November 14, 2024 • 21 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to the Robin and Kid podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
John welcome. Please tell me what number time is this
to Australia for you.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Oh, that's a really good question. I want to say
that this is my twenty.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Fifth twenty five times?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Why because I love it.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
What do you love?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Do you love the work?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Do you love the people? Do you love the countryside?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
So I love the energy of the location. I love
being here like I love the way I feel when
I'm here. So I'm sure an astrologer will be able
to look at my chart and something called astrocartography and
say your chart and the Australian Meridians whatever, line up.
Because I feel really good here and I love the
community aspect, and I love the feeling of working with
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people here. And it's kind of weird because Canada is
about an hour away from where I live and I've
been here more than I've been to Canada.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Is there a difference in the way that you read
people say in Australia then you do say the US
or Canada.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Nope, I can't really say there's a difference in how
I read, but I can say there's a difference in
how I'm received so, and I think I resonate with that,
like as a New Yorker, Australia feels like New York
to me. It has a it has that same type
of like, you know, I would joke around with people
that were in California when I first started doing this work,
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and you know, they would say they would give information
to a client and I would like laugh and they'd
be why are you laughing? And I'm like, well, that's
like well like peace light love in unicorns, I'm like
that that ain't gonna fly. You come working in New York,
like you need to deliver information and I kind of
feel like you need to deliver information here and Australia's
receive reality and truth. They'll call it out when they
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don't see it, and they'll acknowledge it when they do.
So I kind of I like that.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Okay, because I work with a guy who's sadly not
here today, but he is such a skeptic although he
wants to believe, and I spend a lot of time.
I belong to a meditation class for over thirty years,
and I want him to believe, But I don't know
how you can make that happen. Do you have any ideas.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
So I tell people not to ever try to give
somebody a belief system, but to basically say, well, I
like people. I like people that are skeptical though, Like
to me, being skeptical is really important. And I think
where we are as a global society right now, I mean,
look at the technology that we have, right We're in
different places, we're communicating like it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
I have an entire app where I've got people around
the world that go live streaming and do this work
but at the same dog, same time and the same dog,
and anybody can take their phone type psychic medium in
front of their name and go on YouTube or Facebook
or TikTok, and there's no question about that. It's kind
of like, oh, they're a psychic medium. Well, now that
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person can be putting out some yuck stuff, not positive information.
So when you have somebody like your contemporary who's extremely skeptical,
that means that they're questioning. And I don't think there's
anything wrong with questioning, because that means that they're exploring
and they're looking for validation. When someone's cynical, it means
that no matter what they experience, see or learn, they're
never going to change or shift it because they've made
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a decision that it's not possible. So if he's skeptical,
I think that's a healthy thing. And I think if
you share your experiences and you give him or show
him things, then it's up for him to kind of
define what that does or does not mean for him.
But I think it's really cool that you want to
share what it is that you've learned and what you
know to help him evolve where he's.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
At, because I think if the world is more open,
we have so much to learn and it's arrogant to
believe that there just isn't anything past once we die.
So I mean, I guess the other thing is that
if people have a weird feeling, what do you say
to them? How do you tell them to be more inquisitive,
not to be like, be less frightened?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Well, I think you have to also look at what's
behind the fear. Why are they frightened? Are they frightened
because of a religious belief? Are they frightened because of
an experience they had young when they were you know,
losing a loved one and somebody may have said that
one thing to them that freaked them out. There's some
you have to look. I always look behind the like
what's the intention? Like I'll see somebody's actions under reading,
and then I don't judge that, but I kind of like,
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look at what is that catalystic moment that got them
to that place, and then try to inform them in
a different way, you know. Sometimes, like very recently I
had I had a reading where there was a woman
who came to me through a friend of a friend
and as a result of the loss that she suffered, which.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Is a really.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Difficult tragedy, like, and it was four months after the
tragedy after the reading was over, which was a favor.
After the reading was over, she said to me, why
don't they come through with things that are more significant?
So in my immediate reaction, I had to put my
ego self in check to be like, are you kidding
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me right now? Look at what actually did come through
that you validated. But then I jumped to the catalystic
moment of this is a person who had a tragedy
and we're only four months away from this tragedy, and
I had to explain, you came to me through a
friend of a friend, so your loved ones have to
validate for you information that these people could not have
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told me, like where she was sitting and what was
on the wall in front of her, and what was
happening to the left and what was happening to the right,
all of those types of things. And I said, She's like,
but why not something more meaningful? So I said, well,
what would be more meaningful? And she paused and she said,
I don't know, And I go, I do.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I go. What would be more meaningful is if they
were still here? Yeah, of course I go.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
So we're working towards the validation of understanding that there's
a survival of consciousness when it comes to love and connection.
Somebody like myself is going to give you information, I said.
Other people who are not readers like I will read.
They're going to give you emotion. They're going to give
you philosophy and theory. Yeah, and you're going to feel
amazing and elated for about five minutes. Because it's like
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giving somebody a tiktak when they're hungry. You know, it's
like a lifesaver. It's not going to help you with
your grief. So I think, really, somebody having their own
experiences and understanding and having questions and doing a little
bit of research or small doses I think would be
helpful for them.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Because it's interesting. We've started to have this conversation and
we've been talking about it with Brisbane because I have
newly moved into an old house one hundred and twenty
years old, and I have a ghost, and my partner
has seen this ghost. I've certainly felt that my animals
have reacted to it. And what's curious for me is
that in the last ten years, I've had a number
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of very close people die, and I guess my question
is is that ghost connected to me or is that
just a ghost?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
So sometimes we have these unique experiences in physical locations
that are not what people think they are. And I'm
not saying this for your specific case, but just in general,
there's like residual energy that can be left in a place.
And when I moved into my house, the person that
built my house was the builder. The previous owner was
the builder of the house. So every time I would
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sit down to do a reading in the living room,
all of a sudden, I would start feeling people walking
behind me. And I was like, okay, but I didn't
feel it when I wasn't reading. So finally I was like,
I need to figure out who died in this house
and just help.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Them on their merry way.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
So I called the gentleman he was now in living
in a different state, and I was like, and I
just need to know who died in this house, and
he said, nobody died in the house.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I'm like, dude, I am.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
The best person you could possibly are you questioning me?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I was like, I am the best person that you
can admit this to.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
And he legitimately said, well, you know, by New York
state law, we'd have to disclose that to you. Nobody
died in the house. So I believed him, but I
knew what I was feeling. So then I got really
quiet and I was like, well, did junior wife only
use like the downstairs guest room, the downstairs back room
in the kitchen And he said to me, how do
you know that? So the house was on the market
for a long time and his wife didn't want to
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keep cleaning the entire house, so she kind of banned
them to like three rooms in the house, so whenever
there was going to be a showing, they only had
to clean those three rooms. Well, they built up a
vibration in that specific house and I felt them live.
They were living in a different state, but I could
feel them walking kitchen, bathroom, back room.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Wasn't it was the energy of those people.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yep, it was an energetic pattern, so somebody like yourself
could sense what took place in the area. So just imagine,
like you know, if there were cob webs left in
the house, but these are energetic cob webs, so you
can you can get rid of those.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Now.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
The differentiation between what I'm describing and what you might
be having is that multiple people are experien It's the
same thing, witnessing the same thing. And it doesn't have
to be a love one or friend because they wouldn't
come through just in your house.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Is there any way to find their loved ones and friends?
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Like?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Is there any way that I can talk to my
two husbands and my father that have.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Passed one hundred percent? And you don't need me to
do that? Like it is think think about it as
when you send a text to a person, you may
not get an immediate reaction. You may not get a
response right away. Some people will, you know, this is
my pet peeve. Some people will read your text because
they have their red receipts on and still not respond,
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which drives me like insane. Yeah, are you an air
sign like me? I'm an I'm a lever.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
What sign are you? What sign are you?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I'm a scorpio.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I have a scorpio rising, So you should be very
in tune as a scorpio with the with the whole
world of energy. But I think one hundred percent you
can know when they're around.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Can I talk to them? I want to talk to them.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
But can you just have to talk differently?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
So if if death wasn't physical death, right, if death
was somebody becoming death deaf, what would you do?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
You would learn a different language?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, you learn sign language?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Right, So now they're dead, which means that we have
to learn an energetic form of communication. So when they communicate,
it'll be in symbolism, it'll be maybe through your dreams,
It'll be in various different patterns that get established, and
we have to be able to allow that pattern to
be something that we can relate to.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
And how do you learn that? How do you learn
that through that?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Well, you're already on the first step. You're meditating, so
you're already in the zone. You're already in that spot.
Then I'm very big on protecting your energy. So you
want to do psychiccelt defense. You want to protect your energy.
And then there's various different ways that people can develop
and kind of focus. But I'm always about your own
frame of reference. So when somebody has a dream, they
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you know, they might think that this dream they have
to look at the look up in the dream book
what it means. And I'm like, unless you wrote that
dream book, that doesn't mean anything to you, right, because
you're dreaming in your own dream symbolism.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, of course, So I and these guys laugh at me,
but I often say, I surround you with the white
light of divine love, healing and protection.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
That's it. That's the that's it.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
That's the protection.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
That's it. That is the protection. Yep, is it?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
So you do that? Oh my goodness. If I can
tell Kip Whiteman that John Edward uses white light, I
will be beside myself.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Here's Kip, here's here's the prayer.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I encircle myself on the white light of universal love
and divine protection, and then I set my intentions from
what it is I'm going to do and.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
As long as you do that, and anyone from what
you're saying, anyone can do that and meditate and whatever
first thought is it? What is it that you know
that that's what you're doing to connect Well.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Me where I'm at now and somebody who's first start
very for you know, first starting out, it's going to
be very, very different. You know, for me, it's like
I turn this on and it's like a you know,
a fire hose. Somebody else for as starting is going
to be like a leaky faucet. And you have to
pay attention to how do you receive information. Some people
may see information, some people may feel things. Some people
may hear things, but they're not hearing it in an
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out loud way. They're hearing it as a download thought
in their mind. And I'm going to tell you that
I came into this legitimately as a ardent, skeptic, borderline
cynic because my dad was a New York City police
officer and a career military guy, and he was a
non believer in anything that my mom did when it
came to the subject matter with my uncle and my
grandmother on my maternal side of the family, and at
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the age of fifteen, I went for a reading to
debunk and disprove a woman that was reading at my
grandmother's house WOA, and my mom said I was My
mom said I was allowed to do it as long
as I went and treated her with respect. And I said,
I will treat her with respect, but I'm not helping her.
And she changed my life because she gave me information,
and as a skept I had no choice but to go.
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There is no way that this woman knew what she
knew without me helping her or without me telling her. Wow,
and then she knew, she knew outcomes that there's no
way possible that she could have known. And at one
point there was a brief moment where I thought, oh,
maybe she's like telepathically reading. I'm like, she's like, you know,
she's giving she's reading my mind. And then stuff happened
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that I didn't know about, and I'm like, well, you
can't read something that's not in there. And then that
kind of sent me on a trajectory. Not to develop.
It sent me on a trajectory because I felt violated.
I didn't like the feeling that this strange woman from
New Jersey knew stuff about me in a way that
I didn't share. It kind of felt like a violation.
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So that feeling sent me to the public library where
I started learning about it. And then the more I
learned about it, the more I was like, well, this
is not psychic, this is normal, this is like common sense.
Then I realized my common sense and normal was a
little bit different, so I had to reframe some stuff.
And then I just dove like head into tarot and
learning about astrology and learning about numerology and meditation and
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psychometry and tarot and all of the tools that would
help give some type of shape to your intuitive development.
So I kind of feel like you have to do
all of that first before you can actually do mediumship.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
I don't yeah, but I don't know that very many
people want to get to where you're at. I mean,
and your extraordinary and your shows are amazing, and you
do change people's lives every I mean, I've been to
a couple of them. Every time you appear you have
made someone's life better. I guess my last question is, then,
how do you trust that thought?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
You are so intuitive it's scary.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
So if I was home right now, I would be
picking up a rock that's in front of me when
I read and the rock says trust. The rock actually
says trust on it. What do you mean it's in
front of me. I have a rock and it has
the word trust engraved on it. And every single time
I do a private reading or I'm doing this group,
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that rock is in front of me to remind me
to trusting through.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yep, yeah, but we're not like, we're not you You've
been doing it for decades. How do we trust those
thoughts that you think? This could be my imagination, this
could be my crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
You write them, You write them down. That's how you start.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
You write down, because then you you learn how things
come You learn how things come through. You know, Like
I'll give an example. I don't know, we'll probably ever
running out of time.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
But in maybe I could talk to you for ages.
It's only your time, not mine.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Sorry, kid.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Like thirty years ago, when my mom was still here
thirty plus now, she wanted to do her family tree.
So she sent away to a gift catalog. It's called
Spencer Gifts, and it was a big poster of the
family tree. Well, my mom was one of eleven, so
she basically said I would need like twenty of these
to do our immediate family. So the one that she bought,
which was framed, was in a room that I was
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reading in and one day I got stuck doing a reading.
I couldn't get this woman to understand this gentleman that
was coming through. She had no he was and I
kind of looked away from her and I looked at
the poster of the family tree, and the branch that
would be like the cousins kind of got bigger.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
For me like looking at it.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
So I turned to her and I said, would that
be a cousin And she went, oh, my god, I
can't believe I forgot that. Yes, it's my cousin. So
in that moment, the branch to the side now means
to me your contemporaries, husband's, wives, brothers, sisters, cousins, and friends.
The branches above you would be older parents, grandparents, aunts,
and uncles, and the branch below you would be younger
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than you, kids, younger siblings, nieces, dephews, and grandkids. So
that became a symbol for me. So now if I
feel like somebody's above you, I know they're older. Somebody
below I know they're younger. But that's where that came
from It came literally from that one reading where that
made no sense. So it's just a it's a process
of how you get stuff. But always come from a
place of gratitude. Always come from a place of them
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only needing to be fifty percent because you're showing up
being the other fifty that your loved ones, his friends
are going to always be tethered and connected to you
because of love and connection and family. And it doesn't
matter how long someone's been gone, they can still come through.
So you can have a person who had a rain
tumor coming through with somebody who had pancreatic cancer, and
those two people can energetically be still connected to you.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Oh my goodness. So I have a weird feeling behind me.
Is that is that something I believe in? Or is
that just because I'm slight like talking to you?
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Well, no, it's a you thing. So you're feeling it
behind you, So you feel energy behind you. I have
a colleague that when he first develops his abilities, he
would know he was ready to read because he would
feel like there was a like on the one side
of his face would get warm.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Okay, that's how that would happen. For him.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
So you have to you have to just trust. You
have to trust yourself and know because so many people
have you know, but you.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Have to be skeptical. You have to always question everything.
I think being a critical thinker in questioning everything is
probably the most important thing, right after protecting your energy.
I know.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
But when someone dies your desk.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Right, people are desperate.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
And that's why I tell people don't rush to go
for a reading, because if you rush to go for
a reading and you only want to hear from that
one person, it can exacerbate the grieving process. And the
only way through grief is by navigating it.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
And finally, when like, for example, you're coming to Brisy,
you're going to be here just having a look in October,
what happens beforehand? Before you walk on stage? Do you
have any idea about what's going to happen to you?
Do you know that you're going to make these connections?
Or it just kind of you surround yourself with white light,
you walk out there and you let the symbolisms come.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Do you remember doctor Wayne Dyer? Yes, of course. Okay,
so I was.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Invited to go see him speak, and he was a
lovely man before I went to go see him. I
never knew him, I know.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Read a couple of his books.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
I had, I can have a desire to go see him,
but a friend of mine did and bought the ticket
and kind of dragged me and I got more out
of it than he did in like two sentences. And
one of the things that he said was when I
walk out here, I have to surrender my ego and serve.
And before I walk out of any event, that's my
mantra is I surrender them at ego and serve. And
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then that's where the trust comes in, and it's you know,
it's it's a little bit of a not nerve wracking,
but there's always an anxiety of please let these people
know their family so I don't get stuck. Please let
these people know their family so that I can get
to as many people as I possibly can. You know,
please let them be open to whoever comes through, so
the people that need to come through, because I know
that every reading, every person that comes through is a
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teaching soul for everybody that's in that group that night. Yeah,
and I could do five nights at the Chandler Theater,
you know, I could do five nights in a row,
and I'll have five very different experiences based upon who's there.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
So it's not you that you're questioning, it's hoping that
they are open enough to hear what needs to be
said correct. And everyone is there for a reason, right
if they've got a ticket, it's because they need to
be in that room.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
And I hope I always do the best I can,
leaving people better than I find them with information not
to the reading, because there's so much that people can
get out of being there, and I think that being
in a room where people are being read is actually
helpful in a healing, grieving, educating process because it should
be empowering for them to see it unfold. But if
anybody feels like I need to go to this because
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I need to get a reading and this is going
to make me better, that's the person who shouldn't come.
That's the person who shouldn't go for the reading. If
you can go to an experience like this or a
private reading or whatever it is that you're going for
with an open mind, and if you hear from the
person you want to hear from, great, But if not,
you could still learn from being a part of it.
That person's going to benefit way more than a person
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who is desperate. Anybody's desperate, they should be working with
a therapist, not a medium.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Oh and on that note, I can't wait to see
you are here at the Chandler Theater on Monday, November
twenty second. I know it sells out super super quickly.
Enjoy your energy and your time in our fair country,
and thank you so much. It's Robin and hair On
Brisbane's Kissed ninety seven three
You're listening to the Robin and Kid podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
John welcome. Please tell me what number time is this
to Australia for you.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Oh, that's a really good question. I want to say
that this is my twenty.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Fifth twenty five times?
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Why because I love it.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
What do you love?
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Do you love the work?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Do you love the people? Do you love the countryside?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
So I love the energy of the location. I love
being here like I love the way I feel when
I'm here. So I'm sure an astrologer will be able
to look at my chart and something called astrocartography and
say your chart and the Australian Meridians whatever, line up.
Because I feel really good here and I love the
community aspect, and I love the feeling of working with
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people here. And it's kind of weird because Canada is
about an hour away from where I live and I've
been here more than I've been to Canada.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Is there a difference in the way that you read
people say in Australia then you do say the US
or Canada.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Nope, I can't really say there's a difference in how
I read, but I can say there's a difference in
how I'm received so, and I think I resonate with that,
like as a New Yorker, Australia feels like New York
to me. It has a it has that same type
of like, you know, I would joke around with people
that were in California when I first started doing this work,
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and you know, they would say they would give information
to a client and I would like laugh and they'd
be why are you laughing? And I'm like, well, that's
like well like peace light love in unicorns, I'm like
that that ain't gonna fly. You come working in New York,
like you need to deliver information and I kind of
feel like you need to deliver information here and Australia's
receive reality and truth. They'll call it out when they
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don't see it, and they'll acknowledge it when they do.
So I kind of I like that.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Okay, because I work with a guy who's sadly not
here today, but he is such a skeptic although he
wants to believe, and I spend a lot of time.
I belong to a meditation class for over thirty years,
and I want him to believe, But I don't know
how you can make that happen. Do you have any ideas.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
So I tell people not to ever try to give
somebody a belief system, but to basically say, well, I
like people. I like people that are skeptical though, Like
to me, being skeptical is really important. And I think
where we are as a global society right now, I mean,
look at the technology that we have, right We're in
different places, we're communicating like it's awesome.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
You know.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
I have an entire app where I've got people around
the world that go live streaming and do this work
but at the same dog, same time and the same dog,
and anybody can take their phone type psychic medium in
front of their name and go on YouTube or Facebook
or TikTok, and there's no question about that. It's kind
of like, oh, they're a psychic medium. Well, now that
(02:59):
person can be putting out some yuck stuff, not positive information.
So when you have somebody like your contemporary who's extremely skeptical,
that means that they're questioning. And I don't think there's
anything wrong with questioning, because that means that they're exploring
and they're looking for validation. When someone's cynical, it means
that no matter what they experience, see or learn, they're
never going to change or shift it because they've made
(03:21):
a decision that it's not possible. So if he's skeptical,
I think that's a healthy thing. And I think if
you share your experiences and you give him or show
him things, then it's up for him to kind of
define what that does or does not mean for him.
But I think it's really cool that you want to
share what it is that you've learned and what you
know to help him evolve where he's.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
At, because I think if the world is more open,
we have so much to learn and it's arrogant to
believe that there just isn't anything past once we die.
So I mean, I guess the other thing is that
if people have a weird feeling, what do you say
to them? How do you tell them to be more inquisitive,
not to be like, be less frightened?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Well, I think you have to also look at what's
behind the fear. Why are they frightened? Are they frightened
because of a religious belief? Are they frightened because of
an experience they had young when they were you know,
losing a loved one and somebody may have said that
one thing to them that freaked them out. There's some
you have to look. I always look behind the like
what's the intention? Like I'll see somebody's actions under reading,
and then I don't judge that, but I kind of like,
(04:26):
look at what is that catalystic moment that got them
to that place, and then try to inform them in
a different way, you know. Sometimes, like very recently I
had I had a reading where there was a woman
who came to me through a friend of a friend
and as a result of the loss that she suffered, which.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Is a really.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Difficult tragedy, like, and it was four months after the
tragedy after the reading was over, which was a favor.
After the reading was over, she said to me, why
don't they come through with things that are more significant?
So in my immediate reaction, I had to put my
ego self in check to be like, are you kidding
(05:05):
me right now? Look at what actually did come through
that you validated. But then I jumped to the catalystic
moment of this is a person who had a tragedy
and we're only four months away from this tragedy, and
I had to explain, you came to me through a
friend of a friend, so your loved ones have to
validate for you information that these people could not have
(05:27):
told me, like where she was sitting and what was
on the wall in front of her, and what was
happening to the left and what was happening to the right,
all of those types of things. And I said, She's like,
but why not something more meaningful? So I said, well,
what would be more meaningful? And she paused and she said,
I don't know, And I go, I do.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
I go. What would be more meaningful is if they
were still here? Yeah, of course I go.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
So we're working towards the validation of understanding that there's
a survival of consciousness when it comes to love and connection.
Somebody like myself is going to give you information, I said.
Other people who are not readers like I will read.
They're going to give you emotion. They're going to give
you philosophy and theory. Yeah, and you're going to feel
amazing and elated for about five minutes. Because it's like
(06:16):
giving somebody a tiktak when they're hungry. You know, it's
like a lifesaver. It's not going to help you with
your grief. So I think, really, somebody having their own
experiences and understanding and having questions and doing a little
bit of research or small doses I think would be
helpful for them.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Because it's interesting. We've started to have this conversation and
we've been talking about it with Brisbane because I have
newly moved into an old house one hundred and twenty
years old, and I have a ghost, and my partner
has seen this ghost. I've certainly felt that my animals
have reacted to it. And what's curious for me is
that in the last ten years, I've had a number
(06:54):
of very close people die, and I guess my question
is is that ghost connected to me or is that
just a ghost?
Speaker 3 (07:03):
So sometimes we have these unique experiences in physical locations
that are not what people think they are. And I'm
not saying this for your specific case, but just in general,
there's like residual energy that can be left in a place.
And when I moved into my house, the person that
built my house was the builder. The previous owner was
the builder of the house. So every time I would
(07:24):
sit down to do a reading in the living room,
all of a sudden, I would start feeling people walking
behind me. And I was like, okay, but I didn't
feel it when I wasn't reading. So finally I was like,
I need to figure out who died in this house
and just help.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Them on their merry way.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
So I called the gentleman he was now in living
in a different state, and I was like, and I
just need to know who died in this house, and
he said, nobody died in the house.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
I'm like, dude, I am.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
The best person you could possibly are you questioning me?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
I was like, I am the best person that you
can admit this to.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
And he legitimately said, well, you know, by New York
state law, we'd have to disclose that to you. Nobody
died in the house. So I believed him, but I
knew what I was feeling. So then I got really
quiet and I was like, well, did junior wife only
use like the downstairs guest room, the downstairs back room
in the kitchen And he said to me, how do
you know that? So the house was on the market
for a long time and his wife didn't want to
(08:17):
keep cleaning the entire house, so she kind of banned
them to like three rooms in the house, so whenever
there was going to be a showing, they only had
to clean those three rooms. Well, they built up a
vibration in that specific house and I felt them live.
They were living in a different state, but I could
feel them walking kitchen, bathroom, back room.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Wasn't it was the energy of those people.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Yep, it was an energetic pattern, so somebody like yourself
could sense what took place in the area. So just imagine,
like you know, if there were cob webs left in
the house, but these are energetic cob webs, so you
can you can get rid of those.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Now.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
The differentiation between what I'm describing and what you might
be having is that multiple people are experien It's the
same thing, witnessing the same thing. And it doesn't have
to be a love one or friend because they wouldn't
come through just in your house.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Is there any way to find their loved ones and friends?
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Like?
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Is there any way that I can talk to my
two husbands and my father that have.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Passed one hundred percent? And you don't need me to
do that? Like it is think think about it as
when you send a text to a person, you may
not get an immediate reaction. You may not get a
response right away. Some people will, you know, this is
my pet peeve. Some people will read your text because
they have their red receipts on and still not respond,
(09:35):
which drives me like insane. Yeah, are you an air
sign like me? I'm an I'm a lever.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
What sign are you? What sign are you?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I'm a scorpio.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
I have a scorpio rising, So you should be very
in tune as a scorpio with the with the whole
world of energy. But I think one hundred percent you
can know when they're around.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Can I talk to them? I want to talk to them.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
But can you just have to talk differently?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
So if if death wasn't physical death, right, if death
was somebody becoming death deaf, what would you do?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
You would learn a different language?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, you learn sign language?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Right, So now they're dead, which means that we have
to learn an energetic form of communication. So when they communicate,
it'll be in symbolism, it'll be maybe through your dreams,
It'll be in various different patterns that get established, and
we have to be able to allow that pattern to
be something that we can relate to.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
And how do you learn that? How do you learn
that through that?
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Well, you're already on the first step. You're meditating, so
you're already in the zone. You're already in that spot.
Then I'm very big on protecting your energy. So you
want to do psychiccelt defense. You want to protect your energy.
And then there's various different ways that people can develop
and kind of focus. But I'm always about your own
frame of reference. So when somebody has a dream, they
(10:59):
you know, they might think that this dream they have
to look at the look up in the dream book
what it means. And I'm like, unless you wrote that
dream book, that doesn't mean anything to you, right, because
you're dreaming in your own dream symbolism.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Yeah, of course, So I and these guys laugh at me,
but I often say, I surround you with the white
light of divine love, healing and protection.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
That's it. That's the that's it.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
That's the protection.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
That's it. That is the protection. Yep, is it?
Speaker 2 (11:25):
So you do that? Oh my goodness. If I can
tell Kip Whiteman that John Edward uses white light, I
will be beside myself.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Here's Kip, here's here's the prayer.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
I encircle myself on the white light of universal love
and divine protection, and then I set my intentions from
what it is I'm going to do and.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
As long as you do that, and anyone from what
you're saying, anyone can do that and meditate and whatever
first thought is it? What is it that you know
that that's what you're doing to connect Well.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
Me where I'm at now and somebody who's first start
very for you know, first starting out, it's going to
be very, very different. You know, for me, it's like
I turn this on and it's like a you know,
a fire hose. Somebody else for as starting is going
to be like a leaky faucet. And you have to
pay attention to how do you receive information. Some people
may see information, some people may feel things. Some people
may hear things, but they're not hearing it in an
(12:18):
out loud way. They're hearing it as a download thought
in their mind. And I'm going to tell you that
I came into this legitimately as a ardent, skeptic, borderline
cynic because my dad was a New York City police
officer and a career military guy, and he was a
non believer in anything that my mom did when it
came to the subject matter with my uncle and my
grandmother on my maternal side of the family, and at
(12:40):
the age of fifteen, I went for a reading to
debunk and disprove a woman that was reading at my
grandmother's house WOA, and my mom said I was My
mom said I was allowed to do it as long
as I went and treated her with respect. And I said,
I will treat her with respect, but I'm not helping her.
And she changed my life because she gave me information,
and as a skept I had no choice but to go.
(13:02):
There is no way that this woman knew what she
knew without me helping her or without me telling her. Wow,
and then she knew, she knew outcomes that there's no
way possible that she could have known. And at one
point there was a brief moment where I thought, oh,
maybe she's like telepathically reading. I'm like, she's like, you know,
she's giving she's reading my mind. And then stuff happened
(13:24):
that I didn't know about, and I'm like, well, you
can't read something that's not in there. And then that
kind of sent me on a trajectory. Not to develop.
It sent me on a trajectory because I felt violated.
I didn't like the feeling that this strange woman from
New Jersey knew stuff about me in a way that
I didn't share. It kind of felt like a violation.
(13:44):
So that feeling sent me to the public library where
I started learning about it. And then the more I
learned about it, the more I was like, well, this
is not psychic, this is normal, this is like common sense.
Then I realized my common sense and normal was a
little bit different, so I had to reframe some stuff.
And then I just dove like head into tarot and
learning about astrology and learning about numerology and meditation and
(14:05):
psychometry and tarot and all of the tools that would
help give some type of shape to your intuitive development.
So I kind of feel like you have to do
all of that first before you can actually do mediumship.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
I don't yeah, but I don't know that very many
people want to get to where you're at. I mean,
and your extraordinary and your shows are amazing, and you
do change people's lives every I mean, I've been to
a couple of them. Every time you appear you have
made someone's life better. I guess my last question is, then,
how do you trust that thought?
Speaker 1 (14:38):
You are so intuitive it's scary.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
So if I was home right now, I would be
picking up a rock that's in front of me when
I read and the rock says trust. The rock actually
says trust on it. What do you mean it's in
front of me. I have a rock and it has
the word trust engraved on it. And every single time
I do a private reading or I'm doing this group,
(15:00):
that rock is in front of me to remind me
to trusting through.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Yep, yeah, but we're not like, we're not you You've
been doing it for decades. How do we trust those
thoughts that you think? This could be my imagination, this
could be my crazy.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
You write them, You write them down. That's how you start.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
You write down, because then you you learn how things
come You learn how things come through. You know, Like
I'll give an example. I don't know, we'll probably ever
running out of time.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
But in maybe I could talk to you for ages.
It's only your time, not mine.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Sorry, kid.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Like thirty years ago, when my mom was still here
thirty plus now, she wanted to do her family tree.
So she sent away to a gift catalog. It's called
Spencer Gifts, and it was a big poster of the
family tree. Well, my mom was one of eleven, so
she basically said I would need like twenty of these
to do our immediate family. So the one that she bought,
which was framed, was in a room that I was
(15:54):
reading in and one day I got stuck doing a reading.
I couldn't get this woman to understand this gentleman that
was coming through. She had no he was and I
kind of looked away from her and I looked at
the poster of the family tree, and the branch that
would be like the cousins kind of got bigger.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
For me like looking at it.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
So I turned to her and I said, would that
be a cousin And she went, oh, my god, I
can't believe I forgot that. Yes, it's my cousin. So
in that moment, the branch to the side now means
to me your contemporaries, husband's, wives, brothers, sisters, cousins, and friends.
The branches above you would be older parents, grandparents, aunts,
and uncles, and the branch below you would be younger
(16:33):
than you, kids, younger siblings, nieces, dephews, and grandkids. So
that became a symbol for me. So now if I
feel like somebody's above you, I know they're older. Somebody
below I know they're younger. But that's where that came
from It came literally from that one reading where that
made no sense. So it's just a it's a process
of how you get stuff. But always come from a
place of gratitude. Always come from a place of them
(16:55):
only needing to be fifty percent because you're showing up
being the other fifty that your loved ones, his friends
are going to always be tethered and connected to you
because of love and connection and family. And it doesn't
matter how long someone's been gone, they can still come through.
So you can have a person who had a rain
tumor coming through with somebody who had pancreatic cancer, and
those two people can energetically be still connected to you.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Oh my goodness. So I have a weird feeling behind me.
Is that is that something I believe in? Or is
that just because I'm slight like talking to you?
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Well, no, it's a you thing. So you're feeling it
behind you, So you feel energy behind you. I have
a colleague that when he first develops his abilities, he
would know he was ready to read because he would
feel like there was a like on the one side
of his face would get warm.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Okay, that's how that would happen. For him.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
So you have to you have to just trust. You
have to trust yourself and know because so many people
have you know, but you.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Have to be skeptical. You have to always question everything.
I think being a critical thinker in questioning everything is
probably the most important thing, right after protecting your energy.
I know.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
But when someone dies your desk.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Right, people are desperate.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
And that's why I tell people don't rush to go
for a reading, because if you rush to go for
a reading and you only want to hear from that
one person, it can exacerbate the grieving process. And the
only way through grief is by navigating it.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
And finally, when like, for example, you're coming to Brisy,
you're going to be here just having a look in October,
what happens beforehand? Before you walk on stage? Do you
have any idea about what's going to happen to you?
Do you know that you're going to make these connections?
Or it just kind of you surround yourself with white light,
you walk out there and you let the symbolisms come.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Do you remember doctor Wayne Dyer? Yes, of course. Okay,
so I was.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Invited to go see him speak, and he was a
lovely man before I went to go see him. I
never knew him, I know.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Read a couple of his books.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
I had, I can have a desire to go see him,
but a friend of mine did and bought the ticket
and kind of dragged me and I got more out
of it than he did in like two sentences. And
one of the things that he said was when I
walk out here, I have to surrender my ego and serve.
And before I walk out of any event, that's my
mantra is I surrender them at ego and serve. And
(19:09):
then that's where the trust comes in, and it's you know,
it's it's a little bit of a not nerve wracking,
but there's always an anxiety of please let these people
know their family so I don't get stuck. Please let
these people know their family so that I can get
to as many people as I possibly can. You know,
please let them be open to whoever comes through, so
the people that need to come through, because I know
that every reading, every person that comes through is a
(19:32):
teaching soul for everybody that's in that group that night. Yeah,
and I could do five nights at the Chandler Theater,
you know, I could do five nights in a row,
and I'll have five very different experiences based upon who's there.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
So it's not you that you're questioning, it's hoping that
they are open enough to hear what needs to be
said correct. And everyone is there for a reason, right
if they've got a ticket, it's because they need to
be in that room.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
And I hope I always do the best I can,
leaving people better than I find them with information not
to the reading, because there's so much that people can
get out of being there, and I think that being
in a room where people are being read is actually
helpful in a healing, grieving, educating process because it should
be empowering for them to see it unfold. But if
anybody feels like I need to go to this because
(20:17):
I need to get a reading and this is going
to make me better, that's the person who shouldn't come.
That's the person who shouldn't go for the reading. If
you can go to an experience like this or a
private reading or whatever it is that you're going for
with an open mind, and if you hear from the
person you want to hear from, great, But if not,
you could still learn from being a part of it.
That person's going to benefit way more than a person
(20:38):
who is desperate. Anybody's desperate, they should be working with
a therapist, not a medium.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Oh and on that note, I can't wait to see
you are here at the Chandler Theater on Monday, November
twenty second. I know it sells out super super quickly.
Enjoy your energy and your time in our fair country,
and thank you so much. It's Robin and hair On
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