Full Show Podcast: 14 March 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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and welcome.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Today one of the investment heavyweights here for the big summit.
What have they made of our message? Do they have
a checkbook? Reading to go? We've got some very good
news for you on Joe Parker overnight as well the
Health MINISTROMD that's growing procurement scandal, David seymore on more
maraification and why oh why aren't they actually doing something
about it? Tim O Katy after right, Murray Olds and
Richard Arnold are our globalists, Posking Friday morning, Welcome to

(00:35):
at seven past six. So I suppose technically it is
only halfway through, I mean today, still to go. But
this investment summit it looked good to me day one.
There seems no doubt that one a lot of people
with a lot of money turned up, and two some
of them spoke of their desire to bid for projects.
Now the Prime Minister, who needs some runs on the board,
of course, I think, has some out of this, and
he hasn't even left for India. His pitch that we
are a shelter from the storm. That was smart. He

(00:57):
looked like he'd done this before. Perhaps we are seeing
a little bit of what all those other delegates on
the international sojourn see. This is what he does well.
He networks, he presses flesh, He pumps ideas. He has
a plan, nothing specific, as in sign on the dotted
line writer check here and now will come out of this,
of course, But already you can see, given the thing
is over, subscribe that the Prime Minister is right. The

(01:17):
world is ash with cash and they are keen to invest.
Six trillion is a stunning amount of money. And if
only a small chunk of it comes our way, and
if only a tiny slice build some roads or future
proof some infrastructure, this will have been well worth it. Obviously,
eventually the proof will be in the pudding. Someone needs
a signing ceremony, and may be a spade or two
to be stuck in the ground. But I got the sense,

(01:39):
as a frustrated punter, observer, voter, whatever, that it's these
sort of days and these sort of events that make
us look like we might be on some sort of
path back that we looked a little bit professional and
interested that we might just have some decent adults about
the place looking to put our stake in the global
game and bring the world so long locked out of
this place back into the room. Luxen leaves this and

(02:01):
can come back with something tangible next week from India,
then it may well be we feel things are starting
to roll. As I've said many many times, it is
hard to overstate the economic carnage they were handed, and
it's still far from over. I mean, the immigration numbers
just yesterday reminded us of this. No, they're not leaving
in the numbers they once did, but they are still leaving,
and the arrivals are slowing as well. Fewer people means

(02:23):
less economic activity. But you fix all that with reputation,
a reputation of a rock star, of a success story,
of a go getter. Yesterday and hopefully today look like
they are part of that bigger success story.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
News of the world.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
In ninety seconds, the Americans still on their way for
a word with the Russians on the war.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Now.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
The Russians are pointing out that even if a ceasefire
has agreed, it ain't over.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
They should just like to good they my gratitude to
President Trump for trying to settle the situation, and Ukraine
has devoted a lot of attention to it. Since we
all have our own business to attend to.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
That's we all talk with Andrew about the shortly. But
the Americans, amidst the walls and the tariffs, which are
also will also have the issue at the moment of
running out of money and the government grinding too a
halt again, so the scrap is on to get the votes,
and one of those votes belongs to Corey Booker.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
I'm not talking strategy right now.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
I'm just talking about the outreach.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
I cannot support giving them a license to destroy nor
that surrenders or capitulates what I swore in North to do,
which is uph all the Constitution.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
So I think there's a no then to britainwick Kiyostama
as fast becoming my new political hero. He's dozingly in Ags.

Speaker 6 (03:36):
I'm bringing management of the NHS back into democratic control
by abolishing the arms length body NHS England. That will
put the NHS back at the heart of government where
it belongs.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
The Health Secretary says, yeah, baby.

Speaker 6 (03:54):
There are more than twice as many staff as when
the NHS delivered the short waiting times and the highest
patient satisfaction in history.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Even a former health secretary who's a Tory says, yeah, baby.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
Ish, if this means we start to regulate with a
much lighter touch in the way we do with schools,
for example, I am cautiously optimistic that this is a
positive step.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Hard to overstate that move, or understate the mover, or
whatever the case may be. It's a major move, is
what I'm trying to say. Another labor leader, by the way,
this one in Australia, has waded into the an influencer
grabbed a wombat debate.

Speaker 7 (04:30):
And you know, I suggest to this so called influencer,
maybe she might try some other Australian animals. Take a
baby crocodile from its mother and see how you go there?

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Is he getting worse? Finally, if you haven't heard about
Nijar too, you should or will. It came out on
Chinese New Year back in January. It's a movie out
of China. Story is a village nobody turns into a
Chinese mythology here. I mean, hoppen, we heard that one before.
I'm sure George Colney has played that role twice. So
far it's earned over two billion, and that's just in China.
So compare that to Inside Out two, which is the

(05:05):
second biggest animated film, that's only in one point seven
billion over the whole world. Anyway, overall it makes it's
the sixth most profitable film ever made, only ten million
behind Star Wars. The Force Awakens the fifth Force awakens
in fifth. It's in fifth, So the Force Awakens is
in fifth. Well, there's the Force Awakens in Star Wars prequent,
sequid and that at all. Here's the world in ninety seconds.

(05:28):
You don't want to trust me on a Friday. Believe me,
I'm barely here. It's this teriff thing has got me worried,
perno ricard. It's the drinks today, perno ricard, contro Campari.
All major companies are all sunk like a stone because
Donald got on the truth social and talked about two
hundred percent tariffs. So there's that. Meantime, the Germans have announced,
in fact, the the central Bank president said, look this

(05:49):
goes on, Germany's going to sink into recession. So that's
how bad that is. Thirteen past six.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
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Speaker 2 (06:05):
Donna Tella Versachi's announced overnight she's stepping down as chief
creative officer of Vasarchi. She's been there thirty years after
I stepped in up for a brother got gunned down
in Miami back in the ninety sixteen past six from
JMI Weil Hendrew kellerho welcome down Friday. We made it.
We made it to Friday.

Speaker 8 (06:21):
Monst we did.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
And at thirty two thy five hundred gain. It's it
ain't the heavy old days, is it.

Speaker 9 (06:27):
No, no, no, this is migration. We got the latest
DARTA on the comings and goings yesterday, So migration and
tourism data for January. Looking at the migration data, this
is provisional. Remember we've always got to put that caveat
on it that subjects continue to revision. But yes, to
the end of January, an annual gain of thirty two
and a half thousand people, well down on the let's

(06:49):
call it one hundred and twenty two thousand. That was
a twelve month number two January twenty four. But that trend,
it's been well noted. It's reasonably consistent. But we really
have come off the boil, haven't we. So migration arrivals,
migration departures, the net difference is the permanent long term
migration number. You've got one hundred and twenty three thousand
mipant departures in that twelve month. That's the highest on record.

(07:12):
And you can't do these numbers without noting that the
peak in October twenty three was one hundred and thirty
five and a half thousand when it was really running hot.
Let's just put some context around this bike, because you know,
I love doing that. Long term average for January years
before COVID was a net migration gain of twenty seven thousand,
So we're heading back to gains consistent with the average

(07:35):
long term population gain from migration. We always get a
breakdown a composition for the January twenty five year outside
of returning New Zealand as the overwhelming key contributor to
migration as arrivals from India or Indian citizens almost twenty
six thousand in the last twelve months.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Of course, Lation's going there next.

Speaker 9 (07:52):
Week, followed by arrivals from China and the Philippines on
a monthly basis. Bring it down to monthly provisional estimate
three thousand and six hundred seasonally, just that you get
about twenty four hundred, that number will be revised. But
you do have to make the observation, Mike, that the
downward trend I think, you know, it's definitely stalled, it's stabilizing.
I think the risk that we head into negative permanent

(08:15):
long term migration is definitely diminishing. But you're obviously going
to have I think you can vary safety and for
you've got a softening of economic support from net migration.
You know, the impacts on economic growth when compared to
when we were running those crazy totals, I mean one
hundred and twenty hundred and thirty thousand a lot less
so produced demand, less pressure on housing, tourism numbers, Mike,

(08:36):
they will yeah, look yeah but they're going they are
moving here.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
But made it's been six years.

Speaker 9 (08:43):
Well yeah it has, but you know it's mainland. Good
things take time there, Mike. Look, look the magic numbers
four million for the year. I think, what are we
ad at the moment? We're at three million, three hundred
and fifty eight thousand. It is the highest numbers as
much twenty twenty we're not there yet.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
They are spending.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
They're spending.

Speaker 9 (09:01):
Well, there's no impact seeming impact from the New Zealand
International Visitor Leve. You remember they that came in.

Speaker 10 (09:07):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yeah, it doesn't seem to be.

Speaker 9 (09:09):
It doesn't seem to be impacting people that these guys
are spending though. I mean you think about it.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
You've got the.

Speaker 9 (09:13):
US and the bricks coming in and their dollars worth
a lot more than the New Zealand pesos so and
we're also seeing a big lift in the number of
people arriving in christ Church and Queenstown before planes are
going back and then.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
It's coming into the country. Are we going to christ
Juchs and Queenstown as well? By the way, this fortunately
they've got about twenty four hours to solve their problem.
But this, this shutdown thing is the usual shambles. Yeah,
but that's fairly.

Speaker 9 (09:39):
It's a symptomatic of everything that seems to be happening
in the US at the moment, doesn't it.

Speaker 11 (09:42):
See Over the next.

Speaker 9 (09:43):
Twenty four hours, we're going to this talk of a
government US government shut down is going to rise to
a crescendo.

Speaker 11 (09:49):
Mike.

Speaker 9 (09:49):
Technically they have got to do something by the fourteenth
of March, which is that'll be today, So they need
to pass the legislation. Obviously before Monday, you can see
parts of the US government shut down. The thing we've
got to note yet, has happened before. Happened in two thousand.
I mean, it doesn't happen a lot, but it does happen.
The last time is twenty eighteen, lasted almost a month.
So Republicans need to bring a spending bill to the Senate.

(10:11):
It's already been passed in the House of Representative. This
bill could be blocked by Democrats in the House. Just
to remind it, you've got fifty three Republican seats, You've
got forty seven Democrats an independent. This bill needs sixty
votes to avoid procedural obstacles. Democrats have a counterplan to
keep the government operating till April. Early April. One Republican

(10:31):
senator has already indicated he would vote against it. Where
you're going to have the usual brinkmanship, finger pointing, more uncertainty.
Yet the interesting thing here, Mike is if it has
to go back to the House, if they can't make
a decision, they've all gone home.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
They are not there.

Speaker 9 (10:46):
So this thing has got to happen.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yeah, are otherwise there's a very good times now, wonderfulst.

Speaker 9 (10:50):
Numbers, So the Americans not enjoying the session today. The
Dow Jones is down five hundred and seventy six points.
It's one point three nine percent forty thousand, seven hundred
and seventy seven. The S and P five hundred is
now flirting with a ten percent four from the high
in February, which is a technically a correction. It's down
sixty four points, which is one point one five percent

(11:14):
five to five three five, and the Nasdaq is down
over two percent to another week session for the Nasdaq
three hundred and eighty three points seventeen thousand, two hundred
and sixty seven overnight, the forty one hundred barely changed,
It was only up one point. The Nika also had
a fairly zound points zero eight percent three six seven nine.
Oh Shanghai Composite lost point three nine percent three three

(11:37):
five eight. The Aussie's lost just under half a percent
seven seven four nine.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
The close in their sex two hundred.

Speaker 9 (11:42):
The Insects fifty lost a third of a percent forty
points twelve thy twelve hundred and nine Kiwi against the
US on the wholesale markets point five seven one oh
point nine oh seventy five against the ossie point five
two five one euro point four four o nine against
the pound eighty four point twenty five. Japanese end gold
has on to a record high due to the uncertainty

(12:03):
around the joint safe haven buying two nine hundred and
seventy eight dollars there and breakthroughit seventy dollars on the notes.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Have great WEEKKMC next week. Andrew Kelloh jomowealth, dot co,
dot m Z tasking Spotify are now claiming because there's
been this great debate about Spotify and none of the
artists ever get paid. They're claiming this morning, fifteen hundred
artists generated over a million dollars in royalties. More than
eighty percent of those artists didn't even have a song
in the top fifty. So what they're arguing is you
can make money from Spotify and not be that successful.

(12:31):
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Speaker 1 (12:38):
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Speaker 2 (12:44):
Poll out this morning, eighty five percent of investors believe
Elon's political involvement is either negative or extremely negative for
his car company. It's a Morgan Stanley Pole six twenty five.

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Speaker 2 (13:00):
So if one the season opens today in Melbourne P one,
P two Today, that's practice one and two, P three
and qualifying tomorrow the race on Sunday, lawsens all about
the place being introduced to the Australian public in the
F one world. Needs had to put up with a
usual frippery. I mean, what would you do if you
weren't a driver? What would Max do if he wasn't
a driver? What's your favorite food? Anyway? Occasionally someone with
a brain asks something like how important is this race?

(13:23):
And has it all sunk in yet?

Speaker 12 (13:25):
Starting Yeah, this is the most important year my career
and it's always going to be like that realistically. So
I thought maybe it had worn off a little bit,
but then we went testing and it's little things. It's
like the fury that has my number on it and
stuff like that around the garage.

Speaker 8 (13:37):
It just has my name or my number.

Speaker 12 (13:38):
And that stuff. It's like the little things that get
me excited. So that's been I'd say it definitely hasn't
worn off yet, but at the same time, there's just
so much that you've got to go through that for
a race weekend, really all you're thinking about is performing
in the car, and at that point I think I'll
just be focused on on the job.

Speaker 2 (13:56):
Now three separate Analyst podcast hosts to maybe their predictions
for the results for the end of the year. They've
all got Liam finishing seventh or eighth. All three have
picked Lando to win. Although I know people like Martin Brundle,
who I do have time for, he picks Max for
Stappen to win. Now, if Max for staff and wins,
that means Liam really has to do well because the
expectation on Liam is extremely high to stay extremely close

(14:20):
to Max Withstappen. So if Max is doing well, then
Liam should be doing well, and I for Lilliam's doing well,
then it's all on for you know, young and old.
By the way, I cannot recommend episode eight Elbows out
of Drive to Survive More. It's the Liam lawsome story
and they've done it absolutely brilliantly. Scandal in health hard

(14:43):
to overstate the mess that's going on there. More details
the health Minister Simming and Brown fronts in a couple
of moments after the News, which is next to their
news took said.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
B the news and the newsmakers the mic asking breakfast
with a Vita, retirement, communities life.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
You're he'd been good to hear you enjoyed elbows out.
I watched it three times back to back with the
test with Max two tenths difference, and he hasn't driven
account for seven months. He's good, Yes, he is. It's
one of the highlights of the whole series. As far
as I'm concerned, Trump's house slash office in New York
is currently being occupied by protests. I'll come back to that. He's,
of course in the Yellow Cheers room with Mark Rutter

(15:22):
today talking about the war.

Speaker 13 (15:23):
Thousands of young people are being killed a week, and
we want to see that stop. And they're not Americans,
and they're not from the Netherlands for the most part,
they're not from they're from Russia and they're from Ukraine.
But they're people, and I think everybody feels the same way.
We wanted to stop. It's also a tremendous cost to

(15:44):
the United States and to other countries, and it's something
that would have never happened if I were president, and
it makes me very angry to see that it did happen.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
But it happened, and we have to stop it.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Ruter, who once rang Holland hence the reference now runs
night as he's sucking up like everyone else.

Speaker 14 (16:02):
What's happened the last couple of weeks is really staggering.
Do Europe be ins committing through a package of eight
hundred billion defense spending the Germans know and potentially up
to a half of trillion ext in defense spending, and
then of course you has can you start me here?
The best Prime minister and others all committing to much
high defense spending.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
Richard Arnold, we got the shutdown, the scenespire. We got
so much going on, Richard Donald Shirley twenty two minutes
away from seven back here though, more bumbling in confidence
of Health in New Zealand, as a reviewer's launched into
their procurement processes got a two million dollar contract we
told you about yesterday, went to a UK based firm
NBI Healthcare Technologies. Health New Zealand claimed MBI, we're the
only company in the whole world able to do this,

(16:44):
so advertising the job wasn't necessary. Trouble was a senior
manager in Health New Zealand had links to that company.
Now the Health Minister, simming in Brown is with us morning,
good morning. This doesn't pass the pub test, does it?

Speaker 8 (16:56):
No?

Speaker 15 (16:56):
And that's why I've asked for a review of this.
I wasn't satisfied when Hell New Zealand said that what
they said around this being the only company in the
world which could do that. I've asked for a review
to sure procurement rules were being followed at the time
back in twenty twenty three when this happened, but more
importantly to make sure that this type of practice and
in procurement rules are being followed today.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
What's your gut? Is it bungling or scandal?

Speaker 15 (17:20):
I think there's two. There's two issues here. One is
where the procurement rules being followed? The second is are
they being followed today? I think on the face of it,
what you've said is right. But what I want to
know is have it and have assurances of is that
this isn't that we are following procurment rules. This is
taxpayers money, MinC. This is your listener's taxpayers money. They

(17:42):
expect value for money from every single dollar and across
every single contract, and I want to make sure that
that is what we're receiving.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
I can't work out what the real issue is here.
I mean to tell me that there is only one company.
I mean, what they were looking to do in that
contract wasn't wasn't remarkable, it wasn't brain surger. It was
just you know, to help you the flow of patients.
Better to insult me by saying this is there's only
one company on planet Earth that can do this is
bullshit and you.

Speaker 15 (18:05):
Know it's that, And that's why I've asked for a review,
Senators of that comment. I've asked for a review because ultimately,
you know, these are the type of issues that taxpayers
expect to be you know, they accept good procurement policies
to be followed. Look, there are instances where you know,
government agencies don't have choice, but ultimately they need to
go through a robust process to determine that. I've asked

(18:28):
a review to ensure that you know, taxpayers money is
being is being respected across the contracting process at Health
New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
And that's insult number one, just telling me that when
it's so blatantly not true. But also we just happen
to have somebody in the company who's associated back in Britain.
I mean, how do you explain that?

Speaker 15 (18:45):
Well, I think that's that's another part of the issue here,
and that's again why I've asked for a review of what's happened.
I'm not going to get into the particular personal issues
that I think the stuff journalists have been uncovering, but
I would just point out that New Zealand taxpayers expect
to have confidence in procurement policies. There are procurement policies

(19:05):
for a reason, that is to ensure that value for
money for every tax payer dollar is spent, and that's
what I expect from Health New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Which debtails into this Deloitte report, which hasn't got the
coverage it deserves, is this has there been sabotaged there
when Central says to the regions, we want to do this,
and they literally deliberately and overtly ignore the instructions, you
are sabotaging the system, aren't you.

Speaker 15 (19:29):
Well, I think that Deloitte report, which was released last Friday,
and you're right, hasn't had the coverage that it needs.
But Basically, it points out the failures of the last
government's reforms of health in New Zealand. They jammed twenty
one bhbs together, put a new letter head on and
said job done. Ultimately, they then fired all of the
financial controllers. They removed that local accountability. We saw a

(19:53):
huge blowout in the budget and without the financial controllers,
as the report says, the financial system was being managed
by via Excel spreadsheet, which is appalling. That's been fixed now.
But this is what we're dealing with the government is
having to get this health system organized and focused back
on the patient and focused on delivery with clear accountabilities

(20:15):
right down through that organization. It's a big job, Mike,
but that's what I'm focused on as Minister of how
focusing on delivering for the patient and making sure it's
delivering within its budget.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Appreciate you telling me you have a good week in
Simon Brown, who is the Health Minister with us this morning.
That Deloitte report which we featured from last week, seventy
seven pages, It honestly is worth reading, if only to
remind you just how incompetently run this country was, how
dangerous it became and for all of the sympathy we've
had over this ensuing period of the public servants getting

(20:45):
let go. By the time you've read that Deloitte report
and read Brian Roach's Report into the Public Service, you
will have less sympathy, believe me, for what's been going
on in the public service seventeen too.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
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Speaker 2 (21:03):
It be Mike. I've worked in the area of optimization
and methodologies for weightless minimization. This is rocket science to
most people. But we do exist in New Zealand, peep.
I don't doubt it. I don't doubt the re companies
all over the world. It exists and they run Excel spreadsheets.
No they don't, and those for Health New Zealand. To
say there's only one company, I mean it literally insults
each and every one of us.

Speaker 16 (21:22):
Fourteen to two international correspondence with ends and Eye Insurance,
Peace of mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Sidside Richard Island and warning. So we're standing by for
the Russians, are we?

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Well?

Speaker 17 (21:35):
Yes, we just wonder whether anything really is showing movement
on this or whether it's or just talk. You would
think the latter are looking at Putin's visit to the
military front lines today wearing fatigue. So all about continuing
the war seems to be the message from Putin, specifically
a criminal aid Yuri Yushikov also saying that Russia does
not want the kind of temporary ceasefire that Ukraine just

(21:56):
agreed to. Instead, I have a list of demands that
amount to total Ukrainian surandum. So this is the backdrop
as the US Special Invoice Steve Whitcoff has arrived in
Moscow now, which is saying that they do not support
the thirty day ceasefire that Ukraine just signed on to
and insisting there'll be no talk about NATO and so on.
Putin himself says he still has many reservations about the

(22:18):
American broken peace effort. He says he wants a lot
of clarification, including it appears, for the direct discussions with Trump.
Another issue is the city of Kursk, where Russian troops
are on the verge of regaining control. The White House
now says the ball is in Russia's court when it
comes to any further discussions, and it is not clear
that Russia really is ready for any serious diplomatic engagement.

(22:39):
Also unclear as the Trump role the US President has,
As you've noted, just wrapped up talks with NATO Secretary
General Mark Ruter at the White House. Trump has said
little about all of these developments.

Speaker 4 (22:51):
As people talking in Russia.

Speaker 13 (22:53):
We have representatives over there, Steve Whitcoff and others, and
in very serious discussions. As you know, Ukraine has a
greed subject to this what's happening today to a complete ceasefire,
and we hope Prussia will do the same.

Speaker 17 (23:08):
Trump's is also We're going to see whether or not
Russia's there, and if not, it will be a very
disappointing moment for the world. So yeah, this is a
pivotal point. Meantime that Trump Tower posts just been talking
about demonstrators filling the entrance to the building denouncing the
arrest of the Palestinian activist. Moment Khalil has been chipped
off to a Louisiana site without even being formally charged,

(23:31):
without shouting fight Nazis, not students protest ongoing lies.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Indeed, were they going to I mean, how many times
we have to be here? They're going to make the
is it closing down or not.

Speaker 17 (23:43):
Yeah, well, we don't know the answer. The deadline is
tomorrow night, midnight US time. That is the point when
a deal to avert a US government shut down would
have to take effect. House Republicans approved the Trump supported
six months funding measure, which now faces a Senate vote.
Republicans because have a fifty three seat majority, but they
need to get sixty votes, so that requires the support

(24:05):
from at least seven Democrats, probably eight, because there is
one Republican who have suggested that he doesn't support this.
So Democratic House Leader ha Kim Jeffrey says Democrats do
not back at either. He's what he is saying.

Speaker 18 (24:17):
The best path forward is to move a four week
spending bill that would freeze spending and allow for negotiations
to continue in a bipartisan way.

Speaker 17 (24:28):
Well, in the past, Democrats have joined Republicans to prevent
a shutdown, but this time, in the midst of the
Elon Musk sackings of government workers, it could be quite different,
says Democrats Susan Rice.

Speaker 19 (24:38):
To get Democratic votes, you need to negotiate the Democrats.
You're essentially asking him to roll over and play dead
while Elon Musk and Donald Trump rape and pillage the
federal government.

Speaker 17 (24:50):
Republicans think the Dems will cave in the coming hours
if there is a government shutdown. Of course, we already
know that Trump will blame the Democrats, who will blame
the Republicans who control all the branches of the government. Here,
of course, if this is how it plays out, it
is everyday workers who will really suffer.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
You have a good weekend. Might see next week. By
the way, just at the end of that conversation, as
regards tariffs, he's talking two hundred percent on booze this morning.
But as for Canada, Canada is going to be interested
to hear this.

Speaker 13 (25:18):
The United States can subsidi as a country for two
hundred billion dollars a year. We don't need their cars,
we don't need their energy, we don't need their lumber,
we don't need anything that they.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
That they get.

Speaker 13 (25:32):
We do it because we want to be helpful, but
it comes a point when you just can't do that.
You have to run your own country. And to be
honest with you, Canada only works as a state. We
don't need anything they have.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Honestly, if I was fording Ontario, I would literally turn
the lights out to New York right now to stick
it right up. By the way, the debt that they're
carrying has worsened in the first month of Trump's presidency,
not that he is necessarily directly responsible for that, three
eighteen billion more than the same time last year, thirty
eight percent higher the bill. The total debt, by the way,

(26:06):
it's thirty six point two trillion. The bill to pay
that just the interest on that debt each and every
month is seventy four billion dollars nine to seven.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
The make Hosking breakfast with a Vita retirement communities news
togs had been just on this.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Khalil mah Mood, who the Columbia University lovies and Cardigan
Whereas are parking themselves at Trump Towers on Fifth Avenue
currently in New York, saying freeedom, Free theom because he's
a good guy and it's not fair that he's been arrested.
Just let me give you a couple of quotes from
mister Mahmud. Zionists don't deserve to live. Her Masks were

(26:44):
right to do what they did. Sinhoa, who's the leader
of her mass, is a brave man and this was
his crowning achievement. These attacks as demonstrated on October seven,
are the path deliberations. So cool guy, excellent guy in
the sort of bloke they need in America, of course.
So that gives you a sort of a sense of
why they've probably rounded them up and stuck them in
a place and will eventually deport them because they don't

(27:07):
need people like that in America. And the fact that
they're I mean the free speech, which is what they're arguing,
the free speech. How far down that particular rabbit hole
do you want to go? Five minutes away from seven,
the in and the ouse.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
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Speaker 2 (27:27):
Now Pokemon's a big deal and something's been sold in
the Pokemon world. Pokemon is the highest grossing media franchise
by the way of all time. It's an estimated revenue
of turn in fifty seven billion. Now Neantic Niantic, the
company that makes the Pokemon Go game, is being sold
to a Saudi video game investment company. So Niantic has
sold the entire gaming division for six point one billion

(27:50):
to a company called Scopely, which is based in California
but owned by the Saudis and their Sebi Games Group.
It's a very big deal. First major gaming company plus
Pokemon time two B. So to THEI. The Saudi's own
everything now literally. So they've got liv Gold, they've got
the boxing, they've got the World Cup, they got the games.
Pokemon goes biggest mobile game launchhob of any in the

(28:11):
world back in twenty eighteen. Currently still has one hundred
and forty seven million active players worldwide. Latest figures we
have are from twenty twenty shows that it has more.
It's made more than ten and a half billion in revenue,
which brings me very nicely to the Minecraft nonsense. It's
going on at Wilworth's at the moment. What's it called
cheeseos or whatever? Hubees. So next to my desk sits

(28:33):
and don't even get me started about the hot desk
scenario of modern office work. Say these not yours, No,
And that's my point, Glenn. So next to my desk
is a person who will remain nameless, but who's a
collector of these of these what are they called cheesys hub's.
So these these Minecraft qubs. So when you go to
the supermarket at the moment at Wolworth's and you spend

(28:53):
eight hundred dollars, you get given a piece of cardboard,
and this is how ridiculous the whole thing has becount
It's literally a piece of cardboard and if you fold
the cardboard, it makes a cube. Hence it's called qubs.
And the theory is somehow you collect like thousands of
these qubs and you, well, in this case, if you're
the person next to me, you pop them on top
of the desk, and somebody like me comes along and goes,

(29:14):
what the hell is this and why don't I put
them all on the bin, to which everyone around me goes, no, no, no, no,
their qbs, And I go, what do you do with them?
Nobody knows? And so I like the idea when the
supermarkets do, like they give you a plant and you
can grow a plant. I even got into those many
grocery shop things when the kids were little. They brought
on little grocery they're all cool. Qbs is stupid. It's
just playing straight up and down stupid. It makes literally

(29:36):
no sense whatsoever. But people allegedly are spending money at
the grocery shop to collect more of these.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
My question is why the only report you need to
start your day. The my costume Breakfast with the range
rover Villa designed to intrigue and use togs dead.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Be well seven past seven. So, as we said at
the start of the show, the opening day of this
investor fest looks a bit promising. Serious players representing large
four tunes looking to invest here and get this country
back in the game. Eberdeen is a Scottish based infrastructure
fund with more than a train dollars worth of asset.
The head of Infrastructure Funds, Bill Hoffey, is in the
country and well there's Bill morning, Good morning. What's your

(30:13):
summation of day one?

Speaker 20 (30:17):
Very positive? I think quite a few investors came here
with a degree of cautious optimism and the government has
been looking to knock down some of those cautious barriers
and give people an opportunity to have some real, real
promise to invest and put their people into this country.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
I thought the Prime Minister's message that with a shelter
from the storm was a good one. Did it lend
well in your view?

Speaker 21 (30:45):
He did?

Speaker 20 (30:46):
A number of compelling reasons have been given as to
why now is the right time to come to New
Zealand for those foreign investors and foreign construction companies and
grow their business locally.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
You get enough out of day one project wise to
be tempted or do you need day two with more projects.
In other words, you need to hear more.

Speaker 20 (31:09):
It's very much a two part sessions. So they've covered
some high level projects during the first day, but there
are more to come as I understand it today, So
very much looking forward to hearing about some of the
other sectors where they've got some projects in development.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
The Second Harbor crossing is one that we're apparently looking
forward to. Does your company look to specific projects or
types of projects or any projects potentially.

Speaker 20 (31:40):
The Eberdeen Concession Infra team has about eight billion enz
globally under management in PPPs and concession infrastructure projects, so
we're very much targeting those projects which have a public
private partner ship flavor to them, So that's the kind
of projects that we are looking at. We're very much

(32:01):
interested in the Northern Corridor as well as some of
the social accommodation projects which have been signaled to be
coming out from the government.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
How aware, and this has been the great debate in
this country post COVID and post our lockdown for such
a long period of time, and the Prime Minister goes
on about it all the time. How are where are
you guys of New Zealand being open for business or
has this been a revelation to you? And it's good
to hear from your point of view.

Speaker 20 (32:28):
It's certainly good to hear. From my point of view.
Aberdeen was involved in bidding the previous round of public
private partnerships, which I think last has an investment opportunity
probably about seven years ago, so it has been very
quiet for the past six seven years. From my perspective,

(32:49):
as a green field investor into this landscape, we obviously
look and have capacity to invest globally and New Zealand
is one of those places where we can do business
if the pipeline that's right and the government is coming
forward with the right kind of projects.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
That was my next question. So you've had three or
four decent projects more come today? Do you need to
see the pipeline which is beyond project number one or
maybe two? You want to see something multi year.

Speaker 20 (33:22):
Yes, and certainly that has been signaled during the first day,
and I expect a bit more through the second day.
For companies, particularly the design and construction companies and operating
companies to come and put quality people in Australia where
maybe the local skills don't exist. It's got to be

(33:42):
more than just one project in one sector.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Good stuff, Bill, good and so I appreciate it very
much and enjoy ustay in the country. Bill Hoffey, who's
with the Eberdeen he's the head of infrastructure Funds liven
past seven scaping the people coming and going these steps
yet again a glass owt full. I suppose we aren't
leaving as quickly as we once were, although year on
year another record, it's just monthly numbers show it is slowing.
Massi University sociologist Paul Spoonley's back. Well, there's Paul, morning

(34:05):
to you.

Speaker 10 (34:06):
Yeah, good morning mate.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
When does this flush through and we get a vibe?
I mean the number is the net gain is thirty
something thousand. How long before we can go right? This
is about where we're at for now.

Speaker 10 (34:17):
Well, I would really like us to identify how fast
we're going to grow and just listening to your previous interviewee,
I think one of the things they're going to be
looking for is the continuity of skill supply. So we
need to factor in how many skilled people we need
in what sector? And he mentioned construction, which is a

(34:38):
sector which is under pressure at the moment, and we
need to put that together. You know, who do we
train on shore? Who do we bring in from offshore
is a key question in terms of the summit.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
I'm so glad you raised that because the numbers coming
in it's been consistent now for at least a year.
The big numbers each time is India, Philippines and China.
Now does that matter if the skills are okay.

Speaker 10 (35:02):
No, it doesn't matter. I think we need to do
more mic in terms of preparing them for New Zealand.
So we should do what Canada does, which is to say,
you know, my costking is going to migrate to New Zealand,
what does he need once he gets here in terms
of making sure he's got the skill set. One of
the things that migrants don't have are networks and local knowledge,

(35:24):
and we need to make sure that they've got that.
So I don't mind whether it's the government that does that,
or whether it's the sector, or whether it's the employer,
but somebody needs to do that so that we they've
got skills. We need those skills and we need to
make sure that we're grabbing those skills with both hands
and utilizing it as much as we can.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Andrew Kellerherra money Man says he doesn't think we'll get there,
but I worry about being an net exporter of people.
In other words, number of people coming into the country
is slowing, the number of people leaving is slowing, but
not as much. In other words, we're getting closer and
closer to zero. Is that an issue or not?

Speaker 10 (35:58):
Well, I don't think it is a I noticed some
of the bank economists are saying it is, but I
don't personally think it is. Mike, But the thing that
I noticed in these later stats is that we have,
for a twelve month period, had the largest number of
people migrating off shore. And I've got two questions. And

(36:19):
of course we don't have departure cards, so we only
know the numbers, the age, and where they're going to.
We don't know about their skills. But are we losing
skilled people? They're nice? You and I both know the
answer to that. And then are we also seeing unskilled
and semi skilled people leaving and going perhaps to Australia,
And therefore we're exporting part of our unemployment rate. So

(36:41):
I think there's some big economic questions which we need
to ask and answer. And I think the minister, I
mean the Minister's signal that this year she's going to
make some changes and they're all in the pipeline. But
you know, we do need that bigger picture really very.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Well, said Paul as always Professor Paul Spoonley, Massing University
is fourteen minutes past seven on Time with You on
QB's There is the usual suspects are into these things.
Their financial literacy on a scale of one to ten
as one or two at best. Mike Aricbs might take
away as a teacher. They're all designer maths kids making
cubes using simple nets, subliminal learning, fingers crossed, not a
bad point. Mike, has Kate collected all forty qbs yet, No,

(37:17):
PAULI hasn't. I haven't seen any qbs in the house,
Thank god, Mike. We collect supermarket giveaways and hand them
out to kids at Halloween. Mike Wilwas can't possibly make
any claim for the environment when adding to the landfill
with this, Junke, And so it goes fourteen past.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
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Speaker 2 (37:37):
Ab More Larification Madness with David Seymour coming up after
the news meantime seventeen pass good way to win the
week for Joseph Parker. So yesterday we were telling you
that Daniel Dubois fight was off and that was the
one that was canceled last month anyway, but in steps
the WBO sanctioning body overnight who orders Alexander Yusik to
start negotiations with Joseph Parker. So what does all this

(37:58):
mean from Duco Joe's manager today? But Higgins is well
this David, very good morning to you.

Speaker 21 (38:02):
Good morning mate.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Just give us a crash course on the power latter,
can the wto trump Paul Warren, who is Dubois manager,
and tell them what to do or not?

Speaker 21 (38:11):
Not necessarily So at the end of the day, who
Usik fights will be up to Usik, and if he
chooses to ignore order by the WBO, he'll have to
vacate the wo title will be stripped of it, which
will leave what's called a vacant title. There'll be no
title holder, and funnily enough, that's how Joseph Parker won
his first world title of Auckland twenty sixteen, and that's

(38:34):
the situation for me, is probably more likely than not.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Okay, is Warren ropable?

Speaker 21 (38:42):
Well, no, he's you know, he's an old dog and
this will have happened to many times. And frankly, Joseph's
been the number one contender WBO from Warden a year,
having beaten Zang Warren's fighter and has been interim world champion.
So Joseph has deserved this sin It's long over June,
and they might have seen it coming, that might not have,
but it is a dilemma, throws a bit of a

(39:03):
spanner in the works, so Usik will have It'll be
ultimately up to Usk where the to fight Parker? Does
he want to belt? Well? The drivers in boxing, all
the major incentives are money number one, and so I
think I, even though I'm Joseph Parker's manager, Usak fighting
Dubois does make some sense because one it's for unification,

(39:27):
well it was a unification until yesterday. But two it
makes a fortune that fills up Wembley in the English summer,
so there is a powerful incentive for U Sick to
fight Duboi. So I'm not too excited yet, but this
is very good news for Joseph Parker. There's nothing bad.
He means, Joseph right at the top, and he's been

(39:47):
ordered five times by one of sanctioned bodies, and even
if it doesn't happen, he just has to be patient
and win and one more win. I think he's right
there even if it doesn't happen next.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Because it's sort of falling to his feet, isn't it,
Because you've got Fury gone, you got Joshua nothing a
shadow of what he once was. So you said, dubois
in Parker, it aren't.

Speaker 21 (40:08):
They Yes, yes, you're you're you're right, And so part
leads fall on his feet. But part the other thing.
He steamrolled three of the most feared men on the
planet in the space of the year, being John Tay Wilder.
He was undog and gave him the chance. Then Zang
people gave him even less of a chance, more of
a bogey man. Then as Pecoli, who's never been knocked out.

(40:29):
He's a manned mountain, and he put them away consecutively.
And so that that's quite an unprecedented run against that
quality of opponent and modern history. And then if you
look at Throw's overall record. He's what I call it
young veteran like. He's got more names on his record,
big names, Joshua White, Chasaura Tack and Ruiz It goes on,

(40:50):
Wilder Zang, etc. He's got more big names than almost
anyone else put to the rest, put together at over
age thirty three in a very good space.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
All right, we'll stay in touch them. Let's see we
can get something going. David Higgins, who is Joe Parker's manager,
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the week, little piece of news and current events that's
as popular as saying lame o. Now that the Prime
Minister does in z seven between the investment conference, the

(42:23):
India trip about to unfold, and the boost a huge
boost and visa interest from wealthy foreigners, that's not a
bad week's work for a small country trying to get
its mojo back.

Speaker 22 (42:31):
Tariffs too, there's going to be til recession in America.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
The idiocy driving the ideology has been on full display.
Random numbers, multiple threats, increase costs. All that's done this
week is tank markets, decrease value, freak people out, provide uncertainty,
and generally reinforce the idea that Trump is random as
if not dangerous. Wangan is seven. That council with the
payments for meetings and dumping the food scraps is not often.
The council does two good things in a week. Liam

(42:56):
eight early days and the pressure is real, but is
as big assport gets anywhere, and he is at the
pointy end of it. Supermarket supplier costs six. You noticed
those settled looks like stability. We like stability. Housing six
affordability in a sweet spot, they tell us this week
we like sweet spots. Volunteer and nine gets another payment upgrade.

(43:18):
I mean those guys can't stop giving away money. We
like that as well. Mark Carney seven, a material improvement
on the other bloke a peace steel six. Let's wait
and see what Vlad does. But all encouraging newsers to
be welcomed in trouble times. Welcome Turnbull seven sort of
my hero of the week. You're given to bullies you
get more bullying in politics and life. Sage advice, Rod

(43:38):
Duke seven.

Speaker 8 (43:39):
I think it's about time something happened.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Yeah, other sort of hero of the week. Get your
ars into gear is what he actually said. Get your
ass into gear as in government as in life. Sage
advice Rugby changes for Can they at some point work
out the connection between the rules and the mucking around
and the size of the fanbase and go ah? Is
that what happened to the sport are The health report

(44:03):
by Deloitte eight probably the most important document that went
the most unreported. It is all you need to know,
not just about health, but about competence. Incompetence, stupidity, laziness,
and I still say sabotage. And that is the weak
copies on the website and marking the week attracted investment
bids from eighty seven percent of those attending that conference,
with black Rocks saying this is way better than any

(44:24):
road we saw, asking Mike what about company KIV Savers.
I'm with Westpac KIWI Saber is the re government New
Zealand KIV Saber investment deal. I'd be up for a
good deal. Yeah, that's what they were saying. One of
the guests on the program yesterday said exactly that the
New Zealand super Fund and yes kV saver funds nothing
stopping them investing in these sort of things. But the superfund,
the big New Zealand White super Fund, nothing stopping them

(44:44):
getting into infrastructure as well. Mike, I noticed the Aberdeen
Investment bloke said they hadn't really done anything in this
country for seven years. Does that sum up the left
and their approach to this country or what? One hundred percent?
Speaking of the left in this country, last time they
in town, they started doing a lot of morarification stuff.
We've unearthed even more. My big question to David Seymour,

(45:06):
who's with us next, is how come it's taken a
year and a half to do anything about it and
we're still discussing what should have been fixed.

Speaker 1 (45:13):
New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the mic asking
breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether better across residential, commercial,
and rural.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
News togs had been just to wrap up this today's
version of the cluster in America and globally with tariffs,
it's two hundred percent. The threat is on various booze
items coming in from the EU. To be fair, the
EU do charge fifty percent on the stuff coming out
of America, so it is retaliatory. Anyway, Rutter was there
from NATO. They had a good chat about that. That

(45:43):
seemed to go reasonably well. So the two big meetings
this week have been Martin yesterday out of Ireland and
Rutter this morning out of NATO. They seem to be
getting on reasonably well. We've got a peace steal coming
in the war. But then Trump did say that there's
nothing that Canada does that America needs, which of course
is literally not true. But the bloke who runs the
power will runs all of Ontario, but is responsible as

(46:04):
well for the power.

Speaker 5 (46:04):
Doug Fold said this, guess what inflation's going to happen.
A terrify on Canada is a tax on the American people.
We're already seeing it. With the aluminum and steel within cars.
You're going to be paying a lot more for everything
right across the board because you can't get aluminum anywhere else.
You only produce sixteen percent of your aluminum. We ship
in over sixty percent. So anything that has aluminum you're

(46:27):
going to pay more. Anything that has steel, you're going
to pay more. You're bringing over close to ten billion
dollars of aluminum in over six billion dollars of steel
in This is hurting the American people. The markets are speaking,
they're absolutely tumbling over four and a half trillion dollars.
And there's only one reason, because they want to continue
to put uncertainty out there.

Speaker 2 (46:49):
And it's a lutnik who Yes, did I call the
Australia dumpers And this was all on aluminium and steel
as well, And of course Astralia aunt dumps. They barely
export to the United States. We've got to do experts
in the United States. It is Canada, and it's China,
and Australia's right at the end of the spectrum. Anyway,
more on that with the Murray Old's later meant I'm
back here more moraification issues to deal with. I told

(47:10):
you earlier this week about the requirements around ta tyranny
for pharmacists. Now Walkland University's new invented program. This is
the way Papa talmata Ra International students are being made
to do this. It's mandatory and they will charge you five,
seven hundred and thirty dollars for the pleasure. Now the
athlete David Seymour is back with us. Very good morning.

Speaker 23 (47:30):
Hey, good morning mate.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
So we talked to Penny Simmons about this, may have
even talked to you about it in the last year
or so once it came to our attention because of
children in that particular establishment. But she said, and I
think you said at the time, they're independent, they can
do what they like, can't they.

Speaker 23 (47:43):
Well, there is an element of truth in that, and
I think a lot of the frustrations that people have,
including me, with different institutions that haven't quite got the
memo that the people changed the government is that they're
subject to the law as is ultimate lead the government.
So in the case of the University of Auckland, they
have a council, they have the ultimate say what we

(48:05):
can do is a point better people but also publicly
maker views know, and I certainly intend to be doing
that because I've had so many constituents in the EPSOM
electorate who are students and they just saying this is
not only not of interest to us, but more importantly
it's a perversion of academic freedom. This particular course is

(48:28):
quite different from other stuff that happens at the university.
Usually students can choose their own electives. There's no course
that's absolutely compulsory across the whole university, and usually professors
are free to criticize the course material. This is quite different.
It's actually a form of indoctrination because it's largely being

(48:50):
taught by people outside a particular faculty for frankly political
purposes rather than educational exactly.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Now, the difficulty is, and you violated, I mean they
take a paper off you. In other words, because you
have to do that paper, you are doing one less
paper of your choice, which is what university is all about.
Can you, though, despite what you said, literally do anything
about it.

Speaker 23 (49:14):
What we can do is appoint new council members will
be doing that. Unfortunately, I think only one comes up
this year. But we can also, I think, lead opinion,
or at least reflect the opinion that we're feeling, so
that people on the campus have the ability to say, actually,
we don't agree with this, Our government doesn't agree with this,

(49:35):
MIAMP doesn't agree with us. We should be able to
speak up and say no to it. That's part of
I know that's what you might call soft power, but
I still think it's important.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Is part of it could it. I mean one of
two things are going to happen. Either the other universities
are going to go, oh cool, we'll get into this
as well, and then we're truly stuffed. Or international students
or students generally can go look to other universities and go, well,
they don't do it. I'll go there a bit of
that about it.

Speaker 23 (50:02):
Well, Unfortunately, what I'm hearing is a lot of people
is consically in the electorate I represent and now looking
at overseas universities because they feel unable to speak up
against these things, and yet they also know it's not
the best for their future.

Speaker 15 (50:16):
I have to say.

Speaker 23 (50:16):
One of the purposes of the Treaty Principles Bill was
to define the principles of the Treaty as treating everybody
equally in this country. And the purpose of that is
to allow people to tap on the sign and you say,
you say you have to do this because of the
principles of the Treaty, No, you don't.

Speaker 21 (50:31):
Here they are.

Speaker 8 (50:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Did you read the spin Off story by Miss Smith
who sat there for most of the eighty hours.

Speaker 23 (50:39):
I did not read. I do read the Spinoff sometimes,
but usually you should.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Read it fifty take it. It's her fifty things she learned,
and she was one of the few who was there
for the whole time, along with Mary Television. And what
she got out of it, and this is a very
left leaning sort of operation. What she got out of it, though,
and I thought was really instructive, was that no one agrees.
So you can have every expert in the world that goes, no,
what David Seymore is doing is dangerous and or no,

(51:04):
what David Seymore was doing is right, So they agree
to disagree. And these are learned, studied, intelligent, articulate people.
So what you're trying to do, which is to you know,
here it is once and for all, is the right thing.
I mean, that's what came out of the hearings if
you listened to them, all.

Speaker 23 (51:20):
Yeah, And I don't want to relitigate all the politics. Obviously,
I'm disappointed that my partners and government don't want to
carry this thing on. But what it will do is
leave a line in the sand where people in the
future will be able to say, hang on. There's been
an attempt to define the principles of the treaty as
making all Dewey's equal. There haven't been any strong arguments

(51:42):
against it, and I believe that in the future, maybe me,
maybe somebody else will pick this up and we will
be a much better country when we interpret our founding
document as giving each of us equal rights.

Speaker 21 (51:54):
Right.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
I got sidetracked there by what you said. Sorry pharmacists,
which was the other thing this week with the Taitunti thing.
Eighty five percent of pharmacists the short of staff. I
read the list out on air and we wonder why
pharmacists don't come into the country. I mean, why haven't
you fixed that? By the way, a year and a
half in, why haven't you fixed it?

Speaker 23 (52:14):
Well again, I don't want to sound like we're trying
to avoid the issue, but I just want to explain
what we're doing and what the constraints are. This was
done back in June twenty twenty three. It comes into
effect on April first this year. This is these new
criteria for being a pharmacist qualified in New Zealand. Our

(52:35):
main power over the Pharmacy Council is to appoint the council.
Got I happen to be responsible for doing that. I
got a paper through from the Ministry of Health about
two months ago that said, here's all the usual suspects
that we think you should appoint. I had to look
at these names. I noticed that they'd mostly been recommended
by these various so called population agencies, the Ministry for

(52:59):
Pacific People and the Ministry for Women and TPK and
Ministry for Ethnic Affairs and so on. And I looked
at it and I thought, no, no, no, no. So
what I've done, as I've said, we're putting a hold
on the reappointments. I've put an article on pharmacy today
that basically says, if you're a pharmacist who loves pharmacy
and wants excellence in the profession, then please put your

(53:19):
name for it. And I expect to appoint five of
the eight people who were previously appointed by Labor. Will
be putting in people who've actually got their eyes on
the price of a world leading pharmacy profession that's the
best at what they do, rather than a kind of
cultural indoctrination.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Good sooner, the better, appreciate time. Have a good weekend.
David Seymour actly to seven forty.

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Speaker 2 (53:48):
AV Mike, isn't it terrifying how slow it is to
fixure this country? Terrifying is a strong word, worrying most certainly.
But I've been jollied up a bit this week, as
I mentioned at the show, with the investment conference, I
like it. I got high hopes for Luxen out of
India coming up. We've got the big boost and interest
on the visas from the wealthy foreigners who want to

(54:09):
come to this country, many of them out of America,
by the way, who are running from Trump. What the
heck has happened, Mike, to this country? Why is everything broken?
And how the hell a labor ahead? And the poles
part of the reason. First of all, I don't believe
the poles, obviously, and you never really want to pay
much attention to a sort of a midterm pole because
most people aren't fully engaged on how they'll actually vote.
But even if you do accept the numbers, never underestimate.

(54:30):
This goes to the migration conversation we're having earlier. Never
underestimate the size of the population who are more than
happy to have their bum wiped and a check delivered
to them, with no particular desire to do anything contributed
to the economy. That's a large group of the population, unfortunately,
as we saw in the last six years, and they'd
want more of that. If the Labour Party come back

(54:50):
and go, look, I'll give you a check and you
can stay in bed, and you can play Minecraft, and
you can do a bit of drinking and a bit
of smoking and maybe join a gang. Cool And that's
a lot of people. And the great sadness out of
the migration story is that many of the people who
don't like that have left, and the people who don't
mind it can't leave because they don't have enough money

(55:12):
to buy an air ticket. And that's tragically, at least
in part, is what happened to this country. Mike, I
just don't understand why Seymour isn't a lot more popular.
Talk sense. I think you makes general sense. Speaking of
people who makes sense, can I introduce you Charles Johnson.
Charles they probably call him Chuck. He's the president of
the American Aluminum Association. It's all well and good. He

(55:34):
says to want more smelting factories in the US, which
is Trump's whole resondet. So in other words, we don't
need anything from Canada. We'll build our own stuff. Cool,
let's do that. Currently, it takes eight to ten years
to build a smelter, So that's plus you need, says Chuck,
to find a power grid strong enough and willing enough
to commit twenty plus years of service for that smelter.
For every Canadian production job impacts, thirteen American jobs will

(55:57):
be impact. And this is why I don't understand that Trump.
As much as I like bits of what Trump's about,
this is just plain idiocy and ignorance. We could continue,
he said, it's all going to cost more anyway, because
everyone understands anything about tarifs understands how it's going to
cost more, or he says, says Chuck, we could continue
purchasing from Canada at the current rates, seeing as those

(56:18):
rates were what President Trump negotiated in twenty eighteen when
he described them as perfect. Don't you hate it when
the facts come back to bite you and your bum
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Speaker 2 (56:38):
Oh, for goodness sake, he said, tell them at the time,
and I'll play some of this and it's blown up Anyway,
a lot of a couple of significant moments are coming
this weekend. After eighteen years, the Homegrown Music Festival is
finishing in the Capitol and as part of that lineup,
of course, she herded there, who will play their last
ever performance, and John too Good as well us John.

Speaker 11 (56:56):
Morning, Modena, Mike, how are you very well?

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Thank you? How's this summer of Goodbye is gone?

Speaker 11 (57:02):
It's been huge. Actually, we've just got back from Australia.
Every show in Australia was sold out. I don't think
we'd have done that, and it's just been a joyous
celebration of music every night.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
And when you make a big decision like this and
then everyone goes no, no, don't go and sells out,
do you think bigger I've made the wrong decision.

Speaker 11 (57:27):
This is something we've been thinking about for a while.
I mean, I think COVID came around and it forced
us all to stop work for a bit there, and
all of a sudden I sort of looked at my
six year old nine year old and went, oh, man,
I've been working so hard to keep a roof over
these guys' heads. I'm sort of missing them. And I

(57:47):
think we all had sort of different sort of personal
and things like that. And I think, just for once
in my life when I've been eighteen, she has always
been the priority. It's all had come first before everything,
and so I just wanted to try putting my family first.

Speaker 8 (58:04):
Good.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
And so you're at peace with it, obviously.

Speaker 11 (58:07):
Absolutely, absolutely, And I've been loving it, you know, And
you know what, I don't know what I'm going to
feel like in a year and a half time. Maybe
I'll be bored out of my mind and I want
to be rocking again. But for now, that's I'm very
at peace with that decision.

Speaker 2 (58:24):
And so will it be a we have a little
something to it this weekend? Do you think that last
y ever time?

Speaker 11 (58:30):
I think so. I think even beyond it being our
last show, I think that's going to be very obvious
to people that aren't there, Like our parents aren't there anymore.
We've both and Tom, we've lost our parents in the
thirty seven year career who's always were side of stage
at every she Had Home show. So that's going to

(58:53):
be pretty pretty intense, I think. And I just think, yeah,
it might all the reality of it might hit around
that time, but the whole tour I mean it's been
going for a month and a half now, it's actually
just been business as usual. It's like we're sticklers for
perfection and we want to make sure even show is.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Great and that's all we do. Good on you, mate,
We'll look good, catch up and we'll talk again soon.
See what you're up to post the music career? But
John too good? This weekend home grind final time. Ever,
it really has been quite the story, hasn't it, Timm
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Speaker 24 (59:55):
Plastic.

Speaker 11 (01:00:02):
Was she the.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Madonna of our age?

Speaker 25 (01:00:04):
I think you're Madonna?

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Better than Madonna?

Speaker 26 (01:00:06):
Oh Madonna couldn't actually see it's never.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Helped a lot of people back in there. This is
Lady Gagar Mayhem's the album. It's her seventh main line album.
It's a return to her roots, the early days when
she truly let her freak flag fly, and don't we
all remember those days. It's a retreat to a safe zone,

(01:00:36):
inventive resurrection of an edgy approach and outside her aesthetic
that helped launch her into the pop annals as the
premier star of her generation. Although I don't have any
on at my stick, I did go to her concerts
and she came out of a chicken and it was
phenomenal and she is phenomenal. And she got whacked. Do

(01:00:58):
you remember Katie, by the way, who's bonsoring this segmud
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Speaker 1 (01:01:02):
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Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
Do you remember Cadie she got whacked on the head
of that concert?

Speaker 24 (01:01:12):
Not remember that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
I'm under details mean in this marriage, clearly? Are you
going to.

Speaker 10 (01:01:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:01:20):
Good, I'm good.

Speaker 25 (01:01:21):
Remember she got waked on the head by a chicken.

Speaker 2 (01:01:23):
No, it wasn't a chicken. She came out of the chicken.
But when she came out, it.

Speaker 24 (01:01:27):
Wasn't a chicken. But we told the kids it was
a chicken.

Speaker 8 (01:01:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
Oh, that's why I'm trying to retell the story.

Speaker 24 (01:01:34):
We had to tell out.

Speaker 27 (01:01:35):
And then I got abused on social media for taking
kids that they claim were too young and underage to
be at it. It's such a graphic, you know, risque concert.
At the time, I took a lot of grief for it,
did you, But I didn't know she was going to
come out of a giant you know what that we
said was a chicken.

Speaker 24 (01:01:54):
Kids like, what's that? What did she come out?

Speaker 25 (01:01:58):
She just came out of chicken. Let's just go with chicken.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Let's go with the chicken.

Speaker 25 (01:02:02):
Can we keep moving?

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
You know, it was a big You got to explain
this because it was a big There was big scaffolding
on the stage.

Speaker 26 (01:02:08):
God, why is it less disturbing that she's come out
of a chicken?

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
That is true, it's not a bad point. And if
the kids had been alert, the next question would have
been as why would you come out of a chicken? So,
but no one asked that question anyway. So they've got
big scaffolding on the stage and she's climbing up and
down the scaffolding and at one point she moved and
one of the crossbars came down and like smacked her
full on in the head, and I thought, this is concussion.

(01:02:36):
If this had been super Rugby, she would have been
off straight away. Concert would have been canceled and she
would have gone to the HIABN and she probably wouldn't
have come back. But she carried on because she's a trooper.

Speaker 24 (01:02:47):
She's a pro.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
That's what I took out of that, because that cost
us eight thousand, six hundred and fifty seven dollars to
take five kids to that concert. Didn't remember that. You
won't remember that, of course.

Speaker 24 (01:02:55):
And probably none of them even remember it. That's the
irony when you do amazing things.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
Really walked into the room and he said, do you
remember the such and such at Fiji? And she goes no,
And that was just another hole of.

Speaker 25 (01:03:06):
Oh, my goodness, complete my goodness. But do you remember
do you remember those qbs that you used to get
from the Oh? I remember all those?

Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (01:03:12):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Josh, one of our kids he collected. What did he
collect that we quite like? What was he into?

Speaker 7 (01:03:19):
Oh?

Speaker 24 (01:03:20):
The mighty beans?

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
Mighty beans.

Speaker 24 (01:03:23):
They weren't from the supermarket, though.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
No one had a bigger collection of mighty beans than
the little Josh.

Speaker 24 (01:03:27):
I think I've still got them. I'm keeping them for grants.

Speaker 2 (01:03:29):
And that's another thing I need to talk to you
about the crap that accumulates him. That the crap accumulation
is just next level.

Speaker 25 (01:03:38):
No, let's go, let's go bot on birds.

Speaker 22 (01:03:41):
On the other foot, though, what about the Marino Cardi
collection that's got to be bulging out, and I wear
it every day.

Speaker 24 (01:03:48):
From purchasing any more of those to.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
My my supporting New Zealand industry Marino collection, I wear
literally every day, so I get to you when you
s out of them. Now that look, I'm so misbeciety.
My sincere apologies hold debut my cruise collection on.

Speaker 22 (01:04:11):
I'm getting into fast fashion.

Speaker 26 (01:04:14):
Once you go past sixty? Do you not just have
to not change your look anymore? Can't you just settle
on something and that's it for now?

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
The age in life comes into the back.

Speaker 24 (01:04:22):
I fear that's what he's doing, Glenn. That's what worries me.

Speaker 25 (01:04:25):
That's what I'm meaning.

Speaker 24 (01:04:27):
No, it's too much.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
My friend Iddy, which is where I get some of
my clothes from, and he's into what he calls quiet luxury. Yeah,
that's it. Quiet luxury where you get this look whereby
it's just it's it is what it is. You know
what I'm saying. It doesn't have labels anymore and all
that sort of stuff, and I'm sort of I'm rocking that.

Speaker 27 (01:04:49):
And it's interesting how expensive quiet luxury turns out to
be the pan.

Speaker 25 (01:04:57):
It's costly quiet luxury. I need to get we need
to get.

Speaker 22 (01:05:00):
Actually, there's a great op shop up at Mazkana where
you guys are.

Speaker 25 (01:05:04):
You got to go down there. It's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:05:05):
Katie's a regularly do the quiet op shopping. Katie is
a regular. Katie's got a gold card at the op
shop in Madicana and.

Speaker 24 (01:05:13):
She got but I should because it is a good one.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
It's a good one through. Yeah, Tim, talk to me.
QB's at your place. Are you a collector? Have you
seen them? Do you know what we're on about?

Speaker 25 (01:05:23):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 22 (01:05:24):
I know what the business model is here. They give
you free stuff, then they charge you a display box
nine bucks.

Speaker 25 (01:05:30):
That's why they're doing it. So we've got we've got QB's.

Speaker 22 (01:05:34):
We have Actually, we've had some discussions about qbs because
it's not the QBS that's the issue. It's the it's
the packaging around the QBS that it's left all over
the house and who picks it up?

Speaker 25 (01:05:45):
Mom and dad?

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
So here QBS on your part, but let's not go
down that.

Speaker 22 (01:05:49):
Well well no, no, no, it's it's an it's an
opportunity to get them to pick up their own damn.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
Po Would you say that this is because I like
the plants they gave away, the little shops all that.
So I understood that this seems to me to be stupid.
Is it taking off in your view? Is it a thing?

Speaker 25 (01:06:06):
No, it's an absolute thing. And it's it's on the
back of minecraft. So yes.

Speaker 22 (01:06:12):
And it's the collection thing, just like with your Marino
Cardi's people like to collect stuff. That's just what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
Okay, can I I want to talk to you about
influences in Tomomi Ka Okay, so, so brace yourself for that.
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Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
Mike may be quiet elegance, however, is this is where
you're going? You might want to change the rip jeans now.
I'm wear a nice set of rip jeans this morning
and it was black. There was a pair of black
jeans this morning with no rips, or a pair of
blue jeans with rips, and I've gone blue with rips
and I'm looking really good.

Speaker 25 (01:06:55):
Mike, trust your age. You're sixty put on the jeans
without them.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
Sort them out, Katie. Tell them about age, tell them
about talking about age, Go and tell them now go
oh yeah, aging.

Speaker 27 (01:07:06):
Aging is fifty percent attitude to aging. So if you
think and talk to yourself that you're getting old eror
you finished sentences worth for my age like I'm doing
well for my age, then you aures on a cellular
level telling your body to age faster. So the key
thing you can do you don't need to fight it,
but you just need to keep thinking about your vitality
and that gives you better longevity and health span versus

(01:07:30):
life span and being chronically ill.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
So that okay.

Speaker 25 (01:07:32):
So the measure, the measure isn't your age. The measure
is my imagination and my eyes. Put the non rip
genes on.

Speaker 8 (01:07:38):
Oh no, you got to.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
You got to. You got to have a certain figure
to word and will to have you know what I mean?

Speaker 25 (01:07:45):
Oh I see, Okay, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
How it goes now, Katie, this song, we did the
tourism thing this week with the micro influencers and the
influencers and the people and all the money they're spending. Now, you,
as I tried to point out, are an influencer. Although
you don't make money from it, and you deliberately don't
make money from it, despite the many people who who
you know, broke your doorstep with offers of kindness and
financial reward. Does influencing work.

Speaker 24 (01:08:12):
Unquestionably?

Speaker 27 (01:08:14):
Young eyeballs are on social media and so you've got
to be where they are. I don't actually believe the
metrics stack up as much as they claim they do,
because how you measure it is really interesting in terms
of engagement, and is engagement you know, how do you
measure with that person actually went and bought that product
or did they just look at your ad?

Speaker 24 (01:08:31):
And the other thing that influencing. I don't think people
realize there's huge money in it.

Speaker 27 (01:08:35):
They're incredibly lucrative deals they're offering, but I find them
so transactional. They make my skin crawl because the way
they come at you is quite aggressive. You know, you
do this for us, and we'll give you X, and
it's usually a large sum of money. But what you
have to do for them is you have to run all.

Speaker 24 (01:08:51):
This content past them.

Speaker 27 (01:08:52):
You have to hijack your own Instagram with reels or whatever.

Speaker 24 (01:08:56):
You paid for a yeah, and you become kind.

Speaker 25 (01:09:00):
Of you're the performing seal you. I don't like it.
I don't the seal perform.

Speaker 27 (01:09:06):
It feels wrong. I just don't feel comfortable with it.
So so I don't. I don't like to engage in
that aspect of it. Might, however, is talking me into it,
wants me to because then he can retire because it's
very lucrative.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
How lucrative? How much? How much would you warn if
is it teens of thousands? Tens of thousands for a
single thing with a company?

Speaker 27 (01:09:28):
Yep, And if you're doing a campaign or if you're
I mean, there are different you know, you can be
an ambassador, you can be a face of a company.

Speaker 24 (01:09:34):
You can just endorse a product.

Speaker 27 (01:09:36):
I got sent a thing the other day whereby you know,
what is your fee to do x amount.

Speaker 24 (01:09:42):
Of coverage with this new product?

Speaker 27 (01:09:45):
And but but whatever it is, you have to do
this for us, And that immediately puts me off, and
so but everybody, it depends on followers and engagement all
that stuff.

Speaker 24 (01:09:54):
I mean, the people with you know, lots and.

Speaker 27 (01:09:55):
Lots of followers, they can name their price and they
usually get it, and they're making hundreds.

Speaker 24 (01:09:59):
Of thousands of dollars, just huge money.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Very important question just coming on the text Mike, just
a question. Does Kate sing the diamond fusion jingle? That's
what they're saying, Just Kate sing the diamond fusion jingle?

Speaker 24 (01:10:15):
Wow? Maybe jingles? Maybe there's more money?

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
And are you saying no? I haven't heard her no yet.

Speaker 25 (01:10:24):
Because it's jingles. It's jingles.

Speaker 22 (01:10:26):
Great Rachel Rachel sings jingles. Get into it. It's a
great time.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
Is there money in jingle singing?

Speaker 21 (01:10:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 25 (01:10:32):
There is, there is, there's a bit, there's a bit. Hey,
can I can I do a take on the lunches?
And then.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
I mean that was pretty good.

Speaker 8 (01:10:44):
Do we do that?

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
I mean that's money, that's gold right there. Sorry, we
were saying, yeah, you know, you know.

Speaker 22 (01:10:51):
The lunches, the lunches thing, the whole school lunches thing.

Speaker 25 (01:10:55):
It's just an example. It's an example of policy that
doesn't understand human behave. It's always going to be troublesome
because kids don't eat their lunch.

Speaker 22 (01:11:04):
They either don't eat their lunch even when you make it,
or they do eat almost anything. Because this week I
heard about a toddler at kindy whose mum discovered that
she had eaten eighteen glass pebbles while at kindy and
Mum only discovered this when.

Speaker 25 (01:11:20):
She was changing the napping. Oh my goodness, sorry, I
just had to turn it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
It's so true, isn't. It's not like we don't have
teens of decades of evidence about kids and lunches and
what we're doing, yet we still, all these years later,
managed to turn it into Okay, sing us out Katie
the jingles. What's your favorite gilead you recorded? Don't spend now?

Speaker 22 (01:11:42):
Oh, come on, cleaning you shall, Come on, Katie, let's
all do it together.

Speaker 25 (01:11:46):
Let's do want one, two three. Don't spend in our
cleaning you shall? Oh guys awkward?

Speaker 24 (01:11:53):
Yeah, no, you need to charge for that, tim You
don't think for free.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
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doing requests this morning, Besser, but good try and Mike.
She didn't answer the questions a lot of people saying

(01:13:10):
the same thing. There was no denial, yes or no.
Now have shot see I I think if you just
played me that and said what's Kate been up too lately.
That's moonlight jingle singing in my book all day long.
That's got her voice all over it, hasn't it. There's
no question. If I said to you, is that Amy

(01:13:31):
Schumer or Kate Hawksby, you'd go, that's Kate Hawksby all
day long.

Speaker 4 (01:13:37):
Clean shot.

Speaker 2 (01:13:41):
The more the more I hear that, more worried I
actually am. I mean not that I don't want her
to be a jingle singer, it's just she's never talked
to me about it. And then, of course, if she
turns out to be a shady jingle singer, what else
has she been doing that I don't know about. You know,
if you can go sing jingles and make a living
out of singing jingles, and where else has she been? Mike,
you're a radio influencer. Just ask your listeners who bought

(01:14:01):
the snow cannons. There was nothing. See, there's nothing in
it for me. I don't know if you went out
and bought a snow cannon, because I said I went
and bought a snow can And that's on you, not me.
I'm not making any money out of I'm not the
snow cannon business. I wish it was to be frank
because as soon as I saw the McGuire's snow cannon,
I thought to myself.

Speaker 26 (01:14:18):
You've missed the snow canon boat.

Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
I missed the snow cannon boats. Yeah, the snow cannon
boat had sailed by the time I'd got to it. Unfortunately,
Elbow I got to ask Murray about this. I'm watching
Martin of By Island yesterday in the White House with
Trump and Elban Easy, who's been called a dumper, has
not got any exemptions on tariffs, hasn't even got the
Washington yet. What's going on.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
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Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
I bought Kim Chee Sprinkles because of you. Well, a
lot of people bought Kim Chee Sprinkles because of me
and Kim Tree Sprinkles. As far as I know, as
a small company in Hamilton from memory, they're doing fantastically well,
and you will too, because once you start taking Kim
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Speaker 16 (01:15:09):
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Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
You, my friend.

Speaker 8 (01:15:17):
Yeah, good morning, Michael, good morning.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
Now listen, I'm going to play you just a little
bit of this guy. One, tell me who it is,
and two what's he saying? Listen?

Speaker 7 (01:15:27):
Maybe she might try some other Australian animals.

Speaker 8 (01:15:31):
That is Prime Minister Anthony Albaneasy talking about this boody,
half witted American animal influencer. I have no idea what
that is. But she's the woman who picked up a wombat,
dangled the poor little thing in front of this half
witted Australian who's acting like a chicken, and then puts
it down. As mama wombat comes. We're rolling across the
road going to take a leg off. I mean, it's

(01:15:52):
just stupid. I don't know what influences are.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
I no, I know. The reason I played it is
I'm worried about Elbow's health. I mean, the guy, is
he getting worse?

Speaker 8 (01:16:04):
I don't think so. He's always sad in that way.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
I mean, well, I listened to him a lot, and
he used to sound slightly annoying, and now he just
sounds fantastically annoying. And he's slurring his words increasingly and
I just wonder if there's something going on there and
he's ands he's I don't know what's good. Is this
a point of conversation among the Australian public as you
head to an election or as at that's just Elbow.

Speaker 8 (01:16:26):
I think that's just Elbow. But look, make no mistake.
I mean his delivery isn't the best, of course, And
in the same way Kevin Rudd got on people's nerves,
the same way you know, I'm the smartest man in
the room, Turnbull got on people's nerves and Scott Morrison
with that smug gren. I mean, look, it doesn't take
a whole lot to get really, really grumpy with our

(01:16:49):
political leaders. And Elbow does sound like he's mincing it,
you know, he's shoving his words, you know, through a
bloody grinder of some sort. But he's still the Prime
Minister heading into election campaign and there's not going to
be too much concern about the way he speaks because
we've got a very big election coming up and there's
lots of moving parts, is there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
Well, one of the moving parts is I watched mister
Martin of Ireland in the White House yesterday with Trump
a small island nation of five million people. And I'm
watching mister Elbin Easy, a member of Five Eyes, a
nation of twenty seven million people, not to mention orcus,
and he hasn't even got to Washington yet. What's going on?

Speaker 8 (01:17:24):
Well, there's no point God to Wasdington if no one's
going to see him.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
Why hasn't he been invited? Why hasn't someone engineered something
if Ireland there? For God's sake, Surely we've got down
the list to the point where my fellow five Eyes
member plus member of Aucus might just get an invite.

Speaker 8 (01:17:41):
Well you'd think so, but as we all know, as
the world's finding out rather quickly, the Trump White House
mark two is a very strange beast, much different from
the first time round. He's clearly unrestrained. He doesn't care
about being reelected, or perhaps he does for a third term.
We have to wait see. But look, I mean, I'm

(01:18:02):
sure Albaneze would love to be invited, because he would
love to go there and put Australia's case for special treatment.
Australia is a Five Eyes partner. Australia is spending billion,
four hundred billion dollars on these buddy submarines that may
never ever arrive. Australia's got rare earth minerals that could
be part of any negotiations. But the phone call has
not come from the White House saying please Elbow, come

(01:18:24):
on up.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
It's just so. It worries me in the sense that
from it this is gristin mill for old Dutton, isn't
I mean, this is a guy who can then go
look at Elbow. He's stuck here in Australia. He's not
on the stage, he's not doing the deals, he's not
in the room, and I think that potentially plays with people,
doesn't it.

Speaker 8 (01:18:41):
Not Really, I think Dutton is being exposed as a
bit of a wally, to be honest. I mean everybody
here is even Arthur Cinnadinus, extremely well regarded former ambassador
to Washington under Scott Morrison. He was on television in
the night saying there's no point Trump's not interested in
any on boy from Australia. There's nothing can be done

(01:19:03):
until the Trump administration settles down and stops just flailing
around like you know, like a but he drunk sailor
on Payday. There's not much point in doing anything. And
that's from a former coalition ambassador who is extremely well
regarded on both sides.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
Well, let me ask you this question then, because this
instant he said, here's I don't know if you're following this,
but Keir Starmer, to my eye, is little child of
a genius. Domestically is a dog's breakfast, but internationally he
plays the stage very well. At the moment, he's filling
a very nice gap in that European Trump thing with
the war. So he hasn't responded tariff wise, and he's
keeping his powder dry. Europe's gone nuts, is Albanese he's

(01:19:41):
smart not to reply in tariffs and other words retaliatory
tariffs or is he playing it smart like Starma.

Speaker 8 (01:19:48):
I think it's the latter. And Albiniz he's made the case.
I can think of three occasions he's been asked this
and he says, no, There'll be no retalient tariffs from Australia.
We hold all the cards here. I mean, Donald Trump
can whack twenty five percent tariffs on Australian a steel
and aluminium, it doesn't really matter. It's zero point two

(01:20:10):
of one percent of exports that Australia puts out every year.
Six hundred and fifty billion dollars of exports. So that's
only small beer really, And I mean, why do you
want to go poking the bear again. There's no point.
Australia is a small player, I mean, and to be honest,
I mean, America's isn't the biggest training partner. Australia has

(01:20:31):
interesting this week for me. The Westpac boss over here said, listen,
don't worry about Washington. Pivot and look north. There's Indonesia
on our northern doorstep two odd maybe million people. They
all need to eat, they all need to be clothed,
they all need stuff that Australia can supply. Don't fret
about Washington. Look to diversify.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
Yeah, the diversification I g has been around for ages.
I take on this tear a plot, the caravan thing.
Remember when you and I were talking and I'd seen
that article on television with the Daily Teller whatever the
crime reporter was. He said, it's probably a drug dealer
looking to stitch up a bit of sentence. And that
turns out the scandal seems to be how they claim
they knew from day one, Yet nobody's they didn't want

(01:21:12):
to utter those words. Publicly.

Speaker 8 (01:21:14):
That's exactly what it looks like, isn't it. I mean,
who knew what when? Well, I mean, that's all very murky,
but it's emerged that well it's alleged, I shouldn't say emerge.
It's alleged that there's a thirty five year old alleged
drug dealer here jump bail skipped away on a boat overseas.
He set up this scheme, this very elaborate scheme, in
the hope that he could then provide information to federal police,

(01:21:38):
to New South Wales police and yet a reduced sentence.
Who he came home. He's apparently living in Turkey these days.
He's a former gym and childcare center owner who dabbled
in drug dealing. Anyway, the police of the authority is
out saying too much about it. But the Telegraph again,
the Murdock press is all over this this morning and

(01:21:58):
just remains me seeing how get this feller back if
there's any truth in it. But you know, I mean
the whole caravan thing. Look, it was a dead old
caravan that explosives couldn't have gone off they were so old,
and there was no detonator and drawn and crayon or
here's a synagogue. I mean, please, it's just it's stupid, honestly.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
How about Melbourne this weekend? A four hundred and fifty
thousand people over the.

Speaker 8 (01:22:24):
Weekend, total sell out, total sell out? And why not?
It's the first race of the season and gee, where's
it's a spectacle. Have you ever been to one of these?

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
I see, here's the thing, Murray, here's my thing. I'm
a massive IF one fan, and yet I've never been
to an F one event. And because I don't want to,
because you because you cannot. You can get F one
TV and you can get on board every single car
and you can have the telemetry, you can have the
team radio at Albert Park. You can watch twenty cars

(01:22:55):
go real and then wait a minute and a half
while that happens.

Speaker 8 (01:22:59):
Again, it's a pretty big weekend. I've been to two
of them down there as a corporate, as a corporate.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
Bo See, I don't hang out in those circles, you see, Murray.
I just get the I just get the GA ticket.
We're not all in the in the paddock club with
you guys and your champago.

Speaker 8 (01:23:13):
They are all sold out. They are sold out. That
the whole weekend sold out. Why not? You've got ten teams,
two Australians and a key. We you got Oscar Piastre
from McLaren. You've got Jack Dowan, the son of mc
Mick Dowon. He's with Alphine and of course Liam Lawson
in Red Book. I mean that's just me the three
Anzac drivers.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
A bloody great indeed. All right mate, you go, well,
we'll catch up an extron as always. Murray olds at
eight forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
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Speaker 2 (01:23:45):
At b twelve to nine. Come on, Mike, you need
to experience the Monaco GP before you before you go, Drew.
I everyone says that, I think the reality around the
Monaco GP is that it's Monaco that you go to.
The star of that show is Monaco, not the race.
The races are bust. It's the streets are too small,
the cars are too big and unless it rains and

(01:24:05):
everyone from would you like to go to if I
had to go, it's a very good question, gwinn. If
I had to, I'd go Silverstone, I'd go to the
British Corn Prix. I think if I can go to
the British Corn Prix and.

Speaker 26 (01:24:15):
The and you won't see anything because it'll be raining.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
That's its downside. So if you want to go for sunshine,
I wouldn't go to any of the American races. I
might go to Japan because the Japanese track is the
best track in the world. But I'd probably still go
to Silverstone because of the history and if you've got
a fine day in June July, there's something magical about
Silverstone or Immola. Actually no, in the morenything about it,
more I go to Wimler. I think I'll go to Wimler. Mike,

(01:24:40):
how stupid can you be?

Speaker 25 (01:24:41):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
Pretty stupid at times. But thanks for asking letting David
Symore say there are no arguments that stand against Principal's
treaty Bill. I've listened intently to submissions live and they've
been absolutely overwhelming. No, no, no, you missed his point. Maybe
you're the one who's stupid, mate. So the point he
was trying to make was that there was, or the
point I was trying to make is there's a lot

(01:25:03):
of back and forth. Yes, the heaps of people hated
on the bill, of course there were, but what my
point was, and he was agreeing with, is you had
very articulate people hating on the bill, but you had
equally articulate people saying the bill's a good thing. So
in totality, what you got out of it was a stablemate.
So for every brilliant, articulate person who said this is rubbish,

(01:25:23):
I can find you an articulate, brilliant person who said
it's good. Therefore it's a draw. Therefore what Seymour was
trying to do actually makes perfect sense. Night Away from Nine.

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the end of Maggots and Becketts, see I mean just that,
the Hamilton Strait, Maggots Becketts. I mean, come on, you
get the real sense of speed and grip that you
don't get on television. I'm sure that part's true. I'm
sure if you get in the right part of the
track and that's what you focus on, it's all go.
Spa Mike is by far the best track. Yep, No,

(01:26:45):
I mean no, you're right, Yes, it's a great track
that bet. And I can't remember the straight where you
come down before you go up the hill, the dip
in there that's famous, the famous straight. I can't remember anyway,
So yeah, that would be in the top for Imla Silverstone.
Probably Suzuka Spa, that Dutch thing. I quite like, that's weird.

(01:27:08):
That's a weird little trick though. But it's got camber
and slopes and it's by the sea and it's all
sandy and that's quite fun. But anyway, a lot of
orange smoke. Five minutes away from nine.

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Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
Now out of the yellow cheers. Meeting this morning with Ruta,
Mister Rutter of NATO formerly Holland, speaking of the Dutch Gromponi.
They talked about that, They talked about NATO, they talked
about the war. What they didn't took well they did,
as it turns out, what about Greenland was a.

Speaker 4 (01:27:38):
Good election for us.

Speaker 13 (01:27:39):
As you know, it was not a referendum, it wouldn't
be called that.

Speaker 4 (01:27:44):
It was an individual election.

Speaker 13 (01:27:45):
But the person that did the best is a very
good person as far as we're concerned.

Speaker 4 (01:27:50):
And we have to have protection.

Speaker 13 (01:27:52):
So we're going to have to make a deal on that,
and Denmark is not able to do that. You know,
Denmark's very far away and really has nothing to do.
What happens a boat landed there two hundred years ago
or something, and they say they have.

Speaker 4 (01:28:06):
Rights to it. I don't know if that's true. I
don't think it is actually, But we've.

Speaker 13 (01:28:10):
Been dealing with Denmark, we've been dealing with Greenland, and
we have to do it. We really needed for national security,
and we have quite a few soldiers and maybe you'll
see more and more soldiers go there. I don't know
what do you think about that, peet, So don't answer
to that piece.

Speaker 4 (01:28:27):
Don't answer that click.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
He literally is mental, isn't me. So what he's referring
to is the people who won the election, as I
told you on the program yesterday, are the Conservatives. So
that's what he's referring to as being a good win
for him. They're slow paced in terms of some sort
of independence. But what I also told you on the program,
of the six major parties, every single one of them
wants nothing to do with America. So this idea that

(01:28:50):
somehow they've won the election and he can park some
soldiers there and he's not really sure about Denmark, and
that's a couple hundred years ago, and what the hell
does history matter anyway? For goodness, So no one's actually
in Greenland remotely interested in America. They are interested in
independence from Denmark, not to suddenly become co dependent or

(01:29:11):
entirely dependent on America.

Speaker 26 (01:29:14):
Sorry, you should look up a bit about the Icebreakers.
That's even more random.

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
Sorry to inject too many facts into the conversation. Warriors Tonight,
what do we reckon? Easy? Easy and the f one?
So anyway, whatever you do this weekend, you have fun
and we'll see you on Monday. From six Happy Days

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
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