Full Show Podcast: 15 April 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Bolling and Welcome Today. Our new Golden Visa idea seems
to be a smash hit Sky TV Did that satellite
switch overnight? Did it work? Nick Mowbray of Zuru Toys
is in for a word on being smashed by Trump
AND's tariffs. Jeremy Piven of Entourage and mister Selfridge Fame,
he's in after eight. Casminfield in front Rod Liddle has
a word from the Mighty UK for us asking of
the Tuesday seven past six. I can tell you as

(00:32):
we sit here on the school holidays, one of life's
blessings has been five kids. What you learn with five kids,
apart from the stress and cost, of course, is if
you're lucky, you get a good insight into the country's
education system. The Education Minister, by the way, is with
us after seven o'clock, which is why that private school
survey was so interesting that came out last week. As
more and more people, it seems, line up to access

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independent education, I can give you my knowledge as to
whether it works or not. Education, by its very nature
has a snobbish as to it. Names count the same
way neighborhoods count. That's why zones both work and don't work.
A zone has prestige because of a school's reputation. A
school's reputation can affect materially the average price of a house.
Grammar zones, of course, are famous. With our five, we

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did it all primary, intermediate, secondary, single sex, co ed, private, public, integrated.
There isn't a version of the school system we didn't
dabble in. So here's what I know. Private education gives
you choice. If a kid is gifted or has an
interest in anything outside the mainstream, private can give you
access to that. Money buys you attention. There is a silent,

(01:36):
but nevertheless regal expectation around the interchange between you paying
a lot of money and the school delivering for your child.
But in our case, private didn't work well for one
of them, it worked brilliantly for another. I think our
best school was probably public but integrated, but that I
think was about the specific school, not the system per se,
and your child has everything to do with it. Our

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kids are not plug and play A big bill and
a reputation does not guarantee your child as bright or
dedicated or determined or successful, the same way a brilliant
cait I Reckon can excel anywhere. Often a school choice
is as much about a parent as it is about
the child, which is sad but common. A good teacher
is gold no matter where they are. Good parenting makes
more difference than any school. And money, as is so

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often the case in life, buys your choice, but not
necessarily the outcome you demand because of it. But generally speaking,
no matter where you went, and here's the good news,
it tends to work out fine in the end anyway.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
News of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Constans back in the White House with guests this morning.
Before he got there it is usually air Force sort
of meand around the various issues, including the war he
promised to end on day one.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
The chapels, the churches, the spirals, all of the things
that you add in Ukraine were among.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
The most beautiful anywhere in the world.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
The loss of them a notchdown.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
And blown up into a million pieces. But most importantly,
opinions of people dead that shouldn't be.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
Dead personally, the reason the war is still going is
because he got soid tracked by the golf.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
It's one of my favorite shows ever. The Masters is,
to me maybe my favorite sporting show.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
Great athletes under.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
Tremendous pressure, but unless you're a golfer, you don't understand it.
It's one hundreds of an inch makes a difference between
a great shot and a horrible shot.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Also not really a show. Back at the office, he
still hadn't finished waxing about the war. I'm not sure
if you realized this, but if he had been around,
none of this would have happened.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
If Biden were competent, and if Zelenski were competent. I
don't know that he is.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
We had a rough.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Session with this guy over the year. He just kept
asking for more and more. I went four years and
Putin wouldn't even bring it up. And as soon as
the election was rigged, that war started.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Anyway, He's got the hit of l sell the door
in for a chat about security in boulders as this.

Speaker 5 (03:52):
Morning, ninety nine percent.

Speaker 6 (03:54):
Why are those numbers not in the media, Well, they
get out with the fake news, you know, like CNN
here doesn't want to put them out because they don't
like they don't like putting out good numbers.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
They don't like putting out because I think they hate
our country.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Actually, isn't that a great question?

Speaker 3 (04:08):
Why doesn't immediate Why don't they put out numbers?

Speaker 2 (04:11):
Then in Britain we've got Birmingham as in the rubbish
strikes still light hiper. In fact, the lightest off has
been rejected.

Speaker 7 (04:16):
This is now a public health concern. Even when all
of this rubbish is clear, there is still going to
be an issue with rodents, especially with rats. So if
they're not able to feast on the rotting rubbish may
then start going into people's property.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
And then we come to the blue women who went
up to space and came back down again. It's Jeff's rocket,
of course. And as missus went for the ride, I don't.

Speaker 8 (04:40):
I can't put it into words, but like I looked
out the window and we got to see the moon.

Speaker 9 (04:45):
It was pink, because pink full moon.

Speaker 8 (04:47):
It wasn't pink, but it was almost full and Earth looked.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
So it was so quiet.

Speaker 10 (04:54):
It was just quiet.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Oh my god. Finally spum donation troubles and then Netherlands
at least eighty five donors are father more than twenty
five children each after fertility clinics. They've been illegally using
their batches multiple times, allowing them to donate over and
over and over again. Is that illegal, Yes, it's illegal.
They've brought in a law in nineteen ninety two so
that they are going to have to round all these
people up. They've told them, can you please come forward,

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we need to check you for mental or physical defects.
That's it's a recall that's going They go, well, it's
news of the world. In ninety second. Singapore, they don't
see a lot of growth this year because of the tariffs.
They're going zero to two percent. They're readjusted that yesterday
downgraded the GDP forecast from one to three down to
zero two two. So have Singapore ant grind nobody's growing
twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
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Speaker 4 (05:44):
News talks it be.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
New York Fed survey out this morning Americans freaking out
about unemployment. Are the stock market inflation generally, the probability
that unemployments are going to go higher this year's now
searched to forty four percent. That's up four point six
percent highest level since April of twenty twenty. Who can
blame them? Fifteen passing out from jmwll Pandre Kellerherd Mourning.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
Very good morning, Mike.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Now these numbers for the New Zealand economy I found
interesting but also slightly worrying. Should I be worried?

Speaker 11 (06:16):
Well, you've got to start to think, because there is
actually you just referred to this when you're talking about Singapore.
There's a bit of a theme going on at the moment,
that is, how is this potential global economic slowdown going
to impact on us here in little old New Zealand,
in particular this sort of widely anticipated twenty twenty five
local economic recovery, because it was always looking like a

(06:38):
sort of a mild recovery, so.

Speaker 4 (06:40):
Potentially a little fragile perhaps.

Speaker 11 (06:42):
So I don't want to jinx at Mike, but we've
got to ponder at the moment whether or not that
left is vulnerable.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
So two bits of data.

Speaker 11 (06:49):
Yesterday, Yeah, that give us a little insight. So the
services sector, this is business in New Zealand. Ben's ed
performance of services still a little.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
Soft, Micer.

Speaker 11 (06:58):
The index printed at forty nine point one, so still
under fifty. Still in contractionary territory it was very, very
slightly higher than February, is zero point one lift, but
still a fair way below the long term average at
fifty three, so sort of indicating there's a little bit
of lack of demand activity. Sales forty seven point four,

(07:19):
so that's weak, little ray of light in new orders,
news was just over fifty to fifty point eight, so
mildly expansionary. And employment was also just over fifty to
fifty point two, but not sort of wildly convincing.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Really is it last Friday?

Speaker 11 (07:34):
Manufacturing it's fifty three point two, bit more optimistic. Put
them together in the composite index and look at still
suggesting a modest economic recovery. Michael, would be really good
to see a lift in that services sector because look
the suggestions are at the moment that I think, you know,
your recovery is looking a little bit fragile and is
not frothy spending, Mike.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
That was also released yesterday from Stats to New Zealand.
This is for March. This series a little bit disappointing.

Speaker 11 (08:01):
A retail spending fell zero point eight percent in March,
which suggests we still aren't feeling very confident with our
dollars has said weaker than expected annual change minus one
point six, so we're spending less.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
Than we were last year.

Speaker 11 (08:14):
The weakness evident or sort of widespread across all the
discretionary categories are durable items, things that stuff like fridges
down on US three percent, so we're not buying fridges.
And the thing also, Mike, is that fuel prices fell
over month, so over the month of March, so you
would normally expect that to give a little lift to
other categories. Now, logic suggests we should still expect to

(08:36):
see a lift in spending over the rest of the year,
as though mortgage rate falls feed through into the household budgets.
But the world, make it is, the world is looking
like a pretty risky place at the moment, and that
could still dent confidence.

Speaker 6 (08:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Good, Now there we come to migration. I like the
fact that the Americans seem to be madly in love
with as tourism wise at the moment. What about migration?
What do we get?

Speaker 12 (08:56):
So?

Speaker 11 (08:57):
Yeah, migration runs out yesterday for February. So if you're
looking for some that has gone up, as you said,
yes in a positive sense.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
And not inflational prices.

Speaker 11 (09:04):
Feb numbers have had a little surge just over seventeen
thousand arrivals six thousand turn departures, which gives US net
monthly gain of around eighty eight hundred. Seasonally adjusted does
drop down to five thousand, four hundred and thirty, but
that is the biggest monthly number since December twenty twenty three.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
So what's going on now?

Speaker 11 (09:23):
Before we get all excited that the migration surge is
sort of back, you got to cool your jets little
on this.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
Dangerous to read too much into.

Speaker 11 (09:30):
These numbers because they do get continual revised. Also, February
is the start of the academic year, and one in
three arrivals we're on student visas. But I suppose might
the positive thing about that is it could imply the
international student sector of station a bit of recovery, which
is good. It's a good money earner. Annual net migration
thirty three thousand left from January, but still well down

(09:51):
on twenty three and that first over twenty four. Yeah,
those tourism numbers might annual visit arrivals are a little
bit lower if you look at on the yearly number
than the year for feb twenty four, But again there's
a bit.

Speaker 4 (10:03):
Of timing around February and Chinese New Year.

Speaker 11 (10:05):
But yes, the American visitors are lifting, so a record
number of visitors in the twelve months from the US
now the second biggest source of visitor arrivals behind Australia.
So at the moment the Americans are still coming. We'll
have to see how that pans over the year.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
They won't we we will.

Speaker 4 (10:23):
What are the numbers, Well, actually not in a bad
place this morning.

Speaker 11 (10:27):
We're all sort of going to spend the week staring
for messages and staring at Trump's social But at the
moment market's reasonably settled. The dal Jones up three hundred
and fifty three points forty thousand, five hundred and sixty four.
That's about point nine percent s and P five hundred
up just under one percent five four one three in
the nawstack up three coars a percent sixteen eight hundred

(10:47):
and fifty five or good good night as well over
in Europe two percent gain in the foot see one
hundred eight one three four one point one eight percent
gain in the Nick three three nine eighty two. The
number there the Shanghaik compst game three cords of percent
three two sixty two. The Aussis yesterday gained one point
three four percent on the ASEX two hundred seven seven

(11:07):
four eight to close there, and the ENZ next fifty
gained three cores of percent eighty eight points twelve one
hundred and seven key we dollar mic on fire point
five eight seven four against the US. The US is
weak and that's pushing Kiwi up point nine two nine
one against the ossie point five one eight four euro
point four four five nine against the pound.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
Japanese end eighty four point eight gold.

Speaker 11 (11:31):
Very strong, three thousand, two hundred and thirteen dollars in
brent crud sixty four dollars and thirty six cents see tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Andrew kellaher jomowealth dot co, dot m Z, pascix rates
starting to move on your mortgage A and Z six
month rate drops by forty basis points there one years
gone down by thirty basis points eighteen month. You can
do four nine nine squirre'll reckon four point five before
you know it. I tend to agree. I think four
to five is going to be where it settles. Because
kbu Brank is saying a cash rate of two point

(11:58):
five ASB two point seventy five, so there's more room
to grow there. Interestingly, I note yesterday Westpac have temporarily
stopped accepting new loan applications because of demand. So that's
an encouraging science. Six twenty one at New George. There'd be.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
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Speaker 2 (12:23):
B Another interesting poll out of Australia or cruntry through
some numbers this morning are semiconductors is what they're allegedly
standing by for today from Trump. The more this goes on,
the more mental they look, as far as I can
work out. Meantime, Sony have announced this morning they're putting
the price of the PlayStation five up in Europe and
Australia and you guessed it New Zealand. And they're doing

(12:46):
this because of a challenging economic environment. They've made a
quote unquote tough decision against the backdrop of a challenging
economic environment, including high inflation and fluctuating exchange rates. So
faced with that, what else would you do but try
and pass on the cost to some poor sucker who's
going to pay that. So if you're going out and

(13:06):
thinking about your PlayStation five, it's suddenly gone up for
no other reason than they're a bit stressed financially, so
you can pay for it.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
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your flu Vaccination.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Tay back to Jeff Bezos and his Blue Origin, up
and back this time?

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Is it?

Speaker 13 (13:23):
Well?

Speaker 2 (13:23):
I'm sure you will aware they had a bunch of
ladies on board switch to onboard helium.

Speaker 5 (13:29):
Good luck and godspe you ladies.

Speaker 14 (13:32):
Ten nine eight seven, six five four commanded five two
one ignition.

Speaker 15 (13:48):
Left up.

Speaker 14 (13:50):
New Shepherd has cleared the tower.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Sanchez, Lauren, Katie Perry, filmmaker Kerry and Flynn. Gail King.
She's Oprah was there by the way, on the ground,
crying the whole time. So the whole thing was pathetic.
Jeff Bezos when they landed, he fell over because it
lands in the desert, and he tripped over and fell
over an Oprah's opress crying. Anyway. Lauren, who set to

(14:15):
marry Jeff this European summer, spoke very well of it.
Gail King said it was an honor. Katy Perry was
Katy Perry.

Speaker 8 (14:21):
I feel super connected to love, so connected to love.
I think this experience has shown me you never know
how much love is inside of you, like how much
love you have to give, and how loved you are
until the day you launch.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
If I was Jeff Ibigang, is that it is that
all you got I sent you up on the mad
Laty rocket, and all your gain.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
I got you love.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
I feel anyway, I'm not sure they advanced the cause
of women kind there, but maybe they picked the wrong women,
because I know some women who would have had a
better time than that. Anyway. Later on, speaking of famous people,
Jeremy Piven is with us on the program that's after
eight meantime. News is next. You're on the my Casking Breakfast.

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Speaker 2 (15:15):
You're more on the PlayStation five. Mike sounds like Sony's
taking lessons from the New Zealand Local Council. And I
thought we were over all of that, that whole look
and it's a bit difficult, and we're a bit stressed,
and it's all a bit yucky. So you can suckers
can pay for it. I thought we'd done with that,
but clearly not. Maybe Michael Will without PlayStation five would
be a better place, possibly so, But I think it's
one of those things that they know it, hence they've
tried it on or are trying it on. It's like coffee.

(15:37):
You want to moan all day long about the price
of coffee and the price of chocolate, but you will
still pay it, and you know it. Twenty three to
seven tire of time, of course, and the war a
lot to be thinking about in Europe at the moment,
So Catherine Field and France for us in a couple
of moments time meantime. Back here, Auckland Council have approved
the next steps for flood affected land. By the end
of this year, apparently more than twelve hundred high risk

(15:59):
combs will have been purchased the bill of three hundred
and fifty two million dollars. Large amount of land is
going to be retained for flood resilience, some safer areas
could be sold for development. The Oakland Council's Policy and
Planning Committee Chair Richard Hills is with us on this
Richard Morning to you good morning mate. Now for the
rest of the country not to bore them witless. This
comes out of the storm a couple of years ago.
Why is it taken so long to get here?

Speaker 15 (16:21):
First of all, it took us quite a while to
negotiate with the last government to get a deal, and
then it was we had most of last year that
people could apply to be categorized, and then unfortunately every
single house needed an individual assessment to assess whether it
needed to be purchased or not. So that's engineering flood,
you know. I think about three and a half thousand

(16:41):
people put themselves forward and we're going to end up
with about twelve hundred properties that are a resk to life.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
So would you argue you've done as well as you can.

Speaker 15 (16:54):
No, Habby, I would have loved it to be faster.
But a lot of people also put themselves in quite late.
I mean, it's pretty hard for people to decide whether
they want to leave the home they might have lived
in their whole lives or for a very long time,
and they're starting to see their neighbors being brought out
and thinking, okay, I'm going to put myself into So

(17:14):
it has taken it some time but we're hopefully moving.

Speaker 17 (17:17):
Forward this year.

Speaker 15 (17:18):
A lot of people are happy that they're able to
purchase the house.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
When it comes to flood resilience, are you only looking
at the land that got whacked by the storm, or
are you're thinking more broadly afield what could happen climatically
over the next dozen years or so, and thinking, you know,
along those lines.

Speaker 15 (17:35):
Yeah, so we do do that anyway. So there are
some projects before the storms, such as in Northcote where
we removed a bunch of houses and removed the pipes
and roads and made sort of a river through Northcote,
which actually fared well during the floods. So we're doing
that in conjunction with this work. So there with twelve
hundred properties, we want to make them safe. We will

(17:56):
look to see if we can sell a big chunk
back to the market if we can make them safe.
So you've got a house on a slab at the
bottom of the section. You may say, you may say
we can build on stilts at the top of the
section and sell it back to the market, but a
lot of it will be used for.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Sell You'll be trying to sell me something on stilts.

Speaker 15 (18:14):
Not still, you know, piles as opposed to sorry not.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Stilt, Yes, but you're not in real estate, Richard shous
stick to the council. And what have you learnt out
of all of this in people's dealings? I mean I
followed with a great deal of interest out West Auckland.
You know, the communities out there, and they think we've
lived here for it, you know, the emotion around it
and stuff like that. What have you learned at of all?

Speaker 15 (18:33):
Oh, look, it's really hard and it's not like the
Hawk's Bay as time, when where you might be able
to see from a helicopter where the issues were. In Auckland,
you might have two houses the stuffed next to two
houses that are fine. So there are areas like Milford
where you've got one hundred and forty you know big,
you know, two meters of water went through some of
those homes, people climbing on their roofs. I think a

(18:54):
lot of Auckland don't know what happened to the people
who were hit the hardest. So it's quite quite jarring
for people. Also, it's going to be a long row.
People are going to find it hard seeing houses removed
from the street they live on. But hopefully Over time,
we'll be able to work with the community better to
understand where flooding is and going forward, if we get

(19:14):
the government legislation changes, will be able to change our
planning rules to ensure less of this happens in the future.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Good stuff, rich appreciate it. Richard Hills as an Auckland
City Council The Golden Visa, I knew it was, and
I'm so pleased it's been proved to be true. Was
a good idea, and not only is it a good idea,
it looks to be a smash hit. More on that
late nineteen two.

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Speaker 18 (20:50):
War switch to onboard Healien.

Speaker 3 (20:54):
Listen, when you start a war, you're going to know
that you can win the war. You don't start a
war against nobody that's twenty times your size and then
hope that people give you some missiles.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
I don't know how long he can keep saying that,
giving a you city and fix it in day one,
and it seems no closer to day than day one. Anyway,
he's more emphasized or interested in the tariff's next cab
off the rank along with semiconductors of P to B pharmaceuticals.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Pharmaceuticals we're going to do have We don't make our
own drugs, our own pharmaceuticals.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
We don't make our own drugs anymore.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
The drug companies are in Ireland and they're in lots
of other places China, and all I.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
Have to do is impose a tariff.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
The more the faster they move in, the higher the
tariff is very it's inversely proportional.

Speaker 5 (21:41):
The higher the tariff, the faster they come. And yeah,
we're going to be doing that.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
That's going to be like we have on cars.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
We have, as you know, twenty five percent tariff on cars.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
International correspondence with ends and eye insurance. Peace of mind
for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
We think he believes that even though there's hard of hunts.
Do you think, is that why for moving out of
Marinello into Alabama?

Speaker 19 (22:03):
Is it?

Speaker 5 (22:04):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (22:04):
They're not, that's right, Catherine. How are you doing?

Speaker 9 (22:07):
I'm fine, Thank you?

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Meg?

Speaker 9 (22:09):
What about yourself?

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Well, I mean, I'm just I mean, I'm fantastic obviously,
but but but I mean, you sit there in Europe
and you've got this idiot talking about this then, and
then where are you guys at with your tariffs and
who's hit and who isn't and what's next and whether
anybody knows what's going on?

Speaker 9 (22:24):
Oh? Isn't it just a roller coaster?

Speaker 19 (22:26):
You know?

Speaker 9 (22:26):
You wake up every morning you think, okay, what are
we going to have to deal with today? But when
it comes to tarif's. Yes, there was that sort of
sigh of relief last week when everything was put on
a ninety day pause and everyone started knowing about the
difference between the twenty percent tariff and ten percent tariff.
But the message that came through, and it wasn't just
from President Macroma here in Paris but also across Europe

(22:49):
was you know, don't breathe the sigh of relief just yet.
There's a long way to go. It could all change overnight.
And one of the big things that they're saying, you know,
is and then the big concer concern is what is
China going to do with all these products that are
coming off its assembly lines that won't be going to
the United States. So in particular, they're really concerned that

(23:10):
Europe's going to see a lot of products has been
dumped on its markets. The products we're kind of talking about,
aluminiums solar panels, vehicle parts, electrical parts, these things that
could so easily creep into the European market and very
quickly at the same time, Mike, really cause an upset

(23:31):
to economies in Europe that are already a bit shaky
at the best of times.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Exactly by the way Germany, So just update me on
this because post the election, it's seen they're all set
to go, we'll have a talk, we'll all get on together,
will form a government. Then it sort of fell apart.
Then last week, I think it was last week, they
had a deal allegedly. Are they up and running? Are
they in business yet?

Speaker 9 (23:51):
It looks as though they may be up in business first.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
Week of May.

Speaker 9 (23:55):
The reason why it always so quiet was, believe it
or not, Mike, they did it all behind closes and
there were no leaks, no one knew what was going on,
and they suddenly turned around and said, yes, we've got
a deal. It's got to go to the party members,
both of the chancellor, the incumbent chancellor his SPD party

(24:15):
has got to vote on it, and the Conservatives they've
got to vote on it as well. But it looks
pretty much as though come about the sixth of May
Matz will become the chancellor. He's already started talking about
what he's going to do when he takes office. And
this is where we've seen some big changes, Mike, And
the biggest one really is that in the last couple

(24:36):
of days he said that he will when his chancellor
organize that Germany delivers tourists cruise missiles to Ukraine. These
missiles can be integrated into the Ukrainian Air Force, they
can be used against certain targets. Now you know the
idea that Germany would get involved with delivering these types

(24:57):
of highly developed, highly your infrastructure, this type of weapon
that is way beyond what the French and the Brits
have been giving to the Ukrainians. You know, a couple
of months ago it would have been unbelievable. Now they're
talking about this, He's saying he wants to see that,
and everyone's just looking and saying, well, these are the

(25:18):
times we live in. They're going to deliver these tourists missiles,
and they're even talking about which bits of the infrastructure
they're going to hitch, such as in particular, Fredrich Matts
talked about hitting the Kitch Bridge. That's that important bridge
which links Russia and Crimea.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Which is why I applied the trump But beforehand, are
we heading to what is Germany and locks it with Europe?
Are we heading towards a ceasefire? Or are we heading
towards the rearming of Ukraine and the walls all on?

Speaker 9 (25:48):
No one talks about a cease fire here, Mike. Let's
be let's make that absolutely clear. You know they've stopped
talking about a ceasefire. It really does look as though,
particularly with what happened over the weekend, with that killing
of what it was about some thirty four people on
their way to Palm Sunday mass over the weekend that
was killed by a Russian attack. The idea now is

(26:10):
there is no seas far on the horizon. You've got
to give Ukraine more than more weapons than it needs
so as they can take back the initiative. And just
today we had European Union foreign ministers talking and they
are saying that they will need this year alone around
seventy eight billion New Zealand dollars to buy new artillery

(26:31):
to help Kiev.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
Jos all right, Catherine, nice to get you up and
see you next week. Catherine Field out of France this morning.
And there's the other reason I played Trump and Mama
Ago about pharmaceuticals. I honestly to say that America doesn't
make pills and pharmaceuticals is just completely and utterly one
hundred percent wrong. More in a moment nine to seven.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Dogs Launy, Mike. With all the negative talk of terrorists,
there's no talk of what the Chinese are doing in
the UK with closing down their ability to produce steel
and moop production to China. Thank you, my friend, You're wrong.
Most of the conversation has been on this program, and
we'll have more of it after eight thirty with Rod
special legislation passed over the weekend, the government's taken over
and we'll hopefully solve that particular problem. There are thirteen

(27:20):
hundred officially twelve hundred and ninety six one thousand, two
hundred and ninety six pharmaceutical manufacturers in the US, So
when Trump goes, we don't make any bills here, we
don't have any pharmaceudo. It's crap. There's one thousand, two
hundred and ninety six of them. Five of the top
ten in the world, the biggest in the world are
based in the US. Pfizer, Eli, Lilly, merk Abby and

(27:42):
you might have heard of Johnson and Johnson, all in
America five minutes away from seven.

Speaker 12 (27:48):
Pally In and the ouse.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
It's the bizz with business fiber take your business productivity
to the next level.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Where's the media. There's a roomful of people there, don't
they go? Have you and not heard Johnson and Johnson?
Mister press? Anyway, For the first time in five years,
SMEs are more positive than not business confidence this is
We've got the latest MOOB twenty twenty five Business Monitor.
They've been running it for sixteen years. They survey more
than a thousand known as an operators. Forty six percent
expect the economy to improve over the next twelve months.

(28:17):
That's compared with thirty six expecting a decline twenty one
don't know. Forty six percent. Also the highest level of
confidence since twenty sixteen. Good news. Compare that to last
year it was only forty percent. Forty percent said it
would decline and thirty seven said would it improve. So
the whole thing's flipped. It's gone positive lifters, mostly due
to improvements in actual business and sales as opposed to vibes.

(28:37):
We don't like vibes. I don't believe in vibes anymore.
All these surveys where they go around say what do
you reckon? Do you think? I mean, no one knows
what's going on anymore. Twenty eight percent said revenue had
increased this last year. Forty three percent said it had
stayed the same year on year. Those reporting a loss
had dropped from thirty three to twenty nine. So that's
encouraging best sectors agrabusiness. So you can't go wrong in
agro business at the moment, can you. Transports going okay?

(29:02):
Manufacturing sectors all right looking a hit thirty five percent,
so they expect to increase their revenue, only eighteen percent
saying they're expected to be down on last year. So
how good's all this? I'm sorry if you can't handle
all the good news. By the way. Erica Stanford, who
will present herself as the Education Minister in the initial
part of the interview, but it's about sex education. I'm
sick of sex education, aren't you sick of sex education?

(29:24):
Full of angst. It's you know, penises and drawings on
boards and even Govan and all that stuff. I'm over that.
So in her capacity as Immigration Minister, we'll need to
congratulate her on the Golden Visa because it was her
who changed the rules and those rules have Sino flood
of very wealthy people wanting to come to the country.
So this is the good news. We want to impart
your way this morning. Also Nick Mowbray, I think he's

(29:47):
in Los Angeles. He's with Zura, you know the toys
and stuff. They're geting whacked like there's no tomorrow on
these tariffs out of China. So he gives us an
insight which will be good. And Jeremy Piven of mister
Selfridge fame is willis after rates done.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
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Speaker 2 (30:10):
Seven past seven. So the government wants a word with
you on the new Sex SID guidelines for schools. The
previous framework with scrap words like woken, out of touch,
we're being used. An independent group has put together a
new proposal and the Education Minister, Erica Stanford's back with
us a very good morning to you. Good morning make
Do you like what they're saying or not?

Speaker 18 (30:27):
Look, I do like what they're saying. I think though
there is probably room for improvement, which is why we
have now sent it out into the world and we've
said to parents and to educators, what do you think
should be taught and when? What is age appropriate? Is
there anything missing? Is there anything that we should add
in or take out? Let us know. This is the
time for feedback. It's just a draft framework. Once we

(30:48):
have public feedback, we will go and write the year
by year knowledge rich curriculum that will let parents know
exactly what is being taught every year, to give them
choice about what they do for their children and the
best interests of their family.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Over what time frame you're doing this.

Speaker 18 (31:04):
We'll be writing the curriculum this year. It'll be out
for public consultation later in the year.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
So this is genuine consultation as opposed to consultation.

Speaker 18 (31:13):
Now, this is genuine consultation. We don't have all the answers.
Nobody does. But the one thing I would say is that,
as you know very well, that there are many different
opinions on this, and it's very split, which is why
I'm doing this. Rather than asking schools to do it.
What we've had in the past is a very loose,
vague curriculum that leaves it up to schools who have
to go out every two years by law and consult

(31:34):
with their communities about what to teach and when. And
can you imagine putting a school in that position. Even
Ero reports that that it was very divisive and the
principles found it really uncomfortable. In fact, sometimes there was
a lot of aggression from communities.

Speaker 20 (31:45):
But what was being taught?

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Well, does this take any of the angst out of it?

Speaker 13 (31:51):
Well?

Speaker 18 (31:51):
I think there will still be angst, of course, but
direct that angst at me, do not direct it at
your schools. I'd rather that I take the heat on
this than they have to do that. So that's why
we want to have this year by year curriculum that
tells parents exactly what will be taught, the words that
will be used, so they can make an informed choice
about what to do for their child. But more importantly,

(32:11):
it gives us consistency. At the moment we know that
there are huge gaps in young people's learning when it
comes to our relationship and sexuality education. This will now
be consistent. It will give teachers in schools clarity, and
there will be choice for parents whether or not they
have the conversations with their children.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
And I say, where does a parents fit into this
at any point?

Speaker 18 (32:32):
Well, I think there's a well accepted narrative in this
country that it is the parent's responsibility, but the schools
will step in as the sort of the you know,
if you haven't been told this by this point, we
will teach it. But what we do have to make
sure that we do is say to parents, this is
exactly what's being taught. So if you want to have

(32:53):
a conversation in advance with your child and let the
school do some or if you'd like to pull them
out and do it yourself, or if you would like
to let the school to it. That is your choice.
And so I think that the group the Ministry have
put inside the Ministry have done a good job. They
have put puberty. I heard earlier that puberty was left
to high school.

Speaker 20 (33:09):
It's not.

Speaker 18 (33:10):
It starts at year five, at very early discussions, and
then at year six we talk about it more because
young girls are going through puberty much earlier these days.
And we are talking about consent and it will be compulsory. Finally,
and I had to do a shout out to the
girls of Wellington Girls College who have been advocating for
this four years and we will introduce it very early,

(33:32):
talking about can someone borrow my bike? Is it okay
to hold my hand? And then introduce it later in
terms of sex education at high school.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Okay, while I've got you other hat. The golden visa
things seems to smash hit and it's yours, isn't it.
You change the rules?

Speaker 18 (33:49):
Oh well, yes I did. But I've been talking about
this forever ever since the previous government made the changes.
It was obvious that it was, you know, shooting the
golden ghost and replacing it with a lame dark I
like to say we've had hardly any applications in the
last two or three years. I think these changes came
at the right time. There is an unease in the world,

(34:09):
as you know, at the moment. We made the visa
more flexible, more attractive. We've got different categories for different
risk appetites, and it is going gangbusters. We've already bullets.
I think that the number of applications we've had in
the last three years so or we furn well and
a lot of that is coming out of America exactly.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
All right, go well. Appreciated very much, Erica Stanford Education
and Immigration Minister eleven minutes past seven past three, which
has mentioned this visa. It does. Gangbusters might be too
strong a word, but I mean in the two weeks
since the idea has been open to applications, we've had
forty four of them. That's applications. So these are the
people have got either five or ten million to invest.
If all of them turn up, that's a quarter billion

(34:50):
dollar proposition. We've had one hundred and thirty six inquiries
and as Erica quite rightly said, seventy five percent of
coming from North America. Lane Leave immigration expert Mark Williams
is with us on this mar morning. She says Gangbusters?
Is she right? Right? So this is a game changer.

Speaker 20 (35:08):
Yeah, these refinements that have just really hit the mark.
So yeah, we're seeing huge, huge volumes of interest in
huge conversions.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
Has she done anything or has this government done anything
that couldn't have easily been done previously? I mean, is
there a bit of magic here or is just a
bit of common sense?

Speaker 20 (35:26):
I think? Well, I think a bit about Really what
this government did is really consult very widely with the
private sector, you know, when they should have shaping up
these changes to sort of have a greater understanding of
the market where the demand is internationally, and then use
that intail to shape up some policies that met market expectations.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
What do you make of the North America thing? Is
that Trump?

Speaker 14 (35:50):
Well?

Speaker 20 (35:50):
I think in terms of the United States, yes, there
is certainly some turmol there. There's economic insta building, but
it's not just the kind of state's America cantrying the world.
We've got insteadily uncertainty that tends to drive greater interest
in alternate countries like New Zeon.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Indeed, does it will it work this time? Because the
criticism previously has been if you've got fiable ten there's
plenty of people in the world that got fiable ten million,
your parket somewhere useless, just to get yourself some residency
or a house or whatever. Will this actually be put
to work and do something for the country.

Speaker 20 (36:22):
It definitely will, because if you have an understanding of
the policy settings, between the growth settings and the balance,
the growth is really going into very productive areas of
his own apartment, such as adventure capital funds, early stage companies,
bricks and water developments, and now all the applications that
the submitted, ninety percent of those have elected growth. So

(36:45):
that's more of the active policy, whereas balances more of
your sort of passive bond equity portfolio. So it's overwhelming
interest in the growth stuff.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
I'm almost out of time. But do they need to
change the rules on buying a house? I mean, why
would I give you ten million bucks of account buy
a house for God's sake?

Speaker 20 (37:01):
Yeah, I think it's sensible to look at that, and
I do hope there is changes there, because you know,
all the investors we're talking to the topic that they
are interested in. If they're going to spend time here
actively invest in new Zealand's economy. Then they would like
to have the privilege of owning a home, given the
coport is relatively small and types of homes that these
people would be buying, and I'm hoping an exemption will

(37:22):
come through for them.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Well, I hope so too, Marke. Appreciate your insight. Immigration
expert at Lane need Mark Williams with us this morning
talking to somebody who I can't name. The other day,
Peters is holding it up. It's on Peters and he
needs to change his mind. Fourteen past seven, The.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
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Speaker 2 (37:40):
Talks at b No one knows more about the tariffs
and Nick Mowbraves Zuru he's with us out of Los
Angeles after seven thirty and Jeremy Perven after seventeen past seven.
Speaking of TV, the theory is, as of this morning,
you Sky TV, if it hasn't been as back to normal,
we had a satellite switch over overnight. The Sky CEO,
Sophie Maloney's back with the Sophie Morning Morning, Mike Haydn

(38:02):
very well. Indeed, all seemed to go well. All my
TV's worked for yours.

Speaker 10 (38:06):
Yes, so look absolutely thrilled to confirm the successful migration
to the new satellite. And you know, you don't get
many moments like this in a career mic where you
have a team who go above and beyond to deliver
such a complex project. So yeah, absolutely thrilled. We've actually
got a couple of our in home tech traveling have
traveled to Stuart Island on the barge. We're spending the

(38:28):
next two weeks there and make sure customers and Stuart
Island will also be connected. And we do have a
few areas that we still need to get to, but overall,
hugely thrilled at the successful migration.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
In terms of how we got here in the grief
you've taken, how's that been as a learning experience?

Speaker 10 (38:45):
Yeah, you know, a huge learning experience. You know, to
think that we started this financial year not knowing we
had to deliver this and then to deliver it on
time with many many learnings along the way, things not
going as you expect. You know, it's hugely usually humbling.
To be honest, this team is pretty remarkable and it's

(39:05):
because we want to deliver the amazing sporting and entertainment
moments for kiwis as your experience at the weekend.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Mate, Yes, indeed I did what I didn't experience at
the weekend. Sofi was the snooker? Now, where the hell
is the sneaker? Where it is the snooker?

Speaker 10 (39:19):
Snooker? Twenty second to the twenty fourth of July.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
No championship, the World champ The World Championship is coming
up at the Crucible in about a week's time. Have
you got the World Championship?

Speaker 10 (39:30):
Well, I'm going to It's not on my notes here, Mike,
so I'm going to go speak to my partnership team.
But we do have the champions League and we've got
the Championship champions in November. So okay, But you know,
you can get much more.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Than it's a niche sport. I fully understand it, and
I'm a weirdo for following it. But nevertheless, so it
must be cheap, cost you nothing to get the snooker
on at the Crucible.

Speaker 10 (39:52):
You would like to think so. But I will follow
up with the team make as I did last time
when you talked about it. But when you talk about
the level of you know, the opportunity of the sport,
I can't really get through all of the sport we
had on at the weekend, kind of everything you can
think about, so you know what you know, huge moments
the team s guy. We're grateful to our customers. There
are some customers who might need help. And just for

(40:12):
those who switch on their box and it as it
doesn't wake out properly, if they could just do a
hard reboot, so unplug it at the wall, count to
ten and restart and if that doesn't work, give us
a call.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Good on it. Nice to talk to you, so if
you appreciate it very much, Sophie Maloney. And the full
proof test of that is if you unplug it and
you don't know how to count to ten, you don't
deserve Sky. Speaking of Sky, the ratings over the weekend,
I promised i'd get you those. The Women's final, which
was on in primetime collected four hundred and five thousand,
which is not bad. Three twenty seven on Sport and

(40:43):
Open now fifty five and Go twenty three, so four
oh five in total. Compare it to the night before
Crusader's Hurricanes, so that's apples and apples six hundred and five,
so six o five plays four h five. The day
game Blues Muwana PACIFICA was three seventy one, and so
overall more sports being watched, so they'll be pleased about that.

(41:03):
I've got a very good example of why the media
is where the media is for you in a moment seven.

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very good example as to why so many people don't
trust the media. So, like most things, it gets complicated, right,
and a lot of it is fueled by emotion. So
there's a simple survey, the likes of which was published
yesterday by the aut can never come close to capturing

(42:26):
exactly what the relationship between the industry and the punter
really is. But the US President had a medical over
the weekend. It's been widely reported. In fact, I've read
a number of the reports that states he's in very
good shape. The headline yesterday Sydney Morning Herald chose to
frame it this way. Here's your headline, overweight Trump has

(42:48):
sun damage after frequent golf winds. Medical report finds. Overweight
Trump has sun damage after frequent golf winds. Medical report finds.
Now you've got SU's firstly the subject. A lot of
what is reported about Trump has done with the slant,
and the slant is made more obvious by the fact
that those who support Trump tend to be a bit
zealous and therefore will react to perceived mis reporting more

(43:10):
loudly than many others. Secondly, the report does indeed say
he is overweight, but it is not the main part
of the reporter, indeed anywhere close to it, Nor indeed
is the sun damage. The sun damage is definitely there,
but it's hardly a feature. In fact, if the headline
is supposed to convey the important parts of the medical report,
it completely misses them. The important parts are that physically

(43:31):
and cognitively he is in very good shape. Why doesn't
the headline say that? What is the purpose of the
headline other than to mislead you or ridicule the president
by presenting the report in the worst possible light, that
is trust or lack of it. In a headline that
is a bad headline, a misleading headline, and a headline
that shows as the newspaper has an agenda. It's hardly

(43:53):
the end of the world. It's not scandalous, it's not
a lie. There is worse to be found other days,
in other places. But the paper is an esteemed rag
with big readership, and I assume a certain pride in
their reportage, and in that lies the complexity. Take a
look at these sort of examples on any given day
from any given number of outlets, and before you know it,
lack of trust. If, like I did, you knew more
than the headline alluded to, you very quickly concluded you

(44:16):
couldn't trust them for the full story, which is why
the media is where the media is asking Mike, who
cares about the snooper? I want more equestrian events like
badminton and Burley? Fair enough, Jennifer and I would argue, see,
these are the things that we need to talk more about.
Given were so passionate about sport, there should be basic events.
They've got it in Australia, they've got a law that
says basic events that we all agree are significant should

(44:39):
be available to us now. Once upon a time it
was available to us free to where all those days
are gone now, but there should be certain events like
the Masters yesterday, like Burley, like badminton, like the World
Snooker Championships. All these sort of things should be available
to us in some way, shape or form easily accessible online.
Don't you think got some job reports for you? You In

(45:00):
a couple of moments, will work you through the market
as it currently stands. Nick Mowbray out of Zuru, what's
it like being a manufacturer in China? And it's twenty percent,
then it's forty percent, then it's sixty eighty, one hundred
and four, one hundred and twenty five, one hundred and
forty five. And I don't even know that we're done yet.
How on earth do you plan and do business under

(45:22):
those rules and regulations? Nick Mobray after the news which
is mixed here on the Myke Hosking.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Breakfast, New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the mic
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togs dB.

Speaker 2 (45:38):
Mike, this is the exact thing Peter should slow down on.
At the very least, the possibility of overseas investors being
able to purchase property should be set at a minimum
of six times the average house price, not at a
dollar figure. Look it doesn't matter. I mean the National Party,
if you remember back to the election, said two million bucks.
It was the average price is a million dollars, make
it two million dollars. You're not cutting out the first
home buyers. Your average family can still get a house.

(46:00):
The people come into the country, they invest in the country.
This is the Golden Visa's business. If someone's got five
or ten million to invest in New Zealand, they've got
several million dollars for a house, and so make it.
Make it whatever you want. I think the last time
I talked to somebody about it, the negotiations between National
and New Zealand first were said at about five or six million,
make it fible, six whatever, just get on with it.
But the idea of asking people to come here with

(46:21):
ten million, invest in New Zealand, start a company, expand
a company, employee, people, help grow the country and old
by the way, you've got to go to an Airbnb
is ridiculous. Twenty three minutes away from a jire Me
Piven entourage, fame and mister Selfridge fame, among other things.
With us after eight o'clock meantime, as we continue to

(46:42):
swim in this area of uncertainty around the Trump view
of the world, in this tar of war, there are
a few more directly affected than the Chinese, of course,
who've currently set at a number of one hundred and
forty five percent. And within China, the toy industry is
getting smashed. The irony is the toy industry employees, for example,
more than two hundred and seventy thousand Americans. But if
you present to the product, of course, is still made
in China anyway. In the middle of all of this

(47:03):
is Zuru Toys co founder Nick Mowbray, who is well,
there's Nick. Very good morning to you.

Speaker 12 (47:08):
Morny Mike.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
How do you plan?

Speaker 12 (47:11):
You don't?

Speaker 21 (47:12):
I think every day we are getting together for a
new planning meeting because everything seems to change each day,
so very very difficult to plan, very difficult to allocate capital.
We're basically in a state of just stopping everything at
the moment because it is impossible to plan.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
What do you think will happen?

Speaker 12 (47:35):
It is hard to know at this stage.

Speaker 21 (47:38):
Or the administration seems to change their mind every day,
and so I imagine these tariffs are going to be negotiated down.
But we as a result of that, it just in
a holding pattern more or less. I think we ship
about willship about two billion dollars worth of goods to
the US this year, So at that run rate, that

(47:58):
makes our tariff's worth about three billion dollars At the moment,
so that is obviously impossible.

Speaker 12 (48:05):
To do.

Speaker 21 (48:06):
Obviously, we're moving to sans retails, moving to a first
sale model. But at this stage a lot of retailers
are just pausing and we're all in a holding pattern.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Why don't you do what Donald Trump says you should do,
which is simply close everything you have in China down
and move it to I don't know, Kansas.

Speaker 12 (48:26):
Yeah, obviously impossible.

Speaker 21 (48:27):
America has about four percent unemployment, and so I think
in China you've got around one hundred and twelve million
people at work in manufacturing. In the US you've got
about eleven million. And China has a deep and complete.

Speaker 12 (48:40):
Ecosystem for toys. I mean, it is an industry that
moves very quickly.

Speaker 21 (48:46):
You've got molding, electronics, packaging, tooling, and that whole supply
chain is all very close together. There's lots of competition,
all the infrastructures built out, They've got decades and decades
of experience. I think Sheensen alone has more engine years
that graduate every year and manufacturing engineers and the whold
the US. So you're in a business that moves incredibly

(49:06):
quickly with complex products, and you've got the whole ecosystem
that's being built over decades and decades, So I think, yeah,
basically it is impossible.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Yes, exactly. The other thing he would want you to
do is, I don't know how this works. You you
might know, you don't pass the cost on to the consumer.
You just give him some money by because you pay
the tariffs. Is his seemingly, how does that work?

Speaker 12 (49:32):
It doesn't.

Speaker 21 (49:33):
So at one hundred and forty five percent tariff, we
have to pass through significant price increases, which we'll see
obviously volumes four significantly as well. But because the environment
is so unstable and changing literally every day, all our
retailers in a state of parallel a state of pause
as well at the stage, so everything is just more

(49:55):
or less in a holding pattern. Most manufacturers are holding
right now, as are most retailers, and we're just waiting
to see what's going to transpire.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Are you worried?

Speaker 12 (50:07):
It'd be hard to say we're not worried.

Speaker 21 (50:08):
I think last week was an interesting week when I
was in Bentonville, Arkansas with Walmart and Zuo won two
of their seven Supplier of the Year awards, so that
was a pretty amazing achievement. And then the very next
day that the first tariffs came into play, so we
went from quite a high to quite a low, and
then obviously it's escalated ever since then, so it would

(50:30):
be hard to say we're not worried, but we're moving.
We're in a lucky position obviously, compared to I think
a lot of smaller supplies, smaller manufacturers and retailers in
the US. We will be able to weather this and
come out the other side potentially even stronger. But it
really depends how long it continues for, and of course

(50:51):
we're all hoping that that it doesn't continue very long.
But the administration is definitely extremely chaolic.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
Does America feel a little bit, I mean, you're there constantly.
Does America feel a bit freaky at the moment or not?

Speaker 21 (51:05):
Ah, hard to know, hard to know, to be honest,
I'm pretty much cooped up on our office and at
my place there in LA just working on this tariff
situation every day, working with our retailers. So I mean,
alan about that much apart from from yesterday I popped
down to the to the IndyCar. So it's hard to know,

(51:26):
to be honest, I think retailers are all just trying
to deal we're all just trying to deal with the
situation as an unfolds daily.

Speaker 2 (51:32):
Jeez, all right, good to catch up with you. Appreciate
it very much. Nick Mowbray, who's the Zuru Toys co founder,
What an insight A seventeen minutes away from mate Mike
and this. I'm glad you raised us because I saw
it and I've forgotten it, so I'm glad you we
can all share it now. Bill Maher did a very
interesting show last week where he recounted his experience meeting
Trump for the first time. Visiting the White House would

(51:53):
be great soundbites for your show. He's a centrist and
Trump has attacked him over many years. Surprisingly, he revealed
the buffoon we see as a total aggeration an act.
Well does he? I would look it up. Katie saw it,
played it to me. So Trump's attacked Mar a lot,
mar very, I thought, amusingly, got a whole list of
the attacks that Trump had made on him, put them

(52:14):
down on a piece of paper and took it to
the White House to the dinner and had Trump sign it.
And he not only signed it, but he signed it
in good humor. And what essentially Bill Mars says about
Trump is that he's very engaging, he's a very likable
he listens, he's genuinely seemingly interested in your view, and
other words, he comes across as not just normal but likable.

(52:38):
Like you walk away thinking, not a bad sort of bloke.
Your conclusion text that the whole thing's an act. I
don't believe Mars says that. I think Mars says there's
an act in it, but I don't know that. He
removes himself completely from the suggestion that Trump is completely
insane because he asks several times when he goes you're

(53:00):
going to say, how is it he can't be like
this all the time? Why is it he can be
a good guy at dinner, not for the rest of
the world. I don't know. He couldn't come to a conclusion,
but look it up. It's well worth watching in its
entirety because it's quite lengthy. Sixteen to two.

Speaker 1 (53:18):
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Speaker 2 (53:25):
Quick Squiz at the economy. Andrew was mentioning earlier on
the visitor numbers migration numbers that came out yesterday from
Stats New Zealand. I knowe we're still only tourism wise,
and this goes to the Prime Minister yesterday along with
Louis Upston who was announcing another thirteen odd million to
spruit New Zealand as a tourist destination. We're still only
at eighty five percent. For all the Americans who are
coming in, God bless them for doing it. Three hundred

(53:46):
and fifty four thy four hundred arrivals in February, thirty
three percent were from Australia, eighteen from the US. Across
the year, overall visitor numbers were up to three point
three five million. It's an increase of two hundred and
forty thousand of the previous year. We're still only at
eighty five percent of what we were post COVID, so
that's a problem. Business sales look good. This is the

(54:06):
migrant story. So inside strong demand for business outpacing supply.
This is the small business market. Buyer interest in buying
a business is at record levels. This is the ABC
business sales. New business listings are down ten percent, so
you got their classic supply demand. People are queued up
going how about a business? And they did is not
for sale? Signed confidentiality agreements are up thirty percent. This

(54:29):
is two record levels. Never been selling more businesses, average
prices down a bit. What they're saying has happened are
mainly the people from China, India and the Philippines. So
it's a great way to get a job. Of course,
you turn up here and buy your way into a job.
The main reason they're saying there aren't the supply is
because they're just holding off. These businesses are holding off
look to boost their books with a bit of profitability

(54:50):
and look a bit better for the sales process. Aged
cares good childcare, is good input distribution, high tun rate
in hospitality and retail. No kidding as regards job trade
me have come to the party this morning. Dissatisfaction with
workplace culture eighteen percent of us feel that undervalued, none
fulfilled fifteen and fourteen percent. Burnout twelve percent that seems

(55:10):
to be down. I'm sick of burner, I'm over burned.
I'm over people talking about burnout. Harden up, better pay,
it's always the same seventeen percent. Employers pessimism centers still
on labour shortages thirty three percent. Biggest business challenge at
the moment of labour shortage. Despite the unemployment, what's the
matter with us jan to March job numbers as in

(55:33):
terms of job ads is up sixteen percent, so there
are more jobs being advertised. That's good. A number of
job applicants is also up eight percent between January and March,
so more people applying for jobs. There are more jobs
being advertised, but still the employers are going I cannot
find talent, so there's something not quite gelling there at

(55:56):
the moment? Is there now? Christ jur Stadium? You see
the pictures yesterday, they're almost done, well then not almost
Done's got about a year ago but more in a moment.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
Ten to wait the Makehosking breakfast with al Vida Retirement
Communities News Togs.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Dead b are seven away from Christig Stadium having a
bit of a pr push. At the moment, we've got
a year ago project remains on time and on budget.
We got twenty eight hundred people having worked on at
the project director was Kent Summerfield. Who's with there's Kent morning,
Good morning, Benaja. Have you been there from day one?

Speaker 13 (56:25):
I've been there for about five years now, so yeah,
I joined about a year and a half before we
got on site.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
How's it been as a journey?

Speaker 17 (56:36):
Look really good.

Speaker 13 (56:38):
I think we've got a fantastic team, an excellent contractor
B six Watpeck out of Australia who have some really
invaluable experience in the space, and yeah, they work really
well with our client side team to kick things moving along.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
I've seen I assume most of us have seen the
pig over the last twenty four hours or so. Does
it feel close or we still got a lot of
work to do?

Speaker 13 (57:07):
I think certainly for the public they can see it
physically taking shape, obviously, the roof well and truly on
there and the clearing occurring. But us as a project team,
we're conscious that there's still a lot of work to
do over the next twelve months. But it is very
much getting real. The turf being grown off site now,

(57:30):
so all of those final bits of the puzzle are
good well and truly in planning. It's not occurring now,
so it's it's getting close, and yeah, it is very exciting.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
In situ. It seems to fit beautifully, doesn't it. It's
like ideally located and when you see it, it's like
that that makes sense, doesn't it?

Speaker 13 (57:52):
It does yeah. I think there's a lot of debate
initially around the positioning, but now it is going up
and people can see it, and it becomes a real
landmark around the study because you can see it from
quite a distance away. Obviously it stands out on the skyline.
So yeah, I think it'll be a reference point. But

(58:16):
you run in the.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Future fantastic, Well, go well with it and keep it
to time and budget. Kent Kent Summerfield, who's the project.

Speaker 4 (58:24):
Director of it all.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
And if you didn't know, I was watching a piece
on the TV news last night and they sort of
were going on about the fact that you can go
buy food and drink while still seeing the game, and
I thought, that's not a thing that's I was at
Yankee Stadium, and Yankee Stadium is not exactly new, and
you've been able to do that forever. It's not like, honestly,

(58:46):
it's ses. I don't know, but it's going to be fantastic.
If you've not seen it in christ Church, it really
is one of the It's like, it's not dissimilar to
the cake tin and Wellington that looks right. It's probably
a smidge too far out of town. Yes, you can walk,
but it's a little bit further than christ Church. Christ
Church has got it like bang on. My employers can't

(59:07):
find staff because they're looking for experienced employees. No one
wants to train anyone anymore. Is that true? Ain't you
making that up? He literally made that up. I got
some information from the Taxpayers Union this morning. The Department
of the Prime Minister in Cabinet been looking at the
pawn twenty four incidences of staff attempting to access adult
entertainment multiple months high concentration in May, June and July.

(59:29):
I'm assuming of last year. Department says it's reminded staff
about the rules. Won't say of anyone who's actually held accountable.
It's going on in the Prime Minister's Department, Ah, in
the Cabinet department. All the porn twenty four instances of
staff attempting, it's not just the one off of wops,
I made a mistake. Mean you had five in May, four,
in June, seven, in July. What's going on on the

(59:49):
Prime Minister's department? News for you in a couple of moments,
and then Jeremy Piven.

Speaker 12 (59:54):
Is our guessed my cards game. We've been faithful engaging and.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
The mic Hosking breakfast with the range Rover VI law
designed to intrigue and use talks.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Head be it is past eight. Well, Jeremy Piven is
a couple of different things to most of us. For
some he's our gold of course from Entourage, or if
you like me, he was the star of Mister Selfridge.
More recently we got the wilder release coming of the Performance,
which is quite the movie. Now that isn't enough that dimension.
He's funny, he does stand up and he's on his
way here anyway, Jeremy Piven is with us. Very good morning,

(01:00:27):
good morning. Good Look, you look like you're in pain
for a start, So so what's happening here? Like you're
holding your head. The interview's barely begun for goodness sake.

Speaker 19 (01:00:38):
Yeah, no, listen, I you know what I'm hoping is
you ask me what can we expect from you when
you come to do stand up comedy?

Speaker 5 (01:00:49):
Right, that's the question. I'm just oh at my life
will be peaking.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
If I can.

Speaker 19 (01:00:57):
Explain why I'm funny to you, I will literally my
pleasure gland will be exploded.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Okay, listen what I do Because I've been in this
game a very long time. What I do is I
build up to that because I don't want to.

Speaker 5 (01:01:10):
Build up to it. Oh yeah, let me explode together.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Yeah, we explode together. You don't want to you don't
want to do this in minute number one because by
a minute twelve and thirteen and to be so boring,
it's just like you know.

Speaker 5 (01:01:22):
Well I need yes. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:01:26):
Now, Now let me ask you a couple of questions.
First of all, I'm I read. I don't know this
to be true, but I read you live in Malibu.
If that's true. One, were you affected by the fires? Two?
If even if you weren't, what's been the rebuild?

Speaker 19 (01:01:42):
I no longer live in Malibu. There is no rebuild.
It's it's all just sitting there. We We had a
fire captain whose priority was diversity.

Speaker 5 (01:01:54):
I thought it would be water. You know, she didn't.
She did a great job. We're we're we're scrambling, my man,
We're scrambling. It's tragic.

Speaker 19 (01:02:04):
These people have all been displaced in the Palisades.

Speaker 5 (01:02:09):
I I'm up in the hills and got very lucky.

Speaker 19 (01:02:13):
The windstied down and the helicopters sprayed some water, and
we got very lucky out here, but it's tragic, and
you know, you know, all of us can say you
got to do better, but I don't know what it's
like to have a reservoir where there's no water. Listen,
I am to be honest with you. I unpacked a

(01:02:34):
lot of this in my stand up because it's frustrating.
And yet we we all need to come together and laugh,
you know, because we've we've everyone's been through it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:48):
Man.

Speaker 19 (01:02:49):
We're we're all, you know, very confused about life, and
so what better way to all get together and have
a good laugh.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
That is true. Second question, I answered, well, because it's
it's in the news cycle. Even here in New Zealand.
We were absorbed by what was going on in in
the Palisades and the hills and all that sort of
stuff for a period of time. Then suddenly, not knowing kids,
we've all moved on. But I'm assuming there's a lot
of people who are still suffering, still looking for insurance,
still trying to rebuild. Still, I think the.

Speaker 19 (01:03:17):
Reason why you're not hearing about it. And this is
a much longer conversation, but uh, you know, the media
is a is a is a funny fickled beast, and
there's a twenty four hour news cycle that you're you know,
well aware of, and you know, you do get to
see some guys who are out there who are throwing
some drones up and nothing's been touched whatsoever. In Malibu,

(01:03:42):
for instance, nothing has been done, and something needs to
be done. We you know, we're these people. You know,
they want to get back in at some points. We
all pay a lot in taxes, so we're curious what's happening.

Speaker 2 (01:03:58):
Yeah, exactly dubbed tiling in, but slightly separate the strike
of Hollywood. I read the industry has never come back.
So in other words, they got what they wanted. AI's
coming pay me some more money, but then people got
laid off. The number of productions made these days, there's
nothing like it used to be. Hollywood's in trouble. The
work drives up, Is that true?

Speaker 19 (01:04:19):
You know, there's so many different variables that go into
all this. I can't tell what has led to what,
you know what I mean, it's my job.

Speaker 5 (01:04:30):
I just finished a movie in the UK.

Speaker 19 (01:04:34):
Called Past Lives, and I've been on the road doing
stand up and it's my job right now just to
kind of run around and get up on stage and
interact with people and have a great time and make
people laugh and set up. Comedy has never been more popular,
I think because of all the frustrations that that we're
unpacking here.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
If I watched Mister Selfridge, which I did, by the way,
and I thought that was the show, it was just
I take it. It was a hit. It seemed like
a hit to me.

Speaker 19 (01:05:04):
Was it, Well, I'll put it to put it in
this perspective, we sold We sold that show to one
hundred and sixty five countries.

Speaker 4 (01:05:14):
Wow.

Speaker 19 (01:05:15):
And yeah, and that's more than Entourage. Now in the States,
no one's seen it because it was on PBS and
they're incredible.

Speaker 5 (01:05:23):
I watched PBS.

Speaker 19 (01:05:25):
But it's it's it's funded by the public, so they
get annually about eleven dollars to play with and to
kind of disperse it evenly amongst you know, all the billboards.

Speaker 5 (01:05:36):
I mean, it was a it was a rude awakening
for me. I was like, I got this show, guys,
let's go. And they're like, we don't have any money.
We don't have any money.

Speaker 19 (01:05:46):
Oh no money, seriously, And and so the show in
the States went under the radar. Listen there are people
of certain demographics that watch PBS that love the show.
In the UK it was huge, and Ireland it was huge.

Speaker 5 (01:06:00):
Maybe with you guys, I hope, Oh it was.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
It was fantastic. That's why I just these days you
never can tell because something gets a bit of noise,
is it really a head? I don't know. I loved it,
so that's all that counts.

Speaker 5 (01:06:11):
That is other counts. And I was wondering who was
watching and you're the guy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
That was me?

Speaker 20 (01:06:17):
That was you?

Speaker 5 (01:06:18):
Well done?

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Okay, listen, hold on, Jeremy Pivens will us. We'll come
back to Entourage and we'll come to Ontourage in just
a couple of moments.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
The team past the Mic Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast
on iHeartRadio pow It by News.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Talk Zippy Talk Me sixteen past eight. Jeremy Pivens is
coming to the country for his comedy show I give
you the Date's in just a couple of momes. Now listen, Jeremy,
can I admit to you, first of all, I've never
watched Ontourage. I mean we talked about Selfridge before the
break I've never watched Entourage, but as I said, I
saw Selfridge, which was brilliant. So so I mean, I
guess everyone's a fan until they're not.

Speaker 5 (01:06:53):
Yeah, well listen, thank you.

Speaker 19 (01:06:55):
You're an anomaly in my life and I love that
because you know when I who around doing stand up,
you know they're screaming.

Speaker 5 (01:07:03):
You know, I'm a douche bag because of you.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
Ari.

Speaker 19 (01:07:07):
You know, let's hug it out, bitch, and these things
mean nothing to you. Maybe someday they will, but they
they've really you.

Speaker 5 (01:07:15):
Know Ari's demeanor.

Speaker 19 (01:07:18):
He was always taking the piss and they love it
New Zealand and the UK and Australia. So I know
in those countries that when I hear that accent, you know,
I know they're coming over. So, for instance, I could
reach out to Joe Parker and then he and I
could go back and forth, and I'm gonna you know,
he's one of your own. He's a superstar.

Speaker 2 (01:07:39):
Where are you getting this stuff from?

Speaker 19 (01:07:41):
This?

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Joe Parker is this is a hang on? Here have
you done as a comedian. I'll do the local intel
and I'll drop in a New Zealand name. Were do
you know Joe Packer? We love Joe Pocket. Joe Packer
is my friend.

Speaker 19 (01:07:53):
He's he's one of the He's one of the good guys,
and when those guys win, it makes makes you really happy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
That is that is true? He's bigger, He's bigger than
he's ever been. He's going to be I think, uh
title holder, He's going to be a world champion.

Speaker 5 (01:08:07):
Wouldn't that be incredible?

Speaker 19 (01:08:08):
I just got the chills because that's one of those
stories where.

Speaker 5 (01:08:13):
You know a guy works his ass off.

Speaker 19 (01:08:15):
Yeah, and you know under the Radar has always been
really good. They counted him out and he never gave up.
So I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
I love that?

Speaker 9 (01:08:25):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
Do you support the Bulls or the Bears? I couldn't
get that right. Do you support because that's that's applicable
to the Bears because they constantly get good? Or is
it the Bulls you support?

Speaker 19 (01:08:33):
I only support guys that Josh Giddy and people in
Australia play for, and that would be the Chicago Bulls. See,
I'm tailor making all of this to your region.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
This is incredible. Now listen, the other thing I need
to cover off with you because I've gone through it
a couple of months ago. I'm late to believe you
tuned sixty in July? Am I correct?

Speaker 4 (01:08:51):
In saying this, No, I mean, look at me.

Speaker 5 (01:08:54):
They have it all wrong.

Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
I mean, obviously, if I look at you, you can't
be turning six. But I'm late to believe from research
that it could be sixty.

Speaker 5 (01:09:04):
No, it's forty fifty. It's something, right, I don't know
where it is right exactly. I'm not a fan of numbers. No,
I'm like a Cuban baseball player. I just I am
whatever I feel.

Speaker 2 (01:09:19):
There's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 5 (01:09:20):
Why do you go into the skincare game?

Speaker 4 (01:09:23):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Really?

Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
You?

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
God damn strike you do. But having said that, are
you going to be doing something in July for forty
to fifty? Whatever you feel?

Speaker 5 (01:09:29):
Or you you know, I haven't even gotten there yet, right,
But I do need to do something, sure, And you
know I love performing. I love getting up on stage.
I'll be in my hometown of Chicago performing at the VIC.
I know. I'm with you guys in New Zealand. What
theater am I at? You know?

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
Well, it depends where you are. I mean, where do
you want to be? I mean I've got you at
Sky in Auckland, Sky Theater in Auckland's that's a good place.

Speaker 19 (01:09:54):
That's a beautiful place. I'm very lucky. What is the
date that I'm performing?

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Do you know this is? That's very clever of Jeremy.
You've been in this game quite a while. You've been
in this game at a long time. It happens I
have it in front of me because I too of
them are probably with details ready to hand it you
this Thursday, July thirty one.

Speaker 5 (01:10:13):
Wow, So you're the first show that I'm doing after
my birthday?

Speaker 2 (01:10:18):
First shot forty or fifty or sixty or whatever it.

Speaker 19 (01:10:21):
Is, whatever it is. What I'll do is why don't
we all celebrate my birthday together? There you go, because
I'm still going to be drunk.

Speaker 5 (01:10:32):
Let's be honest, all right, I'm a total degenerate, right
and I'm going to play through with some adult beverages
and we're all gonna hug it out. I'm not saying
things that you don't even know what hug it out means.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
I know what hug it out means. What are you
talking about? You hug it out? Come on, hug it out.
That's what you do.

Speaker 19 (01:10:48):
Oh well, that's my catchphrase from mantraage was let's hug
it out, bitch.

Speaker 2 (01:10:53):
No, I didn't know the bitch bit.

Speaker 19 (01:10:55):
But well, hug it out if you know that it
comes from me, that comes from an emperor that I
did on answerage, I feel like I'm explaining a joke.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Not You did not invent hug it.

Speaker 5 (01:11:08):
Out, thousand percent.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
On your life, hand on heart. You invented hug it out?

Speaker 19 (01:11:15):
Well, I improvised the line in entourage, and it did
become a catchphrase.

Speaker 5 (01:11:20):
Why don't you ask some of your if you have
any friends, ask.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
Them listen the we're looking forward to We're looking forward
to seeing you in the country post your birthday, on
your birthday, whatever it is, and and and it's been
a joy to meet and talk with you and maybe
maybe become.

Speaker 19 (01:11:39):
Joe Parker is going to be at the show. Okay,
of course he's going to approve to you that he's
a friend of mine.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
Well, I don't not believe that he's not a friend.
I just don't believe you invented hug it out. I
believe that Joe's a friend. I believe you might or
might not be turning sixty. I don't believe you invented
hug it out. But either way, we'll sort it out
when you're here, coming and see us and we'll chat
some more.

Speaker 5 (01:11:59):
I be honored to come by and visit.

Speaker 19 (01:12:01):
Why don't you call Joe or text show? And you
asked him about that question? Hug it out, bitch? Did
that come from Piven? And on Entourage?

Speaker 5 (01:12:09):
And you're gonna you're gonna see that I'm a man
by word?

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
Okay, well I got it for now, Jeremy. By the way,
I'm living like Piven. I live like I'm living like Piven.

Speaker 5 (01:12:20):
I love it. How are you living j Piven?

Speaker 2 (01:12:22):
I'm living Joe, I love it. I'm living like Jay Piven.
Lovely to talk and chat with you and come see
us when you're in the country.

Speaker 5 (01:12:28):
I'll see you soon.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
There you go. He's crazy. So the I'm Living Like
Jay Piven is his podcast. I don't even know if
his podcast goes anymore, but that's yet more research I
did for him. It doesn't go anymore anyway. He had
a he had a podcast called I'm Living Like Jay Piven,
and I thought that's quite a clever podcast thing. So
he's here. On the end of July July thirty one,
at as we mentioned, sky Citty eight twenty two.

Speaker 1 (01:12:52):
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see your travel agent and get yourself to new a Pasky.
Mike Chandler said, hug it out to phoebeyond Friends. Yeah, no,
I think that's probably right. I remember that on Entourage
when he said hug it out. I use it now
with them a teen age daughters. They hate it. Thank you, Steve.

Speaker 5 (01:14:02):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Did you know you rated a good mention on Radio
and New Zealand earlier this morning? I didn't know that, Mark,
but thank you. Thank you for alerting us to it.
Our research team is on to it as we speak.
I watched mister Selfridge and loved it. Who didn't, Maria?
It was a brilliant show. He was amazing. Mike and Entourage,
thank you, Ellen. But as I just pointed out to him,
I've never seen Entourage. By the way, speaking of television Hacks,

(01:14:24):
I was asking about Hacks yesterday season four three people,
was at three people in the department, three people in
the department at TV and said, we emailed all three
at nine o'clock yesterday, No and turned our call. Not
one two of them are away. Does that surprise you?
Taking a few extra days, you know, between the Old
Easter and the ANZAC sixty six sixty six percent of
the department not turning up at this particular point in time.

(01:14:45):
So still no answer on hacks and why they haven't
got season four despite the fact it's dropped everywhere in
the world. Let's go to Britain and Rod.

Speaker 1 (01:14:54):
Next news opinion and everything in between. The mac skin
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and rural news dogs had been Jill.

Speaker 2 (01:15:07):
Mentioned this earlier, but gabon as they've got a military
leader called Nuima. Anyway, in twenty twenty three, he had
a coup let a coup and rolled out the people
who have been running the place forever, basically the Bongo
family they've been in power for since nineteen sixty seven. Anyway,
rolled them out. Now he's run what they would loosely
call in that particular part of the world, an election,

(01:15:27):
and he appears to have won it with ninety percent support.
More than seven out of ten registered voters took part
in the poll, so that signifies the election took place
transparently and peacefully. So anyway, we always have a little
bit of democracy watch on the program. So there you go,
twenty three minutes away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind
for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
We need to go to rip now though, Rod Little
my friend, how are you morning?

Speaker 22 (01:15:55):
Good morning to you mate.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
So the Parliament got together on Saturday and they passed
emergent legislation and they're going to say the steel, do
they save it? Do they know how they can get
the coal and all the stuff they need to keep
it going? Can they promise to keep it going? Or
we don't know.

Speaker 22 (01:16:08):
Well, it looks like they've got the raw materials or
according to Angela Ray, that they've got the raw materials,
which will mean that the that the foundry, that blast
furnace doesn't have to shut down and if it shuts down,
it's gold for good.

Speaker 17 (01:16:21):
But you're right.

Speaker 8 (01:16:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 22 (01:16:22):
They were convened on Saturday morning, the first time since
COVID that that a special session was called, and at
first they were very snarky indeed about the Chinese company
which owned still owns at them, which owned the steel

(01:16:44):
works at Scunsled, which are our last two last furnaces
for making virgins steel, and the company is called Jingaway.
They said they couldn't afford to keep the place running,
they couldn't get the raw materials through, they were going
to close it down. The labor government stepped in and
interestedly said, you know, this is to preserve jobs and

(01:17:06):
to preserve the community, and there's two thousand of jobs there,
twenty seven hundred in fact. But they also said this
is a national security issue, and it was that which
got them into the House of Commons and through very easily,
because it is a national security.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
Issue, right, So several questions come out of this. There
was a suggestion the owners the Chinese are selling stuff off.
Are they still doing that? Have they been prevented? Can
you prevent them from doing all of that?

Speaker 22 (01:17:34):
It looks like they have been prevented so far, but
I don't know what will happen further down the line. Meanwhile,
the Chinese government has warneded the UK not to mix
politics with trade, which is of course exactly what has happened,
and it's kind of changed the mood here, and the
mood has been changing over the last two or three months, undoubtedly,

(01:17:55):
like everything else, influenced by Donald Trump, that the trade
and national security are not necessarily divisible. There is no
longer the kind of dewy eyed feeling about globalization that
it's perfectly okay to let the Chinese run our last
glass furnace, and it's perfectly okay to let the Chinese

(01:18:19):
run out nuclear industry, both of which we were reasonably
held points of view during the middle of the last decade.
But that's gone now. I don't think that would happen
again now there's been there's been a sea change.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
So in terms of percentages, what is this really about.
I mean, if this was run by an Australian company,
are they still doing the same thing they're doing at
the moment and saving those jobs or is this all
about China.

Speaker 17 (01:18:46):
I think it's largely about China. I think.

Speaker 22 (01:18:50):
More latterly, certainly today and yesterday, the Labor government has
been rather more a circumspect and it's comments about China
saying that they're there are more companies in China than
just Geeway. You know, we shouldn't tar all of the
economy with the same brush. But I think that was
nonetheless behind the call to have that meeting on Saturday, because, frankly,

(01:19:14):
when my local steel works closed with a lot of
fifteen thousand jobs, no one turned a hair. There was
no demand for nationalization or anything like that. It was
just then that was a labor government. You know, that
was back in two thousand and six, two thousand and seven.
No one cared and ever since then conservative governments have

(01:19:36):
refused to bail out the steel industry.

Speaker 17 (01:19:38):
There was a bailout last year for Port Talbot, but
that's largely because it was a it was a kind
of green initiative to get them making post carbon steel.
But no, this is this is the first time and
it's got the port. It's actually galvanized the Labor Party
a bit.

Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
I was going to say, not only galvanized Labor Party,
how apolitical is it when drag them all to the
Parliament on Saturday? Or the Tories behind it or not?

Speaker 17 (01:20:04):
Most of the Tories are kind. There are a few
who are saying, as much is it's going to cost?
Why didn't you do it before? You know, all that
kind of stuff, and why were they allowed to own
in the first place, which is a perfect good question
to us. But it is that there isn't great opposition
to it in this country at all. Even the Daily

(01:20:26):
Telegraph it's asked a few questions about what the cost
is going to be and does nationalization work. Well, it
kind of works if you're put up against it like this,
and I think that's what most people in the country
are thinking at the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:20:40):
And you might listen, go, well, we'll see Thursday. Run
a little out of Britain. Just a couple of other
things in Britain, just to keep you up to speed here,
as I mentioned earlier on in the program, that bin
strike continues in Birmingham. They have I was going to say,
they've brought in the military. That's a bit dramatic that
there's a couple of people who sit behind a disc
somewhere who would loosely call themselves employed by the middle
they're more planners, that's all they brought in. The latest

(01:21:03):
stuff has been rejected, So Birmingham continues to go to
Helen a handcart. Speaking of the Chinese, there's a Liberal
Democrat MP called We're a Hobhouse. Interesting name. Anyway, She
went with her husband to see some family. She got
turned around at the border, so that's caused a little
bit of consternation. Her husband got let in, but she
got turned around, stuck on a plane. Meantime, Tulip Sadik,

(01:21:25):
who is a British MP. Bangladeshi authorities have issued an
arrest warrant the Double C. They're investigating allegations that she
illegally received land as part of a wider probe into
the regime of her aunt. Her aunt was the former
leader Prime Minister of Bangladesh and so that's interesting. And

(01:21:49):
then we come to the number of migrants, and that's
the disaster as well, because the number of migrants arriving
by boat across the Channel Tunnel, not the Channel Tunnel,
the English Channel six hundred and fifty six and eleven
small boats. That was just Saturday, six hundred and fifty
six people, eleven boats just on this past Saturday. So
the total of the year to date eight thousand and

(01:22:09):
sixty four, once again a record high. The previous record
high was last month. So it's getting worse. Sixteen two The.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
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Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
You'll be very pleased if you've missed it so far.
This morning that Casey Costello, as in the Associate Minister
of Police and New Zealand First MP, has announced that
Health New Zealand I should have given her her title
in health. What is she She's not the health minister,
she must be associate Health Minister. Anyway, you're not allowed
to call them pregnant people anymore. A lot of you

(01:22:45):
get very upset with our news service, and our news
service will follow this instruction religiously, so that's good. So
they won't be calling them pregnant people anymore either. So
that particular piece of wokeness has been sorted. Now to
blow your mind, I think I might have a Hacks answer.
Hacks the television prog which, if you've not seen it
at all, it's a slow burn, came out of nowhere,
turned into a really big hit. It's globally now something

(01:23:07):
quite special. It's up to season four. It was on
TV and Z season one to and three is TV
and Z. Couldn't find season four despite the fact that
it's dropped everywhere. Somebody suggested to me that it's on Max. Now.
The problem with Max, and this is the problem with
streaming generally and television and the modern media. It'll blow
your mind. If you've got a life like most of
us have, you don't have time for a lot of

(01:23:29):
stuff anymore. And so Max is on sky but not
old sky So if you haven't got a new sky box. Now,
as it turns out, Andy's got a new Skybox, and
on Andy's new Skybox you can go to Max. If
you've got an old Skybox, you can't go to Max
because it's not part of your entertainment package. It's not there.

(01:23:49):
If you've got sky Go, which Sam happens to have,
that's good because on sky Go, well, the bad part
is you need to have purchased the entertainment package. If
you haven't purchase the entertainment package, you can't have Max.
There are other things on the entertainment package, but Max
is part of it, but if you haven't purchased it,
you can't get it. But if you have purchased it,

(01:24:09):
you can get Max on MAXs Hacks season four. So
you need sky Go and the entertainment package and then
to look for Max. And once you got to Max,
then you can find Hacks. So at that point you
can be bothered. Who the hell would know that's happened? So,
I mean, you see what I'm saying. Unless you've got
a program, a radio show with half a million people
constantly in putting via text to you, you would never

(01:24:30):
know that had happened. Therefore, if you're a follower of hacks,
how do you find out where that show is? If
it's bopping about from TV and Z to Max and
then you go, where's Max? Well it's on sky Go,
I don't have sky Go. Well it's not the box.
Well it's not on the box. It's not on the
old box, but it is on the new box. It's
become so complicated and so convoluted you at some point

(01:24:52):
simply give up, don't you and go? I can no
longer be bothered. Can I recommend to you? If you've
never been. I've never been, but I know. The lady
Fleur used to run a restaurant, a famous restaurant in Clyde,
in central Otigo. It was called Fleur's anyway, it was famous,
It's fabulous. It was not one of those old stone

(01:25:13):
buildings right in the center of Clyde. She went on
and moved to maraki As in the boulders, and she
opened what was called Fleur's Place, which, as it turns,
was not called Fleur's Place. There was no name for it.
They never actually got named. They're just colloquially named it
Flur's place anyway. It's on the sort of sort of
on the end of the land at Moraki, sort of
into the ocean. She closed it during COVID. It's now,

(01:25:34):
I note this morning for sale. It's a former whaling shed.
It's all very rustic. It's actually not that old. It's
a built post two thousand. It's made to look rustic.
It's got a very modern commercial kitchen. You could run
it as a restaurant if you wanted, but the opportunity
is there. Allegedly you can convert of you of consult
with the council and all that sort of stuff. But
as far as a piece of land and location and vibe,

(01:25:57):
it would be as close to being unmatched as anywhere
in the counrty. It's absolutely fantastic. What it's worth, who
would know, But if that's your vibe, I've helped you
out there as well, because otherwise you wouldn't know where
Hacks was and you certainly wouldn't know that Flair's Place
was for sale. You're welcome. Nine minutes away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:26:16):
The Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate News Dogs.

Speaker 2 (01:26:20):
They'd be download the just Watch app tells you where
to watch everything. That's my hack for the day, Hamish
very good. I don't know that's true. I don't deal
with apps for myself, but if you that's true, then
that's useful. What I did do on your behalf this
morning is I got the average gas price in the
country as looking at the price of oil, because the
only upside of what Trump's doing to the world economy
at the moment before it tips into recession is that,

(01:26:42):
of course the demand tends to go down on doing business,
and one of the things you need to do business
is buy oil. So oil is not very expensive at
the moment. So the average average price around the country
at the moment for diesels one eighty seven on ninety one,
it's two fifty eight. For the cheapest is two thirty five.
If you want ninety five, it's two seventy six. And

(01:27:03):
if you want ninety eight under three bucks at two
ninety five. So there's goodbye. I'd personally go stockpile if
you're not going to buy, if you're not going to
buy a flus place and you've got to be a
spere money, then I'd stockpile petrol. I don't know how
long it went, don't know how long it lasts for.
That's if you haven't got into gold already. I hope
you're stockpiling gold. That's that's that's good stuff. How's your
crypto going?

Speaker 14 (01:27:22):
Eh?

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
How's your crypto going?

Speaker 16 (01:27:24):
Guys?

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
Is that going well? For at the moment, it's going
to be nine million before the end of the year.
It's not five minutes away from.

Speaker 1 (01:27:31):
Nine trending now with the M square house, you're one
stuff for Mother's Day fragrances.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
Now Cochella, which is a multi weekend thing that you
sort of go for one weekend and then some people
go back the next weekend, and it's the weirdest thing.
It's it's almost as weird as flying and then blue
up in Jeff Bezos's rocket and then saying something really
vacuous when you get back to Earth. Sixty percent of
people who went to Coachella this past weekend paid for
it on installment, which is the gobsmacking fact toyed of

(01:28:00):
the day for me. If you don't have the money,
you know, soz you don't go to Courchella. But like
that's life. Average ticket prices eleven hundred dollars. If you
put it into separate payments. You had to pay an
extra fee. So not only that you had to pay
because you didn't have the money. You paid eleven hundred
dollars plus seventy dollars ad minfee. And that's before you
get to the accommodation and the travel and the food

(01:28:21):
and the drink and all the other stuff. But you
got Gaga probably is quite good. That doesn't sound very good.
That just then on first blush doesn't sound very good.
But apparently she was good. The woman who plays Mook
from White Lotus is part of a pop band, k
pop band, and she was there and the guy who

(01:28:43):
plays Guy took on White Lotus, he was there to
support her. Also, Schwarzenegger was there to support her as well,
so that was nice. There's a bit of love going
on there with the business of the White Lotus, so
that's lovely. Boonie was also there.

Speaker 12 (01:28:57):
He did stay tim a chair.

Speaker 5 (01:29:00):
There's hey hopes.

Speaker 19 (01:29:04):
It is dangerously wrong and you and I, you and
I are gonna have to stand up to.

Speaker 5 (01:29:12):
The fossil fuel.

Speaker 19 (01:29:13):
Industry and tell them to stop destroying displan.

Speaker 2 (01:29:18):
Yeah, that's good stuff for me. I put this on
layby as well, wouldn't you. I put that on Labey
all day long. I mean, if you haven't got eleven
hundred dollars, I mean, you know, just pay it off
for the rest of your life. Who doesn't want to
pay money to listen to them? Listen to these enters,
and there's another one this weekend. What I want Sam
tomorrow the stats of who put the first one on

(01:29:39):
the payment plan and then also went to the second
one on another payment plan and whether they've got predatorsues
back tomorrow morning from six as always Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
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