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The NRL 360 panel are joined by Phil 'Buzz' Rothfield and Brent Read to discuss the continued breaking mixed reports regarding the future of current Manly captain, Daly Cherry-Evans. The boys also touch on the antics on Reed Mahoney and if he is a liability to the Bulldogs.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Welcome to Win three sixty League from every angle, brought
to you by the new Ranger Plugging Higher're joining me
the Great Gordon tell Us, that's been the journal Australian Buzz.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Rod Field and Brent Ree. We've got a huge show
coming up.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
We're going to talk all things DC of course, and
the mainly seals and the reaction from that. We've got
Andrew Abdo on for our heavy Hitters segment. We're even
going to touch on the Paramatta eels are zero from four.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
But we've got breaking news, Buzz, what have you got
for us?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, big story break.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Late this afternoon, the NRL have been stung into action
after a wild weekend too much for our play in
their opinion, an email from Graham Andersin there's the back
page of the Telegraph tomorrow. Graham Andersley has emailed all
seventeen clubs this afternoon, late this afternoon and said that
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from here on high tackles will be instant Sinbin and
they have found four instances from last weekend tackle that
involved Ricky from the Broncos, Blue Way from the West Tigers,
Mannie the shot on the ground and Gilbert they've identified
(01:11):
days said the referees and the bunker got them all wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
So they are meaning they got it wrong.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
There are meaning that all four of these should have
been sent for ten minutes in the bin.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
And Gordy, what do you think.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
As soft as the tackles are, I like it just
to protect the ball carry. I always say, if you're
running the ball, you should have no fear that your
head is ever going to get hit. So I like
the rules because those tackles actually do haveur.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
What are you screwing your face up? Just read Marney
one thinking there's not too much in that one. To
be honest, I don't think. I don't even know if
you hit him in the head. The other three I
agree with thorough head contact. Yeah, I'm not sure he
should be going there now.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Because Buzz today you were you wrote a big article
back page Daily Telegraph Monday's Buzz and you were saying
that Reid Marney is a liability.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Well, I'm not saying he became a liability with that.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
I think he became a liability last year in a
semi final against Manly when he involved himself an incident
with Reuben Garrett.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
They'll leaning twenty two to ten. It changed the course.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Of the game, and if that hadn't happened, Canterbury would
have advanced.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
It is a shocking incident.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
A player lying on the ground totally unprotected. Understand Marny's
got to get to the scene and stop him from
getting up or whatever.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
See that left arm for arm attack.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Him in the head.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
Buzz.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
If you think that's all right, you'll have no idea.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
Buzz. I acknowledge. I think it's a cheap shot by him,
but I don't think it's as severe as the other three.
And you know what, you agrees with me a Match
Review committee because only gave him a grade one for that.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Well, I tell you who all the others got.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Grade too, So they agree with me that it wasn't
as bad as the other three.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
The Match Review Committee might have put Demitrio and some
new people on that panel.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
They stuffed that up.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I can tell you that.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Top officials at the NRL were absolutely shocked that Reid
Marney is not at least setting out one week for
that really cheap shot.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I'm telling you, I don't listen. I think it was
stupid and silly.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
I don't disagree.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I think I think read further to your point, I
think he's improved this year. I thought last year he
got a bit out of hand, and I from the
outside looking in, I believe that that the dogs have
pulled him up and said that you've got to be
better because it can cost them in big games, like
you said in the semi final, and he did do
it too often last year. I think he's improved. This
incident right here, I yeah, stupid. Shouldn't have done it.
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It was he called it, some people calling it a
dog act, but I didn't think it was actually that bad.
Speaker 7 (03:53):
With you, I think, look, I think it's in the rules.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
The only thing is that he'd gotten contact with it
is because otherwise it's a voluntary tackle.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
We might as well all give up.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
No no, no, no, you can't. You should have got
him in the head. But you're allowed to dive on someone.
If they're laying there, it's their job to get up
and try to actually think.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
About the bus.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
It's about time some senior players in our game called
out what Reid Marney did the other night.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
This game is tough enough.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
And we get all that hard. We're not saying he's
shown well.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
They put a kick in the corner then and the
wing he just dives on it and sits there where
if you've put a great chase and you should be
allowed to drive him back in the goal.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Confusing the two points. No one's disputing that's the cheap shot,
that's unnecessary. It's not he.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Should unnecessary contact with the head.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
But the contact of the head in that case is minimal, minimal.
You went on the receiving at it's a great world
because the contact was a bit of all. As opposed,
I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
To you that the Match Review Committee got it hopelessly wrong.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Well, there wasn't just read money. There was a number
of incidents. So let's check out actually the memo if
we can get it up. I want to have a
look at the memo that was sent to the clubs today. Now,
on four occasions, I'll skip the first bit and i'll
get to the main point. On four occasions, the symbim
was not used used for incidents involving direct force of
contact with the headneck of opponents. The lack of appropriate
on field action in these cases should not be seen
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as a precedent for future similar incidents.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So they are taking accountability here, the NERL and they
have got it wrong, But.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Whose fault is it? Like this is a pretty big admission.
We don't see the Nterrol do this too often.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I'm really praised and I applaud them for it because
I've been banging on all weekend about lack of transparency,
in the fact they bilished Graham Ansley's Monday briefing, They've
stopped announcing whose referee in games each week, They've gagged
all the coaches that they've come out today and said, look,
our officials this weekend weren't good enough. They're not koalas.
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We're not going to protect them any long ago.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Is that what they said?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Well, they didn't use those words, but I'm saying they're
not species, they're.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
No longer a protected but just okay, and.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Good on them for doing it.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I rate it.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I think it's great by the But you know when players,
when we don't play well, or if we don't perform
well on the show and we're not doing our job,
we normally pay the price for that. Is that going
to be the case with the referees and officials?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Will they be still down? Is they going to be told?
Speaker 4 (06:25):
When I'm told and I spoke wready about this this
half and when we followed, the story is that at
least two referees will be stilled down this week over
lack of action.
Speaker 7 (06:37):
Were they all penalties? They were?
Speaker 4 (06:43):
And that's the problem, guys, And we speak about all
the time.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
You're consistency some games.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
It's been immediately, but they are all different referees, right,
But the one thing that should be consistent is the bunker.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Well, the bunker's coming on all them, Gordy, I think
that's a that's a album for both the bunker and
the referee on the field. I mean, the referee in
the field in the first instance has seen that, but
when they send it to the bunker or the bunker
of reviews it, the bunker's in a position to dictate
whether that's a sinding or not, and they haven't. So
I actually put more blame on the bunker because they.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
They are supposed to be a security bunket for the referees.
Speaker 7 (07:20):
You know, it's it's quick.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
The rest are going to make mistakes.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
So when you got the high definition, the four K,
the stop frame three of three, you're entitled.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
To get it right, bleedingly of it. You're really passionate.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I really am.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
I hate instance like the Marny one, and I want
to say something about Read Marnie, and I mean this.
I think he's a very very good bloke. He's a
decent human being. When Talakai got knocked out the other day,
the first man to go and check on make sure
he's okay was Read Marnie. I bumped him in a
restaurant in the gold Coase last year at Kira came
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over to the table.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
He started chatting.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
A more decent, polite young man you would not meet.
And something that happens when he runs onto that football
field triggers white line fever. You know what, And I
know even you guys can say whatever you want. I
know there is concern that you.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Said it.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
You said it last year as well. There is concern
stepping the market at some stage.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
We spoke about it on the MS. He would have
got under my skin. So is he putting me off
my game? So that's the balance between Reid Marney getting
the opposition off there off their game. But just as
long as he doesn't penalize outside by giving away too
many penalties.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Exactly right, And you're not wrong in what you're saying,
But you know sometimes with footy players, Mick inn this
was a bit like it himself, Like it actually brings
the best out of you with your performances.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
That's the way he can play. It's your style.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I'm not saying. I'm not saying you would have you
missing the point. You're missing the point. He's a nigga, right,
he gets under this. Does he takes it wrong?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
With that? He takes allowed you are? Do you want
to host this shad?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Do you want to swap seats?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
You've got your own podcast now you're taking out of
the world. You can't anyway.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, So, like I get it right, but sometimes there's
certain players that play a certain way. Definitely needs to
pull it in and ruin in because it's going to end.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Up impacting his team.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
So and the Bulldogs know that because I think they've
been onto him in the in the in the off season.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
On the weekend wasn't good enough.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
So I think you're right, But also you know, you
don't want to just throw him, you know into the Fire's.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Genuine niggle is is gunsmanship and and you do try
and roll your opponent every night because we've been acting
like a judiciary to night let's keep going.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Time for the armchair rulings. Do we agree with the
Moses Leota try or no? Try against the south side
Rabbit is a very critical moment in this game. They
were coming on fast. A lot of people believe this
was a try.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
This was a de I mean, I can't believe anyone. Well,
there's no separation.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Sitting on the couch watching it with the kids. I
thought he loses it to the side.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
But I don't think. I don't think it leaves his arm.
I think it's a dead set. Try. Try.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Every day of the week, you're saying try, yes, definitely try.
I think a problem the game has at the moment.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
To speed the process up, they're making discounts.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Try.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
Gordy, No, it wasn't. I didn't read about it.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
I'm not, but can you let me opinion to speak
the process up, which we all wanted. With the Bunker,
they were painfully slow. I think they've looked at this too.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Let's have a look at this one. This is this
is the one. Let's see if he gets this, we're
going back to the other one.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
They Dad said, looked at this so many times. I
can't see how they could not have given this a try.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Well, you know why because they went up and they
had to.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
And again we know that if they go up, no try,
there has to be no doubt whatsoever. This is this angle.
He might show a little bit better. Let's see, I
there's any separate we're going back and they're.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Not loving me in there.
Speaker 7 (11:05):
It just looks like the bounds.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
That's when you see that when fifty.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
Watch it, watch handle the ball, handle the ball, hand
on the ball, handle.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
The ball, and you know what, you know it's a
bad carry.
Speaker 7 (11:28):
He didn't have his stomach around the ball.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Guys with this position here, referees go upstairs because they
don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
That's why they're going up there. But so you can't blindly.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Support them just because they've said no try that they
really don't know.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
And that's when remember when they'd send it up and
we say we'll make a decision, you've got to give
your opinion. So when they're happy with what we want,
because when they send it up, we go is it
a try?
Speaker 7 (11:57):
And they've got to send it up there with their opinion.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
I was happy that they got he I was happy
with them. If they had no idea send it up
to the video. It didn't lose in the game, are
you right? But it should have been.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
What about Cobo's foot on the line? This was another
according thoughts on this one was and look right there,
that's a shocker.
Speaker 7 (12:22):
What I can understand touching it, I can understand. I
could understand that a pair of white nikes. But when
he's got the bright orange.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
You know that touch charge I direct, It'll be one
of the two is going again.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
At least you know that.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
The score I think at that stage was ten eight
or twelve eight.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
It was close.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
They get to set a six on the line, the
Dolphins could have scored. Broncos get the ball and go
up the other end score.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
It's a game changing blunder. Mysterious. He was looking right,
he was Josh.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
He only fined for touching the referee. What was our
thoughts on the one.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
I'm surprised by this break. I think that that warrants
the suspension. You cannot touch referee the same God and
you cannot touch referee.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
I know what you're saying, but sometimes you.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
Don't touch referees. I know he didn't mean that it
was me nasty or he wasn't being but what do
you want to happen from that. Give him a week
if you want to give him a week, can't do that.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
What did he say, I cannot touch? What did he say?
Did he say, I'm sorry, sir, sorry mate?
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Well clearly didn't you.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Know what a concerning act letter? Nothing else concerning Well,
that's what.
Speaker 7 (13:35):
It looks like. He said.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
You want him kicked out of the game for nothing.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Let's be you can't look at take every instance for
what it is. Look look at what he's look at
him walking up to Come on.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
I don't care referees. I'm sorry, but you can't touch
the referee.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
You're having a bad shoud.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
You are having bad I don't agree with you. Please?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Who's getting the daily endpoints of the moment?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
My god, he's a miling pro.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
The DCE drama has exploded, with the manly Skipper calling
out what he described as a smear campaign design to
bring him down, just moments after their inspirational win over
the Heels. Dalley Cherry Evans lit the fuse and then
stood back big Day to day, it's hard to avoid
this one with DC the two minutes to talk of
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the town. But it is his first game. How will
he play how will the crowd respond? Much anticipation about.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
This watch and listen to the welcome for Manly and
DCEE at.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
The head of the queue in game number three, one
hundred and thirty three.
Speaker 8 (14:44):
Honestly, I was really emotional today when I heard the
Hill supporting me. The reception I got today, it made
me really proud to be the captain of Manley.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
The one thing that I see a challenge for Daily
and Manley is the next four to six weeks because
this story is not going to go away.
Speaker 8 (15:00):
Get this decision isn't going to make everyone happy, and
I've owned that from the start. But I feel like
it could have ended pretty quickly early in the week,
but it obviously didn't, which means conversations were continuing to
happen outside of the ones happening between the club and I.
So that's where I felt like I got a bit nasty.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
And a bit ugly.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
Whereas coming from.
Speaker 8 (15:19):
I know who it's coming from and it's not appropriate
to talk about it. You guys obviously know where it's
coming from as well, But I'm old enough and big
enough to handle it.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
And I asked you, do you think the media has
been bed stuff to rot.
Speaker 8 (15:31):
Yeah, by whom I'm not sure, or maybe I am.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
Then I'm not telling.
Speaker 8 (15:36):
Do you have a time one when you expect it?
I don't know what's going to annoy is. I'm really
sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
I really am.
Speaker 8 (15:42):
That's where the part I understand circulation is going to continue.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
But I hope you can understand.
Speaker 8 (15:47):
That's why I've given the club time to move on
in their direction and then it will allow me freedom
to do my thing in the background. So that's why
it is the way it is. I can take my time.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
What a week it was last week for the mainly
seageles in their main man Dally Cherry Evans, and he handed.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
It with all class on the field even before the game.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Interviewed him live on the Sunday Ticket and it was
very graceful of him to give us his time considering
the circumstances. Then he's gone out there and played how
we expected him to play, well, how I expected him
to play. Great win for the manly Seagulls. But then
holds that press conference. Well, he does the press conference
after the match and says that there is a smear
campaign against him and directed it at someone who is
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he directing it at well, I.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
Think we all suspect he's directing it at the CEO,
Tony Mestrov. I think that's the assumption. Assumption most of
us are made, and there's obviously a split in that club.
They've talked about no animosity from the start, and clearly
Day had plenty of animosity. That became pretty clear after
that game because he made a point of raising that
whole concept of the smear campaign. He mentioned it on
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radio interviews straight after the game. He mentioned the press
conference he mentioned on Fox. I mean, he wanted to
make it pretty clear that he wasn't happy with the
events of the week. And you know, I think all
of us to shoot that he's referring to Tony.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
He was referring to Tony Meschov. But I do want
to say this, I don't think he smeared him at all.
Do what he did, and we just held the story up.
He lied to me, Tony Meschov understandably to protect Dally
Cherry Evans. I rang him two weeks ago and I said, MESSI,
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there's a lot of mail around the Cherry Evans and
you are going to part company at the end of
the year. And we now know that the deal was
done in December last year. He said to me when
I rang him, and I said, mate, you told me
everything was sweet, you know, and everything he said I
had to, He said, I gave Cherry Evans my word
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that this would stay in the vault until we're all
comfortable about a release and letting the fans know. He said, quite.
I just couldn't dog him, was the words he used
to me.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
And you know what I said, not do a press
conference with the team, because then it wouldn't be if
they both sat there.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Yeah, but just let me finish this, he I think,
Mestrov and where you don't like being lied to, Mestrov
did the honorable thing by Cherry Evans, who has accused
him of this smear campaign, by protecting him. He was
concerned about the effect on the football team after a
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bright start. He was concerned and he might have misread
it now of the fan backlash. We didn't know if
Che's was going to get burned yesterday or not, which
he didn't.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
So the smear campaign is news to me.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
I think he was naive, dully, or at least his
camp were buzzed when they spoke abou Dully said, I
thought I'd fund up, talk about it and will be
gone within a couple of days. And I think that
was just naive because the club was always going to respond,
because the club had to defend itself in that situation,
and that's what led to some of the stories that
came out. So, you know, I appreciate Daly maybe thought
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that he could he could front the media that was
never going to happen and it'll be over. But whoever
was telling him that was what would happen was completely
naive about the way the media works.
Speaker 7 (19:13):
I've got a bit of sense that his manager's ringing
anybody that'll listen.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
I know a couple of journeys who are quite powerful
figures who have received very good briefings from the Cherry
Evans camp.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
To make sure they're okay, that's okay.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
But I'm just saying, this little pr game is coming
from both sides.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Is it actually is?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
And I think, you know, they're kind of accused of
us of defending the club. And then there's, like you said,
there's other journalists that are in the in the DC
camp and but but that brings me back to this,
what is the actual smear though, What is he What
is he not happy about? With Mestrov? There has to
be something is it? Does it date back a long time?
Has it just had and over the negotiations?
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Well?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Why is it? Why has it gotten so bad?
Speaker 6 (20:03):
I mean, there's a couple's some stories that came out
during the week break that I'm sure he was not
happy about. One was that he asked for a release.
I think it was the start of twenty twenty four,
which hadn't come out before. As far as it's fact,
as far.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
That's true, if he asked for a release, how is
it a smear campaign?
Speaker 6 (20:17):
Well, that's his view, it's a smear kit, and I
think most people the other one was, Well, the other
one was it's about money. You know, this was this
perception that's come out that his camp wanted a million,
a million, wine, a million two for him to stay there.
And I think there's a perception, maybe from Daily at least,
that it got painted as though this was maybe about money. Now,
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you know, someone tried to tell me today that Cherry's
camp never discussed money with Manly. That's ridiculous. What agent
or agency doesn't talk to a club about what sort
of part figure that the player's worth, isn't it That's
the first one I would have thought it was, so
how many years and how much money it's It was
naive to think the club wouldn't defend its of this
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week because I think they had to because the supporters
wanted answers. I'm sure there's sponsors wanted answers about how
this happened. They had to get on the front foot
and they had to explain what happened, and in a
way that's potentially reflected badly on dailier times.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Now, they got the win, and they did it with
their in crews control. Great win, especially given the circumstances.
We know that, but moving forward, with this animosity still
brewing at the club and we're talking about a captain
and the CEO, there's still concerns that they.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Could be derailed at some point.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
DC needs to take you senior players out and have
a beer in a steak and talk to him because
the way Jake's like the loudest voice through the whole
week was me is Jacob, Well, I wouldn't do it,
and then like he come, And that's the stake And
if you're going to put anybody up on a pedestal
at Manly.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
Over the last ten years, it's Jake Tavoievitch.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
No one would ever say a bad word about him,
and it's like he is the man. He is the
Steve Mensis of that organization. So when he come out,
I think that's the loudest voice and he needs to
get him back on side.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Want to give you another example of Jake's brother Tom,
And look, I haven't spoken to Tom for some time,
but I just wanted to bring up when he was
crooked last year and or the year before, missed a
number of games. You know, the logo meant to him
and the club and the team. He felt that uncomfortable.
He went to Mestrov and he went to Penn and
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say take my contract money back. He offered up about
four hundred thousand dollars back to the club.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Because and you know what.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
It just shows in this climate when we've got to
stink about whether seven fifty million. I just wanted people
to know what that jersey means to the.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Trouble of its brothers. It's not for money, because I
come to work for money. Everybody goes to do their
job for money.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
The different people, right I mean Daly's always been and
people close to Dalla will tell you Daly's priority in
his football career is to set up his family and
set up set himself up right for life after footy.
Whilst the Druivits boys. I think the other part they've
grown up with the football club. It means everything to them,
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so they coming it from I understand they're coming from
different angles. And I'm not going to criticize Daily for
doing what's best for him because I said Dylan Brown
should take the money and offer a Newcastle, so I'm
not going to criticize him for that, but I just
think the way he handled it, I think later in
life he'll regret the way this week's played out.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, I think they're like going back to that point
about that announcement, Like I still can't believe that they
would think the team around DC and DC himself that
he could make that announcement on TV and think that
it wasn't going to be a big deal, it was
going to go away.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
It only made it God and make the best point
he should have had a club. Parlo one, Mestra, Sea
Bowlt and Pen been sitting at a long desh.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
After ten years and the money that you've got with
that relationship, and it's not fifteen years we're going.
Speaker 7 (24:07):
To and it's hard to do. Buzz.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
I'm sitting here as a fifty year old. But sometimes
it's not the CEO, it's the club. It's the many organization.
What nineteen forty seven it started. That's who you represent.
You don't represent the CEO or the owner. That's who
you run out for. You run out for all the
past players and every manly fan that's ever gone to
support this great team. And that's who you go and
you talk to. And it's hard to put that cap on.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
All right.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
The battle is on still to security services for next
year and beyond.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Now.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
The big news last week in regards to that was
Bulldogs pulling out of the race. Gus called saying that
they are not. Are you sure? Do you think you
know the great gas?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
You know?
Speaker 4 (24:48):
He said about eight weeks ago they're pulling out a
big LEO Thompson from Newcastle.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
But the deal might have been done, but he said
he was probably out.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Three weeks later he signed I believe us. Then I've
dealt with Gusts for a long period of time.
Speaker 7 (25:05):
Back on the bus, you're buying.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
I'm on the bus with that football sensation. I don't
have a problem with Gus at all.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
But you say, but you're saying that you don't want
too so you're going to.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Attack me now that was attacking Los Gus for sneaks.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Are you're going to be You're going to He's the
out of the race. So do you know I just
explained you're saying it's a fiver. I'm not saying it's
a fever. You're saying I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
He often does strange things to throw other parties off.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
You haven't answer what you're saying. But what do you
think I don't need to choose? What are you obsessed
with that? Because it's all the one in kit through
and holidays in his house?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
You want that withdraw a defamation.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I did not stay it. It's okay if you did.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
It's a nice place, so I'll send you my air
B and B.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I think it's going to come down to the Roosters
and Red Cliff.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
That's my belief.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Do you guys agree with that?
Speaker 6 (26:01):
Have you heard anything on that?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Buzz?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
I agree, But I think the roosters are a lot
of on favorites.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
And Bulldogs aren't out of the race.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Well, I'm just saying I believe the Bulldogs pulled out
of the race because they thought the Rusters had already
secured his services.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
That's what I believe in it.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Who knows they may come back into it if this
drags on, because DC is saying that he's not going
to make a decision anytime, anytime soon. But this brings
me to you ready surely like he can't drag this
on all year. He can't not make a decision, or
well he can, but it's going to impact when no
one's going to stop talking about it.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
Well yeah, well, well it'll be a constant debate and
discussion point about where he's going to end up. But
you know, the obviously there's the russ and Dolphins in
the mix. They've got to keep money aside from, which
makes every team can't just keep a mind dollars aside
for him, which makes the recruitment difficult moving forward unless
they know. Unless one of them knows it's in their direction,
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you'd be happy to do it, but it makes it
really difficult if you want to keep a million dollars
a side with Daly for next year. That's really difficult
in the current environment unless you're going to move players
at the end of the year to fit him in,
which is the other option for those clubs. But they
both got money up their sleeve. Break We know that
RWIS has kept money for Joey Marnhu. The Dolphins got
money aside as well, so they do have money at
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the moment.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
But and there's no harves on the market as such
of that quality, so they but not that quality. Now,
he's not that easy good player. It's not that and
he probably doesn't demand one point one.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
And just back to that, I got told today confirmation
how early Manly knew that Manly made their first approach
too late last year.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Really so this hasn't been a reaction.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
He could contribute to this.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
But this is this is the thing we're all kind
of saying, the club here, the player there, if they
contacted Fog, you all had a conversation when you all
had eyes on Fog and he at that point and
Dalishair Evans Camp gets wind of that, that that that
could also be a reason why we are where we
are here and why he's so pissed off now.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
But DC, he said to him I'm not staying. I'm
going after DC after that last year.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Yeah, well they had to have a place, They had
a right when he asked for a release.
Speaker 7 (28:19):
Seriously, like Timmins that didn't want to be there, all right.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Stick around journoes.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
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Speaker 2 (28:32):
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Welcome to Win three sixty League from every angle, brought
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Rod Field and Brent Ree. We've got a huge show
coming up.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
We're going to talk all things DC of course, and
the mainly seals and the reaction from that. We've got
Andrew Abdo on for our heavy Hitters segment. We're even
going to touch on the Paramatta eels are zero from four.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
But we've got breaking news, Buzz, what have you got
for us?
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, big story break.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
Late this afternoon, the NRL have been stung into action
after a wild weekend too much for our play in
their opinion, an email from Graham Andersin there's the back
page of the Telegraph tomorrow. Graham Andersley has emailed all
seventeen clubs this afternoon, late this afternoon and said that
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from here on high tackles will be instant Sinbin and
they have found four instances from last weekend tackle that
involved Ricky from the Broncos, Blue Way from the West Tigers,
Mannie the shot on the ground and Gilbert they've identified
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days said the referees and the bunker got them all wrong.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
So they are meaning they got it wrong.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
There are meaning that all four of these should have
been sent for ten minutes in the bin.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
And Gordy, what do you think.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
As soft as the tackles are, I like it just
to protect the ball carry. I always say, if you're
running the ball, you should have no fear that your
head is ever going to get hit. So I like
the rules because those tackles actually do haveur.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
What are you screwing your face up? Just read Marney
one thinking there's not too much in that one. To
be honest, I don't think. I don't even know if
you hit him in the head. The other three I
agree with thorough head contact. Yeah, I'm not sure he
should be going there now.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Because Buzz today you were you wrote a big article
back page Daily Telegraph Monday's Buzz and you were saying
that Reid Marney is a liability.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Well, I'm not saying he became a liability with that.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
I think he became a liability last year in a
semi final against Manly when he involved himself an incident
with Reuben Garrett.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
They'll leaning twenty two to ten. It changed the course.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Of the game, and if that hadn't happened, Canterbury would
have advanced.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
It is a shocking incident.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
A player lying on the ground totally unprotected. Understand Marny's
got to get to the scene and stop him from
getting up or whatever.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
See that left arm for arm attack.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Him in the head.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
Buzz.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
If you think that's all right, you'll have no idea.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
Buzz. I acknowledge. I think it's a cheap shot by him,
but I don't think it's as severe as the other three.
And you know what, you agrees with me a Match
Review committee because only gave him a grade one for that.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Well, I tell you who all the others got.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Grade too, So they agree with me that it wasn't
as bad as the other three.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
The Match Review Committee might have put Demitrio and some
new people on that panel.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
They stuffed that up.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I can tell you that.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Top officials at the NRL were absolutely shocked that Reid
Marney is not at least setting out one week for
that really cheap shot.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I'm telling you, I don't listen. I think it was
stupid and silly.
Speaker 6 (03:23):
I don't disagree.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I think I think read further to your point, I
think he's improved this year. I thought last year he
got a bit out of hand, and I from the
outside looking in, I believe that that the dogs have
pulled him up and said that you've got to be
better because it can cost them in big games, like
you said in the semi final, and he did do
it too often last year. I think he's improved. This
incident right here, I yeah, stupid. Shouldn't have done it.
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It was he called it, some people calling it a
dog act, but I didn't think it was actually that bad.
Speaker 7 (03:53):
With you, I think, look, I think it's in the rules.
Speaker 5 (03:57):
The only thing is that he'd gotten contact with it
is because otherwise it's a voluntary tackle.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
We might as well all give up.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
No no, no, no, you can't. You should have got
him in the head. But you're allowed to dive on someone.
If they're laying there, it's their job to get up
and try to actually think.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
About the bus.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
It's about time some senior players in our game called
out what Reid Marney did the other night.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
This game is tough enough.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
And we get all that hard. We're not saying he's
shown well.
Speaker 5 (04:27):
They put a kick in the corner then and the
wing he just dives on it and sits there where
if you've put a great chase and you should be
allowed to drive him back in the goal.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Confusing the two points. No one's disputing that's the cheap shot,
that's unnecessary. It's not he.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
Should unnecessary contact with the head.
Speaker 6 (04:45):
But the contact of the head in that case is minimal, minimal.
You went on the receiving at it's a great world
because the contact was a bit of all. As opposed,
I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
To you that the Match Review Committee got it hopelessly wrong.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Well, there wasn't just read money. There was a number
of incidents. So let's check out actually the memo if
we can get it up. I want to have a
look at the memo that was sent to the clubs today. Now,
on four occasions, I'll skip the first bit and i'll
get to the main point. On four occasions, the symbim
was not used used for incidents involving direct force of
contact with the headneck of opponents. The lack of appropriate
on field action in these cases should not be seen
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as a precedent for future similar incidents.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So they are taking accountability here, the NERL and they
have got it wrong, But.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Whose fault is it? Like this is a pretty big admission.
We don't see the Nterrol do this too often.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
I'm really praised and I applaud them for it because
I've been banging on all weekend about lack of transparency,
in the fact they bilished Graham Ansley's Monday briefing, They've
stopped announcing whose referee in games each week, They've gagged
all the coaches that they've come out today and said, look,
our officials this weekend weren't good enough. They're not koalas.
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We're not going to protect them any long ago.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Is that what they said?
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Well, they didn't use those words, but I'm saying they're
not species, they're.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
No longer a protected but just okay, and.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Good on them for doing it.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I rate it.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I think it's great by the But you know when players,
when we don't play well, or if we don't perform
well on the show and we're not doing our job,
we normally pay the price for that. Is that going
to be the case with the referees and officials?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Will they be still down? Is they going to be told?
Speaker 4 (06:25):
When I'm told and I spoke wready about this this
half and when we followed, the story is that at
least two referees will be stilled down this week over
lack of action.
Speaker 7 (06:37):
Were they all penalties? They were?
Speaker 4 (06:43):
And that's the problem, guys, And we speak about all
the time.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
You're consistency some games.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
It's been immediately, but they are all different referees, right,
But the one thing that should be consistent is the bunker.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
Well, the bunker's coming on all them, Gordy, I think
that's a that's a album for both the bunker and
the referee on the field. I mean, the referee in
the field in the first instance has seen that, but
when they send it to the bunker or the bunker
of reviews it, the bunker's in a position to dictate
whether that's a sinding or not, and they haven't. So
I actually put more blame on the bunker because they.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
They are supposed to be a security bunket for the referees.
Speaker 7 (07:20):
You know, it's it's quick.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
The rest are going to make mistakes.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
So when you got the high definition, the four K,
the stop frame three of three, you're entitled.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
To get it right, bleedingly of it. You're really passionate.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I really am.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
I hate instance like the Marny one, and I want
to say something about Read Marnie, and I mean this.
I think he's a very very good bloke. He's a
decent human being. When Talakai got knocked out the other day,
the first man to go and check on make sure
he's okay was Read Marnie. I bumped him in a
restaurant in the gold Coase last year at Kira came
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over to the table.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
He started chatting.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
A more decent, polite young man you would not meet.
And something that happens when he runs onto that football
field triggers white line fever. You know what, And I
know even you guys can say whatever you want. I
know there is concern that you.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Said it.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
You said it last year as well. There is concern
stepping the market at some stage.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
We spoke about it on the MS. He would have
got under my skin. So is he putting me off
my game? So that's the balance between Reid Marney getting
the opposition off there off their game. But just as
long as he doesn't penalize outside by giving away too
many penalties.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Exactly right, And you're not wrong in what you're saying,
But you know sometimes with footy players, Mick inn this
was a bit like it himself, Like it actually brings
the best out of you with your performances.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
That's the way he can play. It's your style.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
I'm not saying. I'm not saying you would have you
missing the point. You're missing the point. He's a nigga, right,
he gets under this. Does he takes it wrong?
Speaker 2 (08:59):
With that? He takes allowed you are? Do you want
to host this shad?
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Do you want to swap seats?
Speaker 2 (09:07):
You've got your own podcast now you're taking out of
the world. You can't anyway.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yeah, So, like I get it right, but sometimes there's
certain players that play a certain way. Definitely needs to
pull it in and ruin in because it's going to end.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Up impacting his team.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
So and the Bulldogs know that because I think they've
been onto him in the in the in the off season.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
On the weekend wasn't good enough.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
So I think you're right, But also you know, you
don't want to just throw him, you know into the Fire's.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Genuine niggle is is gunsmanship and and you do try
and roll your opponent every night because we've been acting
like a judiciary to night let's keep going.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Time for the armchair rulings. Do we agree with the
Moses Leota try or no? Try against the south side
Rabbit is a very critical moment in this game. They
were coming on fast. A lot of people believe this
was a try.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
This was a de I mean, I can't believe anyone. Well,
there's no separation.
Speaker 5 (10:05):
Sitting on the couch watching it with the kids. I
thought he loses it to the side.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
But I don't think. I don't think it leaves his arm.
I think it's a dead set. Try. Try.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Every day of the week, you're saying try, yes, definitely try.
I think a problem the game has at the moment.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
To speed the process up, they're making discounts.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
Try.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
Gordy, No, it wasn't. I didn't read about it.
Speaker 4 (10:32):
I'm not, but can you let me opinion to speak
the process up, which we all wanted. With the Bunker,
they were painfully slow. I think they've looked at this too.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Let's have a look at this one. This is this
is the one. Let's see if he gets this, we're
going back to the other one.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
They Dad said, looked at this so many times. I
can't see how they could not have given this a try.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Well, you know why because they went up and they
had to.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
And again we know that if they go up, no try,
there has to be no doubt whatsoever. This is this angle.
He might show a little bit better. Let's see, I
there's any separate we're going back and they're.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Not loving me in there.
Speaker 7 (11:05):
It just looks like the bounds.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
That's when you see that when fifty.
Speaker 6 (11:16):
Watch it, watch handle the ball, handle the ball, hand
on the ball, handle.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
The ball, and you know what, you know it's a
bad carry.
Speaker 7 (11:28):
He didn't have his stomach around the ball.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Guys with this position here, referees go upstairs because they
don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
That's why they're going up there. But so you can't blindly.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Support them just because they've said no try that they
really don't know.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
And that's when remember when they'd send it up and
we say we'll make a decision, you've got to give
your opinion. So when they're happy with what we want,
because when they send it up, we go is it
a try?
Speaker 7 (11:57):
And they've got to send it up there with their opinion.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
I was happy that they got he I was happy
with them. If they had no idea send it up
to the video. It didn't lose in the game, are
you right? But it should have been.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
What about Cobo's foot on the line? This was another
according thoughts on this one was and look right there,
that's a shocker.
Speaker 7 (12:22):
What I can understand touching it, I can understand. I
could understand that a pair of white nikes. But when
he's got the bright orange.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
You know that touch charge I direct, It'll be one
of the two is going again.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
At least you know that.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
The score I think at that stage was ten eight
or twelve eight.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
It was close.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
They get to set a six on the line, the
Dolphins could have scored. Broncos get the ball and go
up the other end score.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
It's a game changing blunder. Mysterious. He was looking right,
he was Josh.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
He only fined for touching the referee. What was our
thoughts on the one.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
I'm surprised by this break. I think that that warrants
the suspension. You cannot touch referee the same God and
you cannot touch referee.
Speaker 7 (13:07):
I know what you're saying, but sometimes you.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
Don't touch referees. I know he didn't mean that it
was me nasty or he wasn't being but what do
you want to happen from that. Give him a week
if you want to give him a week, can't do that.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
What did he say, I cannot touch? What did he say?
Did he say, I'm sorry, sir, sorry mate?
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Well clearly didn't you.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Know what a concerning act letter? Nothing else concerning Well,
that's what.
Speaker 7 (13:35):
It looks like. He said.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
You want him kicked out of the game for nothing.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Let's be you can't look at take every instance for
what it is. Look look at what he's look at
him walking up to Come on.
Speaker 6 (13:50):
I don't care referees. I'm sorry, but you can't touch
the referee.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
You're having a bad shoud.
Speaker 6 (13:58):
You are having bad I don't agree with you. Please?
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Who's getting the daily endpoints of the moment?
Speaker 3 (14:04):
My god, he's a miling pro.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
The DCE drama has exploded, with the manly Skipper calling
out what he described as a smear campaign design to
bring him down, just moments after their inspirational win over
the Heels. Dalley Cherry Evans lit the fuse and then
stood back big Day to day, it's hard to avoid
this one with DC the two minutes to talk of
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the town. But it is his first game. How will
he play how will the crowd respond? Much anticipation about.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
This watch and listen to the welcome for Manly and
DCEE at.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
The head of the queue in game number three, one
hundred and thirty three.
Speaker 8 (14:44):
Honestly, I was really emotional today when I heard the
Hill supporting me. The reception I got today, it made
me really proud to be the captain of Manley.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
The one thing that I see a challenge for Daily
and Manley is the next four to six weeks because
this story is not going to go away.
Speaker 8 (15:00):
Get this decision isn't going to make everyone happy, and
I've owned that from the start. But I feel like
it could have ended pretty quickly early in the week,
but it obviously didn't, which means conversations were continuing to
happen outside of the ones happening between the club and I.
So that's where I felt like I got a bit nasty.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
And a bit ugly.
Speaker 6 (15:15):
Whereas coming from.
Speaker 8 (15:19):
I know who it's coming from and it's not appropriate
to talk about it. You guys obviously know where it's
coming from as well, But I'm old enough and big
enough to handle it.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
And I asked you, do you think the media has
been bed stuff to rot.
Speaker 8 (15:31):
Yeah, by whom I'm not sure, or maybe I am.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
Then I'm not telling.
Speaker 8 (15:36):
Do you have a time one when you expect it?
I don't know what's going to annoy is. I'm really
sorry about that.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
I really am.
Speaker 8 (15:42):
That's where the part I understand circulation is going to continue.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
But I hope you can understand.
Speaker 8 (15:47):
That's why I've given the club time to move on
in their direction and then it will allow me freedom
to do my thing in the background. So that's why
it is the way it is. I can take my time.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
What a week it was last week for the mainly
seageles in their main man Dally Cherry Evans, and he handed.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
It with all class on the field even before the game.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Interviewed him live on the Sunday Ticket and it was
very graceful of him to give us his time considering
the circumstances. Then he's gone out there and played how
we expected him to play, well, how I expected him
to play. Great win for the manly Seagulls. But then
holds that press conference. Well, he does the press conference
after the match and says that there is a smear
campaign against him and directed it at someone who is
(16:28):
he directing it at well, I.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
Think we all suspect he's directing it at the CEO,
Tony Mestrov. I think that's the assumption. Assumption most of
us are made, and there's obviously a split in that club.
They've talked about no animosity from the start, and clearly
Day had plenty of animosity. That became pretty clear after
that game because he made a point of raising that
whole concept of the smear campaign. He mentioned it on
(16:50):
radio interviews straight after the game. He mentioned the press
conference he mentioned on Fox. I mean, he wanted to
make it pretty clear that he wasn't happy with the
events of the week. And you know, I think all
of us to shoot that he's referring to Tony.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
He was referring to Tony Meschov. But I do want
to say this, I don't think he smeared him at all.
Do what he did, and we just held the story up.
He lied to me, Tony Meschov understandably to protect Dally
Cherry Evans. I rang him two weeks ago and I said, MESSI,
(17:22):
there's a lot of mail around the Cherry Evans and
you are going to part company at the end of
the year. And we now know that the deal was
done in December last year. He said to me when
I rang him, and I said, mate, you told me
everything was sweet, you know, and everything he said I
had to, He said, I gave Cherry Evans my word
(17:45):
that this would stay in the vault until we're all
comfortable about a release and letting the fans know. He said, quite.
I just couldn't dog him, was the words he used
to me.
Speaker 5 (18:00):
And you know what I said, not do a press
conference with the team, because then it wouldn't be if
they both sat there.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
Yeah, but just let me finish this, he I think,
Mestrov and where you don't like being lied to, Mestrov
did the honorable thing by Cherry Evans, who has accused
him of this smear campaign, by protecting him. He was
concerned about the effect on the football team after a
(18:28):
bright start. He was concerned and he might have misread
it now of the fan backlash. We didn't know if
Che's was going to get burned yesterday or not, which
he didn't.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
So the smear campaign is news to me.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
I think he was naive, dully, or at least his
camp were buzzed when they spoke abou Dully said, I
thought I'd fund up, talk about it and will be
gone within a couple of days. And I think that
was just naive because the club was always going to respond,
because the club had to defend itself in that situation,
and that's what led to some of the stories that
came out. So, you know, I appreciate Daly maybe thought
(19:03):
that he could he could front the media that was
never going to happen and it'll be over. But whoever
was telling him that was what would happen was completely
naive about the way the media works.
Speaker 7 (19:13):
I've got a bit of sense that his manager's ringing
anybody that'll listen.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
I know a couple of journeys who are quite powerful
figures who have received very good briefings from the Cherry
Evans camp.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
To make sure they're okay, that's okay.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
But I'm just saying, this little pr game is coming
from both sides.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
Is it actually is?
Speaker 1 (19:40):
And I think, you know, they're kind of accused of
us of defending the club. And then there's, like you said,
there's other journalists that are in the in the DC
camp and but but that brings me back to this,
what is the actual smear though, What is he What
is he not happy about? With Mestrov? There has to
be something is it? Does it date back a long time?
Has it just had and over the negotiations?
Speaker 7 (20:02):
Well?
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Why is it? Why has it gotten so bad?
Speaker 6 (20:03):
I mean, there's a couple's some stories that came out
during the week break that I'm sure he was not
happy about. One was that he asked for a release.
I think it was the start of twenty twenty four,
which hadn't come out before. As far as it's fact,
as far.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
That's true, if he asked for a release, how is
it a smear campaign?
Speaker 6 (20:17):
Well, that's his view, it's a smear kit, and I
think most people the other one was, Well, the other
one was it's about money. You know, this was this
perception that's come out that his camp wanted a million,
a million, wine, a million two for him to stay there.
And I think there's a perception, maybe from Daily at least,
that it got painted as though this was maybe about money. Now,
(20:40):
you know, someone tried to tell me today that Cherry's
camp never discussed money with Manly. That's ridiculous. What agent
or agency doesn't talk to a club about what sort
of part figure that the player's worth, isn't it That's
the first one I would have thought it was, so
how many years and how much money it's It was
naive to think the club wouldn't defend its of this
(21:00):
week because I think they had to because the supporters
wanted answers. I'm sure there's sponsors wanted answers about how
this happened. They had to get on the front foot
and they had to explain what happened, and in a
way that's potentially reflected badly on dailier times.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
Now, they got the win, and they did it with
their in crews control. Great win, especially given the circumstances.
We know that, but moving forward, with this animosity still
brewing at the club and we're talking about a captain
and the CEO, there's still concerns that they.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Could be derailed at some point.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
DC needs to take you senior players out and have
a beer in a steak and talk to him because
the way Jake's like the loudest voice through the whole
week was me is Jacob, Well, I wouldn't do it,
and then like he come, And that's the stake And
if you're going to put anybody up on a pedestal
at Manly.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
Over the last ten years, it's Jake Tavoievitch.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
No one would ever say a bad word about him,
and it's like he is the man. He is the
Steve Mensis of that organization. So when he come out,
I think that's the loudest voice and he needs to
get him back on side.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
Want to give you another example of Jake's brother Tom,
And look, I haven't spoken to Tom for some time,
but I just wanted to bring up when he was
crooked last year and or the year before, missed a
number of games. You know, the logo meant to him
and the club and the team. He felt that uncomfortable.
He went to Mestrov and he went to Penn and
(22:30):
say take my contract money back. He offered up about
four hundred thousand dollars back to the club.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
Because and you know what.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
It just shows in this climate when we've got to
stink about whether seven fifty million. I just wanted people
to know what that jersey means to the.
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Trouble of its brothers. It's not for money, because I
come to work for money. Everybody goes to do their
job for money.
Speaker 6 (22:59):
The different people, right I mean Daly's always been and
people close to Dalla will tell you Daly's priority in
his football career is to set up his family and
set up set himself up right for life after footy.
Whilst the Druivits boys. I think the other part they've
grown up with the football club. It means everything to them,
(23:20):
so they coming it from I understand they're coming from
different angles. And I'm not going to criticize Daily for
doing what's best for him because I said Dylan Brown
should take the money and offer a Newcastle, so I'm
not going to criticize him for that, but I just
think the way he handled it, I think later in
life he'll regret the way this week's played out.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Yeah, I think they're like going back to that point
about that announcement, Like I still can't believe that they
would think the team around DC and DC himself that
he could make that announcement on TV and think that
it wasn't going to be a big deal, it was
going to go away.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
It only made it God and make the best point
he should have had a club. Parlo one, Mestra, Sea
Bowlt and Pen been sitting at a long desh.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
After ten years and the money that you've got with
that relationship, and it's not fifteen years we're going.
Speaker 7 (24:07):
To and it's hard to do. Buzz.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
I'm sitting here as a fifty year old. But sometimes
it's not the CEO, it's the club. It's the many organization.
What nineteen forty seven it started. That's who you represent.
You don't represent the CEO or the owner. That's who
you run out for. You run out for all the
past players and every manly fan that's ever gone to
support this great team. And that's who you go and
you talk to. And it's hard to put that cap on.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
All right.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
The battle is on still to security services for next
year and beyond.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Now.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
The big news last week in regards to that was
Bulldogs pulling out of the race. Gus called saying that
they are not. Are you sure? Do you think you
know the great gas?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
You know?
Speaker 4 (24:48):
He said about eight weeks ago they're pulling out a
big LEO Thompson from Newcastle.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
But the deal might have been done, but he said
he was probably out.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Three weeks later he signed I believe us. Then I've
dealt with Gusts for a long period of time.
Speaker 7 (25:05):
Back on the bus, you're buying.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
I'm on the bus with that football sensation. I don't
have a problem with Gus at all.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
But you say, but you're saying that you don't want
too so you're going to.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
Attack me now that was attacking Los Gus for sneaks.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Are you're going to be You're going to He's the
out of the race. So do you know I just
explained you're saying it's a fiver. I'm not saying it's
a fever. You're saying I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
He often does strange things to throw other parties off.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
You haven't answer what you're saying. But what do you
think I don't need to choose? What are you obsessed
with that? Because it's all the one in kit through
and holidays in his house?
Speaker 3 (25:46):
You want that withdraw a defamation.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
I did not stay it. It's okay if you did.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
It's a nice place, so I'll send you my air
B and B.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
I think it's going to come down to the Roosters
and Red Cliff.
Speaker 6 (25:59):
That's my belief.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Do you guys agree with that?
Speaker 6 (26:01):
Have you heard anything on that?
Speaker 2 (26:02):
Buzz?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
I agree, But I think the roosters are a lot
of on favorites.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
And Bulldogs aren't out of the race.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Well, I'm just saying I believe the Bulldogs pulled out
of the race because they thought the Rusters had already
secured his services.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
That's what I believe in it.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Who knows they may come back into it if this
drags on, because DC is saying that he's not going
to make a decision anytime, anytime soon. But this brings
me to you ready surely like he can't drag this
on all year. He can't not make a decision, or
well he can, but it's going to impact when no
one's going to stop talking about it.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
Well yeah, well, well it'll be a constant debate and
discussion point about where he's going to end up. But
you know, the obviously there's the russ and Dolphins in
the mix. They've got to keep money aside from, which
makes every team can't just keep a mind dollars aside
for him, which makes the recruitment difficult moving forward unless
they know. Unless one of them knows it's in their direction,
(27:01):
you'd be happy to do it, but it makes it
really difficult if you want to keep a million dollars
a side with Daly for next year. That's really difficult
in the current environment unless you're going to move players
at the end of the year to fit him in,
which is the other option for those clubs. But they
both got money up their sleeve. Break We know that
RWIS has kept money for Joey Marnhu. The Dolphins got
money aside as well, so they do have money at
(27:21):
the moment.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
But and there's no harves on the market as such
of that quality, so they but not that quality. Now,
he's not that easy good player. It's not that and
he probably doesn't demand one point one.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
And just back to that, I got told today confirmation
how early Manly knew that Manly made their first approach
too late last year.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
Really so this hasn't been a reaction.
Speaker 2 (27:48):
He could contribute to this.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
But this is this is the thing we're all kind
of saying, the club here, the player there, if they
contacted Fog, you all had a conversation when you all
had eyes on Fog and he at that point and
Dalishair Evans Camp gets wind of that, that that that
could also be a reason why we are where we
are here and why he's so pissed off now.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
But DC, he said to him I'm not staying. I'm
going after DC after that last year.
Speaker 5 (28:15):
Yeah, well they had to have a place, They had
a right when he asked for a release.
Speaker 7 (28:19):
Seriously, like Timmins that didn't want to be there, all right.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
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