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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Time for politics Wednesday, Jinny Anderson Mark Mitchell with us.
Good morning to both of you.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Morning Mike wanting Jinny.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Morning to you both.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Jinny, hand on heart. And I'm not trying to single
you out as an individual who might be slacking around
at the moment, but what do you do when the
House isn't sitting, when you're in opposition and you're a
list MP?
Speaker 3 (00:19):
I mean honestly, So so far, I've gone and visited
the construction site at Auckland Airport, looked at the new
beld On Domestic and the jobs and Skills hub there
and seeing how that's been going. I visited toad on
it and looked at zespri for the day and looked
at how gold can be through to tracking what jobs
are going, what their labor needs are. Yesterday I went
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and saw the un video game how the Rebate's going
so pick pop video. They got the forty million government
under labor rebate and their growth and their jobs as
a result of that increase we delivered last.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Budget superb answer they should.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Be getting over six seven hundred million. And I saw
the city Mission and the increase of meeting Phittamine also
homelessness on the streets, so very good answer.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
How much of that is driven by you? So in
other words, you go right, got a recess. Here's what
I'm going to do with my time.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
But of both YEA that people will help me plan
out things. I wouldn't plan that level of detail without
the help of the Labor Leader's office, so they definitely
help book me in my own EA helps put me
in but I will also have an idea of some
areas that I want to grow my understanding of where
the economy is working and not working and what kind
of information I need. And I personally really enjoy getting
up close meeting people working on construction working in those areas,
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understanding what the pressures on the economy are and how
we can work better. And New Zealand's really good for that.
You can get and ask some questions and find out
some really good information and it's part of the job
that I really love.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Good Have you been busy, Mark?
Speaker 2 (01:47):
Not the last couple of days, I've been really busy
in a very remote location in Northern Balley trying to
spear Mahi mahi of spear Fisher. But I have to
say I did delay my trip by four days because
we had the weather bomb come through and that keept
me pretty busy. But look, I think it's great that
Ginny's e been looking and chicking out number one. You know,
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obviously they've we've come through a very difficult time as
the country. But there's a lot of great stuff hippen
yet there, and I think we're definitely on the right track.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Are you up in Barley at the moment? Yes, I
am past four in the morning.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Yes it is. And I had to I had to
find somewhere that I could get coverage on my phone because,
like I said, I'm not in the tourist here, I'm
in a very remote area a million miles from nowhere.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
You're catching your fish?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Are you gonna ask me there? Like you'd make a
million excuses. The reality is no, they had not caught
a fish.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
So you've gone all the way to Asia to fish
you just caught no fish.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, but look for me, it's getting in the water.
There's no phones and you can just disconnect and and
I just yeah, And it's just a beautiful part of
the world. Some of the best spear fishing in the world.
And so you know, it's my couple of days some of.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
The best spear fishing in the world. Just you haven't quite.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Excuse I'll just haven't quite been able to get well
myself yet.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Okay, Hey, Jenny Hipkins is calling for the Mallory pat
is it today? The Privileges Committee?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I don't know, to be honest, he's calling on.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Them to turn up today. I thought everyone was the
Privileges Committee will meet when the Parliament's not sitting.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
It can do it, can do it, it can determine
its own program. But to be honest, I've been out
and about. I haven't been in the precinct, so I
don't know when they're due to a peer.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Should they appear, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
They should, and it's a good But they've also asked
I think from what I understand is they've also asked
to have support people in a peer And I think
I agree with the view that if tea kunga is
going to be used in Parliament, there needs to be
a discussion around that. So I think it's probably quite
a worth while discussion, not just for their specific case,
but for us going forward as well.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Do you get to make up would anybody else get
to make up the rules and go? Look, I've been
called to the Privilege Committee. But I'm not really turning up.
I'm inventing my own rules and I won't turn up
and I'll turn up when I want to. And as
long as this person can, does anybody else get to
get away with that sort of behavior.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Well, people get asked how they want to appear, where
they want to support people with them, what time, so
that people do get asked in terms of that sort
of level. But to be honest, not before. I haven't
seen before this kind of dancing around about when or
not all apia, So that has been a bit different.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
I'll say, all right, let's take a brief break. We'll
come back in the moment. Marke Minchell, Ginny Anderson thirteen
past New Stalks have been caught a past that, Jimmy
Anderson and Mark Mitchellweathers Mark despite the fact you're in
balley looking to spear fish. The New Zealand first to
put in a member's bill defining a woman comes out
of that British decision at the Supreme Court last week.
As a local MP is defining a woman those sort
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of issues. Does that occupy people's mind or is this
just one of these niche issues that the small group
of people get particularly exercised about so.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
As a locally pee for me and my electate, that
hasn't mean walk forward as an issue that I've had
to deal on an individual basis, or an issue that's
been forward. Isn't it for my electorate? However? You know,
obviously New zion First feel strongly about this and have
bought a bill Ford and that's entirely up to them.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
If it was a conscience boat, how would you vote.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
I'd have to see the bill. It's really hard to
even comment on it unless you've actually seen what's in
the bill.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Is there an issue, Ginny?
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I think there are bigger issues out there right now.
I do think it's a distraction. And it seems weird
that they had a bill about bathrooms and they've taken
that out, updated it with this one. It seems like
it's the same thing but another I just I.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Mean, look, I actually support what the Supreme Court in
Britain said, But having said that, I just don't know
how exercise people are on any given day about something
like this.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
People are more worried about paying their bills and buying
food and paying rental mortgage than doing this.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
This would it be.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Some people are, but you know, majority of people I
deal with, they're not concerned.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Would you would have a conscience vote? Do you expect?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
No?
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Conscience votes are just usually things like like alcohol is always,
things like abortion or euthanasia are. But I think it's
a determination by the clerk and that in terms of
whether it falls in as a conscience photo or not.
And parties can choose whether they think it is a
part conscience vote or not. But that determination sometimes is
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not an easy one to make.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, So there are conventions around what normally does fall
inside of a conscience vote. However, caucuses have got the
ability to decide themselves whether they want to treat a
voter as a conscious vote.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Would you vote Mark on Easter if they went to
change Easter? I tried to avoid it because it's so boring,
But nevertheless, if they well, I mean, you know it's
every year and on Sunday. How would you vote Sunday
if you voted on it tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Well, I mean Kieren Mechanolty spills going through the house
at the moment, and at the first reading, I've voted
to support that any day, isn't it? Yeah, only because
I do like people having you know, I do like
the idea of people having their own choice in terms
of what they want to do.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
And so what what where? Where'd you vote? Jenny?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
I think it needs a tidy up, you know, you
do see you know, you've got to different places and
people are.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
Paying it's insane. The whole thing's in sorry.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Charges and it just seems weird and they're not you know,
So I think it probably needs sort of party consensus
across the board that it needs a tidy up. Here
are the broad parameters, and we should just do it
as an agreement, because that's the thing about everybody's interests.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Sure, that's the thing about conscience, vance, isn't it? Mark
What you vote on. Conscience is not necessarily why you're
in parliament or who put you in parliament. So which
way do you favor as an electric imp Do you
go to the electorate or do you go to your
own conscience?
Speaker 2 (07:48):
So I go to the electorate, and there's no right
or wrong answer, but I just feel strong in myself
that my electorate have voted me in to be their
representative in Parliament, and so I always go to a
majority view and I'll do public meetings. I'll do surveys
and I'll do I'll have a ballot, what's and own
office that people can come in. They can show that
they are a member of the Electric and vote on it.
Other in peace take the view that they've been voted
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in by the Electrics, so they're trusting them with that conscience. Folk,
there's no right or wrong. I just go off what
my Electric.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
Wants and what about you, Jinny, I'd probably do a
bit of both.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
There's always good engagement on things like social media and
your public meetings or like I go to the markets
every couple of weeks and people will tell me what
they think, so that gives you a good gauge or
when where people are at and you sort of weigh
up those views along with your own and think, you know,
what's the best outcome. So yeah, on those ones. And
it's interesting too because these sort of and the way
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it's voted with things like abortion in euthanasia, as it's
often the Christian members on both sides to vote against,
and then it's small liberal ones on both sides and
Labor National writing the same on some of those issues.
In Labor National, how are more you know, fundamentalists and
their views voting the same way.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Do you find normal people out of the markets?
Speaker 3 (09:00):
You do get a whole range of people there, But
the Riverbank Markets and the Heart are outstanding for cheap
vegis and really good takeaway phone as well. I have
a special favor to ask Mike.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Yes please.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
My daughter Eliza is eleven today and she's listening on
the radio in the kitchen, and she asked me if
I would ask the man with the magic DJ boys
if he would say hippy birthday Eliza.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Da ginny hand on heart?
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Did she use.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Did she use the words magic DJ voice?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
She might have, like just in the hope of getting it.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Well, Eliza, I wish you a very very happy birthday,
and I hope Mama's got you the greatest gift of
all time and that you're happy with it and this
cake and this celebration and you're still too young for
a boyfriend. How does that go?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Very much?
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Happy birthday, Eliza.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
Not at all? Mark, was the plane full going up
or not? Tourism question?
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, it was, it was. It was, It was pecked,
it was, it was ruthful.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Could you see all the way to the back of
the plane from where you were.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Well, I was lucky, I admit I was flying premium economy.
It was really nice. Well, I did give up my
seat for someone very anxious, and yes, because they were
sitting in the middle, and they were very anxious about
sitting in the middle, and they asked if if they
could swap seats with me because I wasn't and I
was on the outside, and I said, you, of course,
there you go. So we so we swap seats.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Well, that's that's a nice thing to mind you. If
you hadn't done it, someone would have social media in
it and they would have done Metell refuses to give
up seat that would have been in the Herald on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I try to stay like it from economy into business
by saying I feel really anxious.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Did you just just go up and say I'm so anxious?
Somebody helped me.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (10:48):
What are you doing for Eliza? By the way, today, Jenny,
what are we doing?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I met my mum and dad's out and we still clan.
So we're having a picnic lunch at Peter at the beach.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
There you nice day for it, too, beautiful blue sky, fantastic,
all right, for you two joint and marking you on
holiday the entire time. We're going to see you in
tail It and Balley next week or no.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
No, no, I'm back. I'm becking a couple of days.
So yeah, it was a very it was. It was
a shortened visit, but I'm loving it. I'm with Sierra.
We're a remote past Balley absolutely stunning. Good and good
way to reach out to picture excellent.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
All right, well, I'll send my usual duty free list
and you can take care of that.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
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