Bringing America Back to Life - April 15th, Hour 2

Newt Gingrich, Former Speaker of the House and best selling author, talks to us about judicial activism, China’s retaliation and President Trump’s plan to bring America back to life. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thanks got on an hour two Sean Hannity Show told
free it is eight hundred and nine to four one
Sean if you want to be a part of the
programmer right, the Trump tariff effect, we're now officially at
eight trillion dollars committed investments for the next four years
for manufacturing inside the United States, and you know everything

(00:21):
from Apple, the announcement yesterday from Navidia, and very interestingly,
and I brought this up yesterday that you know, the
number of American cars sold in to the European Union
is about eight point nine billion dollars a year. Sounds
like a lot of money, but then when you compare
it to the number of cars from the European Union

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that we buy in America, it's nearly fifty billion dollars.
And one of the main reasons is that Europe has
a ten percent tariff on any automobile imports from America
and we only have a two point five percent tariff,
or had a two point five percent tariff. Now the
President is raising it. And secondarily, they have a VAT
tax of value added tax, a national sales tax, and

(01:05):
that's another twenty percent, which adds a whopping thirty percent
to the final sticker price of an American car, never
mind the shipping costs that is sold to the European Union.
Now we not only have gone through we went through
Navidia News yesterday and all the other committed investments from
countries and companies in Apple and too many to name

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and list right now. And I've scrolled that on TV many,
many times. But now these overseas companies, along with one
hundred and thirty countries now looking to make deals with
the Trump administration. My hope is the President will keep
it simple, give every country the option free and fair
trade or reciprocal tariffs. And other issues like selling oil

(01:47):
or currency manipulation or unfair trade practices or trade deficits
you know, I think could be dealt with separately, and
that'll be part of ongoing negotiations. But for fifty sixty years,
we have had nothing but establishment and institutionalized thinking in Washington,
and we have allowed this ripping off of America to continue,

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even with many of our allied countries. It's got to
come to an end. Somebody has to draw a line
in the sand. Now, the number of overseas companies that
are looking to shift their operations to the US to
mitigate the impact of the President's tariffs. The number is
growing dramatically. BMW, for example, now considering adding shifts to
their Spartanburg plant in South Carolina to boost output by

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eighty thousand units. And Honda, the Japanese car maker, they
planned to move some car production from Mexico to Canada.
We've talked about that, as say, within Nissan their aim
is to make ninety percent of cars sold in the
country inside of America. Hyuendi, we talked about their multi
multi tens of billions of dollars that they're going to

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invest in the US, and they are committed now to
building their vehicles and even building a new factory in Georgia.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
They said.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Anyway, here for his analysis of all of it is
former Speaker of the House, New King Rich. Because you're
my older brother, I know that you absolutely knowing you
so well or not in freak out mode like so
many other establishment institutionalists in Washington, d C. And you
yourself a disruptor and not an iconoclass when you were

(03:24):
the Speaker, and I imagine that you fully expected this
to happen.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
But let's see how it plays out.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
No.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Well, I just came back from six days in South Korea,
and the businessmen I talked with there were very basically calm.
They said, look, we're going to negotiate. You know, the
United States is extraordinarily important to the survival of South Korea,
and we're going to find ways to work with the president.
And I think from their standpoint, what you're seeing is

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a profound shift from a deal that have been struck
really right after the collapse the Soviet Union, in a
sense that we could open up the American market and
get ripped off every morning, and people like the Chinese
were eager to command to it. And as you pointed
out about the Europeans, I mean, the entire European model,
both on defense and on trade, relied on basically being

(04:17):
able to rip off the Americans and that we were
going to be passive enough and pleasant enough that we
would tolerate it. And I think Trump in that sense clearly,
just as domestically, I think he is the end of
the Roosevelt era after ninety years. I think in international
relations he is going to be setting up a very

(04:37):
different regime where the United States is going to be
pretty tough about making sure promises are kept and making
sure that we don't get ripped off. And I think
this is overdue, and I think that there's gonna be turmoil.
I mean, let's be clear, there's gonna be a period
here where mistakes will be made. Will be a period
where you'll negotiate and the Trump models always to go

(04:57):
way out and have a huge demand and then work
your way back to a deal, and the uncertainties will
be real. But my hunch is that long before the
end of this year, you will get people begin to
realize massive increase in American investment, massive increase in American jobs,
and that most of them are going to be high paying,
really good manufacturing jobs. And the choice of American people simple,

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you know, which do you value more, really good jobs
in America or the right to buy really cheap products
from China. And the Chinese, I think are initially running
a bluff. Their economy is too small to go head
to head with us and have any hope in the
long run of succeeding. And they, much like the Germans,
they rely unbelievably heavily on ex sports and these markets

(05:47):
closed down for them, They're going to have a very,
very hard time with their own economy domestically over the
next five to ten years.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
All right, let me ask you specifically about China. And
you know, I went through the absolute You know, there
is not a single product manufactured in America that they
don't put massive tariffs on, and they create huge barriers
for American products to be sold in China. And they
have been ripping us off and taking advantage of us forever.

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And now they're trying to insult us and actually suggest
that we are peasants here in the US and that
we would wail in front of the five thousand years
of Chinese civilization, which is okay. I mean I can
take a good insult as well as anybody. But then
China suspended their rare earth exports, trying to kneecap US

(06:38):
industry relying on Beijing's monopoly because about ninety percent of
the parts. They halted an order that they had for
Boeing jets, And in many ways, this might be the
moment where America has a major wake up call that
we have been too reliant. COVID should have been the
wake up call because we realized that so many of
our pharmaceuticals were being produced in China, and they're not

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a reliable partner, and they inflicted COVID on the entire world.
Light about it the whole time with the health of
with the help of the World's Health Organization, And this
now is an issue for as far as I'm concerned
in national security, especially when it comes to semiconductor investment,
and we see massive hundreds of billions now being invested
in that. I think in the end this might be

(07:25):
the best thing for national security and for the economy.

Speaker 4 (07:28):
I just got a note a little while ago from
somebody who know well Congress, from Bob Walker, who used
to share the Science and Technology Committee. He's working with
the group right now, and they think within six months
they'll have solved the entire rare earth problem with China.
And what the Chinese are going to do is they're
going to force us to go out and innovate and invest.
But there's nothing that we get from China that we

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can't ultimately generate here at home. And I think that
that's what part of this fight's all about. And I
think we're seeing now they're almost in a temper tantrum.
I mean, they can you know, they can get in
a big fight with bully and get an aucers of
lawsuits over whether or not they're going to, you know,
legally pay for things they've contracted for. But in the

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long run, we make the best equipment in the world,
and we make the most advanced technology in the world.
And the truth is, if you took the amount of
money in intellectual properties by stealing from our various companies
and stealing from our university and government laboratories, that amount

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annually has been stunning and as a major factor in
the rise of China. And as we get tougher about
this stuff, they're going to suddenly find that they're going
to be cut off from many of the sources of
technology that they'd relied on for the last twenty five years.

Speaker 1 (08:48):
What do you think happens with countries like the EU
and Japan and Korea and Taiwan and India. What now,
We've already seen Great Britain. Just yesterday the Prime Minister
there lifted tariffs on nearly ninety US products coming into
Great Britain, which I thought was basically the Trump effect. Again,

(09:10):
this eight trillion dollars in committed investment is real money.
That's real investment money. For this country. I think it
certainly will take a little time for this to get
into the bloodstream of the economy.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
But what will these other countries do in your view?

Speaker 4 (09:26):
Well, you know, Mark Tuson wrote a really interesting column
and said Trump may be the most effective free trader
in history. The foot he's basically said all these countries
is you want access to our market. We got to
have access to your market. You want to cut off off,
We're going to cut you off. And I see country
after country where they're coming forward.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Now.

Speaker 4 (09:46):
The Japanese Prime Minister said, look, we are not going
to retaliate. We're going to work through this. We're going
to find a way to get it done. I had
the same tone when I was in Seoul, South three
over the last five days, where their attitude was how
do we work this out? Not how do we get
in a big fight. And none of them have an
interest in shifting from being focused in the US to

(10:07):
becoming focused on the Chinese, just because the Chinese dictatorship
is frankly, so frightening and so hostile that and basically
rips people off so much that nobody wants to make
that their primary reliance.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
I agree, and President Chi can go all around the
world as he's currently doing. He's on a tour to
try and entice other countries to choose them over US.
I don't think the world sees them as a reliable partner,
especially because of their unfair trade practices. They're massive terroriffs,
they're intellectual property theft, and the fact that they're using

(10:46):
you know, sweatshop labor to produce pretty much everything that
they're producing.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
But between artificial intelligence, robotics, and a whole range of
other breakthroughs, we're going to be the most productive, the
most exciting place on the planet. And you're gonna wake
up the one who's a business person. It's okay, Do
I want to work with the Americans inventing the future
with the Europeans regulating the past, or with the Chinese

(11:10):
ripping everybody off? And I think we're going to win
that competition by a very big margin.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
I think so too.

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Now, what do you say to the naysayers, these people
on Wall Street that have been in a never ending
state of freak out ever since Donald Trump made an
announcement of settled.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Instance? Okay, do I want to work with the Americans
inventing the future with the Europeans regulating the past, or
with the Chinese ripping everybody off. And I think we're
going to win that competition by a very big margin.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
I think so too.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Now, what do you say to the naysayers, these people
on Wall Street that have been in a never ending
state of freak out ever since Donald Trump made this announcement.
Now the markets have settled with the ninety day reprieve,
but as the result, you have one hundred and thirty
countries that are begging for deals. My hope is and
the New York Post had a pretty good editorial on

(12:06):
this today, is that the President signs deal after deal
after deal, which I would equate to win after win
after win for America generally for American workers overall, and
the American economy and manufacturing and American security as well.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
I think it runs that deep.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
H That's right, And I think I'll say I remember
that you have a separatary Treasury who actually knows what
he's doing and who so far, I think has done
a really good job. And so from that standpoint, I
think that we are in a pretty good position to
expect that we're going to get a lot of deals.
And Scott Besten's done a great job so far, and

(12:47):
I think what you're going to see happen. Remember, if
you are a lot of the guys in New York
who manipulated markets, who were quite happy to close down
American factories, will you make tons of money out of children,
for example making Nike sneakers in China. This is all
an enormous shock because you know, you didn't mind weakening

(13:10):
the American economy as long as you got a lot richer.
And so I think there was a legitimate reaction from
the people who basically for the last twenty five years
have favored China over the US and how they made
their investment strategies. And they had a vision which is
sort of the Davos vision in Switzerland, of that gathering

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of billionaires that you know, they were going to somehow
be lords of the universe and the rest of us
are all peasants, which may be where the Chinese used
the word peasants yesterday, but the fact is middle.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
I want to talk about peasants, I would say maybe
they need to look inward as they they're the ones
with all the sweatshops, you know, yeah, and the oppression
of you know, all these minority groups as well.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
Well. Look, I think the fact is when you get
beyond Shanghai and Hong Kong and Beijing and you start
going into the interior, you still have a country. It's
relatively primitive and relevant and very poor, and they have
a lot of internal tensions, and I think that to
some extent, their reaction is hysteria rather than systematically thought through.

(14:23):
President Trump starts with a very simple model. This is
the biggest economy on the planet. It's the most desirable
place to be selling things, and we want to make
sure that if you're going to sell here, you're going
to build here, You're going to create jobs here. And
people are rapidly and you know, in the first three
months of his presidency, the number of jobs that have

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been committed, the number of factories that have been committed,
it's astonishing. This is rapidly going to become the biggest
construction boom, probably in American history, at least since World
War Two. And you're just going to see lots and
lots of people getting good jobs, and you're going to
see the United States once again leading the world. And
that'll be compounded by the breakthroughs and things like robotics

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and artificial intelligence, and advanced chemistry, and then for that matter,
advanced biology. We're in every one of these areas. We're
going to lead the planet pretty dramatically.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
All right, New King Rich As always, we appreciate you,
thanks for being with us. Eight hundred nine four one,
Shawn our number if you want to be a part
of the program. I see Gretchen Whitmer, I mean, it
was so weird. Gretchen Whitmer is the governor of Michigan. Michigan.
Michigan has been devastated by tariffs that have incentivized a

(15:37):
lot of companies to build their manufacturing plants auto manufacturing
plants out of the US, and then they charge massive
tariffs on any American products coming into their country, including
a lot of friendly countries, allied countries, supposedly friends like this.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Who needs enemies, right?

Speaker 1 (15:58):
And meanwhile, we provide for the national defense of many,
if not most of them. And anyway, so Gretchen Whitmer
has watched the population of Detroit, you know, literally go
in half a once great city. They're bulldozing entire neighborhoods
to consolidate neighborhoods and services. I mean there was a
period you can go on eBay and buy a home

(16:20):
in Detroit for a dollar because people wanted to get
rid of it and any tax liability that they had.
So if anybody should be concerned or happy about the
President fighting to bring back what eight trillion dollars in
investment in manufacturing back home and incentivizing Nissan and Hyende

(16:41):
and Honda and all these other auto manufacturers to build
in America, you would think it would be the people
of Michigan. And maybe they could take these mothballed, you know,
auto plants and build them back up and create high
paying career jobs. I know the UAW leaders they would
love it, and workers.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
Would love it.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
And so she goes to the White House. But she's embarrassed.
She went and she puts a literally they they're taking
a picture of her, and she covers her face. Here's
her excuse about it.

Speaker 5 (17:14):
I was the old offices yesterday.

Speaker 6 (17:15):
Well, I think you heard the young man in there.
You got to show up, right, they want to result
You got to show up.

Speaker 7 (17:22):
You're showing up in Michigan. You make you feel comfortable.

Speaker 6 (17:25):
You know, I did not know they walked me in.
I thought I was going into our private meeting, and
of course it was that press conference, but I did
have the opportunity chat with the President. As you heard
him say, there's some great things about selfridge, about protecting
the Great Lakes. And I also have the primary purposes
to talk about ice storm today. I want to talk

(17:47):
a little bit about the power of certainty.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
We could all use more of it, especially these days.
I mean, one minute you're certain you're at the White
House for a meeting, and the next you find yourself
in a press conference.

Speaker 7 (18:02):
Are you been in the news lot lately?

Speaker 8 (18:04):
You've been busy? Yeah? How was Washington?

Speaker 7 (18:08):
Did you?

Speaker 8 (18:13):
I had watched your speech that morning and I thought
it was great. I thought you had touched upon really
the high points of what's important and the ships, chips
and cars.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
Yep.

Speaker 8 (18:27):
Then about ninety minutes later or so, there was a
change in the direction.

Speaker 6 (18:31):
Of the news coverage, the news coverage.

Speaker 8 (18:35):
And the next morning I woke up and here you
are in the paper, beautiful picture of you.

Speaker 3 (18:42):
You asked me what was going through your mind at
that moment, and it was I don't want my picture taken,
That's all it was. I kind of wish I hadn't
put my folder up in front of my face.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
But whatever, I don't want my picture taken. What politician
doesn't want their picture taken in the Oval Office? Oh
that's right, only one that really is begging for help
from Donald Trump but doesn't want the world to know
about it. All right, Speaking of Michigan, we have Jennifer. Jennifer,

(19:11):
you're on the Sean Hannity Show.

Speaker 7 (19:13):
Hi, Hi, thanks for taking my call. Well, Gretchen Whitmer
is just the worst. But having her in the Oval
Office to witness President Trump signing the EO on the
twenty twenty election fraud was savage. That was such a
brilliantly calculated and deliberate move on Trump's part. And just
seeing the humiliation on Whitmer's face.

Speaker 9 (19:35):
Oh, that was gold.

Speaker 7 (19:36):
That was pure gold.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
It was pure gold.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
I mean it was hiding her face, doesn't want to
be seen there, but definitely wants the policies, needs the
policies for her own political survival.

Speaker 7 (19:49):
Oh, I don't think she's going to survive. What else
Trump has up his sleeve? And I hope ag Nessel
and Secretary of State Benson, I hope they're paying attention
because what went on in Detroit at twenty twenty election.
You know, we're not stupid where we're not blind. We
saw what went on. So we've been patient and I

(20:10):
just haven't stopped smiling since November fifth.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
So it's all going to be you know what, you
shouldn't stop smiling. And you know again, the Republican Party
now and the MAGA movement is emerging as the representatives
of hard working men and women, and the Democratic Party
is the party of woke, radical, extreme coastal elites that

(20:33):
are completely out of touch with the people that make
this country great. And I'm telling you this is this
is transformational politically, and this could change you know, this
can literally change demographics and states. If everything works out,
hopefully over time and it takes time, this could this
could dramatically shift the electorate I think for a generation

(20:58):
or more, and I hope it does. Jennifer. We appreciate you.
Glad you're out there. Eight hundred and nine four one
Shawan is a number Ralph in New Hampshire. Hey, Ralph,
how are you glad you called?

Speaker 9 (21:07):
Hey? Hey, Sean, thank you for taking my call. I
was going to talk to you about Tarris. You know,
I look at tarifs as some of the products that
Chine ourselves and everything. They're going to be stuck with
that stuff. So it'll be like a reverse boycott, so
to speak. I don't know if you can remember the
boycotts back in the day. People don't buy things, and
guess what, they get stuck with the product and eventually

(21:27):
they have to sell it to somebody because he can't
sit on it. And hopefully that'll happen and prices will
come down and a lot of products if this keeps
going on.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, well, I'm just telling you right now it is.
China now has gotten so aggressive and so confrontational, and
let them do that. And I actually agreed with the
New York Post editorial today. Let the president now go
forward with other countries, allied countries, there are one hundred
and thirty plus of them, and sign deal after deal

(21:59):
after a deal, free or fair, free and fair trade
or reciprocal tariffs. That's going to be up to them.
They can deal with other financial issues. One of the
big ones to me would be selling American energy to
these countries abroad that desperately needed for national security reasons.
And let's see, let's see how this plays out. I
would bet that Chinaese needs access to our markets. And

(22:24):
if China wants to keep playing hardball, let them try.
But they picked the fight with the wrong guy. And
President Chi can go around the world all they want.
The world doesn't trust China and they don't trust him.
You know, earlier in the program, I can give you
the list and go through it again and again and
again of all of the all of the things that

(22:44):
China is hitting us with massive tariffs on and they
have basically they've been in a tariff war against us,
and we've taken it, and they've been abusive in it.
And I think it's time for America to not be
abused anymore and not be ripped off anymore. And China,

(23:04):
in spite of what they're posturing, is going to have
to come to the table at some point or America
will just emerge as the world's economic leader. Now, in
the end, there might be look, there might be a
short period of time where there's a lot, there's some
pain and transitional you know, difficulties. But frankly, they're not

(23:25):
a reliable partner. I don't want our pharmaceuticals produced in China.
I don't want our semiconductor chips produced in China, and
there are other partners we can you know, we can
deal with that, will manufacture and deal with rare earth
minerals and everything else that we're going to need. America
will have options and does have options, and we're going

(23:46):
to use them.

Speaker 9 (23:47):
Yeah sounds good.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
All right, my friend, God bless your Ralph and live
free or die? All right?

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Quick break right back to our phones. Eight hundred and
nine point one, Sean, if you want to be a
part of the program as we continue, the left is trying.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
To extinguish conservative voices, and he's.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Fighting fire with fire, standing up for your beliefs.

Speaker 5 (24:13):
It's Sean Hannity on the air right now.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
I love to get back up busy phones. Eight hundred
and nine four one. Shawn is our number. Jim Wisconsin, Jim,
how are you glad you called?

Speaker 8 (24:30):
Hey?

Speaker 5 (24:30):
Sean, Thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (24:34):
The points I want to bring up is the Democrats
are always fighting voter id and term limits. People should
have to ask themselves why when it would just as
likely affect a Republican politician as well. Case in point,
DeSantis can't run again. His term ends in twenty twenty

(24:58):
seven where it's fair all the way around, and I
don't know why anybody would be fighting those two ideas.
One other thing I want to bring up is I
moved three years ago to Wisconsin from Illinois, left a good,
high paying union job. I just could not stand being

(25:20):
in that state one second longer. And my wife and
I went to Trump rally in Wisconsin, a bus stop
tour and the town hall meeting, and one message they
gave it all three of those was not to stop
getting out to vote. Case in point, Susan Crawford just

(25:42):
one instead of Brad Schimmel and Derek Van Ordon. Our Rep.
Was on the radio a few days back and said
that six hundred thousand Republican voters did not turn out
for that election, how easily Crawford could have been defeated.

(26:04):
She won by three hundred thousand volts votes and there
was six hundred thousand people that didn't vote, and it's
just shame on every Republican that didn't get out for them.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
Well, there's one thing you not factoring in that I
believe was a big part of that special l April
first election. And I think that the conservative justice who
I liked on issues was on record as supporting an
eighteen hundred's law on abortion in Wisconsin that made no

(26:38):
exceptions for rape incest to the mother's life. Now, when
you go back and you look at when Josh Shapiro
beat Doug Mostriano in Pennsylvania, going back a number of
years ago, that was the year Oz was running against Fetterman,
So I was very familiar with that race, and Mostriano
had no exceptions for rape, pincess mother's life. It is
to me, especially in a swing state, an untenable position

(27:02):
for any Republican to get elected in period, end of sentence,
whether you like, forget about where you stand on the issue.
Now it's kind of a moot point because the Supreme
Court codified the abortion pill, which is basically a first
trimester law that allows for abortion and its availability around

(27:26):
the country. So I think in that sense, it's we're
at ten to twelve weeks now, and now it's a
matter of what states prefer, and the states will make
that decision, and I think I just don't believe in
any swing state that I can think of, that if
you have that position on abortion, that you can win

(27:47):
a statewide election. That's my position. What do you think
I'm wrong.

Speaker 5 (27:51):
Oh no, no, I would agree with you.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah, but you know, I mean that in three hundred
thousand votes was nothing. I think that that is a
big issue for a lot of Americans. And it doesn't
matter what my position is. I'm just looking at this
purely from a political standpoint, not a moral standpoint. But
the country even look at Mississippi fifteen weeks, Look at Ohio,

(28:16):
what do they go to. I think they went to
sixteen weeks, and these are red states that are overwhelmingly
supporting first trimester or a little bit longer abortion laws.
And I think, you know, then you get to the
point where, okay, when is the feat is viable? And
I think signs might even change the entire equation and

(28:38):
the debate over time, but we'll have to wait and see.
So it just is a little bit more complicated. It's
sad because this is very liberal Justice Crawford is going
to have to weigh in on issues of redistricting, and
the Democrats will jerry mander and they may pick up
as many as two seats. I tried to warn people
about the consequences of that election, but it is what

(29:01):
it is, and I think Republicans have to be very
very smart in who they decide to run in these
elections period, and that does matter, especially in a swing
state like your state of Wisconsin. Although I think Wisconsin
has the possibility of being a red state if Republicans
can get all of these issues right, and that happens

(29:22):
to be an important issue. We saw the consequences after
Roe v. Wade was overturned in terms of the next cycle.
There was great impact, and then the state started adopting
laws responding to the people in their respective states and

(29:43):
then people calm down about it, and Democrats really don't
have the ability to demagogic. In this case, I think
they had the ability to demogogic. Jim, We appreciate you man.
Thank you eight hundred and nine four one. Sewan, if
you want to be a part of the program,