Lawyers Who Learn

Lawyers Who Learn

Lawyers Who Learn, explores how attorneys’ engagement in lifelong learning fuels their growth. Join us to uncover these journeys and gain insights for your legal career.

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February 26, 2026 27 mins

Stacey had it all—managing $300-500 million brands as a marketing and advertising executive, traveling the world, leading teams. Then in her mid-thirties, she walked away from that successful career to attend law school full-time. Her colleagues thought she was crazy. For Stacey, law school felt like a vacation compared to her 80-90 hour work weeks.

In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman explores Stacey's journe...

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In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline, has a conversation with Steve Gluckman, a pioneer in legal e-learning who recently sold his company SkillBurst Interactive to Barbri. Though not a lawyer himself, Steve has spent over two decades developing innovative training solutions for law firms.

Steve shares his entrepreneurial journey from his early days at PwC to founding SkillBurst in 2013, which create...

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Amy Woods failed her very first IOLTA audit. Fresh out of school with a master's in accounting, she thought she had everything in order for her lawyer client, until an auditor named Bruno sat her down and explained she was looking at trust accounts like an accountant when the bar wanted something entirely different. That moment of failure became the foundation for a 20-year specialization in an area where 99% of law firms aren't in...

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Kenton Brice sits at the center of what he calls "a massive Venn diagram"—law libraries, legal technology, higher education, and the practicing bar—and from that unique vantage point, he sees something most people miss: law schools have zero incentive to change. With three powerful forces keeping the status quo locked in place (U.S. News rankings, ABA accreditation, and unlimited student loans), traditional legal education persists...

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When Jennifer Rakstad's firm surveyed their associates, the feedback was clear: traditional training wasn't having the impact they wanted. As Senior Manager of Learning and Development at White & Case, Jennifer worked hand in hand with a committee of partners to lead the creation of Momentum—a three-day immersive program that's already reached 350 lawyers. What makes it different: every session is designed and taught by the fir...

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Sarah Ennor spent years as a securities lawyer at major banks, excelling at sophisticated legal work but challenged by corporate politics and what she sometimes thought was lack of motivation and discipline. In 2015, she left corporate law, traveled to Sri Lanka for a 10-day silent meditation retreat, worked and lived on a New Zealand winery, and returned to launch her own legal practice. But running a solo practice without corpora...

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Yeve Chitiga immigrated to the United States at sixteen with clear goals shaped by hope and determination: college, law school, becoming an attorney. She followed that path, working in banking in London and later as a corporate lawyer at a top firm, reaching milestones that surpassed her wildest dreams. Along the way, a quieter inner question began to surface about meaning, contribution, and alignment.

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Noah Waisberg left Weil Gotshal without a company, without a plan, and without knowing if the technology would work. For two and a half years, the AI kept failing. There was zero revenue, a newborn at home, and mounting financial stress. Then his co-founder finally cracked it. They bootstrapped to 100 employees before raising $50 million, then pulled off one of the most creative exits in legal tech by selling while keeping 30 peopl...

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Miriam Benor convinced her firm to let her create a role that didn't exist: Director of Attorney Coaching at Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman LLP, where she coaches attorneys on anything they want to discuss, personal or professional. After finding her calling as a law school career counselor following seven years as a litigator, she moved over to Pillsbury to do training and development. After innovating numerous firm programs in t...

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Virginia Driver spent 36 years as a patent attorney in a profession she entered through a loophole, hired only because no men had applied. Today, she's building AttainIP, an AI-powered platform that could transform how patents get filed, saving attorneys 50% of their time while making the process accessible to entrepreneurs who previously couldn't afford it.

In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman explores ...

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Nichole Velasquez has never tasted coffee, not since that childhood moment when her sister convinced her to try it and she spit it out all over the kitchen floor. Yet as Fellows Program Director at LCLD, she energizes hundreds of mid-career and senior attorneys through intensive professional development that focuses on something law schools never taught: emotional intelligence.

In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnu...

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Jennifer Nelson Flynn never expected to become a TikTok creator. As a fractional general counsel at Dorf Nelson with inhouse counsel and chief privacy officer experience spanning from Arizona Beverage Company to Prestige Consumer Healthcare Inc. and Zevia PBC, she initially joined the platform anonymously just to learn about skincare and her long COVID symptoms from other users.

In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schn...

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Visibility is not a personality trait. It’s a career skill—and one most lawyers are never taught.

Paula T. Edgar, CEO of PGE Consulting Group LLC, helps lawyers and other professionals build influence, credibility, and opportunity through intentional visibility. Often attending more than 18 conferences a year, Paula is strategic about every room she enters, every relationship she builds, and how she positions herself in professiona...

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January 15, 2026 61 mins

A year ago, Bjarne Tellmann walked away from three decades as a lawyer, including 17 years as General Counsel at companies like Haleon and Pearson. Today, he's a Senior Visiting Fellow at the London School of Economics, running FjordStream Advisors, finishing his second book on AI's impact on law, sitting on boards, and advising large companies. He didn't retire to do less, he retired to do only what gives him energy.

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Kellam T. Parks never planned to become an entrepreneur. After walking away from practicing law at 26 to wait tables while his mother battled cancer, he discovered something profound: life offers infinite choices, and you're never truly trapped. Today, that philosophy drives how he runs his 14-attorney, 37-person firm with his co-owner and coaches other lawyers through his coaching business, The MOTIVATED Lawyer.

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Alexander Almazan almost walked away from practicing law entirely. After bouncing between three firms in five years, the first-generation Cuban-American attorney was exhausted by the billable hour grind and ready to accept a money management position at Credit Suisse in Connecticut. The only thing that stopped him: raising his young family far from Miami meant depriving his children of something his immigrant parents had sacrificed...

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JJ Powell answered his Eton College scholarship exam at 12, earned degrees from Oxford and Harvard, passed multiple US bar exams, and just completed his doctorate on AI and M&A, all while building a 150-lawyer global firm, producing Tony Award-winning Broadway shows, and maintaining homes in three countries. Yet his most transformative month came not in a courtroom or theater, but in rehab, where burnout forced him to reconside...

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Jon Krop made a decision that would terrify most lawyers: he quit his tech job at 30 and spent seven months in silent meditation at a teacher's center in Arizona. Living in a yurt, no phone, no talking, no reading—just meditation and twice-weekly check-ins with his teacher. What he discovered didn't just transform his relationship with ADHD and anxiety; it set him on an unexpected path toward helping legal professionals cultivate w...

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As Director of Client Intelligence at Sidley Austin, Rachel Shields Williams transforms messy relationship data into strategic intelligence, tracking how former general counsels become clients, then expert witnesses, then something else entirely. 

In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman explores how Rachel evolved from a marketing coordinator to President-Elect of the Legal Marketing Association. Her path began w...

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Julie Remer spent years as a practicing attorney secretly struggling with ADHD she didn't know she had. Then her five-year-old daughter's diagnosis sparked a revelation: those challenges she'd been white-knuckling through her entire legal career were actually neurological differences shared by 25% of law students today.

In this episode of Lawyers Who Learn, host David Schnurman explores Julie's evolution from an attorney hiding her...

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