Full Show Podcast: 17 February 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
New Zealand's voice of reason is Mike the mic Hosking
Breakfast with the range rover villa designed to intrigue and
use Tog's head blawning.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
And welcome another crack at firing up tourism. Europe is
in meltdown over the US approach to war in peace
to David Seymour overstep on teacher only days? Is this
lacing driver up the steps of education and the minister
who's called them out? Are the lads do the sport
this Monday morning, Richard Arde on the ste price, they
got twenty four US say as well, asking welcome to
the week seven past six. They call it a once

(00:30):
in a generation crisis. Summit Star is going to be
their macron call that Schiltz is rapeable out of the
JD Vance comments. The JD Vance comments, by the way,
that has put Europe into meltdown. We're a very good
example of what is good but also what is bad
about the Trump regime. His suggestion that Europe should really
be worried not about Russia or the Chinese, but the
pressure from within is actually quite a good point. All

(00:51):
he was saying for all those freaking out about the
move throughout Europe to the so called far right, ask yourself,
why what is it you're not hearing or seeing or
accepting that is leading to these outcomes electorally? So far,
so good. Then he went and gave Romania as an example,
a presidential race that is fairly widely accepted as being
a jack app backed by the Russians. So start with

(01:12):
a good point, mess it up with a shanky follow up,
not dissimilar to his boss who quite rightly pointed out
that what was going on in Gaza for years hasn't
and isn't working, but then talks about the Riviera and
something akin to an upper East side condo opportunity. Anyway, upshots,
the same Ukraine can be at the peace talk table. Ultimately,
Europe can't q meltdown. This is where the laziness and

(01:32):
complacency of Europe intersects with the financial might of America.
When you've funded the war, a war that's going nowhere,
you call the shots Europe has watched four three years now,
a conflict funded to a fraction of the extent the
Americans did. That means you give up a form of
legitimacy when you were browbeaten by the Americans into actually
forking out for NATO two that you said you would

(01:53):
but didn't. You've lost credibility. So when a big mad
ego maniac arrives in the White House, kis what You're
going to be, called out, shut out and forced to
finally wake up to your complacency. It'll all work out fine,
of course, this is what Trump does, pictures the absurd
and back pedals. But tell that to the Macrons and
starmezan Co. They are whitting their pants.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
News of the World in ninety six.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yes, I tid to meltdown Central as they gear up
the tomorrow. The Brits are spinning like a top.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
We all want the war to end, desperately want the
war to end. I think it's clear for that to
be a durable piece, Ukraine has to be at the table,
has to be part of that agreement. We believe Ukraine
is on an irreversible path to NATAL membership.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
That's not going to happen. That's the tried secretary. By
the way, the Toy is also loving the Ukrainians big time.

Speaker 4 (02:40):
NATAL allies and countries have effectively not just been supporting
Ukraine but effectively been paving the way for them to
become a member, and that is something that you know
has clearly been part of our collective focus.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Sort of related in Russia, Missus Novelni is drumming up
hate of lad one year on from a husband's death, even.

Speaker 5 (02:59):
Now a year after his death.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
He is trying to erase Alexis name from our memory,
to hide the truth about the murder, to make us
come to terms. But he will not succeed. To the
other war where Little Mark has arrived, possibly on his
way to Saudi Arabia to check to the Russians about
War number one, I meantime on War number two.

Speaker 6 (03:17):
What cannot continue is the same cycle where we repeat
over and over again and wind up in the exact
same place. Related to that, the President's been very clear
Hamas cannot continue as a military or government force.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
NETNYA, who could not be more thrilled.

Speaker 7 (03:32):
President Trump is the greatest friend that Israela has ever
had in the White House, and the visit in Washington
reflected that in every way, and you're visited here reflected
in everywhere.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Then in Britain, as we speak at the Royal Festival
Hall on South Bank, the lovies of Preening and pouting years.
It's back to time.

Speaker 8 (03:49):
You know, you've got tiny intimate dramas, you've got big
societal epic commentaries, you've got horror, comedy, musicals, animation. You know,
there's nothing that's not there, really, and.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
That is news of the world in ninety seconds. Give
you some Valentine's numbers out of America shortly, but we're
not reflected in the retail numbers which came out over
the weekend. Down. This was a surprise. They thought there'd
be a little bit of down, but there was a
lot of down. So inflation up, spending down in America.
Not good. Some did well though more in a moment
eleven past six.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
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Speaker 9 (04:28):
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Speaker 2 (04:31):
A reminder of from the old what could be file
small island nation, five millionish people, really successful New Zealand,
no Ireland, no Singapore. Yes, what did they grow by
last year? GDP growth four zero point four percent?

Speaker 10 (04:47):
Not bad?

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Is it year on you if you want to do
it year on year, it's actually five percent. Fourteen minutes
past six as possible. If your setting is the rights
to being, your attitude is correct, from Devon Fund's management,
Greg Smith. Morning to you, to Mike, this spending is interesting, isn't.
I go to the American numbers, but this experiential thing
seems to be real, doesn't it. You know, people would
rather spend their money on experiences, and Nearbnb's part of

(05:09):
that package.

Speaker 11 (05:09):
I guess yeah, certainly as an investors, certainly checking into
them on Friday, so shared up fourteen percent. That was
their best day all the ambient listed since twenty twenty.
So yeah, people after experiences. They saw our revenues up
twelve percent two point four eight billion for the quarter.
Four year revenues twelve billion dollars. That's a record. Next,
you also swung to a profit as well. It's almost

(05:29):
five hundred million there and they lost about three fifteen
million a year ago. Gross booking seventeen point six billion
and one hundred and eleven million nights and experiences have
booked on the platforms. That was up twelve percent, and
they've just been listening to users, Mike, so I made
over five hundred new features and upgrades, have done things
like verifying listings, hirding the top ten percent favorite Geast

(05:52):
experiences and then removed around about one hundred thousand low
quality listings, so they're certainly doing well. I'm looking to
investor for the two hundred to twenty and fifty million
dollars in the business, and they can certainly do that.
Free cash flow last year four point five billion dollars,
so they want to be the Amazon of vacation. So
it looks like they're heading on the right track. We're
going to get revenue for the current quarter of around

(06:13):
about two point two five billion, But hey, Mike, it's
not all about the money. They're also doing their bits socially,
so we'll see those terrible wide wildfires in LA. They're
nonprofit arm housed almost twenty thousand people, over two thousand pets,
and receive twenty seven million dollars in donations, including eighteen
million dollars from its founders. So ye're doing well and

(06:34):
also doing good nice.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
I like it. And then you get to luxury or
in this case, ultra luxury. Ultra luxury seems to be
working or is it just Ames that's working.

Speaker 11 (06:42):
Yes, it's the way to go, isn't it. The Cademy
reported it eighteen percent surge in fourth quarter sales, and
that was a head of expectations around about ten percent.
So it does are Luxtually goods making. They make those
birk And bags they go for twenty thousand US plus
and think you should get one for one hundred thousand.
If you want one with crocodile skin, they might, but yeah,

(07:03):
wealthy consumers, they don't seem to be put off by
the price. Their sales of the fourth quarter three point
nine to six billion euros, and we're doing particularly well
America and Japan both up twenty two percent. That's pretty stabbing,
but yeah, I guess the key point is that they
actually continued to outshine their rivals. You look at overa Mate,
they actually said sales growth was going back backwards. Luxtually

(07:24):
good sales last year down two percent. So you're China
being sluggish and global inflation and the like. And I
think part of it Mike is keeping their all through exclusivity,
so they limit their production each year to six to
seven percent, and they reckon things mon't change with tariffs.
In fact, they said they're going to probably put up
prices and they probably looks at these results they won't
have any trouble there. They're already looking to put up

(07:45):
prices six to seven percent. And yeah, regardless of what
happens of Trump and the light, then they're going to
keep France chuning out leather, Switzerland for watches, Italy for shoes.
So yeah, she's edge tied. Actually taking the mark capped
over three hundred billion euros, so they actually closing on LVMH,
which has two hundred thousand people on its head counts.
That's ten times more. So they could soon have in

(08:08):
the bag the title of Europe's most valuable company.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Fantastic. And the reason we can't afford Burkns is of
course because the price of food's gone through the river.

Speaker 12 (08:15):
What happened there, Oh my.

Speaker 11 (08:16):
God, it's pretty incredible. So inflation generally going down, but yeah,
not so food. So they're up one point nine percent
in January. That's the largest monthly r since July twenty
twenty two. It's a bit across the board as well,
so sixty five percent of the items and a food
basket were more expensive, and in fact, twenty percent increased
in price by five percent of more. So I suppose
you could say the currency is probably playing a bit here,

(08:37):
but yeah, quite incredible. So grocery food three percent high,
so we're not imagining those sort of higher grocery bills
each week. Milk sixteen percent higher than a year ago.
Five rod grams are but that's fifty two percent high,
six dollars seventy nine and you look not such a
happy Valentine's Day.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
For chocolate lover.

Speaker 11 (08:54):
They EVD price of two point fifty grams was five
dollars seventy two can for four bucks nine a year ago.
Of course, part of these cocoa prices they've been on
a tiar so growing conditions have been adversted in West
Africa in the light. But yeah, other stuff is gamp
as well. Fruit and veggie is up two point eight percent,
Broccoli mic fifty eight percent high ten bucks twenty five
a kg alcohol, alcohol, and tobacco that's going up as normal.

(09:18):
And outside of food, other things a game as well.
So at the pump, petrol prices that four percent, Diesel
up almost six percent, but it always the main bit
of good news was on if so internationally they fell
almost twelve percent, Domestic down one point three but yeah
it's under pressure. But on terms of the food prices
for sure, so yeah, perhaps a week of dollar it's
part of it. Fortunately, we have got the RBNZ this week,

(09:40):
and generally inflation I won't say that might, but inflation
is playing board as you've which also Quick had some
good news on the economy as well, their manufacturing sector. Yes,
spend it for the first time twenty three months. Yeah, beat,
it's like it's back. It was like we were never
in recession. Now, what are the numbers? So the Dow
was slip slightly on Friday, down point four percent, forty
four to five four success five hundred. That was flat.

(10:01):
Nastick up point four percent, forty one hundred down point
four percent, Nike down point eight percent. Hong Kong Tech
stocks on fire, Ali Barb with their partnership with Apple
hangs thing was ut three point seven percent. A six
two hundred up point two percent, eighty five five five.
That's a record index fifty. Vest is filling the love
on Friday at point sixty four percent twelve nine eight nine.

(10:22):
Commodity markets goal down forty five bucks, twenty nine hundred
ounce oil down fifty five cents, seventy spots, seventy four.
Currency markets against the US, we're fifty seven point three.
We're up almost one percent. A dollar forty five point
five higher as well, ninety point two against Stirling it
was up, and eighty seven point three against the UN
that was up as well. So this week Mike Lot's
going on US retail sales. We've got the RBA rate decision.

(10:44):
We've got the world's largest minor BHP. We got the
world's largest retailer, Walmart. They're reporting back home. We've got
lots of results. We've got seventeen in fact, including a
two contact fletchers. We've got services PMI, we've got trade data.
But yes, the big one, Yeah, what are we going
to get? Hopefully at least half percent.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
But let's see John on you mate, go well, catch up,
sir Greg Smith, Devon Funds Managements. That Valentine's d I've
got my own Valentine's experience to tell you about later.
By the way, fourteen point six this is American money.
Fourteen point six billion American dollars on Valentine's Days to
from the National Retail Federation last year was fourteen point two.
So fourteen point two to fourteen point six is that significant?

(11:23):
Probably not, because they've got inflation. They still feel very
willing to spend on what's important. Moments of celebration, they
tell us have grown into consumer psyche. It's in the
consumer psyche they become moments of joy. That's what the
day was all about. It was about moments of joy.
Six twenty one, the News Talk.

Speaker 13 (11:40):
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Speaker 1 (11:47):
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Speaker 2 (11:53):
A couple of polls out in Australia this morning. One
is dramatic, one isn't, which probably indicates you can't trust polls,
but I'll crunch the numbers for you shortly. Speaking of
which Greg alluded to it briefly, but we must celebrate
manufacturing who are back in expansion and they've been in
the doldrums for years now. So at fifty one point
four anything over fifties expansionary. December was forty six point two,

(12:14):
so we're back fifty one point four, highest level of
expansions its September two thousand and two, still below the
long term average of fifty two point five. Employment. Here's
a key employment at fifty point two, so that's up
two and a half points, but it's importantly into expansion mode,
so that'll be welcome. It's been a due old it's
been a due old segment these last few years of manufacturing.

(12:35):
So more green shoots, as they say six twenty.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
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Speaker 2 (12:44):
If you're not up on the James Howell story, it's
quite a good one. He invested, he was newly adapter
on crypto, got into bitcoin, started mining bitcoin back in
two thousand and nine. Claims that his ex partner threw
out his hard drive was it was accidentally apparently throughout
the hard drive back to twenty thirteen ended up in
a hip which is owned by the Newport City Council.
This is in Britain. He also claims has got eight

(13:04):
thousand bit coins on it, which today is worth one
point thirty six billion. So for the last teen years
he's tried to gain access to the landfill or if
you don't want to do that, give him a billion
dollars in compo. He's hired team of experts to find out.
He's offered to buy the site. Those are the teams
have all been thrown by a judge in the High
Court because of environmental impacts, but he reckons he's got

(13:25):
grounds for appeal.

Speaker 15 (13:26):
I believe that we should take this case to a
full hearing, so all of the evidence and all of
the information and specialist advice that I've received from data
recovery experts, from landfill and mediation companies, from environmental companies
can be presented to the court rather than swept under

(13:47):
the carpet, as it feels he was it was in
the original High Court case.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Now what he has so he's up to the call
of appeal. What he didn't mention he is using AI
to represent himself in court, So we wish him well
with that. This is his nine five job. He dedicates
himself each and every day to the recovery of that
particular bitcoin hospo. Let me give you an insight, so
we ring, this is not a Valentine's thing. We just
wanted to go out for lunch ring a favorite place
that we rediscovered recently, for lunch on Friday full? What

(14:16):
about dinner full? What about breakfast on Saturday full? What
about lunch on Saturday full? What about dinner on Saturday full?
So you're full? And they say, yeah, generally you need
to book a couple of weeks in advance to come
and see us. Now, I thought the bad news for us, obviously,
but the good news is if you do well, you're
doing well. So this morning from hospital I'm not sure about.
Then we do go to lunch on Saturday at another

(14:37):
place and she is apologizing that one of the dishes
is known because the previous night, Valentine's Night, they were
absolutely her words slammed. And they're overbooked for that night
Saturday night as well. So there are people in hospitality
doing well, and these are good places. And my assummation is,
if you do well, if you serve people well, if
you provide a good product, guess what you can actually

(14:59):
do quite well? Hospital might be a lesson there for
some who aren't users.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Next Mike cost Game will in State Volk Engaging and
Mitel the Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's Real Estate Finding
the Buyers. Others can't use Tog's.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Deed b White two poles out of Australia's tee price
after eight thirty first, the non dramatic one. Albanesi's approval
rating is minus twenty one. Majority of voters do not
believe the Federal Labor government deserves to be re elected.
This is a news poll in the Australian this morning.
But the coalition don't get a majority two party preferred
fifty one forty nine. Labour's primary stuck on equal record

(15:36):
low of thirty one. When you take into account new
margins or the electoral redistributions, et cetera, et cetera, Labour
look to be in this poll losing seven or eight seats.
Is that bad? Yes? Is it a loss of government?
Not necessarily because they need to lose eighteen second poll.
In a moment twenty three to seven via Vilnia, Richard
Arnold stateside on the talks and where they go when

(15:58):
they start, they are what talks you say when you've
got talks for Ukraine and then you've got talks allegedly
in Saudi Arabia to deal with the other war as well. Anyway,
last week back home, last week it was veggies and
land use. This week it's engineers. Delays to infrastructure projects
are apparently seeing hundreds of skilled workers packing up and
leaving the country. It's the pipeline that's dried up, apparently.
Engineering New Zealand boss Richard Templar is with us on this. Richard,

(16:21):
very good morning to you. Good morning Mike in a
world of clickbait and dramatic headlines. I'm always worried about hyperbole.
Is the hyperbole in this or can you actually quantify
hundreds of engineers leaving the country.

Speaker 16 (16:34):
So we don't have the total number of engineers, but
in talking with our large, small and medium firms, we
know that it well into the hundreds of engineers have
lost their job jobs and the vast maturity of them
are either working on offshore projects or have moved overseas

(16:56):
to find work. And in addition to the engineers, there's
also the construction workforce. These are the people who build
the roads, the hospitals, the schools, everything like that. They
can't work virtually. They have to relocate in order to
do their jobs. And we know significant numbers of construction
firms have been going under and their workers are having

(17:19):
to move overseas.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
This is the artworking of the previous government because pipelines
are slow to turn around given what you've heard from
the current government, and they're looking at private partnerships and
foreign investment and lots of roads and all of that
is their hope.

Speaker 16 (17:33):
There certainly is hope, and we really do acknowledge the
work of people like Minister of Infrastructure Chris Bishop and
their desire to form a bipartisan long term pipeline. You've
also got the fast Track Consenting underway and various other initiatives.
The problem is is there's been a seventeen month hiatus

(17:54):
in which large contracts have been stopped and not relet
and that seventeen months has been too long, and that's
what's caused engineering firms to make the tough decisions to
have to shed this staff. And when there's no work,
people will head overseas.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
And when you flick the ghost, which suddenly you can't
start Monday, gear up by tuesday, can.

Speaker 16 (18:15):
You Absolutely, we'll hit the problem which we've hit in
the past when we've tried to build a way out
of a recession, that will have all these projects come
on stream and there'll be no one to do it,
and that leads to project delays and cost escalation.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Do you hold out any hope? See the problem with
bipartisan in theory, it's fantastic. In reality it doesn't because
one's all about buses and cycle lanes, one's about roads.
Never the twain shall meet.

Speaker 16 (18:43):
I think it's really worthwhile having a look at the
Australian model. In Australia, the states get together and degree
an infrastructure plan and they lock it in and then
when a new government comes in, they say to the
new government, you can add whatever you like, but you
can't take away from this infrastructure plan. So I think

(19:05):
we need to look at the baseline infrastructure the country needs.
That's three waters, that's roading, that's power, that's telecommunications. We
need to line those projects up at gree because everyone
understands we've got to do something about stormwater and Auckland.
Everyone understands we've got to boost the power grid so
we can deal with the renewable energy projects coming on track.

(19:29):
Line those up. And then if a new government comes
in and they want lots of cycle ways, that's an
on top of not and instead of.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Well said Richard, appreciate it very much, Richard Temple Engineering,
New Zealand Boss nineteen away from Seven's get poll number
two slightly more dramatic. Peter Dutton on track for a
coalition victory. But this is a you gov poll suggesting
you could come up with seventy three seats, possibly as
many as eighty. The pole gives the coalition fifty one
point one on a two party preferred, Labor on Ford

(20:00):
eight percent on a two party preferred, winning an estimated
sixty six, so it could be seventy three to sixty six.
You can't find anyone picking a labor majority government. But
the problem is it's one hundred and fifty seat parliament,
so the coalition needs seventy three. If it gets seventy three,
it's still not quite there anyway, much more the step

(20:20):
Later on this morning, eighteen to two.

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you came in would have been well finished by now.
That's exactly what he's talking about. Ideology gets in the way.

Speaker 17 (21:22):
Six forty five International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance,
Peace of Mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Good Monday morning, Very good morning, mind Peace talks. Who's
there and how's it all the end? Do we reckon?

Speaker 13 (21:34):
Well?

Speaker 18 (21:34):
A good questions don't have all the answers. The Ukraine
Award of Plemacy ready is off to a confusing starting place,
with a Trump team headed to Saudi Arabia supposed to
begin these talks, but without Ukraine, with who knows who
on the Russian side. Marco Rubio, the new US Secretary
of State, is being pretty vague right now about what
is intended.

Speaker 6 (21:54):
One meeting isn't going to solve it. But I want
to reiterate the President made clear who wants to end
this war.

Speaker 18 (21:59):
Well, Ukrainian official says this announcement of Saudi talks is
a surprise to them. They have no plans to send
the delegation. There are also no plans for reps of
major European powers to join talks. This after the Trump
foreign policy crew well pretty much teed off European political
and military leaders in Munich, didn't they as Vice President J. D.
Vance on his first big foreign policy joint left allies

(22:22):
stunned when he attacked European policies and made no mention
of the Russia Ukraine war at all.

Speaker 19 (22:27):
The threat that I worry the most about vs. Of
the Europe is not Russia, it's not China, it's not.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Any other external actor.

Speaker 19 (22:36):
And what I worry about is the threat from Withyre.

Speaker 18 (22:39):
Those communitts went down like a rock. Germany Chancellor Olive
Schultz said there will be no dictated peace for Ukraine
and he slammed the United States Corps for Germany to
open the door to neo Nazi style politics. And politicians.
In an interview with America's NBC Network today, Ukraine's president
Zelenski is offering his own rebuke about seemingly being sidelined.

Speaker 20 (23:00):
I will never accept any decisions between the United States
and Russia about Ukraine. Never an hour, people, never an hour,
adults and children and everybody, and it's can to be.
So this is the war in Ukraine against us, and
it is our human losses.

Speaker 18 (23:15):
The Trump team drew heated criticism, even from some Republicans
for endorsing Russian talking points in the future of Ukraine
and its demand for security guarantee, says Zelenski.

Speaker 20 (23:24):
They don't have a real plan because they can't have
it without us.

Speaker 18 (23:30):
Zelenski says Putin simply, in his view, is playing political
games and biding his time in his pause.

Speaker 20 (23:36):
Because he really now mobilized forty five thousand people each month,
but he was to prepare where he trained well trained people.

Speaker 18 (23:44):
So we're not even the starting box are with. Zelenski
now is calling for what he describes as an army
of Europe to take on Russia without the United States.
So what does that say for NATO, which has been
a course force for peace since the end of World
War two. Ukraine also has rejected an American call for
a fifty percent stake in Crane's rare earth minerals. Trump
team floated this sort as part of their peace efforts.

(24:05):
A Lins he's saying, no Russian security agreement, no deal.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Then we come to the jobs perge irx Iris next
in line.

Speaker 18 (24:14):
Yeah, the Eland must campaign by doze or doggies take
it to calling it so you could be focused on
the tax office. They plan to sax thousands of tax
office workers. This is the iris is big season. The
last could start this week. We don't know exactly how many.
As they moved to downsize government. Tax workers thought that
they would be fine with this, but they've been told

(24:35):
they cannot accept any job buy out effort from the
Trump team until after this year's tax filing deadline in
mid April fourteen states challenging the authority of Musk's minions
to do all of this. But so far, got to say,
legal system continues to grown very slowly.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Good on you, mate, We'll catch up on Wednesday. Appreciate it.
By the way, richinald SSI, by the way, I've got
prizes this morning. Set to salays coming back to the country.
If you want to go to the news Talk Zibbi website,
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Speaker 1 (25:24):
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Speaker 2 (25:28):
If anyone takes time to listen to the full JD.
Bunts speech, they'll be more more than the mainstream media soundbites.
He gives examples of how the Europeans are destroying themselves.
It's a very good speech about the Western countries and
people should take note. It's how I started the program
if you missed it earlier on this morning. He broadly speaking,
he was making a very I thought a very clear,
succinct point. His example of Romania, though, undid him. And

(25:51):
that's part of the problem, Mike, as we continue to
not train trades people correctly and lose good trades people,
and when these big projects come on stream, will be
importing these people instead of using our own. It's the
ongoing vicious cycle, Rober. It's a very good point. My
great words from the engineering chap. Without major projects, the
internship worked for our clever young things at university have
also dried up. Many of these kids need eight hundred

(26:11):
hours of engineering work to qualify for their degrees. Already
bashed up by COVID during their schooling years, they're still
being impacted by lack of foresight all these years later.
Nicely from a mother of a budding engineer, nicely said,
can I alert you if you missed it? A couple
of very good pieces of reading over the weekend, one
of which came from a guy called Clive Elliott KC
in the Herald and he was talking about Fontierra and

(26:32):
he falls down on my side of the argument, or
I fall down on his Fontierra if you're not up
on it. Looking to sell anchor mainland capity and they
want to be basically a supplier of goods. I think
it's a mistake their argument, broadly speaking, because they sold
Tiptop as well, and that was a mistake back in
twenty nineteen. He points that out. But their thinking is
we can't do this branding marketing thing particularly well, so

(26:55):
why don't we flick it off, get some cash, put
it in the bank, and then sort of just focus
on supplying milk powder. And Clive quite rightly argues our
prosperity and ability to remain a first world economy depends
on our ability to add value to the product categories
in which we excel, rather than taking short term fixes.

(27:15):
A pivot towards what is charitably described as a global
business to business supplier of dairy nutrition products is ill advised.
Putting the spin to one sign. It means no longer
supplying value added branded products and instead becoming a stock
standard commodity supplier. And unfortunately there are plenty of those
around on that. He is one hundred percent right, but

(27:37):
look it up. The headline is Fontira's misguided proposal to
sell consumer brands. I'd like to think it's not too
late and we can change their mind. Five to seven.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
Are the ouse. It's the fizz with business fiber, take
your business productivity to the next level.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Ah the old property ownership thing.

Speaker 10 (27:56):
L J.

Speaker 2 (27:56):
Hooker survey this morning this morning shows our desire to
own a home is still as high as ever. Eighty
one percent of us want to own our own place.
Younger generations who want it most. Obviously, eighty four percent
still view a home as a solid investment. That's because
it is, unsurprisingly, affordabilities holding most of them back ninety
seven percent, so the price is their biggest hurdle, no kidding,

(28:17):
followed by seventy nine percent saying mortgage repayments. Well that
is price isn't the mean The price is debtails and
with a morgagey payment seventy two percent having a stable income,
they're the other biggest barriers. Will get out of the
gig economy and keep yourself a proper job. Esthetics, Here's
what the young here's what the young'ins want. Sixty one
percent prefer hardwood, fifty nine percent like carpet. Outdoor space

(28:44):
apparently remains non negotiable. Got to have some outdoor space,
and you wonder why affordability is an issue? Two thirds
say they wouldn't consider a place without a gardener a law. Absolutely,
and why would you? Why should you have to You've
got to have some indoor outdoor class and a gardener
lawn for your first time affordability. Forty eight percent of

(29:06):
gm z is also say they'd like their have to
have a gym home gym ab els. The guy was
doing some renovations for me a number of years ago
and he said, he said, mate, it's all indoor outdoor flow.
When I was young, when I started out, we wanted
three bedrooms and a bathroom these doors. These days they
all want indoor outdoor flow. They want a bloody wine
cellar as well. No wonder they can't afford a house.

(29:27):
And he was one hundred percent correct. Now, this tourism thing,
is this a scam? I mean Australia, it's not hard
to come from the dollars better than ours. They know us,
they speak the same language. They don't need a visa.
So how come we haven't recovered from COVID And how
come yet again we need the government saying let's run
a campaign for the Australians tourism. We shall talk about

(29:50):
this after the news, which is.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
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Speaker 2 (30:03):
Morning seven past seven, Everyone must go. There's your new
strap line for the latest attempt to drag the tourism
number back to some form of normality, given it's still
in the high eighties of what it was pre COVID.
We're after the Aussies this time. It's the shoulder season,
short sharp hit Tourism. New Zealand Boss Serena de marches
back with us Morning to you, Good morning, Mike. Doesn't
Australia exemplify everything that's gone wrong with tourism? And I

(30:25):
mean it's not hard to get here. They don't need
a visa, the dollar is good, the distance is fine,
They know of us, and yet they still haven't come back.

Speaker 22 (30:33):
Well, Australia is about about eighty eight percent recovered, but
actually the holiday arrival numbers in the last six months
are up just over one hundred percent, so it's been
good to see that. But you're right, we want more
Australians and we want to drive a faster recovery and
hence this kind of boost campaign that we announced yesterday
that will go live in the next couple of days.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
How does this work? Do the government have to cajole
you guys to cooperate or are you out there cooperating
and doing your own thing? Anyway in the governmentally don't
need to be involved in this.

Speaker 8 (31:02):
No.

Speaker 22 (31:03):
Look, we work best when we work in partnerships. In
this case we worked with airlines across the Ditch and
as well as accommodation providers here in New Zealand to
go Look, we'll put up the marketing that you put
up some deals into the mix, and then you know,
one plus one equals three. So that is generally how
we work and that's how we'd like to work. The

(31:23):
benefit here is that the government has given us a
boost of the five hundred thousand dollars to be able
to just accelerate and drive some urgency and to get
people to book out.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Without singling anyone out. I did read over the holidays
there are major takeoff and arrival time problems with their
New Zealand. Are there certain aspects of this that don't
work that well?

Speaker 9 (31:43):
Oh?

Speaker 22 (31:43):
Well, look, I mean travel times and logistics are always
going to be part of it. But the good thing
with Australia is you know, I think we've got six
ports of entry now with the new services into Hamilton
also coming on stream later this year, so there's lots
of choice both from an airline's perspective of New Zealand, Quantus, Jetstar, PLUF,
you know, I think it. There's six ports of entry

(32:04):
into the country, so lots of different ways to get here.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
What's your vibe, your gut feel? Though, there's no excuse
think about it, Australia. Everyone in Australia knows New Zealand.
The dollar is good, the distance is good, the airlines
there's plenty of choice. Why aren't they choosing us? There's
got to be something that's just not quite right.

Speaker 22 (32:21):
Well, the good news is at the back of the
back end of last year, actually New Zealand bounced back
to being the number one outbound destination out of Australia.
But you're right, travel is discretionary and competitive, right, so
you think about your own behavior. You want to go
on holiday first, and you go which are the two
or three places I want to go to? So this
is about just jolting them, getting a bit of urgency
and going hey, you reminding them that we're here and

(32:44):
ultimately saying, you know, book now, home over now, come
in the late summer, come in the autumn.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
I hope it works. China and visas, you've got a
view on that or not.

Speaker 22 (32:53):
Well, China is you know, is a big part. It
has been probably the slowest market to recover, certainly of
the major markets. You know, viz there is a nine
entity for Chinese travelers. They have to get visas for
many country countries. But what's really important is make sure
that New Zealand is really enticing as a place to
visit and so encouraging to see what's the market's still behind.

(33:14):
We've had a really good if you look at year
on year growth, it's growing at eighty percent and actually
the learning New year from what I'm hearing, which was
late January, I haven't got the exact numbers yet, but
was pretty positive.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
Hope, so good to catch up, appreciate it. Renau de
Montho's the Tourism New Zealand CEO ten and as past
seven but at lost each and every time with these things.
This is twenty nineteen. We're going, we're looking to get
back to where we were six years ago. It's not
exactly growth, is it right? Europe looks in full melt
down after Jade Vance rolls into town, told them the
issue is not the Chinese or the Russians, but the

(33:47):
locals who were sick of not being heard. And oh,
by the way, Ukraine can be at the peace talks,
but Europe can't. Emmanuel Macron at this point apoplectic cause
an emergency summit that's teed up for tomorrow. Poland's TVP
World Chief Political correspondent Aaron Darmond's with us. Aaron, very
good morning to you. He's gone right. Let me come
back to Maori business and Maory tourism. Put that back

(34:08):
and you sort that out. The value of Mari tourism,
I'm reading over the weekend, is in a better position
than non Maori tourist businesses now point to come to
an a moment. In twenty twenty three, they're worth one
point two billion, which is up on nine hundred and
seventy five million from twenty eighteen thirty five hundred and
ninety five businesses employing more than fifteen thousand people. My
question is, what's some Mari tourism business as opposed to

(34:32):
any other tourism business. And if we're all in this together,
New Zealand Inc. Isn't a tourism business. Just a tourism business. Mike.
We're here from Queensland. At the moment this place is
too damn expensive for Rossies. Can't find a bacon and
negroll for under twenty three to twenty five bucks out
of coffee, and you've got to pay thirty In Queensland,
we're paying fifteen to twenty including coffee. You've got chooks
and pigs just like us. What the hell's going on

(34:53):
in this place, Peter, It's not a bad question. Let
me come back to it. We've got Aaron Aaron Darmond.
Morning to you.

Speaker 23 (34:59):
Good morning Mane.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
You were in the room. Did it feel as dramatic
as it felt from the side of the world.

Speaker 24 (35:07):
Let me tell you a pen could drop in that
room as Jodie Vance gave that address, I mean European leaders,
it would be fare to say they didn't expect an
easy ride, but boy, oh boy, I think they were
shot by the fact that he didn't focus on Ukraine.
He didn't mention defense spending, all the things that the
Munich Security.

Speaker 23 (35:25):
Conference has been renowned for.

Speaker 24 (35:27):
Instead, he obviously Lambastad the continent's democracies, and given the
tone and tenor of what he told leaders in Munich, well,
we're in Paris now because they're convening an emergency summit.
It's fair to say Europe feels like it's been.

Speaker 23 (35:42):
Slaps in the face.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
And do they have and what are they going to
achieve at this emergency some of the next twenty four hours,
apart from a lot of hot air and talk.

Speaker 23 (35:51):
Well, I think the difference here all this meeting, and
I've covered many a political summit, is that these politicians
they genuinely don't know what they're going to do. They
have to figure something out. I mean President Emanuel mccahey
was the one to now convene this summit in Paris.
He wanted to play kingmaker when it comes to Ukraine.
I was here in Paris in December when he got
Trump and Zelenski in the same room. He taunted, that

(36:14):
is a real opportunity to test his political muscle as
diplomatic muscle, even as his own government falls apart around him.
But forget that, I mean America, they've torn up the
rule books, they're phoned in poot and they're now talking
about meeting directly with Russia in Saudi Arabia. So this
meeting they will need to come up with some ideas
and we'll get some answers.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
Well tomorrow night we will stay in touch. Aaronpreciator very much.
Aaron Darman, who these days is Poland's TVP World chief
political correspondent, will be back there tomorrow. Is my strong suspicion.
Thirteen past seven, Pascal, I love to see both onon.
Tira Brands and Kiwi Bank have forty nine percent on
the n z X. Be great for Kiwi investors and
also get some international capital. It's not a bad point.
Do give me some feedback because I'm not a bacon

(36:54):
and egg role specialist, but is a bacon and egg
role in this country really twenty three to twenty five dollars?

Speaker 5 (37:01):
So what does the bacon and egg role exactly?

Speaker 2 (37:03):
Well, it's a roll with bacon and egg in a Glenn.
Let's not over, you know.

Speaker 25 (37:07):
I just don't think I've come across one. And it
sounds like the kind of thing that I might be into.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
Well he could be making it up. Well anyway, let
me know. Fourteen past seven.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
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Speaker 13 (37:20):
That'd be.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
Yeah, I knew it. They're rolling in seven for a
bacon an egg muffin here in middle March Samon Ranphilly,
What the hell bacon and egg rolls? Think a filled
role filled with bacon and egg ham and cheese, Not
twenty three, more like eight. I can't even keep up
with the text coming, and I think theo's Australian tourists
are full of it. I don't even think they are australianterests.
Seventeen past seven new study looked into unpaid university placements

(37:44):
found the likes of teachers, nurses, social workers midwives get
hit badly financially from their time spent interning. So in
a nurse's case, it can take eight years to have
higher cumulative earnings and someone who worked the minimum wage
in the same time. Now, the lead author of all
or the senior lecturer in maths and Stats at the
University of Canterbury, Laighton Watson, is where's late and morning.

Speaker 26 (38:02):
To you Mony Mike. Thanks for having me on the show.

Speaker 2 (38:05):
Not at all. It's a no answer problem, isn't it.
I mean, yes, you can work minimum wage, but you're
probably not happy. You might be happy being a social
worker or a midwife. It's it's your choice, isn't it.

Speaker 26 (38:15):
Yeah. So I think for a long time we've relied
on people's passion and these sales to attract teachers, nurses,
social workers, and midwife. They don't normally do it for
the pay. It's not normally people don't go into these
professions to make a huge amount of money. They go
into it for the passion. And what we're trying to
demonstrate here is that there's workforce shortages in these areas,
and I think potentially we've been relying on the passion

(38:37):
too long to recruit and retain workers in these in these.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Professions, I tend to agree, And this is where the
dropout right comes in. Is the drop out right because
of the pay? I mean, even if you accept it
as do people not know when they enter these study
periods that there is this requirement and therefore the sacrifice.

Speaker 26 (38:55):
I think people might know but maybe not fully understand
the kind of maditude of it. So outside of the
work we did here, there's in other survey studies looking
at people in social work and midweforean teaching where they've
talked about the number of people's financially struggling during the semester,
So when they're just taking classes, but when they're not
on placements, can be something on the order kind of

(39:16):
ten percent or ten percent of students in these professions
might be financially struggling or they're taking classes, but when
they go on to placements that can increase to sixty
five seventy five percent of students struggling. So it really
indicates that these placements and the requirements that come along
with them can be really difficult to manage in terms
of other employment opportunities, in terms of jugging childcare responsibilities

(39:37):
and all of those sorts of things that got along
with that.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Doctors, I know, from my personal experience with a daughter
at med school get a stye pend in year six.
Is that the answer, Give them something and it'll help.

Speaker 26 (39:48):
That's definitely one of the answers. And so there's a
paid placement petition that was delivered to Parliament last year
which was advocating for paid training to pay a training
wage throughout the course of the studies and just a
reference that's not a radical idea. In fact, Australia's actually
implemented something very similar starting in this year on twenty

(40:09):
twenty five, where they're paying people in these professions three
hundred and twenty dollars a week while they're on pleasements.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Nice to talk to you, Layton Watson, who's lead author
of that particular report. You do get the highest salary.
It takes fourteen years, a nursing takes fourteen years, and
your quid zince. So there's the big picture view of matters.
A bit of frustration on my part over the weekend,
these damn pies. More in a moment seven twenty.

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week that those who should know better clearly didn't hear,
or if they did, they don't care. Are the school
lunch drama, the school lunch obsession, the school lunch bitchethon

(41:48):
enough already? I think most sensible people have agreed that
the first three weeks, yes, they've had their issues. The
major and unacceptable bit is the rival time school has
regimented business lunches. When lunches and the lunchided by the
state should be there at lunch. If you can't do it,
you're breaching your deal. But as for the rest, it
has become nausegating. It seems there is a government, hating union,

(42:10):
or army of whiners who have decided that making bitching
about lunch their call in life, their reason for being there.
Hason debt are. The latest is the halal complaint. It
was a time when lunch was lunch. You want to
change it up, that's on you. It's like coffee, it
was once milk or no milk. Halal is a specific thing.
That's more on you. If it's a big deal, sort

(42:30):
it yourself. The best one was from yet another moaning principle,
who suggested the problems with lunches threatened their sense of community.
You serious, what does that even mean? I mean, obviously
it means nothing. It's psychobabble. If you could harness the
energy that has been put into being a pain in
the bum over school lunches, you could power a large

(42:51):
city for a week. It is the fault of the moners.
It is the fault of the media for feeding the
moners by giving them mere time. They don't deserve the
pie thing.

Speaker 11 (42:59):
I think.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
I think we're seen by most middle of the road
New Zealanders as a pathetic try it on. Our kids
love pies. When we feed them healthy principles moan no,
and eats it when we give them pies principles, moan
it's not good enough. When we have three weeks of moaning,
we have our sense of community threatened. Apparently, never have
so few moans so loud about so little in a

(43:22):
country with real and large problems. It's been reduced to
waterwall coverage of cellophane, ingredients, timing, pies and community. It
is truly pathetic. Cosking Joe's Garage, five mile, Queenstown, sixteen fifty.

Speaker 25 (43:41):
See, I just think it's a marketing thing. They've got
to stop calling them baking and egg rolls and start
calling them what they actually are, which is baking in
egg burgers.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
He's full of it, Mike, I'm in a bakery now,
Bacon an egg roll as eight to fifty morning, Mike,
Bacon an egg roll, eleven bucks Mount Roskill. Tell you
what I'm just looking at.

Speaker 5 (43:59):
Picture after that, there are burger buns. They're not in rolls.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
If the Prime Minister is going to launch a campaign
and this is the sort of bitching, moaning Australian we're
going to get. We don't want to go back home.
If all you're going to do is come in from
Queensland wine about the bacon and egg bun slash roll burger,
don't worry about it. Our listing's five year high this morning.
New news views are up eleven percent nationwide year on year.
So we're selling a lot of houses. Are we selling

(44:23):
a lot of houses or just listening a lot of houses?
January twenty five really on the music legally, so it's
a favorite track of yours or something. Jan twenty five
saw forty three percent month on month rebounded views. Listing's
up seventeen percent year on year for January. We've got
about thirty nine thousand houses. Wonder how many have indoor
outdoor flow. I wonder how many young people watching this

(44:44):
morning or listening this morning game? Oh wish it had
a gym, Battles's pan, little butler's pantry, media room, What
about a steam room? For goodness sake, Hey, it's no
wonder the first time I can't buy a house. I mean,
by the time you got your gym in your steamroom
and your utler's pantry in your media room. I mean
very hard to find house like that.

Speaker 5 (45:00):
A lot of mic asking listeners want a snag.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Of course, of course they be. Most property listings in
five years Wellington largest jump up twenty eight percent, Canterbury
up twenty three Auckland property listings up seventeen percent. So
you were spoiled for choice if only they had an
outdoor shower. Can't sell a house without an outdoor shower,
for God's sake. David Seymour pie Man Next.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
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Speaker 2 (45:35):
I have it on good authority that some parents are
so upset about the quality and delivery of the school
lunches that they are going to extreme measures and make
their own catch lunches. That's true, very good. The other
thing I got exercise about over the weekend, I looked
reasonably hard and I could only find it in one place.
This is, once again another example of the good news
is there to be had if you're looking for it,
But it's not widely reported because it's not click bait

(45:57):
and it's not the sort of bs that so much
of the media is involved in. These The first official
report on the government's youth boot Camp military academy came
out and wouldn't you know it? It's good news, but
you didn't hear about it, did you? So more shortly
twenty three minutes away, Tony Who being commentary box, Andrew
Seville and Jason Pine. I mean, so many good stories

(46:19):
are from non traditional sports. I mean, do we talk
about the Super rugby? Well, not when we're winning gold
in the skiing, not when we're setting world records in
the cycling. For goodness sake, It's so much good stuff
going on there.

Speaker 11 (46:30):
Now.

Speaker 2 (46:30):
Do we have some disagreement on these teacher only days?
Education Minister Erica Stamford has said David Seymour somewhat overstepped
the mark in his role as associate with his crackdown
on teacher only days. It was announced without proper approval.
Apparently part of the issue is the new curriculum, with
planning days of that being important. Of course, the Associate
Education Minister is David Seymour, who was with us good.

Speaker 10 (46:50):
Morning, Good morning.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Is this a whole week of Landrover's stories, David v.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Erica, I can't imagine it.

Speaker 10 (46:58):
Basically, we've got a set of rules which are very clear,
and we work very well together. But of course there's
always people try and beat these things up. I doubt
I'll find much here.

Speaker 11 (47:07):
Well.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Having said that, she did say you overstepped the mark, did.

Speaker 10 (47:11):
You, I'm not quite sure i'd put it that way. Basically,
there's a set of rules that she's in charge of,
and that's all I've ever said. I've said that Erica
Stanford is the one who's the seas in charge of
when schools can close. That was in my press release,
which was actually part of attendance. So maybe overlaps would

(47:33):
be a better description.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
Okay, she also said you overstepped overlapped knowingly? Did you? No?

Speaker 10 (47:41):
Again, because if you go back to what I actually said,
it was that the minister's in charge, the schools have
to ask permission for the minister. And if you go
to the Ministry of Education website, it sets out the
rules very clearly. It says that schools in twenty twenty
five for instruction for four days. Two of those days

(48:04):
are for very important stuff which the government's brought out
around teachers up skilling for maths and other curriculum areas.
Another two days are at the discretion of the board.
But there's also a new set of rules around what
they have to do. They have to give six weeks notice,
they have to think about the reason for the closure

(48:25):
and also the impact of that on the school community.
That sort of stuff that Erica has quite rightly set out.
And my communications last year, I just made the point
that if you want to close, you need to ask
the Minister for Education. And the reason I did that
is that I'm responsible for attendance and I just made
the observation that close Willie Nelly, I think I said

(48:49):
then the message that sends to students who were saying
need to be at school, I think is mixed.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Yes it is. Haven't said that cursory glance at the
back end of Christmas, summer etc. Has it actually worked?
It still seem to me that we came back from
summer holidays in the first Friday, the first Monday. They
still take teacher only days.

Speaker 10 (49:07):
Well, they certainly have. The new rules only came into
space at the start of this year, and again I
expect that as the year goes on, as the new
rule's bed, and there'll be a lot more clarity. I
also just make the point but in that interview actually
not to blame everything on media, but the interviewer misrepresented

(49:27):
what I'd said, and I think that is at the
core of the issue here.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Okay, having said that, I watched the Prime Minister yesterday
on that tourism push. He alluded to absentee as and
we said, people are turning up. That's your understanding, it
is actually working.

Speaker 10 (49:43):
Well. I'd just one point. There was a bit of
controversy last week about Pie Day that was actually the
best attended Friday of this year, particularly for what used
to be called lower gess Ar schools thost that qualify
the healthy school lunch programs. So possibly we're on.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
So attendance is up he said seven percent. Is that
your understanding?

Speaker 10 (50:09):
Yeah, and he's right about that. I think he'd be
quoting the figures term on term and the last couple
of terms. At the end of last year, we're up
from sort of mid fifties to low the mid sixties
versus the previous year. So we certainly are making progress
on attendance. But you know, our goal is actually eighty
percent mid sixties is quite where you want to be?

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Is the on pies?

Speaker 11 (50:33):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (50:34):
Is this an orchestrated pile on a union based principle,
based media based let's find everything wrong with meals we
can possibly find and make it a big deal.

Speaker 10 (50:46):
I think it's a little bit of what really sometimes
depresses me about our country and our culture. The government
is saving almost fifty per one hundred and seventy million
dollars a year by doing the school lunch program smarter.
Has every single meal been delivered on time, at the
right time to the right school in the first two weeks, No,

(51:06):
it wasn't, but towards the end of that two week
period we're getting one hundred percent delivery in nearly every region.
Auckland's been the biggest challenge, largely because of traffic. We've
been up over ninety five percent in Auckland. And as
for the quality, I've got a huge amount of feedback
coming in from people who say we think the meals
are very good and better than last year in many cases.

(51:29):
So you know, people can complain that I would say
we've done something new. It's been ambitious at saving the
taxpayer a lot of money. Many people think it's better.
Maybe we need to sometimes look on the bright side.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Yep, good point. David Seymore, Associate Education min is theg
Just for clarification, if you go to the website which
we have in twenty twenty five, boards can close their
school for four half days four curriculum related purposes. Those
half days don't need to be made up so long
as six weeks notice is given to family. School's covering
year zero to eight have to use therefore correct KLUM
half days for maths or p l D. Yes, let's

(52:04):
get back to the boot camp at a moment's seventeen
to two.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
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Speaker 14 (52:13):
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Speaker 2 (52:15):
Now, if I get time, I'll get to the rural
school buses, because I've been reading into that as well.
And it came about because on Friday we were down
at our letterbox, which we never use, and our letterbox, unfortunately,
was full of spiders nants. And we only knew it
was full of spiders nance because a person dmd my
wife worth a delivery and said, there's a delivery in
your letterbox, and we went down do we have a letterbox?
We do have a letterbox. So we went down to

(52:36):
the letterbox and the letterbox was a community thing that
the community decided that we all wanted in the country
to have a letterbox, and so we built a community
based letterbox. Anyway, I'm off on another tangent. Let me
come back to the boot camp. Anyway. The point is
I got I met a girl neighbor down in the
school that came off a school bus, and you know,
she came off a school bus. And then I read
about the school bus changes and everyone bitching about the

(52:57):
school bus changes, and I think, well, what's the problem.
My neighbors kid goes to school and she's happy as Anyway,
I'll come back to that later. Boot Oh US two.
We were just laughing and watching Trump at Daytona and
Glenn said, wouldn't it be funny if they hopped in
the beast and did a lap? And almost as though
Glenn knows what's going on, He's in the back of

(53:19):
the Beast and he looks like he might be doing
a lap of Daytona. My other question I was watching
this came about at the Super Bowl the other day.
So Trump was the first president ever go to the
super Bowl? Why I mean they say it's security. So
what I mean? The President's the president. You need security
wherever you go, whatever you do. So why is it
that suddenly a president's never been to a super Bowl?

(53:41):
How hard is it as president to turn up at
Daytona and get some Photosn't be cool? For goodness sake?

Speaker 5 (53:45):
Anyway, what do you reckon?

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Not to one hundred the beast? I reckon about nine
and a half seconds.

Speaker 5 (53:51):
And also do the Secret Service guys have to run
along beside.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Kim John Ulm style right this boot camp. So they've
got the first official evaluation of the military activities. The
marching is good. They've decided the marching is good for
the teenagers. They've got too few staff, so there's some
I'm surprised they've got too few staff. I would have
thought they'd work that one out. Despite the early stage
of the MSA interventions and the complex needs of the cohort,

(54:18):
there are indications of positive changes for many One person's
feedback called it a quote off the chart success zero
physical fights in the three month residential part. The clinical
team felt their workloads were unsustainable and felt under very
high pressure throughout the pilot. Not surprisingly a lot of

(54:38):
eyes on them. Now if you watch Parliament as you
know I do, the Labour Party have spent the better
part of the last three months looking to articulate the
fact this is a disaster. It's a problem, it's a mistake,
it needs to be reversed. And yet on the first
official report the thing's going really well and positive changes
being made. Then yesterday I read and I can't remember.
I think it's the Children's Commissioner going despite the fact

(55:02):
the report is positive, we still need to cancel it.
I mean, there are some people who, even when the
evidence is put right in front of them and go
there you go, mate, it does actually work, they still
can't see the wood for the trees. So early stages,
and no it's not a magic cure or a silver bullet.
But despite the early stage of the MSA interventions and
the complex needs of the cohort, there are indications of

(55:24):
positive changes for many. You've gotta take your wins when
they're presented to you tender.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
Way the make Hosking breakfast with Bailey's real estate news
dog zib.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Trump is actually moving around Daytona, not at pace I
might say, eight minutes away from a bit of a
to do over beer on the price of this is
the Church Pub in christ Church. A pint is sixteen
bucks and that's about as bad as school lunches that
aren't Hilal certified. It is the proper pints debate. Of course,
a pint is five hundred and seventy five mills as
opposed to say four to twenty five or four seventy five. Anyway,
Nickinson is the co owner of this particular establishment, and

(55:58):
as with us, Nick, good morning to you.

Speaker 9 (56:00):
Yeah, morning, Mike.

Speaker 2 (56:01):
It's just really a thing that people front you with
this or has this been sort of a social media
pile on or how's this all come about?

Speaker 12 (56:08):
Yeah, no, not at all. I haven't had any complaints.

Speaker 24 (56:10):
Really.

Speaker 12 (56:11):
I had a reporter last week text me and ask
me why am my points of sixteen dollars? And I
just text back saying why. It was then reported in
the paper.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
So the report presumably somebody winged or something. What is
so a pint? So this is easily sold a pint.
I thought it was six hundred myself because of Britain.

Speaker 11 (56:30):
Correct, But so.

Speaker 9 (56:31):
When we're based off well right, they're English.

Speaker 12 (56:34):
I grew up drinking pints of milk, which is six
hundred milk, right, So a pint of beer has always
been a little bit less at five to seventy five,
and that's the point we sell and to get GP
on that, it's got to be sixteen dollars exactly.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
And then having said that, so you would know that,
wouldn't you, because five to seventy five is materially different
from four to twenty five in terms of size and
weight and what you get.

Speaker 12 (56:55):
I hear more people engine about getting a five four
twenty five and saying this is not a pint, but
then they're not. They're paying twelve dollars, so they're just
thinking they're get a better deal, but it's actually the same.

Speaker 2 (57:05):
It's like for like, so you're five seventy five at
sixteen is the same at four to twenty five and
whatever it is correct, So the meals per back buck,
it's exactly the same.

Speaker 12 (57:17):
Price, exactly the same. I mean, it's a clever way
of doing it for a bar, not to trick the consumer,
but you're sort of you're giving them a smaller pint.
And the pints are quite clever today, Like they do
look like a pint that they're actually one hundred milli
less and they're able to charge your twelve thirty dollars.
So consumer thinks they're paying a reasonable price or a pint,

(57:37):
but actually it's not a pint of beer, which should
be five to seventy.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Because in my experience, which is limited admittedly having drunk
pints in Britain, you know what you're dealing with. It's
a big bit of beer, isn't it.

Speaker 9 (57:50):
Correct?

Speaker 12 (57:50):
Yeah, I mean there's seven days where you don't feel
like a point and you probably wouldn't mind a four
to twenty five. But if you're ordering a pint of beer,
I mean I've always believed that historically you should begin
to point, which is five and five, and obviously you
have to have the price that goes with it.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Exactly. Give me your insight into the hospital scene generally
seeing I've got to you. Are things good, good ish, brilliant?

Speaker 12 (58:13):
Yeah, yeah, look look cross it is in a good space.
Twenty twenty five, it's started reagiona pretty well except for
it easily when we've been getting every day. But I
think twenty six next year is looking.

Speaker 22 (58:25):
Really good for us. So yeah, just got to hold
on tight and.

Speaker 12 (58:29):
Keep keep saving those pints, and good keep playing our
love music and keep the doors open.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
Good on your mate, We'll go well with appreciate your time.
Nickingster the church pub owner in Warsterroal Locester Street. I
can't remember it as one of the other it's a
good place. Yeah, so the letterbox and I still don't
have time to tell you the full story, but the
letterbox was we got it. Cadie got a DM saying
there's a delivery in your The really good part about

(58:54):
the story is the delivery with some beer. Not that
that's not the good part. The delivery came with beer
and a cap. Now, as you well know, Katie says
I must not wear a baseball cap because I've got
the biggest head in the world and they look root
her words, not mine. I think I look fine, but
she says my head's too big. Anyway, this particular plate
came with a cap, and I put the cap on
and I said, actually, I believe that I look quite good,

(59:15):
and she goes, actually, it's not too bad. That's the
best cap I've seen. So I now officially have a
cap that I can wear, probably in public. Anyway, back
to the letterbox. We put the letterbox up in the
country as a community thing, and we never use it,
literally never use it. So it's been there for two
or three years, literally unused. So she opened up and
of course along with a beer and the cap were
this the most gargantuae number of ants and spiders. So

(59:38):
that required the putting on of rubber gloves and spray
and ant bait and everything. But then that dub tailed
in And this is the really good bit of the
story of the young lady getting off the school bus
after school turns out to be our neighbor. That story
after the.

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Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Well us So we're still trying to track down Jason
Pint for some reason. But anyway, Sam, how are you?

Speaker 13 (01:01:16):
Mike? How are you a good one?

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Well, I've got I mean, yes, everyone wants to focus
on the Super rugby, but I mean I think that's
a bit pleasing. Let me come back to this. First
of all, a couple of big issues. A Leise Andrews
world record Finlay Melville Ives, who I'm ashamed to say
I've never heard of, but nevertheless, and then Elis Robinson
on Friday. I mean, we are leading the world breaking records.
I mean, that's your real sports news, isn't it.

Speaker 13 (01:01:39):
Yeah, it is. I think it's a sign an indication
cleared that Elise Andrews as world class. You know, she
did so well at the Olympics last year. Also, Mike,
I think it's a sign of some of the funding
that is put into snow sports and also cycling is working.
There's a whole host of young talent coming through through

(01:02:01):
in that free skiing, snowboarding, skiing sports and aspect of
snow sports.

Speaker 9 (01:02:11):
If you like.

Speaker 11 (01:02:12):
It was all that.

Speaker 13 (01:02:13):
I mean the base was set many moons ago by
some of the pioneers. But you know, with funding and
with coaching and with the good training base and good
resources in the South, you produce snow sports headquarters, then
then this is what happens. Things are working.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
Yeah, the Finlay Melbourne Lives thing is clearly like we
got you know, Nico and all that sort of stuff,
and they're still coming on. And at leasta tell you
what a Lisa you must know Ales Andrews when she
came in here posted the Olympics. Not only you know,
a world class athlete, but such a delightful person with
it and a real personality. And I love people young
people who are aspirational and articulate and gifted at what

(01:02:55):
they do.

Speaker 13 (01:02:55):
I mean, she's made every post a winner, right, she
came on as a junior Outstanding Talents still very young,
and it's a you've got to have that killer instinct
in that sport though too. It's not easy. Heaps and
heaps of training obviously, and then you've really got to
dig deep in a lot of those track cycling events

(01:03:17):
to win to post world records. So yeah, she's an
outstanding talent and she will be aiming for more gold
in LA in twenty eight sooner.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
How much damage has this done to tennis? So you
caught your stay number one, You don't lose prize money,
you don't lose points, I mean, come on.

Speaker 13 (01:03:37):
And you win tournaments while he's still being investigated. I
just don't get how tennis. You'd think he might have
been stood down while the investigations the amb samples were
tested found to be containing elements of a banned substance.
You think he would have been stood down. But no, no,

(01:03:59):
because he's World one. Look, if this was a player
in the forties or fifties, they stand them down exactly.
You probably never hear of them again.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Something does it say something about the state of men's tennis,
given that they're all gone by Djokovic, that they're desperate.

Speaker 13 (01:04:12):
So sinners allegedly desperate for yes, they're desperate for new superstars,
and Yarnick Sinner is one of those I think and
will probably continue to be. But and it's also I mean,
it's a slat with a wet bus ticket, isn't it.
You're missing three months, but you're not missing any of
the Grand Slams. It will be available or be able
to play at the French Open. You're very, very strange

(01:04:33):
once again a sport, a hope profile sport doing what
they choose rather than being consistent.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Exactly. Having said that, answer me this next question. I
don't want to be down on rugby because they've got
their own problems at the moment. But there I was
watching the Crusaders, good game, and as I didn't see
all the other games, but I'm led to believe most
of them are high games. Yeah, exactly, high quality game.
So that's a great start to the season. But I'm
watching on a beautiful Friday night thirteen thousand in christ Church.
I watched the next day twenty three thousand at a

(01:05:00):
Warriors game in Hamilton. That counts for nothing. That have
got a couple of B sides out there, so how
come you can get ten thousand more people and the
twenty three thousand for the Warriors matches roughly GiB or.
Take the crowd at Eden Park.

Speaker 13 (01:05:13):
Yeah, I think obviously the Warriors don't go, don't plan
on Hamilton every weekend, every second weekend. There's huge interest
in them. They're on a roll. And yes, performance wise
are win wise they didn't do that well last year
did they the Warriors. But the marketing wise and star

(01:05:35):
name wise, if you like, I think they've got it right.
The other thing, Mike, is that the Melbourne Storm had
none of their stars playing. Really no, so you've got
you've got it. I mean number one, you're gonna put
that one into context. But also here are all these
fans turning up to see basically Melbourne Storm b take
on the Warriors, not c So something clearly is being

(01:05:55):
done right by the NRAL. They've got a huge marketing budget,
much much bigger than Rugby's and are doing it right.
I thought the crowd at Eton Park was pretty good.
I'd say about twenty five thousand on a humid, rainy
night in Auckland. I thought the crowd in christ was okay.

(01:06:15):
I thought it might have been bigger for round one,
but it's still summer. Overall, I thought the standard of
football was very, very good for round one of the
new season. Normally there's a lot of eras, a lot
of mistakes. I thought the referees need a pad on
the back. They are clearly trying to speed the game up,
and I think we saw nearly fifty tries across five games.

(01:06:36):
So if you're wanting bang for bark, then.

Speaker 2 (01:06:39):
They've got that part. In the other part you got
to take into account, of course, is the fact that
we don't know who's going to win. Listen brief break
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Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
I'm tell me when I watched that that you won't
be remotely interested in terms of you won't have seen it.
I saw the Williams launch for the F one season.
So they launched, they have a bit of a shakedown
at Silverstone and McLaren did the same thing. But Williams
looked together and they've got this sponsor called at Lassian,
which is a major Australian tech company. They called them
a hyper sponsor.

Speaker 13 (01:07:22):
I wonder what that was.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Yeah, they're a huge There are tens of millions of
not one, hundreds of millions of dollars long term tech
the way they work. But Williams look, Williams look like
they're on a path. They won't win anything necessarily, but
they look like they're on a path to something good,
which is encouraging.

Speaker 13 (01:07:39):
I saw over the weekend that Carla sains joins Williams,
steps into the car straight away. Yep, Nobs tells them
what needs to improve, tells them what's good, what's bad,
and they're already thinking this sky might well finish on
the odd podium.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Yeah, he's he's the real deal. And I think el
one's a very good driver as well. By the way,
did you catch up on the news? Are you're working tonight?
By the way, you're making a rare appearance on one news.
I watched it on that's all.

Speaker 13 (01:08:09):
I'm just have I have I overpowered another co contributed.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Well, I'm no, no, I just know what Jason Jason sacked.
He was on this program. He's now sacked. But no,
I'm just saying that every time I turn on, you
don't appear to be on, and so I just can't
work it out. So I just want to make.

Speaker 13 (01:08:23):
Sure it was on last week. You didn't watch it,
you were on.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
Like one day last week. You weren't on, You weren't
three or four days in a row.

Speaker 13 (01:08:33):
Number the pump guest, what do you what are you
trying to.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Say, Jamie McKay, You know the host of the country.

Speaker 13 (01:08:40):
Yes, yes, yes, yeah, yeah, hole in one? Oh really
weird at the at the at the mini part. No, no,
And this is no.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
I know a little bit about this when many years ago,
when I lived in Duneda, I didn't belong because I
couldn't afford to. But every now and again I went
down to the Otago Golf Club. This is at Belle McEwan, right,
and that's the place to play if you're in Dneed.
And he got a hole in one on the sixteenth. Now,
the thing you need to know about the sixteenth is
it's a par four, So think about it. So think

(01:09:11):
about that.

Speaker 13 (01:09:12):
Yes, yep.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
So now admittedly it's a short part four, but nevertheless
it is a part four, so it's.

Speaker 13 (01:09:17):
Not it's not it's not a past three wid Yeah,
he's rolled it off the feelway under the green.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
That's gone in correct. And so I don't know what
tea he was off, because it depends on what tea
you're on. It's anywhere between two forty nine and two
sixty seven, probably the junior, I think to you now,
I think it's the Lady's tea. I mean, there was
that rumor that he plays off the ladies tea. But yeah,
so he's at two forty nine.

Speaker 13 (01:09:40):
Was this at the weekend? We'll hear about it today
when he was at the weekend?

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Well apparently it was at the weekend. And so very
few people have ever scored a hole in one on
the sixteenth, and I can believe that. But even at
two forty nine, you are looking at a big drive.
I mean, yeah, you're looking at a big drive and
you're looking to do it straight. Now, when I get
my my big wood out, it's a little bit of
draw right to lift. But even so, you're running it

(01:10:06):
between a couple of bunkers onto the green, so to
get a hole in one at two forty nine is unbelievable.

Speaker 13 (01:10:10):
And least say there's a little bit of lack evolve right,
a lot of lacking.

Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Probably not in Jamie's case, he would argue that it
wasn't much like that.

Speaker 13 (01:10:17):
You've got to drive it a fear away, but you've
also there's a fear I think it was. Was it
National Lamb Day on Friday or Saturday?

Speaker 9 (01:10:25):
Yep?

Speaker 13 (01:10:25):
So I wonder if he had a big feet of
lamb and he's gone out there and smoked it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
It's a very good question, do you know? And I'm
ashamed to say this, No, I'm not. Actually, I'm not
ashamed to say this. I went to trade me yesterday
hunting for the Prime Minister's T shirt speaking of National
Lamb Day. So the Prime Minister wore a national T
shirt over suit. So as a result of being bagged
about that, he's put that up for auction. I thought, oh, yeah,
that's a good charity thing. I could do that, get

(01:10:50):
it framed up, put it in the snooker hole, but
I couldn't find it on trade me. How do you
go to trade me to find stuff at auction? Because
I typed in lamb T shirt and it didn't come
up with anything.

Speaker 13 (01:11:00):
As the auction finished.

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
No, it was live, it was allegedly still live, and
the top bid was two dollars and I thought I
can beat that.

Speaker 13 (01:11:07):
I'm sure you could. I'm going from bidding for a
lot of stuff around the globe at the moment. What
is this, the very Humphrey. Is there a lot of
spare cash rolling around?

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
There's not a lot of spare cash. What there is
is a zeal and a zest for life. Andrew And
when you have you hit? Have you hit sixty yet?

Speaker 13 (01:11:26):
No? We thank you years away?

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
No, you're the same age I am. You must be
sixty this night.

Speaker 22 (01:11:32):
Not listen, do you hit?

Speaker 13 (01:11:33):
You hit sixty and all of a sudden your mortality
straight slaps you in the face, and you gotta get
rid of all your money or buy stupid things.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
It's not stupid things, Very Humphreys isn't stupid things. But
and neither's a National Lambday T shirt. Woman by the
Prime Minister, I have you know? Having said that, guess
where I am today?

Speaker 13 (01:11:50):
At an auction house?

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
No, at the doctor? Why am I at the doctor.
I'm getting I'm getting it. I'm getting the full top
to toe.

Speaker 13 (01:11:56):
Are you getting the old?

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
I'm getting everything. I'm getting. Every piece of machinery that
medical science has ever invented is being turned on.

Speaker 13 (01:12:05):
You need the blood test and the old at all.

Speaker 2 (01:12:07):
Did the blood test last week And the good thing
about the blood tests is you can read your own
results now with charts and graps and stuff like that.
And I'll have you know if you think I sound vibrant, young,
virile and fantastic spot on.

Speaker 13 (01:12:21):
I would be shocked if the doctor doesn't sit you
down next week and go mate, you've got the body
of a thirty With the amount of vitamins and snake
oil you're putting that little body of yours. Who'll sit
down and go make you've got the body of a
thirty five girl.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
I can only hope that you're right. Andrew, listen, if
you're working this week on the Telly do let us
this week, yes, you have a very good time with it.
The gaps between the bulletins. Do you tend to forget
how to do it?

Speaker 13 (01:12:51):
I've done it long enough now, Okay, you had three
months off over Christmas and didn't forget how to push
the microphone.

Speaker 11 (01:12:56):
Button on at all?

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
It's two months. Have you seen the JJ wat? But
you know JJ Watt the NFL plays. So he's a
part owner at Boonley.

Speaker 13 (01:13:04):
He's another one who's invested in.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
He's texting the guy. The Burnley goalkeepers not let in
a single goal all year. He says, if you keep
a clean sheet for the season, I'll come out of
retirement and play for the Bengals. Really yeah, precious, Oh he.

Speaker 13 (01:13:20):
Wouldn't be able to keep a clean sheet the whole year.
Know that that's not impossible for a whole football season.

Speaker 2 (01:13:24):
Nice to see Nice to see you, mate. I'll give
you Jason Pines per diem as well. By the way.

Speaker 11 (01:13:31):
Half of it go.

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dollars and climbing. He's going to raise thousands for charity,
which is good right. These two poles in Australia make
for fascinating are in complex reading. Steve Price to break
it all down shortly.

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Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Be, bikery, school meals and boot camps. Just remember that
all media and reporters are desperate to find bad news
and dump on the government. Does it does get to
a point where you think that's probably got something to it.
And I came to that conclusion or confirm my suspicions
last week over the tractor business and that you think
how many days in a row can a non story
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might just be a little agenda running there. Twenty three
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Speaker 17 (01:15:28):
From nine International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace
of mind for New Zealand business Right in Australia the.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
Price Very good morning to you. So I've got a
news poll and I've got another poll. One pole seems
dramatic istion the other one doesn't seem as dramatic. What
we what do we think? Is he got the numbers
to form a majority, or is he going to win
the election but fall short, or are all the polls
wrong and we wouldn't have a clue.

Speaker 9 (01:15:53):
Is the he you're referring to dust Prime Minister.

Speaker 2 (01:15:56):
Or no, no, doesn't seems to be the one on
the ascendants.

Speaker 9 (01:16:00):
Look, all of these polls are now indicating I think
that Anthony Albniz is going to hang on by his
fingernails and form a minority government. I heard someone a
commentator during the week last week referred to it as
the New Zealand style of elections where the major parties
never have enough numbers to win in their own right,
so they always have to have coalitions Arlah Winston Peters,

(01:16:24):
and I think that's not a bad assessment. We have
a poll out in the Australian excuse me this morning
that says if there were an election to be held
next weekend, the swing to the coalition should be about
three percent. That's not enough. That would give Peter Dutton
maybe eight seats and he needs more like sixteen to seventeen. Now,

(01:16:44):
are these polls allays correct?

Speaker 11 (01:16:45):
And I did not.

Speaker 9 (01:16:47):
Could things change dramatically between now and an election that
could be held in March April May, Of course they can.
I mean we may have an interest rate cut tomorrow
which would help out the government. But certainly Anthony Ibneazy
individually is on the noses record low approval rating of
minus twenty one. Coalition is on fifty one to party

(01:17:09):
Preferred in Labor and forty nine. So we are headed
for the worst possible outcome, Mike, I think, which is
a minority labor government where they're going to have to
deal with the tier independence, particularly if they all get
re elected. And I'll take you back to the time
when Julia Gillard had to deal with three independents. It
was complete, not a disaster, and that goverment then got

(01:17:30):
thrown out when Rudd came back. So we've got history
repeating it so sadly and it's not good for us struggle.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
How many individual stories are there? And the reason I
asked that is I saw a story over the weekend
on Sky News and it was talking about Queensland specifically
I think Brisbane where the Greens did well and they've
got three seats and it's possible they're going to lose
two of them and go down to one, despite the
fact they're claiming they're going to win even more. Those
individual stories and then you get to your by elections

(01:17:57):
in Victoria, places like Paran. How many of those in
vidual stories out there, and it could actually swing in
a way that no one seems coming.

Speaker 9 (01:18:04):
Possibly, although the Green vote is definitely in decline, you
mention those seats in Brisbane, they'll definitely lose two of those.
I would think that Labor might pick those seats up,
so that doesn't necessarily help the coalition. There was a
swing against the Greens and a by election in Melbourne
last weekend of somewhere around sixteen percent, so they are
very much on the nose. They beligned themselves directly with

(01:18:25):
the pro Palestinian movement. They're now seen pretty much as
a hard left socialist agitating party rather than the Party
of the Environment, so they're in big trouble. But these independents,
and they don't like being joined up and called the
Teal Party, but that's basically what they are. They're going
to be well funded again and people will park their
votes with community independence and with our preference system here,

(01:18:50):
you know, depending on how that independent approaches the election
and policies they have, those preferences often flow to the
Labor Party and not for the coalition. We're in a
look Peter Duton's confident, he's out. There was a three
page interview with him in the News limit of papers
at the weekend. He was basically saying, yes, we can win.
So he's trying to just remain completely positive and Anthony

(01:19:12):
Albanizi's floundering around at the moment and we still don't
know when the election will book.

Speaker 11 (01:19:16):
Do you are?

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
I was going to ask about that because we had
Scott Morrison on the program Friday. He said it depends
on the budget. They go with the budget, they'll go later.
But is April twelve still the hot money pretty much?

Speaker 9 (01:19:26):
So yeah, most people don't think as mister Morrison did,
that they want to come out with a budget. I mean,
the budget position's not great. They'd have to make a
lot of promises, they'd have to splash around a lot
of cash. I don't believe they want to have a
budget and if they can avoid it they will.

Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
And when you say Dutton was the three page I
thought He talked to Karl Stefanovic last night on Channel nine.
He was with Peter Kredlin the other day. Is he
on some mass surge? And if he's on a mass
surge when the average Australian looks at him, listens to him.
Do they like him or not?

Speaker 9 (01:20:00):
Depends what state you're in, really, I mean, I live
in the great socialist state of Victoria, so he'd be
less popular here, although in the outer suburban Melbourne. The
state government saw on the nose that they probably think
that Peter Dutton might be able to save them. I
think he has done a remarkable job in the last
two years and he's turned around his image. He's very

(01:20:22):
popular in Queensland, pretty popular in WA and reasonably popular
in New South Wales. I mean, he's not the problem.
The problem is these independents are going to soak up
too many of the votes and the coalition is just
simply not going to have enough to get up.

Speaker 11 (01:20:37):
Look.

Speaker 9 (01:20:37):
I might be completely wrong, but I think we're a
bit of the labor minority government.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
Okay, fair enough the Police Commissioner of Victoria, so I
didn't know you have votes and stuff like that. So
he's quick because no one's got confidence in them.

Speaker 9 (01:20:49):
Yeah, the Union had a vote eighty seven cent said
they didn't want him. He's been under pressure. He was
due to be re signed for another five year contract.
That all fell over and so late last night he
actually came out and quit. The force had been told
they had to cut a billion dollars out of their budget.
I mean this goes back to COVID. The law in
order debate goes all the way back to COVID. When

(01:21:11):
the Victoria police were forced to fire rubber bullets on
Victorians protesting about being locked up by Dan Andrews. As
simple as that. And also the anti vax movement the
police turned on them as well, and so Shane Pattens
the folk's name. He's not been popular since then, and
so he quit overnight. They put a broken charge in
the meantime while they make a search around the world

(01:21:32):
to find a new police commission.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
Where are wet with the nurses? It was I can't
remember it was it morphine they found in the locker.

Speaker 9 (01:21:39):
Yeah, the ah Man Nadir, his locker at the Bankstown
Hospital searched by police and they found morphine. There's been
no charges laid yet, which puzzles a lot of people.
They've searched both of these. The other one, of course,
was Abu Labda. She was the one that said she
would like to kill Israelis or Jews if they came

(01:22:02):
to her hospital. No charges have been laid and that
puzzles a lot of people. Detectives. They've got the full
interview that these two gave to the Israeli influencer. They
were complaining at one point that he would not give
over the full tape. That's because they gave him the
wrong addressed to email it too. But I think most
Australians are looking at this and the caravan with explosives

(01:22:25):
incident and going well, hang on a minute, it was
no one ever been charged about any of these things.
There's still been no charges laid on the fire bombing
of the synagogue in Melbourne. It would appear that the
police forces are having great difficulty in trying to work
out what to do about threats like this, and in
the meantime, the Jewish community in Australia are absolutely petrified

(01:22:46):
about what might happen next.

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
Unreal. All right, mate, and see Wednesday. Appreciate it very much,
Step Price. The caravan thing, I was watching something yesterday
is interesting. The explosives were forty years old and one
of the early indications was and it turned out that
bloke was right. I saw an interview with the crime
or whatever he was one of the Sydney papers. He said,
you'll probably find it's criminal related in the sense that
they'll be looking to cut a deal with the police.
And that appears to be what's happened. Eight forty five.

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Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
At B twelve minutes away from n I'm just going
to an email from Peter. He goes, Mike, try a
pie in quantus business class. Nothing wrong with a good
root pie. Give the kids a glass of charaz and
they'll be happy. And he sends a photo of what
I assume is his meal in quantus business class. It
looks to me to be either domestic business class or
trans Tasman. It's certainly not long haul. On the left

(01:23:39):
hand side of the tray is a plate. On the
plate are two slices of white bread and a tub
of butter. On the plate on the right is a
pie that looks like it came from a service station,
a slop of tomato sauce, and a scoop because it's
in that shape, a hoop of mashed potato. And that's

(01:24:03):
what the kant is called business class food.

Speaker 5 (01:24:05):
If I got My mouth is so watering right now?

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
You pay how much the cost of fly business class
across the tesment vague? It's like it's worth it two
or three thousand dollars and that's what they give you.
Is that like a joke? How could you serve that
with a straight face? Back to my letterbox? So we're
out there cleaning the letterbox out and and a young
lady walks down our road and she goes hello. She
it's twenty past four Friday afternoon, and my point being

(01:24:30):
that she's just arrived home from the school bus in
the city. So she goes to the school each day
via the bus to the city and then comes back.
So obviously it takes her a bit over an hour
because by the time you get out at three o'clock
and wander off to the bus and the bus leaves
it fire past or whatever, you get back into the
country at twenty past four, So she catches the bus
every day. This interests me because there is a scrap

(01:24:51):
going on at the moment. The government has terminated thirty
eight routes, shortened an extended one hundred and twenty six
and has merged and created six new ones. The rural bus.
Now there's to do because people think all this is unfair.
Now the Ministry runs services. These country buses require at
least eight eligible pupils per bus. Now I suddenly thought

(01:25:11):
about this. Eight pupils is not really a bus, is it.
For a start, it could be a van, or indeed
a large suv. So why would you have a bus
of all, you're taking seven or eight kids? Why not
get yourself a van. Students eligible must attend their closest
state or state integrated school, lives at least three point
two kilometers from the school for primary or four point
eight kilometers. Now, this young lady lives seventy kilometers from

(01:25:32):
her school, so she's well and truly qualified. So you
can be four point eight killed. Is that even a distance?
I mean I travel further every day to work. It's
not likely four point eight kilometers. Isn't that really that far?
And have no other public transport options, So everyone thinks
it's blunt, it's crude, it's rude. The government are ripping
them off. I'm looking at a young lady at four

(01:25:53):
twenty on a Friday, perfectly happy to catch the bus
to town and catch the bus home again. She doesn't
seem to be remotely bothered. And as much as I
love the country, because I at least part of the
time live in the country, at some point you've got
to take responsibility for living in the country, don't you.
One of the things you do in the country is
you've sort of sometimes got to look after your own water.
Sometimes you got to look after your own rubbish. Sometimes

(01:26:14):
you get a shingle road. Sometimes you live a long
long way away from stuff. But you made that decision
to live a long way away from stuff, and if
you do, one of the consequences might be you've got
to get your kids to school by yourself. Light away
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Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
Nine trending now with Dems Warehouse stop paying too much.

Speaker 2 (01:27:45):
It's been quite the scene at Daytona. As we alluded
to earlier in the program. Trump is there. He's in
the beast so he got it onto the start line,
they gunned it took off. So he's in the lead,
behind him of the Secret Service. This is a noble track.
Go and run around behind him of the Secret Service
the motor and then behind the miszebie driver Coleman Tite
is loving it.

Speaker 19 (01:28:04):
It's more than just the great American rights. It's one
of the few times where you really don't care about
another person's politics.

Speaker 5 (01:28:11):
It's just food.

Speaker 13 (01:28:12):
It's fun.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
The beast is on the move.

Speaker 19 (01:28:15):
The presidential limousine is making its way around the track.
Is this great or what? It's fantastic? Looks like they're
picking up just a bit of pace.

Speaker 27 (01:28:25):
What a cool thing to see the president leading the
way right now here at Daytona International Speedway. But I
can tell you, as far as from the fan perspective,
people are soaking all of this in and really paying
attention to every moment.

Speaker 19 (01:28:40):
Obviously having a president come back again that's fantastic in
this particular case, I say fantastic for the fans.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
I just can't I ask again, how is it that
he can think of it? And Noah, the president can
How hot can it be that, by the way, weighs
ten tons so a big EEV. These days you get
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NASCAR weighs three and a half thousand pounds, which is
next to nothing because there's nothing to them apart from
an engine. Eleven laps, it stopped for rain. Van Gisbergen's
currently fifteenth, having started twenty sixth, so he is on
the wall looking forward to the catch up tomorrow morning.
Graham Norton is on his way. He started with a
couple of shows. He's bringing his show, It's a Night
with Graham Norton. I don't know it's called the Night

(01:29:35):
with Graham Norton. Bh. Sure, Actually this is a very
good name for a shape. It's got Night with Graham Norton. Anyway,
he started with a couple of shows up to nine
and counting. So anyway, Graham Norton for a catch up
after eight tomorrow morning, when we join you for Tuesday
on the Mike Hosking Breakfast as always happened.

Speaker 1 (01:29:54):
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