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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to the Robin and Kid podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
So, yes, we're back from holidays. I'm back from a
paternity leave, which I had a couple of weeks unexpected.
I thought I was going to be on paternity leave
this week.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
But it all works out in the end.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
It was perfect.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
You got a whole month, yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
With the baby, rather than like two weeks of prepping
and then two weeks of trying to sort it out.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
The only hard thing was, like, right, because Siena came
a full month early. We were at the hospital meals,
just didn't have anything really ready. There was a lot
of things that we're going to prep you know, like
breast pumps and things like that. I was like madly
trying to find a breath. The cots set up, I did, actually, yes,
the cot was set up, but then we didn't have
like the cots in the nursery and then for the
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first nine months they're supposed to be in your bedroom,
so I didn't have that fascinating bascinette things. So Mum
and Dad sorted that out for us. There was a
lot of help from family and friends. I don't know
how people do it by themselves. I don't know how
single mums do it, honestly, because particularly because Naomi had
to Caesar when we're in hospital, I was doing everything
because she couldn't get out of bed. So how someone
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does that by themselves.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Some pretty extraordinary, extraordinary Yeah, And they do, they really do.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
Yeah. And now now we're just getting into just solid, solid,
deep sleep deprivation, which is just because I played a
bit at this audio yesterday. Siena makes sounds all through
the night, and I think it's reflux.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
We don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
We're actually going to see a pediatrician today, ray because
she makes these sounds through that and it sounds like
she's in pain or that something's going on.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Who's that.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
I don't want her to be in pain. But it's
the cutest little thing you kind of.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Cute, but they're also scary because then she'll make those
sounds and then she'll stop, and then you know we're
in complete, complete darkness, and so then you turn on
the light and go, I'm putting my head down near
her face to make sure she's breathing all that stuff
because it sounds like she's choking. And so and now
she's like about two hours. You get about two hours
in between feeds, and then that's the sound in between
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that two hours. So I had an idea and I
spoke to Naomi about it because I'm obviously getting up
at four point thirty four work that maybe just for
this next bit, that I should be sleeping in the
spare room so that I actually get to sleep, like
I actually get at least four or five hours, because
at the moment, I just can't sleep in there in
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the room because there's so much noise. And so Sienna's
like she's either making that sound or she's actually up feeding,
and then she's making more sound because she's hungry.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Okay, and so what do you So you're but you're
concerned that if you move out of the bedroom that
it feels like I've never done it.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I don't think I've ever done it. I've never done
it before. It feels weird to separate, be out out
of our bed and for me to go, I'm going
to go and sleep in a spare room and then
maybe I'll get used to it and maybe we'll never
go back. You know, because you hear couples that sleep
in separate beds.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, and it works for them too, So okay, I
don't want to do that necessary.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
I just kind of need to thirteen.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
One oh six ' five.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
I would see because I was the person that got
up at four thirty, but I was also the one
that breastfed. So in the period of time that we
did it, I remember that Tony used to do the
late night feed and we would literally have a pair
of noise canceling headphones, and I got used to light
and so whoever had the noise canceling headphones the other
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person was doing the feed. So he would get up
and do the late night feed.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yes, and then So it was that like a bottle
express bottle I would express.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I would express on air. Jamie Dunns were more of
my boobs than he ever should have, but I didn't.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Care because I wanted it to be.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
I really wanted to breastfeed, and there was a lot
of pressure for me to return to work.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
It was a very different world twenty four years. So yeah,
so I.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
Would do the he would do the late night one.
I'd go to bed it sort of do the feed,
and then go to bed. At say eight thirty nine,
he'd do like the eleven thirty twelve feed, and I
would have the noise canceling, headphones on and like a
pillow over my head. And it's amazing how much you
can learn to sleep like that. Yeah, and then I
do the two to three am feed and then.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Go to work.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Oh man, so we stayed in the same right, but
you did it, but we did it in a way
where that we knew who was on and who was off,
and there were noise canceling the problems.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
So thirty one six fives out number if you want
to get involved, is it a good idea?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Can you go back from it? Can you just do
it for a month and then it's fine?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Or is it?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Am I copping out as well? Lonely? You don't like
sleeping by myself when I'm not with Olivia. I'm like, oh,
where's it going? Yeah, it would be lonely and ned
hear stuff going on going?
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Should I be down there helping as well?
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Okay, guys, you have so much expense. We've all done it.
Anyone who's had kids has had to work this out.
Thirteen one oh six fives.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Actually weigh in if you don't have kids.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
That's what you did, why not?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Thirteen one o six fives out number the Robin and
Chip podcast. So we're asking the question should I be
trying to sleep in a separate bedroom because Siena, my
little girl as well, is giving a lot of noise
all night, and poor Naomi, my partner, she's getting up,
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she's doing the hard yard is No, I'm not under
any illusions that, And I also feel like she's taking
her out of the room to try and let me sleep,
and therefore I feel like she can't be in bed
and sort of relax herself and.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Trying to get into some sort of routine of it.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, so is that a slippery slope though, to try
and sleep in a separate room?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Donna of Caborcia, what do you think?
Speaker 6 (05:33):
Absolutely not?
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Do it? Do it?
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Okay, we did it.
Speaker 6 (05:38):
That's what we did. So we set up the spare
room and we split the night in two. Naomi needs
sleep too, so we used to do two ships. I
would do the first six hours of the night sleeping
and my husband stay up watch TV and or try
and get a little bit of sleep while he had
the baby. And then we would switch at midnight. But
then he would get us straight six hours before he
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would get up and go.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
To work's working.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
Yeah, so we both had a good six hours. You
can't cope if you haven't got sleep.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
True, that is true, and it just it wears you down.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Also on our text line, you're in this together, Kip,
You've got to stay in the trenches with Naomi. Controversial,
but supplement feed with formula that's from Jennifer made a
huge different from my babies.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, no, I mean we're not against We're certainly doing
top ups with formula and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
So I don't know, Okay, d of Paradise point, what
do you think about the separate rooms?
Speaker 5 (06:33):
Yeah, we did it initially when we had a little Bubba,
so it definitely does work. But three years later, I'm
still in the same room with my baby, so it
can work, but it is a slippery slope.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Well, see, I don't want that three years Why haven't
you gone back?
Speaker 5 (06:47):
D Well, my baby needs me as much as my
husband needs me. So when I can go back to
my own bed, I do.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
And why three years later? Like why why?
Speaker 6 (06:57):
What?
Speaker 5 (06:58):
He got into his big bo But he likes holding
my hand at night, and you know I can't park
that up or you can see.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
This is a very you're a wonderful warning. I appreciate
you sharing d.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
What's your partner's name, Nick? And what does Nick think
about this?
Speaker 5 (07:15):
Nick's okay with it. He's a very heavy sleep and
I'm a light sleeper, so I take on the y
heavy sleep, Poe.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
See that's what. No, I don't want that. I don't
want to be in separate rooms for three years. I'm
talking about a month or so.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Okay, but that's a choice.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, like that's I mean, I guess the big thing
here that's made you physically react, Kip like literally pulled
himself away from the microphone, is that the child is
being chosen over the partner.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Yeah, because the little bubb wants to hold hands? What
about what about old mate thirty one?
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Six fives out numb?
Speaker 2 (07:44):
If you want to you know what we should ask
Naomi as well. I'm sure she'll be awake, poor things.
She's always awake at the room. Okay, let's see what
she thinks, because I feel like I'm sending her out
of the room and I certainly don't want that.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
No. No, I mean, if you don't want any more children,
that's the way to sea.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Would wake up with Robin and kid. We've been talking
about sleeping separately though, particularly with a newborn, because that's
what I've got at home, and it's it's so noisy
in our bedroom because they're supposed to be in there
for nine months now, that's the recommendation. That's the recommendation,
which is too long. It's too long to have a
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noisy person in your room, especially if you're working breakfast radio.
Speaker 1 (08:25):
This says you.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
We've got your beautiful partner and Naomi on the phone.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Congratulations mate, thanks for rob. How are you feeling.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
A bit sleepy?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Did we wake here?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I'm sorry, Sorry, that's a criminal. I was gonna.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
I was wondering last night.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
I feel like last night was better than the night
before as far as sort of sleep interruption. Is that
just because I slept through everything because I was tired?
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah? Okay, So what's happening?
Speaker 5 (09:04):
She's being a baby?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
I guess?
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Is she awake all that?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Like?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Are you getting any sleep?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:10):
I think probably an hour or so in between feeds,
not a lot, but a little bit.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
She's just waking, wanting to eat, and then a little
bit disgruntled.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
She just doesn't like lying on her back, which is
the issue, which is, you know, the new sleep rules
are that's the way they have to sleep, like twenty
years ago that you just yeah, but she has to
be on her back and as soon as she's on
her back, she can't breathe. And it's just like and
then and late and because now I'm back at work,
that's been NAMA's problem.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
So what do you think about if Kip went into
a different room.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
I think it would be a bit sad. I would understand, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Well, go to work.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I'm happy to stay and I'm not worried about the interruptions.
I'm worried that you feel like you can't be in
the room because I've notice that you've been heading out
to the nursery to sort of try and keep things quiet,
and I don't want you to feel like you can't
stay in the bed.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
I mean that's why we have the nursery though, and
that's why we got the rocking chair.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Yeah, use it for this service.
Speaker 5 (10:13):
So I'm happy to do that.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
That's fine.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Could you do something like if Kip kept noise canceling
headphones on or something like that, like could he be
able to sleep in that? I don't know, Yeah, I
think yeah, that's what I did. I mean we took
it in shifts and then I just put the noise
canceling headphones on because I had to.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Get up for work.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
Yeah, because, okay, you can you can't be sad, you
can't leave.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
No, no, I won't.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
And any chance to get more headphones for me, we've got.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
You were doing such a good job, You're awesome.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah, absolutely smashing it, Thanks Bob. Thirteen one oh sixty
five is our number if everyone to get involved with
the show.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Okay, the Winning West. What would you like to say
about separate sleeping?
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Well, first of all, I'm childless, so I feel like
my opinion matters the most. Yes, but look, sleep deprivation
is not okay. So my thoughts are, you're in a
catch twenty two. You sleep in separate beds, slippery slope,
you might never sleep in the same bed again, yeah,
or sleep deprivation you start getting agitated, having a crack
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at each other and then you end up not sleeping
in the same bed ever again.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
Well that's that's true, Okate. I love your logic. I
mean the other thing that I was thinking about too.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
It depends on what your job is if you are
responsible for Like what if you're a brain surgeon or
any sort of like, that's scary if they're not sleeping.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
You want them to be well rested, don't you.
Speaker 4 (11:54):
Yeah, And like you're radio. Everyone needs to calm down.
You're fine, mate, we'll start.
Speaker 6 (12:00):
Listen, Kate.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
These buttons, These buttons are very difficult.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
What baby you're going to miss?
Speaker 4 (12:06):
Taylor? Sweet?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
You're not going to be able to get Tyler.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Turn your mic off, Robin, I can't find.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
It right now.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
You're my favorite.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
K Thank you.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Wake up with Robin and Kid