November 18, 2024 • 54 mins
Ready to crush your health goals in 2025? Join us on Ever Onward as Kris Gethin shares his UNMATCHED strategies for fitness, biohacking, and living your healthiest life!
In this episode we discover the transformative journey of Kris Gethin, a renowned health guru and former bodybuilder who swapped the adrenaline-fueled world of extreme sports for a life dedicated to health and wellness. Kris’s inspiring story takes us from his roots in Wales, through personal battles with addiction, to finding a purpose in bodybuilding. He shares his passion for helping others achieve both physical and mental transformations and reflects on how a positive mindset and gratitude have shaped his path to success.
Kris also reveals the secrets behind optimizing sleep and morning routines, offering insights into the significance of light management and hydration. He emphasizes the critical role of biohacking practices such as meditation and Brain Tap in regulating circadian rhythms, while the benefits of avoiding caffeine in the afternoon and waking up early are discussed. We delve into how small changes in your daily routine can lead to improved health and increased productivity, from wearing blue light blocking glasses to starting your day with hydrogen-rich water.
The episode ventures into innovative nutrition and supplementation strategies, discussing the importance of a balanced diet rich in colorful vegetables and high-quality proteins. Kris introduces groundbreaking supplements like Longevity EAAs and CreGAAtine, which blend health span with sports performance to enhance cognitive and muscle health. Toward the end of the episode, we explore cutting-edge healing techniques such as stem cell therapy and hyperbaric oxygen therapy, which offer promising avenues for rejuvenation and recovery. Kris’s journey provides not just a blueprint for health optimization but an invitation to a more balanced, fulfilling life.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Today on the Ever Onward podcast, we have a
special guest, chris Gethin, wholives here in Boise, but he is
an international star.
He is on podcasts everywhere.
He is a guru on all thingshealth.
Chris is originally from Wales,spends most of his time here in
the United States but doestravel internationally almost
every month.
He is a former bodybuilder andthen founded his own supplement
(00:25):
company, along with othercompanies, gyms and personal
training companies.
We are very excited to have himon today.
We're going to talk all thingshealth and wellness and
supplements.
I hope you enjoy Chris Gethin.
Chris, thank you for coming on.
(00:49):
I'm really excited.
Matty's told me about you for awhile.
He's like you've got to getChris on.
You've got to talk to this guy.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Okay, well, thank you , buddy, got you to thank.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Well, we appreciate it, because I know you do a lot
of this and you're travelinginternationally.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, but this is what I do.
You know, this is the part ofmy job that I really enjoy, is
where I can be present and wecan discuss things that could
potentially help some listenerone listener, so of course, I'm
all down for it.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I love that.
You've got such an incrediblebackground that this could go a
lot of different places.
So what I was going to startwith is what do you like?
You've got this and we'll do aformal intro before this thing
started, but what do you enjoymost about your life right now
and making a difference in theworld?
Because it seems like that'svery authentically what you're
(01:41):
up to right.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah.
So there's a few things.
Some of it is going to beselfless and others will be
selfish.
But the one thing that I reallydo love about my job and the
opportunities that I've had isto help people transform, and
usually we will see atransformation, a before and
after picture, but that's justsurface level of what that
(02:03):
person actually experiences.
Sometimes they influence theirloved ones, their family members
.
Sometimes you know they weresuicidal or they dealt with PTSD
, alcohol problems, and seeingthat change within them is
what's really really satisfyingto me.
You know, getting that feedback, the testimonial, that's what I
love.
(02:24):
The other part, what I reallyenjoy, is just being able to
work from home.
You know there's my own hoursto a certain degree but, as you
know, if you're a business owneror an entrepreneur, it's
difficult to actually take timeoff.
So you know we may go toKetchum this weekend.
Well, we are going to KetchumFriday, Saturday and Sunday.
I'll be a beautiful littlebreak, but to ensure that I'm
(02:46):
able to relax and chill out thatI'll have to work for a couple
of hours in the morning.
But that's okay, that's a verysmall sacrifice to make.
Every time I get on anotherflight I'm like okay, you have
to remind yourself that personwho you were 20, 25 years ago
only would have dreamed of this.
So don't complain about it.
So I'm very careful not to moanand whinge, because I know
(03:07):
there's a lot of people outthere that would love that
opportunity, and I was thatperson.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
And it is about changing people's lives.
I mean, I love how you've beenable to scale that and talk a
little bit about that, becauseyour background and how you
started, and then talk aboutthat 25 year ago guy, what you
were thinking life would be likeand how you've morphed into
what it's become, I mean it'spretty incredible, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So I got into the fitness industry from extreme
sports.
I raced motocross for manyyears, downhill mountain biking,
just dealt with a lot ofinjuries and through rehab I was
able to alleviate myself ofsome of the pain that I was
dealing with.
I'd completely lost my identitybecause from the age of six I
was racing and that was myidentity.
That's the one thing that gaveme thrill, gave me purpose, a
(03:56):
sense of belonging, and when Ilost all that, it felt like I
lost everything.
And uh, you know, I turned toalcohol and drugs for about five
years there, like pretty heavy.
And where'd you grow up?
In Wales, in Wales.
So I've spent exactly half of mylife overseas from the age of
25.
And my first 25 years was inWales.
(04:19):
You know, I grew up on a farmand you know, after I left I
just went from city to city citythis is the closest to country
for me now um, but when Istarted alleviating myself of
the pain that I was dealing withfrom motocross physically, I
was alleviated of the mentalissues that I was dealing with
(04:39):
at that time, at that time aswell, and I just felt that I had
a sense of purpose justslightly again.
So that fed me a little bitmore and I'm very goal
orientated.
So I thought you know what?
I don't know anything aboutthis bodybuilding stuff.
I've read a lot about it inmagazines because that was like
my comic book.
I wasn't really interested incomic books, but I used to love
(05:00):
looking at bodybuildingmagazines way before I even got
into bodybuilding.
So when I fixated myself onthis I decided, okay, I'm going
to look to see if there's abodybuilding show here in Wales.
And then I found one.
So it was one and a half yearsafter I picked up a weight for
the first time.
I competed in my first show,not knowing that there was
(05:23):
natural and enhanced shows.
I had no idea.
So I went and competed in anenhanced show, not knowing that
there was natural and enhancedshows.
I had no idea.
So I went and competed in anenhanced show, but completely
natural.
I was definitely the smallestby far but I got absolutely
shredded and I managed to getsecond place.
So that's when the bug reallyreally hit me and knowing how it
helped me when you fast forwarda little bit, you know I worked
(05:46):
on cruise liners as a personaltrainer, moved to Australia, and
it was when I was in Australiaand I had my own gym.
That's when I realized OK, Ihave got to tell other people
about this.
This is how it's changed me.
Life would have been a whiteknuckle ride.
I could have been locked up,but I'm not, because I found
this.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I'm going to ask you a question.
I don't know the answer to this, but back when you go in for
motocross and then before youfound fitness as your therapy,
essentially drug addiction yeah,Was that any opiate related
from your injuries?
No, nothing whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Was that any opiate related from your injuries?
No, nothing whatsoever.
No, pharmaceuticals aren'treally heavily influenced in the
UK, not in Wales anyway.
I remember when my grandfatherpassed away a couple of years
ago at 93 years old.
They'd asked him just beforehave you taken antibiotics?
And he's like what's anantibiotic?
We just don't do that stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
So it's not like over here, right, far from it.
Far from it.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
This was this was just other drug use, but not
related injuries.
I just no, no, no, it was justbecause I'd lost my way and now
I was seeking, uh, a thrill.
Still, I was still thrill, uh,seeking adrenaline, and I was
getting that from drugs, yeah,you know, and, um, I, I, I
didn't feel completely at homewith it because on a Monday I'd
be like there's no way I'm doingthat again, this is the time,
(07:11):
nope.
And then come Thursday orFriday, get a couple of phone
calls and I'm influenced.
I was very, very easilyinfluenced.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
How do you teach people how to train?
I mean you were definitelygoal-oriented, focused.
I mean, a year and a half intoit, you're in your first
competition.
How do you encourage others tofind passion like that?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
It all depends on the individual.
So if that person is a motheror father, then that's great,
because then they have some formof accountability and
responsibility to take care ofthemselves.
Because, as we know, childrenlearn by observation.
Whatever they observe is whatthey're probably going to mimic.
So I make it very important tothem that they need to
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prioritize their health for thehealth of their family.
But for other people, like Isaid, it could be like some
mental issue.
For other people, like I said,it could be like some you know,
mental issue.
You know they're dealing withsome sort of uh, mental
irregularities and you knowworking out will help release
good, feel good hormones, yourdopamine, and help you sleep
better.
And then, obviously, if you'restarting to live a healthier
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lifestyle and you're not onlyfeeding what people think is
just your body through food, youfeed your brain through food.
So you know we get thesechemical reactions every time we
eat something that'spro-inflammatory, that can lead
to a chemical reaction in thebrain and a lot of people just
don't feel good.
They're dealing with brain fog.
They don't have energy.
(08:38):
As soon as they start eatingbetter, they start feeding the
brain, the brain is functioningas it should and then the blood
flow from working out or doingcardio in the morning.
That will enhance the bloodflow to your brain so you can
think better.
Like when I went to school, Ifailed everything.
I did not like school, I hatedevery minute of it and I felt
(08:58):
very, very frustrated because Icouldn't retain any of the
content.
But then, when I got into thebodybuilding I later went to
college for three years to studyinternational health and sports
therapy I realized, you knowthat, the power of really honing
in on that nutrition, because Ifelt it, and then, while I was
(09:19):
at college, I was able to retainall the content I passed,
easily, you know, and that'swhen it made me realize okay,
well, this is something thatinterests me Number one.
Number two I'm actually feedingmy brain with the fuel that it
requires, cause when I wasracing motocross and downhill
mountain biking, there wasn'treally any information about
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nutrition and I was just tryingto get the calories in.
I was burning through so manycalories, so I was eating a lot
of junk.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Um, talk, talk about nutrition.
I have a lot of things I wantto get into with you.
Yeah, for sure.
But uh, you're, you're,probably.
I can't wait to hear youranswers to a lot of this.
But um for, uh, we have a lotof business people that listen
to this.
Business leaders that are, youknow, you know you balance
stress and life and bad food andfog.
(10:06):
You brought it up already, Ithink just the American diet and
just kind of what processedfoods and what we do, and then
you have kind of just you'rejust getting by right, so you're
just taking in calories and notmaking good choices, probably
don't have time to exercise, soyou get into this metabolic you
know situation where it's justnot good and then it goes into
(10:29):
sleep and I don't, you know, soyou're in this negative cycle.
When you're getting people outof this cycle, talk about the
importance of nutrition andexercise, what do you?
What do you do?
First, do you do it alltogether?
How do you?
How do you?
How do you?
What do you?
Noticed as the first thing thatmakes a difference in people to
really cause it's almost likecoming out of fog when you start
eating well and you like go, ohI, I feel better.
(10:51):
Well then I'm more likely towork out, then I'm more like you
.
You kind of get them spinningin the right direction.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, so the the first thing that I usually do
because, especially in this dayand age, like my answer is
different today than what itwould have been 10, 15 years ago
is sleep, Because that is thething that you know,
entrepreneurs, business owners,kind of put to the side
Sleeping's for wimps.
I'll do that when I'm dead, andyou know.
And then they made baddecisions.
(11:18):
Usually because the brain isfatigued, they start reaching
for food.
That is not good for thembecause they just want to feel
better, because they're so tired.
And you're not going to makethe right decisions at those
times when you're fatigued andyou're probably not going to get
up and do your cardio or go tothe gym because of the source.
So I always tell people look atthe source.
(11:38):
I will.
If they do wear like a whoop oran aura ring or anything like
that, I'll check their scoresand get them to utilize that as
their accountability to improvethis, and then I will give them
the information on nutrition andhydration workout.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Can we stay on sleep for a minute?
I'd love to, because I want toget your recommendations.
Lots of devices out there rightnow.
What's your recommendation andwhy?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
So I like the aura ring because you can switch that
off Bluetooth so it can trackthroughout the night.
You know, when you've got theApple Watches and the whoops and
whatnot, it does have to stayon Bluetooth the entire time.
I don't like that.
I try to keep as much radiationout of the bedroom as possible,
you know, and make sure that nophone is near, and I'll always
(12:22):
ask clients to bookend their dayfor an hour before bed and an
hour after waking so they're notreactory all the time.
And the more that they releasedopamine throughout the day
trigger, trigger, trigger thebody will expect that during the
night as well.
So a lot of these people wakeup in the night, like constantly
.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
When do you stop caffeine in relation to the
night because it's got a longhalf-life yes, for some people.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Some people are slow caffeine metabolizers, other
people are very, very fast um,remind me to get into this.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Do you recommend doing the metabolism tests and
knowing what kind of uhmetabolizer you are?
Do you do that with all your?
With caffeine, you mean withjust just the general, like
there's the test you can takethat says hey, this is how my
liver functions and how Imetabolize.
Do you do that up front witheverybody?
I'll do blood reports.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I'll do blood tests yeah, blood test dna and we'll
do like a glycan age, which is abiological age test to see what
age they are biologically okayso then then then you kind of
know how do I metabolize, butfor but.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
But in general you stop caffeine because you have
this transition period beforemelatonin hits in.
Right, yeah, dopamine going,you got, if you any supplements
you took during the day withwith uh, caffeine or a stimulant
, and then you got this kind ofwind down period.
How important is light duringthat yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
So number one with the caffeine.
I usually don't allow people toconsume that in the afternoon.
Okay, morning, fine, try not todo it first thing in the
morning because your cortisol isat its highest peak anyway.
You don't want to raise it evenmore.
I don't do caffeine.
I drink decaf coffee like Idon't drink.
There's no caffeine in thisenergy drink.
My supplements don't havecaffeine because it raises
(13:54):
cortisol and can have a diureticeffect and it can have a long
half-life, yeah, in it.
So you know, that's a, that'sone, that's one thing.
When it comes to yeah, I willalways wear blue light blocking
glasses about an hour before bedif I'm watching TV or something
like that, because I don't wantthat to penetrate my retina to
say, okay, we're going torelease dopamine because we're
(14:17):
wide awake and it's daylight, orcortisol because you cannot
release your serotonin,melatonatonin, oxytocin at that
time sufficiently, so that'salways a good hour to two hours
before bed as well.
Upstairs in my bedroom it lookslike a brothel anyway, because
I've got the red lampseverywhere, the non-flicker red
lamp again, because I don't wantit to stimulate me if I wake up
(14:39):
to go to a pee or anything likethat.
I've just got the, the soft redlamps.
So light is very important,extremely important, yeah,
especially for me, because Itravel so much so I'm constantly
flying into different timezones.
I don't have time to have jetlag because usually I'll land
somewhere and the next day I'vegot a talk to do, okay.
So I need to be on point.
So I'll make sure that I'mwearing the blue light blocking
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glasses, dependent on the timezone i'm'm going to.
So if it's nighttime there, I'mwearing the glasses.
I'm not eating.
I'm fasting during that time tohelp me regulate to the new
time zone that I'm going into.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Temperature Any advice on temperature during the
night?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
It's going to be different for different people,
like, for instance, mostly womenlike to have it warmer, guys
maybe 65, 66 degrees, but mywife cannot sleep in anything
less than like 68 at theabsolute max.
That's stretching it.
So I have something called achili pad.
So my side is cold, her side iswarm, warm, so that really
(15:43):
helps regulate.
Making sure got blackout blindsas well.
Uh, we have a weighted blanket.
That helps, because I thinkthat sends you back maybe to
your childhood, where you feelnurtured and having that weight
really does help for some peopledefinitely helps with me.
Um, yeah, and making sure thatyou've obviously got a very,
very, very good mattress.
(16:03):
A lot of people will skimp onthat.
Knowing, knowing that you spendnearly half your life in bed,
you should have a very, verygood mattress.
So sleep is foundational beforeyou start anything else Of all
the biohacks that I've done overthe years that helped me is
going to be sleep.
Okay, yeah, you can buy all thetechnology you know the
(16:24):
hyperbaric oxygen, the redlights and all that sort of
stuff and that's where a lot ofpeople, unfortunately, put value
.
They don't put any value intheir free stuff, like the
meditation or the sleep, etcetera.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Okay, right, I love it.
Okay, so then you're startingyour day.
Yeah, Take us through theperfect day.
Kind of mixing in what wouldyou recommend to anyone
listening today?
Kind of the key elements aftersleep.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Okay, well, usually, like I said, I go to bed pretty
early, like 7.30 in the evening,like that early, so I'm not the
most sociable person to ask outand whatnot.
I will break that every now andagain, but I go to bed early,
so I wake up early, usuallybetween 4 and 5 am.
I will break that every now andagain, but I go to bed early,
so I wake up early.
Usually between 4 and 5 am Iwill wake up.
But when I go to bed, just onething I want to make note of is
(17:11):
I read for about 45 to 60minutes because that is
something like a James Pattersonnovel, ian Rankin, just to
escape all the deadlines, allthe calls, all the meetings that
I've had throughout the day andall the things I've got to do
the next day.
So it helps shut that off so Ican just lose myself in an
alternative reality.
So that helps.
(17:31):
And then I usually wake up atthat time and I'll hydrate
myself, I'll drink somehydrogen-rich water and usually
straight after that I'm gettinginto the sauna or the ice bath.
I try not to pack all my kindof biohacks in the morning
because I found myself gettingstressed that I couldn't fit
them all in.
It was kind of counterintuitive.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Before you move on, hydration is the key, Because
you're dehydrating over thenight, right, and then usually
that first thing just gettinghydration back up where it needs
is a critical thing that a lotof people just don't do.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, it's even worse in other countries, like in
Europe, that I find, because noone will come out and ask you
for water in a restaurant.
They'll look at you like ifyou're from another planet when
you ask for it.
But as a whole, becauseespecially in the US, we've
become such a caffeine cultureand it does act like a diuretic
(18:28):
that dehydrates us too.
But during the night our brainloses about 40% of its hydration
.
It shrinks, really, reallyshrinks throughout the night,
about 40%.
So it's essential, as soon aswe wake up, to have that
cognitive function is to hydrateas much as possible.
But it isn't just the volume ofthe fluid.
(18:48):
You have to look at the qualityof the fluid as well, so making
sure you've got electrolytes init.
So if you do have a home watersystem, it could be a reverse
osmosis, so it completely cleansthe water, but then a
remineralizer, so you'remineralizing the water as well
and getting electrolyte function, magnesium, uh, throughout the
day.
Any comments on quantity?
(19:08):
a typical adult how much theyshould drink everyone's going to
be different when it comes downto how much they're working out
, how much they're perspiringand where they live.
If it's a humid, yeah, humid,but it could be a gallon, it
could be three quarters of agallon, could be half a gallon.
If it's a smaller person, okay,but, but a significant amount,
yeah, significant yeah I meanyou just went from quarter
gallon.
I mean like yeah, so what Iencourage people to do as well
(19:32):
is add some electrolytes thatare flavored naturally, flavored
naturally sweetened.
You don't want all thesucralose recommendation on that
.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Well, I'm gonna give you my brand.
I know that's where I'm goingyeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Well, it's ElectraShred, but the reason.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
We're going to start pulling this up.
If that's okay, chris, for allthose watching on YouTube, we're
going to start pulling this up.
So your website is Unmatched.
Unmatched, we're going to getinto this, but you've got your
own line of really greatproducts, chris.
That's fantastic.
Thank you On unmatched.
So here you go.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Electroshed, electroshed, yeah, so you have
electrolytes in there.
You also have a spectra blendof, like fruits and vegetables,
a serving of fruits andvegetables in there.
So you have an antioxidantthroughout the day, because we
deal with a lot of free radicaldamage, whether it be in air
conditioning, pollutants,whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
So free radicals.
Let's just define that foreveryone listening.
So free radicals are are.
We all have chemicals in ourbody.
These free radicals areprecursors to cancers.
They're cleaned up all the timeby our bodies, by our lymph
system, by our spleen, byeverything else.
But if your immune system isnot strong, if you're not doing
the right stuff, these freeradicals can cause all sorts of
take over.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, autoimmune diseases, etc.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah so, so big big thing and and and it's been
shown that if you do the rightkind of pre-treatment for that
you can reduce those levels downand so that you're you know
it's a big deal right?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
yeah, for sure.
That's why it's very importantto have, you know, your fruits,
your vegetables, yourantioxidants.
Now you see people, you knowconsuming glutathione yeah, more
than vitamin c, because that'sa master antioxidant.
You can have hydrogen richwater, you can have carbon c60
all these really, really strong,potent antioxidants.
And I take them all because Iknow I go through a lot of free
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radical damage through workingout and training and traveling
as well, so I always stay on topof that and so a good way to do
it is morning with the water,putting this in.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, get you, get you kind of that.
That's like the starting theperfect day, right?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
yeah, because like if you're having too much fluid,
by itself it can dilute you ofthe essential minerals that are
found in the body, so it canflush them out.
So you've got to make sure thatyou replenish, okay, great okay
, keep going.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I love this man.
Okay, I'm already feelinghealthier but I was.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah, the fluid is the number one thing a lot of
people deal with, like headaches.
You know they're fatigued, theydon't have the energy and a lot
of it isn't because of maybethey didn't eat well the day
before, it's because they'relacking in hydration.
You know, when I have myclients to write down, you know
what their sprint was, how muchweight they pushed on a certain
exercise or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
And they have to tell me their hydration every day.
If the hydration is down,usually the day before, the day
after, their performance is down, I love it.
I love it.
Okay, so we just did hydration,um, any any any other morning.
You mentioned meditation.
I want to hit kind of, if you,if you had to do your perfect
morning, what does that kind ofstarting the day you've, you've
got up, and then talk aboutlight in the morning and
hydration, and then we hithydration and then what's next?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
yeah, so, um, I don't mind light in the morning as
long as it's non-flicker,because that's going to raise my
cortisol a little high.
So I use a biohack for that,which is, um, basically a
glasses that you wear and theyhave a light below so you can
still see what you're doing, butit's a non-flicker blue and
green light to help set yourcircadian rhythm for the night.
(22:54):
Usually, because I do so much,I like to stack my biohacks.
So if I'm in the sauna, that'swhen I'm usually stretching or
meditating.
If not, I've got another devicethat helps me get into a
meditative state moreefficiently.
And you know, it's likelistening on, you know on an app
, uh, that has like binauralbeats.
(23:16):
It's a guided meditation andit's also light therapy as well,
through the ear canals and theeyes.
It's it's called a brain tapand I spoke to dr Patrick Porter
, who's the inventor of that,and it's absolutely fascinating
how it works.
And I've gone away and done10-day vipassanas, you know,
silent retreats.
I find this is the easiest wayfor me to fall into a meditation
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, because I'm going to givemyself 15 to 20 minutes to
meditate.
That puts me in, really, reallyquick.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Can we look this up, Matthew, just to make sure.
Brain tap.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Brain tap puts me in really, really quick.
Can we look this up, matthew,just to make sure, and maybe we
can put the brain tap, brain tap, yeah, it's a fascinating
device.
Now some people are okay to bein a room, like I know a couple
of people here in boise, andthey're phenomenal meditation
practitioners and they can getstraight into that zone without
guidance.
You know, they're just in it.
I'm not one of those guys.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I'm not one of those people as well there was a time
I I had a heart problem and Ihad uh open heart surgery and my
physician, who was a goodfriend, she's like, you've got
to start meditating you got yougot it.
You just stress is the biggestkiller and I'm going to teach
you how to do it.
So I said, I said and I'vetried, I can't.
So she came to my office liketwo times.
And it's a great story becauseshe comes in the middle of the
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day first of all, like I'msitting there, she's like, hey,
we're gonna practice right.
And after two times she's likeI'm giving up on you.
So that was kind of like theythink.
So I'm very interested in thisbecause this might be for you.
So so here's the device think,sleep and perform better brain
tap yeah, wow.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
So, like I said, it works with various sounds.
So they were.
It's kind of like aquadraphonic sound.
Well, it goes from oneheadphone to another.
So, dr Patrick Porter, if he isactually doing the meditation
because there's probably about500 of them on there they will
start talking in one ear canal.
And then, just before it startsshutting off here, it will start
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in this one, so it's always acrossover.
I find it fascinating how thatworks, because you are able to
listen, to do two differenttypes of instruction at the same
time.
How it works, yeah, and, like Isaid, the light therapy shines
into your eyes as well, along incoordination with the light
therapy in the ear canals.
That goes with a specific beat,the b binaural beat, and the
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wavelength of sound and theguided meditation.
It seems to work.
I used it for the first timejust before I had to do a talk
at the Health OptimizationSummit in UK and I'm in the
middle of an expo and I justlost myself, all sense of
reality and I felt so refreshed.
They say a deep meditation,like like 20 minutes, can be
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like two hours of sleep orsomething like that.
Don't quote me and I honestlyfeel that way.
You know I never have energyissues.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I love it okay well, hey we're, we're already
clipping along here and andwe're feeling better already.
So you said cold and light, sotalk to to me about sauna and
cold plungers.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah.
So it's been shown in studiesthat you can decrease your
all-cause mortality by about 50%.
Some say 43%, but you knowaround 43, 50%, let's call it
that if you're in a sauna fivedays a week for at least 20
minutes, okay, and you know thatmeans that you know your
chances of dying is decreasedthat much.
You know.
They've done a lot of thesestudies in Finland.
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We're in the UK after work theyjust drink alcohol.
You know very different.
So that helps your body produceheat shock proteins, which helps
repair damaged DNA, foldedproteins etc.
So it helps with your longevityand your health span in a very
big way and, of course, yourdetoxification at the same time,
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because we have a lot of heavymetals in our food supply, in
pollutants, so you're able tokind of bind and collate some of
these heavy metals when you'rein a sauna I always encourage
people to use a binder thatcould be activated charcoal,
that's a little bit harsh andcan collate some of your
minerals.
But I usually do chlorella,chlorella.
Take that about 30 minutesbefore a sauna and help release
(27:16):
a lot of the toxins that ourbody… and then do you have a?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
protocol with sauna and cold plunge together If I
have time, if you have time.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
So if I have time, I do the sauna first, but I'll
always finish with cold.
Okay, so if I have time, I dothe sauna first, but I'll always
finish with cold, Always finishwith cold.
So I've got an ice bath at home.
That's cold 24-7.
It also has hydrogen.
It filters hydrogen through itand it's grounded and I usually
spend like 25, 30 minutes in asauna.
I did 30 minutes this morningin a sauna and I spent about
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three minutes in the ice bathand at the moment it's cold.
It's cold, it is cold.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Roughly what temperature?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
32.
Wow, yeah, it's super cold it'ssuper cold.
Yeah, there's a phenomenal guycalled Ice Plunge Cam.
You should look him up.
He's here locally.
I can make that introduction.
He's a fascinating guy.
Ice Plunge Cam.
His name's Cam.
Ice Ice Plunge Cam.
His name's Cam.
Ice Plunge Cam.
Yeah, yeah, cameron, and therehe is.
There he is, well, he's onInstagram.
(28:10):
I haven't seen him on YouTube,but anyway, he travels around
the world and he does these icebaths and he's in rivers
everywhere.
He got in my ice bath and hesuffered, he suffered.
I was thinking, well, if hethinks it's cold, it must be
super cold.
Because I think when you're inthe water, you build a thermic
layer, yes, where you know um,on like the front of the body,
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the back, you know, wherever thewater isn't always filtering,
so you have that thermic barrierwhere you don't necessarily
have that in the ice bath,because I've got a hose in there
that's pumping water too thatsounds cold yeah, it's nasty.
It's nasty, but this is why Ireally like it and it isn't
because, oh, it knocks outinflammation, it helps with
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joints and aches and pains, itgives me so much mental
stability and it makes meresilient, makes me harder to
kill, because there's not onesingle morning I want to get in
there never.
But of course we have to getused to doing things that we
don't want to do, especially onthe mornings that we don't want
to do them, so it can have atranscendence effect in other
areas of our life isn't the datalike the clearly you can feel
(29:16):
better from inflammation andother stuff, because that's been
done for a long time, but themental and brain changes that
happen with this are.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
We're just starting to plumb the depths of just how
good it is for us.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, that's the number one priority for me yeah.
Helps tone the vagal nerve, andthat vagal nerve that takes you
into that fight or flightresponse gets toned.
So you have more mentalstability throughout the day.
And sometimes I'll wear a 24hour blood glucose monitor and
what I notice is, if I do theice bath in the morning for a
few minutes, my blood sugarlevels are so much more
(29:48):
stabilized as well.
So mental stability and bloodglucose stability Okay.
So there's a lot of benefits.
Exercise yeah, exercise, soexercise.
I do encourage it on a dailybasis, dependence on that
person's lifestyle.
If it's very stressed, they'relacking in sleep, they've got a
lot going on, then maybe I'llgive them an entire day off, you
(30:10):
know, just to fully rechargeand recover.
But cardio is usually, you know, five days a week and some form
of weight training, dependenton the individual, three to five
times a week, 45 minutes asession.
It doesn't have to be for hourslike a lot of people spend in
the gym.
It has to be quality overquantity.
You go in there just like it'sthe office, no distraction, get
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it done and get out.
But I think it's very importantthat people prioritize the most
important muscle, which is, likeyou said, the heart, and we
look in the mirror, we justthink, okay, I want the abs that
this person on Instagram has, Iwant the pecs, the delts, not
knowing that the absolute healthcomes from the cardiovascular
function.
(30:51):
So make sure that you're doingI don't know, it could be
running, it could be cycling, itcould be swimming Just scratch
that itch on a daily basis.
We're not supposed to be sat onour asses all day.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
How many minutes?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Cardio 20?
, 20?
.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yeah, 20 minutes cardio 20, 20.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Yeah, 20 minutes.
That's absolutely fine.
You know it could be hit work,it could be.
If it's tabata, it could be aslow as, like, eight minutes.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
If it's hit work, could be as low as 15 minutes so
you really want to get, get,get your heart going and
recovery and back and forth,okay, yeah and it actually helps
you recover from your workoutsas well.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
The better blood flow that you get from the
cardiovascular exercise, thebetter it will transfer.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Your body will transport nutrients and oxygen
rich blood to those muscles tohelp recovery um, diet, what's
your like for your clients thatyou talk to and say, hey, sleep,
foundational.
There's all these life hacksthat you, you can and can't do.
Hydration in the morning um,we've talked about cold and
(31:47):
sauna Diet.
What are your recommendations,and I can't wait to hear this.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, so of course, there's a lot of fads that are
out there and some of them havemerits.
You know it could be like thecarnivore diet, keto, paleo, etc
.
I think the diet that has themost variety of healthy single
ingredient foods is the way togo.
You know, making sure thatyou've got, like the rainbow on
your plate, different colors ofvegetables, making sure that
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you've got healthy fats in thereit could be olive oil.
You know, staying away fromrefined vegetable oils.
It could be like nuts, seeds,fish, et cetera.
You know, making sure thatyou're having the first class
proteins and single formingredients of your vegetables
and complex carbohydrates.
You know potatoes, rice, etc.
(32:32):
The one big thing so you know,making sure that you have
variety is staying away fromprocessed foods.
But whenever you can, if youcan afford it, grass-fed, humane
, raised, well-caught, organicis the way to go, because the
transition that I made in 2014,going from mass-produced food
because I was like I just wantto get the meals in I didn't
(32:55):
really know much about thesourcing of the food back then.
As soon as I transitioned overto grass-fed, well-caught, etc.
Within about a month I wasreduced of all inflammation in
my joints that I thought wasjust a byproduct of working out.
I just thought okay, this is it.
This is why I'm sore.
It's fine, it's part of thesacrifice that I'm going to make
(33:17):
, but I was eliminated of all ofthat discomfort within about a
month is there any truth tolectins and their inflammatory?
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Those are like found in beans and some of those
things.
If you look at lectin richfoods, you stay away from those.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
No no, because, like I think, you know these plant
defense mechanisms such aslectin.
I think that, of course, thatcauses an inflammatory response
in your gut and it creates amore diverse microbiome to deal
with that, but you have toconsume it in order to create
that diversity.
A lot of people stay away fromit, so now they don't have as
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much diversity and are going tobecome more sensitive to it.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
So clean like non-processed.
Non-processed yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
If you can't pronounce the ingredient, your
body's probably not going torecognize it either.
I love that.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I love that.
What supplements should take anaverage 30, 40-year-old person
working busy family?
What are your kind ofcan't-miss supplements you would
do every day?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Sure Again, I usually get people to do blood work
because I like to see theirdeficiencies and I don't like to
guess, I like to test.
Because I like to see theirdeficiencies and I don't like to
guess, I like to test.
But the usual is a lot of usspend time indoors at this time
of the year that we're goinginto winter now, so people
aren't getting as much vitamin D.
And vitamin D isn't a vitamin,it's a hormone.
(34:40):
It actually helps regulate yourhormones.
It's a precursor totestosterone.
So vitamin D with K2 to helpwith the absorption, that could
be as high as 10 000 for a lotof people.
I had my mother on it for 20 20000 iu for a while because she
had a major deficiency, but now,once it was stabilized, we're
able to bring that down.
(35:00):
The other thing is, uh, omega-3oils, you know, help with brain
function, help with testosteroneas well, help with joint
lubrication, so it helps withtestosterone as well.
Help with joint lubrication.
So it helps with synovial fluidto help lubricate those joints.
So fish oil is always at thetop of that list and then I
usually look at okay, if thatindividual that I'm working with
is eating now five to six mealsand it's always it's probably
(35:24):
inconvenient because they'reworking out.
Then it could be a proteinshake in there as well to fill
in those gaps, if needed.
Of course I always prioritizefood first, but if it means that
food is going to be aninconvenience, let's quash that
inconvenience with a shake.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Do you have a recommended type A?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
grass-fed whey isolate.
Grass-fed whey isolate yeah, soyou need to stay away from
foods that could be possiblypro-inflammatory.
So it's the same with the wheyisolate.
It shouldn't come from cowsthat have been filled with
antibiotics and fed onglyphosate et cetera.
And if you have the grass-fed,try to ensure again that it
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doesn't have any artificialsugars, any artificial
sweeteners in there.
It should be a very, very cleanproduct, and going for an
isolate means that it's probablylactose-free as well.
Magnesium yeah, magnesium is agood one.
Yeah, I didn't mention that one.
Yeah, about 60% of Americans Ithink 63% are deficient in
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magnesium, so it is an essentialsupplement for most as well.
So I supplement with magnesium.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
And isn't there one variant that's the best?
Speaker 2 (36:37):
It all depends on the goal.
Specifically, I take all seven.
I take all seven.
I have a supplement that andit's not my own supplement, but
I have a supplement that I takefrom a company called
BiOptimizers and they have allseven types of magnesium within
their caps.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Yeah, so it's a good fail-safe.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Wow, I guess that does Multivitamin.
No, do you think most peopleneed a multivitamin it?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
all depends Some people.
For me, for instance, I'm not ahuge veggie eater I wish I was
so I will generally take amultivitamin and sometimes a
green powder just to helpfulfill that.
But I would suggest people justeat all their fruits and
vegetables.
You know fruits I'm good.
It's the vegetables because Ieat so much.
(37:23):
I don't have room for thevegetables Once I've eaten my
protein and my carbohydrates.
I'm like I don't really roomfor the vegetables Once I've
eaten my protein and mycarbohydrates.
I'm like I don't really havemuch more room for this now, so
I prefer to just go for moreconvenient way.
As I'm getting a little bitolder, my appetite has decreased
a little.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Do you have a green supplement you recommend?
Speaker 2 (37:42):
There's probably a few out there.
I'd say Organifi is a good one.
It's not cheap, but that's agood one.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Okay, what do you think about AG1?
Speaker 2 (37:51):
AG1, I'm not really into that because it doesn't
come from an organic source.
So you know you have to becareful when you know products
don't come from an organicsource so they could be very
high in heavy metal contaminants.
So that's a neurotoxin and wedon't want any issues with our
brain.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Talk about some of the other supplements that you
provide through your company.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah, so we talked about glutathione earlier.
So I have a product calledLongevity EAAs.
So the reason why I startedthis company is because I wanted
to merge the health span sectorwith the sports performance
sector, because the majority ofthe talks that I do around the
world is all on anti-aging andincreasing your health span and
(38:35):
biohacking, etc.
So I wanted something thatcould sit in an expo at like the
Mr Olympia, but also fit atlike A4M, the longevity summit,
you know.
So we could merge and marrythose together.
So this longevity EAAs is afermented source.
Would you believe it that if itdoesn't say fermented, those
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aminos are usually derived fromhuman hair, animal fur or bird
feathers, no joke.
So you know the industrydoesn't really talk about that,
but we in the industry knowabout it.
So we use a fermented productthat is plant derived but you
still have the same nitrogenbalance.
Within that we have glutathione, which is that body's master
(39:17):
antioxidant, and we havesomething called spermidine,
which is like a fasting mimicker, mimica.
So the qualities and benefitsthat you get from fasting you
can, from a much, much smalleramount, get it from spermidine,
which helps with DNA repair.
Basically, that's great andthat's once a day.
(39:43):
So I ask people to consume thatduring their workouts and
extensive cardio sessions justto keep them anti-catabolic.
So the majority of my clientswant to burn fat, so they're
going to be in a calorie deficit, but I still want them to get
the amino acids to maintain orbuild muscle during that time.
And you're also dealing with alot of free radical damage when
you're working out as well.
So that's why I ask people totake it during workouts.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Great so.
Longevity, eaa, longevity, eaa.
What's the next one?
Speaker 2 (40:11):
What have we?
Longevity eaa, longevity, eaa.
What's the next one?
What we got here next?
So we got bh2k, we got isolatewe could talk about the
kregatine if you want to talkabout kregatine kregatine, so
this is a.
We're the only people in the usactually selling this.
Um, it's sold in europe, it'ssold in australia and it's a
combination of creatinemonohydrate with guanidinoacetic
acid.
That's what the GAA is.
(40:31):
So when you combine thosetogether, it gets absorbed
through four different pathways,as opposed to one with just
straight monohydrate, and italso crosses the blood-brain
barrier much more efficiently.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
So can you, can you hit on Because I think up until
I think?
For me, like the last year anda half, I always associated
creatine with muscle.
I mean, it was like yourmuscles needed it.
But now the brain benefits ofcreatine and the anti-aging, and
they're even talking aboutpreventing and helping prevent
dementia yeah, yeah, it's veryneuroprotective.
(41:06):
Yeah, talk about theneuroprotective benefits of
creatine and specifically howthis would compare to just
creatine monophosphate.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Yeah for sure.
So creatine helps themitochondria.
It helps with ATP addison,triphosphate.
So our body's ability toutilize energy and our brain
obviously functions on energy.
All of our organs function onenergy and our brain obviously
functions on energy.
All of our organs function onenergy.
However, it can be difficultfor certain amino acids to cross
the blood-brain barrier.
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That combination of GAA allowsit to absorb that much more
efficiently.
You'll get creatine into thebrain anyway if you're just
taking straight monohydrate,which is still neuroprotective.
So yeah, they've found instudies that it can help
decrease the onset ofdegenerative diseases of the
brain and become neuroprotectiveand also act as a nootropic to
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give you better brain function,memory recall reaction time.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Why isn't that more wildly talked about or known?
Speaker 2 (42:03):
I don't know, because a lot of people will frown and
mainstream media will frown uponcreatine, even though it is the
most studied amino acidingredient out there bar none.
People will say, oh, you'll getliver or kidney stress, because
that's happened, I think, in abaseball player 25 years ago but
(42:23):
they were dehydrated.
That probably took 25 grams aday or something grams, and they
were dehydrated yeah, a lot ofpeople back then were loading as
well, where there's taking 20grams a day.
You don't need to do that.
You you know, at the end of 28days studies have shown you
still reach the same saturationpoint, so you can just take a
maintenance dose daily which isfive, five milligrams yeah, be
five, five milligrams in this.
(42:46):
Uh, well, five grams, uh liketwice a day for the active
person.
Yeah, five grams, uh, twice aday for the active person.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Uh, ours is a microdose, so it's two grams
twice a day, okay, wow, yeah,interesting stuff that's I mean
you think of, uh, you know I'm56 now almost 57, and you think
of it.
You know I'm 56, now almost 57.
And you think about the thingsthat are starting to be
important to me.
Once I heard about that a yearago.
I'm like, oh man, I'm takingthat double the dose.
(43:15):
I've done it.
I just like why wouldn't you?
And if you're doing some sortof weight training and it
protects your brain and it'scheap and it's everybody should
say I cheap and it's Everybodyshould take it.
I mean, this is something thatshould be out there, and I just
don't hear much about it at all.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Okay, what else, Chris?
This is fantastic.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
We got immuno-IgG.
If you want to look at that,because we're talking about the
brain Now I spent like six weeksin a clinic in Oldsmar, florida
, with a gentleman called DrSpanaug and he is a brain
specialist.
You know he looks at the brainwhen people have had mold
toxicity, lyme disease etc.
And the one thing that healways used to say to me is that
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the gut is the first brain.
You know, a lot of doctors willsay it's the second brain, but
he was like no, it's the firstbrain, will say it's a second
brain, but he was like no, it'sthe first brain.
Because one of the reasons Isaid, this pro, pro-inflammatory
response that a lot of uspeople gives to our guts can
lead to that chemical imbalancein the brain.
Now if we're consumingartificial sugars, colors,
(44:18):
glyphosate, pesticides,herbicides, heavy metals, all
this crap trans, then we'recausing like some type of gut
dysbiosis.
We're, you know, we're screwingup the integrity of our gut
microbiome.
So I came out with this product, immuno-igg, and a white paper
has just been put out last weekactually showing the superiority
(44:42):
of Immuno-IgG over colostrum.
Colostrum is great, there's nodoubt about it, but you only
have about 55% 58% ofimmunoglobulins.
This is double that, andimmunoglobulins are the part
that helps with the healing ofyour gut and feeding your gut
microbiome with good bacteria.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
So, for everyone listening, igg immunoglobulin is
what it stands for, and so thisis all about protecting that,
assuming the gut, yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
So a lot of people, as I've said, you know, if
they've had a past of like,maybe they did a course of
antibiotics, or a courses ofantibiotics that will screw up
the gut microbiome, or theartificial sweeteners, whatever
it may be.
So a lot of people have dealtwith some type of problem with
digestion or bloatedness, youknow.
They just don't feel good.
They think it's glutenintolerance or whatever it may
(45:32):
be.
We have found that when peoplehave started taking immuno IgG
for about two to four weeks,they notice a complete heal in
their gut issues that they weredealing with before.
Wow, yeah, and remember, a lotof our hormones are created in
the gut as well.
So you know, we know thattestosterone levels have been
decreasing year after year.
(45:53):
They've even lowered thestandard of it, you know, would
you believe it just a few yearsago?
And you know it's no wonderthat we're eating a really,
really bad diet, we're sleepinglate, we're exposed to so much
more stress, so of coursesomething's going to give, and
testosterone is usually thenumber one.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Wow, fantastic.
Any of the other ones therebefore I ask you the next kind
of topic here.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
There's a few supplements here, but we can
move on if you want.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
I don't want to miss anything, Chris.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
I've got you here for this podcast.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
We'll go to BH2K, you've got the damn world expert
on all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
So BH2K, so this stands for Be Harder to Kill.
That's kind of my slogan, Ilove that.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Be Harder to Kill.
Be Harder to Kill.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
BH2K.
I love it.
We should all be harder to kill.
So this doesn't have anycaffeine.
None of my products do, becauseI don't want to have that
cortisol spike.
What we do have is what's ametabolite of caffeine called
parazanthin.
So my friend and biochemist isknown as the world's leading
(46:57):
formulator was able to extractand isolate this metabolite and
it gives you more of a euphoricfeeling.
It doesn't have any of thenegatives of caffeine being slow
.
It's got very short half-lifeof about three hours.
You could literally take itbefore bed and you can sleep.
You know it's it's, it's crazy,but you have this euphoric
(47:18):
feeling like you want to workout, you want to hit the gym,
you want to do something youknow.
So that is the main ingredientthat we have in that.
We have like cogni, iq, whichhelps with cognition.
We've got several likenootropic ingredients in there,
because I always tell people ifI'm looking at the physique,
it's usually the transformationcomes from above.
So you need to be focused, youneed to be on points you know,
(47:41):
you need to have that memoryrecall and, uh, reactive.
Reactive points need to bequicker as we get a little bit
older as well.
So I made sure that we put alot of focus into the nootropic
aspect as well.
And then we have thebeta-alanine, the citrine that
helps with the pump and lowerthe lactate acid buildup, so you
can push endurance a little bitmore as well.
(48:02):
So yeah, it's a pretty stackedformula.
Again, no artificial anythingin them.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
And talk about a name there buddy, Be harder to kill.
How can you go wrong if you'retaking a little bit of that
every morning?
I love it.
Talk a little more aboutanti-aging, because I know I
read somewhere that yourbiological age you're big into
calculating that and what is itfor you 26, 26.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
I'm chronologically 50, but my biological is 26.
When I first had it tested,2014, I was two years older
biologically than I waschronologically.
So I've been able to reduce ityear by year, and I think the
biggest part has been focusingon my sleep, because up until
that point, I wasn't sleeping.
You know, I was one of thoseentrepreneurs burning a candle
(48:50):
at both ends.
You know, thinking, yeah,sleeping's for wimps, I'm still
going to outwork you, I'm stillgoing to out train you.
It was just egotistical, but assoon as I started to focus on
that, that helped.
You know.
I got rid of a lot of the metalthat was in my mouth implants,
fillings, etc.
So you know that can act like aneurotoxin and cause stress to
the body as well.
I had all that taken out.
(49:11):
And then you know what, focusingon meditation and stress, you
know, really bringing myselfdown to be a little bit more
present, as opposed to stressingabout the future, worrying
about the past, about the past,and just really focusing on, you
know, being in aparasympathetic state, as
opposed to that sympathetic,dominant, dopamine filled state
that I, that I fed myself on forso many years.
(49:33):
And then, like I said, you knowcontrolling light, looking at
the sources of the ingredientsthat I'm consuming, and then you
know I have done some otherthings, like stem cells.
I'm sure that helped and thatcontributed to the reduction of
my biological age too.
Tell us a little bit more aboutthat.
Stem cells yeah, so I had setstem cells first in 2017.
(49:54):
I was getting ready for anIronman and you know I was
having problems in the swim.
I was basically, if I didn'thave a line to follow, I'd be
swimming to the right all thetime and I knew that I'd torn a
couple of muscles in my shoulder, so had stem cells put in there
to help with the healing ofthat, and it was just absolutely
(50:15):
life-changing you know ithelped everywhere my, my knees,
my elbows, everything.
It was just, it was crazy.
I felt like a teenager againand I had to fly to the first
time I went to Colombia.
The last two times 2020 and2024, I went to Mexico.
It's a place called CPIInstitute.
(50:37):
They're the sponsors of the UFCnow, so all the UFC guys go
down there.
Absolutely phenomenal facilityand that's been life-changing
Like.
I tore 68% of my tricep off thebone a few years ago
snowboarding man.
It just healed.
So good, so good, and I'llprobably go there every couple
(50:58):
of years because I have no, no,I'm not going to slow down
anytime soon.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
You mentioned hyperbaric oxygen.
Yeah, I'm involved with aclinic that treats um ptsd
traumatic brain injury andveterans great for that and we
have a two.
We we just built a world-classfacility in southeast boise.
I'd love to show it to yousometime.
That's two chambers um eightperson chambers.
Oh wow.
And then our protocol is divingthese vets um 40 days, two dives
(51:30):
a day, an hour, each time at1.8 atmospheres.
Yeah, but we just had our firstcohort go through, chris, and
it's it, was it.
Honestly, I think about itgives me chills, it's it.
It's so effective, um, it justis.
And so, um, when you see whatit does for these folks in a
(51:51):
relatively short period of timeas far as kind of a reset and
regeneration of of you know it'sgot to be just like it does for
tissue for your brain and your,your and your nerve endings and
everything but where, when itwhere does it fit in your
anti-aging kind of fitness side?
Because I'm more familiar withkind of the treatment of PTSD
(52:12):
and traumatic brain injury.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
So I've used it extensively,especially after like surgery or
stem cells, because it'll helpproliferate and stabilize stem
cells as well.
So I think it's absolutelyphenomenal for healing.
There's no doubt about it, andI also have some athletes that
are football players, motocrossriders, boxers or MMA fighters
(52:40):
where they're dealing with a lotof trauma to their head, but
they're not going to slow down,they're not going to stop.
So HBOT is definitely a part ofthat protocol.
I just wish more and morepeople knew about it, because
not many people know about itthat are participating in, like
Boise State, for instance, in alot of these sports where
they're just you know, they'recoming into contact or they're
(53:03):
in a contact sport and they knownothing about the benefits of
like hyperbaric oxygen or goingon a keto diet, on how that can
actually help the brain.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
Yeah, well, that's, that's incredible.
I can't believe our hours up.
Um what?
Where can we learn more of ofyou?
What would like?
I know you have a book out,right, um tell us a little bit
more.
Speaker 2 (53:27):
Do you have a website that has all of your
information?
I've got so many differentsites.
I've got a gym site, I've gotthe supplement sites, I've got a
small personal site.
Anyway, it's best to just go tomy Instagram and try to find
everything from there.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
What's your Instagram ?
Speaker 2 (53:41):
It's at K-R-I-S Gethin, g-e-t-h-i N oh there it
is.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
This is great.
Well, I mean, and your boy,your well, finish on this.
How did you, how did you end upin Boise?
Speaker 2 (53:55):
So I got the job opportunity of being editor in
chief of bodybuildcom in 2007.
That's when you know it wasn'treally that old.
I think there was only like 30of us in the office back then.
So that's why I moved hereoriginally.
And then when Ryan DeLuca leftthe company, I kind of thought,
well, I'm leaving too, becauseyou know he's a good friend of
(54:16):
mine.
And that's when I become avendor with bodybuildcom with my
first supplement company andwe're about to introduce that to
this company with Unmatched.
But I've absolutely fallen inlove with Boise.
You know I love the fourseasons.
I love taking advantage of thewinter and summer, sports, the
camping, the mountain biking, soit's a perfect spot for me.
(54:36):
My hair grows back every time Icome back.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
Well, hey, this was amazing.
I really appreciate you takingthe time to be here.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
I appreciate it too, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
With your international travel and all
your speaking stuff, and I knowa lot of people are going to get
a lot out of this and hopefullyget a lot healthier.
Let's hope so.
Thank you, my friend.
I appreciate it.
Thank you, thanks everybody.
Today on the Ever Onward podcast, we have a
special guest, chris Gethin, wholives here in Boise, but he is
an international star.
He is on podcasts everywhere.
He is a guru on all thingshealth.
Chris is originally from Wales,spends most of his time here in
the United States but doestravel internationally almost
every month.
He is a former bodybuilder andthen founded his own supplement
(00:25):
company, along with othercompanies, gyms and personal
training companies.
We are very excited to have himon today.
We're going to talk all thingshealth and wellness and
supplements.
I hope you enjoy Chris Gethin.
Chris, thank you for coming on.
(00:49):
I'm really excited.
Matty's told me about you for awhile.
He's like you've got to getChris on.
You've got to talk to this guy.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Okay, well, thank you , buddy, got you to thank.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Well, we appreciate it, because I know you do a lot
of this and you're travelinginternationally.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, but this is what I do.
You know, this is the part ofmy job that I really enjoy, is
where I can be present and wecan discuss things that could
potentially help some listenerone listener, so of course, I'm
all down for it.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I love that.
You've got such an incrediblebackground that this could go a
lot of different places.
So what I was going to startwith is what do you like?
You've got this and we'll do aformal intro before this thing
started, but what do you enjoymost about your life right now
and making a difference in theworld?
Because it seems like that'svery authentically what you're
(01:41):
up to right.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah.
So there's a few things.
Some of it is going to beselfless and others will be
selfish.
But the one thing that I reallydo love about my job and the
opportunities that I've had isto help people transform, and
usually we will see atransformation, a before and
after picture, but that's justsurface level of what that
(02:03):
person actually experiences.
Sometimes they influence theirloved ones, their family members
.
Sometimes you know they weresuicidal or they dealt with PTSD
, alcohol problems, and seeingthat change within them is
what's really really satisfyingto me.
You know, getting that feedback, the testimonial, that's what I
love.
(02:24):
The other part, what I reallyenjoy, is just being able to
work from home.
You know there's my own hoursto a certain degree but, as you
know, if you're a business owneror an entrepreneur, it's
difficult to actually take timeoff.
So you know we may go toKetchum this weekend.
Well, we are going to KetchumFriday, Saturday and Sunday.
I'll be a beautiful littlebreak, but to ensure that I'm
(02:46):
able to relax and chill out thatI'll have to work for a couple
of hours in the morning.
But that's okay, that's a verysmall sacrifice to make.
Every time I get on anotherflight I'm like okay, you have
to remind yourself that personwho you were 20, 25 years ago
only would have dreamed of this.
So don't complain about it.
So I'm very careful not to moanand whinge, because I know
(03:07):
there's a lot of people outthere that would love that
opportunity, and I was thatperson.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
And it is about changing people's lives.
I mean, I love how you've beenable to scale that and talk a
little bit about that, becauseyour background and how you
started, and then talk aboutthat 25 year ago guy, what you
were thinking life would be likeand how you've morphed into
what it's become, I mean it'spretty incredible, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
So I got into the fitness industry from extreme
sports.
I raced motocross for manyyears, downhill mountain biking,
just dealt with a lot ofinjuries and through rehab I was
able to alleviate myself ofsome of the pain that I was
dealing with.
I'd completely lost my identitybecause from the age of six I
was racing and that was myidentity.
That's the one thing that gaveme thrill, gave me purpose, a
(03:56):
sense of belonging, and when Ilost all that, it felt like I
lost everything.
And uh, you know, I turned toalcohol and drugs for about five
years there, like pretty heavy.
And where'd you grow up?
In Wales, in Wales.
So I've spent exactly half of mylife overseas from the age of
25.
And my first 25 years was inWales.
(04:19):
You know, I grew up on a farmand you know, after I left I
just went from city to city citythis is the closest to country
for me now um, but when Istarted alleviating myself of
the pain that I was dealing withfrom motocross physically, I
was alleviated of the mentalissues that I was dealing with
(04:39):
at that time, at that time aswell, and I just felt that I had
a sense of purpose justslightly again.
So that fed me a little bitmore and I'm very goal
orientated.
So I thought you know what?
I don't know anything aboutthis bodybuilding stuff.
I've read a lot about it inmagazines because that was like
my comic book.
I wasn't really interested incomic books, but I used to love
(05:00):
looking at bodybuildingmagazines way before I even got
into bodybuilding.
So when I fixated myself onthis I decided, okay, I'm going
to look to see if there's abodybuilding show here in Wales.
And then I found one.
So it was one and a half yearsafter I picked up a weight for
the first time.
I competed in my first show,not knowing that there was
(05:23):
natural and enhanced shows.
I had no idea.
So I went and competed in anenhanced show, not knowing that
there was natural and enhancedshows.
I had no idea.
So I went and competed in anenhanced show, but completely
natural.
I was definitely the smallestby far but I got absolutely
shredded and I managed to getsecond place.
So that's when the bug reallyreally hit me and knowing how it
helped me when you fast forwarda little bit, you know I worked
(05:46):
on cruise liners as a personaltrainer, moved to Australia, and
it was when I was in Australiaand I had my own gym.
That's when I realized OK, Ihave got to tell other people
about this.
This is how it's changed me.
Life would have been a whiteknuckle ride.
I could have been locked up,but I'm not, because I found
this.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
I'm going to ask you a question.
I don't know the answer to this, but back when you go in for
motocross and then before youfound fitness as your therapy,
essentially drug addiction yeah,Was that any opiate related
from your injuries?
No, nothing whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Was that any opiate related from your injuries?
No, nothing whatsoever.
No, pharmaceuticals aren'treally heavily influenced in the
UK, not in Wales anyway.
I remember when my grandfatherpassed away a couple of years
ago at 93 years old.
They'd asked him just beforehave you taken antibiotics?
And he's like what's anantibiotic?
We just don't do that stuff.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
So it's not like over here, right, far from it.
Far from it.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
This was this was just other drug use, but not
related injuries.
I just no, no, no, it was justbecause I'd lost my way and now
I was seeking, uh, a thrill.
Still, I was still thrill, uh,seeking adrenaline, and I was
getting that from drugs, yeah,you know, and, um, I, I, I
didn't feel completely at homewith it because on a Monday I'd
be like there's no way I'm doingthat again, this is the time,
(07:11):
nope.
And then come Thursday orFriday, get a couple of phone
calls and I'm influenced.
I was very, very easilyinfluenced.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
How do you teach people how to train?
I mean you were definitelygoal-oriented, focused.
I mean, a year and a half intoit, you're in your first
competition.
How do you encourage others tofind passion like that?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
It all depends on the individual.
So if that person is a motheror father, then that's great,
because then they have some formof accountability and
responsibility to take care ofthemselves.
Because, as we know, childrenlearn by observation.
Whatever they observe is whatthey're probably going to mimic.
So I make it very important tothem that they need to
(07:55):
prioritize their health for thehealth of their family.
But for other people, like Isaid, it could be like some
mental issue.
For other people, like I said,it could be like some you know,
mental issue.
You know they're dealing withsome sort of uh, mental
irregularities and you knowworking out will help release
good, feel good hormones, yourdopamine, and help you sleep
better.
And then, obviously, if you'restarting to live a healthier
(08:18):
lifestyle and you're not onlyfeeding what people think is
just your body through food, youfeed your brain through food.
So you know we get thesechemical reactions every time we
eat something that'spro-inflammatory, that can lead
to a chemical reaction in thebrain and a lot of people just
don't feel good.
They're dealing with brain fog.
They don't have energy.
(08:38):
As soon as they start eatingbetter, they start feeding the
brain, the brain is functioningas it should and then the blood
flow from working out or doingcardio in the morning.
That will enhance the bloodflow to your brain so you can
think better.
Like when I went to school, Ifailed everything.
I did not like school, I hatedevery minute of it and I felt
(08:58):
very, very frustrated because Icouldn't retain any of the
content.
But then, when I got into thebodybuilding I later went to
college for three years to studyinternational health and sports
therapy I realized, you knowthat, the power of really honing
in on that nutrition, because Ifelt it, and then, while I was
(09:19):
at college, I was able to retainall the content I passed,
easily, you know, and that'swhen it made me realize okay,
well, this is something thatinterests me Number one.
Number two I'm actually feedingmy brain with the fuel that it
requires, cause when I wasracing motocross and downhill
mountain biking, there wasn'treally any information about
(09:40):
nutrition and I was just tryingto get the calories in.
I was burning through so manycalories, so I was eating a lot
of junk.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
Um, talk, talk about nutrition.
I have a lot of things I wantto get into with you.
Yeah, for sure.
But uh, you're, you're,probably.
I can't wait to hear youranswers to a lot of this.
But um for, uh, we have a lotof business people that listen
to this.
Business leaders that are, youknow, you know you balance
stress and life and bad food andfog.
(10:06):
You brought it up already, Ithink just the American diet and
just kind of what processedfoods and what we do, and then
you have kind of just you'rejust getting by right, so you're
just taking in calories and notmaking good choices, probably
don't have time to exercise, soyou get into this metabolic you
know situation where it's justnot good and then it goes into
(10:29):
sleep and I don't, you know, soyou're in this negative cycle.
When you're getting people outof this cycle, talk about the
importance of nutrition andexercise, what do you?
What do you do?
First, do you do it alltogether?
How do you?
How do you?
How do you?
What do you?
Noticed as the first thing thatmakes a difference in people to
really cause it's almost likecoming out of fog when you start
eating well and you like go, ohI, I feel better.
(10:51):
Well then I'm more likely towork out, then I'm more like you
.
You kind of get them spinningin the right direction.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, so the the first thing that I usually do
because, especially in this dayand age, like my answer is
different today than what itwould have been 10, 15 years ago
is sleep, Because that is thething that you know,
entrepreneurs, business owners,kind of put to the side
Sleeping's for wimps.
I'll do that when I'm dead, andyou know.
And then they made baddecisions.
(11:18):
Usually because the brain isfatigued, they start reaching
for food.
That is not good for thembecause they just want to feel
better, because they're so tired.
And you're not going to makethe right decisions at those
times when you're fatigued andyou're probably not going to get
up and do your cardio or go tothe gym because of the source.
So I always tell people look atthe source.
(11:38):
I will.
If they do wear like a whoop oran aura ring or anything like
that, I'll check their scoresand get them to utilize that as
their accountability to improvethis, and then I will give them
the information on nutrition andhydration workout.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Can we stay on sleep for a minute?
I'd love to, because I want toget your recommendations.
Lots of devices out there rightnow.
What's your recommendation andwhy?
Speaker 2 (12:00):
So I like the aura ring because you can switch that
off Bluetooth so it can trackthroughout the night.
You know, when you've got theApple Watches and the whoops and
whatnot, it does have to stayon Bluetooth the entire time.
I don't like that.
I try to keep as much radiationout of the bedroom as possible,
you know, and make sure that nophone is near, and I'll always
(12:22):
ask clients to bookend their dayfor an hour before bed and an
hour after waking so they're notreactory all the time.
And the more that they releasedopamine throughout the day
trigger, trigger, trigger thebody will expect that during the
night as well.
So a lot of these people wakeup in the night, like constantly
.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
When do you stop caffeine in relation to the
night because it's got a longhalf-life yes, for some people.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
Some people are slow caffeine metabolizers, other
people are very, very fast um,remind me to get into this.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Do you recommend doing the metabolism tests and
knowing what kind of uhmetabolizer you are?
Do you do that with all your?
With caffeine, you mean withjust just the general, like
there's the test you can takethat says hey, this is how my
liver functions and how Imetabolize.
Do you do that up front witheverybody?
I'll do blood reports.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
I'll do blood tests yeah, blood test dna and we'll
do like a glycan age, which is abiological age test to see what
age they are biologically okayso then then then you kind of
know how do I metabolize, butfor but.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
But in general you stop caffeine because you have
this transition period beforemelatonin hits in.
Right, yeah, dopamine going,you got, if you any supplements
you took during the day withwith uh, caffeine or a stimulant
, and then you got this kind ofwind down period.
How important is light duringthat yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
So number one with the caffeine.
I usually don't allow people toconsume that in the afternoon.
Okay, morning, fine, try not todo it first thing in the
morning because your cortisol isat its highest peak anyway.
You don't want to raise it evenmore.
I don't do caffeine.
I drink decaf coffee like Idon't drink.
There's no caffeine in thisenergy drink.
My supplements don't havecaffeine because it raises
(13:54):
cortisol and can have a diureticeffect and it can have a long
half-life, yeah, in it.
So you know, that's a, that'sone, that's one thing.
When it comes to yeah, I willalways wear blue light blocking
glasses about an hour before bedif I'm watching TV or something
like that, because I don't wantthat to penetrate my retina to
say, okay, we're going torelease dopamine because we're
(14:17):
wide awake and it's daylight, orcortisol because you cannot
release your serotonin,melatonatonin, oxytocin at that
time sufficiently, so that'salways a good hour to two hours
before bed as well.
Upstairs in my bedroom it lookslike a brothel anyway, because
I've got the red lampseverywhere, the non-flicker red
lamp again, because I don't wantit to stimulate me if I wake up
(14:39):
to go to a pee or anything likethat.
I've just got the, the soft redlamps.
So light is very important,extremely important, yeah,
especially for me, because Itravel so much so I'm constantly
flying into different timezones.
I don't have time to have jetlag because usually I'll land
somewhere and the next day I'vegot a talk to do, okay.
So I need to be on point.
So I'll make sure that I'mwearing the blue light blocking
(15:01):
glasses, dependent on the timezone i'm'm going to.
So if it's nighttime there, I'mwearing the glasses.
I'm not eating.
I'm fasting during that time tohelp me regulate to the new
time zone that I'm going into.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Temperature Any advice on temperature during the
night?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
It's going to be different for different people,
like, for instance, mostly womenlike to have it warmer, guys
maybe 65, 66 degrees, but mywife cannot sleep in anything
less than like 68 at theabsolute max.
That's stretching it.
So I have something called achili pad.
So my side is cold, her side iswarm, warm, so that really
(15:43):
helps regulate.
Making sure got blackout blindsas well.
Uh, we have a weighted blanket.
That helps, because I thinkthat sends you back maybe to
your childhood, where you feelnurtured and having that weight
really does help for some peopledefinitely helps with me.
Um, yeah, and making sure thatyou've obviously got a very,
very, very good mattress.
(16:03):
A lot of people will skimp onthat.
Knowing, knowing that you spendnearly half your life in bed,
you should have a very, verygood mattress.
So sleep is foundational beforeyou start anything else Of all
the biohacks that I've done overthe years that helped me is
going to be sleep.
Okay, yeah, you can buy all thetechnology you know the
(16:24):
hyperbaric oxygen, the redlights and all that sort of
stuff and that's where a lot ofpeople, unfortunately, put value
.
They don't put any value intheir free stuff, like the
meditation or the sleep, etcetera.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Okay, right, I love it.
Okay, so then you're startingyour day.
Yeah, Take us through theperfect day.
Kind of mixing in what wouldyou recommend to anyone
listening today?
Kind of the key elements aftersleep.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Okay, well, usually, like I said, I go to bed pretty
early, like 7.30 in the evening,like that early, so I'm not the
most sociable person to ask outand whatnot.
I will break that every now andagain, but I go to bed early,
so I wake up early, usuallybetween 4 and 5 am.
I will break that every now andagain, but I go to bed early,
so I wake up early.
Usually between 4 and 5 am Iwill wake up.
But when I go to bed, just onething I want to make note of is
(17:11):
I read for about 45 to 60minutes because that is
something like a James Pattersonnovel, ian Rankin, just to
escape all the deadlines, allthe calls, all the meetings that
I've had throughout the day andall the things I've got to do
the next day.
So it helps shut that off so Ican just lose myself in an
alternative reality.
So that helps.
(17:31):
And then I usually wake up atthat time and I'll hydrate
myself, I'll drink somehydrogen-rich water and usually
straight after that I'm gettinginto the sauna or the ice bath.
I try not to pack all my kindof biohacks in the morning
because I found myself gettingstressed that I couldn't fit
them all in.
It was kind of counterintuitive.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Before you move on, hydration is the key, Because
you're dehydrating over thenight, right, and then usually
that first thing just gettinghydration back up where it needs
is a critical thing that a lotof people just don't do.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah, it's even worse in other countries, like in
Europe, that I find, because noone will come out and ask you
for water in a restaurant.
They'll look at you like ifyou're from another planet when
you ask for it.
But as a whole, becauseespecially in the US, we've
become such a caffeine cultureand it does act like a diuretic
(18:28):
that dehydrates us too.
But during the night our brainloses about 40% of its hydration
.
It shrinks, really, reallyshrinks throughout the night,
about 40%.
So it's essential, as soon aswe wake up, to have that
cognitive function is to hydrateas much as possible.
But it isn't just the volume ofthe fluid.
(18:48):
You have to look at the qualityof the fluid as well, so making
sure you've got electrolytes init.
So if you do have a home watersystem, it could be a reverse
osmosis, so it completely cleansthe water, but then a
remineralizer, so you'remineralizing the water as well
and getting electrolyte function, magnesium, uh, throughout the
day.
Any comments on quantity?
(19:08):
a typical adult how much theyshould drink everyone's going to
be different when it comes downto how much they're working out
, how much they're perspiringand where they live.
If it's a humid, yeah, humid,but it could be a gallon, it
could be three quarters of agallon, could be half a gallon.
If it's a smaller person, okay,but, but a significant amount,
yeah, significant yeah I meanyou just went from quarter
gallon.
I mean like yeah, so what Iencourage people to do as well
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is add some electrolytes thatare flavored naturally, flavored
naturally sweetened.
You don't want all thesucralose recommendation on that
.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Well, I'm gonna give you my brand.
I know that's where I'm goingyeah, okay.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Well, it's ElectraShred, but the reason.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
We're going to start pulling this up.
If that's okay, chris, for allthose watching on YouTube, we're
going to start pulling this up.
So your website is Unmatched.
Unmatched, we're going to getinto this, but you've got your
own line of really greatproducts, chris.
That's fantastic.
Thank you On unmatched.
So here you go.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Electroshed, electroshed, yeah, so you have
electrolytes in there.
You also have a spectra blendof, like fruits and vegetables,
a serving of fruits andvegetables in there.
So you have an antioxidantthroughout the day, because we
deal with a lot of free radicaldamage, whether it be in air
conditioning, pollutants,whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
So free radicals.
Let's just define that foreveryone listening.
So free radicals are are.
We all have chemicals in ourbody.
These free radicals areprecursors to cancers.
They're cleaned up all the timeby our bodies, by our lymph
system, by our spleen, byeverything else.
But if your immune system isnot strong, if you're not doing
the right stuff, these freeradicals can cause all sorts of
take over.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
Yeah, autoimmune diseases, etc.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Yeah so, so big big thing and and and it's been
shown that if you do the rightkind of pre-treatment for that
you can reduce those levels downand so that you're you know
it's a big deal right?
Speaker 2 (20:51):
yeah, for sure.
That's why it's very importantto have, you know, your fruits,
your vegetables, yourantioxidants.
Now you see people, you knowconsuming glutathione yeah, more
than vitamin c, because that'sa master antioxidant.
You can have hydrogen richwater, you can have carbon c60
all these really, really strong,potent antioxidants.
And I take them all because Iknow I go through a lot of free
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radical damage through workingout and training and traveling
as well, so I always stay on topof that and so a good way to do
it is morning with the water,putting this in.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Yeah, get you, get you kind of that.
That's like the starting theperfect day, right?
Speaker 2 (21:25):
yeah, because like if you're having too much fluid,
by itself it can dilute you ofthe essential minerals that are
found in the body, so it canflush them out.
So you've got to make sure thatyou replenish, okay, great okay
, keep going.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I love this man.
Okay, I'm already feelinghealthier but I was.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Yeah, the fluid is the number one thing a lot of
people deal with, like headaches.
You know they're fatigued, theydon't have the energy and a lot
of it isn't because of maybethey didn't eat well the day
before, it's because they'relacking in hydration.
You know, when I have myclients to write down, you know
what their sprint was, how muchweight they pushed on a certain
exercise or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
And they have to tell me their hydration every day.
If the hydration is down,usually the day before, the day
after, their performance is down, I love it.
I love it.
Okay, so we just did hydration,um, any any any other morning.
You mentioned meditation.
I want to hit kind of, if you,if you had to do your perfect
morning, what does that kind ofstarting the day you've, you've
got up, and then talk aboutlight in the morning and
hydration, and then we hithydration and then what's next?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
yeah, so, um, I don't mind light in the morning as
long as it's non-flicker,because that's going to raise my
cortisol a little high.
So I use a biohack for that,which is, um, basically a
glasses that you wear and theyhave a light below so you can
still see what you're doing, butit's a non-flicker blue and
green light to help set yourcircadian rhythm for the night.
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Usually, because I do so much,I like to stack my biohacks.
So if I'm in the sauna, that'swhen I'm usually stretching or
meditating.
If not, I've got another devicethat helps me get into a
meditative state moreefficiently.
And you know, it's likelistening on, you know on an app
, uh, that has like binauralbeats.
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It's a guided meditation andit's also light therapy as well,
through the ear canals and theeyes.
It's it's called a brain tapand I spoke to dr Patrick Porter
, who's the inventor of that,and it's absolutely fascinating
how it works.
And I've gone away and done10-day vipassanas, you know,
silent retreats.
I find this is the easiest wayfor me to fall into a meditation
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, because I'm going to givemyself 15 to 20 minutes to
meditate.
That puts me in, really, reallyquick.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
Can we look this up, Matthew, just to make sure.
Brain tap.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Brain tap puts me in really, really quick.
Can we look this up, matthew,just to make sure, and maybe we
can put the brain tap, brain tap, yeah, it's a fascinating
device.
Now some people are okay to bein a room, like I know a couple
of people here in boise, andthey're phenomenal meditation
practitioners and they can getstraight into that zone without
guidance.
You know, they're just in it.
I'm not one of those guys.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
I'm not one of those people as well there was a time
I I had a heart problem and Ihad uh open heart surgery and my
physician, who was a goodfriend, she's like, you've got
to start meditating you got yougot it.
You just stress is the biggestkiller and I'm going to teach
you how to do it.
So I said, I said and I'vetried, I can't.
So she came to my office liketwo times.
And it's a great story becauseshe comes in the middle of the
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day first of all, like I'msitting there, she's like, hey,
we're gonna practice right.
And after two times she's likeI'm giving up on you.
So that was kind of like theythink.
So I'm very interested in thisbecause this might be for you.
So so here's the device think,sleep and perform better brain
tap yeah, wow.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
So, like I said, it works with various sounds.
So they were.
It's kind of like aquadraphonic sound.
Well, it goes from oneheadphone to another.
So, dr Patrick Porter, if he isactually doing the meditation
because there's probably about500 of them on there they will
start talking in one ear canal.
And then, just before it startsshutting off here, it will start
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in this one, so it's always acrossover.
I find it fascinating how thatworks, because you are able to
listen, to do two differenttypes of instruction at the same
time.
How it works, yeah, and, like Isaid, the light therapy shines
into your eyes as well, along incoordination with the light
therapy in the ear canals.
That goes with a specific beat,the b binaural beat, and the
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wavelength of sound and theguided meditation.
It seems to work.
I used it for the first timejust before I had to do a talk
at the Health OptimizationSummit in UK and I'm in the
middle of an expo and I justlost myself, all sense of
reality and I felt so refreshed.
They say a deep meditation,like like 20 minutes, can be
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like two hours of sleep orsomething like that.
Don't quote me and I honestlyfeel that way.
You know I never have energyissues.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
I love it okay well, hey we're, we're already
clipping along here and andwe're feeling better already.
So you said cold and light, sotalk to to me about sauna and
cold plungers.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah.
So it's been shown in studiesthat you can decrease your
all-cause mortality by about 50%.
Some say 43%, but you knowaround 43, 50%, let's call it
that if you're in a sauna fivedays a week for at least 20
minutes, okay, and you know thatmeans that you know your
chances of dying is decreasedthat much.
You know.
They've done a lot of thesestudies in Finland.
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We're in the UK after work theyjust drink alcohol.
You know very different.
So that helps your body produceheat shock proteins, which helps
repair damaged DNA, foldedproteins etc.
So it helps with your longevityand your health span in a very
big way and, of course, yourdetoxification at the same time,
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because we have a lot of heavymetals in our food supply, in
pollutants, so you're able tokind of bind and collate some of
these heavy metals when you'rein a sauna I always encourage
people to use a binder thatcould be activated charcoal,
that's a little bit harsh andcan collate some of your
minerals.
But I usually do chlorella,chlorella.
Take that about 30 minutesbefore a sauna and help release
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a lot of the toxins that ourbody… and then do you have a?
Speaker 1 (27:18):
protocol with sauna and cold plunge together If I
have time, if you have time.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
So if I have time, I do the sauna first, but I'll
always finish with cold.
Okay, so if I have time, I dothe sauna first, but I'll always
finish with cold, Always finishwith cold.
So I've got an ice bath at home.
That's cold 24-7.
It also has hydrogen.
It filters hydrogen through itand it's grounded and I usually
spend like 25, 30 minutes in asauna.
I did 30 minutes this morningin a sauna and I spent about
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three minutes in the ice bathand at the moment it's cold.
It's cold, it is cold.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
Roughly what temperature?
Speaker 2 (27:49):
32.
Wow, yeah, it's super cold it'ssuper cold.
Yeah, there's a phenomenal guycalled Ice Plunge Cam.
You should look him up.
He's here locally.
I can make that introduction.
He's a fascinating guy.
Ice Plunge Cam.
His name's Cam.
Ice Ice Plunge Cam.
His name's Cam.
Ice Plunge Cam.
Yeah, yeah, cameron, and therehe is.
There he is, well, he's onInstagram.
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I haven't seen him on YouTube,but anyway, he travels around
the world and he does these icebaths and he's in rivers
everywhere.
He got in my ice bath and hesuffered, he suffered.
I was thinking, well, if hethinks it's cold, it must be
super cold.
Because I think when you're inthe water, you build a thermic
layer, yes, where you know um,on like the front of the body,
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the back, you know, wherever thewater isn't always filtering,
so you have that thermic barrierwhere you don't necessarily
have that in the ice bath,because I've got a hose in there
that's pumping water too thatsounds cold yeah, it's nasty.
It's nasty, but this is why Ireally like it and it isn't
because, oh, it knocks outinflammation, it helps with
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joints and aches and pains, itgives me so much mental
stability and it makes meresilient, makes me harder to
kill, because there's not onesingle morning I want to get in
there never.
But of course we have to getused to doing things that we
don't want to do, especially onthe mornings that we don't want
to do them, so it can have atranscendence effect in other
areas of our life isn't the datalike the clearly you can feel
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better from inflammation andother stuff, because that's been
done for a long time, but themental and brain changes that
happen with this are.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
We're just starting to plumb the depths of just how
good it is for us.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, that's the number one priority for me yeah.
Helps tone the vagal nerve, andthat vagal nerve that takes you
into that fight or flightresponse gets toned.
So you have more mentalstability throughout the day.
And sometimes I'll wear a 24hour blood glucose monitor and
what I notice is, if I do theice bath in the morning for a
few minutes, my blood sugarlevels are so much more
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stabilized as well.
So mental stability and bloodglucose stability Okay.
So there's a lot of benefits.
Exercise yeah, exercise, soexercise.
I do encourage it on a dailybasis, dependence on that
person's lifestyle.
If it's very stressed, they'relacking in sleep, they've got a
lot going on, then maybe I'llgive them an entire day off, you
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know, just to fully rechargeand recover.
But cardio is usually, you know, five days a week and some form
of weight training, dependenton the individual, three to five
times a week, 45 minutes asession.
It doesn't have to be for hourslike a lot of people spend in
the gym.
It has to be quality overquantity.
You go in there just like it'sthe office, no distraction, get
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it done and get out.
But I think it's very importantthat people prioritize the most
important muscle, which is, likeyou said, the heart, and we
look in the mirror, we justthink, okay, I want the abs that
this person on Instagram has, Iwant the pecs, the delts, not
knowing that the absolute healthcomes from the cardiovascular
function.
(30:51):
So make sure that you're doingI don't know, it could be
running, it could be cycling, itcould be swimming Just scratch
that itch on a daily basis.
We're not supposed to be sat onour asses all day.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
How many minutes?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Cardio 20?
, 20?
.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
Yeah, 20 minutes cardio 20, 20.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Yeah, 20 minutes.
That's absolutely fine.
You know it could be hit work,it could be.
If it's tabata, it could be aslow as, like, eight minutes.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
If it's hit work, could be as low as 15 minutes so
you really want to get, get,get your heart going and
recovery and back and forth,okay, yeah and it actually helps
you recover from your workoutsas well.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
The better blood flow that you get from the
cardiovascular exercise, thebetter it will transfer.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
Your body will transport nutrients and oxygen
rich blood to those muscles tohelp recovery um, diet, what's
your like for your clients thatyou talk to and say, hey, sleep,
foundational.
There's all these life hacksthat you, you can and can't do.
Hydration in the morning um,we've talked about cold and
(31:47):
sauna Diet.
What are your recommendations,and I can't wait to hear this.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah, so of course, there's a lot of fads that are
out there and some of them havemerits.
You know it could be like thecarnivore diet, keto, paleo, etc
.
I think the diet that has themost variety of healthy single
ingredient foods is the way togo.
You know, making sure thatyou've got, like the rainbow on
your plate, different colors ofvegetables, making sure that
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you've got healthy fats in thereit could be olive oil.
You know, staying away fromrefined vegetable oils.
It could be like nuts, seeds,fish, et cetera.
You know, making sure thatyou're having the first class
proteins and single formingredients of your vegetables
and complex carbohydrates.
You know potatoes, rice, etc.
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The one big thing so you know,making sure that you have
variety is staying away fromprocessed foods.
But whenever you can, if youcan afford it, grass-fed, humane
, raised, well-caught, organicis the way to go, because the
transition that I made in 2014,going from mass-produced food
because I was like I just wantto get the meals in I didn't
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really know much about thesourcing of the food back then.
As soon as I transitioned overto grass-fed, well-caught, etc.
Within about a month I wasreduced of all inflammation in
my joints that I thought wasjust a byproduct of working out.
I just thought okay, this is it.
This is why I'm sore.
It's fine, it's part of thesacrifice that I'm going to make
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, but I was eliminated of all ofthat discomfort within about a
month is there any truth tolectins and their inflammatory?
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Those are like found in beans and some of those
things.
If you look at lectin richfoods, you stay away from those.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
No no, because, like I think, you know these plant
defense mechanisms such aslectin.
I think that, of course, thatcauses an inflammatory response
in your gut and it creates amore diverse microbiome to deal
with that, but you have toconsume it in order to create
that diversity.
A lot of people stay away fromit, so now they don't have as
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much diversity and are going tobecome more sensitive to it.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
So clean like non-processed.
Non-processed yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:02):
If you can't pronounce the ingredient, your
body's probably not going torecognize it either.
I love that.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
I love that.
What supplements should take anaverage 30, 40-year-old person
working busy family?
What are your kind ofcan't-miss supplements you would
do every day?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Sure Again, I usually get people to do blood work
because I like to see theirdeficiencies and I don't like to
guess, I like to test.
Because I like to see theirdeficiencies and I don't like to
guess, I like to test.
But the usual is a lot of usspend time indoors at this time
of the year that we're goinginto winter now, so people
aren't getting as much vitamin D.
And vitamin D isn't a vitamin,it's a hormone.
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It actually helps regulate yourhormones.
It's a precursor totestosterone.
So vitamin D with K2 to helpwith the absorption, that could
be as high as 10 000 for a lotof people.
I had my mother on it for 20 20000 iu for a while because she
had a major deficiency, but now,once it was stabilized, we're
able to bring that down.
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The other thing is, uh, omega-3oils, you know, help with brain
function, help with testosteroneas well, help with joint
lubrication, so it helps withtestosterone as well.
Help with joint lubrication.
So it helps with synovial fluidto help lubricate those joints.
So fish oil is always at thetop of that list and then I
usually look at okay, if thatindividual that I'm working with
is eating now five to six mealsand it's always it's probably
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inconvenient because they'reworking out.
Then it could be a proteinshake in there as well to fill
in those gaps, if needed.
Of course I always prioritizefood first, but if it means that
food is going to be aninconvenience, let's quash that
inconvenience with a shake.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Do you have a recommended type A?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
grass-fed whey isolate.
Grass-fed whey isolate yeah, soyou need to stay away from
foods that could be possiblypro-inflammatory.
So it's the same with the wheyisolate.
It shouldn't come from cowsthat have been filled with
antibiotics and fed onglyphosate et cetera.
And if you have the grass-fed,try to ensure again that it
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doesn't have any artificialsugars, any artificial
sweeteners in there.
It should be a very, very cleanproduct, and going for an
isolate means that it's probablylactose-free as well.
Magnesium yeah, magnesium is agood one.
Yeah, I didn't mention that one.
Yeah, about 60% of Americans Ithink 63% are deficient in
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magnesium, so it is an essentialsupplement for most as well.
So I supplement with magnesium.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
And isn't there one variant that's the best?
Speaker 2 (36:37):
It all depends on the goal.
Specifically, I take all seven.
I take all seven.
I have a supplement that andit's not my own supplement, but
I have a supplement that I takefrom a company called
BiOptimizers and they have allseven types of magnesium within
their caps.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
Oh, wow.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
Yeah, so it's a good fail-safe.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
Wow, I guess that does Multivitamin.
No, do you think most peopleneed a multivitamin it?
Speaker 2 (37:02):
all depends Some people.
For me, for instance, I'm not ahuge veggie eater I wish I was
so I will generally take amultivitamin and sometimes a
green powder just to helpfulfill that.
But I would suggest people justeat all their fruits and
vegetables.
You know fruits I'm good.
It's the vegetables because Ieat so much.
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I don't have room for thevegetables Once I've eaten my
protein and my carbohydrates.
I'm like I don't really roomfor the vegetables Once I've
eaten my protein and mycarbohydrates.
I'm like I don't really havemuch more room for this now, so
I prefer to just go for moreconvenient way.
As I'm getting a little bitolder, my appetite has decreased
a little.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
Do you have a green supplement you recommend?
Speaker 2 (37:42):
There's probably a few out there.
I'd say Organifi is a good one.
It's not cheap, but that's agood one.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Okay, what do you think about AG1?
Speaker 2 (37:51):
AG1, I'm not really into that because it doesn't
come from an organic source.
So you know you have to becareful when you know products
don't come from an organicsource so they could be very
high in heavy metal contaminants.
So that's a neurotoxin and wedon't want any issues with our
brain.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Talk about some of the other supplements that you
provide through your company.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah, so we talked about glutathione earlier.
So I have a product calledLongevity EAAs.
So the reason why I startedthis company is because I wanted
to merge the health span sectorwith the sports performance
sector, because the majority ofthe talks that I do around the
world is all on anti-aging andincreasing your health span and
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biohacking, etc.
So I wanted something thatcould sit in an expo at like the
Mr Olympia, but also fit atlike A4M, the longevity summit,
you know.
So we could merge and marrythose together.
So this longevity EAAs is afermented source.
Would you believe it that if itdoesn't say fermented, those
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aminos are usually derived fromhuman hair, animal fur or bird
feathers, no joke.
So you know the industrydoesn't really talk about that,
but we in the industry knowabout it.
So we use a fermented productthat is plant derived but you
still have the same nitrogenbalance.
Within that we have glutathione, which is that body's master
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antioxidant, and we havesomething called spermidine,
which is like a fasting mimicker, mimica.
So the qualities and benefitsthat you get from fasting you
can, from a much, much smalleramount, get it from spermidine,
which helps with DNA repair.
Basically, that's great andthat's once a day.
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So I ask people to consume thatduring their workouts and
extensive cardio sessions justto keep them anti-catabolic.
So the majority of my clientswant to burn fat, so they're
going to be in a calorie deficit, but I still want them to get
the amino acids to maintain orbuild muscle during that time.
And you're also dealing with alot of free radical damage when
you're working out as well.
So that's why I ask people totake it during workouts.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
Great so.
Longevity, eaa, longevity, eaa.
What's the next one?
Speaker 2 (40:11):
What have we?
Longevity eaa, longevity, eaa.
What's the next one?
What we got here next?
So we got bh2k, we got isolatewe could talk about the
kregatine if you want to talkabout kregatine kregatine, so
this is a.
We're the only people in the usactually selling this.
Um, it's sold in europe, it'ssold in australia and it's a
combination of creatinemonohydrate with guanidinoacetic
acid.
That's what the GAA is.
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So when you combine thosetogether, it gets absorbed
through four different pathways,as opposed to one with just
straight monohydrate, and italso crosses the blood-brain
barrier much more efficiently.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
So can you, can you hit on Because I think up until
I think?
For me, like the last year anda half, I always associated
creatine with muscle.
I mean, it was like yourmuscles needed it.
But now the brain benefits ofcreatine and the anti-aging, and
they're even talking aboutpreventing and helping prevent
dementia yeah, yeah, it's veryneuroprotective.
(41:06):
Yeah, talk about theneuroprotective benefits of
creatine and specifically howthis would compare to just
creatine monophosphate.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Yeah for sure.
So creatine helps themitochondria.
It helps with ATP addison,triphosphate.
So our body's ability toutilize energy and our brain
obviously functions on energy.
All of our organs function onenergy and our brain obviously
functions on energy.
All of our organs function onenergy.
However, it can be difficultfor certain amino acids to cross
the blood-brain barrier.
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That combination of GAA allowsit to absorb that much more
efficiently.
You'll get creatine into thebrain anyway if you're just
taking straight monohydrate,which is still neuroprotective.
So yeah, they've found instudies that it can help
decrease the onset ofdegenerative diseases of the
brain and become neuroprotectiveand also act as a nootropic to
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give you better brain function,memory recall reaction time.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Why isn't that more wildly talked about or known?
Speaker 2 (42:03):
I don't know, because a lot of people will frown and
mainstream media will frown uponcreatine, even though it is the
most studied amino acidingredient out there bar none.
People will say, oh, you'll getliver or kidney stress, because
that's happened, I think, in abaseball player 25 years ago but
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they were dehydrated.
That probably took 25 grams aday or something grams, and they
were dehydrated yeah, a lot ofpeople back then were loading as
well, where there's taking 20grams a day.
You don't need to do that.
You you know, at the end of 28days studies have shown you
still reach the same saturationpoint, so you can just take a
maintenance dose daily which isfive, five milligrams yeah, be
five, five milligrams in this.
(42:46):
Uh, well, five grams, uh liketwice a day for the active
person.
Yeah, five grams, uh, twice aday for the active person.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Uh, ours is a microdose, so it's two grams
twice a day, okay, wow, yeah,interesting stuff that's I mean
you think of, uh, you know I'm56 now almost 57, and you think
of it.
You know I'm 56, now almost 57.
And you think about the thingsthat are starting to be
important to me.
Once I heard about that a yearago.
I'm like, oh man, I'm takingthat double the dose.
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I've done it.
I just like why wouldn't you?
And if you're doing some sortof weight training and it
protects your brain and it'scheap and it's everybody should
say I cheap and it's Everybodyshould take it.
I mean, this is something thatshould be out there, and I just
don't hear much about it at all.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
Okay, what else, Chris?
This is fantastic.
Speaker 2 (43:35):
We got immuno-IgG.
If you want to look at that,because we're talking about the
brain Now I spent like six weeksin a clinic in Oldsmar, florida
, with a gentleman called DrSpanaug and he is a brain
specialist.
You know he looks at the brainwhen people have had mold
toxicity, lyme disease etc.
And the one thing that healways used to say to me is that
(43:58):
the gut is the first brain.
You know, a lot of doctors willsay it's the second brain, but
he was like no, it's the firstbrain, will say it's a second
brain, but he was like no, it'sthe first brain.
Because one of the reasons Isaid, this pro, pro-inflammatory
response that a lot of uspeople gives to our guts can
lead to that chemical imbalancein the brain.
Now if we're consumingartificial sugars, colors,
(44:18):
glyphosate, pesticides,herbicides, heavy metals, all
this crap trans, then we'recausing like some type of gut
dysbiosis.
We're, you know, we're screwingup the integrity of our gut
microbiome.
So I came out with this product, immuno-igg, and a white paper
has just been put out last weekactually showing the superiority
(44:42):
of Immuno-IgG over colostrum.
Colostrum is great, there's nodoubt about it, but you only
have about 55% 58% ofimmunoglobulins.
This is double that, andimmunoglobulins are the part
that helps with the healing ofyour gut and feeding your gut
microbiome with good bacteria.
Speaker 1 (45:01):
So, for everyone listening, igg immunoglobulin is
what it stands for, and so thisis all about protecting that,
assuming the gut, yeah.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
So a lot of people, as I've said, you know, if
they've had a past of like,maybe they did a course of
antibiotics, or a courses ofantibiotics that will screw up
the gut microbiome, or theartificial sweeteners, whatever
it may be.
So a lot of people have dealtwith some type of problem with
digestion or bloatedness, youknow.
They just don't feel good.
They think it's glutenintolerance or whatever it may
(45:32):
be.
We have found that when peoplehave started taking immuno IgG
for about two to four weeks,they notice a complete heal in
their gut issues that they weredealing with before.
Wow, yeah, and remember, a lotof our hormones are created in
the gut as well.
So you know, we know thattestosterone levels have been
decreasing year after year.
(45:53):
They've even lowered thestandard of it, you know, would
you believe it just a few yearsago?
And you know it's no wonderthat we're eating a really,
really bad diet, we're sleepinglate, we're exposed to so much
more stress, so of coursesomething's going to give, and
testosterone is usually thenumber one.
Speaker 1 (46:10):
Wow, fantastic.
Any of the other ones therebefore I ask you the next kind
of topic here.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
There's a few supplements here, but we can
move on if you want.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
I don't want to miss anything, Chris.
Speaker 2 (46:22):
I've got you here for this podcast.
Speaker 1 (46:24):
We'll go to BH2K, you've got the damn world expert
on all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
So BH2K, so this stands for Be Harder to Kill.
That's kind of my slogan, Ilove that.
Speaker 1 (46:35):
Be Harder to Kill.
Be Harder to Kill.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
BH2K.
I love it.
We should all be harder to kill.
So this doesn't have anycaffeine.
None of my products do, becauseI don't want to have that
cortisol spike.
What we do have is what's ametabolite of caffeine called
parazanthin.
So my friend and biochemist isknown as the world's leading
(46:57):
formulator was able to extractand isolate this metabolite and
it gives you more of a euphoricfeeling.
It doesn't have any of thenegatives of caffeine being slow
.
It's got very short half-lifeof about three hours.
You could literally take itbefore bed and you can sleep.
You know it's it's, it's crazy,but you have this euphoric
(47:18):
feeling like you want to workout, you want to hit the gym,
you want to do something youknow.
So that is the main ingredientthat we have in that.
We have like cogni, iq, whichhelps with cognition.
We've got several likenootropic ingredients in there,
because I always tell people ifI'm looking at the physique,
it's usually the transformationcomes from above.
So you need to be focused, youneed to be on points you know,
(47:41):
you need to have that memoryrecall and, uh, reactive.
Reactive points need to bequicker as we get a little bit
older as well.
So I made sure that we put alot of focus into the nootropic
aspect as well.
And then we have thebeta-alanine, the citrine that
helps with the pump and lowerthe lactate acid buildup, so you
can push endurance a little bitmore as well.
(48:02):
So yeah, it's a pretty stackedformula.
Again, no artificial anythingin them.
Speaker 1 (48:08):
And talk about a name there buddy, Be harder to kill.
How can you go wrong if you'retaking a little bit of that
every morning?
I love it.
Talk a little more aboutanti-aging, because I know I
read somewhere that yourbiological age you're big into
calculating that and what is itfor you 26, 26.
Speaker 2 (48:28):
I'm chronologically 50, but my biological is 26.
When I first had it tested,2014, I was two years older
biologically than I waschronologically.
So I've been able to reduce ityear by year, and I think the
biggest part has been focusingon my sleep, because up until
that point, I wasn't sleeping.
You know, I was one of thoseentrepreneurs burning a candle
(48:50):
at both ends.
You know, thinking, yeah,sleeping's for wimps, I'm still
going to outwork you, I'm stillgoing to out train you.
It was just egotistical, but assoon as I started to focus on
that, that helped.
You know.
I got rid of a lot of the metalthat was in my mouth implants,
fillings, etc.
So you know that can act like aneurotoxin and cause stress to
the body as well.
I had all that taken out.
(49:11):
And then you know what, focusingon meditation and stress, you
know, really bringing myselfdown to be a little bit more
present, as opposed to stressingabout the future, worrying
about the past, about the past,and just really focusing on, you
know, being in aparasympathetic state, as
opposed to that sympathetic,dominant, dopamine filled state
that I, that I fed myself on forso many years.
(49:33):
And then, like I said, you knowcontrolling light, looking at
the sources of the ingredientsthat I'm consuming, and then you
know I have done some otherthings, like stem cells.
I'm sure that helped and thatcontributed to the reduction of
my biological age too.
Tell us a little bit more aboutthat.
Stem cells yeah, so I had setstem cells first in 2017.
(49:54):
I was getting ready for anIronman and you know I was
having problems in the swim.
I was basically, if I didn'thave a line to follow, I'd be
swimming to the right all thetime and I knew that I'd torn a
couple of muscles in my shoulder, so had stem cells put in there
to help with the healing ofthat, and it was just absolutely
(50:15):
life-changing you know ithelped everywhere my, my knees,
my elbows, everything.
It was just, it was crazy.
I felt like a teenager againand I had to fly to the first
time I went to Colombia.
The last two times 2020 and2024, I went to Mexico.
It's a place called CPIInstitute.
(50:37):
They're the sponsors of the UFCnow, so all the UFC guys go
down there.
Absolutely phenomenal facilityand that's been life-changing
Like.
I tore 68% of my tricep off thebone a few years ago
snowboarding man.
It just healed.
So good, so good, and I'llprobably go there every couple
(50:58):
of years because I have no, no,I'm not going to slow down
anytime soon.
Speaker 1 (51:05):
You mentioned hyperbaric oxygen.
Yeah, I'm involved with aclinic that treats um ptsd
traumatic brain injury andveterans great for that and we
have a two.
We we just built a world-classfacility in southeast boise.
I'd love to show it to yousometime.
That's two chambers um eightperson chambers.
Oh wow.
And then our protocol is divingthese vets um 40 days, two dives
(51:30):
a day, an hour, each time at1.8 atmospheres.
Yeah, but we just had our firstcohort go through, chris, and
it's it, was it.
Honestly, I think about itgives me chills, it's it.
It's so effective, um, it justis.
And so, um, when you see whatit does for these folks in a
(51:51):
relatively short period of timeas far as kind of a reset and
regeneration of of you know it'sgot to be just like it does for
tissue for your brain and your,your and your nerve endings and
everything but where, when itwhere does it fit in your
anti-aging kind of fitness side?
Because I'm more familiar withkind of the treatment of PTSD
(52:12):
and traumatic brain injury.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
So I've used it extensively,especially after like surgery or
stem cells, because it'll helpproliferate and stabilize stem
cells as well.
So I think it's absolutelyphenomenal for healing.
There's no doubt about it, andI also have some athletes that
are football players, motocrossriders, boxers or MMA fighters
(52:40):
where they're dealing with a lotof trauma to their head, but
they're not going to slow down,they're not going to stop.
So HBOT is definitely a part ofthat protocol.
I just wish more and morepeople knew about it, because
not many people know about itthat are participating in, like
Boise State, for instance, in alot of these sports where
they're just you know, they'recoming into contact or they're
(53:03):
in a contact sport and they knownothing about the benefits of
like hyperbaric oxygen or goingon a keto diet, on how that can
actually help the brain.
Speaker 1 (53:11):
Yeah, well, that's, that's incredible.
I can't believe our hours up.
Um what?
Where can we learn more of ofyou?
What would like?
I know you have a book out,right, um tell us a little bit
more.
Speaker 2 (53:27):
Do you have a website that has all of your
information?
I've got so many differentsites.
I've got a gym site, I've gotthe supplement sites, I've got a
small personal site.
Anyway, it's best to just go tomy Instagram and try to find
everything from there.
Speaker 1 (53:40):
What's your Instagram ?
Speaker 2 (53:41):
It's at K-R-I-S Gethin, g-e-t-h-i N oh there it
is.
Speaker 1 (53:47):
This is great.
Well, I mean, and your boy,your well, finish on this.
How did you, how did you end upin Boise?
Speaker 2 (53:55):
So I got the job opportunity of being editor in
chief of bodybuildcom in 2007.
That's when you know it wasn'treally that old.
I think there was only like 30of us in the office back then.
So that's why I moved hereoriginally.
And then when Ryan DeLuca leftthe company, I kind of thought,
well, I'm leaving too, becauseyou know he's a good friend of
(54:16):
mine.
And that's when I become avendor with bodybuildcom with my
first supplement company andwe're about to introduce that to
this company with Unmatched.
But I've absolutely fallen inlove with Boise.
You know I love the fourseasons.
I love taking advantage of thewinter and summer, sports, the
camping, the mountain biking, soit's a perfect spot for me.
(54:36):
My hair grows back every time Icome back.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
Well, hey, this was amazing.
I really appreciate you takingthe time to be here.
Speaker 2 (54:43):
I appreciate it too, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
With your international travel and all
your speaking stuff, and I knowa lot of people are going to get
a lot out of this and hopefullyget a lot healthier.
Let's hope so.
Thank you, my friend.
I appreciate it.
Thank you, thanks everybody.
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