December 26, 2024 • 40 mins
Dan and Monse in for C&R as they discuss the newly released NBA ratings from Christmas and how Netflix did with their first-ever NFL live game streaming. Dan and Monse welcome FSR NBA Insider Mark Medina on to talk about the Christmas Day NBA games, Jimmy Butler and all of the major headlines around the NFL. Dan and Monse discuss the prospect of Bronny James playing Caitlin Clark one on one.
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Yeah, Covino and Rich doing the Dan Patrick hat trick
here on Fox Sports Radio. So you got Monzi and
Me for the next two hours, but we're not doing
it by ourselves that it's not the case Mancy, and
we got some big numbers coming in from yesterday's NBA games.
We'll see if Lebron was right or not. And it's
the showdown of all showdowns. Jason Stewart is here, our
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I'm Young Mac, I'm the ones and twos. You said it,
I'm me and Isaac Longcron at the news desk providing
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post Christmas? Let's get it going here on Cavino and
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Speaker 5 (01:17):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Just as we were sitting here getting set for the
start of Cavino.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
And Rich CNR on FSR.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Monzi came across some numbers, some impressive numbers. If you're
the NBA about what we witnessed yesterday on their quintupleheader.
It's not a doubleheader, not a tripleheader. Five games across
multiple platforms starting from early in the morning going to
late at night, but ratings apparently a thumbs up.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
According to NBA Communications Twitter x page, the NBA delivered
its most watched Christmas date in five years, with viewership
up eighty four percent from last year across their PLATF Forums, ABCESPN,
ESPN two, Disney Plus and ESPN Plus. The NBA on
Christmas Day average five point two point five five point
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twenty five million viewers per game. In the US, the
Lakers and Warriors, the most watched NBA regular season and
Christmas Day game in five years, averaged seven point seven
to six million viewers and peaked at eight point three
to two.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Okay, let's let the NBA have their victory lap. Yeah,
but let's let's be real about something. They didn't do
it by themselves. No, they absolutely did not do it
by themselves. And while yesterday it was a great day
for the NBA, when I hear those numbers, do you
know what I'm thinking, Monci, I'm thinking, Uh, Ravens are
(02:42):
up thirty one to two on the Texans, Let's turn
on something else. Chiefs are up twenty nine to ten
on the Pittsburgh Steelers. Let's turn on something else. And
then you've got that leading you into the great numbers.
Lakers Warriors came after Ravens and Texans played, so there
was no competition on the NFL side of things for
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the NBA in that window. That was also the marquee
game of the week, which, by the way, if I'm
going to take a victory lap, if the NBA is
when I told you that the Celtics brand isn't what
it once was, this is exactly what I'm talking about
you could have put the Lakers in the Celtics. You
could have put the Warriors in the Celtics. You could
have put the MAVs in the Celtics in an NBA
Finals rematch. Instead, you had them play Philadelphia and the
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Lakers and the Warriors, who are the two biggest brands
in the NBA right now drawing the biggest numbers. As
you said that we've seen in five years. Victory lap
taken by me. It's just the way it is, Boston.
I'm sorry, but this was helped out by the NFL
stinking on Christmas Day. This is the NFL not providing
great content because they are sandwiching games in such a
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short window of time that maybe you're not getting the
best outfoot from Pittsburgh and from Houston. Baltimore and Kansas
City are better teams. But Monci, when I look at
these numbers, it's nice for the NBA to say that
today after what was a great day for them, but
I don't think it necessarily means what Lebron said is true.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
All right, so more details. I don't disagree with you,
but just more details. With the first game in the NBA,
which started at noon, eastern nine am. I think right,
it was noon eastern nine am. Okay, So the Knick's
Spurs game average four point nine to one million viewers,
making it the most watched Christmas Day opener in thirteen years,
up ninety eight percent versus their comparable window last year.
(04:25):
I don't disagree with you, but it does seem like
kind of my theory also that on Christmas people just
want to put it on in the background, like that's
just naturally what you want to do, and you can
still be invested with your family with the NFL, I
don't think you can invest with family quality time presence
because you want to sit and watch it. So I'm
not disagreeing with you though, because especially the Ravens game,
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again Netflix wasn't working for me for the whole fourth quarter.
Did it matter No, because the score was all Ravens
that I didn't even care. But it started from the
beginning people were just like, just put on the NBA
and have it on in the background, just let it ride.
That's probably what happened.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I think that's the best case scenario in any family
setting and how most people actually consume those games. Yeah,
I think you're right. I also think in New York
market helps. Yeah, I don't know how much Victor women Yama,
although he should help, does in that scenario because the
tricky thing is for us out in the West Coast. Honestly,
my three year old son woke up at nine on
Christmas morning, so.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
That sounds late, that sounds good.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, it was great. It was great, but then you're
you know, you run down and Santa stop by, so
we had opening presents. So the team didn't come on
until actually at the start of the Chief Steelers game,
of like, oh, this is is about to come out.
So I'm a little surprised by that because it doesn't
get our part of the country, at least it didn't
in my household. But it does have the New York
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market with it for a boost. But if it is
the next the highest number since the twelve or thirteen
years ago, I can't argue with that. Anything since twenty
nineteen now is completely like now you're like, okay, now
we're we back to the pre COVID scenario. Right when
are we going to be back? Maybe that first number
tells us we're closer to being back than the other
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numbers because it had been over a decade, but still
of just of trying to get the numbers back in.
It's you're still trying to reach those pre COVID days.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Of course it's not there yet, but it does. I
am surprised by this first game as well. I think
it's on it's just it's Christmas. And I bet you
people seeing the score how close it was between the
Knicks and the Spurs that were like, oh, we should
tune in, we should check this out. Victor one Bayama
house how many points? Oh, maybe we should watch this guy,
Like it was maybe an opportunity for people who hadn't
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seen Victor one Banyama on a national stage actually be
able to see him.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Well, you mentioned the Netflix problems. Here was my problem.
I opened up Netflix, and I don't know if any
of you else had this problem. Open up Netflix, saw
an immediate graphic for the Christmas Day games.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Then you go to the main screen and I had
to find where I got the game, Like it was
not like it was right there in said to watch live.
Like when you watch Amazon Prime on Thursday nights, it's
the first thing on the screen. It gives you an
option watch Now. Netflix did not do that. I had
to go and find in fact, true story, I had
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to search it because it was telling me to watch
some new show with Jason Bateman and some other stuff
like that's their first mess up. So then I searched NFL. Then,
because it was set up in two separate windows, I
couldn't get the Texans Ravens because we dumped out of
Chief Steelers, watched some regular programming, and then came back
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and all I kept on doing was telling me to
play the trailer or to set a reminder when the start.
The game had already started, and I was having big
time issues with that. So for all the Netflix bugaboos
that they had during the Tyson Paul fight, I didn't
have any of those streaming problems. I just had a
problem getting the games on my TV period, and after
the outcomes, I almost wish I didn't even have them
(08:04):
on my TV.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Absolutely I had streaming issues in the fourth quarter, and
I didn't have that issue. I could find it right away,
but when I tried to turn it on, it had
already started, and it put me back to like the
pre show.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Like I was like, you have a fast forward?
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Yes, I was like, I don't want to watch the
pre show. We're in the middle of the game. Why
can't I just hit the game? And I sat there
and tried to fast forward and fast forward, and then
at one point I lost signal and then it took
me back to the start of the pre Shaws like,
I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
It did give me an option to watch live that
the Texans when I finally broke through and were able
to get through, It did give me that option. But
I did start to fast forward to your point, and
it would have been like an hour of the broadcast.
And that's just not it's not user friendly.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
No, why did you make it so complicated to watch
this game? It should have been super easy.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Yeah, just do what Amazon does.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
The other thing about the Netflix Day game, the stuff
with the NFL, where I think maybe people were turned off,
maybe they're having problems like me, and just said, well,
if we're going to have an event on, we know
basketball's on, we know that the NBA is on, and
the NBA does have that going for them, And again
kudos to them for an eighty four percent increase. But
you know, I said earlier on the network, why aren't
(09:19):
you playing all of these games like this? Tight? Yeah,
how many times do you have a thirty point comeback
in the NBA? Not very often, because usually what happens
is the team's being blown out by thirty and maybe
they have a back to back or they play in
forty eight hours on a different road trip. We'll just
mail this one in and throw it to the next one. Yesterday,
it's Christmas Day. Nobody wants to be embarrassed on national TV.
Everybody wants to shine bright, so they actually try hard.
(09:42):
And that's what I think was a big reason on
why Lebron was able to peacocky yesterday because the rest
of the teams also wanted to be competitive on Christmas Day.
They didn't want to look like dogs on Christmas Day.
But then, how do you explain the first two months
of the season. That's the problem that I have.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
With and it's very frustrating. It's very frustrating from the
lack of intensity for the first couple of weeks months
in the season, and then for you to actually put
this together when it's like this is all we want.
This is like nobody has a problem with the All
Star Game. It's just that you guys stopped playing. Nobody
has a problem. Everyone I love the All Star Game.
Back in the day East versus West, they hated each other. Yes,
(10:16):
there was pride involved. Now there's no pride involved and
I hate it. But there was pride yesterday apparently.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah, Christmas Day the Games show up? Did you I
actually feel like Manzi's not the one to ask because
she's in the studio where she's recording and so she
doesn't have the sound on Jason Stewart, did you find
anything standing out from the broadcast of the Netflix Games yesterday?
Speaker 7 (10:38):
I thought it was a pretty good presentation. I'm not
a fan of Ian Eagle or JJ Watt, but that
was fine. I think the presentation was actually better than
everyone expected. They hired a bunch of randoms for their
studio show that included Mina comes John Ramos was a
huge fan, by the way, are John Ramos? And then
(10:58):
the Beyonce thing.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
How and I definitely put the volume up on that.
You did, I did.
Speaker 7 (11:03):
What did we think about the song selection the performance?
Speaker 4 (11:07):
It's her latest album. It was all her latest album.
I thought, I think there was maybe one song at
the moment where I was like, oh this, but it
was her latest album and I thought it was great.
I enjoyed it. Post Malone came out, I was all
about it. I was all about it. And then Blue
Ivy came out. They did a little dance. I was
into it. I thought it was I thought it was
a good performance by Beyonce. But I love her, so
(11:28):
I'm biased, so I can't answer full disclosure.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I was taking a nap and I completely missed it.
But everything that I heard was what you guys said.
I did not see it. I just saw the highlights.
But I will tell you one thing. When you say
you're playing stuff off your current album, I'm like, ooh,
because you could do that on the tour because people
are coming to see you. When you are broadcasting to
a true broadcast where it's just you're bringing everybody in,
(11:54):
you have to play the hits. Great point. You have
such a good point, So I know you're probably trying
to sell albums. You probably would have sold albums if
you just would have done what you did, maybe played
a song or two off that album. But this is
a different audience than to you're playing the super Bowl.
You can't play five of the songs off of your
new record. You're playing all of your hits and that's
(12:15):
what this should have been.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I will say at one point I was like, is
she not going to do another song? She's not going
to do just another hit of the past. And I
was surprised that she did it. But I guess her
get up literally tells us that she's doing her latest album.
She was in her cowgirl you know attire or so,
but I was surprised. I was like, no single, ladies,
that's what I want.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
The reviews on Twitter from you know were mostly She's
the greatest ever. She nailed it. I don't know what
you guys think about Beyonce as a reformer or her
song catalog, but this, this is the category I put
Beyonce in. I think she's a phenomenal talent, and I
appreciate her following and I appreciate her art. I just
(12:57):
it's the music's just not for me. I really sat
through that set and oh my god, this just isn't
for me. Whether it's her style or of singing or
what it is, I don't know what it is, but
she doesn't do anything for me. And I put Justin
Timberlick in that same category. Interesting great artists that I
just don't quite like.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
The music of this album was her Cowgirl, her you
know country album that she released, which is very different
from other albums that she's had in the past. So
I think if you tuned into this and you were like, huh,
why is this different? Yeah, this was a different side
of Beyonce that she had never really dove completely into.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Mary Mac, did you check out Beyonce yesterday? Were you
able to? Nah? Not interested? I didn't.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
I didn't listen to the cow was a Cowboy card.
I didn't listen to the album.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
So I wanted to get the young demographic.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
I stopped listening to Beyonce after, like maybe the B
Day album that was.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
A long time ago. You didn't You didn't listen to Lemonade?
Speaker 5 (14:04):
No, no, No. I listened to a couple of it, but
I didn't say.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Like Lemonade was the one visually too? Where where was it?
Remind me, guys? Was it the Super Bowl where they
had a commercial and it was Beyonce and they kept
kind of hinting that she was going to drop a
song and everybody kept going to the internet. And I
say everybody because I kept going to the internet thinking
she was going to drop a song. Well, that ties
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in it's those songs that and I think it was
during the Super Bowl, So I feel like this was
all the plan, right, It's got.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Them out of my window. Like it's like Jason says,
it's not for me. It's one of my greatest revelations
in life that I've realized over the last two years.
Not everything is for me.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Did you listen to old Beyonce?
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Yeah, did you like Destiny's Child?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I I not only did I like desk to these child.
I recognized early that Beyonce when they were you know,
a quartet if you will, if there was four of them,
that she was by far the most talented. Yeah, you could.
You could just tell. And then you know, then they
break up jettison to others and bring in Michelle Williams,
and I mean Beyonce still stood out there. There's also
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the time during the Britney Spears time where Britney Spears
is very popular, but just she's gonna catch astray here.
But Beyonce was just so much more talented, Like you
could just tell it, you just screamed through the speakers.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Yeah, I think not that Beyonce is not a performer,
but Brittany was, like is a performer and Beyonce is
an artist. We're like, Beyonce can sing anything you give her,
She'll sing it.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I get that.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
That makes sense.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
And then Brittany. I love Brittany. Brittany, I don't think
you could just handle a song and sing with a
piano and be like, all right, girl a capella, let's go.
She can't do that, you know what I mean? Beyonce.
I think, can Beyonce just be like sing right now?
It just comes out of her. She's not even trying,
and so I think it's a little bit different.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
I'll tell you this much. If Beyonce is not in
Dan's window, I saw something that is in Dan's window
because he recommended it to me, and I enjoyed every
minute of it. I watched the yacht Rock documentary and
I was so into it. For ninety minutes, I was
glued to the TV. It was an amazing documentary. It
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takes you way back. Those songs are awesome, dude, yacht
rock is awesome.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah, it's it's great. It's it's The documentary was great.
I think the biggest takeaway from it and I'll and
i'll is we're completely going off the rails. I went
and saw it with my wife. She got me tickets
because she knew I was a big Michael McDonald fan.
So years back we got to see them in Toto
together and Toto opened up. And like, Toto is the
(16:36):
band that just needs to continue to receive praise for
how good they are and how much they touched in
the world of music back then. And I think this documentary,
I think Steely Dan actually gets much of the credit,
whether they you know, the one guy likes it or
doesn't like it, but total like is them and Michael
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McDonald are the others that get a lot of praise
behind me Deely Dan in this documentary. But when you
realize like where Toto was and what Toto was doing
and really a tip of the captall the session workers
that do their stuff. Yeah, it's really good.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
I had no idea, by the way I was. I
was not informed about that genre, and I didn't know
that Toto wrote for and played for on so many albums.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, credit to them, you're right. Yeah, if you.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
Want a good yacht rock, I got introduced to yat
rock from Family Guy because Peter does go really yat
rock and it's a sentimental Lady by Bob Welch. That's
a great introduction to like yacht rock.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I've loved Christopher Cross for a long long time, truly.
I was searching for tapes of his in the mid
nineties and they were so old they would break in
the cassette player. So I have like three like Christopher
Cross albums, the one with the Flamingo on it. But yeah,
I've always been a fan. I got to meet him
like about a decade ago at a little performance done
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at the Grammy Museum name Dropper and yeah, I autographed
the late CD that he had out, and there was
a clip that you'll see a lot with Christopher crossword.
He's wearing this Earl Campbell Houston Oilers jersey, and I
asked him, I go, why are you I see this
video of you. You're wearing this Earl Campbell jersey. Like
they had like the same agent. It's the same agency.
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That's why it was like tied in. Yeah, it's crazy.
So the stuff you learn, I don't know if it's
entirely factor about I think there was an agent tie
in to the Earl Campbell why he was wearing. You'll
see it the old clip He's busting out in nineteen
eighty and eighty one with the Houston Oilers thirty four uniform.
You brought it back to sports, Dan, I do that,
just like Cavino and Rich and Chris Miller tweets in
(18:37):
stop overthinking it. The NBA did solid numbers yesterday because
all five games were on ABC free over the air television.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Totally.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I agree that, yeah, yeah, yeah, there were games at
other times that would just be on ESPN. But I
felt like that Nick Spurs game that could be wrong.
I felt that was maybe an ABC game. It could
be wrong. Maybe it was an ESPN only and they
only did like the two Marquee games. I don't ever
remember the late game being on ABC, which was last
night with the Nuggets and Sons as well. I always
(19:04):
felt that that was like an ESPN only, like when
the Clippers would play. But my memory, Man Clipper not
be serving me well.
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g Underscore Medina similar over at Blue Sky, Mark and
I were able to connect Blue Sky followers of each other. Mark, Uh,
how are you doing on this post Christmas day?
Speaker 8 (20:25):
I'm doing well. From that Dan Byer bump on social.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
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Speaker 1 (20:30):
My followers are up fourteen percent after the follow by
Mark Medina just a couple of days ago. I know
you were following the quintuppleheader that they had yesterday in
the NBA. Let's start off with the obvious. Was Lebron
correct in saying that, sorry, NFL, but the NBA owns
Christmas Day?
Speaker 8 (20:48):
Well, technically no, the NFL owns every single thing of
the sports calendar. No one's ever gonna beat the NFL.
But I do understand Lebron's point about you know, there's
always gonna be more NBA games. This is her special feeling.
Even if the NFL is always going to draw more viewers,
the NBA can still have a net positive of having
Christmas Day games and not saying, you know what, we'll
(21:09):
seed all things to the NFL. So the NFL is
and will always be king, But as the NBA showed
with their viewership numbers on Christmas Day, you know they
can at least be in the mix as far as
being relevant. Hi Mark, Happy day, Chris.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Yes, thanks for hanging out with us once again with
these games. I don't want to jump out of these
games because there was a lot that happened in these games.
So first of all, Luka Doncic, how bad is it?
The maps will seem to be a little bit worried.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
What do you know, Yeah, they don't know for sure,
but expect a little bit of a prolonged absence. You know,
left cap strings are pretty serious injuries. You know, they
haven't given a usual timetable, but when you look at
historically the number of games players missed with that injuries,
we're talking, you know, five to seven games, so it
could be something that's one of two weeks.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
What do we read into this pat Riley's statement, I'm
saying that they're not going to trade Jimmy Butler. I
know we talked about this a couple of days ago,
Monsie wanting to know if if her Jimmy Butler would
be on the move, and pat Riley putting the kabash
on that in a statement. Is this just leverage? Does
he mean it? What is the deal with pat Riley
in the heat in Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 8 (22:20):
Well, that's the thing about this statement, because both things
can be true. I think generally he means it, Yes,
that they are trying to affirm their support for Jimmy Butler.
But I think there's some legal technicalities out here. If
you're really part the statement he says, we are not
trading Jimmy Butler, but that's technically true in the present,
doesn't mean they will trade Jimmy Butler in the future.
(22:42):
I think the other thing that I'm interpreting with this
message is that if they are to keep Jimmy Butler
or not or not keep them, it's on their terms.
It's not about what team that Jimmy Butler wants. It's
about what's best for Miami. So they've done what's for
Miami with not agreeing to have an extension with Jimmy
(23:03):
Butler because there's injury concerns about him moving forward. But
I think that they can also move at the same
length that they're not going to find a deal that's
too their liking that maintains that they still have a
shot to compete in the Eastern Conference. And look, guys,
I was mentioning this the other day that sometimes Miami
can be delusional, but a lot of times it's good.
(23:23):
Their standard is that, well, this trade still ensure that
we're in win now mode as opposed to doing a rebuild.
So even if we all have the right case that
when you look at the East landscape, it's Boston and
maybe Milwaukee, and you know, maybe New York and Miami
is not part of that mix. Miami doesn't view itself
that way. They view themselves as they can still be
(23:44):
a mix as long as they do the right things.
And so when they're evaluating Jimmy Butler trades, it's about
the short term, not the long term mark.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Is there a chance that Lebron does not end his
career as a Laker. I ask this because there's a
from last night where he's asked what is still great
in the NBA and he says, Braun and Steph. This
guy has a mega crush on Steph Curry, mega, and
it's been kind of brewing over like the last couple
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of years. And I'm just like, this guy is literally yelling,
I want to play with Curry.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
Yeah. I think that he's doing this to spark the speculation,
and I think that he does have this nostalgia that
he'd want to play with Steph. But when it would
come down to signing up for everything that comes with it,
I don't think that he's going to leave with the
Lakers because if he goes to another team, I don't
want it's going to say it's going to harm his legacy.
His legacy's fine, he's the all time leading score in
(24:43):
the NBA, he's won four championships, He's done everything that
you can, and obviously any other accomplishments that he does,
it might cement himself further in the goat debate, or
it might still say that he's still falling short. But
regardless of that, I think it would still take a
nair reputation hit that. Look, you're chasing championships by hitching
(25:04):
on a bandwagon, and the way this is Steph Curry.
I think the more practical part is the Lakers don't
want to trade Lebron even if they flame out in
the playoffs, there's business reasons to keep them. The Warriors
don't want to get Lebron because they would have to
give up, you know, a lot of their young core,
and even though they've been an imperfect team, as we
saw in last night's game against the Lakers, they feel
(25:27):
that if they just stripped down the entire roster where
it's just Steph and another great guy and a bunch
of veter minimum players, that's not better than what they're
currently signed up for. So yeah, I think that he
has a lot of what ifs, and you know, a
wish list that he thinks about, but it's not something
that's actually going to happen.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
But by the way, as you're talking Mark Medina joining
us here on Cavino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio,
she's Monte Bolanos. I'm Dan Bayer. Just to kind of
go back, we were talking about if Jimmy Butler were
traded and he went to Golden State, does that work? Like?
How does that? How does that work with Draymond being
there and like like truely like like does something like
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that even work?
Speaker 8 (26:10):
Well? I would say that personality wise it could work. Look,
Jimmy Butler and Draymond Grew would definitely have some practice blows.
I don't think that Draymond would punch Jimmy Butler like
the way he did Jordan Pole because of the way
Jimmy Butler is established as a player and that could
lead to other things. But here's where when it worked, Dan,
the prior point I'm making about Lebron, what would be
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the cost to get Jimmy Butler. The Miami Heat would
want you know, Jonathan Minga, Brandon Podzimski draft picks, basically,
you know, all their nice supplementary players and the Warriors
would say, you know what, thanks, but no thanks because
we love Jimmy Butler as a competitor. Even though the
Warriors have this reputation because of Steph Curry that you know,
(26:51):
they play with joy, it's more about having this good
working environment and Steph Curry's competitive. So I think from
that standpoint, it's fine about what would be the cost
to get Jimmy Butler. The Warriors won't accept it.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah, I just and obviously it's not about the position.
It's more about your your alpha dog mentality and how
that would work in a locker room. I just don't necessarily,
I don't necessarily see the fit because of when where
Jimmy Butler is gone, he seemed to be the center
of attention, if you will, even if he wasn't the
best player, and everything is so established at Golden State
(27:26):
that I just I don't. I don't. I don't see
a fifty.
Speaker 8 (27:30):
Here's where I would slightly push back. I'm just not
have to say that it would be come by. But
the things that Jimmy Butler has had issues with with
past teams is when he's played with younger teammates or
people that he didn't respect their work ethic. The Warriors,
Steph Curry epitomizes work ethic. Same thing with Draymond Green,
you know, Steve Kerr. Again, they've had this reputation that, oh, yeah,
(27:51):
it's comb by the culture of joy, but it's more
about the workmanlike environment. They sniff out guys that don't
work hard, and that's why I think that Jimmy Butler
in them would be a great fit from that standpoint.
But again, it would just be how this affect the
rest of the roster.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Mark, do you believe in the Knicks or is it
all just hype.
Speaker 8 (28:11):
I believe in the Knicks. I just don't know if
it's enough to win a championship only because the Boston Celtics.
I know they lost the Philadelphia last night. But I
think for the most part this season, as long as
they stay healthy, and I have no reason to think
that Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown can't stay healthy, They're
fine and they have great team chemistry. They've locked every
positional need there is. I know everyone harps on they
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shoot a lot of threes, and you know, sometimes that
makes for games that are hard to watch, But for
the most part, it's because they have good bald movement,
so I still pick them as a favorite. But also Cleveland,
you got to take them seriously. They're strong starts, the
real deal. They have really good roster depth. Every star
player from Donovan Mitchell Evan Mobley has taken up the notch.
Kenny Atkinson's great coach. So it's more about those positive
(28:56):
things online than anything about the Knicks. I think Karl
Anthony Towns elevated the team with his positional versatility as
a big man. He's improved as a defender. And Jalen
Brunson is a great old school point guard, great leader,
great grinder, great pass or playmaker, comes up with the clutch.
So I don't have any general problems with New York.
It's just that Cleveland and Boston just has two stacked
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teams are hard to beat.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
It's interesting because I do feel in the second half
of the season, when we get to February and we
get to March, we're going to start to have the
in the Eastern Conference. Do you want to be on
the Cleveland side of the bracket or do you want
to be on the Boston side of the bracket? Yeah,
like what we always have, and I think that there
are more people that are going to say, like, I'd
rather be on the Cleveland side than on the Boston side.
We'll see. Obviously that could change if Boston ends up
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moving up and the Cavs fall, but that's a ways away. Mark.
We appreciate the time. Love always talking to you. You're
always generous. Talk to you soon.
Speaker 8 (29:51):
Thanks, Love you, guys, appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Happy on Thanks, Mark madeen Our, Fox Sports Radio, NBA
Insider find him again on Exit, Mark g Underscore.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Miami head coach Jim Larronega stepped down today after thirteen
plus seasons, including the Hurricanes' first Final four appearance in
twenty twenty three. Here is why.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
In his own words, I'm exhausted. I've tried every which
way to keep this going. What shocked me was after
we made it to the Final four just eighteen months ago,
the very first time I met with the players, eight
of them decided they were going to put their name
in the portal and leave. I said, don't you like
(30:30):
it yet?
Speaker 2 (30:31):
No?
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I love it. I love Miami.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
It's great. But the opportunity to make money someplace else
created a situation that you have to begin to ask
yourself as a coach. What is this all about? And
the answer is it's become professional.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Dan and Monzi back to you, Thank you very much, Isaac.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Do you think coaches wish they could enter the transfer portal?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Well, they always have been able to. And that's that's
the argument that those who are supporting the players and
will hear that comment from Jim Larenega and just roll
their eyes and saying coaches have always done what they've
wanted to do. Kids have been signing national letters of
intend to go to a school to play for a
coach for four or five years, and that coach, you know,
(31:18):
goes on a nice run the freshman year and ends
up leaving for another job with no repercussions to the
kid who committed to play there four or five years.
The problem with what Jim Larenega is saying. And I
tipped the cap to Matt Jones of Kentucky's Sports Radio,
who made the point on Twitter of Larenega's final four
team at Miami was built via the transfer portal and
(31:39):
was built via those players. In fact, Miami has been
in all sports one of the most active and lucrative spots.
They landed Cam ward, you know, for football and trying
to bring in players via nil. So if there was
a place that you wanted to do it and do
it well, I think Miami would be that place. The
only thing that I would say to what is doing
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now if there's an assistant that's taking over and I'm
not sure if it is likely someone on the staff.
It's a trick that Doug Gottlieb talks a lot about
on his show on Fox Sports Radio. Here we saw
Tony Bennett resign at the beginning of the season before
Virginia season starting, and allows their top assistant to get
the head job and to have that job and maybe
show what they can do and maybe keep that job.
(32:22):
Maybe that's what Jim Larronega is doing here because nothing
has changed for Miami. I would say over the first
month and a half of the season that would make
Jim larra Naga say, Okay, now's the time for me
to quit. You would know that going into the season,
and it's not what's transpired over this last month and
a half for two months that would say it's too
much for me. Guy's been around college basketball for fifty years.
(32:43):
He would know if it's too much entering the season,
so I think he's probably setting it up for someone else.
But his point is I don't believe his point because
of how he maybe benefit from it, but I believe
it in as a whole. Is that just you're not
going to see coaches like him or Jim Beyheim or
Mike Ruzewski, Roy Williams anymore in college hoops. The tom
Izzo's and the bill selves are now the you know,
(33:04):
the ones who are staying there the longest, and however
long they're going to stay who knows. But I don't
think you're gonna see guys at spots for twenty and
thirty years anymore. Just don't think it's realistic.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
This might be a stupid question, and I might be
answering it as I'm asking it, But what is stopping
us school necessarily from being like, hey kid, three year
deal nil?
Speaker 1 (33:24):
At some point that will happen. Okay, Yeah, I mean
there's there's it's just of what they can get elsewhere.
It's like, you want to see what else is behind
door number two and what's behind door number three. So
while you may be getting nil from your current school,
if there's another school that's going to give you a
better offer. Why wouldn't you If that's what they're only
(33:44):
out there for, why wouldn't you do that? I think
that's like true die hard sports. College sports fans are like,
that's not what college sports are about. So so there's this, yeah, yeah,
there's this, there's this this rub that is just nobody's
really happy in this current sense. But there's a lot
of people that are saying, well, how can you blame
these players? They've seemingly been getting the short end of
(34:07):
the stick for so long. Now they're finally getting paid
and coaches don't like it. Tough deal for the coaches,
that's the center.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Yeah, I don't know. I just saw his Well, you're
getting a free education. Most of you aren't. Isn't that
what it was for a long time? You got a
free education out of it? Yeah, but I know that
that's changed because school is just not valued the same
way as it used to be.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Sure. Plus, if you know, if you get free tuition,
would you rather that have free tuition or five hundred
thousand dollars?
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Of course, no, of course. But yeah, it's almost like
I understand it because you're also not really allowed to
work if you're a full time, you know, athlete at school.
They don't want you to work. They want you to
focus on the team, and so you also couldn't make money.
So I get it, I understand.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
But yeah, well now you can work. It's funny. It's
not like you would get a job at a pizza place.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
But that's what I meant, Like, they wouldn't want you
to go get a job at a pizza place because
they want you to focus on the team. So it
was always like they couldn't make money. They really were
kind of tied. And now they can make money.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
But but now you're Page Becker's and I'm seeing Nike
ads of her in them all of America, right.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
You know exactly, Yeah, there's an other job.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
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y e R. It's the debate that we always wanted
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to know, and it is finally here. Thanks to Athlon
Sports for bringing up the topic that we were all
afraid to talk about. It was the elephant in the
room for so long, Moncy, But finally someone who's had
the guts, dare I say at the balls to bring
(36:25):
up who would win on a one on one game
between Bronnie James and Caitlyn Clark. Finally the debate that
had my Christmas back home in Wisconsin splits along party
lines as they discussed this topic that was on the
minds of so many across America. Would Bronnie James beat
(36:46):
Caitlyn Clark in a game of one on one?
Speaker 9 (36:50):
How much I think the world would pay to see
Bronnie barcyc Bro. He would be her by sixty Bro,
he would legit be her twenty zero are y'all series
right now? Eight ten towns or athletic to her? He
can do everything better than her. She's a girl bro
like he physically way more like simps.
Speaker 7 (37:09):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 9 (37:09):
I mean, she's a good person, but no bro as
a man.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
That was former NBA player Jeff Tigue on his podcast
discussing the topic of if Bronnie James would be Caitlyn
Clark MANSI do you want to address this this idiot topic?
Speaker 4 (37:27):
It really like, is this a hot take? Because it's not.
Nobody would disagree with you that Bronnie James would be
Kitlyn Clark. If I walked in on a pre show
meeting and he was wanting to talk about this. You
know that gift of Viola Davis where she just grabs
her bags and leaves, that would be what I would do.
I would just grab my bags in a pre show meeting.
If this is what he brought up, that is not
(37:47):
a hot take in any way, shape or form. In fact,
I think it's a bit of a diss that you
brought a Bronnie to compare to Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Completely disrespectful to everybody, to everyone, I mean, because there
is no there, This isn't this shouldn't.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Even have been brought up. Do you think Kylen could
be Bronnie? What are you talking? Are they playing horse?
Are they playing a three point shooting contest like we
saw Sabrina and stuff?
Speaker 6 (38:13):
Do like?
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Of course of course he would beat her. This is
not a hot take. This is ridiculous to even think
about it. But yeah, I think it's a bit of
a diss to Bronnie.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
By the way, just on the heels of that, do
you guys remember last year when I told you that
I felt the Sabrina and stuph thing was a precursor
so they could get Kaitlyn Clark in it this year, Yeah,
what is trying to happen? They're trying to get Kaitlin
Clark in it. Of course I'll take the victory lap
on that. Very good.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
There is no doubt. It's not even a debate that
Bronnie James would win. And Jeff Tgue on the Club
five to twenty podcast that's his podcast, brought up the
topic and then Athlon ended up making the article about
that conversation. It's the only place you'll see because it's
the only place that apparently thinks it's worthy of an
actual article. It's it's absurd women college basketball team, top
(39:02):
tier college basketball teams practice against men guys who played
in high school that go to the university and maybe
weren't good enough to play college basketball, but to give
them a fight. That's that's what we're talking about here.
I don't think anybody wants to see that in a
one on one game.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
I don't think anyone wants to see that at all.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Yeah, it's in the men's and women's game are just
completely different. I think you actually have to look at
them as two different sports, and I think if you
do that, you'll have an appreciation for both in what
they do a lot better. Yeah, there is no discussion.
I remember the clip when Serena Williams was on David
Letterman and she and he asked her if you know
(39:41):
if a man could beat her, and she said, if
I played Andy Murray, who was you know, maybe number
one at the time of the interview, she said, I
would lose six love six love in maybe five to
six minutes. It's it's a different sport.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
It's a different sport. And I you know it said
to you in the pre show, like tennis would be
the one thing where maybe that I try to beat
my others in and you can't. It's not the same.
And that's I think you just hit it right on
the head. NBA and WNBA are just different sports. If
this was two on two co ed, okay, you know maybe,
but that's not it one on one? What are we
(40:14):
even saying?
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah, I just I find it absurd, but hey, we
at least gave three minutes to the absurdity of this debate.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Yeah, Covino and Rich doing the Dan Patrick hat trick
here on Fox Sports Radio. So you got Monzi and
Me for the next two hours, but we're not doing
it by ourselves that it's not the case Mancy, and
we got some big numbers coming in from yesterday's NBA games.
We'll see if Lebron was right or not. And it's
the showdown of all showdowns. Jason Stewart is here, our
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executive producer. What's happening to Jason? Hello, Everybunday, Mary Mac, Mary,
I'm Young Mac, I'm the ones and twos. You said it,
I'm me and Isaac Longcron at the news desk providing
us all the details we need to know. Have you
post Christmas? Let's get it going here on Cavino and
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Speaker 4 (00:58):
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Speaker 5 (01:17):
Now.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Just as we were sitting here getting set for the
start of Cavino.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
And Rich CNR on FSR.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Monzi came across some numbers, some impressive numbers. If you're
the NBA about what we witnessed yesterday on their quintupleheader.
It's not a doubleheader, not a tripleheader. Five games across
multiple platforms starting from early in the morning going to
late at night, but ratings apparently a thumbs up.
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
According to NBA Communications Twitter x page, the NBA delivered
its most watched Christmas date in five years, with viewership
up eighty four percent from last year across their PLATF Forums, ABCESPN,
ESPN two, Disney Plus and ESPN Plus. The NBA on
Christmas Day average five point two point five five point
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twenty five million viewers per game. In the US, the
Lakers and Warriors, the most watched NBA regular season and
Christmas Day game in five years, averaged seven point seven
to six million viewers and peaked at eight point three
to two.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Okay, let's let the NBA have their victory lap. Yeah,
but let's let's be real about something. They didn't do
it by themselves. No, they absolutely did not do it
by themselves. And while yesterday it was a great day
for the NBA, when I hear those numbers, do you
know what I'm thinking, Monci, I'm thinking, Uh, Ravens are
(02:42):
up thirty one to two on the Texans, Let's turn
on something else. Chiefs are up twenty nine to ten
on the Pittsburgh Steelers. Let's turn on something else. And
then you've got that leading you into the great numbers.
Lakers Warriors came after Ravens and Texans played, so there
was no competition on the NFL side of things for
(03:04):
the NBA in that window. That was also the marquee
game of the week, which, by the way, if I'm
going to take a victory lap, if the NBA is
when I told you that the Celtics brand isn't what
it once was, this is exactly what I'm talking about
you could have put the Lakers in the Celtics. You
could have put the Warriors in the Celtics. You could
have put the MAVs in the Celtics in an NBA
Finals rematch. Instead, you had them play Philadelphia and the
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Lakers and the Warriors, who are the two biggest brands
in the NBA right now drawing the biggest numbers. As
you said that we've seen in five years. Victory lap
taken by me. It's just the way it is, Boston.
I'm sorry, but this was helped out by the NFL
stinking on Christmas Day. This is the NFL not providing
great content because they are sandwiching games in such a
(03:46):
short window of time that maybe you're not getting the
best outfoot from Pittsburgh and from Houston. Baltimore and Kansas
City are better teams. But Monci, when I look at
these numbers, it's nice for the NBA to say that
today after what was a great day for them, but
I don't think it necessarily means what Lebron said is true.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
All right, so more details. I don't disagree with you,
but just more details. With the first game in the NBA,
which started at noon, eastern nine am. I think right,
it was noon eastern nine am. Okay, So the Knick's
Spurs game average four point nine to one million viewers,
making it the most watched Christmas Day opener in thirteen years,
up ninety eight percent versus their comparable window last year.
(04:25):
I don't disagree with you, but it does seem like
kind of my theory also that on Christmas people just
want to put it on in the background, like that's
just naturally what you want to do, and you can
still be invested with your family with the NFL, I
don't think you can invest with family quality time presence
because you want to sit and watch it. So I'm
not disagreeing with you though, because especially the Ravens game,
(04:48):
again Netflix wasn't working for me for the whole fourth quarter.
Did it matter No, because the score was all Ravens
that I didn't even care. But it started from the
beginning people were just like, just put on the NBA
and have it on in the background, just let it ride.
That's probably what happened.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
I think that's the best case scenario in any family
setting and how most people actually consume those games. Yeah,
I think you're right. I also think in New York
market helps. Yeah, I don't know how much Victor women Yama,
although he should help, does in that scenario because the
tricky thing is for us out in the West Coast. Honestly,
my three year old son woke up at nine on
Christmas morning, so.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
That sounds late, that sounds good.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, it was great. It was great, but then you're
you know, you run down and Santa stop by, so
we had opening presents. So the team didn't come on
until actually at the start of the Chief Steelers game,
of like, oh, this is is about to come out.
So I'm a little surprised by that because it doesn't
get our part of the country, at least it didn't
in my household. But it does have the New York
(05:47):
market with it for a boost. But if it is
the next the highest number since the twelve or thirteen
years ago, I can't argue with that. Anything since twenty
nineteen now is completely like now you're like, okay, now
we're we back to the pre COVID scenario. Right when
are we going to be back? Maybe that first number
tells us we're closer to being back than the other
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numbers because it had been over a decade, but still
of just of trying to get the numbers back in.
It's you're still trying to reach those pre COVID days.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
Of course it's not there yet, but it does. I
am surprised by this first game as well. I think
it's on it's just it's Christmas. And I bet you
people seeing the score how close it was between the
Knicks and the Spurs that were like, oh, we should
tune in, we should check this out. Victor one Bayama
house how many points? Oh, maybe we should watch this guy,
Like it was maybe an opportunity for people who hadn't
(06:40):
seen Victor one Banyama on a national stage actually be
able to see him.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Well, you mentioned the Netflix problems. Here was my problem.
I opened up Netflix, and I don't know if any
of you else had this problem. Open up Netflix, saw
an immediate graphic for the Christmas Day games.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Uh huh.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Then you go to the main screen and I had
to find where I got the game, Like it was
not like it was right there in said to watch live.
Like when you watch Amazon Prime on Thursday nights, it's
the first thing on the screen. It gives you an
option watch Now. Netflix did not do that. I had
to go and find in fact, true story, I had
(07:20):
to search it because it was telling me to watch
some new show with Jason Bateman and some other stuff
like that's their first mess up. So then I searched NFL. Then,
because it was set up in two separate windows, I
couldn't get the Texans Ravens because we dumped out of
Chief Steelers, watched some regular programming, and then came back
(07:42):
and all I kept on doing was telling me to
play the trailer or to set a reminder when the start.
The game had already started, and I was having big
time issues with that. So for all the Netflix bugaboos
that they had during the Tyson Paul fight, I didn't
have any of those streaming problems. I just had a
problem getting the games on my TV period, and after
the outcomes, I almost wish I didn't even have them
(08:04):
on my TV.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Absolutely I had streaming issues in the fourth quarter, and
I didn't have that issue. I could find it right away,
but when I tried to turn it on, it had
already started, and it put me back to like the
pre show.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Like I was like, you have a fast forward?
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Yes, I was like, I don't want to watch the
pre show. We're in the middle of the game. Why
can't I just hit the game? And I sat there
and tried to fast forward and fast forward, and then
at one point I lost signal and then it took
me back to the start of the pre Shaws like,
I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
It did give me an option to watch live that
the Texans when I finally broke through and were able
to get through, It did give me that option. But
I did start to fast forward to your point, and
it would have been like an hour of the broadcast.
And that's just not it's not user friendly.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
No, why did you make it so complicated to watch
this game? It should have been super easy.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Yeah, just do what Amazon does.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
The other thing about the Netflix Day game, the stuff
with the NFL, where I think maybe people were turned off,
maybe they're having problems like me, and just said, well,
if we're going to have an event on, we know
basketball's on, we know that the NBA is on, and
the NBA does have that going for them, And again
kudos to them for an eighty four percent increase. But
you know, I said earlier on the network, why aren't
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you playing all of these games like this? Tight? Yeah,
how many times do you have a thirty point comeback
in the NBA? Not very often, because usually what happens
is the team's being blown out by thirty and maybe
they have a back to back or they play in
forty eight hours on a different road trip. We'll just
mail this one in and throw it to the next one. Yesterday,
it's Christmas Day. Nobody wants to be embarrassed on national TV.
Everybody wants to shine bright, so they actually try hard.
(09:42):
And that's what I think was a big reason on
why Lebron was able to peacocky yesterday because the rest
of the teams also wanted to be competitive on Christmas Day.
They didn't want to look like dogs on Christmas Day.
But then, how do you explain the first two months
of the season. That's the problem that I have.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
With and it's very frustrating. It's very frustrating from the
lack of intensity for the first couple of weeks months
in the season, and then for you to actually put
this together when it's like this is all we want.
This is like nobody has a problem with the All
Star Game. It's just that you guys stopped playing. Nobody
has a problem. Everyone I love the All Star Game.
Back in the day East versus West, they hated each other. Yes,
(10:16):
there was pride involved. Now there's no pride involved and
I hate it. But there was pride yesterday apparently.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yeah, Christmas Day the Games show up? Did you I
actually feel like Manzi's not the one to ask because
she's in the studio where she's recording and so she
doesn't have the sound on Jason Stewart, did you find
anything standing out from the broadcast of the Netflix Games yesterday?
Speaker 7 (10:38):
I thought it was a pretty good presentation. I'm not
a fan of Ian Eagle or JJ Watt, but that
was fine. I think the presentation was actually better than
everyone expected. They hired a bunch of randoms for their
studio show that included Mina comes John Ramos was a
huge fan, by the way, are John Ramos? And then
(10:58):
the Beyonce thing.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
How and I definitely put the volume up on that.
You did, I did.
Speaker 7 (11:03):
What did we think about the song selection the performance?
Speaker 4 (11:07):
It's her latest album. It was all her latest album.
I thought, I think there was maybe one song at
the moment where I was like, oh this, but it
was her latest album and I thought it was great.
I enjoyed it. Post Malone came out, I was all
about it. I was all about it. And then Blue
Ivy came out. They did a little dance. I was
into it. I thought it was I thought it was
a good performance by Beyonce. But I love her, so
(11:28):
I'm biased, so I can't answer full disclosure.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
I was taking a nap and I completely missed it.
But everything that I heard was what you guys said.
I did not see it. I just saw the highlights.
But I will tell you one thing. When you say
you're playing stuff off your current album, I'm like, ooh,
because you could do that on the tour because people
are coming to see you. When you are broadcasting to
a true broadcast where it's just you're bringing everybody in,
(11:54):
you have to play the hits. Great point. You have
such a good point, So I know you're probably trying
to sell albums. You probably would have sold albums if
you just would have done what you did, maybe played
a song or two off that album. But this is
a different audience than to you're playing the super Bowl.
You can't play five of the songs off of your
new record. You're playing all of your hits and that's
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what this should have been.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
I will say at one point I was like, is
she not going to do another song? She's not going
to do just another hit of the past. And I
was surprised that she did it. But I guess her
get up literally tells us that she's doing her latest album.
She was in her cowgirl you know attire or so,
but I was surprised. I was like, no single, ladies,
that's what I want.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
The reviews on Twitter from you know were mostly She's
the greatest ever. She nailed it. I don't know what
you guys think about Beyonce as a reformer or her
song catalog, but this, this is the category I put
Beyonce in. I think she's a phenomenal talent, and I
appreciate her following and I appreciate her art. I just
(12:57):
it's the music's just not for me. I really sat
through that set and oh my god, this just isn't
for me. Whether it's her style or of singing or
what it is, I don't know what it is, but
she doesn't do anything for me. And I put Justin
Timberlick in that same category. Interesting great artists that I
just don't quite like.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
The music of this album was her Cowgirl, her you
know country album that she released, which is very different
from other albums that she's had in the past. So
I think if you tuned into this and you were like, huh,
why is this different? Yeah, this was a different side
of Beyonce that she had never really dove completely into.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Mary Mac, did you check out Beyonce yesterday? Were you
able to? Nah? Not interested? I didn't.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
I didn't listen to the cow was a Cowboy card.
I didn't listen to the album.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
So I wanted to get the young demographic.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
I stopped listening to Beyonce after, like maybe the B
Day album that was.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
A long time ago. You didn't You didn't listen to Lemonade?
Speaker 5 (14:04):
No, no, No. I listened to a couple of it, but
I didn't say.
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Like Lemonade was the one visually too? Where where was it?
Remind me, guys? Was it the Super Bowl where they
had a commercial and it was Beyonce and they kept
kind of hinting that she was going to drop a
song and everybody kept going to the internet. And I
say everybody because I kept going to the internet thinking
she was going to drop a song. Well, that ties
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in it's those songs that and I think it was
during the Super Bowl, So I feel like this was
all the plan, right, It's got.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Them out of my window. Like it's like Jason says,
it's not for me. It's one of my greatest revelations
in life that I've realized over the last two years.
Not everything is for me.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Did you listen to old Beyonce?
Speaker 4 (14:45):
Yeah, did you like Destiny's Child?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
I I not only did I like desk to these child.
I recognized early that Beyonce when they were you know,
a quartet if you will, if there was four of them,
that she was by far the most talented. Yeah, you could.
You could just tell. And then you know, then they
break up jettison to others and bring in Michelle Williams,
and I mean Beyonce still stood out there. There's also
(15:08):
the time during the Britney Spears time where Britney Spears
is very popular, but just she's gonna catch astray here.
But Beyonce was just so much more talented, Like you
could just tell it, you just screamed through the speakers.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Yeah, I think not that Beyonce is not a performer,
but Brittany was, like is a performer and Beyonce is
an artist. We're like, Beyonce can sing anything you give her,
She'll sing it.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
I get that.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
That makes sense.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
And then Brittany. I love Brittany. Brittany, I don't think
you could just handle a song and sing with a
piano and be like, all right, girl a capella, let's go.
She can't do that, you know what I mean? Beyonce.
I think, can Beyonce just be like sing right now?
It just comes out of her. She's not even trying,
and so I think it's a little bit different.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
I'll tell you this much. If Beyonce is not in
Dan's window, I saw something that is in Dan's window
because he recommended it to me, and I enjoyed every
minute of it. I watched the yacht Rock documentary and
I was so into it. For ninety minutes, I was
glued to the TV. It was an amazing documentary. It
(16:11):
takes you way back. Those songs are awesome, dude, yacht
rock is awesome.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah, it's it's great. It's it's The documentary was great.
I think the biggest takeaway from it and I'll and
i'll is we're completely going off the rails. I went
and saw it with my wife. She got me tickets
because she knew I was a big Michael McDonald fan.
So years back we got to see them in Toto
together and Toto opened up. And like, Toto is the
(16:36):
band that just needs to continue to receive praise for
how good they are and how much they touched in
the world of music back then. And I think this documentary,
I think Steely Dan actually gets much of the credit,
whether they you know, the one guy likes it or
doesn't like it, but total like is them and Michael
(16:57):
McDonald are the others that get a lot of praise
behind me Deely Dan in this documentary. But when you
realize like where Toto was and what Toto was doing
and really a tip of the captall the session workers
that do their stuff. Yeah, it's really good.
Speaker 7 (17:08):
I had no idea, by the way I was. I
was not informed about that genre, and I didn't know
that Toto wrote for and played for on so many albums.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yeah, credit to them, you're right. Yeah, if you.
Speaker 5 (17:20):
Want a good yacht rock, I got introduced to yat
rock from Family Guy because Peter does go really yat
rock and it's a sentimental Lady by Bob Welch. That's
a great introduction to like yacht rock.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I've loved Christopher Cross for a long long time, truly.
I was searching for tapes of his in the mid
nineties and they were so old they would break in
the cassette player. So I have like three like Christopher
Cross albums, the one with the Flamingo on it. But yeah,
I've always been a fan. I got to meet him
like about a decade ago at a little performance done
(17:55):
at the Grammy Museum name Dropper and yeah, I autographed
the late CD that he had out, and there was
a clip that you'll see a lot with Christopher crossword.
He's wearing this Earl Campbell Houston Oilers jersey, and I
asked him, I go, why are you I see this
video of you. You're wearing this Earl Campbell jersey. Like
they had like the same agent. It's the same agency.
(18:15):
That's why it was like tied in. Yeah, it's crazy.
So the stuff you learn, I don't know if it's
entirely factor about I think there was an agent tie
in to the Earl Campbell why he was wearing. You'll
see it the old clip He's busting out in nineteen
eighty and eighty one with the Houston Oilers thirty four uniform.
You brought it back to sports, Dan, I do that,
just like Cavino and Rich and Chris Miller tweets in
(18:37):
stop overthinking it. The NBA did solid numbers yesterday because
all five games were on ABC free over the air television.
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Totally.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I agree that, yeah, yeah, yeah, there were games at
other times that would just be on ESPN. But I
felt like that Nick Spurs game that could be wrong.
I felt that was maybe an ABC game. It could
be wrong. Maybe it was an ESPN only and they
only did like the two Marquee games. I don't ever
remember the late game being on ABC, which was last
night with the Nuggets and Sons as well. I always
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felt that that was like an ESPN only, like when
the Clippers would play. But my memory, Man Clipper not
be serving me well.
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I were able to connect Blue Sky followers of each other. Mark, Uh,
how are you doing on this post Christmas day?
Speaker 8 (20:25):
I'm doing well. From that Dan Byer bump on social.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
There it is.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
My followers are up fourteen percent after the follow by
Mark Medina just a couple of days ago. I know
you were following the quintuppleheader that they had yesterday in
the NBA. Let's start off with the obvious. Was Lebron
correct in saying that, sorry, NFL, but the NBA owns
Christmas Day?
Speaker 8 (20:48):
Well, technically no, the NFL owns every single thing of
the sports calendar. No one's ever gonna beat the NFL.
But I do understand Lebron's point about you know, there's
always gonna be more NBA games. This is her special feeling.
Even if the NFL is always going to draw more viewers,
the NBA can still have a net positive of having
Christmas Day games and not saying, you know what, we'll
(21:09):
seed all things to the NFL. So the NFL is
and will always be king, But as the NBA showed
with their viewership numbers on Christmas Day, you know they
can at least be in the mix as far as
being relevant. Hi Mark, Happy day, Chris.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Yes, thanks for hanging out with us once again with
these games. I don't want to jump out of these
games because there was a lot that happened in these games.
So first of all, Luka Doncic, how bad is it?
The maps will seem to be a little bit worried.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
What do you know, Yeah, they don't know for sure,
but expect a little bit of a prolonged absence. You know,
left cap strings are pretty serious injuries. You know, they
haven't given a usual timetable, but when you look at
historically the number of games players missed with that injuries,
we're talking, you know, five to seven games, so it
could be something that's one of two weeks.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
What do we read into this pat Riley's statement, I'm
saying that they're not going to trade Jimmy Butler. I
know we talked about this a couple of days ago,
Monsie wanting to know if if her Jimmy Butler would
be on the move, and pat Riley putting the kabash
on that in a statement. Is this just leverage? Does
he mean it? What is the deal with pat Riley
in the heat in Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 8 (22:20):
Well, that's the thing about this statement, because both things
can be true. I think generally he means it, Yes,
that they are trying to affirm their support for Jimmy Butler.
But I think there's some legal technicalities out here. If
you're really part the statement he says, we are not
trading Jimmy Butler, but that's technically true in the present,
doesn't mean they will trade Jimmy Butler in the future.
(22:42):
I think the other thing that I'm interpreting with this
message is that if they are to keep Jimmy Butler
or not or not keep them, it's on their terms.
It's not about what team that Jimmy Butler wants. It's
about what's best for Miami. So they've done what's for
Miami with not agreeing to have an extension with Jimmy
(23:03):
Butler because there's injury concerns about him moving forward. But
I think that they can also move at the same
length that they're not going to find a deal that's
too their liking that maintains that they still have a
shot to compete in the Eastern Conference. And look, guys,
I was mentioning this the other day that sometimes Miami
can be delusional, but a lot of times it's good.
(23:23):
Their standard is that, well, this trade still ensure that
we're in win now mode as opposed to doing a rebuild.
So even if we all have the right case that
when you look at the East landscape, it's Boston and
maybe Milwaukee, and you know, maybe New York and Miami
is not part of that mix. Miami doesn't view itself
that way. They view themselves as they can still be
(23:44):
a mix as long as they do the right things.
And so when they're evaluating Jimmy Butler trades, it's about
the short term, not the long term mark.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
Is there a chance that Lebron does not end his
career as a Laker. I ask this because there's a
from last night where he's asked what is still great
in the NBA and he says, Braun and Steph. This
guy has a mega crush on Steph Curry, mega, and
it's been kind of brewing over like the last couple
(24:14):
of years. And I'm just like, this guy is literally yelling,
I want to play with Curry.
Speaker 8 (24:20):
Yeah. I think that he's doing this to spark the speculation,
and I think that he does have this nostalgia that
he'd want to play with Steph. But when it would
come down to signing up for everything that comes with it,
I don't think that he's going to leave with the
Lakers because if he goes to another team, I don't
want it's going to say it's going to harm his legacy.
His legacy's fine, he's the all time leading score in
(24:43):
the NBA, he's won four championships, He's done everything that
you can, and obviously any other accomplishments that he does,
it might cement himself further in the goat debate, or
it might still say that he's still falling short. But
regardless of that, I think it would still take a
nair reputation hit that. Look, you're chasing championships by hitching
(25:04):
on a bandwagon, and the way this is Steph Curry.
I think the more practical part is the Lakers don't
want to trade Lebron even if they flame out in
the playoffs, there's business reasons to keep them. The Warriors
don't want to get Lebron because they would have to
give up, you know, a lot of their young core,
and even though they've been an imperfect team, as we
saw in last night's game against the Lakers, they feel
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that if they just stripped down the entire roster where
it's just Steph and another great guy and a bunch
of veter minimum players, that's not better than what they're
currently signed up for. So yeah, I think that he
has a lot of what ifs, and you know, a
wish list that he thinks about, but it's not something
that's actually going to happen.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
But by the way, as you're talking Mark Medina joining
us here on Cavino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio,
she's Monte Bolanos. I'm Dan Bayer. Just to kind of
go back, we were talking about if Jimmy Butler were
traded and he went to Golden State, does that work? Like?
How does that? How does that work with Draymond being
there and like like truely like like does something like
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that even work?
Speaker 8 (26:10):
Well? I would say that personality wise it could work. Look,
Jimmy Butler and Draymond Grew would definitely have some practice blows.
I don't think that Draymond would punch Jimmy Butler like
the way he did Jordan Pole because of the way
Jimmy Butler is established as a player and that could
lead to other things. But here's where when it worked, Dan,
the prior point I'm making about Lebron, what would be
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the cost to get Jimmy Butler. The Miami Heat would
want you know, Jonathan Minga, Brandon Podzimski draft picks, basically,
you know, all their nice supplementary players and the Warriors
would say, you know what, thanks, but no thanks because
we love Jimmy Butler as a competitor. Even though the
Warriors have this reputation because of Steph Curry that you know,
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they play with joy, it's more about having this good
working environment and Steph Curry's competitive. So I think from
that standpoint, it's fine about what would be the cost
to get Jimmy Butler. The Warriors won't accept it.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah, I just and obviously it's not about the position.
It's more about your your alpha dog mentality and how
that would work in a locker room. I just don't necessarily,
I don't necessarily see the fit because of when where
Jimmy Butler is gone, he seemed to be the center
of attention, if you will, even if he wasn't the
best player, and everything is so established at Golden State
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that I just I don't. I don't. I don't see
a fifty.
Speaker 8 (27:30):
Here's where I would slightly push back. I'm just not
have to say that it would be come by. But
the things that Jimmy Butler has had issues with with
past teams is when he's played with younger teammates or
people that he didn't respect their work ethic. The Warriors,
Steph Curry epitomizes work ethic. Same thing with Draymond Green,
you know, Steve Kerr. Again, they've had this reputation that, oh, yeah,
(27:51):
it's comb by the culture of joy, but it's more
about the workmanlike environment. They sniff out guys that don't
work hard, and that's why I think that Jimmy Butler
in them would be a great fit from that standpoint.
But again, it would just be how this affect the
rest of the roster.
Speaker 4 (28:07):
Mark, do you believe in the Knicks or is it
all just hype.
Speaker 8 (28:11):
I believe in the Knicks. I just don't know if
it's enough to win a championship only because the Boston Celtics.
I know they lost the Philadelphia last night. But I
think for the most part this season, as long as
they stay healthy, and I have no reason to think
that Jason Tatum and Jaylen Brown can't stay healthy, They're
fine and they have great team chemistry. They've locked every
positional need there is. I know everyone harps on they
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shoot a lot of threes, and you know, sometimes that
makes for games that are hard to watch, But for
the most part, it's because they have good bald movement,
so I still pick them as a favorite. But also Cleveland,
you got to take them seriously. They're strong starts, the
real deal. They have really good roster depth. Every star
player from Donovan Mitchell Evan Mobley has taken up the notch.
Kenny Atkinson's great coach. So it's more about those positive
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things online than anything about the Knicks. I think Karl
Anthony Towns elevated the team with his positional versatility as
a big man. He's improved as a defender. And Jalen
Brunson is a great old school point guard, great leader,
great grinder, great pass or playmaker, comes up with the clutch.
So I don't have any general problems with New York.
It's just that Cleveland and Boston just has two stacked
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teams are hard to beat.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
It's interesting because I do feel in the second half
of the season, when we get to February and we
get to March, we're going to start to have the
in the Eastern Conference. Do you want to be on
the Cleveland side of the bracket or do you want
to be on the Boston side of the bracket? Yeah,
like what we always have, and I think that there
are more people that are going to say, like, I'd
rather be on the Cleveland side than on the Boston side.
We'll see. Obviously that could change if Boston ends up
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moving up and the Cavs fall, but that's a ways away. Mark.
We appreciate the time. Love always talking to you. You're
always generous. Talk to you soon.
Speaker 8 (29:51):
Thanks, Love you, guys, appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Happy on Thanks, Mark madeen Our, Fox Sports Radio, NBA
Insider find him again on Exit, Mark g Underscore.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Miami head coach Jim Larronega stepped down today after thirteen
plus seasons, including the Hurricanes' first Final four appearance in
twenty twenty three. Here is why.
Speaker 6 (30:10):
In his own words, I'm exhausted. I've tried every which
way to keep this going. What shocked me was after
we made it to the Final four just eighteen months ago,
the very first time I met with the players, eight
of them decided they were going to put their name
in the portal and leave. I said, don't you like
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it yet?
Speaker 2 (30:31):
No?
Speaker 1 (30:31):
I love it. I love Miami.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
It's great. But the opportunity to make money someplace else
created a situation that you have to begin to ask
yourself as a coach. What is this all about? And
the answer is it's become professional.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Dan and Monzi back to you, Thank you very much, Isaac.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Do you think coaches wish they could enter the transfer portal?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Well, they always have been able to. And that's that's
the argument that those who are supporting the players and
will hear that comment from Jim Larenega and just roll
their eyes and saying coaches have always done what they've
wanted to do. Kids have been signing national letters of
intend to go to a school to play for a
coach for four or five years, and that coach, you know,
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goes on a nice run the freshman year and ends
up leaving for another job with no repercussions to the
kid who committed to play there four or five years.
The problem with what Jim Larenega is saying. And I
tipped the cap to Matt Jones of Kentucky's Sports Radio,
who made the point on Twitter of Larenega's final four
team at Miami was built via the transfer portal and
(31:39):
was built via those players. In fact, Miami has been
in all sports one of the most active and lucrative spots.
They landed Cam ward, you know, for football and trying
to bring in players via nil. So if there was
a place that you wanted to do it and do
it well, I think Miami would be that place. The
only thing that I would say to what is doing
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now if there's an assistant that's taking over and I'm
not sure if it is likely someone on the staff.
It's a trick that Doug Gottlieb talks a lot about
on his show on Fox Sports Radio. Here we saw
Tony Bennett resign at the beginning of the season before
Virginia season starting, and allows their top assistant to get
the head job and to have that job and maybe
show what they can do and maybe keep that job.
(32:22):
Maybe that's what Jim Larronega is doing here because nothing
has changed for Miami. I would say over the first
month and a half of the season that would make
Jim larra Naga say, Okay, now's the time for me
to quit. You would know that going into the season,
and it's not what's transpired over this last month and
a half for two months that would say it's too
much for me. Guy's been around college basketball for fifty years.
(32:43):
He would know if it's too much entering the season,
so I think he's probably setting it up for someone else.
But his point is I don't believe his point because
of how he maybe benefit from it, but I believe
it in as a whole. Is that just you're not
going to see coaches like him or Jim Beyheim or
Mike Ruzewski, Roy Williams anymore in college hoops. The tom
Izzo's and the bill selves are now the you know,
(33:04):
the ones who are staying there the longest, and however
long they're going to stay who knows. But I don't
think you're gonna see guys at spots for twenty and
thirty years anymore. Just don't think it's realistic.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
This might be a stupid question, and I might be
answering it as I'm asking it, But what is stopping
us school necessarily from being like, hey kid, three year
deal nil?
Speaker 1 (33:24):
At some point that will happen. Okay, Yeah, I mean
there's there's it's just of what they can get elsewhere.
It's like, you want to see what else is behind
door number two and what's behind door number three. So
while you may be getting nil from your current school,
if there's another school that's going to give you a
better offer. Why wouldn't you If that's what they're only
(33:44):
out there for, why wouldn't you do that? I think
that's like true die hard sports. College sports fans are like,
that's not what college sports are about. So so there's this, yeah, yeah,
there's this, there's this this rub that is just nobody's
really happy in this current sense. But there's a lot
of people that are saying, well, how can you blame
these players? They've seemingly been getting the short end of
(34:07):
the stick for so long. Now they're finally getting paid
and coaches don't like it. Tough deal for the coaches,
that's the center.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
Yeah, I don't know. I just saw his Well, you're
getting a free education. Most of you aren't. Isn't that
what it was for a long time? You got a
free education out of it? Yeah, but I know that
that's changed because school is just not valued the same
way as it used to be.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
Sure. Plus, if you know, if you get free tuition,
would you rather that have free tuition or five hundred
thousand dollars?
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Of course, no, of course. But yeah, it's almost like
I understand it because you're also not really allowed to
work if you're a full time, you know, athlete at school.
They don't want you to work. They want you to
focus on the team, and so you also couldn't make money.
So I get it, I understand.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
But yeah, well now you can work. It's funny. It's
not like you would get a job at a pizza place.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
But that's what I meant, Like, they wouldn't want you
to go get a job at a pizza place because
they want you to focus on the team. So it
was always like they couldn't make money. They really were
kind of tied. And now they can make money.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
But but now you're Page Becker's and I'm seeing Nike
ads of her in them all of America, right.
Speaker 4 (35:04):
You know exactly, Yeah, there's an other job.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
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y e R. It's the debate that we always wanted
(36:03):
to know, and it is finally here. Thanks to Athlon
Sports for bringing up the topic that we were all
afraid to talk about. It was the elephant in the
room for so long, Moncy, But finally someone who's had
the guts, dare I say at the balls to bring
(36:25):
up who would win on a one on one game
between Bronnie James and Caitlyn Clark. Finally the debate that
had my Christmas back home in Wisconsin splits along party
lines as they discussed this topic that was on the
minds of so many across America. Would Bronnie James beat
(36:46):
Caitlyn Clark in a game of one on one?
Speaker 9 (36:50):
How much I think the world would pay to see
Bronnie barcyc Bro. He would be her by sixty Bro,
he would legit be her twenty zero are y'all series
right now? Eight ten towns or athletic to her? He
can do everything better than her. She's a girl bro
like he physically way more like simps.
Speaker 7 (37:09):
I'm just saying.
Speaker 9 (37:09):
I mean, she's a good person, but no bro as
a man.
Speaker 6 (37:13):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
That was former NBA player Jeff Tigue on his podcast
discussing the topic of if Bronnie James would be Caitlyn
Clark MANSI do you want to address this this idiot topic?
Speaker 4 (37:27):
It really like, is this a hot take? Because it's not.
Nobody would disagree with you that Bronnie James would be
Kitlyn Clark. If I walked in on a pre show
meeting and he was wanting to talk about this. You
know that gift of Viola Davis where she just grabs
her bags and leaves, that would be what I would do.
I would just grab my bags in a pre show meeting.
If this is what he brought up, that is not
(37:47):
a hot take in any way, shape or form. In fact,
I think it's a bit of a diss that you
brought a Bronnie to compare to Caitlyn Clark.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
Completely disrespectful to everybody, to everyone, I mean, because there
is no there, This isn't this shouldn't.
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Even have been brought up. Do you think Kylen could
be Bronnie? What are you talking? Are they playing horse?
Are they playing a three point shooting contest like we
saw Sabrina and stuff?
Speaker 6 (38:13):
Do like?
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Of course of course he would beat her. This is
not a hot take. This is ridiculous to even think
about it. But yeah, I think it's a bit of
a diss to Bronnie.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
By the way, just on the heels of that, do
you guys remember last year when I told you that
I felt the Sabrina and stuph thing was a precursor
so they could get Kaitlyn Clark in it this year, Yeah,
what is trying to happen? They're trying to get Kaitlin
Clark in it. Of course I'll take the victory lap
on that. Very good.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
Dan.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
There is no doubt. It's not even a debate that
Bronnie James would win. And Jeff Tgue on the Club
five to twenty podcast that's his podcast, brought up the
topic and then Athlon ended up making the article about
that conversation. It's the only place you'll see because it's
the only place that apparently thinks it's worthy of an
actual article. It's it's absurd women college basketball team, top
(39:02):
tier college basketball teams practice against men guys who played
in high school that go to the university and maybe
weren't good enough to play college basketball, but to give
them a fight. That's that's what we're talking about here.
I don't think anybody wants to see that in a
one on one game.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
I don't think anyone wants to see that at all.
Speaker 1 (39:20):
Yeah, it's in the men's and women's game are just
completely different. I think you actually have to look at
them as two different sports, and I think if you
do that, you'll have an appreciation for both in what
they do a lot better. Yeah, there is no discussion.
I remember the clip when Serena Williams was on David
Letterman and she and he asked her if you know
(39:41):
if a man could beat her, and she said, if
I played Andy Murray, who was you know, maybe number
one at the time of the interview, she said, I
would lose six love six love in maybe five to
six minutes. It's it's a different sport.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
It's a different sport. And I you know it said
to you in the pre show, like tennis would be
the one thing where maybe that I try to beat
my others in and you can't. It's not the same.
And that's I think you just hit it right on
the head. NBA and WNBA are just different sports. If
this was two on two co ed, okay, you know maybe,
but that's not it one on one? What are we
(40:14):
even saying?
Speaker 1 (40:14):
Yeah, I just I find it absurd, but hey, we
at least gave three minutes to the absurdity of this debate.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 1 (40:21):
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