April 10, 2025 • 34 mins
On the Early Edition with Full Show Podcast Friday 11th April 2025, The Treaty Principles Bill is dead in the water, Former National Minister for treaty negotiations Chris Finlayson shares what happens from here.
New data shows only one in three Kiwi parents have rules around their children's use of social media, Netsafe Chief Online Safety Officer Sean Lyons shares his concerns with Andrew Dickens.
It's Supercars weekend in Taupo, Mayor David Trewavas tells Andrew what we can expect from the weekend.
Plus, UK/Europe Correspondent Vincent McAviney has the latest on EU reaction to Donald Trump's back-down on tariffs.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The issues is the interviews and the insight Andrew Dickens
on early edition with one roof make your property search simple,
use talks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It'd be welcome by to you. Not only is it
with some Peter's birthday, it's my birthday as well, and
welcome to the program. And it's Friday Nets Safe. Ask
the kids what they want in terms of protection from
the nasties on the internet. So i'll have that story
for you in five minutes. Topor is gearing up for
their biggest weekend with the supercars. We're going to talk
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to the mayor in ten minutes. Finally someone has said
what needs to be said about our emissions trading scheme,
and I'll have that story for you just before five thirty.
And the whole Treaty Negotiations principles debate came to an
end yesterday, a messy end yesterday, So former Treaty Negotiations
Minister Chris Finnerson will join me just before six to
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discuss what we learnt from it all. We'll have Vincent
mcavenni out of Europe. We'll also have corresponden some write
New Zealand and of course news as it breaks and
you can have your say by giving us a text
anytime you like. The number is ninety two ninety two,
and there is a small charge that applies. It's eight
after five. The agenda Friday, the eleventh of April. We
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start with the great tariff back down from Donald Trump.
As we heard yesterday on the show, Trump paused tariff
hikes for ninety days, but the universal ten percent levee
for all countries except China remains in place. Well, I
thought that people were jumping a little bit out of line.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
They were getting yippy.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
You know, they're getting a little bit yippy, a little
bit afraid.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Unlike these champions.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Somebody had to do it.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
They had to stop because it was not sustainable.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yippi. That's the word of the day. Yippie. Now, following
the move, the EU has put retaliatory tariffs on hold,
while the Trump administration says it's close to signing deals
with American's trading partners. US Treasury Secretary Scott Present says
they were acting to the markets and says, hey, this
is all part of the plan.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
This was driven by the president's strategy. Then I had
a long talk on Sunday, and this was his strategy
all along.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
And that you know, you might.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Even say that he go to China into a bad position.
They responded that they have shown themselves to the world
to be the bad actors.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Now there's been a development in the Idaho murders where
a judge is set to make decisions about what evidence
can and cannot be submitted at the upcoming death penalty
trial of Brian Coburger, who's accused of murdering four University
of Idaho students back in November twenty twenty two. So
Coburger faces four counts of first degree murders. This is
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in the deaths of Madison Mogan, Katie Congarvli's, Zayana Canodle,
and Ethan Chapin. Now, this was at an off campus
home in Moscow, Idaho. Not guilty please have been entered
on his behalf. It was a marathon hearing and the
defense called on one of the only surviving room mates,
Dylan Mortensen, and he called him a unreliable eyewitness.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
DM is uncertain about the lighting. The stairs to her
left were not lit, the kitchen may or may not
have been lit, and the twinkle lights in the living
room may have been lit. She described seeing the person
for quote only a second.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
And finally, King Charles and Queen Camilla had been wrapping
up their visit to Italy. The two met the Pope
at the Vatican and celebrated their twentieth wedding anniversary at
a state banquet at the Presidential Palaces.
Speaker 7 (03:38):
To President, to me on this small.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Romantic cabin, he's a funny man, and yesterday I complained
that I hadn't heard him speaking in Italian. Last night
on the TV, I saw the King speaking in Italian
and his Italian was marvelous. It's ten out of five.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Get ahead of the headlines on Earl edition Andrew Dickens
and one roof make your Property Search Simple News Talk.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Sid be Highto. So the passion play that was the
Treaty Principal's Bill came to its predicted end yesterday not
with a whimper but a roar. There were impassion speeches.
There was singing, even though the speaker warned that that
was banned. He called for the cops. Willie Jackson got
predictably chucked out of the house for calling someone a
liar again. A national MP even got hot and bothered
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on the day with Tama Puttaka, calling the whole thing
cremation day and a burial. The Prime Minister didn't attend
because he had important stuff to do. He had a
meeting with EWE and he had to do a speech
to the Wellington Chamber of Commerce. Chris Hipkins called the
Prime Minister a coward for not being there at the
end of a process that he allowed to happen in
the coalition agreement, and the architect of the bill, David Seymour,
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said the idea is not dead. In fact, a referendum
is his new bottom line and coalition agreements going forward.
It all sounded pretty divisive, really, and so did the
marches on Parliament, so did the anti Malori vitriol all
over social media. And yet the funny thing always was
in this whole debate that David Seymour and the supporters
of the bill always said the bill was not divisive.
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In fact, the bill can't be divisive when it's three
sentences talked about unity and one New Zealand. But right there,
right before our eyes, there was division. And the division
is between the people who support the way we enact
the Treaty in our day to day lives and the
people who don't you know it quacked like a duck,
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so let's call it a duck. It was divisive and
you know what, after all the fire and headlines, nothing
has happened. And I'm going to call this the best
political stunt in a generation. David Seymour's been in the
headlines for months. Take a bow, mister Seymour. Andrew Diggens
now Health New Zealand data. So it's the number of
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public funding colonoscopies have dropped more than seven percent. They've
got a made of mine. Who cause a colonoscopy? Riding
the black snake? Not pleasant, but they're very important anyway.
Health New Zealand then went on to say it's because
there was a temporary surge after the assignation of leftover
COVID funding, so we did more colonoscopies than usual in
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the twenty twenty two year, which is not wholly untrue,
but it fails to recognize the bigger picture, and that
is the fact that our population is aging. All the
boomers are well over sixty, and you know, you get
over sixty, that's when things start falling apart. Boo Canser
New Zealand has come out and said that an aging
population has been increasing at a rate of six point
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four percent over the past six years. So the COVID
year testing numbers that jumped up were not an outlier,
but rather a necessary correction to keep up with population.
In fact, they said yesterday we should probably be doing
eighty five hundred tests more than we actually do. Now,
look if I'm losing it with all these numbers, let's
put this in plain English. Bow cans in New Zealand
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says we're not testing enough because funding has dried up.
Now here's a question for the government. Is that a
false economy. The earlier you detect a cancer or disease,
the easier it is to treat, the easier it is
to treat, the cheaper it is to treat. Far too
many people die of bow cancer in this country, and
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there's been an extensive education campaign going back decades to
get people to look closely at their guts earlier in
their lives. So the reduction in klidoscopies and the reduction
of funding for them is a step backwards in the
nation's health and at the end of the day, it's
going to end out costing the taxpayer more Dickens. It's
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five fourteen. I'm meant for Ryan Bridge. He is back
on Tuesday. Heathers back on Monday. So net safe has
gone and asked one thousand kids about what's on social
media and what gives them the yips because yippie is
the word of the day and that's about time and
what they said might surprise you. Sure certainly should supplies legislators.
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So I'm going to talk to net safe about this
in just a few moments time. It's coming up five
to fifteen.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
News and Views You Trust to start your day's early
edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make your Property
Search Simple? Can you've talk Sibby?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Well, it's seventeen minutes out to five. So new data
shows only one in three Kiwi pairents have rules around
their children's use of social media well the other two
out of three during while a report by Save the
Children and Netsafe shows over seventy five percent of Kiwi
kids what greater restrictions on harmful content. It comes as
TikTok presented new child safety features to Parliament on Wednesday.
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So I'm joined now by netsafe's online safety Officer, Sean
Lyons and good morning Tea.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Sean, Good morning.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
So you spoke to nearly one thousand kids around New
Zealand and you found out what they want and they
want less nasties. So why are the adults still faffing about?
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Well, I mean, I think part of that Indy should
be listening to to those young users that are out
there eperiencing some of those challenges online. Those young people
had a real common sense approach to what it was
that they wanted. They understand and recognize that there's good
stuff that they see online, that they do online, but
also that there are steps that could be taken to
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make them safer online. And you know, like I said,
I think it's a real common sense approach that they've
come up with.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, the kids want to be safe online. So who
is responsible for these kids seeing harmful content online? Is
it the content providers? Or is it the government with
laws and regulations, or is it the parents?
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Well, I mean who's responsible for them seeing it would
be the people that put harmful content online and those
that seek to harm individuals. And that's as much the
case for young people as it is for adults. And
in terms of whose responsibility is it to stop that
or deal with that situation. It's a joint responsibility and
it goes from the responsibility of parents to ensure that
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they know what their young people they're doing and provide
support for it for young people directly if they need it.
But it's also about regulation, it's also about the platforms,
and it's also about education and the support that young
people get. But the main thing is it's really about
empowering young people to ensure that they know how to
look after themselves, how to how to deal with the
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situation that they come across.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
And that's very sensible and go the kids. But here's
the thing. The thing that got me is that two
out of three queuing parents have no rules around their
children's use of social media. So what would you like
to say to those parents.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Certainly when it's no rules at all, that that's something
that needs to be reviewed and reviewed regularly. I mean
that may well be because without rules, what they have
is other systems in place, or they have a degree
of confidence in their young people that they know what
to do. We could be talking about parents of fifteen
sixteen year olds who feel that their children are incredibly
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well equipped with the challenges they experience, and if that's
the case, then so be it. Our real worry is
that that comes out of parents who don't really understand
or haven't really engaged with what it is that those
online spaces and places that they're young people are in
look like. And really what we would the challenge I
guess that we would give to parents in that situation is,
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if that is the case, then this is the time
to step in, take a look yourself, talk to you
young people about what it is that they experience and
how they handle those challenges online. And if you still
feel that there's no need to put anything in place,
then that's that's an informed decision. I think the likelihood
is in that case that it's then time. What you
will find out is that it's time to institute something
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around those young people, be that educating them, be that
making a plan, be that working out what it is
and isn't. It's stickle in your house that something will
probably need to step into that place.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Sean very good work. That is Sean Lyon's the net
Safetief Online safety officer. And you know what I find
amazing about this is a lot of the new parents
these days, the Internet's been around for a while. They've
grown up with the internet. As kids, they would have
seen the nasties on the internet, and now they are
parents themselves, and you would have thought more of them
would know what to do, but not to be Hello, Kathy.
(12:12):
Kathy says, my husband's having a colonoscopy in a couple
of weeks. We are fortunate to have Southern Cross costing
US eight hundred dollars. Our excess is one thousand dollars.
Wish your husband all the very best. And yes, that's
the sensible thing to do, Kathy. It is five twenty one.
We're off to Topaul next because they've got a big
race this weekend.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Andrew Dickens on affili edition with one roof Make your
Property Search Simple, Youth Talk Zivvy.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
It's five twenty three. Text comes in and joint approach
sounds sensible when it comes to online safety, parents, platforms,
regulation and education. Good advice from net Safe. Thank you
for your text. I agree. So it's all on V
eight supercars back in Topaul this weekend and I've got
the mayor with me. David Treuevers. Hello David, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Good money, Andrew, Yeah, kyodo and yeah nice to nice
to hear your friendly voice in the morning this morning.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Now, sixty thousand people coming to pack in the region,
now that's got to be good.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Absolutely. We had a taste of it last year, of course,
and this is the second year that we're doing it,
and yeah, it's just the town is absolutely buzzing and
we're looking forward to it. The weather forecast locks absolutely brilliant,
so we'll take it and we'll just do the job
and welcome all these Aussies into town and all the
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people from around New Zealand. So looking forward to it.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Okay, as you say, year two, So how did your
one go? What economic benefits did TOPO get?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
We got a measure done. We think about twenty twenty
to twenty three mill into the district just a direct
spend on the weekend. So you know that's pretty good
for a small population. So and good spenders too. It
covers all fields. You know, you've got your mum and
dads with the picnic rug and couple of kids, and
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then you've got ten thousand die hard motorsport fans you
know what they like. And then you've got the corporates
and they do the corporates really well. And Supercars is
a totally professional outfit.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You know what I really like. I really like the
racecourse that's right beside the racecourse it ends up being
a camping town and that looks like the best fun
on earth to be fair.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Absolutely got the gliding club as well. The end the
gliders stop for the weekend and they all pack up
in the air as well.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Great stuff. What are you looking forward to the most?
What events over the weekend are you're looking forward to
the most?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Well, the two finals of course on Saturday and Sunday,
and then the Jason Richards Trophies up for grabs as well,
of course. And you know you've got twenty four of
the best best teams in Australasia, that's for sure, and
pretty fast these vehicles. And yeah, so I'm not a
absolutely expert on the job, but I know there's a
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few favorites out there with the crowds of itself and
they really get behind the team, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Good work, Topaul, Good work David Treuwavis, and thank you
for your time. This Morning News Talks AB the early.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
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Speaker 3 (15:12):
It be.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
News Talks w B. I'm Andrew Dickinson for Ryan Bridge.
So last night on One News I heard the single
most logical, insane thing said on that bulletin in a
very long time. And it was said by Simon Upton,
the Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment, a very smart man,
a Rhodes scholar, a former Minister for the Environment, for
national and this is what Simon Upton said.
Speaker 8 (15:33):
We should in an orderly way take forestry out of
their mission's trading scheme.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Blow me over with a feather. I thought, why has
it taken so long for someone so smart to come
out and say this so publicly. We should, in an
orderly way take forestry out of the emissions trading scheme.
Forestry for climate change has been a Ponzi scheme. In fact,
last night the bulletin, the One News bulletin, the Reporter
called it a golden ticket. It's swamp productive land for
easy gain. It's caused rampant while growth through our wildlands.
(16:01):
In the essence, pines and exotic stuff like that, just
a big weed unless you're farming it for wood and paper.
And even then that market's turning a little bit sour.
Has it done anything to reduce emissions. No, the numbers
keept going up and up each year. We've had long
enough for proof it has not. It has provided excuses
for well meeting pop bands to travel the world in
(16:22):
private jets, planting useless forests in their wake and claiming
moral superiority. But then the one news bit went and
to completely miss the point. The headline was we should
plant natives instead of pine, which he kind of did say,
but only if we keep on going with the nutso
forest planting scheme. What Simon proposed was completely removing the
ability of carbon polluters to rely on planting trees to
(16:46):
meet their climate obligations. That's a direct quote. Here's another,
as Simon said, the world actually needs real reductions and
gross emissions, not an accounting triumph hallelujah. If you want
to cut your emissions, then cut your emissions, don't plant
a tree.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Andrew Dickens, so.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
The supercars is all big, and of course we had
a breaking piece of news over the week, the Christian's
getting the supercars. A little bit more on that a
little bit later on, and later Christophinerson, former National Minister
for Treaty negotiations, on the whole treaty Principles Bill, This
thing which finally came to an end or did it yesterday?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
This new Stalk Sibby, The News you Need this morning
and the in Depth Analysis Early edition with Andrew Dickens
and one roof Make Your Property Search Simple News Talk Sibby.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
That's Katy Perry had a birthday sign for a birthday
boy were impeded, so obviously he's eighty today. Oh am me,
it's my today. People are asking how old are you.
I'm old enough. They really should book as session riding
the Black Snake, if you know what I mean. Thank
you for the birthday sign. Producer Kenzie, who, by the way,
has been driving me crazy all morning because shee's sitting
(18:13):
in the control booth eating hot crust buns with melted
butter all over them, and the smell of the spice
is all through the studio and I'm just so hungry,
but I don't eat while I'm on air, because unfortunate
things can happen when you're in the middle of a sentence. Now,
the news that christ Church is to get a supercars
race at Ruapoona was broken by One News earlier this week,
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and by the way, this upset supercars because they did
embargo the news. We all kind of knew this was happening,
but they wanted to present the news on their terms.
They wanted all the attention on Topaul this week and
then after we have a big old party and a
good old time there we go. That was great. After
the flush of success of the weekend, they could then
come out and go, you know what, We're going to
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do it twice in New Zealand, and we going to
do it in Chrazy at Ruapuna. But no one news
was shorter material, so they broke the story anyway. That
being so, it is fabulous good news and it makes
real sense. Getting the cars to Topol is a real
mission because they don't have a big airport there. They've
got to fly these things from Melbourne to here. They've
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got to get them to the course. So Topul's a mission.
Central Ottaga was a mission christ Church, so so much easier.
They can fly the cars into the international airport and
they're ready to go just down the road. And the
reason christ Church got the NOD is because of their
council agency, christ Church end Z and they are on
fire right now. They've got a spiffing new stadium to market.
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They're actively getting out there, actively selling the city. And
this in contrast to Auckland where the mayor there who
wants a limo and does video calls while driving. The
mayor there doesn't see the point of such a push
to get such events. You know what, if christ Church
keeps us up, they could end out being the events
capital of New Zealand. And I say, all power to them,
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All power to them. I raise my finger a bit
too soon. We're around the country. Calm Proctor joins us
from Duneda and hello.
Speaker 9 (20:10):
Calum, morning Andrew.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
But we're here to talk about South and the landfill
at Bluff's Ocean Beach.
Speaker 9 (20:17):
Yeah. The work to contain the contaminated contents of this
landfill as well and truly underway, nearly complete here at
Ocean Beach. It's been off limits to the public now
since twenty eighteen after contaminants, including asbestos, was found there.
Since then, an asbestos removal companies have been hard at
work clearing about one point two tons of material from
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the beach. Doc says the next phase for them is
to prevent any future contamination of the site and restore
public access. So they say a waste will be sorted
and removed before a ninety meter wall made of six
and a half thousand tons of rocks will be built
to prevent further erosion at Ocean Beach.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Good stuff, how's your weather?
Speaker 9 (20:58):
Pretty good? Fine today morning? Cloud nor West has developed
the high twenty one.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Claire. Sure what joins you from christ? You tell it?
Speaker 10 (21:03):
Claire, Good morning, Happy birthday?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Thank you tell me. The story of Edgewear Pool.
Speaker 10 (21:08):
Well Edgewear Pool, if you know, you know, it's one
of those situations. This is a project that has been
locally really significant for a long long time, since before
the quakes. In fact, basically this pool had been there
for a very long time. It got into a bad state.
It was then demolished in two thousand and seven. The community, though,
was up in arms about it because there's not another
one very close, so they've been pushing to try to
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get a pool back into the area. They ended up
purchasing the land from council for a single dollar in
twenty sixteen. They then had a number of hoops to
jump through. They've now done that and been able to
get consent to begin work. The coll news is the
construction will begin from this coming Monday now fourth term
local councilor and our deputy mayor. Actually, Pauline Cotter says
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this Edgewhere Pool is what launched her political career. She
says it feels almost unbelievable to see it finally getting
to the stage, given it's taken so long, but it
shows the power of communities not giving up. She says,
it's a project very dear to her heart and will
go down as one of the many highlights in her career.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
How's christ Churcher's weather?
Speaker 10 (22:12):
A little cloudy this morning, northwesterly strengthening this afternoon and
a high of twenty.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
One Max Toll from Wellington. Good morning to you, Max,
Good morning. So we've got a clothing brand in Wellington
that's shutting.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
Yeah. So this is a Nissa which for about eight
years has really been held up as a success story
of the capital. It's an ethical underwear and activewear brand.
It only hires female workers predominantly from refugee and migrant backgrounds.
The materials are sustainable, organic hand sown, et cetera. But
the owner says what so many are that foot traffic
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is just not the same anymore in central Wellington they're
based on Willis Street. The city much more quieter, people
working from home, cost of living, job cuts, et cetera,
et cetera. It's final day of trading tomorrow. It seems
no unsafe in the capital, all right?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
And how was the weather?
Speaker 7 (23:01):
Some early cloud clearing to find northerly's getting up to
eighteen central?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Two? Or can we go? And even tomato? Good money
to Youay you're not on hot No, no, it's not
your fault.
Speaker 11 (23:11):
There we go right, A happy birthday very much? Can
I how old are you?
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Okay?
Speaker 11 (23:16):
Can I guess?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Cut me open and cut the rings? Sixty?
Speaker 7 (23:21):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I am now okay. We've got a school in orcan
who spent four million bucks on a farm?
Speaker 12 (23:27):
Yes?
Speaker 11 (23:28):
Now? Saint Kentigan plans to open, or use, rather the
four hundred and thirteen hectaret Wilson Bay Farm as it's
third campus. This is alongside Remuerra and Pokodona grounds, so
it's aiming to have all students above year four traveling
out to the farm each year. This will happen from
around about twenty twenty seven onwards. The board says it's
going to remain a working farm. Students are going to
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they'll be able to undertake scientific studies or prepare for
agricultural careers. And they'll enjoy water sports out there too.
And what's also called is at the school's looking it
fearing the students directly. This is from the shoreline of
its college and Pokadanga.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Wow.
Speaker 11 (24:05):
Yes, they would have been great back in our day
if we were able to do that.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Now are into Campa Dare, which is in the Hunus
Orcanders will know Camper Dare. And it was just a
little park and we went around. We made walking six
out of supplejack of that sort of stuff. How's Orchan's weather?
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Well?
Speaker 11 (24:21):
Partly cloudy today, isolated Charles clearing in the afternoon. Twenty
one is the high today.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
And I think you for your time today now of
course on the whole get rid of the forest because
they're ineffective for climate emissions and that whole mission trading
scheme thing that I talked about your textas coming in
brilliant Andrew, thanks you get it. The land of the
long Green Pine, ruining rural New Zealand for International Pallugas.
Thank you. Sarah John has an idea that maybe grass
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should be promoted as the only paying carbon sequestera in
the ETS if you're not up with the story. As
Simon Upton said something quite brilliant on the news last night, Kensey,
have you got Simon? Could you play Simon again? I
can't hear this enough here he.
Speaker 8 (24:59):
Is should in an orderly way take forestry out of
the mission's training scheme.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Tomorrow now, Vincent McAvennie with us in a few moments time,
and we'll talk about King Charles and Queen Camilla's very
romantic twentieth wedding anniversary dinner in Italy, and later chrisphiner
Lissen on the Treaty Principles Bill which is dead in
the water, and what we've learned from the whole exercise.
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Speaker 2 (25:27):
This is thirteen to six. Into Europe, we go into
mecaveny Joints, the Hallivanton.
Speaker 12 (25:32):
Hi, good morning.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
I've managed to not say the tea word all morning long.
It has been a place of relief. But let's talk
tariff's reaction in Europe.
Speaker 12 (25:41):
Yeah, I think we've all been saying that word a
far too much over the past week. And there is
relief in Europe after the rate that the was going
to be applied to the block has fallen now down
to ten percent. They're holding off on reciprocal measures and focusing,
we understand, on trying to strike a deal in the
next ninety days to avoid any kind of increase in
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those Once again, Ursla Vonderline saying she's confident that work
could be done. The UK, there's a bit of sore
feeling here because we've actually had a pretty good deal
compared to everyone else. We were on the ten percent
levy that others had not managed to get, so there
was seen as a little bit of benefit of everyone
else in Europe was going to get a higher rate.
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We were going to be a little bit better. Some
saying it was potentially a little bit of a Brexit dividend,
something that we haven't seen much of in recent years.
So the feeling in Europe is that the stock markets
have gone up, there is now time to do something,
and trying to read the sort of behind the scenes
picture of what's going in the White House, people here
seem to feel confident that Donald Trump maybe has been
convinced out of his initial plan and that this was
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really you know, if you go and engage with him
and negotiate, that is what he really wanted all along.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yes, but the stock markets aren't really an accurate barometer
really of business. That's a bolsters as the numbers that
count the stockmakets based on motion.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
So there we go.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Look, let's Friday. Let's talk about King Charles and quin
Carmella's very romantic dinner for the twentieth anniversary in Italy
and also the magnificent speech by the King in the
Italian Parliament. What a room that was.
Speaker 12 (27:15):
Yeah, they've had a spectacular visit for four days to Italy.
We weren't sure if it was going to go ahead,
of course, with King Charles recently having a bit of
bother with his ongoing cancer treatment, having to cancel some
events about two weeks ago. But the event went ahead
and it was actually the twentieth anniversary of the couple
getting married in Windsor, and so they did a lot
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of touring around the country. They had that state dinner
where Prince Charles joke that you know, it was a
romantic meal for two that had been put on just
with another one hundred and fifty people in attendance. They
visited the scenes of some wargraves and the particularly a
town where a lot of Canadian soldiers lost their lives,
something that Charles is going out of his way at
the moment to show support for Canada with the sort
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of abuse that they're taking the United States on their sovereignty.
And they also visited a food market today they made
some pasta and they had their private meeting as well
with the Pope, which we didn't think was going to
happen given his ill health in recent months, but we
understand that happened behind closed doors and the couple received
a blessing from him and good.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
The hit of the Church of England meeting. Of course,
to the head of the Catholic Church. I understand you've
been at their Prince Harry court case.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 12 (28:25):
I spent two days in court in central London with
Prince Harry. He was at the Court of Appeal arguing
that the government had made a wrong calculation when it
comes to the security he and his family get when
they come to the UK. It's been moved to a
case by case basis, the government says, because they needed
that flexibility, because they didn't know what he was going
to do in terms of work and travel and everything else.
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He's saying, though the thread against him is so high,
particularly because he did serve in the military. He fought
in Afghanistan and he was used as a sort of
recruitment tool by the military, putting a bigger target on him.
He's saying that it should be at the level it
was when he was a working royal, that his decision
back in twenty twenty shouldn't affect that, and he's claiming
that it's one of the reasons that he's been staying
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away from the UK. So a panel of judges are
reviewing that decision now and they'll report at some point
in the next few weeks.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Great stuff, Vincer Megaviny the time now ten Minister.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Six Andrew Diggins.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
So the Treaty Principles Bill, did the Water National keep
their promise? They voted the bill down and at second
reading there's been hiccoy, there's been a hacker. There's been singing.
Yesterday a Parliamentary Privilege Committee hearing Minister for Maley Development
Tama Portaka called it cremation day with me is Chrisphinis
in former Minister for Treaty negotiations, inter National Government Hallo,
(29:41):
Chris Morning, Andrew. Your thoughts on the whole thing, Well,
I don't.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Think it's over. I think it's a foretaste of thought's
to come.
Speaker 13 (29:51):
I think that we'll have an election campaign, presumably in
twenty twenty six, when David Assumare will raise the issue again.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
He said it's very likely that a referendum is going
to be a bottom line in any coalition agreements going forward.
Is that a problem and as a referendum and excessively
simplistic way to deal with.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
The issue, yes, it is.
Speaker 13 (30:14):
It would be I think a prescription for disaster and division.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Okay, the word division has been used a lot, but
David said it wasn't about division, it was about unity.
Has this been divisive and has it been damaging?
Speaker 5 (30:30):
Well?
Speaker 13 (30:30):
I think that the problem really is that the principles
of the treaty are quite different from the principles that
he was advocating in his legislation. Many of the principles
he advocated could ideally go and look preamble to the
Constitution Act or something like that, but they don't reflect
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that the principles of the treaty.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
There are a.
Speaker 13 (30:57):
Different set of principles, and I think that's what's irritated
a few people.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
And new zim First has says it wants to modify
this sort of treaty principles that we have already inside
our legislation. Is that a better way of addressing the
concerns that people have about the priority of MARI issues
in public debate?
Speaker 13 (31:18):
Well, I do think there's a lot of lazy legislating
that goes on. And I was telling someone yesterday I
recall the discussion I had with Peter Sharpe's former Minister
of MARI Development, when I was Minister for the Arts
and was reviewing the Historic Places legislation. He wanted a
more general treaty clause and I wanted a specific one
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in order to give effect of the principles of the
treaty in this legislation, decision makers shall do a B
and six spell it out.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
So I think there's.
Speaker 13 (31:51):
Some legitimacy in the point that if you're going to
have a treaty clause, there could be better definition.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
All right, Chris for this in I think thank you
for your time. This is news talks there. B Yes,
I've got a text with Roger David Seymour said he
will seriously consider making a referendum on the Treaty principle
as a condition for any coalition agreement with the National
at the next election. So as Christophinerson Ritney says, this
is not dead in the water, I said dead in
the water at the beginning, it's not. It's going to
keep on guy, and that's for sure. It is coming up.
Six minutes to six.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
The first word on the News of the Day Early
edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof make your Property
Surge and symbol New Talk zippy.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Right. Oh yeah, we've got topol this weekend. We're going
to have Rupuna officially announced later. Tom writes, remember a
long time ago Wellington had a racing car event called
the Mobile five hundred. Oh yes, Tom. In fact I
went on a hot lap round that course. It was
a magnificent course with Robbie Frankevich in his racing volvo
that they called the Flying Brick. It was a great course.
But anyway, there we go, mister Huskin, good morning.
Speaker 14 (32:51):
Ten wrning. Was it really a good course? It was, well,
it was a made up course. It was a made
up with a lot of concrete blocks down at the
water front.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
And then it went all the way around that water
front which is down a promenade and you actually, when
I was in the car, I thought, I'm going to die.
I'm going to go into the into the water. We're
going to hit all the walls.
Speaker 7 (33:07):
That was excited.
Speaker 14 (33:07):
Will they manual?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, here's one was Yeah, where was a terrible card?
Remember a big old station Volvo and no aero dynamics whatsoever.
And he won everything.
Speaker 14 (33:18):
The andre Heimgartner, by the way, speaking of which is
on the program this morning, so he'll be It was
a who you're talking to the logistics? Do you think
they fly them in?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
No, I've just been told that. Say that was last year.
They took him to a Melbourne airport and then they
flew them in, And this year they actually took him
to a port and they shipped them in.
Speaker 14 (33:35):
I thought they were shipped in because the cost is inhibited.
So that's what makes Taupo so interesting and special, and
you know the town loves it and all that. So
we'll do that this weekend so that will see more
of the whole businesses.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Have a great weekend and I'll see you on Monday,
and then Ryan's back on Tuesday. My thanks to produce
a Kenzie. I'm coming to tear some hot cross buns. Kenzie.
Thank you and see you next week.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
It'd be welcome by to you. Not only is it
with some Peter's birthday, it's my birthday as well, and
welcome to the program. And it's Friday Nets Safe. Ask
the kids what they want in terms of protection from
the nasties on the internet. So i'll have that story
for you in five minutes. Topor is gearing up for
their biggest weekend with the supercars. We're going to talk
(00:32):
to the mayor in ten minutes. Finally someone has said
what needs to be said about our emissions trading scheme,
and I'll have that story for you just before five thirty.
And the whole Treaty Negotiations principles debate came to an
end yesterday, a messy end yesterday, So former Treaty Negotiations
Minister Chris Finnerson will join me just before six to
(00:53):
discuss what we learnt from it all. We'll have Vincent
mcavenni out of Europe. We'll also have corresponden some write
New Zealand and of course news as it breaks and
you can have your say by giving us a text
anytime you like. The number is ninety two ninety two,
and there is a small charge that applies. It's eight
after five. The agenda Friday, the eleventh of April. We
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start with the great tariff back down from Donald Trump.
As we heard yesterday on the show, Trump paused tariff
hikes for ninety days, but the universal ten percent levee
for all countries except China remains in place. Well, I
thought that people were jumping a little bit out of line.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
They were getting yippy.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
You know, they're getting a little bit yippy, a little
bit afraid.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Unlike these champions.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Somebody had to do it.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
They had to stop because it was not sustainable.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yippi. That's the word of the day. Yippie. Now, following
the move, the EU has put retaliatory tariffs on hold,
while the Trump administration says it's close to signing deals
with American's trading partners. US Treasury Secretary Scott Present says
they were acting to the markets and says, hey, this
is all part of the plan.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
This was driven by the president's strategy. Then I had
a long talk on Sunday, and this was his strategy
all along.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
And that you know, you might.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Even say that he go to China into a bad position.
They responded that they have shown themselves to the world
to be the bad actors.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Now there's been a development in the Idaho murders where
a judge is set to make decisions about what evidence
can and cannot be submitted at the upcoming death penalty
trial of Brian Coburger, who's accused of murdering four University
of Idaho students back in November twenty twenty two. So
Coburger faces four counts of first degree murders. This is
(02:45):
in the deaths of Madison Mogan, Katie Congarvli's, Zayana Canodle,
and Ethan Chapin. Now, this was at an off campus
home in Moscow, Idaho. Not guilty please have been entered
on his behalf. It was a marathon hearing and the
defense called on one of the only surviving room mates,
Dylan Mortensen, and he called him a unreliable eyewitness.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
DM is uncertain about the lighting. The stairs to her
left were not lit, the kitchen may or may not
have been lit, and the twinkle lights in the living
room may have been lit. She described seeing the person
for quote only a second.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
And finally, King Charles and Queen Camilla had been wrapping
up their visit to Italy. The two met the Pope
at the Vatican and celebrated their twentieth wedding anniversary at
a state banquet at the Presidential Palaces.
Speaker 7 (03:38):
To President, to me on this small.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Romantic cabin, he's a funny man, and yesterday I complained
that I hadn't heard him speaking in Italian. Last night
on the TV, I saw the King speaking in Italian
and his Italian was marvelous. It's ten out of five.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Get ahead of the headlines on Earl edition Andrew Dickens
and one roof make your Property Search Simple News Talk.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Sid be Highto. So the passion play that was the
Treaty Principal's Bill came to its predicted end yesterday not
with a whimper but a roar. There were impassion speeches.
There was singing, even though the speaker warned that that
was banned. He called for the cops. Willie Jackson got
predictably chucked out of the house for calling someone a
liar again. A national MP even got hot and bothered
(04:26):
on the day with Tama Puttaka, calling the whole thing
cremation day and a burial. The Prime Minister didn't attend
because he had important stuff to do. He had a
meeting with EWE and he had to do a speech
to the Wellington Chamber of Commerce. Chris Hipkins called the
Prime Minister a coward for not being there at the
end of a process that he allowed to happen in
the coalition agreement, and the architect of the bill, David Seymour,
(04:47):
said the idea is not dead. In fact, a referendum
is his new bottom line and coalition agreements going forward.
It all sounded pretty divisive, really, and so did the
marches on Parliament, so did the anti Malori vitriol all
over social media. And yet the funny thing always was
in this whole debate that David Seymour and the supporters
of the bill always said the bill was not divisive.
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In fact, the bill can't be divisive when it's three
sentences talked about unity and one New Zealand. But right there,
right before our eyes, there was division. And the division
is between the people who support the way we enact
the Treaty in our day to day lives and the
people who don't you know it quacked like a duck,
(05:29):
so let's call it a duck. It was divisive and
you know what, after all the fire and headlines, nothing
has happened. And I'm going to call this the best
political stunt in a generation. David Seymour's been in the
headlines for months. Take a bow, mister Seymour. Andrew Diggens
now Health New Zealand data. So it's the number of
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public funding colonoscopies have dropped more than seven percent. They've
got a made of mine. Who cause a colonoscopy? Riding
the black snake? Not pleasant, but they're very important anyway.
Health New Zealand then went on to say it's because
there was a temporary surge after the assignation of leftover
COVID funding, so we did more colonoscopies than usual in
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the twenty twenty two year, which is not wholly untrue,
but it fails to recognize the bigger picture, and that
is the fact that our population is aging. All the
boomers are well over sixty, and you know, you get
over sixty, that's when things start falling apart. Boo Canser
New Zealand has come out and said that an aging
population has been increasing at a rate of six point
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four percent over the past six years. So the COVID
year testing numbers that jumped up were not an outlier,
but rather a necessary correction to keep up with population.
In fact, they said yesterday we should probably be doing
eighty five hundred tests more than we actually do. Now,
look if I'm losing it with all these numbers, let's
put this in plain English. Bow cans in New Zealand
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says we're not testing enough because funding has dried up.
Now here's a question for the government. Is that a
false economy. The earlier you detect a cancer or disease,
the easier it is to treat, the easier it is
to treat, the cheaper it is to treat. Far too
many people die of bow cancer in this country, and
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there's been an extensive education campaign going back decades to
get people to look closely at their guts earlier in
their lives. So the reduction in klidoscopies and the reduction
of funding for them is a step backwards in the
nation's health and at the end of the day, it's
going to end out costing the taxpayer more Dickens. It's
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five fourteen. I'm meant for Ryan Bridge. He is back
on Tuesday. Heathers back on Monday. So net safe has
gone and asked one thousand kids about what's on social
media and what gives them the yips because yippie is
the word of the day and that's about time and
what they said might surprise you. Sure certainly should supplies legislators.
(08:03):
So I'm going to talk to net safe about this
in just a few moments time. It's coming up five
to fifteen.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
News and Views You Trust to start your day's early
edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof Make your Property
Search Simple? Can you've talk Sibby?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Well, it's seventeen minutes out to five. So new data
shows only one in three Kiwi pairents have rules around
their children's use of social media well the other two
out of three during while a report by Save the
Children and Netsafe shows over seventy five percent of Kiwi
kids what greater restrictions on harmful content. It comes as
TikTok presented new child safety features to Parliament on Wednesday.
(08:41):
So I'm joined now by netsafe's online safety Officer, Sean
Lyons and good morning Tea.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Sean, Good morning.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
So you spoke to nearly one thousand kids around New
Zealand and you found out what they want and they
want less nasties. So why are the adults still faffing about?
Speaker 5 (08:57):
Well, I mean, I think part of that Indy should
be listening to to those young users that are out
there eperiencing some of those challenges online. Those young people
had a real common sense approach to what it was
that they wanted. They understand and recognize that there's good
stuff that they see online, that they do online, but
also that there are steps that could be taken to
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make them safer online. And you know, like I said,
I think it's a real common sense approach that they've
come up with.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, the kids want to be safe online. So who
is responsible for these kids seeing harmful content online? Is
it the content providers? Or is it the government with
laws and regulations, or is it the parents?
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Well, I mean who's responsible for them seeing it would
be the people that put harmful content online and those
that seek to harm individuals. And that's as much the
case for young people as it is for adults. And
in terms of whose responsibility is it to stop that
or deal with that situation. It's a joint responsibility and
it goes from the responsibility of parents to ensure that
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they know what their young people they're doing and provide
support for it for young people directly if they need it.
But it's also about regulation, it's also about the platforms,
and it's also about education and the support that young
people get. But the main thing is it's really about
empowering young people to ensure that they know how to
look after themselves, how to how to deal with the
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situation that they come across.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
And that's very sensible and go the kids. But here's
the thing. The thing that got me is that two
out of three queuing parents have no rules around their
children's use of social media. So what would you like
to say to those parents.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Certainly when it's no rules at all, that that's something
that needs to be reviewed and reviewed regularly. I mean
that may well be because without rules, what they have
is other systems in place, or they have a degree
of confidence in their young people that they know what
to do. We could be talking about parents of fifteen
sixteen year olds who feel that their children are incredibly
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well equipped with the challenges they experience, and if that's
the case, then so be it. Our real worry is
that that comes out of parents who don't really understand
or haven't really engaged with what it is that those
online spaces and places that they're young people are in
look like. And really what we would the challenge I
guess that we would give to parents in that situation is,
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if that is the case, then this is the time
to step in, take a look yourself, talk to you
young people about what it is that they experience and
how they handle those challenges online. And if you still
feel that there's no need to put anything in place,
then that's that's an informed decision. I think the likelihood
is in that case that it's then time. What you
will find out is that it's time to institute something
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around those young people, be that educating them, be that
making a plan, be that working out what it is
and isn't. It's stickle in your house that something will
probably need to step into that place.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Sean very good work. That is Sean Lyon's the net
Safetief Online safety officer. And you know what I find
amazing about this is a lot of the new parents
these days, the Internet's been around for a while. They've
grown up with the internet. As kids, they would have
seen the nasties on the internet, and now they are
parents themselves, and you would have thought more of them
would know what to do, but not to be Hello, Kathy.
(12:12):
Kathy says, my husband's having a colonoscopy in a couple
of weeks. We are fortunate to have Southern Cross costing
US eight hundred dollars. Our excess is one thousand dollars.
Wish your husband all the very best. And yes, that's
the sensible thing to do, Kathy. It is five twenty one.
We're off to Topaul next because they've got a big
race this weekend.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Andrew Dickens on affili edition with one roof Make your
Property Search Simple, Youth Talk Zivvy.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
It's five twenty three. Text comes in and joint approach
sounds sensible when it comes to online safety, parents, platforms,
regulation and education. Good advice from net Safe. Thank you
for your text. I agree. So it's all on V
eight supercars back in Topaul this weekend and I've got
the mayor with me. David Treuevers. Hello David, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:56):
Good money, Andrew, Yeah, kyodo and yeah nice to nice
to hear your friendly voice in the morning this morning.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Now, sixty thousand people coming to pack in the region,
now that's got to be good.
Speaker 5 (13:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Absolutely. We had a taste of it last year, of course,
and this is the second year that we're doing it,
and yeah, it's just the town is absolutely buzzing and
we're looking forward to it. The weather forecast locks absolutely brilliant,
so we'll take it and we'll just do the job
and welcome all these Aussies into town and all the
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people from around New Zealand. So looking forward to it.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Okay, as you say, year two, So how did your
one go? What economic benefits did TOPO get?
Speaker 3 (13:38):
We got a measure done. We think about twenty twenty
to twenty three mill into the district just a direct
spend on the weekend. So you know that's pretty good
for a small population. So and good spenders too. It
covers all fields. You know, you've got your mum and
dads with the picnic rug and couple of kids, and
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then you've got ten thousand die hard motorsport fans you
know what they like. And then you've got the corporates
and they do the corporates really well. And Supercars is
a totally professional outfit.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
You know what I really like. I really like the
racecourse that's right beside the racecourse it ends up being
a camping town and that looks like the best fun
on earth to be fair.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Absolutely got the gliding club as well. The end the
gliders stop for the weekend and they all pack up
in the air as well.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Great stuff. What are you looking forward to the most?
What events over the weekend are you're looking forward to
the most?
Speaker 3 (14:31):
Well, the two finals of course on Saturday and Sunday,
and then the Jason Richards Trophies up for grabs as well,
of course. And you know you've got twenty four of
the best best teams in Australasia, that's for sure, and
pretty fast these vehicles. And yeah, so I'm not a
absolutely expert on the job, but I know there's a
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few favorites out there with the crowds of itself and
they really get behind the team, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Good work, Topaul, Good work David Treuwavis, and thank you
for your time. This Morning News Talks AB the early.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Edition full show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
It be.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
News Talks w B. I'm Andrew Dickinson for Ryan Bridge.
So last night on One News I heard the single
most logical, insane thing said on that bulletin in a
very long time. And it was said by Simon Upton,
the Parliamentary Commissioner for the Environment, a very smart man,
a Rhodes scholar, a former Minister for the Environment, for
national and this is what Simon Upton said.
Speaker 8 (15:33):
We should in an orderly way take forestry out of
their mission's trading scheme.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Blow me over with a feather. I thought, why has
it taken so long for someone so smart to come
out and say this so publicly. We should, in an
orderly way take forestry out of the emissions trading scheme.
Forestry for climate change has been a Ponzi scheme. In fact,
last night the bulletin, the One News bulletin, the Reporter
called it a golden ticket. It's swamp productive land for
easy gain. It's caused rampant while growth through our wildlands.
(16:01):
In the essence, pines and exotic stuff like that, just
a big weed unless you're farming it for wood and paper.
And even then that market's turning a little bit sour.
Has it done anything to reduce emissions. No, the numbers
keept going up and up each year. We've had long
enough for proof it has not. It has provided excuses
for well meeting pop bands to travel the world in
(16:22):
private jets, planting useless forests in their wake and claiming
moral superiority. But then the one news bit went and
to completely miss the point. The headline was we should
plant natives instead of pine, which he kind of did say,
but only if we keep on going with the nutso
forest planting scheme. What Simon proposed was completely removing the
ability of carbon polluters to rely on planting trees to
(16:46):
meet their climate obligations. That's a direct quote. Here's another,
as Simon said, the world actually needs real reductions and
gross emissions, not an accounting triumph hallelujah. If you want
to cut your emissions, then cut your emissions, don't plant
a tree.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Andrew Dickens, so.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
The supercars is all big, and of course we had
a breaking piece of news over the week, the Christian's
getting the supercars. A little bit more on that a
little bit later on, and later Christophinerson, former National Minister
for Treaty negotiations, on the whole treaty Principles Bill, This
thing which finally came to an end or did it yesterday?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
This new Stalk Sibby, The News you Need this morning
and the in Depth Analysis Early edition with Andrew Dickens
and one roof Make Your Property Search Simple News Talk Sibby.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
That's Katy Perry had a birthday sign for a birthday
boy were impeded, so obviously he's eighty today. Oh am me,
it's my today. People are asking how old are you.
I'm old enough. They really should book as session riding
the Black Snake, if you know what I mean. Thank
you for the birthday sign. Producer Kenzie, who, by the way,
has been driving me crazy all morning because shee's sitting
(18:13):
in the control booth eating hot crust buns with melted
butter all over them, and the smell of the spice
is all through the studio and I'm just so hungry,
but I don't eat while I'm on air, because unfortunate
things can happen when you're in the middle of a sentence. Now,
the news that christ Church is to get a supercars
race at Ruapoona was broken by One News earlier this week,
(18:36):
and by the way, this upset supercars because they did
embargo the news. We all kind of knew this was happening,
but they wanted to present the news on their terms.
They wanted all the attention on Topaul this week and
then after we have a big old party and a
good old time there we go. That was great. After
the flush of success of the weekend, they could then
come out and go, you know what, We're going to
(18:57):
do it twice in New Zealand, and we going to
do it in Chrazy at Ruapuna. But no one news
was shorter material, so they broke the story anyway. That
being so, it is fabulous good news and it makes
real sense. Getting the cars to Topol is a real
mission because they don't have a big airport there. They've
got to fly these things from Melbourne to here. They've
(19:18):
got to get them to the course. So Topul's a mission.
Central Ottaga was a mission christ Church, so so much easier.
They can fly the cars into the international airport and
they're ready to go just down the road. And the
reason christ Church got the NOD is because of their
council agency, christ Church end Z and they are on
fire right now. They've got a spiffing new stadium to market.
(19:41):
They're actively getting out there, actively selling the city. And
this in contrast to Auckland where the mayor there who
wants a limo and does video calls while driving. The
mayor there doesn't see the point of such a push
to get such events. You know what, if christ Church
keeps us up, they could end out being the events
capital of New Zealand. And I say, all power to them,
(20:02):
All power to them. I raise my finger a bit
too soon. We're around the country. Calm Proctor joins us
from Duneda and hello.
Speaker 9 (20:10):
Calum, morning Andrew.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
But we're here to talk about South and the landfill
at Bluff's Ocean Beach.
Speaker 9 (20:17):
Yeah. The work to contain the contaminated contents of this
landfill as well and truly underway, nearly complete here at
Ocean Beach. It's been off limits to the public now
since twenty eighteen after contaminants, including asbestos, was found there.
Since then, an asbestos removal companies have been hard at
work clearing about one point two tons of material from
(20:37):
the beach. Doc says the next phase for them is
to prevent any future contamination of the site and restore
public access. So they say a waste will be sorted
and removed before a ninety meter wall made of six
and a half thousand tons of rocks will be built
to prevent further erosion at Ocean Beach.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Good stuff, how's your weather?
Speaker 9 (20:58):
Pretty good? Fine today morning? Cloud nor West has developed
the high twenty one.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Claire. Sure what joins you from christ? You tell it?
Speaker 10 (21:03):
Claire, Good morning, Happy birthday?
Speaker 2 (21:05):
Thank you tell me. The story of Edgewear Pool.
Speaker 10 (21:08):
Well Edgewear Pool, if you know, you know, it's one
of those situations. This is a project that has been
locally really significant for a long long time, since before
the quakes. In fact, basically this pool had been there
for a very long time. It got into a bad state.
It was then demolished in two thousand and seven. The community, though,
was up in arms about it because there's not another
one very close, so they've been pushing to try to
(21:31):
get a pool back into the area. They ended up
purchasing the land from council for a single dollar in
twenty sixteen. They then had a number of hoops to
jump through. They've now done that and been able to
get consent to begin work. The coll news is the
construction will begin from this coming Monday now fourth term
local councilor and our deputy mayor. Actually, Pauline Cotter says
(21:52):
this Edgewhere Pool is what launched her political career. She
says it feels almost unbelievable to see it finally getting
to the stage, given it's taken so long, but it
shows the power of communities not giving up. She says,
it's a project very dear to her heart and will
go down as one of the many highlights in her career.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
How's christ Churcher's weather?
Speaker 10 (22:12):
A little cloudy this morning, northwesterly strengthening this afternoon and
a high of twenty.
Speaker 2 (22:16):
One Max Toll from Wellington. Good morning to you, Max,
Good morning. So we've got a clothing brand in Wellington
that's shutting.
Speaker 7 (22:22):
Yeah. So this is a Nissa which for about eight
years has really been held up as a success story
of the capital. It's an ethical underwear and activewear brand.
It only hires female workers predominantly from refugee and migrant backgrounds.
The materials are sustainable, organic hand sown, et cetera. But
the owner says what so many are that foot traffic
(22:45):
is just not the same anymore in central Wellington they're
based on Willis Street. The city much more quieter, people
working from home, cost of living, job cuts, et cetera,
et cetera. It's final day of trading tomorrow. It seems
no unsafe in the capital, all right?
Speaker 2 (22:59):
And how was the weather?
Speaker 7 (23:01):
Some early cloud clearing to find northerly's getting up to
eighteen central?
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Two? Or can we go? And even tomato? Good money
to Youay you're not on hot No, no, it's not
your fault.
Speaker 11 (23:11):
There we go right, A happy birthday very much? Can
I how old are you?
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Okay?
Speaker 11 (23:16):
Can I guess?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Cut me open and cut the rings? Sixty?
Speaker 7 (23:21):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
I am now okay. We've got a school in orcan
who spent four million bucks on a farm?
Speaker 12 (23:27):
Yes?
Speaker 11 (23:28):
Now? Saint Kentigan plans to open, or use, rather the
four hundred and thirteen hectaret Wilson Bay Farm as it's
third campus. This is alongside Remuerra and Pokodona grounds, so
it's aiming to have all students above year four traveling
out to the farm each year. This will happen from
around about twenty twenty seven onwards. The board says it's
going to remain a working farm. Students are going to
(23:51):
they'll be able to undertake scientific studies or prepare for
agricultural careers. And they'll enjoy water sports out there too.
And what's also called is at the school's looking it
fearing the students directly. This is from the shoreline of
its college and Pokadanga.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Wow.
Speaker 11 (24:05):
Yes, they would have been great back in our day
if we were able to do that.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Now are into Campa Dare, which is in the Hunus
Orcanders will know Camper Dare. And it was just a
little park and we went around. We made walking six
out of supplejack of that sort of stuff. How's Orchan's weather?
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Well?
Speaker 11 (24:21):
Partly cloudy today, isolated Charles clearing in the afternoon. Twenty
one is the high today.
Speaker 2 (24:25):
And I think you for your time today now of
course on the whole get rid of the forest because
they're ineffective for climate emissions and that whole mission trading
scheme thing that I talked about your textas coming in
brilliant Andrew, thanks you get it. The land of the
long Green Pine, ruining rural New Zealand for International Pallugas.
Thank you. Sarah John has an idea that maybe grass
(24:47):
should be promoted as the only paying carbon sequestera in
the ETS if you're not up with the story. As
Simon Upton said something quite brilliant on the news last night, Kensey,
have you got Simon? Could you play Simon again? I
can't hear this enough here he.
Speaker 8 (24:59):
Is should in an orderly way take forestry out of
the mission's training scheme.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Tomorrow now, Vincent McAvennie with us in a few moments time,
and we'll talk about King Charles and Queen Camilla's very
romantic twentieth wedding anniversary dinner in Italy, and later chrisphiner
Lissen on the Treaty Principles Bill which is dead in
the water, and what we've learned from the whole exercise.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
International correspondence with ins andn Eye Insurance, Peace of mind
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Speaker 2 (25:27):
This is thirteen to six. Into Europe, we go into
mecaveny Joints, the Hallivanton.
Speaker 12 (25:32):
Hi, good morning.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
I've managed to not say the tea word all morning long.
It has been a place of relief. But let's talk
tariff's reaction in Europe.
Speaker 12 (25:41):
Yeah, I think we've all been saying that word a
far too much over the past week. And there is
relief in Europe after the rate that the was going
to be applied to the block has fallen now down
to ten percent. They're holding off on reciprocal measures and focusing,
we understand, on trying to strike a deal in the
next ninety days to avoid any kind of increase in
(26:04):
those Once again, Ursla Vonderline saying she's confident that work
could be done. The UK, there's a bit of sore
feeling here because we've actually had a pretty good deal
compared to everyone else. We were on the ten percent
levy that others had not managed to get, so there
was seen as a little bit of benefit of everyone
else in Europe was going to get a higher rate.
(26:24):
We were going to be a little bit better. Some
saying it was potentially a little bit of a Brexit dividend,
something that we haven't seen much of in recent years.
So the feeling in Europe is that the stock markets
have gone up, there is now time to do something,
and trying to read the sort of behind the scenes
picture of what's going in the White House, people here
seem to feel confident that Donald Trump maybe has been
convinced out of his initial plan and that this was
(26:46):
really you know, if you go and engage with him
and negotiate, that is what he really wanted all along.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yes, but the stock markets aren't really an accurate barometer
really of business. That's a bolsters as the numbers that
count the stockmakets based on motion.
Speaker 7 (27:00):
So there we go.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
Look, let's Friday. Let's talk about King Charles and quin
Carmella's very romantic dinner for the twentieth anniversary in Italy
and also the magnificent speech by the King in the
Italian Parliament. What a room that was.
Speaker 12 (27:15):
Yeah, they've had a spectacular visit for four days to Italy.
We weren't sure if it was going to go ahead,
of course, with King Charles recently having a bit of
bother with his ongoing cancer treatment, having to cancel some
events about two weeks ago. But the event went ahead
and it was actually the twentieth anniversary of the couple
getting married in Windsor, and so they did a lot
(27:36):
of touring around the country. They had that state dinner
where Prince Charles joke that you know, it was a
romantic meal for two that had been put on just
with another one hundred and fifty people in attendance. They
visited the scenes of some wargraves and the particularly a
town where a lot of Canadian soldiers lost their lives,
something that Charles is going out of his way at
the moment to show support for Canada with the sort
(27:58):
of abuse that they're taking the United States on their sovereignty.
And they also visited a food market today they made
some pasta and they had their private meeting as well
with the Pope, which we didn't think was going to
happen given his ill health in recent months, but we
understand that happened behind closed doors and the couple received
a blessing from him and good.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
The hit of the Church of England meeting. Of course,
to the head of the Catholic Church. I understand you've
been at their Prince Harry court case.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 12 (28:25):
I spent two days in court in central London with
Prince Harry. He was at the Court of Appeal arguing
that the government had made a wrong calculation when it
comes to the security he and his family get when
they come to the UK. It's been moved to a
case by case basis, the government says, because they needed
that flexibility, because they didn't know what he was going
to do in terms of work and travel and everything else.
(28:46):
He's saying, though the thread against him is so high,
particularly because he did serve in the military. He fought
in Afghanistan and he was used as a sort of
recruitment tool by the military, putting a bigger target on him.
He's saying that it should be at the level it
was when he was a working royal, that his decision
back in twenty twenty shouldn't affect that, and he's claiming
that it's one of the reasons that he's been staying
(29:07):
away from the UK. So a panel of judges are
reviewing that decision now and they'll report at some point
in the next few weeks.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Great stuff, Vincer Megaviny the time now ten Minister.
Speaker 1 (29:17):
Six Andrew Diggins.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
So the Treaty Principles Bill, did the Water National keep
their promise? They voted the bill down and at second
reading there's been hiccoy, there's been a hacker. There's been singing.
Yesterday a Parliamentary Privilege Committee hearing Minister for Maley Development
Tama Portaka called it cremation day with me is Chrisphinis
in former Minister for Treaty negotiations, inter National Government Hallo,
(29:41):
Chris Morning, Andrew. Your thoughts on the whole thing, Well,
I don't.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
Think it's over. I think it's a foretaste of thought's
to come.
Speaker 13 (29:51):
I think that we'll have an election campaign, presumably in
twenty twenty six, when David Assumare will raise the issue again.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
He said it's very likely that a referendum is going
to be a bottom line in any coalition agreements going forward.
Is that a problem and as a referendum and excessively
simplistic way to deal with.
Speaker 5 (30:12):
The issue, yes, it is.
Speaker 13 (30:14):
It would be I think a prescription for disaster and division.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Okay, the word division has been used a lot, but
David said it wasn't about division, it was about unity.
Has this been divisive and has it been damaging?
Speaker 5 (30:30):
Well?
Speaker 13 (30:30):
I think that the problem really is that the principles
of the treaty are quite different from the principles that
he was advocating in his legislation. Many of the principles
he advocated could ideally go and look preamble to the
Constitution Act or something like that, but they don't reflect
(30:54):
that the principles of the treaty.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
There are a.
Speaker 13 (30:57):
Different set of principles, and I think that's what's irritated
a few people.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
And new zim First has says it wants to modify
this sort of treaty principles that we have already inside
our legislation. Is that a better way of addressing the
concerns that people have about the priority of MARI issues
in public debate?
Speaker 13 (31:18):
Well, I do think there's a lot of lazy legislating
that goes on. And I was telling someone yesterday I
recall the discussion I had with Peter Sharpe's former Minister
of MARI Development, when I was Minister for the Arts
and was reviewing the Historic Places legislation. He wanted a
more general treaty clause and I wanted a specific one
(31:41):
in order to give effect of the principles of the
treaty in this legislation, decision makers shall do a B
and six spell it out.
Speaker 5 (31:50):
So I think there's.
Speaker 13 (31:51):
Some legitimacy in the point that if you're going to
have a treaty clause, there could be better definition.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
All right, Chris for this in I think thank you
for your time. This is news talks there. B Yes,
I've got a text with Roger David Seymour said he
will seriously consider making a referendum on the Treaty principle
as a condition for any coalition agreement with the National
at the next election. So as Christophinerson Ritney says, this
is not dead in the water, I said dead in
the water at the beginning, it's not. It's going to
keep on guy, and that's for sure. It is coming up.
Six minutes to six.
Speaker 1 (32:20):
The first word on the News of the Day Early
edition with Andrew Dickens and one roof make your Property
Surge and symbol New Talk zippy.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Right. Oh yeah, we've got topol this weekend. We're going
to have Rupuna officially announced later. Tom writes, remember a
long time ago Wellington had a racing car event called
the Mobile five hundred. Oh yes, Tom. In fact I
went on a hot lap round that course. It was
a magnificent course with Robbie Frankevich in his racing volvo
that they called the Flying Brick. It was a great course.
But anyway, there we go, mister Huskin, good morning.
Speaker 14 (32:51):
Ten wrning. Was it really a good course? It was, well,
it was a made up course. It was a made
up with a lot of concrete blocks down at the
water front.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
And then it went all the way around that water
front which is down a promenade and you actually, when
I was in the car, I thought, I'm going to die.
I'm going to go into the into the water. We're
going to hit all the walls.
Speaker 7 (33:07):
That was excited.
Speaker 14 (33:07):
Will they manual?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, here's one was Yeah, where was a terrible card?
Remember a big old station Volvo and no aero dynamics whatsoever.
And he won everything.
Speaker 14 (33:18):
The andre Heimgartner, by the way, speaking of which is
on the program this morning, so he'll be It was
a who you're talking to the logistics? Do you think
they fly them in?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
No, I've just been told that. Say that was last year.
They took him to a Melbourne airport and then they
flew them in, And this year they actually took him
to a port and they shipped them in.
Speaker 14 (33:35):
I thought they were shipped in because the cost is inhibited.
So that's what makes Taupo so interesting and special, and
you know the town loves it and all that. So
we'll do that this weekend so that will see more
of the whole businesses.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Have a great weekend and I'll see you on Monday,
and then Ryan's back on Tuesday. My thanks to produce
a Kenzie. I'm coming to tear some hot cross buns. Kenzie.
Thank you and see you next week.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
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