Leaders and Next
An NIL podcast founded by UofM alumni providing a platform for student-athletes to grow their brands, and tell their stories.
Episodes
Bryson was key for the Wolverines down the stretch in 2025 - helping secure road wins at Northwestern and at Maryland. We caught up with Bryson just after the Maryland game, where he started in place of an injured Jordan Marshall and ran for 100 yards and 3 TDs (no big deal). Bryson tells us about that amazing experience and his journey to get there, including an amazing relationship with RB coach Tony Alford. We promise, we li...
We interview our new starting Left Tackle, Blake Frazier. We caught up with Blake after two straight weeks of holding down the starting spot. Against MSU, in his first start, he paved the way for 2 100+ yard rushers and 276 yards total (the most in 30 years against the Spartans). Against Purdue the next week, he paved the way for a monster performance from Jordan Marshall (185 yards and 3 touchdowns). Oh...and a lot of those p...
Jake Guarnera has burst onto the scene in the 2025 season, starting at guard for the Wolverines for 3 straight games. He's made a huge impact in the run game, helping pave the way for big rushing outbursts against CMU, Nebraska and Wisconsin (who was the #1 rush defense?). Jake bulldozes through our gauntlet of questions like a pro, including a stellar performance on the Michigan trivia quiz at the end.
Wide Receiver Channing Goodwin joins the podcast to discuss his fast start to the 2025 season and ascent to being a starter on the Michigan offense. It’s an action-packed episode covering the season, thoughts on the new college football landscape, and closing with a pop-quiz on Michigan receiving history.
(1:14) – When did he find out he was going to be starting? And why switch from #14 to #9?
(2:40) – If Bryce is Batman, what su...
Sophomore linebacker Cole Sullivan joins the show after a BREAKOUT game against New Mexico - tallying 5 tackles, 1 sack and an interception in less than a half of play. Cole's performance wasn't a surprise to those close to the program - he's been ascending the depth chart with his raw athleticism and a new-found 30 pounds of muscle in the offseason.
Listen in on a great show to hear Cole's story - how jumping on top of his family...
We officially welcome offensive lineman Brady Norton to the Michigan football family after transferring in from Cal Poly earlier this year. Brady allowed 0 sacks in 11 starts last year and was the highest-graded offensive lineman (by PFF) in Cal Poly history. He’s a bench-pressing, Ohio-hating, milk-chugging machine, and we're glad he's on our side.
(1:06) – What do you want Michigan fans to know?
(1:48) – the Transition from FC...
Recurring guest and RB1 Jordan Marshall joins the show. Jordan is an incredible player, person and representative for the University of Michigan. We love talking to Jordan and have a great conversation covering his breakout game in 2024, mindset heading into 2025, and even talk a little football history trivia.
(7:20) – Beating Ohio State
(9:00) – Michigan’s 2025 running back room, setting the standard
(11:30) – Hitting the backf...
Michigan’ star kicker (and recurring guest) Dominic Zvada joins the podcast. We geek out on the science of kicking, reflect on his first season at Michigan, talk about his preparation of the season. And, of course, his Ohio State and Alabama heroics. We close with a hilarious attempt at our first intra-show trivia quiz called “Guess That Kick?”.
(1:40) – The art and science of kicking
(8:50) – Preparation for the season
(9:45) –...
Todd Lansky, founder of Detroit Army (detroitarmy.com), joins the podcast. With support from Dan Campbell and press in the New York Times - Detroit Army is officially taking the world by storm. Todd shares the company's origin story and talks about the goals and mission of the organization.
Recurring guest and 2024 captain Max Bredeson joins the podcast.
- (1:55) - What Max wants all fans about him
- (2:45) - Max quizzes us on our favorite Michigan games of all time
- (7:00) - The story about how he learned he was captain last year
- (8:30) - Too many singers on the team?
- (11:30) - Fan Question #1 - Max's Favorite Legend from Finnean OMeara
- (12:25) - The art of the pregame speech
- (17:00) - Josh Ross shoutout
- (17:45) - ...
Part 2 of our reflection and reaction to Michigan’s Spring Game. This episode is focused on the Defense. Study up on the key position battles, fast-rising newcomers, and future surprise contributors for the 2025 season.
We set the stage and look at the big picture of the defense (00:47)
Saying the “F” word is awesome (2:40)
Defensive Line looks awesome and deep (3:00)
Linebackers are either old or young (11:00) and is Cole Sulliv...
Part 1 of our reflection and reaction to Michigan’s Spring Game. This episode is focused on the Offense an Special Teams. Study up on the key position battles, fast-rising newcomers, and future surprise contributors for the 2025 season.
1:20 – putting it all in perspective
2:15 – Quarterback; breaking down what we saw from Bryce and Jaydn
6:45 – Mikey Keene update
10:15 – Running Back; we’re jazzed up for
12:45 – Kudzal for Presi...
Dan and Gary catch up with Jalen Hoffman, Michigan’s Tight-End / H-Back who exploded onto the scene after a monster 2025 spring game.
Jalen had 7 catches for 148 yards and touchdown in the game, serving as Bryce Underwood’s primary target throughout the game. (A surprise to many, but not to the studious and attentive fans)
In the interview, we get an in-depth view of “The Superman Play” from the Spring Game – and so much more. W...
From Germany to Georgia to Ann Arbor, Marlin Klein shares his unique path to Michigan. Marlin is expected to start at tight-end for the Wolverines in 2025 after a major role in 2024 as the team’s #2 tight-end and multi-game starter after Colston Loveland's injury.
Hear how Marlin is using the spring and summer to prepare for an even bigger role on the 2025 squad.
German food ratings, tattoo sleeves, Marlin’s (southern) accent – t...
Andrew Pierce, winner of the prestigious, inaugural "Listener of the Year" award joins the podcast. Enjoy us shooting the breeze on the 2024 version of "The Game", what we're looking for in the upcoming Spring Game, how Michigan b-ball can make a deep tourney run, and much more.
Quarterback Mikey Keene shares his incredible college journey – from UCF to Fresno State to Michigan – and gives some insights on the coaching staff and quarterback competition heading into the 2024 season.
- 2:50 – The #1 thing he wants UM fans to know about you
- 5:50 – Recruiting journey
- 8:40 – The Brock Purdy connection
- 10:20 – The famous Lazy River story
- 12:55 – A complete shake-up at UCF in Year 1
- 15:18 – Dillon Gabriel ment...
Andrew Sprague, a 2024 blue-chip OT recruit who stands at 6'8", stops by the podcast. Andrew is primed to be the next great offensive lineman at Michigan, getting the starting nod in the Reliaquest Bowl against Alabama as a freshman.
Listen now to Part 2 of our transfer portal review! This episode picks up where the last leaves off, and focuses on the 2025 defensive position groups.
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> Dan’s getting old and needs cryotherapy (...
Listeners, buckle up and hold on tight because we’re entering the portal. In this episode, we highlight the position groups on Offense - covering the current state of the 2025 roster, the scholarship distribution, portal additions, and our projected future portal needs.
> Quarterback (3:00) – We highlight the addition of Mikey Keene, and how we think he fits in with the quarterback room of Davis, Bryce and Jadyn.
> Runn...
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