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September 5, 2024 89 mins

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
B having welcome today new rules to make building cheaper
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Welcome to the day, seven past six. Now the process
isn't over, but the hawks Bay District Council was the
latest yesterday to confirm a decision that they've made earlier

(00:33):
to introduce a Mari seat to their operation. Now under
this new law, if you've missed it passed by Wellington
the central Government. If you've done that, in other words,
introduced a new Maory seat, you either have to drop
that seat at next year's local body election or take
it to a vote. They have voted to take it
to a vote. A lot of councils have done the
same thing. I think in totality that's probably the right
thing to do. It's a good thing to do. Having

(00:53):
race based seats, of course is wrong, but at the
very least you have to give your constituents a say,
which has been the crime quite rightly identified and corrected
by the government. Part of the argument put Forden hawks Bay,
as I'm sure it has been in various council meetings
around the country, is mari voices are under threat.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
The trouble with that is it simply isn't true. It
never has been. And in that misrepresentation of the facts
is the beauty of democracy. Democracy is alive and well
in this country. It's just sadly one of those things
that we take for granted part of the democratic process.
As anyone can stand, anyone can have their voices heard.
Far from being under threat, they're not the fascinating. But now,
once all the decisions on elections are made, is how

(01:31):
many votes for seats will there be and will anyone
be able to actually get a majority, to actually earn
a seat if every single vote votes.

Speaker 4 (01:39):
Know?

Speaker 2 (01:40):
What's that told us about the entire Murray seat exercise.
Could it be in certain areas though maybe Northland, Gisbon,
possibly Hawks Bay, that a campaign can be successfully run
to get enough numbers over the line. And if that happens,
does that spur others on? Could it be the democratic
exercise of actually voting leads to a growth the number
of Maori seats. Imagine that success by election, growth by democracy,

(02:05):
a voice heard enacted upon in a positive way. Surely
the prospect of that potential is far more satisfying and
satisfactory legally than the jury matted mess we haven till now.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
News of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Right to the States where lawyers are flat out all
over the place. Trump has played not guilty to the
rew Gen six case.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
Jack Smith has done enough prooning of that indictment that
it will get over that hurdle that I call the
immunity hurdle. So that could take time in terms of filings,
oral argument, and a decision by Judge Chunkin.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Now while A's briefs handled that he's in New York
rounding up the votes.

Speaker 6 (02:41):
Unbelievably, she will seek a tax on unrealized capital games.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
Most people don't even know.

Speaker 7 (02:47):
What that means.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
What does it mean?

Speaker 6 (02:51):
And it is time to send Comrade Kamala Harris back
home to California.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Also in court, Hunter Biden, who's changed his play on
the cal on your text case he's decided he's guilty.

Speaker 8 (03:02):
At the moment, we simply do not know what kind
of sentence he might face. The potential, of course for
up to seventeen years. We can probably safely assume it
will be a lot less than that.

Speaker 9 (03:13):
If indeed there is any prison.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Time, then in France we've got a couple of things
blow me down. If we don't have an UPM.

Speaker 10 (03:18):
It's a set of hands and that thing to be
needed into the current police constitution in France, where he
will have to face a fragmented parliament, a divided country.

Speaker 9 (03:30):
So the challenge ahead of him is.

Speaker 11 (03:32):
Act really huge.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yes, Michael Bannier, we speak of you know the name
more shortly, and the debate about the Olympic rings on
the Eiffel Tower rolls on. It's the talk of the
bottle pan.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
I think it's okay for now, but not forever. It's
a h'storical monument.

Speaker 12 (03:44):
So for me, the town well is amazing, you know,
is so beautiful, but with the ring look a little
bit different, so I think it's not very.

Speaker 11 (03:53):
Esthetic, you know.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
And in Brittany, in question of the death of Steve Diamond.
Now Diamond was on the Jeremy Kyle Show got monstered
diet you afterwards. This is unheed footage.

Speaker 13 (04:02):
Just see her away. You failed every single question.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Oh my god, I was never on faith. Failed their
request meant they did a light detective test. Finally, here's
a move. Nicholas Madeiro of Venezuela fame. He's under a
little bit of pressure, has been reported on this program
several times, given his stack the election back in July,
and has been facing protests and international condemnation ever since.
So he stand up on television and says, it's September

(04:32):
and it already smells like Christmas, which is why this
year is a way of paying tribute to you all,
and in gratitude to you all, I'm going to decreate
early Christmas for October first. Mostly just means the decorations
and a couple of parties come. Here's the world in
ninety second. Yeah, Bane is interesting. He's a conservative, of
the course, He's got to face a no confidence vote
in the lower House. No one seems to know how

(04:54):
that's going to go. He's also been given a very
short period of time by Mac Ron to put together
the government. So good luck with that and we follow
with interest. Twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
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it By News Talks.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
And while Barney tries to piece together front the New
Democratic Party, the NDP have pulled the plug on Trudeau
in Canada. I'll work you through it. Actually it's a
very MMP type arrangement, but anyway, it's all falling apart
for him. Fifteen past six, Jay am I well handra
kelliher morning, Very good morning, Mylenstein Glassons. Who doesn't love
a good news retail story in these dark and dismal times?

Speaker 13 (05:34):
I reckon, I reckon I couldn't go past this.

Speaker 14 (05:37):
I mean because outside of Brisco's news flow from retail
has been.

Speaker 13 (05:40):
Pretty downbeat, hasn't it. Yeah, But here we have a
retailer with.

Speaker 14 (05:42):
What looks on the face of it to be a
positive result announcement. So well done, Helen Stein Glassons. As
you've said, there's a fair bit of doom and gloom
out there. I mean, interest rates have sucked the life
out of discretionary spending, but our retailers who have been
able to respond.

Speaker 11 (05:57):
And the other thing I like about this.

Speaker 14 (05:59):
Mike is apparent has been one of the hardest set
retail sectors as well, so Hellstein Glasses. They're due to
announce their full results on the thirtieth of September, but
yesterday they provided a trading update ahead.

Speaker 11 (06:11):
Of that release.

Speaker 14 (06:12):
So this is for the full year for the twelve
months cented first October twenty twenty four, sales four hundred
and thirty six million. That's an increase of six point
three percent on the previous year. Improved gross margin, which
is an achievement, so that revenue translates into gross net
profit before tax expected to be in the range of
fifty one and a half to fifty two and a
half million, and that is a fourteen and a half

(06:34):
percent improvement on last year.

Speaker 11 (06:36):
After tax profit was also high.

Speaker 14 (06:37):
So a couple of comments are significant cash reserves, well
maintained stock levels.

Speaker 11 (06:42):
All sounds pretty good. Now. They didn't go into a.

Speaker 14 (06:45):
Great, great deal more detail than that, so we will
have to wait for the full results on the on
the thirty September to corroborate this, but on the face
of it look pretty good and the share market rewarded
that yesterday rewarded the upbeat tone share price up point
two percent to.

Speaker 13 (07:00):
Six dollars forty so on the Facebook.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Well done, very good. Indeed, I'm glad you raised this
again because this debate between the Reserve Bank and the government,
and you talked about this. I think it was yesterday.
The government's meeting in Australia is allegedly driving inflation and
this is the standoff. And so she Michelle Bullock was
on the record yesterday.

Speaker 11 (07:16):
Yes Michelle.

Speaker 14 (07:17):
RBA Governor Michelle Bullock gave him on the record speech
in Sydney at lunchtime yesterday. Now, yeah, there's a whole
lot being gone on this week. The RBA has taken
a bit of flat this week.

Speaker 11 (07:24):
Now.

Speaker 14 (07:25):
It started from none other than Treasurer Jim Chalmers, who
over the weekend said that high interest rates are in
his words, smashing the economy.

Speaker 13 (07:33):
And it all descended into political shenanigans.

Speaker 14 (07:35):
With the opposition claiming that the treasure was beating up
on the Central Bank. Charmers came out and he did
a media blitz on Tuesday. I think he did three
TV or radio stations in thirty minutes or something to
try and explain his position. Bullet's address was at a
fundraising event that the RBA governor has traditionally attended now
for some years, So she didn't specifically come out she
had the opportunity, but she basically reiterated the bank's position.

(08:00):
She defended the hawker's position that the bank has taken.

Speaker 11 (08:03):
She again ruled out.

Speaker 14 (08:05):
An easing of policy settings in the near term, stated
that inflation remained high, the bank is vigilant to further
increases in inflation, and made the comment that high interest
rates were the lesser of two evils.

Speaker 11 (08:17):
When compared to high inflation.

Speaker 14 (08:19):
So it was a fairly she took her fairly sort
of a fairly stern stance, so it would appear that
there is no chance of the RBA bending to political pressure.
But yeah, it's been a big week for those guys
over there.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
I like the cut of her jib. Now the number
of the ninety nine thousand number overnight and I'm looking
at the Dow. Are they freaking out again?

Speaker 13 (08:37):
No, they're not.

Speaker 14 (08:38):
So the reason they're not is so last night we
had a couple of labor numbers. We had the ADP
National Employment Report. Ninety nine thousand jobs were added to them. Now,
that was well below consensus estimates which were around one
hundred and forty five thousand, So this then prompts the
recession fears. But then you had jobless claims came out
last night, so this is the number of Americans filing

(08:58):
for job benefits that declined. It fell five thousand to
two hundred and twenty seven thousand, So that then argues
against the recession argument. So it doesn't really give you
a clear red on where the big non farm payroll
number will come in over the weekend. You also had
the Institute of Supply Managed Services index that was fifty
one and a half. That's sort of expanding. Six out

(09:20):
of the eight months and twenty twenty four have been expanding,
so very mixed outcomes. And we're actually seeing exactly that
on the sheer market outcomes where we've got the sm
P five.

Speaker 13 (09:28):
Hundred and the dour small down, but the NASTAK is up.

Speaker 11 (09:31):
So yep, no clear picture.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
What are the rest of the numbers?

Speaker 14 (09:35):
Yeah, so the S and P five hundred down point
one one percent, the Dow is up, sorry, down point
three six percent, but the Nasdaq is up sixty five.

Speaker 13 (09:44):
Points, so point three percent, so who would know.

Speaker 14 (09:46):
We'll wait and see the forts one hundred down twenty
eight overnight eight two four one, about a third of
a percent. Four The Nicka was down one percent three
hundred and ninety points three sixty sixty five seven. Shanghai
composite up four barely changed yesterday's the Aussie's in response
to the shinanigans around inflation, interest rates are actually gained
point four percent thirty two points seventy nine eight ten.

(10:08):
We had a stormy day on the Inze's fifty yesterday
up one hundred and twenty five points one percent twelve
six hundred and seventy eight. On the currency markets, one
Keywi dollar will get your point six two to two
zero against the US point nine two three five ossie
point five six o three against the Euro point four
to seven two three pounds eighty nine point one nine
Japanese yen gold two thousand, five hundred and thirteen dollars

(10:30):
in brent Hood's still subdued.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Good we call it six Yesterday. I go to the
expense of petrol station in town because I'm an idiot,
But two eighty six on the ninety eight yesterday starts working,
so I love it. There you go, I have a
good weekend. Andrew Kelliherjmiwealth dot Co dot m Z past
geting summer's over in America domestic box office though for
the summer state side, three point six billion. Is that good?

(10:53):
Sort of ten percent dropped from the same time last year,
but way better than they thought. It's down. They were
down twenty two percent going into the summer, So down
ten at the end. At the end of the world
are saved by Inside Out two Dead Paul and Wolverine.
Just to give you some context, the number nineteen and
twenty nineteen, it was four point three, twenty eighteen, four

(11:14):
point four, and so you can add inflation to those numbers.
Twenty thirteen four point seven, So it ain't what it was.
Movies are not the way they used to be. Sex
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Speaker 1 (11:26):
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Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, Canada is interesting, almost as interesting as the vote.
They had a new way this week. And it's not
often I say that on the program, but I'll come
back to that anyway. So Trudeau during I told you
this yesterday, Trudeau during COVID, He's an opportunist, he's not
particularly popular. He runs a minority government. He has a
cracky thing. So I'm in charge of COVID. Everyone who
goes to an election during the COVID period gets re
elected with an increased majority. Look at New Zealand. So

(11:54):
he does anyway, fails, blows up in his face. So
he's a minority. He's got a deal going with the NDP,
which is the New Democrat Party. Their leader is a
guy called Jad Meetsing. Yesterday pulled the plaque. Too selfish
to fight for Canadians. They did. What they had was
a supplying confidence. This is why LINKSLN with New Zealand.
The similar system there operates here. So they were running
a supplying confidence and so now then they went into

(12:17):
a coalition. Coalition's falling apart. We're back to supplying confidence.
So they're going to have to sort of do it
by vote on policy. So every time he wants to
do anything, Trudeau, he's going to have to rely on
this party to either go with them or not. Pressure
being on that. Eventually, if it doesn't work particularly well,
he's going to have to go to the people, which

(12:37):
he doesn't want to do. He's got to go by
October next year. But he's not popular and he's going
to get done like a dinner. I think it's my
call six twenty.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
Five trending now with the home of Big Brand Cosmetics.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Now our old make David Williams is in Australia. Is
on his way here of course, and despite going against
what he said was his better judgment, he did in
fact appear on The Kyle and Jackie Oh Show, which
is a very popular but model controversial sort of you know,
emmy chatty music, whoho a sort of showed twenty five minutes. Anyway.
I was told that Kyle was controversial, so they had
some a little bit of back and forth, things like

(13:10):
telling Kyle that the kid show he was doing would
be too advanced, he was a face for radio, wouldn't
be a job for a long time. Blah blah blah.

Speaker 11 (13:18):
I'll say, is just a little bit.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Just give us ten seconds?

Speaker 12 (13:23):
Wha, wha what?

Speaker 9 (13:24):
Just give us?

Speaker 11 (13:26):
He can't he can't be quiet, can he?

Speaker 1 (13:29):
I don't have to be my name's on the show.

Speaker 11 (13:31):
When you finish this, sow do you do? You go
in a darkened room and cry, no, really, you should
try it.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
I'm not a comedian.

Speaker 13 (13:38):
That's what comedians do, very good when they're in front
of me.

Speaker 15 (13:41):
I knew he wasn't a comedian from the moment I
met him.

Speaker 13 (13:45):
Yeah, because they're losers.

Speaker 11 (13:48):
Oh our securities.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
At the door, he said he'd never be back. Not
surprisingly by the way, Mike. In nineteen eighty nine, I
voted in the Hastings District Council and the Hawksby regional
council I was voted at at that time. Is now
Murray were able to stand for councils just like I was.
They did stand and they did get voted. And later
when a person could only stand for one council, I
was again voted on to the district council. Three or
the four councilors were Maray or part Marray. Their voices

(14:11):
are heard, were heard. I know because I was there,
Which is my entire point. This idea that somehow, and
this is what happens when you you know Jerrymander the
rules and the regulations, you get this idea that somehow
Murray voices aren't heard. It's complete and ut of rubbish.
We have a free and open democracy and that's the
way it works.

Speaker 16 (14:26):
Now.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
Speaking of which, the deadline is today for those councils
to decide which way they're going to go. As I
mentioned earlier on in the program, broadly speaking, the majority.
I'll get the numbers from Sam Broughton, who's with us
in a couple of moments, from Local Government New Zealand.
Broadly being, I think the vast majority of councils have
voted to go to a vote, which is democracy in action.
So we'll have a look at that. Scott Robinson's going

(14:46):
to stand by to the Withers from South Africa after
rate and then Timmy kay being the Friday after eight
as well. Meantime, uses next.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
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Breakfast with the Jaguar f bhase cut from a different
class news togs had been.

Speaker 2 (15:14):
They've been voting in new way. The couple of things
they voted to support, so they had four things on
the ballot. The two they supported were boring airs. They
supported changing the title of Premier to Prime Minister, so
it's no longer the Premier of New A, it's the
Prime Minister of New AA. They also changed the name
of the Audit Office to the Auditor General. Why are
they're voting on that. I've got no idea, but the
two things they didn't support, which is interesting, I think

(15:37):
the increasing of the number of ministers in the cabinet.
They didn't want more ministers. They didn't want more politicians.
They currently have four. The idea was they have six.
Didn't want it. And the increase in term from three
to four years. And that's the debate we've been starting
to have in this country. And it was interesting that
in our own neighborhood they had the choice to actually
go for it and they decided not to. So they
didn't want more politicians and they didn't want more politicians

(15:59):
for law, which I thought was interesting. Twenty two to seven.
I've seen politicians Richard Idol on the races in a
couple of moments time and also speaking of politicians and
the final day for councils here to make a decision
on Mary Wards if you like, Kuipra upper Huts have
opted out. In other words, the seat will go and
there will be no vote next year as part of
the local body elections. Many others, of course have voted
to vote local government. President Sam Broughton's back with this morning. Yeah,

(16:22):
good morning, Mike, do you have the numbers in front
of you how many councils are left and how many
have gone for a vote?

Speaker 3 (16:28):
You we've got two that have decided that they're going
to disestablish the Maori Wards and the US majority deciding
to kick them.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Okay, And as far as councils making that decision that
they all come to the party or we've still got
a few stragglers.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
I think everyone's made that decision. I haven't rung them
all just to double tick that. But you know, councils
are working to what the government's expectations are and I
would expect councils to have made those decisions.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
And is that ratio surprised you or not?

Speaker 3 (16:55):
No, I think councils have seen the value of have
been the Malory Wards and people working alongside Manafenora to
make good decisions for their communities every time when we're
supposed to be thinking about infrastructure and housing, as councils are,
it's important that we have, you know, that partnership in place.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
And what about the legal angle that some people were
going down the track off early on, going oh, we're
going to investigate whether we can get out of it.
Did anybody actually do that or was that just a threat?

Speaker 3 (17:21):
Now there's individual decisions that each council is going to make,
but from an ALGA and Z point of view, we've
encouraged people to follow government direction and make sure we
meet the time frames. You know, we live in a
country where we need to understand when decisions are made
and make them clearly with our community. So our expectation
is that councils have done that.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Do you see any council running a vote that's successful
or not?

Speaker 3 (17:45):
Yeah, I think that councils have shown that melding in
council partnership over the last or many years and lots
of cases and only a few years for some that
has bought yeah, good partnership outcomes. I know that in
my case, we don't have valbi wards, but we have
seats around the council table for BOLDI participation has resulted
in cheaper, quicker decisions for our community with I think

(18:07):
better outcomes because you have a richer discussion early on
rather than battling or fighting things out after decisions are made.
So I think communities have seen that, and yeah, I
trust it we'll see communities vote that way.

Speaker 7 (18:18):
When we come to the polls.

Speaker 2 (18:20):
That'll be fast. Do you think you have to sell
that or do you think people understand that.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
I think it'll be both. I think there needs to
be some information sharing around it. But also in some
instances it will have been made clear.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
If you're right and votes are held and those votes
are successful and we vote for Maori voices on councils,
what does that then say about the jury manded system
we've had up until this point.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Well, I think we've always enabled Maori voices around the
council table. It's just been the Pole instigation that's kind
of thrown it out a bit, where we've advocated that
we should treat all wards in the same way, and
if we have a Maori ward, it just means those
that are on the Maori role can choose to vote
on the Malori role as opposed to voting on the
general role. So it's still communities to say and putting

(19:04):
their names for it.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
All right, appreciate it. Sam Broughton, who's the Local Government
New Zealand president, our research department seems to think that
Hut's city in the far North of voting today, so
not everyone's got there, but Today is the deadline, so
they will scrape through. Nineteen away from seven. Germany's probably
been the most fascinating country of the week in the
sense that the elections last weekend and the region Saxony
being one of them, the success of the AfD. They

(19:26):
won the election. They probably won't run anything because no
one wants to work with them. But there's a very
good piece I'll come back to by Oliver Hartwich from
the New Zealand Initiative later on. But I note overnight
and this gives you an indication of the pressure that
has been placed on the coalition. The coalition, broadly speaking
three party coalition is broadly speaking left leaning. They buger

(19:48):
the economy Germany is not what it was and now,
surprise of surprises, they want to send EU migrants to
Rwanda and use the facilities left empty by Starmer pulling out.
So the UK were going to do the Ruanda thing.
As soon as Labor got to government in the UK
they said, we're not doing that. Germany goes actually, now
that we're under a bit of pressure, we might look

(20:08):
at it. Eighteen away from seven.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
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Speaker 2 (20:18):
The beam scooter thing continues to unfold. Scandal we got
at in Auckland. What was it a week, two weeks ago,
whatever it was, anyway, they had more scooters on, they
were clipping the ticket. The whole thing was a bust
and they canceled their license. It's now overnight been revealed
that they've been canceled in Brisbane, Canberra and Townsville as well,
more scooters than the license allowed some cases, allegedly avoiding

(20:38):
a clip of the ticket by the councils and the
revenue sharing deals. Why in this electronic age you would
behave that way is beyond me. But nevertheless they're the
They're the ones has been paying six forty.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Five international correspondence with ends and eye insurance. Peace of
mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
Sired Richard Arnold. Happy Friday campaign trailed updatus.

Speaker 17 (21:00):
Well, it's decades ago, of course when Clinton A. James
Carvill coined the phrase it's the economy stupid. When talking
about presidential politics here, not much has change. Money is
the topic of this day, and Trump just announced that
if he gets back in he will name Elon Musk
as an economic czar to review the entire government everything.
Elon Musk, which is man in the world, is head

(21:21):
of a government efficiency commission to take a look at
everything the government does, says Trump.

Speaker 13 (21:28):
Of that idea, create a.

Speaker 6 (21:29):
Government efficiency Commission task with conducting a complete financial and
performance audit of the entire federal government and making recommendations
for drastic reforms.

Speaker 7 (21:40):
Need to do.

Speaker 6 (21:41):
It can't go on the way we are now. And Elon,
because he's not very busy, has agreed to head that
task for us.

Speaker 17 (21:55):
So Elon for Boss of the world. So that should
set up a little debate. The rest of Trump's speech
to the Economic Club of New Yorkshire time ago, it
was all about giving more tax cuts to the wealthy
and raising taris. Meantime, Kamala Harris is talking about sharply
increasing incentives for new small businesses and easing the tax
burden on the middle class. So rich versus poor longer

(22:16):
dynamic in American politics since the days of you know,
Canugee and Rockefeller and Vanderbilts and the rest of the
so called Robert barons at the turn of the twentieth century.
Kamala Harris says, all this a tariffs the deportations, the
ever growing corporate tax cuts will cause economic chaos.

Speaker 18 (22:32):
He intends to cut off federal programs that give loans
to small businesses. He plans to give billionaires massive tax
cuts and to cut corporate taxes by over a trillion
dollars even as they pull in record profits.

Speaker 17 (22:51):
Bill gold and Saxy financial services company and investment bankers
come out today siding with Harris.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Here's what they say.

Speaker 17 (22:58):
Quote with Trump, the hit to growth from tariffs and
tighter immigration policy would outweigh the positive fiscal impulse. As
to Harris, they say, quote new spending and expanded middle
income tax credits would slightly more than off set lower
investment due to higher corporate tax rates. So that's perhaps
a little surprising from some on Wall Street, where the
Dow has been on a bit of a slide of late,

(23:18):
as we've seen. As for inflation, it's been really a
desperate battle in recent months to try to bring inflation down,
and that has sent interest rates to sky high levels,
making cars and homes unaffordable for many folks, and even
raising grossery prices. Goldin says increased tariffs on things like
auto imports from China Mexico and the EU would significantly
raise core inflation, while the shift away from federal health

(23:41):
and education programs would significantly add to the economic woes
of poor estates, especially southern states in this country, which
benefit way, way more than the wealthier states here when
it comes to federal programs.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
And then as regards the election and what Merrick Garland
was saying yesterday at the Dog on top of this, Uh.

Speaker 17 (24:00):
It's interesting, isn't it. They say that more than ever,
Putin's in a Circle has been trying to influence the
elections here. The US Attorney General Merrick Garland says, Putin
Aide set up phony websites meant to look like legitimate
news outlets, which then carried Russian propaganda opposing Biden and
the war in Ukraine.

Speaker 19 (24:16):
These websites were designed to appear to American readers as
if they were major US news sites like the Washington
Post or Fox News, but in fact they were fake sites.

Speaker 17 (24:28):
He says, this is more electoral interference than we have
seen before from Moscow.

Speaker 19 (24:34):
It's an acceleration of and it's an increased sophistication.

Speaker 17 (24:39):
So that's the headline. I didn't need to spend a
lot of money on it either it was a budget
around ten million dollars US, but the US now has
sees thirty two internet domains which were spun out of
a Tennessee based content creation company which posted nearly two
thousand fake videos in English, and then they were intended

(24:59):
to amplify the visions within this country's political scene.

Speaker 11 (25:02):
Not hard to do.

Speaker 17 (25:02):
One unnamed contributor with two point four million YouTube followers
received four hundred thousand US dollars a month for making
four videos a week. Another contributor was paid one hundred
thousand bucks per video. A meantime, Lady Me Putin has
just made an appearance where he has spoken of the
American presidential campaign, saying his favorite, if I may say so,
says Putin, was the incumbent President Biden. But he recommended

(25:25):
that his supporters support Miss Harris, said Putin, adding quote,
so we will do the same. Commentators noted that Putin
was smiling, grinning widely as he said this bit of a.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
Joker is latly all right, every good weekend. We'll see
you on Monday, just before we live. By the way,
the Harris campers agreed. Apparently the weirdest thing on this debate.
They've agreed to the muted micro rule. I thought they'd
agreed to all the rules of the previous debate, and
then they decided they wouldn't agree. And now they've decided that,
well agree more probably more importantly, Biden's expected to announce,

(25:56):
by the way, that he's blocking a takeover of US
Steelmaker by Jap. The company are. It's a huge deal.
It's fifteen billion dollar deal. They announced it a while back.
In fact, it was announced last year Nippon Steel and
US Steel they were going to get together. It would
create one of the world's largest steel companies outside of China.
Investors loved it. It was going to save the company
because the US steels in a pile of pain. Not

(26:18):
that the unions can see that. They're up in arms now.
So Biden's going to block it. The shares are down.
Trump and Harris actually would block it as well. So
watch for that one in the next day or so.
Nine to seven, the.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Make Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Talk said be.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Queaky of Elon Musk as Richard was a couple of
moments ago. I think he's announced overnight. I don't have
it in front of me. But I think he was
claiming overnight that the fully driverless car is going to
be available I think at least in Europe, not other
parts of the world, the next year. And that's not
going to happen. Of course he just says it is.
They're two different things. Starlink is now in the last
stages of getting operational licenses across the Pacific, while they

(26:53):
haven't been able to do that so far. I don't
know because people have been smuggling them in. So people
from the Islands go to New Zealand, Australia from Starlink
bring them back into the country. Solomon's have got one
and or got the license the Cook Islands as well Samoa.
The regulators expected to approve it any day. I would
have thought that that's top to toe, salt all your problem.
I'm a big Starlink fan. Best thing Elon's ever done

(27:15):
is give the world's starlink. It works in war zones,
it works in rural New Zealand, it works in the
Pacific when they get it there. So it's a good, workable,
tangible idea far more workable than tangible than the driver's
car five minutes away. From seven all the inns.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
And the outs HiT's the fizz with business Tiber take
your business productivity to the next level.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
And in full disclosure, in a piece of raar honesty,
I am quite keen on buying a cyber truck. I've
got to be honest. I've looked at it. It's so cool.
I think I want to buy away. You can't get them.

Speaker 9 (27:49):
I think you're the only person in the world who's
ever said that.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
No, I think they're brilliant. I think they're potentially bringing
NFL season begins today, a good game this afternoon to
open the season. Chiefs Ravens sport of courses on a
mess of growth surge at the moment, but few sports
more successful than the NFL. Valuations average to own a
team one team ten point four billion billion values in
the last twenty years gone through the roof media deals

(28:13):
are the current agreements worth an average of fifteen billion,
which is eighty five percent more than the last deal.
When you add all the streaming deals that they've made
as well, the income jumps to about twenty billion. It
was ten billion the last deal, so it's doubled. All
thirty two teams share the sponsorship, the licensing, they collect
thirty four percent of the ticket sales. Last season, the

(28:33):
average team generated revenue of over a billion dollars a
year each and every team. So what are some of
these teams worth? The loser team, the worst team, not
that they're necessarily that way on the field, but they
just value them different ways. Of the Bengals, Cincinnati Bengals,
they're worth eight and a half billion. Twenty years ago
they're worth one billion, so they've gone from one to eight.

(28:53):
The most valuable team in the world is, of course,
the Dallas Cowboys. They're worth seventeen and a half billion dollars.
And the great story about the Dellas Cowboys is that
Jerry Jones bought them for two hundred and forty million
dollars back in nineteen eighty nine. And when he brought
them for two hundred and forty million dollars back in
nineteen eighty nine, they were losing a billion a month,
million a month or other one and a half million
a month. They were losing. And so now they're worth

(29:15):
seventeen point six billion dollars. And the big talking point
at the moment is what to do with them? How
had he because a lot of them are owned by families.
How do you pass it on one of the Texas
It's become a mess. Detroit Lines worth eight billion, Kansas
City Chief that's Patrick and Travis's and Tay Taste team
nine point seven billion, Seattle Seahawks nine point eight, Philadelphia
Eagles eleven point two, The New York Jets with Aaron

(29:37):
Rodgers eleven point eight, The Giants useless team but worth
twelve point six billion dollars. Let's talk about building a
house in this country and whether or not we can
make it simpler and cheaper. More on that than us
which is next?

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The
Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate, your local experts
across rest ssidential, commercial and rural US tod sad be.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
Falling seven past seven to access to a greater range
of building materials. As a step close to the Building Amendment,
Build has been introduced to Parliament. This is the one
that came out of the jub shambles a couple of
years back. The Building and Construction Minister is Chris Pink. Chris,
morning to you, good morning, of all the things you
guys are doing around building, housing, land, et cetera in
this country. Where does this sit in terms of importance
and effectiveness do you reckon?

Speaker 20 (30:24):
Well, look, I think it's pretty important and pretty far
At percent of the cost of construction is in materials,
so we can make a difference to that. But then
it goes alongside all the work that for example, Chris
Bishop's doing and freeing up the land in the first place,
and other stuff that's going on in building a construction too,
around processes trying to make it easier and more affordable
and quicker to builds and houses in this country.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
How much theory versus reality is there? In other words,
are there a pile of products that are just sitting
waiting to come to the country that never have been
that will flood the market and suddenly the price drops, Well, look, I.

Speaker 20 (30:56):
Mean that would be optimistic view. I think obviously we've
got to be realistic about the tech that there are
barriers that exist naturally to importing products in this country.
So we're a long way away. We've got a small market.
We're trying to make it a market. There's a bit lesson,
by the way, by encouraging a bit of activity, so
that again that's part of the overall picture of trying
to make it eatsier and quicker and cheaper to build

(31:17):
in this country. So look, it'll be somewhere between the
perfect world and what we've got now, but it'll be
a step in the right direction. And certainly it's going
to be about price, but also a little bit of
innovation and competition. It'll make people sharpening pencils here because
otherwise they would fear that people would find it worth
your while to ship a lot of products from Australia
and the US and wherever else.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Small irony here. This comes a day after the final
reporting to Grenfell in Britain. What's to stop the sort
of products that cause Grenfell coming into the country and
be put on houses.

Speaker 20 (31:47):
Yeah, lot, very fair question. So our requirement is that
the same standards or higher equivalent standards from overseas are
going to need to be met. So it's not an
exercise in reducing safety or quality or sustainability for that matter.

Speaker 7 (32:02):
It's saying that.

Speaker 20 (32:02):
If you're already at that equivalent level two Zealand in
countries that you know have equivalent standard systems, and by
the way, also that conditions in New Zealand are suitable
for the use of those products, then you're going to
be able to use them. Otherwise, you know, it'll remain
that the normal pathways for getting stuff checked that's going
to continue to apply, which is.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Very slow in numbers, some much as a speaking of
slowne Comerson, as I mentioned, jib was twenty twenty two.
How come does legislation take so long? How come we're
still here now and it's still not pass and I'm
assuming we'll be lucky to have this pass by the
end of the year.

Speaker 20 (32:33):
Well, look, I can't for the previous government, but certainly
that was a golden opportunity that they had to do
something about this product that, to be fair, people have
talked about for years in the past. The board shortage
or crisis of a couple of years ago was just
the most obvious and well known example. So we've moved
quickly on it having come into government and we've got
legislation that is that yesterday has been introduced to the House.

(32:56):
You know, we'll do that as quickly as possible, but
at the same time, because the detail is important for
green cell tower. Another related reason, we're not going to
shorten the legis sort of process. So you know, in
terms of us coming in in moving quickly, we've done
that and we know that people are really looking forward
to that coming into effect.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Go well, have a good week in Chris Pink who's
the building construction Minister? Ten minutes past seven scale if
you can believe that the concept of ethnic priority appears
to be back in our health system. So we've held
a scheme in Hawk's Bay. It's been allowing fourteen to
twenty four year olds to receive free GP visits Act
in our claiming Mari and Pacifica are being prioritized for
that scheme. The Health Minister has asked the local officials
for an explanation. Orkan the University Medical America's emeritus professor

(33:35):
Das Gorman's with us stairs morning to you coome onring.
So my understanding this is a deal between Healthhawks Bay
and the local primary health So is it our business
or the minister's business or the local business? Do we
have an issue here or not?

Speaker 16 (33:48):
Oh? I think agregating risk to the level of race
makes no sense whatsoever. If you'd believe there are inequities
in place which are driving inequalities you don't solve that
by doing something which generates another set of iniquities or inequalities.
The modern approach to healthcare, Mike, is to focus on
the individual's individual families in need and to put resources

(34:11):
in place that they need to actually improve or recover
and do well. But the minute you start aggregating risks
to the level of race, you've lost focus. And what
it means is that someone like me who identifies who's Mara,
who has a fucker Pubbet and Rpu and Marta Curri
has priority. But some struggling Asian family who are really

(34:31):
in desperate need financially and their kids of high health
needs are not primoritized. Now that's just an iniquities. So
what this represents, Mike, is the intilligence of what we
should be doing. The whole approach of the social investment
is not to say the problems otai who the problem is, Mari,
The problem is the family mind monastery, otah who we

(34:53):
need to put resources in place so that specific family
and the next is not doing this, Mike. We know
who these people are, we know where they live, and
there's only a matter of finding out what sort of
specific solutions they need to meet their specific needs.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
How is it we've got ourselves down this rabbit hole?

Speaker 16 (35:09):
Oh look, I think it's a mixture of virtue signaling
that I am also I think lazy thinking. Basically, well,
Mary have less access and do poorer in terms of healthcare.
Therefore let's prioritize Mara as if that's a dispect group
of people would defined boundaries exactly as a very sagmorphic group,

(35:30):
which includes people like me. So I think it's amazy
thinking in virtue signaling.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
Do you think within your experience within the health system
that people defend it? I mean, bright people work in
the health system, do they using their brain power and
intellect actually defended as workable? Because I remember Chris Hepkins
got himself in dreadful trouble. He used to go, well,
a lot of mari are rural. Access to health is difficult,
which is true, but it's also difficult whether you a maor

(35:56):
or not. And he seemed to get himself tied up
on this. Everyone's in a knot over something that seems
to be incredibly simple to explain, and yet we still
do it. And I don't get that.

Speaker 16 (36:04):
But yeah, look not why I'm like to be honest,
I don't know if people deviate from the very simple
task of identifying need and addressing need and then get
confused with all sorts of social phenomena And I don't
know what this is, this propensity to move away from
the obvious, which is where is the greatest need and

(36:26):
it addressed the greatest need before you know who these
families are, Like, we know who these individuals are, we
know where they live. There's no excuse for not being
with them and saying what do you want when it
comes do you want then working together to find specific
solutions for their specific needs. Instead what they get my
because they get a recipe or a menu of services

(36:47):
which frankly don't make their needs at all.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
No exactly good to have you back on the program.
Does appreciate it very much. You have a good week.
In des Gormant Auckland University Medical Emeritus profession Professor. It
is fourteen past seven. Looks from Health New zeal And
Regional Manager Living Well Allison Russell. Zero fees. Healthcare is
funded for all children up to the age of fourteen
years across New Zealand. We have worked with Healthhawk's Bay

(37:09):
to reset the qualifying criteria to ensure financial sustainability of
the service for our most vulnerable young people across Hawk's Bay.
So far, so good, nothing wrong with that. From September one,
eligibility will be limited to young people age fourteen to
twenty four who are currently holding a community services card
fair enough, currently reside in a quintile five area, and
or have a diagnosed long term condition, including but not

(37:32):
limited to, diabetes, renal disease, cardinga basketa blah blah blah
once again not a problem, or Mario Pacific hoarnor so
up to that point medically no problem at all. Suddenly
race comes in. Why next point is this? It's all
very well for act to jump up and down about
this and go this is not right. Actor and government
do something about it. Fifteen past the.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Hike, asking Breakfast full show podcast on iHeartRadio, how it
By News Talks.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
It'd be welling, Mike. Why people like Professor Des Gorman
running health in New Zealand instead of those and sane
people are ideologically possessed well, hopefully Lester Leeby's who's not
ideologically possessed as doing a good job and slowly but
surely cleaning those people out. By the way, Allan Lickman,
who I got a bit of time for. He's an historian.
He has has famed thirteen keys to the success of
the White House. He's got it right every single time,

(38:24):
including Trump and sixteen when very few people picked it.
So he's this morning worked as thirteen keys. Finally he's
come up with his prediction. I'll get to that later
on Clwitz Harris Mike, I get a bit of pushback
on the cyber truck, but I explain why it's Harris,
because there's some logic behind that. Mike, just been in
the US last week, saw a handful of cyber trucks,
unbelievably horrible. You're a man of class, correct, don't lower

(38:46):
your standards. I've looked at the cyber truck long enough
to believe, Yes, I don't even know that it's ugly anymore.
It's either one of two things. Either it's so ugly
it becomes fascinating, or it's usual it's not ugly, and
that part I can't work out. But nevertheless, I'm intrigued. Mike.
If you think you like the cyber truck now you

(39:07):
should check out Whistland Diesels YouTube channel, which I will
put a cyber truck up against the bad American pickup.
That's good viewing. That's my weekend sorted, Mike. The cyber
truck is awesome. They're just awfully big and not that pretty. Yeah,
they are big. That's the biggest part of why I
like it, Mike, C sixty three or a Mustang. It's
not part of what we're talking about. Stop them, by
the way, for all of this cost of living crisis,

(39:29):
you hear in the media, and I like to do
these stories because it does remind us that that what's
presented in the media is not always a true reflection
of society. So at the moment, you'd think that no
one can afford their groceries. We certainly can't afford to
turn the power on. We're all broken with third World,
which in some aspects we are. But I read also
this morning with a great deal of interest, that we
have households. You and I have put an extra two

(39:50):
point one billion dollars away in term deposits in July
July alone, two point one billion dollars, A lot of
money just piled it away. The high interest This is
all to do with the RB. Of course, in the
interest rates coming down, the amount of money held in
term deposits has gone up by one point six ods.
So this business of no one's got any money simply
isn't factually isn't true. We do have money and we're

(40:12):
putting it away. Term deposits have risen one point six
percent over the month to a record one hundred and
thirty six billion dollars. And that's just in savings accounts,
not the ones in the market's not the stuff tied
up in houses. It's just in savings acount. Fifty five
percent of all household bank deposits are in term deposits,
which is up from thirty eight percent. So we've seen
the opportunity gone. The interest rates are good. They're probably

(40:34):
as good as we get well bank. It simple as that.
Let's mark the week in a couple of moments. Seven twenty.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
The Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Power
by News talksp.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Too of mic ons is that that dodgy button again
could be the dodgy button last time I complained about
the dodgy button. Somebody, do you want to name names?
They did the investigation, they dropped coffee down at god
all sticky and they put a new one in. Anyway,
where am I seven twenty three timed out to mark
the week a little piece of news and current events.
It's more exciting than Nobbie Clark at a potluck dinner

(41:09):
coffee seven.

Speaker 9 (41:10):
I don't know if we should be giving at seven
now that you said there.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Oh good point four, very good, eight ninety four, seventy five,
six twenty five. I reckon they could charge whatever they like, actually,
because we're so fixated with the stuff. Anyway toast two
wat a shat example of how you lose the plot
when you're down a rabbit hole. At thirty billion dollars
a year, Health's problem is not cooked bread, so stop
saying dumb things are The Grand Tour eight Telebastard.

Speaker 13 (41:34):
After all these.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Years, it's out this time next week. I've seen it.
It is well worth it. A Brazil three spanning X
is more about politics and cleaning up content. Not that
the content doesn't need cleaning up, but read dis Silver's
comments this week on Muscard. There is your clue there. Elon,
speaking of witch six, called out our Prime minister on
a Asia tour this week, ask yourself how many major
business leaders globally would have the slightest clue as to

(41:58):
where Luxon is right now? O zimpic six this week
it sorts covid. How close to a miracle potion is
the stuff? Are the all blacks? Four? Ten point leads
should never be surrendered, But the TMO one, it's that
inept if it gets in the way of a good game.
What's the point Retail spending five? Because although it's down

(42:21):
for another month, is not down as much? And then
sinile a seven more money familiar. They brought a sign
that the green shoots light at the end of the tunnel,
whatever you want to call it, is in fact evolving
in front of our very eyes. Are the outgoing treasury
head four? Anyone who advocates more taxes dangerous. But the
SMP report into our economy in debt three the current
account and council debt as bad as anywhere in the

(42:46):
whole world. And that is a lesson and a reminder
that once we get out of this not to head
back there again. Road funding seven. It was a long
time coming, wasn't it. Because we love roads, big roads,
white roads, roads that a loud to go place and
spring eight.

Speaker 7 (43:03):
Good.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
It is spring. Okay, we had a warm winter, lovely
warm winter, longer days. Daylight saving is just a couple
of days away, a couple of weeks away. Life is good.
That is the week copies on the website and the
meta oversite board, by the way, is ruled. Marking the
week is uplifting, educational, and at its best actually a
spiritual experience. Asking some numbers from the police, this is

(43:24):
really interesting. Tactical options report. Force remains low overall. Nine
percent increase in force events seven seven hundred and nineteen
last year overall. But that's zero point thirty percent of
all police jobs attended. So you just do that and
that maths quickly. If seven seven hundred and nineteen is

(43:47):
zero point three percent, think about how much work the
police do worldwide. They note that other jurisdictions are seeing
an increasing trend towards violence. Gang members here accounted for
nine percent of the events as in the force events,
despite making up only zero point two percent of the
national population. Police are forty five times more likely to

(44:07):
need to use force in these interactions. Gang members are
more likely to be armed twenty five percent more likely
to be armed last year. There's been a slight drop
in the number of incidents involving firearms by offenders where
police were also required to use firearms. Police discharge of
firearm only seven times last year, discharge only seven times.
Taser events. Now, this is interesting because all the whales

(44:29):
are said, are it's going to be dreadful. The number
of taser use or the amount of taser use has
not changed between twenty eighteen and twenty twenty three. Now
to mention Mark Mitchell, here, Maray continued to be over
represented in the use of force events by police. Maray
account for half of them, percentage of the population, half
of them. As Mark Mitchell says, the police don't choose

(44:52):
who they deal with, so that whole bollocks about the
institutional in built racism within the force is exactly that right.
What's got going to do is he sorted? I mean
putting body on the bench. Should I raise that? Is
that awkward anyway? Scott robertson from South Africa after the News,
which is next here at News Talk Seed.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
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Speaker 2 (45:24):
Cody after right twenty three minutes away from it. It's
let's have another correct time this week end for the
All Blacks as they line the South Africans up and
the decider in Cape Town in the early hours of
Sunday morning, New Zealand Time All Blacks coach Scott robertson
with us, Good morning, I.

Speaker 21 (45:36):
Help it from South Africa.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Well, it's it's very good. How's it been for you?
Talk us through the week.

Speaker 21 (45:43):
Yeah, I look to change your room. Been in a
few changing rooms, man. That was there was a tough
one that was a lot of heard got heard, and
it got about sick people, players and staff and management
and you can I mentioned we put everything into it
and we didn't give the job done and you got
turned the page pretty quickly and on the Monday we
funked it up. We'll get better and we got on

(46:05):
with it.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
How exposed have you been this week to the commentary,
the noise, the local expectation, all of that stuff or
have you kept yourself away from it?

Speaker 21 (46:15):
I haven't picked on so many apps, to be honest
with you. Look, of course, I don't know it's going
to be there no matter what happened. Really, so look, look,
I'm just doing everything I can. Just work for the
team and work for the all backs and that's my focus.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Good on you. The difference between Ellis Park and this
weekend Cape Town, the size of support all that, Does
that make any difference at all or not?

Speaker 7 (46:39):
Oh?

Speaker 21 (46:40):
Man, Ellis Park is someplace that it's an experience and
a half. Mic, I don't think there's anything that you
can compare that to you. But although I support it
down here, as you know, the the cape of right
behind us for so many people at are training and
there there phanetics, so I'll there'll be a different feel.
It's a totally different vibe than Bean up there, but

(47:01):
still still a rectangle. It's still going to be as
fierce as it ever has. You know the spring Box,
you know, they when they roll up, they roll up.
So from from the point of view, in the atmosphere
of view, doesn't matter when you go in South Africa,
they know their rugby passionate. Doesn't matter what color, gender
they are, they are into it. So look, it's going

(47:23):
to be another health test.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
Men.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Are you able to given what happened last week? Are
you able to embrace in the guys able to embrace
the environment because you could argue these are the two
best sides in the world, the exponents at this particular
art and that's to be actually that that's exciting.

Speaker 21 (47:40):
Yeah, well that's the challenge you want, you know, like
we've it's seven or deep tones a share and they
just experienced if they never would have done before you
had before, to go and do it here against a
team that's you know, got clear DNA. You know they
want you know, they want the ball off, the petrol

(48:01):
will stop, so you know, they want a game where
it just goes into an arm wrestle and a grind.
And so there's so many factors. Is the referee, the interpretation,
the laws, you know they can play on top of
your things. Games swing so quickly and so you know
you've got to learn really really quickly. And it's been

(48:22):
a great experience for us to tour. Normally tour you know,
my kids, but this is a genoine two block tour.
You know, normally play a team to back, so that's
unique in itself.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Exactly. Speaking of which, the South African head of rugby,
let's look this this talk of this tour in twenty
twenty six, eight matches, three tests. Is that something you
would relish it'll.

Speaker 21 (48:42):
Be an awesome Yeah, it isssu forties, but they you know,
if it does come along. But the concept's awesome, you know,
like touring bit of old school to it. You know,
you've got a group of sixty odd midweek and just
that they said genuine white touring, you know, two bigest rivals.
So it's something gets you know, it's a throw back

(49:06):
in time, but it's just what you need right now
and we're Rugby.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
To talk us through. You talked about the changing of
the side, the changes you're making, and some of them
are young guys or new guys. What do you tell
them and why are you experimenting to this level at
this particular point of the tour given you know, many
people would argue, just put your best players on the
field that you know, can you know, live up to
the expectation and the tension.

Speaker 21 (49:31):
Yeah, there's a bit of a balance to that, you know.
Like obviously we had a couple of injuries with Deep
and and Caleb playing great footing stuff on them. They
disappointed out said they wanted to play and we just
see so much in these young these young players, and
to give them an opportunity, you know, like that's what
said later for you know, they don't go and play them.

(49:53):
You know, look, Courtious played a lot of rugby with
the neck.

Speaker 7 (49:57):
You know.

Speaker 21 (49:57):
It's an exciting young player. And we can finish with TJ.
And obviously we're bothing and his role in his experience
and what he's done when he's come off the bench.
So we believe we've got a great balance to set
these guys up to succeed and and go and play.
Are talented?

Speaker 2 (50:11):
Good? How are you enjoying it? We haven't talked since
you've got the job. You know you started out in
the job. Have the all blacks got the full razor
imprint yet?

Speaker 21 (50:22):
Look, because it's the first of everything. Everything is the
first everything you do, the first test match, you know
that your first your language, how you set it up,
how I do my mindset stuff all the on field,
how you run a week? You know, the first tour
that you've got. So once you've done that and goes,
I've got it now because everyone's so sort of guessing

(50:44):
what there's a match yet to what your feet when
you walk into everywhere that we've got so your present
everyone's like, oh okay, so there's a lot of now
that's all done. But you do no matter how much
preparation you do, you really only learn when you've got
the job. And it's as we know, it's all a
big job, but it's still about people. It's still about

(51:05):
you know, trusting your instinct in just stipping forth and
doing the right things. So it's a big the hell
of a job, the hell of expectation and responsibility comes
with it. And the look I enjoyed, I'm just going
to continue to.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
Be myself my best thing you can possibly be. Will
go well this weekend. Always good to talk to you
any good Scott Robertson out of South Africa for us
this moment. Now, I've uncovered a scandal that involves the
state broadcaster, Radio New Zealand. You and I pay for this.

(51:41):
Radio New Zealand is a Radio New Zealand, Radio New Zealand.
They're not what they worgling. But because they're not what
they were, something nefarious, underhand and possibly dastardly has been uncovered.
The exclusive detailales next sixteen to two.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
Good The Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio
powered by the News.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Talks at me right oh fourteen a away from it.
Here's a bit of insight into how the radio industry works.
Yesterday morning leads story Matt Doocy on the Mic asking Breakfast.
Matt Doosey was due to ring in. Matt Doocey's nowhere
to be seen. At about five minutes past seven. We
go to as what's happened to Matt Doocy? We start
chasing him down. Turns out the person in his office
had written down the wrong number for him to ring,

(52:30):
so obviously immediate in confidence and needs to be dealt
with forthwith to the basics. Brilliantly, I thought was the
National Party? It's not so. Anyway, he rings the number
that's written down in front of him. Person answers the
phone Hello. He goes, Hello, It's Matt Doocy reporting for
the Mic Hosking Breakfast, to which he hears the words, oh,
you no longer have an interview on the Mike Hosking Breakfast.

(52:53):
He goes on, what's unusual, hangs up, and he disappears. Anyway,
we eventually track him down and put him in the
Whose phone number was that? Whose phone number was that?
That phone number belonged to Radio New Zealand. So Matt Doocy,
Minister of the Crown, rang up the state broadcaster as
funded by you, and I threw our tax money and
said Matt Doocy reporting for the Mike Hosking Breakfast, to

(53:15):
which point they said, you no longer have an interview
with the Mike Cosking Breakfast. Now that's not true, of course,
that's a lie. They lied, They made it up and
they lied. Now several questions for you. One, do I
secretly admire them for being so quick witted that they
first thing they do is instead of going, oh, you've
probably got the wrong number, or whoops, you've rung radio
in New Zealand, sorry, they say you no longer have

(53:37):
an interview with the Mike Hosking Breakfast. That's quite sharp,
to be honest. Probably worth looking into employing that person,
whoever they were, because there are some people here aren't
remotely that sharp. Second, is it underhand?

Speaker 16 (53:53):
Third?

Speaker 2 (53:54):
Is that just competition and that's life? And would we
have done the same thing if we were alerted up
to do the same thing? Fourth? Is it just pure
straight up and down sabotage? And you shouldn't line make
stuff up that isn't true. What are your thoughts on this?

Speaker 9 (54:08):
Fifth?

Speaker 2 (54:09):
If we find out and I can who the person is,
should I name and shame them? Thoughts please?

Speaker 11 (54:21):
Sex?

Speaker 3 (54:22):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Sorry?

Speaker 9 (54:23):
Should we just ring them?

Speaker 2 (54:25):
Yeah? But they won't be the same that it's a
general line. What if it's someone different?

Speaker 9 (54:28):
Seven?

Speaker 2 (54:29):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (54:30):
What was it?

Speaker 9 (54:31):
Russian state interference?

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Very good question? Hard to tell? Was the a bird
in the background?

Speaker 9 (54:40):
Eight? Is there like, you know, an anchorman? Yes, instead
of like an internewsroom rivalry? And eventually we'll have to
go down to the oh yeah, you know, to the
basketball court and with our aeriels and our zip guns
and have a fight.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
You no longer have an interview with the Mic hosking
Breakfast Click.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
Tend to Wait, the mic hosting Breakfast with a Vida Returnment,
Communities News, tog sad.

Speaker 2 (55:13):
B seven Away from It So Wellington, They're at it again.
Shell Lane, which is just off the Terrace, has had
a bit of a makeup. Part of its new bike
rack holds twenty four bikes. Apparently the cost is half
a million dollars. In fact, it's more than half a
million dollars. It's five hundred and fifty thousand dollars. The
Wellington City Council of Diane Kelbot's with us on this. Diane,
very good morning.

Speaker 7 (55:31):
To you, Good morning Mike.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Just for clarity's sake, is the lane five hundred and
fifty thousand dollars or just the bike rack?

Speaker 12 (55:38):
Well, the bike crack was around about one hundred and
twenty thousand. But to put the bike rack in they
needed to make the footpath wider, and then they also
put some CCTV cameras in, and then they need to
put some power to the bike rack. So all and
out it costs sort of round about five hundred and

(55:59):
sixty two thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
Do excuse me, why do you need power for a
bike rack?

Speaker 12 (56:04):
Well, you need to have the cct that the camera's there. Okay,
look over twenty four bikes, which it seems quite bizarre
when we don't have enough CCTV cameras through this CBD
with lots more people.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Around, I'm guessing there aren't twenty four bikes. There's never
been twenty four bikes, am I right?

Speaker 12 (56:22):
Well, look I've been down the last few weeks and
either there's the most spikes I've seen there is one.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Okay, one bint, so twenty three gets so pay plenty of.

Speaker 12 (56:33):
Park and fifty meters up the roads the council's building
and there's a public bike rack outside and that's never
full right.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
How is it the stuff happens from your experience?

Speaker 12 (56:46):
Well, it's it's probably hidden away in some budgets that
we never see the light of day. But I mean,
obviously an example like this, we need to make sure
we've got better transparency because also this is a half
a million dollar budget as it's turned out to be.
But if we think about the Golden mar and Thornton Key,

(57:10):
which are millions of dollars, If we're doing this on
a simple bike crack, what on earth are we going
to be doing on those projects?

Speaker 2 (57:15):
We couldn't agree more. Are you cognizant that Wellington's dead
has in Wellington City's debt will go up by ninety
one percent this year from three years ago to one
point eight billion dollars?

Speaker 21 (57:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (57:27):
I think it was around about one point eight one
point nine billion.

Speaker 2 (57:31):
And when we are talking about half a million.

Speaker 12 (57:33):
Dollar bark cracks, well I do. But for Salmon, I've
been really surprised by some of my colleagues reaction as
if they're not really that concerned, which is really concerning
to me because we just had a twenty percent rates
increase and literally I've got residents saying, we can't afford this.
You know, we're on fixed incomes, we can't afford this,

(57:55):
and we are spending half a million dollars on a
bike crack that's not quired in that particular area.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Do you find your life frustrating as a council of Diane.

Speaker 12 (58:06):
Absolutely absolutely, But you know somebody's got to keep on
with good fight.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Yeah, that is true. You have a good weekend. I
appreciate your time, Diane Calvert. I couldn't stand it. I'd
rather shoot myself. Wellington's debt up by ninety one percent
to one point eight billion, HUT up by one hundred
and thirty nine percent to five hundred and thirty nine million,
and PORI rue is up by one hundred and forty
three percent to three and fifty five million. Okay, let's

(58:31):
get to the r N zigate. Third, No, don't text.
And third I can't remember what third was because I
make the stuff up.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
It was.

Speaker 9 (58:38):
It's just a commercial reality, and I've probably done the.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Same commercial reality okay, number three, that's competition. No naming,
all right? Fair enough Radio in New Zealand cesspit of
die Hard Dernista's Like many government departments. I think it's
overly political. I don't think you need to go down
that track, although I might agree. Name and shame Mike, Mike,
Name and shame. That's two in a row. Mike, you'll
never find out who it is. Don't Radio and New

(59:01):
Zealand have like thirty five producers? Very good point last
year in the Radio Awars. Actually this year on the
Radio Awards, was it up to nineteen? I think they
got up to nineteen. Last year it was sixteen producers
per morning that's just Morning Reports, not Radio New Zealand,
just Morning Report, the one show. So they're up to
nineteen producers. So yep, finding them needle in a haystack,
totally out the mic. That's exactly what some lefty woke
would do. Paul, thank you, Name and shame Mike, Mike,

(59:24):
Name and shame much more fun. I think name and
shame wins, doesn't it.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
The newsmakers and the personalities, the big names talk to
Mike casting Breakfast with the Jaguar f base cut from
a different class. News talks edb.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
These days of wild thirty times and as empties. Guys,
what's the guy's name? Straits course, nothing sounds like Naughlin,

(01:00:02):
doesn't look.

Speaker 9 (01:00:03):
I don't think that's news. I think when it comes
to slowhand guitarists who can't really say, this is Dave
Gilmore at Mark notfler right, it was news to me.
Eric claps there as well.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Well, I think Eric's a little bit better than this.
I'd put Eric in a different league to this. This
is Dave Gilmore, who once upon time was a member
of the band any Much. His fifth solo record a
band well you didn't have, Yes only as third of
the twenty first century, so he's not exactly pumping them out.
He continues to tour, He collaborates widely. He advocates for

(01:00:35):
numerous just causes. This could be my CV donated the
money from selling his home and guitars to charity. Anyway,
this all sounds a bit self indulged for me, to.

Speaker 11 (01:00:44):
Be technically honest.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
It's called luck and strange and there is eleven tracks,
but here's the twist, sixty one and a half minutes
worth of music. But the final track is just sheer
indulgence at fourteen minutes.

Speaker 9 (01:00:58):
Well, that's classic thing, Floyd, doesn't it says?

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
I suppose Oh that was the band, wasn't it you?
I remember him only it's the original Barney the Week.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
In Review with two degrees fighting for fear for Kiwi business.

Speaker 2 (01:01:11):
Mike who provided the wrong number, mistake or collusion stip
straight to the Minister's office. If it's collusion, this goes
all the way to the top, almost the top, because
Matt Doocey is not really the top, but there's in
the cabinet of its collusion. Tim Wilson's with us good Morning,

(01:01:34):
and Kate Hawksby's with us good Morning.

Speaker 22 (01:01:38):
I'm still in shock that one of the nineteen producers
at Arenz would be quick enough to say that. And
do we know they actually you sure they didn't just
say no that we don't have an interview with.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
You no word. The words have come back from Matt
Doocy quote unquote because we put the wires on them
and we water ordered him and we said you tell
this straight up and our mate and he said, the
words were you no longer have an interview with the
Mike Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 4 (01:02:08):
That is that is I'm staggered.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
I'm staggered too that they had the wherewithal to do it.
I think that's why I'm not angry, because I who
someone's and that that's news to me. That's good, that's good.

Speaker 15 (01:02:29):
You should have given Did you give them the wet
telephone book as well?

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
I don't know what to do about it. It's I mean,
I could take this place, as I reckon, I could
take this to the B s A. All thet take
it to the B s A. I can't be bothered
with the paper.

Speaker 22 (01:02:43):
Who because surely that person needs a promotion, because they
must be the only person in the building.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
I reckon, you see that's wet and would you wear
a future.

Speaker 7 (01:02:53):
Producer.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
They'll be listening because everyone at radio is listens to
this to work out how to do good radio and
so well.

Speaker 4 (01:02:59):
Really only to criticize it later.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Yeah, but oh no, they've got they've got to do
that publicly but secretly. One of the edicts that went
out to post the survey period they said, you've got
to listen to Hosking to work out how to do
it properly, and so they all have to tune in
for a minimum of twenty minutes a day, and so.

Speaker 15 (01:03:16):
That's more than U Kate, that's more than you listen
to it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Anyway. The word I'm getting back is that they're thoroughly
enjoying it and they want to introduce a few elements.
And so if you get the call from them, don't
be surprised if they're looking to replicate some of the
stuff here.

Speaker 15 (01:03:35):
Now we can review completely unscripted, like a circus of
drunk people.

Speaker 7 (01:03:40):
But don't worry.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
We're with you exactly. We're here exactly now. Oasis ticket
Tim tremendous upset and up excitement at our house over
the success of us gleaning four tickets to the Oasis
concert next year in Manchester. Now, but really I'm not here.

Speaker 15 (01:04:01):
I'm not hearing that in your voice, Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Well, not just hearing, because the advice I'm seeking do
you put yourself in our position, so young person's got
the tickets, do you, as a parent look to accompany
them on the trip and ji on the whole experience.

Speaker 22 (01:04:17):
Because just just let me tell you this, Tim, we
got the news late overnight from the daughter who'd been
online for three hours and we'd gone to sleep, so
she texted all caps. Oh erg got the tickets. So
I wake up Father's Day morning and I say to
Mike just as he opens his eyes, well guess who's
going to Manchester.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
And he's like not me, and I'm like, yep, we
gotta go.

Speaker 22 (01:04:44):
And the daughter are both no way, you're not coming.

Speaker 15 (01:04:50):
I think, yeah, look, you should go. It'll be an adventure.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Just do it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:56):
Sort of advice is that that's pretty good advice.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
The count The counter term is you've got to let
them spread their wings, raise the money themselves, go out
and get a job, book their tickets, book the accommodation.

Speaker 7 (01:05:10):
Totally.

Speaker 15 (01:05:11):
No, I'm not saying I'm not I'm not saying thunder
whole damn thing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
But you've got to go to the concert.

Speaker 15 (01:05:15):
But what she's finding it okay, fine, fine, so get
over there, get into the mosh pet make her embarrassed individuations.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
This is what makes it even more pathetic because we
don't have tickets. The four tickets are for her free.

Speaker 11 (01:05:30):
Well I don't go.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
Sorry, I thought you had tickets.

Speaker 15 (01:05:33):
Tickets we would just literally go and you drop them
off and pick them up.

Speaker 2 (01:05:38):
No, all of these kids, well they're eighteen, they're adults
will be eighteen at concert time, so that we add.

Speaker 11 (01:05:45):
A and get themselves there.

Speaker 4 (01:05:47):
It's a big trip by themselves, and it's.

Speaker 22 (01:05:48):
A long way away, and you know time zone and
you know there could be trouble.

Speaker 4 (01:05:53):
It's an oasis consonant Manchester. For goodness sake, any mother
would worry.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
Surely we'll take feed on this as well more in
a moment thirteen past eight.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
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Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
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Ask Kirsty Alsop what she'd do. It's a very good.

Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
Point, you know what she'd do.

Speaker 22 (01:06:21):
Look, look, be honest here this is just basically a
little entree THEU to pinishing a trip to London.

Speaker 4 (01:06:29):
Isn't it for the parents? Well?

Speaker 15 (01:06:31):
No, no, Look i think I've got the solution.

Speaker 11 (01:06:34):
I've got this.

Speaker 15 (01:06:35):
What's what's the UK correspondent Gavin Gray doing that night?
He can pick them up and drop them off.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
He lives quite a way out of London. He'd find
that to be inconvenient. I've had a beer with Gabon
and he's.

Speaker 15 (01:06:49):
A trustworthy person.

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Oh he's trustworthy, don't get me wrong. And he paid
for the beer too, had a pint of London Pride
just below the Ferris Wheel in London. Mike, how much
were the four tickets? How much were o? Katy was
at three grand for four?

Speaker 4 (01:07:03):
No, it wasn't that much, actually, yea it was.

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
It was.

Speaker 15 (01:07:07):
Oh my goodness, that's Aki Sweat. I always do this,
we have three grand. It's Azuki Swift, one of those
kids really want.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
That's the ticket tech ticket master scam where they create
and there's there's an investigation by Parliament and Britain over this.
And what fascinates me about that is it's almost like
they've never held a concert in Britain and never sold
any tickets before because they've been surprised by the ticket
master thing, whereby they jerrymandered the demand, therefore boost the price.
Therefore everyone pays more than they want to pay. And

(01:07:37):
that's just the way tickets have sold forever. As far
as I can work out, that's surge pricing for you. Katie, omg,
you have had old children for crying out loud. Let
them into the wild. Are you going to twin rotor,
Russian tank lifting helicopter them right up there. Mothers always
worry counterbalance at Katie. Mothers always worry out of the age.

(01:08:01):
Sometimes you just sometimes you just have to trust and
let them fly. That's from gen Who's I think on
your side?

Speaker 22 (01:08:08):
Okay, I probably wouldn't worry so much if she wasn't
going to an Oasis concert in Manchester.

Speaker 4 (01:08:14):
You put those two things together. If she was just
going to the UK, it might be all right. But
Manchester and Oasis and the crowd Oasis brings with them
makes me slightly worried having said that, I'm not going
to go to Manchester myself.

Speaker 15 (01:08:25):
So ah, for goodness sake, have you got any trustworthy uncles,
aunt relatives, anyone you know that Could's what.

Speaker 4 (01:08:31):
We're working on. There is a son living in London
and we are worth That's what I thought.

Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
Yet the word being trustworthy there, Tim, that's the That's
where we're still working on. Take the foot pines or
two of that London.

Speaker 15 (01:08:44):
Get Gavin Gray to give them a pints or two
of that London.

Speaker 7 (01:08:46):
What was it?

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
London pride. Can't beat London pride. Take the foot off cap.
My son flew to South Africa. So you worried about Manchester.
My son flew to South Africa at nearly eighteen. Took
a leaf out of Kirsty's book.

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
There you go, that's impressive. That's good. Look it's not
it's not easily letting go of the last child. I
tell you what. It's not easy. After five of them
and she's.

Speaker 11 (01:09:05):
The last leave.

Speaker 22 (01:09:06):
It's very you know, it's quite traumatic as a parent
when you're youngest is finishing up school and venturing out
into the big wide world.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
You've got all the still at four to two.

Speaker 15 (01:09:17):
That's because you have to paying attention to that schmuck.
You're married, that's the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
That's true. Do you know. I sit here, I've never
been more enthused about our future life together because you
do read those stories about the couples when the kids
leave home and stuff that they look at each other
and go on Jesus in a way to marry you
and then it all falls apart. There were some stats
out the other day on divorce.

Speaker 11 (01:09:40):
Oh that was divorce.

Speaker 7 (01:09:41):
Yeah, yeah, and did.

Speaker 2 (01:09:42):
You read those it's at fifty five plus. The percentage
goes up and it's based on the fact that the
kids leave home you look at each other realize you
shouldn't have been married in the first place, and then
you get divorced. Whereas I've never been more enthused about
spending the rest of my life with Katie.

Speaker 9 (01:09:58):
You get a dog though you we have the dog helps.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Yeah, I suppose that's true.

Speaker 15 (01:10:04):
Now, I don't think those stats apply to people who
married at forty five, So I agree with you. I've
never been more in love with my WiFi. She's just amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Well, there you go, Mike. Admittedly you're the pre eminent broadcaster,
but do you really have the resources to find out
who this Finke at Radio New Zealand is? I almost can.
I almost doubt you can. They will close ranks, they will.
I think Mitch is right.

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
I think an oia could be.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
That's excellent question. Release all phone records on the day
at the time. That wouldn't even take very long. Your producers,
which one of the nineteen picked up the phone.

Speaker 7 (01:10:46):
And went.

Speaker 4 (01:10:48):
She was on the other foot. It would be so easy,
because you've got one so exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
I got the single producer whose name is also.

Speaker 15 (01:10:56):
Had a Pakistani producer at Rady in New Zealand.

Speaker 4 (01:10:59):
I did love your bird calls behind. That was very good.
That was very funny and very true. He is there
a bird in the background?

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Anyway, I've got to I've got to know. Oh quick question, Tim,
how many record shops? So there's an ad for the
Dave Gilmore album right on our show this morning, and
I just played Dave Gilmore and it says available now
at a record shop near you. In fact, a good
record shop near you. How many record shops you are?
You reckon? They were left in New Zealand? Two right,
That's what I said. And do you know how many

(01:11:27):
there are on k Road alone in Auckland.

Speaker 11 (01:11:31):
That's true?

Speaker 4 (01:11:32):
Final collection is huge?

Speaker 15 (01:11:34):
Yeah, well it's yeah, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
Actually.

Speaker 15 (01:11:37):
Actually the other thing is I saw a piece about
books are coming back because people are abandoning abandoning devices
because they actually want artifacts.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
I don't think books ever went anywhere, did they? Thought
books have always been popular and the Kendall never took off,
and we love books. But I'm pleased to hear that
that's the case.

Speaker 15 (01:11:54):
Five yep, No five five shops in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
No five record shops and k Road alone. Okay, anyway,
you have a good WEEKND.

Speaker 22 (01:12:06):
No one can go to them anymore because k Road's
just one giant bus lane finnily enough.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
That's exactly what I said off here to people. It
says they can't get there given the places closed down.
But that's that's for another day. Hey, do you just
quickly and I know I'm going on too long, and
you watch this Katie Anna delviy is the name ring
of Belly.

Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
Yes, yes, of course.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
Yeah. So guess what she's doing.

Speaker 4 (01:12:27):
She's doing. I know what she's doing. Is it dancing
with the stars.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
She's doing Dancing with the stars. She's a convicted she's
a convicted felon, and she's going to be on Dancing
with the Stars with an ankle bracelest yeap hollow rings.
Reality television got.

Speaker 9 (01:12:43):
Well, and then you've got another convicted president.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
So you know that's actually Glenn makes a very good
point there, doesn't.

Speaker 15 (01:12:48):
It Maybe not according to the latest, you.

Speaker 11 (01:12:51):
Know the latest.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
I'm going to get to that mine. I'm going to
get to that right listen, I've got to go. You
to just be quiet, you kick me to It's eight
twenty three.

Speaker 1 (01:13:02):
The Mike hosting Breakfast with the Jaguar Fpace News Talks envy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
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Speaker 7 (01:13:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
The reference to Enna Delby is of course inventing Anna
was a Netflix smash. Her real name Anasauric and she's
a con woman. So she's competing and dancing with the
stars with an ankle bracelet on. That would have been
a new low, I would have thought, Mike. I went
to Liam Gallagher at Nebworth two years ago. It was carnage.
No cops or security ardhead over there too if they
were Mike Kidston. So it goes by the way. Bill

(01:14:17):
Shorten out of seemingly nowhere yesterday quit Australian politics. The
Prime Minister who never was. Will get the detail from
Steve Price's with us right after the news.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
The Breakfast show you can trust the Mike Hosking Breakfast
with Bailey's real Estate, your local experts across residential, commercial
and rural news togsad be.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
Michael went to oasis when I was fourteen in another
country and a fake id whatt an experience. Now thirty four,
it's impressive. My matelift school at seventeen, fleu to Alaska,
got a job in an Alaskan pipeline. Thank you, Lawrence. Mike,
go to Manchester, go to visit the Coronation Street set
in paorl Pint. I've done that. One of the great
frills of my life. In fact, I've done it twice
in the old set. They did an old set, the

(01:14:57):
original set Grenada Television, and then they moved to a
brand new, purpose built set, the only soap opera program
in the entire world that had a specifically built set
for that show and that show alone. Most sets are interchangeable,
so they move walls and rooms, create root, all that
sort of stuff. Coronation Street built their own twenty three
minutes away from.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
The international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 16 (01:15:22):
That's the street, right, How are you or are neighbors?

Speaker 7 (01:15:25):
Have you been to the street?

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
Never been to the neighbors? Ramsey Street?

Speaker 7 (01:15:30):
Ramsey Street?

Speaker 2 (01:15:31):
Where is that? That's in Melbourne, isn't it?

Speaker 7 (01:15:33):
Glen Waverley and Melbourne.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
I went to I've Got a Life. I'n like you,
you know that's true. What I went to the Mooney
Pond Street? Where was what's the Mooney Pond Street where
day Med and Avidge came from.

Speaker 7 (01:15:44):
Uh yeah, just Mooney Pond. So I come down.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
I went to the street that was That was quite
something because I love Dame d and Reverage and anyway,
where was I Bill Shortened.

Speaker 7 (01:15:53):
It was that out of the blue, pretty much out
of the blue. Yes, no one had predicted it. And
he kept it very quiet and for good reason, because
he was one of the number of candidates to become
the next vice chancellor of the University Australian National University
based in Canberra. What do you think a vice chancellor
of a university in Australia has paid.

Speaker 2 (01:16:14):
Six hundred and seventy five thousand.

Speaker 7 (01:16:16):
Dollars one point one million Australian dollars he'll be on
when he takes up the job. In February, former Labor
leader of course, lost the unlosable election to Scott Morrison,
then never really recovered. He then got sidelined. Anthony Alberize
became Opposition leader and won in an election and he

(01:16:37):
gave his old mate Bill short And of course Shorten
comes from the right of the Labor Party and Anthony
Alberanzi's from the far left. He gave him the job
of fixing up the National Disability Insurance Scheme, which was
about the cen Australia broke. And so I figured Bill,
who's married, by the way, to the daughter of the
former Governor General of Australia. He gave his friend and

(01:16:59):
Bill the job of fix that, and Bill's looked at
that and this has got here. However, I'm not going
to be doing this forever. And someone said, why don't
you become vice chancellor of AMU and we'll pay you
one point one million dollars. He's going to stay around
to February. He's going to recuse himself from cabinet decisions
on higher education. There will be no by election, so

(01:17:20):
I think that solves the question that you've been asking
me all year. Women the election. It's going to be
after February, so it's probably going to be an election
in May next year.

Speaker 16 (01:17:28):
You would think.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
Good luck to him. And then we've got the union
price and this thing won't go away. And I'm assuming
from the union's point of view the ongoing court action
isn't helping their mood.

Speaker 7 (01:17:38):
No, it's not. And John Setka made from the CFMAU.
It's turned up two big built sites in Victoria this
week unannounced, addressing up to six hundred workers on one
of those sites. So even though he's been sacked as
the boss at the union and the CFMEAU construction arms
in administration set could just around doing whatever he wants

(01:18:01):
to do. But the bigger problem for the PM is
that they've been warned that another bunch of unions are
going to work against the government in any election. Now
you've got one hundred thousand members of a union called
the Communications, Electrical and Plumbing Union. They voted yesterday to
disaffiliate from the ACTU because of what's happened to their

(01:18:24):
mates at the CFU. Now, unions donate huge amounts of
money to labor, but more importantly, they donate feet and
boots on the ground during election campaigns, like they have
people knocking on doors, handing out how to vote cards
and being quite intimidatory some stages during election day on
the boots. So if the union movement completely pulls the plug,

(01:18:47):
that'll be a big advantage, not for the opposition necessarily,
but for the Greens. This is going to be one
hell of an election.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
Let me tell you, I reckon, Hey, would you be
still in town because you're about to go on holiday?
Will you still be in town for the protest next week?

Speaker 7 (01:19:00):
No, I'll be on a plane out of here very
early tomorrow morning. This protest is going to be massive.
It's something called the Land Forces Military Expo. It's going
to be held in the Exhibition Center, which is right
in the middle of town. It's known as Jeff Shed
because Jeff kennot good and the police have been given

(01:19:21):
extra powers Mike. They can actually now demand that anyone
in that protest has to remove a face mask and
identify themselves. Now, these are powers the police haven't had
in the past. We've all seen the pro Palestinian protests
around the country and most of those protesters wear masks
to hide their identity. Well, police will be todd up.

(01:19:42):
You can do whatever you want to do. This is
going to get extremely Ugly's why they're holding an expo
like that in a public place like that is completely
beyond me. The police resources required as huge and it
will get very nasty and indeed, and I'm not looking
forward to reading about it while I'm away.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
King Island Dairy. Is this an individual story in terms
of they didn't run the company very well? Was this
sort of more broad base to the Australian economy.

Speaker 7 (01:20:13):
Maybe the latter, but it came as a shock to
me yesterday. I Mean, I'm not a huge cheese consumers,
but King Island brie. We all grew up on that cheese,
and King Island itself is an absolutely sensational place. It's
out in the middle of a bat strait, and of
course what they've got there now was a couple of
really sensational golf courses. But Saputo, which you would know, well,

(01:20:33):
the massive dairy company, the Saputo company, has decided, well,
we can't make a profit out of King Island Dairy
and so what we're going to do is shut it down.
And so their range of cheeses go. A lot of
jobs on that island are connected to the dairy itself,
and so it's not good news for anybody, especially someone
like me who loves a nice bit of soft King
Island brie.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
Exactly. Yeah, I have a little bit of fetter. When
you get to Greece, where are you going all about
Greece or just to a place in Greece?

Speaker 21 (01:20:58):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:20:58):
No, everywhere? Or five islands on the mainland in.

Speaker 2 (01:21:01):
The car have you been lived on?

Speaker 7 (01:21:03):
Next week, I'll be sitting sitting down, probably having a
Greek coffee, playing game of backgammon, having a Greek salad, little.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
Little ritzina you ever had ritt sina?

Speaker 7 (01:21:14):
Yeah? Tastes like quick at that shocking.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
So have you been there before?

Speaker 7 (01:21:20):
I was there in nineteen seventy seven when Elvis presently died.
So that gives you hell.

Speaker 11 (01:21:24):
I won't have help.

Speaker 7 (01:21:28):
Not your favorite place.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
It's like my sister lived at Santorini for a while
or one of those islands, and she she doesn't speak.
I mean it's nice in the sun. I mean you'll
get a tan and you know, have three weeks a
long time, Steve, you don't want to go to somewhere
modern like I don't know London or Rome or Milan
or no. Thanks fair enough? That good on you? All right,
go well mate, we'll catch up in a couple of weeks.
Appreciate it pretty much as Steve Price Out of Australia

(01:21:51):
sixteen too.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
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Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
In Away from was Puckle Street. Mike Truth, as he
came from Camberwell, only said it was Puckle Street because
it sounded funny. I'll take you with it. That that's
Dave Midner. Not sure where you were working at the time, Mike.
You interviewed Dave Gilmore back in eighty eight, when the
Floyd did a one off at Western Springs minus waters
on their monetary lapse of reason to a momentary laps

(01:22:19):
of the reason to I disagree with you. I don't
think I've ever interviewed Dave Gilmore an eighty eight. I
would have been in Dunedin either at Z b F
zed BE as it would have been called then, or
four exit, one of the other fires. At four EX
I certainly wouldn't have interviewed, and possibly if I at ZB,
I might have see you may be right, always open
to correction. So Allan Lickman, speaking of being correct, has

(01:22:42):
predicted he's become this nostri damer So what they called
the nostri Damas of the electoral system in America. He
picks everyone right, and he's got these thirteen keys. I'm
sure you've heard of him anyway. The thirteen keys are
all sorts of interesting things. Mid term gains, incumbency, primary contest,
third party, short term economy, long term economy, policy change,
social unrest, white House scandal, incumbent charisma, challenger charisma, foreign

(01:23:04):
policy failure, foreign policy success. And this goes back or
it's based on one hundred and twenty years of presidential
election outcomes, so he called Trump in twenty sixteen. He
became particularly famous at that point because very few people
outside of those who are obsessed were picking Trump to
actually win. And having been there in New York in
twenty sixteen at the Center for Hillary Clinton, I can

(01:23:27):
tell you no one in that room thought she was
going to lose until, of course she did. So he
uses these what he calls keys, and the keys are
either true or false. So the White House Party gained
the House seats is one of his keys. In other words,
in the midterms, So the midterm key, the White House
did better than many people thoughts, So that's a key
in favor of Harris. Incumbency as a key covers the

(01:23:51):
sitting president running for reelection. Biden, of course withdrew. So
that cost the Democrats this particular key because it's false.
So you can't have the key yourside because the incumbent's
not running. The White House Party avoided a primary contest
as part of the nomination process. That's a third key.
The short term economy, he says, or he argues, at

(01:24:11):
the moment, is strong. It's not in recession. That's a
key in the incumbent's favor. The long term economic growth
during the current presidential term has at least been as
good as the last two terms. Therefore, the long term
economic key is true. So you're building up the number
of keys in terms of Biden slash Harris. Social unrest
key is true. The scandal key, he argues, the controversy

(01:24:34):
surrounding Hunter Biden, for example, doesn't count within the scandal
key as it has to revolve around the president themselves,
not a family member. Donald Trump's has lost, rendering the
Democrats this year's winner is his conclusion. Trump cannot lose
he doesn't have enough keys. The incumbent charisma key is

(01:24:54):
a very high threshold, as the individual must be a
one in a generational broad inspirational candidates, so they don't
get that Harris hasn't met the standard. The challenger charisma
the eleventh key just because some people see Trump as
a god, he only appears to appeals to a narrow audience,

(01:25:15):
meaning the key is true. However, foreign policy, the foreign
policy keys could flip the whole outcome because the Biden
administration is deeply invested in the war in Gaza. But
even if both foreign policy keys flipped false. That would
mean that there were only five negative keys, which would
not be enough for Donald Trump to regain the White House. So,
in other words, reasonably comprehensibly, he is picking Karmela Harris

(01:25:40):
to win the election and he has never been wrong
nine to nine.

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right now, and I'm open to changing my mind obviously,
because it's very fluid right now. I think Harris will
win an. I think moderately comfortably five away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
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Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
Probably they've gone and launch the latest action camera. It's
called the Hero thirteen black looks the same, but the
big noise is accessories. They've got a new magnetic Amount,
which I like. I don't have a go Pro and
I've got no interest, but if I had one, I'd
think a new magnetic amount would be quite a cool thing.
So you can change your tripods and your harnesses and
all that stuff a whole lot faster. The big news

(01:27:28):
is you've got lenses, and the lenses can come on
and off for a whole different look for the evids.

Speaker 13 (01:27:33):
So you get a slight blur in the background.

Speaker 7 (01:27:36):
Kind of cool thing.

Speaker 9 (01:27:37):
Not something that I personally would use though, but good
option to.

Speaker 11 (01:27:41):
Have if you want to make your action camera shots
look a little bit different.

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
So this is what looks like with the ultra wide
hyper view, which is just wild.

Speaker 7 (01:27:50):
Wow do you see this?

Speaker 11 (01:27:52):
Oh my god, take a look at my nose?

Speaker 7 (01:27:56):
What they can basically just join hire studio just by
doing this.

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
Whow Okay. So that's a guy called Peter Lindgren, who
I'm assumers known to the authorities. Maybe not. So there's
a macro lens for close ups, a super duper ultra
wide lens. There's a whole lot of other lenses creates
cinematic styles and effects. The Hero thirteen Black that's available
pre order now for seven to fifty. I don't know,
it's written down here not bad. I don't know whether

(01:28:21):
that's bad or not.

Speaker 9 (01:28:23):
Still, you know a lot of tech, you know, what
can you get for under a thousand bucks for some
cool tech. I just sort of think that's that's reasonable.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
So is that you saying it's not bad?

Speaker 9 (01:28:31):
Yeah, okay, that's me saying it's not bad.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
Okay, if you buy that for seven to fifty, will
you still be able to afford your new car?

Speaker 9 (01:28:39):
It might be an either or situation.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
Lenses are extra. There are about two fifty ish.

Speaker 9 (01:28:44):
They've got this call anamorphic lens as well, which is
like the big one l like you see on movie cameras. Really,
so you know when you look at the sun and
you get that flaring effect.

Speaker 2 (01:28:53):
And that's on your bike, on a go probe, Yeah,
on your head. So you're walking around with an and
I'm not.

Speaker 9 (01:28:58):
As big as the one on the movie cameras.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
You're walking around with an anamorphic lens. Did you say
it was.

Speaker 9 (01:29:03):
Gonna make you look cool while you're wearing it? I
said it was gonna make your videos look cool.

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
And you're the sort of person who would buy those goggles.
Zuckerbooks peddling as well. I bet you have an awesome weekend.
Back on Monday, as always, Happy Days.

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