Psych Tech @ Work

Psych Tech @ Work

Science 4-Hire is now Psych Tech @ Work! - a podcast about safe innovation at the intersection of psychological science, technology, and the future of work. Psych Tech @ Work promotes safe technological innovation and human/machine partnerships as an essential force in creating equilibrium and between psychology and commerce. Maintaining this balance in a time of unprecedented change is essential for ensuring that the future of work is ethical, positive, and prosperous. Creating such a future requires an unprecedented level of interdisciplinary collaboration. With the goal of educating, engaging, and inspiring others through thoughtful and practical discussions with guests from a wide variety of backgrounds and specialties, Psych Tech @ Work provides a smorgasbord of food for thought and practical takeaways about the issues that will make or break the future of work! charleshandler.substack.com

Episodes

May 12, 2025 52 mins

Guest: Christine Boyce, Global Innovation Leader at ManpowerGroup/Right Management

“We have to stress-test innovation in the messiness of real-world hiring, not just ideal lab conditions.”

-Christine Boyce

In this episode of Psych Tech @ Work, I’m joined by my longtime friend Christine Boyce, Global Innovation Leader at ManpowerGroup/Right Management, to explore how innovation — especially around AI — is reshaping hiring and talent de...

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"Part of putting an AI strategy together is understanding the limitations and where unintended consequences could occur, which is why you need diversity of thought within committees created to guide AI governance and ethics." 

– Bob Pulver

My guest for this episode is my friend in ethical/responsible AI, Bob Pulver, the founder of CognitivePath.io and host of the podcast "Elevate Your AIQ." 

Bob specializes in helping organizations na...

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“We have to move beyond the idea that a skills-based job description is enough—there needs to be validation, assessment, and a clear pathway for job seekers to prove their abilities.”

-Jason Tyszko

In this episode of Psych Tech @ Work, I sit down with Jason Tyszko, Senior Vice President of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce Foundation, to discuss what it really takes to make skills-based hiring a reality

Jason oversees the Foundation’s T3...

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In our recent LinkedIn Live session my esteemed colleague, Neil Morelli, founder of Workplace Labs, and I present a philosophical but practical approach to the adoption of HR Tech tools.

Check out the full video of the presentation attached to this post and our accompanying slides (found at the bottom of the post).

Here is a quick overview of the ideas that form the foundation of the presentation.

“The highest-level goal of the talent...

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"The hiring industry is at a breaking point—AI is putting pressure on old systems that were never designed for this level of automation."

Jeff Taylor

In this episode of Psych Tech @ Work, I am joined by Jeff Taylor, serial entrepreneur and founder of Monster.com, & Boomband a revolutionary new platform that is looking to turn hiring on its ear.

Few people have shaped the hiring industry as profoundly as Jeff, whose vision transformed...

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“The future of assessments is about customization at scale. AI allows us to generate and adapt assessments in real-time, making them more relevant to specific job roles.”

–Ben Williams

Introduction:

In this episode of Psych Tech @ Work, I sit down with Ben Williams, Managing Director of Sten 10, to discuss how AI is reshaping the field of psychometric assessments and hiring processes. Our conversation dives into the evolving landscap...

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“We need global standards to define and verify skills, or we’ll be left with confusion and inconsistency across industries.”

-Notebook LM’s Deep Dive Podcast Hosts

Skills based hiring is all the rage, and so is AI.

So what happens when you mix the two?

In this special edition of Psych Tech @ Work, I handed the mic over to AI using Google’s Notebook LM. The result? A fully AI-generated exploration of the evolving world of ski...

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“Technology should enable human connection, not replace it.”

—Alison Eyring

Introduction

In this episode, I’m joined by my friend Alison Eyring, an IO psychologist with decades of experience in the realm of global leadership and talent development and the founder of Produgie.

I have known Alison for a very long time - in fact she was my first “real world” project sponsor back in 1994!

It was a pleasure to welcome Alison to the show for ...

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"AI isn’t replacing people—it's augmenting them. The people who know how to use AI will replace those who don’t: "Redesigning jobs is about understanding which tasks humans excel at and which tasks AI can handle—then finding the perfect balance."

Guest:

Sania Khan

* Labor Economist, founder of Inflection Point Consulting, Chief Economist at a leading talent intelligence AI company, Senior Economist at the Bureau of Labor Statistics (B...

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"The most important competency for success in global assignments? Humility—being willing to learn how to succeed in a new cultural context."

* Paula Caligiuri

Paula is THE expert in this realm!

In this episode, I welcome Paula Caligiuri, a renowned expert in cross-cultural psychology and global leadership and author of many books about cross-cultural adaptation and career happiness, the latest ones being:

Build Your Cultural Agility: T...

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"Hiring is broken not because of a lack of tools, but because we lack a disciplined, strategic approach. Technology only works when we have the right foundation."

–Linda Brenner

* In this episode of Psych Tech @ Work, I welcome my long time friend and collaborator Linda Brenner for some straight talk about the challenges facing TA leaders in the age of talent shortages, AI, and general global insanity.

* This conversation serves as a ...

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"We’re generating assessments faster than ever, but our real test is ensuring that these tools are fair and reliable across diverse candidate groups."

–Louis Hickman

In this episode I welcome my friend, super dad, and ex- professional wrestler Louis Hickman for a killer conversation about the ins and outs of using LLMs to create and score assessments.

Louis is a professor at Virginia Tech specializing in research on AI and large langu...

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Meghan: "Skills are the driver of the future of work. Without validation, there’s no trust, and without trust, you can’t make decisions based on skills."

In this episode of Psych Tech @ Work I welcome my new friend Meghan Raftery who is an Education Designer and skills validation expert who works at Educational Design Lab - a community that is dedicated to doing skills based hiring the right way by ensuring that skills are verified ...

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"The real challenge isn't just defining skills, but creating a system where hiring criteria and performance criteria align—where your hiring approach is integrated into your company’s everyday operations."

—Matthias Schmeisser

Summary:

In this episode of "Psych Tech @ Work," I am joined by Matthias Schmeisser, a talent acquisition leader from Berlin Germany who is passionate about skills based hiring.  

Much of our conversation is focu...

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"In the absence of trust, people will disengage. No amount of technology or process can replace the human need for belief and belonging."

-Julian Stodd

This episode is a must listen for those looking to expand their ideas about leadership, technology, and the psychology of work!

In this episode of "Psych Tech @ Work," I welcome Julian Stodd, founder of Sea Salt Learning and prolific author whose work challenges conventional views on l...

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“The challenge isn’t just identifying skills, but ensuring the data is validated, diverse, and reflective of real-world performance."
Summary: My guest for this episode is Greg Gasperin, CEO and Co-Founder of Merify, a skills data verification platform.  Greg and I discuss the future of skills-based hiring, which we both agree requires a shift from traditional resumes and degree-based qualifications to mor...
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    "It's about selling objectivity, not just science. We need to make sense of the vast data around us to help businesses make better decisions."

    -Eric Sydell

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    In this episode of "Psych Tech @ Work," my long time friend Eric Sydell, IO psychologist, genius, and co-founder of Vero AI, joins me to discuss the transformative potential of AI in the workplace and the importance of responsible innovation. ...
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    "It's important to understand that disability is contextual. One can be both enabled and disabled by their neurodivergence depending on the environment and the task at hand."-Nancy Doyle

    "The way we diagnose and support neurodivergence needs to evolve. We're still using outdated models that don't consider the full spectrum of human cognitive diversity."-Nancy Doyle

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    In this episode of "Psych Tech ...
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    "It’s important to be a sponge when you're early in your career. Pick up pieces of what everybody else is doing that looks like it's working, and if it doesn't work, then you learn and grow from it." Brandon Sulzberg "Having an open mind early in your career can lead you to discover new interests and opportunities you might have otherwise overlooked." Joe Prinzevalli Summary: In this episode I welcome Brando & Joe, recent gradu...
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    "Organizational justice is about ensuring that every individual feels they are treated fairly and with respect in all aspects of their work. It’s not just about the outcomes they receive, but how those outcomes are decided and communicated. Fair processes and respectful treatment are fundamental to maintaining trust and equity within any organization."   -Stephen Gilliland  

    Summary: In this episode of "Psych Tech @ Work,"...
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