31):
the Horizon Pole published Friday that she owed seventy eight
percent of US seventy eight percent of US. I think
it's important to have a respectful discussion around treaty issues.
Previously was eighty percent, but both numbers of comprehensive majorities,
and you can mount a pairly solid argument that that's
exactly what Seymour's trying to do around the principles built now.
The Pole also deals with protection of human rights. Not surprisingly,

(00:53):
we're in favor of those, and an awful lot of
us want a sense of belonging, So it's at that
point you're starting to get into Philly territory. But back
to the treaties, sixty three percent think remedying past and
justices is important, which if you'd asked me, I would
have guessed slightly higher. But that low number, in part
is because the past and justice business has dragged on

(01:14):
so ridiculously long you tend to lose a foo few
early fans along the way. I mean, I'm all for
trying to correct past wrongs, but we started literally fifty
years ago, and there remain the stragglers that have turned
it into a time wasting gravy train. So they're testing
the national patients. As my thinking on that number, but
as regards our so called respect and respectful discussion about
t tendity the trouble, as the radicals always hijack these

(01:36):
sort of things. Of course, before you know it, people
like Seamore are evil. There are protests and threats and
regular ordinary everyday New Zealanders like us feel aggrieved, left
out and hijacked. Harmonious race relations has eluded us for years,
not because of Seymour or a bill. But because we
are not all equal, because we don't have one law
for everyone or rules for everyone, we have laws based
on race. Therefore we're a racist country that's led to

(01:59):
resentment and grieving in a no small part to a
previous government losing office in the poll is the genuine
desire by a lot of ordinary, everyday regular New Zealanders
to have a look at a system gone awry. If
Seymour's bill was an attempt at drawing attention to that,
it started out okay, but as always, most of us
have been shunted to the side again as the crazies

(02:19):
let loose. You would hope the pole might sober a
few of them up, but I'm not holding my breath.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
News of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Well, it looks like the trade wars begun.

Speaker 4 (02:30):
We pay hundreds of billions of dollars to subsidize Canada.
Why there is no reason we don't need anything they have.
Canada should become our cherish fifty first state, much lower
taxes and far better military protection for the people of Canada.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Not just Canada, Mexico and China wrapped up in the
opening stands and north of the border Justin who's still
in charge for a few more weeks.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
He was down the tariffs against Canada will put your
jobs at risk, potentially shutting down American arto assembly plants
and other manufacturing facilities.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
They will raise costs for you.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Then Trump's right hand men, he's reinforcing the president's air
traffic control ideas.

Speaker 6 (03:11):
They were white people who wanted to be air traffic controllers,
and under the DEI regime of the Biden administration they
weren't welcome.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Well, what does that mean? Number one?

Speaker 6 (03:19):
It means that we don't have the best in the
brightest sometimes in these positions in Europe.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Britain's pondering another aniversary of bricks at pressures growing from
the likes of the Libdems to try and cut some
sort of new deal. Starmer who's there in the EU
at the moment's playing it down.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
I do want to reset the relationship between the UK
and the EU that does not involve a return to
the European Union.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
And we had a referendum here on that. That matter
is settled.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
And even if you did one too, we need a plan.

Speaker 7 (03:47):
Russels are still waiting for the new Labor government to
present concrete proposals how we can improve our relationship. In
the meantime, senior Commission officials have made some opposed have
presented some ideas.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Fortunately, Starmers having dinner with Shultz of Germany, so he
wasn't bothered by the Barclays outage. Like this bloke.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Friday evening, we went to Tascos, did our big weekly shop,
got to the checkout.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
And everything was declined. So that was kind of embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, it's been a weekend of shambles anyway. Finally in
f one auction this week and we've got to salt
the Mercedes W one nine six as streamliner driven by Serling,
Mars and Wa Fangio No less, there was up for
auction at Southby's. It's sold. Came in at ninety four
million dollars. Only four of these ever made, and the
auction makes it most expensive Grand Prix car ever sold.

(04:37):
Breaks the previous record for another Mercedes W one nine
six by fifty one million dollars, so that's quite the hike.
Use the world of nineties. Speaking of frontails on investment,
you see gold over the weekend twenty eight, one hundred
and fifty dollars in difficult times, you always step back
to gold, don't you More? With Andrews shortly twelve past.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
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Speaker 2 (05:02):
Actually speaking of Shulton, Germany, their inflation rate came out
over the week in two point eight percent for January.
That's what they were expected. It's unchanged, and that's the
last key data point before he basically gets booted out
of office in a couple of Sundays, Time fifteen parts
second Money on JMI Wealth Monday morning, Andrew Kella, A
good morning morning, Mike. Right, tariffs, we've got enough detail

(05:25):
here to know what's going to happen or not.

Speaker 8 (05:27):
We can we can speculate. So we've had terrifaction over
the weekend and Trump, as he signaled, tariffs were on
the way from Mexico, Canada, China, and that threat has
been followed up on.

Speaker 9 (05:38):
So what's actually happening.

Speaker 8 (05:39):
Effective Tuesday, US time, the US will impose twenty five
percent levy on imports from Canada, Mexico, ten percent tariffs
on Chinese imports excluded from the twenty five percent tariff
on our energy products from Canada, they'll be taxed at
ten percent. Now, in case you're wondering how he's done this,
these tariffs have been imposed under the Emergency Economic Authority.

(06:02):
To the best of my knowledge that this has never
been used for tariffs before. Nixon used a precursor to
the current law back in nineteen seventy one. So there
are no car bouts, there are no exceptions to the tariff. Mike,
the duration of the tariffs is important. This will speak
to the extent of the economic disruption and the fallout.

Speaker 9 (06:23):
What we know so far is the tariffs.

Speaker 8 (06:25):
Will remain in place until the White House is satisfied
that illicit fentanyl trafficking into the US is under control
and or and we don't know the mix here, there
is a dramatic reduction in the migration and broader criminal
activity at the US borders and others.

Speaker 9 (06:39):
We've got no idea how long this is going to last.

Speaker 8 (06:42):
Importantly, there is a retaliation clause, so if, as has happened,
countries targeted respond.

Speaker 9 (06:49):
With their own tariffs, the US can escalate.

Speaker 8 (06:52):
So it's potentially these are the only the opening salvos.

Speaker 9 (06:55):
We don't know where we'll end. Mike Listeners out there.

Speaker 8 (06:59):
Need to appreciate in the first term Trump engaged in
a tariff war with China. This move over the weekend
dwarfs the extent of that first term action twenty twenty
three Trade with China four hundred and nineteen.

Speaker 9 (07:12):
Billion US dollars, trade with Mexico four hundred and seventy
five billion dollars.

Speaker 8 (07:16):
I can't verify these numbers at the moment, I've seen
them over the weekend, but you're talking one point three
to one point five one point six trillion dollars worth
of imports will be caught up in these new tariffs,
So major economic impact on the US as to the
cost of many sort of household items, the one you.

Speaker 9 (07:35):
Know, fruit and vegg meat, beer.

Speaker 8 (07:37):
Even so, Trump is willing to bet a huge economic
risk on this. He's referring to it as short term disruption.
There's a euphemism.

Speaker 9 (07:46):
It's hard.

Speaker 8 (07:46):
Well, it's hard not to see sharemarket weekness initially this week, Mike.
How much will depend on how much investors have actually
expected this, and of course the duration very negative for
certain industries. Automakers in particular those supplyingduction cycles heavily integrated
with the Canada and Mexico. You should see Canadian Mexican
currencies under pressure. Now there's a question of whether that

(08:09):
weekness flows through the New Zealand as well US inflation
that will increase. Again, duration of the dispute is important
for New Zealand. It's a reality check, isn't it, because
Trump is basically running roughshod over existing trade agreements that
he signed in the first And one thing you have
to think about as well, mate, though, if you get
import substitution, that could be positive for some exporters to

(08:32):
the US.

Speaker 9 (08:33):
So if you think about the.

Speaker 8 (08:34):
Meat, people could now choose New Zealand meat over meat.

Speaker 9 (08:38):
And we don't know, we don't know. But what we
do know, Mike is we now have.

Speaker 8 (08:42):
To apply And far as Trump is concerned, a chaos premium.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
To markets, and I think that's true. We're a bit downbeach.
We were a bit down beat. We are still a
bit downbeat. So those numbers weren't good. That consumer confidence
gone backwards.

Speaker 9 (08:55):
It has. This is consumer confidence led US update on Friday.

Speaker 8 (08:58):
This is the ains that consumer confidence had long confidence
fell four points to ninety six, consistent with other surveys
where we saw a bit of a This is a
bit of a reality check after a jumping confidence at
the close of twenty twenty four significant fall in the
proportion of households who think it is a good time
to buy a major household item. A and Z refer
to that metric as the best retail indicator inflation indicators

(09:21):
in the surveys.

Speaker 9 (09:22):
That a little change.

Speaker 8 (09:23):
Looking at the totality of responses, My clear definition continues
between the here and now and.

Speaker 9 (09:29):
The perception of future.

Speaker 8 (09:31):
So current conditions fell nine points, but for future conditions
that only eased one point. So yeah, we're just getting
a little bit less confident, Mike as the year has started.
So just a bit of a reality check that these
interest rates are going to take a little bit of.

Speaker 9 (09:44):
Time to feed through.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Numbers please.

Speaker 8 (09:47):
The Dow Jones on Friday fell three quarters percent, closed
at forty four five hundred and forty four. The S
and P five hundred and fell half percent six o
four oh. The Nasdaq fell zero point two eight percent,
closing nineteen th two hundred and sixty seven ft two
one hundred up per point three eight six seven three.

Speaker 9 (10:05):
The NICK was up.

Speaker 8 (10:06):
Point one five percent thirty nine thousand, five hundred and
seventy two. The Chinese market's still not trading. The a
SX two hundred gained point four five percent eight five
three to two, and the insects fifty gained half percent.
Twelve thousand, nine hundred ninety five now Kimi dollar point
five six one three. That'll obviously update when the market
starts opening against the US point nine oh four five

(10:27):
Ozzi point five four three to euro point four five
two six pounds eighty seven point one a gad against
Japanese Zen.

Speaker 9 (10:33):
Yes you're right.

Speaker 8 (10:34):
Mic gold Gold went up settled just under twenty one
hundred mark twenty seven nine eight and Brentkrud lower seventy
five dollars and sixty seven.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
M appreciate it. Andrew kelliher jmiwalth dot co dot n
z tosk x on reminding us fourth quarter This was
x on reminding us that we still need a bit
of oil and guess, despite what some will have you believe,
seven point three nine billion by way of profit, Apple
a services company these days. I mean they're still doing
business in the IPI China bad bad news. But they
earned Apple one hundred and twenty four billion max eight

(11:06):
billion iPads eight billion services twenty six billions, so it
tells you where it is. But the old iPhone still
sells well sixty nine billion dollars worth of iPhones six
twenty one Your Red News Talks vo.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
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Speaker 2 (11:28):
So some fun facts on the trade war. It's we've
been here before, of course, and this is the value
of institutional knowledge. So first of all, sixteen percent of
what America makes goes to Canada, is it a fair trade?
Not because seventy five percent of what Canada makes goes
to America. So the imbalance there is crucial. Last time
they did this, Canada came back. I note that Mark Canty,

(11:50):
by the way, who you may know the name. He
was the governor of the Bank of England. He's back
in Canada now looks like to be the hot favorite
to takeover from Trudeau's the head of the party. He
was talking very bullishly over the wind. Last time, they
targeted Florida Orange juice to get to Trump, and they
targeted Tennessee Bourbon to get to Mitch McConnell, who was
the majority leader at the time. That worked because they

(12:12):
talked their way out of it. In other words, they
know it was all hot and bluster, and it was
all on till it was off. And so I think
probably given this is really about the border and not
about trade, that's probably where ultimately it will end up.

Speaker 1 (12:24):
Six twenty five trending now with Chemist Wells keeping Kiwi's healthy.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
All year out.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
You know, for the NBA, what's happened overnight is the
biggest of big things. The Lakers, as in Los Angeles,
have traded Anthony Davis for the Dallas Mavericks Luka Doncic.
This is the first time that a first and second
team All NBA player that's top five, top ten have
been traded for each other. It's never happened before. Reaction
from Steven A. Smith and Brian Windhorst.

Speaker 10 (12:51):
I'm shocked. I'm shock, like most of not the entire
basketball world appears to be. It's not something that you
would have ever anticipated, primarily from the Dallas Maverige. Luka
Doncik is a global star. He's a global superstar in
this game. Nobody would have thought that you would think
to trade Luka Dancik. So there's a lot of speculation

(13:13):
as to.

Speaker 9 (13:13):
Why that may have happened.

Speaker 10 (13:15):
This move, I in the moment here believe is one
of the most stunning trades, one of the biggest and
most stunning trades in the history of the league.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Most degree the Lakers who won the trade because they've
gone for the future. MAVs have gone for the wind
now approach. So to put it in perspective, former MAVs
majority under Mark Cuban said he would sooner divorce his
wife than trade Dantag. Cuban sold out of the company.
As selling down part of his stake in the company,
he couldn't be the gym of basketball. The GM of

(13:46):
basketball makes all the decisions the most interesting. And I
won't bore you witless with the complexity of the trades
because there are three teams involved in multiple players and picks.
As far out as twenty twenty nine, it wasn't just
two guys swapping. But he is a really interesting part.
Neither Davis nor Doncic knew of the trade before it happened.
They had no clue. They wrang Lebron because Lebron's important

(14:10):
in LA and they said Lebron were doing this. He
didn't have a clue. He's out with dinner with his family.
But imagine being Davis or Dantice and you get a
call going, hey, guess where you're going and you go, ah,
I cool. So you are really nothing more or less
than a tradable commodity. Now, we got some people in
the country you might be interested in who might have
a lot of money to invest our way. So we'll

(14:31):
tell you more about that and later on the head
of the COVID inquiry phase two, as they opened the
porter looking for some more feedback. Today will do that
for you up to seven point thirty meantime users.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Next time, Mike Haskame will been fateful, engaging and idal
the Mike Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real Estate finding the buyers.
Others can't use Tom's dead b Mike.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
I thought Trudeau did Sinda, but I saw him on
the television yesterday, Sean he did. He's quit. They're in
the process at the moment of finding his replacement. That
goes until I think the end of this month. By March,
they need to wrap that up. I mentioned Mark Courney,
who's the former governor of the Bank of England. He
seems to be the front runner the election needs to
be held by October. So it is very similar to

(15:15):
just to see he's worked out. Trudeau's worked out that
he's toast, so hand it off to somebody else and
maybe give them a bit of run into the October election.
But we'll see how it goes. Twenty three minutes away
from seven more on the terror Pobbles of Richard Arnold
and Slave shortly meantime, our government's going to be thrilled
to know we've got some investment heavyweights in the country
of the monment, the far out common Boy. It brings

(15:36):
together leading founders and international investors for a road trip
from orkhand the Queenstown. So what are they seeing? What
are the opportunities? Are we any sort of magnet for
money these days? Venture capitalist and co founder of Shasta
Ventures Rob Cody bears with us. Rob morning to you, Hey,
good morning.

Speaker 11 (15:50):
How are you.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
I'm extremely well, you're an expert, I'm not. My sense
of it in the world at the moment is if
you've got a good idea, there's bucket loads of money
out there for it. Is that fair or not?

Speaker 12 (16:01):
No, I think that's exactly what it is. It's the
ideas and the talent and right now we are on
the rooftop of the car park next to Sky Stadium
in Wellington. We have about seventy people together, about close
to half of those are from Silicon Valley and other
tech networks outside of New Zealand, and we're waiting to
board the Inner Islander and head to the South Island

(16:22):
for the second set of legs of our convoy.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Do you know anything about the inter island to rub Well?

Speaker 12 (16:28):
Maybe we're not going to talk about that. It looks
like the Kakakis in the harbor right now, and it
looks like a day without a lot of swells, so
I'm optimistic things will go well.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Good the people you're with, did I know a lot
about New Zealand or not?

Speaker 12 (16:42):
Well, about half the people do, because we have some
of the leading entrepreneurs and investors and people in New Zealand.
And then we have about thirty five people that have
come from outside of New Zealand that are interested in
New Zealand, many of which haven't been in New Zealand,
but they're spending in the time in the cars each day.
There's no better way to get to know people better

(17:02):
than being in a car with them for about four hours.
As you drive around New Zealand and go on four
by four tracks.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Are they all sick to specific in other words of
tech or spice or whatever. It's just a whole lot
of them.

Speaker 12 (17:14):
Well, most of them are from tech, but we also
have somebody along. His nickname is ACP. He was in
the first expedition to drive a wheeled vehicle to both
the North and the South Poles. He just finished at
the South Pole. He joined us in Wellington last night
and at the same time. Most of the people are

(17:36):
from the tech industry, a bunch of tech veterans, people
that run venture funds and have founded multi billion dollar
companies in the States.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
What's the connection between driving somewhere and going, my word,
the west coast of the South Island's a beautiful part
of the world, and then reaching in your pocket and
handing out a few million dollars for some idea.

Speaker 12 (17:55):
Well, there's a piece in between, which is the talent.
It's the people that build these business and New Zealand,
believe it or not, has done a great job of
attracting foreign talent. You see it with rocket Lab, you
see it with Zero, you see it with a series
of things. The opportunity at this point is to bring
in people that help build businesses to work side by
side with Kiwis. There's a huge spillover effect. And what

(18:17):
we're finding is already after the first two days of
the convoys, some really deep bonds are being built. And
I think when we get to the mainland and we
get to the really remote places and we have car
loads of people, hopefully some magical happen.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
You're bullish on this country in general.

Speaker 12 (18:34):
Of course, of course there's a lot of opportunity. And
if you go back to Sir Paul Callahan and the
speech that he gave in the past, he said, the
country's done a great job with timber and agriculture and
real estate, but the way to move forward is high tech.
And at that time zero and rocket Lab hadn't emerged.
But now that those have e merged, people on the

(18:54):
world stage and text see that you can build great
startups here and that's how you grow the GDP per
capital and how you build the wealth of the country
so that we don't need to worry about whether we
can pay nurses and doctors what they're worth, pay for education,
pay for healthcare. If we grow the wealth of the
country and we grow the economy to the benefit of all.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Well said, and have a good trip. Preciret at. Rob Coneybeer,
co founder of Shasta Ventures in the country at the
moment nineteen minutes away from seven, should also explain, just briefly,
just to keep your breast, what's going on in Germany.
Feb twenty three's the snap election. Schulzon Co had gone
three party coalition fell apart. It was a disaster from
day one. But nevertheless, what happened last week and it
wasn't cover here at all. There was an idea put forward,

(19:37):
a proposition put forward into parliament and it was supported
and supported for the first time of the AfD and
the party that put it forward, which is the leading
party in the race in terms of polls at the moment,
kind of broke a rule. The general rule in Germany
is you don't deal with the AfD no matter what.

Speaker 10 (19:56):
Now.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
It was a non binding bit of work and ultimately
over the weekend voted on it. It didn't pass, but
for the first time the AfD and the leading party
in Germany have done business together. So there's well, depending
on what's your camp you run, there's a bit of shock,
an upset, or maybe it's the future of Germany, but
that elections not far away.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
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Speaker 2 (20:23):
Talksp I'll tell you what if you're looking for a
house at the moment, now is the time we've never
had or not for a very long time. Anyway, more
houses for sale in this country or country through a
couple of numbers in the moment when we get a
sex SX forty.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Five international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand business Richina morning.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
So twenty five percent for them, ten percent for somebody else.
Tariffs Here we go.

Speaker 13 (20:47):
It's any money, right, Yep. There is swift retaliation from
this country's major trading partners to the Trump order for
tariffs on Canada, Mexico, and China. Those tariffs are to
take effect from Wednesday, your time with as you say,
twenty five percent tarify on US neighbors Canada and Mexico,
except for Canadian energy products, where the tariff is said
are ten percent. Same for China. Trump says the reason

(21:10):
for the move is to stop the flow of fentanyl
and to tighten borders. So why Canada. Most of the
fentanyl comes from China, which is facing a lesser tariff
and has virtually no border issues Canada, So what's the
deal there? Trump says there might be some price spikes
for people in this country.

Speaker 5 (21:30):
There could be some temporary, short term disruption, and people
will understand that.

Speaker 13 (21:35):
People will understand prices spiraling.

Speaker 14 (21:39):
Well.

Speaker 13 (21:39):
One third of US imports come from these three countries.
Their products include vegetables, fruit, meat, oil, cars, car parts, electronics, toys,
clothing would be its spirits. Some suggest that car prices,
already at record high as could increase by more than
ten thousand dollars a vehicle. Petrol prices already went up yesterday.

(22:00):
In fact, some sixty percent of oil imported to the
US comes from Canada. People already have been complaining about
the price of eggs, which have risen to record levels
because of bird flu. I just saw a funny little
meme for I guess Valentine's Day coming up, and it
has a guy leaning down on a beach with a

(22:20):
cart of eggs saying, impressed it with something expensive? Yeah, anyway,
A loving trade war with Colombia was adverted as you know,
only a few hours into the thing last week when
Trump put tarists on that country for burrying a couple
of military planes carrying some Colombians who were deported Columbian's
buckle Canada, Mexico and China, they were saying they will
retaliate in force. You've been talking about Trudeau, Well, the

(22:42):
Canadian Prime minister delivered this direct response to Americans. He's
part of what he had to say.

Speaker 15 (22:48):
This is a choice that yes, will harm Canadians, but
beyond that, it will have real consequences for you. It
will raise costs for you putting food at the grocery store,
gas at the pump. They will impede your access to
an affordable supply of by all goods crucial.

Speaker 11 (23:09):
For US security.

Speaker 13 (23:11):
Talking about minerals and so on. There are US small
business rep says of this, I.

Speaker 16 (23:15):
Think people are going to be truly shocked at the
pricing they're going to see. I'm the cars, I'm a
lumber on the clothes, I'm the food. This is going
to be a mess.

Speaker 13 (23:25):
Canada already has proposed retaliatory tariffs on a number of
US goods, targeting especially Republican run US states.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
It may mean opting for Canadian rye over Kentucky bourbon,
foregoing Florida orange juice altogether.

Speaker 13 (23:40):
So it's not clear who wins in any prolonged trade war. Initially,
those who benefit are what government gets more import duties.
There might be a spur for big business to stick
within US borders over a longer term. That's not a
simple thing. The banks are getting super wealthy. Credit card
interest rates here are twenty plus percent right now. I

(24:00):
haven't moved much in recent months. Regular folks have been
paying these exorbitant interest rates to try to tame inflation,
so on the backs of working folks.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
But those interest rates still.

Speaker 13 (24:09):
Are stratisferic, and tariffs could lead to a new jump
in inflation. Something saying, so, is this what was promised
in the last elections? Inflation spiking credit card rates off
the charts, and the prices of everything from tomatoes to
houses and cars beyond reach.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
It's going to be interesting. So Guantanamo Bay, how are
they going to make that work? Can they make it work?

Speaker 14 (24:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
It's a good question, isn't it.

Speaker 13 (24:31):
You know, difficult to know when the things that the
new president says are just talk and when you know
they going to act on these things or try to
actually do something. One of those is the Shoppi signed
memo that the President just gave instructing the Pentagon and
Homeland Security to prepare thirty thousand beds at Guantanamo Bay
on the tip of Cuba to house deported immigrants. You know,

(24:52):
I'd be the Gitmo as a reporter, mind you, not
for any other reason. The main detention site there is
a super max prison at the height of its u.
They had eight hundred a qued terrorists in there. There
are fifteen left, including Karli shap Muhammad, a key plotter
of the September eleventh attacks. You know, one, I have
seen these cells. There are no windows in the building
at GITMO has some beautiful rainforests around actually, and there

(25:15):
are tons of unexploded devices. However, in the harbor and
the round about. Since Gitmo was open for this purpose,
it has cost around nine billion dollars US. So are
there beds for thirty thousand people?

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Not that I saw.

Speaker 13 (25:29):
There are some military barracks and there's the courthouse on
the hill. So the US would pay to fly thirty
thousand people to Gittmo, then pay for housing and food
for how long a week? The year twenty four years,
it's been the new Homeland Security chief, Christine Nome, the
one who shot and killed her own dog because it
was trouble, says there would also be legal avenues open

(25:51):
to detainees.

Speaker 17 (25:53):
New process will be followed, and having facilities at Guantanamo
Bay will be an asset to us, and the fact
that we have the capacity to continue to do there
what we've always done. We've always had a presence of
illegal immigrants there that have been detained. We're just building
out some capacity.

Speaker 13 (26:10):
Just building a few more huts. Are Republican lawmakers who've
gone along with most everything Trump has brought forward, going
to sign the blank check for that. It would seem
there are one or two.

Speaker 2 (26:20):
Hurdles we will see Wednesday. Appreciate it very much. By
the way, my favorite Trump story over the weekend is
he talks so much they're going to have to hire
some more stenographers. They can't keep up with an inauguration
day twenty two thousand woods, and then when he went
to North Carolina, California last weekend, there were another seventeen
thousand woods. So they've got burnout already. Night away from seven.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
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Speaker 2 (26:43):
He'd be it just quick starts out this morning on
houses highest in a decade. Number of houses for sale
thirty twenty four hundred and twelve, five thousand more than
this time last year. Hasn't been this high since Januar fifteen.
Auckland are a lot of houses eleven thousand, four hundred
and sixty five. It's the HIGHSNS twenty twelve, so a
long time away days on the market higher or slower

(27:03):
to sell. Number of secondary homes places like Corimental Parnui.
People who owned secondary homes of course go oh that
was a fine some of it. Let's get rid of it.
So you look at Paranui at the moment peak of
the market, there was only ten or fifteen. You couldn't
get one for love nor money. But at the moment
the sixty five, for example in Powaanui, the price isn't
moving though, eight sixty eight thousand on average around the
country there is still the price they're asking. They're still

(27:25):
suggesting this morning that those interest rates to come down,
Adrians and play this month. Most people, I think I
think it's fifty points. That then affects the mortgage market.
When it affects the mortgage market, people go, I'll have
a bit of that. Action also goes the theory five
away from seven. No, okay, the old jobs market. I'm

(27:48):
going to get a spotlight this week Wednesday, we're standing
by for the numbers. Full picture of the twenty twenty
four calendar year. September twenty four quarter showed the were
one hundred and forty eight thousand unemployed annu'll increase of
about twenty nine one thousand, pretty much. Everyone's picking the
Wednesday number to be about thirty thirty thousand. Other words,
we've lost thirty thousand jobs in total A and Z,
so that would put the unemployment rate at five point one,

(28:09):
which would be an increase from four point eight, which
is in line with the Reserve Bank Westpac little more bullish.
They think it's only going to be five. Predictions overall
trended down a bit if you follow this sort of thing,
because unemployment has not risen at the pace i'm expected.
Worst I read was like late last year, one bank
was suggesting it could goes high this year. A six
percent doesn't look like it will broad consensus. We think

(28:32):
it'll peak around fire point five. So even if it
comes in at fire five point one on Wednesday, you've
still got more pain to come this year before it's
peaked out. Having said all of that, asb tellers, correctly
picking labor markets outturns often requires some luck. So in
other words, your guess is as good as mine, right,
Charles Funny, he's been negotiating trade for eons and he's

(28:53):
back with us to get us an insight into what
all this means for us specifically the world in general
as far as trade tariffs are concerned. The we's up
and part of the you know, the traffic light thing
they got on employment. Speaking of jobs and stuff, they've
got a couple of new ideas to implement. Tell whether
or not they'll work because they've got a couple. I mean,
this hospi thing I started talking about last week and

(29:14):
I had another example of it day over the weekend.
I'll tell you about that later, but it's all very
well for hospit and retail going, Oh, we can't find anybody.
I mean, it just there's something weird going on. There's
got one hundred and I just told you one hundred
and forty eight thousand people unemployed, and yet you've got
people going, oh, we need to loosen the visa so
we get more people into the country to come and
make me a flat white. Doesn't make sense anyway. More

(29:35):
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Speaker 1 (29:38):
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Speaker 2 (29:49):
Head been seven to past seven. Busy weekend for the
new US president. Plenty of commentary on the plane crash.
Of course, we had an icist project in Somalia in
the tariffs are underway for Mexico, Canada and China, with
more to come form Negot. He had a Charles finneedback
with us good morning, Good morning, Mike. We've been here before?
Or is this different?

Speaker 18 (30:07):
I think this is different. I think it is more
extreme than what we saw during the first term of
the Trump presidency. He has carried through on his threats
and it seems as though Canada and Mexico are facing
very comprehensive tariffs and China ten percent as well. So

(30:27):
this is at the extreme end of what people were
talking about.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
In Canada and Mexico. Is it about the border or
is it about trade?

Speaker 18 (30:36):
Well, when I went to sleep last night, it seemed
to be about fentanyl in the border, But overnight there's
been lots of tweeting and it seems more fundamental. Indeed,
President Trump is talking about Canada's viability now these twenty
five percent tariffs have been proposed, and is continuing his
argument that they should become the fifty first state. So

(30:58):
he's undercutting his league or basis for justification for these
for these tariffs, and it's very worrying indeed, that he's
talking in these terms.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Last time Canada came back and targeted orange juice out
of Florida, Tennessee whiskey because of Mitch McConnell, all of
that stuff, it got talked down eventually. Is that how
this will ultimately and do you think we'll not.

Speaker 18 (31:19):
Well, I would hope that would be the case, and
that there'll be a series of exemptions negotiated, mainly because
of the interests of US manufacturers and some importance who've
got power. But this just feels a little bit different.
So too early to tell. I think we're going to

(31:40):
see multiple legal challenges domestically in the United States, but
they'll be NAFTA or I mean US MCA, the TRAID
agreement we've involving Canada, US and Mexico. There'll be panels
formed WT complaints, but so they could be injunctions domestically
in the United States because this is really hard to

(32:01):
justify in terms of US trade will but he does
seem to want to proceed, and I'm not sure that
the Senate and Congress have got the mojo there to
challenge him.

Speaker 2 (32:15):
Where do we fit in irony being on Friday, it's
announce that suddenly the ore the second biggest trading partner
we've got beating out Australia. Now we don't even have
a deal.

Speaker 18 (32:24):
Well, luckily tariffs into the United States for US low.

Speaker 19 (32:30):
There's been no talk of.

Speaker 18 (32:33):
Tariff's being composed on New Zealand per se. There is
still talk about a global tariff, but that would be
very problematic in the US law. I don't think it
can be implemented by executive order. That's something that has
to go through legislature. The brisk for US in the

(32:55):
short term is that there's going to be a whole
lot of trade loads. Just what he's imposed. They'll be
Canadian and Mexico product looking for new homes, and they'll
be Chinese product looking for new homes, and there'll be
some opportunities there as well.

Speaker 11 (33:11):
There'll be perhaps.

Speaker 18 (33:13):
Chinese retaliation on the United States and maybe some new
market opportunities there, but the United States may not like
people take advantage of those opportunities. So it's going to
be disruptives and we're going to see exchange drape impacts
as well, and probably equity market impact. So no New
Zealander is going to be immune.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Fulness always appreciate the insight. Charles Finny, former trade negotiator,
eleven past seven see a more sanctions coming for the unemployed.
As part of this traffic light scheme, we've got a
job search report that's been added. This is a minimum
of three search activities a week in reporting back to WEMSD.
They've also added an upskilling course for a mandatory five
hours per week. Louise Upston is of course, Minister for

(33:54):
Social Development and is with us. Very good morning to you,
Good morning mikeel. What's a search activity?

Speaker 16 (34:02):
So basically what we're wanting to is improve people's chances
of getting a job so basically what the search activity
is is being more proactive in terms of spending time
either registering with a recruitment agency, going to interviews, actually
proving to MSD that they have been seriously engaging in

(34:25):
jobs seeking activities. So it's also about accountability, right.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
So it's more than just clicking on an aid on
trade me No.

Speaker 12 (34:33):
Definitely not no.

Speaker 16 (34:34):
And again the end of the day, we want more
people off welfare into work, So instead of a financial sanction,
we are going to provide more of an accountability mechanism,
more support, more eyes on to make sure that people
are doing the things they need to do to improve
their chances of finding a job.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
The upskilling course upskilling to what do you get choice
in that or no.

Speaker 16 (35:00):
So it'll be deliberately focused on what is appropriate for
that job seeker. So it might be that they need
to do a digital passport, which is a course that
MSDS developed online that really just provides better opportunities for
people to be able to demonstrate they can work in
a digital environment. It might be something else that MSD

(35:24):
has on its box in terms of interview skills. There's
a suite of options. But again this is because we
want to see fewer people on the job seeker benefit
more people in work, but it's also holding people accountable.
If I look at the sanctions for the December quarter,
three thousand, three hundred were failing to prepare for work,

(35:48):
so we know that's a problem. These additional non financial
sanctions mechanisms to say, actually, you can't sit there and
do nothing. You have to prepare for work, and we're
going to make it easier for you to do that.
Rather than just financially penalize you, we're going to give
you options to upskill or demonstrate what you are doing

(36:13):
around your job.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Searching, just quickly from your time in this job, what's
your assessment of the slackness? How many people who just
can't be bothered are you dealing with as a percentage
of all of those who are unemployed.

Speaker 16 (36:24):
Well, if I look at the traffic light system, we've
only got one percent in orange and one percent in red.
So actually I think the numbers are low, but look
at the end of the day, MSD is there to
support people get to get into work, but job seekers
have to do their bit. And what's been really positive
is frontline staff are saying they're doing less chasing good

(36:49):
and people are actually ringing up to say what do
I have to do? I don't want to fail an obligation.
What do I need to do next? But that's a
really positive step and I think that's why we'll It
has contributed to much higher numbers of people leaving the
job seekret benefit into jobs now. Work exits much higher
than they were a year ago. So it tells me

(37:11):
it's working. But we've still got more work today.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Good to hear Louis Upston, Employment Minister, among other things,
fourteen past seven task gag.

Speaker 9 (37:18):
We've got rickets.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
I mean, can you believe it? We didn't think we
had rickets anymore, but we do. We've got rickets. Do
you know how you get rickets, especially in kids? You
know how you get rickets? Lack of calcium and lack
of sunshine and you know why at least, but do
we have both in this country? Got plenty of both.
Do we know why we have lack of sunshine? Well,
because we've demonized the sun. The most important thing. The
easiest way to get vitamin D is to get out

(37:41):
into the sun without sunscreen. But of course that's a
no no. And because it's a no, no, we protect kids.
We keep them inside in the shade, never to see
the sun. And the next thing you know, we've got
third world diseases like Rickets fifteen past seven, the.

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Speaker 2 (37:59):
Said Princell Ricketts, by the way, is just reading about
it over the weekend. We've suddenly got from nowhere twenty
cases in just four months, so there's a lot of
people in the medical profession a bit worried about it.
I've got a very big deal, by the way, it's
eighteen past seven, very big deal for Australian sport. The
NFL will host multiple in season games at the MCGS
of next year, the Rams and the Philadelphia Eagles. Philadelphia

(38:19):
Eagles going to the Super Bowl of course this month.
Are they going to open the account in October? Australian
sports journalis Jim Dolan is back with this Gym morning
to you. Good ay, Mike, what's your assessment of how
I mean, a lot of sport goes on in Australia,
a lot of big events. Is this a big deal?

Speaker 20 (38:33):
This is a very big deal. The NFL, particularly this week,
is very popular throughout the World and Australia too. Alles
on the Super Bowl thistball next Monday. But this game
with Jordan Malata particularly, he's tipped to come with the
Philadelphia Eagles. He's a young kid who is in the
South Sydney Rugby League program, decided to have a crack
at America and now he's become a superstar. And I

(38:57):
imagine he's already had a few phone calls for tickets
for next week game and probably getting a few text
messages from his friends and family too saying hey what
about Melbourne? Can we get down the MCG to see live?
So he's going to be very popular. He'll probably be
the face of this if the Eagles are indeed the
team that comes, and they are interestingly one of two
teams that have global marketing rights in Australia, the Los

(39:21):
Angeles Rams the other. So yeah, the interest is pretty
high because a lot of people take interest in the
NFL now and a chance to see an in season
game very very big.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
And if you look at where they played in Germany
and in England, they've been in England for ages. They
just sell out every game every year, aren't they.

Speaker 20 (39:39):
Yeah, they're going to play eight in season matches internationally,
including the home of Real Madrid now so this season,
so that's going to get a lot of people interested there.
We have had NFL here before. When the Broncos played
the Chargers to open the Sydney Olympic Stadium in nineteen
ninety nine, I got caught up in that circus and
four seven forty sevens it takes to bring the team

(40:00):
and their hangers on. The coaches have a little tower
that gets pushed around training so they watch where they go.
The quarterback has a blow too toes a big tub
of gatorade. He's never more than a hands distance away,
so they could have a drink before he throws the
next ball. And when they had they put on the
best of the best, all the food for all the Americans.

(40:20):
And I remember two very large gentlemen came over to
me and said that the barrel mundy, the prawns, the
Morton Bay bugs weren't they're liking. This is why all
the people in Australia were so skinny because of the
food they ate. Could I take them to somewhere where
they could get a decent hot dog so they might
learn a little bit. But one thing's for sure, Mike.

(40:40):
When they do play, it'll be just like every other
State of Origin and Bledislow Cap matches played in Melbourne.
The first time somebody's tackle of the entire crowd will
yell ball and then giggle themselves silly as they do
after the.

Speaker 2 (40:55):
Apaing to be fantastic, Good on your gym. Nice to
catch up Jim Dolan out of Australia this morning. So
that's as of next year. If you follow the NFL,
it's come so much closer. Seven to twenty one.

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twenty four. I've stayed out of the school lunch debate
as best I can so far, because I'm keen this
year not to dabble as so many others are in

(42:18):
myopic triviality. I mean, this country is in a world
of pain, with a gargantuine pile of major issues that
need focusing on and addressing, and yet too many fine
fun and frippery name calling lunch arrivals, all that things
that aren't going to pay off the debt, or grow
the economy, or find people work or drag this island
nation out of its fiscal quagmire. But for about the
third day in a row, I watch yet another principal

(42:39):
wine about either the arrival time of kids lunches or
the quality or and this was a new one, the
kid's inability to quote access the food. What I assume
he meant by that was the kids were having trouble
ripping the lids off the spag bowl container. If that
is true, If you honestly can't work out how to
pierce cellophane or a foil lid, then life is going

(43:01):
to be really hard for you. And my guess is
it's a good insight into why too many fail level
one NCEEA. And that's before we get to their so
called leaders, the principles, who seem to have no end
of time available to them to be interviewed by a
media desperate for clickbait and misery and tell them how
they were late. It didn't look good, it was too small,
the lids wouldn't come off. Here's a lesson in life.

(43:21):
If you want to find a winger there around every corner,
and it is them that hold people, businesses, and countries back.
Another lesson, as the media can't seem to understand this
that finding a moana isn't news, and that is why
for so many of them, their audiences are shrinking and
their job prospects of vanishing on time delivery. Yes, fair enough,
a deal is a deal. We're paying for the deal.

(43:42):
Get it together. As for the rest, put a sock
in it. Stop moaning. If lunch is really that repulsive
and the lids really are that complicated, try hunger, or
try finding a parent. If you insist on moaning, moan
about the parents who aren't doing their job, we have
become a villain of victims. Enough already asking phase two

(44:04):
of the COVID inquiry. Grant Illingworth is heading that one insight,
by the way, a very good letter on the school lunches.
This is a teacher who wrote to me who's at
the school where David Seymour was last week and this
teacher watched them film the story and what they saw
being filmed and what turned up on the news two
completely different things. But I'll give you the give you

(44:26):
the full detail on that. Another thing out this morning
from the Royal Society Journal. The Royal Society Journal, you
need to page read, but they've got to report out
on zero for this country by twenty fifty and exactly
what it's going to cost us and what we're going
to need to build. And I'm not sure that when
we talk about windmills and solar panels and Tesla batteries

(44:48):
we have a true understanding of what's actually going to
be required. And once you understand what's actually going to
be required, how in all like Lyopard unfortunately for all
the climate lobbies, it's not real. So anyway, we'll do
all of the in the next half hour of the program. Meantime,
use this next news doorgs V.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
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Speaker 2 (45:19):
Here's what the Royal Society Journal, which is out today.
You've got to pay for it if you want to
read it, but I'm going to do it for you,
so save yourself the time. So new power plants must
be built. We know all this, of course in this country,
because we don't have enough power at the present point
in time to heat a country on a cold winter's morning.
We've got a liven gas and three coal plants. At
the moment around a quarter of our total current generation

(45:40):
capacity as as so we need to replace that as
well as meat growing demand. Now the current level of
electricity demand can almost be removed from the power system
with you're ready, What do we need? We need seven
new power plants, six of them hydro, one of them wind.
So if we do that now, some of that's underway.
Expected demand level in twenty thirty five zero carbon can

(46:04):
be achieved with twenty one new power plants. Just the
twenty one, ten of them hydro, seven of them win,
three geothermal, one solar. So crack on with that, because
it's only ten years to go by twenty fifty. Adding
new power plants alone cannot guarantee the smooth operation of
the power system at reasonable electricity prices. The other measures required,

(46:27):
transmission line expansion, installing energy storage facilities also required additional
capital investment of around twenty billion dollars. So no worries then,
a twenty two minutes away from it. It's not just
a little bit of history. Rede Jason Pine and Andrew Stable.

(46:48):
Here's my problem with the sport. Just before I go
any per so, I had the Auckland football on in
the background. Because I'm not a big football fan, but
I am fascinated with AUCKLANDFC because of their success. Is
it unreasonable of me to suggest that a couple of
goals it was one all forever until it was two
one in the end. I mean for nineteen minutes it's

(47:09):
just up and down back and Ford ho. I mean,
really is football?

Speaker 3 (47:15):
I feel like this music is so appropriate.

Speaker 2 (47:18):
I thought it was going to be appropriate to oudend
You've said this. It's every time I wants I want
it to be more exciting than it is, but it isn't,
and it just isn't. Anyway, we'll come back to that
later on. Anyway, where was I We got submission. We've
got a submissions portal and an awareness campaign being launched

(47:38):
to those part of Phase two of our COVID inquiry.
So this part looks into the vaccines of course, lockdown's testing,
tracing and rats all that sort of stuff. Anyway, the
cheer of this particular part of the COVID inquiry is
Grant Illingworth k C, who's with us.

Speaker 11 (47:49):
Very good morning, Yes, good morning mate.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
And so you open a portal and you say give
me your feelings. Are you braced for the fury.

Speaker 21 (47:57):
Well, yes, we're braced for the few. We are expecting
a lot of people to respond, but we really want
that to happen. This is a really important issue. We
want to get things right for the future, and we've
been given some sharp questions to answer, so we need help.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
Does opinion carry weight? So just because I didn't like
the mandate, does that count for anything or not?

Speaker 21 (48:24):
It can If you give reasons as to why you
didn't like it, then those reasons will be important to
us to consider, and they can constitute a line of
inquiry that we might need to follow in.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
So is this a democratic exercise in the sense that
if I say I don't like the mandate because they
made me get jabbed, and if I didn't get jabbed,
I lost my job. If enough people say that, does
that sway your eventual report? Or do you take something
from the medical fraternity you go, Yep, a lot of
people didn't like it, but that's why we did what
we did.

Speaker 11 (48:55):
The latter.

Speaker 21 (48:57):
It's not a matter of being swayed by public opinion.
And the answer is we are required to approach this
whole task of answering the questions that we've been given.
We're required to do it impartially, independently and using a
fair process. So we've got to weigh up the evidence.
It's going to be evidence based and that's exactly what

(49:19):
we plan to do.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Are you constrained in any way as far as you're
concerned in terms of terms of reference?

Speaker 21 (49:25):
Yes, The terms of reference are very precise. So we're
reviewing key decisions that were made by government from the
period of February twenty twenty one to October twenty twenty two,
and those decisions are further narrowed by topics. So the
topics are lockdowns, vaccines, and procurement issues, and they are

(49:51):
specifically spelled out to our terms of reference.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
Ultimately, will you do you think be prescriptive in what
you say in the report? In other words, a lot
of people said that in lockdowns, we think this should
happen going forward, we.

Speaker 21 (50:06):
Will try to identify lessons for the future. It's not
a matter of saying you must do this, obviously. The
whole purpose of this inquiry is to facilitate good decision making,
and you can't make a decision in circumstances of uncertainty

(50:26):
and urgency and complexity without putting your brain into gear.
It's what you take into account when you're making those decisions.
What you should balance, what you should trade off one
from one thing to another. Those are the issues that
we'll be.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Looking at when they rang you. Did you go into
this eyes wide open with the belief that potentially it
could just be another door stop once you've written your
report or you hand on heart, think you can make
a difference.

Speaker 21 (50:57):
I think we can make a difference. These issues are
not simple and straightforward. And the more you look into
the questions that we've been asked to consider, the more
complexity you see. And there needs to be a big
change in the way we deal with emergencies, particularly public

(51:19):
health emergencies. To be better prepared than we were last
time round is pretty obvious. I think to everyone that
we weren't well prepared. We didn't have all our ducks
in a row, and we need to do that next time,
all right.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Grant go well in Grant Illingworth kc out of the
Carbon Inquiry seventeen away from eight. When I'm talking about
terms of reference, the things they're not looking at. And
this is how court procedures in parliament processes were adapted
during the pandemic, the conduct of the general election during
the pandemic. I probably agree with that, But then the
decisions made by the Reserve Bank's Independent Monetary Policy Committee,

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I would argue that was a critical and still effect
of piece of not effective in a positive way, but
affect a piece of policy that still to this day
affects our lives in a Philly dramatic way. So why
they're not looking at that, I've got no idea, Mike
reafootball it is the beautiful game. Just accept it. Fair enough, Mike,
I agree with what you say about the football, Yet
your sports newsreader leads the news with English football results.

(52:16):
Who cares? It's crap? I disagree with you, Paul. Even
though you and I might not be interested in the EPL,
the EPL is globally massive and you can't ignore that now.
I mean, I'm not coming in on there now. I
have Blake scored three goals just by himself. That alone
is probably the best story of the weekend locally. I mean,
what Chris would If you ever want an example of
winning leads to winning, Chris would is it. It's absolutely fantastic.

(52:40):
The other example is Sean Murphy and You'll go. Who's
Sean Murphy sixteen to two.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
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Speaker 2 (52:50):
It'd be right letter from a teacher South Auckland School,
David Seamoll visited last week. Quite the contrast between what
the media chose to report versus the student's actual comments
to him and the cameras. So the student's feedback on
the new lunch has been moderate. Few love them if
you hate them. A group of students spoke to the
minister during the visit. They made balanced comments, explaining that

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there had been an improvement in the taste worth this
year's lunches, but the presentation was lackluster. Their tone overall appreciative.
On the six o'clock news, TV and zaid that evening
footage from Seymour's visit, including footage of the students eating
the lunches. However, none of their comments were broadcast, and
said there was only one a voiceover which focused exclusively
on the negative aspects of the story, and then a

(53:31):
video clip at the principle of another school who was
reinforcing that narrative. Understandably, the students were surprised. The next
day to find out that the national news channel had
come all the way to their school for the film,
then opted not to wear a single one of their comments.
One could be forgiven for inferring that TV and Z
excluded their voices because they did not fit its overly
negative narrative on the government's policy. That in a small

(53:52):
amount of defense to TV and Z or any body
filming the story, a lot of stuff gets film that
never sees the light of day. You cove yourself. But
in this case, there is no doubt in my mind
that there are those in the media that all it
does is go and reinforce in a lot of people's minds.
What's wrong with the media is they are determined to
make a negative story, and they are determined to find

(54:13):
whiners and monas and wines, and they set out to
do it and unless you say the right thing, they're
not interested in you. By the way, I discovered purely
by accident on Friday, and what a thrill it was.
Fire Raid, which was a massive concert in Los Angeles
at a couple of stadia at the same time, rotating
back and forward to raise money for the fire. If
you want to see it's on YouTube. NBC broadcast it

(54:35):
in America. I think I watched it on Apple or
Disney or somewhere like that. But the advantage, if there
is one, and I'm not being facetious, the advantage of
Los Angeles burning down is most of the locals can sing,
so therefore they turn up for a concert, and they did.
My God, Rod Stewart, John Mayer, Billie Eilish, Katie Perry,
Red Hot Chili's Gwenster finally got together with an original band, Sting, Earthwind, Fire,

(54:59):
Abrams was there, Lady Gaga, Joni Mitchell, The Black Crows,
Stevie Nicks. If you ever want to see what a
lot of medication and the furious activity can do to
you in later life, look at Stevie Nicks. Absolutely or
was it Christy mcvah, I can't remember. It was one
of the two absolutely off their heads. She was seen,
she said, got all the words right in the song,

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but as the stage rotated her off, she was heard
to utter the words, I am moving, But I don't
know why. Green Day were there, Pink was there. So
if you like your music, Grammy Day today, of course,
but if you like your music, that really was a sensational.

Speaker 22 (55:37):
I feel like that does happens as you get probably does.

Speaker 7 (55:40):
Look, I start to understand this unless why things are.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Happening, I'll be sitting here in ten years time saying
weird shit like that. So whoops, I'll be saying weird stuff,
weird stuff. Here we go, there it is, it's already begun.
Mine away from seven.

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Speaker 2 (55:58):
Said the seven away from eight a bit of Engston
Palmerston as the council wants. That's extension on sugary drinks
band at sports grounds. So we got eight more venues targeted, apparently,
including the Trust Arena which is the home of the Turbot,
as well as the speedway. Bruce Robinson is a promoter
of the National Superstock Speedway and is will this Bruce,
very good morning.

Speaker 19 (56:15):
To you, good morning, like good morning.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Do you face these things anywhere else around the country?
Do you know in terms of speedway and events and
what you get to do and don't do and can
and can't sell.

Speaker 19 (56:25):
Well, I guess that's a trend that's starting to evolve
in New Zealand at the moment. The councils are wanting
to and certain people I guess are wanting to control
what people eat and drink and that sort of thing.
So I guess it's a sign of the times, although
here there's some fairly strong opposition to it, I believe.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
Yeah, would it affect you on a night out in
terms of revenue or your slice of the revenue or
anything like that, Well.

Speaker 19 (56:53):
I guess people like to be able to make their
own decision as to what they want to drink and
what they want to eat. And yes, sugar is and
lots of things these days. It's even in an orange juice.
And I guess tomato sauce as well. Look, there's sugar
and tomato sauce, so you might be able to have
sauce on your chips or your hot dogs.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
There's a lot of tomato. There's a lot of sugar
and tomato sauce. I could bore you witness with my
knowledge of the amount of sugar and tomato sauce. But
the other thing is booze. Of course, booze is full
of sugar exactly.

Speaker 19 (57:22):
But then who's going to accept that as a restriction.

Speaker 2 (57:28):
So you've just got to put up with it, right,
So if you want to hire a ground and the
council owns the ground, and they say, at this particular ground, this, this,
and this happen, you just got to suck it up.

Speaker 19 (57:40):
You've got it.

Speaker 23 (57:41):
Yes, I think an actual fact in parers to North here.
I believe that they are only selling We don't do
the catering side of it. The council handles that it's
a council facility, and I believe they've only been selling
diet coke and diet sprite in the last couple of years.
But now they're wanting to extend it further by the

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sounds of things, and over a lot of other venues,
and people aren't.

Speaker 19 (58:06):
Happy about it. There's the feedback I'm getting. There's a
lot of resistance to hey, this is a nanny state.
What are we trying to do here? There would be
nanny city parmister North.

Speaker 2 (58:18):
City Pubs, Bruce appreciated Bruce Robertson speedway promoter Grant Smith,
who's the mayor. Methinks is a bit of overreach as well.
Number If you texted me last week and said, oh, Mike,
look out for the Herald article over the weekend about
the Western Springs decision. This is Auckland now, and I
got to the story yesterday and I won't go into
it if you've missed it. I don't think it's a story.

(58:39):
There's a suggestion of some of the letters or a
letter that went in front of one of the council
committees in the decision to move Western Springs or the
Speedway away from Western Springs was tampered with. It wasn't
representative of the person who wrote it. If you read
the detail, it's probably not acceptable. Somebody's gone or looking
to get the series brought office involved. I think it's

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a beat up. It's not acceptable what happened to the letter.
But what the story does make clear is that decision
by the council to move speedway away from Western Springs
wasn't contingent on those letters or any letters. My my
reading is they'd made up their mind and you could
have got mar Ma Gandhi to write them a letter
and it wouldn't have changed anything. Used for you in

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Speaker 24 (59:43):
Sa another like goal another one less.

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Speaker 3 (59:58):
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Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
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Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Years seven past eight andrews Hevil whether Sam, good morning
to your happy new year, lovely to catch up with you.
Don't give me a hard time about not being on
the Monday because it was all conniversally day. I watched
the news last week. You weren't one so there?

Speaker 25 (01:00:29):
And now am I too predictable? And I had all
my lines worked out? And throw them out?

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
Now I've been around too long.

Speaker 11 (01:00:36):
Fat, You're you're.

Speaker 25 (01:00:38):
You're away for so long you turned into an old man.
You turned fifteen exactly. And it is it just me?

Speaker 14 (01:00:44):
Or are you?

Speaker 25 (01:00:45):
Are you whining more this year?

Speaker 11 (01:00:47):
A little bit more?

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
A well, the dementia said, And I can't remember whether
I'm whining or not. I'm just in my own.

Speaker 25 (01:00:53):
Bub It must find yourself yelling at shadows when you go.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
I do all of that. I've yelled at shadows for years.
Jason Pines will so with It's Jason morning to you.

Speaker 13 (01:01:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:01:02):
I feel a but awkward being here guys.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
But no, no, not at all. See, I've got some
weird stuff to talk about this morning that sort of
came to my attention over the holidays. But before I
do that, pinally, I'll just do excuse my ignorance. But
I did have the football on yesterday on Saturday. Were
you still commentating the Auckland game or not?

Speaker 25 (01:01:22):
Yes, I was right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
Was it hot?

Speaker 14 (01:01:25):
It was hot? It was very hot.

Speaker 26 (01:01:26):
Yeah, and that was just watching very humid twenty seven
to twenty eight degrees, beautiful day for watching football.

Speaker 14 (01:01:32):
Well, yeah, it was hot.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
Here's my criticism, because you love football and I get this,
and I was saying it on the program earlier on.
I could not be more excited about Auckland. F See
what they've done, how they're doing it, their launch promotion,
the fans support, the whole thing's brilliant. And yet I
was watching that thing back and forth. It's just one
all one or one or oh whoop's late goal to one?
Is it really exciting? Is it high quality football?

Speaker 21 (01:01:57):
Well?

Speaker 26 (01:01:57):
I think if you put it on a global scale,
I mean, you'll get much better quality football in the
Premier League. But I think what it does do is
it engages people who.

Speaker 14 (01:02:06):
Come along to it.

Speaker 26 (01:02:06):
And the excitement isn't just on the grass, it's what
happens around the pitch as well. And I think what
Aukland FC have quickly done is engage a really really
strong active support. That means that in those periods Mike,
where things aren't necessarily happening, you know quick on the pitch,
there's plenty happening often and look it's an occasion. That's
why they're getting such big crowds. Yes, it helps that

(01:02:28):
they're winning. And look, I don't want to say that
the quality of the football isn't isn't at a at
a decent level.

Speaker 14 (01:02:34):
It is, and especially in this league.

Speaker 26 (01:02:36):
But yeah, but if you're there for Premier League football,
you're not going to get that. But if they're for
an occasion, you will certainly get that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Save are you working tonight, By the way, just speak
to your football comman.

Speaker 25 (01:02:45):
I think you've got to become a bit more engrossed
in the game, or try to and look at the
tactics and look at the ball, get all the drama.
It's easy to understand when you watch football. Why it's
the world's most popular game because it's easy to underst that.
So I think you need to basketball where everyone scores
every time they go.

Speaker 11 (01:03:04):
Up and down the floor. A great game, but.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Football actually, speaking of football, speaking of basketball, you're working tonight,
and if you are, where would you put the Dontage trade?

Speaker 25 (01:03:15):
Gee, that would have to be right up the top,
if not the lead. That's that that has come as
a complete shock. Everybody assumed Doncic was a Dallas Maverick
for life, probably given what he's done in that team
in the game. But you could hear the tills clicking
or tills ringing over as soon as that trade was made.

(01:03:37):
Because now the LA Lakers become even more popular. If
all their games aren't weren't sold out, there will be
now because Don Chic and Lebron James.

Speaker 11 (01:03:43):
What a combo?

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Isn't that funny?

Speaker 14 (01:03:45):
Though?

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
Because Lakers are useless. I mean they're not completely used,
They're not as useless as they were, but they're still
they're still not what.

Speaker 25 (01:03:50):
They were when table.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Yeah, they still you know.

Speaker 25 (01:03:54):
He will bring a lot to that team, obviously because
he's an all star pro. But he'll also bring a
lot of that typical La fan for you with.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
It exactly, and and isn't it interesting, Jason? Is those guys,
don't it? And the David what's his name, Davis Davies yet, right,
so they didn't even know that was happening to them.

Speaker 14 (01:04:14):
Incredible?

Speaker 2 (01:04:15):
Isn't it able?

Speaker 14 (01:04:15):
That? Oh?

Speaker 26 (01:04:16):
I mean, can you imagine that happening in Super Rugby
Bowden Barrett and Damian McKenzie. You're swapping franchises. We're telling
you this is happening, not anything else, and didn't even know.

Speaker 25 (01:04:29):
They can be finishing, they could finish a game, come
off the court, Management calls them into their office and
whatever it's is right, you're traded to see you later,
thank you back.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
It's incredible. It's it's it's like me ringing you up
and saying you're doing afternoons on flavor. Jason. I mean,
just just just like that would be that would be
a shock move and a blockbuster trade. That would that
would be that leads you bulletin sav at a sign
you're sav Is he done or not? What's happened there?
Because he couldn't lose until he did lose, and when

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he loses, he count stop losing.

Speaker 22 (01:05:01):
I suppose, like a lot of boxes or in those
combat sports you read and a lot of other sports,
you reach your peek, you win a few titles, and
no matter what you say back in that the depths
of the brain, the subconscious is.

Speaker 25 (01:05:14):
That you don't have that drive anymore. Maybe or you
don't have that killer instinct anymore. I think that's maybe
what's happened to Addisonya.

Speaker 21 (01:05:20):
Is he done?

Speaker 25 (01:05:21):
I would doubt that you can. You can lose several
or suffer several losses in UFC and keep going, and
he's still a huge name in that sporting world. But yeah,
maybe just the hunger's not there anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
Okay, Brie break more in a moment, Jason Pin and Andrews
Sall a couple of sports new sports I want to
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Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Andrew Sebral Jason Pine Withers, Jason, have you seen the
new golf form TGL?

Speaker 14 (01:06:01):
I have. I think I've sort of operated on the
fringes of it.

Speaker 26 (01:06:04):
I wouldn't be able to comment very competently about it.

Speaker 14 (01:06:08):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
I think it's crap. I think it's going nowhere.

Speaker 14 (01:06:11):
I watched about thirty seconds of it and it was stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Here's the only reason I raise it with you, guys.
I was with my substitute hairdresser last week and he's
taken up golf recently, and I said this tgl's bollocks.
He said he enjoyed it, thoroughly enjoyed it, and he
cited Korea. In South Korea, most people can't afford to
join a golf course, so they play golf in that fashion.
For people who haven't seen it, basically, you're smacking a

(01:06:35):
ball into a massive screen. It's a computer game until
you get to a real green and you put And
he found it intrigued.

Speaker 27 (01:06:43):
There's a lot of simulated there's a lot of simulated
places like that.

Speaker 14 (01:06:45):
It mean z too. I'd imagine it'd be a huge asent.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Yeah, yeah, And so what he was enjoying was the
banter the chat with the players. It's a bit back
and forward. All the guys are micd up and he
found that interesting. So I thought, Okay, maybe I found
somebody's But I see, Jason, I see no future for
this at all.

Speaker 14 (01:07:02):
Isn't Ry McElroy backing this?

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
This is and Tiger Woods.

Speaker 14 (01:07:06):
Yeah, well so two big names exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
And they were all there. The players are all there.
I mean, it's not like they lack names, talent, money.
They've got a purpose built stadium for it. And I'm
just looking at it.

Speaker 27 (01:07:18):
But it's not it's not real. It's not real golf.
It's not like it's if one non PlayStation it's it's
it's great to a certain degree, but it's not the
real thing, honestly exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
And that's why. See. Then it brings me to table
tennis because table tennis last week signed a prime time
deal with CBS in America. Now table tennis, table tennis.
So are we just just putting anything on television now
and we think it will work, which then brings me
to pickle versus paddle.

Speaker 27 (01:07:47):
Bullick pickle versus Yeah, good point, because pickleball's gone off
and that new paddle paddle some courts not only the
ASP Classic, but around Auckland.

Speaker 14 (01:07:57):
That's taken off to.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
See what I'm Here's what I'm getting. Pickle is huge
in America and they had two leagues that have formed
into one league and it's going to be profitable as
of next year. It's a professional league. Lebrons actually involved
in that. That's got a TV deal as well. My
son has just come back from Europe. He works at
a club and that they've just put in paddle courts
and paddles different to pickle. They put in paddle courts,
he says, the paddle courts, and they took over the

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tennis courts. The paddle courts are booked from seven in
the morning till seven at night, seven days a week,
twenty four to seven. You cannot get on a paddle court.
It is the biggest thing going.

Speaker 27 (01:08:31):
Is pickleball so popular because no one can be bothered
running around a tennis court anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
I think that'll be right because you've got the holy
ball and a funny bat, whereas paddle is a.

Speaker 27 (01:08:39):
Genders and the courts and paddle I think is on
pretty much a tennis court.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
It's a smaller tennis court, but with squash walls and
a different sort of bat. But it's just I can't
work out whether we're just literally inventing new sport because
we're bored, and if we invented, isn't going to go anywhere?
Or are we taking current sports like this TGL and
just reinventing it for television and putting the day You've
got table tennis on primetime television. Something's gone wrong, isn't it.

(01:09:03):
I mean table tennis.

Speaker 14 (01:09:05):
I get the part.

Speaker 26 (01:09:06):
Yeah, I get the participations I pickleball massive and as
you say, the bookings for the courts for participation. That's
that's fine, But are you really going to sit down
and watch the elite level of it?

Speaker 10 (01:09:16):
No?

Speaker 14 (01:09:16):
I don't think so.

Speaker 27 (01:09:17):
No, it would rate during the Olympics, but not anywhere else.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
That's exactly what I thought. I thought there are certain
things we watched during the Olympics once every four years
that you don't watch normally, and you go, that's fun.
But then the rest of the time we're board witness.
What about the NFL and that Andrew? How big is
that going to be in Melbourne in Australia.

Speaker 27 (01:09:31):
Yeah, I don't know about the NCG though, it's it's
pretty tough watching the rugby game the year, and as
you know, the NFL field is even thinner, Yeah, in dimensions,
so you're going to be even further away from the
NFL players. However, I wouldn't I'd say they wouldn't struggle
on selling one hundred thousand tickets the selling Philadelphia Eagles,
especially with the Jordan Malart of the It's a big,

(01:09:51):
big move having regular season games all around the world
by the NFL. But as we know, it's very very popular,
becoming more popular outside of the state.

Speaker 14 (01:09:59):
So great.

Speaker 26 (01:10:00):
What about Chris Wooden as a piny oh rarefied, Yeah,
this bloke that's winning.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
Winning, Winning leads to winning. Once you start scoring and
you believe you can score it, will you score at will,
don't you?

Speaker 21 (01:10:12):
Well?

Speaker 26 (01:10:12):
He is seventeen goals only what Harland and Sillah have
scored more in the Premier League this season than Chris
wood is just unbelievable.

Speaker 14 (01:10:20):
Eighty six in the Premier League.

Speaker 26 (01:10:22):
Now that's inside the top fifty Premier League goal scorers
of all time. The guys unbelievable Nottingham Forrests have worked
them out. Look like, give Chris wood the ball and
he'll put the ball in the back of the net,
and they're playing for him.

Speaker 14 (01:10:33):
He's putting the ball in the net.

Speaker 27 (01:10:36):
It's even more special, isn't it, because he's a epitome
of perseverance, having been loaned out to different teams, having
been with three or four different EPL teams other lower
division teams all through his career. Now to finally find
a home and be banging them in from everywhere, it's remarkable.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
Is that worth money, Jason? I mean, at the end
of the year Winever his contracts up. Is that a
major change or not? Really?

Speaker 26 (01:10:57):
Well, he's just signed a new extension, so these goals yes,
have meant a two year extension at the end of
this season. He'll be thirty six by then. Nice way
to finish. Maybe a season dec at Auklar the FC Mica.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
Is he going to work on more spectacular goal scoring?
I don't want to be the big critic here, but
that they tend to be headers at the last minute?
Done that? I mean, you know Harland every now and
again or football.

Speaker 14 (01:11:20):
If you watch more football, you realize they all count back.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
Yeah, no, that's true, they all count. But if I
was going to score a goal, I'd go from the
edge and just the bullet you know, I mean ahead
as you sort.

Speaker 27 (01:11:31):
Of fall into this as the substitute hairdress have been
called him because Greg will no longer cut your here
a certain way now that you're sixty and things changed.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Is this going to continue on all year? Because I
tell you why.

Speaker 14 (01:11:44):
Well, I'm milk it for what it's worth.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
So far fair enough. Nice to see you, guys. Andrew
Savil Jason Pine is twenty two past eight.

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Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
A twenty five high. Mike heard your conversation. Really the
AFC as an Auckland AFC. We have corporate seats at
Eden Park for our family, but what AFC are doing
is next level. We were there an hour before kick
off Saturday. There's one hundred percent of families therefore pre
match entertainment. Our kids love it. I don't follow football,
but now seriously considering taking our Eden Park membership to
Mount Smart. It's all part of the package. I meanlessly

(01:12:18):
fascinated with the promotion of sport and the professionalism of
sport and the business of sport, and that NFL thing
this morning just think about it. There's videos, a whole
bunch of videos if you want to look them up
on places like YouTube. They do behind the scenes looks
at how to move an NFL team and what's required
and the size of the plane. You've got to remember this,
fifty something people on a team each and every week,
and that's about thirty or forty people and coach. You're

(01:12:39):
talking well in excess of one hundred people traveling and
gear and the sort of the gear they travel. You
just think about moving somebody from Los Angeles or Philadelphia
to Australia and you're talking multiple planes, you know, and
big planes at that. So sports booming in general, and
you're right, I mean, it's all part of the package,
isn't It's not no longer just about turning up and

(01:13:00):
you know, waiting for the kickoff. I watched I think
ten maybe fifteen minutes over the weekend of by now,
the shopping conspiracy don't need to watch it. We've seen
it a thousand times before. The only addition this one.
It's usual, you know, slave labor and a lot of
plastic and all to the rubbish dumps, and we buy
too much clothing. It's one of those documentaries anyway. The

(01:13:21):
only addition they'd added was what they call sheen. I've
called it shine, Sheen shine, whatever they and here was
the number that got me. They're currently they're going to
IPO this year and they're trying to schmooz the UK lawmakers.
The UK lawmakers are deeply worried about the supply chain
and dangerous goods and all that sort of stuff, so
they're ramping up what they call their charm offensive. At
the moment when they do IPO, it's going to be

(01:13:43):
worth billions because people can't stop shopping and they can't
stop spending anyway. As regards clothes on sheen or shine,
the only thing that came out of this documentary of
any note was they invent one point three million new
styles of clothing every year. Just think about a fashion
house you did summer winter. These days, you might do Hall,

(01:14:06):
you might do a cruise line. Anyway, she do one
point three million new designs.

Speaker 22 (01:14:14):
And the amazing thing is that I've never warned a
style of any kind.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
People have commented about that funnily enough, but that's a
story for another time.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
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Speaker 2 (01:14:34):
I was astounded, No, I wasn't I read something over
the weekend. I thought this will be a big story,
and it turns out no one else thought so. So
one of the people who got released as part of
the ceasefire in the Middle East. She's a British Israeli.
Her name is Emily Demari. She was on the phone
to Sakiah Starmer over the weekend having a chat as

(01:14:56):
part of her freedom. She was released earlier on this month.
She said she was held at sites belonging to the
UN's Agency for Palestinian Refugees, so she was held by
hermas at a UN agency. The UN agency is the
much talked about UNRA. Now, when was the last time
you heard about UNRA. Well, the last time you heard

(01:15:16):
about UNRA was when we stopped funding them and many
other countries stopped funding them because we thought some of
their behavior in the original attack against Israel were suspect.
In other words, they'd been infiltrated by Hamas. Now we
at the time, if you remember the fine detail Peter's
looked into this. We didn't actually owe them any money
until I think it was July last year. By the

(01:15:38):
time they'd gone into it, looked at it, they'd decided
that there was okay and we could fund them again.
And yet all of a sudden and UN United Nations
agency that we fund suddenly has her mass there holding hostages,
and nobody seemed security of it. Where's that story? Twenty

(01:15:58):
two minutes away.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
From line international correspondence with ends in eye insurance peace
of mind.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
For New Zealand business.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Yeah, and I.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
Studied to do post morning view.

Speaker 11 (01:16:08):
Yeah, I think we I might be wrong with I
think we still you found that out?

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
Yes you do, and haven't and petty wrong.

Speaker 11 (01:16:16):
The foreign ministers refused to cut the funding.

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
And so suddenly Hamas's in the middle of UN headquarters
holding hostages. And if you were a foreign minister, would
you be interested in knowing that detail?

Speaker 11 (01:16:28):
I would have thought so. And you're quite right that
there is not anywhere here today. It might develop during
the day once the opposition finds out about it, and
the Parliament came back tomorrow, so I would think that
they will get some questions about that in parliament this week.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Just to explain by a way background. I followed this
with a great deal of interest. It appears Elbow this
is the caravan last week with the explosives. Elbow knew
nothing Men's did. But Men's who runs in New South
Wales knew because he had talked to US local FEDS
as opposed to the Fed Feds that might be talking
to Elbow. Elbow's refusing to answer questions. Was he kept
than the dick?

Speaker 11 (01:17:01):
Yeah, I think he was. It seems very odd, doesn't it.
I mean the New South Wales premier came out yesterday
and said, well what actually happened and just brief back,
this all happened back in jan nineteen. Cavan gets found
in northeast northwestern suburbs of Sydney, loaded with plastic exposives
probably stolen from a mining company, anti Semitic messages and
an address of a synagogue in it. So it's being

(01:17:23):
treated as a potential terror attack. They say if the
van had been buy own up, it would have created
a forty meter radius of damage, killing a lot of people.
Now you would think the Prime Minister of the country
would be immediately brief on such a thing, because this
would be the biggest largest terrorist attack in Australia forever.

(01:17:46):
Min's gets told on the twentieth of January. The next
very next day, the twenty first of January, interestingly, the
Prime Minister and the New South Wales Premier are at
the site of remember the childcare center the got daubed
with anti Semitic messages, not far from a local synagogue.
They were there together, they both spoke, both gave media conferences.

(01:18:07):
And we're to believe that Christopher Men's the Premiere, wouldn't
have taken elbow aside and said, listen, mate, got some
bad news. There was a caravan found up the road
full of plastic explosives. It just doesn't make any sense.
Peter Dutton has come out and said, look, if the
Prime Minister of our country is not across what was
potentially the biggest terrorist attack in our country's history essentially

(01:18:29):
until the public found out about it, I think that's
an absolute abrogation of his responsibility. A correct protocol, Albanezey said,
was held and so we don't speak about operational matters.
No one's buying that ocument exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:18:43):
Speaking of Dutton, and I note that he was talking
about did he officially announce it over the weekend or
the clip I saw he was just talking to a
woman and an Asian woman who was sort of saying,
please reinstate the golden visa. Has he announced that his
policy or not?

Speaker 11 (01:18:56):
No, that you're right. He was picked up on a
hot mike saying to a gathering of Chinese business people
that he was at where they were fundraising for the election,
that this is going to suit you by the way
down to the ground, because I know you've always had
a great desire to come and live here. Exactly, if
you invest five million, which is small change for you

(01:19:18):
to Australia, you get a Golden ticket visa. Now, these
things existed under the previous Liberal government, but they were
dropped by the alban Easy government. So Peter Dutton has
aired his plan at this fundraiser and he says, look,
we will look at it. I won't promise to bring
it back right now, and I may do so in

(01:19:39):
the lead up to the election, but I will certainly
examine it once we get elected. What's this all about, Well,
it's all about getting the Chinese support during an election
campaign and making sure that they're talking to the Chinese
voters who might change their vote from labor back to
the Liberals. That's what it's about. But that Golden ticket
visa will apparently now be your in stated and it's

(01:20:00):
pretty simple. I mean, if you're buy a decent house
in Sydney, that's what you're spending anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
Exactly, and there's there's no test, there's no language test,
there's just another words handover the day you're.

Speaker 11 (01:20:10):
In that's exactly right. And if you invest in a business,
same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:20:15):
The Kyle Sandlan's to explain to people here, Kyle and
Jackie Ower thing on FM radio. They're a big deal
in radio, they're very successful all that sort of stuff.
But this aneurysm is this this morning, that's just.

Speaker 11 (01:20:26):
Broken yes an noows it's on his radio pregnant this morning.
So to put people in the picture, they've both signed
ten million dollars a year each contracts for ten years
on the radio network on which they appear. They rated
number scene amount of money. They rate number one in

(01:20:46):
Sydney FM and more often than not number one overall.
This year or last year being beamed into Melbourne very unsuccessfully,
rating around about five five percent. So they haven't worked
in Melbourne this is their second year trying to do that.
So Kyle goes on there this morning. He was away

(01:21:06):
off here on Friday, and look, I've had a real
crack at the sky because of his smutty content in
a number of newspaper columns that I've written and on
television I've called him at buffoon. But I hope all
works out well for him. He's been and had a
scan and he's now got to go on her brain
surgery because they've found an aneurysm on the brain. So

(01:21:30):
I hope the surgery is successful and I hope he's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
And do you know anything about when that happens? As
that happened today, tomorrow, this week.

Speaker 11 (01:21:35):
Nix eminently, jeez, this week sometime.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
Hey, do you know Joe Halen the New South Wales
transport minutes? So she goes what So she goes, She
goes and hires or books the ministerial driver to drive
her and her friends four hundred and forty six kilometers
from Sydney to a holiday home over the Astra Long weekend.

(01:22:01):
And somehow she doesn't think that that's going to turn
out to be a problem.

Speaker 11 (01:22:04):
Unbelievable. I mean it wasn't just to get to the
holiday home. She went from the holiday she got the
Kia Carnival, which seats eight people. We're told in this
report to come to Cave's Beach, which is where a
holiday home is, pick her up and another minister and
their partners. They all pile in the Kia Carnival and

(01:22:25):
they head off to a range of wineries in the
Hunter Valley. So they've gone on a boozy wine tour
with a government driver who then the poor bugger, he's
worked twelve hours on the day in question. He's dropped
them back at the beach has and he's had to
drive all the way back to Sydney.

Speaker 2 (01:22:41):
Un Has she apologizing or been sacked or no?

Speaker 11 (01:22:45):
Nothing?

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
Okay, all right, we'll see Wednesday. Appreciate it very much. Yeah,
it was four hundred and forty six kilometers fourteen hours.
Can't make the stuff up. It is eight forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:22:56):
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Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
That'd be lot of Orane didn't touch on it with Steve,
but a lot of oined in Northern Queensland over the
weekend to be following at Townsville, thirty nine inches inches
since Friday. Record continues today. Worse floods in the region
in sixty years. By the way, I watched on CNBC
the other Day's a little story they did on little
piece they did on Singapore Alliance, which I've always liked,

(01:23:24):
and sort of my ongoing fascination with aviation generally and
the New Zealand poor old in New Zealand, and how
we want them to do better, and how they're a
nationally aligned and we all own a slash of them,
And how come they're not doing as well as everybody else?
And how come our country is not doing as well
as everybody else? And how come everyone else's tourism's back?
Gave you the numbers on Friday. Globally it's back to
ninety nine percent of what it was pre COVID. New
Zealand nowhere near peace. In the Herald yesterday about Singapore Alliance.

(01:23:46):
More capacity in this country than at any time in
nearly fifty years flying here. So they're an expansionary mode.
Three point six million passengers last month alone. I know
what the great deal of interest in the so called
cost of crisis. Do we still have a cost of
living crisis now inflations under control. I don't I think
that's officially ended. Let's not use it until the Trump
tariff status. Well, of course that'll be different, that'll be

(01:24:09):
cost of living crisis two point zero. But for now,
let's just say the cost of living crisis is over
loads and premium cabins, and that's up. The front continue
to run higher than pre pandemic. So they're now moving
Singapore into Vietnam, Thailands, ra A Lanka, which apparently we're
interested in as New Zealand travelers there. The story, the
point of the story was the link to F one.
In other words, Liam Lawson, we're going to get more

(01:24:29):
interested in F one if one's in Singapore. A lot
of interests already shine for tickets to that part of
the world later on in the year. Internationally, a transport
association of three hundred and fifty air lines around the
world total full year traffic last year was up ten
and a half percent compared with twenty twenty three, so
they are now Internationally planes are now at three point
eight percent above pre pandemic level. So it is official.

(01:24:54):
We are back out in the world in a major
aviational way. Good but I just don't when in New
Zealand report next whenever that will be, I just don't
see it. Unfortunately, in the bottom line of our National
Airline turn away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:25:09):
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be talking.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
To Rod tomorrow. Britain's needed. There's a big scrap over
the weekend, a Tory MP said, Britain's need a better
work ethic. So it's not just us and talking to
Louise upstate earlier on this morning, and the number of
people are on the traffic light on the orange and red,
and how they're putting in and get more measures to
try and get people to work. At the same time,
no one can find anybody to work in hospital and
so it goes. I didn't get time to tell you
about my retail experience over the weekend. I might tomorrow

(01:25:36):
if I do get time. But what a bust that was.
It wasn't a bust in the end, it turned out
very successfully. But the number of people who aren't open
on the weekend, don't want to be open on the weekend,
can't really be bothered doing anything on a weekend. My
simple thing in life I'll give you more details tomorrow.
My simple thing in life is if you're making a
comparatively speaking majorish purchase, what's the first thing? First of all,

(01:25:58):
it takes time because you think about it. You do
your due diligence. It's not a spirit of the moment thing.
You're not clicking collecting it. You're thinking, now, if I'm
going to spend this amount of money, what am I
looking for? What do I need? Who can help me?
I've got some questions et for that. You need to
be open. So when generally do we do this? We
do this on the weekend. Why are the malls busy
on the weekend because everyone's out shopping on the weekend.

(01:26:19):
So why were the people I wanted to deal with,
and not just one, but all of them not open
on the weekend? They don't with don you want to
work Monday to Friday? They want to work. They want
to work about nine to thirty to fourish, probably in
reality three thirty ish, and that's about their day. Anyway,
Where was I? So that's with Rod. And then I
also read over the weekend with interest that the North
Koreans have bailed from the war, which I find very

(01:26:41):
good piece and C and N. By the way, they
discovered the notes of a North Korean soldier in the
war on tactics of how they fight. One is you
put the grenade under your chin. If you think you
have done for put the grenade under your chin, pull
the pin, blow yourself up. Simple as that. That's how
they're anyway. They're a bit sick of fighting that war
and have gone home, allegiately. By the way, from.

Speaker 1 (01:27:02):
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Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
I got some basketball. So we've had the big Dantage
news this morning. So we've got a new basketball thing
out on Netflix. It's comedy show. Kate Hudson takes over
an NBA team from La. Listen to this.

Speaker 15 (01:27:23):
I work in a family business, the greatest basketball franchise
in the history of the game, the Los Angeles Waves.

Speaker 3 (01:27:31):
Tyler, I am making you the president of the Waves.

Speaker 9 (01:27:35):
You were the president of the Waves.

Speaker 3 (01:27:37):
This shocking, But on the half of all women, don't
ever make a mistake. It looks bad for all of us.
We're a family, says, we got in your back.

Speaker 13 (01:27:46):
No matter what people say, what are they saying.

Speaker 20 (01:27:48):
Which is the fact that you're a neple baby, and
you don't know what you're doing, but you're old, so
it's like you're kind of you're like a nepplechron.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
Oh my god, don't go on red it unless you
want to kill yourself. You were the smartest word.

Speaker 9 (01:28:00):
I know that's not a high bar. Darn, We just sock.

Speaker 3 (01:28:02):
I want to know what you're going to do to
stop the fuck?

Speaker 14 (01:28:05):
Am I that bitch?

Speaker 3 (01:28:05):
And you are the biggest bitch?

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
Running hot? No, it's not. I should have been called
running hot. They called it running point. When I saw that,
I thought, well, do they call it running hot? Whatever?
Kate Hudson, as I've already mentioned, Max Greenfield, Who's Max
Max was Schmidt a new girl that means anything to you.
Brenda's song is also I think I know the name

(01:28:30):
Brenda song from something or she in Sound of Music. No, anyway,
Brenda Song's in it as well. Feb. Twenty seventh on Netflix,
almost through The Apprentice, the movie. It's on Disney or Neon.
You got a paper, it's still to rent it. It's

(01:28:50):
the Donald Trump Story with Jeremy Strong. We featured it
last year. Jeremy Strong absolutely sensational, gobsmacking I think it's
six ninety nine or seven ninety nine. I'd pay twelve
ninety nine. Ex that good back tomorrow. There's always Happy Days.

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