Full Show Podcast: 25 October 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Togs headb Morning and welcome today. More good news for
the economy this time hung Key, we fruit the Finance
Minister on our social investment plans. Turns out Pete petrol
is not next year, it's years away. Stacey Jones on
the League timicated to the Wick, Mitch McCann's and the
State's Wust Murray Olds Out of Australia Pasky Friday morning,
seven past six. So if you're looking for cogent arguments
then there was no shortage of them from the banks

(00:33):
this week in front of the Parliamentary Committee looking into
banking Now. They're doing this because the government's decided banks
need some kind of reform. There is not enough competition
apparently what they plan to do about it, we don't know,
but it's the same argument around Telco's petrol supermarket's airlines.
Are particular concern to the government is the way the
farmers are being treated now. There is dispute within the

(00:54):
banking community Kiwibank, Heartland SBSTBS. Also, it's not fair, The
regulation's troublesome. The playing field is not flat. The bigger
players say things are fine. Of course they would say that,
wouldn't they. But between them, and if you want to
add the non bank lenders, there seem to me to
be no shortage of options for the farmer to deal
with banks. The defense is that farm lending is tough work,

(01:15):
and as tough work because lending money to farmers carries risk.
Returns from rural lending isn't as high as city lending.
The complain about farmers having higher rates is because a
lot of farms operate on flexible rates, not fixed rates.
All the banks talked to their market share. No one
bank dominates. A number of banks have grown their books.
None of this is to defend the banks at the
expense of the farmer. It is just to say there

(01:37):
doesn't appear to be one side overtly more right than
the other. The A and Z boss this week more
broadly defended her bank's profits. She was on a hiding
to nothing. Of course, she too has cogent arguments made sense.
Put up a good explanation as to how banks work
and what sort of return they need. It will make
no difference, which is the problem. It's the big problem

(01:58):
where you are. In this case, the government have with
me big business. There must be a lack of competition. Profits,
the argument goes, are too high, without of course anyone
to finding what exactly is an acceptable profit. So we
will need rules and threats and the Commerce Commission. But
I'll tell you this for nothing. None of it's going
to change because my very broad conclusion from all of

(02:19):
these industries is we have an imperfect market based partially
but in no small part, on the fact we're a tiny,
isolated country at the bottom of the world with five
million people. We think we should do or get better
than we do, and by being hoodwind into that sort
of thinking, someone must be a robber baron. They aren't,
but it makes us feel better.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
News of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
I wanted to see in Nntown Hall of Calmly yesterday.
I hope you didn't, because it's time you'll never get back,
and it shows you why she's losing.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Do you think Donald Trump is a fascist? Yes? I do, Yes,
I do.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Donald Trump said, why ess actually, why aren't my generals
like those of Hitler.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Do you believe Donan Trump is anti Semitic?

Speaker 4 (03:03):
I believe Donald Trump is a danger.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
As the BBC pointed out, how did she go from
joy to that? Anyway? You know what Trump thought?

Speaker 5 (03:11):
These people are crude, rude and vicious.

Speaker 6 (03:16):
She's got no intelligence, She's got nothing, She's got nothing.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Meantime, the Bricks meetings wrapping up, and perhaps surprisingly one
of the atends turns out to be a mister a good.
Terrorists of New York.

Speaker 7 (03:27):
We need Pias in Gaza with an immediate ceas fires.
We need piecing Lebanon with an immediate cessation of hostilities.

Speaker 8 (03:37):
We need peace in Ukraine just piece in line.

Speaker 7 (03:40):
With you and Charter. We need to peace in Suran.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
But apart from that, everything's going fine. And Britain Chancellor
Rachel Reeves has her budget this coming Wednesday. She's clean
been on the phone to Grant robertson.

Speaker 9 (03:50):
The first the stability rule that day to day spending
will be funded through taxa seats. That's something the previous
government never achieved. The second rule will be the investment rule,
which would be to get debt down as a share
of GDP.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
But that's not the crush of it. I'll come back
to that. The lit By case seems to have no end.
The baby killers appealed and lost. Whether there are or
maybe issues arising from the first charm which have yet
to be the subject of judicial consideration, is not for
us to say. That would be speculative and from the
well of forecasters. More doom this morning, as we're all
going to fry.

Speaker 10 (04:24):
The countries that are still growing their emissions, like China,
Saudi Arabia, India, Indonesia, Vietnam are doing so much faster
than countries like our own, and other developed countries are
seeing their emissions peak and begin to very slowly fall.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Finally, South Korea has an issue with what they call
good OSCA, or lonely deaths. Thousands, mostly men, die every
year and their bodies aren't found for a week. So
the government has announced they will spend over half a
billion in the next five years to turn Soul into
a city where no one is lonely now. The money
will be spent on twenty four to seven hotlines, online
platform staff or in person visits for those who say

(04:59):
they're lonely. Green Space's meal plans for the middle aged
and the elderly, the New City Search Team and activities
such as book clubs and Garding Calanders News the world
in ninety seconds. Bank of Canada, Real News, This morning's
Justin Trudeau is in serious trouble. But I'll come back
to that. But the Bank of Canada's gone fifty points.
They're down to three point seventy five on the cash rape.

(05:20):
It is twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
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Speaker 2 (05:30):
Ev Unbelievably, these idiots at Boeing, with their thirty five
percent pay rise, have voted to reject it. Thirty five percent,
seven thousand dollars ratification bonus increased four to oh one case.
They've already announced their laying seventeen thousand of them off.
The thing's been going for weeks. They have a vote
and they say no, thank you. Fifteen past six, sixteen

(05:57):
thousand cyber trucks. Seems like it's all of cyber The
result generally is pretty good, wasn't it. Yeah, that was
pretty good.

Speaker 11 (06:03):
So the cyber trucks actually now the third best selling
vehicle in the US by and the Model three Model
WI and it's profitables that's good news.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
But yeah, the shares had an absolute.

Speaker 11 (06:10):
Stormer overnight mike up eighteen percent. It was the best
day in three years. So they actually missed in terms
of topline revenues, but beat on bottom line and more importantly,
gave a really strong growth forecast. What Eland did. Revenue
is up eight percent in the quarter of twenty five
point two billion, then then come up seventeen percent to
two point two billion to be fair though, Yeah, regulatory

(06:31):
or emission revenue, it was a big part of it.
That was seven forty millions. That's where it earns it
from up. Automatic makers are own as environmentally friendly, so
you look at auto revenues that actually only grew two
percent twenty billion for sixty three thousand deliveries. It's been
pretty flat since late twenty twenty two. Obviously, there's a
lot of competitions, so you've got growth coming from energy generation,
storage revenue and warranty repairs of tars of vehicles. Even so,

(06:55):
the growth outlook was very encouraging, so he muskra cans
will be twenty to thirty percent growth in vehicle delivery
next year due to lower cost vehicles, which is confident
of delivering that model in twenty twenty five and the
event of autonomy, the market had expected deliveries to rise
fifteen percent around two millions. It's double that and that's
really what god investors excited on the self driving robotechs.
He reckons there'll be two million of cyber caves a

(07:17):
year eventually with the wait and see. He's not known
for sticking to his time frames, but hey, more potential
good news for investors as well, Mike, he promised sharholds
he would make Tessa the most valuable company in the world.
A bit of a way to go at this point,
it's about two point seven trillion dollars behind Apple.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
But when did the facts get in the way? Up
a good story? Now ups? What did they have to say?

Speaker 11 (07:39):
Hey, there are some good numbers as well. So she
is up nearly five percent. First quarterly sales and earnings
grow for nearly two years past. Industry has been under
pressure since those pandemics obviously had cost of living pressures,
people switching and customers switching to cheaper options. But yeah,
I've seen this pick up, and it's also probably to
do with the economy turning a corner. Inflation ees and conference.

(08:00):
It's improving. Volumes rose six and a half percent. Air
cargo did well. Also, it's getting a helping hand from
Timu and those sort of discount as they're using its
network and utilizing its cheapy shore post option. Revenue of
the quarter that exceeded in the expectations two two point
two billion, they said at ninety one point one billion
in the in the in the full year, you talk
about Boeing and ways. So UPS has also seen wage

(08:20):
costs rise, but it's looking to show up the bottom
line by actually cutting staff some twelve thousand management jobs,
so they'll say about a billion. They didn't come up
thirty five percent one point five billion. Good sign around
the consume. Mic fedix she is also high. Also good
news for American airlines. They raise their profit forecast. Now
they've been trying to sell direct to customers and that's
been an absolute disaster, so they've had to go back
to the tried and true travel agent model that's proven successful.

(08:43):
Revenue at one point two percent thirteen point seven billion,
a loss of one four nine million, and just to
give you an idea of how costly it's been, Delta
and United made almost a billion dollars this quarter, she
is slightly lower.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
Well, what do we make of what Adrian said? And
I like to comments, interestingly enough about whether the market's
going at the moment. It's a little bit specular. But
the seventy five point cut, what do you reckon?

Speaker 11 (09:04):
Yeah, I reckon it's getting a little bit closer. So
he didn't give too much away there. But look, he
said inflation was effectively beaten. It was a good news.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
He kept.

Speaker 11 (09:11):
He used a seafarer's analogy all the way through. One
of his speeches said Montrey policy was akin to ocean circumnavigation.
It's good to see acknowledge that New Zeanders had not
had a fun ride. That's a bit of an understatement,
he said. Did say it was important to avoid a
downturn or an inflationy spiral and to stay afloat. But
I think one could argue Mike looking at some of
the data where many parts of the economy already submerged.

(09:33):
So he said, the key question is how long it
takes for inflation pressures to disiplate completely. To talk about
overpriced stock market, so I thought that was interesting. He
did so also talk about the rise of protectionism and
how that could be bad for New Zealand with trying
to our largest customer. But look in terms of where
rates are going, he said it was credible to have
the perspective of rates becoming less restrictive. Or I said
that was a recent phenomenon. Asked whether I thought this

(09:55):
was interesting, Asked whether the point five percent rate cut
was a jumbo move, he said it was actually relative
to where you are. Of course, the apenz was pretty aggressive,
wasn't there? So he said there's more rate cuts ahead.
He acknowledged that. And this is the other point. I
acknowledge that Munchi Possey operates for one to two year
leg The neutral rate is becoming more appropriate all the
aben Z says this is three point eight percent. We're

(10:16):
almost a one percent above that now. So he using
his analogy, might you know, we're in stormy waters already,
so they shouldn't it be all hands on deck point
seventy five percent rate cat next time?

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Yes, you're the man for point seventy five. I see you,
I hear you. We should point out that Adrian was
doing all this in Washington. Of course, one are the numbers.

Speaker 11 (10:33):
There, so step back that was weighed by ib IBM
actually but down half percent four two three one four
s and P five hundred up point one percent. There's
Deck up point five percent, foot Sea up point one percent.
Barclays had a good day on their results, Nickey at
point one percent, six two hundred down point one percent,
INSIDEX fifty up point two percent, twelve eighty one four
in fort all that hit an all time high. Good

(10:54):
news there going up adding bucks two seven three three
and outs oil down seventy seven cent seventy dollars even
per barrel currencies were even against the US sixty point
zero a dollar ninety point six slightly up and stealing
forty six point four down point two percent.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Good on you, mate, you have a good weekend. Catch
up next week. Preciate it very much. Greg Smith, Devon
Funds Management, Pasky k Heinex. You probably never heard of them,
doesn't really matter. The only point is they too, are
into AI. Their operating profit just for one quarter third
quarter was nine billion dollars. Their South Korean they make chips.
They're a big customer of Nvidia, and the rest is
asas history six twenty one here at news talk SETB as.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
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Speaker 2 (11:45):
B Wait till Starlink gets its gear into every mobile,
it'll be a trillion dollar company. Ben, I'm a customer
of Starlink. I think Starlink's brilliant. What he does with
rockets I think is brilliant as well. It's the cars
that have always bring the problem. But I think what
he might find with starlink is the same problem he
found with cars. When he had the idea with cars,
he was ahead of the curve. He just didn't execute. Hence,

(12:08):
he's never really been what he should have been in cars,
and it may well be the same with Starlink once
the competition comes to down. Anyway, be that as made.
Rachel Reeves, by the way, just quickly the reference I
made earlier. She's literally been on the phone of Grant Robinson.
It seems like labour parties all over the world do
the same thing. She has confirmed she intends to change
the country's fiscal rules for the budget, so that's designed
to free up billions of pounds. She will tweak the

(12:29):
way the UK debt is measured. Now, where have you
heard that particular trick before six twenty five.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
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Sports and Nutritia.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Two new polls in the US ray shortly. But one
of the talking points around this all is it's no
longer about policy, of course, it's just about baking each
other in personal attacks. So Crewe, for one of the
late night television shows, went to a political rally. Here's
what they captured.

Speaker 8 (12:54):
Do you think American should ban fracking?

Speaker 4 (12:56):
No?

Speaker 3 (12:57):
You don't.

Speaker 8 (12:58):
Do you feel strongly about fracking?

Speaker 3 (13:00):
That's a good question.

Speaker 8 (13:02):
Not to drill this point home, But people that are
involved in fracking, what are they doing?

Speaker 3 (13:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 8 (13:08):
Do you think Trump er Harris would be better for
the GDP?

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Well, Trump's going to be better at anything than her.

Speaker 8 (13:13):
She can't even speak in terms of the GDP. Do
you think she has an understanding of what it is?
Do you think she could even define it?

Speaker 3 (13:19):
Probably not.

Speaker 8 (13:20):
Can you do you believe the deep state needs to
be stopped?

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Deep state? Yeah? But how do you do it? Who knows?

Speaker 8 (13:29):
What is the deep state?

Speaker 3 (13:31):
A good question? Do you know what? I don't know.
I've never met him yet. They're real secret into some bitches.

Speaker 8 (13:37):
Do you think we should ban a dei?

Speaker 3 (13:39):
I think so.

Speaker 8 (13:40):
For people that don't understand what is.

Speaker 12 (13:42):
Dei, well they need to really dig in and find
out what it is. Everybody knows everybody's hamburgers, but nobody
knows where the meat is coming from.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
So find out what you eat.

Speaker 8 (13:56):
It's caps and that's what the DEI is exactly exact.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Oh, you can't make this stuff up. The Harris thing
will come back to because I did watch it yesterday.
It was if you ever want, and honestly, I come
to this completely and partially I couldn't care less who wins.
It's an interesting race. Observing from the other side of
the world's fascinating. But she is useless.

Speaker 7 (14:21):
Well, why doesn't she do any homework before these things?
It's like she's completely unprepared for all the questions.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
I don't know that she's unprepared. I just know that
she doesn't appear to be able to articulate what she
wants to say, or she doesn't know what she wants
to say.

Speaker 7 (14:32):
He asked her if she thinks Trump is a dictator,
and then her response is like she's never even concerned
exactly before.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
And I felt sorry for the guy. Guys stood up
and said, price of groceries is really high? What are
you going to do about it? That's all he asked,
What are you going to do about? Eighteen minutes later,
we didn't. We weren't any wiser.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
Now.

Speaker 2 (14:48):
This is why during that particular event, the Wallstreet Journal
poll came out forty seven forty five to trump. The
CNBC poll out this morning forty eight forty six to trump.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
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Speaker 2 (15:13):
All difference Canada. A moment ago, Trudeau's got real trouble.
It may come to nothing because he's got a caucus,
as they say, at the moment of one hundred and
sixty something, I can't remember it in about twenty of
them aren't happy anyway. So he's been given an ultimatum
and a closed door meeting, and he's got to decide
by early next week if he wants to stay on
as leader or face the prospects of a revolt. There

(15:35):
are twenty MP's behind. There's none of them cabinet members
they've called on him to quit. A couple of dozen
also signed a letter. Got to make his decision by
next Tuesday. Sorry, one hundred and fifty three Liberal members
of Parliament, so he's got one hundred and fifty three.
About twenty aren't happy. So it may or may not
come to anything. But he's in his ninth year. He's
fantastically unpopular. CBC poll track has got the Conservatives the

(15:57):
opposition to do ound the world currently with the twenty
point lead. So we'll see what happens over the weekend
twenty three to seven.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
When the jam's doing the.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Business from the States this morning, all the poles, all
the action from the campaign trail. Meantime back here, more
good news for our economy. Been a record season as
it turns out for Kiwi fruit. Not quite over, but
it's coming to an end. One hundred and ninety million trays,
six hundred and eighty four thousand tons have been exported
to fifty different markets. Final shipments of the green and
the sun Gold they're off in the coming weeks now.
The CEO, Jason Debraca, is well, this Jason, very good

(16:25):
morning to you.

Speaker 13 (16:27):
Monnie White, how are you very well?

Speaker 2 (16:28):
Indeed you're new to this particular job. You're loving it, Yeah,
I am.

Speaker 13 (16:32):
Actually it's going well in the season's tracking pretty well
as well, so about three months into the role, but
being more excessed through about four years.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Fantastic sixty two charter vessels tell me the shipping story,
how successful, how unincumbered are we shipping wise these days.

Speaker 13 (16:48):
So we've got a pretty strong charter program. So we
do about half of our fruit on charter vessels, and
it actually helps us get fruit to the market quickly,
helps us reliability to supply and actually our customers get
us through strong feedback. It's one of our main points
of difference.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Good so we don't have supply chain issues. As they say, they've.

Speaker 13 (17:07):
Resolved themselves quite a lot from a couple of years ago.
Still some challenges around some of the sports here, but
that's most to do with the line of vessels coming.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
In China up forty percent. Are they back?

Speaker 13 (17:20):
China's economy is still a little bit sluggish. What we've
found is we've been able to outperform the category and
outperform the economy quite well. Just good strong brand and
good quality fruit into the market and good demands for
Kiwi fruit.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
Okay, the big important question now is the zig. Yes,
the vote. You're going to have a vote, and you've
had a vote before. For people who don't follow this,
you had a vote before in the grays Wooden back here.
Will they this time?

Speaker 3 (17:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (17:47):
I believe we will. We're only putting it full because
we've got really strong confidence that the support we've had
over the last three to four months has been really good,
so we believe that we can get across the line
on this. We've had really good engagement with the industry
for a good three or four months now and they've
been part of actually designing the proposal, so we feel
confident that there's good support. There's the press forward.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
If you're right, what's changed between this vote and the
last one.

Speaker 13 (18:14):
There's actually quite a few things. You know. We've been
able to focus really strongly back on our New Zealand
business and getting good returns through our New Zealand Girls
the last two seasons, so girls are comfortable for that.
But we've also changed the proposal and how we've gone
through that so that girls have been actually at the
center of the discussions, been involved in designing the proposal
and had really good feedback was this where along the way,

(18:35):
so it's a bit more of a collaborative process has
been through this time.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Good to explain to people who don't follow, there's four
hundred and twenty additional hectares of sun gold across Italy, Frances, Japan,
South Korea in Greece. Does that solve our problem in
the year round thing and all the cheeks out there
trying to rip us off?

Speaker 13 (18:53):
It helps what we've got At the moments, we're up
against the full limit that we can plant based on
what we've currently got approved. So for us to continue
to compete in our off season, we need to be
able to continue to quite more addles that production. So
it does help us in that regard.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
You've got a vibe for twenty five or we don't know, look.

Speaker 13 (19:13):
Looking pretty positive to twenty five, so we think the
crop might be up slightly, so a bit more fruit
to sell. But the market especially finishing really strongly at
the moment, working strong six or seven weeks, so usually
when you see a good end of the season, it
can flow into a good beginning as well. So I'm
quite optimistic at the stage.

Speaker 2 (19:30):
Fantastic good on you and I to talk to you
appreciate it very much. A Jason de Branca, who's the
new Ish head of or CEO of Zesprie good news
for the economy nineteen to two skin speaking of which
was I'm pretty sure it was this time yesterday. We're
talking about this farm to forest conversion thing. And one
of the problems is that the beef and lamb people
get a bit upset because there's tens of thousands of
hectores going into forestry and they're going, well, what happens

(19:53):
to the productive land? And of course we're sort of
standing by for the government to do something about it
because they want to implement a policy. We're just saying, well,
what is the policy. Well, yesterday I find out the
Simon Watts is the Climate Change Minister, along of course
with the Trade Minister. They went in June to cabinet
covered brief and Cabinet paper seeking approval to consult on

(20:14):
managing farm conversions to exotic forestry. Second received. Second briefing
paper received June twenty. So here we are in October November.
This was back in June. Nothing happened. Tom McClay the
Trade Minister, they're sort of gone nowhere the action plan
for the final quarter. That's the promise final quarter being
now here. There's going to be an announcement before the
end of the year, but they think at this particular

(20:35):
point it's a bit tricky, so they seemingly treading water.
So we stand by eighteen minutes away from seven.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
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Speaker 2 (20:48):
Actually speaking of the New Zealand economy. Very good bit
of reading in one roof this morning. The housing market,
as I predicted, is back, and by Christmas time we'll
be we'll be laughing. Residential property investors, they're out of hibernation.
According to the stants this morning, one point four billion
they borrowed from banks at September. Is that a lot, Yes,
it is. It's the largest sum for a month since
November twenty one, which was when the market was booming.

(21:12):
It's five percent more in September than in August, but
it's fifty four percent more than in September last year,
So the investors are back.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Six forty five International correspondence with ends at Eye Insurance
Feace of mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
We'manding the business in the States match.

Speaker 13 (21:28):
How are you?

Speaker 7 (21:29):
I'm well, Mike, how are you?

Speaker 2 (21:30):
I'm very well. Indeed, where are you?

Speaker 14 (21:32):
I am in New York, New York the Empire state
right now.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Fantastic And is the revive on the street if I
go down, you know, the upper East side of people
talking about it? Are they fizziting? Are they excited about
all this or not yet?

Speaker 14 (21:44):
I think from a lot of Americans that I speak do,
they are concerned and they are anxious at which way
this is going to go. Some American friends really don't
want to talk about it, but it's kind of the
elephant in the room right now with only twelve days away.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
Okay, so we've got a couple of polls out this morning.
We've got the WSJ one and we've got the CNBC one.
There's a theme here in Trump's winning.

Speaker 14 (22:02):
Yeah, that's right. These are significant because if these are
the first polls in the last couple of weeks where
Donald Trump has edged ahead by a couple of points.
So if we look at the Wall Street Journal one,
Trump is ahead forty eight to forty six against Kamala Harris.
When the Wall Street Journal last conducted this poll in August,
it was Harris, who was ahead by two points, and
the journal kind of has this theory as to why

(22:23):
Donald Trump is taking over. They believe that his negative
ad campaigns, which by the way, everywhere, are working, and
they possibly believe because of all the media appearances she's
doing there having a couple of shaky interview answers. I
know last night she was on CNN as part of
this town hall David Axelrod, who is of course Obama's

(22:43):
former campaign manager. He described one of her answers as
a word salad. And this is one of the themes
that's kind of coming out from all these interviews she's
trying to do at the moment. So at the moment,
in some of these polls, Trump is ahead, but as
you know, Mike, national polls don't really matter. It comes
down to the battleground states where they are pretty much tired.
I know that Harris is ahead in around four battleground states,

(23:04):
maybe Trump Boy three, but they are all within the
margin of era.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
I think the problem they got much. I don't know
if you saw the scene anything yesterday, but I did.
It's the more you see of her, the more troubled
you become. Some guy stands up in the audience and
he literally asked them, the price of groceries too high?
What are you going to do about it? First of all,
she didn't answer it. She moved on to property development,
then she moved on to storm damage, and it took
minute after minute after minute, and at no point did
she say, I'll tell you one anther And that's her problem.

(23:28):
She doesn't say anything.

Speaker 14 (23:31):
Yeah, I think she has an issue with trying to
do so many interviews so people know her get to
know her better, which is a problem for her. But then,
as you say, the more she does, the more she
might get tangled in some of these answers and people
get sick to see more of what they don't like.
But rest assured, Mike, for those Kamala Harris fans, she's
rolling out the big guns in the next couple of days.

(23:51):
She's holding a rally today with Barack Obama and Bruce Springsteen,
who has endorsed her, and then tomorrow it's reported she's
going to rally with Beyonce Noles who might be singing
we don't know, and Willie Nelson and Houston. So the
A lists lives coming out for Kamala.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Ah I love it. Now, what person in their right
mind turns down thirty five percent.

Speaker 14 (24:15):
Yeah, it's a lot of money, but they want forty percent.
This is in relation to Boeing, who, as we know,
it's been a disastrous well, it's been a disastrous year,
not just a couple of years. In January, of course,
a piece of fuselage blew out of an Alaskan Airlines
flight Mike, and then a plane had to turn around
and land in Japan after a crack was found in
the cockpit window. Sheer price has taken a hit at

(24:35):
CEO is left and Boeing workers have been on strike
since the thirteenth of September here in the US, demanding
higher wages and better benefits. Now, hours after the company
announced a six point one billion dollar loss, union workers,
more than thirty thousand of them, have rejected this pay
increase of more than thirty five percent. So it's back
to the drawing board for Boeing. As well as that loss,

(24:57):
it looks like they're going to have to fork out
a lot of money for these wages when they finally
come to an agreement.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
You go, well make good to catch up preciate it,
which we can in New York the real telltale sign
yesterday out of that town hall because it was on CNN.
They had one of those massive CNN panels that only
CNN can do with about eight hundred and three people
on board. Is even they and they love Harris more
than any other network. Even they had to admit that
what she was saying made literally no sense half the time.

(25:24):
And then you're going to ask the question, if you
turn up with Bruce Springsteen and Beyonce and Willie Nelson,
as much as you love their music and we do,
does that make you vote for her? What does that
make you look desperate? Ten away from seven the.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
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Speaker 2 (25:40):
Back to Elon Musk, who's million dollars a day thing.
He didn't pay yesterday and I don't think he paid
the day before. He paid for a couple of days,
and he hasn't paid for a couple which indicates that
the DOJ which has got to him and indicated that
when you hand out money in return for voting, it's
a data mining exercise. Because of course they argue that
all you have to do is sign a petition. But
the problem with the petition when you sign, I got
a list dur of our personal information, which then means

(26:02):
the Trump camp can can come after you. So the
DOJ's decided that's probably a bit dodge, So that'll come
to an end. But if you want a million dollars,
you want a million dollars. One of the sadest articles
I read yesterday was in the Sydney Morning Herald. It
was a piece that came out, I think originally of
the New York Times, but it was a piece on
Jamie Diamond. Jamie Diamond is one of the most influential bankers,
certainly in America and if not the world, and he

(26:23):
seemed to suggest earlier on this year he started praising
Donald Trump, and no, because he's a famous Democrat, no
one could work out why suddenly praising Donald Trump, and
then speculations increasing in private, of course he loves Harris
because he's a Democrat, and in private also he wants
a job with a Harris campaign, and Treasury Secretary might
be a job that he'd be interested in, all of

(26:43):
which is fine. But the article concluded, from talking to
people who know him, that the reason he started talking
publicly about Trump. Is afraid of Trump and he doesn't
want to be on the wrong side of things, so
he loves Harris, but he speaks openly about Trump just
to hedge his bets. If there's one thing I was
very critical of people in this country during the COVID campaign.
If you're in a position of some influence, and he

(27:05):
undoubtedly is, be true to yourself, be honest about if
you like her, say you like Harris, if you like Trump,
so you like Trump, but don't hit your bets just
so you can have a job and then not get
punished by somebody else at the end of the day.
All that does is make you spinalless and a scaredy cat,
and I think less of you five minutes away from seven.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
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Speaker 2 (27:30):
I told you about Rachel and her chancellor's job and
the budget next week in Britain and how she's fiddling
with the numbers at the moment. The other problem they've
got is indust real action. So let me give you
just a small taste of how many people are on
strike about to go and strike could go and strike
have been on strike in Britain at the moment. Railway staff,
of course, they're permanently on strike, senior doctors, junior doctors, nurses, teachers,

(27:51):
NHS consultants, university staff, customer service managers for the underground
or a security staff, civil servants, aviation staff, although either
been on currently on strike. Now to help them out
in comes Sikia Stamer, who loves the unions, loves a
good strike. They're considering giving workers twice as long to strike.
So under the current legislation, if workers vote to strike,
the mandate expires after six months and then the union

(28:13):
have to go back to the workers and ask for
another vote. So Labour want to give them a year
to be able to strike now. Very likely is the argument.
They're saying. Look the unions when they go back for
a second vote for a second mandate, mainly they get
a second vote. So let's save on the admin. Let's
save on the cost of having a second fut and
just skip that. The Tories, they say, while considering over

(28:35):
the last two years, what's the official data show will
The official data shows that walkouts have resulted in more
than five point seven million working days lost which is
the highest number of thirty years. Starmer also want to
get rid of the fifty percent rule where you need
fifty percent of a workforce voting years to go on strike,
as well as removing the forty percent rule for the
NHS staff, which reminded me, of course of Jim Bolger,

(28:56):
remember Jim Bolger in this country under the previous labor government,
they very very smartly hired Jimbolgerratry to have a look
into how you should go on striking this country. That's
all about the fair wages, and his conclusion was except
by the government, not surprisingly and overturned by this new government.
Thank god, that if you had ten percent of people
in the workplace that wanted to strike, the ninety percent
didn't count. And if they wanted fair pay, and it

(29:20):
went across all the industries, didn't matter whether you're running
a little business and then the cargo or in Auckland
or anywhere in between. You just had to adhere to
the new rules. Anyway, thank god that's over, but Britain
still wading their way through that's mess. Actually, by the way,
Starmer doesn't want to talk about slavery and reparations at Chogham.
Unfortunately a lot of people in the Pacific Islands do

(29:42):
and so there is a move a foot apparently over
the next couple of days that's going to become a
major issue, much to his shud Win. Nikola Willis, Finance
Minister and Social Investment, What exactly is all this?

Speaker 1 (29:57):
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Speaker 2 (30:06):
B blenty seven past seven. So the Finance minister looking
to overhaul the social services spaces we told you yesterday.
More focus on outcomes, not outputs. Less corror cross contamination
when it comes to multiple agencies doing multiple things and
no one seemingly knowing what's going on, and the idea
that performance pay in the public sector could be back anyway.
Social Investment Minister Nicola Willis is in charge of all
of this and is with us. Very good morning to.

Speaker 15 (30:25):
You, Good morning Marte.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
To my eye, it's got a slightly wooly sort of feel.
I mean, what is social investment and this is Cost's
job eventually, what specifically is it and what changes?

Speaker 15 (30:36):
Well you think about basic concept everyone in New Zealand degrees.
Let's not have an ambulance at the bottom of the cliffs.
Let's build the fence. It's a bit tricky when you
have to work out, well, where should we build the fence,
who are the people who need defences, who's good at
building fences, and how do we check the fences are working.
That's what social investment's about. It's about proper prevention and

(31:00):
proper early intervention so that people don't go on to
lead life of crime, welfare, dependency, under achievement. And we
know that there are some things in communities that do
work off and they're delivered by very grassroots organizations, by EWE,
by non government organizations, by social organizations. But what government
tends to do is go off and fund literally thousands

(31:22):
of different contracts across the country feel really good because
it's funded them, and they never check in to see
which ones are working and which ones should we be
scaling up to. The Social investment is about cleaning all
of that up and being much more purposeful about what
we invest in and whether it's working.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
The cross department stuff. Do you have any idea how
bad that is, how big it is, therefore, how much
you can save and how much more efficient you can
be specifically.

Speaker 15 (31:48):
Yeah, well, look, as I said, more than eighteen thousand
contracts Mike. And so there are multiple non government providers
who are working with vulnerable New Zealanders who will have
more than upwards of thirty different contracts. So piecemeal little contracts,
a little contract year if we've got a family violent prevention,
a little contract year to prevent children going into stake year,

(32:11):
contract year to help with children with mental distress, multiple contracts,
and then those will come from multiple departments, so they
might be six or seven different agencies involved. So they're
spending hours filling informs, reporting, doing all of this administrative
bureaucracy stuff. And my view is, look, if they're approven, provider,

(32:32):
tell them what they want to achieve, measure it. If
they're achieving it, we keep funding them. If they're not
achieving it, then we've got to make a change.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Does something to do with the mindset of the public service.
Because I've followed Labor with interest, They've been asking Karen Shaw,
particularly about Orangatamriki and she was arguing, look, there's a
whole bunch of providers there that have money in the
bank and never provided any service. Labor never seemed to
get their head around the idea that if you're not
spending your money, you're not doing your job. Just in
simple terms, Why is that level of thinking prevalent in Wellington?

(33:01):
What's gone wrong there? Everyone else in the real world
talks about how it comes not just handing out contracts.
Why is it so weird where you are well?

Speaker 15 (33:10):
I call it the easy complacency of good intention, and
it's about that saying of, well, look we're funding five
different programs to prevent family violence. So it doesn't that
feel good? And it feels great to say, look, we're
putting all this money in. But my view is trying
hard is not good enough. Actually you have to go
a step further and say, okay, well we had a

(33:31):
good intention, but is it working? And that question is
very challenging because if you're a government agency and it
turns out the thing you've been funding is a bit hopeless,
maybe the next step is to say, let's stop it,
and so look at I wouldn't just blame public servants.
I've blame politicians too, because politician we love announcing things
and saying, look how lovely we are and how caring

(33:53):
we are. It's a bit hard a year or too
late to say well, we're going to have to stop that,
and that social investment is the introducing some rigor to
all of that, being much more purposeful and frankly taking
power away from government agencies and all of the buacracy
that comes with it and putting it down on the
grapp glass roots with the people and communities who actually

(34:13):
know what's going on.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Appreciate your time as always, Nicola Willi's Finance Social Services Minister,
speaking of which eleven past, seven past another day, another
report from an onwardsman who highlights issues that are rung
a tomriki. So they failed to investigate reports of violence
and assault against pre and primary school children. There were
nine reports, seven different parties. Co founder of the Great
Potentials Foundation, Dame Leslie Maxis back Leslie, morning to you,

(34:35):
Good morning mate. This seems systemic. There seems that nobody
seems to be able to turn around. Ot can they
do you hold out any hope at all or not?

Speaker 16 (34:45):
Well?

Speaker 5 (34:46):
Look, I know that they have a minister who is
very intent on doing that, and she has that prize,
a prize characteristic of lived experience. She knows she knows
what it's like to be a child in the system,
so I think she's highly motivated. It is a big
ship and it does something very well. Look this morning,

(35:10):
I've just been looking at their their Family Start directions
manual Family Started, something that I was instrumental in introducing,
along with Brainwhere Trust and others years ago, and it
was for prevention and intervention of family violence, of violence

(35:35):
against children, maltreatment, and gosh, it's a wonderful manual. But
I don't know how it's all working. This is what
I don't know. And I don't know the extent.

Speaker 13 (35:47):
To which.

Speaker 5 (35:49):
There was any connection between Family Start and those scores
of tortured and murder babies and small children that I
have in my files makes horrendous reading. So I don't know, Mike.

(36:09):
All I know is it must be better than this,
And i'd say that, you know, it's striking that there
were nine reports of concern when in so many cases
there are no reports of concerns, but nine, you think.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Would so somebody somewhere would see or do or say something.

Speaker 5 (36:33):
You would you would think, so you would think. So, Look,
the incidence of child abuse and neglect has not gone
down and you know, you would think that it would have,
but the police data shows that the number of children
under fifteen reported as being victims of violent crime grew

(36:57):
forty one percent between in the five years to twenty
twenty three. I mean, that is that is huge. And
I noticed one thing from the material that I collect
is that it's not only stepfathers these days who are

(37:18):
prominent in this field, but fathers and the inability to
deal with babies and babies crying, and this is so fundamental.
You know, our kids go through god knows how many
years of compulsory education come out at the other end

(37:41):
with no knowledge whatsoever of how to be a parent,
which most of them will be.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
I think there is a flaw there in America Jesus
to say the least, Leslie, listen, appreciate your time down
Leslie Max. It seems we've got no further ahead. We
had a mass report recently into treatment and care and
we thought, oh, that was in the seventies. It wasn't
it bad that it was in the seventies. There we
are in twenty twenty four and we don't seem to
have got any further. We also have news this morning

(38:10):
that petrel is not running out the way we thought
it would in terms of demand. We'll come back to
that in just a couple of moments. Fifteen past seven The.

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Speaker 2 (38:23):
B Stacy Jones in the League for your shortly seventeen
past seven. Turns out we haven't reached peak petrol channel
infrastructure formerly refined New Zealand. Of course, now forecasting twenty
thirty as opposed to next year is a likely peak point.
They're also looking at what they're calling an energy precinct
to Marsden point. Are the boss, Rob you Cannon back
with us? Rob, morning to.

Speaker 13 (38:40):
You, Good morning Mike.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
The peak forecasting, how much of that's just throw a
dart at to board versus science.

Speaker 6 (38:47):
Well, we're a long term infrastructure company, so one of
the things that we need to do is continually produce
long term outlocks for fuel use in New Zealand. So
to ground ourselves, we have about New Zealand's transport fuels
come through our terminal system and about eighty percent of
New Zealand's jet fuel. The outlook that you're referring to

(39:08):
is a twenty five year outlook. So the one thing
we know is that in twenty five years it'll be wrong.
But it's about as good as we can get in
terms of making those assumptions and outloos today.

Speaker 2 (39:18):
I take it is all to do. The reason it's
peak twenty thirty is because the economy slowed down. We
don't buy as much and we're not buying as many
evs because we're carried away and that in reality didn't
turn out to be what we thought it would be.

Speaker 6 (39:30):
Yes, the colored drivers there. So one is we've got
an expectation of continuing growth. Is we see that recovery
of long will travel post COVID. But I think what
you're referring to there around evs is right. So the
government removed the clean car discount. We also saw post
COVID a permanent reduction in vehicle vehicle plumpers traveled, the

(39:54):
video conferencing and those types of things. But I think
we've also seen a pretty dramatic reduction and the registration
of evs now that they compete like for like with
internal combustion engines.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Right, I read to report this week. You can help
me out because I didn't understand it. The biggest influx
of LNG suppliers coming. This is globally. It'll transform the
global market, bringing about wider implications and previous expansions. Do
you see that as being true as that happening.

Speaker 6 (40:22):
Well, New Zealand doesn't have an led G inport terminal
at no point.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
But we got excited a couple of months ago though, didn't.

Speaker 6 (40:28):
We Well, I think that was off the back of
a pretty challenging period the electricity set sector went through
shortage of gas, therefore shortage of electricity, therefore very high
electricity prices. So there's certainly been some discussions about an
LNG import terminal. I think the challenges that are very
expensive to build, own and operate, so we need to

(40:49):
need to make sure we look at all options and
forer energy security.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
Good insight. Rob, have a good week and I appreciate
it very much.

Speaker 13 (40:54):
Rob.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
You can in Channel Infrastructure CEO. Yes, so they're going
to the expansion. This is LNG is like to lead
to a state of over supply by the end of
twenty six which will remain until twenty thirty, prices possibly
moving below double digits. Interesting thing about that is, of
course the government will wetting their pants with excitement over
the importation of L and G. You remember all of that,
Then suddenly crickets chirping, And yet next winter, next winter,

(41:15):
they've already said, we're in trouble. So what's happening? Hey,
what's happening? Seven twenty one.

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Time now to mark the week the little piece of
news and current events. It's more enticing than a small

(42:32):
wine tasting. After telling somebody to we f off Andrew
Bailey two.

Speaker 7 (42:36):
I had a small wine tasting.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
Inexplicable behavior we still don't really know the details of it,
also hopelessly explain, thus dragging it out. The PM three
wat wat you go on shelf mide and a moderate
bit a mess that he then made worse by making
a meal of it, thus dragging it out. Darlene Tanna
one a person who should never have found a way
to a House of Representatives anywhere. The Greens three almost

(43:00):
though they took lessons from Luxan on how to handle
a bit of mess, thus dragging it out the America's
Cup seven. Why wouldn't you believe Ainsley a the greatest
team ever? Liam Lawson nine of just advoo in one
of the world's most significant and influential sports, but a
day boot that had everyone mesmerized. Next up Mexic are

(43:20):
the White Ferns eight World Champs, case closed, Katsu Chicken
eight Victory of the week in many respects, a problem addressed, solved,
money saved and the critics essentially silenced Wellington six because,
in a small way the boil on the incompetence that
was at least partially lanced with the commissioner being appointed.

(43:43):
Are the Common Games three It's got staggering on its
last legs, vibes, doesn't really ten events, last minute city
and a world where sport is booming. This isn't Uber
six coming to a whole bunch of newtowns and regional
musaland look, anyone expanding their business at the moment is
to be embraced and encouraged. As far as I'm concerned.
Are the king Aka for a lo loc and cancer treatment?

(44:05):
That was a good looking tour and some very big crowds,
and I think it shut the Republicans up. Missus Sinwar one.
If you didn't see it, Yaya's wife was photographed in
a tunnel in Gaza with a burken bag. And if
that doesn't tell you all you need to know about
her mask, nothing does long weekends seven help yourself. I mean,
it's what all those who negotiated a four day week

(44:25):
feel like every week, and that's the week copies on
the website. It turns out, by the way, if you
take two and a half of these and you dissolve
them in hot water and add them to the Westmere
Butchery's pork and leak sausage, it tastes even better. Husking Mike,
forget everything, let's talk laws and wats your prediction for
the weekend? Yea, it's an interesting prediction. He'll do well.
Sophomore though, sophomore performance, sophomore album. You're so hyped in

(44:46):
the opening, you're wetting your pants with excitement, you drive
out of your skin. Then you're thinking, hello, I'm quite good,
and then suddenly it's not quite as good the second
time out. I hope he's hope he's better than that.
I think he's better than that, but it's all to
play for. He's been on the track. Remember last time
he was on the track, he had a free practice
in Verstappens car and he had to pull over because
the brakes were on fire. So he's been there before.

(45:08):
So every expectation that we are onto something quite big.
And of course the talking point out of the week
in to one to watch out for is Pererez going
to be jettisoned out of the seat post Mexico speaking
of sport Stacy Jones and the league in christ Church.
More shortly after the News which is next to news
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Speaker 2 (45:36):
Had been continuing the conversation Mike Lawson will be in
the points. I hope you're right. I mean he was
in the points at the back of the field, so
lord knows what he can do if he qualifies well,
and do remember and qualifying Q one he got the
third best time. In fact, if he that time, by
the way, ultimately if he had gone through to Q three,
let's not bore you with the details, but if he'd
gone through that time would have put him seventh on

(45:58):
the grid. So if he had started seventh, imagine what
he could have done. Mike hawksby anniversary day today much
needed a few days off of the land workers having
a brilliant spring. Good orchards and vineyards are in great shape, Paul,
I share with you the happy days, Mike. So you,
like the rest of the MSM, think that the pathetic
Andrew Bailey story is more important than Chippy lying about

(46:19):
Hasha Buryl's distant relative, and that Peter's concerns are irrelevant. Well, Dina,
let me come back to you in a moment. Twenty
three to eight, Tim and Cody arfter right now, along
with the supercars on the Gold Coast and the equine
in Mexico, we got the League. Of course in Christ
you its Kiwis faced the Kangaroos. Last time we played
the Kangaroos pants them thirty mil Our team's got five

(46:40):
first timers and an old guy called Johnson. Who would
have thought Coach Stacy Jones is back with a Stacey
morning to you.

Speaker 17 (46:46):
Yeah, good morning, Mike.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
You're feeling good. Have you got the side together and
they look good over the shortened period of time that
you get to mold them.

Speaker 13 (46:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (46:54):
Look, as each day goes, the preparation picks up another
level and it's about to making sure that we're connected
closely as a group. So I felt, well that had
prep so far. We've got one more training run tomorrow,
our captain's running. Yeah, and then game Sunday.

Speaker 2 (47:10):
Does the weather bother? You see tomorrow for the captain's
run supposed to pour, but by game day it's it's
going to be sunny.

Speaker 17 (47:17):
Oh look, captain's run for these fairly short and sharps,
So yeah, we've got to get a little bit wet.
We get a little bit wet, so yeah, and if
the sun's out on Sunday, it'll make for a good,
good game of foot.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
Team open day was good that there's a crowd there
isn't there people that's to sell out the game itself.
So so there's a good vibe about this.

Speaker 17 (47:36):
Oh it's been amazing. What the height the support that
they've got for this game. And you know, two world
class teams you know performing and the girls too, they're
going to be a massive game for them too. So
the support here has been outstanding for everyone.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Now talk to me about Sean. Had he let himself
go and he hit the Beers poster's retirement, did you
have the whip them in shape?

Speaker 17 (48:02):
Yeah? Well he went into holiday mo for a bit there.
But obviously with the injuries we've had, we've had to
call some some players in and you know, with Jerom
Hughes being out the daily and winner a huge loss
for us. But Sean answered a call and we're very

(48:22):
thankful that he's he's going to be a part.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Of this school and the experience. You can't you can't
overvalue the experience, can you.

Speaker 3 (48:28):
Oh?

Speaker 17 (48:28):
You know, he he knows his role and the role
that he'll play. He's very good at. So yeah, we're
very thankful that he's that he's going to be being
playing for us.

Speaker 2 (48:37):
Tell us this guy Warbrook and I don't know, and
so he plays a f L, he plays sevens now,
he plays league? Is he like a freak?

Speaker 13 (48:47):
He is.

Speaker 17 (48:49):
He's a big boy. He's been in a system that's
really developed his game, you know, in the Melbourne Storm
system where you know they took their time with him
and developing him. He had had a year and reserve
grade and got a bit of football last year and
he just came on this year, so you know, very
well deserved to be a part of the Kiwis.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
And what about you, Stacy, are feeling a bit of
pressure given you're a bit newish to the job and
all that sort of stuff is there? You know?

Speaker 17 (49:15):
Yeah, Look, there's always pressure in these positions, but I
don't feel as always with prepped well and done the
best weekend. I feel no confident that, you know, we
can put together a performance. You know, I've got a
really good, good group of people around me and the
other coaching staff and our trainers, and then I've got
a really good leadership group led by our captain James

(49:36):
sher Harris. So I feel comfortable with what we've got there.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
You go, go well, mate, We'll be watching appreciated Stacy Jones,
the Keywis coach with us this morning, nineteen minutes away
from it. You miss the same thing about I don't
know what you're talking about the MSM and whether I
think it's more or less important. I wouldn't have a
clue what you're talking about. The Bailey story I got
thoroughly and I said so on the program yesterday. By Friday,
I was officially sick and tired of it, although I
noted the Labour Party tried to prosecute it even further

(50:03):
in question time yesterday and got basically nowhere, I think,
And I was talking to somebody about it, and I
think their dissertation might have been right, essentially, And this
goes back to Lucksom. Essentially, Luckson's forget the politics. Essentially
he's a nice guy. Andrew Bailey is essentially a nice guy.
Torris traditionally aren't scrappers. They don't quite get this rg

(50:25):
bargie backstabbing business of politics, and so they don't explain
themselves well. And so what you had was, I think,
at the end of the day, an unfortunate set of circumstances,
and Bailey should never have done what he did, but
it got blown hopelessly out of proportion by the lack
of political management because Luckxin's useless at this stuff, and

(50:45):
if he had just put it out, put the fire
out from the start, he would have solved themselves a
day's worth of coverage. Then you get to the business
of Peter's that was a joke. So yes, Chippy misled
us a distant relative versus a close relative. The woman
concerned is the sister in law that I think irrefutably

(51:08):
is a close relative, not a distant relative. There was
a conflict of interest that should have been declared. The
Ministry didn't declare the conflict of interest. Both stories, though,
Can I just try and explain one more time? Both stories,
to my eye fall into the Beltwagh category, and that
is yeah, they're probably worth covering if you insist. But honestly,

(51:28):
given all that we're facing in this country at the moment,
like the gargantuan mess that we're currently in, we spent
far too much time on the frippery and not enough
time on the serious stuff.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
Seventeen two Coo the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show podcast
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Speaker 2 (51:48):
It'd be fourteen away from ete. You probably already picked
it up. But I'm feeling pretty good today, better than normal,
and I normally feel pretty good. But because I did
the big test to check, so basically, how old you are,
And this is not numerically, this is just in general
health terms, and so what happens if you're over fifty?

(52:09):
You stand on one leg for a period of time,
and on the dominant and the non dominant leg. I'll
do it both sides. And if you can't do it
for a sustained period of time, you've got problems. They
don't necessarily tell you what the problems are individually, but
it's not a good sign.

Speaker 7 (52:24):
How long is the sustained period exactly.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Just just brace yourself and be patient. Glyn, we're coming
to that one. Don't rush the story. What I do
in the morning is I do forty seconds on one leg.
But my understanding is you've got to stick your leg
out in front of you. So what I do in
the morning, and this came from who's the guy who
tragically died in Greece on the holidays, Michael, give me
the guy, the health guy mostly, So his thing was,

(52:46):
you just lift one leg up for forty seconds and
you stand there and if you can do that, then
you're good and you run a lower risk of getting
Alzheimer's and demetra and stuff like that, and then you
do the other leg. So I do that every morning,
brushing my teeth, and so that's no particular problem for me.
This new test, and this is new research. It covers
your overall health system balance reflects how the body systems

(53:09):
are working together. So they did forty participants, all in
similarly good health with no neuromuscular disorders. The amount of
time one could hold one leg standing are declined at
the rate of two point two seconds per decade in
the non dominant side and one point seven seconds per
decade in the dominant side. And this was for both

(53:30):
men and women. So a good rule of thumb. And
this comes to the part you're asking about a moment ago, Glenn,
how long A good rule of thumb is to be
able to hold the stance for about thirty seconds or
longer for those sixty nine and younger, about twenty seconds
for those seventy to seventy nine, and ten seconds for

(53:52):
those older than eighty. So if you can do it
for more than thirty seconds, leg out in front, dominant
and non dominant, which, as it turns out, hence my
original statement that I'm feeling pretty good this morning. You're
in good health.

Speaker 7 (54:06):
Some dispute from some members of the production team about
the league in front.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Thing, Well, you don't think it's a league in front.

Speaker 7 (54:12):
He thinks it's sort of like a knee in front
and a foot behind.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Oh okay, you want to do it. They won't stand
there and keep you know, the flamingo side. So you're
hooking your You're hooking your foot behind your knee like
a flamingo, and that would indicate to me that that
assists your balance.

Speaker 7 (54:31):
So you're doing league in front.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
I just stuck my leg out in front while you're
brushing your teeth. No, well that's separate.

Speaker 7 (54:42):
The more interesting the story gets.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
No teeth brushing, I just lift my leg up.

Speaker 7 (54:47):
But I'm gonna say because the league in front, you're
a long way from the scene, and then you've got
toothpaste down your front, very old.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
And so leagan front for non tooth parts.

Speaker 7 (54:56):
That happens to me even when I'm not standing on.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
One leg, and I will either way in both positions.
I haven't done the flamingo though, Sam, And that's a
very interesting stance. But I'm confident, having stuck my leg
out in front for over thirty seconds, I could flamingo
it and do thirty seconds as well, so I think.
And what I did not to Sam is you stood
up for about three and a half seconds in set
back down again. I don't think I think Sam for
a very young man has some health issues here.

Speaker 7 (55:19):
We're gonna have to have a standoff exactly.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
He doesn't want to tell us about. Turn away from it.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Call the Mic Hosking breakfast with the range Rover.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Then news tog said, buh, you know what I like
about you, Mike. You not only give the punches out,
but you also can take them as well as taking
the piss out of yourself. That's a great place. Very
nice of you to say it more difficult. Have you
fallen over someone's just taxt it? It's much more difficult.
Have you fallen over you on the floor in pain?

(55:49):
It much more difficult. It's not that difficult. Where am I?

Speaker 13 (55:53):
Seven?

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Away from eight? Seems the vinyl revival is real? A
lot of noises past couple of years, as I'm sure
we're around vinyl records. Who's buying them? The fact they've
never died out now Gordon Stevenson runs NAPY is just
for the record business apparently is booming and Gordon's wether
it's mate, how are you?

Speaker 18 (56:10):
I'm extremely well, thank you?

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Good?

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Are you online or retail or both? We both okay?
And so how do you sell most of them? Is
it all online or people come in and have a
little flip through.

Speaker 18 (56:22):
Probably the majority is online, but we do a regional
around and we've actually got a store in our garage
at home, so it works quite nicely, thank you.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
And how many in the garage?

Speaker 13 (56:34):
Well about for thirty forty?

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Do they warp in the sun? Because mine warped. I
used to have a vinyl collection and it just the
whole thing warped, and I was heartbroken.

Speaker 18 (56:49):
I can understand that because they're very difficult to reap
it to perfects if they are warped. But yes they do.
We keep them out of the sun.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
Good stuff. What do you pay for a vinyl album
these days? Roughly?

Speaker 13 (57:00):
That varies.

Speaker 18 (57:00):
It's because the records aren't just records. There's various quality
of records. We start at realistically about fifty dollars and
go through about four hundred.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
See that's interesting, isn't it? Because fifties more than the
CD and it's certainly more expensive than streaming.

Speaker 18 (57:14):
Yes, and it sounds considerably better too.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (57:17):
So there's my great fascination, Gordon. When the CD came along,
as you'll well remember, the fixation was, ah, it's so
good that sound, and so we became fixated with the
quality of the sound. And yet when streaming came along,
no one seems to care about that anymore. And the
sound is crap.

Speaker 18 (57:31):
Oh grin Tyley, you know you can, you can losing
up to forty percent of the music. I can't see
the logic of that at all.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
But then again, the vinyl sound is different to a CD,
and could you argue not quite as good or would
we get into fistital.

Speaker 18 (57:45):
I think fistic caps are coming up very quickly. No,
vinyl sounds considerably better because digital scenario, we can't listen
to a digital signal, so it's got to be converted
from analog where we listen to it, then converted to
digital income then back to analog so we can hear it.
All those steps to degrade the music.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
Do you see an increasing variety of artists in vinyl nowadays?
Is that growing as well?

Speaker 13 (58:12):
Dramatically good?

Speaker 18 (58:14):
I mean, to be honest, there's very few artists that
aren't on vinyl. I mean, for example, yesterday or today
we're releasing Pat Freddy's dropped new album. But then the
other interesting, of course, is on the other end of
the scale. We've got The Animals with the Animals, which
is celebrating the sixtieth anniversary, has just been released on

(58:34):
yellow vinyl.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
No Way, and of course you need a turntable, Yes,
we do. Can you get turntables easily?

Speaker 18 (58:42):
Very easily?

Speaker 3 (58:42):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (58:43):
Last time I looked at it was sort of they
had one or two and they were a bit cool
but trendy, and I thought quite expensive.

Speaker 18 (58:49):
Well realistically, I mean I was in a Harvey Normand
yesterday and I was totally devastated because they had two
absolutely rubbish turntables. You go to a specialists. There's lots
and lots of good quality products around, and some of
them are reasonable. I think you can spend a lot
of money on the turntable as same as you can
spend a lot of money on a CD player.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
I guess. So what do you pay for a turntable? Roughly?

Speaker 18 (59:11):
Oh, realistically, yeah, I think can have half decent about
one thousand dollars upwards. There's not a lot of money today,
there's twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Oh god, but there you go, Gordon. You tell jeez,
I thought we're in the cost of living crisis. But
my apologies, it's not alike. Gordon says, and Gordon must be.

Speaker 7 (59:27):
Right, paying fifty backs for a year records.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Fifty record, one thousand for your turntable. Then you need
another record.

Speaker 7 (59:33):
Spotify subscriptions starting to sound pretty damn reasonable.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Then you need two records, and that's one hundred dollars.
And after a while you get sick of that. You
need three records. But you can't beat the vinyl. That
part is through news for you in a couple of moments.
Then we'll do the week with two and K. You're
a newstalk zb.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
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Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
You please advise the name of the company the man
selling the vinyl? Just for the record, is the name
of the company, just for the record, this is on vinyl.
Can you hear the difference? I can, Mike, you'll also
need speakers, big bucks for the good ones. That's true. Actually,
Brett's very good points. Why I ask myself whether I

(01:00:28):
can continue doing this job for much longer because I
forget a lot of the detail. That there's some critical part.
Remember the days when there were, well, when records were
a big deal, you also had the big thick cables.
Remember you had to have a big thick cable from
the turntable to the speaker, and the thicker the cable,
the cooler it was.

Speaker 7 (01:00:43):
Well, of course it didn't go straight to the speak.
Go into your head unit first, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
You had a whole room, didn't You had to have
a whole room. And if you had a sound room,
you were like the coolest cat and town shut up,
Sam MOUSEI the Dreams of the Mother's Mother quite a
good name for an album. Although is this an album?
I think it's an EP. Isn't it really to be? Frank,

(01:01:10):
I'll come to that in just a moment. She's in
real life called Serena Close. She's from christ Church. The
album's out today right now from Winegum Records. It's her
third album. Is this the hypnotic focus track? He is, okay, Well,
this is the one that's sort of the big deal
of this one planned this was.

Speaker 7 (01:01:28):
I don't play the focus tracks. I like to focus
on the unfocused tracks.

Speaker 2 (01:01:31):
She's doing a tour and she's in christ Church in
the dark room. She's in Wellington at Moon and Katie.
She's an Auckland at Neck of the Woods tell us
about the Neck of the Woods twenty three and a
half and it's only eight tracks, so you know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
We can with two degrees bringing smart business solutions to
the table.

Speaker 16 (01:01:58):
Very important to give us that where you were nearly
a arrested, Katie, was that Neck of the Words?

Speaker 19 (01:02:02):
Is that good question to so many places of and
almost arrested? I can't remember. Okay, okay, possibly.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
But obviously the Neck of the Woods are still going. Hey, Katie, yes,
can't come in with coming with a hot boon or
a knife in the back of whatever it is you got.

Speaker 19 (01:02:16):
I wasn't going to do that. I was just wondering.

Speaker 20 (01:02:19):
Many of the audience, like me, were quickly standing on
one leg during your speech. Obviously not the people in cars,
but well you don't know thatybody else was immediately sticking
your leg up.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
Yeah. Well the problem is did you stick your leg
in front?

Speaker 13 (01:02:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Okay, because Sam did it like a pelican, and it's
clearly it's easier to do it like a pelican. But
I from the picture I saw in the story I saw,
it appeared that you had to stick it out in front.

Speaker 19 (01:02:46):
Yeah, but here's the thing, it's too easy so I reckon.
Surely you have to have.

Speaker 20 (01:02:50):
Your eyes closed because that is a challenge with balance.
People do that because acc Please do not fall.

Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
Please, Can we do a public health barning regards cutting
the balancing exercise? It has to be done with your
eyes closed? Lorraine texted that, No, it doesn't. That's the
point the test they did. It doesn't have to do
with your eyes closed, because it isn't.

Speaker 16 (01:03:10):
But yeah, because your balance is you're receiving visual feedback
that helps. That's that's part of the data for your balance.
So if you're closing off that, then you're not doing
it properly.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
I would argue, if you can go longer than thirty
seconds were on one leg dominant and not dominant with
your eyes closed, you're a freak and it's not actually possible.

Speaker 19 (01:03:31):
Yeah, now of course going to try it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
Did you go, min I've doing the what was that?

Speaker 20 (01:03:37):
Sorry?

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Did you go more than thirty seconds with.

Speaker 19 (01:03:40):
My eyes closed?

Speaker 2 (01:03:42):
No?

Speaker 19 (01:03:42):
Did you shut it with my eye closed? But it's
too easy to do it with your eyes open? Yeah,
way more than thirty seconds, I mean, I can just
it's just tedious.

Speaker 16 (01:03:50):
I've I've been doing the flamingos since I've been doing
the flamingo since we started this segment.

Speaker 19 (01:03:55):
I mean, I'm on one leg third so here I am.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Did you hear Mark Mitchell tim this week on Politics
Wednesday his claim of thirty press ups.

Speaker 16 (01:04:05):
I did not hear that, but thirty Yeah, well there's
nothing well that the police minister should be doing a
hundred a day. Well, I know ad a day.

Speaker 2 (01:04:19):
Yeah, well of course you do. But you don't look
like you're a wiry.

Speaker 19 (01:04:21):
We thing you're a wiry, you're a wiry.

Speaker 7 (01:04:24):
We don't start.

Speaker 16 (01:04:25):
Don't start skinny shaming me, all right, I won't have it.

Speaker 19 (01:04:28):
No, No, you're busy, you're running around after kids.

Speaker 20 (01:04:31):
You go go go, you know, not saying Mark's not go,
go go, but he just.

Speaker 19 (01:04:35):
Probably moves at a slightly slow pace than you do.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
I saw him on the news last night and he
was running up a mountain in Gisbon and he barely
got up the mountain. In fact, when I say a mountain,
it was a slight slope and he was he was
blowing like there was no tomorrow. There was a there
was a fitness issue at play.

Speaker 16 (01:04:50):
There are you thinking, are you thinking maybe there's a
bit of a bit of over inflation at the thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
No, I think he's good for the thirty. I just
thought that, you know, I'd i'd like to see him
stand with one leg out in front sea. How long
you can do it? How old is Mark eighty?

Speaker 7 (01:05:06):
He?

Speaker 19 (01:05:08):
How old is he?

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Do you know?

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
I'm going to guess at fifty two?

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
Yeah, fifty four, he's fifty six.

Speaker 16 (01:05:16):
Hey, Mike, remember being fifty six?

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Good out at neck of the woods. No worries. How
many people are you? Are you at the office yet, Tim?

Speaker 6 (01:05:33):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
No, it today's work from home. Answer is my next question,
is anybody in this country actually at work today? And
given the answer is no, then we've got to stop
shaming schools on their teacher only days because we are
as bad as they are, because no one is here.

(01:05:53):
Everybody wants the Friday. I've emailed people today to solve
the many you know, the many crises I'm facing at
this company at the moment, and every single one of
them's come back to me with it. I'm on and
you'll leave until got.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
Out of office.

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Yeah, I'm out of office.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
Well, to be fair, I was.

Speaker 16 (01:06:10):
I did did an event yesterday, so I was up
quite early. So I'm taking I'm taking time and loo
when we bail.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Really my sixty six year old husband struggling to stand
on one leg. Now we're worried. Oh dear, Yeah, in
defensive mark. And it is true the minister had street
shoes on. That part is true. But as he said,
when you and it was an exercise and what to
do when an earthquake and a tsunami's coming, And as
he said, you're going to get caught, you got to

(01:06:37):
run for it. And if you happen to be in
a suit and works us, you got to run for it.
As simple as that.

Speaker 20 (01:06:41):
Well, got on him for even doing that. I mean,
he's a go getter, isn't he for doing it? Hey,
by the way, two months till Christmas.

Speaker 19 (01:06:47):
I just worked that out today. Can you believe that?

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
Well, giving us my twenty fifth of October, that would
be correct?

Speaker 19 (01:06:53):
That is where has this year gone? It is the
fastest year in the history of the world.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Don't you think it feels like that?

Speaker 16 (01:07:01):
I completely agree?

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Be it? So what was a random science fact segment? Now, Ei,
there's the fastest through the world.

Speaker 16 (01:07:09):
Okay, okay, so it's okay, what month do you identify
as you're not a fan of November, So what months
would you like to identify as to be more comfortable?

Speaker 19 (01:07:19):
Feeling some much, especially in Auckland feeling the vibes.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
Twenty three is the high today. You can't argue with that. Hey, listen,
hold on, You're fourteen past eight.

Speaker 1 (01:07:28):
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Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
It be seventeen past eight the week in Review with
two degrees fighting for fear for Kiwi Business. This is
this answers the question if you've got a strong and
stable plant offlection movement in your foot combined with strong
stable glutes, the sixty second single leg hold should be
a breeze. I think I think I'd agree with that.

Speaker 19 (01:07:54):
It's probably true.

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
Yeah, Mike Hobby drives and Milk Tanker is working all weekend.
A friend is a nurse, same deal.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:07:59):
That's keeps the country going because somebody else goes come
on like it's a long weekend, Friday's extra.

Speaker 3 (01:08:04):
I would just.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Say, Kate and I are all work, now, are we not?

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
Kate?

Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Is that we work the class. Don't pretend this isn't work.

Speaker 16 (01:08:14):
Don't tell that to Mark Mitchell and Jenny and Jenny Anderson.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
They're working this is. There's a whole chap from my
book dedicated this is. This has been a joke. Now
it's something like that. I'm at work today, Mike, thanks
for asking. I can do you thirty seconds with my
eyes closed. So Jamie is a hero. I stand on
one leg and swing the other backwards and forwards. I'm

(01:08:41):
seventy seven and can do it indefinitely. Actually, the swinging
makes it easier. I gotta say I'm doing it now.

Speaker 7 (01:08:51):
It's a lot easier when it's yeah, yeah.

Speaker 19 (01:08:55):
I'm doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Does so seventy seven or not? It becomes ted.

Speaker 13 (01:09:00):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Do you want to play a game of rank the scandal?

Speaker 19 (01:09:04):
Why not?

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
There you go on, Okay, so Andrew Bailey, Darlene, Tana,
Tory farn Now, one is the worst scandal of the week.
Three is the non scandal. Tim ranked them.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
Okay, I'd say.

Speaker 2 (01:09:20):
Darla, Darleen, Tory, Andrew. So Andrew is the worst scandal
of the week.

Speaker 16 (01:09:26):
No, no, no, no, no, I'm going so I'm going
for first number one.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
You know, you always go three through one to build
it up to something. So that's the leader. This is
not the oscars.

Speaker 16 (01:09:38):
You about everything to Wilson, literally, is this what it's
like for you?

Speaker 13 (01:09:42):
Kate?

Speaker 16 (01:09:42):
You have to litigate every single minor detail.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
It's it's scandal number three.

Speaker 16 (01:09:49):
Standing whilst while standing on one leg swinging the other one.

Speaker 17 (01:09:53):
The ludicrous.

Speaker 2 (01:09:53):
This is what makes this show fun. There is not
a radio breaker. Bet your Morning Reports not doing this.
I'll bet you know one. A Morning Report is on
a single leg at the moment, So scandal number three, Tim.
The least significant scandal of the week.

Speaker 3 (01:10:04):
Is Andrew Bailey.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
The second most scandal of scandal of the week is
Tory Fano. The most scandalous scandal of the week, Tim
Wilson of Grayland Auckland. I'm not graylen No.

Speaker 16 (01:10:19):
I just to build it up, all right, all right, Yeah,
it's it's bal moral, all right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:24):
That was darling Tana, okay, Kate Hawksby of unknown address.
The least significant scandal of the week is.

Speaker 19 (01:10:34):
The sorry I'm starting from third. The least angry Bailey.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
This should be a pre recorded segment so we can
edit it up. You made and we can tighten it.
It's you, You're the wrinkle. Edited it up.

Speaker 20 (01:10:53):
When you edit it up, cut this whole it out
Andrew Bailey, Darling Tana, Tory Finel. I say, Tory Fanel first,
because you single handedly have wrecked an entire city and
killed a CBD and businesses are closing and people are
leaving and students don't want to be there, and it's
just I know so many people affected by personally, it's horrific.
What's happened to Wellington so and Darling Tana was really

(01:11:13):
just an ongoing systemic failure on part of the on
behalf of the Greens, which is to be expected. But
ruining a city is unforgivable.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
That's a nice way of putting it. When you've ruined
a city, would I.

Speaker 16 (01:11:25):
Would say that I'm going to defend darl Darling Tana
because Labor didn't do it with the Greshama National didn't
use Walker jumping with Jamielee Ross and and the trigger.
They pulled the trigger and also managed to eviscerate the
possibility of the pacifica vote. The Professor Collins and I

(01:11:47):
used to chat with him and he was like, this
is where the Greens will grow. I think they've actually
done themselves a terrible disservice.

Speaker 2 (01:11:53):
Okay, nice, nice, nice hot take. On that near the end.
You got a turntable, Tim You ever have a two
about you? What about you? You know it's a good question.
I need to think about it.

Speaker 19 (01:12:06):
I do think. I do think we talked about it
this week. I do think lux and missed the boat
on the Andrew Bailey thinks he's got.

Speaker 20 (01:12:11):
To be he needs he needs to take a lesson
from Winston.

Speaker 19 (01:12:16):
Shut it down.

Speaker 20 (01:12:18):
And he just let that go and go and go
because he's too nice, it's too corporate. Is to forget it,
get savage, get in the gutter, go for the scrap.

Speaker 3 (01:12:26):
So what would you to do?

Speaker 16 (01:12:29):
Litigate it or or or like dropped, drop something on
on Andrew Bailey?

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
What would be the.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
Take him out of him with some concrete slippers.

Speaker 16 (01:12:41):
Give the old give him the old, wet telephone book
like the NYPD used to. You're wet the telephone book.
There's no bruises and you get a confession.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Is that real?

Speaker 19 (01:12:49):
They just won't They won't across it like they should
have been.

Speaker 20 (01:12:51):
They should have been all over it and stumped up
day one and given the media all the answers they
wanted and shut it right down instead of letting it
just litigate and litigating, go on and for us all witless, right,
I gotta go.

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
Have you said that?

Speaker 16 (01:13:03):
Well, the size of telephone books these days, it wouldn't
be quite the same, that is true.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
Nice to see how you a good work with Tim,
Tim Wilson, Kate hawks By A twenty two.

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Do it and store at Geneerest Warehouse online if you
like for stop paying too much with you know who,
give us warehouse Husking tails Mike, what's the angle of
the league out front? Ninety or forty five? It's more
forty five than ninety. Very good question, though you can
do ninety. You're doing well. Try one hundred and eighty.
See how it goes. I've just had an ankle replacement,
so I've only got one leg anyway, and I've got

(01:14:21):
a turntable and an old original Beatles and Motil forty
five or Glenn, you're living the dream, an't it all?
Got it all going on? Scandal we've discovered in Australia
a review. Just Australia seems to be littered with scandals
and skullduggery, doesn't it anyway? This is a community grant scheme.
It's the funniest thing. They give money to MPs who
hand the money out in their local electorates. And they

(01:14:43):
wonder why it all goes wrong anyway, Murray Hold's on
this in a couple of moments after the news, which
is next year at news Talk ZB.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The
mic Hosking breakfast with the range Rover, the lad designed.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
To intrigue and use talks Mike and joining your program
this morning standing on one leg, No problem, I'm eighty two.
I also trained Mark Mitchell. Well, that's good. Give us
your name, we'll put it to Marke and Cevie. He
remembers you morning, Micah c lux and ribbed the UK
Prime Minister about the America's Cup result? Did he call
him a loser? Very good? Twenty three minutes away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:15:17):
International correspondence with ends and eye insurance, Peace of mind
for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
Right, No, Murray Old, how are you feeling, Michael?

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
Very good morning, pretty good? Thank you this Friday morning.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
I just love the way you guys run the country.
Camden MP Selly Quinnilde who gave seventy five thousand to
the Camden Musical Society, an organization she co founded. What
could correctly? What could possibly go wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:15:41):
Mate? This is as old as politics, isn't it.

Speaker 21 (01:15:43):
I mean, look, labor here in New South Wales went
to the twenty three state election promising four hundred k
for every MP now on both sides of the of
the House, but four hundred k towards local community projects. Well,
who would see anything going wrong here?

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
I mean, as you.

Speaker 21 (01:16:03):
Say, you know, the Camden Musical Society a very worthy organization.
It does need seventy five thousand dollars of taxpayers money
to get new Dunnies or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
It was a new coffee head. I don't know, but
here we go.

Speaker 21 (01:16:15):
And such was the stench arising from this that there
was a secret review conducted by the state government and
lo and behold, we've got two projects that were absolutely
A further twenty eight were identified as having quote moderate
probity risk unquote. You know, hello, this is all in
the nine newspapers here in Sydney. The fact of the

(01:16:39):
matter is that both sides have done this for a
time immemorial.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
Right around the world.

Speaker 21 (01:16:45):
I think you'll find if there's taxpayer's money to be
sloshed around, one sidell dole it out. It's called you know,
it's just what's the phrase the phrase for it.

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
It's pork pork barreling.

Speaker 21 (01:16:56):
There we go, and that comes I think from the
the American Civil War. So anyway, look, yeah, there's been
a spike put through two of these projects completely, they've
been dumped others are now having another review.

Speaker 3 (01:17:10):
So it does stink, no doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
Tim Kraken Thorpe. The review found received campaign support from
Connections and four of the nine organizations associated with a
nominated projects. It's funny, that, isn't it. Speaking of queens
on this weekend, the coalition got a wrong home do
you think.

Speaker 21 (01:17:28):
Oh look, I think Labour's on the nose big time
in Queensland and you know, the electoral cycles tells us
that it is time for a coaling government up there,
Conservative coalition government. But gee, where's the leader of the coalition,
Chris A. Fuley. I mean, honest to God, I don't
think you'd send them out to the Bunnings to make
the sausages. He do something wrong with that on a

(01:17:49):
Saturday morning and the other sides know better.

Speaker 3 (01:17:51):
I mean, there's just a basket case.

Speaker 21 (01:17:53):
Queens And in the same way as Victoria's a basketcase.
Both labor administrations and they're bloody hopeless. They've bankrupted this
and like so often happens, they outspend and outstayed. They're welcome,
they've outspent the money that they had available. And you
know each state now is in trouble and I think, yes,
Saturday tomorrow we'll see a thumping when for the coalition.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
The Kim Williams bloke. Do you know him at all?
Is he your name? But I don't know him personally, right,
So anyway, he got speaking, he got made chair of
the ABC. One of the first things he did was
he gave him a good rack up and he said,
this far too much fluff on your website. Tight and
tidy it up, tighten it up and get a bit serious.
And they did. And I note the figures out this
week indicate they've gone back to the number one read
website in Australia. So he's probably onto something, wasn't he.

Speaker 3 (01:18:38):
Well he is.

Speaker 21 (01:18:39):
And you know a lot of people are saying here
because I worked for the ABC, I do three days
a week here trying to keep the news afloat on
the only old person in the news and the rest
of them just left school. And what Kim Williams has
done has come in and he's kicking backsides all over
the place and people say, was that's not the chairs job. Well,
he's arrived. After twenty twenty five years working for Rupert Murdoch,

(01:19:01):
he's been involved in the arts, he's run Opera Australia.
He is a serious player, a big player across many
many platforms, and he has arrived. The managing director is going.
A bunch of other things have happened. He's got rid
of the Radio National Morning breakfast presenter Patricia Carvellis. He

(01:19:23):
says he wants news to get serious again. He wants
all that fluff, as you say, off the website. You
know who cares about Duckling's making it safely across the road.
We're more injured in the bloody Middle East. But all
that fluff was getting up there and now the website
has come back. But gee wiz, I don't know if
it's the same over home in New Zealand. But you
look at radio newsrooms around the place. There's no one
left anymore, there's no money.

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
Getting put into it.

Speaker 21 (01:19:46):
No one appears apparently appears to care less about news.
So I think Kim Williams is going to be a
breath of fresh air at this place.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
Interesting and Lydia performed well this week, didn't she What
a classic she is my home world.

Speaker 3 (01:19:57):
Well, she's just a buffoon.

Speaker 21 (01:19:58):
I mean she you know, And I'm in no way
am I trying to be disrespectful to a female politician.
But she just does herself no favors by looking like
a big goose in Parliament, screaming at the King lad
and then this nonsense about I didn't swear allegiance to
the queen's heirs. I swore allegiance to her hairs until
she realized that quarter million dollars a year salary might

(01:20:19):
be at risk.

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
Oh no, no, no, I misspoke.

Speaker 21 (01:20:22):
It was a bit late because the opposite, the Federal Opposition,
has referred her off to the presiding officers of the
Senate and they're going to have an inquiry apparently into
whether or not she should be sacked. I mean, she
is an unfortunate look for her, it's unfortunate.

Speaker 3 (01:20:36):
Look. I think her heart's in the right place, but
she just behaves like I.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Just don't know how to behave herself. This dune thing
with the nuclear and it's really interesting because I don't
know if you're following this, But these data centers, we're
big in New Zealand on wanting to be a host
of data centers. And so you've got your Google's and
your Oracles and all those guys. They are now building
nuclear reactors, their own nuclear reactors mini or doing deals
with nuclear providers to run these things because the power

(01:20:59):
require is so vast that no grid can handle it,
which brings us interestingly to you, because of course we
can't get through the winter at the moment, far less
a data center without having power problems in this country
because we just don't have enough renewables and all that
sort of stuff when we're importing more coal than we
ever have. But of course you've got to hold you
got a slightly different view of that, haven't you. I mean,
you boot, you do booon coal, and you seem happy

(01:21:22):
enough to with a general view to in the long term,
maybe you know, putting it to one side and you
using a bit of window or whatever whatever else.

Speaker 21 (01:21:29):
Well, that's right, I mean, the renewables is here, the
whole renewables, a suite of renewables is here to stay.
I think that's you know, no one's arguing against that,
but how we get to that point.

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
That's where the argument is over here.

Speaker 21 (01:21:43):
We've got a fleet of ageing coal fired power stations
that basically are now clapped out.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
They're fifty sixty years old.

Speaker 21 (01:21:50):
And you know, Peter Dutton wants to have the coalition
building seven nuclear reactors. The CSIRO is Australia's number one
science agency, says, well, you won't get that up and
running for absolute decades.

Speaker 3 (01:22:07):
Will the opposite? Joyous?

Speaker 21 (01:22:08):
We will, And the head of the Australian Energy Regulator says, well,
guess what. The power stations are going to be clapped
out long before any atomic energies online, and you know
it's going to have to be a gas transition. Well,
you know the Greens hate that. So you know where
do we go from here? We too have power supply

(01:22:31):
problems in Australia and you look at the vast amounts
of coal that are here. Yes, you know, and coal
fire power stations will be used as long as they
can go, but there's no appetite to spend money to
maintain these things, to pour you know, millions and millions
of dollars into these old plants because they're going to
be bugging up next week?

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
What are you going on for the weekend? Something cool?

Speaker 3 (01:22:53):
I will be watching the All Blacks play Japan.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
Rather it'll be and by how many do you reckon?

Speaker 3 (01:22:59):
Well, you know you'd think against that rebel.

Speaker 2 (01:23:02):
Thirty or forty fifty.

Speaker 3 (01:23:03):
Yeah, I reckon twenty five to thirty points. I should
do it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
We'll all right, might go well. Seen ext Friday for
you was always Murrayolds, the Mighty Murriolds, the Fabulous murray
Old six footy. No, it's not. What do I say?
They keep making the time up? Eight forty five.

Speaker 1 (01:23:17):
The Like Asking Breakfast Full Show podcast on iHeartRadio, Howard
By News Talks.

Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
A'd be by from nine. One of my favorite parts yesterday,
the Kamala Harris thing is always my favorite part of
the end of any of those things, whether it's a
debate or a town hall seeing in Headless Bloke, I
can't remember his name, but Daniel Dale, and he's a
nerdy wee bloke. Any fact checks everything. The key to
why it went wrong yesterday for Kamala is in basically
his opening sentence. But let's fact check it.

Speaker 22 (01:23:44):
Well, there wasn't a ton to fact check tonight. Aeron,
Vice President Harris's comments were mostly a general or biographical, subjective,
or just accurate, but she also made at least one
false claim, one i'd call an exaggeration, plus a couple
others that I think left out key context. So first,
let's listen to acclaim the vice president made about her
policy shift on fracking.

Speaker 2 (01:24:03):
And you point out too, when you're running for vice
president in twenty twenty, you were not talking about banning fracking.

Speaker 4 (01:24:09):
But no, no, no, Anderson, I pledged that I would
not ban for.

Speaker 22 (01:24:12):
I know it is not true that Harris pledged in
twenty twenty that she would not ban fracking as president.
Nowhere in it did Harris say she had changed her
own previous twenty nineteen support for a fracking ban. What
she did say in that debate twice was that Joe
Biden the head, would not band fracking himself. Now let's
listen to something she said tonight about former President Trump's
border wall.

Speaker 4 (01:24:32):
Remember Donald Trump said Mexico would pay for it.

Speaker 19 (01:24:36):
Come on, they didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:24:38):
How much of that wall did he build? I think
the last nim VERUSA I was about two percent.

Speaker 22 (01:24:42):
It is true Mexico didn't pay for the wall. That
two percent figure, though, is at least somewhat too low.
Trump repeatedly said on the campaign trail in twenty fifteen
twenty sixteen that we need one thousand miles of wall,
and during his presidency, fifty two miles of new wall
were built where no wall existed before, So even that
is more than five percent of pledge. And he also
built an additional four hundred and six miles to reinforce

(01:25:04):
or replace previously existing border barriers, so I think you
could argue it should count too.

Speaker 3 (01:25:09):
Now, finally, let's.

Speaker 22 (01:25:10):
Play something the vice president said about Trump's twenty seventeen
tax cuts.

Speaker 4 (01:25:14):
Sadly, Donald Trump, when he was president, gave tax cuts
to the richest, to billionaires in big corporations, which added
trillions of dollars to our deficit.

Speaker 22 (01:25:24):
It is absolutely true that, according to independent analysts, the
wealthiest Americans got the biggest benefits from those Trump tax cuts.
So this Harris claim is not false. But I think
it's worth noting something she didn't mention, and that's that
Americans of all income levels got tax cuts from this
twenty seventeen law. Estimated that about sixty five percent of
households would get a tax cut in twenty eighteen and

(01:25:45):
between sixty and seventy six percent of taxpayers in each
and every state.

Speaker 2 (01:25:49):
There we got fat chick Kamala Harris saying in town hole,
she's I can't remember where she is today, but she'll
be in a swing site with Bruce Springsteen and Barack
Obama and Willie Nilsen away.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
From nine, cost break visited with a vida retirement communities
use togs head.

Speaker 2 (01:26:06):
Be living away from nine? How do you explain this
to me? The weirdest thing I read this week was
the number of emails Australians sent each day. How many
emails do you reckon are sent each day in Australia?
This is like the New Zealand Lolly contest. The answer
is eight point one billion per day?

Speaker 7 (01:26:24):
So person or what per person?

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
Or just no? Not no, well because lot I'm working
from home as long weekend stuff like that. So if
you then divide the eight point one by the let's
call it twenty six, I know it's heading towards twenty
seven billion, but on twenty six So eight point one
billion divided by twenty six million, obviously you come to
what three hundred and seven is the answer? You come
to three hundred and seven emails per day. Now, take

(01:26:49):
out anyone below what seven years old, maybe eight or nine,
but you're taking at least a million or two people out.
Take out the people what ninety two plus who aren't
really into emailing much anymore. You're down to maybe twenty
million people. So you're up at four or five hundred
emails a day. And then there are many people, of course,

(01:27:10):
who go, that's absurd. No one sends four or five
hundred emails a day, so take them out. There must
be people sending literally thousands of emails every day. How
do you explain that?

Speaker 7 (01:27:20):
I mean, it's all the marketing ones and stuff obviously, right.

Speaker 2 (01:27:23):
Every day I turn up, see I reckon, I get
one hundred and fifty to two hundred a day. That's
just me, and I delete every single one of them.
If first thing I do in the morning when I
arrive is click click click click delete, delete, delete, delete, delete,
delete delete. But that's an astonishing number, isn't it? Five
minutes away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
Trending Now with chemist Wells keeping Kiwi's healthy all year.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
Round, we spam automated advertorial subscriptions. That's probably a fair point.
So what we've got coming up is the Mike Tyson
Jake Paul boxing match. If you got excited that got
canceled or postponed because something happened to Tyson, get second
a plane and then you got sick on a plane. Anyway,
So Tyson v. Paul, so to get your fizzed. Netflix
is releasing a three part behind the scenes doc out.

(01:28:05):
They've called it Countdown.

Speaker 19 (01:28:08):
V.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
Tyson.

Speaker 3 (01:28:09):
I won't do anything if I don't ri being embarrassed.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
Being Mike Tyson, fighting the vision I had.

Speaker 17 (01:28:15):
It's within me to be a fighter, to be a disruptor.

Speaker 14 (01:28:20):
Mike, I love you, but I'm gonna take your thrown brother.

Speaker 3 (01:28:25):
He the manufactured to kill it. I'm a natural one killer.

Speaker 17 (01:28:29):
Mike is the greatest heavyweight of all time in my opinion.

Speaker 3 (01:28:32):
But it's my.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
Time be in good shape because your health depends on it.

Speaker 14 (01:28:38):
We're going to war and he's getting knocked out.

Speaker 3 (01:28:42):
That's really big for me. If I win, I'll be
in more of If I do it, Dad, I don't
want to die who I want to die in the ring.

Speaker 1 (01:28:49):
I will be the new face of boxing.

Speaker 3 (01:28:52):
I started JACOBV and I'm gonna finish him.

Speaker 2 (01:28:54):
I don't think you need that's true. I don't think
he's gonna be the new face of boxing if he wins,
and I don't think Mike Tyson's going to be immortal
if he wants. I think that's just a pile of crap.
What a waste of time?

Speaker 7 (01:29:05):
Can they both die in the ring? Can we make
that happen?

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
Hadn't thought about that? Sign of it? Good point. I
met Jake Paul. He was friendly seventh of November for
the first two episodes of the Behind the Scenes thing,
and the twelfth of November for the third. And then
if you've watched that and thought, yep, I'd really like
some more where that came from. Please the actual fight's
the fifteenth their first ever boxing match. And if they're

(01:29:30):
as good at streaming live boxing as they were at
whatever the awards ceremony did, they don't have a hope
because they were useless. You have a fabulous long weekend
and we will see your Tuesday as always.

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
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