Full Show Podcast: 10 June 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:13):
Be Morning and welcome today. We are back in the
oil and gas business as the government confirms they're pulling
the legal trigger. They also have announced to pull out
of emergency motels in Rover Ruer. We look at the
Scott Watson trial of course. David Seymour on aiming for
fifteen percent in twenty twenty six, Cameron George are the Warriors?
Are they opening in Vegas next year? We got the
legs in the commentary box from Richard Arnold and Steve
Price are a big part of the game as well.

(00:35):
Pasking Welcome to the week, seven past six. When you
watch the Warriors Saturday night, it's increasingly hard to explain
just what it was that went wrong. A month or
so back, I mean four weeks, eight points and we've
beaten the Cowboys, who started on the table higher than us,
as well as the Dolphins and the Panthers, two of
the best sides in the competition. Up until the slump,
we were one of the best sides in the competition,

(00:56):
and after these last few games, I think order has
been restored. We still we going to have all our
players back, and yet the depth of the side has
been on display as we showed the Cowboys what it's
like to be thrashed. Are the commentators kept to It's
the weirdest thing. Commentators kept talking about the quality of
the Cowboys side. We're fifteen minutes to go. They were
working out that they would have five sets of six left,
and if they scored on each one of those, they'd

(01:17):
be back. They talked tous though this was a possibility,
even though the rest of us had the game done
before halftime. I mean, we scored early, We kept scoring,
We looked fast, look creative. We were like the side
of old. We're now a point outside the eight, to
three points outside the four. We've got Melbourne to come.
Once upon a time could have been an issue. Not anymore.
In totality, We've seen the season enough to know I

(01:37):
think this is a real deal. Sight the winds early,
the winds of the past month far outway I would
have thought. The trouble we saw unfold for an unfortunate
couple of weeks. Whatever happened and why has been fixed,
and we now not only have a string of victories,
but the prospect of the remaining a team coming back
to bolster resources. As the old saying goes, of course,
it's how you end that counts. You want to build

(01:58):
into a season, not show it all in the opening weeks.
The thing about the Cowboys win was it was comprehensive,
It was unrelenting. We looked like a completely superior side
to them. We looked like not just a side that wins,
but a side to be feared. We looked like the
Warriors have and should look like. We look like this
could be our you.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
News of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
As we've told you already, the body of Michael Mosley
has been found. And this is the man who wishes
it wasn't the way it was.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
He wish I never got the sort and.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
I'm really sorry from the tributes are flowing.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
I don't think there's anyone in broadcasting like Michael, to
be honest, it was the way that he made the complex,
broke it down, took away all the mystique, a mystery
about science.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
On the campaign trail, a couple of things new poll
out by the way, I'll give you the numbers shortly.
But the lib Dems are under pressure around costings of
their health policies.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
We've been announcing a number of our health and care policies,
whether it's more GPS, where it's more beds, whether it's
supporting carers, and each time you've done that, to be
fair to us, we've said where the money is going
to come from.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
And then the Tories are still saying sorry for the
idiot leader leaving d Day early.

Speaker 6 (03:18):
The Prime Minister has accepted that he made a mistake.
He has apologized unequivocally for that, and I think he
will be feeling this personally very deeply, because he's a
deeply patriotic person.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
The Israeli are still celebrating the risky of those hostages.

Speaker 7 (03:32):
I want to thank the Idea for the incredible operation,
for all the commanders, all the soldiers, all the decision
makers decided to do this operation.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
And in support. Kaitlin Clark is yet again dividing American sports.
She has not been picked in the twelve women squad
for the Olympics.

Speaker 8 (03:53):
So well the kids in Africa and Europe who will
see number twenty two want to buy the jersey and
would watch and then maybe go out and shoot baskets.
An empowering moment for girls and women that has been
totally missed by this and I believe it is a
terrible decision.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Mate.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Finally forget the old modern tech more and more returning
to these dumb phones. We've got research from offcoms in
the UK. Of course, they found an increasing number of
adults and teens indeed swapping their smartphone for something they
can just calls and text them. That's it's like the
good old days to limit the amount of time that
they're actually on their phone and on social media. And
it means the old flip phones are making a comeback.

(04:28):
Are There are stories popping up in the UK and
indeed the US stores they only sell low tech devices.
There's a new tree US of the World. In ninety
Mody is being sworn in. He got there in the
end that Democratic Alliance. This is the Indian election. Of course,
he runs the BJP, but they got the BJP lead
National Democratic Alliance. They collectively in the end got two

(04:50):
hundred and ninety three, way lower than they thought, but
enough to govern. So he's sworn in for a third
consecutive term their five year terms, so the guy's going
to be around a while. The receipt UGent Indian opposition
ended up with two thirty four, So two nine and
three versus two thirty four. It was way way closer
than they thought. Twelve past six, my costume breakfast. How

(05:11):
do I overstate there will be no cabbage in this country?
But how do I overstate the mess the Australian media
is in at the moment, culminating this morning with the
resignation of the chairman of the board of Channel nine
for a couple of reasons I won't go into now,
but I'm glad Steve Price, as well as Peter Costello,
who was a very senior political figure for a number
of years before he ended up as the chairman of
the board. Anyway, he's quit this morning and that is

(05:32):
just part of a very long list of calamitous behavior
in that particular part of the world. More later sixteen
make it fifteen pass six a by you A diamond
rush away the morning from Devon Fund's management Brig Smith.
Morning to you. How about those jobs, jobs, jobs everywhere?

Speaker 8 (05:49):
Ye?

Speaker 9 (05:50):
Good news for the US economy. Complicates picture for the
FEED though, So yeah, the US economy added two hundred
and seventy two thousand jobs in mate. It was well
above the estimates f one hundred ninety thousand and will
also apriles revised one hundred and sixty five thousand gains.
So yeah, arguably count as the fears of a slow
on the labor market, but also reduces the need for
the FED to lower rates. So you look at the

(06:10):
job gains, healthcare, government, leision, hospitality, that's all consisting of
recent trends. In fact, those three sectors more than half
of gains. Also, if FED won't really want to see this,
wage growth continue to push up, so up zero point
four percent on the month, four point one percent from
a year ago. Though interesting though that despite all that,
sexual unemployment rate ticked up to four percent, So MIKE

(06:31):
hasn't been there since January twenty twenty two, so it
does seen a bit of a mixed message.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
A labor full.

Speaker 9 (06:36):
Participation rate that was down slightly. Number of people report
holding jobs fell by over four hundred thousand. You have
full time workers they were down by six hundred and
twenty five thousand. You had part time workers shoot up
almost three hundred thousand, so you was seeplenty of new
jobs might but some of the old ones are going.
So I suppose some industries are cutting back as the
economy softigns. All a bit of a dial emma for

(06:57):
the FEED. They meet this week, so we'll hear what
JPOW has to say on the matter and also get
that FED dot plot. But market's currently pricing in fifty
five percent chance of a rate cunt and September, and
that's down from seventy percent before the reports, so it's
looking more like a coin flip. Also gonna be interesting
to see, I think what the feed makes of es
central banks are doing. So you've got Sweden, so what's
another already ease and last week we had a Bank

(07:17):
of Canada ECB they cut rates for the first time
in years. So there's implications on trade competitives and if
you look at it might be surprising. Canada's almost seventeen
percent of US exports, Europe's around about twenty percent, so
you know the US is already running trade deficits. These
could get worse. Affections by the central banks to value
their currencies. Will the feed remains on hold, So yeah,

(07:38):
it's all plenty for the fed.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
Schewn tell me, as a serious investor, why people look
at Roaring Kitty and pay any attention to this nonsense
not only once but again when it comes around.

Speaker 9 (07:50):
Yeah, it's all a bit weird. I mean, it's nothing
to do with fundamentals. So yeah, it's just about momentum
what people are posting on social media. And this This
is Keith Girl who's known as raw and Kelly, and
he's back. We haven't heard from him since the pandemic,
but he's back sort of posting screenshots of his brokerage
portfolio shows that, you know, if he exercised all his courptions,
he's got a billion dollars worth of stock. And this

(08:11):
is really getting likes of GameStop in particular, Moving training
has sprung to life in recent weeks. He scheduled his
first live stream on YouTube for all much years almost
four years of this day in game stock that's sort
of fifty percent. On Thursday, he had his YouTube sort
of spiel and then people said, I always he shouldn't
say that much, particularly new so she has went down

(08:32):
forty percent. So he reveals he's made fifty million bucks
on paper during one trading season he's still got around
about a half a billion in shares, And it's not fundamentals. Might,
You're absolutely right, it's more about his popularity on social
media interesting, whether he attacks, attracts, and he sort of
regulatory scrutiny sec apparently evening looking to sort of get

(08:53):
involved in a look at it not told you when
explicitly the bygamestop shares has just posted the memes and
give some short video clips, et cetera. Some connection, you argue,
is either Warren Buffett will probably probably not probably vastly
vastly different, vastly different. But I suppose he's been seen
as a modern day Robin Robin Hood. I mean, hedge

(09:14):
funds lost a fortune during the pandemic those it was
short likes of game Stop and others. And yeah, if
you got regulatory scrutiny, would people sort of get behind
him even more in terms of his followers. And for
what it's worth, if we want to talk fundamentals, might
the video game retailer game Stop, they were porting numbers
on Friday. They made a quarterly loss of thirty two
million US dollars, but it was down from fifty point

(09:34):
five million a year ago.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Quarterly sales.

Speaker 9 (09:36):
They dipped a point nine billion. So yeah, vision game
stop looks a bit like jumping on the roulette table
really at the casino, certainly making for a white knuckle
ride for.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Those on board. All right, give me some numbers, okay.

Speaker 9 (09:48):
So we've got the US marks actually stepped back from
record levels but had a winning week. The dow down
point two percent thirty eight to seven nine eight, and
na's that down point two percent, seventeen one to three
to three. S and P five found a down point
one percent, five three four six, forts one hundred and
a half percent, Nickey down point five percent, A six
two hundred up point five percent, NZ fifty down one percent.

(10:08):
Gentiles obviously provided a bit of momentum earlier in the week.
Gold down eighty two bucks two and ninety four and
ounce oil that was pretty flat, semi five spot fifty three.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
US currencies q is week.

Speaker 9 (10:20):
Across the board, sixty one point one against the US,
ninety two points seven against the A dollar also down
one percent against stealing forty eight pence. We'll get there
for a QI dollar this week, Mike. We've got some
use inflation numbers. We've got that fed meeting. We've also
got the Benkage Pantherck home card, spending, business PMI and
food inflation.

Speaker 3 (10:37):
Now the busy week. Appreciate your expertise, Greg Smith devon
funds management task. The good news out of China, and
we'll take all the good news out of China we
can get given our relationship with them. Exports rows seven
point six percent in May. That beat expectations downside. Imports
rose one point eight They wanted four point two, so
that was a massive miss. But at least they're spending
some money. It is already And by the way, the

(10:58):
Chinese I noticed want our help with joining the CPTPP
and I'll work you through that later if we get time.
Six to twenty one, we're at Newstalk cent.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
The Mike Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Mike Hartter cowboys have come off the Origin game. They
were flat oh dank giving the professionals. What can I
tell you about the European election. The polls closed shortly
Thursday through Sunday. Most people are voting today Slovakia. An
official polling carried up with the party suggests the Samir
Smea Sama are beaten into second place by the Chief
opposition rival, the PS. In other words, what we're seeing

(11:37):
as a shift to the right. Close are voting in Austria.
Trend forecast far right Freedom Parties one twenty seven percent,
Conservative People's Party twenty three percent, Socialist Democrats twenty three percent.
If that's confirmed, it'll be the first time the Freedom
Parties come in first place nationwide in a vote. In
Austria midday local time poll and they're not interested, turnout

(11:58):
was eleven point sixty six percent last it was fourteen
point thirty nine at the same time. Poles, and here's
the rony. The Poles are the most positive about the
EU than any other member state, and yet they can't
be bothered voting. Indeed, there were a lot more people
taking part in the ten k race outside the local
voting station where the reporter was standing. And three of
the four European elections held since Poland joined back in

(12:18):
two thousand and four, turnouts failed to exceed twenty five percent.
The Dutch are seeing a move to the right Builder's
Party and the Immigration Party. Of course, they had an
exit poll. They went on Friday, our time, and they
got They predicted to have won seven seats, one less
than the Labour Green Left combination. So in other words,
Viilda's party has won, so they closed twenty one GMT.

(12:41):
So what's that is that eight or nine or ten
something like that. It's mid morning our time, and then
we'll get a real feel for whether the prediction, the
general prediction that things in Europe will move significantly to
the right, whether any of that is true.

Speaker 10 (12:54):
Sex twenty five trending now with chemist Wells keeping Kiwi's
healthy year.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Around nine o'clock this morning our time, officially TikTok with
a bit of a twist, We've got a one hundred
and one year old d Day veteran, Jake Larsen. He's
gone viral after his granddaughter took some videos of him
at Normandy.

Speaker 11 (13:12):
You know it's not me, it's my granddaughter. She put
me on TikTok with her and I said, what the
hell is tik TikTok. She said, oh, it's just just
a storytelling thing, she says, and I put a couple
of your stories on on my TikTok. She came back

(13:35):
within the week and said, Papa, I'm taking you off
of my TikTok. I'm going to put you on your
own I said, you're over there, can of worms here.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
He's now got over a million followers, which he doesn't
manage of course, and his Daytay appearances have received on
average fifteen million views.

Speaker 12 (13:56):
Right, but does he dance?

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Does he dance? And that's the key by o way,
the if one Liam Lawson is in, I would imagine
an element of trouble if you're following F one and
what's happened with the seat shuffling over the weekend. But
we'll have more on that later with the lads. Montreal's underway.
The weather forecast Montreal is pretty much as far as
I can work out, what it always is. It's raining
and then it's not raining, and then it's raining some more.
So the race so far has been shambollack, to say

(14:19):
the least. So we'll keep you updated with that throughout
the morning. After seven o'clock this morning, Shane Jones, it
is oil and gas. We are back in business officially.
Watson's back in court call of appeal. David Seymour. He's
aiming for fifteen percent in the twenty twenty sixth election,
but he's got some he's got some issues around culture
at the moment, so he'll address those as well. He's
with us a halfter seven thirty on the Myke Cosking Breakfast. Meantime,

(14:41):
the news is next here at Newstalks eDV.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
The newsmakers and the personalities the big names talk.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
To like my Costing Breakfast with a Veda Live the
Age you Feel news talks.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
eNB Norris just overtook for stapp and with Geniu and
Speed and Verstapan will be squealing like a baby on
the radios. Something's not right. But Russell, who started the
race this is Montreal in Pole on Pole, is now third,
so he hasn't got the pace either. And it's that
wet cold, wet cold thing, wet, dry, wet dry. It's
currently dry ish, but more rain is due, so there

(15:19):
is high drama. Speaking of which, another exit poll out
of France this morning, l'a Penn's party, if the exit
pole is correct, as won thirty percent of the vote.
They've never got anywhere near as high as thirty percent
of the vote. Macron's party fifteen, the Socialists fourteen, the
far right Reconquest five and a half, left wing France
on bout eight, the Greens five point two. The significance

(15:42):
of that as you need five in the European vote
to get into the European Parliament. Turnouts fifty one percent,
a little bit higher than last time, so this moved
to the right is most definitely. On twenty three to seven,
there's Lady Hostages. What a story that was over the
weekend as well, Richar Dart with all the details for it.
Shortly meantime back home, perhaps not surprising that we've got
a damning report into Orphan's boarding houses or can council

(16:04):
inspectures They found of the forty four properties suspected to
be breaking the law, forty while operating unauthorised trendsing and
accommodation for boarding houses. Also found government excuse me, government
agencies were recommending clients move into the houses in which
many had issues like fire safety breaches, gang affiliated guests,
owners questioning council authority. Professor of construction at aut John

(16:26):
TOOKI is with us, John morning to you, if you
had to wrap a word around that, what would you use? Disastrous, embolic, hopeless,
It looks.

Speaker 13 (16:35):
Like lots of adjectives, but I'm going to go for
not that surprising.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Yeah, well that was my next question because if I
said to you, Now, these boarding houses, what do you reckon?
I mean, we'd all say they look like they're poorly run,
and as it turns out they are well.

Speaker 13 (16:50):
In fairness, you know, you've got a simple selection of
forty four or whatever it was that we thought were
going to be crap, and sure enough they turned out
to be crap. And you know that that's not entirely surprising.
You've got a scenario where you've got a lot of
folks who they are at the b men's. You know,
it's a it's a tough economy to deal with at
the moment. People are not necessarily prioritizing upkeep and so

(17:11):
on and so forth.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
Exactly surprise. Is this a rules thing whereby the rules
aren't adhere to all the authorities overseeing the rules don't chicken.
Therefore we end up where we have.

Speaker 13 (17:22):
The rules are totally appropriate for what's necessary. It's a
it's an adherance issue. And that the when it comes
to authorities recommending accommodation and so on, that smacks more
of old lists that have not been updated and not
been brought to broad up to date with the most
appropriate new stuff. You know, in terms of issuance of certifications.

(17:45):
So you know, I think there's a bit of a
left hand right hand bit as far as that side
of it is concerned. It's not surprising when so many
fail that we expect.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
You to fail, you know, And can we say, really bluntly,
it's because probably no one keys.

Speaker 13 (18:00):
I think it comes down to a priority issue. I
think that's probably the most charitable description. And this comes
relatively speaking down the list. The problem with that, of course,
is the fact that we are talking, as we saw
with the fire last year. You know, we are actually
talking lives potentially on the line.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
Exactly is anyone going to do anything about it? Will
they do another report in a couple of years, and
the same thing's going to happen.

Speaker 13 (18:22):
Well, when you're dealing with polinemic issues like, for example,
filling in potholes, which is you know, it's a big issue,
don't get me wrong, but when you've got number one
priority because of the electoral zeitgeist, you don't expect these
sorts of rather mundane issues to be addressed as a priority.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Good on you, John, appreciate your insight. John Tucky, who's
the professor of construction at aut twenty minutes away from
seeing the paskime logan, sergeant's just driven off the track.
He's really good at that. It's one of the things
he's already done at once in this right, Yeah, exactly,
It's only he did it over the weekend in practice
as well. It's one of the things he's brought to
the team, the ability to leave the track. Look at him,
Look at him, Look at him. He looks absolutely distraught.

(19:03):
I mean, that's a guy who's lost his job anyway,
not officially, but he won't be back next season. So
what you do when you're under pressure and James Vale's
the team manager comes to you and goes, logan, really
you need to pull your back together, is not put
the car on the fence yet again. So we've got
a safety cow in Montreal. By the way, Kiwi fruit
very very good news. And I bought some kei for
it over the weekend. Some lovely yellow, and I saw
the red. Not very hard to get hold of the red,

(19:24):
but I found some red and that was good anyway.
Record crop absolutely brilliant, only small volumes left to be picked.
Record one hundred and ninety three million trays on average.
Each tray has got about thirty pieces of fruit ideal
whether it's been a fantastic summer, and they had the
labor and so that was some stark contrast contrast to
last year. So anything we can do to bring in

(19:46):
a bit of foreign revenue we will take with both hands,
thank you very much. Nineteen to two the mic costing
breakfast Mike, I'm an ex mental health nurse and boarding
houses there were nightmare and you put clients in the
recipe for disaster. UK Polar alluding to this Morning Mail
on Sunday even the Pols to say, look, be careful
with us Delta pole. So Keir Starmer's party Labour twenty

(20:06):
five point lead, the Conservatives will end up with thirty
seven seats. Silnek would lose his own seat quote unquote,
the pole should be treated with caution. So when the
Polsters are saying that Labor forty six, Conservatives twenty one
Reform on twelve, So I don't think it's going to
be anywhere near as bad as people or the Poles suggested,

(20:28):
as they're going to lose, but certainly not that badly.

Speaker 10 (20:30):
Sex forty five International Correspondence with ends an eye insurance
peace of mind for New Zealand Business.

Speaker 3 (20:37):
Richard states Ibry, good morning to you.

Speaker 14 (20:39):
Good morning is Raeli.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
As much to be happy about.

Speaker 15 (20:42):
Yes, freedom and deadly devastation feu together in this well
ongoing calamity. And now the latest centrist Israeli politician, Betty Gantz,
has just quit de Nettuno, who wore cabinet. He was
demanding some plan on ending the war, That's what he's
been saying in recent days. His departure will not instantly
collapse stin Netaniohu coalition, but most of the remaining members

(21:03):
are going to be hardliners. So how does all of
this hold together? US National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan today
says the United States supported Israel in the rescue of
those four hostages, but what was that US assistance? And
did the US know the operation would include massive air
strikes as it did and turn into the largest rescue
bid since October the seventh and the Hamas attack on Israelis.

(21:25):
Four hostages are released, but the cost enormous. The Gaza
Health Ministry says two hundred and seventy four Palestinians have
been killed. These are said to include more than sixty
children and fifty seven women. While one hundred and fifty
three children and one hundred and sixty women are said
to be among the nearly seven hundred wounded as well.
Hamas says that three hostages were killed in that Israeli operation,

(21:49):
including they say an American, and Jake Sullivan.

Speaker 16 (21:51):
Says, innocent Palestinians are going through sheer hell in this conflict,
and a lot of that is because Hamas has put
them in an impossible situation. Hamas hides among the civilian population,
holds hostages among the civilian population.

Speaker 15 (22:06):
Yeah, it is catastrophic on all fronts, but what was
the American role? Jake Sullivan refuses to spell it out.

Speaker 17 (22:13):
I'm not going to get into the specific operational or
intelligence related matters associated with that, because we need to
protect those I can only just say that we have
generally provided support to the IDF so that we can
try to get all of the hostages home, including the
American hostages who are still being held.

Speaker 18 (22:30):
Well.

Speaker 15 (22:30):
That leaves some of the big questions unanswered, doesn't it.
How much did the Pentagon sign on to this specific operation?
How much is Israel's netnia, who's simply ignoring President Biden's
call for ceasefile Netnia who is planning to visit Washington,
d C. On July the twenty fourth, at the request
of Republicans in the US Congress who are seeking domestic
political capital from all of this. While Biden has yet

(22:54):
to respond to whether he will meet with netnia Who
on that visit, the israel leader has used similar tactics
Back in twenty fifteen, Republicans invited the Israeli PM to
the Congress in defiance of then President Obama that was
on US around policy at the time. NNYA who always
seems to be walking that political type rope, and right
now he is under more pressure than ever. But so
as Biden, former US Ambassador Mark Ginsburg says.

Speaker 19 (23:18):
You clearly have American weapons that are being used by Israelis.
The fact that there are the significant munitions that are
being used is clearly a question. Raises serious questions about
whether or not the Israeli these IDF and particularly the
Natielle government is paying any attention to the admonitions of

(23:38):
the United States Pentagon or the President of the United States.

Speaker 15 (23:41):
Meantime, there are thought to be some one hundred and
twenty hostages still in Gaza, and perhaps thirty or forty
plus of those hostages have died no longer alive. Tony
Blink in the US city of State is heading back
to Israel right now, following the D Day ceremonies calling
for a ceasefire in the Gaza war, but so far
no sign of that happening.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
And then we come to the families of sand Hook
and Alec Jones and his liquidation.

Speaker 15 (24:02):
Yeah, you know, Jones has agreed to liquidate the website
called info Wars, where for years he's been spewing really
the most disgusting lies. This nutjob has been at the
forefront of many crackpot conspiracy claims, but probably the worst
was his accusation, repeated at nauseam, that the Sandy Hook
Elementary School massacre was a lie. Jones said, the massacre

(24:22):
of twenty six people, twenty of them elementary school kids
ages what six or seven was a plot to wintero
sale of guns, said Jones.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Sandy Hook. It's got inside job written all over it.

Speaker 18 (24:34):
Sandy Hook is a synthetic, completely fake with actors.

Speaker 12 (24:40):
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 15 (24:41):
That's more than enough of his byes. The thing is
some people took it seriously. He threatened violence against the
parents and other family members who already because suffered the
worst imaginable tragedy. So a dozen years on, Jones, whose
lies have brought him sixteen to twenty million dollars in
New Zealand, was fined by a court two point four billion.
Now is moving to shut down his operationtions impartial acknowledgment

(25:02):
of that. But before wrapping up his psychobabble, he just
did this online.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
I believe him out.

Speaker 12 (25:07):
I believe in my grandparents. I believe my parents.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
I believe it.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
You married me.

Speaker 3 (25:11):
I just want to stop these people.

Speaker 15 (25:15):
Yeah, oceans of tears seemingly blubbering over the loss of
money that he made by torturing the Sandy Hawk families.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Just unreal, alright. See Wednesday, Richard Donold stateside Bennon got
ordered over the weekend to federal judge ordered him to
steve this is report to jail by one July four
months sentence. So he's been battling this in courts. A
peels caught up up and down the place twenty two
conviction of for contempt of Congress they found to have
illegally refused to testify it before the committee investigating jan six.

(25:46):
He didn't show up and he's going to spend a
period of time in jail starting July one, ten minutes
away from seven.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Costing breakfast Withal.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
By the way, the UNRUNG money is going out as
of I think it's July we pay it. This is
the UN agency that was alleged to have taken part
in the Israel plot or the Hamas plot. We've investigated.
Apparently we never stopped giving the money because the next allotment,
which is a million dollars, wasn't actually due until July.

(26:18):
Having made the investigation done the investigation, it reflects assurances
they claim. Also this from Winston Peters that we receive
from the United Nations Secretary General. So the money will
be going out as normally. We also have this morning
from the weekend the beef and lamb people on farm
inflations down to two point eight percent, so we'll take
that all day long, large decrease from the previous year
sixteen point three percent. There are still some input prices

(26:41):
that are causing concern. They've risen by thirty two percent,
but you've got interest insurance, animal health costs they're still
going up twelve percent increase and interest costs alone. There
is relief though for fertilizer and lime and seeds that's
down prices down by four point two percent, so two
point eight percent still on the farm. And of course
there is increasing I mentioned this last week, there's increasing

(27:03):
concerned at the highest levels in government that farmers have
been dealing with banks that are no longer playing ball
the way they used to. This is sort of asset rich,
cash poor, and the farmer goes along, they say, can
you see us through with a bit of a loan?
They go not it, We're not interested in that. So
there's a building tension between the social license of banks
the rural community and also involves the government five minutes

(27:23):
away from seven, the ins.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
And the outs.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
It's the fizz on the Mike Husking breakfast on News
Talk said b toy.

Speaker 3 (27:32):
Industry is booming for the first time ever. Listen to this,
the first time we ever. A janfed March Q one,
adults bought more toys for themselves than any other age
through including preschools, which is usually the dominant market. So
market research from Sakana shows adults spent two point four
or five billion in the three months on their toys.
If you look further back they found it. Over the

(27:53):
last year, as many as forty three percent of adults
bought a toy for themselves, the top reason being personal fund,
socializing and for collecting. Socializing flows with your toy, where
you take your toy with you somewhere you're going out.
I'm going to a party. I'm taking my toy trading cards,
which is fair enough. It's a big deal in America.
Squishy mellows. This is the pathetic part. There's stuff toys.
Squishy mellows are just stuff toys. You take your stuff

(28:13):
toy to socialize. Unfatif arting with mar daft toy lego
fair enough. I only say fair enough because the boss
collects lega and that's not normal, and so if I
pretended to sort of semi normal, he won't sort of.

Speaker 12 (28:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 20 (28:27):
They're collecting it is collecting it when once you get
at home, you then build it.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
He pretends he buys it for his children, and then
he gets home, opens it up, and then is on
the floor and he presents the built thing to his
kids and go, look, kids, look what you made. And
none of that ever happened, because overall, toy sales declined
a percent for Q one compared with last year, but
there's still up thirty eight percent on twenty nineteen levels.
We got into it in COVID collector market has been

(28:53):
one of the big reasons for the increase of the
last five years. Barbie, does Jason click Barbie as well?
Or is that just a rumor and hot wheels leaving
away who didn't have it? Who didn't long Well, if
you report keep drying up in the memood, you longed
for hot wheels, you didn't have hot.

Speaker 20 (29:06):
Wheels, but you have the fake hot wheels, and those
wheels didn't really go ran quite as hot as.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
The team hot wheels. Shane Jones is pulling the trugger.
I mean, he gets a free day of news, really
if you think about it, because it's not like this
government hasn't talked endlessly about getting the oil and gas
exploration back up and running, but yesterday they officially announced it.
So it is going to happen, and unfortunately it's not
actually going to happen till later on this year. So
that's probably the first question. How come we're not moving
this just a little bit faster. Shane Jones in the

(29:34):
next half hour of the program, The Lads and the
commentary of Box Andrew Saville and Guy have else after
eight o'clock as well.

Speaker 21 (29:39):
For you.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
The Breakfast Show You Can Trust, The Mic Hosking Breakfast
with Jaguar, The Art of Performance News TOGSADB.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Morning seven past seven. It's not like they haven't promised it,
but confirmation that the government is reversing our band on
oil and gas exploration. The reality of the gap between
the renewables and the real world has come back to
bite us as gas supplies are dropping in each winter.
We walk a very fine line between supply and demand.
Now the Minister of a Resource of Shane Jones is
back with us.

Speaker 18 (30:06):
Good morning, correct, Hey morning folks.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
You are now the legislation later on this year. Why
can't it be quick? At what's the hold up?

Speaker 18 (30:15):
Obviously we had to be very careful as to how
we made the announcement because they are share market implications
and we want to get this right because if you
go back five or six years ago, Megan Woods, we're
seener gy minister in the history of Western civilization, and
Jacinda rushed this court Winston and I unawares, and that

(30:35):
left me with the Kobuki faces, and we don't want
to repeat the error of ambushing people, so take the
time to get it right and to boost the desirability
of New Zealand as a further destination for international capital.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yes, that reputational issue, and I have talked about before,
how bad is it? How much work is required to
convince people we are back in and back in properly.

Speaker 18 (30:55):
A Most importantly, we're going to have to work with
the industry and work out what role the crowd can
have to establish long term contracts. No one is going
to make a long term capital commitment to New Zealand
in the face of short term arrangements. In terms of
boosting energy through gas. I'm not really wanting to reprise
contracts from the past, but I've been told by major

(31:18):
users of gas we faced the industrialization and potential investors
are quite frankly concerned that there will not be the
level of confidence or security going forward. So that's quite
came of very long term contracts.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
You referred to Megan Woods. Did you were you really
taken unawares back in eighteen Did that really come out
of the blue or did you know it was coming in?
If it was did you fight it.

Speaker 18 (31:42):
Now? Look, when I was on the stage with the
kabuki faces, I genuinely and I don't think as I recall,
New Zealand first had a lot to do with that decision,
but it was sprung on us. It was a level
of extraordinary naivety. It's now history worse, not ever been
involved in terms of being apollot well, one of the

(32:02):
worst decisions of being involved in as a politician.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
No, over the weekend, those protests and it's related, but
not you know, it's fast track. It's your power, it's
your ability to make decisions along with the two other ministers,
of which oil and gas is part of the overall equation.
What don't they get about the fact, on a cold
winter's morning, we don't have enough power that where it's
still important coal for God's sake, and the gap between
what we want to do in renewables is simply too large.

(32:26):
Why don't they understand that, Oh.

Speaker 18 (32:29):
They've been fed a diet of lotus eating ideology. They
refuse to accept that if you want to transition in
New Zealand, someone's going to pay for it. Look, you
just can't. You can't out of the blue conjure up
a new economic future just because you have a march
and leave all your rubbish in the local trash can

(32:51):
and then go home and feel that you've enjoyed some
sort of existential high. I deliberately chose to released the
decision pertaining to oil and gas. So there's a contrast
for Keys. You either take the lotus eater green approach
who people who want to tranquilize the economy, or you
stand with us, we're going to turbo charges economy. You've

(33:13):
got a clear choice, all.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
Right, appreciate you time. Shane Jones, a Minister of Resources.
Ten minutes past seven.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
This is news talk, breaking news.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
I get Catherine Field on the phone. If we can
at a couple of moments, it looks like Macrons called
a snap election. He's been caned in the EU elections
are the exit poles. We've only got exit poles at
this particular point in time. And it gave you the
numbers in the last hour that Lapen's party's coming at
about thirty percent, which is their best result ever his party,

(33:44):
Macron's Party's coming at fifteen. So they've been absolutely thrashed.
The move to the writers on all over Europe, not
least of which is in France. So as a result
of this, Macron appears to be calling a snap election
for the Assembly and they're looking to go in the
early part of next month. So it's literally unfolding as
we speak, So we'll get you more details shortly meantime.
Back home, good news in Rotorua, governments decided to cut

(34:06):
back on a number of emergency housing motels. Consents won't
be renewed for six of the thirteen remaining motels. Consents
for the other seven will lapse at the end of
next year. Now the rot Rue me ATTNYA tapsl is
well this time you're very good morning to you, A
very good.

Speaker 22 (34:19):
Morning to you as well, and it is fantastic news
for us.

Speaker 3 (34:22):
Indeed, has this been coming for a while? Was this
always going to be announced at some point that this
where you were heading generally?

Speaker 22 (34:28):
Look, I think this current government was very clear in
their election campaign that they did need to address the
emergency housing motels and alt to do that. I have
had my number of months discussions with the ministers on
how best can we do this and I think the
plan at their delivery fortunately is a plan. There's transparency
and they're brave enough to put a number on.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
It, and you're happy with the seven waiting until the
end of next year, you can live with that.

Speaker 18 (34:50):
Look.

Speaker 22 (34:50):
It took a little while to get me around, to
be honest, I think our community we're expecting the previous
government to end this in December, which was the original commitment,
but we are realists that people have to go somewhere,
so we do believe that by the end of next
year things will be covered. But fortunately the plan is
actually a rapid reduction, so by this time next year
there will only be four motowns. And I think that's

(35:12):
the confidence our community was looking for before that there
is actually a plan in place.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Good. What's it look like now, Fenton Street, et cetera.
Does it look materially different from its worst days or not?

Speaker 23 (35:23):
Oh?

Speaker 22 (35:23):
Yes, absolutely, And ful feeling in town is actually much
better as well, because, of course, when we had the
fifty motils, which is what we started with, there were
a number of social issues in the city too. We
are seeing those reduced. We now have eighteen motiles altogether,
including six of the emergency housing which were the bad ones,
so we still have some work to do. Working on

(35:44):
all of the motils in to do.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
Is there some reputational damage to be fixed up over
a period of time or will this bounce back? Do
you think?

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Oh?

Speaker 22 (35:52):
Absolutely, And that's what we were most concerned about when
this first started happening, is if all everyone was hearing
about was the motils in Altade. But we are still
a fantastic destination. Fortunately in the last summer and lately
tourism is bounced back, so we're feeling pretty confident. But
actually what we do need is also to restore the reputation,
but bring in the additional resources that we always needed,
which was more police to deal with these issues of

(36:14):
social housing as well.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Good stuff, Tony, good to catch uppreciate it very much.
Tony Tapsle a much brighter, happier mayor of Rotaru under
a different government. It's amazing what attitude does, isn't it.
Thirteen minutes past seven A and Z if you missed
it over the weekend, They now are calling for the
interest rates cuts to come first cut February. They did
say May next year, Adrian still saying the latter part

(36:37):
of next year. But the A and Z have looked
at the economy gone where so on our knees is
going to have to move in February. So meaningful progress
on inflation, they're saying, is around the corner. By February
next year. We're anticipating that the RB will have seen
fourth quarter CPI inflation of two point six year on
year non tradable still four point seven year on year,

(36:57):
but we are forecasting it to drop sub for four
the following quarter. Unemployment through five percent should be enough
to trigger a rate I hope they are right right.
Let's get to France and see what Macron's up to
In a moment fourteen past the hosting Rexlist Cameron George
of the Warriors before eight o'clock. Yes, we'll celebrate the
winnow over the weekend because it was brilliant, but also

(37:18):
the it's firming up that we look like we could
be opening next season in Las Vegas as part of
the NRL's push into that particular part of the world.
But developing this morning seventeen past seven. By the way,
I told you the EU was going to be worth watching.
And so we've got the exit polls for France and
Marine La penn has come in allegedly with thirty percent
Macrons Renaissance Party fifteen, the Socialists fourteen, the Greens barely

(37:41):
scrape into the parliament at five point two percent, and
as a result of that, Macron has gone and called
a snap pole. Catherine Field as well as Catherine very
good morning to.

Speaker 24 (37:49):
You, good morning mate.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Has this come completely out of left field?

Speaker 24 (37:54):
Completely completely a manual. Macron just announcing fifteen twenty minutes
ago that he's taken note, as he said, of what
the voters said by turning out over the weekend to
vote so decisively for the policies of the far right
Marine Leapen's party, and therefore he says he's going to

(38:16):
go back to the people that people will now have
their chance to vote for the National Assembly. The reason
this came so out of nowhere, a mike, is because
when you vote for the European Parliament, that's really for
voting on a European level. It's everything to do with
Europe as a whole, your twenty eight nations. It's not

(38:38):
meant to be about local politics. But clearly the success
of Marine le Pen's party, her candidate Jordan Badella, has
really rocked him and he's felt that even though he's popular.
He has had a good last couple of days with
the D Day celebrations. He felt he had no option
but to call these elections.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Wow, he already runs a minority government. I mean, could
this blow up in his face very easily?

Speaker 24 (39:04):
Very easily. I was just listening to instant reaction. I
suppose you could call it on television. The French Interior
minister called it a courageous decision, So we all know
what that means when someone says that in politics it could.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Well.

Speaker 24 (39:20):
Now is Mahine Leapenn's chance to get out?

Speaker 2 (39:23):
There?

Speaker 24 (39:24):
Have this momentum going I everyone's been saying, look, we
don't need elections. They're not scheduled for another three years.
They've all got time to calm down, get over this
so called move to the far right within the country.
So she is really on and up now. And I
think the other thing, Mike, is what I've been hearing
this last sort of I don't know, eight nine months,

(39:47):
you've been hearing more about Mahine Leapenn.

Speaker 12 (39:50):
Well, maybe she won't be so bad.

Speaker 24 (39:51):
There's almost as though the electorate have almost taught themselves
and believing that maybe her and her followers won't be
so bad when it comes to governing.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Good on you, Catherine, appreciate the updates just developing this morning.
Catherin Field out of France for us this morning. I
put that down to Georgia Maloney. Maloney was allegedly the
far right. Allegedly she was a radical, crazy woman who
was going to do god knows what in Italy and
she's turned out to be a relatively moderate and successful politician.
If you're standing in France, sitting in France having a
look at that and think, well, maybe Marine Leapen's just

(40:22):
another version of Maloney. So there we go. Out of
the EU vote comes the first snap election twenty past seven.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
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seven twenty four. Now, shall we open the week with
a prediction, So this is the week the government will

(41:34):
call an inquiry the accusations around the Murray Party, the
Mariah and the use of COVID and Census information. Now,
the trouble with the trouble is if the government doesn't
call an inquiry, too many questions start to get asked
around transparency and trust and the allegations are too specific.
They are not here say from people who heard from people.
They are very specific, detailed allegations from people who were there.
The denials they're fine, but the questions remain uninvestigated and

(41:58):
they are too serious not to be. So they're a
Privacy commissioner and the Stats Department hiring a bloke. Do it?
I doubt it from the government's point of view, because
do remember, although this goes directly to one party in Parliament,
it potentially involves everyone in parliament. If those running the
country can't be seen to be scrupulous, then that's trouble.
The Maori Party themselves haven't helped, with President John Tammahiry

(42:20):
rolling out his standard line about this all being about race.
The problem with John John's too angry to be credible
these days. He's got this enormous chip on his shoulder
and everything's a conspiracy around race. The irony being here.
As far as I know, the people making these accusations
are Maori, So it's not about Mary's about rules and
laws and whether they've been broken. Not helping as the
food and voucher giveaway in general. Although Maury can argue

(42:42):
things like it's kha the previous government set this damning
precedent where bribes because that's what they are, were handed
out for vaccines and census participation. They muddy the waters.
But what is clear is using census and vax information
to campaign or to recruit for elections is illegal, and
that is what we need to find out, did it
or not. There's also the matter of said information then

(43:03):
being used to contact people via text for votes and
not following the prescribed electoral laws. So does the government
pull the trigger on this one? And when they do, why,
why the question does it pass the pub test? Answer
not even close, Hosking. And yet the English mic are
going to vote in a Labor government that will drastically
change the British landscape, Paul. The reason they'll be voting

(43:24):
in Labor has not anything to do with the European
elections and the broad move to the right. The reason
they'll be doing that is because, of course they've had many, many, many,
many many years of a Tory government and time as
the greatest enemy of all governments. A couple of things
that will come out of Montreal and f one today
for Stappan, by the way, he's got a big enough
lead that he'll almost take it home, but Norris for
a while. They're led. Safety car came at an unfortunate time.

(43:47):
Norris and McLaren didn't respond quickly enough. He came out
of the safety car third. He's never been able to
recover His recovered a second, but it ain't first. Other
point being Russell, who was on pole, would have wanted
to win. He won't. He's currently fourth. They're under safety
car at the moment. Perez got whacked into so his
league Lucky got the contract signed last week. Otherwise they'd

(44:07):
still be looking at him twice. Sergeant's out, Leclaire's gone
because his car broke down. It's no excuse when it's
a ferrari. Yeah it's a ferrari. For goodness sake. If
you can't make a ferrari go, what's the point. And
the other big talking point, of course, and this is
to do with Liam Lawson is Ricardo, who qualified extremely
well and would have been banking on some serious points today,

(44:28):
has not only got a penalty because he jumped the start.
He's currently whereas since he tenth. He might end up
with a point at the end of the day, but
he is he is nowhere near where he started the
field or would want to be at this present point
in time. Anyway, we'll reflect all of this and more
with the lads and the commentary box. Being a Monday
morning guy, have felt and andrews Sevil where after eight
o'clock this morning still to come David Seymour Over the

(44:50):
weekend they're gunning for fifteen percent and twenty twenty six.
But do they have these culture issues? What's David Seymour
say about all of that?

Speaker 1 (44:57):
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Speaker 3 (45:09):
But the exit polls are coming thick and fast out
of Europe now, and boy that that is a continent
in for big change. Germany, the AfD came second. They
got sixteen and a half percent of the vote, five
percentage points higher than the last vote in twenty nineteen.
The centre right Christian Democrats CDU twenty nine point five percent,
so they win strongest party CEDU as the political party

(45:30):
of the incumbent European Commissioner Ursula Vandalayan. So we'll get
to here in a moment. There's a week showing from
all of Schultz Party, which is the center f Social
Democrat party. They came third at fourteen percent. Austria far
right Freedom Party comfortably in first place. Netherlands that gave
you earlier on they voted on Friday Saturday. New Zealand
Time Builders Party seventeen point seven, so they won. Other

(45:51):
parties came in as well, but they were the biggest
part of Greece first exit poll. The ruling party New
Democracy first thirty percent of the vote. That would almost
double the number of votes of the left wing opposition,
the Seriza Party, which secured around sixteen percent. As regards overall,
the center right European People's Party is the largest party.
That's one hundred and eighty one seat, sent a left

(46:13):
Progressive Alliance S and D as they're called one hundred
and thirty five, and renew Europe the third largest group
of eighty two. But back to Germany are the good
news from that part of the world is good news
for Isla Bndlane and her job.

Speaker 25 (46:25):
I've worked very closely with our candidates across Europe and
I must tell you what I saw was a lot
of confidence and trust a trust and confidence in EPP,
trust and confidence in our European Union. And tonight this
is confirmed. The EPP is the strongest political group in

(46:48):
the European Parliament. EPP has the most leaders.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Let's bring it back home at twenty one minutes away
from a ACT party, how there an you will get
together over the weekend. They set a goal for the
next election of fifteen percent, which would be a major
boost from the eight point six percent to a last year.
Of course, David Siemore's with us very good morning, Good
morning mate. What are the lessons you're learning when you
talk about this fifteen percent? What are the lessons you're
learning in MMP history the smaller party in government vanishes.

(47:19):
What are you learning that's going to prevent you from
doing that and getting fifteen.

Speaker 18 (47:23):
You've got to find a balance of being a constructive partner.
And I think from our opponent's point of view, this
coalition is dangerously united, but also showed that you can
make a real difference. So I look at the thirty
six points in the last quarterly action Plan that our
government has, Eighteen of those came from ACT and I

(47:43):
think we are showing that a we can be constructive
and collegial. But also we have by far the most
reformist government coming in in several decades. It's also the
first time ACTS being at the cabinet table, and I'd
like to persuade the for those two things are connected.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
Okay, so last week was a good week for you,
so that e reviews, the holidays, the sick leave reviews.
Do you reckon people connected that directly to ACT or
it was just a thing from the government.

Speaker 18 (48:13):
I think over time people see a vibe. We have
a government that is slashing red tape. We've got a
government that is making savings. We've got a government that's
committed to the idea that each New Zealander has the
same inherent human dignity. We're not dividing ourselves by identity politics.
In each of those cases there's an ACTS signature attached

(48:35):
to it. But also in each of those cases, I
think it's fair to say that the government has not
gone as far as ACTS would go, And yes, it
has gone further than it would without ACT.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
Well, I do on think we've talked about it since
the budget. But the FARMAC of which you're in charge of,
the cancer drugs that weren't delivered. National seems to have
taken the heat on that, but that then falls back
on you to a degree as well. I mean, there's
the frustration on some of the things you might want
it to have done but haven't been.

Speaker 18 (49:02):
But if you look at Farmac, I mean, first of all,
we took a hospital pass. We had to put nearly
two billion dollars in just to keep it going because
that money had not been budgeted in the later parties
four years projection as that we inherit it. Second of all,
we're now doing everything we can to accommodate that national

(49:22):
party commitments and deliver more cancer drugs. That's been actively
worked on almost as we speak, So we will deliver
a lot more drugs, a lot more cancer drugs. However,
it's fair to say that you're trying to bring together
two models, one the Farmac model that I'm responsible for,
and to the commitment to fund some non Farmac drugs

(49:45):
that had been recommended by the Cancer Control Agency. I
actually think as we speak, we're doing a pretty good
job of integrating those two and there'll be an announcement
I suspect sooner rather than later that will show we
can make them more together, and again I say, that's
an example of being a constructive partner and government and

(50:05):
ultimately delivering better policy than we might offer. Did we
not have a coalition?

Speaker 3 (50:10):
I know you spoke to us yesterday. I suspect it's beltweigh.
But you've got some resignations. You've got some people that
didn't light the way the campaign went. They say you've
got a culture is shoot?

Speaker 13 (50:18):
Do you no? We don't.

Speaker 18 (50:20):
I mean, I look at the way that actors operated,
the caucus culture we've created, the staff retention rates we have,
the staff engagement has been measured by the Parliamentary Services
ACTS team having the best engagement every election. People come,
they have great expectations and then many of them stay,

(50:41):
but some decide that politics isn't quite what they thought
it was cracked up to be and move on. And
that's actually quite natural the way I look at it.
Actors grow in one thousand percent in the last five years.
A lot of new people have come along, and the
party's invested significantly in getting an expert reviewer who interviewed
sixty one different people, made I think thirty six recommendations,

(51:04):
although I don't have that number right now, and actually
it's a sign that actors going from strength to strength.
But no, they will always be journalists to do their
best to find the disaffected and amplify their voices. I
don't think it reflects a party that just had sold
out five hundred plus rally yesterday, with people very excited

(51:25):
about the contribution we can make to New Zealand and
the way we can I think restore the spirit of
New Zealand, which is an entrepreneurial culture of migrants from
all over the world here to make a difference in
their own lives.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
While I've got you and you're the most senior member
of government will have on the program this morning. Should
the government this week launch an investigation into to Marty
Maray and what may or may not have gone on
in the Mariah.

Speaker 18 (51:49):
It may well do, but the decision over whether we
do is sensitive. I actually think that Matthew Hooton summed
it up pretty well. What needs to be done is
justice according to the law in a proper way. That
is already happening with several departments. We don't want to
see a government investigation that is portrayed as political, because frankly,

(52:12):
that is what some people would like to see right now,
and we're actually here to show that our values are
doing things by the rule of law, by the book,
with fairness and equity for everybody are the right values.
So the question of should we very possibly, but we're
going to be balancing some pretty finely balanced interests here

(52:33):
to make sure that we get justice and that also
justices seem to be done.

Speaker 3 (52:37):
All right, David, appreciate time. David Seymore, the act party
leader this morning. I might be speaking prematurely, but the
F one race that's been on this morning in Montreal
is to my eye the best race of the season,
and probably by so far it doesn't matter, so I'll
update you on that in just a couple of moments.
And the Ritualist is out this morning as well. Seven

(52:58):
forty five.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Breakfast.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
We're on the final lap in Montreal. Just one of
the great races certainly of the season, of not all
the time, and this is what you get when weather's changeable.
The stap and will win it and he probably shouldn't have.
Norris will come second and he should have won it.
And how they explained the safety car and their reaction
to it with a pit stop will be interesting. Russell,
who started on pole, will most likely come third, so

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he'll be gutted. Hamilton, who was nowhere, will come fourth,
and he was complaining in the latter part of the
prep part of the season qualifying yesterday that he had
no group and a lot of people were saying they
had no grip. Sonoda, who would have been ninth, is now,
as far as I can work out, out of the race,
and he's not out of the races at the back
of the field because he drove off the track in

(53:44):
just the last lap, so he blew his race at
the very end. Ricardo, who wanted more, hasn't got it,
but he will be in the points. He's going to
finish most likely eighth. And the reason I mentioned Ricardo
so much as one he qualified well and two of
course this unfolding scenario of Liam Lawson given then has
been contracted over the weekend and a set for next year,
so that's another Red Bull seat gone. Perez has got

(54:04):
a two year deal, so there's one seat left and
that's between Lawson and Riccardo. Riccardo Christian Horner. Christian Horner,
who seems to have the power these days up a helmet.
Marco backs Riccardo. So it may well be in the
clause in Liam Lawson's contract that if he doesn't get
a seat next year, he's allowed to look elsewhere. But
the problem with the problem with the season is it's
unfolding at the home. Is only about three or four

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teams left who have any sort of possibility of seats.
So it's been a fantastic race, a lot of overtaking,
a lot of carnage, a lot of people who didn't finish,
who didn't finish, Science didn't finish. There's not a Ferrari
you finished. Leclair didn't finish, Perez didn't finish, Elbon didn't finish,
Sergeant didn't finish. Mind you, he never finishes.

Speaker 12 (54:42):
No, and that would have been news if that would
have been news.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
If he got to the end of the race and
he is finished. Of course, as of the end of
the year, because he's super finished, he's not really turned
out to be that.

Speaker 12 (54:49):
Yeah, they're in the last lap.

Speaker 20 (54:51):
Now, what I've learned about Formula One racing today is
there if you have a race where it's sunny all day,
that's boring, correct. If you have a race where it's
rainy all day, that's just dumb out. But if you
have a race where it starts rainy and then gets
a bit sunny, and then it rains a little bit
and then it gets a bit sunny again, you just

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don't know, do you. Ah, that makes it exciting. So
they need to do that every time.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
A couple of couple of safety cars. Yea, water the
track dried out. Water, the track dried out. You're going
to have like a hockey field good times every time.
Ten minutes away from it.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
The Mike Hosking breakfast with the Januarus tomb.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
Yeah, serving away from ATLANDA. Norris looks slightly deflated well
after another awesome weekend of success. Speaking of support the Warriors,
we are to believe might well be opening the season
next year in Las Vegas as part of the NL's
multi year push into the States. To worry A CEO
Cameron George is with It's Cameron morning to you.

Speaker 21 (55:43):
Good morning, Mike.

Speaker 3 (55:44):
How good was Saturday night?

Speaker 23 (55:45):
Though?

Speaker 21 (55:45):
Over?

Speaker 3 (55:45):
The Cowboys made it?

Speaker 21 (55:48):
It was a really really good effort. That's a tough
road trip. Then we just want to tuck that one
away and get home and just focus on Melbourne.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
Now, it's going to be a big week ahead, and
once upon a time Melbourne would be an impediment. But
I don't think any I think that we stand as
good a chance as any side of beating them, don't We.

Speaker 21 (56:04):
Yeah, absolutely made. But the boys have got a lot
of belief back now. They just need there's a bit
of luck. We've got players coming back, but there's just
a strong underbelly of you know, we can do this
and we're going after everything we can in the last
part of the season.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
Good talk to me about Vegas. Where are we at
and what are the chances we're they're at the beginning
of next year.

Speaker 23 (56:23):
There's a big chance. But middlely we're not.

Speaker 21 (56:25):
You know, we're not confirmed. I have got some paperwork
I'm working through with the NRL where cats up again
later this week.

Speaker 18 (56:32):
But we are a chance.

Speaker 21 (56:34):
We're all a team so it doesn't impact on our
home home game schedule, and that's absolutely non negotiable. So
if the NRL agrees to that, you know we're a
chance of being there.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
Is there a big pitch going on? Is that what
happens You pitched to the NRL and say we should
be there because of X Y Z.

Speaker 21 (56:53):
Oh, they do ask what you can bring to the table.
But look, I think it could be a bit of
a last man standing. Every club has to go over
the next few years. And my view is, look, it's
a chance to grow our brand. It's a great experience
for our footy club, our fans and everyone. As long
as you know, we looked after and the terms are
right and we get what'll we need out of it,
I think it's not a bad opportunity for our footy club.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
What's your assessment of how it went in the in
the opening part of the season. Is it seen within
the NRL as being successful.

Speaker 21 (57:23):
Yeah, Look, I think they learn a lot, a real lot,
and I've spoken to a lot of the clubs it went,
and you know, they've given us.

Speaker 18 (57:30):
A lot of advice and so on.

Speaker 21 (57:31):
In the NRL have taken that on board and this
year is it looks like it's a much better opportunity.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
For the clubs.

Speaker 21 (57:36):
But overall the game, you know, I got a lot
out of it, and we're all part of trying to
grow the game and this is just our chance to
be a part of it, sooner rather or later.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
Fantastic Where are we going to know one way or
the other?

Speaker 23 (57:47):
Well?

Speaker 21 (57:47):
Mate, I'm hoping in the next week or two for sure,
but look we're certainly looking through the paperwork now.

Speaker 3 (57:53):
Fantastic, Go well mate, appreciate it very much. Cameron George
out of the warriors for us this morning, four minutes
away from ask the old NBR rich list is is
that still the thing? Is that appropriate in this day
and age when we no longer celebrate money in any
way shape or former? List is powerball, don't we If
it's powerball, it's news. If you actually had to work
for it, then we don't like to talk too much

(58:14):
about that rich shaming.

Speaker 12 (58:16):
Is that what you mean?

Speaker 3 (58:17):
Turns out that the Mowbrays twenty billion, they've beaten Graham
Hart for the first time in many years. So a
bunch of balloons?

Speaker 26 (58:25):
Is it?

Speaker 3 (58:25):
Twenty billion dollars? So the list is all it's nothing
really changes. Graham Heart's second Todd family, a third, Goodman family,
Sir Peter Jackson and Dame fran A three billion at five.
Sir Michael Friedlander is in the list as well, The
Talley family, the Fooker Tucky family. I don't know that one.
So Peter Cooper, he's at one and a half. Rod

(58:46):
Drury You'll know well at one point four to five collectively.
By the way, this year's NBR rich list is at
ninety five point six to eight billion. Stand By for
the news story where somebody with their hands firmly ringing
will ask for all the to be donated to charity
and to save the client.

Speaker 12 (59:02):
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Speaker 3 (59:20):
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Speaker 12 (59:28):
Over, Thank you ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 18 (59:29):
Here in Hamilton, the Chiefs will run out for winners
forty three points.

Speaker 10 (59:33):
To twenty one.

Speaker 21 (59:34):
Hurricanes will host a Super Rugby semi final next weekend.

Speaker 18 (59:39):
I've scored seven tries here and the Blues match.

Speaker 20 (59:43):
On and Super Rugby Pacific now host the semifinal next week.
In comprehensive thirty six five, the Rubbies ahen to the semifinals.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
Super Rubby Pacific a big win in Townsville. All the
Warriors at full time They've taken down the Cowboys too
points to twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
The Monday Morning commentary barks on the Mike Husking breakfast.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
Did you ever have with us this Monday fellas? Good morning,
this morning, morning.

Speaker 23 (01:00:15):
Go.

Speaker 3 (01:00:15):
Have you been watching the Formula One?

Speaker 23 (01:00:17):
Yeah? I did watch the Formula One this morning?

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
Am I correct? Just so people don't think I'm a
nut case? Am I correct in saying that if you've
watched this, that was the best race of the season
by so far, it doesn't matter, and probably one of
as good a race as you'll ever see.

Speaker 23 (01:00:32):
Yeah, it was a heck of a contest. There were
lead changes, there were crashes, There was stuff in the
middle of the pack that I think Kiwis will be
interested in, around Daniel Ricardo and that sort of thing.
I walked away and to go and do some stuff
to get ready to the day. At a pretty crucial
time when they pitted, why didn't Russell go into the peck?

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Couldn't agree with it? It was it wasn't just Russell,
it was Norris as well, and.

Speaker 23 (01:00:56):
So pretty much turned the race exactly what I haven't I.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
Have who the explanation for what the thinking of that was.
But they blew it because Norris was in the lead
and I think he had the speed and he would
have won it. And so therefore that's a that's a
that's a victory gone missing unfortunately, but so many storylines.
Did you see it, sav No, you missed a treat.
Watch the repay later on.

Speaker 18 (01:01:22):
And then was it a great race?

Speaker 14 (01:01:24):
Just because I had a few lead changes?

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
Well that's what racing is in account as. You want
lead changes, you want crashes, you want the unpredictable, you
want somebody who has the whole thing. Mark my words.
The entire season now is coming together in terms of competitiveness.
So Mercedes is genuinely competitive. Ferrari, although had a disastrous day,
were normally reasonably competitive. McLaren's up there and Red Bulls

(01:01:48):
up there and even r B until Sonoda drove off
the track in about the second to last lap, even
they were competitive. You've got fire or six sides now
that are really tight, and that's good.

Speaker 14 (01:01:57):
Please, I'm please to see McClaren doing well. Heaven history
given a connection.

Speaker 23 (01:02:02):
It had all the conditions as well, which I think
made it interesting. Just a couple of things that just
before we leave IF One, Ricardo, I you know, I
have only really started watching IF One properly since Drive
to Survive, But it infuriates me that a guy who
is clearly not up to it correct will continue to
probably stay on the grid because he brings in a
few more eyeballs and that sort of thing. When you

(01:02:24):
know he starts this and then Jacques zill Nerve has
a bit of a crack at him, and then he
has a crack back about qualifying fifth. Well, mate, if
you can't finish in the top ten, it doesn't really
matter what happens in qualifying. And then secondly, I mean,
how is a low consargeant still on the grid at all?

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
Well, they haven't got a replacement for him as the problem.
He'll leave at the end of the season. And that
god knows how many millions of dollars they've cost that
team with him just driving. I mean, the spare parts
bill for that guy alone must be some sort of record.
But it does leave. And this is the important thing.
You make very good points, guy, this this is the problem, said,
this is what you need to be on to tonight.
So Perez has signed for two years. Yeah, so announced

(01:02:59):
over the weekend. There's one seat left. Riccardo, who on
a good day can qualify at an okay level. Rest
of the time, doesn't do anything is against Liam Lawson,
who has got a clause in this contract. If he
doesn't get a seat for twenty five he looks elsewhere.

Speaker 14 (01:03:14):
Yeah, and the problem for Liam Lawson is that might
like some of these drivers who probably shouldn't be on
their grid, that Britain fifty mil one hundred mil with
them from either Rich Pearance or Rich Backers.

Speaker 23 (01:03:25):
And then if he if he go, if he gets
that seat of log and Sergeant as William's really a
good move. I mean, I suppose he's on the grid.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Yeah, he's on the grid. But that's that's the problem,
isn't it. The mister Carlos signs if you look at
he isn't going to ride for next year. So Mercedes
have said they're not going to take him. So he's
stuck with it. He's stuck with maybe Ardi Sarboradi or Williams.
Does Carlos signs at Williams? I mean, what's wrong with
that one? When you got that going on?

Speaker 13 (01:03:51):
Yeah, it's crazy now.

Speaker 3 (01:03:53):
Said the rugby. You gripped by this. What are we
going to have? Blues Hurricanes or Blues Chiefs.

Speaker 14 (01:04:00):
The quarter finals went, according to Plandon in a big way.
I wouldn't be surprised the Chiefs of the Canes a
real hurry up in Wellington on Friday night the Blues
should beat the Brumbies. Probably a Blues Cane signal, but
again it wouldn't surprise me it was the Blues Chiefs.
What about the call on which teams a win, which
games a win? MIC So the Rugby League Warriors in

(01:04:22):
the storm seven to seven thirty on a Saturday night
the Caines Chiefs actually is on Saturday at four thirty.

Speaker 16 (01:04:32):
Who would have.

Speaker 14 (01:04:32):
Thought that's the other day good game, a Super Rugby
semi finals. That's a curtain ranger of the Warriors.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
Well, I mean, if you were up against the Warriors
on a roll, I know which one I would be watching,
and if I was organizing it, I'd be slipping the
rugby to an earlier time slot as well.

Speaker 18 (01:04:47):
And that year that's smart.

Speaker 14 (01:04:49):
I mean the Warriors game has been for some weeks
obviously a long time, and this was always going to
be semi finals weekend and Super Rugby, but we didn't
know who and where.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
The problem I guess we face is that guy. Although
the Brumbies aren't even favored when it is an Australian side.
So that whole thing that everyone was, you know, the
Australians were slightly more competitive has sort of come to nothing, really,
isn't it.

Speaker 7 (01:05:14):
Yeah, it has, And.

Speaker 23 (01:05:16):
To be honest, I can't see them beating the Blues.
The Highland has played pretty well on the weekend and
got reasonably close, and yeah, I can't see them coming
over here and beating the Blues. And realistically, the Brumbies
were the only good Australian team this year. You know, Yes,
the Rebels made the playoffs, but they weren't that good rarely.
The Reds were okay, but then they go and get

(01:05:38):
absolutely thrust by the Chiefs and it still shows that
gap between the teams. So yeah, I mean, I don't
think it's a bad thing that the Rebels had gone
from the competition. Hopefully it kind of spreads that telling
a little bit more throughout those other four teams remaining
from Australia.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
Let's have a talk with Let's ever talk about the
worries in a moment. Guy have Elt and Andrew Sevil
thirteen past.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
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Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
Past eight, Guy have Belt, Andrew several with us Monday
Morning comments on a week in review with two degrees
No glan, that's not that's Monday.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
The Monday Morning commentary bars on the Mike Husking breakfast.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
We're working on him. We're working with him. He's got
Our last report was he's got potential.

Speaker 14 (01:06:20):
Now, sad is it a public holiday today?

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
He wants it to be a public holiday.

Speaker 8 (01:06:25):
It was.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
They got some Kings honors across at King George's you know,
Kingsborthay and Australia today. By the way, Sab did you
watch the Warriors? I take it you watched the Warriors?

Speaker 14 (01:06:33):
Yes?

Speaker 22 (01:06:34):
I did?

Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, how good? How good?

Speaker 14 (01:06:37):
I couldn't leave the first twenty to thirty minutes every
time they bought their school. Basically, look the North Queensland Cowboys.
I don't think of the Cowboys a few years ago,
but playing in Townsville and they're still a pretty good
team and HEASTI would have been a bit of state
of origin hangover for a lot of those teams playing
this weekend, not the Warriors, but they still had to
go over there with some big names still missing and

(01:06:58):
win and win comfortably. And now they've got the Storm
best coming weekend the home some big, big games ahead,
especially at home, which are sold out already. They're in
for a very good couple of months, I think, mate.

Speaker 3 (01:07:12):
Okay, Warren texts Sav and I need your response. Brumbies
will beat the Blues. Sav leave your fellow one eyed
kiwis at least a spoonful of humble pie. Please you
say what to want?

Speaker 14 (01:07:22):
No, I mean too ploads of injured is a big
loss for the Blues, inspirational Skipper, But they played the
Brumbies on Eden Park and regular season and absolutely smoked them.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
So, Noy, what do you make of the Warriors and
the Storm at home? I mean, the Storm are very
very very good side. But then again, so I.

Speaker 23 (01:07:42):
Think the Warriors can win. I think they're capable of winning.
They have shown in the last few weeks when we
all asked for them to show it that they are
a good enough team to beat these top teams. They
played very well against the Panthers and beat the Panthers.
They went to Townsville, which is one of the toughest
things to do in the competent. Shouldn't then easily beat
the Cowboys? And now they come home and I think

(01:08:03):
they've got a real sense of confidence about them. And
I do think that sport is a game of if
you get the confidence, then the momentum goes with you.
And yeah, I genuinely think they.

Speaker 18 (01:08:14):
Can win it.

Speaker 23 (01:08:14):
And then all of a sudden they're pretty much within
the top four exactly, And isn't that just crazy to
think a few weeks ago, Well, it is a time competition.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
I mean we're a point outside the top eight, three
without outside of the top four. I'll tell you what's
tell you what's interesting. If you go in with the
Panthers and the Dolphins saf and you beat I mean,
there's no, there's no. In other words, it's not like
you had a whole lot of also runs. You've beaten
some of the best sides in the competition. This is
just another side.

Speaker 14 (01:08:37):
I'm to take today. And yeah, I still I thought
they were I assume they're in the top eight. They're
not far off, but right.

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
There are one point off the top eight.

Speaker 14 (01:08:46):
I don't know whether I told you this. I spoke
to a rugby league great who will remain nameless a
few weeks ago, and he said he thought during that
lean run, players weren't living up to the expectations created
from last year. I think they found that pressure a
little bit too much, which is an interesting theory.

Speaker 23 (01:08:59):
But he said, you watch this.

Speaker 14 (01:09:00):
Andrew Webster is an outstanding coach. He won't blink and
they will start winning again.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
He was spot on. He was absolutely spot on. We
should mention before we go. Van Gisbergen, who got a
second straight when that's something. So he's on some sort
of role. And of course Scott Dixon, they're racing. I
think they're racing at the moment.

Speaker 14 (01:09:18):
In Detroit, New Marcus arms Throng was second on the grid.

Speaker 13 (01:09:21):
I think wasn't it was?

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
He he was, see we got any thing? And I
don't want to bang on about motorsport, but I mean
when we're winning, we're winning is if you're following FORMULAIE
and I still struggle with it. If you look at
Cassidy and Evans who are now on the same team,
look at where they are in the competition. I mean,
we're just like dominating motorsport all over the world.

Speaker 23 (01:09:43):
I think we said it last week, didn't we that
it's one of the best times in motorsport hastory in
this country.

Speaker 14 (01:09:48):
Imagine if we had imagine we had a couple of
good snooker players. Mike, you'd be.

Speaker 3 (01:09:51):
Imagine if we had a couple of good snookering mate, exactly,
mind you eyes, the way I played over the weekend,
I'd rate myself as one of a really good snooker
Play yourself. I need to plagugainst anybody, Andrew. I mean,
you assess yourself. Self assessment is one of the great
tools of life. And if you can assess yourself honestly
and evenly at the end of it and go yep,

(01:10:13):
that's pretty good. Mike.

Speaker 14 (01:10:14):
Hey, Mike, if you assess yourself too much, they have
a word for people like you.

Speaker 23 (01:10:19):
Hey, if Tate's listening, can you get a couple of
clips of you playing snooker on Instagram? Just to see
how really good you are?

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
Oh look, modesty prevents me from releasing that sort of footage.

Speaker 23 (01:10:32):
I want to see a video of.

Speaker 14 (01:10:33):
You taking a snooker shot and in undoing a paper towel.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
Role and then.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
Tell you what I did do. My tip fell off
over the weekend and I put that back on no
problems at all, So I'm a handy man as well.

Speaker 14 (01:10:46):
And what mark did you give yourself and putting your
tip back on.

Speaker 12 (01:10:50):
I said, you are talking about your your sneaker que right.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
It's Glean exact, Gleann guy, stop it, grow up you too,
Andrew several guy have felt for another week. It's eight
twenty one, the Mike hosting breakfast with Bailey's real Estate
news dogs. In the news talks, it'd be a twenty
four no mention of the cricket Mike, what four? Why

(01:11:14):
would you want to mention that disaster? Mike. I don't
think after this weekend signings, Liam Lawson will get a
seat for next year. Un list Ricardo gets dropped. That's
the big decision, of course they've got to make, or
Carlo Science does not sign with Williams. That's what makes
it so fascinating. This is a kid right on the
edge and circumstances are unfolding and swirling around them. The
big developing the story this morning is of course the

(01:11:36):
snap election that Macron has called as a result of
the EU vote. The big winner in France and the
EU vote was of course Marine le Pen.

Speaker 26 (01:11:46):
The French have spoken and this historic election shows that
when do people vote, do people win by giving more
than thirty two percent to the national rally. The French
have just given us their highest score all parties combine
in four two years. It's a real emotion to see
this beautiful popular force rising up throughout a country.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
I was going to say, in many respects they've come
of age, because it's not like she and her dad
haven't been around in French politics for a very long time.
So she's done particularly well. Which and we had Catherine
on earlier if you missed it, But this literally came
out of left field. This is macron.

Speaker 27 (01:12:22):
The rise of nationalists and demagogues is a danger for
our nations, but also for Europe, for France's position in
Europe and in the world. And I say this even
though we have just celebrated with the whole world the
Normandy landing, and as in a few weeks we will
welcome the world for the Olympic and Paralympic Games. Yes,
the far right is both the result of the impoverishment

(01:12:44):
of the French and the downgrading of our country.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
So at the end of this day I cannot act
as if nothing had happened.

Speaker 27 (01:12:52):
Added to this situation is a fever which has gripped
public and parliamentary debate in our country in recent years.
It is which I know worries you like said sometimes
shocks you, and to which I do not intend to
give in.

Speaker 3 (01:13:06):
So unusual to hear the president of the country talk
about the impoverishment of the people, given that he would
be just let me think in charge. So anyway, he
runs a minority government as it currently stands if you
don't follow French politics, so he has at the best
of times a problem getting legislation through. The election he's
called as not for presidents. It's not a presidential election,
but it is for the makeup of the parliament. And

(01:13:28):
given he already runs a minority in that parliament, and
given that the French have moved quite decisively to the right,
he is taking a monumental because he didn't have to
he ad a couple of years to run. He is
taking a monumental risk in this. Generally speaking, right around
Europe we are seeing broadly a move to the right,

(01:13:49):
and in some countries a particularly stark move to the right,
which will shape the continent. Remember of courses, half a
billion people to deal with. It will shape the continent
profoundly for the next handful of years. News for you,
and then we'll get into Australia and Steve Price.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues, the
Mic Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
With Jaguar, the Art of Performance News Talk. Sa'd be well, it.

Speaker 3 (01:14:15):
Has proved to be quiet the morning in Europe or
the evening in Europe as they wrapped these election up,
and we're talking you about France obviously, and all the
other exit polls. Broadly speaking, what is unfolded is exactly
what they predicted to unfold. We've got the first exit
poll out of Spain, Conservative Popular Party the PP. They've
overtaken the Socialist Workers Party with thirty three point two

(01:14:36):
percent of the vote. If that projection stands, it'll be
a substantial increase from twenty nineteen when the party held
twenty percent. So twenty to thirty three percent, that's quite
some movement. The far right Vox Party came third with
ten percent, nearly double what the party gained in twenty nineteen.
You got to remember in Spain, Sanchez and the leftists
are running the place, so incumbent governments in Europe who

(01:14:58):
are the center left? And you talk about you talk
about Germany, it's at France as well. They are in
real trouble. Twenty ten minutes away from.

Speaker 10 (01:15:05):
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for New Zealand business.

Speaker 3 (01:15:11):
And it's a holiday in Australia today. Of course it's
King's birthday. We had ours last week they do. There's
today and step Prices Weather's very good morning to you.

Speaker 18 (01:15:19):
So you have two birthdays in a week. The King
does he well.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
Here but he appears to be because funnily enough, I
was thinking about this last week and why don't we
sort of belign them? But you're on. Have you had
the opportunity to just just text a little message through
to Dan and say good on your mate, well done,
thanks for the lockdown.

Speaker 18 (01:15:34):
It's former Premier you're referring to Daniel andrews Now he's
got the highest award in the country today he's become
a Companion of the Order of Australian and as an
AC Now. News of this leap within media circles last week. Now,
I was doing sky TV all last week but you
couldn't talk about it because these are under heavy embargo.

(01:15:54):
As you know, what happens is you get the list,
you've probably got it a couple of days early, and
you can line up to to people on the day
it's announced. But the anger that's going to erupt today,
once the wider public understands what's happened here, will be palpable.
Do you this is the bloke who I'll just give
you The Herald Sun's reported the numbers here, just to

(01:16:15):
remind ourselves about what this bloke did. During COVID seven
hundred and sixty eight Victorians died because of the bungled
hotel quarantine they were. The Victorians were lockdown for two
hundred and sixty two days, the longest lockdowns in the world.
The economy was forecast to crash up to the value

(01:16:35):
of one hundred and seventy one billion dollars, and of
course you've got all these infrastructure blowouts that I've talked
to you about before. So it is people will just
shake their heads. I mean Mark McGowan, the premiere of
Wa eurocle Wa was locked up for quite a while.
But they loved it because that kept pesky people from
the Eastern States out and they just went about their business.

(01:16:57):
They weren't lockdown at their homes. They just said the
border lockdown. But in Victoria. You couldn't go and even
play golf on your own on a golf course. So
there will be a lot of angry people when they
find out that Daniel Andrews has got this award. It's
supposed to be awarded by an independent body. It's got
the federal Labor government stamp all over it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
It's going to be very very exactly speaking, which this
poll is morning at fifty to fifty two party preferred,
that increasingly this government is in trouble, isn't it.

Speaker 14 (01:17:26):
Yes, it is.

Speaker 18 (01:17:26):
And it's interesting you mentioned the drift to the right
in Europe when you've got in Australia every government bar
Tasmania is of the center left and there are moves
against those labor governments right around the country. But federally,
Newsport today highest rating for the coalition in three years.

(01:17:50):
You mentioned fifty to fifty two party preferred. That's always
a problem for the coalition because the Green preferences lead
to Labor Labour's primary votes at thirty two point six
which is way below the coalitions on thirty nine percent.
And it all comes down to this discussion about the economy,
particularly visa. The rows over the visa people are really

(01:18:12):
annoyed that these criminals have been let out of prison
to roam around without being watched, and the handling of
that by the Prime Minister himself, anthonyw but easy. His
leadership is increasingly being portrayed as being weak.

Speaker 13 (01:18:26):
Yes, and people are starting to pick up on that.

Speaker 18 (01:18:28):
So they are in a fair bit of trouble.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
This guy doesn't so when he started out, they said
completely unelectable, weird looking guy at the best of time.
Suddenly he's in play and I'm reading over the weekend
that he's going to scrap that Paris Agreement, the climate change.
He goes, there's no point in signing up to something
that's unrealistic, and he's probably right on that. Is he
more credible than he's ever been or is he sort
of winning but a fault.

Speaker 18 (01:18:52):
No, he's more credible than he's ever been. He's been
very measured, he's been working extremely hard, he's in the
media every day. Still not popular in the most left
leaning state, which is Victoria, but they don't need to win,
particularly in Victoria. I mean they'd like to clawback a
couple of seats from those tials. But in Queensland, New
South Wales and in Wa in particular, he is very

(01:19:15):
popular and the weaker Anthony alberneasiest portrayed the stronger pit
Button looks on issues just like the one you talked about,
which is, well, we're not going to sign up to
emission reductions by twenty thirty because you're not going to
get it right.

Speaker 3 (01:19:29):
Let me ask you this question. I was also reading
over the weekend. Let me just give you some of
the headlines. ABC reporting on Brumby's lacked accuracy and impartiality.
According to The Almudsman, senior seven journalist on leave amid
investigation into inappropriate behavior in OURL personality, Paul Kent drank
twenty one schooners before a led street brawl. Court told

(01:19:50):
and nine board chairman Peter Costello, having run over a
bloke and being in charge of a station that looks
completely dysfunctional, quits what's going on.

Speaker 18 (01:20:00):
Well, I've still got a job and I'm not in
the headline, so I'm pretty happy about that. Cascillo used
his shoulder to shirt. There's a saying in AFL called
shirt front, which is not a popular term in regard
to rugby, but it's when you hit someone straight up
in the chest with his shoulder. He dropped Peter Castello
dropped his shoulder into a reporter from The Australian who

(01:20:22):
was simply trying to ask him some questions about the
shonky behavior at Channel nine and lack of leadership over
one of their news bosses and what he was doing
to young female reporters who worked for him. So Costello
tried to bluff his way out of it and say
I never touched the boke. There's CCTV fit footage. There's

(01:20:43):
three other witnesses saw it and said, yes, you did,
and so he's had to resign. Well, Paul ken I
mean Paul Kent covers rugby league in Sydney. I mean
drinking twenty one skinners a beer is something you do
every day before lunch alone after lunch. It's been a
very strange time. The nine network in a lot of trouble.
Now they've got to plunder replacement.

Speaker 3 (01:21:03):
Exactly where I might go. Well, see Wednesday. It's the
price out of Australia. And by the way, the aforementioned
Andrew Giles, which is direction one ten, so direction ninety
nine is the one that affects us. It's you know
the people they boot out of Australia and it all
went pear shaped and we'll get the five oh one.
So they came up on Friday with Direction one ten
Giles for reasons that no one can understand outside of
the fact that he's elbows mate still has work. But

(01:21:25):
and when we last talked to the Prime Minister before
he took off to Fiji, he wasn't happy. But what
we can do about it, and we'll catch up with
him tomorrow, our Prime minister what he can do about
it as far as they can work out, basically nothing.
Sixteen two the Mike hosting Racist thirteen away from nine.
I don't know whether they congratulate Hamilton or not. They
were offering you a nineteen point nine percent rate rise.

(01:21:48):
A lot of people this long term draft planned. A
lot of people went, are you serious? Then they had
a bit of a think about it. Then they've come
up with sixteen point five and they go, well, look
could have been nineteen point nine. I think is that
a game? They've run it up the old flag polsy
how it goes, and then come up with something.

Speaker 12 (01:22:03):
What they really should said was it's going to be
fifty exactly and.

Speaker 3 (01:22:06):
Then sixteen dodged a bullet there, But then you got
the far North who were talking about sixteen point five,
and then they had to think about it, and they
found eight and a half million dollars worth of savings.
Suddenly it's five point one. So it's gone from sixteen
to five, which leads to a couple of questions, how
is it you just magically when you go sixteen point

(01:22:26):
five suddenly just fined eight and a half million dollars
you didn't find there before, and then it's down to
five point one percent? And how much of this is
just crazy old cost plus accounting and we're putting up
with it. By the way, it's very good piece of
reading over the weekend if you missed it by Alwyn Pool,
who has been around to the charter school game for ages.
It's in the Herald state Education's a vast failed experiment.

(01:22:49):
It's time for the system to change. This is one
hundred and fifty three million doums. Speaking to David Seymour
earlier on, so, I mean when you think about charter
schools and things the government does and say they turn
around education, or at least market they turn around the
education some of its Erica Stanford literacy. In the way
they're doing it, some of it's going to be charter schools,
So who do you reward or support for that? And
you know, as go for their fifteen percent next time

(01:23:10):
around they establishing fifty charter schools, fifteen would be new
thirty five are going to be converted from the state.
But he says the big habitual opponents, the teacher unions
in the Labor Party, have taken only a two point
strategy in their opposition. First is that charter schools were
failed experiment. Second, as if the thirty eight point two
five million a year for charter schools were spent on

(01:23:31):
state schools, then all would be well with the world.
These people take the New Zealand public for fools. The
last time charter schools were introduced, he writes, into New Zealand,
the opponents that model stated repeatedly they were not needed
because New Zealand had a world class education system. Because
this mantra had not been openly challenged before that approximately
seventy five percent of children were doing okay, that there

(01:23:52):
had been some historical truth to this claim. The claim
carried some weight back in twenty thirteen. In twenty twenty four,
the tides gone right out. The true state of affairs
is clear. In term four of twenty twenty three, only
fifty percent of kids went to school regularly. And then
it goes through and he cites some examples of successful
charter schools, how it can work and why he believes
it's a it's a winning formula. But look it up.

(01:24:14):
It's well worth reading. It's ten to nine.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
The my Costing Breakfast. We're the Partha news talk said Pipe.

Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
Please tell me, while all the councils have come up
with these rate rises, has it got anything to do
with the way the country was run for six years?
In a way? Yes, And I think also they've taken
advantage of the opportunity of inflation and everything being out
of control and the general zeitgeist that you expect a
bill in the mail that's a lot higher than it
was last year, and so all of a sudden they're
running the it's all come home to roost, and all

(01:24:43):
the pipes are broken, and all the roads don't work,
and all the public transport it's stuffed, and so we'll
need these gargantuine increases. And at the end of the day,
there's a vibe or a mood in the country that
everything's downtrodden, and therefore I suppose we have to pay
for it. There's a bit of that about it. Tell
you what is good news, and we haven't. And this
is a very good example of what we always hear
when it's bad and never hear when it's good. Gaspe

(01:25:04):
who do the fuel unlimiteds fall and twenty cents over
the last twenty eight days. Not a single person has
texted me about that. Not one person, not one news
story has said, hey, have you knows how the price
petrol's gone down? Isn't it good that the price of
petrol has gone down?

Speaker 18 (01:25:15):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
It has, and it's only ever have you seen the
price of petrol go up? It rose by twenty six
cents per later at the start of the year to April,
so April's been bad. Ever since it's been going down.
Diesel fell fourteen cents over the last twenty eight days.
Five cheapest petrol stations around the country. Hawks Bay in
Canterbury were unleaded ninety one. You'll get it around two forty,

(01:25:37):
So it's not bad. I shop around all that sort
of stuff. Usual story six minutes away from nine trending.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
Now we here st Warehouse, the home of big Brand skincare.

Speaker 3 (01:25:48):
Now the Canadian Grand Prix this morning won by Verstappen.
But that, as we talk with the lads earlier on,
is not really the story. He shouldn't have won on
Pol's Russell and Norris did well as well. Norris had
the lead for a while, and he had the lead
from speed. In other words, he was generally competitive. Then
the safety car came on and it all went wrong.

(01:26:10):
But apart from the show, that's not what they're talking
about in Canada at the moment. What they're talking about
is the national anthem. He did the good wark this morning?

Speaker 12 (01:26:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
Did he find anyone will know?

Speaker 20 (01:26:39):
I didn't see him, had a quick look. Didn't him
do anybody particularly interesting? It was raining, No, it wasn't
so I think you know, people would flash. Yeah, I
didn't want to stand out of their rain.

Speaker 3 (01:26:50):
Montreal has not done itself just well, I mean the
society obviously, but I'll tell you who this is in
the moment. But the weather seems problematic. It rained last year,
rained this year. It just doesn't look like a nice, bright,
sunny place in summer, Montreal. Anyway, this is talk. That's
what he calls himself talk. In real life. His name
is Nicholas user Or. He became a big deal when

(01:27:16):
his first single, Runaway to Mars, went to number one
on Spotify and the Global Virl fifty. He described he
describes himself as a wizard. He also describes himself as
eccentric and flashy and would rather make my own gold
sequin cape than wear a designer upfit. Now, is nothing
wrong with it? How is it there clapping for that?

(01:27:38):
That's what's wrong with Canada, isn't it? That's the Trudeau effect?
Doesn't it? Just clap for everybody? He'd rather make his
own gold sequin cape than wear a designer outfit. Aside
from the auto tune which he was using there, a
lot of people were also looking at his jumpsuit and
his footwear. So the jumpsuit, what would do? So it
was red? He had a red jumpsuit on and he

(01:28:00):
was wearing.

Speaker 20 (01:28:01):
And I think, are we I mean, we're not shaming
him to say that he doesn't really have the figure
to make a jumpsuit work.

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
He's enormous. He is enormous, and he doesn't look good
in a jumpsuit. But he was also wearing crocs, probably
the first person ever to sing the national anthem in
front of a global audience of a billion people, which
is what if one gets each week when they're racing
wearing bright white crocs.

Speaker 12 (01:28:23):
As opposed to Mark Anthony a few weeks ago in Miami.

Speaker 3 (01:28:35):
Said the bones in his neck when he's say, they
will look for about to pop out the side of
his head. He was good. See, some are good. Some
should stay at home, Some should never be invited in
the first place. Back tomorrow, Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
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