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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We got the New Zealand first State of the nation
yesterday in christ Church. We had diversity, highest puberty blockers,
mining the Paris Climate Accord. It was all on New
Zealand First Leader Winston Peter's were this morning to you
don't mind. What are you looking to do? You're trying
to create clear ea from coalition partners.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
No, I'm just looking to state the plain facts that
the last election was a process of massive deceit. They
had a one month out from the election, a prefew
or the update before the election. It was a tissue
of lies. And I pointed out and which is the
reason why we took so long to turn around of
a sessame economy back to making progress? Now where do
(00:39):
you end it to interact and in the facts surrounding
what's going on in New Zealand. How many things are
so contrary to sound policy?
Speaker 1 (00:49):
When do you reckon it turns around the people's mind.
Because there was a poll out last week. I don't
know if you've seen it because you've been away, but
it sort of rated you on issues, not you, but
the government on issues. And you've got a three out
of ten. Doesn't look good. And your counter argument will
be will we inherit it a complete and utter shambles
as we see the economy turn When does that sink
in with the voter? Do you reckon?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
My point yesterday was to tell the mainstream media you
stood there, you were the victim and we all were
of a tissue of lives, and you didn't do your
dumn job. And that's the reason why we had our
state nation that's on Sunday yesterday, because this week, just
the last week, we finally got the update that said
the economy that you've been painting is being miserable, is
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actually on a turnaround, a long way to go. That's
why it was so important.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, but that's why I'm asking, when do you reckon
that sinson with the voter? And they get it and
see it.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Oh well, look, so many people are university coffee by
express when it comes to political science and those sort
of studies. But we're not concerned about that in these
infest We're concerned to guard there and say that this
country has got a memorous chance to turn itself around
be what we used to be a leading country. We
go to do some fundamental things publy, like extraction. We
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can't afford to go forward with stupid work signaling policies,
so to speak, like the Paris Accord, which needs to
be re examined because it's actually killing us as an economy.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
When you say the Paris Accord, would you pull out
of the Paris Accord completely?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
No, I'm saying to these younger people right here, right now,
you've all been sucked into this matter. I'm asking for
a reconsideration. The four countries I named, China, United States,
India and Russia are responsible for almost six percent of
the carbon credits of the carbon issues we've got, and
we're at point is zero point one seven. What on
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earth can we possibly do? And we've been signing up
to process where twenty two billion plus is going to
come out of our economy to some foreign economy and
nobody knows. Why do you do?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
You feel uncomfortable though that although the National Party have
driven this and it's being paired back, it's just not
pared back as much as you would like, and therefore
that's an ideological battle or not.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Look, you've asked me the question, and the question answer
is really this. They went there in twenty sixteen and
signed up to parison. Nobody knows why. As an exercise
where they were persuaded that somehow this will work, it's not.
And no one's paying attention to earn the big economy,
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so to speak. And we're just on a futile mission here.
And it doesn't make any sense. I'm saying, if you're
going to spend twenty two billion dollars, then why not
spend in your own economy, in your own country and
trying to fix the problem yourself. It is just to
my sense and my party sense, a waste of our time.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
The Labor line when you said, as the Labor Party,
this current lot, if they got rid of a few
of them, would you look at them again or are
they out full stop?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Look, mister Hepkins displayed his awful evidence when he was
in the jobs that he did have. He had one
after the other jobs. He gets to become the leader
of the Labor Party, has a bonfire of all their policies,
and then he gives us speech as I said yesterday,
setting out why they got things wrong on the have abridge,
truck away, light rail and all those things. If they
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hadn't done the homework, he said, and that's why things failed.
So if you're that incompetent the first time around, why
would you trust him to do the job the second
time around? But I don't know why everybody keeps asking
this question because I send for a particle in his viewing.
First thing, what other parties policies are their business but
not ours?
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Rubio, how well informed was he of what's happening in
this part of the world.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
He seems well informed, and so was his team, and
so was the the security national security advisor for Donald Trump. Walsh,
there were seriously well advised about those issues that you've raised,
and unusually so, because you know, I've been there in
pastimes where I family that people have not been as
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well prepared as they were.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Good to talk to. You appreciate it. Winston Pleatus, New
Zealand First Leader.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
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