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Hello, friends. It's time for the second hour of Open
Line with Doctor Michael Ray Moody Radio's Bible Study Across America.
We're talking about your questions about the Bible, God and
the spiritual life. My name is Michael Ray. I'm the
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me a great foundation for life. Uh, it gave me
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considering it, you check it out, too. Uh, we're going
to talk to Galen in Ohio, listening on CRF. Welcome
to Openline, Galen. How can I help you today? Or
did he just hang up? I think he just went away.
Just missed out. He couldn't. Wait another minute. There we go. Uh,
we're going to talk to Paul in big water, Utah.
What a great name. Listening on KP. Uh, welcome to
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Open Line. Paul. How can I help you?
S2 (03:34):
Well, thank you, David, for taking my call. Appreciate it.
S1 (03:37):
Well, David, who are we talking to?
S2 (03:41):
I'm sorry. Michael. Thank you, thank you.
S1 (03:45):
Okay, Fred. There we go. No. Paul. Paul.
S2 (03:49):
Paul. Okay. My question. Um, did any of the people
that came dwelt with after he killed Abel descend to
any of the 12 tribes of Israel? And where are
those people today?
S1 (04:09):
Well, everyone died in the flood. You remember that, right?
There was a universal flood. So the way we ultimately
got the tribes of Israel is, if you look at
the genealogy, genealogy, however you say it of, uh, of
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Seth in chapter five, uh, you see the genealogy of Seth,
and it comes down to verse, uh, 32. Noah was
500 years old, and he fathered Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
So everyone that lived after the flood descended from either Shem,
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Ham and Japheth, and, uh. And none of them, none
of those three actually descended from Cain. They all came
from the line of Seth, Shem, Ham, and Japheth. And
then if you keep reading that, you'll find that when
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you see the further genealogy, the the genealogy of Shem, uh,
leads to it says in chapter ten, verse 21. And Shem,
Japheth's older brother, also had son. Shem was the father
of all the sons of Eber. Shem sons were Elam, Asher, Arpachshad, Lud,
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and Aram. And then it starts talking about them. And uh,
ultimately when you go through all these, uh, in verse 25,
it says, uh, Eber, that's one of the sons of
Shem had two sons. One was named Peleg, for during
his days the earth was divided. His brother was named Joktan.
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And it is from, uh, that line, uh, that we get, uh,
shem's sons. And of course, out of Shem's sons comes Terah,
which leads to Abraham, which leads to the 12 tribes.
That's what you've got. So, uh, so that's. And you
can see that in chapter. 11, verse 16. Eber lived
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34 years, fathered Peleg, and it gives his line all
the way down to Abraham. Okay. So none of the
the sons of Cain are not part of the people
of Israel or anyone around them.
S2 (06:45):
Okay.
S1 (06:46):
Okay. Um, that's probably more detailed. I probably should have
put a chart up with all the genealogies in the
Book of Genesis, but it's there in the Bible. We
should know it. Okay.
S2 (06:57):
Well, thank you very much. Have a great day.
S1 (06:59):
Yep. Uh, we're going to talk with Dave, uh, in Holland, Michigan,
listening on WGN. Welcome to Open Line, Dave. How can
I help you?
S3 (07:09):
Thank you very much, sir. I appreciate you taking my call. Sure.
My question is, I have a friend of mine who's
recently become convinced that we should be following all the
food laws, all the feast laws of the Mosaic Law,
and if not actually out of obligation, that at the
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very least, it is going to be one of the things,
whether we follow or do not follow will be used
to consider what our level of reward would be in heaven.
I'm just curious about the whole relationship with the original law,
and obviously you're in a specific position to know all
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about that.
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Well, let me let me just say about, uh, that
we're we're under a law. We're not without law. But
the New Testament calls it the law of Messiah. It
doesn't call it the Law of Moses any longer. It
calls it the law of Messiah. If you go back
to Judaism, Judaism even said when the Messiah came, he
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would establish a new law, not like the Mosaic law.
I think that's important for us to remember that the
idea would would come about like that. Uh, in fact,
what the Hebrew Bible says in Jeremiah 31, I will
give you a new covenant, not like the covenant I
made when I brought you out of Egypt, the covenant
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I gave through the mosaic covenant. Not like the covenant
I gave you when you came out of Egypt. Uh,
but a new covenant. I'll place my law in your
inward parts as well. So. It's pretty clear to me
that we're under the New Covenant, not the Old covenant
in the New Testament. Now, obviously the whole Bible is
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our authority, but we have to look at the the
laws of the Torah as wisdom. Now, another thing is
pretty clear from acts 15 and from earlier parts, that
Jewish believers who want to can keep Torah. That's you know,
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you know, you see Paul in the book of acts,
you know, I've done nothing against the customs of our fathers,
he says. Uh, he he always identifies. First Corinthians nine.
He says to the Jews, I became as a Jew, uh,
to as those to those under the law. As when
under the law. Right. So, so, um, you know, I
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think that would be true for anyone that out of liberty,
out of significance, out of meaning, they can keep Torah,
they can keep holidays, they can do all that, but
they can't impose that on someone else. Uh, that's what
it seems like to me. We have freedom, not mandate
a mandate. It's significant, but it's not required. And I
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would say to anyone that tells you this, uh, to read, uh,
Colossians 216, therefore, don't let anyone judge you in regard
to food and drink or in the matter of a festival,
or a new moon or a Sabbath day. These are
a shadow of what was to come. The substance is
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the Messiah. So, uh, I would say that's that's the
guideline I would give you. Okay, Dave.
S3 (10:37):
And would someone would someone be giving anything up in
heaven as far as level of reward by not following
the Torah?
S1 (10:47):
Well. As I said, if you're following the New covenant now,
there are many things from the Torah that are in
the New Covenant. You know, if you go to the
the Torah, it says, don't commit adultery. So does the
New covenant. Right, right. Yeah.
S4 (11:07):
I get it.
S1 (11:08):
But, uh, what we're we're we're our standard is the
new covenant. So if you're not keeping kosher, I wouldn't worry,
especially if you're not Jewish. I mean, really? So. Yeah. Okay.
S4 (11:21):
All right.
S1 (11:22):
Uh. Colossians two. Okay. Go there. Okay.
S4 (11:25):
Yep. Yep.
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Go right back to the phones and talk with Larry
in North Augusta, South Carolina listening on. Welcome to Open Line, Larry.
How can I help you?
S5 (14:10):
Thank you. I like your show a lot. I listen
to it some a good many Saturdays. Uh, my question is, uh.
Thank you. My question is, uh, King David's people that
would be alive today. Do they do they know they
were kin to him? And or is there a way
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that they could tell?
S4 (14:32):
Well, there there we can tell.
S1 (14:34):
We can tell who is Jewish through DNA studies. Uh, But,
you know, one of the things that there are two
categories of Jewish people. There's the Mizrahim or Sephardim, they
are the Jews that are from the East, from the
Arab world. And they also they originated actually from Spain. Uh,
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what happened is they they went to there were some
that were like in Babylon from ancient days, but then
there were some Jews that went to Spain. Spain is sepharad. And, uh,
they are known as Sephardim. So. And they're very they're
their DNA is really, really similar to the Jews in
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the Arab world that went there because of the exile,
particularly to Babylon. Uh, in the exile. Uh, and then, uh,
there's also Jewish people who are called Ashkenazim. The word
Ashkenaz comes from the word for Germany, and they are
the ones that were in Western, central and Eastern Europe,
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not southern Europe, but like by Spain, but other places.
Today they've scattered through Eastern Europe, uh, Poland and Germany,
and then of course Poland, Germany, Poland, Russia. Many perished
in the Holocaust. Uh, that was predominantly, uh, the Jews
that perished. And, uh, other interesting studies have shown with
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DNA that there's a common source for the Mizrahi or
Sephardic Jews. Those Jewish people, along with the they have
a common source. All of them have a common source.
So all these things where people are saying, oh, the
Jewish people aren't really the Jewish people of the Bible,
they're all mistaken. They, they the DNA studies have confirmed
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that Jewish people are indeed the same people descended from
the people who were in the land of Israel now?
Do they know if they're from the tribe of Judah
and related to David? That I don't think we've gotten
down to that because we don't have, uh, David's DNA
to compare it to that. But, uh, but we do
know that we can trace the Jewish people back to
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biblical days with DNA. Okay.
S5 (16:58):
All right. Thank you. That's been on my mind. I
appreciate you. I appreciate.
S4 (17:02):
It. Sure.
S1 (17:03):
Sure. I appreciate.
S4 (17:04):
The call.
S1 (17:05):
Uh, we're going to talk to Kathy in Georgia, listening
on a smart speaker. Boy, it's really smart if it
knows how to listen to this. That's great. Kathy, how
can I help you today?
S6 (17:17):
Good morning, sir. You've taught us to pray in the
name of the father, through the blood of Jesus and
in the power of the spirit. Sometimes I need to
just shoot up a prayer in the middle of Something
going on. And I wondered if I could just say,
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Dear Jesus and just make it kind of a quick prayer.
But do I need to say all that or just
once a day say those things?
S1 (17:53):
Well, I think when we're having our time of prayer,
I think we should pray in the name of to the.
We pray to God the Father in the name of
the son, by the power of the spirit. There's no
question that that's what the Bible teaches us. But I
think you're asking more about, uh, a Nehemiah prayer. I
call them, uh, in in Nehemiah it says, uh.
S4 (18:20):
That, uh.
S1 (18:22):
That he, he was before the king. And, uh, the
king said, This is Nehemiah two. The king asked him,
why are you sad? and I was overwhelmed with fear
and replied to the king because you should never be
sad in front of the king. So he tells him
why he's sad and the king asks me, what is
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your request? And then verse four in the middle it says,
so I pray to the God of heaven and answered
the king, so that prayer must have been just a
momentary prayer. Don't you think.
S4 (18:55):
He prayed.
S1 (18:56):
To the God of heaven and answered, and I think
that's what you're asking about. How do I do a
Nehemiah prayer? Well, truth to tell, uh, I don't I
think this is important for you to get a grasp
of this. God isn't a legalist. He's not going to
ignore you if you say, Lord Jesus and and and
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send up one of these Nehemiah prayers, he's not going
to say, ah, that didn't follow the form that I
taught in the Bible. So I'm not listening. He's not
a legalist like that. He will listen, uh, when we
cry out to him, that's the first thing. And then, uh, secondly,
we have an example of someone who had one of
those momentary prayers and prayed to the Lord Jesus. And
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that's Steven when he was dying in acts seven, uh,
after his sermon, he said, Lord Jesus, until you, you know,
into your hands I commit my spirit. So he prayed
to the Lord Jesus as he died. That was one
of those emergency prayers, don't you think?
S4 (20:00):
And and yes.
S1 (20:01):
The Lord received it and heard him and welcomed him home. So, uh,
don't don't think I'm saying that God's a legalist and
that this is it. But in the normal circumstances of life,
when we sit down to pray, I really do believe
we should pray to the father in the name of
the son. We. That's why. That's why in Jesus name
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is not a just a rote saying that we say
at the end of a prayer, uh, meaning. And now
we're done. No, we pray in the name of Jesus
because he's our representative. We don't deserve anything before the father,
but he can represent us. He's our advocate. Uh, it
says in first John two one and two. And so
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that's why we pray in Jesus name. He told us
to ask anything in his name. And then when I say,
by the power of the Holy Spirit, we allow the
Holy Spirit to work in our hearts and allow us
to consider what should we pray about? What is the
Holy Spirit putting on our hearts to pray? And it
doesn't have to be a big emotional thing. I think, Lord,
let the spirit guide my prayer list and and he
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shows me what I should be praying. And that's what
I mean by praying in the power of the spirit. Okay.
S6 (21:17):
Yes, sir. Thank you so much.
S1 (21:20):
Yeah. Thank you so much for your call. Appreciate it. Uh,
we're going to talk. We're going to talk to Davis
in South Carolina. Welcome to Open Line. Davis, how can
I help you today?
S7 (21:32):
Bless you. Doctor. Thank you so much. Yeah. I just
wanted to, um, to expound just a minute or two
on what Amy, um, question was concerning the Passover. And
that was good. That was good. I just want to
say that, um, Jesus had to come off the cross
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on that Friday because according to God's word, from sun
up to sundown is a new day. Mhm. From sun
up to sundown is a new day. Friday was already in.
If the sun had went down on Jesus on that Friday,
it would have entered into Sabbath. So they were very.
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So the people were very concerned that we got to
get him off the cross. We can't leave him up
here or we're going to have problems in this city.
So they took him down because. Because the Sabbath was
coming in. And of course, we know the Bible says
the Sabbath is made for man and not man for
the Sabbath. Uh, so that's the reason why they took
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Jesus off the cross? Because the Sabbath was coming in?
S1 (22:46):
Yes. And and and the question was what day? It
was clearly Friday, because it was the Sabbath coming. Right.
That's what your point is, right?
S7 (22:55):
Yes. Yes yes, yes. Yeah. That that was my point.
And I just wanted an amen. And others, you know, to,
to at least, uh, understand that as well. You know, I, uh, I,
I've taught Jewish study, uh, for quite some time and, uh,
and I keep the Sabbath. I'm a Sabbath keeper. Okay. And, uh, so. Yes. But.
S1 (23:18):
Well, thank you for your call, Davis. I appreciate the input,
I really do. Thank you. Okay. You have a great day.
Bye bye. Uh, we're going to talk with Lewis in
Deerfield Beach, Florida. Listening to welcome to Open Line. Lewis.
How can I help you today?
S8 (23:35):
Hey, how are you? Doctor. How are you, man?
S1 (23:37):
I am well, thank you.
S8 (23:40):
This is my question. Um, I was reading that, um, the, um, uh,
Mary's parents immaculate conception, that Mary's parents were without sin
in order, in order to Christ to come through the.
Through Mary. Uh, is that true?
S1 (23:56):
The. Was Mary without sin? No. The only the only Mary.
S8 (24:01):
Mary's parents that were born.
S1 (24:03):
Well, no, Mary wasn't without sin. That's what they're saying.
That's what the Immaculate Conception is, that Mary was conceived
and did not have sin in her. It's not talking
about her parents when it talks about the Immaculate Conception,
it's people, uh, believe that there are people who believe
that that Mary was sinless. Now, according to scripture, the
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only one who never sinned was her son, the Lord Jesus. Absolutely. And, uh,
not only that, in her Magnificat, her her prayer, uh,
that that she offered when she heard about the that
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she was going to bear a son, uh, in the Magnificat,
she calls God her Redeemer, her Savior. And and so
it says, my spirit. In Luke chapter one, verse 47,
my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior, because he
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looked with favor on his, on the humble condition of
his slave. Now how does she call God her Savior?
If she was sinless, she wouldn't need a Savior. So
for that reason, I think it's pretty clear that Mary
was a wonderful, godly woman. Clearly wonderful, godly woman. Very
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much living according to the scriptures and faithful. But she
was not sinless. Well, we're going to come back with
the Febc mailbag in just a moment, so stay with us.
This is Open Line with Michael Melnick. Thanks for listening.
We're going to be right back. So stay right there.
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S9 (27:00):
I am happy to be here. Thank you so much
for having me.
S1 (27:04):
You know where Trish is right now.
S9 (27:06):
Where is Tricia?
S1 (27:07):
She's with her kids, uh, at an Easter egg hunt.
Because it's spring break, and that's why she's not here today.
S9 (27:14):
How fun.
S1 (27:15):
Yeah. Yep. Easter egg hunt. You know where the the.
I think this is interesting. People think that the egg
Came to Easter. This is kind of bizarro. Uh, they
they when they kind of merged back in the fourth century,
they adapted a date by Constantine at the Council of
Nicaea to make it part of when the pagan festivals
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were in the spring. And of course, some people said
they were fertility rites. And so the egg became prominent.
And that's where it came from. Sort of a syncretism.
Could be. I don't know. But, uh, part of the Seder,
the Passover meal, was the egg that you eat in saltwater.
And the reason the rabbi said we didn't egg in
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saltwater is that the egg represents the daily sacrifice, because
every day the hen would lay an egg. And so
every day there was a sacrifice. And then, uh, it
was eaten in salt water because the temple was destroyed
and because the temple was destroyed. We were sad. So
we eat, we dip it or eat it with salt
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water to show our tears at the destruction of the temple.
I eat an egg in salt water at my Seder,
because I am sad that my people don't know that
there is. There is a remaining sacrifice for them, a
sacrifice for their sins, the Messiah. But here's the thing.
It was Judaism that took the egg first, and it
had nothing to do with paganism. And and I think
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that's where the church got the egg thing.
S9 (28:45):
Thank you for that.
S1 (28:47):
That that's kind of a different take on that. But anyway, uh, uh,
I don't think they realized where it comes from. Nevertheless, uh,
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Yes. The first one is from Sue in North Carolina.
Listening through. My pastor says, if you believe in Christ,
you are saved. If a person says they believe in
God and Christ His son, and they believe that he
died for our sins, but they don't go to church
or read the Bible or talk about God. And, um,
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it's not by works. Are they truly saved?
S1 (30:43):
Well, the gospel is that a person has to believe
that Jesus died for their sins and rose again, and
that proves he's God. That's what it is. Now, there
are people out there that seem to have no fruit
in their lives. And we think, well, uh, they probably
don't know the Lord, but they never deny their faith.
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They just say it's not affecting my life. They don't
have Jesus in their life. They have Jesus in their
future life. They say, now, this is a weird thing.
What I would say is, I don't know their hearts.
I don't know if there's a little bit of fruit
that God can see that I can't. So I try
never to judge a person depending on their profession. If
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they profess faith, I, I want to can agree with that. Now,
I think it's interesting that in first Corinthians five when
Paul is addressing, uh, a member of the body of
in Corinth who is in sexual sin. Paul doesn't deny
that he's a believer, even though that there's very little
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fruit in his life. But instead he says this so-called brother,
that's how he describes him.
S9 (31:56):
Okay.
S1 (31:57):
So he says, well, he's claiming to be a brother.
We're going to deal with him as such. But he's
so called because I have my doubts about him. So, uh,
but even then, Paul doesn't deny that he's a brother.
He just calls him a so-called brother. So that's what
I would say. I would encourage anyone that professes faith
if you love me, you'll obey my commandments. Jesus said,
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anyone I talk to who loves Jesus and isn't in
my sense walking with them, I would just encourage them, hey,
you know your life will flourish. Your life will be
better if you if we obey him. So that's that's
where I would go.
S9 (32:35):
Thank you for that answer, Michael. And that question, Sue.
Our next question is from Mary in Illinois with WNBA.
She said my niece is professor at a university, is
saying that Israel should be held accountable for genocide. And
what are your thoughts about that?
S1 (32:53):
Well, it sounds like it's a professor saying such things
as our college campuses have been inundated with falsehoods about Israel. Uh, and,
you know, it's it's part of, uh, Hamas's plan to
do this. Let me just say straight out that, first
of all, that this didn't start with the current Gaza war.
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It actually began years ago, like about 2005 is when
all of a sudden, hey, let's call this genocide. I
call that Holocaust inversion. The anti-Semites today don't want to, uh,
say that Jewish people were subject to genocide. They were
the objects of genocide. In fact, a Jewish person named
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Lemkin is the one that came up with the term
for genocide to describe the Holocaust. And so, uh, I
think it was Rudolph or Raphael, Raphael Lemkin that that
came up with that name, that term, uh, and anti-Semites
today want to absolve their own sense of guilt for
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what happened to the Jewish people by accusing the Jewish
people of being guilty of genocide. And that's why they
accused Israel of genocide. It is a lie on the
face of it. In this current war, people are shouting genocide. Genocide!
50,000 dead. claiming 70% of the dead are women and children. Well,
just a few weeks ago, even Hamas took those names
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of women and children off their lists. They decided, oh,
this isn't going to work. So even they backed off
of that charge. They don't ever describe how many of
the people who died in Gaza are, uh, are combatants, uh,
with the the majority of them are combatants. And another
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thing that comes about, yes, there are tragic civilian, uh,
collateral deaths. And it's tragic. It's horrible. Uh, Israel doesn't
want to have collateral deaths. In fact, Israel is so careful,
they announce where they're going. They they try to get
civilians out of areas of fire so that they won't have, uh,
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civilian collateral death. And John Spencer from from West Point.
The foremost expert on urban warfare says Israel has the
lowest collateral civilian death of any war that has ever
been fought in an urban area because Israel is so careful.
Let me just put it this way. One last thing
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about this. There are about 500 to maybe 700,000 Palestinian
refugees in 1948, people who fled what was then called
Palestine as the state was partitioned and it was going
to be a Jewish and Arab state, the Arab states
rejected it. Many Palestinians fled, uh, and as a result,
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there were about 5 to 700,000. The numbers vary, but
no more than 700,000. At the same time, there were
750,000 Jewish refugees from the Arab world, and they just
got incorporated into Israel. But what happened to the Palestinian refugees?
Today there are 14 million plus.
S9 (36:12):
Okay.
S1 (36:13):
That's. That doesn't sound like a genocide to me. Uh,
also in Israel itself or the West Bank, Gaza, uh,
areas like that, uh, there are about five and a
half to 6 million Palestinians, descendants of those refugees. Listen,
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my parents were Holocaust survivors. We lost all our family. Uh, I,
I have hardly any family members. When you think about it,
there were 9 million Jewish people in, uh, in Europe.
6 million were murdered. And it's only recently that the
world Jewish population came up to what it was at
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the at the eve of World War two. Uh, this, uh,
this is a wrong, anti-Semitic driven, spurious Lie against Israel,
that they are somehow carrying out a genocide against the
Palestinian people. And if you want to know, I'll tell
you what I really think. That's what I think. Okay.
S9 (37:21):
Thank you. Michael, it is certainly a time for prayers,
but thank you for that response. Do we have time
for one more?
S1 (37:27):
Uh, yeah.
S9 (37:28):
Okay. We'll do Joe in Delaware. How is it that
the yeast referred to in Matthew 1333 is often taught
to be the gospel as a symbol of growth, when
yeast is always a symbol of sin throughout the scriptures.
S1 (37:43):
It's that the answer is it's not always a symbol
of sin. It's sometimes a symbol of sin. That's how
it is with figures of speech. They're not always consistently
used in the same way. The reason it's frequently used
as a symbol of sin is because the way yeast
grows and spreads. But it really is a symbol of
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growth And the kingdom of God is going to grow.
That that's why it uses yeast of it for it. Uh,
but because it grows, it's also considered a symbol of sin,
the leaven of malice. In First Corinthians five, uh, and
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places where like. Beware, beware of the leaven of the
Pharisees and the Sadducees, the leaven of the Pharisees being hypocrisy,
the leaven of the Sadducees being unbelief. Those sins grow
and spread. That's that's why it's used as leaven. But
it's not 100% always something sinful. So. Okay.
S9 (38:44):
Thank you.
S1 (38:45):
Yeah. We're going to take a break here. And, uh,
when we come back, we'll take more of your questions
right here on Open Line. My name is Michael Ray Jelinek.
That was Tara Haynes. Keep on listening. We're going to
be back with more calls straight ahead, right here on
Moody Radio's Open Line. Welcome back to Open Line. I
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Florida Keys. Welcome to Open Line, Sue. How can I
help you?
S10 (41:18):
Hi. Thank you for what you do here with this
radio program. It's always very helpful. Um, my question was,
I have been praying for my daughter's salvation for 40 years.
And every day that's in my prayer journal. And I
was wondering if when I get to heaven, if I
would be able to intercede at the throne of grace
for her salvation. Is there prayer in heaven for those
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on earth? I guess is my question.
S1 (41:44):
Well, some people think, uh, for example, in revelation 12,
where it talks about the incense being the prayer of
the saints. But I think it's the prayers of the
saints on earth, not not the saints in saints being believers. Um, uh,
I don't know, the Bible doesn't say you won't be
able to talk to the Lord about it, but I
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think the really important person is the person. You've been
praying in his name all throughout this time. He will
continue that there's only one mediator between God and humanity,
and that is the Messiah, Jesus. So first Timothy two
five should be a comfort, whether you can pray or not,
I don't know. I know you can't watch on a
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lot of people think, oh, we're we're somehow granted omniscience.
So we know what's going on on earth while we're
in heaven. I don't believe that's true when it says
in Romans, in Hebrews 12 that we have so great
a cloud of witnesses. It's only referring to those in
first Corinthians, in in Hebrews 11, where they exercise faith,
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all these Old Testament people and people in the Intertestamental period,
They live by faith. And then Paul's whoever wrote Hebrews says,
since we have so great a cloud of testifiers, people
who testify to the value of faith, it's talking about
the people in Hebrews 11. It's not talking about people
in heaven watching us, but rather the people who are
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mentioned in Hebrews 11. They testify to the faithfulness of God,
the value of faith themselves. And so I don't think
we become omniscient. We won't be watching our our loved
ones on earth. Uh, but God does. He knows. And
the Lord Jesus is the mediator who will bring those
prayers continually to the father. Okay.
S11 (43:42):
Okay. Thanks so much. God bless you.
S1 (43:44):
And by the way, I don't know that you can't
pray when you're with the Lord. Uh, maybe you can. Uh,
I don't there's nothing in Scripture that says yes or no. Okay.
S10 (43:56):
Right, right. Thanks so much. God bless.
S1 (43:58):
Sure. Okay. Bye bye. Uh, we're going to speak next with, uh,
Dave in Chicago listening on WNBA. Welcome to Open Line, Dave.
How can I help you?
S12 (44:11):
Thank you. My question is about John 2023. It appears
Jesus is giving the disciples authority to forgive sins. It
just seems rather odd to me. I thought only he
could forgive sins.
S1 (44:24):
Uh, I think it's really not talking about them. By
the way, I can forgive sins if you sinned against me, Dave,
or I sin against you. We can forgive each other,
can we not?
S12 (44:34):
Uh. That's true. Maybe I misunderstood the verse.
S1 (44:38):
No, no, no, you didn't. But, I mean, don't take away, uh,
the expectation that we're supposed to forgive, uh, you know,
but in verse 23, what it's saying, receive the Holy Spirit.
It says in verse 22, that's a temporary infilling to
get them from, uh, the resurrection here all the way
to to Pentecost. And then it says, if you forgive
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the sins of any, they are forgiven them. If you
retain the sins of any, they are retained. That actually
has to do with the proclamation of the apostles. The
apostles are going to say. Uh, clearly an example would
be Paul. Believe on the Lord Jesus and your sins
will be forgiven. Right. Acts 16. Uh, that's what it's saying,
is if I'm giving you the authority to proclaim forgiveness.
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And if someone says to you, but I believe in Jesus,
you can say your sins are forgiven. If someone says,
I refuse to believe in Jesus, you can say your
sins are not forgiven. That's what it's saying. It's giving
them the authority to proclaim, uh, the forgiveness of sins
of people based on whether or not they believe in
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Jesus or not. I think this is crucial. In John 824,
the Lord Jesus says, unless you believe that I am he?
Literally I am. You're still in your sins. We must believe.
We must proclaim that truth. But what good news we
can proclaim? Your sins are forgiven because you've trusted in Jesus.
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I think that's what it's talking about there in John. Okay, Dave.
S12 (46:12):
Thank you.
S1 (46:13):
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