March 25, 2025 • 26 mins
(March 25, 2025)
Trump Administration accidentally included reporter in a group chat about upcoming military strikes in Yemen. I didn’t think it could be real. Then the bombs started falling. With the release of its fourth and final round of color-coded hazard maps this morning, California’s firefighting agency is showing just how much of the state is prone to wildfire — and how much that computationally-modeled danger zone has grown since the state issued its last round of local hazard maps more than a decade ago. A federal judge refused Monday to withdraw his block on President Donald Trump’s deportation flights of alleged members of Venezuela’s crime gang Tren de Araragua under the Alien Enemies Act. If you’re one of the 15 million people who shared your DNA with 23andMe, it’s time to delete your data.
Trump Administration accidentally included reporter in a group chat about upcoming military strikes in Yemen. I didn’t think it could be real. Then the bombs started falling. With the release of its fourth and final round of color-coded hazard maps this morning, California’s firefighting agency is showing just how much of the state is prone to wildfire — and how much that computationally-modeled danger zone has grown since the state issued its last round of local hazard maps more than a decade ago. A federal judge refused Monday to withdraw his block on President Donald Trump’s deportation flights of alleged members of Venezuela’s crime gang Tren de Araragua under the Alien Enemies Act. If you’re one of the 15 million people who shared your DNA with 23andMe, it’s time to delete your data.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Thank you engaging voice Guy. Pleasure being with you.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
We'll talk about whether or not you are now living
in a Fire's on his new maps have been released.
It's coming up here after an update on the news
with Amy King and about a quarter after first. The
big news is that the Trump officials are facing some
backlash and Democrats are jumping on it after it's revealed
that the plans to attack the Hooti rebels in Yemen.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
We're being discussed via an unsecured chat app. KTLA had
that story.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Secret war plans revealed in a group chat involving the
nation's top security officials and a journalist who is added
to the conversation by mistake. Tonight, President Trump.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Says, I still don't know how you get added by mistake.
I'm having real difficulty understanding this. I mean, we've all
butt dialed somebody, but we don't but add to a
group chat. I have enough trouble trying to figure out
how to add someone to a group chat. I can't
imagine accidentally doing it.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
He knows nothing about the incident, and Secretary of Defense
Pete Hegseth is denying the allegations.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Well, the Trump administration confirms the text threat quote appears
to be legitimate.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Sandra Mitchell live in the KTLA News Center with details.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Cendra, Yeah, the messages appear to be authentic. That is
the word from the White House National Security Council spokesperson tonight. Now,
if it is true, it would be a stunning breach
of national security. Still, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth is adamant.
He says, nothing confidential.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Was shared, all right, So what do we know? Officially?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
The reporter says, I was added to the chat. The
Department of Defense says, yep, it's legit. Sec death. What
does he say?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
As the US launched attacks on whot rebels in Yemen,
A journalist says he knew exactly what was unfolding. He
already told us this because he was mistakenly included in
a group chat by Mike Walls, President Trump's National security advisor,
with top officials sharing details of the war plan.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
He was texting war plans. He was texting attack plans,
when targets were going to be targeted, how they were
going to be targeted. Who was at the targets when
the next sequence of attacks were happening.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Appearing on CNN tonight, the editor of The Atlantic, Jeffrey Goldberg,
detailed how he mistakenly was included in an encrypted messaging
app with Vice President jd Vance, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth,
and fifteen other top officials talking about military strikes in Yemen.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
So they accidentally added a journalist, and it just happened
to be accidentally one of the one of the top journalists.
It wasn't like they got somebody from the Poughkeepsie Weekly.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
I didn't know what it was or or who it was.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I thought it was a hoax.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
I thought somebody was trying to entrap me.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
It was not a hoax. Back on March fifteenth, two
hours after Goldberg apparently got the tax the bombing began.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
Nobody was texting war plans.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
And that's all I have to say about that.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
With some Democrats now furious over the current security breach
and calling for an immediate hearing on the matter, hag
Seth denied the allegation and attacked Goldberg's credibility.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
They deceitful and highly discredited so called journalists who's made
a profession of peddling hoax his time and time again.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Christident Trump also criticizing the.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
But how does that change the situation? Listen to what
HEGs has said.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Now, remember it's been confirmed by the Department of Defense,
if you're unfamiliar, The Secretary of Defense is over the
Department of Defense. So his department confirms, yes, this was
the check, Yes he was added to it. And then
Hegxith's response is, well the journalist is I don't like him.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
They deceitful and highly discredited so called journalist who's made
a profession of pedaling hoaxes time and time again.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
All right, even even taking what Hexith says and assuming
that's true, why was a deceitful and discredited so called
journalist who pedals hoaxes added to your war plans group chat?
And well, those weren't war plans. I've seen the report.
(04:42):
There's receipts, it's screenshots of the of the chat. It's
not as though it's up for dispute. His own his
own department said, yeah, that's legit. Yep, that was the chat.
So what is Hexith saying here? Hexyth, a former television
news guy, should know just because you yell at the
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messenger doesn't mean the messenger was wrong or that the
message was errant. So this feels a lot like feels
a lot like when my daughter's cat finds itself stuck
in a paper bag and just starts freaking out. It
doesn't know where the opening is. It just starts swatting
at the inside of the paper bag. I'm gonna get
out of here somehow. In other words, he's throwing haymakers
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and they're not really landing. He's just throwing haymakers. Because
the narrative when you start talking with your coworkers, and
you'll talk to some coworkers that are hard left, you'll
talk to friends that might be far right, you'll talk
to people that are in the middle, and you're discussing
this and you're saying, I can't believe they did this.
And someone's gonna say that journalist is trash. Pete Hegsith
says he's discredited, he pedals hoaxes, and you go, where's
(05:50):
the lie. Even if you don't like the journalist, even
if this journalist was full of trash before.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Even if this wasn't a journalist, if.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
They somehow accidentally added your plumber to the group chat,
and the plumber took screenshots of the group chat. You
can't come out and say this is a terrible plumber.
My sink is still leaking after he was there. It
doesn't change the content of the group chat, and it
doesn't change the fact that their screenshots to show.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yep, he was in it.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
It also doesn't change the fact that the Department of
Defense acknowledged Yep, it's legit. So while you continue swinging
at the inside of that paper bag, you're not getting
any closer to finding your way out.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
President Trump also criticizing The Atlantic and denied knowledge of
the attacks and said the attack on the Hooties was successful, and.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Again, attacking the Atlantic doesn't change the fact that there
are receipts.
Speaker 7 (06:48):
I don't know anything about it. I'm not a big
fan of The Atlantic. To me, it's a magazine that's
going out of business. I think it's not much of
a magazine. But I know nothing about it. The attack
was very effective. I can tell you that I don't
know anything about it.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
All Right, Again, we're attacking the Atlantic. We're saying they're
a trash organization. We're saying that this journalist is terrible. If,
in fact, The Atlantic is a bad news publication. If
this journalist is so bad at his job and is
discredited and is not someone anyone should listen to, why
(07:21):
was he added to the group chat? Oh, but it
was an accident. Why is he even in your contact list?
How does he end up on the signal app with
everybody else? The Vice President, the Secretary of Defense, the
National Security Advisor, and random guy who we all hate.
(07:42):
It's strange I have a group chat with a bunch
of guys.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
We do. I'm gonna get geeky here for a minute.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
We do every year we do a trip to Las
Vegas and we have this fantasy football draft and get together.
We hang out at the pool, we go get some drinks,
We talk about everybody's football teams and how bad they are,
and then throughout the year we converse often about sports,
sometimes about life, about my buddy's third marriage since since
the league got together, and how he's a serial womanizer,
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another dude who's an absolute drunkard and continues to post
pictures and we simultaneously try to counsel him and egg
him on because we're dudes and that's what we do.
We had a guy that left the group. He was mad,
he was bitter at the rest of the group. Do
you know what we all did? We deleted his contact
info because we didn't like him anymore. How is it
you have a guy that is discredited, you claim as
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a so called journalist, a hoax peddler, who works for
a terrible news organization, one that's failing going down the tubes,
won't be in business much longer, and yet he's still
so readily available in your contact list that he could
accidentally be added to the war chat? Is there anyone
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else being accidentally invited into these chats? Do we accidentally
invite Elon Musk into our classified information chats? Are we
accidentally inviting Vladimir Putin into our our chats? Who else
is being accidentally invited into our unsecure classified information group texts?
(09:20):
There are so many questions that this unforced error is
going to be significantly detrimental. Someone is going to lose
their job, you mark my word. Somebody's going to lose
their job over this, And I'm going to guess that's
the security advisor Waltz. Michael Waltz. I think he's probably
gonna lose his job. Because he's the one that accidentally
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added the journalist to the unsecure group chat. And then
of course the Democrats are going to hammer on after
everything you talked about with Hillary Clinton's emails on an
or on a private server, how could you let this
happen on a chat service that we don't run. There
are so many questions that are going to continue to
(10:02):
be asked about this. Just mark my words on that,
all right. Didn't want to talk fire for just a moment.
You heard the Conway's promo that some of the firefighters
are showing high levels of lead and mercury, the ones
that fought the Eating and the Palisades fires, which makes
you wonder how they got that.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
What's where did it come from? They were breathing into smoke.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
The smoke obviously had levels of lead and mercury in it,
and it makes you wonder what contained it that burned
and then what's the word a rated that I guess
not aerrated, vaporized it and then put it into the smoke.
But we are seeing calfires come out and they said
fire risk is.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Higher in far more areas than.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
What we have said in the past. KTLA was reporting
on the new fire map.
Speaker 8 (10:47):
Well two minutes after wild fires ravage our region, cal
Fire has released updated fire maps for southern California. This
marks the first time they have been updated in more
than a decade. The maps are compiled by the State
Forestry and Fire Protection Department and designate three levels of
fire hazards, moderate, high, and very high. This is based
on variables like vegetation, terrain, and recent burn history. Updated
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maps for fifteen counties in central California were released two
weeks ago, and more than one point two million acres
were added into the hazard zones.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
All right, and a total of three and a half
million acres statewide. Now here's where this gets interesting. According
to Orange County Register, new fire hazard zones appear to
leave out at least half of the neighborhoods that were
burned during the Eton fire. So you have people that
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live in areas that were decimated by fire, and cal
Fire has not added those neighborhoods to any sort of
even moderate risk area. The State Forestry and Fire Protection
Department compiled the maps. They indicate where the probability of
the fire is the greatest over the next thirty to
fifty years, and then with that you have to consider
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the different potential implications for rebuilding and some of the
homes and businesses that are rebuilding are We're going to have.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
New building codes.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Because of the new hazards that would extend the hazard map,
extends some of the susceptible areas a little bit further.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Into the communities.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
And again when you talk about the new building codes,
I think there need to be some changes. Some changes
have been entered into the new building codes, including some
of the fire or what is it, the ember resistant vents,
that sort of thing. You have to wonder about some
of the building materials again talking back on the firefighters
that inhaled lead and mercury.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Will there be.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Will there be codes that address materials that are being
used to make sure that they don't have any of
those happiness metals that are a part of those But
I have to wonder how much this is going going
to delay some of the rebuilding efforts, how much additional
cost this may put on some of the additional building efforts.
In Altadena, hazard maps released at least fourteen years ago,
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designated just three to six blocks along the northern edge
of the neighborhoods is being a very high fire severity zone,
and the previous map on I had a very small
strip along the foothills in the bottom of the mountains.
They've extended those a bit further, but as we know,
the fire moved further into Altadena than even what these.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Maps had projected in the past.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
If we were to equate this to a different natural threat.
You know that when you buy a house, you have
to determine whether or not it's in a flood zone.
Some areas are high, you know, high flood risk areas.
Others are not high flood risk areas. So imagine if
you have a home that's in a moderate flood risk area,
and and so you have to have certain codes, you
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have to have certain sealants along the foundation of your home,
whatever that might be. And then all of a sudden,
you have this massive flood that comes through and it
decimates a home, and it creates all kinds of havoc
and you have to be evacuated. And then they come
out with a new flood risk map and they go, yeah,
but this home that was just just deemed to be
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a flood loss that's not really in a dangerous area.
Imagine if after Katrina evaluators went through New Orleans and
they said, well, this whole ninth Ward that was underwater,
that's not really a high risk area. We would say,
we're still draining. How do you say it's not a
high risk area. We're still draining the water from the flood.
(14:41):
In the same way we're saying, how do you say
this is not a high risk area. We're still shoveling ashes.
How is this not high fire risk? I'm still sifting
through the remains of what used to be my house,
and you're telling me there isn't a high fire risk.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
There is a high fire risk. And so some people
are saying swinging a miss.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Things are continuing to move very rapidly in this fire
hose of chaos that is the current administration. Whether it's
bombings and Yemen, leaks about bombings in Yemen on unsecured chats,
or its arguments with the court system.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
There's just so much happening.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
And the latest arguments with the court system go back
to a judge and the judge says, nope, the block
remains in place.
Speaker 9 (15:29):
This morning, another two hundred Venezuela nationals arrived in the
capital of Caracas after being deported by the Trump administration. Today,
three judges on an appeals panel in DC are set
to hear the controversial case of three previous planeloads of
Venezuela and migrants who were deported and they ended up
in a notorious prison in Elsalvador. The Trump administration is
now looking to reverse a federal judge's order trying to
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halt deportations. This morning, Judge James Bosburg ruled the Venezuelan
migrants deserve to have a court hearing before their deportations
to determine whether or not they belong to the violent
gang trend de ragua. Mister President, do you think you
have the authority the power to round up people, to
port them, and then you're under no obligation to a
court to show the evidence against them.
Speaker 7 (16:12):
Well, that's what the law says, and that's what our
country needs the administration.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
So the slippery slope on this, of course, is that
by simply declaring anyone a terrorists, you can deport them
if there is no due process, if there is no
recourse by the accused, then are we in fact a
nation of laws?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Do we have individual rights?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
If all it takes is an accusation by someone in
authority to say you're a bad person. I can do
whatever I want to you because I have the authority
to do so. Do you have any rights? And I
know what you're thinking to think, well, that'll never happen
to me. And I get what you're saying, But at
what point? At what point do we draw the line?
Speaker 6 (16:54):
Right?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
What happens when you actually have to show evidence they well,
they're not US citizen? Well don't we have to have
due process where they could appeal the fact that you
say they're not here legally. We already know that we are.
We're detaining people who do have permanent residency simply because
the administration says, well that person's a terrorists, we're going
to revoke their visas. So is anybody safe is the
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big question? And a judge says you.
Speaker 9 (17:20):
Can't do it that way, went ahead with the deportations
despite the judges ruling to turn the planes carrying them around.
Boseburg warn there will be consequences if he decides his
order was deliberately disobeyed. President Trump ramping up attacks on Boseburg,
demanding heaping impeached or disbarred, and Trump's borders are defiant.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
We're going to keep targeting the worst of the worst,
which we've been doing since day one in deporting from
the United States through the various flaws on the books.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
They are targeting the worst of the worst. At least
they tell us that these people are the worst of
the worst. There's no evidence though. See, this is the issue.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Because we also are getting stories of people like this
couple in Orange County. If you didn't hear about this
as a couple of Orange County, been here thirty five years,
raised their kids, have been paying taxes, and they're deported.
No criminal background, no criminal history by all accounts. Their
only crime is the misdemeanor of not having documents in
this country. They pay their taxes better than most Americans do.
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But they're being deported. Are they the worst of the worst?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Right?
Speaker 1 (18:21):
So you go, well, they broke the law, and you're
absolutely right, they broke the law they did. Is that
the priority? In other words, I heard I heard the
promo that John Cobbolt has coming up for a show today,
and he's right. If all of a sudden, HP designs
they're going to start enforcing speeding and you've been speeding
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and they haven't pulled you over in the past, Well,
today's the day that they enforce it. It's just the
way it is. And he's one hundred percent correct on that.
But let's let's dive a little bit deeper.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Then.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Suppose that you are driving with a group of cars
and we know how this happens. You end up in clusters, right,
or if this were racing with French and tight pants,
we would call this the peloton. So let's say that
you are in this peloton and you're you're going down
the freeway and everybody's doing eighty and then somebody in
a lifted f two fifty comes flying by you. Somehow
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I don't know who's flying on the on the freeways,
but somehow they found a pocket and they.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Go flying by you. So you're driving with a bunch
of people.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Let's say there's six seven of you that are going eighty,
and this truck goes flying by, and you go, that
car that truck is easily doing ninety or ninety five,
and then you see Punch and John pull out and
they hit their lights and you go, they're gonna get
that sucker, but they don't. They pull you over and
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they give you a ticket, and you say, wait a minute, am.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I the bigger threat?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Because I just watched this guy on in F two
fifty doing ninety five that just passed me? And I
know you saw him because I saw him past you
before you pulled out and then and then stop me.
And the officer goes, yeah, but you broke the law.
The officer is one hundred percent correct, You did break
the law. Law you do deserve that ticket. Is that
the priority that we want our law enforcement working on?
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Or do we want law enforcement working harder on the
guy who is a bigger law breaker driving a vehicle
that is much larger than yours, that.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Can do far more damage.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
And where we also have to be careful is just
because we know one guy is driving an F two
fifty at ninety five miles an hour doesn't mean that
everybody driving a pickup is violating the law. And this
is where the judge says there has to be due process.
If you say someone is a member of a gang
that you've deemed a terrorist organization, doesn't that person have
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the right to show up and say no, I'm not
And isn't the onus i'm the accuser to provide the
evidence that, yes, that person is a threat to national security,
in the same way that if you pull me over
and I'm driving my pickup truck and you give me
a ticket because I have a pickup truck. Therefore, or
I must be somebody who speeds and creates havoc, don't
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I have the right to appeal that and say, show
me the radar, show me the evidence that you caught
me speeding. This is what's at issue, And instead what
we hear is the judge is a bad person. I
don't know that we're actually making things safer this way.
Yesterday I was talking with you about this, twenty three
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and Me filing for bankruptcy.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Maybe you remember the story ABC seven was reporting on
aenetic testing company.
Speaker 10 (21:30):
Twenty three and Me has now filed for Chapter eleven
bankruptcy protection. The firm, valued at fifty million dollars, is
pushing for a buyout. So far, the board has rejected
all offers, now saying a court supervised sale is the
best path forward. Twenty three and Me will continue operations
during this process. This, of course, comes just one day
after California Attorney General Rob Bonte issued a consumer alert
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about the potential of this very thing happening, reminding customers
consider invoking their rights to have twenty three and meters
delete their data and destroy genetic samples.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, destroy genetic samples means rinse, you're spitting down the sink,
because what happens is you spit in the tube, you
mail it to them, and then they keep it and
they've got a big safe I'm not joking it. They
have a big vault filled with little samples of spittle
and they hang on to that stuff, and then they
have the analysis comes out, and then that data is
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stored on their servers. And what happens is you can
access the data, you can download that data, you can
save your data. So while Rob Bonta says you should
delete the data, exercise your right to delete the data.
You can download your data so that you will still
have access to it. But it does get a bit
more complicated than that. And I talked about this yesterday
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and I said, I wonder what's gonna happen with all
these you know what's gonna happen with the samples, what's
gonna happen with the with the data? With everybody's portfolio
of of of their information. Because twenty three and meters
will like other genetic testing companies, you can use that information,
and twenty three meters is the second largest beyond ancestry.
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You can use that information to evaluate some of your
health risks. That's twenty three and meters. Big thing is
that they do the genetic testing, so you can see
do I have a higher risk of, say, breast cancer,
do I have a higher risk of developing Alzheimer's, whatever
it might be, and then you can use that accordingly
so that you can plan your life out and then
make sure your funeral plans are in place. You don't
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have to rely on your terrible children because they stopped
loving you the minute that they moved out.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
So what happens with your info?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Though, even if you download it, if you're someone that
uses it for genetic testing, right, you've got it. If
you're somebody that uses that for piecing together, say a
family tree, you're going to lose the tree what you
can do.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
You're going to lose the connections.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
You're gonna lose the details on it because as everyone
is deleting their information from it, all of a sudden,
it no longer connects on their database. So suppose that
I'm going to use a simple eggs sample here. Suppose
that it's you and your sibling and you've both spit
in a tube and you mail it in, and then
you've got a profile that says here's your profile, and
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you you say, am I matching with anyone else who's
made their profile available for potential mask matching? And it says, actually,
your your profile matches your siblings. So your your brother
or your sister here it is.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Now.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Imagine that your brother or your sister deletes their profile
all of a sudden, it no longer matches you.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
See.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
So what some people are doing right now is they're
taking screenshots of those matches because even if you if
you download your profile, it is not showing any connections
because your profile on your your computer, your cloud, whoever
you say it, if it is not tied with theirs,
then it doesn't it doesn't show that connection any longer.
So some people are taking some screenshots ahead of time
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to say, oh, I want to make sure I don't
lose my great great great great uncle and find out
you know that they came over on a boat from Norway.
So they're taking screenshots before a bunch of data gets deleted.
You don't necessarily need to delete it quite yet. Bonta
is warning you you could take you could take advantage
of this.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
You should do it.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
If the sale goes through and you're concerned about where
that data might go, you can delete it. You can
take care of it right now if you want. You
can take care of it in the future, but there
are there are some questions and if they end up
going dark, then you can delete it also. That'll be
part of any bankruptcy filing, is to make sure that
the eyes are dotted and the t's are crossed. Don't
know if they're going to actually liquidate though, because the
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co founder, who owns forty nine percent of the stock,
she's part of the group that keeps blocking the sale
because she wants to buy it. Twenty three meters used
to be worth, by the way, six billion dollars. Now
it's only worth fifty million because they had a data
breach in twenty twenty three and people freaked out, as
well they should, because not only would you be losing
your social security information and things like that, but all
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of a sudden, people are literally seeing what your DNA
is made up of.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
You talk about identity theft.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
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We'll talk about whether or not you are now living
in a Fire's on his new maps have been released.
It's coming up here after an update on the news
with Amy King and about a quarter after first. The
big news is that the Trump officials are facing some
backlash and Democrats are jumping on it after it's revealed
that the plans to attack the Hooti rebels in Yemen.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
We're being discussed via an unsecured chat app. KTLA had
that story.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Secret war plans revealed in a group chat involving the
nation's top security officials and a journalist who is added
to the conversation by mistake. Tonight, President Trump.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Says, I still don't know how you get added by mistake.
I'm having real difficulty understanding this. I mean, we've all
butt dialed somebody, but we don't but add to a
group chat. I have enough trouble trying to figure out
how to add someone to a group chat. I can't
imagine accidentally doing it.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
He knows nothing about the incident, and Secretary of Defense
Pete Hegseth is denying the allegations.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Well, the Trump administration confirms the text threat quote appears
to be legitimate.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Sandra Mitchell live in the KTLA News Center with details.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Cendra, Yeah, the messages appear to be authentic. That is
the word from the White House National Security Council spokesperson tonight. Now,
if it is true, it would be a stunning breach
of national security. Still, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth is adamant.
He says, nothing confidential.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
Was shared, all right, So what do we know? Officially?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
The reporter says, I was added to the chat. The
Department of Defense says, yep, it's legit. Sec death. What
does he say?
Speaker 4 (01:54):
As the US launched attacks on whot rebels in Yemen,
A journalist says he knew exactly what was unfolding. He
already told us this because he was mistakenly included in
a group chat by Mike Walls, President Trump's National security advisor,
with top officials sharing details of the war plan.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
He was texting war plans. He was texting attack plans,
when targets were going to be targeted, how they were
going to be targeted. Who was at the targets when
the next sequence of attacks were happening.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Appearing on CNN tonight, the editor of The Atlantic, Jeffrey Goldberg,
detailed how he mistakenly was included in an encrypted messaging
app with Vice President jd Vance, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth,
and fifteen other top officials talking about military strikes in Yemen.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
So they accidentally added a journalist, and it just happened
to be accidentally one of the one of the top journalists.
It wasn't like they got somebody from the Poughkeepsie Weekly.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
I didn't know what it was or or who it was.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
I thought it was a hoax.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
I thought somebody was trying to entrap me.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
It was not a hoax. Back on March fifteenth, two
hours after Goldberg apparently got the tax the bombing began.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
Nobody was texting war plans.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
And that's all I have to say about that.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
With some Democrats now furious over the current security breach
and calling for an immediate hearing on the matter, hag
Seth denied the allegation and attacked Goldberg's credibility.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
They deceitful and highly discredited so called journalists who's made
a profession of peddling hoax his time and time again.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Christident Trump also criticizing the.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
But how does that change the situation? Listen to what
HEGs has said.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Now, remember it's been confirmed by the Department of Defense,
if you're unfamiliar, The Secretary of Defense is over the
Department of Defense. So his department confirms, yes, this was
the check, Yes he was added to it. And then
Hegxith's response is, well the journalist is I don't like him.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
They deceitful and highly discredited so called journalist who's made
a profession of pedaling hoaxes time and time again.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
All right, even even taking what Hexith says and assuming
that's true, why was a deceitful and discredited so called
journalist who pedals hoaxes added to your war plans group chat?
And well, those weren't war plans. I've seen the report.
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There's receipts, it's screenshots of the of the chat. It's
not as though it's up for dispute. His own his
own department said, yeah, that's legit. Yep, that was the chat.
So what is Hexith saying here? Hexyth, a former television
news guy, should know just because you yell at the
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messenger doesn't mean the messenger was wrong or that the
message was errant. So this feels a lot like feels
a lot like when my daughter's cat finds itself stuck
in a paper bag and just starts freaking out. It
doesn't know where the opening is. It just starts swatting
at the inside of the paper bag. I'm gonna get
out of here somehow. In other words, he's throwing haymakers
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and they're not really landing. He's just throwing haymakers. Because
the narrative when you start talking with your coworkers, and
you'll talk to some coworkers that are hard left, you'll
talk to friends that might be far right, you'll talk
to people that are in the middle, and you're discussing
this and you're saying, I can't believe they did this.
And someone's gonna say that journalist is trash. Pete Hegsith
says he's discredited, he pedals hoaxes, and you go, where's
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the lie. Even if you don't like the journalist, even
if this journalist was full of trash before.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Even if this wasn't a journalist, if.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
They somehow accidentally added your plumber to the group chat,
and the plumber took screenshots of the group chat. You
can't come out and say this is a terrible plumber.
My sink is still leaking after he was there. It
doesn't change the content of the group chat, and it
doesn't change the fact that their screenshots to show.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Yep, he was in it.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
It also doesn't change the fact that the Department of
Defense acknowledged Yep, it's legit. So while you continue swinging
at the inside of that paper bag, you're not getting
any closer to finding your way out.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
President Trump also criticizing The Atlantic and denied knowledge of
the attacks and said the attack on the Hooties was successful, and.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Again, attacking the Atlantic doesn't change the fact that there
are receipts.
Speaker 7 (06:48):
I don't know anything about it. I'm not a big
fan of The Atlantic. To me, it's a magazine that's
going out of business. I think it's not much of
a magazine. But I know nothing about it. The attack
was very effective. I can tell you that I don't
know anything about it.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
All Right, Again, we're attacking the Atlantic. We're saying they're
a trash organization. We're saying that this journalist is terrible. If,
in fact, The Atlantic is a bad news publication. If
this journalist is so bad at his job and is
discredited and is not someone anyone should listen to, why
(07:21):
was he added to the group chat? Oh, but it
was an accident. Why is he even in your contact list?
How does he end up on the signal app with
everybody else? The Vice President, the Secretary of Defense, the
National Security Advisor, and random guy who we all hate.
(07:42):
It's strange I have a group chat with a bunch
of guys.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
We do. I'm gonna get geeky here for a minute.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
We do every year we do a trip to Las
Vegas and we have this fantasy football draft and get together.
We hang out at the pool, we go get some drinks,
We talk about everybody's football teams and how bad they are,
and then throughout the year we converse often about sports,
sometimes about life, about my buddy's third marriage since since
the league got together, and how he's a serial womanizer,
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another dude who's an absolute drunkard and continues to post
pictures and we simultaneously try to counsel him and egg
him on because we're dudes and that's what we do.
We had a guy that left the group. He was mad,
he was bitter at the rest of the group. Do
you know what we all did? We deleted his contact
info because we didn't like him anymore. How is it
you have a guy that is discredited, you claim as
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a so called journalist, a hoax peddler, who works for
a terrible news organization, one that's failing going down the tubes,
won't be in business much longer, and yet he's still
so readily available in your contact list that he could
accidentally be added to the war chat? Is there anyone
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else being accidentally invited into these chats? Do we accidentally
invite Elon Musk into our classified information chats? Are we
accidentally inviting Vladimir Putin into our our chats? Who else
is being accidentally invited into our unsecure classified information group texts?
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There are so many questions that this unforced error is
going to be significantly detrimental. Someone is going to lose
their job, you mark my word. Somebody's going to lose
their job over this, And I'm going to guess that's
the security advisor Waltz. Michael Waltz. I think he's probably
gonna lose his job. Because he's the one that accidentally
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added the journalist to the unsecure group chat. And then
of course the Democrats are going to hammer on after
everything you talked about with Hillary Clinton's emails on an
or on a private server, how could you let this
happen on a chat service that we don't run. There
are so many questions that are going to continue to
(10:02):
be asked about this. Just mark my words on that,
all right. Didn't want to talk fire for just a moment.
You heard the Conway's promo that some of the firefighters
are showing high levels of lead and mercury, the ones
that fought the Eating and the Palisades fires, which makes
you wonder how they got that.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
What's where did it come from? They were breathing into smoke.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
The smoke obviously had levels of lead and mercury in it,
and it makes you wonder what contained it that burned
and then what's the word a rated that I guess
not aerrated, vaporized it and then put it into the smoke.
But we are seeing calfires come out and they said
fire risk is.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Higher in far more areas than.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
What we have said in the past. KTLA was reporting
on the new fire map.
Speaker 8 (10:47):
Well two minutes after wild fires ravage our region, cal
Fire has released updated fire maps for southern California. This
marks the first time they have been updated in more
than a decade. The maps are compiled by the State
Forestry and Fire Protection Department and designate three levels of
fire hazards, moderate, high, and very high. This is based
on variables like vegetation, terrain, and recent burn history. Updated
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maps for fifteen counties in central California were released two
weeks ago, and more than one point two million acres
were added into the hazard zones.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
All right, and a total of three and a half
million acres statewide. Now here's where this gets interesting. According
to Orange County Register, new fire hazard zones appear to
leave out at least half of the neighborhoods that were
burned during the Eton fire. So you have people that
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live in areas that were decimated by fire, and cal
Fire has not added those neighborhoods to any sort of
even moderate risk area. The State Forestry and Fire Protection
Department compiled the maps. They indicate where the probability of
the fire is the greatest over the next thirty to
fifty years, and then with that you have to consider
(12:03):
the different potential implications for rebuilding and some of the
homes and businesses that are rebuilding are We're going to have.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
New building codes.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
Because of the new hazards that would extend the hazard map,
extends some of the susceptible areas a little bit further.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
Into the communities.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
And again when you talk about the new building codes,
I think there need to be some changes. Some changes
have been entered into the new building codes, including some
of the fire or what is it, the ember resistant vents,
that sort of thing. You have to wonder about some
of the building materials again talking back on the firefighters
that inhaled lead and mercury.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Will there be.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Will there be codes that address materials that are being
used to make sure that they don't have any of
those happiness metals that are a part of those But
I have to wonder how much this is going going
to delay some of the rebuilding efforts, how much additional
cost this may put on some of the additional building efforts.
In Altadena, hazard maps released at least fourteen years ago,
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designated just three to six blocks along the northern edge
of the neighborhoods is being a very high fire severity zone,
and the previous map on I had a very small
strip along the foothills in the bottom of the mountains.
They've extended those a bit further, but as we know,
the fire moved further into Altadena than even what these.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Maps had projected in the past.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
If we were to equate this to a different natural threat.
You know that when you buy a house, you have
to determine whether or not it's in a flood zone.
Some areas are high, you know, high flood risk areas.
Others are not high flood risk areas. So imagine if
you have a home that's in a moderate flood risk area,
and and so you have to have certain codes, you
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have to have certain sealants along the foundation of your home,
whatever that might be. And then all of a sudden,
you have this massive flood that comes through and it
decimates a home, and it creates all kinds of havoc
and you have to be evacuated. And then they come
out with a new flood risk map and they go, yeah,
but this home that was just just deemed to be
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a flood loss that's not really in a dangerous area.
Imagine if after Katrina evaluators went through New Orleans and
they said, well, this whole ninth Ward that was underwater,
that's not really a high risk area. We would say,
we're still draining. How do you say it's not a
high risk area. We're still draining the water from the flood.
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In the same way we're saying, how do you say
this is not a high risk area. We're still shoveling ashes.
How is this not high fire risk? I'm still sifting
through the remains of what used to be my house,
and you're telling me there isn't a high fire risk.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
There is a high fire risk. And so some people
are saying swinging a miss.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Things are continuing to move very rapidly in this fire
hose of chaos that is the current administration. Whether it's
bombings and Yemen, leaks about bombings in Yemen on unsecured chats,
or its arguments with the court system.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
There's just so much happening.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
And the latest arguments with the court system go back
to a judge and the judge says, nope, the block
remains in place.
Speaker 9 (15:29):
This morning, another two hundred Venezuela nationals arrived in the
capital of Caracas after being deported by the Trump administration. Today,
three judges on an appeals panel in DC are set
to hear the controversial case of three previous planeloads of
Venezuela and migrants who were deported and they ended up
in a notorious prison in Elsalvador. The Trump administration is
now looking to reverse a federal judge's order trying to
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halt deportations. This morning, Judge James Bosburg ruled the Venezuelan
migrants deserve to have a court hearing before their deportations
to determine whether or not they belong to the violent
gang trend de ragua. Mister President, do you think you
have the authority the power to round up people, to
port them, and then you're under no obligation to a
court to show the evidence against them.
Speaker 7 (16:12):
Well, that's what the law says, and that's what our
country needs the administration.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
So the slippery slope on this, of course, is that
by simply declaring anyone a terrorists, you can deport them
if there is no due process, if there is no
recourse by the accused, then are we in fact a
nation of laws?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Do we have individual rights?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
If all it takes is an accusation by someone in
authority to say you're a bad person. I can do
whatever I want to you because I have the authority
to do so. Do you have any rights? And I
know what you're thinking to think, well, that'll never happen
to me. And I get what you're saying, But at
what point? At what point do we draw the line?
Speaker 6 (16:54):
Right?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
What happens when you actually have to show evidence they well,
they're not US citizen? Well don't we have to have
due process where they could appeal the fact that you
say they're not here legally. We already know that we are.
We're detaining people who do have permanent residency simply because
the administration says, well that person's a terrorists, we're going
to revoke their visas. So is anybody safe is the
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big question? And a judge says you.
Speaker 9 (17:20):
Can't do it that way, went ahead with the deportations
despite the judges ruling to turn the planes carrying them around.
Boseburg warn there will be consequences if he decides his
order was deliberately disobeyed. President Trump ramping up attacks on Boseburg,
demanding heaping impeached or disbarred, and Trump's borders are defiant.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
We're going to keep targeting the worst of the worst,
which we've been doing since day one in deporting from
the United States through the various flaws on the books.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
They are targeting the worst of the worst. At least
they tell us that these people are the worst of
the worst. There's no evidence though. See, this is the issue.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Because we also are getting stories of people like this
couple in Orange County. If you didn't hear about this
as a couple of Orange County, been here thirty five years,
raised their kids, have been paying taxes, and they're deported.
No criminal background, no criminal history by all accounts. Their
only crime is the misdemeanor of not having documents in
this country. They pay their taxes better than most Americans do.
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But they're being deported. Are they the worst of the worst?
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Right?
Speaker 1 (18:21):
So you go, well, they broke the law, and you're
absolutely right, they broke the law they did. Is that
the priority? In other words, I heard I heard the
promo that John Cobbolt has coming up for a show today,
and he's right. If all of a sudden, HP designs
they're going to start enforcing speeding and you've been speeding
(18:43):
and they haven't pulled you over in the past, Well,
today's the day that they enforce it. It's just the
way it is. And he's one hundred percent correct on that.
But let's let's dive a little bit deeper.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Then.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Suppose that you are driving with a group of cars
and we know how this happens. You end up in clusters, right,
or if this were racing with French and tight pants,
we would call this the peloton. So let's say that
you are in this peloton and you're you're going down
the freeway and everybody's doing eighty and then somebody in
a lifted f two fifty comes flying by you. Somehow
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I don't know who's flying on the on the freeways,
but somehow they found a pocket and they.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Go flying by you. So you're driving with a bunch
of people.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Let's say there's six seven of you that are going eighty,
and this truck goes flying by, and you go, that
car that truck is easily doing ninety or ninety five,
and then you see Punch and John pull out and
they hit their lights and you go, they're gonna get
that sucker, but they don't. They pull you over and
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they give you a ticket, and you say, wait a minute, am.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
I the bigger threat?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Because I just watched this guy on in F two
fifty doing ninety five that just passed me? And I
know you saw him because I saw him past you
before you pulled out and then and then stop me.
And the officer goes, yeah, but you broke the law.
The officer is one hundred percent correct, You did break
the law. Law you do deserve that ticket. Is that
the priority that we want our law enforcement working on?
(20:06):
Or do we want law enforcement working harder on the
guy who is a bigger law breaker driving a vehicle
that is much larger than yours, that.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Can do far more damage.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
And where we also have to be careful is just
because we know one guy is driving an F two
fifty at ninety five miles an hour doesn't mean that
everybody driving a pickup is violating the law. And this
is where the judge says there has to be due process.
If you say someone is a member of a gang
that you've deemed a terrorist organization, doesn't that person have
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the right to show up and say no, I'm not
And isn't the onus i'm the accuser to provide the
evidence that, yes, that person is a threat to national security,
in the same way that if you pull me over
and I'm driving my pickup truck and you give me
a ticket because I have a pickup truck. Therefore, or
I must be somebody who speeds and creates havoc, don't
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I have the right to appeal that and say, show
me the radar, show me the evidence that you caught
me speeding. This is what's at issue, And instead what
we hear is the judge is a bad person. I
don't know that we're actually making things safer this way.
Yesterday I was talking with you about this, twenty three
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and Me filing for bankruptcy.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Maybe you remember the story ABC seven was reporting on
aenetic testing company.
Speaker 10 (21:30):
Twenty three and Me has now filed for Chapter eleven
bankruptcy protection. The firm, valued at fifty million dollars, is
pushing for a buyout. So far, the board has rejected
all offers, now saying a court supervised sale is the
best path forward. Twenty three and Me will continue operations
during this process. This, of course, comes just one day
after California Attorney General Rob Bonte issued a consumer alert
(21:53):
about the potential of this very thing happening, reminding customers
consider invoking their rights to have twenty three and meters
delete their data and destroy genetic samples.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Yeah, destroy genetic samples means rinse, you're spitting down the sink,
because what happens is you spit in the tube, you
mail it to them, and then they keep it and
they've got a big safe I'm not joking it. They
have a big vault filled with little samples of spittle
and they hang on to that stuff, and then they
have the analysis comes out, and then that data is
(22:26):
stored on their servers. And what happens is you can
access the data, you can download that data, you can
save your data. So while Rob Bonta says you should
delete the data, exercise your right to delete the data.
You can download your data so that you will still
have access to it. But it does get a bit
more complicated than that. And I talked about this yesterday
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and I said, I wonder what's gonna happen with all
these you know what's gonna happen with the samples, what's
gonna happen with the with the data? With everybody's portfolio
of of of their information. Because twenty three and meters
will like other genetic testing companies, you can use that information,
and twenty three meters is the second largest beyond ancestry.
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You can use that information to evaluate some of your
health risks. That's twenty three and meters. Big thing is
that they do the genetic testing, so you can see
do I have a higher risk of, say, breast cancer,
do I have a higher risk of developing Alzheimer's, whatever
it might be, and then you can use that accordingly
so that you can plan your life out and then
make sure your funeral plans are in place. You don't
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have to rely on your terrible children because they stopped
loving you the minute that they moved out.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
So what happens with your info?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Though, even if you download it, if you're someone that
uses it for genetic testing, right, you've got it. If
you're somebody that uses that for piecing together, say a
family tree, you're going to lose the tree what you
can do.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
You're going to lose the connections.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
You're gonna lose the details on it because as everyone
is deleting their information from it, all of a sudden,
it no longer connects on their database. So suppose that
I'm going to use a simple eggs sample here. Suppose
that it's you and your sibling and you've both spit
in a tube and you mail it in, and then
you've got a profile that says here's your profile, and
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you you say, am I matching with anyone else who's
made their profile available for potential mask matching? And it says, actually,
your your profile matches your siblings. So your your brother
or your sister here it is.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Now.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Imagine that your brother or your sister deletes their profile
all of a sudden, it no longer matches you.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
See.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
So what some people are doing right now is they're
taking screenshots of those matches because even if you if
you download your profile, it is not showing any connections
because your profile on your your computer, your cloud, whoever
you say it, if it is not tied with theirs,
then it doesn't it doesn't show that connection any longer.
So some people are taking some screenshots ahead of time
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to say, oh, I want to make sure I don't
lose my great great great great uncle and find out
you know that they came over on a boat from Norway.
So they're taking screenshots before a bunch of data gets deleted.
You don't necessarily need to delete it quite yet. Bonta
is warning you you could take you could take advantage
of this.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
You should do it.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
If the sale goes through and you're concerned about where
that data might go, you can delete it. You can
take care of it right now if you want. You
can take care of it in the future, but there
are there are some questions and if they end up
going dark, then you can delete it also. That'll be
part of any bankruptcy filing, is to make sure that
the eyes are dotted and the t's are crossed. Don't
know if they're going to actually liquidate though, because the
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co founder, who owns forty nine percent of the stock,
she's part of the group that keeps blocking the sale
because she wants to buy it. Twenty three meters used
to be worth, by the way, six billion dollars. Now
it's only worth fifty million because they had a data
breach in twenty twenty three and people freaked out, as
well they should, because not only would you be losing
your social security information and things like that, but all
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of a sudden, people are literally seeing what your DNA
is made up of.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
You talk about identity theft.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
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