Full Show Podcast: 22 November 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(00:30):
I tell you what I'm trying to work out, which
I like least at the moment Elon musk or Disney.
Elon bought Twitter, turned it into X. He paid forty
four billion. They say it's worth about ten billion. Now
he doesn't care it's worth ten billion because a lot
of corporates, of course, bailed because of its ugliness. He
argues it's free speech, but it's free speech at the
lowest level, so it's ugly. He still defends it. It
makes life for a libertarian like me difficult because I

(00:52):
like the idea of truly free speech, and as a
result of that belief, I have nothing to do with X,
of course, because I have standards. But it's also apparent
that as good as a concept may be that free
speech is good to have, when left to its own devices,
it is indeed an ugly place and vulnerable people get hurt.
So that's Elon. Disney were one of those who bailed
because they didn't like what they see. But the Financial

(01:13):
Times suggests that they are heading back to X now
that Trump has won and Trump likes Elon, and Elon
might be spending a lot of time at the White House,
so Disney wants in on the action and the influence.
Now if that's true, and it's not just Disney, of course,
it whole bunch of corporates that makes them hypocrites and
hypocrites of the worst sort, high and mighty, but only
when it suits. Full of principle, as long as they

(01:34):
end up on the right side, whatever the current right
side happens to be, they are fair weather, flipping and
flopping with the times. They when hopelessly woke, of course,
in their movies, until Bob Ayger came back and said,
the reason I'm back is because you're losing money, and
you're losing money because you woke. Having principles. Once upon
a time, of course, was quite the thing that was expected.
It was common until it wasn't. These days, corporates too

(01:54):
often don't know who they are, so they end up
moral blemonge. We saw it here during COVID furious. They
were furious at the government and private pussy cats in public.
You would hope there's a lesson there somewhere that they
might want to learn and do something about. Elon is
at least reasonably consistent. You don't have to like it,
but he is true to his word, and it's cost
him thirty five billion. An expert. Then he found Donald

(02:15):
and the balance has been more than rectified, of course,
so what does he care, which I guess ultimately means
it's Disney. I like Disney less than I like Elon,
And that's saying something.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Why News of the World in ninety second.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
But a missile talk for you. The Russians are Tassan
into continental into Ukraine. Although the Russians night anyway, if
it happened, that's because of the storm shadows yesterday.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
The UK is now directly involved in this war. Because
this fighting cannot happen without the without need to stuff
British stuff as well Asukiya wasn't for turning.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
Russia could roll back their forces and end this war tomorrow,
but until then we will stand up for when we
know is right for Traine security and for our own security.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
And there was his defense secretary.

Speaker 6 (03:06):
There are unconfirmed but media reports today of Russia firing
a new ballistic missile into Ukraine, which they we know
have been preparing for months.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Speaking of was. The ICEC has issued a couple of
arrest warrants. One of them is for a mister b
nittn Yahoo of Israel.

Speaker 7 (03:25):
They have reasonable grounds to believe that those two men
have been carrying out to the war crime of starvation
as a method of warfare, and the crimes against humanity
of murder, persecution and other inhumane acts.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
Then back in Britain, a couple of things. One John
Prescott has died aged eighty six years old. Mate Tony
with fond memes.

Speaker 6 (03:44):
We had our disagreements from time to time, but he
was loyal, committed an enormous help to me, and he
had a fantastic gut instinct about politics.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
And to the ongoing inquiry introduced how dodgy Captain Tom's
family was with the charity. Money doesn't make the good reading.

Speaker 8 (03:59):
We found repeated personal benefit from the ingram Maws. There
was a book deal done worth one point four million
pounds and there was eighteen thousand pound from an award ceremony.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
What a bunch of crooks. Finally we've got the first
millennia ill to be turned into a saint died called
Carlos A. Cutis was a London teenager died of leukemia
at the age of fifteen. He had a social media
presence that spread the teaching of the Catholic Church to
the point that his nickname was God's Influencer. I'd have
become a saint. Of course, you need to have performed
a couple of miracles, and the Cutis was attributed with
healing a Brazilian kid with a congenital little disease of

(04:33):
the pancreas, and then Pope Francis attributed the healing of
a university student in Florence with a brain lead to
him as well. So two miracles and the old Saint
Department stamp that is a saint and that'll happen in
April next year, News of the World. In ninety John Prescott,
by the Way, eighty six, as I mentioned, died peacefully
to the sound of jazz music at his care home.
He'd been living with Alzheimer's. Of course, former trade union

(04:55):
activists served in Blair's government. You heard Tony there for
ten years, Kingston on Hull East. That was a seat
and he held it for four decades. One of the
more colorful characters of the business. Twelve past six.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
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Speaker 3 (05:16):
And just to prove the world is mad if you
didn't catch up with it. Yesterday in New York that
banana artwork went for six million. And not only did
it go for six million, the guy's going to eat it.
The bananas always going to be left with. There's a
bit of duct take. Fourteen past six, my wealth Andrew Callahan,
Good morning, very good morning, Mike. I love in video,

(05:38):
not because what it does, because I'm not that grouped
by chips, but the numbers all by themselves are just unbelievable,
aren't they striking?

Speaker 9 (05:46):
Isn't it make Yeah, they came, they saw they sold
billions of dollars withorth of silicon chips markets have survived
the release of Q three and means from in video
Now yesterday morning, I sort of highlighted the risk that
the result could be material away from expectations. Well, it
wasn't material away. It was slightly above market consensus expectations,

(06:09):
although it may not have topped some of the lofty
and more optimistic forecast. Yeah, revenue just a smidge and
over thirty five US billion dollars. And if you think
that's almost double what it was twelve months previously, which
is quite a striking result. That thirty five billion was
above those market expectations. Data center revenue that's a major
part of in video revenue thirty point eight billion. That's

(06:33):
a record high for that category. For in video profits
nearly doubled from a year earlier to nineteen point three billion.
And we heard that the Blackwell chips that we mentioned yesterday,
they're expected to start shipping.

Speaker 3 (06:44):
In the fourth quarter.

Speaker 9 (06:46):
I thought some of the comments Mike made at the
conference school after the renultant result announcement are very worthy
of repeating. So the boss Jensen Huang, he said it
is the case that demand exceeds our supply and there's
not many businesses that size that can make that sort
of comment, and that's expected as we're in the beginning

(07:06):
of this generative AI revolution. CFO, the chief financial officer
Collect Cress on the conference call, said Blackwell demand is staggering.
Now Hawaan had called it insane, it's now been called
staggering they. Cress then said, we're racing to scale supply
to meet to meet incredible demand customers are placing on us.

(07:28):
These are pretty frothy comments. And yeah, the final comment
that Hawaan made, he said AI is transforming every industry,
company and country as enterprises at every level integrate AI
into their workflows. And here's another comment which you just
rarely hear from a business. He said, in Vidia is
set to benefit exponentially. We love the word exponentially make

(07:54):
but I mean, look, the share price is stable. It
hasn't moved a heck of a lot down one point
four percent, I think is I looked at it now,
but you've just got to remember twelve months ago share
post at forty eight bucks. It's now one hundred and
forty four so astounding.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Just by way of contrast, let's come back to New
Zealand's dominant speech and things are not quite as frothy
as we might have hoped.

Speaker 9 (08:16):
Non apologies for this, you know, I know it's a Friday,
but this is a little reality check yesterday from Dominic Stevens,
who is the Chief Economic Advisor to Treasury.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Now.

Speaker 9 (08:24):
I've been wandering around the country for the last few
weeks Mike, chatting and talking to the good folk out there,
and I felt like a bit of a prophet of
doom because my message has been that while twenty twenty
five has promised to be better economically, the here and
now is still pretty challenged and it could take a.

Speaker 3 (08:39):
While to see improvement.

Speaker 9 (08:40):
And the data well, mister Stevens gave a speech yesterday
and he made some comments in a similar context at
the same time, and it's worthy of ever read the
speech at the same time, talking about the long run
challenges posed by aging population.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
Now.

Speaker 9 (08:52):
The speech was titled New Zealand's Challenging Fiscal Contexts, which
will be a tough headline for fun as Minister nicola
willis to read. And he says that later start to
suggests economic activity has been weaker than anticipated in Treasury's
Budget twenty twenty four forecasts notes that since here's a
great this is awful. He notes that since the September

(09:12):
twenty twenty two quarter, per capita GDP has fallen four
point six percent. That is a larger per capita recession
than after the GFC.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Take that into the weekend.

Speaker 9 (09:24):
Recent data has suggested that the economic downtown has been
deeper and the recovery may begin later than Treasury forecast
at Budget twenty twenty four. And this, obviously, and this
is my comment, this is implications for government revenue. So
we en nowt with now a weight with great interest
the half yearly Economic and Physical Update that's due for
release on December the seventeenth, which will be a nice

(09:44):
little Christmas present for financial markets to absorb.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Give me the numbers I can.

Speaker 9 (09:51):
The Dow Jones is now up three hundred and sixty
points er point eight three percent forty three thy seven
hundred and sixty eight. The S and P five hundred
is up nine five nine two six. The nasdak's a
little bit weaker. It's down a third of one percent
eighteen thy nine hundred and five. The FORTS one hundred
overnight GAINO point seven nine percent eight one four nine.
The closed there the nicket down point eight five percent

(10:13):
three eight oh two six Shanghai Composite Game two yesterday,
so just a small rise. The A six two hundred
also barely changed down three, closing at eight three two two.
The innsesects fifty gain twenty eight points to close at
twelve thousand, seven hundred and sixty five. Now Kiwi dollar,
it's a little bit weaker point five to eighty five
to one against the US. It's also sort of flirting

(10:34):
with the ninety cent mark against the Aussie dollar point
eight nine nine nine. We don't often see it down there,
point five five eighty seven against the euro, point four
six four nine against the pound, ninety point four to five.
Japanese en golders are still recovering two thousand, six hundred
and sixty four dollars, and Brent Cruiz just edged up
a little bit more seventy three dollars and eighty five cents.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
More expensive perpetrol and a crap dollar sounds good. Hey,
you got it. You're off to South Carolina and go
well and fly well. Does it get boring having so
many holidays or is it not?

Speaker 9 (11:05):
At all that's the great thing about it, Mike, that's
the great thing about it.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
I highly recommend it. All Right, you go, well, we'll
see you soon. Andrew Kelleher Jmiwealth dot co dot in Zenasket.
I checked the weather from seventeen degrees still mild in
that particular part of the world. My food Bag, I
can give you some reasonable news. Profit rose eighteen percent.
They'll take that. On revenue down two percent, which is interesting.
Deliveries down as well, but the one hundred and twenty

(11:31):
eight dollars if you're under the My food Bag, that's
the average spend on a weekly basis, gross margins and proof.
So they'll like that. And the customer numbers have stabilized.
There are sixty one thousand New Zealanders who like a
bit of My food Bag. Six twenty one, you're at
Newstalk zed Bo.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
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Speaker 3 (11:53):
Talks at b Infra Metrics. I backed up what Dominic
from the Reserve Bank was saying. And Andrew was just
telling us a moment ago. It's unfortunate my obviously, I
think we've all concluded Q three, which we don't have
the number four. We've completed Q three, but we don't
have the number four that will be negative, so that'll
be three recessions and two years. The concern now is
where the Q four, which is what we're in, is

(12:16):
going to be negative as well. Green shoots starting to appear,
says Infometrics in the primary sector. We've covered that on
the program this week. I mean, dairy obviously is doing fantastically.
Thank god, Rich is going to update us the DOJ
want Google to sell Chrome? I believe that when I
see it. And yesterday and we'll get to Murray later
on in the program. Yesterday Elbow officially put the paperwork

(12:38):
into the House as in the Parliament on the social
media business, which is another thought bubble of delusion from
a left leaning government. I mean, wouldn't it be wonderful
to think it would work, but it won't. Finds of
up to fifty million. This is banning kids on on
TikTok and x and Facebook and Instagram and Snapchat and
all that sort of stuff. So Murray's with us later
on that six twenty five.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Now with House the real House of frequencies, why don't.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
You Spotify record the fastest song to hit a billion streams.
Previous was this called seven Monday. It's Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
seven days. K pop band BTS member. By the way,

(13:26):
there's a big K pop debate in South Korea at
the moment over another band, and they claim new genes.
They claimed they were being abused and sort of not
literally but but but they were being treated fairly poorly
and it wasn't acceptable and the record company were no
good and they went to their whatever South Korea run
as a sort of an employment authority, and the employment

(13:48):
authority decided yesterday that K pop band members are not workers.

Speaker 10 (13:53):
Influencers are not workers.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Anyway, where was I? So that song was going to
a biggin really fast. That took one hundred and eight days.
But this one, Lady Gagar and Bruno Mars, their song
Die with a Smile has achieved the billion streams in
ninety six days. Now here's the thing. It won't come

(14:22):
as any surprise to you to know that I hadn't
heard the song. But what was a surprise is young
Sammy across the computer screen from me, a man on
the cutting edge of the zeitgeist, he hadn't heard it either.

Speaker 11 (14:36):
I hadn't heard it either.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
That comes once again, Breen. There's no surprise here of
Boomer Radio. It has nominated that the Grammy's the Song
of the Year, Best Pop Duo of the Year. It
is number one in Belgian, Greece, Iceland, Indonesia, Israel, Japan,
eleven On, Luxembourg and Malaysia, Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, philipp Beans, Portugal, Singapore,
South Africa, Surinam, Switzerland and the United Arab Emirates. Apart

(15:02):
from that, no one's ever heard of it. It's like
an old people saying, Hi, I'm heard of that.

Speaker 12 (15:08):
Have you heard of that?

Speaker 13 (15:09):
Can?

Speaker 3 (15:09):
And I can't do that anyway. It's hot to trot
to use a cutting edge phrase.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
You're trusted Home The News for Entertainment's Opinion and Mike
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Speaker 3 (15:27):
Shart begins the Gates nomination. As I said to you
on the program last week, I was watching a couple
of people and they spent a lot of time trying
to second guess the Gates nomination. The Gates nomination was
so weird that they were trying to think, what does
it mean? Does it mean obviously he's going to fail
because everyone knows he was going to fail. I read
a very good article that said there is no way
they could not find more than twenty senators who would

(15:51):
vote for him, ever, because a lot of senators actually
take their job seriously. So then people started saying, wow,
given that is that, they get him up their stalking horse,
trojan horse. He fails. Then they slipped somebody in that's
a bit weird, that wouldn't have passed the first time,
but gets by a second time. And then the best
voice I heard was on a debate I was watching
on c and then he goes, you know what, I

(16:12):
think it is? What it is. I think Trump wants
him to be in the job and take it at
face value. Anyway, it's all falling apart now, of course,
because he went along with J. D. Barnce yesterday.

Speaker 14 (16:23):
J D.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Bannce turned up in Washington yesterday before he turned up
in Washington head X, Donald J. Trump has just won
a major electoral victory. His coat tails turned a forty
nine to fifty one Senate to fifty three forty seven.
He deserves a cabinet that is loyal to the agenda
he was elected to implement. When into the meeting, came
out of the meeting, Gates now is gone withdrawn his name.
It's over. So maybe he'll put that woman who ran

(16:46):
the wrestling in That, by the way, is worth watching
if you haven't seen mister McMahon, which is on Netflix,
and it's an insight into just how big WWEWWF is
and just how influential McMahon and his wife who's now
going to head the education department, unless he too turns

(17:07):
out to be so weird they can't cope with it.
Just how fascinating that business is. Twenty two minutes away
from seven anyway, Speaking of which, more from Richard Arnold shorty.
While we're on the broad subject, The United States Business
Summit is on today here could be interesting trade, security,
foreign policy, as you would expect, that's the order of
the day. The Aukland Business Chamber of CEO Simon Bridges

(17:29):
is whether, Simon, how are you hey boarding?

Speaker 15 (17:31):
Mike and not?

Speaker 10 (17:32):
Could be interesting? It will be interesting Mike by definition.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Good spruk. Are you going to talk? How many times
in the day will the word Trump be used? Do
you think.

Speaker 10 (17:42):
You know, this is New Zealand's It wouldn't surprise me
if people at a level find ways and euphemisms for that.
But I mean I think, you know, let's think about it,
it couldn't be at a level a better time for
a summit like this is hugely consequential. I mean, he
won big, he's got the Congress, as you say, he
can put in WWF stars if he wants, and the

(18:05):
geopolitics is immense. So me, what I'm looking forward to
seeing is really how the government plays that. We've got
Prime Minister Luxin and Trade Minister Todd McLay coming along.
How they got to play it on tariffs and you know,
I don't think it's good enough, and doesn't they say, well,
we need to wait and see. Actually, you know, if
you think about it, Winston was born for a time

(18:25):
such as this. I mean, this is the guy who
has had a policy platform that's broadly similar to what
we see from a new administration. Looks safer and probably
more sanitized. But you know, he can Todd McClay, who's
a wily operator, get over there and really work the
angles on tariffs, or at least, if not get rid
of them you know, get us favorable treatment on these things.

(18:47):
So these are sort of things I think we'll be
able to delve into and get offense off is.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
Are you trepidaceous in general? I mean, how much of
what you think might happen will happen from America's point
of view?

Speaker 10 (18:57):
Well, I hope, I hope you know by now I'm
some thing of a contrarian. So you know, I think
that the general view in New Zealand is, look, this
is this is absolutely terrible. It's catastrophic. Could there be
anything worse than they can be?

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Wrong?

Speaker 10 (19:09):
When I talk about tariffs and multi lateralism and and
how President Trump plays a bunch of things, you know,
there's definitely concerns to be to be had there, But
I think it's going to be rather maybe you know
glass half well, I think it can be rather better
than that. As I say, I think New Zealand personally
as good at righting the waves and working the angles.

(19:29):
And I think what's also true, just to think about this.
When Trump got in last time, the first thing he
did in trade was he ripped up CPTPP, which is
our one chance of getting an FTA with him. But
if you what happened in New Zealand American trade. Well,
it flourished actually from a bunch of primary sectors that
we'd always done well, and we were in rockets, we're
in a bunch of other euospace and technology, deep text stuff,

(19:53):
and we've seen the numbers grow actually almost exponentially. So personally,
I think we ca again have some optimism about this.
I think what's true is it can definitely be rather
better than the critics in New Zealand may think.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
I like your style. You go well. Joint Simon bridges
Auckland a business chamber CEO, nineteen minutes away from seven,
asking speak of which I'm John King? Who you know?
I'm a fan of CNN political operator. Anyway, before the election,
he went round America, talked to a whole lot of people,
got a vibe for what was going on as far
as voting was concerned. He's now done a piece and
he's gone back and he talked to some of the

(20:30):
people who voted for Trump and why they voted for Trump.
Many of them were people who may or may not
have been voting for Trump, used to vote the Democrats
and now vote Republican, etc. Listen to this woman's a
woman called Shannon Ebersol. She's an Iowa farmer, and she
references us.

Speaker 16 (20:45):
Why are we bringing Argentinian beef in? Why are we
bringing New Zealand and Australian beef in and then exporting
some of our beef? Why don't we first just feed
our beef to our Americans.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
Now it's a very good point she makes. I mean,
it's not a good point. It's an ignorant point. But
that's how many Americans think. So the answer to a
question is our beef is vastly superior to theirs, and
a lot of people like quality. But when you've got
a person like Sharon and there are millions of them,
how do you get past that if you're trying to
sprink your product in that part of the world. Day

(21:18):
Richard's next seventeen to two.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
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Speaker 3 (21:25):
Be unbelievable hypocrisy. Mike from jan Toinetti are labor serious.
Incredibly they think the hardker Art burst was justified. Fair text,
let me come back to it.

Speaker 17 (21:35):
Six forty five International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance,
Peace of Mind for New Zealand Business General.

Speaker 18 (21:42):
Morning to you good.

Speaker 15 (21:43):
What do you make?

Speaker 3 (21:44):
You could argue it was always going to end up
this way, couldn't you?

Speaker 19 (21:47):
Yes, But this is pretty fast moving, is it not?
Matt Gates pulling out from the nomination for Chief Justice
position as Attorney General. It comes to Gates had just
been on Capitol Hill yesterday, as you were saying, in
company with Jadvan, the Vice President elect, trying to compel
senators to vote for Gates. Then came this bombshell new
disclosure that the Ethics Panel had word of another sexual

(22:08):
encounter at the same party back in twenty seventeen, where
Gates was said to have had sex with an underage
girl aged seventeen. What is notable about this new testimony
is that this second sexual encounter at the party also
involved another adult woman who has denied there was a threesome.
But all this was a bit much. So here is
the first loss by Team Trump, which has been issuing

(22:29):
political threats as it tries to keep Senators in line. Earlier,
the Ethics Panel refused to release the report into gates
sexual activities. The panel has what five Republicans five Dems.
They did agree to complete the report but then one
of the Dems came out of the media accusing the
Republican Committee chair of suggesting they'd reached some settlement. They

(22:50):
had not, said this Democrat Susan Wilds, who said that
the committee boys had betrayed the process, so senators were
playing their games. At the same time, the New York
Times had released an FBI chart that they had obtained
showing a series of payments by Gates and by his
cohort Joel Greenberg, who's serving an eleven year prison term
for sex trafficking. That FBI chart shows some twenty seven payments,

(23:15):
including some of the ten thousand dollars in gates payments
to the two women who said earlier that he had
paid them for sex that included cash for that high schooler,
said her lawyer, Joel Leppard.

Speaker 20 (23:28):
The amounts that were provided on the screen during their
testimony Buy the House was from one client over six
thousand payments directly from representative Gates to my client, and
the amount was a little over four thousand directly from
representive Gates to my client.

Speaker 19 (23:45):
So a lot involved in all of this. One Trump
aid had been warning, quote, the message is if you're
on the wrong side of the vote. You're buying yourself
a primary, that is all. There's a guy named Elon
Musk who was going to finance it. So so much
for that. Even as the Gates debarcle was playing out,
the president of Lex Defense Choice Fox and Friends Weekend
TV co host Pete Heggsas is on Capitol Hill right

(24:06):
now as well, trying to win support as a graphic
police document has just come out on the claim by
a woman he met at a Republican women's conference, a
claim that he had sexually assaulted her. Heggs Seth denies that,
says he was cleared since no charges were brought. At
the same time, this thing is pretty lurid. This woman,
whose name is not being released, says HeiG Seth was

(24:28):
hitting on several women at the Republican conference, putting his
hand on their legs. His accuser says they got into
an argument, then she says she believes someone had slipped
something into her drink. She says she then awoke in
Hegseth's room, that she was hazy and only barely conscious,
and that he had taken her phone and blocked the doorway.
Hegg Seth says the sex was consensual, So that's part

(24:53):
of that story. Elsewhere, Nikki Haley, who was on Trump's
who was Trump's you an ambassador in his first season
and his former campaign opponent, of course, is slamming the
choice of Tulsey Gabbard as Director of National Intelligence. So
that's another story still playing out that says Hayley.

Speaker 13 (25:11):
This is not a place for a Russian, Iranian, Syrian,
Chinese sympathizer.

Speaker 19 (25:16):
So the Murdoch, Wall Street Journal and New York Post
Today also are opposing Gabbard. So will any of that
prevail against Trump and co?

Speaker 3 (25:24):
And what chance Google get rid of Chrome?

Speaker 19 (25:27):
Well, yeah, this is interesting. The Justice Department is proposing
the breakup of Google and it's a two triggeron dollar operation.
Along with the number of state states as well. The
Federal Department is asking the court to force Google to
reshape competition on the Internet. They want Google to, among
other things, so that web browser Chrome, which dominates the

(25:47):
market has about two thirds of users. The EJ also
is asking Google to sell Android, its smartphone operating system,
which again is the most popular on the mobile phone market,
with an estimated seventy percent plus of software systems over
This is going to be furiously challenged by googlers, you'd expect,
So don't anticipate any moves until late next year at

(26:07):
the earliest.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Have a good weekend, Richard Arnold state, So, by the way,
he's busy Trump at the moment. Susan Collins and Makowski,
who are a couple of Republicans, but they sort of
lean centrist, if not left. They've been backing up and
voting for Biden's picks on the judiciary or at the judiciary.
And there's still a couple of dozen more to go,
and so Trump's desperately trying to stop the courts as

(26:30):
he sees it being stacked with left wingers. It's an
interesting insight and how much influence the president has on
the judicial process. Since he's been in Senate's confirmed two
hundred and sixteen nominees for this federal judiciary. There are
two hundred and sixty one in place, so they're still
about what fifty to go. Nine away from seven.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
Called the Mike Hosking break best with Bailey's news dog Zendy.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Unbelievable hypocrisy yesterday from Jantinetti Mike Laiby serious, I would
defend Labor on this. I think what Erica Stanford did
was wrong. I was happened to be watching, of course
because I'm a tragic but it was about the school
bus routes and Labour's got a thing at the moment.
Now that the Casey Costello campaign that were running between
Asheveril and Casey Costello over the heated tobacco has fallen

(27:16):
apart because the Order to General wasn't having a bar
of it. They've moved on to rural school bus routes
and the government of mucking around with school bus routes,
changing some of them, canceling some of them, and so
Tananetti was all over that and they were going it
was a bit of back and forth. It was really
it wasn't even that sort of interesting until at the
very end, once Tannetti and she's been doing this for
a couple of days this week in question time, until

(27:38):
Tananetti the n asked for a question, Stanford came back
and laid out all the bus routes that Labor had
canceled in their time, thus pulling the rug out from
under Tannetti. At which point I'm assuming Erica felt pretty
good about herself and Caldry. You know what, but there
is no excuse for this lang, for this language and
that sort of attitude. And she did stand and apologize quickly,
so you can't. Unfortunately, five minutes away from seven B,

(28:03):
the ins.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
And the ouse.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
It's the fiz with business fiber, take your business productivity
to the.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Next level, glass houses and all that first attempt from
Rachel Reeves to grow the economy. This is Britain, not
to put two fine a point on it is not working.
We got new numbers from the Office of National Stats.
It shows the government borrowed more than expected. No keetting
pushed the public finances deeper into the red. Government borrowed
thirty seven point four billion dollars last month alone, second

(28:30):
highest October figure since record began in nineteen ninety three.
They were only expected to borrow twenty six point five billion.
Book what's eleven billion between friends. They also borrow thirty
four billion in September. Public sector net borrowing was three
point four billion dollars higher than the same month last year.
The level of monthly interest needed to pay that particular
amount of debt is monthly interest. You're ready monthly interest,

(28:53):
not paying it down just paying the monthly interest bill.
It's nineteen point six billion dollars each and every month,
and that's a record. Of course, this was indeed signaled
by Reeves because she is from Labor, and she said,
we are here to spend and borrow and borrow and spend.
She would increase spending on public services by four point
three percent this year, two point six percent next year,
one point three percent for the three years after that.
Economists say there is no doubt that if she wants

(29:15):
to stick to those spending increases, she will need to
further raise taxes to pay for it. At this point,
thousands of poms, if not millions of Palms, are going,
oh goodness, May why did I vote for the Labor Party?
This isn't very good. They cut my eating payment and
they're up e my taxes. And that's before you get
to the inflation debate. Of course, if you throw a
lot of money into the economy, especially borrowed money, that
tends to be inflationary. And they sort of had the

(29:37):
inflation under control until we oh, Whoopscott the inflation number,
as I told you, But was it yesterday or the
day before it came out? That went up? More than
they thought it would now Medical school at Wykato, third
medical school. We need a third medical school. David seymore
has found some problems with it. I'm not sure if
he's found problems with the school itself or the idea itself.
That's why he's on the program. In a couple of moments,

(29:58):
Scott Barrett's let's talk Rugby Italy styles. He's with us
up to seven.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
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Speaker 3 (30:16):
Dad being seven past seven, So I've got a question
mark around the new proposed medical school in Wycatto. It's
National Party policy, of course, but Act to wonder about
the maths and whether it all adds up. The ACT
leader David Seymour's with us. Very good morning to you,
Good morning. Make This is not this is not an
argument around whether we need more doctors or not. This
is an argument around the cost of training them. Is
that fair or not.

Speaker 21 (30:35):
Yeah, it's absolutely an argument around how you get more doctors.
But you've got to go through all of the questions
before you decide how to do that. So, for example,
would it make sense to increase the subsidies for GPS
as acts campaigned on to stop them leaving? Would it
help to change the funding formula which frustrates a lot
of doctors And anecdotally, while many work every hour God

(30:58):
gives them, there's others who actually look at the formula
and so it makes sense to work fewer days per
week for lifestyle reasons. Would it make sense to expand
the two very good medical schools we've got before we
eat the fixed costs on creating a new one? And
this I think is a very good example of the
coalition agreement working well. At to National have quite a

(31:21):
different view on this, but we're put together a process
for working through our differences and matters full cost benefit
analysis on what really is the best way to get
more doctors? Is it to plug the hole in the
bucket or is it to keep putting more water in
a very expensive water?

Speaker 3 (31:35):
In this case, can Auckland and the Tiger actually expand.

Speaker 21 (31:39):
They absolutely believe that they can.

Speaker 15 (31:43):
Logically, you know, they're.

Speaker 21 (31:45):
Not necessarily large med schools by world standards, and what
limit is there anyway?

Speaker 3 (31:50):
So can you materially put on a piece of paper,
it costs X to train a student at Auckland or
the Tigo versus why at a Tiger, why Kato. Therefore
it doesn't make any sense or not.

Speaker 21 (32:02):
Well, that's the job of the cost benefit analysis, and
the government's commissioned people to do it. They had to
go at it. We pointed out that they hadn't actually
counted the cost of training specialists, only the costs of
training gps, which we thought was not quite right. And
they've made a lot of assumptions about whether or not
a GP trained at Wykatta would be more likely to

(32:23):
stay in a rural area. If we pointed out that
Hamilton is not actually a rural area anymore, and Auckland
and Otago have extensive training schemes where GPS train in
the community anyway, including ironically in Hamilton. So you know,
you can go back and forth with all these arguments.

(32:44):
But if we're going to spend taxpayer money, and I
think one of 's jobs is to be well where
the Association of consumers and taxpayers technically our job is
to be a second pair of eyes on government spending,
especially in these times, then we've got to be sure
this is actually the best, most efficient way to get
both fair enough, if.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
The numbers don't stack up, they don't stack up. Having
said that, this is a five tom, Have you been
recruited by a tiger in Auckland because they don't like
the fivedom broken? No.

Speaker 21 (33:08):
I got recruited by Auckland about twenty four years ago.
But you know, I've been lobbied by all three universities,
and my loyalty is not to any of the three.
It's to the taxpayer. If anything, I look at the
way the University of Auckland's behaving to valuing my degree
with a forty second in the world where I was
there now were one hundred and fiftieth. Because of the

(33:31):
unending crap that they insist on teaching students instead of
actual science in academia, I'd probably be that I was prejudiced.
It would be against Orkland.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
No, No, you got me going now that course next
year that they're going to make you take in Maori.
Why are you part of a government that allows that
bollocks to come to pass?

Speaker 21 (33:52):
Mainly because the government has pretty limited ability to influence
universities their self governing entities, we are putting in place
laws that say they have to have a free speech policy.
I know Penny Simmons, Minister for Tertiary is as quickly
as possible. She did nothing panting better people to the boards.

Speaker 22 (34:09):
Yeah, well she's only she's just about had a year.

Speaker 21 (34:12):
But I just make the point to a lot of people.
You know, people say why haven't you changed everything? If
this was Pyongyang, I would have. But as a New Zealander,
I actually want to live at a society with independent
institutions that can act on their own terms, with some
trust in society, even if I don't agree with everything
that every institution's doing right now. So can we change it?

Speaker 15 (34:35):
Yep?

Speaker 21 (34:35):
Can we change it right away?

Speaker 3 (34:36):
No?

Speaker 21 (34:37):
But I want to live in a society where a
politician like me could change every institution straight away.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Definitely not good to see it. David Seymour, Act Party Leader.
By the way, if you haven't followed, if you're on
social media, it was alluded to it yesterday because I'm
not on social media Actor now sticking up what they
call the bridgewalk, and the bridgewalk is when the politician
leaves the officers and goes to the Parliament and the
media gather around them and start firing off one hundred
different questions act in our filming that as an exercise.

(35:02):
And if you ever want to see just how unhinged
some of the media in this country are. It's the
stuff we'll never put on the television at night and
you'll never actually hear until you see that. Go watch
some of them and shake your head in dismay. Twelve
minutes past seven, the Ministry of healths brief on puberty blockers.
That's our doctors have been told to take a precautionary
approach due to insufficient evidence. This comes as well with

(35:25):
the toughest set of rules for prescribing now. The University
of Auckland pediatric indrochronologist Paul Hoffman is where's Paul? Very
good moaning to you. Thank you, Mike, Am I correct
in saying you were a reviewer of some of this stuff.

Speaker 18 (35:38):
Yeah, I was an externer review to just go through
it after the initial drafts have been made.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
How many people are actually affected by this in this
country versus how many people potentially get exercised about the
topic generally.

Speaker 18 (35:55):
Really good question, and I think one of the frustrations
we don't know for sure there'll be several hundred, probably
like talking of one hundred and fifteen to one hundred
and twenty, but I think the numbers are a lot
larger than that in ters of those of humanity blockers,
but we don't know for sure, And that is one
of the requests I've made is that that Farmac makes

(36:15):
the drug identifiable for transgender use, so that we can
get a good idea of how many there are.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
How much evidence, how much of this is evidence based
versus theory based, ideologically based.

Speaker 18 (36:30):
Well, I think that's what's about. And I think the
review very clearly, and I think it's a very sensible review.
It goes down the road because there, I think if
you look at the wider safety, looking at all the
kids of which there are one hundreds of thousands over
the last thirty years been on the strug, it is
a very safe, reversible drug. But in terms of us
efficacy there's much the data is poor, and that just

(36:52):
reflects doctors not assuming that's going to work without actually
following up and making sure it does.

Speaker 3 (36:58):
And what are the odds of how much variation is there?
Because presumably you started on the journey of this with
a GP is there is there variation all over the place.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (37:08):
Yeah, We've had a right spaced approach and Zealand as
opposed to a more evidence based approach for some time.
In other words, it's a personas they feel trans that
see right to have the stridit medication as opposed to
being evidence space justifiable done in a modern displute team
where there's mental health support, other issue, another expertise. And
so I think we are going down what the risk

(37:30):
most of the risk of the world are doing, is
going down to a more conservative, evidence spased approach with
the right round care for these very problecuts.

Speaker 3 (37:37):
Good all right, Paul, you have a good week. I
appreciate it very much. Paul Hopman, Pediatric endo chronologist. Councils
will be able to borrow more or some of them?
Is this wise more? Shortly fourteen past the.

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Speaker 3 (37:56):
Scott Barrett coming shortly seventeen past seven. New idea for
councils around deb If you in a high growth area,
you will be able to borrow more the local government.
New Zealand President Sam Broughton's with us on the same
morning to you.

Speaker 15 (38:06):
Yeah, good morning, Mark.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
The criteria for high growth, I get it, But when
you're forecasting out a good number of years, is that
watering into the world of guesswork.

Speaker 12 (38:16):
Well, I think it's important to look at what the
government's responding to, and that's the need to address rates,
affordability and think about the infrastructure deficit that New Zealand
currently has. So lifting the threshold to three hundred and
fifty percent will make a material differense for many councils
and as a good news story, and we welcome the Yeah, it's.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
It's a good news story because if you borrow more
to build a bridge or a pipe or whatever, that's brilliant.
But then councils tend not to pay it back, and
then they reach their limit and then the next thing
you're doing is talking about increasing the limit, which is
very American, isn't it.

Speaker 12 (38:47):
Well, it does still have to be paid back, and
I think that's a key thing for New Zealanders to understand,
which want better infrastructure, we are going to have to
pay for it. But this infrastructure lasts, you know, fifty
one hundred years, and so being able to borrow it
over a longer period of time as important rather than
just today's rate payers having to funds infrastructure that's going
on the ground last.

Speaker 15 (39:04):
A long time.

Speaker 3 (39:05):
Can you hate name me any councils who pay back
their debt.

Speaker 15 (39:08):
Yeah, my council pays back. It's debt.

Speaker 12 (39:10):
That's part of part of being the responsible governor is
making sure that we understand.

Speaker 3 (39:14):
Your count your counselors, that you're one of the hut
councils here.

Speaker 15 (39:17):
No, I'm a mire of Cellon District.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
My apologies. So you've paid back how much in terms
of principle as opposed to interest.

Speaker 15 (39:26):
So we take our debts over different profiles of time.

Speaker 12 (39:28):
It depends on what we're borrowing for and we pay
that back according to LGFA rule. So that means obviously
there's quite a lot of interest in the first parts
of loans and it's similar to bankle ending. But we
make sure that over time we've paid back the debt
and we profile that over our ten year plan.

Speaker 3 (39:45):
Is your debt going down or not.

Speaker 12 (39:48):
It will go down over ten years, but at the
moment we're a high growth council will be borrowing more over.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
So you're not really paying a Backstam, you're borrowing more
as you pay it back. You borrow more, is what
I'm saying.

Speaker 12 (39:57):
Yes, yes, well and a high growth purpose and you're
going to have to borrow more to fund the infrastructure
that growth requires.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
My point being, are we not simply getting ourselves as
much as we all agree we need some infrastructure. That's true,
But are we simply not getting into more and more
and more debt and inevitably that's going to bite us
in the bump.

Speaker 12 (40:17):
Yes, we are borrowing more and more debt and we
have to because rate paths currently can't afford to fund
the infrastructure deficit we're in. So at the moment, council's
got two options rate or borrow, and borrowing has been
opened up, so that's good. We're looking for new tools
from the governments to fund local government. Yesterday we launched
twenty five new tools and those would help the rating impact.

(40:37):
We could have GST on new builds, returns, mineral extraction
royalties returned to local governments, local settings of fees and
charges without legislation. Those things would help the rating impact
rather than needing to borrow.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
All right, man, appreciate it very much. Sam Broughton, the LG.
Wonder who's the guy I was thinking of on the hut? Then?
Who used to be with the local government? Or am
I just literally making things up? Time to Marke Week
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In fact, absolute classic. If you've been waiting for the
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Of course, Ridley Scott's back, so the sequels in good

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Pasking I's thinking of Campbell Berry, who's the VP? Not
completely insane? Sam brought and Mike sounds very on to

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it makes sense? Can Sam be the mayor? Please? I
live in Wellington? Sammers from the labour camp might burrow
and spend? And who cares about the future? Right time
to make the week seven twenty four little piece of
news and current events that the Ethics Committee are dead
locked on releasing in New Zealand. Second Well, with the
bad news to get another plane granted, came the good news.
They are looking to reconnect us to London. No bad thing,

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school sport in the country. Who doesn't love a pickup
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a turning of the tireder, restoration of some common sense
and some realization of just how shabby this place has become.
World War three three, let's keep our powder dry? Shall

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we are missile as not an escalation make You might
remember we're still waiting for Iran to respond in the
other war, and that was ages ago. One thousand days too.
This will end in a salemate. Russia are hopeless at fighting,
the US is out of patients, Europe can't afford it.
There will not be another one thousand days. Sweden, Finland
and Norway four is sending up Pamphlet's really a good

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Biden was there, which was pointless. Trump wasn't there, Nothing happened.
It reflects a planet in a malays And that's before
we get to COP twenty nine one. Even the Zealots
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two bits of news A and Z who said the
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Swift three, with an education system like our in the
state it's in, is it really wise to spook as
they did this week a Taylor's Swift course? Is that
really your calling card? Dry nine? If you hit ten bucks,
that's a record. What a year and what a time
to have a year. North and South Magazine four Media
ain't dairy clearly the All Black seven. It'll be a

(44:20):
solid win this weekend and a twur that I think
overall you would be churlish not to call a success.
And that's the week Copies on the website and a
new favorite of Chris Martin, as it turns out, after
after Matt Heath smuggled a copy into his back pocket
when they were having a little cuddle backstage, like pasking,
I have people forgotten, Mike that you send a called
David Seymour an arrogant prick. Look this, I'm disappointed in

(44:41):
that just because there's one idiot in the room, don't
make it too just because there's one wrong doesn't make
it a right. Mike, what's your view on the economist's
view on our fiscal management and the criticism of willis?
Do you agree? Well, I featured this on the program yesterday.
You got a tune in every day six through nine,
and well, I'm asking three hours each day, five days
a week. Come on, it's not that it's Robert mccallor's work.

(45:01):
I read it out yesterday. I don't agree with him
as much as he agrees with himself, but I don't
think he's wrong. And my only defense, as I said yesterday,
is there one year in and so time they got
two more, so give them a break. But some of
the underlying points he makes about the government in general,

(45:22):
I've gotten elements of sympathy with. If you haven't read
the article as I see yesterday, hit a copy in
your nearest Herald. Scott Barrett is standing by an Italy for.

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Cody do the week out for Right This morning being
a Friday, twenty three to eight, final test in the
Northern two for the All Black Sunday. Of course, assuming
Italy gets beaten, that will be ten victories, four losses
ten four season All Blacks Captain Scott Barris with Scott
Barrett with us from Duran. Good morning, going very well.
Indeed take us through the week in terms of moving

(46:03):
on from France and shifting your mindset to Italy.

Speaker 14 (46:07):
Yeah, it's yeh took of it to get over that game.
Still probably haven't to be honest.

Speaker 15 (46:13):
Yeah, sort of.

Speaker 14 (46:14):
Using that as a bit of fuel for this weekend.
But you can't really change that result and it will
probably be you know, a bit of a people under
the beach towel as Yeah, an old coach once said,
when you're not quite you know now the India Tours,
as you'd like.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
What's the rais of thinking much much is being made
this morning of the quality of the side being named
against Italy. What's the rais of thinking behind a full
strength side?

Speaker 14 (46:40):
I think you've got to give Italy credit. And you
know we've we've we've headed up north on this tour
and we've wanted to you know, test ourselves against the
best and you know, I guess restore a bit of
manna in the Jersey and you know at times, you know,
we haven't really done too well up here in previous

(47:04):
tours and at the World Cup, I guess, but yeah,
I guess that's probably a bit of reasoning. Ways he
sent the full cavalry out for Italy.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
How has the build up if it has changed this week,
given we're at the end of the tour, there's a
bit of fatigue. I'm assuming there are certainly some injuries.
Does it change dramatically or not?

Speaker 22 (47:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (47:23):
The experienced medicals and strengths and conditioning guys, you know,
like Gillie, they have the expertise and pull back on
some stuff. It's you know, you're not going to get
any further this week. It's about getting the body right
for Saturday and ultimately putting the performance in for eighty
minutes that we can be proud of. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
And how and how do you feel how you personally
come through the tour?

Speaker 14 (47:48):
Yeah, I'm a little bit. Yeah, I've sort of imagine
a week this week. Your raises, you know, just said
to me get your body right for Saturday, and you know,
set out of a few of the reps on on
training just to you know, freshen up and really fill
the tank for the one last effort against Italy.

Speaker 3 (48:06):
Assuming it goes well ten to four for the season,
I would say that, I mean, that's not bad, is it.

Speaker 14 (48:14):
I guess I wouldn't say that it's great. You know,
this team has high expectations and you know we come
second or potentially even third. I guess in the Rugby
Championship against South Africa and its Lee losing to the
Sorry and Argentina losing to them. You know, I think

(48:37):
h Then to the India tour, we had a focus
on improving each game and I think we did that, Yeah, narrowly,
narrowly losing to France that they weren't hurt, and you know,
I think that the team would be better for that.
There's a lot of young guys who have wore the
jersey for the first time and really stepped up, which

(48:57):
is pleasing to see and you know holds well for
the future.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
What about a couple of names. TJ comes off the bench.
I'm assuming he'll get some game time given it to
his last But what are people like Sam Kine. It's
a fair well presumably all you guys rally around them.

Speaker 14 (49:13):
Yeah, Sam and TJ are certainly given a lot to
the All Black jersey and the team over the past
few years, and I guess particularly Sam, you know, then
captain and it's great to have him and then around
the environment the last year and you know, he's been
huge for this group and he's he's just a great

(49:35):
leader and a great man. So hopefully we can send
them off in the right manner for a good performance and.

Speaker 3 (49:41):
What happens to the side, Scott, after that you're all
dispersing to Europe, you're coming home. What happens there?

Speaker 14 (49:49):
Yeah, there's promotional activities at the end of the year
for one group. I think they're going to Geneva for
true to promos and then never undisperses most head back
to New Zealand. So yeah, I think a few boys
I be looking forward to a much Yeah, preserve break.
There's a few dang du bodies. But yeah, hopefully we

(50:11):
get through this game and you know that's eighty minute
performance that we can hang a hat on and be
proud of.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
All right, go well, mate, Scott Barrett, All Blacks captain
out of Churin for us this morning. It's term ninety
minutes away from it.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
Tasking.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
I'm like fy twenty thirty thirty five forty. What do
you reckon? Mind? You originally any better than they used
to be. Mike incorrect about our beef being superior to
US beef. US consumers unanimously prefer. Well, that's simply not true.
The word is right. They don't unanimously prefer, because if
they did, we wouldn't export any beef to America unanimously
prefer their grain fed beef and consider our grass fed

(50:47):
product inferior. Well, they're wrong, of course. Beef trade to
the US is so lucratives have. We've got favorable quota
access and they use their lean beef for grinding into
hamburger patties. Just let me give you a quick lesson
on the grass b grain and the reason we're so
successful internationally because of health benefits. The health benefits of
grass is typically leaner, better for your heart. Grass feed

(51:10):
is higher in essential nutrients that's tied to improve dimmunity
and anti inflam benefits as well more antioxidants. They can
lower the risk of diseases like heart disease and certain
types of cancer. There are more omega three fatty acids,
not as many as salmon, but Nevertheless, more than grain
and grass fed beef is about two to three dollars
more expensive per pound because it's a premium product. So

(51:31):
by the time you get the beef and the lamb
and the wine into that particular part of the world.
And that's why it was discussing. I can't remember who
it was with, but I suggested is that at least
in part possible it was the main frat guy. Is
at least in part possible that some of our stuff,
even with tariffs, are going to go into America and
by the time they end up on Fifth Avenue, there's

(51:53):
enough people with enough money in that particular part of
the world that if you have to pay an extra
dollar for a bottle of wine or an extra dollar
for a pound of beef, they're happy to do it
because they've got the money and its top quality and
people will always buy top quality. Quality. Beats quantity every
day of the week seventeen to two.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
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Speaker 3 (52:17):
Before I leave the broad subject of rugby. Very good
piece in the Sydney Morning Herald yesterday, interview with Joe Schmidt,
who they claim has revolutionized Australian rugby. His involvement at
the tournament's up in the tournament we refer to is,
of course, the World Cup. It's the million dollar question
that everyone in Australian rugby apparently is asking from the
boardroom to the living room. And since signing on as

(52:38):
the savior of Wallaby's rugby back in January, he's not
only helped Australian rugby back to its feet, he's got
the code up and running again. So they're spreaking in
big time. The Wallabies would dispatch Wales by a record
score after they talked to him, but after a famous
win over England at the start of the tour, success
won't be measured by staying undefeated. Already, the winning Wallabies
are back in the national conversation in a positive way,

(53:00):
looking ahead to a sold out British and Irish Lions
series next year. Hope and optimism springs a new for fans,
players and officials. But Schmid only signed a contract to
coach the Wallabies until the end of the line series
in July. It's something I know. I have to make
a decision on what would he do? What should he do?
You wouldn't leave it half undone, would you? If you've

(53:22):
got some life back in the side, would you leave
it half undone? I reckon, He'll stay Mike. Do you
know the US subsidize the farming industry five billion dollars
a year? Yes, I do. And that's the problem with America,
and that's why they've never been free traders. And when
they talk about free trade, they make it up because
it's simply isn't true. Mike, just enjoying my grasp fed
ribby for breakfast, really Philly full on breakfast, my friend.

(53:46):
By the way, Marie News organization has been leaked to
the letter the Privilege's Letter from Todd Stevenson, the ACTMP.
A number of people wrote to the Privileges Committee there's
going to be one to watch in the next couple
of days. So what happens is they write to the
Speaker and they go blah blah blah. Here's the problem.
Speaking gives the people named in the letter an opportunity
to reply, at which point he makes a decision as

(54:07):
to whether he sends it off to the Privileges Committee.
He will, And this is the Harker that I'm talking about.
Once it gets in front of the Privileges Committee. That's
where the real pressure will need to be applied because
what happened is we've discussed on the program this week,
what happened to the House was a disgrace and it
was an embarrassment and it needs to never happen again.

(54:27):
The big question, this is what Shane Jones was on
the program about, is do we need to adjust standing
orders to do something more? I mean, the Privileges Committee
can literally put you in jail. That's how powerful the
Privileges Committee are. They never will them have, of course,
but they can. And so something substantive needs to be
done to send a message to those people who without

(54:50):
question breached the privilege of the House, and so that
they never do it again. Now, the interesting thing here
is that all the people who participated, Obviously the three
Mariy MP's were the stars of the show. I used
that phrase loosely. But the people named who actually participated
and supported Ara's follow Steve Abel he's a Green MP,

(55:11):
Ginny Anderson, Carmela Belich, Glenn Bennock, Ruben Davidson. Though I
know you haven't heard of art these people because the
Labour Party and they're asleep at wheel half the time.
Julianne Jenter, Ingrid Leary, Ricardo Mendez, Tracy McClellan, Termouth of
Paul landfam Deborah Russell, Carmel Sepaloney, Chloe Swarbrick, and so
it goes. You'll note how many labor MPs are Involveded

(55:32):
Helen White, Arena Williams, Scott Willis. They're all as culpable
as the Maori Party members. So it's going to be
fascinating to see whether the Privileges Committee got a backbone.
Ten away from a the my.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
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Speaker 3 (55:52):
Mike's white people are calling to Netty a hypocrite because
I get I get it, but once again I repeat
what I said earlier too. Wrongs don't make it right.
Seven away from bit of Tech for your future of
small business is not with the old f pos. Apparently
all the merchant fees. We've got a new tap to
pay on iPhone technology. It's TTPOI technology, which is launched
locally this week. Head of Stripe, New Zealand, Ben Hannah,

(56:13):
where's Ben morning?

Speaker 14 (56:15):
Good morning, Mike.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
Now I've seen this in Australia, so this is the
stuff that's come from US a week. It's not from Australia,
but it's out there in the world already. Yeah.

Speaker 18 (56:23):
Here, it's out there.

Speaker 22 (56:25):
This launch follows our partnership with Apple and Australia and
Europe and the US. So it's a technology that's been
broadly used around the world.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
So it is just phone to phone, right, So in
other words, instead of Apple paying as I do at
the moment with another machine, it's the merchant's got the phone.
I've got the phone. Tappity taps, and that's how it works.

Speaker 22 (56:47):
Well, there's a little bit more to it. So the
experience means that a merchant can take any contactless form
of payment, whether that's a credit card or a debit
card or a digital wallet, that they present a strike
supported app, and then the payment has completed on their
mobile phone.

Speaker 3 (57:07):
Okay, so the guy brings out the phone behind the counter.
I pay in any way I currently do, but instead
of putting a card into a machine or tapping a machine,
I'll just do it with this phone.

Speaker 22 (57:20):
Yeah that's right.

Speaker 3 (57:21):
Okay, what those people and this is in your wheelhouse.
I suppose you know those machines where you've got to
insert the card still because they don't have payWave and stuff. Yes,
what are you going to do there? Does that negate
those problems? In other words, when they say it's tag
expense have to tap and go, does this negate that
cost for a merchant?

Speaker 13 (57:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 22 (57:42):
So taxp on iPhone businesses cut out the expense and
the complexity of having to manage and run traditional FPOs terminals.
By using their iPhone. It cuts down on hardware costs,
deployment time, and administration. All they do is set up
their accounts, down load the app, and they can start
taking payments really quickly and easily.

Speaker 3 (58:03):
And when you say iPhone is the equivalent of Android
going to be about the place of it isn't already
about the place.

Speaker 22 (58:09):
It's already available. So Stripe taps pay is available for
Android devices in New Zealand. Making sure that we've got
really broad reach across the market.

Speaker 3 (58:18):
How much is out there right now? How many I'm
near personally, I don't think experiences how much of it's
out there right now?

Speaker 22 (58:25):
Well, Apple launched this yesterday in New Zealand, and we
have some really interesting innovative platforms that serve small business
like Timely Aqili founded here in beauty booking system. They're
one of the first companies to offer strike cap to
pay on iPhone in New Zealand. And then me and
you the app table ordering platform that became really popular

(58:47):
during COVID. You know, the QR code ordering system they went.
They launched yesterday as well.

Speaker 3 (58:52):
Okay, good stuff, Ben Hannett Technology, It's a wonderful thing.
Sometimes Head of New Zealand at Stripe, Mike, give me
one of those, Glenn, gimme a Posking. That's the issue
is that our medical schools recruit and train the very
elite who become specialists who inevitably head overseas, and not
those best suited to fill the health system gaps at

(59:14):
the GP level. Hamish, you could not be more wrong.
You've got me on a I'm taking on the audience, Friday,
I've taken on the beef, on the beef haters, I'm
taking on you.

Speaker 11 (59:24):
If Mike tells you why you're wrong, Friday.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
Yeah, why. One of the great joys of my life
over the last five to six years has been watching
my daughter go through med school and this idea that
people in med school are elite, and this idea that
they're all going on to be specialists is wrong and
I will come back to it later on in the
program Us for You In a couple of moments. Tim
Wilson Kate hawksby Next.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
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Speaker 1 (59:51):
The range Rover, the la designed to intrigue and use
togs dead be.

Speaker 23 (59:57):
Be CanYa.

Speaker 1 (01:00:01):
This, Seldan Galil.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
Can't we just get for once one week and just
some regular ordinary everyday music.

Speaker 11 (01:00:13):
Mate, the regular ordinary everyday radio shows do that?

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Is that what they are? Where they are in the way?

Speaker 10 (01:00:20):
Correct?

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
What are we doing this for just to be edgy?

Speaker 11 (01:00:26):
And let's not forget that we played the quickest songs
the stream Alian streams and we haven't ordered it this morning,
and neither you nor I nor Young Sam Am I right,
I've heard of.

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
It, Caddy, good morning. Have you heard Yaga and the
other guy Bruno Mars song?

Speaker 23 (01:00:48):
No? I have not heard that song.

Speaker 24 (01:00:50):
And I was surprised to hear that it had been streams.
It must be other countries.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
Because well it's number one in New Zealand. Oh and
once again, haven't been listening to the haven't been listening to? Tim?
Good morning? To you. I would ask you, Tim, but
I'm not confident that you would know anything about modern music?
Would are the correct in saying that? Yeah, dah, you've
you've look this is?

Speaker 25 (01:01:10):
This is just absolutely what I what I hear is
modern music is the sound of boys shouting, screaming and
saying the word bum.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
That's modern music, isn't it? That is it? Hey who
sponsors the show Glen the.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
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Kiwi business.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
This, by the way, is Saint Vincent and the album
is called todos nafzeng the Tundle. Give it a bit
of player, otherwise it's just last and gritender, which is
doesn't sound as good. That's how we used to say
it back in the old days.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Mate, ten tracks.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
And forty and a half minutes of this.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
You can this isn't quite a cool song.

Speaker 3 (01:01:53):
What's the category? This is pretty good? What would you CREDI?
What what category is? Well?

Speaker 11 (01:01:58):
She's she's old pop. I mean she doesn't always sing
in Spanish. She's just done this one in Spanish.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Cool. I got two things to cover off with you guys, Yeah,
what's the better deal?

Speaker 23 (01:02:15):
Was that a dramatic pause.

Speaker 3 (01:02:18):
I just try to remember which one to go first. Right,
Ruby Hanson. Ruby Hansen went to the Coldplay concert. Right?
Ruby Hanson went to the Coldplay concert. One of the
songs what happens is I couldn't get to the bottom
of the story and whether it happens every concert of
this was one off. Chris Martin throws his guitar in
the air at the end of a song. This is

(01:02:38):
an acoustic guitar. Throws his guitar in the air. It
hits the edge of the stage and breaks and falls
down in front of Ruby's feet. She grabs the guitar
and thinks, oh my god, I've got Chris Martin's guitar.
Guard comes up to her and goes, look, could we
possibly have that back to repair the guitar? Would that
be okay? She then sits there and goes, oh sha,

(01:03:02):
and she does. She hands back the guitar, and they
are so impressed by her her kindness or generosity that
they then give it the guitar. So she's now got
Chris Martin's guitar forever. That's cool, right.

Speaker 23 (01:03:18):
I think that that whole thing was probably a setup.
They didn't really want that.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
Bad today I wouldn't have thought that. Why would you
want to break in guitar? You, Chris Martin? You just
buy another guitar. I would have thought so, but let's
not ruin the story at this particular point in time.
Is that Is that a better experience, I e. You've
got Chris Martin's guitar forever or Matt Heath's experience where
he's got nothing but but he had a little cuddle

(01:03:42):
with Chris Martin backstage. I'd rather have the guitar. I
would rather have a smash guitar. Thanks.

Speaker 23 (01:03:51):
I mean depends if the smash guitar is going to
be worth something.

Speaker 3 (01:03:55):
You've got it on tradeing unbelievable.

Speaker 26 (01:04:00):
How much you are it going to be worth? You
get for you get three K.

Speaker 3 (01:04:05):
Wouldn't you? I reckon you'd probably get more if you
hyped it and you get more. I think you probably.

Speaker 11 (01:04:09):
Get My question around the Matt Heath thing though, is
he says he wasn't allowed photos and stuff, right, so
we're literally just taking his word for it.

Speaker 25 (01:04:21):
Well, it depends if you want to this is this
is the and these are the guys that messed up
your studio.

Speaker 26 (01:04:26):
He's really going to trust them their pigs.

Speaker 11 (01:04:28):
This is the guy who had who had a noise
control officer call into their show to talk about the
time he was called out to math heat. The guy
who admitted on air yesterday that he stole somebody else's
coffees at the coffee shop across the road. This is
the kind of person we're dealing with.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
See, I don't listen to the I don't listen to
the show. That's good. That's good Intel, Glenn, that's real
good into But I think I'd probably take now which
brings me and I wasn't going to raise this, but
it does bring me to.

Speaker 26 (01:04:57):
Take the hug.

Speaker 23 (01:04:58):
I take the hug and me.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
I believe that be the case. That's what I would
have gone to as well. I would have gone with
the personal experience. But he's for my birthday. K Just
this is This is just a top ten.

Speaker 23 (01:05:09):
Not another thing to add to the list.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
Just discovered it yesterday. Just discovered it yesterday. You remember
how I took school serp music and I was quite
good on the guitar. I think you failed. Yeah I did,
But that wasn't the point I was.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
I was.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
I was that wasn't the vibe of the failure. No exactly.
I was keen on the guitar having a good time.
You a good time, and I can still hit you
with a G, A D, an, A C and an
E all day.

Speaker 26 (01:05:38):
This was when the guitar, This was when the guitar
was taller than you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Right, that's it. Do you know what? Do you know
what you can get your hands on now? Bona fardie
a Trump guitar.

Speaker 26 (01:05:48):
A Trump guitar Agerica.

Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
Late Again as signed by Donald Trump guitar.

Speaker 23 (01:05:55):
But what's he got to do with guitar?

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
Yeah, the point he's got nothing to do with high
tops and after day either. But you can get those.

Speaker 26 (01:06:01):
Watchers there are Trump watch election victory victory watching.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
How cool would it be to have in the entrance
way on a stand because it would need to come
with a stand, A Make America Great Again Donald Trump,
signed by Donald Trump guitar.

Speaker 24 (01:06:15):
I know that you're joking, so I'm not even gonna
ar remotely, certainly not appear.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
I would wear it and play it with my make
America Great Again Trump hat that Jack table wear it.

Speaker 23 (01:06:26):
I found it the other day.

Speaker 24 (01:06:27):
I think I hit it at some point because I
thought that, you know, we might get strung up.

Speaker 23 (01:06:31):
But I actually found the other.

Speaker 25 (01:06:33):
Day actually, wait, wait a minute, wait a minute, Jack
Taine brought me one of those caps as well.

Speaker 26 (01:06:37):
Are you sure that these are real caps?

Speaker 23 (01:06:39):
I don't think yeah, I actually think it's a fake.

Speaker 24 (01:06:41):
When Jactane brought us on as well, and I looked
at it and I thought, this isn't actually a mega hat.

Speaker 23 (01:06:45):
This looks like a side of the road.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
Interesting. I think they were getting them away last time.
He was an All Birds. I think you buy a
set of All Birds and you get a couple of
fake Make America Great hats again. Now more in a
Moment's thirteen.

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Speaker 3 (01:07:14):
Hey, Mike, I want to hear you play the guitar,
bringing guitar into the studio. Give us all the tune
you see. Of course, requests are coming in already, Mike.
I have an original made in America or Make America
Great Again cap purchased at the last New York Trump
rally before the election. But if you look at the
tag inside the hat says made in China. Isn't that funny?

(01:07:35):
Are now second part of the program and this is
a big scrap unfolding as we speak on Facebook. And
this is a pop quiz. I'll start with you, Tim,
because I don't know whether you indulge in this stuff,
but I know we don't, So Tim, how much do
you expect to pay for a scoop of chips at
the fish and chip shop? Scoop chips?

Speaker 22 (01:07:53):
What is it?

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
Four fifty caddie?

Speaker 23 (01:07:56):
Ummm gosh, I honestly not have a clue.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
No, No, five tops. No, you said four to fifty, ten,
it's not four to fifty. Change the number and picking
new numbers. Four fifty. As it turns out, this particular
case is in fact one hundred percent correct. But the
argument is for the four to fifty you get thirty
four chips? Is thirty four chips a scoop at thirteen
cents a chip? How big of the chips?

Speaker 23 (01:08:22):
Thirteen cents of chip is too much? It's way too much.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
So you want more chips?

Speaker 23 (01:08:28):
I want more chips.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
Fish and chip chips term are the same size. Universally,
they're fish and chip chips unless you know they're not.
There's there's different there's different links.

Speaker 26 (01:08:35):
You get your big chips, your middle chips, and your.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
Little you know, the crunchy well, the crunchy bits there.
It's a scoop mate and they come out with the
crunchy bits and the big bits and the whole thing.
So it's a scoop of chips. It's like one scoop fourfer. Hey,
I'm just digging into the data. I'm just thinking. I'm
just thinking. It still seems to me to be reasonable money.
Although quote unquote from this particular person in mung A Fi,
I thought it was shocking.

Speaker 24 (01:08:57):
Well they would know because they obviously a regular and
would not a consumer of scoops of hot chips.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
Scoopa chips.

Speaker 23 (01:09:04):
Whereas you don't really have a leg to stand on.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
I've got no link to stand on. I have no
idea hot chips. But Sammy and I were talking about
this earlier on this morning. Sammy claims to be health driven,
and yet this is a guy who not only eats
fish and chips, he does his chips be a bettered.

Speaker 23 (01:09:20):
Yeah, but that's balance and out.

Speaker 26 (01:09:24):
But we hang on, he are you saying he puts
better on the chips.

Speaker 3 (01:09:27):
Be a better on the chips, be a better on
the chip, be a better on the chip.

Speaker 25 (01:09:32):
Oh my, this guy's this guy's he should be on
Stantons exactly. It's the whole thing is outragelt is ridiculous
and I haven't got it in front of me, But
they did the price of a piece of fish and
chips was what do we say it was? It was
eight bucks or nine eight dollars? Is the average price
of a piece of fish and chips? Eight dollars? I

(01:09:53):
would argue, is bordering on a bargain, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
No, that's brilliant, that's good stuff. Depends on the No,
it's not snappy katy, and it's not.

Speaker 23 (01:10:02):
You shouldn't be having it. I mean it would just
be some old bit of shark or something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:10:07):
It'll be a bit of what was it? I was
going to say, it's heck away, but it's not that.
That's not a fish that's hard. Now it's not Black Friday?
Do you realize?

Speaker 23 (01:10:26):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (01:10:27):
When is Black Friday? Tim? Uh, it's is it next week?
That's one that that is one hundred percent, it's two
hundred you're a two hundred percent. Everything you've said this
morning on the show Tim is completely accurate. It's not bad. Congratulations.
If you started Christmas shopping maybe I think my wife

(01:10:52):
has my wife? Is your tree up? No, because trees
go up at Advent, well winds Advent. That's next Sunday.
Is that Cyber Monday is Advent the day after Cyber
Monday or before travel Tuesday.

Speaker 25 (01:11:07):
No, no events, the initiation of Christmas from according to
the calendar of the Blessed Mother Church.

Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
Okay, because I was watching Brett Bear earlier this week.
Your trees up, isn't it? Yeah, Well, the cheap one is.
The cheaper nasty one is. But it has the advantage.

Speaker 23 (01:11:26):
It's got a lot of glittering lights.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
It's got the advantage is is it's a one stop.
Does it smell of plastic? It's so much plastic.

Speaker 24 (01:11:33):
I am concerned it will blow up at some point though,
because I do run the lights virtually twenty four so.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
Many years, and we had that, We had that three
or four years.

Speaker 23 (01:11:39):
Now longer than that, and the lights probably.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
Did we pay more than four dollars for it?

Speaker 23 (01:11:46):
Yeah, we paid a lot more than four dollars for it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
How much do we pay for that more than a
Scoopa chips? Okay, so more than four dollars because I'm
thinking bang for buck. Say what you want about plastic
in China that, in terms of bang for buck is
getting cheaper every year and probably extremely good value for money.

Speaker 24 (01:12:02):
I might try to select Friday sales just to really
rip your nighty.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
Okay, well what you should do?

Speaker 25 (01:12:08):
Okay, wait until after Christmas, so go to the boxing
day sale when they absolutely that's when we.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
Got our tree Christmas that was made in China. No,
don't laugh, Katie, don't like that. That that sounds like
an elitist, condescending laugh when he's handing up proper sensible advice.

Speaker 23 (01:12:24):
The best day Christmas tree on box.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
Best day, best day to buy Christmas crackers is December
twenty six. Yeah, absolutely, you're onto it. Ma. No't worries
at all. Nice to see you guys. You have a
good week, hend We'll see you next Friday.

Speaker 23 (01:12:38):
I don't know that we added anything to work. There's
a segment. I don't think we added anything, so I
just apologize to the audience.

Speaker 3 (01:12:47):
I'll apologize to Okay, Well, I felt it was no
different from every other single week.

Speaker 11 (01:12:51):
So so really we need more of an apology.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
Well we need a bigger apology or we're hitting our
KPIs and doing it exactly what we're supposed to be doing.
That's if we have KP Guys eight twenty two.

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So be quick Chemists Warehouse, Black Friday offering Sunday, December one.
Hurry and store or on linstock pain too much at
Chema's Warehouse. Paski hoky is the cheap fish's thinking on
Mike's right. It's not hick or it's hoky. Of course
it does. Mike Friday School Lunch nineteen seventy fish you're
a hot dog and Scooper chips thirteen cents eight days. Mike. Recently,
I had fish and chips on the wharf at Monganue.

(01:14:14):
A lot of people are talking about Manganui. Fish was
sixteen dollars a piece, but a you paid for it.
You see, there's no point going, oh my god, it
was sixteen dollars a bit. You paid for it. Paid
thirty three dollars for a small scoop and a small
piece of snapper in pie here last week reminds me
of that time we did the oyster and everyone just
upped everybody on the cost of an oyster and by
the time we got to the end of the program

(01:14:35):
we paid eight hundred dollars in oister somewhere anyway, News
for you in a couple of moments, and Murray Olds
is across the Tasman Here at news Hawks, there'd.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
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Speaker 3 (01:14:57):
I no longer buy chips from the fish and chip shop.
I'd rather spend four fifty on a kilo of frozen
chips and put them in the year fryer. I still
get my wantons and stuff from them. Mike paid twenty
dollars for fish and chips and Brisbane thirteen for the fish,
seven for the Scooper chips. Well, there's another reason you
don't want to go to Australia, twenty three minutes away
from nine.

Speaker 17 (01:15:16):
International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of mind
for New Zealand business.

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
Murray, how are you?

Speaker 18 (01:15:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:15:23):
Very nice fish and chips at the Corso and Manly
ten dollars fifty will get your lovely bit of battered
fish and a handful of chips.

Speaker 3 (01:15:29):
Very now, now, when we say, because there is a Facebook
scrap going on this morning, four fifty for a scoop
of chips and you get it's thirteen cents of chips.
So you don't get many.

Speaker 13 (01:15:38):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 9 (01:15:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
And so when you say fish, what do you put?
What sort of fish do you get in Autralia? Because
you don't get snapper? Which is the fish you want?

Speaker 13 (01:15:46):
Well, it's hidden under batter It could be anything. It
could be a gum boot.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
I don't know.

Speaker 13 (01:15:50):
It just takes quite nice when you've had a vber's
mystery fish.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
On a serious note, this and you know, well Ellen
Jones and it's where we were talking with Steve Price
earlier on this week. So we came up with Ellen
Bond and probably Rolf Harris. Rolf Harris. If it turns
ugly for Allen in court, it would be right up
there in terms of downfalls, wouldn't it.

Speaker 13 (01:16:12):
Well indeed, I mean Allan Jones. I've worked with Allan
on for three decades and he was the most powerful
media guy in the land. The Prime Minister's picked up
the phone whenever they saw it was Jones's number, no
doubt about that. On both sides of the vertical isisle.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
He had immense power.

Speaker 13 (01:16:30):
And I've seen him in a room full of business
people opening their wallets and writing out massive checks for
kids with disabilities. But then you'll go and you know,
allegedly go and scream at someone because he's a cup
of tea isn't warm enough. So he's a very complex fellow,
and he's facing very very serious charges. I mean one
of the indecent aggravated indecent assault allegations and that's proven.

(01:16:50):
It carries a seven year jail term and the guy
who's eighty three years old in pretty frail health. But
it's extremely serious. I mean, this was a nine month
investigation and he's now facing twenty six charges, nine alleged
victims more possibly according to very senior police to come forward.
He goes to court here in Sydney the week before Christmas.

(01:17:14):
This can be spun out too over many years, Mike,
because he's got very deep pockets and can afford the
very best legal representation in the land. He's also got
plenty of support. James Packer came out this week and
said Alan Jones a friend of mine and titleption the
presumption of innocence. Peter Kredlin Tony Abbotts X, chief of staff, said, well,
you know, it's completely out of character with the fellow

(01:17:35):
I've known for all these years. And Tina McQueen, bizarrely,
she's the former Liberal Party vice president over here. She
apparently used, according to The City Morning hero an encryptid
social media chat room to say this is absolute bs.
It's disgraced of what they're doing to Alan. So that's
from Tina McQueen, who is clearly not quite well.

Speaker 3 (01:17:58):
She wasn't merrill argu at the time, is mine?

Speaker 13 (01:18:02):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
There we go my understanding. He said, it's extremely serious.
I see a little bit careful here. But part of
the issue that I'm fascinated with the legal process is
you're dealing with some very old, chronologically allegations and in
those sort of cases, evidence and whether it still stands.
And he said, and she said, and I was, no,
I wasn't. I don't remember. You're trying to piece together

(01:18:25):
something quite complicated, and what happens if they can't do it.
I mean, you don't lay charges. The idea, you don't
lay charges unless you think you can get them across
the line.

Speaker 13 (01:18:35):
Oh, I understand. And that's the very very point that
has been condemned by his legal representatives at this stage.
Because the new South Wales Police Commissioner, Karen Webb came
out when mister Jones was arrested last Monday. She was
involved in a stand up down near Wollongong and said
to camera listen, when I was an investigating officer, I
was able to get a conviction dating back thirty five

(01:18:58):
years on a very similar matter. Of course, his legal
representatives went crazy about this. How can you say that
it's terrible? You know, it's prejudicial to our clients, chances
of affair trial, all this sort of stuff. But the
police made the point nothing will stop an historic allegation
being thoroughly investigated and type of relegation.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
But the other thing that I think is legal team
pointed out was he was not given the opportunity to
present himself to the police station and surrender. It was
with the hello, other cameras, ready here he comes. And
there was a little bit of that about it as well.
So it's going to be interesting to see how it's
handled in courtoral will shorten, what do you make of
him in totality given he walked out yesterday, gave his valedictory.

Speaker 13 (01:19:39):
Intriguing a fellow, no doubt about it. I mean he
made his name. He came to national prominence member as
the boss of the Australian Workers' Union. Those two fellows
were trapped for a week or ten days or whatever
it was teep underground in a mine in Tasmania and
Bill Shorten, as the young fresh faced union leader, dominated
the headlines for weeks. He translated that into career in

(01:20:00):
Federal Parliament. In federal Parliament for seventeen years, he took
Australia Labor. I beg your pardon, that were devastating smash
up election loss in twenty nineteen. Somehow found time to
marry the daughter of the Governor General of Australia. And
now he's off to a million dollar job as vice
chancellor of Camberra University. So look, he's a man of
a mensability. He said. It is valedictory that the decision

(01:20:26):
to take on the portfolio as Minister for Disabilities, he said,
you know, it's one of the highlights of his whole
life and he's done a hell of a job and
it's extremely difficult portfolio. I mean, at least now people
living with disability here in Australia have got a funding
model that will help them to get on with their
lives as best. Whatever a normal life looks like for
someone of the cerebral palsy or some of the disability,

(01:20:49):
the funding's there thanks to Shorten. So that's a marvelous
legacy I think, Mike.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
I will never forget the shot Saturday morning, is walking
towards the polling booth and he he didn't say it,
but he wanted to, and he had that look on
his face. I am so in here, I cannot believe
my luck. And I'm just gonna pop in and just
add another vote to my victorious campaign to become Prime

(01:21:14):
Minister of Australia. And later on that night, when Scott
Morrison had done all that campaigning in Queensland, as whole
world just completely nutterly fell apart. Oh no kidding, it
was devastating, amazing. This I don't know, but have you
been to Laos?

Speaker 13 (01:21:29):
I've not been to Laos?

Speaker 3 (01:21:30):
No, yeah, I can't work out where you go unless
you want to get pissed on cheap cocktails. I mean,
this is a dreadful thing. But I mean I was
looking at some film at the place yesterday and what
are you doing there? Are you just there drinking essentially,
don't you? Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:21:43):
I mean, look, there are kids up there backpacking through Asia.
The police apparently aren't sure. Is this like bootleg liquor?
Or is it bootleg liquor made with methanol that's been
added to a bottler gen or a bottle of brandy.
You're right, it's not. You know, it's not the five
stuff that you and I are used to when we
travel the world. You know, these are young children, their

(01:22:05):
first big trip away from home, and you know, tragically,
this little nineteen year old girl from Melbourne has lost
a live mom and dad had to turn her life
support off. Another her best friend of the world played
football weather wedding school with her. As she is fighting
for a live down in Bangkok and hospital there and
her family's with her. It's just dreadful. You know, how

(01:22:27):
do you stop kids having this adventure? I mean, are
you going to keep them in cotton Fall?

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
We can't. Can The flip side of that is that
the sort of country that's going to hold anybody to
account and you suspect.

Speaker 13 (01:22:37):
Not well, you suspect not exactly right made.

Speaker 3 (01:22:40):
It's dreadful, it's shocking these student numbers. Know. I like this.
This goes once again to how effective the coalition is
so Labor and I thought this was a dreadful mistake
from the start. Yes, I get the immigrations and issue.
Yes I get the immigrations connected to housing and jobs,
understand all of that. What I also understand is that
international education is an extremely valuable commodity for Australia and
if you say go to university, sorry, you can't bring

(01:23:01):
people in anymore, you've immediately curtailed their bottom line. And
it was a stupid policy. And thank god it's going
to be flipped.

Speaker 13 (01:23:10):
Well, that's if Peter Dutton gets up. I mean, Peter Dutton, don't.
I mean, he isn't doing this for any altruistic reason.
He's doing this to create a bloody great big cricket
back to Belt Labor over the head going into the
next election. That's what this is about. I mean, the
fact of the matter is we had half a million
students here only a minute ago. Labor proposed cutting it

(01:23:30):
back to a quarter million, and Peter Dutton was on
site a minute ago and now he's saying no, no, no,
not enough work done here. It's going to impact too
many regional universities. And that's a very valid point. The
regional unions we have Woollongong, Newcastle and the like are saying, listen,
it's okay for Sydney Union to get half of the
Sydney Union population. MIC students come from overseas and they

(01:23:51):
are paying three times, four times for their medical degrees
for their engineering degrees. Then Australian students, these kids coming
from Asia are an absolute gold mine. But there's got
to be at some point their political response is to
let's wind them back because all the headlines are about housing,
congestion on the roads, housing, you can't get a house,

(01:24:11):
blah blah blah, the list goes on. So what Peter
Dutton's done pretty cleverly, I think, is wedge labor and say,
you know, watch this space. We're going to have a
much better policy in time for the next election.

Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
You're a good bloke. Scene Next Friday Mate Previous Michael
Chim Murray Old's in Australia thirteen.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
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Speaker 3 (01:24:32):
At B eleven Away from nine. Aspect to the text
earlier on about medical schools recruiting and training very elite people,
which isn't true, the pathways into medical school have been
an eye opener for me because obviously the most famous
one is Maury. So if you've got a Murray pathway
and you don't have to get the same sort of
score to get in to medical school in general in
this country you need a sort of a health signed
number of ninety something high nineties, ninety five, ninety six,

(01:24:54):
something like that. If you're Marriot's I think from memory
it's in the low seventies. But there are pathways forc
there are pathways for refugees, there are pathways for rural people,
there are pathways for people from deprived backgrounds, the disabled pathways.
So to say that all of those people are elite
simply isn't true. As regards training them into something, you're
not trained into anything. And one of the things I've

(01:25:16):
been really impressed with with my daughter is the amount
of immersion that you spend in hospitals and being posted
out around the countryside doing all sorts of different things.
And different areas of medicine. You go into a GP's office,
you go into a rural GP's office, you go into
a psych ward, yes, spend time and surgery, and you
do these what they call runs, and the runs last

(01:25:36):
for several weeks. So by the time you get to
year six, you've been in every aspect of the health system,
not in theory, not in a bit of paper, but
in the hospital, in the clinic, and you've got a
feel for what's actually going on. And once you get
to year six, you're basically a doctor and you're in
the hospital pretty much full time. And that's the downside
of it. The downside of it is, in theory, you

(01:25:57):
should be surrounded by very senior medico's who you know
support you along the way. But given the state of
the health system, essentially you're running the place, which is
not what you want. But nevertheless you can't say it
isn't hands on. The reason we don't end up with
a lot of gps is what I've said before, and
I got into a lot of trouble for saying it.
I believe that being a GP is boring at and
if you're in the world of medicine, the things you

(01:26:19):
can do are astonishing, and one of them is not
dealing with Doris who's got a sore throat. And so
that's why you don't have a lot of GPS, because
it's not one of those things that's a life calling.
And if it is a life calling, after about year five,
you suddenly think, I would quite like to work two
days a week, please, because this is not what I
thought it was in the first place.

Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
Ate away from nine the my costume breakfast with.

Speaker 3 (01:26:45):
You've been flying in America, you'll know that they bored
you in groups, and when you get your boarding past
they say, you know, it's got group two, group three, whatever.
And depending on where on the plane you are, they
bored you at different times. Anyway, So the latest bit
of technology is in American airlines and it's a new
system that will beep if you jump the queue because
frequent fliers, of course get the opportunity to get on early.
And the big fight in America is you've got to

(01:27:06):
put your bags, and people carry more bags and they
can carry on the plane. So if you last on
the plane, they take your bag off you and stick
it under it and send it to Dallas, and you're
going to New York. So if you jump the queue
and a lot of people try to do now, it's
going to beep and everyone's going to look at you go.
They're going to say in that very American sort of way,

(01:27:26):
five minutes away from.

Speaker 17 (01:27:27):
Nine trending now with Yemi swaarenolse stop paying too.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
Much or if you're in Texas, they'll probably just shoot you.
So car News boy, I didn't get to the EV
business miss and Lotus BMW. I'll do it Monday. But anyway,
Car News Jaguar's rebranding and this has got a lot
of people talking all over the world. They've got rid
of the leaper, the Jaguar symbol, got a couple of
j's now and they released an ad and people are

(01:27:53):
going off about that. But then we've got a Volvo
ad as well, three minute ad pushing the theme of
a family and a family vehicle messive production to some support.
They will promote the safety get the new Volvo EX ninety.
So is that an evble It is, But it took
took the Fox people a little bit of time to
catch on to that.

Speaker 24 (01:28:12):
They're showing I guess the traditional family mom, dad, kids.

Speaker 14 (01:28:18):
We eventually have advertisements.

Speaker 16 (01:28:19):
Right, is I'm supposed to look at this, relate to it,
and then want to buy the product because there's something
in there that speaks to me. So if I'm sitting
at home, probably I don't know what they're saying.

Speaker 26 (01:28:28):
So is there a car?

Speaker 3 (01:28:29):
Guy? Love with this ad? But if in like two
seconds they show me a beautiful looking car, then I
will say, well done, Volval. But come on, guys, get
to the car. I'm looking for a car here.

Speaker 23 (01:28:41):
I want a car with a bed a red ribbon.

Speaker 26 (01:28:43):
In life, didn't get the car.

Speaker 20 (01:28:47):
There is no car with a ribbon on It means
you've made it in life's.

Speaker 1 (01:28:51):
Walking down the street that there you go? Is that
a Volvo?

Speaker 26 (01:28:54):
Okay?

Speaker 16 (01:28:54):
But it looks electric though.

Speaker 3 (01:28:55):
Because at least it's a car, it looks electric. It
is electric. Las Vegas. This weekend, speaking of your cars
are going to be cold. It's going to be at night,
Sunday night. Our time the race because it's ten o'clock
on Saturday night in Vegas. Because that's what you want
to do in Vegas on Saturday night. You want to
have a car race. So Lillam's back. This is the

(01:29:15):
third last of the season, a couple of races in
the Middle East of course, so well that'll be exciting,
and we got Sunday morning for the rugby as well,
so it's going to be an awesome weekend. Look forward
to your company on Monday, as always, though, Happy Days.

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