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November 6, 2024 13 mins

Ronan Keating is in town and dropped by the studio for a chat!

Christian and Ronan chat all things radio, middle aged life, and building.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Quest. Yeah, welcome friends to the Christian O'Connell show podcast
in the studio right now. Ronan Keating. If you need
any reminding about the pedigree and the class of Ronan Keating.
In the nineties, it was in one of the biggest
boy bands in the world, boy Zone, huge all over
the world. They sold back when there were records twenty
six million songs around the world, and then goes on

(00:22):
to having an even a bigger solo career, selling some
of like twenty seven million records around the world. You
might remember some of them when you say Nothing at All,
which is in the movie notting Hill number one in
seven different countries. Ronan, lovely to see you. You and
I used to work in the same building. So Ronan
and I were rivals on breakfast radio. We were listen

(00:45):
to this us we were we were.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
No, not really, I was learning from you. I mean, look,
I came in as the new boy, and I remember
you had the big show at the Breakfast Show.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Give me you're on the big salary. I prefer always
preferred those way round. You. You had its stature. There's
roaning money and then pay me.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
I mean, you were the man and honest to God
like you you and who else was it?

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Richie? I used to do show Richie.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
I love it. Richie stayed around a long time afterwards.
He's still there, he still he's still there. But yeah,
I think Chris Evans and yourself were the two DJs
that I would, you know, kind of listen to and
and you know, take lesson from because I mean, you
know what you're doing. I was the new boy on
the block. I loved it seven years on radio.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
So you finished this year?

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah, finished it, finished it and I walked out. I
left and she ended June, I think, or end of July.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
And did you enjoy it?

Speaker 2 (01:34):
I did? I loved it.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
I was great fun. Radio was great fun.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
It was amazing. I learned so much about myself. What
did you learn about yourself? Just you know, because I
was sixteen when I joined the band, and I was
on the other side of the desk. So I was
being interviewed and I was, you know, I was fired
question People were firing questions at me, and I was,
you know, I was answering, whereas I was taking time
to think about the artist that I was and the
performer that I was. And you know, when I was

(01:58):
sitting down with you know, Ed sheer In or whoever
an interview in these sort of artists. I was thinking
about myself and who I was, and and the answers
that I gave, you know, a knee jerk reaction answers
that I would have given. It's changed me. It's changed
the way that I, you know, that I get interviewed.
It's changed the way that I that I get on
stage and perform. The things that I say between songs
are different now when I'm on stage, it's it's really

(02:20):
it's bizarre but brilliant.

Speaker 1 (02:22):
And also, do you have an even greater appreciation because look,
our stories are storytellers, right, don't you have an even
greater appreciation joy hearing stories as well? Yeah, because radio
is its best. It's a storytelling me.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
You it absolutely is. It is. It's telling stories. It's
been in people's lives as well. You know, we were
talking about it before the show. You know that the
years that we went through COVID and being in people's So,
did you still go into London? Yeah? Yeah, Well I
did a lot of the shows from home because that's
what they wanted. They wanted us to be at home
out of the studios and obviously not in close proximity
with each other. So I did the show. But when

(02:53):
I did start to go back and you realize, you know,
you're in people's bedrooms and bathrooms and.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
You're be careful with that. That b be a tell. Yeah bedroom, bedrooms,
but that's why you've had to quit that kitchens Yeah yeah, yeah,
room but no, you know.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
You were really you know, people didn't communicate with each other,
so we were communicating. We were telling the stories like
you say, and and and they were really listening and
it was very very special.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Yeah, well we did. Obviously you're in Melbourne, so we
we had a pretty nifty cheek two years. But it
was it was a privilege to actually be on the radio. Yeah, time,
it really was. It really was. And so why have
you just had enough? The hours?

Speaker 2 (03:32):
It's a lot. Yeah, I mean your granddad now, I'm
a granddad now. It is as you know, it ages you,
you know.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Getting it out of it. You're like, there's no aging
on you twenty one.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
I'm twenty one, forty seven year old. No like getting
up early every single morning, well five days a week.
But also it's trying to go to bed early the
night before, and what that does to me because I
was the night oul. I was going to bed super
late because I've becoming off stages or whatever, and then
you can't wind down. It takes ages, so you're not
in bed till two or three in the morning. Then

(04:04):
you sleep in in the morning. And that whole shift
in my life was quite dramatic, and I enjoyed it
for a while, but then I really started to grade
on me and all the things that I missed out on.
You know, I'd have to say no, I couldn't go
to dinners, I couldn't go out see friends because I
was going home and getting to bed earlier.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
I just thought, look, I can't do the early bed thing.
I still don't go to a nine till ten. I
just can't do that. Dallas Man on the radio, Look
the kids are putting you to bed. I know they're
going dance to light where they think in dance a
light way. You got to bed at seven o'clock, you see, alcoholic,
That's what.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Some of the people on the shows would do. They've
got to bed seven or eight o'clock at day. I said, what,
it's only when you start to get a bit of
time then before the kids to bed and you get
to sit down and watch a box set or whatever
the hell you set.

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Well, you've got DVD exactly, TV series what you call
the plenty you're gonna watch? Where's watch a DVD or
place academy?

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Oh, now you're talking.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
So will you ever come back to radio?

Speaker 2 (05:03):
No? No, no, I look seven brilliant years. I love
the team on Magic that Got One has actually just
replaced me. Harriet Scott and Got one now are doing
breakfast and it's just been announced. It's great. I have
a great relationship.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
I left.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
You know a lot of somebody said to me when
I was leaving, there's not a lot of people that
get clapped when they leave a radio shop, clapped out
the door, you know.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
No, you're right. It's an amazing thing, isn't Everyone should
be clapped out when they leave a job they've been doing.
Quite us, it was the best thing in the world, right,
you've obviously had, you know, standing ovations and stuff. Being
clapped out of your own workplace, what's amazing.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
It was amazing. And somebody said to me, there's a
lot of people that, you know, they literally they get
told to clear out their desk and they're not coming
back tomorrow. You know. It's that kind of thing when
you get thrown out of radio almost so I guess
it was. You know, I went out on a high,
seven brilliant years. I just want to get back to
making some music and spending time with my family and
my kids and my wife. And yeah, that's the real
decision why I decided.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
So let me tell you this. Right yesterday I googled
you just to check you out and been canceled. You
know these days.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Good Look, I hope you haven't.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
No, no, no, it's all good. It's all good. And
the first headline I saw from the good old Daily
Man is that you have quietly key wedding, quietly moved
to Australia. Is a little suitcase here.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Quite loud about it.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, Look, we've had a I lost my brother last
year and it's been Yeah, it was tough. It's been
really really tough on all of us.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
The family, and it must have been devastating.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah it's you know, a year later and I'm finding
that I haven't really started to deal with it, to
be honest. So we decided we were reevaluating life. We
wanted to be around Storm's fam My wife's Australian. We
wanted to be down here with the family and be
around them and the kids also, as you know, the
Ausie way of life is an amazing way of life
and we wanted to keep the kids that opportunity while
they're still young enough. So the kids are in school

(06:48):
in Sydney, we're here from that.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
They loving It's a different lifestyle. It's my god, they
love it.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
I asked them. I actually said to them the other
day I was walking them to school. How cool. I
walked the kids to school. I was walking them to
school and I said, where do you prefer to go
to school, guys, and the in England or here? And
they both said, hands down here here, Dad love it.
The teachers are so nice. That's actually what they said.
The teachers are so.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
This is a much more positive, friendly country. And look,
you know, we are both from countries where you can
get in the sea. You just need a lot of
jabs and medication afterwards. Cold either it's cold, that's putting
it mildly.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
It's cold, it's damp. It's the damp. It's got me,
you know it. And only people that have been in
what I'm talking about.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
It's the damn So is this home now? Have you
quietly moved to Australia? You just here for a while.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
We're here for a while. We're going to probably be
here at the back end of every year for the
next four or five years, kind of chasing the sun
a little bit. We're going to go back to the
UK for summer next year, but we'll Yeah, we're here
for a while and I don't see that changing.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
Awesome. Yeah, Lord, Now tell me this. We had a
look on chat gpt right time ten roading. You ever
put yourself into chat ChiPT.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
No, I don't even know what that is, right, honest
to god, you.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
Don't know what chat chept is? Of course you do?

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Ai oh Ai, yeah, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Well called a chat gpt, right, is this right? You
were a trade you were a carpenter. No chat gpt.
They're raving about it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
I mean we built a house in the over the
last five years.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
When you say weed, do you mean obviously got people
into do well? Yeah, but you know we got ripped
off by dodgy builders. Yeah, we got ripped off.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
In this country.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
There's a bad reputation about some Irish builders. Well, the
Irish builders didn't rip you off.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
There was English and Irish are involved, and they ripped
us off.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
And the hell rips off ron.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
We call it pop star attacks. Honestly, I was talking
to Ed Sheer and he got shafted as well.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Right, there's got some dodgy guttering or drive.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
It was a little bit more than that. But my
wife ended up taking on the job of construction company,
set up a construction company. She became the architect, she
became everything. She did the whole job. I was on site.
I'd come home from magic breakfast and.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
You will barrow put on.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
I was near I being, you know, drilling me hand
or whatever. I wasn't believable baptism afar. I remember there
was lads putting plaster borderup and and I came in
and says, what can I do? When he says, oh, well,
you wouldn't cut that plaster border, I didn't have to
cut plaster board. So I went outside YouTube how do
you put plaster? Figured that out, started cutting up the
plaster board and bringing it in. Idy great job.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
I didn't know you had a trade pass.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
No I didn't. I was I worked in a shoe
shop before Boys On?

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Is it crazy? So you go to that bad at sixteen?
You know, now you're a dad and you see what
sixteen is like you still a young kid.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Yeah, My eldest boy is twenty five, so it's mad.
By the time I was twenty five, I had left
Boys On and and I had had him my boy,
and it gets crazy. Yeah, yeah, I mean life's it's
thirty years Christian, thirty thirty one years now since I
joined them.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
But how do you look back on that periody with
life now? Can you see it differently? Do you appreciate
it in a different way? Because I think you guys
were so famous, like megastars famous.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Well, to be honest with you, it feels like a
different per I don't you know. I look at it
and I think I'm looking at somebody else's life. We don't.
I was just talking to someone about it yesterday. Bless
them that the awful news are youngly in pain on
what happened. And you know, I think that the record
industry has a lot to answer for with the way
that artists are protected as such, especially at such.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
A young age.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
He was sixteen, I believe when he when he drew
in one direction. You know, we didn't get any training.
There's no media training. Nobody comes and tells you how
to do an interview or or what to say or
you know, how you should say something or whatever whatever.
You know, there's nothing there. And I think they need
to be protected, like when you do the Voice or
you do X Factor, any of these shows, we have
basically psychologists who are there on hand to help need that.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah they do.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
You know, they get the chair doesn't turn, or you know,
they get told that it wasn't a great performance or whatever.
You know, they devastated, so you need somebody to help
them down easy, you know. And none of that was
there for supply for boys home when we were sixteen
and sometimes as God knows how scared I am now,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
But I'm look.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
I tried to keep me feet on the ground and
realize that I don't believe the hype too much. People
need to be protected more in this in this bloody
famous world or whatever that means.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
And you know we do because the pressures there they
are under now way more than ever before. Yeah scary,
I mean social media have skilled Do you want to
be in a boy band? Now, I don't think I
would be honest with you, rather be a coppenter. Yeah,
I think I run past board.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Yeah yeah, I think what's a good better at us?

Speaker 1 (11:25):
This is a guy you've sold about fifty million? What
any former middle aged boy band?

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Perfect? Well, actually I was talking to Gary Barlow. He's
in Australia at the moment.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
You take that boys out here and I was seeing
them tomorrow. Gary and I I think we have we've
kind of well, we've lived a very similar life, but
both of yeah, i'm're at a very similar stage in
our lives now. Yeah, maybe we will start a band.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
The to of us.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
We've been talking about doing something together. So maybe that's
what you do.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
You know, what is time for a middle age old
boy band? There you go, Yeah, our cell tours. You
just do afternoon shows. Come on, we can sell a
little bit modern r please.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Christen's mike.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Face that I said.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
I know what they are.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
They're a good time.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
They're a good time. All right, you do a few
warm up okay, great, yeah, we do the warm up there,
that's a good Then you go to the MCG Now
I like way you've gone.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
Absolutely, thanks, Now tell us about Oaks Stay. You're looking
forward to performing?

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yes, yes, performing today, and I've been at Melbourne all
week obviously. I performed on Tuesday at Melbourne Cup with
Ricky Lee one hundred thousand people. The reception was phenomenal.
It was really it was incredible. I kind of put
out the mic at the end of one of the
songs and they sang the line back to me and
it was just this wall of voices. It was so powerful.
It was really special. So you're very much looking forward

(12:45):
to performing today. You show me someone who's owned a horse.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
I have.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, big mistake, huge, huge, huge. Did you lose money?
Give anyone advice done by a horse? I lost a fortune? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Didn't win anything, it did.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Actually we did have one wine down in Limerick somewhere
in Ireland, one of the big major tournaments. Yeah, it
was a major. I think we sold him after that.
I wasn't going to get any better.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
It was a nightmare, all right. Lovely to see you
man too.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
You really well. I don't know about that. Thank you,
you do too. It's like a smile on your face,
you know how to smile, And I no, no, I didn't.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
I didn't smile, so I was forty six.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Thank you very much for coming in.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Thanks christ The Christian O'Connell Show podcast
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