The Perfect Rise: Conversations with RBA

The Perfect Rise: Conversations with RBA

"The Perfect Rise: Conversations with RBA" is your all-access pass to the heart of the retail baking industry. Each episode brings you inside the kitchen with leading bakers, educators, and innovators who share their stories, tips, and insights. From the secrets of achieving the perfect loaf to navigating business growth, we explore what it takes to elevate your baking craft and career. Whether you’re a seasoned pro, an aspiring baker, or simply hungry for inspiration, tune in and discover how the Retail Bakers of America helps you rise to every challenge—and savor every success.

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August 21, 2026 19 mins

What does it really take to earn the title of Certified Master Baker, and what can the credential unlock in a baker’s career? 

In this encore episode of The Perfect Rise, Kimberly Houston speaks with Chef LeAnn Adams, CMB, about one of the baking industry’s most respected professional certifications. Chef LeAnn shares her journey to becoming a Certified Master Baker, the intense preparation required for the practica...

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The baking industry has always celebrated resilience, grit, and the ability to push through. But what happens when the cost of that resilience becomes too high?

In this re-released episode of The Perfect Rise, Kimberly Houston sits down with Jasmine Papadopoulos, Chief Growth Officer of CHOW (Culinary Hospitality Outreach & Wellness), for a conversation that is just as relevant today as when it first aired. Together, they explor...

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Building a successful business rarely starts with a perfect plan. More often, it begins with recognizing an opportunity that everyone else has overlooked. 

In this episode of The Perfect Rise, Kimberly Houston sits down with Kevin O'Reilly, founder of Satin Fine Foods and the creator of Satin Ice, to explore the journey from a family bakery in Dublin, Ireland, to leading one of the world's most recognized cake decorating brands...

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What does it really take to become great in the pastry industry?

In this episode of The Perfect Rise, Kimberly I. Houston sits down with award-winning executive chocolatier Justin Fry, founder of JF Chocolat and President of the National Pastry Conference, for a conversation about the habits, mindset, and community that shape exceptional pastry professionals.

Justin shares how years of competition taught him that mastery isn't about ...

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What does it take to build an internationally recognized cake artistry career from the ground up?

In this episode of The Perfect Rise, Kimberly I Houston sits down with award-winning sugar artist, educator, author, and Sweet Art Master founder Julia Fedorova.

After immigrating to the United States in 2015 without speaking English or having a background in the cake industry, Julia taught herself sugar artistry, competed her way to mas...

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What happens when a retail baking supply store becomes a workforce development pipeline for the future of the baking industry? 

In this episode of The Perfect Rise, Kimberly Houston sits down with Cyndi Benavides, owner of Cake Craft Shoppe and founder of the Youth Baking Academy in Houston, Texas. 

Together, they discuss how Cyndi transformed a teaching kitchen into a multi-year program focused on baking, cake decorating, ...

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In this episode of The Perfect Rise, Kimberly Houston speaks with Kristen Egan about the changing realities of pastry, hospitality, and culinary education.

From working in luxury hotels and some of the country’s most respected fine dining kitchens to building a successful pastry business and eventually teaching at the CIA, Chef Egan has experienced nearly every side of the industry.

This conversation explores:
• Why pastry c...

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What happens when a fine dining chef challenges one of the most traditional processes in baking? 

In this episode of The Perfect Rise, Kimberly Houston sits down with Craig Hutchinson, COO and co-owner of Olmo Bagels, to talk about how innovation, hospitality, and operational thinking helped transform a pandemic pivot into one of the most talked-about bagel brands in the country. 

Craig shares how Olmo Bagels pioneered a Ne...

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What do you do when giving 150% to someone else’s dream gets you nowhere?

You build your own.

In this episode of The Perfect Rise, Kimberly Houston sits down with Kady Miller, founder of Alchemy Bake Lab in Houston, Texas, for an honest conversation about what it really takes to build a bakery from the ground up.

After being laid off from her corporate job, Kady made the decision to go all in on herself. What followed was a jour...

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Most people think baking is about creativity.

Rachel Liu Martindale will tell you it’s about systems.

In this episode of The Perfect Rise, Rachel shares what it really looks like to walk away from a stable engineering career and build a bakery from the ground up—without skipping the hard parts. From scaling recipes and calculating margins to testing demand through pop-ups and navigating a business through COVID, this conv...

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There’s a version of the baking industry that people want to believe in—one where hard work, consistency, and great products are enough to guarantee success. 

But the reality? It’s more complicated than that. 

In this episode of The Perfect Rise, I’m joined by Martin Barnett, Executive Director of Baking Association of Canada, who has spent nearly five decades in the industry—spanning family ba...

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What does flour have to do with growth, consistency, and long-term success in the baking industry? More than most people realize. 

In this episode of The Perfect Rise, Kimberly sits down with Nancy Muller, a foodservice professional with more than 30 years of industry experience and over 22 years in baking, to talk about the business side of one of the most foundational ingredients in the industry. 

Nancy shares how early m...

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What does it take to grow a small-town bakery into a thriving regional business?

In this episode of The Perfect Rise Podcast, host Kimberly Houston sits down with Lynn Schurman, co-owner of Cold Spring Bakery in Minnesota and former Education Director for the Retail Bakers of America.

Cold Spring Bakery began as a small family operation in 1946, founded by Lynn’s in-laws after her father-in-law learned baking while serving in t...

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What does it really take to become a Certified Master Baker—and then choose to teach the next generation?

In this episode of The Perfect Rise, I sit down with Jesse Jackson III, CMB, Baking & Pastry Instructor at the Culinary Institute of America and one of only two African American Retail Bakers of America Certified Master Bakers.

This conversation isn’t just about titles.
 It’s about discipline. Standa...

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In this episode of The Perfect Rise, we sit down with Chad Ecklof, third-generation owner of Ecklof Bakery, to talk about legacy, leadership, and why profit literacy—not just passion—is the difference between survival and sustainability.

Chad shares how nine years in the U.S. Navy shaped his leadership style, what it’s like working side by side with his father in a legacy bakery, and how outdated pricing systems le...

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What does real mastery look like when nobody’s watching?

In this episode of The Perfect Rise, I’m joined by Colette Christian—chef, educator, and certification powerhouse—whose career started in professional kitchens at 14 and evolved through hotels, production baking, business ownership, and culinary education.

We talk about the unsexy truth behind skill: repetition, systems, and the willingness to take on th...

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Buddy Valastro is often introduced as Cake Boss—but long before television, books, and global recognition, he was (and still is) a retail baker.

In this episode of The Perfect Rise: Conversations with the Retail Bakers of America, Buddy joins host Chef Kimberly Houston for a grounded, honest conversation about what it really takes to run a bakery in today’s market. From leadership inside a multi-generation family busines...

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Most people think a career in baking means spending your life inside a kitchen—but today’s guest proves the industry is far bigger, more innovative, and more full of possibility than most bakers ever imagine.

In this episode, Kimberly sits down with Kelly DeFusco, a Principal Bakery Scientist at Tastepoint by IFF with 34 years in the flavor industry. Kelly’s journey started with homemade 3D birthday cakes, a family...

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What happens when you spot a gap in the market that should exist… and decide to build it yourself?

BagelFest was born from that exact moment — an idea that didn’t make sense not to exist. In today’s episode, Chef Kimberly sits down with the “Bagel Ambassador” himself, Sam Silverman, to explore how a first-time festival in Bushwick evolved into the beating heart of global bagel culture.

This episod...

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What if one cake could change everything?

In this heartfelt episode of The Perfect Rise Podcast, Chef Kimberly Houston sits down with Tracy Quisenberry, founder of Icing Smiles, a nonprofit that brings joy to critically ill children and their families through custom celebration cakes made by volunteer bakers.

Tracy’s journey didn’t begin in the kitchen—it started with service. After years as a tax professional and v...

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