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March 9, 2025 89 mins

On the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show Podcast for Monday 10th of March, the Government is aiming to speed up land acquisitions for public infrastructure, and the Environment Court is on its way out. 

A Hamilton bar has re-increased their age restriction to 20-years-old after too many 18-year-olds smashed up the place. 

Andrew Saville and Jason Pine talk the Black Caps loss, the squash, and some Super Rugby in the Commentary Box. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the Mic asking
breakfast with the range rover villa designed to intrigue and
use togs dead bea.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Speeding up big infrastructure with incentive payments and no more
environment courts survey and well the survey has found that
the appetite for investment in this country is good. Good
news on passes as well at the supermarket. Got the
lads in the commentary box. Richard Arnold stateside gud Steve
Price mopping up in Australia, tasking welcome to the week
seven past six jan Toinetti was an obvious one I
would have thought to drop from such a critical portfolio.

(00:32):
Education gone. I'm not sure Willow jene Prime has now
got it. Is interested in much outside the Mary sphere
of her question line and the house is anything to
go by. But here is why it really doesn't matter.
This Hipkins reshuffle that was announced on Friday a state
of the Nation, and this reshuffle is fine if people
still didn't remember you as the architect of the economic
mismanagement just the short time ago. Now when Hipkins, as

(00:53):
he did, talked to the public service and jobs and
the economy, those were all things he wrecked, and he
was wrecking them just a year and half ago. Time
is a bigger player in any party's political fortunes as
a character or a personality, or a policy or an attitude.
That is why essentially governments in this country tend to
get in almost automatic two terms. Generally governments lose because
we've got sick of them. We certainly got sick of

(01:15):
the Labour Party seventeen through twenty three and in the
ensuing period of true carnage that's been laid bare, from
the OECD figures around recessions, to the fairy debarkle, to
the school lunches that were never funded. And the biggest
part of all of that trouble is the main architect,
or at least one of the three, the one who
stayed behind is now in charge of the joint Adirn
left the country for a reason, Hipkins. I'm assuming because

(01:36):
he couldn't get work anywhere else, but because not enough
water has gone under the bridge and or the current
government hasn't done anything to generate fatigue or anger. He's
fighting a losing cause. I mean, you could put Garndhy,
Michael Jordan and the Pope in charge of labour portfolios.
It would make no difference at this particular point in time.
Further complicating things is the broad understanding the economy is

(01:57):
coming right and if the wind blows and the stars
aligned by the time election year comes, we may actually
have growth, a level of prosperity and a sense of
long lost confidence. Match that with the memory of Hipkins
as the man in charge of all I don't know
the policemq education. He doesn't stand a chance. There might
even be an argument that if they aren't competitive, Hipkins

(02:17):
might get reshuffled himself.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
News of the World in ninety seconds on.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
An American Sunday where sadly the nutters were out one
headed gun was a bit too close to the White House,
so they shot them.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
Local police in Indiana contacted them, said it was suspicious
he'd managed to make his.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
Way all the way to literally right at the.

Speaker 3 (02:37):
Gates of the White House, where he was stopped by
armed police and injured in a shootout.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
They're also reflecting on the first fifty days that has
been Tropical Storm Donald.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
He's doing what he says he's gonna do. You know,
he's rattling the hornets nuts. So he's doing real great.

Speaker 6 (02:54):
I've held out the workers, help out the retirees.

Speaker 7 (02:57):
That's very important to me.

Speaker 8 (02:58):
Had too any few more about those jobs that they
weren't doing anything.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Then, in quite a bit going on on the continent
as well as the UK, Poland has announced the idea
that all the young men will get military training, which
has led to the Latvian president rolling out the conscription idea.

Speaker 9 (03:12):
The decision that we took and yes, indeed we had
quite a discussion back in twenty twenty two and a
decision was taken by the parliament, but also many other
European countries need to follow that.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Then in Britain, Rachel Reeves is lining up benefit cats,
which is not traditionally a labor thing to do, but
when you got as many layabouts as they do.

Speaker 10 (03:30):
Two hundred thousand people among the two point eight million
have said that they would work tomorrow with.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
The rate support.

Speaker 11 (03:37):
We've got a duty to put that support in place.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
That will be better for.

Speaker 10 (03:40):
Them and it will get the bill down for the country.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
But inside a little bit of bother inside the Reform
Party between a blow called Rupert Low and Nigel Farajo
of a bullying alegation.

Speaker 12 (03:50):
The Chairman has instructed a independent investigation by a case
that's the right and proper thing to do, that will
run its course.

Speaker 13 (03:59):
We'd all rather this happened.

Speaker 12 (04:00):
But imagine, imagine if we imagine if we hadn't been
open and transparent about this.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
And they're marking the fifth anniversary of COVID.

Speaker 14 (04:07):
I can remember it clearly to the day to be
frank So both herself and my sister. They were rushed
to hospital on the same day. I was at home
on my own. I called him a visit, no goodbye.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
It Finally, Amazon, they've had to respond after various rumors
went around regarding James Bond. Random social media accounts were
starting industry insiders that Amazon was looking to make James
Bond a female, could be a Double seven spinoff, could
be an asexual. So by way of response to Amazon
says they are committed to keeping the spirit of Bond alive,
and that means he has to be British or at
least from the Commonwealth, and he has to be male.

(04:44):
Whose news of the world of ninety sixers.

Speaker 7 (04:46):
Are well, I'm trying to watch this morning the.

Speaker 2 (04:47):
Most exciting bit of Chinese news I'll have after break,
but they didn't get a CPI figure out for February
that fell into negative territory. Consumer Price Index fell into
negative territory for the first time since January. So that'll
will boost the spirits. But wait till you hear what
they've done with the tariffs. Twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
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Speaker 15 (05:10):
Talks EV.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
You got a whole bunch of poles not going on
actually this morning. Now the Libs are expecting a new
leader for their party in Canada. The reason I mentioned
Canada is that the Chinese have Hoeden to Canada tariff
wise one hundred percent on Canadian rape, seed, oil, oil, cakes,
and peas, adding that a twenty five percent levy would
be placed on aquatic products and pork as of the

(05:34):
twentieth of March. That's in retaliation because Canada imposed one
hundred percent import tariffs on the evs. So they also
put a twenty five percent tariff on imports of steel
and aluminium products from China. So it's now China, Mexico, Canada,
the United States. It's spreading like wildfire. Fifteen past six
in Devon Puns Management Bridgsmith. Good Monday morning.

Speaker 13 (05:55):
I'm morning to my job.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Numbers went to flash state side.

Speaker 16 (05:58):
That's right, Yeah, they disappointed in February. So non farm
payrolls are one hundred and fifty one thousand, so that
was following a downward the revised one hundred and twenty
five thousand questions in January, but below expectations for one
hundred and seventy thousand. A health care that led the
way in job creation as usual, retail that she saw
of decline, but the biggest drag, perhaps not surprisingly is
the federal government ten thousand jobs lost.

Speaker 13 (06:21):
And now the interesting point is.

Speaker 16 (06:22):
This is actually before the wave of Elon Musk's dog
related laughs to have come through, so that'll be in
the next support.

Speaker 13 (06:29):
But we did get a bit of a sight.

Speaker 16 (06:31):
There was a separate report last week which showed laughs
under his initiative have climbed above sixty thousand. Overall AFPs
in the US one hundred and seventy two thousand February,
and that's up are not so small, two hundred and
forty five percent from January. It's the high since July
twenty twenty. It's actually not just the government's cutting back
Mike Retail that saw thirty.

Speaker 13 (06:51):
Nine thousand cuts last month as well.

Speaker 16 (06:53):
So the used jobs market's not falling off a cliff
just yet, but there's plenty of data to suggest its weakening.
You've got then employment rate that picked up to four
point one percent, everage annuality, earnings that they were softer
than forecast, and the ever interesting one was labor force
participation rate that's at the lowest since January twenty twenty three.
So you need a lot of Americans getting discouraged out there.

(07:15):
Those holding part time positions for economic reasons that jumped
half percentage point eight percent, and it's the high since
October twenty twenty one. And mean, while were getting plenty
of mixed reports on the economy, the fed out of
their page book last week that talks about economic conditions
and businesses. You mentioned tariffs and the other moving feasts there.
They became increasingly concerned about that, no surprise. So the

(07:37):
Economic summary mentioned tariffs forty five times. So Trump's certainly
rolling the dice on the economy.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Might okay, and Costco they're part of the trade down
story or the buydown story.

Speaker 13 (07:48):
Yeah that's right.

Speaker 16 (07:48):
So yeah, them, along with format had benefited from consumers
trading down, so the actually doing pretty well themselves, but
they did sound out some warnings that their endings actually
fell short of estimates. They did warn that shoppers could
become increasingly more selective as they navigate high prices but
also tariffs. The revenues are up nine percent to sixty

(08:09):
three point seven, but the in US is quite strong.
E commerce sales are up twenty one percent and the
verst four.

Speaker 13 (08:14):
Weeks of the Court of started up well.

Speaker 16 (08:16):
But they said that shoppers are shown the willingness to spend,
but being incredibly choiceful when it comes to doing so.
But yeah, that pressing here. They have been twenty eight
new stores. We're getting a second one in New Zealand
as well. And it also benefiting from their so called
treasure hunt structures, so as anyone who's been out to
Westgate and Orkland will know how they keep moving location,
their products keep customers get guessing. Suppose maybe a but

(08:39):
like Trump, there's method to the madness. But yeah, they
are very aware of the tariff's impact. They get a
lot of produce from offshore. In fact, around a bout
a third of your selves relies on products from elsewhere,
including China, Mexico and can and they said they might
have to respond yet depending on where this all goes.
But to be interesting to see, I suppose the Chinese
are not necessary to cut their prices in fat. Walmart

(09:01):
has also already done asked that question. They've had a
lukewarm response, not surprisingly, but your costcos years they were
down six percent on Friday, but it's stillup around about
thirty five percent over the past twelve months.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Okay, zero point two good or not?

Speaker 16 (09:14):
So this is a Eurozone economy, I mean, a bit
of a mixed bag, really slightly better than the initial reading,
so er point two percent for the final quarter of
the year. That's slid from point four percent in the
third quarter. But it did mean that the aur zones
expanded every quarter in twenty twenty four overall up about
point nine percent for the year, so that's more than
double twenty twenty three.

Speaker 13 (09:33):
So that's good.

Speaker 16 (09:34):
But we have got some countries slowing down, including Germany
and Finland to Island still doing pretty well. It just
shows you how that growth is still pretty tepid, and
that's why the ECB cut rates last week. I mean
the auto sector that's had a bit of a reprieve,
but we don't know what else is in store for
Europe terrifies. I suppose there are some positives. Look at
German the new government. They they've agreed to increase defense

(09:55):
spinning as as the rest of Europe. So that's all
a bit of a shot in the arm potentially for
the economy. They've also got this five ondred billion special
infrastructure fun they've announced as well.

Speaker 13 (10:04):
But yeah, a bit of a double edged sword.

Speaker 16 (10:07):
When you think of higher defense spending and also tariffs
potentially going to drive inflation high.

Speaker 13 (10:12):
So yeah, but a bit to balance.

Speaker 2 (10:14):
They might give me some numbers.

Speaker 16 (10:16):
Yes, So the Dow was in the green on Friday.
That's up up half per cent forty two eight zero
one s and P five hundred also half percent. NASA
c cup point seven percent eighty one nine six foot
he was flat in the UK eight six seven nine
nick I down two point two percent thirty six eight
eight seven A six two hundred across the TAA has
been down one point eight per cent seven nine four
eight insedex fifty we were down point two percent twelve

(10:39):
three nine nine. Goal was down three bucks twenty nine
hundred and nine one ounce oil up sixty eight cents
sixty seven spot four. In the currency markets, the Key
we was weak against the US dollar fifty seven point
one flat aunts austrain dollar ninety point six. We were
lower against the British pound forty four point two. Japanese
n eighty four point five were lower there as well.

Speaker 17 (11:00):
Well.

Speaker 13 (11:00):
This week plenty going on Mike.

Speaker 16 (11:01):
We've got more data on the jobs market or job
openings here in the US. We've got inflation figures with
Consumers Center in the US. We've got the back of
Cannele at our meeting as well. We've got Ossie consuming
business confidence in locally manufacturing, print, retail card spinning, and
another site on the retail sector.

Speaker 13 (11:17):
Four year results from Briscos.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
It's all go, go well, match se yous and Greg
Smith Devin Funds Management aspeaking of the trade doown as
we were with Costcar moment Ago Gap, who are in
the same sort of market this year through the roof
they blew away expectations. Old Navy at letter in the
Banana Republic, he doesn't love a bit of Banana Republic.
A highest gross margin in twenty years. Can't argue that's
six twenty one. We're rolling for Monday morning here on

(11:39):
the Mike Hosking.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
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Speaker 15 (11:50):
Talks at be.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Interesting over I mean obviously the weather, which in some
parts turned out to be worse than they thought, but
mainly it turned out not to be as bad as
they thought, so Steve on that late. But the outflow
of that was that the election's not going to be
held now until May, so that's been confirmed. Poll out
this morning Coalition thirty nine percent primary versus thirty two
for Labour, two party preferred fifty one forty nine for

(12:13):
the Coalition. WA had a vote over the weekend and
we'll talk more with Steve about that as well. That
was fascinating to the extent that the Liberal comeback didn't happen,
so the Libs are going to be freaking out only
for and this morning's poll only forty five percent of
voters believed Dutton was ready to be prime minister. So
none of that makes for good liberal reading. So late

(12:35):
more later on six twenty five.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
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Speaker 2 (12:42):
Now the NBA made more news than usual over the weekend.
So first, Lebron he has a crack at Stephen A.

Speaker 13 (12:47):
Smith.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Lebron gets in his face after a game. Cameras called
him yelling at Smith for criticizing his son too much.
Smith was having none of it. Lebron, he says, puts
the expectation for Bronnie on the media, so it was
his fault. Then we come to check. I was Bicklay
who went on a messive print because ESPN analyst Kendrick
Perkins said the Lakers saved the NBA season by going
on a winning streak.

Speaker 18 (13:07):
I saw a food idiot on TV talking about the Lakers,
save the NBA, save the NBA. Yeah, yeah, he's an idiot,
the food. But you know he is what's his name, Shaq,
which when you're talking about Kendrick Perkins, Oh, he said
the Lakers. First of all, the Lakers have had a
great two weeks. He said, the Lakers save the NBA season.
That's to call them foods On the other network, which
we're gonna be working for the next year, that's all.

Speaker 13 (13:29):
They talk about.

Speaker 18 (13:31):
And first of all, I want all the smoke. I
don't know what's the when I walked by the grid
yard or anything like that. Y'all are idiots because y'all
talk about the Lakers and the Wars all the time.
Y'all are talking about who's in shuckond place. That's the
reason I get pissed. That's cause you fools on other
networks which were gonna become become foods next year. We
been working on that network. Between that and it's lame

(13:53):
ass Lebron Michael Jordan debate, which is lame? I said,
I've said for years, the only people talk about and Michael,
it's people on television who got no talent to talk
about anything out right.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Sir Kendrick, he's not having that. He says, Hey, NBA
on T and T might want to tell that senior
citizen Charles Bikelay that I'll be around when you see
an idiot or a fool in person, make sure he
keep that same energy. He can come playing with me
if you want. And I'm address his ass. I'm address
his ass like the numbers on a house. It's quite
a good line. I'm going to address his ass like
a numbers on a house, straight from the four o

(14:28):
nine Homeboy, and we buy None and feed all. See,
none of that makes any sense to me. I don't
even know what that means. But I know what I'm
going to address his ass like the numbers.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
On a house.

Speaker 19 (14:39):
Do you know what that means?

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Yeah, I'm gonna dress his ass like the numbers on
a house. Like you address your ass like the numbers
on a house.

Speaker 19 (14:46):
How are the numbers on a house?

Speaker 2 (14:47):
I don't know what your numbers on a house are.
I'm gonna dress your ass, he said, take that mother
news for you. In a couple of.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Months, mis Game State fold again, gaging and Idle the
Mike asking breakfast with Bailey's real estate finding the buyers
others can't use togsad be.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
Just to explain WA Western Australia. There was a swing
to the Conservatives, as expected because the last time was
a COVID election. This was when Mark McGowan was the
Premiery subsequently quit. The guy who took over was his deputy,
guy called Roger Cooks of Roger Cook's been elected for
the first time last time during COVID. They won fifty
three or fifty nine seats. It was just embarrassing and
the Coalition were virtually wiped out. So the expectation on

(15:30):
Saturday night was it was all on big swing coming
and they're going to pick up a whole bunch of seats.
Didn't happen. Swing happened, but not enough to tip the seats.
A lot of the swing the preferences broke to the Greens.
So the coalition had got a lot to think about.
And as I say, Steve will do more of this.
After thirty this morning, twenty three minutes away from seven

(15:53):
there we got the hacking news out. What a dreadful
story that was, wasn't it when they announced it. Over
the weekend, new imre Richard Land the States in a
moment any time back here more good news for the economy.
So we've got supermarkets. They've seen the lowest increase in
supply costs since twenty one. This is the Grocery Supplier Index.
Supplies charged on average one point eight percent more in
the year of February, so that's not a bad number.

(16:14):
That's the first time we've seen anything below two percent
since July of twenty one. Infmetrics principle economist Brad Olsen's
with us bred very good morning to you.

Speaker 20 (16:21):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
Have we settled into a stable period here.

Speaker 20 (16:25):
I don't know if we'd yet call it stable only
because the last couple of months the annual increase has
been slightly above two percent, so there's still a little
bit of volatility, but it's volatile around two percent, so
that's a lot more encouraging that. You know, either side
of that two percent line, it does look like those
supply cost increases are at a more sensible level and

(16:47):
certainly in line with where things have been in the
back before inflation rarely got ripped roaring. Those supply costs
are still increasing, they're just a lot slower, and I
think that is generally helpful when it comes to that
price to the probably most importantly as well, we are
still seeing that the likes of produce costs are showing
a bit more of their normal seasonality. You know, when

(17:08):
there has been a good growing season, there's more supply
on the market. That generally means that costs aren't quite
as high. On farm costs have continued to come back,
So all of that is encouraging us. It's not perfect,
but it's in a much better position.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
And can we explain like dairy will be up because
we're selling more at higher prices chocolate, coffee, We know
the story with climate, et cetera. Can we explain all
this or we're not there yet either.

Speaker 20 (17:34):
A lot of things. I think we can. We do
have a fairly good understanding of why they're going up.
And I think what the difference is is go back
a couple of years and just that everything was increasing.
It's sort of a fairly similar but rapid clip. Now
you've got a few more specific items that are increasing
by often quite large magnitudes, but they are often driven
by global supply things. So you know, you note the

(17:57):
likes of dairy we saw again this month that the
of butter was a key driver, but also rising beef
prices globally means that, you know, there's a bit more
pressure on what you pay for beef in the soupermarkets locally.
But and I think this is where it got interesting.
You know, the likes of coffee and chocolate we had,
you know, we've got good explanations. We've seen that supply

(18:19):
globally has been restricted. But a few more items as
well that we just keep our eyes on a bit
more cautiously. The likes of noodles, spaghetti, baked beans, those
are not generally quite as inflationary, and so the fact
that there's been an increase, we just go, look, there's
obviously still a bit of pressure in the system. It's
at a better position, but we haven't taken our eye
off the ball yet.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Those two and a half thousand products have increased in cost?
Is that normal?

Speaker 11 (18:42):
A lot?

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Not many.

Speaker 20 (18:45):
It's sort of in a lower position for what a
February has been the last couple of years. I think,
you know, the reference point is twenty twenty one. At
the moment, that's when things are a bit more normal,
bit more stable. So the number of increasing items isn't
nearly as bad as it has in the last couple
of years. It's still a bunt what it was back
twenty nineteen, twenty twenty sort of thing. But again I

(19:06):
think that's where we're trying to find this new normal.
We're not going back to twenty nineteen, but also we're
not staying stuck in twenty twenty two. So sort of
back in the right realm, I think, is the position.
We'd say it is.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Always a pleasure. Bradley go Well, brad Emilson and for
Metrics Principal Economists nineteen minutes away from Sevenski I was
picking the dow Common de Commission over the weekend. My word,
what a wonderful crop we're getting at the moment, pears, apples, figs, courgettes.
I can do no wrong in the field. By the way,
at eleven thirty this morning, New Zealand time, we're going
to find out who the I assume it's Mark Carney.

(19:39):
I could be wrong, but we're going to find out
who the new leader of the Liberal Party in Canada is.
Why this is important is because since Trudeau quit because
he was fantastically unpopular, Trump arrived and then Trump called
Canada the fifty first state of America and started insulting them,
and so the government's popularity has gone through the roof,

(20:00):
and so what was a foregone conclusion is now no
longer such. And so if Mark Carney's the new leader,
there's a genuine contest to be had. But that's later
on this morning, eighteen to two.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
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Speaker 2 (20:18):
Just to explain my apologies, sir Mark Canney, if you
don't know, the name, was the former head of Bank
of England, which I always found out interesting when they
turned to politics. Brash has been a case here, of course,
but when he was running the Bank of England. So
he wants to be the head of the governing party,
the left leaning party in Canada. Did he take his
left leaning view of the world and on the Bank
of England that way? You see what I mean. They're

(20:38):
supposed to be independent until they're not. Anyway, he's a
favorite to take the job.

Speaker 21 (20:42):
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Peace of mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (20:48):
Richard, A very good morning to you. What do you
make a budget battle this week? Who would have.

Speaker 22 (20:52):
Thought, oh, yes, there's going to be another rollercoast a
few days with time running short for a spending bill too?
Does this I'm familiar? A government shut down. That is
the last thing, of course, that Trump wants through his
new regime. Midnight Friday, here is the deadline. So President
Trump and Speaker Johnson pushing for a stopgap measure that
would keep things to float until the end of September. However,

(21:13):
some key Republicans in the House have refused to back
this kind of short term measure in the past. Now
that Republicans run everything, what are they going to do?
A stop gap would lock into place the Biden priorities
for most of this year, so this would be I
guess the surrender by Republicans. Trump has posted quote, I
am working with the Great House Republicans, so pleading hardliners

(21:34):
to back him. This short term measure, says Trump, will
give him time to work out his tax cutting plan
that will be even tougher to get through the Congress.
So Trump is calling for support, not clear he's going
to get it. He had some of the hardliners in
his own party over for a meeting at the White House.
Some of them left that meeting saying again to think
about it. Meantime, the Trump team cabinet members are all

(21:55):
over the airwaves today claiming the level of pain economic
pain caused by the on and off Trump terrace is
going to be relatively minor. Really, thousands and thousands of
dollars more for a new car going to be minum,
says the Treasury Secretary Scott Bcent of this.

Speaker 19 (22:11):
There's going to be a short period of time where
there'll be some higher prices on certain products.

Speaker 15 (22:17):
It's not inflation, that's nonsense.

Speaker 22 (22:19):
So inflated prices, not inflation. Finally, Trump is downplaying the
now widely reported rift between Elon Musk and his chainsaw
cutters and Secretary of State Mircer Rubio. At they closed
door cabinet session the other day, Trump was asked about this.

Speaker 9 (22:36):
That's potentially is teen Secretary of Rubio and Secretary dot Flash.

Speaker 18 (22:39):
I was there.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
You're just a trouble maker, and you're not supposed to
be asking that question because we're talking about the World Cup.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
So it's all piece of love.

Speaker 22 (22:47):
Behind closed doors. Rubio was teed off about the sacking
or sackings at USAID, which was meant to be his domain.
You have fired nobody, said Musk.

Speaker 13 (22:57):
Rubio.

Speaker 22 (22:58):
What about the fifteen hundred State Department people who took
the buyouts? You want to rehire those people, Elon, just
so you can make a show of firing them. Begin
SNL the Comedy Show had this take with their opening
satirical spot last night.

Speaker 17 (23:10):
And can't have you fighting with Elon?

Speaker 19 (23:12):
Okay, I need you to be my good little Marco.

Speaker 9 (23:16):
Mister Trump, Do you think I'm gonna stand here and
let you call me that?

Speaker 5 (23:20):
You're right, boy?

Speaker 22 (23:23):
The real Trump, Say's future doge cats will be made
with a scalpel, not the chainsaw that Musk was waving about.
So seeing the elon taken down half a.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Pig, and what a tragedy with hackman story.

Speaker 22 (23:34):
Gosh, what a heartrending saga this turned out to be. Yeah,
you know. Mystery surrounded the death of the great actor
and his wife and one of their dogs after their
remains were found late last month in their home. Now
we find that Gene Hackman's wife died of hunter virus.
This is a This is a virus that is transmitted
through the droppings of mace and rats. The actor's wife

(23:56):
was sixty five years of age. She'd been something of
her health, not urging her husband to keep fit through
bike riding and yoga. Now investigators in New Mexico say
it seems she died some days before Hackman, who had
significant advanced Alzheimer's. They're speculating that maybe he didn't even
know that his wife had died at their place. Then
he passed away from a heart attack, and one of

(24:17):
their dogs seemingly suffered from starvation. So I guess some
questions remain unanswered, but all rather shocking.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
Yes, it is all right, might see in the middle
of the word appreciate it. Richard Alstad. So the other thing
that the US got involved with over the weekend was
around they goin to destroy ran, they goin to slash
the oil exports to a trickle. This is pssant again
the aforementioned maximum pressure campaign tanker Rand's economy. If I
was an Iranian, I'd get all my money out now,
so he said. Eleven away from seven.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Range Rover Villa News
Togs dead be I did have.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
The best piece of reading for you. It was on
terrace as in Central Otigo. But that got you serped.
Not that that's not a good piece to read. It
is a very good piece to read, but it got
your souped. Late yesterday by George Brandes. George Brandess of
you don't remember the name. He was a whole bunch
of things in Australian politics, but he was the former
High Commissioner to the UK, former liberal senator, former Attorney general. Anyway,

(25:09):
he wrote this fantastic piece how American liberalism lost its
way and handed Trump a path to victory. Basically what
went wrong with the left, and he quotes the New
York Times columnists to go called Nick Christoff, who wrote
a book called Chasing Hope. Too often we are willing
to embrace people who don't look like us, but only
if they think like us. Sums it up? Well, doesn't it?
The Trump phenomenon, he writes, didn't come out of nowhere?

(25:31):
What does it tell us about the Democrats that they
went backwards among every single disempowered democrat demographic of which
they consider themselves champions Blacks, Latino's, working class men and women,
the champions of diversity have become the enforces of conformity
in language and attitudes and narratives of history across every
cultural landscape and the course of two generations. Liberalism, a

(25:53):
political philosophy whose genesis has a commitment to individual freedom,
has mutated into one which demands adherence to orthodox and
is the ruthlessly intolerant of deviations from its world view.
The doe eyed, guitar strumming flower children of the sixties
had become by the twenty twenties the flint eyed, pitchfork
clutching puritans of American Gothic. Where did American liberalism go

(26:14):
wrong by forgetting that liberalism is at heart a philosophy
whose paramount value is freedom. Very well thought, isn't it
well worth looking up? How American liberalism lost its way
and handed Trump a path to victory six minutes away
from seven.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
All the ins and the outs.

Speaker 23 (26:32):
It's the fiz with business fiber take your business productivity
to the next level.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
I should tell you. Actually the piece is interested in
Tarifs one because I love Tarras. But Mike thought, who's
my old mate from seven sharp days? I assume he
must work for the New Zealand Herald these days. But
he he pitched this one up and it's the classic
nimbiism in Tarras, which is a fantastic part of the world.
Last heard, of course, opposing the international airport, which is

(26:58):
desperately needed in the central out of a tiger because
it's going gangbusters. They've also, it turns out they've rejected
wind farms, they've rejected wildly pine, they rejected the airport,
and now they're railing against plans for an open cast
gold mine. So basically they want nothing.

Speaker 19 (27:12):
They're not paying offering the McDonald's there.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
And they're probably going to God forbid they try and
put a McDonald's into terrace, you know, so just leave
us alone as the terrors. Where anyway, where was I
five minutes away from seven for the inns and the outs.

Speaker 23 (27:25):
It's the fizz with business fiber, take your business productivity
to the next level.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Worth looking at investors, because where the market goes, Trump goes.
Of course, even though he said deliberately over the weekend
he's not even looking at the markets. I'm not even
looking at the markets. And when you say something like that,
you know what a pile of crap. So since Feb nineteen,
the first announcement of tarists on specific sectors, not countries,
six point one trillion trillion has been wiped off the

(27:52):
US stock market. So is that a lot of money?
It's quite a lot of money. And around two weeks
it is the value of the GDP of the UK
on hoop by just like that, or if you don't
like that, it's the combined value of Meta and Tesla
and Netflix gone. Big part of that was the sell
off and Video of course, as well as Tesla. Tesla's
in real, real trouble. And I keep telling you, I've

(28:15):
told you, I mean say whatever you want about Trump
and Elon stuff. But have I or have I not
been consistent for about half a dozen years now when
I've said Elon's a nut job and why you would
want to buy one of his cars, I've got no
idea because the guy's not paying any attention at all
to anything that's got to do with cars. But be
that as it may, the investors finally worked that out.
Of course, anyway, Teessla been wiped out in terms of value.

(28:37):
Second thing, they're worried about jobs. Fibruary Dart one hundred
and fifty one thousand jobs were added, which is not
a lot, down forty percent on last year. Manufacturing sector
is also struggling at the moment. The p OFMI down
to fifty point three and twenty eight percent lower than
March of twenty twenty one, so that's not going well.
Fifty point three is still in expansionary territory, but only
just POI factory is producing less, so that the hits

(28:59):
the economic So then you've got the GDP growth right
dropping from three point one to two point three, and
there's a lot of talk about whether that be Now
what would it be? It would be their Q because
they do numbers a lot more often than we do.
It's probably Q one of twenty twenty five is looking negative,
so they do a live GDP number and that live

(29:21):
GDP number for Q one at the moment is looking negative.
So we're going back this right. So that's the Well,
the problem is our problem, isn't it. So now we
come to infrastructure in this country. The government's big investment
conference Thursday and Friday, all the people from all over
the world. We're getting the red carpet rolled out. So
as part of that infrastructure spending, we need to speed
that up. How's that going to work. We'll look at

(29:41):
the new rules and regulations after the news, which is
next here a news talk, sad.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
News, opinion and everything in between, the mic costing, Breakfast
with a Veta, retirement, communities, Life your Way, news talks.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Heead be only seven past seven. So the government speeding
up the way in which buyers land for infrastructure projects
will have a premium payment scheme. You sell quickly, you'll
get more objections will no longer be heard by the
Environment Court. Instead, you'll wander off to the appropriate ministry
or the Council. Public Words Act expert in partner at
Denton's Kensington's one, Matthew Oucleston's whether U's Matthew morning.

Speaker 11 (30:15):
Good morning mate?

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Makes sense?

Speaker 11 (30:18):
Yeah, I think there's some real game changes in here.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Isn't there a premium already? Like in the government comes
along to me and goes, look, we'll laugh for you
a million dollars and I'll go, look, make a one
point one and we're done. I mean, that's that's a premium,
isn't it. Whether you talk about it or.

Speaker 11 (30:31):
Not, does a premium In the legislation it's called additional
compensation and there's two types, but the relatively small amounts.
There's a maximum of fifty thousand dollars if it's your
own house, or twenty five thousand dollars in other situations.
So given a lot of commensation amounts that we're talking,
those don't really amount to much of an incentive. So

(30:53):
I think the proposal to increase those quite significantly up
to one hundred and fifty and ninety two thousand, will
make a.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Difference, right, So that's material. What will also make the
most difference that or the lack of environment caught and
you're dealing with the ministry or council.

Speaker 11 (31:10):
I think the incentive payments will help a bit. But
some of the big delays that we've seen have been
around the fact that objections go to the Environment Court,
and that's a whole process that courts through a busy
it's a lot of other jurisdiction as well. So if
we can keep these objections out of the Environment Court
and have them dealt with directly by the acquiring authority,

(31:33):
I think that will make a difference. And for some
landowners they've said, look, I want to engage directly with
the Minister or with the Council. I want to speak
to that body, and so it sounds like this will
give them a bit more of that direct access. I
think that will make a big difference.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Sure, well, that part's good, but I mean the Environment
Court is used not by those people but by third parties.
Ago We'll hold on as a wetland there and I
need an argument about it.

Speaker 13 (31:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (31:57):
We've seen a range of objections. The more challenging ones
have been where people have said I'm essentially challenging the
nature of the project. You know, it should be a
tunnel that should go to the west to the north,
and those decisions have often already been made through the
r and a process, and so it is a bit
crazy that there's an opportunity to challenge those again to

(32:19):
the ejection process. And that's something else that the government
is looking at changing the How.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Are they going to deal with it? How are they
going to deal with the uniformity on councils. Why wouldn't
one council take a completely different view from another council
unless you can somehow manage that.

Speaker 11 (32:33):
Yeah, that is hard. You know, you've got the government
on the one hand, and then a whole number of
other councils on the other hand, each are able to
influence the legislation themselves, and so you do see some
variation and that that is part of the issue. People
have said, when I deal with different councils, I get
quite different experiences. I'm not sure we're ever going to

(32:56):
be able to change all of that. I think as
part of these wider reforms that government is looking at
setting out some more best practice across the entire public
works sector. But of course the government is only responsible
for the government side of it, not the council side.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yeah, exactly good, and so I appreciate it. Matthew Matthew Augustin,
who's with Denton's Kensington Swan talk to the Minister himself,
Chris Bishop after seven to thirty men time at ten
minutes past seven. Government also this week Big International Investment
Summer opens Thursday, rolls out the red cap and the
big picture. Basically, our doors are open and we want
your money and to report out in the lead up

(33:34):
to that show's investors are hungry for opportunities, so investment
companies and funds across Australasia. This is took partner this
particular study. Northern Infrastructure Forum Executive Director Barney irvines with
us on this. Barney, very good morning to you.

Speaker 17 (33:47):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
What did you specifically ask.

Speaker 17 (33:51):
We asked primarily about the levels of interest in the
New Zealand. He's in the market and just to clarify
these there are some New Zealand and Australia based investors
and funds, but a number of them were also very
much international players.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Good so one of the problems though this coming weekend
is I understand it Thursday and Fridays there's only four
PPPs up from the government's point of view, on one
of which is a road and there's a school and
a prisoner. There are we offering enough up to invest in.

Speaker 17 (34:23):
Look, that is really the big challenge. And so coming
back to what you were saying before, Yes, there is
interest in the New Zealand market. There's sort of a
positive glow around the New Zemder market and investors really
like the signals. But the bottom line is that they
need to see a pipeline of high quality funded projects
and if they don't see that, that glow will will

(34:47):
very likely fade pretty pretty steadily. And so yes, we
would need to see more than more than four projects
and we are going to have to.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
Okay, having said that, then so you got twofold to
two things. You got one are they going to spend?
But the other one is we're open for business. What
your report suggests is they know we are open for business.
Is that fair?

Speaker 15 (35:12):
Absolutely, they've got that. They've certainly got that message. And
you know that the efforts at building building sort of
biopartisan support in the focus on that has been received
very well as well.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Good stuff Barnie good insight, Barney Irvine who's with the
Northern Infrastructure Forum Executive director Chris Bishop, who I alluded
to a moment ago, also happens to be a big
player in this big investment conference coming this weekend, and
there are only I can't remember them all. I mean,
it's not that many to remember, so it's my fault.
But there's a road, there's a prison. I think there's
a school or some school project, but it's hardly like,

(35:47):
oh my god, look at the stuff we've rolled out.
So we'll get the inside from Chris Bishop. Shortly thirteen
past seven, Like last week, you said an analyst on
you or had an analyst on your show, he said,
there've been quite a decrease in the price of crude
and we'd see chup of fuel at the pumps. Can
I assume over the week in the price of oil
suddenly went up fifty cents a barrel, so decreases and
now null and void. Michael, No, you cannot, because you've

(36:08):
got to look at the overall price WTI this morning.
That's at sixty seven brents at seventy, so it's way
down on what it has been, had been well up
into the eighties and the high seventies, so it's at
that level still. You don't want to follow the oil price,
you know, twenty cents here and thirty cents there, so
ninety one on average is two sixty five and ninety
five to two eighty four and ninety eight three oh

(36:29):
one diesels one nine five. There's still relatively good prices
at the moment, So fill your boots. Thirteen past the
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a Monday morning sixteen past seven from the old put
it on theyll Come file events mean money. So between

(36:49):
the sixteenth and nineteenth of January, Auckland hosted Luke Combs
and Sale GP.

Speaker 13 (36:54):
What was that worth?

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Five million? Is the answer? Extra eight thousand rooms in
the hotels over four days hotel my general manager Clinton Farley.
But this morning, good morning to you two. So these
numbers that we give, can you in the hotel business
and the tourism business generally, can you see it? Can
you feel?

Speaker 13 (37:09):
Is it obvious?

Speaker 4 (37:11):
Yes that they can obviously. The discussion this morning obviously
is about the sale DP and the comes impact and
they were significant demand drums and obviously over the last
last few months kicking off the year really strongly. Obviously,
that combined with our usual inbound international demand over that
period it was really cracker season.

Speaker 2 (37:33):
I was going to ask you about that. How much
is the event driven in tourism or does New Zealand
just sell itself?

Speaker 4 (37:42):
I think obviously New Zealand does sell itself internationally by
the arms of obviously Tourism New Zealand, the regional tourism
organizations throughout the country and obviously sharing on on social
media channels and word of mouth, et cetera. But the
major events like Luke Holmes and Sale GP are really

(38:03):
key to assisting the country to have a real year
round visitor demand driven model.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
And do you take a side on this? I note
this bid tax debate is back. I mean Luke Colmes
was coming anyway, right, so why would I pay a
tax on a bed? But maybe Sale GP wasn't. Do
we need a bid tax to pay for stuff to
come here?

Speaker 20 (38:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (38:23):
The bed takes argument is a really good one, Mike. Obviously,
tourism is our number one key GDP driver for the country.
And when you think about it like that, there's a
huge amount of GST that's taken from visitors to Alta
or even visitors traveling Key. He's traveling New Zealand, So

(38:43):
I guess first and foremost, the questions could be why
can't tourism be funded via a little percentage of GST,
understanding that GEST really drives the economy. But then second question,
if the government is not willing to kind of go
spare a little bit of that GST, then the only
other option is to really consider some sort of bed levy.

(39:05):
Where I guess the visitor industry sits in general, is
that that needs to be some sort of national bet
levy because what we don't want happening is international people
arriving into New Zealand and they pay one percentage in
Auckland and another percentage in Rota Rule and another percentage
in Queenstown. It's just a messy visitor experience. What we

(39:26):
need is something simple that people can understand. And whether
it be a bed levee or anything else, it just
needs to be something that's unified throughout the country.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Just while I've got you, are you talked about a
good summer? What's your room rate? Has it gone up?
And what's your occupancy? And has that gone up?

Speaker 4 (39:43):
Yeah? Well, occupancy wise over the whole city, I believe
it was that that is seventeen percent increase over the
city over those two key event dates. And yes, of
course room rates do go up in higher demand periods.
I guess it's that old supply and demand model. But
I think what we need to also remember is the
winter periods in Auckland as well as New Zealand are

(40:06):
very tough. There wasn't there wasn't a lot of hotels
that made good money over winter last year, many some
in fact running very close to the line. So yes,
they do make money when it's busy and demand strong. However,
over those winter months it does become very challenging. And
just keeping in mind that we have huge teams of

(40:27):
people that we employ that we need to maintain employment
throughout the year as well.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
All right, Clinton, I appreciate your time. Clinton Farley, Hotel Britain,
General Manager. Did Winston have the best idea of the weekend?
More in a Moment seven.

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So whatever you want right about Trump, but his demeanor
and his influences now genuinely global. Why well, Peter, Dutton.

(41:55):
Peter Dutton has been accused of his Trumpian stance on
everything from public service to immigration and their election campaign
at the moment, and now we've got Winston Peters all over.
DEI made the announcement on Friday. DEI not new of course,
and the New Zealand first move to change the rules
and the public service could easily have been part of
the government deal. But it isn't. And given it isn't,
it's a private members bill that will have to be drawn.

(42:17):
And even then do they have the numbers? There's your
question that in and of itself, I would have thought
it's an interesting proposition. Act I'm assuming would be behind it.

Speaker 13 (42:25):
But what about the.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Nats is DEI, mainstreamers at niche. How many do they
risk offending if they take a stance a it's got
a touch of the old rock and a hard place
about it. Part of the issue is the fraudulent behavior
of the corporates. Of course, if America's anything to go by,
most of them will dump it as quickly as for
the simple reason they never believed in it in the
first place. I mean, apples seem to be a kind
of a hold out if you follow this story in

(42:46):
America at the moment, despite what the shareholders have been
telling them, it's actually very like BP if you think
about it, and climate zero the other week. Everyone's on
board until they realize it's all theory and the bottom
line might actually count for something. The fact, the basic
print that the best person for the job has been
largely ditched as we genuflect our way around a series
of invented nonsense speaks not to just how way would

(43:08):
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(43:29):
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has allowed the pendulum to swing too far. For all
the old ways we grew tired of, what replaced them
has increasingly been proved to be farcical. DEI only ever
belonged on a whiteboard when someone uttered, oh, come on.
There's no bad ideas, except there were asking Mike, why

(43:52):
is it whenever we talk about funding things in Auckland
to bed tax or some sort of new levee is discussed.
Why is the discussion ever about Auckland Council cutting some
of its social engineering. It's a very good point, that is,
the counter argument to bed taxes is not just Auckland,
it's anywhere specifically in terms of tourism, you know, whether
it be Auckland or the Bay of Plenty or Central
Otigo or more generally in tourism i e. Anywhere in

(44:12):
the country. But the counter to a bed taxes, well,
let's have a look at the local counts. So let's
have a look at your budget. Let's have a look
at what you're spending it on. And I'm wondering if
there aren't a few savings there, because of course you
can't have it both ways. Because when they started increasing
the visa costs and the entry fees from the central
government point of view, tourism was screaming and they were going, well,
you can't possibly do that because no one's going to

(44:33):
come to the country because we're already too expensive. So
you can't say we're too expensive to come to the
country and then go, oh, actually, what am I a
bed tax? While we're at it? So I mean there
is a hotel screaming at the entry fee, but not
at a bed tax. How does that work? Well, the
answer is it doesn't.

Speaker 5 (44:46):
Of course.

Speaker 2 (44:47):
Those PPPs I was talking about before, the four of them,
the Linton Military Camp. This is for the government saying
to all the investors coming to the country this week.
Linton Military Camp, the christ Church Prison, the way tackery
courts in the Northern Expressway. If you're sitting in London
with three trillion and you go, guys, are we interested
in the way tackery court reno. It's not really a thing,

(45:08):
is it anyway? Chris.

Speaker 19 (45:09):
They've got to write a real court as well. That
I can do well.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
I didn't do the write a real coord So two
for one mate anyway, Chris Bishop launderer extraordinaire.

Speaker 1 (45:17):
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Speaker 2 (45:28):
Be Bi Michael. I'm a hotelier. Why not a city
tax as it will put it across more businesses benefiting.
We mean, yes, we'll pay when going to a restaurant,
but it's fairer and the amount can be smaller on
each business. Main thing is it's separated out in an
invoice like the US.

Speaker 13 (45:43):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
I'm not a fan of any more text for the stay.
It seems to me in this country all we ever
do is when we want to do something, so let's
text somebody and find somebody else to pay for it.
Thanks to z B Mike for my Chris Stapleton tickets.
He was just brilliant. Special Thanks to you for digressing
for about twenty seconds after reading out my name before
the other two, so they had no chance of winning
the tickets. Didn't realize the did that so probably probably

(46:06):
rigged the.

Speaker 8 (46:06):
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Speaker 2 (46:11):
Very very good show and glad you enjoyed it. Friday
Saturday night, twenty three minutes away from eight commentary box
Jos and your name to are Pad to pop back
to the government's turbo charging the pass tracks. He new
set of amendments to the Public Works Act will speed
up things in time and which land and all those
sort of things. Anyway, the Infrastructure Minister, christ the bishop
as well, it's very good morning to you. I thought

(46:35):
your city was on WhatsApp oh year, so thank god
for that. What's the biggest what's the biggest issue as
far as you're concerned. Is it the dollars? In other words,
the incentives will move the deals faster, or is it
the courts and the councils.

Speaker 24 (46:48):
It's that process, and so paying a bit more upfront
will massively lower costs in the long term. So we're
offering a fifteen percent incentive payment. If your government comes
along and basically says, look, we're going to build a
road of natural significance here or another piece of infrastructure
listed in the Fast Tracked Act, We're going to give
you a fifteen percent incentive payment and then a five
percent recognition payment as well. That will massively lower the

(47:10):
cost of doing that infrastructure because it means we've got
the certainty that you can plan the construction out, you
can sequence it properly at the moment.

Speaker 5 (47:18):
There are a number of examples around the country.

Speaker 24 (47:20):
Just causes huge delays because of the length of time
it takes to acquire the land and so it's just
just another step we're taking to fast infrastructure projects.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
How are you going to smooth it? If I end
up dealing with the council, how do you smooth out their.

Speaker 5 (47:32):
Reaction the council reaction?

Speaker 2 (47:36):
Yeah, so I don't get one reaction in one part
of the country and something completely different in another part.

Speaker 5 (47:41):
Well, look, I think you can work through that.

Speaker 24 (47:43):
I mean, ultimately, much of the projects we're talking about
here a ye on transport agency projects. So this is
central government coming along and saying, look, we're building a
road of national significance. Here, here's the route. We need
your land and lot. No one likes taking land, we
don't do it with a great degree of passion. But
the reality is if we want to build stuff from
this country and get those roads going that we need
in public transport projects that we need, it will require

(48:06):
taking land.

Speaker 5 (48:06):
That's just the simple reality of it.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
Okay, is the environment caught completely sidelined. They will not
be in use anymore because of this. In these type
of projects, the environment.

Speaker 24 (48:15):
Court will be sidelined when it comes to the critical
infrastructure amendments that we're accelerating.

Speaker 5 (48:21):
So there's two things going on here.

Speaker 24 (48:22):
We're doing a whole review of the Public Works Act,
and there's a whole other long bit of process there
that cross Pen's working his way through. That'll probably take
another couple of eighteen months two years, but we're accelerating
these amendments for the Roads of National Significance and public
infrastructure projects as part of fast track. We want to
get this done in the next six months so that
we can get on and get some spades in the ground,

(48:43):
a SAP on these and very important projects.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Okay, fantastic. As regards to this Thursday and Friday, Are
you honestly telling me that the whole world is coming
to town to learn about the Linton Military camp, the
christ Church Prison, the Way Attackery Court in the Northern Expressway.

Speaker 24 (48:58):
No, they'll be coming to learn about the low long
term pipeline of infrastructure projects that New Zealand has, the
Roads of National Significance and other public transport projects we've got,
and the health infrastructure pipeline, the school property pipeline that
we've got, and indeed the private sector developments that are
happening around the country as well. This is not just
about a short term you know, we're going to get
into the market the next year or two and drop

(49:20):
some projects into the market. By the way, dropping four
PPPs into the market's actually quite a lot, all at
the same time or are in the same period of time.
But this is about attracting interest for the medium to
long term. We want major players to come and set
up here. We want new construction companies, we want new
global investment companies. We want them here in New Zealand
because our great weakness as a country as we need

(49:41):
more competition in the construction market here and we need
more private investment and public investment in this country to
lift our capital intensity to go for growth.

Speaker 5 (49:49):
And that's what Thursday is all about.

Speaker 25 (49:51):
Good.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
I couldn't agree with you more. It's just that these
four projects that have floated to the surface really don't
film me. I mean, the Northern Expressway it needs doing,
of course, but I just don't see a lot of
people and Dubai in London going my god, I cannot
wait to get my hands on the White Tacker.

Speaker 24 (50:04):
Recurt Well, there will be other things that you'll hear
about at the summit on Thursday, Mike, So you're not
going to hear it.

Speaker 2 (50:11):
You're not going to hear how they sexier than the
whitet tacker recort.

Speaker 24 (50:14):
I think you'll find them fairly attractive. But you just
have to wait and see for Thursday. But look, as
I say, this is about a long term pipeline of projects.
You know, we're going to talk about all the things
we want to be doing over the next ten to
twenty years as a country. And those things don't all
happen straight away, right. You don't have people turn up
here and say, oh great, we're going to get on
with this nation shaping project next year because the last

(50:35):
guy spent six years.

Speaker 5 (50:36):
Farting around not consenting anything. So you've got to start somewhere,
and we're getting on with it.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Okay. So speaking of the last guy farting around doing nothing,
hip can speak on Friday that that Vibey head of
cooperation and not just killing everything for the sake of it.
Did you take that on board or you think he's
full of it?

Speaker 5 (50:52):
Well, let's wait and see.

Speaker 24 (50:53):
I mean, the good news is that Labor are sending
representatives to the summit on Thursday Friday, which is good news.

Speaker 5 (50:58):
I think they will play instructive role.

Speaker 24 (51:00):
I think everyone is pretty over the kind of you
know in constant oscillation and you know the two and
and frying. When it comes to infrastructure projects, we do
need a long term pipeline. I'm working on that thirty
year plan in order to try and create that. I
think it's an everyone's interest that we do that. So look,
we're prepared to play our part. Labour's history in this
area is not great, to be honest, but we're prepared

(51:21):
to play our part and get on with it.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Okay, good, Now can we address it long last? I'm
glad to have you on the show Laundry Gate. Now,
what's happened there?

Speaker 5 (51:29):
This was my laundry at the Olympics?

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Was the Olympics?

Speaker 25 (51:33):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (51:33):
Because it was just the receipts we were reading the
other day and no one launder is like you.

Speaker 24 (51:39):
Well, all I can say is it was very hot,
it was very sweaty, and Paris is an extremely expensive
city to be in.

Speaker 2 (51:46):
Okay, so all legit spending didn't bring along friends and family,
and so you justified it and it was all above board.

Speaker 5 (51:53):
I literally I could even break it down for you.

Speaker 24 (51:55):
I literally launded four pairs of underpants and three T shirts.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
That's about it. We've got apparently we've got some Wellington
receipts as well. You're doing laundry in the capitol.

Speaker 5 (52:06):
No, definitely not No, not allowed to do laundry and Wellington.
I live in Wellington. You're not allowed to.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
I was going to say that that's that's that's why
so many eyebrows around here were being no.

Speaker 24 (52:15):
Laundry in Wellington. I literally was representing the government at
the Olympics. I'm going three T shirts and four underpen's done.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
What do you what do you pay for four underpens
in Paris?

Speaker 24 (52:24):
Well you can see from the receipts quite a lot,
particularly around Olympics time.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Good to talk to you appreciate it. Chris Buship, Minister
of Infrastructure and and Laundry, sixteen minutes away from Hosking
from the for your Tesla files, Mike, I took my
tesla from christ Church to Wannaker over the weekend, or Warnacker,
as they insist on saying on TV one News. Now,
the one and only charge station I needed in Geraldine

(52:50):
has been removed, so I arrived in Takapo with only
three percent charge. You must have been well, you must
have been wanting to lounder your underwear by the time
time he got there with three percent a Marama has
four charges, but no more charges until Wanaka juar Na
car until there is You guessed it one. Just too
stressful to do it again. The government promised ten thousand

(53:13):
charges across the country. Silly old me, No, those are
ten Thound'm going to be a long time before the
ten thousand. A Row seven forty five.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
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Speaker 2 (53:26):
Be Morning, Mike, Why should the government, I need the
taxpayer put in ev charges They don't put in petrol
station surely that it's the power companies. I'd always tend.

Speaker 13 (53:34):
To agree with that.

Speaker 2 (53:34):
But it's all part of that overarching I mean, why
would the government or the taxpayer, you and I pay
for somebody else's car. But we did that, and we
didn't seem to eject it at the time as everyone
rolled up for their tesla or theirnist and leaf. But
that was all part of the overall. No one's going
to buy an eb if you can have the infrastructure
in place. By the way, very good piece over the week,
and can I congratulate righty in New Zealand, and I

(53:54):
don't do this very often. The regular is helping keep
New Zealand to fine dining restaurants a float. Just had
Peter Gordon in the studio last week, thoroughly enjoyed catching
up with him. It's just a little article about people
who like fine dining and I used to like fine dining.
I don't need more, but I like people who do.
And there's a place called a Nati in Christytch, which
I've never heard of, but anyway, it's four hundred bucks ahead,

(54:16):
this tremendous amount of money, isn't it for dinner? And
I'm thinking it's somebody who can make a living and
a go of a business charging four hundred dollars ahead
for dinner. Good on them, God bless them. And there
was this lovely quote. I know it's pricey, this woman,
this elderly woman, goes to Logan Brown, which is a
famous restaurant Wellington. Of course I know it's pricing, but
I would sooner go to Logan Brown twelve times a

(54:38):
year than twenty four times to somewhere else. And I think,
what a lovely way. That's a good attitude, very good
attitude to life. Tamotha Paul, Green MP. Not enough coverage
of this. Tamotha was on social media and this should
be my number one rule. If I ever get to
be the leader of the Green Party, well I won't
be the leader of the Green Party, He'll be co leader.
Of course. That will be my first idea. We need
more co leaders anyway, Tamotha Paul, My first idea is

(55:01):
co leader of the Green Party is can you all
get off social media because you make dicks of yourself
on it? Anyway. Tamith For Paul says over the weekend
that the vast majority of people in prison are therefore
nonviolent offenses, that they've had to do these things because
they're poor. The vast majority of people who are in
prison are there for nonviolent offenses, so things that they've

(55:21):
had to do as a response to properties, such as
stealing food and being dishonest. They don't have an address
to get community sentencing or bail, so they have to
be in prison. Most people are in prison because of disabilities,
conditions like fetal alcohol spectrum disorder and undiagnosed autism or ADHD.
They're being punished for being disabled. They're being punished for

(55:42):
being poor. They're being punished for being Maori. They're being
punished for our system that we have in this country.
Quality bit of representation, isn't it if you voted for
her in the particular Wellington Electric, congratulations to you, you're
being well served. Nine minutes away from eight my asking.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Breakfast with Bailey's real estate news talks, they'd be.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Moving away from it. Seeing a bit of a trend
in hospital too many young people are causing too much trouble.
So instead some pubs are going from the R eighteen
to an R twenty. Are the House on Hood and
Hamilton's one such place, and the owner, as Johnlawrenson is,
well this John, very.

Speaker 13 (56:18):
Good morning to you.

Speaker 25 (56:19):
Well Mike.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Pleasure to be here with you and pleasure to have
you on the program. I've got a son who is
twenty five going on twenty six, and he hangs out.
I think there's an hour twenty three and you know
that sort of thing in Auckland, so even older, is
this going to be a thing? Do you think.

Speaker 7 (56:34):
I wouldn't surprise me. We've sort of seen other bars
deb belot it in the past. We actually have with
a couple of venues as well, and in this far,
I've previously been twenty plus, dropped it back to eighteen
for a while just to give the eighteen year olds
a few more options than Hamilton, but unfortunately they really
blur it for themselves, and going back to twenty seems

(56:54):
like the only really logical approach.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Is there a noticeable difference? Obviously there is in an
eighteen year old versus a twenty year old.

Speaker 7 (57:03):
I think when it comes to the way that they drink. Absolutely.
I've sort of used the example if you were a
thirty year old drinking with a twenty eight year old,
you probably wouldn't really notice the difference because you know,
there's still a fair bit of experience there. But when
someone's eighteen, that's really just the very first time sort
of out in that environment. They're just learning how much
alcohol they can drink, what's acceptable behavior, what other people

(57:26):
in the bar will put up with, what the security
will put up with. By the time your twenty, you've
been doing it for two or three years, and I
mean you're also talking about people at twenty one, twenty
two to twenty three. You know, the five years into
their social life, they really don't want to be around
people that are just discovering alcohol for the first time.

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Are you getting pushed back on this or is everyone
happy with it?

Speaker 7 (57:46):
Surprisingly incredibly little pushback. We knew when we made the
post that there might be a bit of arguing between
the eighteen and twenty year olds, but what ended up
happening was just an overwhelming outflow of horse and gratitude
from the people that were over twenty plus that they
could go back to a bar that they enjoy. The

(58:06):
eighteen year old have said very little. I wonder if
they probably accept down that there's a lot of truth
of what's being said.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
Give us a quick snapshop of HOSPO and you're part
of the world. We're going well or not.

Speaker 7 (58:18):
It's pretty tough out there. I mean, I think especially
Auckland Hamilton, we took a lot more heat during COVID
with those extra lockdowns when we were all in the
red setting for a lot longer than the rest of
the country was. And you know, I mean, the economy
is definitely not bouncing back as we would hope it would.
The intrust rates coming down aren't making the differences yet.

(58:39):
It's tough out there, Like but you know, this should
be a better year. Let's hope of these mortgages, ree, folks,
we get a bit more of extra money in the economy.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Good stuff. I so good to talk to you, John
appreciated John Lawrenson, who's the house of hood owner in
that particular part of the world. So it's watching a
little bit of the beautiful lawn Christ yesterday and good
crowd for the Crusader's, very good crowd that thead. And
I saw Harvily get a ball in the head. So
guys behind the twenty two goes to kick it out
and Harbili's going at him and he kicks the ball

(59:09):
into his head and I think, does that hurt? I mean,
obviously hurt for a bit, But anyway, then the medic
comes on and then Hbli goes off and I'm thinking,
what are they calling him for ball in the head?
And is it because the Crusaders was so far ahead
at that particular point. You a good player, don't need
to risk him anything. Just let's pull him off for
the week. I mean, if it was two points and

(59:31):
it was a tight game, would you keep him on?
Or are we in the agent stage these days where
if you get a ball in the head You're off
instantly anyway, more shortly.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
Setting me a gender and talking the big issues the
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Others can't use Tog's head brung.

Speaker 26 (59:52):
Room, nor no one comes, not the promise eat a
park with a third time in wilm.

Speaker 25 (01:00:02):
Yeah, who both by with the final say in this game.

Speaker 20 (01:00:05):
But it is the Fiji and drawer who knock off
the unbeaten Chiefs twenty eight twenty four. It's the drawer now.

Speaker 25 (01:00:12):
Mawana pacifica knock over cheery teams in succession.

Speaker 19 (01:00:17):
Mawana Pacific up forty.

Speaker 25 (01:00:20):
The Hurricane thirty.

Speaker 27 (01:00:21):
Was a when and what has been a funny old
afternoon foody and christ Church and far too good for
a red side.

Speaker 19 (01:00:31):
It's a chants there are Auckland undefeated in eight matches.

Speaker 16 (01:00:36):
That is a new club record now for the Black
Knights six points clear at the top.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
And that's my way into the clasper.

Speaker 16 (01:00:46):
What's the champions trophy for any but win it after
twelve years and it's another lazy seat.

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Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Jason and andrews Hell, Good morning Fellers, Good morning Mike.
The cricket Jason always had to my mind, and I'm
not a cricket fan generally, but it had that whole everyone,
all the cricket nerds around here, they're all the No
one was backing them. It was going to be if
we had won this morning, it would have been, oh
my god, have a national holiday. Just had that vibe
about it. Is that fair or not?

Speaker 15 (01:01:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:01:25):
I think India a favorite going in and as soon
as we lost Matt Henry that was a huge dent
in our chances. India haven't had to travel of course
during this whole tournament. This is well documented and look
without Matt Henry and with their spinners just squeezing us,
couldn't build partnerships. Rutchan, Ravendra came, Williamson of course in

(01:01:45):
the semi were so dominant, couldn't get runs last night.
It never felt like we were going to win the game,
you know. Having said that, fifty other cricket's a funny thing.
I think India deserved to win it again though we
falled just short in the final.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Do you see any of it Andrew bits of it?

Speaker 13 (01:02:02):
Mike?

Speaker 25 (01:02:02):
I thought there was an encouraging start by Revenger and co.
And he's had an outstanding tournament obviously, what an exciting
talent to watch for many years to come hopefully. But
once those Indian spinners came on, you didn't think that
they hadn't scored enough and and India were going to
romp home. I think it was reasonably tight in the end,
but when Indians are comfortable.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
I was watching it, but I got here at three
and I turned it on and I just had that
it had that this isn't going our way kind of
bib about it.

Speaker 25 (01:02:31):
And look, I think international officials are probably going to
be happier that India's won at the New Zealand, if
you get my drift, They probably would rather have seen
an India Australia or India England final. But I think
the New Zealand team did very well to get there.
They'll they'll do quite well out of it. Financially. The
players make as well, which is a bonus. But once
again the New Zealand team falls over in a final.

Speaker 2 (01:02:53):
Do you either of you know so? I was talking
about Hevely. So I'm watching the end of the Crusaders
game yesterday, A beautiful, beautiful all day in christ Jitch,
don't want to move to christ Church? Save shouldn't we
go back.

Speaker 25 (01:03:03):
To christ be fantasically we should?

Speaker 2 (01:03:05):
Oh, for goodness sake, Now, when you get a ball
on the hitty you off automatically and then the crowd
at the squash that was huge.

Speaker 19 (01:03:11):
Well, of course it was.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
I mean the Isaac Theater. I know that stages have
been you know, courts have been on stages before, but
you for anyone who hasn't been to the Isaac Theater,
it's one of the most beautiful theaters of not the
most beautiful theater in the country. And you wack a
stage on a court on the stage, I mean you're
in for a win there, aren't you. I mean, it's
just fantastic.

Speaker 25 (01:03:30):
And of course, Paul, I think I saw Skippy the
Bush Kangaroo in nineteen seventy eight.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Was that the last show?

Speaker 25 (01:03:37):
Urine?

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
When you played Skippy you.

Speaker 25 (01:03:43):
Wouldn't be allowed to drag a live kangaroo onto?

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
Was there a lot of competition to play Skippy?

Speaker 25 (01:03:51):
No, it was a live kangaroo.

Speaker 13 (01:03:55):
Wow, straight in.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
From straight in from a high I have a little
Andrew wanted to be skippy.

Speaker 25 (01:04:03):
I have a feeling it might have been just a
large wallaby. They dragged him from the North Beach.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Sous probably Yeah, it was probably from what's it called,
not meadow Bank, willow Bank. They would have got it
from Willow Bank. Pull it in a couple of.

Speaker 25 (01:04:17):
About what happened to David Heavilli. Are you it's just
what you're trying.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Yeah, No, So Glenn's trying to argue with me that
if you kick a ball at the moment you get
touched in the head in any way, shape or form,
apparently you're off these days. Is that true?

Speaker 18 (01:04:28):
No?

Speaker 25 (01:04:29):
Not no, not necessarily.

Speaker 13 (01:04:30):
I think it was.

Speaker 25 (01:04:31):
It was kicked with quite a lot of force, obviously
not deliberately. No, But I think he did go off
for a head chick.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
He did.

Speaker 25 (01:04:37):
He did will Jordan with someone to come back on?

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Yeah, I just wonder how what what what the rules
around that are? And if you feel he didn't look
like he felt well it was got had that brain
rattle kind of I can't focus straight type thing.

Speaker 25 (01:04:48):
If you'd shaken it off and was continuing to run
around anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
But what a great win they I mean, what what
a quality winn on a quality day, didn't it exactly?

Speaker 25 (01:04:59):
They tacked from everywhere that Will Jordan was on fire,
Sevre Reese as well. The Ford Pack did very, very
well and I thought that that was a bit of
a bit of a statement performance mic from the Crusader exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
And what I'm pleased about, Jason, is Moana Pacifica at
last have got to win. Some of the Australian sides
are winning. So what you've got as a competition, which
is I think what we all want, isn't it.

Speaker 13 (01:05:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:05:21):
Luck the weekend, I think the Crusaders game was probably
the outlier of it Allana Pacifica beating my Hurricanes. I'm
glad you brought that up on Saturday, the Blues going
down to the Brumbies on Friday night, the Chiefs previously
unbeaten going to Lovetoka and losing to the drawer and that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:39):
Was miserable though, wasn't it. I Mean you go all
the way there and you're six feet under in water,
and I mean it's like, you know.

Speaker 10 (01:05:44):
Yeah, in the first half, yes, but in the second
half when dried up. Look, you've got to give it
to the Fiji.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
And Drewer does it dry up in one half? Jason?

Speaker 13 (01:05:53):
Really?

Speaker 10 (01:05:54):
I don't you think it was a wonderful spectacle though, Mike.
Did you see the second half, the crowd, the way
that they embraced the game up there?

Speaker 25 (01:06:02):
I reckon, you've got to take I know this all.

Speaker 10 (01:06:04):
You know, the spot obviously not work meteorogically, but you've
got to take super Round up to Fiji. Get them
all up there in the rain.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
Okay, Yeah, I think that's a dumb idea. And on that,
I'll take a brief break. Jason Fin Andrew Sevil thirteen
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Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Herego, Jason, Mike was in Latoka at the game. Chief
sponsor was a fabulous game. Drew a second half full credits,
So there you go, good on your good on your
chiefs bottle men's men with money behind you. Have you
seen Drive to Survive SEV.

Speaker 25 (01:06:55):
I've watched the first couple of maybe two or three.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
I'm enjoying episodes thoroughly, enjoying it thoroughly.

Speaker 25 (01:07:02):
Yeah. I started watching it, I thought, oh, there's probably
a little bit too much race visional race coverage, but
then the balance seemed to They seem to strike the
balance right as the first couple of episodes went on.
So no, I thought, I thought last season started to
drag a little bit, but this one's much better. Well,
there's obviously more controversy and this one isn't that. And

(01:07:24):
there's a lot more winners, a lot more different winners
of the races, Yes, there are.

Speaker 2 (01:07:27):
I follow a guy called Kim Illman who's worth following.
He's a IF one photographer and he does vlogs on
flights and stuff like that. Anyway, he watched the whole
lot and put up a video on it. There's a
he Reckons. The best episode is the one where Carlos
signs signs for Williams, and that story in the way
they set it up as very well told. But I
only saw one episode. I haven't seen it at all.

Speaker 25 (01:07:45):
Yeah, I've seen that one. They do go right inside
Mercedes who who want to have a crack at Max
signing them? And then then they do go right inside.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
Doesn't tell you how close they got to Max.

Speaker 25 (01:07:58):
I saw in a roundabout in a roundabout way.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
Yeah, okay, because the opening episode, which is the only
one I've seen that they glossed over Lewis going to
Ferrari because they obviously had no footage, and they focused
very heavily on Christian and his predilection for texting women
back at the office, which and you saw I can't
ever work out so Jerry halliwell, when she turns up
at the first race last season holding his hand, Yes,

(01:08:23):
to look at her face now, she looks pretty much
like she wants to kill him, doesn't she. Yeah, and
she's there under some sort of duress.

Speaker 25 (01:08:33):
And also looking at her face now, it looks slightly
different to when she was in the Spice girls, if
you get my drest.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Yes, it does. Was the football any good, Jason? That
won all? I mean two draws in a row? What's
that about?

Speaker 10 (01:08:46):
H Yeah, I mean it was I thought it was
an okay game. It wasn't great Aukland FC. There are
eight unbeats and now they'll store in the league. I
think no issue with that? Can I just mention Sam
Ruth I mentioned his name to you a couple of
weeks ago and told you to remember the name. This
is the young fifteen year old who yesterday track and
Field in Track and Field Champs dead heated with Sam Tanner.

Speaker 2 (01:09:09):
Don't you hate it when that happened?

Speaker 25 (01:09:10):
And a final?

Speaker 2 (01:09:11):
I hate a dead heat.

Speaker 10 (01:09:15):
Go again, make them run it again, run off.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
So he's he's your man?

Speaker 25 (01:09:19):
Is he?

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
Is that a name? Is that a name for the future?

Speaker 25 (01:09:21):
Well?

Speaker 10 (01:09:21):
Well, I mean when you're running running fifteen hundred meters
as quickly as he is fifteen?

Speaker 2 (01:09:26):
But what time did he do it? And I used
to do it? In the high three forties, three forty seven,
three forty eight something like that.

Speaker 10 (01:09:32):
We three are they were? They both in a dead heat?
Obviously ran it in three forty four point one.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
Oh they're a bit quicker than I was, but not much,
a little bit, not much.

Speaker 25 (01:09:42):
You did it in three forty seven, three forty eight.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
Could have been four forty seven eight numbers I remember?

Speaker 25 (01:09:50):
Did you catch a taxi halfway round?

Speaker 13 (01:09:52):
Hello?

Speaker 2 (01:09:55):
Actually, I'll tell you what about Paul Cole. I'm glad
you raised it because Shabagi, who he beat, I used
to beat him and this is the rise and rise
of Paul Cole. Of course, he seems to beat Shabagi
on a regular basis now. So something's happened psychologically, hasn't it?

Speaker 25 (01:10:09):
Although he was Cole was world number one for a while,
isn't And then he.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Was, but there was that period where he got to
number one, where it used to be the Egyptians used
to get to him, and now something switched and he
seems to be able to overcome them.

Speaker 25 (01:10:22):
You know, the way he continues to play is this extraordinary.
Levels must be extreme.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
You must look at his thighs, Andrew, and just just
have so much. Have you seen his thighs?

Speaker 13 (01:10:33):
Oh, not really, have a look.

Speaker 25 (01:10:35):
Have a look seen him the way he moves around
that court and the way he keeps going and going
and going. Yeah, he's an incredible athlete.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
You'd be a thigh man, Jason. You must have noticed
his thighs are incredible thighs.

Speaker 25 (01:10:47):
I've said his thighs.

Speaker 10 (01:10:48):
Yeah, you know, he's got thighs reminiscent of a bush kangaroo.
That that man yeah, and the way he flanges himself around.
Can't wait to see him in the Olympics in twenty
twenty eight, when what gets.

Speaker 13 (01:11:00):
Let's go there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
Tell you what we're going to be talking about this
time next week? What are we going to talk about
this time next week?

Speaker 5 (01:11:05):
Andrew?

Speaker 25 (01:11:05):
If one William Lawson cannot wait.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
I cannot wait. If you want an article, look up
in the Morning Herald in Sydney this morning. It's an
article on doing and how he made their pact. That
the Argentinians are throwing in half a million dollars a
race and Cola Pinto's got all the dough behind him,
and poor old Jack Doan's going in with no money
and they're thinking, you know, if he doesn't win, he's
out gone. That's that's the f one for you.

Speaker 25 (01:11:29):
Unfortunately, that's that's that's it's pressure, isn't it. I still
find it staggering, Mike, and and a lot of people
will be thinking this this week. Here's this young key
week racing for red ball. It still just doesn't compute well,
it does, but you know, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
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and Jason Pine. Back next week here on The Mike
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was next level amazing. Everything I hear is next level amazing,

(01:13:10):
and I put it. I was just talking to the boss.
Actually it was embarrassing the boss when he got in
a fight. But I'll come back to that in a moment.
So I see Chris Stapleton as an officionado. He's one
of those. He's not as big a deal as Luke
colmebs Luke Holmes as global, you know, seriously global, stadium global.
Chris Stapleton is still indoor arenas of ten to fifteen thousand,

(01:13:31):
but he's an officionado. He's just as sheer genius in
terms of his musicianship, and the band is always brilliant. Anyway.
People raved about it, and I saw several reports and
accounts and people sent me videos and stuff like that. Anyway,
the unfortunate thing is the boss of the boss of
the company rape Jason ended up in a fight, and
he was of course in the VIP seats, and when
he gets the VIAP seats, he gets a little you know. Anyway,

(01:13:53):
there was a woman in a seat and he was
having none of it, and he had to call the
I can't remember the order, but the you know, the
sort of one of the peace helping out in the
BP section tried to get her out. He wasn't having that,
and then he had to call security, and security came
along and then finally the police had to come and
they were they were dragging there. Just just a woman
who wanted a nice night out, a crowd crash. It

(01:14:14):
was very very similar. It got it got I'm I'm surprised,
and get covered on the Herald and Sunday.

Speaker 8 (01:14:19):
But anyway, well he obviously, I mean he's got he's
got the power, kept it on.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
The Delo, kept it on the But Jason had a fight.
But apart from these, he said, once it's settled down
and the blood stopped flowing, the concert was a very
good concert. So he had a very he had a
very enjoyable time, which is good to hear news in
a moment. Then we'll get the old weather update from
Australia Steve Prices.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
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Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
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Speaker 13 (01:15:02):
You tempted me.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
Now I've only done one episode, so you've tempted me
ten episodes, which is more, I think than the previous season.
Mike went to Chris Stapleton. Many seem to be there
to drink and talk. Most annoying when he did the
two guitar solos, Many got up and went to the
toilet and everyone else seemed to be talking. Are people
really interested in the music or just it's a funny
thing You should say that. I went to Luke Carms
a couple of weeks ago and it's the same thing.

(01:15:23):
I've just never understood why. I mean, obviously you know
my view, it's about singing along and people do that,
but people seem to talk and yak. It's almost like
the concerts secondary to getting together to have a drink
with somebody and have a good yarn. It's just it's.

Speaker 8 (01:15:37):
Why my app idea of you know, you go to
concerts four people and then you use AI to put
them in the pictures for your social media so you
don't even have to go to the concert anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Is that how it works? Is that taking off? You've
gotta well, I'm gonna deal along because if you're interested. Okay,
who's taking orders? Twenty two minutes away from.

Speaker 21 (01:15:54):
Nine International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace of
Mind for New Zealand Business parted with.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Us in Australia Morning Mate.

Speaker 6 (01:16:02):
He's funny on Audiences story this morning, saying that Dave Hughes,
Austraining comedian who's made of mind through three women out
of a show at the Adelaide Fringe on the weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
And that's that's becoming a thing with comedians, isn't it.
They're not pulling up with it anymore and going get
out if you don't want to nap.

Speaker 6 (01:16:20):
Off my effing show leave and so they did good
on him.

Speaker 2 (01:16:24):
I tried really hard to get interested in this weather
of yours over the weekend. I was watching sky on
Saturday morning and they kept crossing to broad Beach and
it looked like a mild subdenly and a drizzle. But mean,
Liz Moore looked like a goer there for a while.
Harvey Bay seems to be a problem. What's the summation
of what actually happened.

Speaker 6 (01:16:43):
Well, a tropical cyclone turned into basically an East Coast
who went from two down to one and dumped a
huge amount of rain on Brisbane, the Gold Coast, and
Liz Morris spoke to Lismore mayor Steve Kraig on television
on Friday. They were worried that it was going to
break their levy bank because Liz Moore, as you know

(01:17:04):
back in twenty twenty two, was basically inundated. It didn't happen,
But you know, we can all sit back and say, oh, well,
you know, it wasn't as bad as we thought it
was going to be. It was a mass destruction, but
there was a lot of flooding, a lot of places
out without electricity for up to a week, and it
was very damaging. Insurance company says it's catastrophe, but it

(01:17:26):
was not a cyclone. It didn't rip through. And probably
Anthony Albaneze he could have got away with not changing
his plans and refusing to call an election, so that
if the election wasn't hovering like the cyclone, we'd probably
be just saying, oh well, it's good that it wasn't
such a massive piece of damage that was caused. But
with the election there and the change of mind, it

(01:17:46):
made it very different. It was a lot of pressure
on a lot of people.

Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
And i'll tell you what's speaking of the election really interesting.
So the news poll this morning that doesn't seem to
have changed, But that stuff in Western Australia where the
Libs got nowhere near what they thought they might. That's
got to be one worrying for the coalition, but be
emboldening the Labor Party, doesn't it.

Speaker 15 (01:18:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:18:06):
I guess so, although might WA you've got to remember
as a rue outlier.

Speaker 13 (01:18:10):
I mean it loved what Mark.

Speaker 6 (01:18:12):
McGowan, the former premier at Labor Premier did there during COVID.
The new bloke Roger Cook's just seemingly taken over and
hasn't missed defeat. You're right, but the Coalition or the Liberals,
they're in coalition with the Nationals. The Liberals themselves, so
take them out of the coalition. They were down to
two seats. They were basically wiped out at the last
state election. It looks like now they might have secured

(01:18:35):
seven of the fifty nine seats in the lower House.
They thought they might have been able to get back
to thirteen, but they're only going to look like getting seven.
So the West Australian it's a different world, it's a
different country. The West Australian's pretty happy with Roger Cook.
The mining royalties keep pouring in the doors, so they've
got plenty of money to spend on infrastructure. They don't

(01:18:56):
have the crime issues the places like Melbourne and Sydney have.
They don't the youth crime issues. And West Australia is
pretty much a happy place. It's a it's just a
very different it's weird.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
It's a weird place. I reckon everyone should go to
Western Australia just wants to experience what it's like because
you talk about it on a piece of paper. Sunshine,
a lot of money, successful economy, jobs for everyone. You think, well,
why doesn't the whole world move there? You've really only
got to go there once to understand why you don't
because it's not normal.

Speaker 6 (01:19:28):
No, it's not. And it's the most isolated capital city
in the world for a st Card's closer to Singapore
than Sydney. And once you move outside of Perth itself,
unless you go south to Margaret River and the Wine Country,
you go north. And I know this because my sister
owns a business in Geraldon, which is four hours north
of Perth. There's nothing there. I mean it's basically desert

(01:19:49):
and wheat and iron all the Newspoll.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
By the way, speaking of which, whatever the numbers, I
think it's fifty five percent. Say Dutton's not ready to
be these numbers they're not enough, are they. There's going
to be no change of government.

Speaker 6 (01:20:03):
It would appear we're back in a minority labor government territory.
You're absolutely correct. Newspot's got on a primary vote coalition
on thirty nine, Labor on thirty two, labored like that
fire and they got this small boost I'm suspecting from
that interest rate cut from the Reserve Bank. The Greens
are on twelve others are on seventeen. That includes the

(01:20:24):
Teals in one nation, so two party preferred it's forty
nine fifty one to forty nine with the Coalition in front.
So unless something big happens between now and May, we're
definitely headed for I know I said last week, and
I told you on Wednesday that I thought it'd be election.
Thought on Sunday I didn't know Alfred was coming. I'm

(01:20:45):
sorry I didn't have that warning. And so we're back
in minority labor government doing deals for the Greens and Teals,
which means that I'm moving to New Zealand. So that's
where that's at.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
Well, you'll be more than welcome. By the way. Your
regional airport's the same as ours. You can just rock
up and jump on a plane with anything now and
looks at you.

Speaker 6 (01:21:04):
And I've worried about this for a long, long, long
long time. We don't have security at regional airports like
we should have. We're talking of course, here of Avalon Airport.
It's not even regional. It's about forty five minutes from
where I'm sitting over near toward Geelong, and it's a
major airport. It's got international status. They could use it
as an international airport if they want. And I guess

(01:21:25):
what the security the police, either state or federal police
security at Avalon Airport is zero. The nearest police presence
is ten kilometers away in a metropolitan police station. This
seventeen year old kid who's in custody allegedly got on
the plane. We all saw the shearer who tackled him
around the throat. He had a shotgun which was loaded,

(01:21:48):
and said he had a bomb in his car, and
he had a belt full of knives. It was terrifying
for the people on the plane. And the federal government
has now said, oh well, we've got to have a
review of security of all regional airports all around the country.
They're going to be very shocked when they find out
what there is not in here of those airports.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
Exactly. Go well, mate, we'll catch up next Week's appreciate
very much. Steeps off on Wednesday. Murray Old's doing the business.
It is sixteen minutes away from nine Muskeg Speaking which
I note that James Shaw's leaving the country, isn't it
is that sort of ironic. It's sort of ironic. It's
not ironic. I suppose he spent a lot of time
overseas working before he ever became a politician. So we
came back and he works at Is it Morrison? I

(01:22:26):
think it's Morris in the company. They're an infrastructure investment
type firm. Anyway, he went and left the Greens and
went back to that, and now they're posting him to
Singapore and he's very much looking forward to going to Singapore.
Mike went to Staple on Friday night, paid a lot
for good seats, ridiculous amount of drunk people during the performance.
Brilliant performance ruined when someone threw up on the floor
directly in front of us. Took thirty minutes for the

(01:22:46):
staff to attempt to clean it up.

Speaker 11 (01:22:47):
Yuck.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
It's a weird business. New Zealanders Alcohol and Public Events,
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Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
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Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
Very good news just in from Fontira. Thank the Good
Lord for the farmers. They keep on keeping on. So
the dividend payment earnings gardens from forty to sixty cents
per share. They've up that this morning to fifty five
through seventy five cents per share. That's big, big money.
Big money, alongside the midpoint of ten bucks, which is
also big big money. It all comes out officially on

(01:23:22):
the twentieth, which is Thursday week, sixty to eighty percent
of full year earnings, with up to fifty percent of
the full year dividend to be paid at the interim.
So I mean everything, It's all. It's just like their
the butter and the whole milk and the skim milk,
and the Mozzarella's rolling up the door like they've never
seen before. Horizon Pole out this morning. It's the weirdest pole.
It's the most ridiculous pole. So there are more negative

(01:23:47):
people than positive people, and feelings towards the government in
this particular pole. Respondents were showing a randomized list of
words and asked to choose the words they feel. So
thirty nine percent of us concerned about how the coalition
government is performing. So that's thirty nine. Remember the number
thirty eight percent were disappointed, thirty four percent of frustrated,

(01:24:08):
and twenty four percent are angry. Now, if you add
those numbers together, thirty nine, thirty eight, thirty four and
twenty four, you come up with one hundred and thirty
five percent. So it's one hundred and thirty five.

Speaker 19 (01:24:19):
You can be frustrated and angry, this.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
Is my point, My point being, so can we have
more than one feeling? Presumably that's what they're asking, But
then twenty two percent of us are hopeful, ten percent
of us so pleased, five percent or excited, four percent
of proud, and four percent are and expired inspired. So
you've now got one.

Speaker 19 (01:24:37):
Hundred eight they have academy all the expired people.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
So one hundred and eighty percent. So one hundred and
thirty percent. But how can you have more than one
hundred percent of people who are disappointed, frustrated, if not angry,
but also at the same time pleased, excited and proud.

Speaker 8 (01:24:53):
Can you be frustrated and angry, yes, but please to
be hopeful that things are going to get better.

Speaker 2 (01:24:59):
No, no, you can't, because there's there's it's it does
it literally makes no sense. Survey could indicate the task
in New Zealand first has before it. When I say
New Zealand first, I don't New Zealand first the party,
but New Zealand has before it as in like it's
a big task and we're all frustrated or angry or
pleased or excited or disappointed.

Speaker 19 (01:25:20):
Are people just more in touch with their feelings than.

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
You, or confused or me? Maybe they're confused.

Speaker 8 (01:25:27):
Because I feel like I can only feel one thing
at a time, But I reckon I've met heaps of
people who can feel more than one thing at a time.

Speaker 25 (01:25:34):
It is.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
Nine minutes away from nine the make Casking Breakfast with
the Range Rover Villa News Togs Dead being yesterday. It's
interesting you think the Begon said's bad with petrol stations
and coal and you know, trying to close people down
on that Bank Australia, not the Bank of Australia, but
Bank Australia refuses now loans on combustion and hybrid cars,

(01:25:59):
so they'll lend you my on an EV, but they
won't lend your money on a regular car with a
nice engine. A lot of pushback in Australia for that
four minutes, so I know it's not six minutes away
from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:26:09):
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Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
Now, what we thought we'd do now would be really
fun is make fun of me because we enjoy this
particular segment of the show. So let's make fun of
Mike segment of the show. So this is HIA. So
I was talking before about David Harvely got a football
kicked in his head and you know, so anyway, before
the season starts in rugby, they do an HIA test
and so that gives you a sort of a benchmark
or baseline as to where you're at, so that if

(01:26:36):
you do get a ball kicked into your head, they
then give you a test and work out whether you've
lost the plot completely. So this is this is my
HIA test.

Speaker 19 (01:26:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
So this is based on exactly what they do preseason,
So this is a real test.

Speaker 19 (01:26:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
So me heavily body correct.

Speaker 19 (01:26:52):
So your first task is I'm going to read out
ten words. Yes, and you've got it. Don't write them down.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
No, I'm just picturing them in my mind.

Speaker 19 (01:26:59):
Go okay, and you've got to repeat them back to
me in any worder. Okay, you're ready.

Speaker 8 (01:27:03):
Jacket, arrow, pepper, cotton, movie, baby, monkey, perfume, sunset iron.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
Oh I see, I'd struggle that jacket, arrow, cotton, sunset,
baby iron?

Speaker 6 (01:27:17):
Was arrow in there?

Speaker 2 (01:27:18):
Did I say? That'ller? It's all I can remember? How
many do I get?

Speaker 19 (01:27:22):
Now?

Speaker 13 (01:27:22):
Now?

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
Do it again, Jacket, Arrow, sunset, baby Cotton. I keep
want to say arrow twice. That's must I've gone backwards.

Speaker 19 (01:27:32):
Yeah, yeah, you're actually getting worse.

Speaker 2 (01:27:34):
Wasn't that what you're supposed to get?

Speaker 19 (01:27:36):
Right now?

Speaker 8 (01:27:36):
So the next next stage does memory, which I would
have thought that first one was kind of light. So
normally that asked who scored last in the game and
what half we were in?

Speaker 2 (01:27:46):
You know what team you played that we're in the
second half.

Speaker 8 (01:27:49):
Yeah, So your question is who's the last person you
spoke to on today's show Steve Price right? And who
was Tuesday's feature interview after eight o'clock last week Tuesday?

Speaker 2 (01:28:00):
So I had Peter Gordon on Thursday, No, that was Thursday. No,
I might on Thursday Tuesday. I can't remember.

Speaker 19 (01:28:06):
No, who was It was mccryan. So now numbers mccryan.

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
Who's mccryan the geopop I'm joking.

Speaker 8 (01:28:15):
You don't get any extra points for jokes. Now, numbers,
You've got to repeat these back to.

Speaker 19 (01:28:20):
Me, yes and reverse order.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
Oh no, are you ready?

Speaker 13 (01:28:23):
Yes?

Speaker 19 (01:28:24):
Fifty five, thirty nine, seventy.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
Two, seventy two, thirty nine, fifty five.

Speaker 19 (01:28:29):
Forty seven, ninety eight four nineteen seventy.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
Three, seventy three, nineteen four. I can't remember the other two.

Speaker 8 (01:28:36):
Right, twenty three, eight fifty five, forty four, seventy thirty eight.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
I said, save them again, And so.

Speaker 19 (01:28:47):
There'd be seven groups of those numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:28:49):
By the way, So what you're saying is I can
get a ball in the head and I wouldn't do
any worse, would I? You gay, you're fine?

Speaker 13 (01:28:57):
Carry on?

Speaker 19 (01:28:58):
No, I'd say you wouldn't even make it out of that,
wouldn't say.

Speaker 2 (01:29:01):
But that's my baseline, off my baselines, like really troubled
at okay, start now?

Speaker 19 (01:29:05):
Now, give me those ten words again from.

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
The beginning, Cotton Arrow, Jersey sunset. That's that's plenty.

Speaker 19 (01:29:15):
Hey, get him off, Get him off?

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
When does the show end? Who's mcran? What happens next?
Back Tomorrow Morning, Happy

Speaker 1 (01:29:26):
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