The Marketing Phoenix Podcast

Cold outreach sucks. For most law firm buyers, cold emails without context are an instant delete.

Legal tech startups and B2B sales teams can’t afford to waste time on outdated sales approaches. The good news? Outbound sales feels different when sales reps use marketing insights, consultative selling, and solution selling strategies that build trust with decision makers.

In this episode of The Marketing Phoenix Podcast, Melissa “Rogo...

Too many legal tech vendors are still leading with features, buzzwords, and AI hype. The problem? Law firms don’t buy technology specs—they buy solutions that solve real pain points and impact the bottom line.

In this episode of The Marketing Phoenix Podcast, host Melissa “Rogo” Rogozinski talks with Steven Lerner, senior reporter at Law360 Pulse, about how vendors can stop overselling technology and start connecting with buyers by ...

AI is no longer a buzzword.  It’s transforming how law firms and legal tech vendors approach marketing, sales, and business growth. But adoption is the real challenge. Without leadership buy-in, data cleanup, and workflow integration, the tools won’t drive impact.

In this episode of The Marketing Phoenix Podcast, Melissa “Rogo” Rogozinski sits down with AI adoption leader Melissa Ballesteros, an AmLaw 100 trainer, certified AI Promp...

Without Sales and Marketing alignment, pipelines stall, client acquisition slows, and company valuations suffer.

In this episode of Marketing Phoenix, Melissa “Rogo” Rogozinski talks with George Farrall. He is the Managing Partner at Compass Business Advisors. They discuss how marketing can better support sales. From fixing broken handoffs to creating trusted-advisor messaging, they unpack the strategies that actually drive growth.

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Too many salespeople chase titles instead of tackling real challenges. 

In this episode of The Marketing Phoenix Podcast, host Melissa “Rogo” Rogozinski is joined by law firm buyers of legal tech, Marimer Muñoz (Kluger Kaplan) and Emily Bartkowicz (Akerman), to explore how consultative selling and solution selling can make or break your discovery calls.

For legal tech, law firm, and B2B professionals, this discussion sheds light on t...

Too many sales pros walk into key accounts without a strategy and end up wasting opportunities ripe for conversion. 

In this episode of The Marketing Phoenix Podcast, Melissa “Rogo” Rogozinski shares a personal story that forever changed the way she approached B2B sales and client acquisition.

If you’re in legal tech, a law firm, or any B2B field, this episode is packed with practical steps to transform short discovery calls into lon...

Your sales team is hustling hard, but win rates aren’t moving. The real problem? You might be selling to the wrong Ideal Client Profile (ICP).

 In this episode of The Marketing Phoenix Podcast, Melissa “Rogo” Rogozinski sits down with sales leader CJ Webster to unpack the risks of targeting the wrong ICPand how it quietly sabotages your sales forecasting, sales pipeline, and revenue growth.

For legal tech companies, law firms, and B2...

If your prospects are ghosting you, the problem may not be your pitch — it’s your research. Discover how to find the right decision-makers, prepare smarter, and turn cold calls into warm conversations.

Overview:  

Legal tech sales, law firm business development, and B2B Sales all have one thing in common — the most successful reps never skip research. In this Marketing Phoenix Podcast episode, Melissa “Rogo” Rogozinski talks with Cor...

Whether you're managing leads in a startup or navigating enterprise-level sales, choosing the right lead qualification framework is the key to closing smarter, faster, and more profitably.

In this episode of The Marketing Phoenix Podcast, host Melissa “Rogo” Rogozinski breaks down three powerhouse sales frameworks—BANT, CHAMP, and MEDDICC—to help you qualify leads with clarity, confidence, and consistency. 

For legal tech, SaaS,...

Episode Summary:  

Melissa "Rogo" Rogozinski sits down with Gil Wolchock, VP of Outside Sales at Steno, to unpack two powerhouse sales mindsets: the “HUNTERS” and the “Challenger.” Together, they explore how today’s best sales teams leverage consultative selling, marketing alignment, and RevOps strategy to close more deals in competitive markets like legal tech.

Whether you lead sales at a startup, scale-up, or enterprise, ...

Too many companies confuse product marketing with product management—costing them alignment, customers, and revenue. Learn how to unify your strategy and drive results.

In this final episode of the Marketing Phoenix Podcast's six-month Growth Marketing Series, Melissa Rogozinski sits down with B2B product strategy consultant, Tina John, to unpack the critical differences and collaboration points between product management and p...

What’s the real reason your prospects aren’t buying? Spoiler: it’s not your pricing.

In this episode of The Marketing Phoenix Podcast, Melissa “Rogo” Rogozinski breaks down a practical, structured approach to sales that empowers prospects to choose your solution. No pushy tactics, just proven strategies that turn preparation and follow-through into closed deals.

Whether you’re running sales for a legal tech startup or leading a B2B s...

Is your marketing generating leads, but your sales team isn’t closing them? Or maybe your content strategy and CRM aren’t playing nicely? You're not alone—and the good news is, there’s a fix.

In this episode of The Marketing Phoenix Podcast, Melissa “Rogo” Rogozinski breaks down the 7 major barriers that disrupt marketing and sales alignment and walks you through actionable strategies to close those gaps. Whether you’re buildin...

Does your sales team have a clear process to qualify leads, run discovery meetings, and keep deals moving? If no, or if it's inconsistent, sales enablement can change that.

In this episode of The Marketing Phoenix Podcast, Melissa “Rogo” Rogozinski outlines a practical approach to sales enablement for B2B SaaS professionals and legal tech leaders. Instead of generic playbooks or disconnected tools, this strategy focuses on impl...

Are you still sitting on a goldmine of cold leads that never converted? They’re not dead—they’re just waiting for the right conversation. 

In this episode of The Marketing Phoenix Podcast, Melissa Rogozinski sits down with Sophia Sprowls, Marketing and Sales Operations Manager at RPC Strategies, to share a behind-the-scenes look at how they transformed their existing content and CRM into a strategic email campaign that drives lead c...

Only 2% of website visitors convert on their first visit. That stat alone reveals a critical gap in relying on inbound marketing alone. 

If you’re serious about growth, you need a strategic outbound engine—and that’s where email campaigns come in. 

In this episode of The Marketing Phoenix Podcast, Melissa "Rogo" Rogozinski, founder of RPC Strategies, breaks down why email campaigns are the gravitational center of any high-p...

Why aren’t your leads converting? The answer might lie in how you’re generating demand.

Did you know? Demand Generation is one of the most misunderstood (but mission-critical) topics for B2B tech and legal tech startups.

If you’re struggling to build pipeline, align sales and marketing, or turn awareness into revenue, this episode is your playbook. Melissa breaks down exactly what demand generation is, how it fits...

You’ve built awareness. You’ve generated demand. You’ve captured leads. So why aren’t they converting? 

In this episode of The Marketing Phoenix, Melissa "Rogo" Rogozinski is joined by B2B growth expert Martha MacPherson to tackle the silent killer of sales pipelines: poor lead management.

Most early-stage legal tech and B2B companies pour their energy (and budget) into brand awareness and lead generation—only to ...

Founders, CMOs, or RevOps at legal tech startups - do you have a full pipeline but no conversions?

If your pipeline is full but your sales team is still struggling, it’s time to fix the MQL-to-SQL handoff.

This episode reveals the difference between MQLs and SQLs, why targeted content wins, and how smart hand-offs to sales can change the game for your B2B pipeline. Catch a real-world case study from a legal tech...