Batman Ninja vs. Yakuza League Review

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This is a DynaMic Network Podcast. I'm MarvelousJoe and I'm his twin brother Johnny DC. And in this

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episode we are going to review the latest DCanimated direct video release Batman Ninja vs.
Yakuza League. It is the sequel to the 2018 BatmanNinja film, which was phenomenal. Does the sequel
hold up? We will let you know later on this episode.Yes it does. I said later on this episode. Come on

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man, now they have no reason to listen to the rest.They will. Especially since this is an all DC
episode because before the review we're going tobreak down the latest comic book movie news that
came out this past week, of which there was just onenews item and that was the report on Colin Farrell
being in talks to play Sergeant Rock in that movie.Yeah we're going to talk about that later. As
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other. This Wednesday hosts Scotty and Gilly arefinding out who would win in a fight between
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Zachary Hepburn speculates on fights between fanfavorite anime and mage characters. In Zach's
next episode he is going to discuss who would winbetween Vasto Lorde Ichigo from Bleach versus Six

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popular video game characters. In yesterday'sepisode they determined who would win between VV
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of the shows in the Dynomic podcast network. Butwith that out of the way. Quick to the No Prize! A No
Prize is an award Marvel used to give out to fans.Our version, the Dynamic Dual No Prize, is a
digital award that we post on Instagram for theperson that we feel gave the best answer to our
question of the week. Last week we asked you guys,what character do you think Sadie Sink will be

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playing in the upcoming fourth Spider-Man filmfrom Marvel Studios? That was coming off of the
news that Sadie Sink has been cast in a role in thefourth Spider-Man movie though no one knows what
that role is. So we asked you guys what yourthoughts were. We got three honorable mentions to
get through as well as one No Prize winner. Ourfirst honorable mention goes to Christopher

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Manati, who said, Hi guys, Christopher Manati. SoI don't know that much about Sadie Sink, I haven't
seen Stranger Things or anything so my answer ismore based on a character I want to show up and that
would be Black Cat. I really like Black Cat as acharacter and I've wanted her to show up in a
Spider-Man movie for a little while and I think itcould lead to some very funny scenes, especially

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with Tom Holland's Spider-Man and with howawkward he is. So yeah, that's my answer. Yeah, I
think that thematically introducing Black Catinto Spider-Man 4 would make sense, considering,
you know, at the end of Spider-Man 3, Peter Parkerwas resigned to kind of move on with his life with MJ
and Ned for getting all about him. And so it would beinteresting to see how he copes with moving on from

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that relationship with this new superhero chickwho's really into him and maybe there's a romantic
connection between them. Yeah, it would be a testof his love, whether he has moved on from MJ as she
has or not. I agree, I think thematically it wouldwork. Now, whether or not Sadie Sink could
actually play the character of Black Cat in the wayI would envision the character of Black Cat to

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appear on the silver screen, I don't know aboutthat. But it's an interesting idea nonetheless.
Well, who could play Black Cat in the way that youenvision, do you think? I don't know, like Sidney
Sweeney, I know that's a really kind of obviousanswer and it can't really happen since she played
Julia Carpenter in Madame Web, but that's kind ofwho I was thinking would make an ideal Black Cat.

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No, because I have dibs on her for Power Girl. Iguess that would make more sense than showing up in
Spider-Man 4 as a different character within theSpider-Man universe. That's right. Great
answer, Christopher. Our next honorable mentiongoes to Travis Herndon, who said, What's up,
dynamic dudes? Travis here. Shout out to my eviltwin. So my answer has to be Gene Gray, since the MCU
is following the ultimate Spider-Maninterpretation of the character who was the first

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X-Man he met in the comics. Gene Gray. And if I couldsay that X-Man characters would be popping in and
out of future MCU projects, so it would make senseto introduce Gene right now so we can get a look at
her. Yeah, I can see this making sense too. In theinitial Ultimate comics, which came out in the

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early aughts, Ultimate Spider-Man had acrossover with the Ultimate X-Man. And while I
wouldn't say that the MCU is a direct adaptation ofthe Ultimate line of comics, it's really a mixture
of both Ultimate Universe and the 616 Universe. Ithink it would be totally cool for the heroes to
meet up with each other while they're still earlyin their respective careers. And actually have

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X-Man springboard as a wear off of the Spider-Manfranchise. Yeah, I would not hate that. I think she
would be a fantastic Gene Gray. And whether shemakes her first appearance in the Spider-Man
movie or any other Marvel movie, I don't think itmatters, because I actually think she's perfect
casting for a younger version of that character.Yeah, and then she grows with the role. Boom. Great

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answer, Travis. Our final honorable mention goesto by Dear Bangura, who said, Hello, dynamic duo. I
think that Sadie Sink should play Kitty Pride. Ithink there in the Ultimate comics, she was a
redhead that was dating Peter Parker. So I thinkthat would be a great combination and it would be a

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great red herring. Thank you. Yeah, so similar tothe Gene Gray answer, I think I actually like this
idea more where she's potentially playing KittyPride, because in the Ultimate comic books, Kitty
Pride and Peter Parker were an item in the same waylike Black Cat and Peter Parker were an item. But
Kitty Pride is a member of the X-Men as Shadow Cat.So you can still have that X-Men crossover there,

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but with also a potential love interest, asopposed to Gene Gray, who was not a love interest
for Peter Parker. So I think Kitty Pride kind ofserves the best of both worlds in terms of the X-Men
with Gene Gray and in terms of a romantic interestangle with Black Cat, because she is both of those
things. Oh, I had no idea that Kitty Pride datedPeter Parker in the Ultimate universe. Yeah, I

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still think Sadie would make a better Gene Gray,though I do like the idea of introducing Kitty
Pride as a love interest in a Spider-Man movie.Now, is that just due to the red hair? Oh, 100% yes.
Okay, okay. Great answer by dear. We want to give aquick shout out to Mason Thompson and Lee Tapscott
for calling in with their answers. But the winnerof this week's No Prize is Harrison Fox, who said,

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Hey guys, Harrison Fox. So initially I wasthinking that Sadie would be playing Black Cat,
but the more I think about it, the more I feel thatmaybe it's going to be Gwen Stacy. And this version
of Gwen Stacy, instead of being killed off in a verydramatic way, will become our Spider-Gwen. And
then we can have a Spider-Woman character dosomething, unlike the three that were introduced

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in Madam Web. I think that would be a great idea. Ireally like this idea. Now, we all know that Gwen
Stacy's fate is to die at the hands of Green Goblin,but we've seen that done in the amazing Spider-Man
films with Andrew Garfield. And I think that fansare clamoring for a live action version of
Spider-Gwen. So it's entirely possible thatSadie Sink is playing Gwen Stacy, and they'll be

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riffing on the character's history byincorporating a little bit of Spider-Gwen story
from her respective universe. You can totally seethis happening, especially since Spider-Man 4 is
supposed to take place between the two Avengersmovies, and therefore you could introduce some
multiversal elements into it. I don't know, SadieSink would look like Blonde? Well, I mean, Bryce

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Dallas Howard played Gwen Stacy in Spider-Man 3,and she was given a wig or dyed her hair blonde. So
there's precedent there in terms of the haircolor. What I like most about this answer, though,
is that it didn't deal with the X-Men. It dealt morewith the Spider-Verse, which is really where I
think the franchise should be going. And also, youknow, Spider-Gwen could be a potential love
interest as well. Because I don't think we've seenthat in the comics. I don't think we've seen

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Spider-Gwen be a love interest for 616Spider-Man. So great answer, Harrison Fox. You
win this week's No Prize. If you the listener want ashot at winning your own No Prize, stay tuned to
later on this episode when we'll be asking anotherquestion of the week. And now that that's done, on
to the news! Okay, so not too long ago, we learnedthat Luca Guadagnino, the director of films such

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as Challengers and Suspiria, pitched James Gunnand Peter Saffron, the heads of DC Studios, on a
Sergeant Rock film written by his longtimewriting collaborator, Justin Karitsky. Now,
initially, the rumors were that Daniel Craig wasinterested in playing the title role of Sergeant
Rock, considering he had just come off of workingwith Luca Guadagnino in the film Queer. But it

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looks like Daniel Craig has moved on from theSergeant Rock role, and currently Colin Farrell
is in talks to star as Sergeant Rock. Thank God,man. All right, I was getting really scared there
that DC was going to nab up another James Bondactor, and just can't have that. Just cannot have
that. Now Daniel Craig can come over to Marvelwhere he belongs. Yeah, it's never going to

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happen. Now, this is interesting because ColinFarrell is famously, and to much acclaim, already
playing Oswald Cobb, the Penguin in Matt Reeves,The Batman Universe. Of course, he plays that role
under heavy makeup, and he's basicallyunrecognizable in both voice and demeanor. So I

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could actually see this working. Oh, absolutely.Colin Farrell is one of the more dynamic actors of
his generation. The guys at Chameleon, he could doanything, and you would never even know that the
actors were the same. Yeah, I mean, an actor of hiscaliber can clearly pull off anything. I am
concerned, though, about the physicality of therole. Like, Colin Farrell doesn't strike me as

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being, like, as physical as a soldier would need tobe. What are you talking about? He was super
physical in Daredevil as the character Bullseye.Ugh, don't remind me. But no, like, in the past, a
Sergeant Rock film has been attempted by actorssuch as Bruce Willis and Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Like, they've tried to make this film before, butthey just never came to pass. And what I think of

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Colin Farrell, I don't necessarily think actionstar in the same way that I do actors like Willis and
Schwarzenegger. I think Colin Farrell couldtotally pull that off too, though, the 80s action
era. The only way I see this working is if it's morelike a saving private Ryan-type film, as opposed
to something like, I don't know, Rambo. So you'rethinking he's more Tom Hanks than Ben Affleck in

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Pearl Harbor? Yeah, which doesn't surprise meconsidering the director. He hasn't really done a
big war movie like this, or like too much action ingeneral, outside of a tennis match. So yeah, I can
see this definitely being more cerebral thanaction, which is fine by me, honestly. I mean, if
his pitch was good enough for James Gunn and PeterSaffron, it's good enough for me, and I can't wait

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to see if Colin Farrell's cast. Someone needs to becast relatively soon because they want to start
shooting this movie this summer. Who would be yourideal actor if it wasn't Colin Farrell? Oh,
interesting question. Yeah, who's a big nameaction star right now? Uh, Chris Hemsworth? Thor,
really? Yeah, he's done with Marvel. After Loveand Thunder, just let him move on, poor guy. The

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hell is wrong with you? I regret asking thisquestion because you just gave the absolutely
worst answer of all time. Or, or the best answer.No. Speaking of Colin Farrell playing both the
penguin and potentially Sergeant Rock, thatbrings us to our question of the week. What Marvel

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or DC actor whose performance was hidden bypractical or special effects would you like to see
play another character? And which one? We've seenthis before with actors like Gemma Chan, who
played in Captain Marvel and The Eternals, and JaiMinhatsu, who played in Aquaman and the Shazam
movies. But besides those two, what actor wouldyou choose? Record your answer at

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dynamicdool.com by clicking on the redmicrophone button in the bottom right hand corner
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long and don't forget to leave your name in case weinclude you on the podcast. We'll pick our
favorite answer and award that person a dynamicduel no prize that we'll post to Instagram. Be sure
to answer before March 29th. But that does it forall the news for this episode, so let's go ahead and

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move into our main event, where we review thelatest DC animated film to hit home video, Batman
Ninja vs Yakuza League. Batman Ninja vs YakuzaLeague Okay, Batman Ninja vs Yakuza League. It's

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the direct sequel to 2018's direct-to-videoanime feature, Batman Ninja. Both films were
written by Kazuki Nakashima and directed byJunpei Mizusaki, with Shinji Takaji
co-directing the sequel. I loved the first film. Ilove most anime I see honestly, especially if it's

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DC related projects like my adventures withSuperman or Suicide Squad Isakai. They're some of
DC's greatest animated projects. But BatmanNinja is a project that I've rewatched numerous
times since its release, and I love it every time Iwatch it. I've had nothing but high expectations
for this sequel, which usually leads to somedisappointment, but not here. Batman Ninja vs

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Yakuza League is a worthwhile successor to thefirst film that amps up the action, the stakes, the
badass design, and the absurdism from the firstfilm to a whole other level. And I recommend it to
any Batman or anime fan out there. Yeah, I reallyenjoyed this film. It also surpassed my
expectations. I was not expecting this to be asgood as the original Ninja Batman, which was

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fantastic. You know, I had my criticisms of it, butit still kind of held up in my mind, and now so does
the sequel. Absolutely. If you haven't seen thismovie yet, please make sure you do so before
listening to this spoiler review. The film isavailable now on digital platforms, though
physical copies won't be available untilmid-April. Now, while I recommend the film, just

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be aware that the original Japanese languageversion was not available upon the film's early
digital release, but I'm hoping that it will beavailable by the time the physical version comes
out. Yeah, that was fucking stupid. And really,that's the only way I watched the original Batman
Ninja was the Japanese audio. That's right. And soI was like, I don't want to watch this now. I don't

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really prefer dubs over subs. No, I 100% prefersubs. I was pissed when I first realized the audio
issue with the digital release because I vastlypreferred the original Japanese language
version to the English dubs in the first film. Butto my surprise, you know, this English voice cast
for the sequel did a pretty decent job with thefilm. I guess the dubbing was done by a company

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called Sentai Filmworks, who does a lot of Englishdubbing on anime projects, like My Hero Academia,
Sword Art Online, Food Wars, just a ton of anime.I've seen some hate online saying Warner Brothers
cheaped out on getting the original voice castback. But honestly, good riddance, because in my

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opinion, the dubbing in this film is way betterthis go around. I mentioned earlier I didn't want
to watch the movie because they didn't have theoriginal Japanese audio. And I was kind of
resigned to watching the film for this review withthe English language dubs. But I also was
surprised with the quality of the voice cast. Ittakes a certain kind of special voice acting to

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sell the kind of melodrama of a lot of animereactions and things like that. And a lot of
standard American voice actors just can't pulloff that kind of drama in a believable way. So you
can't just like hire a celebrity voice actor likeTony Hale or something like that. You got to have a
qualified anime English voice actor to do thisstuff right. Absolutely. Like, I think I could do

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some voice acting not well, but I could do it. Icould absolutely not do anime voice acting
because my voice would crack as soon as I try to getoverly emotional. I'm telling you right now, you
wouldn't be able to do any voice acting. Okay. Wow.I have a podcast, bro. That doesn't mean anything.
Have you listened to this podcast? That's fair. Myvoice sucks. Why are you even listening right now?

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I wonder that every week. Anyway, moving on. In thefirst film, Batman, his allies and his villains
were all transported back in time to feudal Japanwhere Batman, unable to rely on much of his high
tech equipment, had to learn ancient techniquesof the ninja to stop an all out war between his
villains, while also finding a way to returneveryone to the proper time. That film began

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fairly serious in tone, though by the end we werewatching giant mechazoid fortresses battle
monkeys stacked on top of each other in the shape ofBatman. Shit got weird, but I still loved it so much
so that I was convinced that it deserved a five starreview in my initial reaction. You talked me down
from that, Joseph. I think in part because of justhow absurd it became. But in this film, the sequel,

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Yakuza League, they start with the absurdityalready ratcheted to 10. So you don't have that
jarring tonal shift to contend with like you did inthe first film. When you have jetpack wearing
katana wielding Yakuza gangsters raining downfrom the sky within the first 10 minutes of the
movie, there's pretty much nothing you can't getaway with in this film. And though the story gets

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pretty ambitious and the level of absurdity it canget away with, where like even several of the
characters say that the story elements are dumbduring the course of the movie, the film subverts
expectations for Western audiences inparticular in such a way that is not only funny, but
just fun in general. And it captures yourattention in the way good art tends to. Yeah, what I

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really appreciated about this movie was just howself aware it was. You know, the first film did go
off the rails and I did take issue with that. Butthis movie, like you said, starts off the rails,
and it comments on it like it knowingly does so. Butalso it you know, it takes its time to explain the
absurdity behind everything going on for everyweird thing you see. There is a rational

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explanation for it. And I do appreciate that, eventhough it does lead to the film being 90%
exposition. Oh, I know. So so much dialogue in thismovie is them just explaining things, which
surprisingly worked. I don't know how they pulledthat off, but they did somehow. Maybe it had
something to do with the visuals, because thisfilm looks gorgeous. We've seen examples of

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computer generated anime before, like in thefirst Batman Ninja movie, or Batman and Superman
Battle of the Supersons. But this is hands down thebest example to date of that style, partly because
I believe they didn't try to overdo the shading andlighting like the Japanese characters in this
film are fairly flatly colored and you know, areidentifiable by their sketchy contour lines, as

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if to imply they are a sketch or like experimentalresult of Russell Gould playing with reality. The
designs like the first film are admirablycomplex, yet quintessentially Japanese like
everything in the film. Yeah, computer animatedanime is not my favorite thing. It's rarely done

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well in the anime that I've seen, and you know,myself not being an avid anime consumer. I didn't
really like the computer animation that was in thefirst Batman Ninja movie. I thought everybody
walked a little bit too stiff. They look likerobots to me, you know, their faces were soulless
abominations. But here, actually, the filmcompletely reversed my opinion on computer

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generated anime animation, because I thought itwas really well done. The movements looked
believable. The expressions had more life tothem. Everything just looked better, not
counting, you know, the hand drawn interlude thatwas in the first Batman Ninja movie, because that
was beautifully done. Oh yeah, absolutely.Besides that scene, I would definitely say though

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that this film looks better than the first and thestory of this film is better than the first. You
know, we described the first film as beingnarratively simple. And while this film still
follows that style over substance narrativeapproach, this time the story has much more
complexity and is actually quite successful inbuilding an entirely new world with fascinating

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characters whose stories may be glossed over, butare brimming with possibility. Rather than
seeing how familiar characters adapt to a strangenew environment like the first film, here we see
how familiar characters are affected by exposureto a strange new environment from the get go, from
birth, which brings a sense of Eltsworld intrigueto the mix akin to something like Red Sun. Yeah,

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that was really cool. I mean, what I liked probablymore about Batman's story in the first movie was
that he was a fish out of water and he had to becomesomething new. He had to become a ninja and study
the ninja way in order to survive in feudal Japan.And feudal Japan as a setting was just phenomenal.
I liked it more than the setting of modern day Japanbeing taken over by these Yakuza gangs. But I'll

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still say that there was a lot of interest there andthat Batman was still a fish out of water with these
other characters that had changed into theseunique Japanese personas. Yeah, did you notice
the Easter egg around the Yakuza League's names?It was their given names. Yeah, it was the Japanese
pronunciation of their first name. So Arthurbecame Asa, Barry became Barry, Clark becomes

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Koraku, and Jessica becomes Zeshika, so on and soforth. I thought that was kind of cool. I didn't
realize that until I was writing my review. Buteven beyond that, words like Hage-ne, the name of
the Yakuza family that Clark was the leader of,means steel. Really? Yeah. Now, speaking of
Superman, his Japanese counterpart, Koraku, isthe only character in the film who actually gets a

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real character arc. Batman has a mission, Dianahas a code, they grow to appreciate each other's
ways, but beyond that, they're static. Superman,on the other hand, begins the film as an enforcer
for Russell Gull and the leader of the Hagen-Ecrime family who views the world through the lens
of power. There's those who wield it, and there'sthose who are subjugated by it. He compares Yakuza

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to demons and believes they, like all of humanity,are irredeemable without control from a
stronger, more violent, more controlling force.But after battling Batman, who tells him his
Superman wasn't powerful because he dominatedothers, but because he uplifted them and
realizing Ross lied to him about the people ofBatman's world, Koraku starts to question

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everything. His whole identity, which was builton strength, is fractured upon his defeat at the
hands of Batman. And in the end, Koraku doesn'tjust fight for power, he fights to protect others.
He becomes a true Superman, embracing the NinkyoCode and helping save Gotham. Yeah, it was a great
arc. Allegedly, the rest of the Justice Leaguewent through the same arc. It would have been nice

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to actually see that happen, as opposed to justbeing told that it happened. Yeah, that's fair. I
do think Superman is an inspiring enough figure,though, whether he's good or evil, to have changed
the minds of the other League members with aninspiring speech or something like that. Just
something we didn't see. It was cool to see the waythat this movie grafted your standard anime arc

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types onto these Justice League characters. Youhad Wonder Woman with her Lady Snowblood type arc
type. Oh yeah, and Zesha Ko is kind of like a gothicLolita type figure. Yeah, Lolita fashion. And
Barry was this crazy loose cannon who hadboundless energy, just that crazy anime
archetype. Whereas Aquaman was more of yourtraditional gangster, but he was a badass. Yeah,

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their looks totally fit them as well. I reallyliked the look of Aquaman and Wonder Woman. The
only character I really didn't like the look of wasthe Flash. I get that they were trying to go for this
raiding, lightning style design, but I think theyshould have done more with what was under his coat,
because essentially it was just the Flash suit.Yeah, they relied too much on his headgear selling

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his new design. Yeah, exactly. Although I did lovethe fact that his tornadoes were able to transport
people across the dimensional space time rift,because not only does Flash do things like create
whirlwind tornadoes, but he also travels throughtime. So for him to be that medium through which

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they traveled was genius, I thought. For sure.Although he was pretty slow in this movie, yeah. I
don't think so. I thought he was pretty fast. Hecould barely keep up with the Batmobiles that Red
Hood and Red Robin were driving. Well, that'sfair. And actually, you know, they even said
themselves, like if this was the real Flash, wewould not have been able to defeat him. So yeah,
these versions do seem a little bit depowered ingeneral, I would say. Except for Aquaman. Holy

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shit. He was awesome in this movie. They always gotto give Aquaman hydrokinesis when they can't
figure out what to do with him, because otherwisehe wouldn't have had much to do in this movie, I
think. They just need to give him hydrokinesis inthe comics. Like large scale hydrokinesis like
that, not like Mera, but where he's like shiftingtidal waves and stuff. So cool. I agree. What did

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you think of the look of Superman? It caught me offguard. I think I was expecting something a little
bit more traditional. I guess he was wearing arobe, but the sunglasses were a little strange.
That was a unique choice. I actually thought theywere really cool. I'm glad that he kind of stuck
with a traditional Japanese robe type look withlike a coat over his shoulders that kind of acted

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like a cape. But the sunglasses for me just liketipped the whole thing over the edge into Yakuza
badass territory. I thought it evoked Superboy alittle bit. Well, I actually thought it evoked
Eradicator, just like an evil version of Supermanof sorts. That makes sense. I also really liked the
look of Batman in this movie. We didn't really getthe Ninja Batman or Samurai Batman looks that we

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got in the first movie. But here we did get to see thefull-on advanced tech version of Batman with the
holographic displays and transforming vehiclesand armored suits. It's awesome. I think this is my
favorite version of Batman, the high-techversion, I should say, because we saw in the first
movie, you know, he had the Batplane thattransformed into the Batmobile, which

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transformed into the Batbike, which transformedinto a battle suit. Right? That all makes sense to
me. I think the most fascinating version of Batmanis not like the Gothic Neo-Norah version, but the
one that's most like Iron Man, the one with the vastamount of resources. Because it makes more sense
to me that he would operate in that sort of sci-fialmost capacity as a billionaire crime fighter

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who can stand toe-to-toe with the rest of theJustice League. This is, I think, the most capable
version of Batman that we've probably ever seen.Yeah, you might be right. I definitely think this
version makes sense in the context of the otherJustice League characters, because otherwise,
you know, he can't really contribute as much as theothers. It's cool to see things like the Batmobile

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and the Batplane operating as this sort of Voltrontype character. You know, they went with like
Giant Mechaz in the first movie. I'm glad theyavoided that here and decided to go for more of like
a separating battle station type approach for theBat family. That was great. Yeah, Alfred's
animated video that he made of the Bat Phoenix wasone of my favorite things about the movie. Not

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gonna lie. It just evoked old classic animecartoons like Gundam or Voltron. It was awesome.
And there were neat little touches to like the 60stelevision show too. Like in the beginning when
Batman and Robin slid down their pole into theBatplane. I loved that. They need to bring things
like that back into, you know, the modern mythos. Iwant to see like an adaptation of the Bat pole in

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James Gunn's DCU and maybe even introduce it inlike the Batman. Just as an homage, just because
it's like an iconic part of the character thatpeople know and love so much. Absolutely. And it
doesn't even need to be cheesy. Right. Like itwasn't here. Yeah, exactly. Another thing I
really liked about this version of the JusticeLeague were the names and origins of each of them.

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So you have Zeshaqa the Emerald Ray. She was thisgambler who found herself in trouble and while on
the run she stumbled upon the Power Ring. It wasreminiscent almost of like Alan Scott's origin,
which I think worked well for this version of thecharacter. Yeah, I like how a lot of her energy
constructs were like gambling themed. Yeah, itwas either like gambling themed or like teddy

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bears. It was cute. Now Aquaman was Asa the awkwarddragon, which is super cool because dragons of
course are aquatic creatures in easternfolklore. Now he came from a species of aquatic
people living at the bottom of Lake Inokashira,which is a real lake in Tokyo. And his mother, the

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queen, fell in love with a yuck as a gangster. Ithought that was awesome. Yeah, that was a great
play on his standard origin. My favorite use ofAquaman's powers in this movie was when he sent the
sea turtle out to send a message to Wonder Woman.And then like she responded and like the sea turtle
literally like spun away back to the lake. Ithought that was great. It almost reminded me of

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something like out of a Miyazaki film, just howsurreal it was. Yeah, exactly. Of course, Wonder
Woman in this film was Diana the Eagle Goddess. Shewas raised in Yoga Gashima, an island of women in
Lake Inokashira. And she was a descendant of thegods apparently, bestowed with a portion of
Benzaiten's power in order to protect Japan andthe Ninkyo spirit. And Benzaiten is like an

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eastern goddess. Oh, you know the seven drunk godslike that Kung Fu martial art style? Yeah.
Benzaiten is the Japanese name of the girl god.Okay. She's like a warrior. Bodhi, the fleet of
foot was a low level Yakuza thug that was struck bylightning. Well, in a hot spring. That's kind of
funny. So good. And the coolest one I thought,Kuraku, the man of steel, who instead of landing in

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America, landed in Japan and was raised by a Yakuzafamily. Very reminiscent of Red Sun. To touch on
the final character, Russell Ghoul, I am glad thathe was the primary antagonist in this film. I
forgot that he was going to be because I forgot thathe was in the trailers for this movie. With his
resources and his League of Assassins, he'salways kind of been Batman's most formidable foe,

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in my opinion, and even more so in this film. Andthat he has a Yakuza League of Assassins. And I kind
of like the play upon the different Leagueversions. And he's one of Batman's only rogues, I
would say, that like wants to destroy all ofhumanity as opposed to just causing chaos in
Gotham City. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. He's an ecoterrorist, right? So he's always trying to end the

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human race. And this was a pretty wild plan to dojust that, even though I'm left wondering, like,
why he couldn't simply just use the engine that herebuilt to create a world he had always wanted to
see. Like, why not create that instead of create aYakuza world to conquer his native world? That
seems like an extra step that's unnecessary.Well, well, you know, you can only fold a piece of

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paper in half seven times. So maybe a world withouthumans was just too far removed from standard
reality. Interesting. OK. Not sure if I buy it, butit is in fact an explanation. I also liked how they
made it so that like Batman's past time adventuredidn't have cascading ripples through time, like

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what I thought was going to be the case. But, youknow, instead, Ross simply improved upon Gorilla
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Moving on to the story highlights, Bruce Wayne andhis son Damien and Alfred notice something is
amiss with the world when they realize, amongother things, that the islands of Japan and the

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Justice League are missing after their timetraveling adventure to feudal Japan. When they
receive a warning of a Yakuza hurricaneapproaching Gotham City, they suit up as Batman
and Robin to take on the mysterious Japanesemobsters who've fallen from the sky. An
occurrence they learn has been going on for sometime. Surmising that he and his allies must be time

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displaced with counterparts from a differenttimeline, Batman spots an inverted version of
Japan peeking through a fissure in space-time inthe sky above Gotham and travels with Robin in the
Batplane to investigate, leaving Nightwing andRed Robin to handle the remaining Yakuza. Now, I
absolutely loved the James Bond-esque openingcredits scene that also served as a recap to the

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first film in this movie. It was great. Yeah, theywere kind of going for a Adele kind of vibe with the
song. I think didn't quite pull it off. I didn'tlove the song, but I do appreciate the effort they
put into the opening credits for sure. I figuredyou would like that as a James Bond fan. Yeah, I
totally did. Now, recognizing that the fissurehas an energy signature similar to that of the

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Quake engine that sent them through time in thefirst film, Batman flies through it to an inverted
Tokyo where they're immediately attacked byZesuka, the Emerald Ray. That world's version of
the Green Lantern Jessica Cruz and, as of the AquaDragon, a version of Aquaman, both of who work as
enforcers for the Hagenet crime family. Withtheir plane damaged, Batman and Robin are rescued

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by Diana, the Eagle Goddess, a version of WonderWoman who leads the Amazonia Yakuza family and
claims Batman and Robin are under her protectionwhile in Kichijoji, Tokyo. Harley Quinn, as
Harren the Wild Jester, aids Diana and Asa andZesuka leave. Meanwhile, Nightwing, Red Robin,
and Red Hood manage to defeat Barry, the fleet offoot, a version of Flash, who generated a tornado

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that allowed him to travel to Gotham. Now, the waythey defeated Flash was kind of bizarre and that
Red Hood was able to fire off these smellycanisters that reminded him of smells of like meat
and beer and stuff like that and rice. So he just gotlike really hungry because apparently, body is
hungry all the time. Yeah, I didn't love that. Itwas funny. Did you find it kind of convenient that

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Batman and Robin had an ally on the Yakuza side ofthings? Like if Wonder Woman wasn't this like
honorable character, would they have even stood achance, I wonder, in defeating the Yakuza League?
Oh, interesting. Probably, probably. BecauseBatman still had the contingency plans to defeat
each member of the Justice League, so why not useDiana's against her? Although that would have

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eventually required him getting back to hisreality, but I still think he could have done that
without Diana. If anything, all he needed wasJoker's help. Which was bullshit. We will get to
that. Now Diana informs Batman of the Yakuza War,known as Yakuza Geden, that has overtaken Japan,
forcing its citizens to pick family allegiances.With the death of Dayo, the leader of the Dumuzu

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family, a version of Doomsday, at the hands of theHagenae family leader, Kuraku, the Man of Steel,
the Hagenae family is currently the dominant mob,and one that does not subscribe to the honor system
among Yakuza known as the Ninkyo Way, as Diana andher Amazonae family does. The real world, or
Amatsukuni as Japan knows it, appeared in theirsky a month ago, and the Hagenae family wants to

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rule it. While beginning repairs on the Bat Plane,Batman learns that Harin is his world's Harley
Quinn, who came to the inverted Japan just beforehe did along with the Joker. Thanks to Harley,
Diana believes Batman is an Oya-Boon, or leader ofa Bat Cartel. Now I thought it was totally baller
that this version of Superman killed his Doomsdayand not the other way around. Yeah, I thought that

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was a little bullshit. Like, why is Doomsdayleading a family? I feel like the character is not
smart enough to do that, so I thought it was aninteresting choice of character, for sure. Yeah,
a badass choice, like I said. Okay. Hardcore. Nowas Batman attempts to fly back to Gotham, Kuraku
appears and captures the Bat Plane, as the HagenaeOya-Boon, Ras Al Ghul, ordered him to bring Damien

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to him. After flinging Robin toward Ras' YakuzaTower, Kuraku nearly kills Batman until Joker and
Harley Quinn interfere on a makeshift plane.While Harley distracts Kuraku, Joker straps his
high-powered ejector seat to the Bat Plane andshoots him into Gotham, claiming he doesn't want
Kuraku to kill Batman. While Diana rescues Harleyfrom Kuraku, Batman reunites with Nightwing, Red

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Hood, and Red Robin. And you're right, the Jokermoment was bullshit. It was dumb, and even Batman
admitted it. I was also really glad though thatJoker didn't reappear back in the story, because I
guess I was anticipating that, and I thought itwould have been unnecessary. So while I
appreciate that they didn't bring the Joker back,it did leave a bit of a plot hole. Yeah, honestly, I

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thought the Joker was going to return, and Ithought that Batman is going to use the villains
from the first movie to help defeat the YakuzaLeague. I don't know why I got that impression
initially. That would have been cool. Yeah, itdidn't end up happening. It turns out all he needed
was his own Bat Family to take him on. Now Robin istaken before his grandfather, Ras Al Ghul, who

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explains that he's improved upon Gorilla Grodd'stime-traveling Quake engine, creating what he
calls a four-dimensional origami system capableof reshaping space-time itself. Ras reveals that
he used it to create new realities by foldingspace-time like origami to create a new world of
Yakuza assassins under his control, capable ofwiping out humanity on a Metsukuni and allowing

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Robin, his desired successor, to rebuild it to hisliking. Robin refuses and becomes trapped in a
sushi claw machine. So random. Pretty random. Ithought it was funny how he just ordered
California rolls because that was the sushi he wasmost familiar with, and Ras Al Ghul called him out
for that. I thought that was almost kind of aninsult to Damien. I feel like Damien has better

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taste than that. I could be wrong. Well, he'syoung. Who knows? That's fair. Now in the Batcave,
Batman explains that bringing down the YakuzaLeague should be simple as they know their
weaknesses, and thanks to being exposed to aspace-time pulse from the Quake engine in their
prior adventure into the past, they can see andtravel to the inverted Japan through the fissure

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and space-time with whatever tech they possess.Before Batman and his allies prepare for their
trip back to Japan, Alfred shows them a video hemade for them using a new batship known as the Bat
Phoenix that can separate into smaller ships thateach of them can control individually. Meanwhile
in Japan, Ras and Kuraku discuss bringing downDiana and the Amazon family before conquering a

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Metsukuni, which Ras has led Kuraku to believe isfull of Yakuza. While Diana nurses Harley back to
health, she is visited by a giant turtle messengerfrom Asa, challenging her to a duel. After
accepting the challenge, Diana begins to singabout her feelings, karaoke style, awakening
Harley, who is invited to sing but is quicklystopped when she sings horribly. Again, another

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random absurdist moment, but honestly, I waslaughing. I laughed too. It was strange in that a
lot of the story elements to this movie seem to tryto cram as many Japanese customs as possible, kind
of randomly, like the sushi thing, like the clawgame, like this karaoke part. Yeah, I always

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wonder if the Japanese creators of these films isjust trying to expose Western audiences to as many
Japanese things as possible. Yeah, that's what itfelt like. One thing I didn't like about this movie
was how easy it was for Batman to defeat the JusticeLeague. Yeah. Saying to the others that, oh, it's

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going to be easy to bring these guys down, and thenas you watch the film progress, yeah, he was right.
It kind of ruins the whole versus aspect of thismovie to me. Now, granted, the stakes are still
huge because of what happens later on with thepotential destruction of Gotham, but that threat
wasn't because of the Justice League, and Ithought it would be. Yeah, Batman should never say

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that it's going to be easy to take down the JusticeLeague. It should always be difficult. We've seen
him do it before in stories like Tower of Babel,which was adapted into Justice League Doom, but
that felt earned. It's never fun to see Batman gointo, like, God Bode, you know, where he could just
defeat all these other characters. Actually, Imean, it probably is fun to see that. It actually is

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really cool. But yeah, it just, it was differentfrom what I thought it was going to be. That doesn't
mean it was bad, but the title of the film sets up apremise that wasn't as satisfying as maybe it
could have been. Now, Asa and Diana meet on LakeInokishira, where it's revealed that they used to
play together as children. As the two battle,Zeshika intervenes, holding members of the

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Amazon family hostage. Harley joins the fight,battling Zeshika, who is suddenly rammed by the
Bat Phoenix. The ship separates with Nightwingtaking on Zeshika, Batman helping Diana against
Asa, and Red Robin and Red Hood assigned to Rasa'sYakuza Tower, where Kuraku rallies Yakuza troops
to conquer a Masukuni. Nightwing brings downZeshika with the science ninja technique, Decoy

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Body, tricking her into thinking he was inside aSentai-esque suit of armor before shooting her
with a sleeping dirt. Which was bizarre. Like, Idon't know when he switched out of the suit. It
might have been when, like, she caused a wholebunch of smoke to come up. I've seen this film
twice, and that has to be the moment, but still, itwas unexpected. I mean, that Decoy Body was pretty

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down powerful to be just a technological creationof Batman. You know, if he can create drones as
smart and powerful as this, Batman should becreating these guys all the time. Maybe it's a
resources issue. We'll go with that. Now, as Batygenerates a storm to shoot Yakuza into Gotham,
Diana helps Batman bring down Asa with the scienceninja technique, Electrolisis, in which Batman

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trapped him in an electric current underwater,then uses that electricity to create a chemical
reaction that exploded the water around Asa.After Batman and Nightwing explain to Diana their
plan to blow up Rasa's quake engine to dissolve thedimensional fissure joining their worlds, Robin
and Red Hood use the science ninja technique,Tornado Canceller, using their ship to reverse

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the direction of Flash's tornado, then blowing upthe giant Yakuza Gatling cannon. Red Robin
activates the Bat Phoenix's cloaking mode beforehe and Red Hood detach from it and take to the Tokyo
streets, where they're chased by body. Theyeventually lure him into a trap they set up in an
underground parking garage involving atreadmill and a holographic projector before Red

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Hood takes body down using science ninjatechnique, Vending Machine, which he hides in a
holographic vending machine and shoots body inthe head with a sleeping dart when he tries to buy a
drink. Again, they played on his desire for food inorder to defeat him. I know it's really hard to take
down a character like the Flash, but I feel likethey didn't have to go quite so ridiculous with it.

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Well, I think other Flash projects like the Flashmovie established that Barry is always hungry, so
maybe they were just borrowing from that. Whoknows? This was the most bizarre take down, I feel
like. Because as Flash was having troublecatching up with these Bat Phoenix cars, I was
like, what is going on? And then for it to be ahologram, I was like, okay, well, when did that

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happen? Kuraku destroys the parking garage, andthough Red Hood and Red Robin try to blow him up,
Kuraku nearly kills them before he's plowed intoby Batman's tank car. And Diana saves the boys, all
of whom go with Nightwing to Yakuza Tower to findthe Quake engine and Robin, while Batman takes on
Kuraku and robotic armor transformed from histank. As the two fight within a crater in the

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street, Kuraku dismantles Batman's armor,though Batman uses science ninja technique
spectral conversion to depower Superman by usingcrystals within his dismantled armor to filter
the sunlight above them into red solar rays. Whilesuffering a beatdown from Batman, Kuraku learns
that Ross has been lying to him about Amatsukunibeing full of Yakuza and that he's a weak version of

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the Superman that Batman is familiar with. ThoughKuraku manages to disrupt the spectral
conversion filter, Batman knocks him out with aKryptonite knuckle duster before leaving to
Yakuza Tower to go after Ross. This did serve tohighlight how lame Superman's weaknesses are.
What? They're always exploited. It's so easy todefeat Superman if you have the right tool,

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otherwise it's impossible. But we've seen thistime and time again where he's either taken out by
Red Sun radiation or Kryptonite and I'm just overit. I was hoping that they would go a different
route for this film. It did not bother me at all, I'mgoing to be honest. Everything from the battle
between Diana and Asa leading up to this battlebetween Kuraku and Batman was just balls to the

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wall action. I loved these fights. I thought theywere really hyperkinetic and really cool. I
thought it was pretty absurd that Batman'sdismantled armor just managed to create this net
filter of light because it had crystals in it. Butit was also very satisfying to see Batman just beat

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the shit out of this evil version of Superman. Thedialogue was satisfying and the action was cool,
but it was so obvious and therefore there was notension because you knew that of course Batman was
going to pull out Kryptonite. Well, notinitially. I didn't think he was going to at first,
but then once he did, the fireball that was aroundhis hand, I've never seen it depicted that way. The

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design again just kind of I feel like saved it.Yeah, Kryptonite radiation as green flame is
pretty badass. At Yakuza Tower, Robin breaks freefrom his claw machine. Easily, I add, and joins
Diana and Batman in confronting Ross. Rossremoves a space-time converter from his quake
engine, sending its four-dimensional origamisystem out of control and causing the inverted

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Tokyo to breach the dimensional fissure and fallinto a collision course with Gotham. Unable to
return the converter back to the engine as itphases into other dimensions, Batman deduces
that the energy from the space-time pulse theirbodies were exposed to can anchor the engine back
in Tokyo, and his crew works to focus their energyon the machine while Diana prevents Ross from

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interfering. Meanwhile, as Tokyo emerges withAmatsukuni, the Yakuza League members become
disoriented by the awareness of their alternateheroic selves across other realities, and Ross
knocks Diana from the tower. There's a little bitof like flux capacitor mumbo jumbo going on here,
but I didn't mind it as much because conceptuallyit made sense, which I thought was the most

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important thing. Yeah, I can't tell you how long ittook me to sort of write out this plot structure and
just make sense of everything everyone wassaying. It was not easy. But as I was watching the
film for the first time, I wouldn't say thatbothered me because yeah, they do eventually get
around to explaining everything that's going on.Now, as gravity inverts itself around them,

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Batman chases Ross to get the converter. Rossblows up the base of Yakuza Tower, detaching it
from Tokyo so it alone can still fall onto Gotham asa contingency for Batman successfully closing
the fissure. As Ross escapes via airplane and asTokyo debris plummets toward Gotham, Kuraku,
Diana, and the rest of the Yakuza League appear,holding up the tower and protecting Gotham in an

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adoption of the Ninkyo spirit, freeing up Batmanto go after Ross upon the cloaked Bat Phoenix.
After defeating Ross and recapturing theconverter, Batman races back to the tower and with
help from Harley, restores the converter to theengine. As Tokyo begins returning to its own
reality, Batman tells the Yakuza League to returnthe tower to their world and destroy the engine

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there to close the fissure and sever the linkbetween their worlds. Using the Hagoni
technique, rising dragon of valor, the Yakuzaraise the tower and depart Gotham. With the
Justice League and Robin's Japanese hairstyleback, Batman and his allies confirm that their
timeline has been restored. In a mid-creditsscene, Robin rejects the Alfred suggestion of

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wearing a wig. My favorite part about this endscene is that when the Justice League characters
became their composite selves, their reformedversions, and they got their new updated
costumes, the tattoos that were underneath thecostumes glowed. They're Yakuza tattoos. And
they all had this really awesome look because ofthat. Yeah, tattoos are synonymous with Yakuza

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and crime in East Asian culture. I remember when Iwent to Korea, they had to check my entire body for
tattoos when I lived there for a time. So yeah, it'skind of a big deal, maybe not so much anymore, but I
loved that the Justice League had those tattoos.They were pretty sick tattoos too. They were.
Yeah, they were really cool. Now, the end creditsfor this film, they showcased these real like

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paper dioramas of like the different origins ofthe Yakuza League. I didn't realize those were
real when they were showing them throughout themovie. Really? But yeah, someone actually made
those and they're awesome to see on display. Holyshit. You didn't see that in the end credits? The
camera moves around them. Yeah, I thought it wasstill animated. No, it's real. Okay. All right,

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I'll take your word for it. I want them. I would buythose out of my so much merch from this movie. Oh my
gosh. But that brings us to the end of the film. Ireally liked it. I know it's not perfect. I know
it's probably too absurd for a lot of viewers, butbecause it's loaded with absurdist anime fun and
hyperkinetic action. And with the sequelshowcasing gorgeous Japanese inspired designs

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and new takes on fan favorite characters. I thinkthis is an improvement upon the first film, which
we gave three and a half stars. So I'm bumping thisone up to four out of five stars, a fresh rating on
Rotten Tomatoes. I think that's a solid rating. Ithink the key thing that you mentioned here is that
it's fun. It's a fun movie just like the first film.And I don't think you even need to really see the

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first film in order to appreciate the sequel.Though I do think the first film is worth watching
too, because it has a lot more traditional, youknow, feudal Japanese elements. But this one is
worth watching for the cool twist on the JusticeLeague characters. Yeah, that's a great
description of this whole movie, I think it's justcool. Like a lot of Japanese things are. But that

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does it for this review. AJ9K help close this out.That does it for this episode, guys. We want to give

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