A land without music?

A land without music?

Is our musical culture facing an existential threat? With ever smaller numbers of young people learning instruments, the gradual erasing of music from state education and years of declining funding, things may be worse than you think. Sound World investigates the state of music today and looks at what we can do to safeguard it for future generations.

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November 8, 2024 37 mins

A land without music?

In the first episode of A land without music? we look at how the value of music both to individuals and to society and ask why those in power, don't always recognise this value.

Written and presented by Julian Leeks.

With series guests Sally Beamish, Daisy Fancourt, Peter Flach, Jess Gillam, Dame Evelyn Glennie, Sadie Harrison, Iain McGilchrist, Kadiatu Kanneh-Mason, Nico Muhly, John Pickard and Jörg Widmann.

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In episode two of A land without music? our guests talk about how they discovered music and what enabled them to develop their interest into a life-long passion; and we ask whether they would have had such opportunities had they been growing up today.

Written and presented by Julian Leeks.

With series guests Sally Beamish, Daisy Fancourt, Peter Flach, Jess Gillam, Dame Evelyn Glennie, Sadie Harrison, Iain McGilchrist, Kadiatu Kanne...

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November 24, 2024 49 mins

In a departure from our usual themed episodes in which our guests discuss a particular aspect of music, we're introducing the first in a series of bonus episodes featuring the full length interviews that we recorded for the main strand of A land without music? 

Jess Gillam was described by The Times as “uniquely mercurial” “one of Britain’s most virtuosic instrumentalists” and “an inspiring personality”. The Huffington Post went wi...

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In episode four of A land without music? our guests talk about what music education brings to children. Musicians will instinctively understand the huge social and developmental benefits of music; how it helps confidence and well-being; how it promotes engagement with the outside world and improves communication skills. Crucially, we hear how music can be an antidote to the stresses and pressures of the modern world.

But it's not j...

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December 23, 2024 58 mins

Today’s episode is the second of our bonus episodes featuring full length versions of the interviews that we recorded for the main strand of A land without music?

Our guest is Kadiatu Kanneh-Mason, mother of 7 talented children, all of whom are classical musicians. Her memoir, House of Music: Raising the Kanneh-Masons, won the Royal Philharmonic Society’s Storytelling Award in November 2021 and the following year she was awarded an...

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January 6, 2025 13 mins

Episode six is a special short episode made in response to emails we’ve received asking about the motivating factors behind the making of A land without music?

Those who have heard earlier episodes will be aware that we believe music in the UK is in poor and declining health. In this episode we look at the evidence that led us to have these concerns.

Please send comments or suggestions to info@sound-world.org or post to our Faceboo...

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January 20, 2025 39 mins

In episode seven of A land without music? our guests talk about what are the essential elements of music that all children should be taught. In a changing world of developing technology, multiculturalism and ever greater timetable and syllabus pressure, it's all a lot more complicated than it used to be. 

Written and presented by Julian Leeks.

With guests Sally Beamish, Daniel Kidane, Jess Gillam, Dame Evelyn Glennie, Sadie Harriso...

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February 3, 2025 50 mins

Today's episode is the third of our bonus episodes featuring the full length interviews that we recorded for the main strand of A land without music? 

Our guest, Nico Muhly, is an American composer whose wide ranging work includes orchestral and chamber music, operas, songs and music for film and TV. Since his early days as an archivist for Philip Glass he has worked with many of the worlds major orchestras and opera companies as w...

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In episode nine of A land without music? our guests discuss the practical issues of teaching music including timetable pressure, the allocation of scarce resources and the multiplicity of genres competing for our attention. 

Written and presented by Julian Leeks.

With guests Hilary Dunford, Peter Flach, Daniel Kidane, Dame Evelyn Glennie, Guy Guerrini, Sadie Harrison, Ingrid McLean, Kadiatu Kanneh-Mason & John Pickard.

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March 3, 2025 77 mins

Today’s episode is one of the bonus episodes featuring full length versions of the interviews recorded the main strand of A land without music?

Our guest is a Bristol based Burnley born composer John Pickard. John's works includes six symphonies, two concertos, songs, chamber pieces and six string quartets.

His orchestral piece The Flight of Icarus was described by the San Francisco Chronicle as "...a contender for the most excitin...

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March 17, 2025 44 mins

What are the dangers posed by AI and what opportunities does it bring?

What does it mean for music and for how we value, understand and experience creativity?

Leading AI researcher Prof. Peter Flach and psychiatrist, neuroscientist and author Dr. Iain McGilchrist shed light on this complex and hugely consequential subject.

Written and presented by Julian Leeks Produced by Sound World

Music: Trombone Phrases by Nico Muhly. Listen on...

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March 31, 2025 76 mins

This is another of our bonus episodes featuring one of the full length interviews that we recorded for the main strand of A land without music?.

Following on from our last episode in which our guests discussed various aspects of AI and technology, we’re talking to Prof. Peter Flach. For anyone trying to make sense of AI, how it works and what it might mean for us to, Peter is someone to listen to. Professor of artificial intelligen...

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April 14, 2025 48 mins

This episode features the first half of our interview with psychiatrist, neuroscientist, literary scholar and author of The Master and His Emissary, Iain McGilchrist. We’ve decide to put this out following the interview with AI researcher Peter Flach since it touches on many of the same issues, albeit from a very different perspective.

Beyond that, it's a wide ranging interview, reflecting Iain's exceptionally broad frame of refere...

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April 28, 2025 51 mins

This episode features the second half of our interview with psychiatrist, neuroscientist, literary scholar and author of The Master and His Emissary, Iain McGilchrist.

It's a wide ranging interview, reflecting Iain's exceptionally broad frame of reference, taking in the evolution of the human brain, art, music, modernism, AI, society, politics and spirituality. The first half of the interview was released on Monday 14th April.

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June 2, 2025 33 mins

A land without music?

In this episode of A land without music?,  we’re focusing on classical music - it’s image, how it presents itself and how it relates to the modern world.

With guests Sally Beamish, Jess Gillam, Dame Evelyn Glennie, Sadie Harrison, Kadiatu Kanneh-Mason, Daniel Kidane, Nico Muhly, Simon Opher MP, John Pickard, Samir Savant and Jörg Widmann.

Written and presented by Julian Leeks. Produced by Sound World

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June 16, 2025 78 mins
A land without music?

Today’s episode of A land without music? is another of our bonus, full length interview episodes. Our guest was the world’s first full-time solo percussionist. She’s released over 40 cds, she's won Grammys and she had a prominent role in the opening ceremony of the 2012 London Olympic Games.

She’s collaborated with Björk, Mark Knopfler & Underworld. And as far as we know she’s the only person in the overla...

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June 30, 2025 36 mins

A land without music?

New music is central to the survival of classical music as a vital, living art form. Without new repertoire it becomes mere history, a kind of musical museum exhibit. 

In episode 15 we heard about how has classical music has to think creatively to attract and retain a new audience, Well, for contemporary music, the problem is far bigger.

With guests Jess Gillam, Dame Evelyn Glennie, Sadie Harrison, Kadiatu Kan...

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July 20, 2025 81 mins

A land without music?

Episode 18 of A land without music? is one of our bonus full-length interviews and our guest is Sadie Harrison a composer, archeologist and gardener.

Her music is wide ranging in style, embracing and engaging with the culture and folk music of places such as Afghanistan, Lithuania and The Isle of Skye. It’s known for its socio-political focus with several works challenging stereotypes of marginalised peoples.

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July 28, 2025 42 mins
A land without music?

In today's episode of A land without music? we’re talking about arts funding. This is particularly relevant at the moment with an ongoing government commissioned independent review into Arts Council England and one year into a new labour government, which came in to power talking about the importance of art and putting creativity at the centre of education.

But with financial black holes, low growth and high g...

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August 12, 2025 67 mins

A land without music?

Today’s episode is a full length interview with a British composer whose works include symphonies, concertos and chamber pieces, but who also looks beyond the classical tradition to Celtic music and jazz. Indeed, some of those concertos feature fairly unusual solo instruments including accordion, saxophone & clàrsach.

In 2020 she composed April for Sound World’s lockdown album Reflections and, during the s...

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