Leaders and Next
An NIL podcast founded by UofM alumni providing a platform for student-athletes to grow their brands, and tell their stories.
Episodes
Recurring guest and 2024 captain Max Bredeson joins the podcast.
- (1:55) - What Max wants all fans about him
- (2:45) - Max quizzes us on our favorite Michigan games of all time
- (7:00) - The story about how he learned he was captain last year
- (8:30) - Too many singers on the team?
- (11:30) - Fan Question #1 - Max's Favorite Legend from Finnean OMeara
- (12:25) - The art of the pregame speech
- (17:00) - Josh Ross shoutout
- (17:45) - ...
Part 2 of our reflection and reaction to Michigan’s Spring Game. This episode is focused on the Defense. Study up on the key position battles, fast-rising newcomers, and future surprise contributors for the 2025 season.
We set the stage and look at the big picture of the defense (00:47)
Saying the “F” word is awesome (2:40)
Defensive Line looks awesome and deep (3:00)
Linebackers are either old or young (11:00) and is Cole Sulliv...
Part 1 of our reflection and reaction to Michigan’s Spring Game. This episode is focused on the Offense an Special Teams. Study up on the key position battles, fast-rising newcomers, and future surprise contributors for the 2025 season.
1:20 – putting it all in perspective
2:15 – Quarterback; breaking down what we saw from Bryce and Jaydn
6:45 – Mikey Keene update
10:15 – Running Back; we’re jazzed up for
12:45 – Kudzal for Presi...
Dan and Gary catch up with Jalen Hoffman, Michigan’s Tight-End / H-Back who exploded onto the scene after a monster 2025 spring game.
Jalen had 7 catches for 148 yards and touchdown in the game, serving as Bryce Underwood’s primary target throughout the game. (A surprise to many, but not to the studious and attentive fans)
In the interview, we get an in-depth view of “The Superman Play” from the Spring Game – and so much more. W...
From Germany to Georgia to Ann Arbor, Marlin Klein shares his unique path to Michigan. Marlin is expected to start at tight-end for the Wolverines in 2025 after a major role in 2024 as the team’s #2 tight-end and multi-game starter after Colston Loveland's injury.
Hear how Marlin is using the spring and summer to prepare for an even bigger role on the 2025 squad.
German food ratings, tattoo sleeves, Marlin’s (southern) accent – t...
Andrew Pierce, winner of the prestigious, inaugural "Listener of the Year" award joins the podcast. Enjoy us shooting the breeze on the 2024 version of "The Game", what we're looking for in the upcoming Spring Game, how Michigan b-ball can make a deep tourney run, and much more.
Quarterback Mikey Keene shares his incredible college journey – from UCF to Fresno State to Michigan – and gives some insights on the coaching staff and quarterback competition heading into the 2024 season.
- 2:50 – The #1 thing he wants UM fans to know about you
- 5:50 – Recruiting journey
- 8:40 – The Brock Purdy connection
- 10:20 – The famous Lazy River story
- 12:55 – A complete shake-up at UCF in Year 1
- 15:18 – Dillon Gabriel ment...
Andrew Sprague, a 2024 blue-chip OT recruit who stands at 6'8", stops by the podcast. Andrew is primed to be the next great offensive lineman at Michigan, getting the starting nod in the Reliaquest Bowl against Alabama as a freshman.
Listen now to Part 2 of our transfer portal review! This episode picks up where the last leaves off, and focuses on the 2025 defensive position groups.
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Listeners, buckle up and hold on tight because we’re entering the portal. In this episode, we highlight the position groups on Offense - covering the current state of the 2025 roster, the scholarship distribution, portal additions, and our projected future portal needs.
> Quarterback (3:00) – We highlight the addition of Mikey Keene, and how we think he fits in with the quarterback room of Davis, Bryce and Jadyn.
> Runn...
Dan catches up with a very special guest - Landan - one our listeners who won our OSU ticket giveaway contest back in November. Landan was able to take in The Game down in Columbus with his Dad...so we just HAD to catch up with him to hear about his gameday experience at the Shoe. He dishes on how the big moments of the game played out in the stadium, his view of the game aftermath, and the joyous walk back to the car through Col...
Part 2 of the 2025 Roster Preview, this one focused on the defensive position groups. Listen in so you can impress your friends and family with your Michigan Football knowledge this holiday season.
Dan and Gary look ahead to 2025 with a preview of the offense and special teams position groups. Debate ensues...
Jordan Hobbs is the second member of the Women's Basketball team to join the podcast! Jordan has been dialed in this season for the 9-2 Wolverines, scoring more than 13 points a game so far this year. She's been a constant presence through a massive roster changeover between last season and this year. She shares the inside scoop about her unique role as a veteran presence in the new age of NIL & transfer portal landscape.
The Leaders & Next crew stretch their horizons into the world of Michigan basketball with Olivia Olson - one of the stars of the (now) 7-1 Women's bball team. Olivia is a member of Michigan's loaded freshman recruiting class. In the episode - Olivia dishes on the successful start to the season, her recruiting journey, and her exciting entrepreneurial passion of landscaping. Bonus: the L&N guys fight over the rules of H.O...
Football, Lacrosse, Basketball - in this episode, we discover that there isn't anything that Peyton O'Leary isn't good at. Starting his career as a walk-on, Peyton has quickly earned a major role on Michigan's offense as a go-to receiver. He's scored in big moments, including a touchdown against the #1 team in the country. He gives us the scoop on one of Michigan's secret weapons (coach Steve Casula) and dishes on his dream (non...
True Freshman Enow Etta joins the show! Enow dishes on navigating 3 (!) position coaching changes during his Michigan tenure, his plans for playing inside vs. outside on the line, and ... of course ... how Brian Kelly's dancing videos dissuaded him from choosing LSU.
At the end of the episode - we have a Leaders & Next first where Enow has a few interview questions for the hosts!
Jordan Marshall is Michigan's first Top 100 recruit from Ohio since 2013. He has already seen action in his true freshman season and looks like play a bigger role in the 2nd half of the season. We talk to Jordan about his high-profile recruitment, his quick adjustment to the college game...and we get a special guest star for the Two Minute Drill to top it all off!!
Ben Hall comes to Michigan by way of Georgia, and is on his way to be the next great Michigan running back. Ben takes us through his (wild) recruitment and high school journey prior to Michigan and his fast start to his career at Michigan (multiple stand-out spring games and playing time in 2023) ... before we do one of the best "two-minute drills" in Leaders and Next history.
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