Full Show Podcast: 13 November 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The newsmakers and the personalities the big names talk to,
like the Costing Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, your local
experts across residential, commercial and rural news talks head been.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Today, the PM on the apology in the Trump call
and APEC where to now how quickly for abuse survivor redress?
They're all over fusing and energy in the Capitol. Mark
and Jenny do politics Wednesday after late Sea Prince Richard Arnold.
They pony up as well Hostle in Louis. Here we
go seven past six to tell you what of the
COP organizers and evangelical believers had some wherewithal they would

(00:34):
be an azure bazaar at the moment, learning the lesson
of Carmela Harris and the Democratic Party who were equally
convinced they had the Year of the people as well.
I say it every year, but the number gives it away,
doesn't it COP twenty nine And where exactly are we?
And how many cracks do you want not to solve
the problem before? As sure as night followed day, we
are not going to solve it at all. I mean,
it's become a circus, a gargantuine piss taking circus. In

(00:57):
which ludicrously large numbers of people, most the hangers on
gather and pontificate with an air of exceeding arrogance in
the vain hope that by the end of it, after
the last sweat producing, nerve racking hours of panic, is
the clock texts they come up with some sort of
text that represents some sort of outcome that they can
all kid themselves, will make a jot of difference. The
Democrats believe that millions more women would vote for them

(01:18):
as well. They believe reproductive rights would swing votes the
same way the thousands gathered in an oil country think
we're going to reverse our carbon output and save the planet.
At no point is this to suggest the climate issue
isn't real, real to the extent that weird stuff is
happening with the weather. But what we have learned is
you need a pandemic basically to clean the place up.
When the world was locked down, things environmentally got way better.

(01:40):
Now we're not going to do that again. We didn't
like it. It's not the answer, Neither are any of
the other ideas we keep banging on about. Rightly or wrongly.
The world has decided and proves it every day that
the price is simply too high. We will not be
inconvenience to the degree the boffins feel we need to.
The debate has lost. We've left the room. We will
not be voting for extreme action to save the world.

(02:02):
You can copy yourself silly for the rest of your lives.
But the voters in in the planet, rightly or wrongly,
didn't win. Would we like to? Well, of course will
we know Kamela didn't get why she lost. The attendees
in azure Bajan will be equally as perplexed, But that's
mainly because neither operate in the real world.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
News of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
My drama in the Church of England as the archbishop quits,
it is very.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Clear that I must take personal and institutional responsibility for
the long and re traumatizing period between twenty thirteen and
twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
It was a reporting to the actions of John Smyth's
abuse of boys and young men back in the seventies
and eighties that built the pressure to today's announcement that
calls her out for more rotten.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
It's evil and it goes right back I think to
our relationship. I'm afraid to say with sex, if we
didn't have such oppressive, ungodly teaching about sex, we wouldn't
be forcing so much into the darkness.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
One of the victims.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
He introduced statistic beatings when I was an older teenager
and through my university days up until the point that
I mean an attempt on my life to stop the abuse.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Stateside from our dumb games file, Chuck Schumann is accused
of not inviting Senator rolect Dave McCormick for the ritual
Chamber orientation. Republicans not happy.

Speaker 6 (03:22):
He's a big baby, he's a control freak. But it's
not his time anymore.

Speaker 7 (03:27):
It's time for Chuck Schumer to step aside because there's
new sheriffs in town.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
The judge in the Trump Hushmudey case, that's one with
Stormy in New York, he's delayed proceedings.

Speaker 8 (03:36):
This case was so horrific and so illegal and so
over the top in terms of the evidence that was
allowed by this judge. I honestly feel that it needs
to be reversed. There was no crime, there was no basis.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
And on the Trump job front, looks like Christine Nome,
currently Governor of South Dakota, might Land Homeland Security, Mike H.
Rubio as your Secretary of State back in the mother country,
Old William High, who once around the Tories, but nervous
about it.

Speaker 9 (04:01):
Not necessarily experienced in all aspects of world affairs, very
hardline views on China.

Speaker 10 (04:09):
It would be a different way of working.

Speaker 9 (04:10):
But I'm very worried as many people are about what
could happen administration.

Speaker 2 (04:15):
Finally, in nineteen thirty inver Gordon Town Council, this is
in Scotland, obviously Invar Godden brought a bust of politician
John Gordon, as Gordon was believed to be the founder
of inver Gordon five year rights. Was supposed to be
put on display, never was and was found eventually years
later in nineteen ninety eight being used as a doorstop
in an industrial pack. Now, eventually the council found out

(04:37):
it was worth a little bit more than five quid.
That triggered a multi year process to decide what to
do with it. Unfortunately the procrastination caught up for them.
Who would have thought procrastination in a council anyway, Private
biersteps and he wants to pay four and a half million.
They've got a Court approval to send a national treasure overseas,
and that, as they say, is that news the world
in ninety seconds. Germany Schultz has finally got around a

(04:58):
pulling the trigger Feb twenty three, little bit earlier than
they thought. But as government's fall into part three party
government sd SPD and the FDP and the Greens spinner
shambles sacked the Finance minister last week. We've just been waiting, waiting,
waiting as to when they're going to have a vote.
Foreb twenty three. It is twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
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Speaker 2 (05:21):
Talksb unemployment in the UK four point three percent? Is
that bad? Not good? It's up from four so four
point three. Wage growth still rising though it's beating. Inflation
went up four point eight percent. This is for the
the quarter of July through September. So that's read on
the UK FO your fourteen past six, please them from
j and my Wealth Andrew calla her good morning, very

(05:43):
good morning.

Speaker 10 (05:44):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Please talk about party time. Look at it, look at
us in the credit cards, mine work, Hey, all those
flat whites.

Speaker 10 (05:50):
I'm not too sure about party time.

Speaker 11 (05:51):
Mine.

Speaker 12 (05:52):
But look, look, we're edging our way towards that the
crucial Christmas period for retailers, aren't we. So we sort
of us start asking the question, you know, will will
the retails feel the love?

Speaker 10 (06:02):
Will we start reaching for the plastic?

Speaker 12 (06:04):
Will those green shoots blossom and bloom? Yeah, we've got
electronic card transaction data release yesterday by Secessim.

Speaker 10 (06:11):
For October, so we're not far from Christmas. So yeah,
is it good news or is it more of the same?

Speaker 12 (06:17):
Mike, I think this kind of depends on how optimistic
a person you are. You know, if you want to
see good here, you'll see good. The data is clearly
less bad. And I said, there's a bit of a
theme at the moment across a lot of data. It's
not getting any worse, you know, it's all stabilizing. I
look at the monthly numbers, which can be quite noisy,

(06:37):
but we have had three.

Speaker 10 (06:38):
Months of month on month gains.

Speaker 12 (06:41):
Yes, the gains are very small, but they are nonetheless gains.

Speaker 10 (06:44):
There's no real seismic shift here. Mike.

Speaker 12 (06:48):
I think a read on this is that demand is
still weak. Year on your card spending is up one
point seven percent. That's before you factor in inflation and
population growth, which would pretty much remove any growth total
retail spending. So this is not all card spending, just
the retail stuff. That's up zero point six percent month
on month, but if I look at the year on

(07:09):
year number, it's.

Speaker 10 (07:10):
Down one point one percent. Now you have.

Speaker 12 (07:13):
Got support for spending coming from lower interest rates. They
are starting to feed through that will continue for the
next sort of six to twelve months. There was a
small tax cut at the end of July as well,
so that's helping. If I sift through the detail, there's
a I guess an encouraging sign there for hospitality, which
desperately needs it.

Speaker 10 (07:32):
Yeah, spending there did lift two percent month a month.
That's good.

Speaker 12 (07:35):
Vehicle spending, Mike, it's still in the dumps. That's down
zero point nine percent month a month. We're definitely not
rushing out and buying new cars yet. Over All, the
big takeaway the story is very very very gradually improving,
but the improvement is really sort of marginal. And speaking
to as I said, continued low levels demand, the challenges
are pretty well signaled.

Speaker 10 (07:55):
We've talked about them a lot. Employment or rather unemployment.

Speaker 12 (07:58):
It is lifting population growth, is slowing and will continue
I think to slow. We get migration numbers today, so
we get an updated on that. And as we head
into the summer tourism season, Mike that tourism impulse will
be important.

Speaker 10 (08:12):
So yeah, it depends on depends on your view.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
I guess similar reading concrete, what are we making of concrete?

Speaker 10 (08:17):
I concrete?

Speaker 12 (08:18):
Who doesn't love a bit of ready mixed concrete? We
got numbers yesterday and ready mixed concrete data for the
September quarter as an indicative construction activity, no surprises. I
guess it shows lower levels of construction activity.

Speaker 10 (08:29):
But they're quite a bit lower.

Speaker 12 (08:31):
September quarter actual volume down five and a half percent compared.

Speaker 10 (08:34):
To the September quarter last year.

Speaker 12 (08:36):
If we look at the year ending, the September quarter
is down nine point three percent compared to the twelve
months to the end of September twenty twenty three, and.

Speaker 10 (08:46):
That annual number is that the weakest annual.

Speaker 12 (08:49):
Numbers since twenty fifteen, so it is quite and it's
quite a bit. Seasonally adjusted, September quarter was zero point
four percent ahead of the previous cours, so a very
small game. So again, the trend looks like it's stabilized.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Okay, then we get to the famous trichometer, light and
heavy both down. That's not good. It isn't so what
have we got this one.

Speaker 12 (09:11):
We've had electronic cards, we've had concrete. Now we're getting
cars and trucks. We're going everywhere cars and trucks count up.
I love these because there's a real, sort of real
feel about.

Speaker 10 (09:21):
Them, isn't there.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
So.

Speaker 12 (09:22):
Light and Heavy Traffic Index good correlation to demand production GDP.
Light Traffic Index gives you an insight into demand economy
roughly six month lead on momentum coming into the economy.
It was up one point three percent in October, but
it's down zero four zero point four percent year on year.
Heavy Traffic Index good real time read on production, which

(09:44):
always sort of triggers freight movements, plus three percent month
a month, but also down zero point one percent year
and a year. In both cases, the trend is flat,
which of course means similar to card spending, that if
you look at it in per capita terms, it's actually
going down. Look again, Mike, as with all these numbers,
at the moment, they're not really getting a lot better,
but they're not getting any worse. So I guess if

(10:06):
you're a positive person, you'd.

Speaker 10 (10:07):
Say that's good.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
I reckon one of the numbers.

Speaker 12 (10:10):
Well, the Trump bump has kind of lost a little
bit of steam, so we've seen quite a few red
numbers around the joint. The dal Jones is down two
hundred and seventy two points, that's points six percent, still
over forty four thousand, though forty four twenty one. The
S and P five hundred, it's down twenty points, about
a third of a percent, and has dipped under that

(10:31):
six thousand mark five nine eighty one, and the Nasdaq
is down forty nine points nineteen thousand, two hundred and
forty nine. It's lost about a quarter of percent overnight.
The footsay one hundred lost one point two nine percent,
so quite a bit. I see Europe, the European and
it was down two percent as well, so Europe a
bit in the dumps though the fotsy one hundred close
eight h two oh.

Speaker 10 (10:50):
The Nicket was.

Speaker 12 (10:51):
Down point four percent thirty nine thousand, three hundred and
seventy six. Shanghai Composite lost one point three nine percent
three four to two one. The Aussie's yesterday, I lost
eleven points on the ASX two hundred eight two five five,
but we gained sixty three points on the z X
fifty that is a half a percent gain twelve four
hundred and seventy nine.

Speaker 10 (11:12):
The US dollar, though, has continued.

Speaker 12 (11:14):
To strengthen, which means the New Zealand dollar is weaker
point five nine one nine against the US, but point
nine oh seven zero against the ossie point five five
eight six euro, point four six four six against the pound,
ninety one point five nine. Japanese end gold has just
fell to two thousand and six hundred dollars for announce

(11:35):
and Brent crude seventy two dollars and eleven cents.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
So good, My mate Andrew callaher Joemiwealth dot co dot
m Z task getting looking for any life in China.
These singles though, which has been going on the Big Festival,
they spent more than expected, which was good in what
has otherwise been a tempered retail environment. So take from
that what you will. Six twenty one your news talk
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Speaker 1 (12:00):
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Speaker 2 (12:08):
On the economy fits Yesterday or a division of came
out with their view on what Trump's going to do
to the New Zealand economy is by way of terrorists.
They reckon it's going to clip our growth. They see
next year growth at two percent. I'm a little more
bullish than that, but we'll see how we go. They're
going to clip it to one point eight, so it's
worth point two of a percent to our growth. Household
consumption they think is going to add one point one

(12:29):
percentage points from a projected zero point two this year.
So it's anemic this year, gets better next year. Financial
conditions remain relatively tight. Their words, not mine. They think
the cash rate they see fifty points before the end
of the year. I think we all agree on that,
and they see one full point next year over a

(12:49):
series of cuts. Obviously, so the cash rate ends up
at three point twenty five. Household debt to GDP ratio
here is ninety one point three percent. Is that bad?
Yes it is. The average around the world is seventy percent.
So we're an indebted nation with a mnemic growth and
things might be getting a little bit better next year
if what Trump does falls into plan. That makes you

(13:12):
feel good.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Sex twenty five trending now with ms Warehouse your home
for Christmas shopping.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
New trailer for Mission Impossible. I love Mission Impossible. This
is the eighth or could be part two of the
seventh Dead Reckoning. It's been underwhelming at the box office,
so they pushed forward the release date, changed the name
to Mission Impossible, the Final Reckoning.

Speaker 13 (13:34):
Everything you are, everything you've done, has come to this.

Speaker 10 (13:42):
That's the pattern, isn't it.

Speaker 14 (13:44):
You refuse to sacrifice the ones you've hold close.

Speaker 10 (13:49):
You've always been on the right side. Brothers, I have
no whogreats, nysician you.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
I need you to trust me.

Speaker 10 (14:06):
One last time.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
If that's not you ever heard, and you've never seen
any of the movies, you wouldn't be gripped by that,
would you. But I've loved them. I've loved every one
of them. Anyway, Tom's back. Obviously, our Hannah Waddingham is
that she's in everything I think she is. If there's
a breakout star, she's been it, hasn't it, And she's
got parts everywhere. Everyone's fallen in love with her. The
budget's a little bit through the roof. I don't think
it's Hannah's folve. It's gone to six hundred and seventy million.

(14:33):
That's quite a lot for a movie. In fact, that
would make it the fourth most expensive movie ever, and
that's with Tom doing his own stunts too, So it's
not like they haven't tried to save the money. Previous
film only made nine hundred and seventy million, so it's
profitable if you spend six to seventy make nine to
seventy three hundred million dollars. But who's counting anyway. It's
due out in cinemas in May of next year into

(14:54):
Fusion Energy. Do you know what fusion energy is? If
they asked you what fusion energy you want in an
NCEEA exam, would you burst into tears? And would it
make the herald? Anyway. We'll talk more about this in
just a couple of moments, but the news is next
here at News Talks dby the Breakfast Show You can
trust the Mic Hosking Breakfast with a.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Vita Retirement, Communities, Life Your Way News.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Togs Head be talking a fine line here, Mike, isn't me?
Or is this hikoy becoming a joke? They're not really
marching their carring, vanning and buying and then get out
and annoying the general public all over a bill that
sends zero chances of coming into law. The kids are
missing schools for this, people to skipping work for this.
The whole thing seems stupid, Yet it does since I
try and avoid talking about it on the program. Richard Arnold,
shortly twenty three minutes away from seven, got a small

(15:40):
peek into the future. Now we're a step closer to
creating fusion energy that's the power source that fuels the sun,
and billions are being pumped into projects all over the
world to recreate this. Open Star Technologies has hit a milestone.
Their machines turned on and created first plasma and now
the CEO and founder rat Thu Matata is with us
on this rud To morning to you waiting, Mike, where
are we in the grand scheme of things? I mean,

(16:02):
you know, for people who that's most of us, don't
know what we're talking about here. When you start, where
you're at, how far down the track are we?

Speaker 15 (16:10):
So we've picked up this weird concept called levitated dipole.
No one's building these things and so that means that
where we start is pretty far behind compared to a
lot of other projects that have had those billions of
dollars that you talk about spend on them. But by
getting first plasma, now we're getting this concept back in
the race, and we think it can make a difference
much faster than the other approaches.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
What's your big picture, what's your journey? What are you
looking to achieve?

Speaker 15 (16:37):
Well, we think this is a way of creating clean,
abundant energy without CO two or long lived bad waste
like this is a way of making sure that everybody's
energy bills kind of stay under control. And really, once
humanity cracks this, this will probably be the last type
of energy we ever need.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Right, So where are you and the journey with everybody else?
Once somebody cracks it, and they will presumably does everyone
become redundant or you just get in other words, you
will become like a power company.

Speaker 15 (17:11):
Yeah, it's funny. People always look at us and go, wow,
this is really high tech, But actually my dream is
just a beaver letterhead on their power bill. It's probably
the most basic product in the world these days. Once
once we crack it, I think, you know, people's imaginations
are really the limit. You know, what would you do
with unlimited energy? You could have a flying car. You

(17:33):
can travel to space, do whatever you want.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Really, yeah, that's true. Well I wouldn't mind the lights
being on in winter for now, So let's keep it
real because that's where we are at in this country.
When you say when we crack it, will it be cracked?

Speaker 15 (17:48):
I think it will. But I'll be perfectly honest. The
reason I'm building the machine that Open Star is doing
is because personally, I think this is probably the best
crack the other devices. They have their challenges, all of
these things are worth pursuing, but I wanted to work

(18:11):
on a machine that could actually deliver economic power and
a timescale that mattered.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
How come you've come down this track and others haven't.
Are you a genius or are you just trying your luck?

Speaker 14 (18:25):
Look?

Speaker 15 (18:25):
I am I trying my luck. Look broadly, the fusion
community thought that the kind of machine we're building was
basically impossible. But if you have a particular insight, you
realize that this technology that makes it possible, and that
technology was actually mostly developed here in New Zealand and

(18:46):
Wellington in particular. I was just lucky enough to do
my PhD in a lab that was working on this
kind of stuff, and it was a coincidence of history
that you get to see the opportunities like building this
kind of levitated dipole machine that we're working on, And
so I wouldn't I wouldn't say I'm a genius. I
was in the right place of the right time.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
What's the cash burn?

Speaker 15 (19:08):
The cash burn? So we've raised twenty million in z
D to day of that, we've probably spent seventeen to
get to where we are. Since raising our seed rounds,
it's taken us about two years to turn on this machine,
a little bit slower than I would have liked, but
at the same time, way faster than if we're building

(19:29):
something else.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Right, I'm reading in the NBR this morning, there's a
question mark over where your next machine is going to be.
Is it going to be offshore?

Speaker 15 (19:36):
Look, there are some pretty great reasons to build it offshore.
There are like just legacy infrastructure the northern hemisphere of
the States Europe, they've been spending decades and there's a
whole bunch of infrastructure that we could use that's, you know,
not unique to what we do, and so that could
save us time and money. But at the same time,

(19:58):
building it with in new Zealand with Kiwi's with the
Kiwi attitude has also saved us a bucket load of
time and money, and so there's now this tension that
we need to figure out where this next machine is
going to be built, and my hope is that we
can figure out how to build it here in New Zealand,
because I think that's the difference between having a fusion
company Open Star versus having a fusion industry, just like

(20:21):
what we're seen with space. Once you get one company
that actually has traction, you can actually start building an
industry around that and actually have New Zealand's prosperity based
on technology and engineering, which we're pretty good at and
we should keep moving forward with.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Couldn't agree more? Go well, well, appreciate it very much.
Right to Matita, how interesting is that? I bet you
didn't even know it was existing in Wellington? He's sort
of like a Peter Beck esque character eighteen minutes away
from Sevensky, Speaking of which, sort of the first thing
they've done at COP twenty nine is they've done a
carbon trading deal of carbon credits deal, which no one
seems overly happy with. Apparently they've been stuck with It's

(20:57):
the same carbon credits type deal that we do in
this so you know, you have an auction and if
you're a polluter, you go throw some money at somebody
and buy some carbon credits and it gets you off
being a polluter. So all ab done is done that
as far as they can work out with the third world.
So you can go out into the world and go
pick a country and go, look, well, throw some money
at you and you can go reduce your carbon emissions
and you can feel good about yourself, and apparently that's

(21:19):
going to save the planet. Kicking off Cop twenty nine
with a backdoor deal sets a poor precedent for transparency
and proper governments. So already the critics are out. So
ours doesn't work. This won't work. They're just coming up
with a whole bunch of stuff that doesn't work.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
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Good News on Key We Savior if you're in it
for the third quarter, it increase by seven billion, up
to one hundred and seventeen and a half billion dollars
now eight billion dollar increase for the first half of
the year it's around four percent return ish, but if
you're on the balanced sixteen percent thereabouts conservative eleven percent,
am z's the biggest player in the market, but it's
all heading in the right direction.

Speaker 16 (22:00):
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Peace of mind for New Zealand business Richard im morning.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
To you, Good morning, Mike Meade, your jobs. Marco's in,
isn't he well?

Speaker 17 (22:12):
Among a rush of names of Trump appointees and likely
Trump aids are also signs of some headwinds for Trump,
even as he seems to be moving quickly. Yeah, Senator
Marco Rubio has been proposed as Secrety of State. Little
Marco was Trump used to call him after you know
Rubio joked about the size of Trump's private parts, then
quickly jumped on board the Trump train. The process is
that the Senate votes to confirm cabinet picks, but Trump

(22:33):
wants to do away with all that by calling on
the Senate to stay home, folks at the start of
next year, so only Trump then would make the pick
by using what they call recess appointments, which do not
require the Senate's approval, So telling the Senate shutdown, Trump
will run the show unilaterally. Senator Rick Scott is a
trump'ster favored by Elon Musk, who has become Trump's recent
Marri Lago dinner partner or whatever. Scott's backs the Senate

(22:57):
holiday plan. But here's one of the headwinds. Some of
the senators are balking it, being made useless clones in
the political system. They're turning against Rick Scott for Senate leaders.
So we'll see. Rubio is a China hawk and seen
by many in Washington is what passes these days for
old school Republican. On the Ukraine War, Rubio has said
he is not on Russia's side, but he voted against
military aid for Ukraine, and now he's signing on with Trump,

(23:20):
who has said on that subject, I will have that.

Speaker 9 (23:24):
War settled in one day, twenty four hours.

Speaker 18 (23:26):
I will get it settled before I even become president
if I win. When I'm president elect, and what I'll
do is I'll speak to one, I'll speak to the other,
I'll get them together.

Speaker 17 (23:36):
Yeah, it doesn't much look like that right now, does it.
With the war expanding, with North Korean troops brought onto
the battlefront now, and with European reports that Putin may
have added four more countries to his invasion hit list
of Stoney, Olatvia, Lithuandrian Moldova. Those first three the Baltic
States and Native members. So those reports in any way serious.
Trump Junior just reposted a video mocking Ukraine's President Zelenski,

(23:58):
saying quote, you're thirty days away from lou your allowance.
Interesting words about a war of national survival in which
some eighty thousand Ukrainians have died trying to protect their homeland. Anyway,
here's another headwind. An American president cannot unilaterally withdraw from
NATO that requires a two thirds vote from both the
Senate and the House. House Member Elista Farnik has been
chosen for you and Ambassador. She became a vocal Mega

(24:20):
supporter during a campaign disputing the Trump election loss in
twenty twenty, as she also proposed blocking funding for the
UN Agency for Palestinian refugee So much for the Arab
Americans in Michigan who voted Trump on the immigration front.
Christy Knowam, the South Dakota governor, as to be nominated
for Homeland Security. She is the one who lost out
as potentially being the Trump running mate after she revealed

(24:41):
in her memoir that she shot her dog in a
gravel pit when it misbehaved. She said that story was
proof she was ready to take action to do whatever
needs to be done, no matter quote how difficult, messy,
or ugly it may be. Tom Holman is chosen as
borders are. Well, there's no such cabinet post borders are
what the heck is that?

Speaker 19 (24:59):
He says, I will run the biggest deportation operations country's
ever seen.

Speaker 20 (25:03):
I'm second tired hearing about the family separation, and I'll
still being ssued over that, So come give me.

Speaker 10 (25:07):
I don't give a shit.

Speaker 17 (25:09):
He recently spoke at a meeting of something called the
Rod of Iron Festival, run by the son of former
count leader son Myng Mun Sean Moon, who calls himself
King Bullet Headed. Where's a crown made out of ammunition?
Lovely look? Moon Junior recently claimed some Jews were behind
the terrorist attacks of September the eleventh. The same Jewish
Front group he alleges, who were involved in World.

Speaker 11 (25:32):
War Two helped engineer the takedown of Hitler. Things that
I see it just makes me shake my head after
what they've.

Speaker 8 (25:40):
Programmed is that people going to learn a lot about
World War Two and Hitler and the Nazis.

Speaker 11 (25:44):
They don't learn about Hitler was actually fighting the same
people that we're trying to take down today.

Speaker 17 (25:51):
Not clear what role RFK Junior will have. He says
he wants to sack some six hundred scientists at the
National Institutes of Health. If there is a Senate confirmation
hearing for rf well, that'd.

Speaker 10 (26:00):
Be a doozy.

Speaker 17 (26:01):
He has a very very very colorful history. Environment EPA
goes to Lee Zelden, who says he plans to gut
climate rules. Elon Musk jumped in on that Trump phone
call the other day with Ukraine's lanscap. We've never seen
anything like that from a private citizen. Musk also has
speculated about abolishing the US Central Bank. The Federal reserved
your own power. The FED chair says the President has

(26:22):
no power to fire him. You know, the last time
Trump got in his National Security advisor, now to be
Mike Waltz lasted for two weeks. That was Mike Flinn,
while former Veterans Affairs Secretary Robert Wilk was forced out
amid claims he tried to cover up a sex scandal.
He's now been reappointed by President elect Trump.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
It's almost like it's twenty sixteen again. You could see
Richard Arnold stateside nine to seven.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Mike costkil breakfast with Alveda Retirement Communities news.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
Dogs head be breaking the environment the best bit of
legal news this morning. A Dutch court has dismissed this
climate ruling against Shells. So this is the latest twist.
It was a president setter in everyone went what this was.
Back in twenty one, the Hague District Court ruled that
Shell must reduce the greenhouse gas gas emissions by forty
five percent from twenty nineteen levels by twenty thirty. They

(27:11):
took that to appeal rightly. So while Shell is required
to reduce its carbon emissions, it could not determine the
extent of those cuts. The case therefore has been entirely dismissed.
They also said the company was responsible for all the
missions in the original case across the value chain, including
those from the products they sell. That's called scope three emissions.
But essentially everything that you ever did and whatever it

(27:34):
got turned into was on you, which of course was ridiculous.
It was the first time in history that a company
was found to have been legally obliged to align its
policies with the Paris Agreement as well. So anyway, they
went to the appeals court and the appeals court said
toss it out. The thinking now is it may go
to the Supreme Court. Five away from seven.

Speaker 14 (27:55):
Well, the ins and the outs.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
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Speaker 2 (28:02):
Now let's have a look at the fun world of insurance.
Who doesn't love insurance? Home care, contents, life premiums all
gone up? Of course, it's in a way really it
makes you WinCE all furious. So we've gotten you insight
this morning. It's a Treasury survey. Now the survey part
will come back to Apartment owners seem to have been
hit the hardest. The average annual MUB multi unit building

(28:22):
insurance premium in Wellington alone has increased fifty eight percent
between twenty nineteen to twenty twenty three, four years. Fifty
eight percent. The average cost eight thousand, two hundred dollars,
which is three times the average premium per a standalone home.
In Auckland, your premiums double to eighteen hundred dollars. So

(28:42):
for context, the average cost of any kind of home
insurance between twenty nineteen and twenty twenty three went up
thirty percent, So thirty percent versus fifty eight percent in Wellington,
one hundred percent in Auckland. That's how mad it is
being in a multi unit building, Treasury admits. And this
is the survey bit that's tricky. There's a bit of leeway.
It's an opt in survey. And the problem with opt
in surveys, of course is the only people who opt

(29:04):
in and the people who are vpable. So if you've
got an insurance, if you're in your multi unit building
and you've got your insurance premium, you went, I'm going
to take part in that, sir, ry, don't you worry.
And that's the problem. Although they suggest the high insurance
premiums could hinder center's city centers and even the government's
policies for more housing density. Wellington's unique given the earthquake situation,
of course, but nevertheless, you know, big builder is a

(29:26):
big building. You can't run from it, can you. I've
got news on Operation Nickel, and you're going, what's Operation Nickel? Well,
I've got good news around that. It's got to do
with the gangs and the police are all over that.
So we'll talk to the police about that very shortly.
Yesterday's phone call with Donald Trump, we've got the sweep
steak on it. I said it started at eight fourteen.
We're supposed to start at seven forty, Sam said eighteen.

(29:48):
Glenn said eight twenty. Glenn's also questioning whether it ever
happened at all, which is not a bad question to
ask in these and these these troubled and interesting times. Anyway,
Christoph luckson on that in slightly more important matters as
well politics Wednesday after rate Mark Mitchell and Jenny Anderson meantime,
The News is Next to News Talk said.

Speaker 1 (30:07):
They used bold opinions, the mic asking breakfast with the
range rover, the la designed to intrigue, can use talks.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Dead be seven past seven. So as the laws around
gang's change in a bit over a week, that's your
gang patches, signs and signia and public places, all of
that sort of stuff, it becomes illegal. The police have
disruption units ready to go as part of the new
nationwide scheme Operation Nickel in Operation Nickel National Control of
Paul Basham's with us, Paul, Morning to you, Good morning,
how big is the resource.

Speaker 20 (30:38):
Well, it's for the whole police resource with the Sisational
Game Units in the King Disruption Units, which is SUCER
one hundred police officers. But it's much bigger than that
because we will bring effect from the twenty first of November,
which will be a whole police approach to Operation Nickel.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
So you've got to go Bobby on the beat, just
doing his thing, and then all of a sudden he
sees a gang go right, we're into Operation Nicola. Is
that how it works?

Speaker 20 (31:03):
Definitely. We've been spending the last six months, you know,
intensively preparing for the legislation dropping on the twenty first
the whole of the stuff that had to happen in
the background to enable the effect, training and ICT and
all that sort of stuff. But more importantly, we've been
out engaging with various parties and interested groups to sort
of really project that certainty of enforcement from the twenty
first of November. So we've spent quite a bit of

(31:26):
time so educating and encouraging and projecting that from the
twenty first of November of people and breach of the
law as it relates to this legislation, and were living
to some.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Forth quite in the morning. Was it four hundred or
four thousand meetings?

Speaker 20 (31:42):
No, not four thousand, that would be ambitious, but we
had a list of around four hundred and twenty four
hundred and fifty meetings to try and do up and
down the country, you know, and furtherance of that educating
courage of their engagement piece, we've done pretty much most
of that, and you know the so that was a
number of things encourage you to get but also to

(32:03):
be projecting that kind of organizational posture which is in
lign with the government's priorities and the commissioners' priorities, which is,
if you break the law from the twenty fifths of
then we will move to enforcement and it will be
pretty black and white in that posture.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
How proactive versus reactive are you're going to be, Well,
the whole.

Speaker 20 (32:25):
Point of establishing the game disruption units across the twelfth
districts is to still step into that proactive posture. So
you know, it's inevitable that you know, we will be
responding to reports of gangs breaking the law, but you know,
in addition to that, those units will be proactive getting intelligence,
looking to work with other police units and taking opportunities

(32:45):
to sort of fill their mandate which is in liign
with the purpose of the act, which is reduce the
ability of gangs to operate and to cause fear and
indimidation and disruption by the public. So as units really
clear in terms of what the purposes and from the
Fest of November, they'll be inter it I think too.
You know, you'll see them, you know, sharpening their tradecraft

(33:08):
and their skills relative to the provisions of this legislation.
And so we just see it as an awesome tool
to allow us to continue the work that we do.
Pretty much happened down the country every day anyway in
the way that we plus.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
The gangs good stuff. Well, I think most of New
Zealand's probably on your side on this one. Paul Basham,
who's the Police Assistant Commissioner and Operation Deical National CORO Controller.
Ten minutes past seven after the apology, Prime minters to
come after seven thirty after the apology comes to redress.
Of course, you can already sense the feelings around the
art working so that the abuse and state care survivors
are waiting for the government's next steps and what they

(33:41):
look like. Criminal Barrister former Lake allis detainee. Rosemary Thompson
is well, there's Rosemary. Very good morning to you.

Speaker 21 (33:48):
It's Kira Mike.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
How do you feel about yesterday?

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Well?

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Can I first of all acknowledge all the survivors of
the institutional abuse in New Zealand and which includes those
are still with us and those and alonger with us.
And also I'd like to acknowledge all those who have
fought over the years for justice, and some have been
fighting for nearly half a century. And these include survivors
but also importantly supporters, including journalists. Now, in terms of

(34:13):
the apology yesterday, there's no criticism of the apology. It's
very falsome as really, as you say, what happens next?
And the response by the survivors to the apology really
falls into two camps. Where those who are cynthical, who
do not believe there's going to be meaningful redress based
on the fact there's been no action in the past,
and those are prepared to give the government the benefit

(34:35):
of the doubt and want to see what happens in
the new year.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
What do you do though, I mean, I have absolutely
no doubt in my mind that this government is good
to its word. You may not like what they come
up with, but they're good to their words. Surely most
of us would agree with that, wouldn't it.

Speaker 21 (34:49):
Oh, absolutely would agree with that. But both camps would
agree that redress is urgent because the survivors getting older
and in general they're not in good health. As I said,
obviously it's appropriate to give the government benefit of the doubt,
and they've got that opportunity, and that asked that they'd
be given to the new year to work on redress.

(35:11):
And ultimately it remains to be seen, obviously, but it's
important because it was, as you say, it was given
in good faith in Parliament by the Prime Minister, supported
by Sydney cabinet ministers, and supported by the leader of
the Opposition. And as I said, give them the benefit
of the doubt and look forward to positive resolution.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Well, I will get the Prome Minister to tell you
when that's coming. After seven thirty this morning, Rosemary appreciated
at Rosemary Thompson, whose criminal barrister, former lake elis detaining.
I think you'd be churlish, and some people are to
be frank that yesterday was in any way, shape or
form anything other than hand on heart, the right and
proper thing to do and delivered with dignity twelve minutes
past seven, around small amount of reportage. I don't want

(35:52):
to spend too much time on it based on the
fact it's very much like Cop twenty nine. Wayne wants
to is the mayor of Auckland. He wants a quote
unquote massive show cup of council controlled organization CEOs. This
is your famed Auckland Transport, your tar Taki Auckland unlimited,
your par Nuku Auckland. All the government agencies or council
agencies that cause Auckland is so much difficulty and problem

(36:14):
and expense. He wants to get rid of the lot
of them. He's got a big bowl planned to get
rid of the lot of them. The reason I'm going
to spend no more time on it, sadly is it's
never going to happen. Wish it would. Isn't going to
happen though. Thirteen Fast The.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
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Speaker 2 (36:33):
At be Mordie Mike, we vote for change in Auckland
with Brown as the mayor. The other councilors need to
get on the same page. Unfortunately, that's not how it
works in a fright. A lot of people think mayors
had pals. They don't. Sixteen past seven fields like the
country got a little bit on at the moment of
perfect day for the Cup yesterday, follow the Trotting Cup
and christ your fabulous Pearl Jam. We're here last weekend
in Auckland three nights as well as of tonight for

(36:53):
Cold played Eden Park. We've got new massive university research
that says for every dollar spent on live warmans is
three dollars twenty is returned and benefits to the community.
So that's encouraging that Eden part boss Nick Sautner is
back with us. Nick, very good morning to you.

Speaker 18 (37:08):
Good morning Mike, and thanks for your time.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Not at all have you checked the stage that he
doesn't fall through it like you did in Melbourne.

Speaker 18 (37:15):
I can assure you that the diligence has been undertaken
by Live Nation. We're looking forward to three massive shows,
the biggest in our history and the biggest rock pand
of all time.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
I was going to say, where does it sit. Is
this the biggest thing you will have done in terms
of concert.

Speaker 18 (37:31):
Yes, certainly, three sold out shows over four days. It's
probably our biggest event in the stadium's history. When you
look tonight's shows, one hundred and seventy third in Coldplay's
Music of the Sweetness Sears tour.

Speaker 11 (37:44):
Billboard ever say, I.

Speaker 18 (37:45):
Call them the biggest rock band of all time and
there we're just so delighted and excited. This too has
been going since March twenty twenty two, and looking at
the rehearsals last night, it'll be something that people will
never forget.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
What's the what's just sold out at Eton Park mean
for a concert light there's how many you're talking per night,
So we're.

Speaker 18 (38:05):
Looking to see over fifty thousand fans.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Three nights.

Speaker 18 (38:10):
It'll be plus plus that. On the weekend, we're anticipating
to have greater than that attendance with' gate opening from
five pm, so we're just encouraging people to arrive early
be part of the atmosphere. Awkand's a great city and
Eden Park is a fantastic const venue.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
Weather and track Friday is a dog. That's the problem, Mike,
It's the Garden of Eden.

Speaker 18 (38:30):
I've already been talking to our manager. We think it'll
go through. The weather's looking great today. Friday and Saturday
Fridays there's a better rat about. But we're confident, battle
clear early and we'll be able to put on a
show that the world is watching.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
That dollar and three dollars twenty back. Do you believe that.

Speaker 18 (38:48):
Without a doubt. And we've also got to look at
the economic benefit but also the mental health, the escapism
the bars and restaurants around this area where the it
be in Kingsland, Morningside, Dominion Road or mount and all
the hotels are full. The residents are lighting up the
streets with lighting to just embrace the event. Three thousand

(39:08):
jobs created today at the venue alone, all our bus drivers,
train drivers, et cetera getting an extra shift. So this
is massive for Auckland and New Zealand. It is a
great city and we've got to embrace major events. The
pipeline of events that have come through Eden Park over
the last three years, with the Women's World Cups, now Coldplay,

(39:28):
Metallica sold out next year. Luke colmbs, we've got a
wonderful come of events, but we want to do more
for the city.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Good stuff, go well with it, enjoy it. Nick Suortaner,
who is the Eden Park CEO, don't text me that
Colbert Play are the biggest band of the world. I
know they're not. I don't think anyone would.

Speaker 22 (39:42):
Describe Yeah, are they in fact a rock band at all?

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Well, it's a good question. Would they'd be top teen though,
wouldn't they in the ability?

Speaker 22 (39:49):
I mean they're a band.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Yeah, they're certainly about I love cold playing.

Speaker 22 (39:51):
And they're very good. Do they play rock music?

Speaker 2 (39:54):
How many? Yeah, that's debatable. How many bands could sell
three nights of fifty per night? One hundred and fifty.
The last big Adele was big. She did three times
forty or forty five.

Speaker 22 (40:06):
We've we've done the research. This is, in fact the
biggest tour it.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Is so nothing has ever come to the country that's
bigger than this. While there you go, they're the biggest
for now, they're the biggest.

Speaker 11 (40:16):
Men.

Speaker 22 (40:16):
I'm just questioning the rock part, that's more.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Anyway, what are you gonna do with your tickets on
Friday of it's raining? Hey?

Speaker 22 (40:23):
When you're not mate, mate, it's about it's about the
mental health.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
It's the mental health. To night's fine, Saturday's fine, but
you've got tickets for Friday when it's raining.

Speaker 22 (40:31):
Hey, next says it's not going to be raining. It's
gonna be They've They've sorted it out.

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but first, I've got the latest news from around the world,
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(41:49):
are laying off thousands of workers. Toyota have said this
week that the California regulations around EV's and engines and
emissions are unworkable. Trump's arrived, of course, a tariffs are
an issue there and his EV. In Britain, they are
now discounting EV's by a thirty three percent off because
of rules that make manufacturers sell a certain number of
evs and if you don't sell that many, you'll then

(42:10):
find so sales here, of course, are dire. Sales of
cars is past month are up. Last month was the
second best month of the year for sales, apart from evs,
which sold next to none. So here's the question, what
are they going to do? See? Under normal market circumstances,
a product lives and dies on demand, doesn't it, think
about it? Demand can waiver prices are adjusted accordingly, models

(42:32):
are updated, marketing is refreshed to fizz up demand or awareness.
But ultimately, if something doesn't have a customer, it dies.
EV's don't appear to have a customer base. They did
to a degree when government subsidize them, but that I
suspect simply gave early adopters a cheaper ride. It's not
like you can't get a good deal now, because you can.
But even with a cheap price, they still can't sell them.
People in bulk simply don't want them. So what's made

(42:56):
this unique is, of course, the manufacturers have been fought
into producing something I suspect they knew wouldn't work. They
would have been way way quicker to bail on a
failed product if they hadn't had governments all over the
world lecturing them and hectoring them and changing the laws
and forcing them into a business that looks like it's
going nowhere fast. So the question is just what needs
to be done to either one increase sales or two

(43:19):
kill off the whole idea and come back another day
with something different. See, you can't force people into something
they don't want, and the lack of sales shows this.
Is the truth. Are they going to ban regular cars,
No they are not. Are they going to subsidize them forever?
No they are not. Are jobs going to be lost?
Bottom line is going to bleed red, factories closed because
of all of this? Yes, So who blinks first? I

(43:40):
think that this is where we've got to. I think
who blinks first? The idea logues or the realists? Pasking
my plate interview with Nick. This is the kind of
stuff we need happening to kickstarter economy from the mud.
It's stuck in. Create something people will rally around. That's
a very good point. Mike idro from Auckland to Queenstown
over the last two days. That's impressive because that's a
big drive. Tourism's back campus everywhere, not a motel room

(44:03):
between christ Church and Queenstone. And I'd take a you
don't mean literally, but it's a very good sign because
I read an article about Japanese tourism that I'll get
to you later if I get time through the roof.
They're going into autumn now, the call the months that
normally dies down, no sign of it dying down. I
mean the numbers they are welcoming into Japan just absolutely
going gangbusters and we're stuck at eighty percent. Mike Pearl

(44:24):
Jam could have done three. No, they couldn't do you
know how? I know that because if they could have
done three, they would have because the sole purpose of
touring is to make some money. And if they go,
I reckon you could do three in Awkland A lot.

Speaker 22 (44:33):
Of people who went twice, and I do wonder if
they did do three, whether they would have gone three times.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
Well, then they need somebody like you Glin to oversee
their marketing operation.

Speaker 13 (44:41):
Because they are a rock band. If they are a
rock band, what about that? Isn't that a bit of rock?
You know when it builds up.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
That gets you going it? But doesn't it well?

Speaker 22 (44:56):
Getting me wrong? I love coal Play.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Who doesn't love col A Message Cold?

Speaker 22 (45:02):
I just don't think it's rock.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
He talked to the fans before he left Melbourne. He
went over through the fence talk to the fans, and
then he kissed the runway before he left, which makes
them unusual, But we love unusual. Otherwise you wouldn't be
listening with us.

Speaker 6 (45:16):
What do they call us?

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Christopher Luxum, We've got a sweep on how long you
talk to Trump? At what time the call started. This
is the biggest this is the important. Yes, we'll get
the other stuff, but we need to have sort of
sweep out. So Christopher lux and with us after the news,
which is next here at news.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
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Speaker 2 (45:48):
Twenty three minutes away from eight Mark and Junny after
eight Politics Wednesday, of course, but because of yesterday, are
we need to make up time? Prime Minister Christopher Luckson
with us.

Speaker 6 (45:56):
Good morning, Well, good morning Mike.

Speaker 10 (45:58):
Listen.

Speaker 7 (45:58):
Apologies about yesterday, but I want to say I'm back
on the show today with your beautiful show, with your
big audience and your big host. It's wonderful to be
with you.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Fantastic. Have you been talking to Donald Trump per chance?

Speaker 7 (46:10):
Yeah, that's the reason I didn't come on the show yesterday,
as you know. But apologies for that because no need,
no need for apologies. Straight from that show into national apology.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
If it had been the Prime Minister of Australia, I
would have been offended. But the President of the United states,
of course, I can call it right sweet stake sweep
steak time. I said the call was due to start
at seven forty. I said it started at eight fourteen.
Sam says eighteen, Glenn says eight twenty.

Speaker 6 (46:36):
Yeah, I think I think Sam might be on the money.

Speaker 7 (46:39):
Eighteen was delayed and there's a lot going on on
their site as they sort of go through those four
thousand appointments, and it was very decent. I'm actually to
take time out. So yes, it did start, it later
than anticipated, which is why we were in late with you.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Okay, so you're saying eighteen was it and Sam's the winner?

Speaker 6 (46:56):
Eight ten? Yepkay?

Speaker 2 (46:59):
Did he use the term at any point? I know
you can't talk about what was on the phone call,
I get that, but did he use the term at
any point? Drill baby, drill?

Speaker 6 (47:07):
No, he didn't.

Speaker 7 (47:09):
What we did is I congratulated him on what was,
you know, obviously a very decisive and comprehensive win. You
just reflecting on it, Ah, I don't think even Reagan
or Bush Senior won what were the trifector of the
three branches of government there, But you know, that was
an incredibly massive win, and I wanted to acknowledge that
congratulate him on that.

Speaker 6 (47:28):
He had was a very warm It was really a
relationship call.

Speaker 7 (47:31):
We hadn't met before and it was clear to me,
you know, he was very warm, he was looking forward
to catching up in person and due course, and also
you know the current perception of New Zealand is actually
very positive and also of our government. So you know,
it was a good, good call and we talked on
touched very briefly on some global conflicts, working to get
him into a Pacific and then discussed economic conditions really

(47:52):
in the US and also in New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Did you get a word in edgeways?

Speaker 6 (47:56):
Yeah, no, it was good.

Speaker 7 (47:57):
It was really good. Actually it was a good two
way conversation. And then again I was impressed that he
knew about New Zealand and he has a very favorable
impression of New Zealand as a country, which is fantastic.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
Did he use the word Bob Charles, No, there was
no Bob Charles mentioned Lydia co. No golf courses. Golf
courses yes, okay, did he name a golf course no,
So he said, you really have had a sweep state.
They've been running a tea Oh, yeah, no, no, no,
I need to pay the mortgage this month. I was
hoping that winter Monthy. Now, listen to more serious man.

Speaker 6 (48:29):
I'm on Your interest rates are coming down, Mike, I.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Yes they are now. As to yesterday, of all the
things you've done so far as Prime Minister, where did
yesterday sit for you?

Speaker 14 (48:40):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (48:40):
Yesterday was a pretty tough day. It was pretty emotional day.
You're facing up to, you know, you know, wide scale
abuse with tens of thousands of people that was impacted
from events that in some cases were up to seventy
years ago. And you have spent time with the survivors
and I can tell you incredible people, but just incredible Yeah,

(49:03):
just sad, harrowing stories to be honest. I've actually read
all three thousand pages of the Royal Commission of Inquiry
into State Abuse, and you know, I just encourage anyone
if you want to understand what's really gone on and
sort of actually do want to understand a bit more,
you go read one of those accounts, with a couple
of those accounts and you'll get a sense of how
the state didn't look after the most vulnerable people in

(49:23):
New Zealand at that time very well. So you know,
you feel a huge weight of responsibility because you're speaking
for the current government, but you're also speaking on behalf
of all previous governments that have come before, of all
different persuasions, and so yeah, that's why it was good
that myself and Chrysipkins were able to defront and to
be able to represent past down current governments and in
their future.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
Lies your dilemma though, because already somebody called it a
PR stunt yesterday and you've opened a can of worms.
I'm not blaming you for anything, but I mean there's
a tremendous expectation building that you're writing some checks and
no matter what you do, there's going to be disappointment.
I take it you're cognizant of that. You're in a boy.

Speaker 7 (50:04):
I mean, I mean, here's the situation. I mean, we've
had a six year raw Commission of Inquiry. It's been
our most complex longest we've ever had. You've got sixteen volumes,
you've got three thousand pages, you've got one hundred and
thirty recommendations and this report ninety five and an interim report.
A huge amount of complexity right over a huge amount
of time, with a massive set of individualized circumstances.

Speaker 6 (50:25):
Of wide scale abuse. So you know that's the starting point.

Speaker 7 (50:29):
So it is messy and it is difficult and it
is hard, but we actually have to talk about that
and we have to put some sunlight on that. So
then the question is you've got to do three things.
I think one is your first and foremost have to
acknowledge it, which is why the report needed to be
tabled in July finally and brought to light. You need
to have a formal apology. The second thing is we've
got to support the survivors. And thirdly, we have to

(50:49):
importantly prevent that abuse from happening again and upgrade all
of the practices across the agency. So look, no doubt
about it. It is difficult, it is messy. We will
not satisfy meet everybody's expectations as we go through it.
On the financial redress thing, Mike, it's quite I don't
think most New Zealanders would be aware, but for twenty
years now there has been a financial redress claims system

(51:11):
in place and four thousand survivors have had their claims
addressed through that. There's three and a half thousand in
the system currently and what we have had is feedback
from the Royal Commission that can take up to four
to five years, and that is part of the process.
Isn't very efficient or very fair or very good. We
think we can improve that in the short term, but

(51:32):
then we do have to move to one single independent
financial redress system, and that is complex and hard because yes,
we're dealing with difficult economic times for New Zealand, but
you're also dealing with acknowledging that no amount of money
frankly makes any of this abuse acceptable on any dimension.
So you know, it's starting from those points and then

(51:53):
having to find a way to work your way practically
through it.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Give me a time, when will they know?

Speaker 6 (51:59):
Erica and I are working.

Speaker 7 (52:00):
Really hard to make sure that we can do it
in early twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Five, and so the first half of twenty five.

Speaker 6 (52:05):
Yeah, yeah, and you know, we'll go as fast as
we possibly can to deal with that.

Speaker 7 (52:09):
But you know, there is a bit of you know,
there's quite a lot of design work to be done
as to you know, eligibility, how you actually administ the system.
At the moment, the claims process comes through four different
government agencies, you know, how for MSD or OT or
Education and it's variable, and some do it faster and
some do it slower, and then the payments are different,

(52:30):
and so you know, there's there's a whole bunch of
complexity to work through.

Speaker 6 (52:34):
As we sought that system out.

Speaker 2 (52:35):
Only got sixty seconds left a peck anything tangible or not.

Speaker 7 (52:40):
It's going to be interesting, Mike coming You've got a
US president at the end of the term, You've got
the Chinese president there. I will sit down with a
one on one bilateral with President she which I'm looking
forward to, you know. And it's a difficult time because
you know, we have strong advocates for free trade and
you've got many other countries around the world that have
been moving away from that US and China, and so

(53:01):
I'm really interested in my first one to see whether
we can make the case for you know, good trading
principles that we can excite the other twenty one countries around.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Oh quickly, sorry, almost forgot the fair Digital News Bargaining Bill.
Is it dead in the water? It was supposed to
be on the paperwork today it's not. It's vanished. Is
it dead?

Speaker 10 (53:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (53:19):
No, Look, that's really a question for Paul Goldsmith. I
tasked him with that role to work his way through
that issue.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
But what did you tell you when you see it's
not on the thing today, Paul, No.

Speaker 7 (53:28):
That's just us juggling some other things around that we
want to get through before the end of the year.
As I've got these forty three actions that I'm pushing
pretty hard. I've got a few of them coming in
the last two weeks of the year, so I'm pushing minutes.
It is still your life, surely, Yeah, still life.

Speaker 6 (53:43):
And he's working his way through it.

Speaker 10 (53:45):
I know he is.

Speaker 6 (53:46):
He'll pop up and have more to say about it, surely, right.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Appreciate you time. Christpher luxem Ployments seven.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
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Speaker 2 (53:58):
It be Mike Quarren Central a Tiger and eighty percent
of previous tourist numbers as any amount. Thank you. I
take your point, Mike with the evs. No one wants
to waste time to fill up a car. Takes you
under a minute to fill a car with an EV
It's a round two or three hours. It's the age
old problem, of course, Mike. What are the actual stats
of sales of EV's there seems to be heaps on
the north shore of Auckland. There are, but those are

(54:19):
people who bought cars previously. Mike Warren here GM of
byd New Zealand. Globally, EV sales are up this year.
What you're seeing is a big decline and legacy car
make REB sales because the technology is bad b Why
I'm sure they'd argue with that byd are hiring their
one millionth employee. They sold in delivered over half a
million plug in vehicles last month alone. Sixty eight percent
of all EB sold in the world come from China.

(54:40):
The other Western brands are behind. I think you'll find
EV sales in the States are up as well, particularly
from the Korean brands. What I know from the New
Zealand numbers, and they came out the other day just
just for October. There were twelve five hundred and seventy
one cars sold in October New second strongest month of
the year, so that part's encouraging. EV's went backwards last month.
This is from the TO Trade Association. You only sold

(55:02):
one hundred and forty three Ford Mustang marquees byd at
O three fifty nine of them sold in a month.
Bebs fell from their twenty percent share of the market
in October of twenty twenty three to six point eight percent,
so they're going backwards in this country. The interesting thing is,
and this is out of an EV show that was
happening this week or is happening this week, an Australia

(55:23):
guy called Jason Clark, who's the head of True EV.
He says, what's going to happen is a lot of
these brands are going to vanish. So you're seeing some
of these new car car brands come into the market,
both Australia and New Zealand. There are two hundred EV
brands in China currently. He thinks only seven of them
will survive. So you're going to see one hundred and

(55:44):
ninety three car makers vanish. And what that means is
we're going to have to adjust our thinking. If you're
going to buy a Chinese EV. I'd never buy a
Chinese EV personally, but if you're going to have to
think of a car as a fridge, or a television
or a pair of socks. In other words, when you
go back to buy a new one and it's not
there anymore, you'll have to go up, Well, I'll go

(56:05):
buy something else because we're emotionally are holden exactly like
when you go into a hold and see I mean
that's you say holden because how many legacy brands have disappeared?
If you I mean, can you tell me there's one
hundred and ninety seven legacy brands disappearing? No, because they haven't.
And that's the difference. And so suddenly your investment of
fifty sixty seventy eighty ninety thousand dollars that you bought

(56:28):
into isn't going to be there anymore because they're going
to collapse. One day they're there, one day they're not.
So it's going to be interesting to see how that's unfold.
Citrons already leaving this country, Reno's leaving this country, not
completely because they can't compete with the sales. So the market,
the car market in general, is a major upheaval at
the moment. So it's going to be fascinated to watch
how it unfolds. But I go back to my earlier

(56:48):
question that I raised, given EV sales aren't selling in
places like New Zealand, America, Australia, et cetera. They're not
increasing in the way they thought. What happens next when
you do count something as they are in Britain by
thirty three percent and you still can't sell it? What
happens next? Nither way?

Speaker 1 (57:07):
Thee my costume, breakfast with the Ranger rover, the line
use TODV.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Just let me finish off my ev rent This morning
Queensland Racetrack, Ipswich, willow Bank Raceway. After careful consideration an investigation,
Willowbank Raceway has decided we can no longer allow road
registered fully electric vehicles to race or test at Willowbank Raceway.
Risks associated with racing and testing electric vehicles is too high.
We will continue to allow hybrid vehicles to run. The

(57:34):
chassis remaining electrified without an easy access isolations which are
on the outside is of problem. Specific fire suppression systems
required to extinguish an EV fire. That's a major problem.
Electric vehicles not being able to roll with the power
is connected. So if you want to race your rev
in Ipswich, you're out of luck. Meantime, Lamborghini globally of
have announced they've sold more cars than they've ever sold

(57:55):
in their sixty year history in the first nine months
of twenty twenty four eighty four hundred people around the
world have got anywhere between I'm guessing a six seven,
eight hundred nine hundred thousand a million dollars for a
car they've never sold, and not one of them is
there will be. There's one coming that is electric, but
the rest of them aren't. They all got big engines
that go braun while I'm Gary Luniker. I don't know

(58:16):
if you're really interested in Gary Luneker and Match of
the Day, but he's been a controversial figure on Match
of the Day for many, many years and it's been
building up to the fact that he's potentially going to
leave Match of the Day and that's been confirmed in
the last twenty four hours. It seems they're not renewing
his contract. That he went into negotiations, he says semi
controversial things on social media mainly, and then the BBC

(58:39):
do nothing about him, and then everyone goes, how come
Gary Luniker gets the thing what he really wants, because
you know what the BBC's like in terms of you
know what you can and can't say, so so it
all came to a bit of a head and he
went to negotiators contract and they've decided, for reason's best
known to themselves that he can go. And so he's
out the door. He'll probably end up on ITV or
somewhere like that.

Speaker 22 (58:59):
That's constantly door stopping him as he comes out out
of his house. An't they is the classic dogs in
their owners situation. There isn't there very much, sir.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
By the way, while I'm on ITV. ITV are currently
the host broadcasters of the current snooker Championship which is
going on called the Champion of Champions And I've noted
with just just a delirious amount of excitement in the
very early hours of the morning when I'm sitting here
waiting for Sammy to arrive because he comes in later
than me because he's not as dedicated to his job.

(59:26):
But he brings in the cake and the sandwiches and
we have a little picnic in the morning before he arrives. Anyway,
they're running Sky's got snookerback on? Sky has got snooker
back on? I said, where the hell is the snooker
on Sky? And the next thing I know, they got
snooker on Sky? So they got my subscription sorted out.
I've got Sky go by the way that was part
of the big television We got sky Go. Haven't used
it yet, but and my wife said to me, what's

(59:50):
the point of having sky Go if you're not going
to use it?

Speaker 1 (59:54):
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Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
Is it our Za, of course it is. It wasn't
sky Go sky Now? Sky Go, Yeah, sky Go now.

Speaker 22 (01:00:27):
So you have sky Now on your TV? Right, why
would you have that when you already subscribe to sky though.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Don't ask those sort of questions. What have I got
that I haven't used sky Go now, sky Stop? I
don't know what I've got?

Speaker 22 (01:00:40):
Just stop talking about it.

Speaker 20 (01:00:41):
This is a.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Ballet through the Mud, a completely instrumental and orchestral work
composed entirely by Wu Tang Clan. That those were the
people who did that that original albument for Lots of
Money perform at the Colorado Symphony Orchestra conducted by Christopher Dragon.
He'd probably say Dragon woulden Hello, I'm Christopher Dragon. Of

(01:01:07):
eleven pieces inspired by Riz's own life experiences and aims
to reflect his journey from being brought up in the
housing projects of Staaten, Ireland to his present state as
a star of the entertainment industry. Would we call him
a rock icon?

Speaker 22 (01:01:22):
I don't think you call the Wu Tang Clan rock either.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Mothers which tracktisically?

Speaker 22 (01:01:34):
This is clear Sky after Storm.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Track two, five minutes and twenty seven seconds feels like
it's been going on that long already, and it hasn't.

Speaker 22 (01:01:43):
It's such a hater of classical music.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
Each of their own Fingal's cave the Hebrides Overture. I
studied that at school. I regard myself as an expert
in the Hebrides Overture and also Beethoven's Third Piano Concerto.
I studied.

Speaker 22 (01:02:00):
Yet here I am and how does how does resis work?

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Where Rizzies are? I don't where risids? It's into any
of this moment's past state Time for politics Wednesday. Mark
Mitchell's with us along with Jenny Anderson. Good morning to
you both.

Speaker 23 (01:02:10):
Morning, Mike, morning, Jenny, Good morning, Mark, Good morning, Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
How were you Jinny yesterday with the apology? How did
that sort of feel?

Speaker 10 (01:02:19):
Well?

Speaker 14 (01:02:20):
I was?

Speaker 19 (01:02:21):
I was in shed Sex, so I got to sit
with survivors as we watched the live stream down in Wellington,
and that was a remarkable experience to sit and watch
Parliament alongside people who were heckling politicians and calling out
and responding with their own experiences. So it was humbling

(01:02:41):
and pretty heavy feeling. And then I got the opportunity
of talking with them because there's a number of breaks
during that time to talk to them, and they told
me about some of their experiences. So it was it was,
it was really heavy, and it was it felt like
a good day, but it was there was a lot
going on.

Speaker 24 (01:03:00):
What about you, Marke, Yeah, I just think it was
an emotional day for sort of everyone involved, and it
was an important, an important historical day for us as
a country. And I think that, you know, although some
people say words don't matter, I think when it's an
apology and it's a heartfelt apology, then actually it does matter,
and that recognition matters. So I was one of one

(01:03:23):
of the ministers involved in the response by the government,
so I spent the full day with survivors. I had
a very interesting long chat with three gang members that
were there who all want to leave the gang and
looking for ways to do that. But so it's just
it was a good opportunity for all of us to
be able to spend quality time with them and send
a message that they had been heard, and now it's

(01:03:45):
time to move forward.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
I've got more questions, but let me just get this
out of the way. Jerry brownly looks, and I got
to agree with them. Where this is not you, Mark?
Because yeah, there's an operational matter. But where were the police?
For goodness sake? If it was more than they were
super slow?

Speaker 23 (01:04:04):
Oh, I think that's make might be gone.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Oh he's gone. What do you make of it?

Speaker 23 (01:04:08):
Look it was I'm pretty sure it was.

Speaker 19 (01:04:10):
It was a Destiny affiliated person who jumped up it
was first of all, was it was not his day?

Speaker 23 (01:04:16):
It was it was offensive for some of those survivors
who were there. So usually the police are up there.

Speaker 19 (01:04:22):
Whenever I'm sitting in question time, I can see a
police officer up there, So they typically are around. And
so I think it's hard sometimes in a full gallery
physically to weigh in amongst people and weed someone out
to infrasection remove them.

Speaker 14 (01:04:37):
Sorry, for some reason, I dropped out, so I only
got part of your question.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
The question was where were the police. I mean, Browny
was beside himself and I think, right if somebody had
a gun or a bomb or ill intent, it was
too slow.

Speaker 24 (01:04:52):
So obviously Parliamentary Security handled it. And by the way,
they did an outstanding job.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
And if there was the guy was yelling and renting
and raving for a ludicrous amount of time. I couldn't
help the contrast. And I was watching it live, I
couldn't help the contrast. If that was America, people would
have been taken out within seconds. In fact, they wouldn't have.
Given THEE was the serial operator, he wouldn't have been
lettin in the first place.

Speaker 24 (01:05:17):
Well, bearing in mind that he's already come through security,
so he's already had security checks, so he wouldn't have
had weapons in there with them. Secondly that yes, they
could have jumped all over them. There could have been
a big fight with bearing in mind that we had
survivors and we had members of the public in there.
And the best way to handle it was the way
that Parliamentary Services did, and that they had to use force.

(01:05:39):
But they had the numbers there and they removed them
and what I think was probably the least impactful way. Yes,
it was annoying to have the ceremony interrupted like that,
but I think it would have been much worse if
there was serious violence meted out in front of people
that have suffered and gone through what they've gone through.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
All Right, bree break more in a moment. Jenny Anderson,
Mark Mitchell thirteen Past.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
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Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Talks Balks Caught a Past Day, Juniy Anderson, Mark Mitchell
Politics Wednesday, Junior, I tell you who I sort of
felt sorry for yesterday was the Solicitor General. And I'm
not sure that people understand when all the department heads
stood up and said sorry. I thought the Department of
Health Guard was probably the best. But but but, Joe Goos,
I don't think that people understand that a lawyer is

(01:06:27):
there to represent their clients, in this case, the government,
and you do your best on behalf of that client
and whether or not it looks to the rest of
the world like the right thing to do is not
really the point, is it.

Speaker 19 (01:06:40):
She would be acting on behalf of the government, so
the action she took are at that is due to that,
So you're right, Yeah, I thought her apology was heartfelt,
but it was you could say it was incredibly difficult
for her. But ye, I have to empathize also with
survivors who you know, her name is on emails. She's

(01:07:00):
obstructing people getting compensation, so you know, I can see both.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Of you, but under instruction from her client.

Speaker 24 (01:07:08):
Yeah, she's not personally trying to obstruct anyone.

Speaker 14 (01:07:12):
She's doing her job as a solicitor general.

Speaker 24 (01:07:14):
And I wouldn't spoke I wouldn't spoke to as straight afterwards,
because look, there was as you could see, Mike, there's
a lot of emotion in the day, and these our
chief executives that stood up, and I thought they all
did an outstanding job. They're talking about things that have
happened in our past as a country and making an apology,
and so I think that she's, you know, she's she

(01:07:35):
does an outstanding job. I hope that she didn't take
that personally. I think it was directed at the office
and people were venting.

Speaker 19 (01:07:43):
Would I think people too, it's it's the compensation issue,
which is outstanding. All of the survivors I spoke with,
you know, while the apology is just the start, abuse
is still happening there's a lot more worker here to
ensure that our care systems are safe by places. But
there are many people out there who are in the
latest stages of their lives who are due compensation.

Speaker 23 (01:08:03):
I think that's the upsdeating question.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
This is the can of worms you've got, Mark, is
that first of all, you must know, you all must
know that no matter what you do, someone somewhere is
going to be unhappy with it all. And so how
you present it when you present it in the time
And you can feel the pressure already, can't you.

Speaker 14 (01:08:19):
Yeah, But I mean you know we have to respond
to that with the government of the day.

Speaker 24 (01:08:22):
And that's what we're doing is Eric has already made
sure that we've put measures in place. There's four thousand
people that are still sitting there waiting, so we're going
to fast track them through a fast tracked process. And
of course the building fled out a proper readers system
that will be launched next year, because yes, we do
want to get this stune quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
Did you, Jenny, upon reading Audrey Young's piece in the
Herald basically ranking you the second most effective member of
the opposition, did you shout every one morning tea or.

Speaker 19 (01:08:55):
No, we haven't head of caucus yet, so I haven't
had the opportunity to offer that. You know, we've got
a really strong team and I'm proud to be one
of those people were Just because you don't get picked
up by Audrey doesn't mean there's other hard people wishing
incredibly hard. So yeah, it was nice to be acknowledged,
but lots of other people who didn't get acknowledged were
just as hard as I do.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
She described Duncan web as having a fairly inauspicious start
to life in terms of being a cabinet minister, and
basically she said, he is a bit useless, but he
might have come to life. Would you agree with it?

Speaker 23 (01:09:26):
No, I wouldn't. Duncan's amazing.

Speaker 19 (01:09:28):
It's really good to have someone with the breadth of
legal knowledge that he does in particularly and constitutional issues,
and we work together really closely on bills such as
the Treaty Principles one which is coming up this Thursday.

Speaker 23 (01:09:40):
So having his knowledge and background is a huge set
for our team.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
The old Treaty Principles. Bill, Mark, here's the text for
you this morning. Hi, Mike, I hope you're going to
give Mark Mitchell grief this morning over the Hikoy protest
posing down lanes on the Auckland Harbor Bridge. How do
you balance that?

Speaker 24 (01:09:56):
Yes, So basically MTTA with a traffic management plan working
with the Hikoy police are there to ensure that there
is no breach to the peace or laws being broken. Fundamentally,
from what I understand, they crossing the bridge at nine
point thirty. Of course he would have preferred said a
bit later than that, But what's important, and they're shutting

(01:10:17):
down they're not shutting down southbound lane, So.

Speaker 14 (01:10:23):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 24 (01:10:24):
So there's as little impact as possible on people, which
is of course what the aim is. The reality here
is it is much better to keep this and organized
hakoi than trying to break it up and splintering it
and you end up with a whole lot of unauthorized
protests going on all over the show, and that would
that would just create absolute chaos.

Speaker 19 (01:10:41):
So you wouldn't it be easier though, But wouldn't it
be easier if Christopher Luxen just told they would say
more to stick a stupid bell.

Speaker 23 (01:10:47):
Wouldn't that be amad really easy?

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
And then then all the people who voted in an
election and the democratic process Jenny wouldn't have what they
voted for, which would sort of make it slightly complicated,
which is.

Speaker 19 (01:10:56):
What a bell that goes nowhere, a bill that goes
nowhere is the output or the outcome for that belt.

Speaker 2 (01:11:02):
I do tend to agree with you on that. I
say the weird thing about it's not your problem, Mark,
but I mean how Luxe and got that across the line,
to the point he got it across the lines the
weirdest thing because you guys must have known it was
going to be a pain in your butt in something
you're not supporting.

Speaker 14 (01:11:16):
Well, it's called MMP.

Speaker 24 (01:11:17):
And he had a very difficult job that he had
to take on in terms of negotiating with two other
parties and there were bottom lines around those and he
had to negotiate the best way forward and through that
to former government. And Ginny Anderson and the Labor Party
will find out all about m MP.

Speaker 14 (01:11:33):
When they come to the election twenty six. Well, they'll
find out.

Speaker 24 (01:11:41):
They'll find out the demands that are going to be
put on them if they want to campaign try and
form a government.

Speaker 14 (01:11:47):
In twenty twenty six.

Speaker 24 (01:11:49):
They're going to find out that they've got a partner
to party, Marry Party that A're going to have some
pretty ugly demands put on them.

Speaker 19 (01:11:57):
It's it's the racial division, huge upheople that's causing.

Speaker 23 (01:12:01):
Is just a political power deal.

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That's what ke.

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We have a tough time. There's no output.

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Nice to see you guys. Will catch up next Wednesday.
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a little bit perky. In Australia, consumer confidence highest level
in almost three years. This is the Westpac Melbourne Institute
Measure five point three. It's up by It's now up
fourteen and a half percent since the middle of the year,
so they're feeling good. Australians no longer concerned about the
risk of further interest rate rises, becoming more confident about
the economic outlook, all of which is good for the
Government of course he became. Elbow became a little bit

(01:13:44):
testy with the reporters yesterday because he was busy going
I can't Apparently we're in the thrills of an election campaign.
He's speaking in Tasmania and he was asked multiple times
about electure reports that the WA premier guy called Roger
Cook is looking to change the Western Australian election date

(01:14:07):
to avoid a clash with the federal election date, so
currently scheduled for March eight. So he if the rumors
are true, Elbow's going early. He's got to go. I
think by May. There was a story floating around for
a while he could have gone this year, but this
year's turned into such a disaster for him he can't
possibly do that, so March eight. So he got all
sort of angsty about that. And if I get time,

(01:14:27):
the other thing they've been investigating, and this is proof positive.
I suppose that if you have more competition, that brings
prices down. Since Rex and BONDSA fell over, airlines prices
have gone up by as much as ninety five percent,
So competition does appear to work anyway. More on the
shortly after the News, which is next on the Mike

(01:14:48):
Hosking Breakfast here at news talks eNB.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The
mic Hosking breakfast with the range Rover villa designed to
intrigue and use togs.

Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
That'd be it is the funniest story of the last
two days. This wicked business. Mattel's had to pull all
the Wicked branded dolls because this is target Walmart, Amazon,
Best Buy, Barnes and Noble Macy's millions of dollars worth
of trouble. We deeply regret this unfortunate error and are

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taking immediate action to remedy this Wicked's coming to a
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incorrect website is not appropriate for children. Consumers who already
have the product are advised to discard the product packaging
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It do apart from telling you throw the box out

(01:15:44):
films in November twenty two, it does lead to the
fascinating question, how does this happen? You're asking, well, what
the hell's happened? What's happened is that the address they've
given for the wicked dolls on the box takes you
directly to a pawn site. And that wasn't what was
It wasn't what they were planning.

Speaker 22 (01:16:05):
No, No, I thought they were sounding like good value
for money.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
So it's off the shelf, twenty two minutes away from nine.

Speaker 16 (01:16:10):
International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind
for New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
Business, so friendly, we go through price. Very good morning
to you. Good morning Kevin rudde So they're not pulling
him from the job. He stays there. But I don't
know how he digs himself out of us.

Speaker 20 (01:16:26):
No, I don't know.

Speaker 11 (01:16:27):
Obviously, Kevin Rudd was the Captain's picked by Anthony Albanezi
to be ambassador to the United States. Any of us
me included, who know Kevin Rudd, immediately thought this is
going to spill trouble for somebody down the track. Well,
they never thought Donald Trump would get elected, that includes
the Prime Minister. So when Donald Trump won this time

(01:16:47):
last week, everybody started digging around looking at things that
Kevin Rudd and Anthony Albanezi in fact had said about
Donald Trump in the past, and Shari Mark's and My
colleague on Sky last night managed to find old video
of Kevin calling Donald Trump a village idiot who likes

(01:17:10):
to hang out with dictators. Now, how do you think
that's going to go down? When Kevin turns up with
his little documents that the White House wants Trump's back
in the presidential office and says, look, we need a
bit of help with the Orchest submarine player program, or
we don't want you to put tariffs on Australian wine.
I mean, it's just not going to go well. Kevin

(01:17:32):
Rudd is his own worst enemy. I mean, I've told
you before about how he called me a Douglas coward
in a letter he wanted to publish publicly in the newspaper.
I wrote a column for the guy just he thinks,
and this is the other. He's so arrogant that he
didn't wipe his social media history of things he'd said
about Trump until this time last week when Trump won.

(01:17:56):
So he's not even gone back and gone on all
this guy might be a chance to win. Het Kamala
Harris was going to win. So I don't know how
he survives. The British ambassador, who had already had also
said bad things about Trump resigned after a couple of days.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
So I don't know how the brutish Lammy David Lamy
said it's old news. I mean, what are they saying efficient?
What does Rudd say officially? What does Elbow say officially
about it?

Speaker 11 (01:18:19):
Well, Alba was confronted by about this media conference in
Tasmania yesterday, took one question, then turned his back and
walked away. Kevin Rudd has said nothing and the only
information we have about Rudd's current activities apparently he's in
the year of Scott Morrison, the former Prime Minister, to
try and smooth things over and get him the channel

(01:18:40):
to Trump. Now, Morrison did the Orchest deal originally with
Trump when Trump was in power, and Morrison is now
involved in a lobbying company that deals in defense industries
and he's actually a partnered up with Mike Pompeio. They
both thought that Pompeo would be in the new Trump administration.
Of course he's not.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
Okay, Elbow going to ape.

Speaker 11 (01:19:02):
It's going to Apac And the G twenty says in
Peru first and then he's in Rio, and quite rightly,
the Opposition Foreign Affairs spokesman Simon Birmingham said, well, while
you're over there, why wouldn't you make an appointment to
go to Mara Lago, drag your coat through the gate
and go and see don and see if he can
smooth things over and work out what's going to happen

(01:19:23):
when all these tariffs come on. Albo said, well, it's
not on the way. Well, it's a fair bit on
the way. I would have thought, I mean Peru, and
I haven't looked at the map lately, but.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
Peru, Well it's only America's, isn't it Exactly?

Speaker 11 (01:19:37):
He's got a private jet. I mean, wouldn't it make sense?
Or somehow you think that if you go and see
him before he actually gets inaugurted, you're going to upset
Joe Biden. Well, I don't know about that, because it's
revealed this morning in Australian that the Prime Minister is
not having any on the sidelines meetings with Joe Biden
when he's at these meetings anyway, So what's the point.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
I watched Elbow yesterday in TASMANI you got very upsets.
So two things about it. One does wa election date?
How much do you read into that? So March therefore
they're trying to rig that around, So that could be
a federal election date and what isn't wins the day there?
Is that real or not?

Speaker 11 (01:20:14):
Yeah, it's real. I mean I've got a feeling he
will like to go in March, mainly because the next
time the Reserve Backboard meets they won't put rates down
this year, so it would be in the February meeting,
and that means that in the middle of an election
campaign you'd have an interest rate cut. Now that's a
pretty tempting thing if you're a Prime minister who's backing

(01:20:35):
his whole administration on the cost of living. So that's
why he would go. Then the Western Australian election, I
mean they have set dates. Most states in this country
are now on four year terms with set dates on
when elections are, so the WA government would have to
go to I guess the governor of Western Australia and
see if they can delay the date. But Albo looks

(01:20:56):
It's interesting you mentioned that media conference. He looks comfortable,
nervous and when challenged now gets angry. Now that's the
sign for me of someone under huge pressure.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
Exactly, Hailey Mary, I know not the name, but she's
been canned. What for you love this?

Speaker 11 (01:21:13):
She's a singer songwriter that no one's herd of, but
Hailey Mary or Hail Mary, She's going to be known
from now on. Decided to put on a Maga hat
in a video clip that she said she made intentionally
for shock value. Now, she was arguing against this misinformation
bill that the government's trying to put through the Australian Parliament,
and I'll talk about that at some point next week.

(01:21:35):
She said, Look, it would have been boring if I
didn't put the hat on. So what's happened since? Well?

Speaker 21 (01:21:41):
You know?

Speaker 11 (01:21:41):
She her publicist has resigned the music venue where she
was going to perform, scrapped her show to promote the
solo album, and ABC youth broadcaster Triple J has blacklisted
her music just because she put the mega hat on.
But she's a pretty spark girl, she said, Look, I
was aware what would happen, but I think the bill's

(01:22:03):
so dangerous I needed to do it. The hat was
a symbolic way to announce the voluntary end of my
career career in the woke music industry. You've got to
get this girl on, said, I think the art should
be a place for freedom of speech. She knew it'd
be triggering to put the hat on, But I think
Trump is the president of the free world. Seventy three
million people voted for it, and I'm not sure if

(01:22:24):
we need to change our relationship. Well, that good honor.

Speaker 14 (01:22:27):
I like her.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
No, I like her. We'll give us a number and
we'll get on to it. Well, I mat, we'll catch
up next week. Appreciate it. Steve Price out of Australia
already sixteen to nine.

Speaker 1 (01:22:36):
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Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
AD be some maths here, I'll come to in just
a moment. Yeah, the air fist thing. This is bonds
are and rex. So this backs up people who argue
that we need more airlines. The problem with we don't
have room for more airlines. Every time another airline comes
into the country, they fall over because there aren't enough
people in this country to support more air lines. And
we've just learned in Australia, of course, there aren't enough
people in Australia to support the number of airlines they had.

(01:23:03):
Hence bonds are and rex fall over. The report comes
out from the ARIPLEC yesterday the Australian Competition Consumer Commission
that since REX went into administration in July, airfares on
major routes have gone through the roof, so there is
no longer any route in Australia serves by more than
two major airline groups Quantus owned Jetstar and then there's Virgin,
so they carry ninety eight percent of all domestic passengers.

(01:23:25):
Adelaide to Melbourne is up ninety five percent one way
for discounted fares, Melbourne Gold Coast up seventy percent. In July,
REX accounted for six percent of all seak capacity. Since
the Airlian's administration, total capacity on major routes is full
and six percent. So that's what happens with the lack
of competition. So the argument here that we need more
competition is right. And I know that the Consumer's Institute

(01:23:46):
are banging on endlessly at the moment about getting the
ComCom involved in air New Zealand and what they're charging
around the countryside. But the problem is we just don't
have enough people to support more airlines. What we do
have enough people for, apparently is more streaming services and
so Sky now, I'm loving my Sky now when I
turn my television on my big new screen and my

(01:24:08):
snug I see Sky now sitting there and I haven't
done anything with it, but it is sitting there and
I'm paying money. But as of this morning, listen to this.
This will blow your mind. Prime Video. Prime is one
of your subscription services, which I also have, and I
know it exists because they're the ones who ran Clarkson's Farm,
and that was the last time I watched Clarkson's For
the last time I watched anything on Prime was Clarkson's

(01:24:29):
Farm in Grandeur of course Grandeur. Yeah, did watch the
Grand Tour. But they're now offering as of today, add
on subscriptions, so you pay for your Prime, and because
you pay for your Prime, you can pay even more
for some of their ad ons, so they're adding all
sorts of interesting things like MGM plus, Hey you, lions Gate,

(01:24:50):
Crunchy Roll. Be in sports. That'll be a genuine, genuine
interest to a lot of people. Be in sports, carry
a lot of football, of course. My one's doc play
now doc play interesting. Doc play has the home of
in Restless Dreams, which is a documentary that's got a
lot of buzz around. Paul Simon in excess of three hours.
It's the quintessential. If you love Paul Simon like I do,

(01:25:12):
it is the documentary apparently to watch.

Speaker 22 (01:25:15):
As I say that this is the one that you
haven't been able to find.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
Haven't been able to find? Oh, and now I can
because on doc Play at eight ninety nine a month,
I can subscribe to doc Play and then I can
watch immediately Paul Simon, because that's where it is. But
here's the problem. I was just quickly doing these maths.
If you take all of the services they are now
offering to subscribe to rialto's one of them, Moby Love,
Nature Play, Kids Learning, you can add along with your

(01:25:41):
Amazon price, whatever your Amazon price currently is. I don't know,
you can add ninety eight dollars a month, ninety eight
dollars a month, and you will have presumably every single
program that's ever been made in the history of television basically.

Speaker 22 (01:25:55):
But I mean, you're probably unlikely to be a person
who wants your Paul Simon documentary and also wants to
avail yourself of all the anime that's available on crunchy roll,
for example.

Speaker 2 (01:26:07):
That's true.

Speaker 22 (01:26:08):
I don't know, I don't really mark you as a
big anime fan.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
Wohen at the moment, I've got about teen twelve thirteen
fifteen subscriptions.

Speaker 22 (01:26:16):
You don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
I don't watch any of them.

Speaker 22 (01:26:19):
Apparently, not only as a Sky subscriber, but you're also
paying for Sky Now, which is what people get if
they're not Sky subscribers.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
Also Neon, which is connected.

Speaker 22 (01:26:29):
Exactly thing again as well. Yeah, So what you're.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
Saying is there are people out there, probably not many
of us, but a lot of idiots out there that
pay money for stuff they don't watch.

Speaker 10 (01:26:37):
You.

Speaker 2 (01:26:38):
Before you know it, I'm probably going to be on
Crunchy roll and I'll probably never watch any animal that's
nine ninety nine a month ten bucks a month.

Speaker 22 (01:26:47):
Right, Hey, Jim and I create an anime version of
Mike Hosking to play on Crunchy Role.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
Nine minutes away from nine.

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Men's got a Deacon priss with the beer and sport

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five minutes away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
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Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
Day like it was negative. Yeah, I watched television all weekend.
I got a trailer for the new Bridget Jones movie.
This is the fourth first to Night years. So it's
been a while navigating life. Of course, after mister Darcy
dies while while while on a humanitarian mission, Bridget, you're
a widow with two wonderful children live.

Speaker 6 (01:28:31):
Advice to you is put your own oxygen mask on first.

Speaker 10 (01:28:34):
You just have late and not enough to survive. You've
got to live, Harry child.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
Now that is what I call a green brand.

Speaker 5 (01:28:46):
Did you have sex?

Speaker 14 (01:28:47):
Did you have sex?

Speaker 2 (01:28:47):
Did you have sex last night?

Speaker 10 (01:28:49):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
I did.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
I had a full night of utterly mind.

Speaker 1 (01:28:53):
Blowing sex and it was amazing.

Speaker 22 (01:29:02):
I'm good, Daniel, Minota Darcy. What's the news? Why are
the ladies with the big hair?

Speaker 10 (01:29:08):
Well, they couldn't make it.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
I'm afraid that i'd washing their hair all three Well,
they wash each other's.

Speaker 22 (01:29:12):
You see.

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
He's good, isn't he.

Speaker 15 (01:29:14):
I love him.

Speaker 2 (01:29:15):
I love him as much as I love Paul Simon,
and that's a lot of love. Bridget Jones made about
the boy Zellwegger, obviously Leo Woodle. You'll know from White
Lotus he's the love Interest. Isle of Fish's back, Emma
Thompson's there, Hugh Grant of course, and it comes to
cinemas February thirteen. Actually, speaking of other people, I love

(01:29:42):
after right tomorrow Steve Elker. He's had such a wonderful
time this year and we get him on every time
he wins something massive, and he's won something massive, so
we thought, let's get him on again, so we will.
So we'll look forward to your company from six tomorrow
as always, Happy days.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
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