September 12, 2024 • 6 mins
Dr. Matthew Grunkemeyer from OrthoCincy joined us to discuss Tee Higgins' hamstring issues, Kris Jenkins' thumb injury, and whether it makes sense for the Reds to have Matt McLain try to play sometime before their season ends.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We chat with one of the experts from Ortho Sincy
Orthopedics and Sports Medicine. What we love about Orthosincy is
specialists all over the Tri State locations all over the
Try State, and they offer walk in orthopedic urgent care
during the week nine eight to nine P. Saturday's nine
eight to one p. Walk in means you don't need
an appointment. You knew that already. Learn more at orthosinc
(00:22):
dot com. That's Ortho c I Ncy dot com. We've
got to talk to Higgins. Doctor Matthew Grunckemeier is with us.
Let's let's start with what t said last week. He
on Thursday talked about how amazing he felt, and then
he didn't play on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
So how does that happen? Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I mean with a hamstring injury, he may be feeling
good the rest of his body, then when he goes
on to a full sprint or gets down in a
crouch position, it tweaks again. That could be the case.
He's probably trying to do a lot of what we
call get rest, where he's not pushing himself super hard
and practice to not reinjure the hamstring. But then when
(01:07):
he gets to a game or game level simulation, he's
going to have to push himself and that's when it'll
tweak at that high, highest level.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I feel bad for him, And obviously there's a lot
of noise around t because of his contract, and you
hear all the time maybe the Bengals don't pay him
because they're concerned about the number of hamstring injuries that
he has dealt with. Why Why would someone like Tea
have this keep recurring as opposed to somebody else who doesn't.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, you know, it's hard to say. I think just
with his position, he is having to crouch and flex
and go and put those hamstrings under stress so regularly.
And it's kind of like this man. Once you get
an injury, it heals, but it heals kind of with
scar tissue sometimes, so it's easier to kind of re
(01:56):
injure a said muscle such as a hamstring.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
And for Tea specifically, walk me through what the coming
weeks are going to look like, the treatment options, and
I guess, best guess, and I know we're guessing right now,
best guess as to when we might see him on
the field.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah, that's really hard to say. With these injuries, they're
notoriously difficult to guesstimate how long you're going to be
out with one. Some of them depends on the location,
if it's in the muscle belly, or if it's closer
to one of the tendons on either side, closer to
the knee, or up closer to the butt. And it's
(02:32):
really a case by case basis, So I just can't
give you exact timeline. But usually for full recovery on
a severe hamstring injury you're talking for, you may have
it as many as eight weeks.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I think a lot of US associate polls hamstring poles specifically,
I guess with colder weather, obviously it's not been very cold.
It's cold off a little bit, But do we worry
about tea when the weather does start to turn and
the temperatures do start to drop.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
You know, I don't really think that's an issue here.
These guys, he's NFL players are so highly conditioned that
the temperature is really not effect. That's more for you
and I. The weekend warriors, the guys that go out
and you know, play a softball game and pull their
hamming or something like that. You know, I don't think
that the temperatures really I play here, all right.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I want to ask you about Chris Jenkins, a rookie
defensive tackle from Michigan's second round choice draft choice.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
He didn't play the game on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
We find out a few days before the opener that
he is a thumb injury that's required surgery, and he
hasn't been placed on injured reserve. He could conceivably play
this week. So it might be a dumb question, but
I'll ask it anyway. What kind of thumb injury requires
surgery but isn't so severe that he could conceivably play
(03:49):
as soon as this Sunday?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Well, I'm assuming he's going to play with some type
of protection, and given that it's not likely that, given
his position, that he uses his hands to catch or
throw the ball. I think it is conceivable all the
time we have thumb injuries and athletes where we'll put
a cast on or potentially even perform an outpatient simple
(04:13):
surgery and then cast it to protect the thumb. I'm
assuming he's going to have some type of protection on
that thumb, as they're allowing him to play so soon after.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
A surgical treatment, is is This maybe as much about
pain tolerance as anything. If he does play, Sure, yeah,
it's painful injury, but you know, the injury hurts once
you repair it. I'm assuming it's a ligamentous injury and
not a bone injury. Once you repair that ligament, it
actually feels better once the swelling goes down after you know,
three to five days, probably feels better, feels a little
(04:43):
more stable.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
And he's a tough guy. Obviously, all these guys are
to make it to this high level of competition, so
I think he'll be able to handle it.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
One more injury to talk about.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
It's a baseball injury, I guess it's more a guy
who has had a lot of injuries over the course
of his career in red shortstop slash that can be.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It's been Matt McClain. He hasn't played at all this year.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
He's had rib issues, oblique issues, shoulder issues. They're still
leaving open the possibility that he may play with basically
two plus weeks left in the season. From a medical perspective,
understanding what he has gone through, does this make any sense?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah, I kind of have a hard time. There's sometimes
other things that play that we don't understand whether it's players,
contracts or other things. But from a medical peer perspective,
I would say give it a rest and try to
lace up again in twenty twenty five. But that's just
me talking from the outside.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, and you have to factor where the team is
in the standings in that conversation as well. Awesome perspective.
As always, I do appreciate it. Thank you so much,
all right, have a good day, all right. Most definitely
doctor Matthew Grugemeier from Orthos, since he we say it
every week. The great thing about Orthos, since he is
they have specialists and locations. You can't have specialists without
(05:58):
a location all across the Tri State. This includes walk
in orthopedic urgent care weekdays nine a m. To nine
pm and on Saturdays nine am to one pm, and
Edgewood and Anderson. It's easier and cheaper than going to
an er. Whenever you have an urgent orthopedic injury, just
go to Orthosinc.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Dot com. That's Ortho c I NCY dot com.
We chat with one of the experts from Ortho Sincy
Orthopedics and Sports Medicine. What we love about Orthosincy is
specialists all over the Tri State locations all over the
Try State, and they offer walk in orthopedic urgent care
during the week nine eight to nine P. Saturday's nine
eight to one p. Walk in means you don't need
an appointment. You knew that already. Learn more at orthosinc
(00:22):
dot com. That's Ortho c I Ncy dot com. We've
got to talk to Higgins. Doctor Matthew Grunckemeier is with us.
Let's let's start with what t said last week. He
on Thursday talked about how amazing he felt, and then
he didn't play on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
So how does that happen? Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I mean with a hamstring injury, he may be feeling
good the rest of his body, then when he goes
on to a full sprint or gets down in a
crouch position, it tweaks again. That could be the case.
He's probably trying to do a lot of what we
call get rest, where he's not pushing himself super hard
and practice to not reinjure the hamstring. But then when
(01:07):
he gets to a game or game level simulation, he's
going to have to push himself and that's when it'll
tweak at that high, highest level.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I feel bad for him, And obviously there's a lot
of noise around t because of his contract, and you
hear all the time maybe the Bengals don't pay him
because they're concerned about the number of hamstring injuries that
he has dealt with. Why Why would someone like Tea
have this keep recurring as opposed to somebody else who doesn't.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Yeah, you know, it's hard to say. I think just
with his position, he is having to crouch and flex
and go and put those hamstrings under stress so regularly.
And it's kind of like this man. Once you get
an injury, it heals, but it heals kind of with
scar tissue sometimes, so it's easier to kind of re
(01:56):
injure a said muscle such as a hamstring.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
And for Tea specifically, walk me through what the coming
weeks are going to look like, the treatment options, and
I guess, best guess, and I know we're guessing right now,
best guess as to when we might see him on
the field.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yeah, that's really hard to say. With these injuries, they're
notoriously difficult to guesstimate how long you're going to be
out with one. Some of them depends on the location,
if it's in the muscle belly, or if it's closer
to one of the tendons on either side, closer to
the knee, or up closer to the butt. And it's
(02:32):
really a case by case basis, So I just can't
give you exact timeline. But usually for full recovery on
a severe hamstring injury you're talking for, you may have
it as many as eight weeks.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
I think a lot of US associate polls hamstring poles specifically,
I guess with colder weather, obviously it's not been very cold.
It's cold off a little bit, But do we worry
about tea when the weather does start to turn and
the temperatures do start to drop.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
You know, I don't really think that's an issue here.
These guys, he's NFL players are so highly conditioned that
the temperature is really not effect. That's more for you
and I. The weekend warriors, the guys that go out
and you know, play a softball game and pull their
hamming or something like that. You know, I don't think
that the temperatures really I play here, all right.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
I want to ask you about Chris Jenkins, a rookie
defensive tackle from Michigan's second round choice draft choice.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
He didn't play the game on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
We find out a few days before the opener that
he is a thumb injury that's required surgery, and he
hasn't been placed on injured reserve. He could conceivably play
this week. So it might be a dumb question, but
I'll ask it anyway. What kind of thumb injury requires
surgery but isn't so severe that he could conceivably play
(03:49):
as soon as this Sunday?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Well, I'm assuming he's going to play with some type
of protection, and given that it's not likely that, given
his position, that he uses his hands to catch or
throw the ball. I think it is conceivable all the
time we have thumb injuries and athletes where we'll put
a cast on or potentially even perform an outpatient simple
(04:13):
surgery and then cast it to protect the thumb. I'm
assuming he's going to have some type of protection on
that thumb, as they're allowing him to play so soon after.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
A surgical treatment, is is This maybe as much about
pain tolerance as anything. If he does play, Sure, yeah,
it's painful injury, but you know, the injury hurts once
you repair it. I'm assuming it's a ligamentous injury and
not a bone injury. Once you repair that ligament, it
actually feels better once the swelling goes down after you know,
three to five days, probably feels better, feels a little
(04:43):
more stable.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
And he's a tough guy. Obviously, all these guys are
to make it to this high level of competition, so
I think he'll be able to handle it.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
One more injury to talk about.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
It's a baseball injury, I guess it's more a guy
who has had a lot of injuries over the course
of his career in red shortstop slash that can be.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
It's been Matt McClain. He hasn't played at all this year.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
He's had rib issues, oblique issues, shoulder issues. They're still
leaving open the possibility that he may play with basically
two plus weeks left in the season. From a medical perspective,
understanding what he has gone through, does this make any sense?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah, I kind of have a hard time. There's sometimes
other things that play that we don't understand whether it's players,
contracts or other things. But from a medical peer perspective,
I would say give it a rest and try to
lace up again in twenty twenty five. But that's just
me talking from the outside.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah, and you have to factor where the team is
in the standings in that conversation as well. Awesome perspective.
As always, I do appreciate it. Thank you so much,
all right, have a good day, all right. Most definitely
doctor Matthew Grugemeier from Orthos, since he we say it
every week. The great thing about Orthos, since he is
they have specialists and locations. You can't have specialists without
(05:58):
a location all across the Tri State. This includes walk
in orthopedic urgent care weekdays nine a m. To nine
pm and on Saturdays nine am to one pm, and
Edgewood and Anderson. It's easier and cheaper than going to
an er. Whenever you have an urgent orthopedic injury, just
go to Orthosinc.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Dot com. That's Ortho c I NCY dot com.
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