Full Show Podcast: 16 September 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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your Way, news togs, You're welcome today.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
The classroom scrap over unregistered teachers as relievers, we got
to drop and climbing downtown offering.

Speaker 3 (00:16):
Down to the clops have shown up.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
We got the ev problem, the places of wash at
the moment with cars that Malone wants to buy. Lads
are doing the sport after right Murray Old's Richard arm
Will they.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Line it up as well?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Posky, Welcome to the week seven past six. The media
love a good bit of government department advice.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
If you noticed that.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
The latest is that school lunches were working well and
the government knew it when it cut them back. The
inferences the government, of course, I beg meanis who took
little kid sandwiches away? Small point. Our lunches were merely changed.
There are still lunches, They're just different and most importantly cheaper,
given we never had the money for them in the
first place. But as for government advice, this obsession we

(00:54):
have in reporting it has always fascinated me.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Is it in part?

Speaker 2 (00:57):
The media trying to stick it up the government. Does
a sport from a faceless wonk or an apartment mean
they're right that the government are wrong? Why do we
care so much? Why so much coverage of pen pushes
in their thoughts? Can a report be simply, I don't know,
an alternative view, something to bounce off a minister to
test the theory behind what they're trying to do. There
has been since this government has been in power, a
concerted amount of coverage involving a large number of reports

(01:20):
that essentially point out that spending vast sums of money
is somehow leading to outcomes that we liked and we
don't want to be changed. School lunches are the responsibility,
dare I suggest of parents, So when the last government
decided to take that responsibility away, it costs so much
that not even they could bring themselves to foot the bill,
So they only gave food to some people, and those

(01:41):
who wanted it didn't actually get what they wanted. They
got it for everyone in the school, even though the
school didn't actually need it. How you write a report
that says that that's a good thing, I don't know.
The lesson I think from the last government's fiscal large
est that led to most likely three recessions is that
there are groups of New Zealanders who, no matter what
the economic damage will be, are happy to take free stuff.

(02:04):
They will justify it, they will defend it, and they'll
want even more of it. In other words, there is
no end to the demand for freebes warranted or not,
since the school un't change outside of Friday's winge from
government officials. You know what, I haven't actually heard a complaint.
Could it be it's worked and it saved money. Is
there a I don't know a report that can confirm that,

(02:25):
or doesn't that fit the narrative?

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Who news of the world in ninety seconds?

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Com I maybe over in Europe, but the migrant shambles. There's'
another weekend, Another eight deaths on the journey from France
to Britain.

Speaker 5 (02:37):
Just yesterday, eight crossing attempts were thwarted and more than
two hundred migrants were rescued at sea. Driven by profit,
human traffickers are putting more and more lives at rescue,
selling crossings in dangerous conditions on unseaworthy boats.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Are those who had to see each time to do
the rescues need help.

Speaker 6 (02:53):
The HM Coastguard has a statutory function to respond to
maritime search and rescue instance, and it is only a
matter of time before we have another tragedy in the
UK side, and we're not prepared for that because we
don't have the right vessels, we don't have the right teams.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
So the pressure is once again on the Foreign Secretary.

Speaker 7 (03:09):
In the end, we have to smash the gangs. You
can only do that with working with our closest neighbors
in Europe. We are determined to deal with those supply
roots that bring people illegally across the channel.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
In the wars and long range missiles are the talk
of both who you have launched against Israel, which has
the Republicans upset.

Speaker 8 (03:30):
We're just living on borron term here at home, and
Israel may have to strike to prevent a nucle armed
Iran if the Itola who's the religious Nazi head in
Nigal web and he would use it is just not Ukraine.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
So the Ukrainians, who got nothing out of Biden's Starmer
meeting over the weekends said, well, what are they ass.

Speaker 9 (03:47):
We cannot defend our territorial antivity if our hands are
tied off.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
On our back.

Speaker 9 (03:53):
This restriction not to use song range missiles on Russian
military orchidt this is something that should very much limits
our possibility.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Indeed, then I'm britten a brewing scrap over the UK
hosting the Euros. It's a football in twenty twenty eight.
So Starmer wants a football regulator. The Europeans don't like that,
so THEFA is stuck in the middle.

Speaker 10 (04:12):
This is quite expected. I believe this is a sort
of a desperate throw by people who would like to
stop what is a very progressive your idea.

Speaker 2 (04:23):
Finally, you might have heard about the Mega landslide over
the weekend. For the first time ever, it has caused
the whole Earth to vibrate. So this all started in
Greenland when at one point two Kilimana high mountain peak
it collapsed and it fell into a fiord. Now that
caused the water to slosh back and forth, causing vibrations
right through the Earth's crust for nine days. Now, scientists

(04:47):
who were looking at they go what they had not
seen this level of seismic activity worldwide from a single
event ever before.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
So that's something new for you.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
To use the world in ninety seconds by the way,
speaking of new space exits back down to Earth. Came
in at about seven thirty last night, when I say
came and it's splashed down off the coast of Florida
three thirty in the morning. Their time, five day Polaris
Dawn flight, fifth private mission for SpaceX, most ambitious yet
given the skywalk, of course, or the spacewalk.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
So Elon seems to be on a bit of a roll.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
But one of us trucks did blow up, and I'll
tell you about that later.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Twelve minutes past six.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
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Speaker 2 (05:25):
A b bit a poll action for you stagside Harris
fifty forty five. That's a morning consult poll out over
the weekend. There was another one that was a Router's
ipsos forty seven forty two. Once again to Harris. The
money flowed post the debate. She raised forty seven million.
Another forty seven million in the twenty four hours post
the debate that came from six hundred thousand individual donors.

(05:46):
So for the month she's got three sixty one This
is for August three hundred and sixty one million, more
than double the one thirty that Trump's gone. It's trending
her way. Fifteen past six on Devin Fund's management Monday Morning,
Greg Smith Morning, the big week. You got the Fed
coming in.

Speaker 11 (06:04):
Certainly have It was a big week and investors are
sort of leading up to that last week for great performance.
So he had the best week for both the s
and P five hundred and the nansdack this year. Sm
P up four percent, Nasty Cup six percent, and video
was up fifteen percent last week. SMP's just one percent
from its record high. So we saw the consumer and
wholesome inflation data. They came down in line of expectations

(06:26):
at the head on the level, no nasty surprises, so
leaves are clear.

Speaker 3 (06:29):
The way clear for the Fed cut rates this week.

Speaker 11 (06:31):
You've also got the labor market calling looks like it's
going to be a close call with a twenty five
basis point cut or half percent. There's still a few
sticky elements of inflation, and it might particularly important will
be the signaling around the pace of future rate cuts.
So markets are pricing around one hundred and twenty five
basis points by the end of the year, but inflation's
falling as our expectations around it. So we had the

(06:52):
University of Michigan Consumer Conference server on Friday. So one
year inflation outlook two point seven percent, that's the lowest
since decend between twenty Consumer conference also picking up as well.
The survey's headline reading rows to sixty nine September, and yeah,
consumer sentiment is around about forty percent higher than it's
June twenty twenty two low.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
So that's all pretty good.

Speaker 11 (07:13):
Interestingly, Consumer said that is a little bit of uncertainty
around the illumining election, which you would expect the sevens
actually before that debate, but over all narratives, inflation's falling. Also,
US import prices they were down point three percent in August,
biggest decline of the year. Export prices down point seven percent.
So yeah, definitely gonna get that rate cup. Mike questions
how much.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
And then we've got China who cannot seem to shake
their problems.

Speaker 11 (07:34):
Yeah, so we're still awaiting the post pandemic recovery the year.
It's obviously very important to us being the largest customer,
but yeah, very subdued. Being more data over the weekend
relay into the economy, means of the factory output consumption
in vestment, they were slave more than forecast. The job
with rate rows as well. So you look at some
of the numbers. Retail sales are up two point one
percent year on year, but that missed expectations for two

(07:56):
and a half percent, slowed down from July. Is an
industrial production that was up four and half percent in
August from a year ago, but again that was lower
than estimates. Also interesting that productions rising faster than retail sales,
sobs stronger supply versus demand fixstive investment that also legged
urban unemployment that ticked up to five point three percent
in August, and also the manufacturing sector slow down and

(08:18):
investment in real estate, and we hear a lot of
obviously about the Chinese property market and how that's been
calling way too fast. So investment in real estate fell
by over ten percent for the year through August, so
you know their efforts to show the property market up
aren't coming through this year. And also relevant to us
is that China's imports rose by just half a percent
in August from a year ago. So yeah, we are

(08:40):
looking for that recovery in China hasn't happened yet. It
also means that probably at this rate again, a struggle
to hit the five percent and your growth target for
this year. Obviously that something that officials want to do.
So you we're waiting a big lot of stimulus and
that hasn't come as yet.

Speaker 12 (08:53):
Right.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
Oh so our manufacturing I see a rise of one
point four but we're still in contraction. So good, all bad,
half full or half well.

Speaker 11 (09:02):
Incremental improvements, and that was how the report was tired
from Business News informance of manufacturing. Yes, things are still
in contraction. They've been that way for eighteen months from
theok A manufacturing sector, but you know, we're are seeing
things start to improve all bit from a position of weakness.
So next came in forty five point in August. That
was up from forty four point four in July. So
still in contraction territory and quite a way below the

(09:25):
long term average of fifty two point six. But the
PMI is heading in the right direction. Production new orders,
they were the strongest I've been in months.

Speaker 13 (09:32):
That was good.

Speaker 11 (09:33):
Employments also recovered as well, but you look at the
the curve, comments still quite negative a road about sixty
four point two percent for the current month, but that
was an improvement on seventy one point one percent in
July and seventy six point three percent in Jurance. So yeah,
business confidence picking up, but still a little bit fragile.
Conditions generally remain quite challenging, so that's not gonna be
lost on the RBNZ when they meet next month. We're

(09:55):
probably expecting another rate cup there as well, and also
might We've got GDP numbers this week to show the
economics spender just zero point one percent in the Dune quarter.
There are some other green shoots coming through a game
from position of weakness, so ari on iz data showed
that there was a one point three percent increase in
bending half prices months a month month on month in August.
Annually prices are now down just zero points six percent

(10:17):
on a year ago, so so marginal improvements are the
numbers so down We're up point seven percent four one
three nine three on Friday s and p five and
a half a percent five six two six Na's deck
up point seven percent all when audency has had a
good week. As mentioned forts one hundred, there was a
point four percent eighty two seven three Nickeli down point
seven percent a six two hundred point three percent eight

(10:40):
zero nine nine, intex fifty twelve eighty three to two,
up point one percent. We're a one point three percent
high for the week. Gold might record high up thirty
dollars two thousand and five and seventy seven and ounce
oil down thirty two cents, sixty eight spots, sixty five
currency markets kylwa against all the majors. Really, you stall
a sixty one point six eight dollars one point eight

(11:01):
forty six point ninety at stealing this week, Mike.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
We've got deary auction.

Speaker 11 (11:04):
We've got the scene called GDP numbers and office. We've
got Central Bank meetings clenty Bank of England backage of
panload in the week. But the big one, the feed
meeting that the ethn't begin.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
So exciting.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Go we'll make catchup, sin Greg Smith Devon Funds Management
pascicles seemed to be on some.

Speaker 3 (11:19):
Sort of roll. This is Larry Allison. Of course.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
They see at least sixty six billion for twenty twenty
six fiscal year, which is another one and a half
billion than they thought they were going to get. They
see one hundred and four billion by twenty twenty nine.
Their shares are up fifty five percent on the year,
So they're rolling and he briefly Larry became the second
richest man over the weekend. Didn't last, but he was
worth for a moment, beating Besos at two hundred and

(11:41):
eight billion.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
So Oracle linked to.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
New Zealand, linked to Russell Coots, linked to the America's
cap So he's on a roll.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Six twenty one er News Talks.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
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Speaker 2 (11:57):
Got another poll, Taylor swiftson Dorse to Kamala harrisdon work
Yuga poll only eight percent of people would be somewhat
or much more likely to vote because of what Taylor
Swift said. In fact, twenty percent said they would be
less likely. And then Donald Trump this morning on Truth
Social I was going to say tweeted out, but whatever
you do on truth Social social out, whatever it was,

(12:19):
he simply said, I hate Taylor Swift in Capital letters,
cool Guy six twenty five.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
Trending now with Chemist ware House, the home of big
brand ftamens.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
And on related matters, we found the source of the
Haitians and Springfield eating cats and dogs comes from apparently JD.
Vance so starts with the claim from Varnce that he
was told that Haitians are eating geese from the pond
multiple nine eleven calls about it, he says, So the
Clark County Sheriff, the Ohaga Higher Department of Natural Resources.
They review eleven months worth of nine eleven calls. They

(12:50):
find two instances. They follow those two up. There's no evidence.
They then look at the alleged videos of pets being eaten.
Videos all unsourced, all taken from different cities around will
don't feature Haitians and have been sent to a bloke
on social media. So you would pay five thousand dollars
for them, and so did j D.

Speaker 14 (13:06):
I've been trying to talk about the problems in Springfield
for months, and the American media ignored it. There was
a congressional hearing just last week of angel moms who
lost children because Kamala Harris let criminal migrants into this
country who then murdered their children. The American media totally
ignored this stuff until Donald Trump and I start.

Speaker 4 (13:25):
Talking about cat memes.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
If I have to, it's just create.

Speaker 14 (13:30):
Stories so that the American media actually pays attention to
the suffering of the American people. Then that's what I'm
gonna do, Dana, because you guys are completely letting Kamala
Harris coast, which is why a lot of Americans can't
afford food and housing.

Speaker 4 (13:43):
You just said that you're creating the public policy.

Speaker 15 (13:49):
Sorry, you just said that you're creating the story.

Speaker 11 (13:51):
Is that, Dana?

Speaker 16 (13:53):
You just said that this is a story that you created,
so that the eating dogs is not.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
We are creating.

Speaker 14 (14:00):
I say that we're creating a story, meaning we're creating
the American media focusing on it. I didn't create twenty
thousand illegal migrants coming into Springfield thanks to Kamala Harris's policies.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
Her policies did that.

Speaker 14 (14:12):
But yes, we created the actual focus that allowed the
American media to talk about this story.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Focus or making up stories, which is what I was
trying to say on Friday. Fifty six to fifty seven
thousand people live in Springfield, fifteen thousand Haitians have arrived.
That's actually the story, and so, as I also suggested Friday, Unfortunately,
the nutters get in the way, invent stuff, lie, make
things up, so the actual issue is never really discussed.

(14:41):
Now we've got some problems in the classrooms of New Zealand.
Apparently we don't like unregistered relievers. The Education Minister will
be with us on that alfter seven o'clock meantime, the news.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Is next, the newsmakers and the personalities the big names
talk to, like my costing breakfast.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
With the Jaguar f cut from a different clath news
togs vs.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
They reports coming through there have been gunshots quote unquote
in the vicinity of Donald Trump. Nothing's happened, per se,
and he's fine and this is all coming from his
group of people. This is happening in Nevada, but there
were gunshots in the vicinity. So Richard Arnold'll be on
top of that and if there's anything more to report,
we'll give it to you in know miment twenty three
minutes away from seven.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Then we're getting the business of registered filling teachers. And
it's always the unions, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
But what is it we can do short of handing
out literally more money forever? What is it the unions
actually want in this country? It's always in trouble anyway more.
Up to seven o'clock meantime, we find out this morning
more of us are suffering.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
From respiratory disease.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
In twenty twenty one, it was seven hundred thousand of US,
which strikes me as a lot of people. Our new
research suggesting that now figure that figure is now over
a million. It's an eight and a half billion dollar
problem too, apparently for the country. The Asthma Respiratory Foundation
Boss Letitia Harding's back, Well, this is Letitia morning.

Speaker 13 (15:56):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Now, part of that will be the population sizes and
since twenty twenty one one, but materially as a percentage
of the population, seems we're getting worse.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
If so, why, Yeah, it's a good question, of course.

Speaker 17 (16:09):
I mean some of these targets that we look at
and across this report, we look at you know, boncetus
child with broon colitis, pneumonia, et cetera. We found the
highest mortality, as you'd expect, was in that over sixty
five age group. So certainly that accounts mostly for your COPD.
And also, you know, with the asset and appearance, we

(16:31):
may be picking up more as the other thing, which
is a good thing because obviously then we can treat
it more effectively.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
Well, that's true. These are robust numbers. We're confident of
number one, which is over a million. And number two, well,
where do we get the eight and a half billion
from for the health system?

Speaker 17 (16:47):
Yeah, so that's looking at all sorts of different factors
that go into I mean, we based a lot of
this on our prescriptions, hostilizations. You're looking at time off work.
Then you're also looking at school days lost for respiratory
ostilations for children, there was an estimated three hundred and
sixty thousand school days lost. But of course then you've
got to have parents who take time off work as well.

(17:07):
So a lot of factors go into this, and we
do this report every two years because really what we
want to be able to do is look at those
different DHV areas, what's highest in those areas, whether it's
childhood pneumonia or asthma, and then we can really target
those particular areas around the country as well.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
So how much of these things that we can literally
easily do something about versus it's just who we are,
where we are in the world, the air we breathe,
et cetera. And really there's not a lot we can do.

Speaker 17 (17:35):
Yeah, I think for us, what's been what we pair
this up with and look at from the Foundations perspective
is how many of our guidelines are going out by
the health professionals, how many of these are being downloaded
in access and we've actually seen a huge increase double
over the last couple of years. So that's a good
thing because of course we put out the National Asthma

(17:57):
Guidelines and the CPD guidelines important because it means that
people are staying up to date, knowing the different medications,
knowing how asthma management plans work. And then we see
also that people are taking those on board. So it's
about you can't sure something like asthma, but you can
actually manage it better, and that's the most important thing
because of course we don't want the high numbers you know,

(18:19):
dying from esthma or.

Speaker 18 (18:22):
Over the years exactly.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Latista appreciated time is always Letitia Harding, who's the ASPA
and Respiratory Foundation CEO. Another poll, I'm on a rolls
more than Key Starmer's approval rating is plunged. Not surprisingly,
when you go and cut the winter fuel allowance, people
don't like that, and when you then go and talk
about tax heights as well, people don't like that either.
I'll come to a very good piece of red over
the weekend from Peter Dunna about the Labor Party here
anyway back in Britain, ipsos, what have we got the people?

(18:47):
The percentage of people who view them favorably Starma has
gone from thirty eight to thirty two, those who have
a negative impression have gone from eight to forty six,
and the next score now is minus fourteen. So we
met with Biden over the weekend. This was the great
We referred to this in the early part of the program.
There was some sort of indication that maybe they'd give

(19:08):
the trigger, the nod, the wink to some long term
missile action.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Didn't happen.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
This is in Ukraine, of course, didn't happen, So there's
a building frustration there as well.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Nineteen two pasking now what happened with Liam?

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Mike Perez has crashed again, Probably Perez's fault. If one
this morning, best race you'll ever see. Piastre's a genius.
What else can I tell you? McLaren are now leading,
they've overtaken Red Bull. The gap between Norris for the
Driver's Championship and Berstapan has closed. The announcement on Liam

(19:46):
is this coming weekend in Singapore, so a lot to
look forward to. More on the sport after rate of
course eighteen two Richard next the.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
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Speaker 3 (20:02):
Yes it is.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
I don't think we're not celebrating that before eight o'clock
this morning, Duned and also Mike. As a fellow petrol head,
I had to comment on one a magical weekend. We
had V eights if one Indy cars this morning. Some
fantastic racing, but the cherry on the top had to
be grand to as one for the road. What a
brilliant piece of television cinematography, second to none, nostalgic entertaining
with some very poignant moments with the three realizing it

(20:23):
was the end of twenty two years of a unique relationship.
Would recommend to everyone to watch, even non car people,
just for the beautiful scenes of the Zimbabwe landscape. Thank you,
John six forty.

Speaker 12 (20:34):
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mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Great tide, Richard Arnold, good morning, good Wing, Make Cats
and Dogs.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
And blind right.

Speaker 19 (20:47):
Yeah, we have only a statement from the Trump campaign
on the latest development. You just mentioned that there were
gunshots fired within the vicinity of the former president in Florida.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
He was just leaving his Florida golf course.

Speaker 19 (20:59):
Secret Service said to be responding. Of course, we have
learned much about the botched Secret Service security at the
July thirteenth event in Pennsylvania, haven't we where Donald Trump's
e was grazed by a bullet and a Trump audience
member was killed. Meantime, another bomb threat has been delivered
in a small town of Springfield in Ohio, has forced
the town's two hospitals to shut down, while some government

(21:21):
buildings and two elementary schools also were evacuated. All this
leading city officials in the town to call on the
leading politicians to stop these wild and baseless claims about
Haitian immigrants eating dogs and cats. To claim that the Trump,
of course raised in the presidential debate after his running
mate j. D. Vance spoke of Ohio Governor Mike DeWine says,

(21:43):
all this eating dogs and cat stuff is quote a
piece of garbage, simply not true. He said a short
time ago.

Speaker 20 (21:49):
These discussions about Haitians eating dogs and cats.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
And other things and needs to start well.

Speaker 19 (21:55):
Trump has been repeating all of this out on the campaign,
and he said of the bomb threats in Springfield.

Speaker 15 (22:01):
I don't know what happened with the bomb threats.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Bomb threats? What bomb threats?

Speaker 19 (22:06):
While his deputy JD. E. Vance was all over the
TV talk shows today, including CNN whereas you've been hearing,
he doubled down Trump style and called the host Dana
Basher's questions disgusting and spoke of her as being a
democratic propagandas quote unquote, they spent many, many minutes attacking
each other. And here's just a teeny part of it.

Speaker 15 (22:25):
I agree.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
You don't want to talk about policy.

Speaker 17 (22:27):
Now what I want to talk about?

Speaker 21 (22:28):
What I want to talk.

Speaker 4 (22:29):
About instead of about the fact.

Speaker 19 (22:31):
Senator, it was.

Speaker 6 (22:32):
Your distraction if you were the one who started talking
about the East Stars.

Speaker 19 (22:37):
And on and on went. That led to the follow
on interviewee Pennsylvania's Democratic Governor Josh Shapiro.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
Remarking this that was Bonker's Yeah.

Speaker 22 (22:47):
Not.

Speaker 19 (22:47):
The only unusual thing is his campaign seems to be
on the skids. The former president invited a nine to
eleven conspiracy theorist to the nine to eleven memorial at
Ground Zero as you know last week, drawing criticism from
a number of Republicans. She called the attacks quote an
inside job, and flu to the event on Trump's plane
and spent a deal of time with him. Later, Trump

(23:09):
claims no knowledge of her racist, sexist, conspiratorial rants on
x where Elon Musk had reinstated her, or her description
of Islam as a quote cancer, while Trump himself was
fixed on other issues of our time, issues of moment,
writing on his social media site in all caps that
he hates Taylor Swift and.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
We got the nine to eleven responder speaking for the
first time.

Speaker 19 (23:31):
Yeah, boy, this is a moving story. Speaking of September
the eleventh, Kevin Shaffer saw the attacks in the World
Trade Center from a Pentagon command site. Then, of course,
the Pentagon was hid, and Shaffer was right in the
line of attack. He says the blast set him on fire,
and around him were the bodies of all those from
the plane and of one hundred and twenty five others
who were killed inside the Pentagon itself on that day.

(23:53):
Shaffer says he struggled to move and clawed his way
out in the darkness, where he found a sergeant who
was alive, and he cried out to this and for help.
He says, his injuries were extensive.

Speaker 23 (24:02):
The pain of the burns was beyond description. They I
likened them to the color of white and white hot
pain is really the only way to describe it.

Speaker 19 (24:12):
Well, almost half of his body was severely burned, and
that included some internal organs which were treated eventually by
experimental methods.

Speaker 23 (24:19):
They really had to introduce some novel techniques to break
down the infection of my lungs and fight them off with.
But they essentially used live maggots that they had bred
in laboratories to be sterile to eat the infections off my.

Speaker 19 (24:32):
Arms, novel maggots to eat the deadly bacteria. That's pretty
remarkable stuff. Somehow he came through it all, and he
joined the CIA and wound up in the very small
unit that actually tracked down a summer bin Lada. He
and his mates watched the assault on the bin Laden
compound in the same way that we saw in those
famous photos of then President Obama and his team watching.
He saw bin Laden's body being taken out, and when

(24:52):
he got home that night, he sat with his wife
to hear the presidential announcements.

Speaker 23 (24:56):
She was on my hand and we didn't say a word.

Speaker 15 (24:58):
No words.

Speaker 19 (25:00):
Kevin schaff has been laden.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Sago reached full circle.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
So he went so mate preshued at Richard Arnold Stateside.
Just I alluded to the Tesla semi crash. They've been investigating.
This happened back in twenty seventeen. So when I say
a semi, a big truck, So it's a Tesla battery truck.
So the National Transportation Safety Board has been investigating the
cause of this particular crash and more importantly fire for
a number of years, and they released their report over

(25:23):
the weekend. Anyway, the fire closed a major artary of
California's into State eighty for fifteen hours because when evs
blow up and burn, they burn big time, and the
first responders cal Fire used fifty thousand gallons of water
over fifteen hours to put this thing out. The only

(25:44):
other ironic thing was the company's battery factory is in
a place called Sparks.

Speaker 3 (25:50):
In Nevada. Turn Away from seven.

Speaker 4 (25:53):
Costing Breakfast with Beailey's real Estate, A.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Couple of things to make yourself feel good about life.
The Auckland Downtown crime the government was sprewking yesterday. They've
got that largely under control. There's a very nice story
about Madihal but Grammar this morning. The phone ban is working.
There's a change in culture and schools in this country.
And then we get the US News and World Report
on the ten best countries for a comfortable retirement. So
they looked at eighty nine different countries and seven attributes.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
What do they look at?

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Where they looked at the affordability, They looked at a
favorable tax environment, was it friendly a place where I
could live? And did it have a pleasant climate, respect
for property rights, well developed public health systems. So they
looked at all of those things that they came up
with ten best places in the world to retire. We
always go ten through one because it's super exciting that way.
Tenth best place in the world to retires Luxembourg. Ninth

(26:40):
is Sweden. The Netherlands come in at eight, seven as Denmark,
six as Canada, five is Spain, four is Australia, Three
is Portugal. Oh it's getting exciting, isn't it. Isn't it
getting exciting? Number one is Switzerland. Aren't we miss out?
But we're number two? Second best place in the world
for a comfortable retire If I'd asked you that before

(27:01):
I gave you the results, would you have said that, no,
you would not five away from seven for the ins
and the outs.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
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to the next level.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
There is the value of the outside looking in.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
You see grass is always green and all that sort
of stuff. This is the week we get another reader
on our economy. Thursday morning, GDP figures released for the
June quarter, that's Q two April, May and June. The
economists what are they saying? Well, the majority say we
can expect what they call this rolling mall recession to continue.
One quarter of flat or slightly negative growth has merged
seamlessly into another. So Westpac they're predicting a drop of

(27:36):
zero point four for Q two for the zero point
two percent increase the Q one Here wee banks say
they're in for zero point four down as well ASB
forecasting a drop of zero point three, A and Z
positively upbeat. They're predicting just the backwards movement of zero
point one. Bear in mind, this is better than what
the Reserve Bank were predicting in their August monetary policy statement,

(27:57):
they say we're likely the head towards zero point five
for Q two. So the question is, and this is
the important part, because it's only part of the picture.
If Q two goes backwards, which it almost certainly will,
you then ask yourself, well, what about this present point
in time, this Q three that were in July, August
and September. Are these last three months any better than

(28:20):
the previous three months in Q two? And the answer,
of course to that is no. So at that point
you've got two quarters in a row of negative growth,
and that, my friends, is called a recession. Another one
that means we will have been in recession three separate
times in two years.

Speaker 15 (28:36):
Now.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
This morning's task, if you're not going to school because
you've been roster at home because there are no teachers,
is to look up how many countries in the world
are there that we would even remotely compare ourselves to
that have had three recessions in two years? And I
can fairly confidently tell you that, having done a little
bit of that work myself, there are none. So in

(28:57):
other words, we are singularly the most economically inept country
on the planet in terms of countries that we would
compare ourselves to. No one has managed to do what
we have done economically, Thanks very much Labour twenty twenty
through twenty twenty three. And then we get to the teachers,
all of whom are gone home sick. Anyone's got kids

(29:19):
knows this. The number of times your kid spends in
front of a reliever seems unbelievably abnormal, to the point
where you ask, as we have at our house many times,
does anyone turn up to school at all? Erica Stamford,
the Minister of Education, on this after the News, which
is next.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
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Speaker 2 (29:47):
Morning seven past seven. Just a update you on the
Trump situation. On his golf course. He was on the
fifth hole with the playing partner. They heard the pop
pop pop of some guns. Turns out it's an AK
forty seven Secret Service. We're on it with drone. They've
got a car, they've surrounded the car, they've found the gun.
They don't know if anyone's in the car because there
was a gap in time between when the gunshots were
heard and when they worked out the car might mean something.

(30:11):
So they've got the car surround it. At the moment,
they don't know if anybody's in it. Everybody's safe, but
that's where we're at currently. Now back out, we'll keep
you in touch. Obviously, more trouble in our classrooms. Government's
moving to all our unregistered teachers to relieve classes. Unions
don't like it, of course. The claim is classroom is
going to be flooded by teachers not across the curriculum.
The Minister is Eric at Stanford, who's with us. Good morning,
good aim. From personal experience, the amount of time that

(30:34):
kids sprend in front of believers is insane. What's the
problem in the education system. Teachers get sick or we
don't have enough teachers.

Speaker 16 (30:42):
What we're experiencing at the moment is a huge increase
in teacher sickness. It's compounded with teacher release time that
there's more of and also teaches out in the classrooms
through professional learning and development. And so we've seen us
here a mass of spike and the need for reliever teachers.
We have more reliever teachers, but we've seen a huge
spike and demand for them. And the problem we've got

(31:03):
this is a whole lot of great ex teachers out
there have recently retired or recently left, have a baby
who we want to get back in the classroom, and
that that's what these changes are all about.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
How could the union subject to that?

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Have you were once a teacher, The fact you're no
longer registered doesn't make you not a teacher anymore, does it.

Speaker 16 (31:18):
Well, it's surprising from the unions. Chris Abercrombie is a
smart guy. We get on quite well. I don't know
why he's letting the truth get in the way of
a good story this time. I mean, you're exactly right.
There are a whole bunch of incredible teachers out there
that don't forget how to teach. And actually, when we've
got a real need right now, we've got Arewa College,
We've got other colleges who are rostering home kids because
that's the alternative, like we roster home kids, or we

(31:39):
say hey, if you've been a teacher in the past
in the last few years, come back, will pay your registration,
will pay you to be a limited ability to teach teacher.
Come back into the classroom and help relieve us so
that we can have these kids.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
In class Is it a solution? Do they want to
do it? Do we know or not?

Speaker 16 (31:55):
Well, we know because I've been traveling around the country
and I've been talking to teacher associations all over the country.
I was down and a cargo just the other day,
amazing principles down there. They said to me, Erica, We've
got a whole bunch of great teachers out there.

Speaker 17 (32:07):
Ex teachers.

Speaker 16 (32:08):
It's too expensive for them to come back, it's too cumbersome.
They don't want to do all the teacher of fresher courses,
which I worry that there's limited value.

Speaker 24 (32:16):
In those as well.

Speaker 16 (32:17):
We just want to get them back in the classroom.
And you need to trust us, by the way, mister Stanford,
to get these guys back in the classroom, the ones
that are excellent, previous teachers, and I do trust them.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
Your original answer about the illness the time out of
the classroom, is there something profoundly wrong with the system
in itself that teachers aren't in front of the students
more often or not.

Speaker 16 (32:39):
Well, the primary school teachers are out of the classroom
more on classroom release time. That was negotiated by the unions,
and of course that's their means. We need more relievers
to cover them. And the more relievers we have relieving
more than we suddenly need relievers for the relievers once
they get to about point eight the teachers, so it's
compounding on us and plus what we didn't expect this
here is these massive increased levels of sickness. So it

(33:02):
is an issue. But as I've always said, I can't
managic cup teachers overnight. It takes me what three four
years to train them. This is a short term solution
while we work with the Teaching Council to work on
a more longer term solution, which we're looking at a
reliever teacher special registration to make it cheaper, easier and
faster than Back in the country.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
I'm assuming you're up this morning with the Mount Albert
Grammer coverage. The principal says the phone banned different subjects,
same broad area. They've noticed a quote significant shift in
culture since banning cell phones, so that's a win.

Speaker 16 (33:35):
Yeah, we're seeing that all over the country. I mean,
there was a little bit of grumbling from especially kids
like my daughter straight away that actually we're seeing really
positive results from all of the principles I teach to
and actually interestingly the kids as well. And the biggest difference,
as we know from research is our low sociosomic girls
and their mental health and that's a massive one.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Indeed, appreciate time America stand for the Minister of Education.
By the way, David Seymoura done if you pick this
up on Friday. I don't know why I waited for
a Friday to launch it, because I got buried over
the weekend. The allegation is teachers and nicking sandwiches from
kids in the school lunches, and he wants an investigation.
Teachers are stealing the sandwiches.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
It's eleven past seven, as skagging a lot of this
this morning.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
The unions and Nzei Michael the biggest impairment progressive education
in this country, I tend to agree. More good news
are downtown Auckland crime levels dropping first half of the year.
We find out serious assaults a down twenty two percent.
The Police Association regional director Murray Fenton's with us Murray morning,
my own am I OK this morning very well, indeed,
thank you. How much is this simply about an increased presence,

(34:36):
you put more cops on the streets. This is what
happens versus the coordination that I'm reading about between the
various agencies who are now helping out.

Speaker 15 (34:46):
Look.

Speaker 18 (34:46):
I mean, the increased presence has setting made a huge difference.
And around the streets, I mean, the exposure I gets
to visitors withiny Zeland has been huge. Incenesters that is
coming into the country. We've seen some great responses from
people that were interacting Muhammed daily basis good.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Can you see it and feel it when you're downtown
Aakland for people listening to this around the country, can
you actually see it?

Speaker 25 (35:10):
Oh?

Speaker 18 (35:10):
Absolutely, It's really reassuring to be walking around the street.
I'm actually working that beat section at the moment in
the city. I'm over there for about six months, and
it's really refreshing. It's really exciting because our international visit
is coming up to us. When we're walking around the streets,
our local people are business people, our retailers. We're getting
support from so many different types of people, you know,

(35:33):
from teenagers right the way through the etherly people, the
inner city people, that dwelling city, even some of the
homeless people are giving us some really good feedback in
relation to the way in which our presence has actually
termed and realized aroun in the way in which we've
assisted them in an alternative to the city life doyles

(35:54):
they've had.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
In the past.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Fantastic, So Win Wilder, Murray appreciate very much. Murray Fenton,
who's the Police Association regional director. It's thirteen minutes past seven,
ask why can you have Hipkins and Robinson on again
and hold them to account for the consequences of their
debt and spend that we're all paying for now? Hipkins,
who believes more tax and borrowing, excuse me as the
answer to the recession as government caused. It's extraordinary, isn't No.

(36:15):
I'm not going to have them on because you know
what they'd say. There was no rule book, there was
no playbook. Then we come to what Peter dunewright over
the weekend, which is well worth talking about, which we
will after seven thirty. Mike, why do we wait so long?
Very good question, It's asked every time, and I've got
the answer. Why do we wait so long for the
June GDP figures it's like being back at school in
a history lesson it's so true.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
And the answer is the Stats department. They don't have
the resource.

Speaker 2 (36:38):
Most countries around the world put out one a monthly figure,
and by putting out a monthly figure two you much
more up to date than we are. So we it's
all retrospective and it's nothing. And I talked to Grant
Robinson about it many many times. If you're a regularly
you would have heard me ask and he goes, yeah,
it's not a bad point. We must do something about that.
But he didn't obviously, and so we have to wait.
But all it is is resource more people than stats

(36:59):
could solve.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
Can we not?

Speaker 3 (37:01):
I don't know the lotto computer or something to it. Yes,
fourteen past seven.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
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Speaker 2 (37:11):
At be Mike, surely if someone is a teacher, the
government now pays for the registration, then they're now a
teacher again makes sense, short term mess, It does perfectly sensible,
and that's what the minister was trying to explain, Mike.
So the new school lunch menus must be good of
the teachers and nicking them, and we've saved hundreds of
thousands of.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Dollars as well. Very good point.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
Seventeen past seven, right, new stats on our EV market
the show they can barely give them away these days.
News figures suggest this year just one and eleven cars
are electric. That includes hybrids. By the way, which I'll
get to this is left important stuck with a lot
of stock. They can't move, the important motor vehicle industry
boss Greg EPs as well. There's Greg morning to you.

Speaker 25 (37:45):
I think, Mike, how's it go?

Speaker 15 (37:46):
Very well?

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Indeed, the car market generally versus the EV market specifically,
can we differentiate the two out or not?

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Really?

Speaker 19 (37:54):
This year?

Speaker 25 (37:55):
No, not really, Mike, it's been it's been pretty hard
across the board. Ought to have been down this year.
They're down from from last year, and a lot of
a lot of the guys in the industry are really
just hanging on.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Yeah, the lack of difference. This is my bug bear
because I'm a car guy. So when I see reportage
of the so called electric vehicles electric to me as
a BEV. Everything else is a hybrid, and they've got
to be delineated out, don't they, because a hybrid is
a completely different experience from a BEV, isn't it?

Speaker 22 (38:26):
It?

Speaker 25 (38:26):
Is what the government's done is they've they've said anything
that plugs in. So you have your beds, as you say,
your battery electrics, and then you've got your plug in hybrid,
see the ones that have both the petrol engine and
and a battery. And then you have your petrol hybrid,
which is the first self contained system that is just

(38:46):
you put petrol of it, but it has the regender battery.

Speaker 2 (38:50):
Is the plug or the architecture required to plug something in?

Speaker 3 (38:53):
Is that the hindrance or not.

Speaker 25 (38:57):
It's it's a bunch of things. I think that the
really have put us in a bad spot here. One
it's been the economy, it is the infrastructure, it is
the cost of putting in. For example, you can do
the trickle recharge and just plug into your normal wall socket,

(39:17):
but that's that's not really the best way to do it.
So people are really encouraged to put in the charging ports,
those sorts of things. And then there's just the charging
across the country where while that's been built out pretty
well over the last few years, where we nowhere near
that sort of coverage of charging to make people feel

(39:39):
comfortable about using evs all the time.

Speaker 2 (39:42):
And then we've got the international issue with any number
of manufacturers now saying what's we got ahead of ourselves?
That sends a message. But I'm sitting there thinking maybe
maybe not, and I suddenly see four REVOLVERO whatever, going yeah, no,
it's not quite what we thought it was. I'm going
to go, oh, well, I won't worry then, aren't I?

Speaker 25 (39:57):
Yeah, you see everyone, everyone's actually here to hybrids now.
About forty three forty five percent of the used imports
that we're bringing in this year have been hybrids. Hybrids
are a really solid technology that've been around. They reduce
carbon output by about half of the normal vehicle. And

(40:18):
I think EV's just just weren't there. You know, we
went into EV's there. They're a great solution for the future,
but the world wasn't ready to supply US evs at
a cost that New Zealand could afford.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Couldn't agree more well done, Greg, appreciate it very much,
Greg epps the FI at five hundred E they paused
production of that in Europe. That's the latest announcement from
Fiat over the weekend. Stillantis owned Fiat, they can't sell them,
so they've stopped making them for now, and when they
can sell them, they'll presumably restart making them seven twenty one.

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email directive the way they did on Friday over race,
there is something profoundly wrong with this country. Essentially, it
says the public service read health, education, Justice, welfare cannot
act on race. Cannot see race as an individual entitlement
that allows services or money or support to be determining
by way of a criteria. This is part of the
coalition agreements, as indicated by ACT.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
In New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
First National Party supporters might want to ask why they
didn't have it as part of their criteria as well.
The idea that one race trump's another is absurd. It's unfair.
It leads nowhere good if you're after good race relations
and the harmonious existence. Now, the Murray Party called it
anti Maarri, which shows their level of ignorance. Unless the
Murray Party argues Murray deserve things that no one else gets,

(42:45):
and I don't think even they would be that extreme.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
We're all equal. Basically, we are all equal.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
I've never been able to ascertain why that concept is
so hard to grasp the fact it's taken the government
this long to issue the SEJCT must also be of concern.
David Seymour suggested, it's a complex has it how What
we also need to be concerned about, as we saw
last week, is in Hawks Bay pushback. So for a
so called colorblind public service, we've got nothing of the sort.

(43:12):
You can't hand out health based on race, and yet
that's exactly what they were doing. You can't unilaterally invent
MARI seats at council level, and yet counsels are threatening
now lawyers in a local body sort of version of
a tenty because the government's changed the law. Meantime, the
Waititangage Tribunal continues to pump out findings like confetti race

(43:32):
unfairly dealt with cripples countries. We have enough to worry
about these days without something or someone that really is
so simple to administer. We are all equal, We all
have equal access to everything, democracy, health, education, and welfare
need not race. How hard can it be asking will

(43:56):
a these might become the beta of the beta BHS
here a good question, Mike kidrive plug in hybrid never
again as the range is nowhere near The manufacturer claims, yeah,
but that's the same with petrol if it depends that
you drive the thing, of course, And of course, what
it comes down to when I mentioned the at five
hundred e what it comes down to is hybrids of
the future, not even necessarily plug in hybrids. Who needs
the architecture, Well, it's been two or three thousand dollars

(44:18):
on a bit of architecture in your garage that may
or may not work. What's the point of that when
you can get a hybrid? And that's why people buy
hybrids because they save you. It's not about saving the planet.
They'll save it as and a poll people go, h plutely,
I want to save the planet, it's very important. Well,
it's actually about saving fuel. You want to spend less
money on fuel, and who can blame you? Meantime, in
a Prius fifth generation Prius, this guy drives from Los
Angeles to New York the other day. He averages ninety

(44:41):
three point one five eight miles per gallon, ninety three
breaks the Guinness Book of Records. Not only does he
break the Guinness Book of Records, he breaks it by
more than twenty miles per gallon. So that's that's some
good motoring. Then we come to the workplace law. This
is the u the thing, this is the angsty gig economy,

(45:02):
the unions. Once again, we'll talk more about this shortly.

Speaker 1 (45:06):
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Speaker 2 (45:15):
How about the Warriors are not not the team on
the field because lested about that this particular year the better,
but their numbers off the field are a little short
of astonishing. It's one of those rare scenarios whereby they
published over the weekend, they're numbers for the season that
a company, a team, an entity that doesn't do that
well still smashes it for the bottom line, thus leading

(45:38):
you to ask the question if you're making more as
much money as you possibly can because they sold out
and they're the first NRL side to ever sell out
for the entire season, you can't make any more money
than selling out unless you charge more for tickets anyway,
they made history first team ever to sell out completely
the entire season. Average attendance for the tem home games
was twenty three, five hundred seventy eight, which is surpassing

(46:02):
the team's previous home attendance record. So every single game
on average twenty three, five hundred and seventy eight.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
That's loyalty.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Noise levels which I didn't know that they monitored on
a regular basis, they regularly exceeded one hundred and ten discibels.
That's loud eighty eight percent of the crowd satisfaction through
the gates. So even though we went too often to
watch them lose, we were still satisfied, which.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
I don't think that's very motivational for the team, is it.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
No, No, you're just going on. It doesn't matter what
they do.

Speaker 15 (46:31):
Yeah, we'd love you anyway.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
It's a record crowd. We had a good time.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
What was the score? I don't know as much. Well,
it's not like you'd bring up your kids that way,
is it. I've always told my kids, look perform or
you're out.

Speaker 15 (46:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Exactly thirty four percent of surveyed patrons traveled from outside Auckland.
That's a fun stat So a third of the crowd
came from outside Auckland. Eighty four percent traveled exclusively for
the game. So they're bringing people from outside Auckland for
the sole per of going to watch the Warriors. How

(47:02):
many other sports that could claim that? I mean once
in the years.

Speaker 5 (47:05):
I mean it's not surprising because of course, you know,
once you finish it, now it's smart that you've got.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
All the nightlife around there.

Speaker 3 (47:10):
Yeah that's true. I mean, why wouldn't you make a
week end of it?

Speaker 2 (47:14):
Eighty percent of waste diverted from landfill equating to forty
thousand CAGs.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
I mean it's made up stats, Yeah, that's true. Twenty
two minutes away from eighteen.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Small sport actually in utomicry box after the Andrew sevil
go he helped meantime, workplace rules are in for a
shake up. Government are looking to change the Employment Relations
Act to make it easier to to find who's an employee,
who's a contractor. Workplace Relations and Safety Minister Book van
Bulden is with.

Speaker 3 (47:44):
Us on all of this. Very good morning to you.

Speaker 26 (47:47):
Good morning mate.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
What's the time frame on this, because you're on the
program a couple of weeks ago and ask you the
same question. You're being all coy about it. Then, so
what's what's changed and what's the timeframe?

Speaker 26 (47:57):
Well, to see what this government has permitted to the
Coalition agreement is to provide more certainty for contractors and
employees about the distinction between contract arrangements. So we're clarifying
that under the law to provide a new gateway test
which says if you meet for criteria, then you will

(48:18):
be found as a individual contractor. So that means if
you've got a written agreement where it says written down
that you are an independent contractor and that's the relationship
that you can work for other people and have other
agreements that you don't have set hours, or if there
are set hours, that you can subcontract out and your
contract not going to be terminated because you don't want

(48:41):
to take on an extra task outside of it. Now
a business and a worker can meet all of those requirements,
then that's an independent contractor relationship above and beyond what's
in the current law. So what this does is it
provides a better clarity for everybody. So that's better for all.
Kiwis when I'm hoping to get this through, I'm hoping

(49:03):
to get this law into parliaments next year.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Okay, so does the law not do that with the
level of clarity you're happy with? And or is this
tied up with the uber situation? And or will this
new law with its new clarity necessarily mean that people
still don't go to court to try it on.

Speaker 26 (49:23):
Well, we know, we know there are a range of
businesses and workers who don't know whether or not they
are employees or contractors, or they're not sure, so they're
testing this under the courts because most of this has
been built through case law over time, so it's not
actually clear enough in the law how individual contract arrangements work.

(49:48):
So that's what we're here to provide that clarity for.
Because at the heart of this, we want kiwis and work.
We want businesses to be providing people with opportunity, and
we know that when you have a flexible labor market,
it has better productivity for everyone. I couldn't but that's
what we're here to provide for. But we know that
even with current cases, there's been a lot of uncertainty

(50:11):
in the business community and business confidence has been really
down under the last government. So we here to build
back business confidence and get more people into work with
certain arrangements.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Good stuff go well, well, it appreciate it very much.
The clearer you make it, the better it is. Brook
van Velden, Minister for Workplace Relations and Safety. There's a
woman unionist on the news last night who was going,
you know, why don't they wait until the courts? And
what what's never I've never understood about particularly unionists like
that is do they not understand the ultimate court in
this country is the government. You can go to court too,

(50:41):
you're blue in the face. We're seeing a lot of
this with the Waitangi Tribunal, which is not really a court.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
It's tribunal. It's got no teeth.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
But nevertheless, people just wander off thinking that they can
because they don't like the law of the day, they'll
try and change it. They get some sort of ruling
or judgment from the court, interventionist courts these days, and
that encourages people, of course. And this Uber case is
a classic and if you haven't followed it, do follow
it because four drivers are telling the rest of the
Yuber workforce that what they like and what they joined

(51:07):
isn't good enough and they want it different and it
looks like at this point, anyway, Uber's going to appeal.
I think they're going to appeal, But it looks like
at this point, four drivers beats out the hundreds of
other drivers who took on an arrangement that they were
perfectly happy with because the unions backed them. Free choice
A Remember that seventeen minutes away from.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
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Speaker 3 (51:33):
That'd be Mike Reequality.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
And I'm an academic and conservative one who keeps his
mouth shut on campus for fear of retribution, and I
have to say that some of my colleagues simply no
longer believe that everyone in this country should be equal.
These academics are so obsessed with decolonizing the country and
so obsessed with implementing the Treaty as a strict fifty
to fifty partnership between twenty percent Maray on one side,
eighty percent everyone else on the other, that they're absolutely
and got no problem with rejecting the whole idea of

(51:58):
equal suffrage, which isn't trying to the New Zealand Bill
of Right. This contagion has also affected our politicians. Remember
how Willie Jackson tried to sell us a couple of
years ago that one person, one vote democracy had moved
on his very famous line, it was too rigod text
appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
Probably.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
I'm just tossing up between the best piece of reading
locally I did over the weekend. One was Thomas Coglin's
reference to a book. There's a guy from Victoria University
Go called Professor Stephen Levine, who puts out a book
after each election, and he talks to a whole bunch
of people and they write a chapter, and the media
writes a chapter, and Thomas says he's written a chapter
for this particular book, and the leaders write a chapter

(52:32):
each Normally, he claims the leader's chapters are really boring
because no one wants to open up about what went
wrong or what they learned and give away too many secrets.
But he found David Seymour's chapter particularly interesting because David
Seymour was not happy with the way his campaign went,
and he explains how and why it went wrong in
his view, and that makes for fascinating reading, essentially in

(52:56):
a nutshell. He claims he picked too soon, which was
true because I remember talking to.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
Him at about it.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
The time there was a poll out had him at
eighteen percent, and he didn't believe he was at eighteen
percent or anywhere close. But for a while there they
looked at a very realistic fifteen to sixteen. They ended
up on the nine at eight and so that's basically
because they picked too soon. They burnt support. They were
a bit worried about New Zealand first, too worried, as
it turns out, about New Zealand first, and they should
have been worried about the National Party and the boat

(53:21):
bleeding from them.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
So read that it's well worth it.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
Then you get to Peter Dunn, this is equally good
tax and borrow plans will sink labour in twenty twenty six.
And what he does brilliantly is go back through history
of previous labor governments who have made the same mistake,
and they've all ended up the same way. What make
Hipkin so, what makes Hipkin's statement that government spending, debt,

(53:44):
and taxes will all need to increase under a future
labor led government even more extraordinary is that it is
precisely what the one term labor governments of the fifties
and the seventies did before they were overwhelmingly dispatched to
long terms in opposite and so Hipkins not bright enough
to read history or understand it. But Peter is so

(54:05):
read his piece, and that is why. And I've already
said it. You don't need to be a rocket scientist
if you're going to much into twenty twenty six. The
way Hipkins allegedly seems to want to in an economy
against an economy and a government, You've started to see
it over the weekend with the things like the crime
stats in Auckland. You're starting to see the Mount Albert story.
If you haven't read the Mount Albert story, read that

(54:26):
one this morning. Mount Albert Grammar. They're seeing a changing
culture at their school with the phone band. Little bits
and pieces like that incrementally grow and cement reputations over time.
And it's entirely possible that the economy comes right next
year and by twenty twenty six it's steaming. So you're
going to have a government that's done a whole bunch
of stuff. A lot of people like enter Chris Hipkins,

(54:48):
who goes, hello, everybody, remember me, I'm here to tax
you more with a capital gains at a wealth tax.
How do you reckon that's going to go? And when
it goes really really really badly and they boot them out,
they will be consigned to at least a couple of
terms in opposition. And it's all there in the history
Boox according to Peter Dunn. So look that up and
read it, read it and learn. Ten away from Ete the.

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Speaker 3 (55:14):
Mike, I'm an academic at AU.

Speaker 25 (55:15):
Two.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
When staff apply for travel, if you have Pacific or
Marriy heritage, you get additional points and therefore are more
likely to get travel approved. The form is completed even
if you have external or externally funded travel. There's no
discussion about the ethics of this. We'll follow that up
because that's interesting. Seven away from make good news for
the tron also dneed and of course the airport's going
international again after jetstarstruck a deal to fly Transtasment as

(55:38):
of next year. So from Hamilton you're goin to have
roots to the Gold Coast in Sydney. It's been fourteen
years since Hamilton was international. The airport's CEO, Mark Morgan's
with US on this mark very good morning.

Speaker 27 (55:47):
To you, Good morning Mike, and helps her having me on.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
Board not at all. How long has this been in
the wings?

Speaker 27 (55:53):
Look, it's really been twelve months, but intensely since about.

Speaker 24 (55:59):
March this year.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
Who approaches who?

Speaker 27 (56:02):
Look for these conversations you often get it's generally the
airline that make approaches to the airport companies, although we
remain sort of alert and open to opportunities. But in
this situation, yes, it was just and.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
Do you, having been international before, have the capacity I
assume you do to become international again?

Speaker 24 (56:24):
Yet we do.

Speaker 27 (56:25):
We are all of our aeronautical infrastructure, is there, our
runways long enough, and we have the northern end of
the terminal that was the international terminal and that would
be refitted over the next three or four months. So yes,
we are ready to go. And there are no issues
other than standing of course up the border agencies, and
that is all under finalization at the moment.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
Gold Coast and Sydney only, or Gold Coast in Sydney
with a BEW to going somewhere else potentially.

Speaker 27 (56:53):
Look, I think we would like we see this almost
as a beachhead. So that's our approach to this opportunity
that it places credibility back into the mighty White Katto,
not the tron Mike. And we see this as an
opportunity for future activity, whether it be future commercial services.

(57:13):
It provides a fail over service for other airports an
event of bad weather or runway closures. So generally it
just positions us for opportunities that we would not have
been able to consider without this current opportunity.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Do you see it as viable in the sense that
people from Wykatto go presumably to Aukland.

Speaker 21 (57:37):
That's right.

Speaker 27 (57:37):
Well, I think there's two aspects. There's exactly that aspect,
and we know that getting in and out of Auckland
is more challenging than it was. The White Katto is
the fastest growing region Hamilton City, so in the last
thirteen or fourteen years, the demographics have changed, so that
makes it a much more viable proposition. And so we

(57:58):
believe that you can't sure a comparison back to seven
or fourteen years ago. It is a different time and
a unique sort of set of circumstances now that provides
this opportunity.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
Middle of next year go, well, well, it appreciated very much.
Mark Morgan, who's the Hamilton Airport's CEO, and one assumes
a boon time for to who you are, because surely
the first thing you do when your jet start playing
Lands and Hamilton is go directly to the train or
as I just making that up four minutes away from eight.
Mike Act lost our votes when he stated he was

(58:31):
willing to give up cabinet positions to New Zealand first,
but meant making it into government.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
Colin's funny.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
You should say that you clearly haven't read the report,
and you should because as a potential ACT voter, you're
a directly effect. That's exactly what happened. So a couple
of things that Seymour admits is that when he sort
of talked tough, his assessment of his talk was that
he wanted his supporters to be reassured that Acts stood
for something and they could make change, and if they

(58:57):
couldn't make change, then they weren't going to be bad.
He miscalculated that, admits he miscalculated it because what you've
just articulated is exactly what unfold. The people went, We'll
hold on here. You know, why would I bother wasting
my boat in an MMP environment if I don't know
what I'm going to get.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
So a lot going on in sport.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
We've got this thing in the the the NPC, this
change of rules in round rugby, so we'll have to
look at this in the next half hour of the program.
Of course we've got the All Blacks coming up this
weekend as well.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
Sport is next.

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Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
Just out of the States.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
In the Trump situation, they have a person apparently in
custody and they are going to the police give a
briefing shortly. Just to keep you, keep you in touch
with what's going on there. I have eld Andrews sail
both with us fellows. Good morning morning. Make opening question.
I'm sending in a kitchen yesterday, right, what are you
doing in the kitchen having breakfast? So nothing untowards At
this particular point, music goes slightly astray. Playlist goes off

(01:00:56):
peace and there's a voice that comes on the speakers
that's not what we had programmed in. I go to Katie,
I go is this Gordon Lightfoot? And she looks it
up on the list and goes, oh my god, it's right.

Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
How did you know that?

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
And I said, because Gordon Lightfoot's got a fairly well
known voice and it's fairly easy to pick. She then says,
who is Gordon Lightfoot? And I go to the work,
Oh my god, and that particular conversation ensues. She then says,
ask Guy and Andrew, because they're my generation. Sorry guy,

(01:01:32):
they're my generation, and they if they know so, Guy,
have you heard of Gordon Lightfoot.

Speaker 24 (01:01:39):
Well, I've just aged thirty years, so that's tough to take.
I'm going to ask the same question, who is I
feel like I've heard the name O my god, but
I couldn't tell you who he is.

Speaker 13 (01:01:49):
Andrew, now I have good I think I'm correct in
saying he wasn't a one hit wonder, but he was
pretty close.

Speaker 17 (01:01:58):
Was it?

Speaker 13 (01:01:59):
The wreck of the Edmond.

Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
Fitzgerald or yep? Probably is most famous, if you could famous?
Who cares you reckon? This is more famous than the.

Speaker 24 (01:02:17):
The slightly more modern version of this is a lot
better than.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
First Who did the slightly more modern version?

Speaker 24 (01:02:22):
I can't remember. It be called Anastasia or something.

Speaker 13 (01:02:30):
It's a fantastic tune. He's got a very distinctive voice.

Speaker 3 (01:02:33):
That's what I see him.

Speaker 15 (01:02:37):
Have you got the record?

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Yeah, we need the wreck of I think that's the
quintessential song. If if he gets buried under one song,
it's the record. The Fitzgerald's incredible.

Speaker 13 (01:02:45):
Now just from me, it's very long tune. But you're
about to say you're in the kitchen, your playless switches
to trackside radio and you hear some clown giving an
inaccurate tip for the fifth fit to hear an ow so.

Speaker 24 (01:03:04):
And to be an accurate.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
So I would have just are you allowed to bet
guy when you're on television?

Speaker 7 (01:03:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 24 (01:03:11):
Yeah, but I don't tend to do a lot becau.
There's a bit going on.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
No, but as like you're getting a you're talking to
the jockey and you're going, you know, he can't.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Tell you what I'll tell you what guy?

Speaker 13 (01:03:23):
Was that guy with a jockey?

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
Well, they both tell you what guy? Okay, mate?

Speaker 25 (01:03:27):
Go?

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Well is that how it goes on trackside radio?

Speaker 24 (01:03:31):
Something like that? Mike the size of Now.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
Why are we here? I can't remember that right now?
Super Rugby Andrew?

Speaker 26 (01:03:42):
What is you?

Speaker 13 (01:03:42):
Zeil and Racing Board? Can you email Mike go?

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
I don't tend to do a lot of betting DearS anyway,
Super Rugby Andrew?

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
What's these new rules? What's a lucky loser?

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Very good question because it's one play, six, two plays, five,
three plays four yes?

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
And what's about? What's listen?

Speaker 13 (01:04:10):
Listen? The three winners go through yes, and the highest
seeded loser out of those six lucky loser out of
the high seated loser out of the three losers, goes through.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
So have we reached a new low for rugby in
this country.

Speaker 13 (01:04:26):
Well, now it's pretty cool and lucky. Look, they had
a chance to strip this competition back a little bit.
It's down to eleven teams. Twelve was the magic number,
probably like Super twelve and the good old days where
you played everybody once and then you had Semis in
a final. Not hard to understand. They done extremely well
in confusing the rugby audience set Again, this competition has

(01:04:50):
been through so many different iterations. This is just another
one and rugby needs a competition that's easy to understand.
That it's rule are difficult to understand. It needs a
competition that's easy to understand. This is because there are
six teams making the playoffs, primarily because they want an
Australian side, isn't it If it was top four, you

(01:05:11):
probably only have four New Zealand teams make the semis.

Speaker 22 (01:05:13):
Right.

Speaker 24 (01:05:15):
I agree with your point around they need to stop
changing the competition every year. But is it really that
hard to understand that the playoff system is not that
hard to understand? And in the same breath, I think
it's a good thing that if you finish top and
let's say you are to lose your quarterfinal or whatever
it's called, which would be rare. But if you are
to lose it, you get a second chance, So you
essentially get rewarded for being the top team in the competition.

(01:05:38):
I think that's a smart thing.

Speaker 13 (01:05:40):
But the fourth best team could lose and still go through.

Speaker 24 (01:05:44):
Yeah, I suppose that's true.

Speaker 27 (01:05:45):
I mean yeah.

Speaker 24 (01:05:47):
And the fact that six teams go through an eleven
team competition.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
That's when more than half the field qualifies your playoffs.

Speaker 3 (01:05:53):
That's insane.

Speaker 13 (01:05:54):
And I get it in the NRL, where the two
top teams or top four teams get a life, right,
I get that because they've this is completely different, although
it maybe.

Speaker 24 (01:06:02):
Slightly better at the moment. It's eight out of twelve.
So what's what's better six of eleven or eight of twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
I don't know what are the odds on that? Guy,
Good question, Guy, Havel Hendri. Several more in a moment.
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Speaker 26 (01:06:29):
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Speaker 3 (01:06:34):
Chagumi, don't write them mind listening.

Speaker 17 (01:06:39):
Said.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Question web scis of NOVEMBERT Loomy a lot of Sundown action,
and I think I'd change my view on that. Sundown
is probably the greatest song of his.

Speaker 3 (01:06:53):
But I mean, we're rolling them out here, guy, aren't we?

Speaker 27 (01:06:56):
No, we really know it's good.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
All Yeah, you can't forget about Sunday who did the
model version of Sundown.

Speaker 13 (01:07:02):
I got hope when I mentioned that he might have
been in one. Wonder I'll take that back.

Speaker 3 (01:07:05):
Yeah, taking it back right now.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
It's like one of you random sports from SEV.

Speaker 13 (01:07:12):
Has your production team hit any messages from the Small
People's Association?

Speaker 3 (01:07:21):
We just put it in the pile of complaints. Its
ever growing. Now the America's Cup. Are you following it guy?
Or not?

Speaker 15 (01:07:30):
Not?

Speaker 25 (01:07:30):
Really?

Speaker 24 (01:07:31):
Like I'm following it, but I haven't got up to
watch any of it. I've watched the odd piece of highlights.
I see it's at the semi final stage and a
couple of Cruis are about to go out. But to
be honest, and I think I said this the other
week when we were talking about it. Once it gets
to the actual America's Cup, I might have an interest.

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Right now, it's it's it's the Ins and Lunar Ross
are both up four, so it's a three yeah, so
one sided.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
Yeah, it's the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
And we don't know that Lunar Ross and then the
Os won't go you know, five or ten nil or
whatever they rate off against them. We don't know that
when they actually comes to the America's Cup it won't
be something nil as well, do we At the moment?

Speaker 13 (01:08:05):
You'd have to assume Luna Ross is a hot favorite
to race team Inzeed just you'd hope in the America's
Cup that there's some good competition. When they raced out here,
all raced in Auckland off the Gulf, I remember some
good jewels and some racing, some tight racing. That's just
not happening.

Speaker 15 (01:08:20):
But it's not.

Speaker 27 (01:08:22):
I was talking to a.

Speaker 24 (01:08:22):
Colleague yesterday and they put it pretty well. They've out
technologied themselves. There's too much technology now in the sense
that all they've kind of cared about is making it
so technologically advanced that these boats go so fast that
it feels like they have taken the competition side of
things out of it. You know, they're never going to
go back to the day where the boats were slow

(01:08:43):
and you had to hoist the spinnaker and you had
to drag the sail through the water and you could
lose thirty seconds doing that. Whatever it might be, they're
never going to go back to that. But they have
seemingly lost a lot of the competitive factor. Once a
team wins the start and gets out of the start box,
the race is more often than not.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
I would never go back, but you can't beat a
tacking jill.

Speaker 13 (01:09:04):
That's right, correctly, the grinders and attaching and yes, those
days have moved on, but they were and they were
very long races.

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
I think we abund that.

Speaker 13 (01:09:13):
But yeah, but at least and in some of them
you saw some amazing attacking.

Speaker 2 (01:09:18):
Jewels Montgomerys during some of those races.

Speaker 15 (01:09:23):
Right.

Speaker 13 (01:09:23):
And that's the other That is the other fact that
we don't have Pj's voice.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
No, And that's that's it's it's not the same. You know,
call me old fish, yeah, but it isn't the same.
How well built is David Nieker?

Speaker 13 (01:09:36):
Extremely well? I said on a couch and a hotel
lobby was in last week, right, just be no, I
was doing an interview, right. I must admit I did
suck it in through the eighteen minute interview.

Speaker 25 (01:09:50):
The abs.

Speaker 13 (01:09:50):
The abbs took a fair hammering.

Speaker 24 (01:09:54):
How many abs were we talking about here? Andrew?

Speaker 13 (01:09:58):
If you look at it close not that I said
at my desk all day looking at images of David Nika,
but if you look close to he's got eight yeah,
eight muscles. I've got like a twenty four pack at
the moment. But it's coming down.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Yes, he's in phenomenal shape and I'm glad he won't.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
I hope he's back. Hey, listen to either of you
guys seeing the F one this morning?

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
Yes, it's tell me just hand on hart guy, is
that the best race you've seen or not?

Speaker 15 (01:10:25):
Well?

Speaker 24 (01:10:25):
I was about to say, how many times have we said.

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
This season that it is getting better and better?

Speaker 24 (01:10:29):
But this is the best rash of the season. It
had it all. And then I mean, how can people
seem to be saying that the peer is and signs
crash that signs was that fault? See how anyone can
that it's fault yes, signs No, No, sorry, it's Signs's fault. No,
it's not.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
Pierre has had plenty of room to move and he
didn't have to get tagged, and Signs was in front
and he couldn't see it.

Speaker 3 (01:10:55):
So it's it's on period.

Speaker 24 (01:10:56):
If you watch the on board, he literally pauls his
steering wheel to the left, go straight into Peries into.

Speaker 13 (01:11:01):
The war right scientist, what's McLaren done?

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
Are they upgrades and the other the other car?

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
The Red Bulls aren't as competitive and I wouldn't underestimate
the sheer skill of both Norris and Pastri. I think
if you look at Piastre and what he did to
get to the lead this morning, that's as good a
driver as you will see an F one anywhere anytime.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
Anyhow.

Speaker 13 (01:11:24):
It's fantastic for the for the competition.

Speaker 15 (01:11:26):
Isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
Well McLaren are now leading Red Bull.

Speaker 24 (01:11:29):
Yes, I was about to say, and that's huge, and
I think we've said it in the last few weeks
as well. The pressure now has to massively go on
Christian Horner in terms of keeping his job.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
We were talking about that, I said to Sam earlier on.
I said, not necessarily, because he's won previously. See that
record counts. It might count against him because they don't
like him because of the way he's behaved during the season,
plus the fact all these other people, including new We
have gone, so he may be a sacrificial lamb. But
you know, just because you lose one season doesn't mean
you get sacked. But it's it's what it means is

(01:11:57):
it's gripping if you lose it from where you mean.

Speaker 24 (01:12:01):
They've completely lost their way in the space of about
half a dozen races.

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
And Liam Lawson this weekend apparently posting Paul.

Speaker 13 (01:12:08):
Was supposed to be this weekend, now next week him.

Speaker 3 (01:12:10):
All wait to see, but I think it's good news.

Speaker 13 (01:12:13):
Fingers fingers crossed. If one, drivers are quite smaller set,
you do they talk.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Like no, no, Well they talk with accents of course,
and some of them you can't you can't understand. But
I think I've done enough accents for one morning.

Speaker 24 (01:12:26):
Andrew, it's always it's always great to catch up with
both of you, guys.

Speaker 13 (01:12:32):
Got to get guys going to get back down to
the stables with his Rothman's and turf dikees. I will
let him go. Eh, good to.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
See Andrew Seville, Guy Havel.

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Speaker 15 (01:13:36):
Hosking.

Speaker 2 (01:13:37):
This is the latest from the Martin County Police firstpect's demeanor.

Speaker 28 (01:13:41):
I would describe as having a relatively calm, flat a factor,
was not displaying a lot of emotions. Never asked what
is this about Odyssey law enforcement with wine rifles, bluelights,
lock on on, never questioned it here was not on
when we took them out of the car. Of course,
we didn't do a search, and I was dis fact
that they're getting a search right now. The FBI will

(01:14:03):
take that car. We will transport it for them back
to Palme's carrying into their office.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
How good tea, He's awesome. West Palm Beats themselves are
about to speak and give a briefing on this. This
is unfolding in Florida as we speak. Will bring that
to you as soon as.

Speaker 3 (01:14:17):
We get it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:18):
Meantime, News in a couple of moments with the latest,
and then we'll get across the Tasman to murray Olds
in Australia here at news.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
Talk said B.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues is
the Mic Hosking.

Speaker 4 (01:14:29):
Breakfast with Bailey's real estate.

Speaker 1 (01:14:32):
Your local experts across residential, commercial and rural News Talk.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
Said B is a stout defense of the America's cup.
For God's sake, watch some America's Cup. You sound like
two nine year olds pretending they've seen a naked woman.
Luna ross versus American Magic was two seconds at the
finish inios Cane to Lingy.

Speaker 3 (01:14:50):
At the start. It's brilliant visit race.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
I saw they won by about two and a half minutes.
And winning the start does not mean you the end.
And what I can tell you without word of a
lie is both of these contests are at four nil,
each aiming four five nil, which doesn't make it. That
fact that at some point during the race it was
moderately interesting doesn't make the overall contest. But from talking
to my sister, who seems to know about these things

(01:15:17):
a because she lives in Italy but suddenly has got
passionate about yachting, there is tremendous up until now. Because
she was asking me she said, how much interest is there?
I said at this point minimal, And I said, what
about Italy? She goes reasonable, it's among the yachting community mainly.
But when she said, when Luna Rossa make the Cup,

(01:15:38):
it will go off. It will be a major deal
in that particular part of the world, which is interesting.
It's very good reading over the weekend immigration numbers. And
I know a lot of you don't like immigration. I
love immigration. I love immigration if it's done well, which
I don't know that we're doing it well at the
moment because there seem to be too many people coming
from the same places, which is namely China, the Philippines, India,

(01:15:58):
and Fiji.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
And those numbers that came.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
Out last week arrivals and departures, it's young New Zealanders
who are leaving, and it's people from China, India, Philippines
and Fiji who are arriving. Some of them I know
to be nurses on visus because we're short of nurses,
but then they can't get jobs because not hiring nurses
to despite the fact we want nurses. So there doesn't
seem to be a well oiled machine running at the moment.
But one of the reasons I like migration generally is

(01:16:24):
it drives growth. People bring skills, they bring jobs, they
open businesses, they spend money, etc. And the suggestion I'm
reading over the weekend, and of course we haven't talked
much about it, is as immigration slows, which it is
at the moment, what then happens is, of course the
economy is affected as well. So for all the times
that we don't like immigration because there are too many
people coming in, everyone will be going, oh, thank god,

(01:16:44):
there aren't so many people coming in. When people don't
come in, it slows the economy and none of that's good.
Twenty one minutes away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
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Speaker 3 (01:17:00):
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Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
So it's funny we go. Mat Murray Olds is back
from holiday.

Speaker 15 (01:17:09):
How are you, mister Hosking?

Speaker 21 (01:17:11):
Very good morning mate, pretty well, thank you, just back
from the UK inspecting stuff for you. I was looking
at that new but Lamborghini you wanted me to look
at in that lovely.

Speaker 15 (01:17:19):
Pastor blue, and I put the order in for you.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
Fantastic.

Speaker 21 (01:17:23):
I did have a word to President Macrome when I
was in France about as new Prime Minister.

Speaker 15 (01:17:27):
I thought you'd approve of that fairly much so as
right wing as you can go.

Speaker 21 (01:17:31):
Looks like a patrician, looks like you sh'll be wearing
a toga, So I think I've done a bit of
scouting on your behalf.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
Ah, you've come back in a fine fetal and as
a trip out of ten ten it was the time
of your life.

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
One you'd never go again.

Speaker 25 (01:17:44):
What was it?

Speaker 15 (01:17:44):
Oh, it's a ten.

Speaker 21 (01:17:47):
I was leading a group of listeners to my weekend
radio show around the UK and a cruise. We went
over to the Western Front, and then when they came home,
we stayed on in France and had a beautiful time
in Paris.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
Small can you say you go around the UK? And
I don't envisage people sailing around the UK because the
vast amounts a bit really a sort of a bit,
you know, a.

Speaker 15 (01:18:10):
Bunch of ports.

Speaker 22 (01:18:11):
You know.

Speaker 21 (01:18:11):
We flew to London, down to Southampton, left Southampton, around
the Cork, you know, holyhead, you get up to.

Speaker 15 (01:18:20):
Well where else? Did we stop at? Belfast?

Speaker 21 (01:18:22):
The Museum to the Titanic, Oceanic and Britannic and Belfast
is next level, my goodness, if you have any interest
at all in history about the Titanic, which is endlessly fascinating,
that museum is a masterpiece.

Speaker 15 (01:18:36):
It's magnificent.

Speaker 21 (01:18:37):
Around the rest of the UK, you know, down Scotland,
across the LaHave, in France, which and went to Money's
Garden in Viiviny, which was just beautiful.

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
Oh fantastic.

Speaker 15 (01:18:49):
I've got some cuttings.

Speaker 2 (01:18:50):
Is it because your commentary has been missing in the
Australian landscape that Dutton surged in the polls?

Speaker 21 (01:18:55):
I think I think so because he has He's making
every post winner. And as Peter Dutton's rising, I know
you're a fan of Dutton, I'm not. But as Dutton's rising,
the wheels are falling off Alban Easier bit and last
Polot because I did have one of your nerdy holidays.
I mean, I was on the net all the time
when I'm away looking.

Speaker 15 (01:19:14):
At stories and.

Speaker 21 (01:19:17):
It's clear, Look, Alban Easy's losing a lot of paint
as we get ever closer to an election, and you know,
are we going to have an early election? It's all
going to depend on the Reserve Bank. Well, they're having
a fight with the Reserve Bank. They don't need it.
Just looks at the government's trying to bully the woman
who's in charge of the Reserve Bank, and that's not going.

Speaker 15 (01:19:35):
To go over very well.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
Exactly, firms backed by a sydant, That's what I'm reading.

Speaker 3 (01:19:41):
While you're away.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
Firms backed by a Sydney Underworld Link businessman involved in
buying illegal guns in the former boss of Victoria's Common
chero Biki gang secured critical backing from the CFMEU, facilitating
their access to major construction projects, including taxpayer funded sites.
Just when I could think this whole union thing gets
any worse, it does.

Speaker 15 (01:20:03):
Of course it does.

Speaker 21 (01:20:04):
And this has been going on for a long long time,
not just under labor, It's been going on forever. But
the governments have either been complacent, reluctant to gutless, and
this has been a significant problem, adding costs to.

Speaker 15 (01:20:18):
You know, the people who are building the.

Speaker 21 (01:20:21):
Construction sites, or the governments who are actually funding a
lot of these projects because it's government money as well.

Speaker 15 (01:20:28):
And what you've got is a union.

Speaker 21 (01:20:31):
Say the CFMU, the construction arm of the cv FM,
that's now an administration.

Speaker 15 (01:20:35):
Of course they're threatened.

Speaker 21 (01:20:36):
To go to the High Court to challenge the government's
right to put them in administration.

Speaker 15 (01:20:41):
But you've got endless lists of crooks.

Speaker 21 (01:20:43):
You've got blokes with more tattoos than you can I mean,
look these blokes look responsored by Walt Disney. They turned
up in a building. So they've never held a hammer.
There would never bloody clue about how to use you know,
a drop sore. But they stand around with more muscles
you can imagine, you know, are getting paid and there's
clear evidence of how about this for hutzpah. There's a

(01:21:05):
dad and his son here in Sydney, the New South
Wales arm of the Construction of the Construction Union.

Speaker 25 (01:21:13):
Right.

Speaker 15 (01:21:13):
Dad and Dave were.

Speaker 21 (01:21:14):
Also dismissed when the union was put into administration. The
committee running the union has authorized three and a half
million dollars of union members' funds just to be siphoned
off and parked in a trust with a local way
to look after the legal fees of the father and
son are running a union. The son, i might add,

(01:21:35):
has never been near a building site. He is the
assistant secretary of the Construction Union here in New South Wales.
The old man's a builder if he's been on the
union books forever. But the sons come along as well.
The two of them have both gone, and now the
union members are about to pay the union the legal
fees of these two.

Speaker 15 (01:21:53):
You can't make it up.

Speaker 2 (01:21:53):
It's ridiculous, it's unreal funny enough We had the Ministry
of Education on the program this morning, and we've got
teaching problems in our system as well, and we're bringing in,
you know, teachers who've retired and bring them back into
the program. And I note that New South Wales doing
exactly it's it seems to be the problem here, Murray
is no one wants to be a teacher and is
that the same I'm assuming in New South Wales?

Speaker 21 (01:22:13):
Look but when he teachers have paid rubbish. There's no
respect anymore. I mean, you know we I don't know,
but I was a little bit older than you, or
more mature than you. When when when when we were young,
you had respect for the classroom teacher, didn't you.

Speaker 15 (01:22:28):
I mean it was just a thing you did.

Speaker 21 (01:22:30):
You looked up to the mums and dads used to
go along, and you know, the parent teacher was a
big deal. These days, no one gives a rats, no
one cares less. And that's such a and and teachers,
particularly primary teachers are just like, I don't know, classroom
cannon fodder. And they are bringing in people who have
retired and they're offering them little short term contracts and

(01:22:51):
the other the other thing that I despair about is
that you've got teachers who are completely unqualified for one
area of of you know, they may have been maths teachers,
they may have been teaching history. They've been called back
in to try and teach maths and science for goodness sake,
because no one wants to be a teacher. It's just
regarded so poorly by society. Unlike Finland, which has been

(01:23:14):
topping the OECD averages for teaching outcomes for education outcomes.

Speaker 15 (01:23:19):
For kids for years and years and years.

Speaker 21 (01:23:21):
Every teacher in Finland has to have a master's and
they are regarded the same sort of light as doctors.

Speaker 2 (01:23:26):
And interestingly, civics has been mandated or will be in
the curriculum rejig in New South Wales, so they're mandating civics.
So you got to learn about how the constitution works
and all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 15 (01:23:39):
That a bad thing either.

Speaker 2 (01:23:40):
I don't think it's a bad thing either, Murray. I
think it You and I sat down with a couple
of beers. We could probably put the world to rights
in fairly shortood because us, Murray. But we're brilliant together.

Speaker 21 (01:23:51):
Feeding into all of this, of course, is the endless
right wing whining about how you know the left is
dumbing down the classroom, and you know the no one's
teaching white Australian history's talking about Aboriginal Australian history, and
the two should be taught simultaneously.

Speaker 15 (01:24:06):
And I think I agree with that as well.

Speaker 3 (01:24:08):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
Here's the text for you. It took my kids to
the Titanic Museum in Belfast a couple of months ago.
Murray's right, it's worth the trip to the UK just
for that.

Speaker 21 (01:24:15):
Oh, it's magnificent, it is. It is so beautifully done.
There's a woman, missus Rice, I forget her Christian name.
She her husband had died. She went back to the
UK decided no, no, no, she wanted to go back
to North America, have five children and herself. The only
found her body that the little boys were never found.
She's buried in Halifax. It was beautiful.

Speaker 2 (01:24:36):
Good morning you mate, ketch up. Wednesday always Australia for us.
This morning it's ten away from nine.

Speaker 4 (01:24:44):
The hostal rapist withal.

Speaker 2 (01:24:49):
We're standing bive of the West Palm Beach people. I
don't think it's going to come in our time frame.
And by their demeanor, there's a couple of the warm
up acts who come in and sort of show everybody
what's going on and how it's going to work, and
the tremendous number hangers on, it doesn't look like they've
got something really edgy to tell us. I don't know
that what's happened this morning is I mean, as serious

(01:25:09):
as it may be with an AK fold, well, it
means is how many AK forty sevens are there in
Florida in any given day and how close was the road.
The main problem was Trump appears to have been on
the fifth as in the golf course, and the fifth
is the closest hole to the road. The road's only
a couple of hundred yards away. And if you've got
an AK forty seven, apparently the president becomes vulnerable at
that particular point in time.

Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
So there'll be some questions.

Speaker 2 (01:25:30):
Marks they've rounded a blowkeup, And that's about where we're
at at the moment. So that if that gets spicy
then I'm sure Kerry Slash the rest of them will
do it for you between nine and midday today. Can
I just remind you I was thinking about this as
aos cold pressing the grape for it over the weekend.
By the way, supply she's on the grapefruit front. I
have way more grapefruit than I can cold press introduced

(01:25:54):
another press.

Speaker 15 (01:25:55):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
I don't another press. I just need to either will
potentially drink a lot more grape for a jess. It's
a great gut sweeper grapefruit because it's full of fiber.
But you can only take so much of it because
it sits heavily on your stomach. If you ever drink
a proper glass of freshly squeezed grapefruit juice, it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:12):
Sits very heavily with you. Well it's sweeping, Well it's sweeping.

Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
It's a slow sweep anyway. The reason I'm telling you
this is Horticulture in New Zealand have launched this campaign
and awareness campaign. And I don't know why they needed
to do this, but they want to promote the idea
that we should all buy locally produced fruit and vegetables.
And is that not plainly obvious to everybody?

Speaker 3 (01:26:36):
I would have thought it.

Speaker 11 (01:26:37):
Was, but any they spent years training us that we
couldn't because they were selling them all overseas well.

Speaker 3 (01:26:43):
No, it's you, now, do you know why? They can
have it both ways? Can they guess what the.

Speaker 2 (01:26:46):
Hoart industry is worth of this country? Go on right now,
pick a number billions?

Speaker 3 (01:26:50):
How many? Seven and a half? That's correct? Well, Angli,
you didn't give me a chance.

Speaker 4 (01:26:54):
Sounds I was math.

Speaker 3 (01:26:56):
You would have got it wrong. And I don't have times.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
I don't have time to dig with people who get
answers wrong. Five minutes away from.

Speaker 4 (01:27:02):
Nine trending now with Camers Guarehouse, I'll praise vide would
sale on now.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
NFL Sunday in America, Chiefs Bengals. That's just begun. That's
the big game for the day. Aaron Rodgers. He's won
his first game as a Jet, which is good. They
beat the Titans, who are well, they're all right. The
Titans twenty four seventeen. Cowboys got thrashed. They went down
forty four.

Speaker 3 (01:27:21):
To nineteen to the Saints.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
Dak Prescott through two interceptions, got so bad they pulled
them towards the end of the game. He's the guy
got signed last week. I told you for sixty million dollars,
highest played quarterback in the game. So that's what you
get for sixty million dollars. A guy can't pass in
the right direction, so you pull them off anyway. Television
host called Skip Bayless, he's a Cowboy fan. This is
what he does when the Cowboys lose.

Speaker 22 (01:27:48):
Remember when Jerry Jones said he was all in to
fix his Dallas Cowboys after they gave up twenty seven
first half points at a home playoff game against Green
Bay that ended last season. Remember when I said, now
I'm now all out because Jerry did next to nothing
to go all in to fix this team. I just

(01:28:12):
had to sit and watch my Dallas Cowboys that I have.

Speaker 20 (01:28:16):
Loved since I was ten years old, with all my
heart and soul, ripped my heart out again in a
home regular season game.

Speaker 22 (01:28:26):
They've won sixteen of those in a row by giving
up thirty.

Speaker 20 (01:28:31):
Five first half points time, the all time record for
giving up points at home in any kind of game.
I told you so, I told myself so. Now I
God is my freaking field goal kicker number seventeen.

Speaker 3 (01:28:57):
It s just like my coscame worries of us. Hey,
that's us. Went well for Monday.

Speaker 21 (01:29:04):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
Rickon back tomorrow morning from six. Who's with us after right?

Speaker 22 (01:29:10):
Who?

Speaker 7 (01:29:11):
Oh?

Speaker 15 (01:29:12):
That'll be good.

Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
We'll look talk about as always. Happy days.

Speaker 4 (01:29:16):
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Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
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