October 17, 2024 • 10 mins
The week has come to an end and Kate Hawkesby and Tim Wilson joined Mike Hosking to Wrap the Week that was.
Kate had a few gripes with Mike and the show this morning, airing out her grievances on air while Mike and Tim spent some time sitting on the fence.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Coate and Tim good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
You've rugged me up this morning, or so I have twice.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
I'm having an unsothing morning with the mic husting breakfast.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
First of all, welcome to the club.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Here's my first grievance, Jacinda.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
On the world stage, you do not seriously think that
here's what New Zealand needs on the world stage, someone
business savvy. She's only popular with the literati, the glitterati,
the Hollywood elite.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Smiling and schmoozing and.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Drinking chardonnay and saying how wonderful a country that you've
abandoned and ruined is is.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Not going to cut it.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
We need someone who's like, actually got some business acumens.
So I personally disagree, and I think in your heart
of hearts, you don't really think she.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Would be a good advocate on the international stage.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Do you know. But what I was trying, actually what
I was I I wanted to do, was was just
off of the idea that it's a possibility. And to
your point, which is a fair one, that often in branding,
marketing and imaging, the tales aren't that important. Hence, justin direct.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
For New Zealanders, what what what a punch in the
guts for every single business.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
It is the international mode.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
No, but what you're saying is for this government to
put her up as our rep is basically a kick
in the teeth to all the New Zealanders that know
she ruined the country who was sitting here going, oh,
thanks very much for that, and she's representing us as
she There's no could why should she do that given
all she did to that.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
That's the counter right, that is the counter argument. I
think on balance, I think on balance you would win it.
And I was. I'm trying to I'm trying to help
Crucificans because he's devoid of anything original, and I'm just
thinking this could have been if I worked hard enough,
an idea that you could work up into something.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
So No, you know I do.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I'm just trying to be everyone's friend.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
No, no, you're not. That's not no. No. Don't sit
on the fence and radio hosting and get shot by
both sides. You know the rules.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
That's for him.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Look, man, I've gone backwards and forwards down in the
last twenty minutes because when I first heard you say that, Mike,
I was, I was. I thought, yeah, you know, we
need to move on. There's my sense was it's a
sort of both and situation. So sure she's not doesn't
have business acumen, but she is connected to these international elites,
and there's benefit to that play that card. I don't
(02:21):
see the government supporting her. I think that that international
sort of mind. You know, I'm using the word koachorie.
It's not quite true, but that group, they are self
sustaining and they know each other. I don't think that
she needs governmental.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Improves of the government in an official capacity.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I think that's Harvard's going to send the invite, whether
the government backs are or not.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, that's true. But I mean I was always trying
to think, but maybe we're just getting a little bit
sort of ansty about it, angsty about ourselves, and we're
a bit small town, and maybe we can see a
bit beyond it and we can all move on to
different parts of our lives. I was listened to a
podcast this week with Howard Stern, which I'd recommend to everybody.
And he's a guy who's been fantastically successful in radio
(03:04):
in America, and he now has evolved into a bloke
who's different to the bloke he used to be. And
he now does a different type of radio show than
he used to. And I think if you can't do
that as a human being, then there's something wrong with you.
And maybe we can evolve with our relationship with a
former prime minister and see a former prime minister in
the status of that office is something important that we
could use to our advantage.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
But look what she did. She bug it off. She
couldn't give two hoots about New Zealand and what everybody's
dealing with.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
She's gone, she's earning the big money and she's schmoozing
around the world, and I doubt she'll be back. So
you know, I don't know why we'd reward that and go, oh,
and by the way, could you please be our international representative?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I mean, no thanks.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I made a very good point to a researcher this
week in a book, and I said, this is another book,
not her book, but another book about her. And I said,
I don't know how she comes back to the country
to promote that book, because I don't think she could
step back in the cure and really feel comfortable enough
to walk down a street in any small town in
(04:04):
this place without knowing full well that things aren't going
to go well for them.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I think it's pretty split. She has a hack of yeah.
I think it is.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
There are people who adore her and there are people
who can't stand her. I think I think she would
probably it'll be fifty.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
And there's probably there's probably also like New Zealand's are
pretty apolitical. We only you know, you know when you
know there were police dogs chasing, chasing, ministers of justice,
et cetera. And everyone's going, why are the polls not
reflecting this? The fact is that we only get rapped
up about politics about a week and a half before
the election, and then we get back out of it.
(04:40):
I mean, I think it's a positive and a negative
in some way.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Well, don't you very much? You're back and forth. Don't
don't you on the fence meet him. You're on the
fence yourself, Go Kate. I agree, that's coming at a
rate of twenty to one.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I'm not surprised. I don't know what's happened to you.
I don't know what's happened to you, but you just
need to harden up. Maybe it's age you two sitting
on the fence more and more.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why I'm on
the fence because I am trying to avoid a tsunami
of chunder. I'm calling in from gastro.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
HQ here, No, no, Rachel.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
I'm not sure. Rachel's down, Wolfe's down. We're up all
last night I was singing, you know that Bill Hayley
song Rock around the Clock. I was thinking, it's a
bit more like one o'clock, two o'clock, three o'clock puke,
four o'clock, five o'clock, six o'clock, puke around with gastros.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
It only last twenty four hours.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, the best twenty four hours of your life.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Twenty four hours.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Hey, Tony Quinn, just quickly, are your story Katie yesterday
about Tony Quinn? What a great story. So Cadie's dad
is in the book shop, and just one book shop
in a moment in time, and he's watching people at
the counter asking for a book, and the lady behind
the counter goes, no, had that book. I don't know
why everyone's asking for that book this morning. We can
(06:03):
order it if you want the book, and the lady goes,
what I was on my costing this morning. So in
this one shop, in this one moment in time, and
this one suburb in one sitting in this country, all
these people lined out in the one shop for the
Tony Quinn book after yesterday's interview. Isn't that wonderful?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I think, yeah, it speaks to well, probably the area
he was in would be a would be an area
that would be tuned into the mic costing breakfast and
large numbers.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
But also elegant up market area, exactly the bright and.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
A very informed, educated, you know area. But also, what
are you.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Saying, Katie, that people in some other rooms selling the
aroma of elites.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Under h Q?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Have you forgotten righte A Vegas? What about roade Vegas?
You you want to insult the minifare.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
What I mean?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Number eight number one want to follow up?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I was going to give credit to Tony Quinn and
say it was a lovely view. He came across a
really interesting and even if you're not.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Interested in what he's done, his story is interesting.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And so I think you know.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
What eras are informed well read people then seek that out.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
What cheeria of the country, Katie, do you think would
be the most poked but would still listen to me?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Okay, here's mother bone to pick with. You guys this morning.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
One Richard Arnold in that that Fox interview with Kamala
he picked for his audio.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
He cherry picked a very always cherry.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Of that interview that was not represented in that interview.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
She got a pasting and she was She was shown
up for someone who had literally no answers to anything
because she's never been in a combative environment with an
interviewer who's challenged her.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Honestly, though, is that what people in well read eloquent
areas of the country.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
With goodness, that's true. But I think, Okay, Kate, you're
right because I listened. I listen to Richard Arnold. I
listened to Richard Arnold as well, and I just you know,
he's got a particular view on the world, and you
just got a factor that end.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
At this And I said this earlier to him. I
came at that interview yesterday from a completely neutral position.
I don't care either way.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, to you, is it the Howard Stern podcast could
be the Howard Stern podcast.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I'm the magpile broadcasting. I just think whatever somebody else
in front of me said beforehand, then I changed my mind. Anyway.
The point out she I tried to say this this way.
She's never been a good interviewee ever, so therefore she
she didn't do particularly well. But then again, nor was
she going to. But all that happened, it wasn't. It
wasn't the sort of the slam fest that the Trump
(08:31):
just thought it was. It wasn't a train wreck. It
was just it was a back and forward interview in
which she didn't perform very well because she never does.
He asked some questions in a way that most Americans
don't normally see an interview being conducted in that part
of the world. Simple as that.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
And it sounds like you and the end of the relationship.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Market, suburb anywhere in the country, you're going to find
people who think exactly the same way.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Oh, for goodness sake, No, she was exposed for the
fraud she is. She has no answers to anything.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I think she's a brand of pickle with UK think you.
I think I think there is a lot of There
is a lot of happen Tim. You can see it,
I can see it, glean can see we can all
see it. What's happened, Katie? See what.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Guys, guys? Can we bring can we bring it into land?
You've got you've got to spend the weekend together. Can
we What can we agree on?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Actually, I just got a text from my wife's.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
We don't talk politics at home.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Wonderful.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I got a text from my wife Tim, I don't
know that we are actually spending the weekend together.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Oh goodness, that's all. There's just some logistics. Don't raise
this on air.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
What are you going to do about it?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
If he talks about how we.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Can't talk to people because he couldn't talk to people
because they were so terrified that anything they told him
would end up on air, you're turning into that person.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I think now when we talk, I'm going to say
in this part, can't go on.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Kate, Kate, what do you mean turning into he's been
telling this?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
When I get home at about ten past nine, you're
going to be in a bitter mood.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I'm just sort your opinions out. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Yeah, I've had a record number of for goodness sakes
from Kate this morning.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Even though there's lots of sick people can't come around
to your house.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Do you want to come up from house?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
It sounds sounds so much.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
We'll put a sleeping bag in a bucket.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
You'll be fired, mate, sounds good. I'll see you shortly.
Nice to see you guys, well some of you anyway,
And apologies to the vast swathes of the country in
which feels slightly left out or insulted by some of
the members of this particular program this morning.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to
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Coate and Tim good morning, Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
You've rugged me up this morning, or so I have twice.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
I'm having an unsothing morning with the mic husting breakfast.
Speaker 4 (00:10):
First of all, welcome to the club.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Here's my first grievance, Jacinda.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
On the world stage, you do not seriously think that
here's what New Zealand needs on the world stage, someone
business savvy. She's only popular with the literati, the glitterati,
the Hollywood elite.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Smiling and schmoozing and.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Drinking chardonnay and saying how wonderful a country that you've
abandoned and ruined is is.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Not going to cut it.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
We need someone who's like, actually got some business acumens.
So I personally disagree, and I think in your heart
of hearts, you don't really think she.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Would be a good advocate on the international stage.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Do you know. But what I was trying, actually what
I was I I wanted to do, was was just
off of the idea that it's a possibility. And to
your point, which is a fair one, that often in branding,
marketing and imaging, the tales aren't that important. Hence, justin direct.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
For New Zealanders, what what what a punch in the
guts for every single business.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
It is the international mode.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
No, but what you're saying is for this government to
put her up as our rep is basically a kick
in the teeth to all the New Zealanders that know
she ruined the country who was sitting here going, oh,
thanks very much for that, and she's representing us as
she There's no could why should she do that given
all she did to that.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
That's the counter right, that is the counter argument. I
think on balance, I think on balance you would win it.
And I was. I'm trying to I'm trying to help
Crucificans because he's devoid of anything original, and I'm just
thinking this could have been if I worked hard enough,
an idea that you could work up into something.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
So No, you know I do.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
I'm just trying to be everyone's friend.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
No, no, you're not. That's not no. No. Don't sit
on the fence and radio hosting and get shot by
both sides. You know the rules.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
That's for him.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Look, man, I've gone backwards and forwards down in the
last twenty minutes because when I first heard you say that, Mike,
I was, I was. I thought, yeah, you know, we
need to move on. There's my sense was it's a
sort of both and situation. So sure she's not doesn't
have business acumen, but she is connected to these international elites,
and there's benefit to that play that card. I don't
(02:21):
see the government supporting her. I think that that international
sort of mind. You know, I'm using the word koachorie.
It's not quite true, but that group, they are self
sustaining and they know each other. I don't think that
she needs governmental.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Improves of the government in an official capacity.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
I think that's Harvard's going to send the invite, whether
the government backs are or not.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, that's true. But I mean I was always trying
to think, but maybe we're just getting a little bit
sort of ansty about it, angsty about ourselves, and we're
a bit small town, and maybe we can see a
bit beyond it and we can all move on to
different parts of our lives. I was listened to a
podcast this week with Howard Stern, which I'd recommend to everybody.
And he's a guy who's been fantastically successful in radio
(03:04):
in America, and he now has evolved into a bloke
who's different to the bloke he used to be. And
he now does a different type of radio show than
he used to. And I think if you can't do
that as a human being, then there's something wrong with you.
And maybe we can evolve with our relationship with a
former prime minister and see a former prime minister in
the status of that office is something important that we
could use to our advantage.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
But look what she did. She bug it off. She
couldn't give two hoots about New Zealand and what everybody's
dealing with.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
She's gone, she's earning the big money and she's schmoozing
around the world, and I doubt she'll be back. So
you know, I don't know why we'd reward that and go, oh,
and by the way, could you please be our international representative?
Speaker 2 (03:42):
I mean, no thanks.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I made a very good point to a researcher this
week in a book, and I said, this is another book,
not her book, but another book about her. And I said,
I don't know how she comes back to the country
to promote that book, because I don't think she could
step back in the cure and really feel comfortable enough
to walk down a street in any small town in
(04:04):
this place without knowing full well that things aren't going
to go well for them.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I think it's pretty split. She has a hack of yeah.
I think it is.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
There are people who adore her and there are people
who can't stand her. I think I think she would
probably it'll be fifty.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
And there's probably there's probably also like New Zealand's are
pretty apolitical. We only you know, you know when you
know there were police dogs chasing, chasing, ministers of justice,
et cetera. And everyone's going, why are the polls not
reflecting this? The fact is that we only get rapped
up about politics about a week and a half before
the election, and then we get back out of it.
(04:40):
I mean, I think it's a positive and a negative
in some way.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Well, don't you very much? You're back and forth. Don't
don't you on the fence meet him. You're on the
fence yourself, Go Kate. I agree, that's coming at a
rate of twenty to one.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I'm not surprised. I don't know what's happened to you.
I don't know what's happened to you, but you just
need to harden up. Maybe it's age you two sitting
on the fence more and more.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why I'm on
the fence because I am trying to avoid a tsunami
of chunder. I'm calling in from gastro.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
HQ here, No, no, Rachel.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
I'm not sure. Rachel's down, Wolfe's down. We're up all
last night I was singing, you know that Bill Hayley
song Rock around the Clock. I was thinking, it's a
bit more like one o'clock, two o'clock, three o'clock puke,
four o'clock, five o'clock, six o'clock, puke around with gastros.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
It only last twenty four hours.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Oh yeah, yeah, the best twenty four hours of your life.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Twenty four hours.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Hey, Tony Quinn, just quickly, are your story Katie yesterday
about Tony Quinn? What a great story. So Cadie's dad
is in the book shop, and just one book shop
in a moment in time, and he's watching people at
the counter asking for a book, and the lady behind
the counter goes, no, had that book. I don't know
why everyone's asking for that book this morning. We can
(06:03):
order it if you want the book, and the lady goes,
what I was on my costing this morning. So in
this one shop, in this one moment in time, and
this one suburb in one sitting in this country, all
these people lined out in the one shop for the
Tony Quinn book after yesterday's interview. Isn't that wonderful?
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I think, yeah, it speaks to well, probably the area
he was in would be a would be an area
that would be tuned into the mic costing breakfast and
large numbers.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
But also elegant up market area, exactly the bright and.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
A very informed, educated, you know area. But also, what
are you.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Saying, Katie, that people in some other rooms selling the
aroma of elites.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Under h Q?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Have you forgotten righte A Vegas? What about roade Vegas?
You you want to insult the minifare.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
What I mean?
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Number eight number one want to follow up?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
I was going to give credit to Tony Quinn and
say it was a lovely view. He came across a
really interesting and even if you're not.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Interested in what he's done, his story is interesting.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
And so I think you know.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
What eras are informed well read people then seek that out.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
What cheeria of the country, Katie, do you think would
be the most poked but would still listen to me?
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Okay, here's mother bone to pick with. You guys this morning.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
One Richard Arnold in that that Fox interview with Kamala
he picked for his audio.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
He cherry picked a very always cherry.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Of that interview that was not represented in that interview.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
She got a pasting and she was She was shown
up for someone who had literally no answers to anything
because she's never been in a combative environment with an
interviewer who's challenged her.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Honestly, though, is that what people in well read eloquent
areas of the country.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
With goodness, that's true. But I think, Okay, Kate, you're
right because I listened. I listen to Richard Arnold. I
listened to Richard Arnold as well, and I just you know,
he's got a particular view on the world, and you
just got a factor that end.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
At this And I said this earlier to him. I
came at that interview yesterday from a completely neutral position.
I don't care either way.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah, to you, is it the Howard Stern podcast could
be the Howard Stern podcast.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
I'm the magpile broadcasting. I just think whatever somebody else
in front of me said beforehand, then I changed my mind. Anyway.
The point out she I tried to say this this way.
She's never been a good interviewee ever, so therefore she
she didn't do particularly well. But then again, nor was
she going to. But all that happened, it wasn't. It
wasn't the sort of the slam fest that the Trump
(08:31):
just thought it was. It wasn't a train wreck. It
was just it was a back and forward interview in
which she didn't perform very well because she never does.
He asked some questions in a way that most Americans
don't normally see an interview being conducted in that part
of the world. Simple as that.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
And it sounds like you and the end of the relationship.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Market, suburb anywhere in the country, you're going to find
people who think exactly the same way.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Oh, for goodness sake, No, she was exposed for the
fraud she is. She has no answers to anything.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
I think she's a brand of pickle with UK think you.
I think I think there is a lot of There
is a lot of happen Tim. You can see it,
I can see it, glean can see we can all
see it. What's happened, Katie? See what.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Guys, guys? Can we bring can we bring it into land?
You've got you've got to spend the weekend together. Can
we What can we agree on?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Actually, I just got a text from my wife's.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
We don't talk politics at home.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Wonderful.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I got a text from my wife Tim, I don't
know that we are actually spending the weekend together.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
Oh goodness, that's all. There's just some logistics. Don't raise
this on air.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
What are you going to do about it?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
If he talks about how we.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Can't talk to people because he couldn't talk to people
because they were so terrified that anything they told him
would end up on air, you're turning into that person.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I think now when we talk, I'm going to say
in this part, can't go on.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
Kate, Kate, what do you mean turning into he's been
telling this?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
When I get home at about ten past nine, you're
going to be in a bitter mood.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I'm just sort your opinions out. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Yeah, I've had a record number of for goodness sakes
from Kate this morning.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Even though there's lots of sick people can't come around
to your house.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Do you want to come up from house?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
It sounds sounds so much.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
We'll put a sleeping bag in a bucket.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
You'll be fired, mate, sounds good. I'll see you shortly.
Nice to see you guys, well some of you anyway,
And apologies to the vast swathes of the country in
which feels slightly left out or insulted by some of
the members of this particular program this morning.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
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news Talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow
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