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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ladies. Something that you know that I'm very passionate about
that I want to talk about today is the story
of Joshua Taylor Miles. He's a junior Cronella Sharks player
NRL player who has two of the most horrific tattoos
a text aside the message that they that they portray
aside horrific looking tattoos on his quads.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
These tattoos like ugly tatoos anyway, No, it's what they say.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
They're horrible.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
They're really bad tattoos. So the tattoos on his on
his left side, on his left thigh says each shit
and then it's a gay slur, a slur against gay people,
the F slur. I'm not to say it because I
think it's disgusting. On the other leg, it says snort lines.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
And F the F word.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
So he's full of class.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Oh yeah, he's a classy, classy, twenty three year old
kid play.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I mean it's three in sans seraph. So that does
scream a bit of class, doesn't it. Yeah, it does.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
If it was comic sands, I'd be vomiting in my mouth.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
If it was general italicst it's horrific.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Is what it is jokes aside disgusting tattoos. I'm a
gay man, I've got a boyfriend. I also live in Kronella.
I'm a Cronella boy. My dad is an ex Coronella
Sharks played for the Cornela Sharks reserve team like thirty
years ago, and now I live right around the corner
from the SHARKI Stadium, so this hits really close to home.
Let me read what the Cronella Sharks or the Junior
NRL squad said. They said, the Nswnral and Cronella Junior
(01:13):
are committed to providing a safe, fund and inclusive environment
for all people. So what we've asked Josh to do
is cover the tattoos up or will ban him? So
cover the tattoos up and he can keep playing.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Mitch, how do you feel about that as being an
adequate response to this? Because I know how much this
affects you and how when you saw this, what that
net like, what that did for you and what they
did to you. What does covering it up like? Is
that enough?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I had a visceral reaction to this. It angered me,
like deeply angered me. First of all, the way we
found out about these tattoos was the Junior Cronella Sharks
Instagram page posted it at a professional photoshoot of them playing.
They post tattoosh with the tattoo showing. Obviously they didn't
see it, they didn't notice. But the fact that that
that slur was posted to their Instagram without anybody knowing
(01:57):
tells me there's not a gay man that works in
the NRAL the crenolic show.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
But also, I don't believe that it could be possible
for that entire team to not know what was written
on his legs, for the coach to not know what
was written on his legs. He's always wearing shorts and
it's very visible what has been written. It's not like
this is small. This covers hit the entirety of the
front of his thush.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Here's the thing goes deeper. So he's gone to Balley
and he's got the tattoos covered up. So he sat
down with the management at Junior Sharki's and they've said
cover it up and you can play. He's gone to
Bali to rub it in. He's documented the whole process
on Instagram stories of covering, covering them up. He's got
I don't even I don't even know what he's covered
up with. There's an eyeball and there's a bear and
shut like he's got.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Full now it's like a Viking and a bear.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, full quad tattoos. It is covered up, he posted
on his insta story Gone but not forgotten.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I think this is so completely disgusting. And I know
that if you worked in any other workplace, if you
rocked up with a visible tattoo that was discriminatory in
any way about race, religion, sexuality, it doesn't matter, you
would lose your job for that. And I think we
make so many allowances for people who work in the
sporting world because we see them as icons. It's like,
(03:06):
if you can throw a ball and you're really good
at sport, you can get away with so many things
that other people are not given the allowances on. But
also in this, I mean we all remember back in
twenty nineteen Israel p Faalao he lost his four million
dollar contract because he had posted very publicly on social
media that hell was a place for gay people or
something to that effect. I don't wait to quote exactly,
(03:27):
but that's what it was about. And he doubled down
on this, and I think that this is the same thing.
Because he's doubled down the thing that he posted on
Instagram saying gone but not forgotten. It means that even
though yes, he might have covered the tattoos, he still
holds those values. He still believes very strongly in the
things that he's posting and whether or not we like it,
people who play in professional sport in Australia, they are
(03:48):
they are role models, they are icons, they get influencers.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
He's a father, yeah, and him is a father. He's
got a son that would.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Totally him having these views. It allows other people to
hold those views and it makes it okay for other
people to say those here.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
But Laura, as a gay person, it scares me. You know,
I don't think I've told you girls this. A month ago,
two months ago, I don't know. I was in Cronella
with my boyfriend Steven getting ice cream. It was like
nine pm. I was called the f slur on the
street of Cronella by a bunch of boys walking out
of Northey's Pub. Now, I know, Cernella and all these
doesn't have a reputation for being the most inclusive place,
but I've been born and raised in Cronella. I'm eating
(04:22):
ice cream with my boyfriend, I'm harming nobody, and I
get called a slur. And I'm a big, strong boy.
I can cop that, right. But I mean you say
that to a young queer boy, a boy that doesn't
even know his identity.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I mean that where you are strong enough to copper.
It's about the fact that you shouldn't have to be
in a position to be strong enough to cop it.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
That's why, well, that's why I think I think he
should be stood down immediately. If I came to work
with a shirt on that had any slur about any
different minority group or any person that's different to the norm,
I'd be fired on the spot. I think he should
be fired because if that is what he's happy to
promote on his body, imagine what he says behind closed doors.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
As someone that grew up with their dad playing for
the Kronella Sharks chronolog they are your team. How do
you feel now knowing that something that you supported doesn't
support you.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
It's hurtful. It's it's so deeply hurtful. And if you know,
I mean, it's so the natural response is to say,
sackam you know, like it's easy, but it's genuinely how
I feel. Unless he can sit face to face with
me or members of the queer community and tell us
why he feels like that way, I want to I'd
love to know why. I'd love to know what thought
process this guy had when he sat down and how
he was however old he was, and got these tattoos
(05:26):
on his body, because I mean, it's scary. Excuse me anyway.
All right, let's got a break back after this on
the pickup
Ladies. Something that you know that I'm very passionate about
that I want to talk about today is the story
of Joshua Taylor Miles. He's a junior Cronella Sharks player
NRL player who has two of the most horrific tattoos
a text aside the message that they that they portray
aside horrific looking tattoos on his quads.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
These tattoos like ugly tatoos anyway, No, it's what they say.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
They're horrible.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
They're really bad tattoos. So the tattoos on his on
his left side, on his left thigh says each shit
and then it's a gay slur, a slur against gay people,
the F slur. I'm not to say it because I
think it's disgusting. On the other leg, it says snort lines.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
And F the F word.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
So he's full of class.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Oh yeah, he's a classy, classy, twenty three year old
kid play.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
I mean it's three in sans seraph. So that does
scream a bit of class, doesn't it. Yeah, it does.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
If it was comic sands, I'd be vomiting in my mouth.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
If it was general italicst it's horrific.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Is what it is jokes aside disgusting tattoos. I'm a
gay man, I've got a boyfriend. I also live in Kronella.
I'm a Cronella boy. My dad is an ex Coronella
Sharks played for the Cornela Sharks reserve team like thirty
years ago, and now I live right around the corner
from the SHARKI Stadium, so this hits really close to home.
Let me read what the Cronella Sharks or the Junior
NRL squad said. They said, the Nswnral and Cronella Junior
(01:13):
are committed to providing a safe, fund and inclusive environment
for all people. So what we've asked Josh to do
is cover the tattoos up or will ban him? So
cover the tattoos up and he can keep playing.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Mitch, how do you feel about that as being an
adequate response to this? Because I know how much this
affects you and how when you saw this, what that
net like, what that did for you and what they
did to you. What does covering it up like? Is
that enough?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
I had a visceral reaction to this. It angered me,
like deeply angered me. First of all, the way we
found out about these tattoos was the Junior Cronella Sharks
Instagram page posted it at a professional photoshoot of them playing.
They post tattoosh with the tattoo showing. Obviously they didn't
see it, they didn't notice. But the fact that that
that slur was posted to their Instagram without anybody knowing
(01:57):
tells me there's not a gay man that works in
the NRAL the crenolic show.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
But also, I don't believe that it could be possible
for that entire team to not know what was written
on his legs, for the coach to not know what
was written on his legs. He's always wearing shorts and
it's very visible what has been written. It's not like
this is small. This covers hit the entirety of the
front of his thush.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Here's the thing goes deeper. So he's gone to Balley
and he's got the tattoos covered up. So he sat
down with the management at Junior Sharki's and they've said
cover it up and you can play. He's gone to
Bali to rub it in. He's documented the whole process
on Instagram stories of covering, covering them up. He's got
I don't even I don't even know what he's covered
up with. There's an eyeball and there's a bear and
shut like he's got.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Full now it's like a Viking and a bear.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, full quad tattoos. It is covered up, he posted
on his insta story Gone but not forgotten.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
I think this is so completely disgusting. And I know
that if you worked in any other workplace, if you
rocked up with a visible tattoo that was discriminatory in
any way about race, religion, sexuality, it doesn't matter, you
would lose your job for that. And I think we
make so many allowances for people who work in the
sporting world because we see them as icons. It's like,
(03:06):
if you can throw a ball and you're really good
at sport, you can get away with so many things
that other people are not given the allowances on. But
also in this, I mean we all remember back in
twenty nineteen Israel p Faalao he lost his four million
dollar contract because he had posted very publicly on social
media that hell was a place for gay people or
something to that effect. I don't wait to quote exactly,
(03:27):
but that's what it was about. And he doubled down
on this, and I think that this is the same thing.
Because he's doubled down the thing that he posted on
Instagram saying gone but not forgotten. It means that even
though yes, he might have covered the tattoos, he still
holds those values. He still believes very strongly in the
things that he's posting and whether or not we like it,
people who play in professional sport in Australia, they are
(03:48):
they are role models, they are icons, they get influencers.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
He's a father, yeah, and him is a father. He's
got a son that would.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Totally him having these views. It allows other people to
hold those views and it makes it okay for other
people to say those here.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
But Laura, as a gay person, it scares me. You know,
I don't think I've told you girls this. A month ago,
two months ago, I don't know. I was in Cronella
with my boyfriend Steven getting ice cream. It was like
nine pm. I was called the f slur on the
street of Cronella by a bunch of boys walking out
of Northey's Pub. Now, I know, Cernella and all these
doesn't have a reputation for being the most inclusive place,
but I've been born and raised in Cronella. I'm eating
(04:22):
ice cream with my boyfriend, I'm harming nobody, and I
get called a slur. And I'm a big, strong boy.
I can cop that, right. But I mean you say
that to a young queer boy, a boy that doesn't
even know his identity.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I mean that where you are strong enough to copper.
It's about the fact that you shouldn't have to be
in a position to be strong enough to cop it.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
You know.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
That's why, well, that's why I think I think he
should be stood down immediately. If I came to work
with a shirt on that had any slur about any
different minority group or any person that's different to the norm,
I'd be fired on the spot. I think he should
be fired because if that is what he's happy to
promote on his body, imagine what he says behind closed doors.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
As someone that grew up with their dad playing for
the Kronella Sharks chronolog they are your team. How do
you feel now knowing that something that you supported doesn't
support you.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
It's hurtful. It's it's so deeply hurtful. And if you know,
I mean, it's so the natural response is to say,
sackam you know, like it's easy, but it's genuinely how
I feel. Unless he can sit face to face with
me or members of the queer community and tell us
why he feels like that way, I want to I'd
love to know why. I'd love to know what thought
process this guy had when he sat down and how
he was however old he was, and got these tattoos
(05:26):
on his body, because I mean, it's scary. Excuse me anyway.
All right, let's got a break back after this on
the pickup
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