Full Show Podcast: 16 December 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Breakfast show you Can Trust Heather Dupacy out and
on the mic Hosking Breakfast with the range Rover.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
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Speaker 3 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
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Speaker 4 (00:13):
Good morning and welcome at seven pass six. Coming up today,
the government's taking another look at a giant one point
three billion dollar fund that we've got for domestic and
sexual violence. We're going to speak to the ministry about
what's going on there. The Trade Minister is squeezing absolutely
everything out of the last few business days of the year.
He's off to India again to try and smooth for
that FTA. We're going to get you across all the
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Speaker 2 (00:37):
After eight Heather Duplicy ol, I want to come.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
To the defense of a group of people who I
think are coppying it really unfairly when all they're trying
to do is help our capital city out. Now you'll
note you don't need me to tell you this. Wellington's
of shambles. It's in trouble and a lot of that
is caused by its own dysfunctional and innext city Council
making really really bad decisions. And there are a whole
group of people out there, and I include myself in this,
who find it sad to watch this because Wellington was

(01:02):
and can be again a really great place. It just
isn't at the minute. Some of the people who are
watching this and not just watching it and thinking how
sad it does, they actually want to do something about it.
And this includes former mayor's fran Wild, Kerry pren Degas,
the restaurant owner Mike Egan, our very own fran O'Sullivan,
and the list goes on right. They've probably got better
things to do with their lives, but they've decided they're
going to give up their time. They're going to set

(01:24):
up this set up this group called Vision for Wellington,
and they're going to lobby for Wellington. They're gonna try
to come up with ideas to try and improve the city. Now,
what do you think they've got for their efforts. What
they've got is a series of attacks from people who
are actually on the City Council trying to paint them
as right wing conspiracy theorists. Now, on the conspiracy theory part,
I don't know if any of them are conspiracy theorists

(01:45):
or not, but I do know that to portray them
as a bunch of right wingers trying to take down
the country's left wing post to child Council is deeply
unfair on a lot of them. I mean, take, for example,
fran wild Right hardly a wild right winger. A woman
was a cabinet member of the Labour Party. For God's sake,
she was so progressive even by Labour Party standards of

(02:05):
the day, that she had to fight her own party
to get them to support her homosexual reform bill back
in the nineteen eighties. Dame Patsy Really, I don't know
her personally, but if she strikes me as the kind
of person a lot of people would label the wokester.
She backed a proposal to overhaul the Nstar board and
put racial and gender quotas on it. So hard did
she back this that she threatened to resign if it

(02:26):
didn't happen. Now, somebody backing race and gender quotas does
not strike me as a wild right winger, does it you? Frankly,
the fact that these are the kinds of attacks that
these people are being subjected to just goes to show
that critics have actually got nothing better to criticize. These
people over Wellington, I would say is actually lucky to
have luminaries like these who care enough to give up

(02:46):
their time to try to help the city out. And
I would say, rather than attacking them, Wellington City Council
should be grateful for the help from people who are
frankly more capable.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
News of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
Boat crossings are up in the UK currently, but label
will not be drawn on targets or deadline.

Speaker 5 (03:04):
I don't think that people want a date snatched out
of the air, that nobody is confident that they can meet.
What they want is to see steady, regular progress.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
Now the Tories know what's to blame here. It's the
scrapping of the Rwanda plan.

Speaker 6 (03:18):
The reason those illegal and dangerous small boat crossings content
have gone up under Labor is they scrapped the Rwanda
deterrent before it had even started.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
Prince Andrew A. Moore trouble had to release a statement
after he was told about a business told about a
businessman that he had a friendly relationship with being a
Chinese spy.

Speaker 7 (03:37):
We urged the relevant parties in the UK to immediately
stop creating trouble, stop spreading the China threat narrative, and
stop underlining normal exchanges between China and the UK.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
Syrian soldiers at the moment are standing by after they
surrounded a Russian held military base.

Speaker 8 (03:53):
Oh, the location of this airport is very important, and
we've received orders to be here as soldiers want to
have any contact with them, but there might be a
coordination between them and the country's military council.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
Now, the wife of the Houston Jan six rioters convinced
Trump is going to pardon her husband.

Speaker 9 (04:09):
He never took down a barricade ever with a rifle
in his car and a protective vesse on. You know,
you can say, you know, you being from Britain and everything,
you'll have a very finicky way with guns, you know
when East Texas were carrying them in the back of
our car.

Speaker 4 (04:26):
Now, speaking of Jan six, Republicans are still exercised about
the Inspector General's report that FBI sources but no agents
were present.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
A lot of people, including the Huffington Post, including lez Chenny,
called those of us who were asking the questions nutcases,
that we were crazy for.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Even asking them.

Speaker 10 (04:44):
Well, now it appears we weren't so crazy after all.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
And finally Trump has got himself quite the scalp at
ABC star anchor George Stephanopolis has had to pay fifteen
million dollars US to Trump for defamation after he repeatedly
said an March interview that Trump was liable for rape.

Speaker 7 (05:02):
He was a course, He's.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
Not found guilty of rape. He's found guilty of sexual abuse,
which has a distinctly specific definition under New York law.
ABC is going to pay the fine plus a million
bucks to Trump's legal costs, and it will go to
the Charitable Presidential Foundation. So that'll be a win for Trump.
He'll talk that one up. And that is news of
the world in ninety seconds. Now, just in the last

(05:23):
few hours over in Europe, Israel has announced it's going
to close its embassy in Ireland, which is actually really big,
a big move from Israel on this front. The reason
that doing it is because Ireland decided last week to
support a petition at the International Court of Justice and
that petition accused Israel of genocide. Now Israel says this
is just the latest of a bunch of things, which

(05:44):
include Ireland's extreme anti Israeli policies, has just had a
guts full of it.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Now.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
What's interesting here is that there are a bunch of
other countries who also joined the same petition, and that
includes Egypt and Spain in Mexico and so on, but
Israel's not doing the same to them. Their embassy stay open.
Probably though it is what I was suggesting before, which
is just the latest thing from Ireland. It's a long
list of things that they've had a tense relationship for ages.
Ireland is one of Europe's most pro Palestinian states, and

(06:11):
as a result, Israel's just said that's it finished. Thirteen
past six.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
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Speaker 4 (06:22):
EB Hey on the drone thing that we've been talking
about a fair bit in the last week, our drones
and New Jersey flying. Nobody knows what's going on. By
the looks of things, nobody still knows what's going on,
and it is starting to freak people out. Richard Arnold
will talk us through it out of the US. He's
with us after half past six. Right now at sixteen
past little Greg Smith Everie Funds Management with us. Morning Greg,

(06:46):
Good morning, Heather, Hey, how's that immigration out of the country.

Speaker 11 (06:49):
Looking, yeah, those migration towns are certainly failing. So that's
use on report on Friday that in net migration gained
for the October twenty twenty four years thirty eight an
eight hundred. Now that's down seventy one percent compared with
the same period of year ago, which was a peak,
and you take out the COVID years, it's the lowest
since twenty thirteen. So look, there's still plenty of people

(07:10):
coming into New Zealand that's relatively high in historic terms,
but it's also down twenty eight percent on the record
levels a year ago. But departures are also surging, sob
up thirty two percent, record high one hundred and thirty
one thousand. So breaking this down here that the brain
drain continues. Kiwis we're leaving and drove still a reverse
of course what happened during COVID so and the fifty

(07:31):
three thousand kiwis leaf long term twenty five thousand came back,
but seventy eight thousand leaft, which is a record. Now
we've always been quite flighty, I suppose you'd say, but
we're increasingly seeking greener pastures. You have to look at
the drivers. It's a function the economy. People going to
earn more elsewhere and employment is rising, it's falling. As
an example across the Tasman, we've got trade's moving. There

(07:51):
is just one example, and there are some positives suppose
if you want to look at it from that point
of view, in terms of removing a source of inflationary pressure.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
There's also alleviates austraight on housing demand.

Speaker 11 (08:02):
But yeah, the no getting away from a slowing population
as a handbreak on economic growth and consumption. Current levels
were still ten thousand dolls the long term average, but
we're going to be heading below that, so look very concerning.
There's no quick fix, but yeah, it does show the imperatives.
We're trying to get the economy going gain and providing
more reasons for keys to stay than there are currently.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
Yeah too, right, would agree with you on that. Listen,
We've got another company making it into the one trillion
dollar market cap club, have we.

Speaker 3 (08:28):
Yeah, we certainly have. This is in the US.

Speaker 11 (08:30):
This is broad cons so they become the eighth company
to do so. On Friday, these shares were up twenty
four percent, earning speed upbeat Outlock. They saw revenues increase
fifty one percent to fourteen billion. So brought up as
a chip maker that made quite a few exhibitions in
recent years. That's they've become more of an infrastructure business
in terms of software and this is really paying off,

(08:50):
particularly given with all the.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
Hype and demand around AI.

Speaker 11 (08:53):
So their infrastructure software division that saw revenues of five
point eight billions that.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Nearly tripled last years.

Speaker 11 (09:00):
Look at the AI revenues they serged one hundred and
fifty percent. They're doing very well there. And they shipped
ship prints to their sort of three hyperscale customers and
I believe to be Meta Alphabet and TikTok Parent Byte Dance. Yeah,
they saw and the effect doubled in terms of year
on year. Being about the outlook, that's the infrastructure software
and revenue the current quarter a rising forty one percent,

(09:23):
AI revenues jumping sixty five percent. Investors really like that.
They do compete with AI daling and video to an extent,
but their point of differentiation in terms of broadcom is
there more expensive.

Speaker 3 (09:35):
AI chips can enable ALI.

Speaker 11 (09:37):
Infrastructure to work twenty to thirty percent faster and use
twenty five percent in this power, So that position certainly
appears to be paying off these years of more than
double in value.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
This year, Greg, what do you reckon the Bank of
England's going to do this week?

Speaker 11 (09:51):
Well, you had a bit of a bit of a
quandary really because inflation has actually gone back above their
two percent target, so at two point three percent in October,
sharpest rise in two years. You've got the new government's
tax and spinning plans and they've only added to the
ensunity around inflation. But on the other side, yeah, the
economy is really slowing. So in fact, the UK economy

(10:11):
contracted in October so and it was for the second
consecutive month it had been expected to grow. So the
climbs weaker manufacturing week of mining constructions, also lower services
secting and that used to be a real strong grower
that showed no growth during the month. So yeah, it's
hard to see the Bank of England cutting They did
already cut in August and November. I just think with

(10:32):
that inflation increase, they're going to have to just stay
where they are despite the economy. Meanwhile, you look at Europe.
They did cut rates last week and they've noted that
Trump's tariff plans could add a new layer of uncertainty,
and this is highlight of the game by the Bundesbank.
On Friday, they warned a shrinking German economy and it's
actually been estimated that Trump's plans on tariff are put
through in their current former could take one percent off

(10:54):
German economic outputs. So they could also tip Europe further
into contraction. So not great news there, and yeah, fairly
nervous times for Europe.

Speaker 4 (11:03):
Here, So all right, all right, give us the numbers.

Speaker 11 (11:05):
Yeah, so just on Friday we slipped a little bit
in terms of the Dow that was down point two
percent forty three eight two eight s and P five
hundred was flat six thousand and fifty one. Nazek up
point one two percent nineteen nine two six high helped
by Broadcom there for Z one hundred that was down
point one four percent, eighty three hundred, Nicki down one percent.
In Japan thirty nine four seventy A six two hundred

(11:26):
down point four percent eight two nine five. We had
a good day on in New Zealand, ERZX fifty was
up point five percent twelve seventy five nine. Kimmolli's Goald
up thirty three dollars two thousand six and forty eight
on ounce all down a dollar thirty seventy one spot
thirty a barrel currency's kiwi was even against the A
dollar ninety point six against the US dollars down slightly

(11:46):
fifty seven point six against sterling. We're up point four
percent forty five point seven this week. Here. They've got
plenty going on here. We've got September quarter gdp'd artists.
We'll see how economy's fairy and got dairy auction. We've
got cards spending that, we've got agms A and z's
and maybe be poor. I'm sure we got plenty of
data out from the US and also from China. But
we've got right decisions and decisions as well from the

(12:09):
BEG of Japan, Bank of England and of course the FED.

Speaker 4 (12:12):
Brilliant stuff. Greg, thanks very much, really appreciated, Greg Smith,
devon Funds Management. Just speaking of inflation inflation back here,
looks like the grossery inflation is still holding steady. We'll
talk to Brad Olson about that after half past six,
six twenty two.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
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Speaker 2 (12:29):
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Speaker 4 (12:31):
They read the drones. Obviously, the American government knows what
these drones are, otherwise they would be shooting them down
to find out. Jim, you make a very good point,
except the drones are quite big. I don't know if
you realize this, but they are six foot in diameter.
So if you're going to bring one of those guys,
those big boys down you you've got to make sure
they're not bringing them down on a house or a
car or a person. So that maybe part of the
reason why they're not shooting them down. But they do

(12:52):
say they're not from another country, so must have some idea.
Six twenty five.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
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Big Brand Vitamins.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
All right, so a film about a former US president
is using an ignominious title as a promotion. We're talking
about Reagan, about former President Ronald Reagan's rise to president
to being the president and then his most controversial moments
and so on. Anyway, that now released it overnight on DVD.
I know host or buys a DVD. However, that is

(13:23):
how you're gonna watch it. If you want to watch
you've got to find yourself a DVD player. It's going
to be a kerfuffle anyway. It's coincided. The release on
DVDs coincided with the Rotten Tomato Awards because Reagan has
earned the biggest disparity between what the critics think and
what the Rotten Tomatoes people think. So the critics have
given this film a score of eighteen percent, but the
fans have given it a score of ninety eight percent,

(13:43):
which is massive. If you missed it, here's a preview.

Speaker 12 (13:45):
You can run from a bully for so long, but
after a while, you're gonna have to stand up to him.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
There's apelled to be another war right here in Hollywood,
and Kami's on one.

Speaker 13 (13:55):
Side, the Marba in the other, and you're right in
the middle side.

Speaker 14 (14:00):
Hello, I'm Nancy Davis.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Nancy Tavis. I'm round Reagan. I'm curious, rong.

Speaker 15 (14:05):
What would you say is the issue of our time?

Speaker 1 (14:07):
No question about it, Communism and the Soviet Union.

Speaker 8 (14:11):
Ronnie, Remember when we mad you told me that you
wanted to make a difference in this world.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
You know what you have to do.

Speaker 8 (14:20):
I am about to.

Speaker 12 (14:21):
Start the biggest war of this century, and I'm not
going to fire a single shot off Tear Down the Wall.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Now the guy playing Ronald Reagan is Dennis Quaid. And
did I mention it's out on DVD? So if you're
gonna watch it, you're gonna have to go into the
attic and find the DVD player, figure out which hole
it goes in your new flat screen TV, because I
wouldn't even know where to start. And then Nie and
we'll try to find the remote, try to remember how
to turn the thing on, and then you can watch
the DVD. So enjoy yourself. Richard Arnold on the Drones

(14:51):
Shortly news talks.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
It b me used fold opinions, Heather, due to see
Allen on the Mike Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate,
your local experts across residential, commercial and rural news talks,

(15:13):
he'd be.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
Heather, I didn't realize you were talking about Reagan. I
thought you were talking about a movie about Raygan. Lord.
It's a sign of the times, isn't it. Have you
seen that the perks that the judges are getting if
you haven't wait for it and run you through them.
And just to take us twenty three away from seven King, Food,
the snow and something it looks like food prices are
still feeling a bit of the pressure, aren't they. Grocery

(15:36):
supply costs to supermarkets have gone up again, this time
by two point one percent of the month of November,
according to Infometrics. This is according to Informetrics and food
Stuff's monthly Index, and the chief executive of info Metrics,
Brad Olson, is with us.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Now morning, Brad, good morning.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
Do you worry about that when you look at this
you worried about inflation at all? Have we got a
problem like Europe? Scott?

Speaker 6 (15:57):
I don't think it's quite like Europe, Scotton, And I mean,
am I worried after the last couple of years almost always?
I think we're still quite scarred from that. There has
been a slight re acceleration, a slight change in trend,
with the grocery supply cost indecks now up two point
one percent. That's ever so slightly faster than what we
saw last month at two point zero. But to be fair,

(16:17):
the fact that we're sort of bobbling around the two
percent mark is a lot better than sort of a
year year and a half ago when we were seeing
double digit increases. So still a little bit of caution there,
and I think the big change here there has been
that go back sort of two years ago and you
had inflation across the board, just about everything was increasing
in cost, whereas now it's a little bit more specific.

(16:38):
So yeah, there's a few pockets of pressure, but it's
more on specific items or specific areas rather than that
across the board sort of hit. So a little bit
more comfort there, but still always a little bit worried
as we head into the silly season around those sort
of pressures that are out there on the economy right.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
So specifically to groceries, what's putting this up.

Speaker 6 (16:57):
There's a few things that we've seen, particularly in the
November figures, there were a few higher cost increases coming
forward for the likes of bakery and chilled goods that
seem to be driven by dairy particularly, you know, the
likes of butter and similar that has come up Internationally.
There's not quite as much milk supply into the system,
but there's still pretty healthy levels of demand, so that's

(17:18):
been pushing prices up. That of course has been good
for farmers in recent times, but at the same time
it's meaning that we're all having to pay a bit more.
The last couple of months, we've also seen the likes
of cocoa prices that have been increasing internationally because there's
been less coco being produced that's pushed prices up, and
the same with olive oil. So again a few more
sort of specifics and often around those supply and demand dynamics.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
Listen, Brad, just on the oc I've been having some
chats over the weekend with people who are involved in
retail and various other businesses, and every single one of
them keeps saying to me, this is the worst economic
conditions we've ever seen, worse than the GFC hardesting and
we've ever been through. And we're not seeing a pick
up in retail spending at the moment right, So clearly
we're an economy still under pressure. I can't help but shake.

(18:03):
I can't shake the feeling that the Reserve Bank is
making a massive mistake leaving us for three months with
the OCR setting where it is.

Speaker 6 (18:10):
What do you think, Well, I think we're actually seeing
some earlier signs of the economy packing up a bit fast.
I mean, look, it always takes time for the official
cash rate to come through, but the likes of Worldline
were reporting last week that the first week first seven
days of December did see a pickup in retail spend.

Speaker 3 (18:28):
Compared to the year before.

Speaker 6 (18:31):
The likes of card spending data out last week from
Stats in Z for November it was broadly flat, you know,
you know, there wasn't a lot of a pack up there,
but also it wasn't declining. I think the challenge, though, Heather,
is that even if the Reserve Bank moved, you know,
a huge amount more with the official cash rate, even
before this three month break that they're taking for a
lot of people, they're still locked in for probably a

(18:53):
good another six months. So unless they're going to pay
some pretty significant break free fee, you're not going to
see a.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
Huge huge shift.

Speaker 6 (19:00):
So I feel like we're trying to navigate a very
difficult position where for the next couple of months we've
got just that sort of time delay while people start
to refix. Then things will definitely come through, But until
those people make it to their next refixed point, there's
a lot of pressure, a lot of concerns still to
go under the bridge. So that's where I think that
idea that there are better economic times coming is very

(19:22):
much true, but it's just we're not quite there yet.
We're just going through the sort of the time delay.

Speaker 4 (19:26):
Yeah, good stuff. Hey, listen, thanks for running us through that.
Brad Olson, Infometric's chief executive. Andrew. Now, lord, do we
need to talk about Prince Andrew?

Speaker 2 (19:34):
What the hell is going on with this guy?

Speaker 4 (19:35):
So apparently the latest thing with Prince Andrews this has
been a huge development in the UK of the weekend
and we'll have a chat to our correspondent tomorrow when
he's with us out of the UK. He apparently got
befriended by a Chinese spy and the chap is now
banned from the UK, such as the UK government's I
suppose certainty that he is a Chinese spy anyway, Regardless,

(20:00):
as a result of that, Andrew might miss out on
the annual walk to Church and Sandringham this year. Now
for most of us, obviously, being banned from going with
your family to church would probably misbehave in order to
get that, But that for him is a really bad
thing because he needs to be seen with the Royals
to kind of justify his ongoing existence. But anyway, the
thing is, why are we even still fluffing around with Andrew?

(20:20):
Why doesn't Charles just kick him out of Royal Lodge,
ban him from anything to do with the family, and
just make him persona non grated because clearly he cannot
learn from his mistakes and he will continue to be
a massive liability.

Speaker 16 (20:31):
I ah ban him. I thought I was worried there
for a moment. You wanted a big guy with an
ax to come along in a black hood. Yeah, the
chopping block.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
Well, you know back in the old days, those aren't
available options for us anymore. We just have to kick
him out of the church. Walk right, We'll go over
to the US talk about the drones next seventeen away
from seven.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
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Speaker 4 (20:55):
Can I just give a few props to Todd McLay
who's our trade minister. He is about to make fourth
and then what I say he's about to he's actually
on his way to India if he hasn't already landed
fourth visit this year to try to get that FTA going.
We're gonna have a chat to the Indian New Zealand
Business Council chair after seven about it and just see
how things looking. Hopeful. Actually, it's looking at least hopeful
to start, so to chat about that after seven quarter.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Two international correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
Business out of the US. Richard Arnold, Morning, Richard Red Morning, Heaven.
All right, what's the latest with the drones? Yeah, we're
at this.

Speaker 17 (21:29):
Again, right, We're a story of the moment. The flurry
of drones sighting is over the northeast here, and the
seeming inability of the government to throw any on what's
going on. The head of Homeland Security Handro Mayorcus is
out today saying the government is looking into it. Beyond that,
though he's saying, well very little.

Speaker 18 (21:45):
If there is any reason for concern, If we identify
any foreign involvement or criminal activity, we will communicate with
the American public accordingly. Right now, we are not aware
of any.

Speaker 17 (21:59):
That is not satisfying people. New York's Governor Cathy Hockel
says in a statement, this has gone on too far.
It's become such a concern now that Stewart Airport in
upstate New York was shut down for a brief period
this week in amid safety concerns. These drones seem to
be flying around in significant numbers.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Is one witness.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
They keep coming and I've seen I don't even know
how many.

Speaker 17 (22:22):
I've seen today, drones everywhere one Democratic Senator Andy Kim
went out to do a drone survey, so he's serious
about it.

Speaker 8 (22:30):
We're counting oftentimes five sixths seven or more at any
given time.

Speaker 17 (22:34):
Well, he later admitted that much of what he was
seeing actually was regular aircraft, So it's getting a little
bit crazy. National Security AID John Kirby saying.

Speaker 10 (22:41):
We have no evidence at this time that the reported
drone sightings pose a national security or a public safety threat,
or have a foreign nexus. It appears that many of
the reported sightings are actually manned aircraft that are being
operated lawfully.

Speaker 17 (22:57):
Is it a bird that is the plane? Well, however,
some local officials again are not convinced by the government
assurances to.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Either lying or their incmpetent or they're bulk.

Speaker 17 (23:07):
And Senator Richard Bluminhal also is getting into the act
on this. He's what he says, the lack of information
is absolutely unacceptable. Well, New York's governor now says that,
in response to her calls for further investigation, State of
the art drone detection systems are being deployed in her state.
You know, about a million drones are registered in the US.

(23:28):
Amazon of course, has been testing ways to send stuff
to people that they buy on line, so it lands
in their front yards via drone. Can you imagine if
the skies suddenly were just filled with drones carrying pizza.

Speaker 4 (23:40):
Richard, listen, I see there's been a huge tornado in
northern California. Now that's unusual for that part of.

Speaker 17 (23:45):
The world, isn't It doesn't happen. You know, we hear
all the time how the weather is changing, and yeah,
this is different. San Francisco issued its first ever tornado warning.
This is part of the country where this is not
supposed to be. A twister has hit south of the
Bay City, near Santa Cruz is where this happened.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
There it blows Stofflates rip.

Speaker 14 (24:06):
We saw that white horror over there.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Yeah, to the air about fifteen.

Speaker 17 (24:12):
Yeah, cars were flying, A couple of dozen were overturned.
This was an F one, so afar from the biggest tornadoes,
but enough to cause some injuries, is what they're reporting.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Now you have a couple of serious injuries. One person
was transported to the hospital and critical injuries.

Speaker 17 (24:27):
You know, people in San Francisco used to earthquakes, but
this has caused some uproar. Meantime, southern California is experiencing
warmer than usual temps, while heavy snowstorms are battering much
of the US, including Lake Tahoe in the West and big,
big storms in the Midwest and northeast.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
Right now, good stuff, Hey, Richard, thanks for running us through. Appreciated.
That's Richard Arnold, our US correspondent. Listen, interesting idea from
an Auckland MP today, and this is where the event promoters,
if they're running an event and turning a buck on it,
whether they should pay the police for the security that
the Police Act providers. This has come from Greg Fleming,
who's the local MP at National MP for Mango Care

(25:04):
Care now manguke here is the electric that covers Mount Smart.
He reckons that in his electorate the cops are spending
fifty percent of their time just doing events and not
on the beat. And I'm generally cool with the idea.
If you're running a big event, you're making a lot
of money, you've got to have the police there. Then
you know, throw the coppers are fitty, do you know
what I mean? Give them a little bit of money

(25:25):
for the work then obviously not just a random police officer.
Don't give them a bribe, but give the police force
some money to cover the expenses. The problem with it
is going to be when people say, actually, nah, I
don't know, I'm not going to pay you don't send
any coppers, and then you start putting people's lives at risk,
or just maybe not their lives, but their belongings or whatever.
You increase the risk. So then if one person says no,

(25:46):
one doesn't have the police, then others may start to
follow and the whole thing falls apart. Going to talk
to Greg about that when he's with us round about
twenty five minutes or thereabouts, ten away from seven.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Heather dupery Ellen on them my costing breakfast with the Range.
It's over the lawn news top right to go.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
Here we go the perks the district court judges get
while they're in the job. Now, this came out at
the weekend, and the fact that it came out is
kind of a little Well, came out just before Christmas,
didn't it? Because they don't want us to focus on
it too much? Is the old trick, isn't it. Media
have been fighting eighteen months to get their hands on
this book of perks. It's called the Red Book. The
judiciary obviously didn't want to reveal it.

Speaker 14 (26:25):
Now I've looked at it.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
I thought, this isn't Why were you being so weird
about it? It's not that bad. So the context is
we've got one hundred and seventy district court judges, we've
got ten Environment Court judges. And look, these guys are
on a pretty good wicket on about three hundred and
seventy k and they've got a really good pension system.
But as I say, the perks of the job seem
pretty par for the course for me. Right, if they
have to move town for the job, which generally most
of them will have to, they get a bunch of

(26:47):
help to move town. So they get new carpets and
new curtains. If they're renting I suppose, or moving, get
a rental subsidy while they look for a house, get
refunded legal bills related to moving house, like the cost
of the valuation of their house, agent fees for selling
their house. Realist that agent fees reimbursed for buying the
new house, furniture moving, furniture storage. They get the installation
of a telephone paid for, Hello nineteen eighty four cool.

(27:11):
Get school uniforms for the kids paid for. They get
travel expenses and meals and accommodation included for up to
three months if they haven't been able to find a house.
They also get one thousand dollars advance if they're short
on cash, which I really doubt that they are on
that kind of a money, but anyway, they have to
pay that back if they do take that. They get
their gowns for free, you know, their dress up garb,

(27:31):
which I think is fair enough. That's like if you
work on the side of the road, you get yourself
a hiver's vest for free. Shouldn't have to pay for that.
Get a cell phone, get some money towards the cost
of installing Wi Fi at the house. Get a per DM,
blah blah blah. Probably one of the more controversial things
I would imagine is that when they have to go
away for work, so let's say they're based now in Timaru,
I don't know, and they have to go to Southland
for whatever reason, they get a per DIM for going there.

(27:54):
And get a daily expense. And if they are away
for more than two days, and you know you can't
be away from am missus for more than two days,
then the missus gets flown out and she also gets
a per DM. They get business travel if they are
more than four hours membership of the carew club seven
weeks and you'll leave. I don't think it's that controversial.
I think the dumbest stuff are things like three hundred
dollars for glasses or contact lenses and an annual medical

(28:17):
which they could probably pay for.

Speaker 16 (28:18):
But the reason justice was supposed to be blind, the
reason licensed to tell Dan jokes.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
I've got two licenses.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
You are you are more than welcome to because why not.
It's the end of the year. You've got to remember
these guys were working for outfits like Bell Gully and stuff, right,
so that you got to entice them over with a
decent package. Anyway, we'll talk to retired District Court judge
after half past seven. You welcome to away in nine, two,
nine and two on that right now, it's four away
from seven.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
And the outs.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
It's the biz with business fiber, take your business productivity
to the next levels.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
Wow, we're using a lot of Internet more than ever before.
Chorus looked at it found that the busiest day on
the ultrapast broadband was November. The second three big things
happened that day the Jake Paul versus Mike Tyson boxing fight,
so we lapped that up. But also maybe it was
poorly formatted on Netflix, so it just sucked up a
lot of extra internet unnecessarily Day three of the Indian
New Zealand Test and Mumbai as well that was streamed

(29:12):
on Sky's apps, so a lot of internet there. And
then gaming was the third and probably most important part
because there was a major Fortnight update that way, too
many of us downloaded. It was the most data heavy
event of the day. In fact, Fortnite fourteen of the
seventeen biggest Internet spikes of the year because people were
either updating Fortnite or playing Fortnite. Also, the All Blacks

(29:33):
Japan game on October twenty six and the Blues Brumby
semi final on June fourteenth were big. Get this Whykatl
district uses the most data per month. The average household
uses nine hundred gigabytes per month, which is forty seven
percent above the national average. Forty seven percent. What are
you doing?

Speaker 16 (29:53):
Well, it's Hamilton, the City of the Future, the tron Oh.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
Okay, that makes sense. They're updating us for the future,
all right, Karen sure Next on what she's going to
do to get rid of domestic and sexual violence in
the country. News Talks EB.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
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Speaker 4 (30:20):
Good morning to you at seven past seven. Now on
domestic and sexual violence, the government's taking another look at
a massive fund one point three billion dollars that set
aside to deal with this. They have a plan to
prioritize fewer things and do them well instead. Are the
Minister for Prevention of Family and Sexual Violence crentsur Is
with us now morning.

Speaker 14 (30:36):
Karen Monty, How are you going.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
I'm very well, thank you. What are the things you
think you need to prioritize?

Speaker 14 (30:43):
So, yeah, this was off the back of the first
Action Plan, of course, which we learned trying to deteromin
many things all at once and doing nothing well was
not not working out for us. So we decided that
we needed to be more focused, more streamlined, and working
on making sure that we're investing and commissioning well when

(31:06):
we're looking at these services across the sector, across agencies.
We spend one point three billion dollars in this area,
and we need to make sure that every dollar is
actually making a difference in these people's lives, working towards
breaking that cycle of harm. We talk about generational harm
here and we need to step in and make sure

(31:27):
that it doesn't continue in our next generation has a
better chance at life.

Speaker 4 (31:33):
Is it possible that you might cut some spending out
of this fund.

Speaker 14 (31:38):
It's not looking about cutting the spending, it's looking about
making sure that that spending is making a true change
and making sure that we're actually measuring the outcomes of
that change. So that was an important part of this plan.
How do we measure what good looks like so that
in a few years time, when we're looking back, we

(31:59):
actually know that we've made a change.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
Are we seeing any improvement because this fund has been
around for a little while now we see any improvement
from it, yet, probably.

Speaker 14 (32:08):
Not as much as we would have liked. But that's
because I think agencies haven't worked together as well as intentions,
but now every agency, every minister is on board. We've
aligned this plan with other agencies approaches as well, so

(32:29):
we're all on the same page, and we've aligned it
with our government priorities around reducing child youth offending and
reducing violent crime. But also the other important part of
this plan is it's about having a proper discussion. It
actually includes sexual violence in this plan because that's a
scourge on our society that we don't talk about often enough,

(32:52):
that causes real harm and long term issues for people
in this country.

Speaker 4 (32:57):
Karen, Are those boot camp kids still behaving themselves?

Speaker 14 (33:01):
Oh yep. And I'm actually really proud of what the
young people who are out in the community trying to
change their lives around are actually doing. They're working really
hard with their family to turn that corner and I
wish them well.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
Yeah, thanks very much, Karen, really appreciate that. Karen, you're
the Minister for Prevention of Family and Sexual Violence. It's
ten past seven. There are only a few business days
of the year left in our trade ministers not wasting
any of them. He's winging his way to India again
to work on that free trade deal. This is his
fourth visit just this year. The chair of the Indian
New Zealand Business councilor is but Chlahi. Do you think

(33:40):
the Indian government's going to be impressed with his persistence?

Speaker 19 (33:44):
I think that's good.

Speaker 20 (33:45):
It's a good momentum which even government is showing and
the Trade minister is going again and again. That is
needed and that is something positive direction what we're going in.

Speaker 4 (33:54):
Ten days ago, Winston Peters said that we might be
able to announce the start of negotiations which does show
some progress. Is this what you're hearing?

Speaker 20 (34:03):
Yes? And that is of hearing from the Indian side also.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
Okay, So what happens when do we announce the negotiations.

Speaker 20 (34:09):
I think to be honesty negotiations or the industry efforts
are going on though ideas are now kind of more
working towards a good relationship or approach where we can
announce some kind of positive movement towards a kind of
compresive agreement or a trade agreement what minister's saying. So

(34:30):
I think something around when we talk about first quarter
to second corner, we will get some kind of movement
or attention from both the governments.

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Okay, and then in this in any kind of FTA
that we start going into. Do we just need to
give up on dary? Is that just a pipe dream
from us?

Speaker 3 (34:46):
No?

Speaker 20 (34:47):
I think there is the integral part of the new system.
And again India, it doesn't say that we don't want there.
They just want to make sure that we are into
a process where what all can we give? And there
is one part of the direction. Again, there can be
multiple structures in place. How there it can be useful
and positive in the direction.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
Brilliant stuff. Hey, thank you very much about it. I
really appreciate about it. Taller, Indian New Zealand Business Council chair.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Heall do for see Alan, was anybody convinced.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
By Karen Schuwa's are yep? That was the kind of answer,
you know when you say to your husband, did you
take that letter round to my mum's house and drop
it off the one that she was expecting? Are yep?
And then he just sticks it away somewhere where. No,
you'll never find out that he didn't. That was that
it was like, Yep, kids are behaving themselves, Yep, no

(35:37):
problem at all, Yep. Making a phone call immediately Listen,
this is a big week to find out just how
things are going in the economy. I mean, we've all
got vibes about how it is at the moment, we've
all got feelings, but to get a real sense the
numbers behind what's going on. So tomorrow we've got three
days in a row of economic data that we're looking for.
Tomorrow we're going to find out how stuff the government's
books are. And it's not a question of are they stuffed,

(35:58):
It's absolutely yes, they are stuff house stuffed. Because we've
got the half year economic and fiscal up at the
HAIFU tomorrow, probably expect the surplus to be pushed back
by another year again. Wednesday, we've got the balance of payments.
It's going to show a deficit. That's no surprise. It's
always in a deficit. It's just a question of how
big the deficit is. Thursday's the big day and the
most important day arguably because we're going to get the

(36:20):
GDP numbers and everybody's saying it's going to show we're
in recession again. So we'll look forward to all of
those things and then we'll try to cheer ourselves up
before Christmas. Say, thirteen past seven, the.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
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Speaker 4 (36:37):
Sixteen past seven. So here's a question for you. Okay,
should event promoters pay police to turn up at whatever
it is, whatever the event is that these guys have organized.
The question has been raised by an Auckland MP who
reckons the constables and his electorates his electorate are sometimes
spending fifty percent of their time not patrolling the beat
but patrolling the sidelines instead. Now that MP is Greg

(36:58):
Fleming from Manga Kek who's with us.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Now, Hey, Greg, good morning here.

Speaker 4 (37:02):
So are you talking about events at Mount Smarter or
is it more than just that?

Speaker 21 (37:06):
It's more than that. Yeah, so obviously that's the venue.

Speaker 13 (37:10):
That's local to us.

Speaker 21 (37:10):
But yeah, it's right across the right, across the area
and it seems to be disproportionately affecting the front of
the community officers. So we've got a couple of ones
who are focused in our community of any hunger. And
they were the ones that raised us with me when
I asked them one night, had long with an MP
where they had been patrolling that night, and they said,
they've been here, as you said, patrolling the warriors. And

(37:32):
so the more we've locked into it, the more I've
realized that it's not Yeah, it's not nice tolated an
incident at all, but we need to need a little
law change in order to in order to change that.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
And so how much would you expect people to pay?

Speaker 21 (37:46):
Well, the math that we've run on the back of
the envelope at this stage because they've been focused more
on tim the legislative change, it could only be a
dollar per ticket because essentially what you're talking about is
that the change would be constrained through really large events.
So a you're talking for the forty fifth thousand people
at a music or a sports content venue, and then
the cost of that on an hourly basis based on overtime.

(38:07):
And this is the key thing. So what the law
change would do is it would allow police to be
able to charge an event organizer for delivering police and
from that and they'd keep that revenue in a separate
poll which they could then use to pay off time
off duty officers. So we'd have would have the double whammy.
Number One, most importantly, we'd keep our local bobby sexually

(38:29):
on the front line. Secondly, it would allow off duty
officers to earn some overtime.

Speaker 4 (38:34):
Is Mark, what you're okay with us?

Speaker 21 (38:35):
Have you talked to him about Yeah, yeah, he's very
supportive of it. The key thing is going to be
to see where it is room on the on the
government's legislative agenda to get it through. So that's why
in the meantime I've put it into the Private member's
bill so that I can I can process the idea
and then we'll see how we can actually get What
would you.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
Do, though, Greg, here's the problem with it, because I
think it sounds like it's a winning idea. But the
trouble is what if Mount Smart is like, Nah, not
going to pay, then what do you do as the police.
Do you go I get fine call, you get no
policing and therefore people are at more risk at the event.
Or do you just go oge fine, We'll do a
free bee for you because you're being a pain.

Speaker 21 (39:11):
Well, this is why they just sort of change was needed.
When I first looked at it, I figured that there
was something in our law that police couldn't charge the services,
and then I found that in twenty sixteen we actually
did pass the piece of legislation and the Police Cost
Recovery Act which allowed them to do it, but they
just hadn't applied it to event so it was just
mainly around police bessing. And then however, then we dug
deeper and realized that actually the actually could be based

(39:32):
on the UK experience of exactly what you just described.
So an event organized would say, well, I didn't ask
your police to come, so you can't charge me for it,
and the courts recently upheld there. So what my law
change would do would make a special category making it
clear that just because there is also a public benefit
attached to it, it doesn't mean that you can't charge

(39:53):
private benefit. So police would say, yeah, if you have
a certain size, we need to have police there in
terms of public safety. That's also going to accrue a
public a pretty significant private benefit to you guys. That's
going to impact on our policing on the front line.
So we're going to ask you to contribute to that.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
Good stuff. Greg, thanks very much, appreciate it. Great Flemming,
the national MP for Maong the kicka Hey, somebody text
through before it said we get a glasses allowance if
we work at the Ministry of Justice. This is not
even a judge, just a staffer glasses allowance and one
hundred dollars wellness allowance, And so I take them back said,
what's a wellness allowance? Well, that could be going to
the doctor or the nutritionist or whatever you can use
it for that. Talk about this after half past seven,

(40:31):
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Speaker 2 (41:46):
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Speaker 4 (41:48):
Seven twenty three. Should we try that again? We'll try
that again. Ah that was by the way. I know
it's amateur hour here with me. Not nothing to do
with me, Nothing to do with me seven twenty four. Now,
now let's do the Politician of the year, right. It's
this time of the year where it's traditional for the
political commentators to pick the person that they think has
done the best out of politics. And interestingly I saw
the weekend this past weekend the Herald went for Simeon Brown.

(42:09):
Now I agree Simeon Brown's right up there. I mean,
there is a reason he's called golden balls, apparently by
his Caucus colleagues. But I don't think Simon is the one.
I think the honor has to go to Erica Stanford
this year. And as far as I'm concerned, it's not
even a competition. It's Erica all the way. No disrespect
to Simeon, because Simeon is fixing up a bunch of
stuff that really really desperately needs fixing up, like speed

(42:29):
limits and the potholes and Wellington City Council and the
speed bumps and Transpower not wanting to tell us that
they pulled the pilot, the nuts out of the pilot,
and et cetera, et cetera. And he's done it without
causing days of drama, do you know what I mean?
He's pretty decisive, really makes mistakes, He's just he tied
his it up and you get the impression he's absolutely
not taking any bs from the public officials behind the scenes.

(42:50):
But this is pretty regular running a government type stuff, right.
Erica Stanford, though, has done something really special this year,
which is that she's banned the phones in school. Now,
I don't blame you if you think, well, that's not
even a thing. Sounds a bit silly, right, It's going
to sound silly to some people as a reason for
picking her as the Politician of the Year, But that
will only be if you do not understand how distracting

(43:13):
and addictive these phones are in school time, and how
much they were hurting kids' grades, how much they were
hurting kids' social skills, and how much they were hurting
kids ability to just be kids at school like we were.
Do you remember the thing is do you remember before
she did it, we ridiculed her for it, right, and
we said it's not going to work. Now, go and
find me a teacher who doesn't think it's a wild success.

(43:33):
This is so important what she's done that international experts
who study the impact of phones on kids say this
is about one of four things that have to be
done by countries to help kids out. And she's done it.
She didn't have to be bagged, don't have to be
cajoled and to do it, and she just did it.
Watch the impact this is going to have on a
generation of kids. As far as I'm concerned, no politician
has made a call this significant for a group of

(43:54):
people who are this important all year. Kids are the
most important, So never mind any of the other stuff
that she's done like the State Abuse inquiry and she's
done pretty well there. Phone ban alone makes her I
reckon the MVP of twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
Ever do for Cee Ellen?

Speaker 20 (44:09):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (44:09):
You want to?

Speaker 4 (44:10):
You want to you want to know what the judges
are up to have listened to this? Okay. There is
a chap called Carresa Alvi Anderson who just faced court
for his ninth drink driving offense. Carrisa had his sentencing.
He should go to jail for this by the third time,
you should be going to jail. This is his ninth,

(44:31):
so definitely going to the slammer. Any So, anyway, he
was before a judge and he was told, no, no,
don't worry about it. We're not going to sentence you
right now because otherwise, whoopsie, sad face, you're going to
spend Christmas in jail and we don't want that. So
we're going to postpone the sentencing to April. This is
going to give him some time for rehabilitation. What he
did was he in a bunch of his mates. They

(44:52):
were absolutely shickered on the fourth of March this year
try to get into a bus in Auckland Central. Told
they were too drunk to drive to get on the
who drank to even be on the bus, So they
tried to nick the bus. As a result of that,
all the people sitting on the bus. He got off,
He tried to drive the bus, couldn't drive the bus,
got off, left the bus without a handbrake. Bus that
a rolling back stopped itself. Thank god. Anyway, went before

(45:13):
the judge. Judge said no, there's a very good chance
you're spending Christmas in prison. Some people would say you
deserve that, even though postponing the sentencing is not without risk.
We're going to do that for you. More on that
and just to just hang on us talks EB.

Speaker 2 (45:35):
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Speaker 4 (45:45):
B Heather banning cell phones and schools versus bringing the
treaty bill into the public conversation. It's not even a debate.
David Seymour's my politician of the year by a country mile. Look,
I would agree with you. That's actually quite That's a
ballsy thing for him to do, and that takes a
lot of courage. However, David has made a few mistakes
this year that kind of pull his overall score back
a wee bit, including.

Speaker 16 (46:06):
As far as I know, he doesn't play the bassoon either.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
Does she play the bassoon? Come on here, does she
play the bason?

Speaker 16 (46:12):
That should be the reason that she's everybody's favorite politician
above all. Oh man, we have got some homewek to
do in the n Wow, what.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
A weird thing to do with your life. Play the bassoon?
That would appeal to about five people in the country,
including Glenn. Anyway, so David Symour doesn't play the basoon.
That also pulls back his overall score somewhat. So still,
I still think Erica wins. Hither who is the judge?
I'm gonna tell you who. That judge is My least
favorite judge in the whole country. So we're gonna deal

(46:43):
with this very shortly twenty two away.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
From mate, Yes nuts mosted.

Speaker 4 (46:49):
The past eighteen months, journalists have been trying to get
speaking of judges, trying to get holds their hands on
what's called the red Book. Now, this is a list
of perks that district court judges receive, and it's all
courtesy the tax payer only agree to release it. On
top of the three hundred and seventy thousand dollars salaries
that the judges get. Has been revealed. We're paying relocation costs,
new carpets, new curtains, real estate fees, school uniforms, CODO

(47:10):
club partner allowances, a whole bunch of other stuff with
me now is retired District Court judge Rosemary Radale Hay Rosemary.

Speaker 22 (47:17):
Good morning, Heather, how are you very well?

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Thank you?

Speaker 4 (47:20):
This list seems entirely reasonable to me for the job
that these guys are doing. What about you?

Speaker 22 (47:25):
Absolutely there are costs that are available if you're relocating,
and some judges are and some things you don't get.
Of course, that's just the whole gamut of what's available.
But judges in many cases have to move from one
end of the country to the other, so I don't

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see anything unusual in that.

Speaker 4 (47:47):
The only thing that I would probably quibble with is
why it's necessary to fly your wife or girlfriend out,
or husband for that matter, after only two days of
being in another city.

Speaker 22 (48:00):
We sometimes a judge goes to another court and they
might be there for some time. If it's a jury trial.

Speaker 19 (48:05):
And it goes on and on.

Speaker 22 (48:06):
So I think I think it's quite reasonable. If if
that's the case, wouldn't you extend.

Speaker 4 (48:14):
It on two days? Then, Rosemary? I mean I think
I think at two days, we're probably happy for the
break from our partner, aren't we.

Speaker 19 (48:21):
Well, you might be.

Speaker 14 (48:23):
I wasn't after five day.

Speaker 4 (48:25):
I mean, I just wonder if maybe after you know,
you extend it to be a bit more reasonable. But also, look,
the thing is, what's going to happen is people are
going to go through the list, they're going to compare
it to what they get, and it's going to be
a whole lot more generous. Right, So would the smarter
thing from a PR perspective not be to scrap all
of the stuff and just build it into the salary.

Speaker 22 (48:47):
That sounds easy, except that there's arrangement that's been in
place for judges who've been judges for a long time,
and you don't scrap that to people who are existing judges.
And then there's judges who've been appointed I think it's
twenty nineteen, and their expenses arrangement are slightly different, so

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you could give them a whopping salary.

Speaker 13 (49:11):
What's the difference.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
Well, the difference is that we don't go through a
salary is just a salary. You don't go through the
list and feel envious.

Speaker 22 (49:22):
Well, people might then be envious about the salary.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
Undoubtedly they will, but they get it over and done
with in one fell smooth, don't you think?

Speaker 22 (49:29):
Oh oh see, yeah, well, if we got to make
people feel better, is that.

Speaker 14 (49:33):
What this is about?

Speaker 4 (49:34):
Those? Basically, hey, what about the sabbatical?

Speaker 3 (49:38):
Right?

Speaker 4 (49:38):
So after five years in the job, judges of the
old contracts get a sabbatical of twenty weeks, which is
five months, and nowadays they only get a sabbatical of
about oh I think it's three and a half months
or something like that. What do they do with their sabbaticals?

Speaker 22 (49:51):
They can do whatever they like. Some judges choose to
go to other countries, do a research project, go to
the university. Some choose to take time out. It's entirely
up to them. It's not a requirement to go and
learn some more about.

Speaker 19 (50:09):
Being a judge.

Speaker 4 (50:10):
Hey, Rosemary, thank you so much. I really appreciate your expertise.
It's Rosemary Ridell, retired District Court judge. So what happens
with the partner is if the judges. We don't know
how much the district court judges are getting, but if
it's anything like the higher court judges, like high courts
judges get when they go away on work and they
have to get sit in a different court or whatever
it is, they can claim two hundred and forty bucks
a day for their per diem, and then after a

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couple of days they can fly the boyfriend out, and
then they can claim ninety six dollars per day for
the boyfriend. I think two days you can go without
your partner. I think when it starts getting into like
a week or two weeks, then I'm okay with flying
them out. Anyway, Okay, listen, here we go on this
business of old mate who tried to neck the bus
and then got himself a little reprieve. The judge is

(50:52):
clear Ryan Claire is the one who went, I don't
want to put you in jail for Christmas. Na, I'll
give you some time until April to go and your rehab,
and then we'll put you in jail. So anyway, watch
out on the roads in in case old mate is
out drink driving again for his tenth time, which is
entirely plaus We're given that he's done it nine times. Anyway,
Claire Ryan is my least favorite judge in the entire

(51:13):
country because Claire Ryan is the one who gave the
Albert Park rapist a bit of a reprieve. Do you
remember that story?

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Guy?

Speaker 4 (51:20):
We won't go into the details, but happened in Albert
Parker was a couple walking down through Albert Park and
this guy got involved with them, and anyway, the poor
woman ended up being raped. She started Claire Ryan with
a sentencing period of eleven years and three months for
this chat for everything, like at knife point. It was horrific, right,
eleven months, three years by the end of it. She
checks them in jail for two years, two months and

(51:41):
one week and at the time she's like, oh, someone's
gonna appeal it, aren't they. Yeah, they are going to
appeal it. So I went to the High Court. High
Court judge was like, no, this is not at all
how it should be bumped up, old mates sentencing from
two years, two months and one week to three years
eleven months. You may as well round that up and
say it's four years. Anyway. So Claire Ryan seems to

(52:01):
me to be something of a soft touch I'm not
a huge fan of this, so we did a little
Google search just find out a little bit about Claire.
Claire is also an amateur astronomer, theology teacher, and activist.
And I just want to know more, don't you. I
want to know more about this. So it feels like
this may be an interesting little side story. Watch out
on the Roads for old mate with the drink driving problem.

(52:24):
Sixteen away from Ape The Vike.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
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Speaker 4 (52:31):
That'd be here the wy on Earth, didn't the judge
order home detention where a breach would trigger jail time.
I don't know, Dean, you could probably take your job
at this rate and the way you're coming up with
better ideas. Thirteen away from AE. So we got the
finalists this time of year, isn't it? Finalists for Quote
of the Year?

Speaker 16 (52:46):
Is that.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
From Massi University. I'm going to go straight to quote
number two.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
Let's be clear.

Speaker 13 (52:54):
You know, I'm wealthy, I'm sorted.

Speaker 4 (52:58):
I don't want to brag, but I was there when
he said that, Like I was literally here. I was here,
and he was there in that chair and he said
it and I'll be completely honest. You didn't even strike
me as a big dealer. He said it, and I
was like, in fact, you are wealthy, you are sorted.
Everybody else flipped their lids about it, and it kind
of took me by surprise. But anyway, he's in there.

(53:18):
He's in there with that quote, which has kind of
got something to do with me, So I like it.
Ruby Tooh, he's in there for chatting to King Charles
at Buckingham Palace and you've got a love room out
they have for like three rugby It's okay. I think
the better one was when when she first met him
and the first words she says to the king of
her country because he is cheers mate, sup ge? How

(53:41):
are ye? I think that one should be there anyway,
In a similar vein after they gave him that big hug,
there was a quote from one of Ruby to his
teammates and I felt like he needed and I think
we all felt like he needed the hug because we
all saw how bad he was looking after the cancer treatment.
Heaps of the quotes this year, I'm disappointed and I
feel like they're just rubbish. There was the cock at
the Portado a police station. There was the Olympian complaining

(54:04):
about his mattress at the village I've been sleeping on.
There was the Crown solicitor after Polkinghorn got the not
guilty verdict.

Speaker 13 (54:13):
Is it a difficult case for me?

Speaker 4 (54:14):
It was a difficult case for everybody. It wasn't a
difficult case for the hook who didn't show up anyway.
David Seymour on why we shouldn't ban Nazi symbols and salutes.

Speaker 16 (54:23):
I hate those symbols and salutes, but I quite like
knowing who the idiots and society are.

Speaker 4 (54:29):
I mean, their call, but it's just like just a call,
isn't It's not that big a deal. But here's the
one I reckon should win. This is my one. This
is my pack for the best quote of the year.
Jerry Brownlee just giving up when he saw the Maori
party getting up to do the hooker. Did you hear it?

(54:49):
He goes, don't do that, don't do that, And the
look on his face, you got to see it with
the face as well, He's just like, oh, don't do that.

Speaker 19 (54:59):
You know.

Speaker 4 (54:59):
It's like he's like the mum of a three year
old who's just watched the three year old tap out
the toys out of the little toy bag like seven
hundred times today and you've cleaned them up every single time,
and he does it again, and you go, oh, just
don't don't do that. You're just like ah, and you know,
you know, his energy level is flatlining at that point. A.
He just can't be bothered. He just he doesn't want

(55:22):
them to do it. But because it's so much admin,
so much admin after they do the hacker, but he
can't stop them, and all he can do is go
Jerry Brownie. However, even though look, I'm gonna go self
interest here, even though Jerry is obviously no, don't do that.
The quote of the year. If you go and vote
for Luxen, I'll pay you some money because then I
get something out of it, because then I can claim

(55:43):
credit even though I did nothing and didn't even realize
it was a big deal. I'm going to pretend I
did ten away from mate.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
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Speaker 4 (55:54):
Dogs, there'd be seven away from it. Hey, how's this
for caring about your fans? A Auckland Football club setting
up a group it's a fan representative group, And basically
the point of the thing is to get feedback from
fans and people who go along to the matches on
how to make the experience even better. They've already got
a chair for it. It's Tim Adams and he's with
us now.

Speaker 23 (56:11):
Hey Tim, Hey, how's it going?

Speaker 4 (56:13):
Very good?

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Thank you?

Speaker 4 (56:14):
So how does this work? If you go along to
a match can and you think, oh, that would be
better if the hot dogs came by every five minutes
or whatever. Could we just drop you a line and
give you that feedback.

Speaker 23 (56:24):
Yeah. So each club has a fan feedback form which
asks for feedback for anything about the about the game, transport, food, hostility,
entertainment in that stuff. So one of those forms out
and then it goes to the club and the club
give that to us as a committee and we have
look at that and see what areas you want to
try and improve on.

Speaker 4 (56:44):
How much power have you got? Like if I wrote
to you and I said I don't like going to
Mount Smart and I'd much rather go to Eden Park,
you pull that one off.

Speaker 23 (56:52):
Probably not, but I mean put it in if you want.
I think those things are I mean we're starting out,
we're early, early, early doors, but I think those things
are good to know in the long term because you know,
the group will want to know what fans feel about
the stadium.

Speaker 4 (57:08):
Have you got have you got anything coming in just yet?

Speaker 23 (57:11):
Yeah, we've We've had an artificial survey to members only
for the first two games while this was getting set up,
and we've seen a bit of stuff in there about
hospitality and entertainment for those first two games. So it
was good to sit down at that and look at
those at the meeting and talk about, you know, where
we are in terms of those things versus other other

(57:31):
other places.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
Anybody raised the Mounts Smart versus Eden Park thing.

Speaker 23 (57:36):
Ah, there was a bit of people saying Mounts Mu's
hard to get to.

Speaker 14 (57:42):
Him.

Speaker 23 (57:42):
No, not just you, but I think you know, at
the moment, it's a good size for what we're doing
and you know, a great atmosphere. So I think those
those fears maybe once you get to a game, will
be dispelled a bit by some of those members.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
Tim Listen, this is a fantastic idea, and especially at
the time where everybody's sort of fighting to get the
fans to you know, to engage with various sports. Given
there so much that we can get engaged with at
the moment. Whose idea is this? Is this a you
guys thing or an A League thing.

Speaker 23 (58:10):
It's part of the participation criteria for the A League,
so every A League team has one and then there's
a group of all the chairs that on a league
wide f I g to then talk to the A
League directly about things, which is exciting, But I think
it's from white experience so far, or can I see

(58:31):
are very genuine with their need and want to listen
to their fans. They've been very, very upfront and very
receptive to ideas, so I think whilst it's something they
had to do, certainly a lot of tech block gets
size from that.

Speaker 13 (58:43):
Point of view.

Speaker 4 (58:44):
How stressful was that game last night?

Speaker 23 (58:46):
Ah, yes, sir, that was That was definitely what I
call a league classic. Had a bit of everything, did it?

Speaker 4 (58:52):
What did you know that? Did you did you feel
had you given up? Like had you left your seat?
Kind of thing? And then in the last five minutes
realize actually you didn't need to give up home.

Speaker 23 (59:02):
Well, I mean, as a football fan you always know
this time and I think you have shown a bit
of character scoring on a late goal. So I was positive,
but you know, a bit nervous.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
Yeah, a bit nervous. Tim, Thanks very much, good luck
with all the fan feedback. That's Tim Adams, chairman of
Auckland f c's fan representative group. If you didn't watch
the game last night, what happened was that Melbourne were
leading for the vast majority of it. In the last
five minutes of stoppage time, Auckland FC managed to equalize
and so it was two too, and so they still
haven't lost. They've had basically wins in one draw. But

(59:34):
there was also the own goal. Now the own goal,
I mean there are own goals and then there are
own goals, and that was one of those. It was
one where the guys were like, oh, hold on, they
just kick the ball backwards to the to the you
know how they do that. They turn around. It's a
weird thing they do in football, turn around, kick the
ball backwards to the goalie and the goalie picks it
up and sort of punts it down the park. Except
the goalie just let it keep going and it went

(59:55):
straight into the goal, didn't it. Anyway, We're going to
talk to the commentary box about that next they are
with us, and also what's going on with Liam Lawson
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Speaker 6 (01:00:21):
Sprung Roomb.

Speaker 8 (01:00:26):
No run, come.

Speaker 9 (01:00:28):
Banda Carper take the ball by the Haunted New Zealand.

Speaker 13 (01:00:33):
For the first time they win in Wellington.

Speaker 2 (01:00:38):
Bet to bet to feats for the Phoenix and that
is full time.

Speaker 13 (01:00:43):
A quite remarkable afternoon.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Whither heats in Melbourne orfen to Winnick Street stops at six,
but they preserve their unbet run.

Speaker 24 (01:00:55):
They'll lowd Kaine Williamson goes past fifty yet again. Avenger, Well,
let this one go and then we'll do it for today.
Day two of the tests comes to an end, the
New Zealand's lead by three hundred and the four team
runs with seven wickets in hand.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
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Speaker 4 (01:01:23):
Yeah and as with them, by the way, a pass eight.
As with every Monday, we have Guy Hevelt and Andrew
Saville with us. Hello, lads, right, are we excited about
this this test? Or are we just can we say
that we're redeeming ourselves guy? Or am I overdoing it?

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
No?

Speaker 19 (01:01:41):
I think they can to an extent. It is a
dead rubber, obviously, and they have blown the series in
the first two games, which was massively disappointing, but they
finally batted well in their first innings and they're going
okay in the second innings and they bowled pretty well
as well. I'm looking forward when f Saudi retires, and
I've made my views on Tis out pretty clear.

Speaker 8 (01:02:02):
I respect to.

Speaker 19 (01:02:03):
Die a lot and I think he's been amazing for
New Zealand. But when he retires, I'm really looking forward
to seeing willow' rourke open the bowling with a new ball.
I think he could be absolutely deadly. We saw what
he did in stages of that innings England's first innings yesterday,
and when he gets a new ball in his hands,
I think it could be something special to watch. So

(01:02:24):
I think there's been enough out of this Test to
be like, okay, well, they've still got something there. Just
makes it even more disappointing. That they were so bad
in the first.

Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
Two tests, is what does it say Sam about select
the selections. If we're waiting for somebody to retire, well.

Speaker 13 (01:02:39):
It's going to bring that up too. I mean we
all sort of scratched our heads or looked sideways and
before the second Test when they didn't make any changes.
In hindsight, it's a wonderful thing. But what would have
happened if will Young had have been opening the last
couple of games, And what would have happened if, say
Mitchell Santner or a full time spinner was used in
the last couple of games, even though the pictures don't
turn a lot yet, just to have that variety apart

(01:03:01):
from the seam and fast ballers. So yeah, some head
scratching stuff's gone on the last few weeks. But look,
the Willow rawc has bowl tremendously well. There's nothing like pace.
You just can't beat sheer pace. He's got the height
as well, and he digs it in around the ribs
and around.

Speaker 21 (01:03:17):
The bat handle.

Speaker 13 (01:03:18):
So I looked I played very well, but it's been
a little too little, too late really in the series.
But there are signs there for the future.

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
Sav I think you're being overly generous. It's not a
hindsight thing because we were talking about this even before
the second Test. Were we that we needed to have
we needed to change things up because Devin Conway's formed slumped.

Speaker 13 (01:03:36):
So yeah, so why if we can see it, why
can't they?

Speaker 4 (01:03:40):
Well, this is the question what is going on here?
I mean going to like any do you have any
ideas because it looks to me a little bit like
they make this selections based on loyalty and weird punishments
if you don't take contracts.

Speaker 19 (01:03:51):
That's exactly I'm not sure about the second well a
little bit in the second bit, but in the same breath,
like Devin Conway's got a full time contract this year
and he's still obviously been playing a lot for the
Black Cats. Kane Williamson's done the same thing and he's
playing pretty much every Test. But then tring Bolt, if
you look back to when he gave up his full

(01:04:13):
time contracts, never got a look at a Test match cricket,
So that side of things is a little bit interesting.
They are very very loyal selectors and it takes a lot,
and I mean a lot for them to drop someone
who has played a lot of tests for them, and
I'm talking you know, Devin Conway, I'm talking Tim Sow

(01:04:35):
the few other instances in the past where they've done
this sort of thing and people have been left wondering
why other players haven't had opportunities. So they are the
sort of I mean, I'm talking Gary Stead here. Luke
Ronkey has been part of that. I'm not sure if
he's a selector as such, but I'm sure he has
some input. Now. Sam Wells is a selector and before
him Gavin last and they've always been pretty pretty loyal

(01:04:59):
and really hard to move in terms of their thinking
around how the Test eleven or or so should look.
So I'm not overly surprised by what they've done, but
there have been some head scratching selection, that's for sure.

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
Sam.

Speaker 4 (01:05:12):
I've been sent to text here to tell me that,
even though somebody loves me like a sister, I need
to stop commenting on football because I don't know what
I'm talking about. So you give me your tech and
you have.

Speaker 13 (01:05:23):
Was that the same text so that day that you
that you you wanted Damien McKenzie and ahead of Boden Barrett,
and someone said you've got no idea. Maybe it's the
same text there. Maybe it's a serial.

Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
Text maybe, or maybe everybody's onto me that I just
maybe it's Barry, maybe it is maybe yeah, maybe he knows,
he knows, he's outing me. Hey, what do you make
of the own goal? Then that was I mean, there's
an their own goals.

Speaker 13 (01:05:47):
Having having dealt with this team in the last three
or four weeks and even interviewed Alex Paulson, this young
goalie who's a superb young player, I didn't think i'd
see in a million years him and the auckland See
defense make a mistake like that the back pass. Basically
he was looking up rather than looking down at the
ball and he led it through for the own goal.
So that was bizarre in itself. But then to score

(01:06:09):
the equalizer to keep this unbeaten run going. Yes, they
didn't win all, you see, but they're still unbeaten. Yeah,
to score the equalizer basically in the last minute stoppage
time from a free kick drilled into the back of
the net, I said, yeah, gee, whiz, they've got They've
got the football gods on his shoulder at the moment,
haven't they just writing.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
Down back pass? So that I know what that's.

Speaker 13 (01:06:30):
Called later in the day.

Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, week or something. Guy, what did you
make of It was pretty tense, wasn't it.

Speaker 19 (01:06:38):
It was? It was awesome, wasn't it. I've been enthralled
by what Aukland you see have done around now.

Speaker 13 (01:06:43):
It's Paulson.

Speaker 19 (01:06:44):
He has been one of the reasons why, or one
of the main reasons why they have been going as
well as they have. In a couple of games, the
opposition has peppered the goal and he's done remarkably well.

Speaker 13 (01:06:55):
To keep them out.

Speaker 19 (01:06:56):
So I don't think you can be I mean, it
was embarrassing and he won't want to work it again.
I didn't drink the ball. Bobble bobbled a little bit,
so maybe not one hundred percent of his fault.

Speaker 4 (01:07:06):
Oh bobbled did a little bit.

Speaker 19 (01:07:10):
It did a little bit. I'm not saying I am
saying it. It is quite embarrassing. He might want to
watch it again. But he has been a guy who
has kept them where they are on the table in
a couple of games. Like he has been amazed.

Speaker 13 (01:07:21):
I would imagine it's the only time in his career
he'll make it. He'll make him at that level. Who
make a booboo like that?

Speaker 4 (01:07:26):
Happens to the best of us, doesn't it. So we've
got to cut him a bit of slack. We're all
allowed a few mistakes. We'll come back to you guys
in just attack. It's fourteen past.

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Talks seventeen past back with the commentary Box Guy. Have
Elton Andrew Seville listen? Have either of you guys got
any intel on what's happening with Liam Lawson?

Speaker 20 (01:07:48):
Are you all right?

Speaker 13 (01:07:56):
Would you class as propert intel? There's a lot oading
around on the internet.

Speaker 19 (01:08:01):
That's for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
What are you reading on the internet.

Speaker 13 (01:08:03):
Wow, they're saying he's automatic, well not automatically, but he's
going to be. Some are saying he will he will
get the full red Bull drive. Some are saying, oh,
he'll be in the racing balls, you know the team
he's in.

Speaker 9 (01:08:13):
Yeh.

Speaker 13 (01:08:14):
Look, I think we suggested this last week or the
week before Mike that I'm pretty sure he is going
to be driving in Formula one next year. And this
is rid ball to a tee. They let everybody speculate
and they leave it. They leave a vacuum around their decisions.
The decision look would have already been made, I'm sure,
and the relevant people would have been told, were they
just take their time?

Speaker 4 (01:08:34):
And are they doing just doing it for drama?

Speaker 13 (01:08:38):
I probably just to draw it out of But it's
got surely has to be announced before Christmas for goodness sake?

Speaker 4 (01:08:44):
Oh why why does it have to be announced before Christmas?
Why not drag it out some more? M because of
this guy. Here's the thing. We thought we were going
to get the announcement last week. Then we thought we're
going to get the announcement this weekend, and there's nothing right.
So it's caused some people to go, maybe there is
something going on here.

Speaker 19 (01:09:02):
I think what we're learning is that we should not
try and predict what the hell is going to happen
in Formula one. It doesn't seem like many people are
getting it right. They haven't even announced that Sergio Pieris
is going.

Speaker 13 (01:09:13):
To be so I mean that maybe that's the issue,
and that they're working out how to get rid of them.

Speaker 4 (01:09:19):
Yes, maybe that's the pre Christmas announcement, and then then
maybe there's another announcement that they do sort of.

Speaker 19 (01:09:25):
In the new year, they really dreaming. I mean that
seems they've all been saying that that's pretty much a
fatal complete and that's been confirmed for about seems like
about three or four months, and that still hasn't been
officially confirmed. So I don't know what to make of
a wr it. Look, he'll be driving in each one.
I mean, it would be great to see them in
the Red Bull car official Red Book car. But if

(01:09:47):
he's in there, I still think that's that's going to
be pretty cool.

Speaker 13 (01:09:50):
By the way, it means they can squeeze another excuse me,
three or four weeks out of us here there and
sell a few more cans of fizzy drink. Maybe that's maybe.

Speaker 19 (01:09:59):
Maybe do you need to take your trip to the
doctor before before Christmas?

Speaker 13 (01:10:06):
I had the RONA a couple of weeks ago, told
us on the throat guy, I've prison up.

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
I was going to say, I've had the COVID a
couple of weeks ago, and you need to make sure
you're not getting that because it's gonna I it hit
me hard, but you're a bloke, so it's going to
hit you.

Speaker 1 (01:10:20):
Really.

Speaker 13 (01:10:21):
I saw you'd sounded blocked up the last week, so
I it was COVID. You didn't realize people still got that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:26):
Thanks for caring enough to ask. But anyway, what do
you guy, what do you reckon about the the NRL
handing this team to P and G but then you know,
tying it to not getting involved with China.

Speaker 19 (01:10:38):
I haven't really sad I saw the headlines. I'll be honest,
I I haven't actually kalt too much in the story.
Oh look, I think that I didn't know the China link,
so you might have this.

Speaker 4 (01:10:49):
Okay, so this is the China link, guy, is basically
they've given the team. So they're given the team to
P and G rather than US or anybody else who
wants it. And then they've said to them, here's six
hundred million for the next ten years to run the team,
and you only get to keep the team if you,
as a country do not sign a strategic geopolitical deal
or a military deal with China, which means that the
whole thing is actually not about P and G deserving

(01:11:09):
the team or making an NRL better. It's about a
little China move there from the USA and Australia.

Speaker 19 (01:11:15):
Yeah, it's just ouzing politics.

Speaker 4 (01:11:17):
I hate that.

Speaker 19 (01:11:18):
Yeah, I'm not huge on that at all. Before I
had heard that side of things, I thought it was
quite cool that there was going to be a pupa
new Guinea team in the NRL. They love I think
rugby league over there.

Speaker 4 (01:11:32):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely love it.

Speaker 19 (01:11:34):
So I'm not sure I'd want to go and play
a game there if I was, like, they are just
rabid for their rugby league over there, So I'm not sure.
I think it would be quite an intimidating place to
go to go and play rugby league.

Speaker 13 (01:11:46):
But it's not the first time. It's not the first
time countries of big countries have offered money to the
Islands as are headed with a bit of an asterisk
beside the money.

Speaker 4 (01:11:55):
No, but is it going to make your n r
L better for you to watch?

Speaker 19 (01:12:00):
Look?

Speaker 13 (01:12:00):
I think P and G have been screaming out for
a team for a long time and they they are
immense rugby league fans. They go absolutely crazy that all
the league ossie league stars are superstars and P ANDNG.
I think it'll work. They get the right players and
right coaches, so I think it will be great for
the competition.

Speaker 4 (01:12:21):
Yes, yeah, okay, well here's hoping, all right, lads, have
you guys got interesting things to do this summer.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
Work.

Speaker 4 (01:12:28):
Oh isn't that? Isn't that so many people's stories? Sav
what are you doing? You've gone very que.

Speaker 13 (01:12:34):
Eeting the next couple of weeks.

Speaker 4 (01:12:38):
Yep, I'll be doing the same as you, So I.

Speaker 13 (01:12:40):
Find that I find that quite interesting.

Speaker 19 (01:12:43):
That doesn't sound much different from the rest.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
Of the.

Speaker 13 (01:12:47):
Working your way around the Christmas buffets and stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:12:51):
Guys, listen, enjoy your summer breaks. It has been lovely
to chat to you. Merry Christmas and we'll see you
again in the new year. That's guy. Have Elton Andrew
Savelo Commentary Box this Monday eight twenty two.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
The Monday Morning Commentary Box on the mic Hosking Breakfast
with Spears Finance, supporting Kiwi businesses with finance solutions for
over fifty years.

Speaker 2 (01:13:10):
Heather Duplessy Allen on the mic.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Hosking Breakfast with al Vida Retirement Communities News Togs.

Speaker 2 (01:13:16):
He'd be hither.

Speaker 4 (01:13:17):
The rumors are that Sugio Perez's buyout figures up around
seventy five million euros and that could be the reason
for the delay. Like what they're trying to get, trying
to trying to find the money trying to get alone,
trying to just scratch around the back of the couch
see if they can find it. Murrayolds, what was that
twelve or it's twelve mil? Not this Sam knows these

(01:13:37):
things because he's across this twelve mil, not seventy five mil.
But it's a lot of money anyway. I don't know
about you, but I mean I wouldn't find twelve mil
if I scratched around in my house, would you? Eight
twenty six? Now, Murrayold's is going to be a us
shortly interesting. Okay. If you were watching one News last night,
you would have seen this. There was a story about
what's going on with these townhouses and stuff overheating. This
is a bit of a problem that's happening in a

(01:13:59):
lot of high density houses. At the moment, Danny, it
was Danny's house. Danny had a thermometer in his house
and his townhouse in christ Church. Problem for Danny's thermometer
got over fifty sent to great right fifty degrees. Problem was,
obviously Danny had put his thermometer in the sun. So
if you want a proper reading, you've got to take
it out of the sun. Just put it somewhere further

(01:14:19):
in the room, but regardless, it's getting hot in there anyway. Problem.
So they're trying to figure out what is going on
with these new builds and why they're overheating, because obviously
we're trying to keep them warm in the winter, but
then we're getting them too warm in the summer, and
they're looking at the ventilation and the insulation and stuff.
I don't know a lot about building, but I feel
like the problem is that there's no shade in these houses.
You know, back in the old day, you'd build a

(01:14:41):
house that would have like a canopy over the window,
just give it a bit of shade. None of the
new builds have that. And the windows don't open wide enough.
It's little cracks, do you know what I mean? Anyway,
maybe they want to look at just being able to
open the doors and let the hot air out, get
a bit of shade in there. Just the thought News
Us next.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
The Breakfast show you can tru us Heather do for
Sellen on the Mic Hosking Breakfast with a Vita, Retirement Communities,
Life Your Way News togs Head be Heather.

Speaker 4 (01:15:15):
I was right, Heather, the new townhouses have no eaves.
They were for sheltering from the sun. It's much cheap
cheaper to build without eaves. What you'll notice have a
look at the townhouses, right, So they're just basically boxes
in a row, which is kind of esthetically pleasing, and
they're done, and all the funky colors like the charcole,
you know, like half half charcoal half a bit of
wood paneling and stuff.

Speaker 16 (01:15:35):
Color.

Speaker 4 (01:15:36):
Oh yeah, what why not?

Speaker 16 (01:15:39):
Isn't it basically dark gray?

Speaker 4 (01:15:41):
Yes, it's very cool at the minute because we're all
into them. Remember the color of the year. Remember the
color of the year is basically a used tea bag.
So we're really into the browns at the moment. Anyway,
So you've got all these box things and looks very
cool and it's very kind of you know, tight and
tidy and stuff like that. But no balconies, no eaves.
And if you look at the old houses, the way

(01:16:01):
that you used to build a house like a villa
or something like that, or even go to like really
hot climates where you'd have sort of like I don't know,
you know, ranch style houses and stuff like that. You've
always got, haven't you. You've always got a balcony and
you've always got a big stoop or something like that
with a big old veranda around the front, so you
can get a bit of that shade going on and
stuff like that. This is what the townhouses aren't doing. Also,

(01:16:24):
Sophie says, ours is painted white. We've got no issue.
It's these trendy black charcot the ego trendy black charcoal colors.
There you go, Sophie says, attract the heat in the
and if you stick to the light colors you'll be
absolutely fine. So anyway, do your due diligence. What you
want to do if you get to buy a townhouse
is you want to obviously buy the townhouse at the

(01:16:44):
height of summer and then say to them, I need
to spend a full day here just seeing how hot
with my thermometer in the sun, seeing how hot it gets,
and then you're gonna avoid this trouble. Twenty one Away
from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:16:55):
International correspondence with ends in Eye Insurance, Peace of Mind,
Zealand Business.

Speaker 4 (01:17:01):
Murray old Ozzi corresponding with us right now Mars.

Speaker 12 (01:17:03):
Hello, very good morning, do you Heather.

Speaker 4 (01:17:06):
So what's the reaction been to the last of the
Bali nine Getting back to Ozzie.

Speaker 12 (01:17:11):
Well, it depends who you ask, you know, the more
conservative Australian voters, you know, you listen to talkback radio.
The news broke yesterday afternoon and that the last five
are now home. They flew into Darwin on the same
airline that they flew they were planning to fly back
all those years ago with heroin strapped to their bodies.

(01:17:33):
There were five left. One died in prison. Of course,
two were shot dead by firing squad. They were executed
for their roles in this drug plot. And of course
the only female was paroled early. And Renee Lawrence has
been home. So Scott Rush, Matthew Norman, Sichi Chen, Martin
Stevens and Michael Chugui. We're all serving life sentences. Anthony

(01:17:56):
Albanezi had a word to the incoming Indonesian president on
the sidelines of a recent South American conference, and they're
our home. And you know, the right wing here are saying, well,
they should have stayed there. We don't want them back.
The left is saying, well, you know, you don't get
that long for murder, and it's time they were brought home. Interestingly, Heather,

(01:18:19):
there's no additional punishment required. From back in Australia that
he supervised obviously, and they will also you know, there's
going to be no ongoing punishment. As I said, there's
no more jail time, and I mean, let's put it
that way. But you know they will be monitored and

(01:18:40):
the government says, look, they've done the crime and they've
now done the time. So the home in time for Christmas.

Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
What kind of state do you reckon they'll be in
after nearly twenty years in an Indonesian.

Speaker 12 (01:18:52):
Jail, I would be pretty messed up. I mean, it's
not the Helton, is it. I mean, it's a pretty
dreadful prison system. But then I mean, to show me
a prison system it's any good. I'd be dreadful to
spend twenty years, you know, and the best years of
your life in a hellhole i've been in. In fact,
they've been scattered at different prisons Indonesia. It's not as
they've even been together all these years. So look, I

(01:19:14):
think for them and their families and the ones who
love them, it'll be a very welcome Christmas present. But
not everybody's doing handsprings.

Speaker 4 (01:19:21):
I can imagine that, Hey, Dustin will be pretty pleased
to themselves when people are still talking about as nuclear land.

Speaker 3 (01:19:27):
Yeah they are.

Speaker 12 (01:19:28):
And again I mean look, politics is fractured along ideological
lines over here. There's no attempt anymore to have a
common policy for the common good, for the commonwealth, none
of that, particularly in the febrile environment we find ourselves
in and the countdown to an election early next year.

(01:19:49):
How early, we're not sure. It's up to alban easy
to pull the trigger on that, but yes, Peter Dutton
finally dropped his nuclear power planned last week, again the
right wing saying, gee, where's well done, Pete. Excellent plan,
notwithstanding the enormous cost that taxpayers will have to spend
amen seven hundred billion dollars or something to build seven

(01:20:09):
nuclear power plants. We'll be paying for that taxpayers. And
also a couple of very important moving parts of the
Dutton plan. It's going to delay the in fact, it
will help the rollout of renewables as far as the
Coalition's concerned. And somehow he's going to magically make the
old coal fired power stations that are clapped out. Now.

(01:20:32):
No one's willing to spend a dollar on trying to
refurbish these things and keep them going, but the Coalition
wants to keep them going.

Speaker 23 (01:20:39):
Well.

Speaker 12 (01:20:39):
Out of the twenty thirties, there are seven of these
and they're at the end of their lives. So who's
going to refer these? We're not sure. The government says
it's pie and the sky nonsense from a guy who's
clutching its strawsaltion. The opposition of course, saying, well, Labour's plan,
you know, it depends when the sun is shining and
the wind is blowing. When that's not happening, base load

(01:21:00):
power isn't being provided. So it's going to be another
area of contest in the lead up to the election.
But underpending everything, it's cost of living that's going to
be the big one for the election either.

Speaker 4 (01:21:12):
Maz listen, do we know what resort in Fiji these
people got alcohol poisoned at?

Speaker 12 (01:21:16):
No, we don't. We're all you know. I just heard
last night. I've been to the Coral coast of Fiji.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
It's a beautiful spot.

Speaker 12 (01:21:22):
Lots of lovely resorts there. I'm not sure exactly which resort. No,
we haven't. We have not learned that. But it's it's
pretty serious. It's got echoes, hasn't it. Of Laos and
the recent tragedy up there where those young people. There
were two young Buzsie girls who died, but there are
four Australians involved. In Fiji. Seven people rushed to hospital.

(01:21:44):
Hang on, I've just looked it up here, thank you
very much. Indeed my computer. The Warwick Resort, the Warwick,
Fiji resort.

Speaker 4 (01:21:50):
Now the War's not it's not it. That's but flash,
isn't it.

Speaker 12 (01:21:55):
Well, look I'm not to stay there, but no doubt.
You know Hosking in the line would be.

Speaker 2 (01:22:01):
I think he's a sweep there. Yeah, well he is.
That's right.

Speaker 12 (01:22:05):
It's a very smart resort. Now is it deliberate? Is
it an accident? We're not sure. The Fiji and Health
Ministry is on the case and apparently the people who
have been taken ill have now been transferred to perhaps
the best hospital in Fiji. So look, more news are
coming through today and no doubt, lots of concern for

(01:22:26):
these people. Yeah, particularly given what we saw in Laos.

Speaker 4 (01:22:29):
Marz, thanks very much, appreciate it. That's Murray Olds. Hoskin's
got a suite there, he says, like he doesn't have
a suite there himself. The Warwick is quite a nice
a nice resort. I'll tell you what everybody's interested in,
because who hasn't been to Figi lately. Right, you'll have
been to Fiji in the last five years, A hot
on wind to close the borders. Now you'll have been

(01:22:50):
to Fiji in the last six years, and we've all
gone to the Coral coast. In fact, the last time
I went to Fiji, which was this year, I went
to the Coral Coast. Anyway, Lisa, I'm starting to I'm
starting to feel slightly nervous about drinking cocktails when I'm overseas.
How are you feeling about that? The economy now, very
interesting thing on the best performing economy in the world

(01:23:10):
and what we can learn from that. I'm going to
run you through at next quarter two the.

Speaker 1 (01:23:14):
Mic Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by
News Talks that be hither.

Speaker 4 (01:23:20):
I went to the Warrick in May. It's a dump
to be fair, some of those star ratings in Fiji
are a little dodgy of later, aren't they? Twelve away from nine?
Now the economists. The Economist has done a really interesting
thing in the last week or so where it's ranked
which economies just did best over the last year. And
it's not just looked at it not just looked at
economic growth, but it's actually looked about five different economic

(01:23:41):
indicators and financial indicators. Had to look at GDP, had
a look at stock market performance, core inflation, unemployment, and
then government deficits and basically looked at thirty seven. I
don't know how they picked these thirty seven countries, but
they mostly rich countries. So it's probably that we came
in at three out of thirty seven, which will surprise no.

(01:24:03):
One because our GDP is at zero point eight. Our
share prices percentage change over the last year is eight
point two, which is really not that flash. Our inflation
was still sitting too high at three point two, et cetera,
et cetera. Australia, by comparison, sitting at twenty one. The
only country is below US Finland, Turkey, which is a
total cotcase, Latvia and Estonia, so you know we're not

(01:24:26):
in good company. Number one Spain interesting aim because I
looked at it and I thought, is this for real?
Number two Ireland Obviously Spain GDP three point five percent,
share price has changed seventeen point one percent. Inflation sitting
comfortably at about two point four percent. Anyway, I had
a look at it last week. I thought, is this
an okay server? I mean, it's the economist, right, so

(01:24:46):
it's incredible, but Spain, Spain is a cockcase. Well no,
it's not a cockcase anymore, is it. And so anyway,
the economist has looked at looked more deeply into it
and given us a few lessons that we can learn.
And it's weird how many of these lessons actually lies
in New Zealand. So the first lesson from Spain is
basically how they've managed to well turn their economy around

(01:25:07):
from being a copcase. Number one, spend your time focusing
on services, not focusing on manufacturing. Now that's interesting because
we have been focusing on manufacturing a lot this year
because we had all a bunch of manufacturing plants closed
down right, the pulp and paper mills and all that
kind of stuff. So we've been getting really exercised about that.
They're like, don't worry about that. Move up the value chain.
Do what Spain has done. Spain is exporting consulting services

(01:25:29):
and technological know how, getting really hard into the tourism,
which we seem to be dropping the ball on a
wee bit. Another lesson is stay open. Young people used
to leave Spain for opportunities. They are coming back to
Spain for opportunities. How much does that sound like something
we need to do right? And they're getting the migrants,
and they're low paid, they're low skilled, but at least
they're increasing the size of the economy. Also welcomed investment

(01:25:52):
from Chinese firms. Listen there for us again, get the
foreign capital in. They've got a car maker and a
Chinese battery maker opening up manufacturing in Spain. And then
finally the most important thing they reckon. Spain shows that
structural reforms bring long term rewards. Most of its recent
success reflects decisions after the financial crisis to reform its

(01:26:14):
banks and labor market, both of which are things that
our government are looking at at the moment. They've made
it that they've had a crack at the bank, sorted
that out, and then also made it easier for bosses
to renegotiate contracts. So if the government carries on the
way it is doing those things, maybe in years to come.

Speaker 2 (01:26:29):
We will see the rewards.

Speaker 4 (01:26:30):
Fingers crossed nine away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
Heather duplicy Ellen Pond, the Mike Hosking Breakfast with the
range Rover, the La.

Speaker 4 (01:26:37):
Newss b Heather is that the Spain that's using water
pistols against the tourists. Yeah, is one and the same.
So maybe too much of a good thing. I suppose
six away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:26:50):
So the bread trending now the Chemist Warehouse, the home
of big brand fightamins.

Speaker 4 (01:26:56):
There it is the Brits. They are loving a new
documentary based on Wham.

Speaker 1 (01:26:59):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:27:00):
Any self respecting brit slash, anybody who understands music would
tell you, Whem's Last Christmas? What am I talking about?
Last Christmas? You know what I'm talking about? That one
is right up there with Mariah Carries Christmas Song as
the best songs ever written in the history of the
world about Christmas and the totally right. And because of that,
they're done what's called Wham Last Christmas Unwrapped, which is

(01:27:20):
an in depth look into the tune and the genius
of George Michael.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
Things could hardly have gone any better for us that year, and.

Speaker 4 (01:27:31):
It would be great to finish it off with a
Christmas song.

Speaker 13 (01:27:35):
It would be impossible to consider yourself the biggest success
ever without having a number one a Christmas.

Speaker 2 (01:27:42):
Suddenly this melody came into my and Andy to come
listen to this.

Speaker 1 (01:27:48):
George insisted that he play everything himself on that record.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
Top three at last Christmas Heartbreaker.

Speaker 7 (01:27:58):
We were convinced like Christmas and one crowning Glory would
be ours.

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
Everything was ready.

Speaker 4 (01:28:08):
So it's out now in the UK on Netflix. It's
out sometime today in the US, which means we will
get it at some stage. You can watch it on
TVNZ one eight o'clock on Christmas Eve and then at
some stage presumably on Netflix now. Weirdly okay, so you
would have heard them say there George Michael played every
single instrument on that track, So I went, I made

(01:28:28):
I made the three year old listen to it with
me at the weekend. Played every single instrument. X drums,
excellent keyboards, excellent bass. Dodgy is all how really weird
weird bassline? Get how weird this?

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
What about this?

Speaker 4 (01:28:49):
Drums? How about that? Anyway, it was because he's a micromanager.
But you don't get anywhere without being a micro manager.
You want to be successful to be a micromanager.

Speaker 16 (01:28:58):
Business really what you want to be. On Christmas Eve
was watching a documentary about this one song.

Speaker 4 (01:29:04):
No, what I What I have discovered, Glenn, is that
actually you can recall things and then you can watch
back later.

Speaker 16 (01:29:11):
All right, It's just that last New Year's Eve, we
watched the documentary about George Michael, you know, and n
was a very depressing music.

Speaker 4 (01:29:21):
Yes, where is that?

Speaker 16 (01:29:24):
We went out for drinks earlier, I just want to say,
then came.

Speaker 4 (01:29:30):
So it was half good.

Speaker 16 (01:29:31):
Have I have I revealed too much about life in
the hearth household?

Speaker 17 (01:29:33):
Maybe?

Speaker 4 (01:29:34):
See it's honestly going home and watching videos about George Michael.
Anyway to get the videos? What am I nineteen eighty five?
Go and have a look at this. Go and listen
to the track. See what I mean about the baseline.
You'll see what I mean when you listen to it. Anyway,
it would be back with you tomorrow. Enjoy the rest
of your.

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
Day, newsbooks you me.

Speaker 1 (01:30:01):
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