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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jersey and Amanda jam Nation.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
There's a story going on in the British press at
the moment and you may have been following it. Philip
Schofield has been hosting Good Morning. It's the name of
the show. It's a morning TV show in Britain.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
I've seen a lot of memes of him just laughing
in name.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (00:15):
Well.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
The reason you've seen all the memes with him laughing
innately with his co host Holly Willoughby is because they
have hosted this show together for fourteen years and they
are best buddies, and they laugh a lot, and it
seems like it's a really great way to spend the
morning hanging out with these guys. He had been married
for a number of years. He's sixty one years o.
Il'd been married for thirty years something like that, and
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then a couple of years ago he came out as
gay and he announced it on the show and Holly
hugged him, and there are other people on the show
who all hugged him and said and he was married.
He'd been married for over thirty years.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Man woman relationship.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
That's right with children?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Do you what his wife said? He came out with that.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Well, it's interesting I thought that at the time that
everyone has supported at him, saying it's very brave of you,
and he's to your new life and you're finally being
your authentic self. And I thought, how does his wife
and his family feel?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
That's very hard. How would swallow say Argum say Harley
came out as.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Gay, I'd be surprised.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Brendan, Yeah, but how would you it?
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Would it be better that he came out as gay
or if he ran off with another woman?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
What's easier?
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I don't think either of it's easy. And all of
this playing out in public and everyone congratulating him on
this big move and his family at home, but the
story has progressed from there, so he lost no viewers
over that. That was great and this new world we're in,
you can say that on television and you congratulated for
being brave and, as I said, being your authentic self. Well,
fast forward to just a couple of weeks ago, and
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it seems that their friendship had cooled enormously and people
weren't sure exactly why. One of the reasons why is
that he took some time off because his brother had
a court case where he was accused of being a
child sexual abuser. He's gone to prison, and Philip Schofield
had said, I feel like I don't have a brother,
disown him now, but he was there during.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
The court case.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
There's stories that Holly hadn't been entirely briefed on the
nature of all the offenses and was horrified by what
was going on. But that doesn't mean that Philip Schofield
is tired with the same brush in anyway. And then
just a couple of weeks ago, the story came out
that he'd had a relationship with a young coworker, a
male coworker. The story was that he met him when
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the boy was about fifteen, he got him a job
on the show, but he said that they didn't have
any sexual contact until he was twenty years old. Nothing
illegal has happened. He said, I've done something that maybe
was not ethical, and I've hurt my family, and I've
lied to my coworkers and to my producers and to
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his management. His management has sacked him because he lied
to them all saying no, I haven't had affair with
this man. This man has never said anything, he's never
come forward and.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Was this his first homosexual relationship with this young fellow.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I don't know. That hasn't been spoken about publicly, but
he said that I've done something stupid, but I have
not done anything illegal. The young man is an innocent party.
He said, I was older, I should have known better.
The affair was consensual, but this was my fault. So
he stood down from his position on the show. But
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when the details of this got mercier and mercier, he
was accused of grooming this young man and he said,
I haven't done any of that. He's then been sacked
from the entire network. His TV career is over. His
management have sacked him to the point where he did
a TV interview on the weekend, and this is what
he said.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Do you want me to die? Because that's where I am.
I have lost everything. My girls saved my life.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
He said. His daughters have stood by his side, and
if they weren't with him twenty four hours, he felt
he would have taken his own life. And this is
what we do, don't we We push people from one
extreme to the other. We want to see them suffer,
and then when we see stuff we've go over're gone
too far. Because everyone it seemed to me there must
be more to the story, because why has everyone vilified
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him so much? If the boy wasn't groomed, if it
was consensual, if the boy was over the age of
twenty as he is here. I saw an interview with
the actor Rupert Everett and he was asked about it.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
What's he done this person? He's married and has had
an affair with someone that's legal to have an affair with.
Unless there's something else that we haven't heard about, they
should drop it. It's outrageous this kind of puritan fascism
that's going on. If it's just about him having an
affair and lying to his agency, why can't you lie
to your agent?
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Yeah, why can't you lie to your agents?
Speaker 2 (04:40):
It's interesting that people are going, oh, Holly must have known,
et cetera, et cetera. Well, she said she didn't, and
even if she did. I saw this in Morning Wars,
you know the Jennifer anistein TV show, the series where
Steve Carell played He was like a Matt Lauer character
on American morning television, where it came out that he
was kind of having affairs with staff. Is anyone's business.
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It is if girls are being coerced. It is if
girls are being promoted because of it, or being sacked
because of it, or having mental health issues because of it.
But if you find out one of your coworkers is
having an affair, is it your business doesn't matter? Interesting
how this will play out. But Phillip Schofield says he's
lost his TV career. He feels like he's at the
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edge of losing his life for what we're now hearing.
May he may not have. He says he hasn't groomed
him unless we hear otherwise. What do we do.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Lying to your agent? What about all those cashy jobs
you do? Sure Brenon when you're hosted Somonat's the Burnout.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
I got fifty bucks for that and a packet of smokes.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I want ten percent of that.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
You know