Full Show Podcast: 16 April 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
In New Zealand's home for trusted news and views, The
mic Hosking Breakfast with the range Rover, the la designed
to intrigue and use togs Head, be.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Billing and welcome Today government wents on the crime front
as another target has ticked off. Russia wants to park
some mere power in Indonesia. Apparently, are we back fighting
inflation at the supermarket? At politics Wednesday? Ginian Mark after right,
Richard Arnold and America's steep price on the Australian campaign trail,
Pascal Right, Let's rip into it seven past six. So
tell you what I wonder if we aren't doing ourselves
some harm, more harm than good when it comes to

(00:30):
our finances, if not general mental health at the moment
with what seems have you noticed this an industry in
polling and surveys. The latest IPSOS work this week has
over forty percent of us not happy about money and
a decent chunk of us struggling. What is struggling? It's
open to a lot of interpretation, isn't it struggling? The
facts are here are the facts. This is part of

(00:51):
the issue. Mood doesn't necessarily deal in fact. Now the
facts are on average, our wages are outpacing inflation. Now
what that means is we are on average better off,
but the surveys don't show this. We're in a funk.
We've been in a funk since COVID. The other part
of the problem is the average.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Beit.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
None of us are average, either in our expenditure or
our income. So unless you see it, feel it, livet
average means nothing to you. The age old question as
to whether the price of a basket of groceries is
too expensive has been and forever will be answered the same,
Yes it is. Now. That's not about maths or income
or affordability. That's about mindset. If you've made up your
mind food is too expensive, or you don't trust the

(01:29):
media or lux and doesn't connect with regular people, then
evidence comes secondary to your mood, your vibe, your feels.
Is traffic too bad? Is the country on the right track?
Do you deserve more income? Does the council waste your
rates money? I can line up any number of questions
and if I word them right, I conversally guarantee you
an outcome, and then, having produced the results, I need
a compliant media to regurg to take them for an

(01:50):
easy headline. It's a self fulfilling prophecy. You feel life
is too expensive, you feel you are struggling. You read
that other people feel like you. You go to yourself.
Oh see, I told you it's true. It's news. It
must be true. Run around we go. Which is not
to say these things don't have an element of truth
about them, but it's like punching yourself on the head
if you keep doing it, what are the chances you'll
have a headache at the individual.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
News of the world.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
In ninety seconds, let.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Us wander through the wonder door into Trump World and
see what we find today. Will first up, Trumpe's base
mate Stevie Whitcoff, has been talking some more with the Russians.
Guess what wall's over.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
It took a while for us to get to this place.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
What Putin's request is to get to have a permanent
piece here so beyond the cease fire.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
We got an answer to that.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Uhh. But not happy is the president's frisen billions in
funding because they won't being.

Speaker 6 (02:41):
Diver unquestionable violation of First Amendment rights. This is a
move that happens in countries across the world when there
are efforts to try to make an authoritarian play in government.
And this is the moment when it's so essential for
those universities to take a stand. And if there's any
university in the world that has the resources to do
that and the moral leadership to do that, it's Harvard.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
They branded up another Wed who's been wondering around torching Tisla's.

Speaker 7 (03:04):
And they found the cardboard stencil used to paint the
letters kkk Ice Wagner. According to the Albuquerque Journal, as
a registered Democrat, he has charged with multiple counts of
destruction of property by arson, could land him in prison
for forty years.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
I won't even explain this, but you've got a senator
called Jim He's in an Energy committee hearing. He's brought
as dog. It's a fat bulldog. It's called baby Dog.
It gave testimony, and that testimony will be entered into
the congressional record.

Speaker 8 (03:37):
She loves everybody. I found this in COVID. I didn't
intend in any way to be hauling a bulldog around.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
No way on her.

Speaker 8 (03:48):
We've never owned a bulldog before. She's not supposed to
like everybody, but she does.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Seeing you thought the president was mental, uh in Court
in New York having another crack at Weinstein.

Speaker 9 (03:59):
Jerry action is the key.

Speaker 10 (04:01):
If you don't get jurors who are willing to base
their evidence on what they see on the witness stand,
what they hear on the witness stand, but they're going
to let all the other bad stuff they've heard about
Army for the last six years. It's been flood into
their brain. Then you know where it's like climbing Everest.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Then in britainle's Chinese steel stuff. That's a misses. The
government tries to say the business while not looking anti Chinese.

Speaker 11 (04:24):
I think we've got to recognize that steel is a
sensitive sector. It's a sensitive sector around the world, and
a lot of the issues in the global economy of
steel come from over production and dumping of steel products,
and that does come from China. So I think you
would look at a Chinese firm in a different way.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Well, there's news of a wacky world in ninety got
on inflation read in India. It's bitter than they thought
they thought it would be three point six one. It
came in at three point three four. So that they'll
be happy and stand by. I'm assuming I haven't talked
to him yet, but I'm assuming Andrew is fizzing at
the Deary News This morning, twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
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Speaker 2 (05:06):
Singapore's called an election over night, fourteenth general election since independence.
Lawrence Wong's first May Three's your Day. Nominations day is
April twenty three, last time they had a vote. It's
a fairly subdued, a fair like most things in Singapore.
The People's Action Party, which run the place, got sixty
one point two four percent. They won eighty three of
ninety three parliamentary seats, and I don't think there's any
indication that it's going to change. Fifteen past six from

(05:31):
JMI Wealth Andrew Keller have very good morning, Yeah, very
good morning mate. I'm liking the look of these numbers.
I'm liking the look of mozzarella and butter and whole
milk powder. It's all on.

Speaker 9 (05:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (05:42):
The Global Dairy Trade Auction was run overnight. A bit
more focus on this one might because then would normally
have been the case. Because I believe it or not,
the financial world has been a bit of an interesting
place in the last couple of weeks, lots of movement
in financial markets, and the point of interest was what impact,
if any, this may have in demand for dairy products
expressed through the Global Dairy Trade Auction. And you know,

(06:04):
last auction we had quite a benign one point one
percent lift, and that was back on the first of April,
which doesn't seem that long ago, but that was preceding
the White House Rose Garden announcements on those initial US
trade tariffs, so it was and we've certainly seen something
of sort of a risk off attitude since then.

Speaker 9 (06:20):
And China is an important part of the.

Speaker 12 (06:22):
Global dairy trade ecosystem, it's an important.

Speaker 9 (06:25):
Source of demand.

Speaker 12 (06:26):
And the auction result overnight Mike for the moment, will
have allaid I think some of those concerns. Global dairy
trade indexes lifted one point six percent, which I think
is in the circumstances.

Speaker 9 (06:37):
Is a pretty damn good result.

Speaker 12 (06:39):
And that's also sort of consistent with the stable trend
we've seen.

Speaker 9 (06:43):
Since the February rally.

Speaker 12 (06:44):
So you butter up one and a half percent, skill
milk powder was down, but the important whole milk powder
up two point eight percent. Now, the thing is, might
we don't know whether over time the sort of impact
of the tariffs and slowing the Chinese economy will have
an impact on the demand for sort of the premium
New Zealand dairy product.

Speaker 9 (07:01):
But for the moment, Mike, it's bluing. Okay, I'm pretty
happy about it.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Good stuff. What about housing? I see what can I
sell you? Sales are up, listings are up. Is this
good or not?

Speaker 13 (07:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (07:11):
Look, well it's just we have a little wager on this,
don't we make we do? We do have a little
wagrounding You're probably more right than I am.

Speaker 9 (07:21):
Over the course over the course of this year.

Speaker 12 (07:23):
Well, yes, they Real Estate and Institude of New Zealand released
the latest dat So I look at the annual move
and the house price index because I prefer that metric
to the medium price just because of the whole compositional issues.
Annual move Look, it's zero point seven percent lower in
the last twelve month months and it's sort of quite
similar across the country.

Speaker 9 (07:41):
There's still a bit of a north south divide.

Speaker 12 (07:43):
If you look at the rankings Southland canterury Otago, they
occupy the top three spots in terms of annual percentage movements.
And so you know, we've always said if you want
to feel good about the country, go to christ Church.
Look at the monthly numbers. Look, there is a modest
gain from February to March. And it's actually this see
a bit of a trend going on there at the moment.
So if you sort of come away from the annual

(08:04):
numbers and look at the monthly numbers, it's not enough
yet to lift the annual price moving into positive territory.

Speaker 9 (08:10):
And the news from the north is also better.

Speaker 12 (08:12):
When you look at the monthly data or from house prices,
they've been quietly creeping.

Speaker 9 (08:16):
Up as well.

Speaker 12 (08:16):
That house price in except zero point six percent over
the last six months.

Speaker 9 (08:21):
Yet sales look sales are creeping up.

Speaker 12 (08:23):
The problem you've got here is inventory and new listings
are also keeping sort of pace with that. You coming
to the end of summer, that's normally the busy time
in real estate. So sales are at one point five
percent month or month. You remember a lot of these
numbers have to be seasonally adjusted. Mike, I actually think
these numbers are moving in a positive direction. And I
actually think because we will see interest rate further interest

(08:44):
rate relief over the second half of this year. I
think you're going to see a slightly more buoyant market
in the second half of twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
I believe you to be correct. Now, CPI tomorrow, what
are we thinking.

Speaker 12 (08:56):
Yeah, look, so we had the we had the what
are called the selective Price index is out yesday. So
that's forty five percent of the CPI basket, mostly tradeable inflation.

Speaker 9 (09:04):
And there's a little bit.

Speaker 12 (09:05):
Of a bug bear in there, and that food prices
are up three and a half percent, So that's a
fourteen month I fourteen month high and we're seeing it.
You know, there's lots of talk about the dairies are
butters up, chocolates up.

Speaker 9 (09:15):
And Easter and all of that.

Speaker 12 (09:16):
Look, the general tone of those selective price indexes, we're
a little bit stronger than expectors. And what we've seen
is most economists have sort of just nudged up their
first quarter CPI estimates.

Speaker 9 (09:28):
So you're looking now.

Speaker 12 (09:28):
At annual inflation in a range of sort of two
point three to two point five percent. I think ben
Z highlighted some kind of weird stuff going on with
overseas accommodation prepaid in New Zealand it's being a bit
of a rogue factor in those numbers. Look, the RB
and Z were at zero point eight and for the
quarter and two point fourth the month. It's going to
fall somewhere in there. And basically I just think there's
going to be nothing to look at there. There's bigger

(09:50):
stuff going on in the world at the moment, so.

Speaker 9 (09:52):
I think it'll be steady as she goes good stuff.

Speaker 12 (09:54):
What are the numbers so doubt US market's actually a
relatively steady overnight as well. Dal Jones is down one
hundred and forty points. It's about a thirty percent forty thousand,
three hundred and eighty five. The sm P five hundred
down nine points five to three nine six, the Nasdaq
down point.

Speaker 9 (10:11):
Four five percent. As we look at it was up earlier.

Speaker 12 (10:13):
On sixteen thousand, seven hundred and fifty four Overnight, the
forteen one hundred games to one point four percent eight
two four nine. The Nikke gained point eight four percent.
Three four to two six seven was.

Speaker 9 (10:24):
The mark there.

Speaker 12 (10:26):
Small rise in the Shanghai Compert point one five percent.
The aussis yesterday, small rise again thirteen points seven seven
sixty one, The n SEX fifty though we foul point
seven nine percent. Yesterday it was ninety six points twelve
thousand and eleven. Kiwi dollar is now over fifty nine cents,
so weak, US dollar stronger. New Zealand dollar trend continues
point five nine oh three point nine two nine three

(10:48):
against the OSSI point five two three six euro point
four four six seven pounds eighty four point four nine.
Japanese end gold is trading at three thousand, two hundred
and twenty eight US dollars. Brent crude sixty four dollars
and sixty nine cents, and Mike, if you're stuck for
anything to do in the wind and the rain for
the next couple of days. The Arby and said yesterday
released a live GDP indicator.

Speaker 9 (11:10):
Go online, have a look at that.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Is that a good number?

Speaker 12 (11:13):
It's actually falling a little bit, so you may not
be that impressed when you actually see it, but it's there.

Speaker 2 (11:18):
Okay, nice to talk to you, appreciate it, so you tomorrow.
Andrew Calot jomowl dot co, dot m Z excusing overnight LVMH.
This is the luxury market. There's a great debate around
the luxury market about who's buying who isn't with it.
The Chinese and LVMH have always dominated. They've lost their place.
Overnight shares are down eight percent, unexpected to climb in
first quarter sales. They've been replaced now by Ermez, whose

(11:40):
seam recession proof. This is the ultra luxury market and
if you ever look at a flashhouse, it'll almost certainly
have an Rmez cushion and an Irmere's rug, and lots
of flash houses are staged with Ermez products, So suddenly
they're the most valuable luxury brand in the world. Six
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Speaker 1 (11:58):
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Speaker 2 (12:06):
It'd be well well Well press release from Andrew Little
this morning. Andrew Little to stand for Mayor of Wellington.
Good start to a press release. Give us the details
straight away. You're not left wondering what's happening. I'm standing
for mayor because Wellington needs urgent change in serious leadership.

(12:26):
Can't argue with that. China, by the way, you want
to talk about a trade ar guess what China's done.
They rang bowing, They said, you know all those jets
we're ordered, don't worry about it. Ha ha. Imagine getting
that phone call. Meantime, there's a bunch of small businesses
who are suing, and I reckon they stand a not
unreasonable chance. They're suing Trump over the tariffs. In general,

(12:48):
the US Court of International Trade alleges that Trumps I
legally usipped congress power or congressional power. They claim the
trade deficits with other countries constitute emergency power.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Wrong.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
It doesn't. It has not delegated any such power. The
statute the President invokes the international Emergency Economic Powers does
not authorize the President to unilaterally issue across the board
worldwide tariffs. On that, I think they have a reasonable point.
I'm going to follow it with interest. Six twenty five
trending now with a Chimmi squarehouse.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
You're one stuff for Mother's Day.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Fragrances Richard on that. Shortly another Stephen King novel we're
getting made into a movie, The Life of Chuck. It's
based on his book of the same name. It's about
a guy's life, Chuck. That's why they call it the
Life of Chuck. Chuck anyway, they tell it in reverse clever.
It begins with them dying of a brain tumor at
thirty nine, ends with his childhood.

Speaker 14 (13:41):
When you look up at the night sky, it can
tell your stuff about your future. It won't lie to
you pure that way. You might see a lot more

(14:07):
than you wanted. But if you have heart, you have hope,
and you have heart in you.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
That's nice. Tom Hiddleston stars, Tom Hiddleson, Karen Gillen, Andrew
Little who's running for mayor of Wellington, Mark Hamill, and
Nick Offerman. It's out in cinemas June and sixth, but
because most of us don't go to cinemas anymore, it
will be turning up eventually on meon this business. Andrew
mentioned at this business of the old supermarket prices and
getting ourselves into a bit of a fuffal. I mean,

(14:43):
where are we at with the supermarket and the prices?
What's going on? We'll crunch a few specifics. Chris Quinn
is back with us later on in the program. Meantime,
the News is next. You're on the mic Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Setting the agenda and talking the big issues. The Mic
Husking Breakfast List with Bailey's Real Estate, your local experts
across residential commercial and rural news Togsdad be the.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Bloke Naboa who runs this is South America, who runs Ecuador.
He was and I think he still is. He was
Ecuador's youngest ever elected official president. They had an election.
A lot of people for some reason thought he might lose. Anyway,
he didn't. So South America, Latin America remains. He's a
mate of Trump's, remains firmly on the right hand side

(15:27):
of the equation, twenty three minutes away from seven Harvard.
On the surface or at the headline level. What Trump
is looking to do with places like Harvard is go
you can't go round being anti Semitic the way you are.
So there's a funding routs of Richard Arnold on that
shortly meantime back here is this the future? There's your
question this morning. Customs and the Defense Force. They've got

(15:49):
these two uncrewed surface vessels that are going to be
used to disrupt transnational organized crime. They're USVs there. They
were trialed last year. Apparently they're seven and a half
meters long. They use a mix of it's all a
wind and tide power to move, so they can be
at sea for a long time. Customs Deputy Chief Executive
of Operations, Jamie Benfit's with us on all of this. Jamie,
morning to you, morning Mike, how are you very well?

(16:10):
Thank you? When we say customs and Defense, do you
share it allad your sort of co lab and all
that sort of stuff.

Speaker 15 (16:16):
Yeah, we've invested alongside Defense in buying those two Concreerede
separate vessels. So it's a sort of joint venture.

Speaker 2 (16:22):
What do you pay for them? What are they worth?

Speaker 15 (16:24):
You're about a million and a half dollars for each one,
so not cheap, but considerably cheaper than getting a frigate
out there to do the same sort of job.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
And will they do the same sort of job as a.

Speaker 15 (16:34):
Frigate, Yes they will. I mean the Pacific Ocean has
gone from being a defense to a bit of a
risk vector for us with our drug cartels and our
adversaries starting to smuggle through the huge ocean. We have
the world eleventh largest coast science who've got a large,
expansive sea to monitor, and so these two, these two
vessels give us the opportunity to see and look across

(16:56):
the oceans and see what's coming our way.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
What do you do about it? Because if I was
a drug smuggler, I would outrun you. I see there's
no people on board, I might blow you up. Do
you have all of those sort of things covered.

Speaker 15 (17:09):
Yes, we do. We work closely with defense and police
and other agencies, so make sure we've got a good
understanding what's happening and we kind of plan accordingly. So
I think you'd have seen we've been into the Sea
of Defense to pick up three tons of cocaine a
year or tour ago. We also arrest people on shore,
so we've got many, many kind of ways of responding
to that issue.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Is this a game change or just a technological advance?

Speaker 15 (17:34):
I think it's both. Actually, it used to be hugely
expensive for us to sort of have this capability. Prices
come down because technology is advanced. We're tech hungry at
customs and defense, and so I think it really kind
of brings us into the game and gives us some capability.
Ournversaries are growing too.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Does the tech improve over time? So when you talk
about solar wind and tide, does it use all of
that at the same time, And is that tech and
proving exponentially?

Speaker 15 (18:02):
Yes it is, and yes it can, so it can
be at sea for quite a long time. You know,
if you put out like I say, a frigate is fueling,
it's got men and women on board. They need feeding,
so it can only be out there for so long.
Lost expense. These things pretty cheap gives us good maritime
domain awareness as we call it in the trade, for
a very cheap price.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Really nice to go. Well, Jamie, appreciate it, Jamie Bamford,
who's the Customs Deputy Chief Executive of Operation sounds good,
doesn't it. Twenty minutes away from seven Paul, I've got
a lot of polls this morning, three of them out
of Australia. Dutton's done for. It's over. The debate was
can Elbow win? If you go back six months, can
Elbow win? Maybe? Maybe not? Could be the first person
since nineteen thirty whatever to lose the first term election.

(18:46):
He will win. Then the debate became will he win
with a minority or will he win with a majority.
If you read this morning's numbers it's a majority. So
he's done well or has he done well? Who has
done disastrously? Anyway? More on that shortly. Meantime, we've got
some low body elections coming up in Britain, which is
always a test for the incumbent government, looks like they're
going to get smashed because Reform in the poll this

(19:08):
morning has gone from this is in the North and Midlands.
This is the so called labor red wall. In the
North and the Midlands, they've gone from eighteen Reform farage
eighteen to thirty percent. Labour's gone from thirty nine to
twenty seven. Two thirds agree Britain's broken, twenty three percent
say no, that's not true. Our strategies now believe the

(19:29):
party is going to be Reform going to be a
bigger threat than the Tories in the national election in
twenty twenty nine. Nineteen two.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
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Speaker 2 (19:43):
Talks b I alluded to it yesterday. Seems we've got
a bit of movement in the old fixed term market
of mortgages at the moment. We got another one coming
from the b the Reserve Bank of the cash right
we assume next month in terms of another cash rate cut,
which I'm assuming will then trigger some more movements. So
Quibank and A and ZI latest Kiwibank six month five
four nine biggest cuts the one year fixed at four

(20:05):
nine nine. See where this is going. You're looking at fours.
I keep saying, I reckon, we're going to bottom out
at about four point five. If you see, I mean,
don't take my advice. I'm not handing out financial advice.
I'm just saying, I reckon four point five is where
it's going to land eventually. So one year fixed at
the moment at four nine nine. Turn deposits of course
have been crunched as well, So that's the other side
of the equation we don't talk enough about. Meantime, the

(20:25):
aen ZID six month five four nine, one year fixed
at four nine nine, eighteen month fixed special at four
nine to nine. So if they come to the party
one more time, the Reserve Bank, that is, I reckon,
we're probably going to look to be at about four
point five, which historically speaking is a pretty solid number
six forty five.

Speaker 16 (20:45):
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for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
To go to the take which today are very good
morning to you, Good morning mate. So Harvard not happy
and not surprisingly.

Speaker 17 (20:57):
Yeah, President Trump is cleared yet another battle, not only
on tariff and immigration, but this time it is a
showdown with this country's oldest and most successful university, that
being Harvard near Boston. I mean, who cares about university
gigs and trigs right? Well, you might look at Harvard's
record on things like medicine, for instance, and a theater
first used at Harvard. That was a good development. The

(21:19):
small pox vaccine was created at Harvard. The EKG for
hard health was first used at Harvard's Teaching hospital. First
kidney transplant nineteen fifty two Harvard. First person to survive
polio had their life saved at Harvard. The first MRI
was used at Mass General the Harvard Hospital nineteen seventy nine.
The pill, the oral contraceptive, was invented at Harvard, and

(21:41):
on and on and on. The university was started in
sixteen thirty six, which was one hundred and fifty plus
years before the creation of the US government. Now Donald
Trump wants to run it. He's demanding control over hiring
and admissions policies. The university says no way. In a statement,
they say no government should dictate to a private university

(22:01):
what it can teach, who it can hire or admit.
So Trump is reacting by freezing more than two billion
US dollars right now in federal grant money. Harvard is
wealthy because but the White House now is calling for
an end to the tax exempt status for operations and
research unless Trump gets to run just about everything.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Now El Salvador. That's back today, Wizl's head.

Speaker 17 (22:25):
It is the Trump team is battling over the fate
of this Maryland father of three who is deported to
the supermax prison in El Salvador because of what the
White House admits was an administrative error, mistake or no.
They're now saying this man Abrego Garcia cannot be returned
to this country, even though the US Supreme Court says
the government here should facilitate his return. Trump's team says, well,

(22:47):
it's not on American soil anymore. So they washing the
hands of the whole thing. A federal court very soon
today will consider that White House response. Christy Nome, the
Homeland Security Advisers, saying the people that Trump sends to
El Southvador should stay in prison there for quote the
rest of their lives. Democratic leader in the House that
Kim Jeffrey says.

Speaker 14 (23:06):
The Supreme Court and or the federal District Court actually
needs to enforce its order.

Speaker 16 (23:11):
Well.

Speaker 17 (23:12):
The White House claims that Garcia as a member of
the MS thirteen gang. Garcia denies it. Another court said
there is no evidence of that. Two hundred and thirty
eight people have been deported to the Supermacs prison in
El Salvador from this country. The place is perhaps the
most notorious prison on the planet. New York Times Today
saying the majority of these people have no criminal backgrounds

(23:32):
at all, according to the research they've been doing. As
you know, the White House, Salvador's president, who calls himself
the world's coolest dictator, Naib Bukeli, says it is preposterous
quote unquote to ask him to send this man back
to the United States. And Trump stirred things even further
when he jokes with Bikelly about wanting five more of
these Supermacs prisons built in El Salvador in order to

(23:54):
send there. Not only would be immigrants, said Trump, but
some quote unquote bad americansiders as well, So exporting supposed convicts.

Speaker 18 (24:03):
Where have we heard that before?

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Exactly, you have a good long weekend. We'll catch up
next week. Richard Arnold state, So, by the way, a
comprehensive survey out of CNBC, the Supply Chain Survey. This
is the tariffs. Most companies say high costs will keep
them from moving manufacturing back to the state. So all
this is doing is confirming what everybody already knows. And
we talked to the Zuru people yesterday on the program.
Eighty one percent expect automation to be favored over workers.

(24:26):
Reassuring would double costs, the trade wars more likely to
kick off a new global search for low tariff regimes.
Seventy four percent in the survey said cost was the
top reason for saying they would not be reassuring production.
You can't go back to America and pay American wages
to make half the stuff they make in China or Vietnam.
Finding skilled labor was an major problem for twenty one

(24:47):
percent of them. The price tag of building a new
domestic supply chain would at least be double current costs.
That's what eighteen percent of people said would likely to
be more than twice as expensive. That's forty seven percent
of people. Sixty one percent it would be more cost
effective to relocate to a lower tarer of country, and
as well as the current administration's inability to provide a

(25:08):
consistent strategy. In other words, everything this age they makes
absolutely no sense whatsoever. They also have supply chain concerned
sixty one percent. They feel like the Trump administration is
bullying corporate America. So that's corporate America telling Trump that
what he's doing is insane.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Ten to seven the Mic Hosking Breakfast with the Range,
Rover Villa News Togs Dad Ben.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
It's an interesting one. At Harvard, the administration, as in Trump,
also demanded the university stop recognizing or funding any student
group or club that endorses or promotes criminal activity, illegal violence,
or illegal harassment, and to overhaul the admissions process to
bar any international students hostile to the American values or
who are supportive of terrorism or anti Semitism. That, as
I said earlier on the program, on the surface, doesn't

(25:52):
seem like a particularly bad request because that Khalil guy,
of course there wasn't hard but it was another one.
But you know, they were defending him as well as
the guy wanted all the Jews shot poll time in Australia.
So competing policies Sydney Morning Herald have done the pole
this morning. Labor policies, personal tax cuts, all that sort
of stuff. Anyway, fifty six percent support the coalition's tax package,

(26:14):
so they went on that fifty six because only fifty
four percent support the labor tax package, so the Coalition
are after the reduced fuel tax so you get cheaper petrol.
But when head to hit, when they said, well pick
one forty percent favor labor, thirty four percent favor of
the Coalition. What's really important this morning is the other
polet's out, which is IPSOS. Dutton's personal approval rating has

(26:36):
literally collapsed. Twenty seven percent approve of his performance, forty
seven disapproved, so he's underwater to the tune of minus
twenty It's the lowest pole performance rating and the lowest
figure as of preferred prime minister any candidate this century.
Thirty five percent like Elbow, thirty nine percent don't, so

(26:57):
he's hardly popular either. But when Dutton's as unpopular as that,
majority of Australians believe the country's heading in the wrong direction,
which is the interesting part about the whole campaign debate,
and what I was saying before, is Elbow winning or
is Dutton losing? Because generally that question, if you don't
believe the country's going in the right direction. Whoever's running
the country loses, so they don't think the country's going
in the right direction. But then they look at the alternative,

(27:18):
I e. Dutton and he's a walking disaster. His kids
become a fascination to the media because for a day
he refused to tell the media whether they would help.
He was helping his kid by a first home and
then that became a problem. He is as it turns out.
So anyway, it looks like it's done and dusted. But
we'll talk to Steve about that later in the program
five to seven.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
The in and the Outs. It's the fizz with business
fiber take your business productivity to the next level.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Now do you study speaking of Australia investigating workplaces as
to whether they plann to my great to Australia for
higher salaries or wages. They're looking at culture. This is
the great Place to Work study which spoke to one
hundred and fifty six thousand kiwis in Australian so that's
a lot of us. It found that New Zealand organizations
rate higher than Australia when it comes to things like
work culture, fairness and inclusive se does that surprise you,

(28:06):
surprise me. Seventy three percent of Australian firms believe their
workplace is fair. The idea of fair takes into account
a whole lot of stuff, equal opportunities, remuneration seventy six
for New Zealand, So I mean seventy six pe to
seventy three. There'll be a margin of erra of three there,
So where even stevens I reckon. Sixty seven percent of
Australians say their employer treats people fairly regardless of age.

(28:27):
Only fifty five percent of Australians say they paid fairly
for what they do. Forty two percent say they believe
redundancies on the table at any time, such should we
get rid of the useless people? Seventy eight percent say
their office is a safe place to work. For us,
it's eighty one. Eighty one percent of us think it's
a safe place to work. When it comes to actual performance,
the study says they have found that if a workplace
makes a conscious effort to improve their culture and fairness standards,

(28:50):
they perform on average thirty five percent higher than firms
who don't. See that's crap, that's literally invented Bollocks fairness
thirty five percent higher. Whatever. In New Zealand, firms who
worked towards it performed twenty one percent better. Believe it
or not. I was watching the Prime Minister yesterday. Such
is my life. So I'm watching the Prime Minister. I'm

(29:10):
watching the Goldsmith and Marx there as well, and they're
spreaking these numbers the Victims of Crime survey, which isn't
actually out yet, but they've had a look at it
and they're seeing it. It's a recess week in Parliament
and they're seeing they're traveling reasonably well. Things are going
well for the government at the moment, so they thought,
let's get in front of this, let's spread some good news.
Eric has been out there handing out money for classrooms,

(29:32):
will hand out some numbers around crime. So things are
going So it's a vibe thing because the interesting thing
about the victims of crime, a lot of the stuff
they're wanting to do in justice and this is why
Goldsmith's with us in a moment hasn't even become law yet.
So if they're doing well at this level, things could
get really good anyway. Paul Goldsmith after the News which.

Speaker 19 (29:50):
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Speaker 2 (30:02):
He had been only seven past seven. So it looks
like the government's winning on the crime front. These new
stats from the Victims of Crime Survey show the goal
of reducing victims by twenty thousand has been beaten. They
look to be twenty eight thousand fewer victims, although I'm
reading something else it gives me another number. But anyway,
that's why we've got Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith who's with us.
Very good morning to you.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
So we're quoting twenty eight thousand fewer victims, which is
a win. But I've got the paperwork in front of
me that says thirty four thousand fewer victims. Do we
know what the number is or doesn't matter. We're just winning.
So therefore that's the main point.

Speaker 20 (30:30):
Well, it's twenty eight thousand since October twenty three when
the government came in, and that's when it was the
baseline for the figure. So we wanted to reduce the
overall number of victims of crime by twenty thousand from
that figure that it was, which was one hundred and
eighty five thousand New Zealanders a year of being victims
of violent crime. So rather than twenty we've gone down

(30:50):
twenty eight. You know, this is which is very encouraging,
and it's good news that we promise to restore law
and order and we're making good progress on that, recognizing
you know, this is a whole community wide thing that's
going on.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Well, I was going to say in Canterbury there's a
forty three percent decrease fifteen thousand fewer victims in Canterbury alone.
Can we explain any of this?

Speaker 20 (31:11):
Well, I mean that there's obviously variations down different parts.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
Canterbury obviously making good progress.

Speaker 20 (31:19):
That there was a lot of violent crime and it
comes and goes in cycles to some degree. But I
think fundamentally the signal that we've been sending as a
government has been very clear right from the start. You know,
you've you've got to remember, for about five years, the
previous government was all about, you know, don't worry, it's
somebody else's fault if you're doing this, a culture of excuses.

(31:42):
We're focusing on reducing the prison population, all this sort
of stuff, and we came in very clearly saying no, no, no, no,
there is no somebody else to blame. People have got
to be personally accountable for this. We're not going to
be talking about all that, and our focus on is
reduced seeing the number of victims of crime. That's what
we've got to focus the system on, and it's paying dividends.

Speaker 9 (32:05):
But yeah, obviously we've got a lot of work to do.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
Well, I was going to say, because what you appear
to have done is get the cops back on the beat.
All of that's good, and you've got a sense in
the community that people feel safe. We've seen that from surveys.
But a lot of the work that you want to
do in justice is yet to actually pass the House,
the discounting and all that sort of stuff in the courts.
So this could be even more effective by the time
I don't know whatever, get to the election next year.

(32:28):
For example. Well, we hope.

Speaker 20 (32:30):
So, yes, we've passed the three strikes legislation. We're passed
the tougher sentencing regime, but they take effect from June.
So yes, that'll have a bigger impact because you know,
thinking about it logically, if you want to reduce the
number of victims of crime. The best place to start
is that very small group of New Zealanders who are
creating multiple victims and putting them in prison, getting them

(32:51):
out of circulation, so they're not creating new victims and
so will be that will continue. There's obviously been an
increase in the prison population, significant ones since we came
into power, and that's appropriate because we've got to get
on top of the situation.

Speaker 2 (33:05):
Good stuff. Appreciate it. Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith more with
Mark Mitchell, Police Minister after eight in his regular slot
of course, just on those numbers. So there's still one
hundred and fifty seven thousand victims of violent crime, which
is a lot of people, but it's thirty four thousand
down eighteen percent decrease and as I mentioned Canterbury, that's
a good news story. Auckland in particular has had a
very big decrease eleven thousand few of victims in Auckland,

(33:26):
nineteen percent decrease. Why Kato's, as far as I can
work out, it's the only region that's actually gone up.
There's more violent crime and Whykatter So I'm not sure
what that's about, but watching that press conference yesterday with Goldsmith,
Mitchell and lux and I thought Mitchell made a very
good point just on the gang patches, because everyone goes, oh,
it's not going to work, and it has worked. And
we had a cop on the show the other day

(33:47):
said it surprised her that it had worked, but there
seems no doubt. And what it was is vibes. Basically,
it's a government saying don't dick with us, or else
you're in trouble. And the gangs, as Mark put it
in the press come yesterday, no longer staunch up when
they go to places like hospitals and stuff, because they're
not wearing a patch. They're not feeling as cool as
they used to, and they're not making big dicks of

(34:09):
themselves the way they used to. And things have settled
down and all it takes is a bit of leadership
and a belief that you mean what you say. Simple
A eleven past seven, Cosking. Now other matters, what do
we make of these reports that the Russians and the
Indonesians are cozying up. Russia's looking to park a little
bit of long range airpower. We think about thirteen hundred
k's from Australia, Darwin. Of course, Putin and Subianto seem

(34:30):
to be increasingly friendly. International geopolitical analys Jeffrey Millers with us. Jeffrey,
very good morning to you.

Speaker 21 (34:36):
Good morning mate.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
They denied, Also, who do we believe?

Speaker 21 (34:40):
Well, look, there's the old saying from Bismarks that never
believe anything in politics until it's been officially been denied.
And yet there has been a categoric denial from Indonesia
on this, and I think we should take them at
their word, MIC because it wouldn't really fit with Indonesian
and foreign policy. They have the foreign policy of non
alignment and conducted military exercises with Russia in the in

(35:03):
the recent past. But they've also conducted exercises with Australia,
the US, and China, and I think that tells you
really everything about how they approached the world.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
Okay, so we don't need to panic about it. How
would China react if it was true? For example, would
that be bothered by that given the relationship with the war?

Speaker 21 (35:19):
I don't think so. As such, it's an interesting question, well,
how China would actually see this. Look, I think all
of this is just a reflection of the continued escalating
tensions that we're seeing around the region, around the world.
So you know, we should take this seriously. There's probably
something to it. It came out of the James Defense website.

(35:41):
I don't think they've made this up out of thin air.
There must be something to it somewhere. Peter Dutton, though
in Australia, is going to hype this up. He called
it a catastrophic failure. Yes today, the fact that Anthony
Albanezer didn't seem to know anything about it before James
published it, and he is going to hype this up
because we've got the TV debate on tonight. He's got
a vested interest in turning the page, moving on from

(36:02):
some of the gaffs in his campaign and turning the
focus to this hard security. But I think we need
to be very careful about telling countries, big countries and
the Global South like Indonesia, what they can and can't
do with the military paces. And we should also remember
mic that Russia is also part of the Asia Pacific.
They've had a Pacific fleet based near that of Ostok
since seventeen thirty one. We sometimes forget that Russia is

(36:24):
also an Asia Pacific power. As well as a European one.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Good insiders always Jeffrey appreciate it. Jeffrey Miller, International Geopolitical Analysts,
thirteen minutes past seven.

Speaker 15 (36:33):
I'st get you.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
I don't know the debate's going to save Dunton. He
If you've ever want to see a wheels fall off
a campaign from a reasonably good standing start, Dutton's you man,
he will I'm assuming get rolled if he loses it,
although he's fought hard to get there, so anyway, that's
for another day. Step Price later on the program. Our
annual emissions just to make you feel good about yourself,
they've reduced again Official Climate balance sheet, all parts of

(36:55):
the economy shrank and admissions. What they don't explain, and
what I ask you this morning is could some of
these emissions dropping be a direct result of our economy
not going well?

Speaker 5 (37:05):
So?

Speaker 2 (37:05):
In other words, when we don't make a lot of stuff,
do all of a sudden we not emit as much.
I mean, obviously you can join those dots fairly easily.
And I just wonder how much of that's about that
The greenhouse gas infantry fell two percent in twenty twenty three.
You go twenty twenty three. What's going on there? These
are slow figures to come out. They're the latest figures.
Similar drop in twenty twenty two. We peaked in two

(37:26):
thousand and six, pretty stable for a decade, fell in
twenty two and twenty three. Most of its trees. So,
while we continue this angst ridden debate over whether we
should be planting trees all over the place, trees are
doing the heavy lifting for our environment. It's a quarter
past seven.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
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Speaker 2 (37:48):
At b our CPI inflations out tomorrow officially for Q
one and there's some suspicion that's starting to creep back
up again. We look to the supermarket. The food prices
yesterday three point five.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Is that a worry?

Speaker 2 (38:00):
We'll talk to the supermarket shortly. Seventeen past seven. Now,
the physiotherapy folk, I've got an idea to save us
money this morning. They want a minor law change that
would allow them to sign off patients to return to work. Currently,
a GP's got to do it. A Physiotherapy New Zealand
president Kirstin Davies, Well, this Kurston morning to you. Good
morning Mike, is this this old ancient thing where by
a physiotherapists aren't real medicos and you've got a fake

(38:22):
degree and so you need somebody proper in the medical
profession to do it all? Is that where that comes from?

Speaker 15 (38:26):
Well, we do have a four year degree, of course,
and it is.

Speaker 22 (38:29):
Within our scope of practice to sign people toward to
understake those medical certificates. So we're they're ready waiting to
do that. To reduce that bottle. We can get people
back to work in the timely fashion.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
And that was all that would take, just a little thing.
You don't need to go back to a GP. A
physio can do it. That's all that's required to change it.

Speaker 22 (38:51):
That's right. So that would be a legislation change at
the moment it mentions GP and nurse practitioners that just
need to add physiotherapists in there, but actually acc at
the moment could make an operational change and just and
allow that through the contracts that they had with us.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
Why don't they.

Speaker 22 (39:12):
You'd need to ask then that what we are seeing?

Speaker 2 (39:16):
What it take me nine years to get an answer?
Like every other government department operator going in this country.

Speaker 22 (39:21):
Mike, I have absolutely no comment on that.

Speaker 2 (39:28):
It's the logic to it, and so I just don't
what would their argument be against you ticking the box
as opposed to a GP or this practitioner.

Speaker 22 (39:36):
I'm not sure. I don't know. You'd need to ask them.
We know that there's an issue there. New Zealand cannot
afford to have bottlenecks in our health system. We all
need to be working seamlessly at the top of our
scope together, you know, to ensure that we don't have
these bottomnecks. They cost the New Zealand taxpayer millions. They

(39:59):
are disruptive to business. People need to get back to
work that disruptive to the patient. It's difficult and it's unnecessary.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
You raise a very good point, Kirstin, and I am
going to follow it because I've got Sammy, and Sammy's
jomped today is to ring ACC and there seems to
because I can tell you some stories about ACC. In fact,
I'm sure we could all tell each other stories about ACC.
They're in the whole once again financially and if they
can do something that's easy. So Sammy's job today is
to ring ACC up, break through the barrier that unquestionably

(40:31):
will be put up in front of him by way
of a simple answer, is Brian there, Hi, Brian, why
don't you do this? And Brian answers the question comes
back to us tomorrow. So what will now almost certainly
be a multi day operation. While they fart around trying
to find some department or some person who hasn't taken
three extra days off between Anzac Day and Easter, we
will come back with the answer to see why they

(40:53):
aren't doing something about it, because that's what we do.

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Halfway ish, can we suggest things are starting to turn
a little bit for the government now this week we've

(41:54):
seen the Prime Minister at Ruakura multi billion dollar investment
that sells the Marie economy showcases large amounts of foreign
money as well as the potential for huge productivity gains
in the economic growth. Monday, more money for tourism. Tourism
is coming backs too slow, way too slow, but the
tourists spent is up to post COVID levels. Numbers aren't
back with the spenders, which is good. Yesterday, Education Minister

(42:14):
Stanford pumping more money into classrooms, savings made from the
bespoke design nonsense and waste that the labour train wreck
was in charge of. Then the Prime Minister's back with
the police and the Justice Minister's spreaking these very good
looking numbers around victims of crime. This comes off the
back of three polls, all of which showed the same thing,
the government being returned to office if an election was
held today. Slowly but surely, specific bits are starting to

(42:37):
fall into place. We had a good GDP, of course
last time the growth stats were published. Clearly yesterday's numbers
are Crime, which was as big as any issue last election,
is looking very much back in the box. The gang
patch laws are working, even if the critics are saying
that they're working people, the surveys say feel safer on
the streets, and the victim numbers look very good. Indeed, health,

(42:58):
of course remains an issue, and there seems a determination
among the unions especially to keep it on the front page.
But the key bits that single support governments, the economy, education,
crime and justice, they look solid. If they can get
health under control, they'll be rolling. Obviously, the economic side
is fragile and open to a lot of stuff that's
beyond our control, so counting checkens is a bit pointless
at this point in time. And on that note, you

(43:19):
then come to this idea that's gaining some traction that
the Trump fiasco could well be the making of our
prime minister. A bloke who struggled to connect might well
have settled nicely into his wheelhouse with an economic mess
that could see the best of them shine when it's
needed most. If the polls play okay for them the
way they do now, there's a glimmer of light, and
by the time we get to the end of the year,

(43:41):
momentum might well be theirs an election. An election may
well be theirs to lose. Usky micahs someone who's had
many injuries. Why do you had many injuries? A funny
way to open the text. Mike is a person who's
had many injuries. What is it you've been doing? Falling
down a hill? Do you fall off the barstool? Do
you trip yourself up? What's going on? Physios have far

(44:01):
more clue than GPS about when it's time to get
back to work. It's a no brainer. Thank you, justin
and watch the door, Mike. Sorry, I would not, for
one be confident in a physiotherapist making a medical decision.
I've never found physios to be helpful. In fact, they
usually cause more harm than good. Jees, you're a downer.
You injure yourself a lot as well. What's going on?

(44:22):
Every time I walked down Medical Mile, which is a
place I haven't been to, but nevertheless it's a place
with a lot of medical places. I've told you this before,
Nerola and I walked down as walking down to the
day funny enough, and the number of people in New
Zealand engaged actively in the health system never ceases to
amaze me the times I've gone to the doctor. I
went to the doctor recently, as I bored you witness

(44:43):
with and just the number of people who are there
for lord, note, they can't all be turning sixty like
me for a health check. They must have I mean,
they probably fallen over, They probably injured themselves, and they
need a reference for a physiotherapist. All the specialists I see.
I said, what are these people doing? How much insurance
is being paid out from Southern Cross and Booper and
Etna and all the others.

Speaker 9 (45:03):
Are you know?

Speaker 2 (45:04):
There's something not right about this country. There's like more
than more than average. It seems to me we're a
country of injured and ill people, don't you think? Am
I literally just making that stuff up? As I was
wandering down the road yesterday. The supermarkets and the prices
and inflation. Let's talk about this after the news, which
is next.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
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Speaker 2 (45:34):
She is wandering around Asia at the moment. He's got
a three stopper. He's into Vietnam, Malaysia and Cambodia. If
I get time, I'll mention in Vietnam, because I hope
that from the pomement is the trip the other day.
We're expanding our we're selling fruits and vegetables to that
particular part of the world, and what we get from
them is increasing, which is good, but what they spend

(45:54):
in total is massive. So therefore there's a huge potential. Anyway,
point being, she's in v at now, Malaysia and Cambodia,
drumming up business, talking about free trade, and in one
of life's interesting little twists, I think she's going to
come out on the right side of the so I refer,
of course to Trump and his tariffs, so go back.

Speaker 9 (46:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Just two months China was a problem. China geopolitically was
an issue. We weren't liking China. China was suspicious. Their
plan for the world, their dealings with the world, was
not to our taste, particularly so in this particular part
of the world. And yet all of a sudden he's
going around going, hey, free trade, We're into free trade.
We like free trade. You want to do some more
free trade, We're all over it. And he Ultimately, I

(46:36):
think as America becomes increasingly isolated, is going to come
out in the right side of history. Twenty two minutes
away from eight.

Speaker 13 (46:43):
Yeah, you've got that.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
You wouldn't have said that a couple of months ago,
would you now? Back home? Speaking of things to sell
to people? What about the supermarket and the prices and
the food price inflation annually three point five? Does this
add to the general sense that a bit of pressure
might be going back on overall inflation picture That official
number comes out tomorrow, of course. Foodstuffs New Zealand managing
director Chris Quinn back with us, very good morning, Good morning, Mike.

(47:05):
As regards price increases three and a half percent, Have
we got a brewing issue here? Is inflation back or not?

Speaker 18 (47:12):
Look, it is definitely an uptack on what we've seen
so far this year. But there are a couple of
key causes in this one. So the food price inflation
number was three point five percent, our retail increases only
two point eight so we're doing something to manage that.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
But the big drivers right now were butter.

Speaker 18 (47:29):
Prices in lamb legs in but are obviously what's going
on with dairy and the global dairy trade. Pricing, which
is fantastic for our economy, obviously does still flow through
to local prices of products made from dairy. And the
other thing for the month of March is that lamb
legs because of the shift of Easter, so the production
and promotions on those shifted from March to April. So

(47:51):
that's a couple of the key causes. And behind this
there's a lot of other products that have continued a
nice flat, you know, one to three percent sort of increase.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
If you wanted to be healthy. And this is sort
of off topic, but nevertheless, what I'm looking at is
fruit and veggies are down. Tomatoes and cabbage are particularly down. Meat,
poultry and fishes flat. So if you want to eat
well and avoid chocolate and all of that, you can
do so, and the price isn't going through the roof.

Speaker 18 (48:17):
That's right, and that's probably the best news about the
last twelve months is that the fresh products that people
would want to be eating more of and have had
a reasonably hard time with some of the weather events
in the last two years, they have really stabilized and
New Zealand growers are doing a great job of getting
that value to our customers.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
And that explanation you give on theari are there's still
people around who don't understand the equation. They may not
like it, but do they not understand it that we
sell stuff to the world. The world is willing to
pay us a lot of money, which is good for
the country. Therefore we end up paying that domestically.

Speaker 18 (48:50):
Yeah, I think in a world of very disturbed global
trade and settings right now, it is fantastic that we
have an economy that does that still. But as you
can you know, as the product is sold across the world,
then obviously the components that go into milk, butter, cheese,
products like that, you're going to see the impact of
the core components increasing in value. You're going to see

(49:11):
it in our local products. We try to talk about
it like this so that people do understand that's what's.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Happening PlayStation five, which has got nothing to do with
supermarkets yesterday said they are going to put the price
up because life is difficult, and so we're just going
to pass that cost on. How much of that are
we still seeing in food?

Speaker 18 (49:29):
Look, I think food's pretty transparent.

Speaker 9 (49:30):
It's had a lot of focus.

Speaker 18 (49:32):
And there's been a lot of measurement and a lot
of tracking of food, So I think it has a
lot of scrutiny. Two thirds of what makes up the
price of what goes on with shelf and a supermarket
on average is the cost of goods from supplies. It's
had less scrutiny and less focus than supermarkets.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
You got any read on tariffs, any idea of any
of this floats down to a supermarket shelf and if
it does win and buy how much?

Speaker 18 (49:57):
I guess the key thing is everyone will know about
tariffs is that it's on products going into countries like
the United States, So at face value, it shouldn't affect
the price of goods that we buy. The real questions
will be two things. One is what happens to availability
around the world. Do we get much higher availability of
products because they're no longer being bought as much in
those countries. And the other one is what happens to

(50:18):
global shipping.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
So as those.

Speaker 18 (50:19):
Patterns change and settle, will that add cost to New Zealand,
Will we still get the same volume of shipping available
or will it improve things? And that's a real guessing
game right now that our team are looking at pretty
closely every day.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
I'm not surprised Chris appreciate it. Chris Quinn, who's with
food stuffs, of course, eighteen minutes away from eight tasking
free trade and the CCP is a delusion. You might
not like Trump, but don't let it blind you to
what he's trying to do in going after the CPP
market manipulation deception. I get all of that. If the
Trump thing was just about usv China and what Chinese
have done with dumping and manipulation and stuff, that'll be fine.

(50:54):
If the Trump thing was just about them reciprocating to
the trade tariffs they internationally, that it'd be fine. But
it's not. And that's why it's a problem. Those numbers
I was referring to with Chris, by the way, and
this goes to these average numbers and why we have
this perception that everything is more expensive than it should be.
You can actually do quite well in this country in

(51:16):
terms of what isn't going up. So fruit and vegetables,
which we should all be eating more of, actually went
down on price. So when I come and do the survey, going,
is the price of groceries too high? Yes? Is the
price of groceries going up too much? Yes? Wrong on
both cases. So fruit and vegetables are actually going down,
and if you want to go on an annual basis,

(51:37):
they're down two and a half percent, which is quite significant.
As I mentioned to Chris, tomatoes and cabbage are down substantially.
We should all be a cabbage I personally like, I
get that some people don't put tomatoes for lycopene is
a must. Tomatoes on fifteen percent. When was the last
time you saw something drop by fifteen percent? Tomatoes? Ere
you go to meat, poultry, and fish, all of which

(51:57):
we should be eating more of, virtually hasn't gone up
price at all, So it's not even remotely inflationary. What
has gone up and there's nothing we can do about
it for obvious reasons is the dairy. Because we're selling
so much internationally, so your yo gets up and your
butter's up. I get all of that chocolate. You don't
need chocolate, Yeah I need it, it's gone up in price.
Don't buy it. Non alcoholic drinks, fizzy drink crap. You

(52:20):
don't need it, don't buy it. And so by doing
that for yourself, you can actually find that you can
save quite a bit of money. Seventeen to two.

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Speaker 2 (52:33):
Talks at be Mike, don't buy chocolate. It's easter. See
that's that's what I'm saying. You want to buy chocolate,
Buy chocolate, Buy as much chocolate as you want, but
don't complain about the price. And this is the difficulty. See,
if you want to save money, don't buy the stuff
that's gone up in price. If you don't mind paying extra,
then do it. I couldn't care less what you buy.
But that's the point, isn't it. Mike Interesting the food
Stuff's man said about the price of butter being a

(52:55):
dairy problem on a television I program last week. Dairy
said the what do you mean? Dairy said the increases
the price of butter. Lay with the supermarket funny, ain't
no it's irrefutably an international success story for our dairy industry.
The auction was on this morning. Again, they have one
every two weeks. The dairy auction butters up another one
point six this morning, and the international market is prepared

(53:15):
to pay more and more for our dairy products. This
is a good story, unfortunately, because we're not like Saudi
Arabia and oil. We're not subsidizing these things, so we
pay the international price, and by paying the international price,
we are sort of in a sense, recognizing our success. Mike,
buy your fruit and veach from your local fruit and
beach shop. I tend to agree. I'd buy nothing from

(53:37):
the supermarket that's fresh. I've got a butcher locally who's
very good, but he runs the runs the butchery in
the supermarket. But he was a proper butcher out in
the real butchering world, and he retired. He was one
of the number of people I've known who retired. He
goes write them out and then six months later you
got bored witless, and he came back and got a job.
So he runs the butchery and the supermarket and he's

(53:59):
it's like slick as it's fantastic, but supermarkets in general,
I've never used for anything more than tins of or
bags of And if you want fresh fruit and vegies,
to go to a fresh fruit and vegie specialist. And
if you want meat, you go to a meat or
a fish specialist. Speaking of food Vietnam, the aforementioned one
hundred and seventy two million dollars is what we sold
the Vietnamese. Is that a lot sort of but only

(54:20):
three fruits. We should sell them much more. Do you
know what the boom vegetable is? Squash? We should grow
more squash and sell more squash because the Vietnamese eat
lots of it and strawberries. Strawberries are the ones to
go with anyway Vietnam are Our apples to Vietnam second
highest behind China. So that one twenty six thirty million,

(54:40):
four kiwi fruit, ten million for cherries, so there's huge
room for movement. But they from that one seventy two million,
they actually spend over three billion, three billion dollars buying
in fruit and vegetables from around the world. So that's
what we need to be into. We're alacrity. First time
I've used that word today. Ten minutes away from eight my.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
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Speaker 2 (55:04):
In the seven Away from A couple of years ago,
the new centralized polytics shut down the mains music school.
That lift a gap apparently in the tertiary system if
you wanted to study music. So former staff for studying
something called Let's Go Music. The co director is Mark Baines.
Is well, there's Mike. Very good morning to you.

Speaker 23 (55:21):
Good morning. How's it going?

Speaker 2 (55:22):
Very well? Indeed, so what are you? You are UNI?
You TICK or just a private operator?

Speaker 23 (55:27):
We're a PTE, so that's a private Tershee Education provider
and and we've just started. Yeah, we started our first
course the Certificate of Music in July.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
And you're certified by the appropriate authorities and I walk
away with a piece of paper that's worth something somewhere exactly.

Speaker 23 (55:45):
So we're we're it's actually very difficult to get accredited
by ms QA, and you need a lot of ground support.
And because we've got industry support and we've got lots
of excellent and I who are willing to testify, there
as a need. There's it's that's part of the process
to get the credited.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
Right and did was the system the TPU king and
the shambles of a centralized system. Was it the problem
within that system they weren't able to operate something? What
was the argument for killing the mains side of the equation?

Speaker 23 (56:17):
Well, it was a numbers things, but I think it
was a it was that was a convenient numbers thing
not to do along the past. It had just gone
through COVID obviously, and numbers were down at that point.
But irackly, you know, at that year twenty twenty three,
we had we had a huge intake planned and yeah,
so it wasn't Yeah, I don't want to say too much,

(56:39):
but it was probably it was probably easiest, easier to
let us go, but got flooded.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Gotta okay. So having said that, what the qualification you'd delivered?
What who is it that studies this stuff? Is this
hobby stuff? Oh I want to be a DJ, I
want to be famous all that. Or is it like
this is a career, this is my life and this
is where I'm eating.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 23 (56:58):
It is for career musicians and we do need that.
And it's difficult obviously being a musician and to make
a professional career out of it. But I guess the
certificate is a first step towards that a very long road,
and it's really just for those who you can't think,
like myself, can't think of any other career that would
makes sense, you know, for them, because they love music

(57:20):
that much. So that's it's the first step towards a career.
And obviously, well not necessarily obviously, but we're developing a
diploma that we're hopefully going to run next year and
then a course of degree. We've got a degree planned
as well, but at the same time we've got a
couple of other courses. We've got a masterclast series, and
we're hoping to get sort of like big industry players

(57:42):
to sort of do some online learning, probably pre recorded
that sort of thing with some with some you know,
face to face on a weekly basis. That can be
specific to people who need, you know, a particular service
like industry support, try and write their music or whatever,
and we do it Weekend Warrior's program as well. We'd

(58:04):
just got to start that up, which is far more
hobbyists to obviously working in the field, and they just
want to connect with other musicians and play music and
have that curated in a sense by musicians.

Speaker 9 (58:15):
A professional there you go.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
As one door closed, as another door opens. Go well it,
let's go. Music is what they're calling themselves. Mike Baines,
Is you manly five minutes away from eight? Mike, that
would be a sting here, Andy, we just do the
little thing where we're going past. That's the one there,
he goes. We export personmans to Vietnam, Mike, have done
so for the past five years. Person is an interesting thing.

(58:37):
I grow persons. When I say I grow persons, I've
got a person tree and I've had trouble with my personontree.
And when we first arrived at the property, it was
like festooned with personmans, and I thought absolutely fantastic. And
then somebody goes, what do you do with the persons?
And of course the answer is nothing. And so what
they eventually do is fall off the tree and they
roll down the hill and that's the end of them.
Earth to earth goes back to it anyway, Apparently you

(58:59):
make jem But then how many people you know who
have person and jam But you're exporting to Vietnam, So
maybe I need to get into the export business. They
pay high prices up with Thailand, which has been our
main market. For twenty years. China too difficult as their
quarantine requirements are over the top for our crop. Well,
I'm glad, I'm glad you're doing business, Mike. What country
do you live in? Well this one, bananas have gone

(59:22):
up forty cents a kilo and Woolworth's see this one.
I'm trying to say earlier on the RUGA, no amount
of evidence is going to convince you that anything's happened
outside of your mind, which says the bananas have gone
up forty cents. I can't afford groceries. It's all a
massive scandal, and it's probably Trump's fault, isn't it. That's
what you think. And I can't present any graph, chart,

(59:44):
stats or facts that are going to change your mind
on that.

Speaker 9 (59:48):
Now, Mark and Jinny.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
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Speaker 1 (59:54):
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Speaker 24 (01:00:05):
That'd be my granddaddy Rampsigne in Least, Tennessee. I guess
that's where I got my nee speed. I sell it
illegal people nomb in the air fame. I'm a little crazy,
but the world's is sing.

Speaker 9 (01:00:27):
How good is this?

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
This is the song? I keep it a load of this.
This is the song for summer. So come December January
when we pre record these pieces, and you hear me
over the summer period saying Hi, it's Mike Hosking. Hear
from us talks, but I hope you having a great summer.
My song is so this is the song of summer.
Listened to this, but you.

Speaker 24 (01:00:42):
Never know these days. I'm a little crazy, but the world's.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
In he's We got to get them back on the program, Semmi.
I talked to Semmi and your capacity as executive producer.
Boss came in earlier on and he goes on, Mike,
you've got to tell people who SEMy is. And I'm going, jeez,
I've already done this. But the Boss doesn't listen to
the show much anymore anyway, So Sam is Sammy, and
his role as executive producer needs to go. Get Morgan
Wallin on as opposed to Sammy's role as junior research

(01:01:09):
assistant and the other jobs. So multiple jobs, but Morgan
Wallin's got a new album out in it's thirty four
what do we say the other day? Thirty four to
thirty five tracks, huge number of tracks on it, and
this is a winner. This is the latest single I'm
a little bit crazy. In fact, I may play that
later on in the program. In fact, Mark and Ginny
good morning to you. If you two aren't any good,
I may end the segment early and play some more

(01:01:30):
of that and see how Yeah, absolutely, I've anyway now,
Ginny'd start with you. With Andrew Little, we talked about
it briefly or alluded to. I think it was last
week or the week before. So would you see him
winning the maryalty?

Speaker 13 (01:01:43):
Is he you?

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Forget the labor thing, but just what have you known?
Is he a good mayor?

Speaker 13 (01:01:48):
I think you would be a great mayor. People are
looking for someone decisive, who can take control, bring people
together and bring some confidence back into the Wellington area,
and I think he takes all of those boxes.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
What part of the problem though, in sprooking him the
way you just did, the fact that people don't seem to,
for whatever reason, understand that he is just a mayor
with just one vote, and unless he gets a counsel
Alione with his sort of thinking he goes nowhere.

Speaker 13 (01:02:12):
I think Wellingtonians are pretty smart. They're pretty connected into
what's happening, not just in New Zealand but the world.
And they understand that the role of the mayor is
to bring that council together. You need to have a
majority and a consensus in order to get things done,
and they've seen that that's important if we want to
see progress in Wellington.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
If Wellingtonians are smart, how do you explain tamotha Paul?

Speaker 13 (01:02:37):
Look, I'm not responsible for Tamoth and Paul.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
I've been very Wellingtonian.

Speaker 13 (01:02:42):
I don't agree with who views.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Indeed, she's got a majority of six thousand and the
Wellington Central Electorate. How do you explain that.

Speaker 13 (01:02:50):
I would have to interview six thousand people to understand that,
because I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
What do you do Mark when you've got people actively
selling T shirts to defund the police?

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Well?

Speaker 4 (01:03:02):
I mean that.

Speaker 25 (01:03:03):
I guess the question for Chris Hippins and Giny is
that they came out and said that there's some of
the issues that she raised it are valid.

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
I mean, what are they? What are the issues that
she's raised.

Speaker 13 (01:03:13):
I think the point she raised was the report that
police themselves have commissioned, which is the looking into with
these institutional bias and understanding policing delivery is a piece
of work that police themselves have undertaken and have then
found some outcomes that they do need to improve on.
So I think that's the point she was talking about.

Speaker 25 (01:03:33):
Well, on the instruction of Chris Hippins who told them
to go away and do a report on institutional bias
and racism and which our police is not.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
We do not have a racist police. Are you saying
that our police are racist?

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
I think that's what she's saying.

Speaker 13 (01:03:47):
I think you need to read that report because you're well,
it was your report.

Speaker 4 (01:03:50):
It was your report, not my report focused public safety.

Speaker 25 (01:03:54):
You are focused on the police appointing the fingers that
themselves have called themselves racist.

Speaker 4 (01:03:57):
We're focusing exactly the narrative that the Green said. So, yes,
you are aligned.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
We're focused about that.

Speaker 13 (01:04:03):
Can I speak now? Is that all right? Mike? Am
I allowed to answer? So we're focused on making sure
our communities are safe now, but also breaking the cycle
of crime. And that's the problem with this government is
they have no plan for breaking that cycle of crime.
The police undertook a really good piece of research to
where they can improve reaching into a wide range of
communities to make sure that they can police with confidence

(01:04:26):
and have the trust and confidence of communities. And if
we are serious about improving the reporting, it's a vital
that communities report crime and Mark we should know that, Mike.

Speaker 25 (01:04:37):
Can I just very quickly respond to that. If you're
talking about public confidence and police under you, guys, public
confidence of police was trending down. The latest report that's
come out around public confidence and police in the last
twel months, as it's trending back up again, so public
confidence and police is growing, and I just want to
I just want to make this point, Mike.

Speaker 13 (01:04:57):
Do you think it's because I'm understanding policing delivery Hipkins?

Speaker 25 (01:05:00):
When he came into Parliament, his letter of expectations to
the police was around doing a report on whether or
not they're racist. Our letter of expectation was to get
out there and make the public safe.

Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
That is the difference.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
I'm listening to this in the middle. I'm sitting here again,
ding ding in the middle here. Jenny. You you just
sounded to me like a university researcher, you know, And
we did a piece of work and people are just thought,
oh my god, all I want to see is some
cops on the corner and feel a bit safer on
the street.

Speaker 13 (01:05:29):
And we came out and delivered oney eight hundred extra police.
We increased investment in the police by fifty percent. Under
Mark's watch, he's delivered thirteen out of five hundred police
and we've actually seen a cut in the overall police budget.
So if you want to talk about funding the police, it.

Speaker 9 (01:05:45):
Wasn't actually.

Speaker 25 (01:05:48):
Tonight, Drew said my number one, the police were underfunded
when we came into government. We immediately put a budget March,
so I let you have your say.

Speaker 4 (01:05:57):
Let me have mine.

Speaker 25 (01:05:58):
When we come into government, there are one hundred and
twenty million dollar underfunded on the cost pressures that the
previous government hadn't done it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
We immediately did that. Any cost savings.

Speaker 25 (01:06:07):
The fifty five million dollars in cost savings went immediately
into the front line for new equipment.

Speaker 4 (01:06:12):
And by the way, we.

Speaker 25 (01:06:13):
Were two hundred understaffed when we came into government, so
the previous government allowed numbers to drop by two hundred.
We're working really hard to get above that. And at
the same time, with the numbers that we've got. We've
got crime trending down, we've got a police station opening
in Auckland Central, we've got forty percent more police visibility
and people on the beat, and we've got public confidence

(01:06:34):
coming back right.

Speaker 13 (01:06:35):
And you've got a ministerial advisory group saying that you've
lost control of organized crime with a ninety six percent
increase in me.

Speaker 4 (01:06:42):
We haven't lost control of organized crime.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
Corners you too. We'll come back with more in the moment.
Mark Mitchell, Jinny Anderson, thirteen past the.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
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Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
It be So was it sixteen past eight? Politics? When
the Wednesday Junior and Mark just real quick because I
want to move on from crime and punishment in general.
But the thing yesterday with the victims of crime, you
can't argue with stats. The stats, the numbers are down.
They've met a target. This is good. Do the gang
patch thing police like it. That's good as well. They're
getting some wins, aren't they.

Speaker 13 (01:07:14):
They've shifted to a new methodology, and given the last
release that they put out, which was from a Twitter handle,
you have to question the validity of that data. So yeah,
question the justice data because they're doing it quarterly and
it's designed to be put out annually. So it moves
around twenty eight thousand reduction in one quarter. Let's see

(01:07:37):
after a year where it sits. That's a better indicator.

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
If it sits down, will you con says that this
is the problem with being in the opposition. You've got
to criticize even when the numbers don't go your way.
If it's down, well, you can see that the gang
patch thing has worked, is working, and there are fewer
victims of crime in this community and that people do
generally feel safer on the street.

Speaker 13 (01:07:57):
If that is not just a reduction and family violence.
So that latest data showed a downturn in family violence.
We know family violence is already underreported, so it would
be disingenuous of the government to pull back from family violence.
Say this is a win as these fewer victims when
they're not actually breaking the cycle of quant crime, they're
just sweeping it under the carpet. So we need to
understand where that reduction comes from, particularly if it's coming

(01:08:20):
from family violence.

Speaker 4 (01:08:21):
So might really quickly on the numbers.

Speaker 25 (01:08:23):
We released these numbers three months in the government, which
showed that they were that increased massively, and labor was
completely solid on it, right because it fitted their narrative.
Now we release the numbers sixteen months into government showing
that we're getting a big reduction, and all of a sudden,
I know you can't trust the numbers.

Speaker 4 (01:08:41):
It's just a joke.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
Okay.

Speaker 13 (01:08:42):
Your OWNUSICE minister has said that they jump around and
they're volatile, and we need to wait for entire year,
not on quarterly data, when that data was designed to
be reported annually.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
Okay, gold Genny, I've got to change your sobject Golden
Visa's ginny. That seems to be working. You bring people
into the country five or ten million dollars. We've had
more people than we've ever had applying at the moment.
That's good for the country, isn't it.

Speaker 13 (01:09:05):
It is good, But it's the type of investment we're
seeing from that, so there's been quite a few questions
raised about whether or not that's actually going to result
in the right type of investment. We were lobbied by
those sort of investor types that they're concerned that that
won't necessarily translate into good long term structural investment in
New Zealand, So it does raise questions in that space.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
If it does, will you keep it?

Speaker 13 (01:09:30):
We want to see the right type of investment to
make sure that it's growing our economy. So someone who's
wealthy in coming in here with that passive type of
investment if it's not actually helping New Zealand here.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
But what I asked you is if they bring their
money in and it helps grow the economy, will you
keep it.

Speaker 13 (01:09:45):
I can't make policy on ZB I will always it's
an idea. If something is working and it's producing good
outcomes for New Zealanders, higher wages, better investment in our infrastructure,
of course it's a good idea.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
What we need, Mark, though, is the ability for these
people to come into the country and buy a house.
And Winston's holding you up on the houses. Why don't
you have you had a What are you going to
do about that? Because you can't have a person coming
in investing ten million dollars on a golden visa then
going straight to the airbnb because that's not what we want,
is it.

Speaker 25 (01:10:15):
Yeah, that's been raised as a legitimate issue and obviously
that will have to be worked through. But I mean,
obviously the coalition government just focused on getting good quality
foreign investments of the country.

Speaker 9 (01:10:26):
We need that.

Speaker 25 (01:10:27):
Yeah, the Golden Visa, the Golden Visa is proving to
be very effective in doing that. Labour's just arguing labors
the party, you know, it's just what I argue against
everything that we're doing as a country to try and
get ourselves ahead. And I think that's a bit rich
after six years of them and us going back with
so rapid.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
Do you, Jenny, do you trust the media in general?
What would you score be? Ten? I love them, trust
every word they say. One They're a pile of crap.
Where are you at?

Speaker 13 (01:10:54):
Look, things are changing a bit. I have to say,
like in the last couple of years of my life,
we're entering a new era. You can't rely on things
to be exactly right. And that data is a good
example of how you tell a story. So yeah, I'm
skeptical sometimes. I think it's always important that people check
what they're seeing from another source. So two sources is

(01:11:16):
always a good way of understanding what you think. It's
an accurate picture.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Where are you at?

Speaker 9 (01:11:21):
Mark?

Speaker 25 (01:11:22):
I just think that look, for us as politicians, we
have to have a relationship with the media.

Speaker 4 (01:11:26):
We have to work with them.

Speaker 25 (01:11:28):
I would hope that they are sensitive enough and have
the EQ to listen to what the public, the consumers,
the people that actually want to read them are saying,
and that they're able to bring all those journalistic skills
to be here and be able to respond to that.

Speaker 13 (01:11:41):
I think the challenges that AI bring as well. I mean,
that's a whole new kind of realm of interest.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Very good point, Mike. I saw Mark Mitchell at food
Stuffs this week with about twenty police officers. Can you
ask him what he was doing there, Frank, what were
you doing there?

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
Mark?

Speaker 4 (01:11:55):
I was getting it. I was getting a briefing.

Speaker 25 (01:11:57):
And we're working through facial recognition because I'm a huge
fan of facial recognition. Food Stuffs have been very responsible
in the way that they've tried that. It's been really rigorous,
and we're working through in os theater show as a
sign of support and solidarity in terms of rolling this out,
I think it's going to be very effective around staff
safety and customer safety.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
Good stuff. Nice to see you too, We'll see you
next Wednesday. Gimmy Anderson, Mark Mitchell Exclusive to the mic
Hosking Breakfast six twenty two.

Speaker 1 (01:12:26):
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Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
Day twenty five Mike, come out walking trying to be
positive about the world. I hope you're not outwalking in Auckland.
I think they've banned that today because of the severe
weather that's coming away. I think you need to tie
down your trampolines. The Auckland Harbor Bridge is reduced in
lanes already. I'm looking out the window at the moment
it looks to be there's a light drizzle and I

(01:12:53):
don't even know I'd call it a breeze, but apparently
they've decided to reduce the lanes down to fall. But
I don't know what you're doing out walking. I mean,
unless you're texting me from another part of the country
where the weather is not, you know, cyclonic anyway. Can
Genny not be? Can Genny be a tad more positive?
How depressing the listen it? Well, that's the opposition that
you know. It's the plant of the opposition member, isn't it.

(01:13:14):
Mike Personan's drive beautifully. Now this is good because sure
of going back to the person and people who export
up into Thailand, Vietnam, et CETERA person's drive beautifully, get
yourself a dehydrator, thin slightly thin, slice thinly and enjoy.
I might give it a go. I'm not sure I

(01:13:35):
will that I might travels return. I give you these numbers,
the busiest airports in the world, and just travel is booming.
And if I get time later and I probably won't,
but I'm reading a couple of articles in the last
couple of days the amount of investment that airlines are
making into what they call the front end of the plane,
the premium economy. Premium economy is going gangbusters all over
the world. With all the airlines, they cannot pile enough

(01:13:56):
money into premium economy. And that's before you get to
first class. Anyway, all the world's airport it's the busiest
airports in the world. They're all back. They've all got
more and more passengers each and every year. And it
just reminds me of the tourism figures that came out
this week. The government throw another thirteen million, and good
on them for doing it. We need to go, we
need to get out into the world and start promoting ourselves.
Capacities back. So it's not like it's a latic of

(01:14:16):
seats or planes coming into the country. People go, oh,
it's so expensive.

Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
No it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
I mean, yes it is. But people have the money
because they're flying all over the world. Every single airport,
the world's busiest airports, every single one of them in
the top ten, has increased exponentially. There are passenger traffic
in the past year. So i'll give you those numbers
after the news. We'll also cross the Tasman to Steve Price.
A couple of polls out. It looks like I'll be
interested in his view, but it looks like Dutton's done

(01:14:45):
for He's blown the campaign. It's a shambles and it's
Albanezy home all the way with still a couple of
weeks ago. Anyway, Steve is next for you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
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Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
Be interesting update out of Australia. If you live in
Russia and your Australian you would need to consider flying
to Serbia or Turkey to vote. This From the Australian
Embassy yesterday they've confirmed they will not be providing voting
services because the Department Foreign Affairs and Trades do not travel,
so you're not supposed to be in Russia. I suppose
there are plenty of Australians who live in Russia for

(01:15:22):
other reasons. They suspended in person postal voting collection services.
So the nearest they're offering is you can get a
direct flight to Belgrade or anchoror you'd need to be
one Australian in Russia and then be pretty exercised about voting.
To do that when you're twenty three minutes away from.

Speaker 16 (01:15:39):
Nine international correspondence with ends in eye insurance peace of
mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Would be flight's very good morning to you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
Compulsory voting if you don't go get finn Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
Now what do you do about that? If you're in Russia?
What do you do if you don't vote it? Would
they find you for I.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
Think paying the fine and be cheaper than flying to Belgrade?

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
Don't that's true? Do they ever chase people up for
not voting? And if they do, do they is it
an instant final or do you have to go through
the court process?

Speaker 3 (01:16:06):
No court processes, but it gets like a parking fine
if you don't pay it. It goes into some computer
somewhere and one day down the road the coppers will
pick you up for speeding and say, by the way,
you didn't vote two years ago. Is you're going to
go and pay your fine? Works?

Speaker 2 (01:16:20):
And do thousands of people get pinged every time you
have an election or not?

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
Really, Yeah, a lot of people do, because a lot
of people couldn't be bothered voting. I mean there's a
lot of appathy towards elections and election campaigns, and people
don't like both parties, so they simply don't vote. The
smartest thing to do is get a postal vote and
just scribble on it. That's the easiest thing to do.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
Having said all of that, I put some polling. I
didn't put the polling out. The polling's being reported this morning.
It seems Dutton's in real trouble. Is that fair?

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
I wouldn't be quite as hard as that. I wanted
to try and give you an assessment where I think
it's at two weeks days of campaigning to go this week,
then you've got Easter so no one's doing anything. Then
you've got another three days, and then he got Anzac Day.
I think he's just hanging on. I mean, look, one
assessment that I heard yesterday which I agree with. There

(01:17:15):
are seat by seat battles going on right around the
country and outer suburban areas, big cities that the polling
doesn't pick up. And I'm comparing this election to the
one where you go back to twenty nineteen. Bill Shorten
was in opposition, Labor expected to win easily, He had
the removal vans backed up to his house ready to
take over, and Scott Morrison beat him. Morrison won three seats,

(01:17:37):
Labor lost one, and Morrison just hung on to be
beaten three years later. I think that's where we're at.
If I had to call it right now, I would
say that I think within the Liberal Coalition they're probably
now starting to think, Okay, we're not going to quite
get there, but can we win enough seats to win
it in three years time. That might be a bit harsh,
but that's how I feel about it. I think the

(01:17:59):
complicating thing is all of these independents, so you've got
twelve on the cross bench, You've got all these teals
spending a huge amount of money. Who knows where exactly
that's coming from, a lot from Climate two hundred and
Simon Homes at Court. But I think the Teal polish
has worn off slightly, but they'll hang on to their

(01:18:19):
Teal seats in Sydney. I think they'll lose a couple
in Melbourne, but don't be surprised if the Lips pick
up are out of suburban sweeper seats in Victoria and
in Queensland they'll get a couple back from the Greens.
But I think they're going to fall agonizing you short,
that would be my system.

Speaker 2 (01:18:34):
Okay, good if and no one knows more than you do.
So if that's the case, does douz and then stay
versus if it's not the case and he gets cleaned out,
does he then go?

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
The problem is there's no alternative really, I mean, there's
no one on that front bench that you'd go, Wow,
they're a great perform His campaigning has been good. He's
out campaigned out and easy in terms of the way
it presenting public. He's got this sort of unfortunate Voldemort
image that people and cartoon has like to laugh about,
and that's not his fault. But fronting up to the media,

(01:19:10):
answering questions appearing to be extremely well briefed and very
honest about things. I think he's won the campaign, but
that's not going to win enough seats for the coalition
to win. And I put that down there. A lot
of his front benches are pretty weak.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
Now mid a scare which I thought was quite clever.
I mean, is that used on a daily basis, every day.

Speaker 3 (01:19:30):
Out to the op and he he has this little
trick of pulling his Medy Care card out of his
jacket pocket, flashing it around. He has his number you
taped over, which is to be fair, I guess that's okay.
This is the eight point five billion dollars where they
tipped in right at the beginning to say to everybody
you turn up at the GP, this is the only

(01:19:52):
card you need. He did this trick in Tasmania yesterday
and there was a vocaled Mark Boldock, a doctor who
runs a company called the GP Collective. Now what that
is is a bunch of GP clinics in Tazzy and
your south far as the Queensland. He stood next to
the Prime Minister nodding away sagely saying, oh, yes, it's
still going to be great. When he was asked afterwards,

(01:20:12):
is everybody going to be able to just turn up
with their Medicare card and not their credit card. He said,
quote and these are direct quotes. I think it's going
to be. It's going to be on a case by
case basis. I don't think GP practices are going to
want to go backwards to support the bulk billing scenario.
I can imagine some practices that are mixed billing will

(01:20:34):
look closely at the model and the increase and say,
will it be better or worse off for us? So
what do you think is going to happen?

Speaker 2 (01:20:42):
Interesting?

Speaker 3 (01:20:43):
I mean a lot of them are not going to
bulk build. You turn up and the GAP's going to
still be paid, and the Prime Minister's trying to tell
us that's disappeared. It hasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
It hasn't. Did We did the same thing here with
two or degree kids and they hand out money and
all that happens is in the real world, you still
pay you because the doctors can't make it work with
the amount of money that the government pays. It's always
when the case, and it will never change.

Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
Yeah, exactly. And GPS are a business. They're a small business.
You're don't remember that, and they're not going to run
a small business at a loss. And part of the
problem is you can't convince medical students who go through
their medical degrees to go and be GPS. Because they
see their surgeon mates who are operating on things like
my shoulder making five grand to fix up a torn tendon.

(01:21:28):
They go, why would I sit in the GP office
and work for less money?

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
Speaking of your shoulder, you're backfast bowling.

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
I wish it's a long haul. It's my left wing.
My left wing is in trouble.

Speaker 2 (01:21:42):
Jeez, okay, are you worried about the Russians.

Speaker 3 (01:21:46):
I don't think so. I mean, I'm very intrigued to
find out how this got lobbed in the middle of
an election campaign. I mean claims that Russia's going to
base and and they spoke about it earlier long range
bombers about thirteen hundred kilometers off the Australian mainly, and
it's been reported by Jane Defense, the Jane Defense Journal.
Now you and I are old enough to remember that

(01:22:07):
when you hear that word, you think, oh, that's pretty
you know, respected military publication. But the PNG government has said, no,
it's not true. Richard Marles, the Defense Minister, has been
quick to say, oh, I spoke to my mates in
and Gene It's not going to happen. There's something there.
I mean, you don't Jane stuff up. I mean, seriously,

(01:22:29):
they are not going to make that up. So Peter Dutton,
I think unwisely quickly jumped on it and said, oh see,
labor can't defend the country. I think you'll regret doing
that so quickly. But will establishing a rugby league team
in New Guinea stop us from having Russians on our border? Maybe?

(01:22:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
Now we'll see. I thought of you the other day
when we last talked. You're on you out of the
golf club to watch that the final of the Master.
I mean, how good did that turn out to be?

Speaker 17 (01:23:00):
It did?

Speaker 3 (01:23:01):
But did you see the Bryson Deschambeau interview yesterday where
he was asked how it went down on the course
and said, oh, I do do you? I I played
golf a lot, and I know you like golf. Who
goes to to golf in even if it's in a
competition to win the Masters and don't speak at all

(01:23:21):
to the person you're playing with. I mean I usually
spend the eighteen hole sledging the people I'm playing to
make them play worse. Why would you be silent?

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
So all mat go well, have a happy inter and
we'll see you next week. Steve Price, out of Australia
eight forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
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Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
At be Here We Go, Mike, I played golf at
a high local level, very common not to talk to
your opponent and play in your own bubble. There's no
offense intended to take it. That's my interpretation. I haven't
played golf for many, many years, but when I used to,
I because you know, we were hackers. We always played
with friends and there was a bit of a chat,
but there would be long periods where you're concentrating on
what you're trying to do and it's not really about

(01:24:02):
that anyway. He's got a sports Macro's got a sports
psychologist called Rotteller, Bob Ratteller. He's been on the radio
and Britain saying the decision didn't have anything to do
with de Chambeau, and I don't think anyone suggests it did.
That was just the game we played all week. We
wanted to get lost in it. We didn't want to
pay attention to what anyone else was scoring or shooting,
or swinging, or how far they were hitting it. We
just wanted Rory to plays game. The point is, if

(01:24:24):
you believe you're going to win, just play your game
and assume that if you do that anywhere near the
way you're capable of, you will end up number one.
It's just you and the golf course and your caddy.
I completely understand that. Speaking of sport, the Navy football
team won the Commander in Chiefs Trophy, and when you
win prizes in America, what you tend to do is
get invited to the White House. So the Navy football

(01:24:47):
team are there today with the Big Don.

Speaker 5 (01:24:49):
I shouldn't say this too loud because some people aren't thrilled,
But I'm thrilled. We have the largest budget we've ever had.
We're buying gorgeous new ships, gorgeous new and John to
be working on that. He's a great John Phelan's a
great businessman, one of the best. And you're gonna get
that job done. And we're gonna make them beautiful looking
ships too. The look is very important to me. John.

(01:25:12):
You know a lot of times they'll show me a
ship or a plane and they I say that doesn't
look good. They say, well, it's stealth. I said, I
don't care if it's stealth or not. We're gonna change
if we have to. I'm not sure I believe so
much in the stealth thing. But we want the most
beautiful equipment, the best equipment. That's what we're gonna get.
And you're gonna lead the way, and I'll help you too,
because I like doing that stuff. And we're going to

(01:25:33):
get a lot of ships, a lot of planes.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
And of course that's got nothing to do with football
at all. But the team just stands there and listens
to that. Can I just quickly give you the numbers, Actually,
I'll do it after. I'll give you the numbers on
these reports and tell you how well the the world
is doing aviationally at the moment. Nine minutes away from none.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
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Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
Speaking of Trump Mitsubishiava night. They became the first Japanese
car company to stop shipping cars to America. They joined Volkswagen, Audi,
Lotus and Jaguar Landrover So that number is growing. Eventually
there's going to be no no one left. But if
one fifties and rams, it's a car yad. So the
busiest airport's in the world ten through one. Shanghai is

(01:26:17):
number ten, seventy six and a bit million passengers. They're
up forty one percent, so don't tell me. Tourism is booming.
New Delhi seventy seven million, up seven point eight percent.
Ohair Chicago, that's up as well as Stanbul number seven,
Denver at eighty two million, London eighty three million passengers
a year up six percent, Tokyo up nine percent, Dallas

(01:26:38):
Fort Worth up seven percent, Dubai ninety two million people
go through to buy every year, up six percent. So
the world is traveling. They're paying big money and they
are traveling and they are loving it. The busiest airport
in the world is Hartsfield Jackson Atlanta one hundred and
eight million passengers, up three point three percent.

Speaker 9 (01:26:56):
Week.

Speaker 2 (01:26:57):
Poor old New Zealand still stuck sadly on eighty five percent.
Have you got before we in the show, Andy, you
got some more of that?

Speaker 3 (01:27:03):
Morgan.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
I'm just doing this out loud because obviously you haven't
saved you can just get the record out, so we'll
have it by the end of the program. That'll be
good because meantime at five minutes away from.

Speaker 1 (01:27:12):
Nine trending now with the Chemist Warehouse book in your
Flu Vaccination Today.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
So Braves Blues or the Blue Jays, the Braves Blue
Jaysu's Baseball MLIB Braves one eight four. So is that
an exciting game? Well, let's find out there's something more
interesting off the field that was going viral. Here's your
local Braves reporter Wiley Ballard Wiley.

Speaker 26 (01:27:33):
How are things up there at the Corona Rooftop. Thanks
are pretty great brand. We're having a lot of fun
off here off the Corona Rooftop. Who do we got
you wish?

Speaker 8 (01:27:41):
Your name?

Speaker 26 (01:27:41):
My name is Lauren Laurence, all right, and I'm Keayla Taylor.
And you guys hang out the rooftop lounge.

Speaker 20 (01:27:46):
Often once a year I come out to visit.

Speaker 26 (01:27:50):
Okay, Well we timed it pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
Well right, So they went back to them for some more.

Speaker 26 (01:27:57):
Okay, Walley, we got five innings, four innings to get
the numbers. Come on, come on, get us some more
Brace fans. All right, So they want me to get
your number I'm dead serious. They're saying, to my right,
I shouldn't believe me because she thinks you guys are
are not making this up. Even if you guys weren't,

(01:28:19):
I might use that in the future. That's a that's
a pretty good move. This is unbelievable. So the best
part of this right now is that while they could
totally be faking, and this might be the new move
you just walk around with a fan duel microphone and
an earpiece in and convince fans that they're actually on TV.
I should have thought of this years ago. I am speechless.

(01:28:40):
I got the number. We're good.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
So do you think that's going in front of some
sort of broadcasting commission or something like that? Wild ballard?

Speaker 9 (01:28:54):
Listen to this.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
This is just isn't this? Briolled? Andy? Andy? I introduced Andy.
I should tell you because Jason and see, I need
to introduce everyone who works on the show. Andy's what
is Andy? Andy's the technical guy's filling in for Glenn.
Glenn's a person who's been worked here for a long
time and he's on holiday. And so we got Andy.
And what's your name again? Sammy?

Speaker 3 (01:29:16):
Sam?

Speaker 2 (01:29:20):
And this is Morgan. Now I'm Mike Happy Days and
I do it every night.

Speaker 9 (01:29:27):
But no, don't change.

Speaker 3 (01:29:31):
Scared.

Speaker 24 (01:29:32):
I'm a little bit of crazy.

Speaker 9 (01:29:33):
What the world is saying.

Speaker 24 (01:29:37):
Oh, I'm a little little crazy what the world is saying.

Speaker 1 (01:29:42):
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