February 27, 2025 • 31 mins
Alina Habba, Counselor to the President, joins Sean to discuss the White House's release of information on the Jeffrey Epstein case.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, thank you Scott Shannon, and thanks to all
of you for being with us. Right down our toll
free telephone number if you want to be a part
of the program. As always, there is plenty of news
that is going on. We'll get to some of this
layer an incredible Oval Office presser with Keir Starmer, who
is the British Prime Minister and President Trump and covering
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a wide variety of topics.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
It was so good.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I think we're going to play a lot of it
coming up later in the show. We just have so
much news that is breaking today now. I want to
be very clear as we begin. I guess phase one,
if you will, or part one of the Epstein files
are now. They're out there and are being released. I've
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had a conversation with Marshall Blackburn, and Marshall Blackburn has
been one of the loudest voices of people that have
been looking for these files to be opened. She's been
very critical of the FBI. I apparently the FBI has
video footage and IRS records, and she believes the FBI
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is thwarted again. The FBI under Biden and Harris, the
effort to be transparent and the saddest part of this
is these files today reveal two hundred and fifty four
what they believe to be two hundred and fifty four
victims quote messuses, some of them they believe underage, and
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those names will be redacted obviously and rightly. So now
we have known a lot about names that have been
mentioned and people that have been associated with Epstein for
a long time, like Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Prince Andrew.
You know, remember President Trump. Yeah, there's a picture of
President Trump from years and years ago with Epstein. But
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when he became a member of mar A Lago and
he found out how he was treating people, he threw
him out of the club, uh and and wanted nothing
to do with him. This guy seems on every level
to have been somebody that wants to be around wealthy
and famous people. And so I think it's very important
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that you understand that what Pam Bondi is doing, she's
releasing flight logs, a lot of names, et cetera. And
basically this will will be a first step in terms
of creating a roadmap where law enforcement and includes law
enforcement notes as well as my understanding, so that they
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can take this and find out how deep this, this
this whole corrupt you know, sex trafficking scandal goes, and
who might be involved and who may not be involved.
And when you hear you know names, you know you've
got to Also. One of the things that I think
has been signature in the show, and I kind of
said this in this media interview that I did, is
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on this show, we don't rush to judgment. Just because
somebody flew on Jeffrey Epstein's plane does not mean that
they're guilty of anything. The only thing I would argue,
and everybody is presumed innocent, you don't rush to judgment.
We're not going to do that here. However, the good
news is with the release of names, I would like
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to think that if the people whose names, some of
which I will mention to you that you know again,
you give them the presumption of innocence, I hope they
will be cooperative with the FBI and with Attorney General
Pam Bondi and give up whatever information that they have.
It is I think it is critical, especially when you're
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talking about victims and underage victims, and the numbers that
we're talking about now sex trafficking is one hundred and
fifty billion dollars a year business. There are that many sick, ugly, evil,
twisted people in the world. So I think that everybody
that that maybe Epstein worked his way into their world
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are guilty. I do not, but you know, I think
they do owe it to the end. They don't know
what to the public if they don't want to. I know,
if it was me, I would want it out there
and say, the guy said he was flying the same
place I was flying, so I took a ride and
I was playing big deal.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
That would not be a big deal.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
But you know, I noticed that Mayor Bloomberg's name is
in today's first file. Do I think Mayor Bloomberg is
was involved with Epstein? I have no way of knowing.
My gut tells me no. I have no idea. Or
Ellie Wizzelle or Naomi Campbell or Angie Dickinson or Alec Baldwin,
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They're all presumed innocent, and everybody needs to understand that.
I think people expected today, you know, big big bombshells.
The New York Post put out earlier today that they're
really aren't big bombshells here. But what we are learning
is the extent. I mean, you had former President Clinton,
Bill Gates, Prince Andrew who his career ended up ending
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in disgrace, and some other people and all of this information.
Hopefully we'll get to the bottom of it. We never got
to the bottom. This is phase one and there's going
to be other phases and other information that will be
public and over time, hopefully a full picture will emerge,
and hopefully those people that have had contact with him,
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and that contact now in full transparencies being released. Hopefully
many of them that were not and never would have
been involved in anything like this can cooperate. It is
obvious that this guy, there is a word for that, Linda,
but you can't say it on TV. This guy love
to be around rich and famous people. There's no doubt
about that part. But the idea that it's that extensive
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should scare everybody, and anybody with a heart and a
soul I think would want to be helpful in getting
to the bottom of what they knew, when they knew it,
what they saw, you know, at any point where they
ever alarmed, And hopefully and then I'd like to know
what happened, you know, with this suicide when he hung
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himself from a bed that was low to the ground
and the cameras just happened to be not working that day,
and the prison guards just weren't working at that moment.
It seems a little too convenient for me. But do
I know anything for sure? I do not, And we
don't want to get over our skis, and we won't
get over our skis. So anyway, we'll get into this more.
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We'll check in with Elena Habba coming up, one source said.
The person said the unveiling would be a disappointment to
sleuths that are eager for bombshell new evidence about the
you know, the billionaire psycho connection to prominent political and
business leaders. Anyway, the client list included is in the
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initial release, which was compiled compiled into binders described as
Phase one of the Epstein files.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Copies of the binder circulated.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I just believe in transparency and what they do with
it from there is going to be part of what
the DOJ and the FBI hopefully we'll get to the
bottom of and you know, hopefully these girls can get justice.
And if you have any information, or if anybody has
any information, they have to make sure the identity is
protected in their personal information. Of the two hundred and
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fifty four victims that we're talking about here, as if
the Department of Justice would release a list of the
clients it's sitting on my desk. Now, that's that's been
a directive of President Trump. You know, still nobody really
knew what this guy did for work. We just knew
that he was filthy rich. Of course, the Lolita Express
and everything else that has been public now for a
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long time, and hopefully soon thereafter we'll get to the bottom.
We'll get the release of the JFK files, the RFK files,
the MLK files. Why has all of this been hidden
from the public since the nineteen sixties. Tell me, tell
me why that makes sense in any way, And the
answer is obvious, it does not. Trump's Education Department is
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investigating civil rights violations ignored by Joe Biden. Nearly one
hundred anti Semitic violence and harassment cases not resolved under
the Biden administration. Almost seventy of them occurred after the
Hamas attack on Israel and related to elementary secondary post
secondary schools. According to the Trump Department of Education, they
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announced these investigations, which I'm glad this cabinet meeting has
gone very very viral from yesterday and that the government
shrinking efforts will now go all across government. Will get
into more detail on that, and achieving a trillion dollar
debt reduction requires savings of four billion dollars a day
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from now until the end of September, and Elon must
saying that we can get that done. The President went
into great specificity in detail today about what is emerging
as a deal. He doesn't want to go in his case,
get over his skis either there hasn't been a deal made.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Everybody in the media would like for President Trump to
start calling either Zelensky or putin names and assert blame, etc. Well,
first steps first, Zelenski will be at the White House
Tomorrow is going to be the establishment of this US
Ukraine Mineral Fund. The President emphasized with the British Prime
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Minister today that that will mean that there is going
to be a US presidence there. You know from Emmanuel
Macrone that they're willing to put troops inside of Ukraine
to help with the safety, security and rebuilding efforts. The
mineral deal will also be a fifty to fifty deal.
We're going to help America is going to help with
its technology to extract these rare earth minerals, and that
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would first pay back America for all the money and
the weaponry that was given to Ukraine over time. But
more importantly, it will give money to Ukraine to allow
them a time and effort to rebuild. I do believe
that the US will maintain maximum you know, recognize as
US gave Ukraine a significant financial contribution. I mean it
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almost became a proxy war. But anyway that there is
an agreement on the rare earth mineral deal, which means
that Ukraine in the United States will be closer than
they've ever been. And then of course Europe has to
do their part to protect their continent. The Poland is
scrambling air defenses as Russia strikes western Ukraine and the
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US is flying nuclear capable B fifty two bombers off
of Russian borders on the anniversary of the invasion of Ukraine.
Does Donald Trump want an escalation of the war? No,
we all anyone with a brain wants war in Europe
and war in the Middle East to come to an end.
Are two things happening simultaneously. Russia's economy is suffering and
(11:19):
Gordon Chang made an interesting observation to John Solomon's just
Thenews dot Com that China's espionage activity against the US,
as well as the country's business and economic policies, are
designed to weaken what Beijing sees as their chief rival.
The American people need to understand the nature of the challenge.
China wants to take down the US because they believe
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we are an existential threat. And Chang told just the
News that China's reported economic growth of five percent is
probably inflated and that President Chi and his refusal to
rely on domestic consumption means that there is a potential
for tariffs that would have a significant effect. And Donald
Trump addressed the issue of a reciprocal tariffs once again
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today and that is going to be a big component
in preventing countries from taking advantage of US. We had
a caller from Canada the other day, and I want
to be friends with Canada. I like Canada, but if
the people of Canada, you know, rely on the United
States for the bulk of their national security and defense,
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and then they're not paying their fair share to NATO,
and they're not doing enough to control their borders and
stop the influx of illegal immigrants and drugs into our country,
then they're not being good neighbors. And the idea that
America is even giving them, you know, billions of dollars
on an annual basis. Why are we giving them billions
of dollars? Why did they have tariffs on a lot
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of American products like dairy and you know, agriculture and poultry,
et cetera. They won't allow American seeds to be imported
into their country. Why why are they putting tariffs on
our products? I mean, the idea if you want if
you believe in free and fair trade, then you believe
in free and fair trade. It's really that simple anyway.
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So we're going to get into all of that. There's
a lot of coverage today of Gene Hackman and his
wife have been found dead. I'm not exactly sure what's
going on there. Anyway, we got a lot of ground
to cover today. We will cover it all. We will
also get in your calls. Eight hundred and ninety four one,
Shawn is our number. Look at all the they keep
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that there were no disparities by ray, religion, sex, nationality, disability,
and it goes on and on and on, and basically
his racial quotas as far as I interpret it and.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
The New York Post interpreted it.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Lee Zelden says over one thousand employees have already left
the agency. He thinks he can cut the EPA by
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The Trump State Department has identified sixty billion dollars in
grants that could be eliminated. Thank goodness, John Roberts stopped
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this court order on foreign payments by a lower Biden
appointed judge.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I mean, it's just unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
But in this case, Trump State Department completed their review
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And it's all the same crap, all right, twenty five
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Speaker 2 (17:10):
Anyway? Anything anyone there, Linda or.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
No, they will be her momentarily.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Eight hundred nine four one Shawn is a number if
you want to be a part of the program. Alena
Hobb is gonna check in with us. We're gonna get
an update from her on the Epstein file Phase one
release from earlier today, and again I want to put
emphasis on we don't rush to judgment. Just because somebody's
name is mentioned as having flown on the plane or
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whatever does not mean that they knew or were guilty
of anything. It just gives it gives the FBI and
the dj a roadmap, hopefully to learn more information to
get to the bottom of what they have identified in
this Phase one report today two hundred and fifty four,
what they believe to be victims, what they're calling victims,
and get to the bottom of it. I mean I
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would hope we can, you know, agree that that's a
good thing. But it doesn't mean just because somebody's name
is on it that they're guilty of anything. This guy
seems like he was obsessed with celebrity and obsessed with money.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
That's the one takeaway.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
And in the course of my life, I have noticed
that there are people, Yeah, you kind of figure out
over time. M maybe they really only like me because
I am a public figure.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I've had that happen. Linda, You've seen that happen.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
We've discussed that many times, number of times, and it's frustrating.
I mean, I just try to be nice to everybody and.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Be a good christ. That was your first mistake. Why
being nice as a first Are you backsliding again?
Speaker 4 (18:43):
See?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
The unique thing about me is that I actually stay
in one spot, you know, like I get listen, I
think the president's doing a great job. He's being nice
to everybody. I wouldn't be nice to this Prime minister,
not for one second.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
And well, I mean, you know, I know everybody wants
him to just like drop bombs on everyone one's head
all the time.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Well, actually JD Evans did do it. I have to
give to JD some credit.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I did see JD talked about the freedom of speech restrictions. Uh,
and we'll get to this and play some of it later.
But the freedom of speech restrictions in Europe and how
it does impact American companies. I mean, they have free
speech laws all over Europe now and it's it's gotten insane,
absolutely crazy. Anyway, we welcome our friend Alena Hamba back
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to the program. I thought, at one point you said, now, Sean,
I'm not going into the White House.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Now you went in.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
You remember saying that to me, right, You're one percent correct.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
I said that famously.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
But I will tell you because when I was there
to interview the president in the Oval office, I got
to see you and Dan Scavino in Scavino's office, and
it is really great to know that people like yourself
and Dan and everybody there. I don't I'm going to
miss a million names that you guys are there, and
that you do it at you know, great personal cost
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and sacrifice financially and an opportunity costs and the expense
of maintaining two homes in many cases, and up rooting
your kids and sending them to the new schools.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
It's hard to do.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Yeah, I'm actually away from my kids, and that adds
another layer of it. But it is the ultimate sacrifice.
It is really not the ultimate sacrifice, but it is
a sacrifice that I am proud to be endeavoring on.
And you're right. I told you many times at Mari Lago.
I remember selling right right like you said it. I said, Sean,
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I'm not going in. I'm going to go to the
keeping the private sector. And you said, okay, I'm a here.
I am famous last words. But it's so nice.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I kind of suspected you might. He's pretty persuasive. You
gotta admit, if you know him personally, he is very persuasive.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
The art of the deal, the art of the deal, Sean,
It's funny. I haven't spoken about this, but I remember
I thought Susie archiefs of staff at Marijuaga. One evening,
they were doing transition meetings and I was having dinner
with my family and she caught me in the lobby
of the club and said, Alena can go in and
speak to the president. And I said why, She said,
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just go in and speak to the president. And I
walk in and there's screens everywhere the transition teams sitting there,
you know, Howard Lutnik was there and many other members,
and the President looked at me and he said, so,
what are you going to do in the White House?
And I said, no, sir, I'm not going. And he
said and why are you not going? And I gave
him my reasons, and he said, so what are you
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going to do for me in the White House? And
it was you know, you're negotiating with the best negotiator.
But it was a blessing. Everything he's pushed me to
do has been so tremendous, and I just hope I
can give this country one ounce of what they deserve
in my time here.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Well, I'm sure you will.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
I mean the fact that there were different times I'd
interview you and it looked dire with dealing with the
law fair and the weaponization and all these different cases,
and you and other attorneys were juggling them all, and
I remember, you know, I'd expressed to you my concerns
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about that. I really feel he put it all on
the line in terms of this. It was either the
White House or they would have tried to put him
in jail, and I think they probably would have been successful.
Do you think I'm wrong?
Speaker 4 (22:31):
No, I think you and I had some of the
most frank conversations. That's why I value our friendship. But
we always were very honest with each other throughout the
last four years of hell. And really there is no
other way than excite. It was war. It was a
different kind of war, but it was war, and we
were fighting for his safety, for the American people, for
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our country, and for his family and his livelihood, of course,
but it affected such a bigger thing. Mistakes were so high,
and there were days that you would ask me how
it looked in the courtroom when you couldn't be there yourself,
and you were for many you know, supporting us every
single day. But I was always honest with you. I said,
I don't know, I'm nervous, I'm worried. And you know,
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you can know you have a perfect case. You could
know your client did nothing wrong. But we were hailed
into the worst states, in the worst ags and the
worst das. We had DOJ officials coming in fighting against us,
and it is a blessing. And I think that's why
the energy here is so tremendous, and that's why it
was kind of an easy ask. I thought back, and
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I remember talking to my family and saying, I'm not
sure what to do. But when the president asks you
to serve, and I serve at the pleasure of the
President for the American people, you do so. And you know,
you can say you're a patriot all you want. You
can fight the fight. But when it comes time to
really put in the work as we did the last
four years and we're about to do for the next
four there is no better example than President Trump. I mean,
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the man's been through true hell true, I mean it
really has been.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I want to transition a little bit into this phase
one of the Epstein Files, but I do want to
set up a caveat One of the signature reasons for
I believe for the success of the show is that
we don't rush to judgment, and we wait for all
the facts to come in, and we do believe in
the presumption of innocence before being proven guilty. When it
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comes to the Epstein case, names have come up in
the past, like let's see Prince Andrew and who else
for crying out loud, Bill Clinton and Bill Gates, and
those names have come up, but it doesn't mean that
they did anything wrong. So I want to be very
clear in this phase one what we are discovering in
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what Pam Bondi, an FBI director Cashptello released, shows they
believe they've identified two hundred and fifty four victims, many
of them under age. And then there is a list
of famous people's names on the list, not that they
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have done anything wrong, but they had contact with this
guy Epstein, including like Alec Baldwin and Mayor Bloomberg, Ellie Wizzelle,
Naomi Campbell, Angie Dickinson.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Am I correct in that.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Yeah, they're exactly right there, and the American people should
be very careful of this, and you're absolutely right to
raise caution. So there were flight logs that were released
those obviously have names of individuals. We released a list
of items that have been seized, and we're seized exhibits,
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things of that nature, photograph, but you will not see
the actual exhibits. Obviously. We are still a Department of Justice,
still has active cases that they need to pursue, and
we cannot provide everything. Also for the anonymity of the victims,
frankly first and foremost, and then there's a rolodex attack,
things like United airline lines, to security people, any contacts
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that he has, those are really the tranches of the
first phase of dump. But we did say we would
we would show it. We have shown it. Nobody should
be assumed to have been partaking an illegal activity just
because they're on a list in a rolodex. Of course,
I mean I have two thousand contacts. That doesn't mean
that if I do something wrong, they've done something wrong.
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But there's flight logs and information that a lot of
people wanted to see, and we are transparent. We have
a Department of Justice that now operates as a Department
of Justice that will vet and proceed with caution, but
with vigor.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
And that's the plan, and we'll talk to Marsha Blackburn's
and pushing very hard for this to be released. If
nothing else, this guy seems to have sought out people
that are famous and people that have money. And it's
not but it's it's not the rush to judgment that
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just because their name shows up that they're on a
flight log and they flew on his plane, that they've
done anything wrong in any way, shape, matter or form.
However they they certainly I would hope would want to
know when you identify two hundred and fifty four victims,
and some of them are underage, and you have personal,
firsthand knowledge of a flight and what you might have
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seen might be valuable information to the FBI because the
previous FBI under Director Ray, and my understanding is they
have video footage, I r S records and that the
FBI previously forwarded the effort to be transparent. And again,
I'm just looking for those people. I'm just assuming they're innocent,
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and I'm but I but I think it's important for
the investigation part of it to find out, you know,
what did they know, what did they see, and you know,
what was their relationship with them, et cetera. And I'd
also like to get to the bottom of how he
committed suicide with a bed that was close to the
ground the way he did, and why the cameras weren't working,
why the prison guards that were supposed to be there
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just were mi ia at the time when it was needed.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Yeah. I agree. Look, lucky for us, Galine is very
much alive and in prison. I do have questions about
the way he died, as every American curiosity and skepticism. Frankly,
like you said, I am not rushing to judge anybody,
but I do think that we have to do we
have to go through the process, and we have to
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do so in a way that makes Americans feel safe again,
makes Americans feel Americans feel like we're not just going
to target you because you're some rich guy that was
on a Rolodex, but more importantly, that we are going
to target when we do find that people were raping minors,
that we will hold them accountable. That is, there is
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no excuse if that is discovered, if there is an
evidence to bring a case, I assume that Pam BONDI
will do.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
So you agree with me, This guy seem like a starchaser.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Yeah, one hundred percent. Actually, it's funny you said that.
I read it, and I was like, okay, you know, starchaser.
Chaser was not the word I used, but yeah, one
hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Well it's not the one I'm going to use, but
that I'm using in my head even but you know,
it is radio and there's an FCC out there that
would probably find me.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
I find you, shut me down, be canceled. No, the
reality is yet, No, it actually does appear that way.
He obviously liked to take photographs of celebrities. We know
that this guy anybody with a sick thickness like his,
And really I don't say that to excuse his behavior,
but this was a sick, sick man anybody, and frankly
Galaine as well, right there with him, who was brokering
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young children for trafficking, which is actually going to be
a primary portion of my focus here in the White House,
in my portfolio. They have a special place in hell
for people like that. And if you partook in that knowingly,
and you were going on trips solely for the reason
or for any part of the reason to have sex
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with miners on an island remotely and think that you
were going to pay with that, that is not happening
in this country. But you know him liking famous people, Sure,
him wanting to hang out with famous people. Sure, we
see it all the time. It's funny. It's usually people
with power that like to be around people with more power,
people with more money, people that can get them photographs.
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And this guy definitely kept a sort of I think,
look from what I've seen from the paintings hanging in
his home that we know he had, you know, painting
of Bill Clinton, an address right in his entry. He
obviously had a fascination and an infatuation with famous people.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
That's why I say don't rush to judgment, because he
probably sought them out and then probably those people, you know,
were impressed that quote, the fact that he had as
much money as he did. Alena, we do appreciate your time.
I know you're busy, and man, what what what? What
a rocking shock in all time. It's Benson's inauguration day,
(31:10):
and what a great honor it must be for you
and everybody there to be a part of that history.
And watching it is just makes me smile every day
because the alternative was not a good one.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Uh, Alena Habba, we appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
And we've come a long way from the courtroom messages
we were talking about, so yeah, to be alive.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Well, so and so says this duror looks favorable.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
And You're like, hell no, and I always said, I
was like, nope, nope.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Don't believe it.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
I'm like, anyway, we appreciate Alena Habba eight hundred and
nine four one Sewan, if you want to be a
part of the program. Greg Jarrett's take on this when
we get back all right when we come back, we'll
get Greg Jared's take on the administration, the Epstein files,
and much more.
All right, thank you Scott Shannon, and thanks to all
of you for being with us. Right down our toll
free telephone number if you want to be a part
of the program. As always, there is plenty of news
that is going on. We'll get to some of this
layer an incredible Oval Office presser with Keir Starmer, who
is the British Prime Minister and President Trump and covering
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a wide variety of topics.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
It was so good.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I think we're going to play a lot of it
coming up later in the show. We just have so
much news that is breaking today now. I want to
be very clear as we begin. I guess phase one,
if you will, or part one of the Epstein files
are now. They're out there and are being released. I've
(00:46):
had a conversation with Marshall Blackburn, and Marshall Blackburn has
been one of the loudest voices of people that have
been looking for these files to be opened. She's been
very critical of the FBI. I apparently the FBI has
video footage and IRS records, and she believes the FBI
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is thwarted again. The FBI under Biden and Harris, the
effort to be transparent and the saddest part of this
is these files today reveal two hundred and fifty four
what they believe to be two hundred and fifty four
victims quote messuses, some of them they believe underage, and
(01:29):
those names will be redacted obviously and rightly. So now
we have known a lot about names that have been
mentioned and people that have been associated with Epstein for
a long time, like Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Prince Andrew.
You know, remember President Trump. Yeah, there's a picture of
President Trump from years and years ago with Epstein. But
(01:52):
when he became a member of mar A Lago and
he found out how he was treating people, he threw
him out of the club, uh and and wanted nothing
to do with him. This guy seems on every level
to have been somebody that wants to be around wealthy
and famous people. And so I think it's very important
(02:13):
that you understand that what Pam Bondi is doing, she's
releasing flight logs, a lot of names, et cetera. And
basically this will will be a first step in terms
of creating a roadmap where law enforcement and includes law
enforcement notes as well as my understanding, so that they
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can take this and find out how deep this, this
this whole corrupt you know, sex trafficking scandal goes, and
who might be involved and who may not be involved.
And when you hear you know names, you know you've
got to Also. One of the things that I think
has been signature in the show, and I kind of
said this in this media interview that I did, is
(02:57):
on this show, we don't rush to judgment. Just because
somebody flew on Jeffrey Epstein's plane does not mean that
they're guilty of anything. The only thing I would argue,
and everybody is presumed innocent, you don't rush to judgment.
We're not going to do that here. However, the good
news is with the release of names, I would like
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to think that if the people whose names, some of
which I will mention to you that you know again,
you give them the presumption of innocence, I hope they
will be cooperative with the FBI and with Attorney General
Pam Bondi and give up whatever information that they have.
It is I think it is critical, especially when you're
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talking about victims and underage victims, and the numbers that
we're talking about now sex trafficking is one hundred and
fifty billion dollars a year business. There are that many sick, ugly, evil,
twisted people in the world. So I think that everybody
that that maybe Epstein worked his way into their world
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are guilty. I do not, but you know, I think
they do owe it to the end. They don't know
what to the public if they don't want to. I know,
if it was me, I would want it out there
and say, the guy said he was flying the same
place I was flying, so I took a ride and
I was playing big deal.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
That would not be a big deal.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
But you know, I noticed that Mayor Bloomberg's name is
in today's first file. Do I think Mayor Bloomberg is
was involved with Epstein? I have no way of knowing.
My gut tells me no. I have no idea. Or
Ellie Wizzelle or Naomi Campbell or Angie Dickinson or Alec Baldwin,
(04:49):
They're all presumed innocent, and everybody needs to understand that.
I think people expected today, you know, big big bombshells.
The New York Post put out earlier today that they're
really aren't big bombshells here. But what we are learning
is the extent. I mean, you had former President Clinton,
Bill Gates, Prince Andrew who his career ended up ending
(05:12):
in disgrace, and some other people and all of this information.
Hopefully we'll get to the bottom of it. We never got
to the bottom. This is phase one and there's going
to be other phases and other information that will be
public and over time, hopefully a full picture will emerge,
and hopefully those people that have had contact with him,
(05:33):
and that contact now in full transparencies being released. Hopefully
many of them that were not and never would have
been involved in anything like this can cooperate. It is
obvious that this guy, there is a word for that, Linda,
but you can't say it on TV. This guy love
to be around rich and famous people. There's no doubt
about that part. But the idea that it's that extensive
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should scare everybody, and anybody with a heart and a
soul I think would want to be helpful in getting
to the bottom of what they knew, when they knew it,
what they saw, you know, at any point where they
ever alarmed, And hopefully and then I'd like to know
what happened, you know, with this suicide when he hung
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himself from a bed that was low to the ground
and the cameras just happened to be not working that day,
and the prison guards just weren't working at that moment.
It seems a little too convenient for me. But do
I know anything for sure? I do not, And we
don't want to get over our skis, and we won't
get over our skis. So anyway, we'll get into this more.
(06:42):
We'll check in with Elena Habba coming up, one source said.
The person said the unveiling would be a disappointment to
sleuths that are eager for bombshell new evidence about the
you know, the billionaire psycho connection to prominent political and
business leaders. Anyway, the client list included is in the
(07:03):
initial release, which was compiled compiled into binders described as
Phase one of the Epstein files.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Copies of the binder circulated.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I just believe in transparency and what they do with
it from there is going to be part of what
the DOJ and the FBI hopefully we'll get to the
bottom of and you know, hopefully these girls can get justice.
And if you have any information, or if anybody has
any information, they have to make sure the identity is
protected in their personal information. Of the two hundred and
(07:35):
fifty four victims that we're talking about here, as if
the Department of Justice would release a list of the
clients it's sitting on my desk. Now, that's that's been
a directive of President Trump. You know, still nobody really
knew what this guy did for work. We just knew
that he was filthy rich. Of course, the Lolita Express
and everything else that has been public now for a
(07:57):
long time, and hopefully soon thereafter we'll get to the bottom.
We'll get the release of the JFK files, the RFK files,
the MLK files. Why has all of this been hidden
from the public since the nineteen sixties. Tell me, tell
me why that makes sense in any way, And the
answer is obvious, it does not. Trump's Education Department is
(08:22):
investigating civil rights violations ignored by Joe Biden. Nearly one
hundred anti Semitic violence and harassment cases not resolved under
the Biden administration. Almost seventy of them occurred after the
Hamas attack on Israel and related to elementary secondary post
secondary schools. According to the Trump Department of Education, they
(08:45):
announced these investigations, which I'm glad this cabinet meeting has
gone very very viral from yesterday and that the government
shrinking efforts will now go all across government. Will get
into more detail on that, and achieving a trillion dollar
debt reduction requires savings of four billion dollars a day
(09:06):
from now until the end of September, and Elon must
saying that we can get that done. The President went
into great specificity in detail today about what is emerging
as a deal. He doesn't want to go in his case,
get over his skis either there hasn't been a deal made.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Everybody in the media would like for President Trump to
start calling either Zelensky or putin names and assert blame, etc. Well,
first steps first, Zelenski will be at the White House
Tomorrow is going to be the establishment of this US
Ukraine Mineral Fund. The President emphasized with the British Prime
(09:46):
Minister today that that will mean that there is going
to be a US presidence there. You know from Emmanuel
Macrone that they're willing to put troops inside of Ukraine
to help with the safety, security and rebuilding efforts. The
mineral deal will also be a fifty to fifty deal.
We're going to help America is going to help with
its technology to extract these rare earth minerals, and that
(10:10):
would first pay back America for all the money and
the weaponry that was given to Ukraine over time. But
more importantly, it will give money to Ukraine to allow
them a time and effort to rebuild. I do believe
that the US will maintain maximum you know, recognize as
US gave Ukraine a significant financial contribution. I mean it
(10:34):
almost became a proxy war. But anyway that there is
an agreement on the rare earth mineral deal, which means
that Ukraine in the United States will be closer than
they've ever been. And then of course Europe has to
do their part to protect their continent. The Poland is
scrambling air defenses as Russia strikes western Ukraine and the
(10:55):
US is flying nuclear capable B fifty two bombers off
of Russian borders on the anniversary of the invasion of Ukraine.
Does Donald Trump want an escalation of the war? No,
we all anyone with a brain wants war in Europe
and war in the Middle East to come to an end.
Are two things happening simultaneously. Russia's economy is suffering and
(11:19):
Gordon Chang made an interesting observation to John Solomon's just
Thenews dot Com that China's espionage activity against the US,
as well as the country's business and economic policies, are
designed to weaken what Beijing sees as their chief rival.
The American people need to understand the nature of the challenge.
China wants to take down the US because they believe
(11:40):
we are an existential threat. And Chang told just the
News that China's reported economic growth of five percent is
probably inflated and that President Chi and his refusal to
rely on domestic consumption means that there is a potential
for tariffs that would have a significant effect. And Donald
Trump addressed the issue of a reciprocal tariffs once again
(12:01):
today and that is going to be a big component
in preventing countries from taking advantage of US. We had
a caller from Canada the other day, and I want
to be friends with Canada. I like Canada, but if
the people of Canada, you know, rely on the United
States for the bulk of their national security and defense,
(12:23):
and then they're not paying their fair share to NATO,
and they're not doing enough to control their borders and
stop the influx of illegal immigrants and drugs into our country,
then they're not being good neighbors. And the idea that
America is even giving them, you know, billions of dollars
on an annual basis. Why are we giving them billions
of dollars? Why did they have tariffs on a lot
(12:44):
of American products like dairy and you know, agriculture and poultry,
et cetera. They won't allow American seeds to be imported
into their country. Why why are they putting tariffs on
our products? I mean, the idea if you want if
you believe in free and fair trade, then you believe
in free and fair trade. It's really that simple anyway.
(13:07):
So we're going to get into all of that. There's
a lot of coverage today of Gene Hackman and his
wife have been found dead. I'm not exactly sure what's
going on there. Anyway, we got a lot of ground
to cover today. We will cover it all. We will
also get in your calls. Eight hundred and ninety four one,
Shawn is our number. Look at all the they keep
(13:29):
finding Trump's hut. Secretary Scott Turner announced that he was
eliminating costly Obama and Biden era federal zoning rules that
Trump worn would destroy suburban neighborhoods. The affirmatively the affirmatively
furthering fair housing rule conditioned millions of dollars worth of
(13:50):
community block grants from hud on the completion of a
lengthy demographic analysis. To get money, localities had to certify
that there were no disparities by ray, religion, sex, nationality, disability,
and it goes on and on and on, and basically
his racial quotas as far as I interpret it and.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
The New York Post interpreted it.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Lee Zelden says over one thousand employees have already left
the agency. He thinks he can cut the EPA by
sixty five percent in terms of hiring. Trump is ordering
a thirty day freeze on government credit cards spending, which
is great. This comes a week after DOZE discovered nearly
forty billion in spending last year linked to issued plastic
(14:36):
to employees. The Biden Treasury Department admitted they sent at
least thirty one million dollars in social Security checks to
dead people. Thirty one million. Oh, no need for Doze.
The Trump State Department has identified sixty billion dollars in
grants that could be eliminated. Thank goodness, John Roberts stopped
(14:57):
this court order on foreign payments by a lower Biden
appointed judge.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
I mean, it's just unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
But in this case, Trump State Department completed their review
of US foreign aid. And this is under Marco Rubio,
fifteen thousand dollars worth of grand sixty million dollars for elimination.
And it's all the same crap, all right, twenty five
now till the top of the hour, eight hundred and
nine to four one. Shawn is on number. If you
want to be a part of the program. I'd love
(15:26):
to cook, if I find it relaxing. I cook every meal.
I'm very Keto friendly, mostly meat and eggs. By the way,
price eggs are going up, although the Agricultural Secretary did
say that they are coming up of the plan for
at least in the short term to import eggs because
this is more related not to inflation but the ABM
(15:46):
flu issue. But I love to cook. I love to
cook meat, I love to cook fish. I love to
cook it all. I started as a cook in a
restaurant I was thirteen. I wish I had chef. I
Q since I wouldn't have made as many mistakes as
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your family, they're all going to think that you went
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They're all going to want you to cook and you're
(16:51):
gonna enjoy doing it because you're going to be the
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and you get a fifteen percent discount. But I wish
I'd thought of this product, I really do. Is that amazing?
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Anyway? Anything anyone there, Linda or.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
No, they will be her momentarily.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Eight hundred nine four one Shawn is a number if
you want to be a part of the program. Alena
Hobb is gonna check in with us. We're gonna get
an update from her on the Epstein file Phase one
release from earlier today, and again I want to put
emphasis on we don't rush to judgment. Just because somebody's
name is mentioned as having flown on the plane or
(17:35):
whatever does not mean that they knew or were guilty
of anything. It just gives it gives the FBI and
the dj a roadmap, hopefully to learn more information to
get to the bottom of what they have identified in
this Phase one report today two hundred and fifty four,
what they believe to be victims, what they're calling victims,
and get to the bottom of it. I mean I
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would hope we can, you know, agree that that's a
good thing. But it doesn't mean just because somebody's name
is on it that they're guilty of anything. This guy
seems like he was obsessed with celebrity and obsessed with money.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
That's the one takeaway.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
And in the course of my life, I have noticed
that there are people, Yeah, you kind of figure out
over time. M maybe they really only like me because
I am a public figure.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I've had that happen. Linda, You've seen that happen.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
We've discussed that many times, number of times, and it's frustrating.
I mean, I just try to be nice to everybody and.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Be a good christ. That was your first mistake. Why
being nice as a first Are you backsliding again?
Speaker 4 (18:43):
See?
Speaker 3 (18:43):
The unique thing about me is that I actually stay
in one spot, you know, like I get listen, I
think the president's doing a great job. He's being nice
to everybody. I wouldn't be nice to this Prime minister,
not for one second.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
And well, I mean, you know, I know everybody wants
him to just like drop bombs on everyone one's head
all the time.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Well, actually JD Evans did do it. I have to
give to JD some credit.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
I did see JD talked about the freedom of speech restrictions. Uh,
and we'll get to this and play some of it later.
But the freedom of speech restrictions in Europe and how
it does impact American companies. I mean, they have free
speech laws all over Europe now and it's it's gotten insane,
absolutely crazy. Anyway, we welcome our friend Alena Hamba back
(19:28):
to the program. I thought, at one point you said, now, Sean,
I'm not going into the White House.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Now you went in.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
You remember saying that to me, right, You're one percent correct.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
I said that famously.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
But I will tell you because when I was there
to interview the president in the Oval office, I got
to see you and Dan Scavino in Scavino's office, and
it is really great to know that people like yourself
and Dan and everybody there. I don't I'm going to
miss a million names that you guys are there, and
that you do it at you know, great personal cost
(20:05):
and sacrifice financially and an opportunity costs and the expense
of maintaining two homes in many cases, and up rooting
your kids and sending them to the new schools.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
It's hard to do.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Yeah, I'm actually away from my kids, and that adds
another layer of it. But it is the ultimate sacrifice.
It is really not the ultimate sacrifice, but it is
a sacrifice that I am proud to be endeavoring on.
And you're right. I told you many times at Mari Lago.
I remember selling right right like you said it. I said, Sean,
(20:38):
I'm not going in. I'm going to go to the
keeping the private sector. And you said, okay, I'm a here.
I am famous last words. But it's so nice.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
I kind of suspected you might. He's pretty persuasive. You
gotta admit, if you know him personally, he is very persuasive.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
The art of the deal, the art of the deal, Sean,
It's funny. I haven't spoken about this, but I remember
I thought Susie archiefs of staff at Marijuaga. One evening,
they were doing transition meetings and I was having dinner
with my family and she caught me in the lobby
of the club and said, Alena can go in and
speak to the president. And I said why, She said,
(21:14):
just go in and speak to the president. And I
walk in and there's screens everywhere the transition teams sitting there,
you know, Howard Lutnik was there and many other members,
and the President looked at me and he said, so,
what are you going to do in the White House?
And I said, no, sir, I'm not going. And he
said and why are you not going? And I gave
him my reasons, and he said, so what are you
(21:36):
going to do for me in the White House? And
it was you know, you're negotiating with the best negotiator.
But it was a blessing. Everything he's pushed me to
do has been so tremendous, and I just hope I
can give this country one ounce of what they deserve
in my time here.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Well, I'm sure you will.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
I mean the fact that there were different times I'd
interview you and it looked dire with dealing with the
law fair and the weaponization and all these different cases,
and you and other attorneys were juggling them all, and
I remember, you know, I'd expressed to you my concerns
(22:18):
about that. I really feel he put it all on
the line in terms of this. It was either the
White House or they would have tried to put him
in jail, and I think they probably would have been successful.
Do you think I'm wrong?
Speaker 4 (22:31):
No, I think you and I had some of the
most frank conversations. That's why I value our friendship. But
we always were very honest with each other throughout the
last four years of hell. And really there is no
other way than excite. It was war. It was a
different kind of war, but it was war, and we
were fighting for his safety, for the American people, for
(22:53):
our country, and for his family and his livelihood, of course,
but it affected such a bigger thing. Mistakes were so high,
and there were days that you would ask me how
it looked in the courtroom when you couldn't be there yourself,
and you were for many you know, supporting us every
single day. But I was always honest with you. I said,
I don't know, I'm nervous, I'm worried. And you know,
(23:16):
you can know you have a perfect case. You could
know your client did nothing wrong. But we were hailed
into the worst states, in the worst ags and the
worst das. We had DOJ officials coming in fighting against us,
and it is a blessing. And I think that's why
the energy here is so tremendous, and that's why it
was kind of an easy ask. I thought back, and
(23:36):
I remember talking to my family and saying, I'm not
sure what to do. But when the president asks you
to serve, and I serve at the pleasure of the
President for the American people, you do so. And you know,
you can say you're a patriot all you want. You
can fight the fight. But when it comes time to
really put in the work as we did the last
four years and we're about to do for the next
four there is no better example than President Trump. I mean,
(23:58):
the man's been through true hell true, I mean it
really has been.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I want to transition a little bit into this phase
one of the Epstein Files, but I do want to
set up a caveat One of the signature reasons for
I believe for the success of the show is that
we don't rush to judgment, and we wait for all
the facts to come in, and we do believe in
the presumption of innocence before being proven guilty. When it
(24:26):
comes to the Epstein case, names have come up in
the past, like let's see Prince Andrew and who else
for crying out loud, Bill Clinton and Bill Gates, and
those names have come up, but it doesn't mean that
they did anything wrong. So I want to be very
clear in this phase one what we are discovering in
(24:48):
what Pam Bondi, an FBI director Cashptello released, shows they
believe they've identified two hundred and fifty four victims, many
of them under age. And then there is a list
of famous people's names on the list, not that they
(25:09):
have done anything wrong, but they had contact with this
guy Epstein, including like Alec Baldwin and Mayor Bloomberg, Ellie Wizzelle,
Naomi Campbell, Angie Dickinson.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Am I correct in that.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Yeah, they're exactly right there, and the American people should
be very careful of this, and you're absolutely right to
raise caution. So there were flight logs that were released
those obviously have names of individuals. We released a list
of items that have been seized, and we're seized exhibits,
(25:42):
things of that nature, photograph, but you will not see
the actual exhibits. Obviously. We are still a Department of Justice,
still has active cases that they need to pursue, and
we cannot provide everything. Also for the anonymity of the victims,
frankly first and foremost, and then there's a rolodex attack,
things like United airline lines, to security people, any contacts
(26:03):
that he has, those are really the tranches of the
first phase of dump. But we did say we would
we would show it. We have shown it. Nobody should
be assumed to have been partaking an illegal activity just
because they're on a list in a rolodex. Of course,
I mean I have two thousand contacts. That doesn't mean
that if I do something wrong, they've done something wrong.
(26:26):
But there's flight logs and information that a lot of
people wanted to see, and we are transparent. We have
a Department of Justice that now operates as a Department
of Justice that will vet and proceed with caution, but
with vigor.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
And that's the plan, and we'll talk to Marsha Blackburn's
and pushing very hard for this to be released. If
nothing else, this guy seems to have sought out people
that are famous and people that have money. And it's
not but it's it's not the rush to judgment that
(27:02):
just because their name shows up that they're on a
flight log and they flew on his plane, that they've
done anything wrong in any way, shape, matter or form.
However they they certainly I would hope would want to
know when you identify two hundred and fifty four victims,
and some of them are underage, and you have personal,
firsthand knowledge of a flight and what you might have
(27:27):
seen might be valuable information to the FBI because the
previous FBI under Director Ray, and my understanding is they
have video footage, I r S records and that the
FBI previously forwarded the effort to be transparent. And again,
I'm just looking for those people. I'm just assuming they're innocent,
(27:48):
and I'm but I but I think it's important for
the investigation part of it to find out, you know,
what did they know, what did they see, and you know,
what was their relationship with them, et cetera. And I'd
also like to get to the bottom of how he
committed suicide with a bed that was close to the
ground the way he did, and why the cameras weren't working,
why the prison guards that were supposed to be there
(28:09):
just were mi ia at the time when it was needed.
Speaker 4 (28:14):
Yeah. I agree. Look, lucky for us, Galine is very
much alive and in prison. I do have questions about
the way he died, as every American curiosity and skepticism. Frankly,
like you said, I am not rushing to judge anybody,
but I do think that we have to do we
have to go through the process, and we have to
(28:36):
do so in a way that makes Americans feel safe again,
makes Americans feel Americans feel like we're not just going
to target you because you're some rich guy that was
on a Rolodex, but more importantly, that we are going
to target when we do find that people were raping minors,
that we will hold them accountable. That is, there is
(28:57):
no excuse if that is discovered, if there is an
evidence to bring a case, I assume that Pam BONDI
will do.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
So you agree with me, This guy seem like a starchaser.
Speaker 4 (29:08):
Yeah, one hundred percent. Actually, it's funny you said that.
I read it, and I was like, okay, you know, starchaser.
Chaser was not the word I used, but yeah, one
hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Well it's not the one I'm going to use, but
that I'm using in my head even but you know,
it is radio and there's an FCC out there that
would probably find me.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
I find you, shut me down, be canceled. No, the
reality is yet, No, it actually does appear that way.
He obviously liked to take photographs of celebrities. We know
that this guy anybody with a sick thickness like his,
And really I don't say that to excuse his behavior,
but this was a sick, sick man anybody, and frankly
Galaine as well, right there with him, who was brokering
(29:49):
young children for trafficking, which is actually going to be
a primary portion of my focus here in the White House,
in my portfolio. They have a special place in hell
for people like that. And if you partook in that knowingly,
and you were going on trips solely for the reason
or for any part of the reason to have sex
(30:10):
with miners on an island remotely and think that you
were going to pay with that, that is not happening
in this country. But you know him liking famous people, Sure,
him wanting to hang out with famous people. Sure, we
see it all the time. It's funny. It's usually people
with power that like to be around people with more power,
people with more money, people that can get them photographs.
(30:30):
And this guy definitely kept a sort of I think,
look from what I've seen from the paintings hanging in
his home that we know he had, you know, painting
of Bill Clinton, an address right in his entry. He
obviously had a fascination and an infatuation with famous people.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
That's why I say don't rush to judgment, because he
probably sought them out and then probably those people, you know,
were impressed that quote, the fact that he had as
much money as he did. Alena, we do appreciate your time.
I know you're busy, and man, what what what? What
a rocking shock in all time. It's Benson's inauguration day,
(31:10):
and what a great honor it must be for you
and everybody there to be a part of that history.
And watching it is just makes me smile every day
because the alternative was not a good one.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
Uh, Alena Habba, we appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
And we've come a long way from the courtroom messages
we were talking about, so yeah, to be alive.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
Well, so and so says this duror looks favorable.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
And You're like, hell no, and I always said, I
was like, nope, nope.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Don't believe it.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
I'm like, anyway, we appreciate Alena Habba eight hundred and
nine four one Sewan, if you want to be a
part of the program. Greg Jarrett's take on this when
we get back all right when we come back, we'll
get Greg Jared's take on the administration, the Epstein files,
and much more.
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